📚｜english-questions

[swift briar]

To achieve ur goals

Paying your way out of prison

[serene plinth]

It's simply same as 'bailing out of something' imo

[scenic stirrup]

That's close to what I thought. Thanks man, so usefully succinct!

[swift briar]

It can also be said differently: your way out of jail ticket but that means something slightly different

[scenic stirrup]

Thanks again.

[serene plinth]

And may I ask what that means?

[swift briar]

I like to sniff body

Never heard of that expression before

Seems like it's local

That seems to be an inadequate response.

Regardless, u have a nice day mate.

[serene plinth]

Funny, eh?

Can't think of a reason why you're bringing that up here

[swift briar]

Seeking attention

[serene plinth]

Does that bother #📚｜english-questions on discord?

[swift briar]

#🧠｜serious-chat

You need to if u want to be a member of this community

[serene plinth]

I'm just curious. Why are bringing that up here in this server?

[swift briar]

Just a warning

[serene plinth]

Because the initial question was directed towards me?

This is not the USA. People from around the globe come here!

Was your question not dumb?

LGBTQ idolatry? Lmfao

Well, then talk to the teachers/authorities

This is not the place for that

[scenic stirrup]

Guys, what is the meaning of arcs of time?

[keen viper]

That's gay

[serene plinth]

Could you please tell us the context?

[cerulean tusk]

to my knowledge, this isnt a thing

[serene plinth]

Was my sentence grammatically incorrect?

[swift briar]

Guys, just block this guy

Stop feeding him

Either block or report

[scenic stirrup]

Chapter 4,
“The Long View,” lays out strategies to
help you plan for longer arcs of time, such as building a career or a family.

[cerulean tusk]

in this example, arcs = periods

[swift briar]

He's obviously trying to be provocative

[serene plinth]

This is an English-learning server. Such comments are rude!

[swift briar]

So Just ignore him ^-^

[scenic stirrup]

I mean, could u elaborate more, please?

[serene plinth]

Unsolicited criticism is not required

[cerulean tusk]

with respect, thats not what this channel is for. its for answering English questions.

ok... so time to block the troll.

[swift briar]

Did that long ago

This guy literally asked to be a mod the second he joined this server

Lol

[cerulean tusk]

thats better.

[serene plinth]

[cerulean tusk]

mr. im new here, let me try to puff my chest out as far as possible.

[swift briar]

He's days are numbered

Let him enjoy his last moments

He'll find a different server to bother

Maybe He's searching 1 rn

[cerulean tusk]

prolly. while listening to his echo

[serene plinth]

We shall see about that

[flat rune]

What is going on here?!

Are you a troll?

[cerulean tusk]

a nobody trying to be a somebody

[dusk verge]

Imagine saying things like “sniff da bootye”

[flat rune]

Did you apply to be mod?

[swift briar]

"Didn't say that"

[serene plinth]

Everyone's

[scenic stirrup]

Highly appreciated guys. Thanks Mr.stickler.

[swift briar]

Mission accomplished

[cerulean tusk]

just report that message and he will be gone

[serene plinth]

You might also think of it as phases of life

[quick rivet]

hi guys i just wanna ask that what does "soldier of fortune" mean? it means mercenary or lucky soldier?

[cerulean tusk]

haha, its someone in the military that goes wherever the action is, basically, for their own pleasure

there are soldiers from the US and other countries that are fighting in Ukraine, not officially, but independently

[burnt kayak]

My friend, who is a doctor, is very busy.
The house, which is on the hill, is for sale.
The book, which I read last week, was very good.
How are these sentences considered as nondefining clause I do know when a relative clause has a comma it's considered as nondefining clause but I just can't understand why they are not defining clauses.

[vocal bronze]

How to use 12 tense

[dense oasis]

because they give you extra information, they don't just state a subject who does/is something/someone

[dense oasis]

well technically there's 16 of them but depends if one's classifying past versions of Future tenses as separate grammar tenses, or just the same as future tenses with "will", because future simple, future continuous, future perfect, and future perfect continuous can be made into "would" instead of "will"

[cerulean tusk]

nondefining because the part inside the commas is unnecessary to the meaning of the sentence. if you removed the info in between the commas, it is still complete.

[dense oasis]

"I thought I would have finished it by yesterday" vs "I think I will have finished it by tomorrow", like we can say these two are both future perfect, but the first one uses would, soo some people would actually say its not future perfect anymore

[burnt kayak]

okay but if I said the house is for sale without the relative clause the listener wouldn't know which house I'm talking about

[cerulean tusk]

right, so you need a defining clause.

which is not separated by commas

[swift briar]

@cerulean tusk what does captivating mean ?

[thorn owl]

is "would prefer" polite?

[cerulean tusk]

its an extreme adjective meaning extremely interesting

[cerulean tusk]

very! 👌

[dense oasis]

sounds like more than interesting to me tbh...

[swift briar]

@cerulean tusk hey man

I want to thicken my vocabulary

Tips ?

[cerulean tusk]

www.TED.com

[swift briar]

LMAO NO

F that

[cerulean tusk]

🤷‍♂️

ive watched them off and on for 10 years

[swift briar]

I don't like ted

[dense oasis]

and now you're native

[swift briar]

Just doesn't click for me

[dense oasis]

apparently thats the reason you're native

[swift briar]

Wait is that how you earned your nativity

[cerulean tusk]

ha

thankfully, no

[swift briar]

Ow~

[dense oasis]

you can be double native if you watch jordan peterson-like sh## all days

[swift briar]

I think my english has gotten loose lately due to me not finding the right people to have a civil conversation with

Unfortunately

Lol

[cerulean tusk]

and the wine was ok.... a bit too much tannin

[dense oasis]

nah output has nothing to do with it, i almost never speak out loud, and still am progressing, because i get a lot of active input

[cerulean tusk]

then you just walk around sounding like you read the Thesaurus every day at breakfast

[swift briar]

Black dear boy, speaking is a skill

It doesn't matter if ur C1 C2 C3 native or beyond

It's a skill

That can't be obtained with just knowledge

[dense oasis]

then it's a skill i dont posess lol

[swift briar]

That's what im talking about

My social skills has decreased

Due to the lack of finding

[dense oasis]

*have

[swift briar]

Interesting ppl to chat with

[cerulean tusk]

yea the VC is hit and miss

[swift briar]

99% a miss

[cerulean tusk]

be a little more patient

[dense oasis]

why

[swift briar]

I haven't had any good vc sessions

Ever since i joined

Maybe once

[dense oasis]

maybe you didnt try a sufficient amount of times

[swift briar]

Have ?

[dense oasis]

yeah, cuz plural

[swift briar]

Uh...right

I just realized what i said

That's fine

[cerulean tusk]

actually... its the pronoun, not the plurality

[dense oasis]

hm? i meant "skills" is a plural noun

[cerulean tusk]

he, she, it = has

[dense oasis]

yeah but skills is not singular

[cerulean tusk]

yea, fair enough. you are right about that

[dense oasis]

i know i am

[swift briar]

...

Cocky

[dense oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/cock-look-at-this-gif-21987335

[mortal citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mihlali-period-periodt-gif-26368432

[mortal citrus]

😭

[swift briar]

Why are u crying lol

[mortal citrus]

Tearful

[swift briar]

@mortal citrus help me

[mortal citrus]

okay

[swift briar]

Thank you

❤️

[mortal citrus]

anytime

✅

[cerulean tusk]

ive had time to think about this. we still always want to primarily think about the pronoun when using has/have because thats always true.

if i have a sentence with no plural use, but i use she, i always use has.
"she has no feeling in her left leg"

[swift briar]

So is it has or have

[cerulean tusk]

i have no feeling in my left leg

[swift briar]

For the sentence that i sent

What's the final word

[mortal citrus]

this one?

with the decreased

[swift briar]

Yws

[mortal citrus]

I have
You have
He/She/It has
We have
They have

so have

[swift briar]

Ok

But i said My

[mortal citrus]

“my social skills” = they

Plural

more than one social skill

[swift briar]

Oh ok

[cerulean tusk]

tricky because my is not the subject. my social skills is the subject and because its plural, have.

[swift briar]

I understand now

[mortal citrus]

^^

[swift briar]

Yes

[mortal citrus]

Yay

[swift briar]

Definitely a tricky sentence

[mortal citrus]

whats a really complex sentence

hm

google says it uses a subordinate clause

[swift briar]

Coordinate means, a place, a direction of something

What about subordinate ?

[mortal citrus]

are u talking about the definition in general excluding the grammar one?

[cerulean tusk]

like subpar, below par

[mortal citrus]

Bc theres two

Yeah what viper said

[cerulean tusk]

its secondary

[swift briar]

Yes

[mortal citrus]

almost inferior

[cerulean tusk]

if you are a manager, you have subordinates that report to you

[mortal citrus]

Yeah

Lower ranks

[swift briar]

Oh

Gotcha

[cerulean tusk]

exactly

[swift briar]

Nice

[mortal citrus]

#English

[mortal citrus]

#English

[swift briar]

England

Eng, land

[mortal citrus]

En gland

[cerulean tusk]

#words

[mortal citrus]

If i stare at a word too long it looks weird

[swift briar]

I kinda wanna test my vocabulary

[mortal citrus]

Same

[swift briar]

I just wanna see how robust my understanding is

Sometimes i may know a word but find it hard to define

I just know it by heart

[mortal citrus]

Is there a vocab test

[swift briar]

Something along those lines

[mortal citrus]

i wanna take it

[mortal citrus]

do you want me to find one

tets

test

[swift briar]

Sure

[mortal citrus]

Ok

[swift briar]

Im gonna suck tho

My english has been kinda rusty

It needs some refreshing

A shake

[cerulean tusk]

🌬️

[swift briar]

Blowing air

[cerulean tusk]

smoke

[swift briar]

Gas

Synonyms battle ?

Let's start with the word "beautiful"

Pretty

[mortal citrus]

https://spellquiz.com/vocabulary-test

LMFOA

[cerulean tusk]

sometimes i doubt myself and i look something up just to make certain. like with the flag thing the other day, you had me doubting myself for a minute

[swift briar]

Lol

[cerulean tusk]

eh thats a spelling test

[swift briar]

What does this quiz do/test ?

[swift briar]

Im terrible at these

[cerulean tusk]

i thought yall were looking for word/definition type test

[swift briar]

I think i have couple words in my diary/note

Whatever u wanna call it

We can discuss them

They're fairly easy and straightforward

First word: Fussy

[mortal citrus]

Idk im doing it now and im just noting what they say its shit

dont do it

[swift briar]

I figured

[mortal citrus]

thats what it said and it came up with that lmfao

Anyways synonym game o

[swift briar]

We can do that yes

Might learn a new word to express something

[mortal citrus]

give me one moment ill brb u can still play

[cerulean tusk]

🤣

is there a discord actvitiy we can do? the fluent VC room is free...

[swift briar]

I hate how one day i will be this wise person with such interesting indea to talk about and fluent/smooth speaking moments

And days where i sound like the dumbest person alive

[swift briar]

If you wanna join, i guess I'll follow

Wouldn't wanna go alone

[cerulean tusk]

eh... people showed up

[swift briar]

Maybe if fenti join us as well

Black cat ? Possibly

[cerulean tusk]

the global rooms are free

[swift briar]

But just a heads up, im extremely boring to talk to

[cerulean tusk]

but theres no discord activity for voca

vocab

im drinking wine so ill be interesting in about 20 minutes

ha

[swift briar]

We can join a beginner vc

With a cap of 6 people

[cerulean tusk]

i dont wanna take their room

[swift briar]

A2

Is free

[cerulean tusk]

G1 or G2

[swift briar]

Holy sh**

10/8 people maximum

That's kinda a stretch...

Up 2 u tho, if u wanna join any just tell me

[woeful bay]

Hey guys

It's first time to join chat

[cerulean tusk]

i just dont wanna take a designated room

[swift briar]

It's fine ^-^

[woeful bay]

What it is about?

[cerulean tusk]

@dense oasis you up?

[swift briar]

Do what you feel like doing and i shall follow u comrade

[cerulean tusk]

lets see what fenti finds

practicing vocab @woeful bay

or imma go watch "better call Saul"

[swift briar]

Honestly if u wanna go for it

I'm super duper boring to talk to

Unless fenti and black join

Fenti wanted to do vc since forever

[woeful bay]

Recommendation for inhanc my English?????

[swift briar]

So nows the time

[swift briar]

Watch online videos

[cerulean tusk]

fa sho

[swift briar]

Also G1 got conquered

[mortal citrus]

if u want to vc we can do it now

[woeful bay]

Where is it?

[mortal citrus]

i wont be on for too long but its better than nothing

[cerulean tusk]

youtube?

[swift briar]

Yeah sure,

[cerulean tusk]

global2

[mortal citrus]

where tho

Okay

[cerulean tusk]

im switching to my phone

[swift briar]

Alrighty

Im bringing my headset to be able to hear lol

[mortal citrus]

sorry yall the dogs r going crazy

LMFAO

[swift briar]

So umm

[cerulean tusk]

yea, smaller room is best

[mortal citrus]

LMAO..

[swift briar]

That plan didn't work

Looooool

[swift briar]

Yeah

[mortal citrus]

^^

[swift briar]

3 4 rooms ?

There's one with limitation

@cerulean tusk what's your call boss

[cerulean tusk]

im the minority

[mortal citrus]

tbh i thinm another time

think

[swift briar]

Awww

Shame

[mortal citrus]

At least we spoke like 10 words

😭

[swift briar]

That's a progress

[cerulean tusk]

that's ok, I was leaning that way also

[mortal citrus]

Yeah

[swift briar]

We shall disband for now,but we have to join another time

[cerulean tusk]

sounds good

[trail slate]

What does it mean to be amped up on smth??

[twin phoenix]

"I like it cooked"

"I prefer it fried"

Can someone explain to me what rule is this? Why dont we need to be verb to explain the object?

[flat rune]

You can play Chess on any devices, comouter or phones,
So Chess is very….. mobile? 🤔

[supple holly]

"Like" and "prefer" here are complex verbs.

The general formula is "verb + object + noun/adjective"

[supple holly]

Yes. "Mobile" means it can move or be moved around easily, so yes chess is mobile

[supple holly]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-charlie-meme-criti-kal-pov-gif-25062978

[flat rune]

HAIR is both countable and uncountable?

His hair is messy
There’re hairs all over the floor

[mortal citrus]

If you’re talking about hair in general than it is uncountable (unquantifiable). If you’re talking about strands of hair then it is countable (quantifiable).

So it can be both.

[dense oasis]

i have a high fever for three days now, sometimes it drops, sometimes it rises back again

plus i was sleeping

like now am 36.0 celsius, the normal is considered to be 36.6, last night i had 38.2, its very weird

[flat rune]

does this sound 'natural'?
I want to travel all around the wolrd.
I want to go to PLACES all around the world.

how would you say it? 🤔

[mint seal]

I’d rephrase the second one “I want to go to all places around the world”

[flat rune]

Kiu 🫡

[supple holly]

I'd just use the first phrase

More concise and still convey the same meaning

[flat rune]

kim 🧀 🫡

[supple holly]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-mo1st-critical-penguin-cute-pov-gif-22534556

[flat rune]

kimchi + cheese

[mint seal]

Yum

[flat rune]

sweet and spicy?

ahhhh

[cobalt sand]

Kiu's response is good and grammatically right, but it sounds even more natural to say "I want to go to all THE places around the world"

[flat rune]

i don't know how my stomach would react to that kind of taste -sweet+spicy

[mint seal]

Yeah it sounds funny without the “the” but I’m a person who’s picky about repetition LMAO, good explanation though

[flat rune]

perfecto my friend 🫡

[flat rune]

do you play chess by any chance?
@mint seal

[mint seal]

I used to. I’m too busy to play chess now

Also I’m not very good at it

[cobalt sand]

I have but I've never gotten in depth with it.

[uneven wave]

Guys I got a problem. The bus leaves the school. The buses leave the school. In the second one should I use leaves or not and tell me ?

[cobalt sand]

'The bus leaves the school' is singular, 'The buses leave the school' is for two or more.

[cerulean tusk]

ummm no. to be amped up on something is to have an excess of something, usually by consuming, like sugar or caffeine

happy to help!

[flat rune]

In second one use leave

[cobalt sand]

If you know the exact number say 'The 3 buses left the school' @uneven wave

[supple holly]

Your answer is a few messages above

[cobalt sand]

Or whatever number it WOULD be in your case

[cerulean tusk]

thanks, i forgot to tag the original person

for additional help, you can be amped to see a movie... which would indicate an excess of excitement or anticipation.

[mortal citrus]

Fr

[serene plinth]

on any device, computer or phone*

I wouldn't call it 'mobile'

it's not physically moving unless you're talking of a chessboard

[supple holly]

Neither is a mobile phone. But "mobile" means it can move or be moved, so I think it makes sense here

[serene plinth]

wdym?

mobile phone is called so because it can be carried anywhere easily

[supple holly]

Isn't chess (as in the game) the same then

[serene plinth]

A mobile is a mobile phone

[serene plinth]

not really

[supple holly]

Huh

[serene plinth]

I'd think of it as umm something in line with versatile

[cerulean tusk]

chess?

[serene plinth]

as in how the game can be played both physically and virtually

[cerulean tusk]

kinda of a stretch to call it versatile

[serene plinth]

that's why I said something similar

ofc it's not exactly versatile

[cerulean tusk]

a mobile phone is, it can be used for text, email, calling, internet, etc...

[serene plinth]

here's the question

[cerulean tusk]

in this way, yes

because i can take my laptop or my phone with me

so they are mobile and everything inside is also

[serene plinth]

ic

I personally wouldn't consider 'chess' as mobile

It's flexible for sure

[cerulean tusk]

traditionally, no. same here.

a board and pieces are not mogile at all

ugh

mobile

if we are gonna be picky, using the example @flat rune gave, yes.

[flat rune]

Wut abt easily Accesible?🤔
@serene plinth @supple holly

[serene plinth]

yeah

it's easily accessible

I had thought of accessible at first glance but wasn't sure if that was what you were looking for

[cerulean tusk]

accessible speaks about how it can be.... accessed. by phone, by tablet, by laptop....

[dense oasis]

there is another meaning to this, for example "a website is accessible" doesnt mean it is accesible for phones, tablets, and desktops, it means it can adjust to screen readers and people with special needs such as bigger fonts or reversed colors cuz they are color-blind

but

thats a technical perspective to it

normal humans probably dont understand "accessible" this way i guess..

[cerulean tusk]

sure, accessible to people with special needs and people without. I feel it still speaks to how something is accessed

[swift briar]

Accessible means easy to access

Also just because it's Accessible it doesn't necessarily mean it's Accessible for people with special needs.

[dense oasis]

it inherently does mean this, i mean as long as it is used as a technical term in the realm of web dev as i mentioned above, i didnt mean to speak about the general meaning of "accessible"

i guess my bad

[spare summit]

what

these sentences are too big im quitting learning english

[dense oasis]

nooo

you can emm, do it, we believe in you!

[spare summit]

maybe

[dense oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/there-there-cats-cat-dog-cheer-up-gif-14793531

[swift briar]

Don't worry about black, he likes to somewhat complicate his own sentences for the sake of appearing more intellectual lmao

"Realm of web"

[dense oasis]

you do that yourself too

[swift briar]

I'm just a dummy with smart words on a good day

[dense oasis]

thats the same as me

lol

[trail slate]

That’s not correct

[cerulean tusk]

sorry, what is not correct?

[humble tree]

what is the deferent between fell and fill ?

[cerulean tusk]

fell is past of fall

fill is increasing something, like fill a glass with water or my heart is filled with love

[humble tree]

Ohh thank you bro

[swift briar]

@cerulean tusk revenue and income

What's the major difference

[cerulean tusk]

revenue is income

a term usually used by businesses/governments... lay people just use income for the money they make

[swift briar]

Youtube makes ad revenue

[cerulean tusk]

yes

[swift briar]

But us normal peeps

We get income

[cerulean tusk]

right

[swift briar]

So it's wrong to say my revenue ?

Unless I'm an employer ?

I need u to shed more light if u may

Also I'm assuming salary is basically a synonym for income

So not worth discussing

[dense oasis]

is your heart filled with love, or is it only your glass that is filled, but with water?

[cerulean tusk]

utube and twitter share their ad revenue with content creators, and they speak of it as such. but those content creators are making income, even if they refer to it the same as the company refers to it

[swift briar]

Companies make revenue to give their employees income

Basically

Revenue is for companies

[cerulean tusk]

its not necessarily wrong, its just not the most common way its spoken about

[swift briar]

Income for people working

[cerulean tusk]

bingo

[swift briar]

Revenue is the core income

Income is the source of revenue

[dense oasis]

if i have my own business, like a tiny one, then can i say ive got a revenue of XXX last month?

[swift briar]

How about this ?

Of xxx ? Lol

What

[dense oasis]

just blank space to be replaced with any number

[cerulean tusk]

think about it this way, revenue is just a business term for income

[swift briar]

Xxx can mean something else lol

Careful

[dense oasis]

thats your filthy thought

s

[swift briar]

Lmao

I'm not wrong tho

[dense oasis]

yes you're not

you're just

h#rny

[swift briar]

So what you mean by it is that

It's more professional and technical

Than saying income ?

Sorry if im too dumb to understand

My brain is kinda working slow atm

[cerulean tusk]

?

[swift briar]

Don't want u to repeat yourself, if i don't understand then i don't.

[dense oasis]

no, like, unimportant, i just got a philosophy moment

[swift briar]

Cat is just trying to sound nerdy

[dense oasis]

i dont have to try tbh...

[cerulean tusk]

saul goodman.... not so much "more" professional, its just a business term for the common person term of income

[swift briar]

So basically if i said my companies income

Im not terribly wrong

[cerulean tusk]

not really

[swift briar]

But im not very professional

[cerulean tusk]

eh

[swift briar]

Nakshsj

Ok

I'm dumb

I need the dumb English learner role asap

[cerulean tusk]

its not incorrect to say my companies income, its just more correct to say my companies revenue

[swift briar]

So it's less about professionalism

And more about correctness

[cerulean tusk]

sorta, yea

[swift briar]

Gotcha

Thanks viper

[cerulean tusk]

happy to help!

how ya feeling BC?

[swift briar]

He's feeling gray today

I can sense that

Or he's blue

Idk

Feeling blue*

[dense oasis]

i think it's like "my government stole tax payers' money" vs "the government of my country charged the usual amount of tax in order to distribute it among poorer social classes"

like the same difference

as with income vs revenue

means the same, sounds differently

[cerulean tusk]

those sound pretty different

[dense oasis]

yeah, unless you start to see how the world works

then they are pretty much the same

or like "we want to take care of children's safety and secure their online privacy" vs "we want to make sure we can fingerprint everything you can possibly send and take it down as soon as it's against our worldview"

the same lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-schlabber-funny-cat-broken-cat-gif-17797121

[cerulean tusk]

i was speaking to the vagueness of "stealing the tax payers' money" vs a detailed 2nd sentence

[dense oasis]

ah yeah okay

[dense oasis]

btw, would you be very confused if someone pronounced borough and bureau the same way? i mean i know the difference, but i guess it may happen that someone misses it

[cobalt sand]

It usually depends on the dialect and how well spoken someone is

Many people I know would probably pronounce it the same way.

[cerulean tusk]

yes

[cobalt sand]

I think the key is making sure that you provide the context so people can figure it out.

[cerulean tusk]

and yes

[cobalt sand]

A lot of Americans are barely fluent in their own language so giving context is more important than knowing big words

I’m sure in other English speaking countries it IS better but there will always be someone who did not pay attention in class

[dense oasis]

when i watched some of american shows or interviews/vlogs/content of some modern "influencers" then i kinda felt as if they... idk... had problems with speaking english despite being native

[cobalt sand]

I usually have people saying I’m super good, I am fluent but it’s just that all of my peers read at 10 words per minute.

[cerulean tusk]

the embarrassing side of America

[cobalt sand]

I do not like being in English class at school for that reason.

[swift briar]

I mean just because ur a native it doesn't mean u are gonna be good at speaking

Speaking is a skill

It doesn't matter if u know every word in the book

If u don't speak, u ain't gonna be speaking well.

[dense oasis]

true but

[cobalt sand]

The respect for decent education in the United States is low

[dense oasis]

i kinda didnt mean that someone stuttered or just looked for a suitable word for a long time, i meant people who seemed to... mumble, kind of blab, like just straight up mutter out some almost unintelligible sentences with a heavy amount of slang, usually with a low of derogatory terms

*lot

not low

idk how i typed that one

[cerulean tusk]

ain't.... haha

[swift briar]

The same argument can be said about about a lot of countries

People like to dump their negative thoughts on the us just because it's a meme

But if u were to be objective

You'd see that there are countries with far worse fluency levels

Despite them being native

Being a native doesn't grant the privilege of being the best speaker of that targeted language

[cerulean tusk]

maybe the best opportunity, but not a given

[dense oasis]

i agree but... like... when i see, or hear, or talk to a speaker in my native, who really sucks at the language, like makes a ton of weird mistakes, mispronounces pretty often, has a pretty poor vocabulary, or just can't get the idea out of their head, everything all at once, then most likely they are from the countryside, people from bigger cities would not make mistakes like this, at least not in most places... while the US or the "richer" countries seem to be having the opposite case more often

[dense oasis]

maybe its not the US... maybe its just the modern world, because the people who do that seem to be pretty rich, but not rich cuz they have a career in something useful like medicine or engineering or just anything productive for other people, rich because they got a career from some internet social media, where they just shared half-naked photos or screamed to camera, they made the money, and now despite being "upper-class", living in a big city while having a substantial income, they still speak as if they were taken out from some barn in the countryside

[cobalt sand]

I am from what you would consider the countryside in America and I am competent. It’s more values than anything in my opinion.

Not many people respect the ability to speak or read well it seems

In the US

First world problem

[spare summit]

im in uk and idk how to speak good

so i chose beginner lol

i just forgot all the g rammar rueles

[swift briar]

Some of them are*

[spare summit]

i can explain stuff and express myself but like

i mess up on all the grammar rules lol

and punctuation

[dense oasis]

am from the countryside too, but am polish, and well... what i said was, i guess, based on my experience, so probably you're right

[swift briar]

Experiences are kinda irrelevant if we were to establish something

Meaningful

[dense oasis]

yeah true

like you're mentioning people from the US

and what i kind of did was that i took what i saw in my place, and made an assumption that this could be the case in a different country

which is almost doomed to be wrong

[dense oasis]

||btw i wanna have a voice like yours... lmao||

[swift briar]

Inject testosterone

[dense oasis]

nah i dont care about it to that extent

[swift briar]

Lol

[cunning loom]

Anyone from the Great Lakes region of the US?

[cobalt sand]

Great lakes dweller here.

[knotty vault]

When I say "Lay the child on his belly" can I use that as a neutral "tutorial" or is "his" in this case explicitly for a boy?

I'm unsure if "their, the or his" is correct

(pls ping!)

[mortal citrus]

“His” explicitly means that the child is male, but it can mean that the child is being put on somebody else’s belly of whom is a male.

With context it works.

[mortal citrus]

You can say “its belly” to say the child is put on its own belly.

[knotty vault]

Alright thanks. My target is to make it neutral as tutorial.

I normallly use it

[mortal citrus]

What do you mean by “tutorial”?

Do you mean “neutral as possible”?

[knotty vault]

But Google translate me often into German then a female naming

[mortal citrus]

Ohhh

[knotty vault]

"how to lay your child on the belly to give a massage" like that

[mortal citrus]

Ohh

[knotty vault]

But keep it neutral

[solar isle]

Hello

[knotty vault]

Great question!

[mortal citrus]

Perfect, I understand.

[knotty vault]

So I can write "Lay the child on it's belly"

[mortal citrus]

its belly* and yes

its —> represents possession
it’s —> contraction of “it is” or “it has”

[knotty vault]

Yeah its and it's is always a bit tricking me 😣

[mortal citrus]

Now you know the difference😉☺️

[knotty vault]

Oh I knew it before

My keyboard does just suggest it and I tend to click it 😅

[maiden geode]

hello everyone

[knotty vault]

Also great question!

[maiden geode]

can i ask about songs can i learn from it

like your favourite tracks

[knotty vault]

*to learn from it 😉

[maiden geode]

thank you

[knotty vault]

I think thats more a thing for #🫂｜beginner-chat 🙂

Here are explicit questions like "how to write...?"

[maiden geode]

if I'm at interview how can i answer the questions

[knotty vault]

I don't know what you try to say 😄

[maiden geode]

If I am in an interview, how can I answer the questions correctly?

what's wrong?

[knotty vault]

sigh Which questions?...

I can't help. This confuses me.

[maiden geode]

Self introduction questions

[brittle mortar]

If you are at an interview… the questions really depend. If the questions are asking about yourself, be honest about yourself, who you are, and what you value. If the questions are based on a specific scenario, then the answers can vary, but try to use common sense and your own knowledge and logic to answer them.

[swift briar]

Guys i think i have fallen from my fluency grace.

Now I'm officially an intermediate

#feelsbadman

[swift briar]

||possibly a beginner||

I don't have the right to correct people anymore.

[cobalt sand]

If you know something that someone has trouble with you should try to help anyways

[swift briar]

I'm just going through a weird period rn called, the frustrating plateau decay

What does it mean ?
It means im hitting a plateau that i couldn't surpass and on top of that im actually losing things I've learned.

Nothing is more frustrating than losing ur progress and being stuck at a level that you're not satisfied with

I feel shi**y rn

[cobalt sand]

If you are plateuing I think you might be working on things too advanced for you currently or you aren't working on anything advanced enough, it depends on where you are at in comprehension.

[swift briar]

I mean i wouldn't say that they're the most reliable results but...

C1 / B2

Is my most likely level

But i think i dropped to b2 or even lower, don't really know

However i have no concrete evidences on my claim so it's basically somewhat unreliable

[tepid mica]

Hi again

How to pronounce Oppositely

[cobalt sand]

If you are B1-B2 work in Intermediate for a while and once you can get B2-C1 again you can work on advanced.

[tepid mica]

Same

[cobalt sand]

Oppositely (Aw-Poe-Sit-Lee)

[swift briar]

I mean, they're not like mario levels where u basically know how to beat them lol

[tepid mica]

daaaang that was so easy

because I heard the letter F now i heard it perfectly

thanks man

[swift briar]

The journey can be really vague

I don't even know what im lacking, and what i need to work on

[cobalt sand]

No but working with people on that level could help you at a better pace.

[swift briar]

I haven't gotten evaluated

[cobalt sand]

No problem.

[swift briar]

No 1 wants to work with me

Not for free at least

[cobalt sand]

Just hop in a voice chat when its open and talk with people.

[swift briar]

They will more likely than not worsen my english if anything

[cobalt sand]

Read an easy story in your own language and English version side by side.

Or there are English books with definitions and pronunciations of many words included.

[swift briar]

Ehhh...idm if there's a convenient way to do it

[cobalt sand]

I'm sure you can find videos online.

[swift briar]

Recommendations ?

[swift briar]

Can try

[flat rune]

Can i say you SOUND prettier than you LOOK

[cobalt sand]

Hemingway is simplistic in writing style therefore easy to grasp..

[cobalt sand]

I don't see why not. It just might be considered rude possibly.

It's a standard enough compliment to talk about someone's voice if it is good.

[swift briar]

@cobalt sand i heard people say tolerance a lot

I don't tolerate

0 tolerance

Etc

What does it mean ?

In different contexts

[cobalt sand]

How well you or someone puts up with something.

Zero Tolerance is usually for rules when broken you are punished without warning hard.

I don't tolerate means you disagree with something or someone.

[swift briar]

Also lactose intolerance

[cobalt sand]

"I don't tolerate nazis" = "I do not like nazis at all"

[swift briar]

This word is really confusing to me

[cobalt sand]

Lactose Intolerance means the people who say they have it think they cannot eat dairy products or they will get sick.

[swift briar]

Think ?

They're not sure ?

[cobalt sand]

If you get sick when you drink milk drink enough and your body will get used to it.

Probably.

[finite lantern]

@swift briar i need help

[swift briar]

I'm not sure if im the right person but sure,

What's up ?

[cobalt sand]

I'm still here too.

[tough wolf]

i have a question, when telling story, is it okay to use simple present?

not written stories, but like when we have a chat with friends and telling a story

[cobalt sand]

Unless the story requires you to give small details

It is better to keep things short when informal.

[tough wolf]

soo...is that a yes?

[cobalt sand]

Yes.

[swift briar]

@cobalt sand am i pronouncing it correctly ?

Or do i need to work on my R a bit harder

Ignore my accent though

[cobalt sand]

No, perfect pronunciation.

[swift briar]

Naisu

[flat rune]

You r a guy?

[cobalt sand]

I imagine only Europeans would have troubles with Rs because they usually make a rolling sound. Asian dialects don't roll I think.

[swift briar]

I struggle woth B and P

[tepid mica]

i understand perfectly

[cobalt sand]

I understand fine too but if you do have fast talks and want to make sure they sound different, P requires you to use your lips more but B you should feel more in your mouth.

[swift briar]

B is soft

P is harsh

Yes

Also

I'll ask u a somewhat challenging question

Are u up for it ?

[cobalt sand]

Sure.

[swift briar]

Actually not really challenging lol

Was just exaggerating

Neither either
In spite Despite

What's the difference

Between all of em

[cobalt sand]

Neither is refusal of two things "He offered me a Red pill and Blue pill but I chose neither"
Either is typically to compare two things "I wasn't sure what was in either of the pills so I didn't take one" or as a threat, "Either you take me to the pill store or I take you out"

In spite and despite are not different in definition. "In spite of our differences we are still friends" or "Despite our differences we are still friends."

In spite should usually only be used when talking to or about people

"In spite of the forest's animals I hiked through it anyways" can work but shortening it to despite sounds more casual.

[shy shell]

i dont think thats really true

you can use "despite" and "in spite of" interchangeably

[cobalt sand]

Depends on formality.

[swift briar]

Ooo

[cobalt sand]

In spite is more formal in my opinion.

[shy shell]

i think so too, but again, they are 100% interchangeable

[cobalt sand]

Why would you be formal when talking about yourself or inanimate things?

[swift briar]

Ok i understand now

[cobalt sand]

Unless there are other people you are talking to.

[swift briar]

Both mean the same thing both are interchangeable

1 is formal 1 is informal

Noted

Thanks ❤️

[shy shell]

not really

they are both neutral

you can use either in a formal or informal situation

[cobalt sand]

It's just common for them to be used in the way I desribed.

[swift briar]

You can eat either an apple or an orange but neither of them should be consumed right now

Is that a correct sentence ?

Lol

[cobalt sand]

Yes it is. Good job.

[shy shell]

yeah but id put "either" in front of "eat"

[swift briar]

Thank u ❤️ headpat me

[swift briar]

Why is that

What's the difference

[cobalt sand]

I think putting it after the action is easier to understand that you are talking about the apple and orange seperately.

For anyone who isn't very fluent that distinction would be easier to understand that way I would imagine.

[shy shell]

both are correct but to say "either" before the verb sounds much more natural as when you listen to natives speak thats really the only way you hear that kind of sentence worded

[swift briar]

You can either eat an apple or an orange but neither of them should be consumed right now

Better now ?

[shy shell]

yeah, that wording sounds more natural, but as i said both are grammatically correct

[swift briar]

Ok, thanks

May i ask about your background ?

(Which country are u from)

[shy shell]

the united states

[swift briar]

Which part within ?

[shy shell]

the midwest

[cobalt sand]

Nicetown, USA

[shy shell]

in other words, central basically

[swift briar]

I see

[cobalt sand]

Midwestern people are usually the nicest out of all Americans.

[swift briar]

Only reason i asked this is because I've noticed that people from different regions tend to...have a way of talking

And im not talking about speaking, just typing

Though that's just a minor observation

[shy shell]

thats true sometimes

[swift briar]

I'll show u an example

[cobalt sand]

It is one of the failures of our education

No one wants to learn.

[shy shell]

maybe because were always drunk

[cobalt sand]

Probably

[shy shell]

i live in wisconsin, its by far the most drunken state in the us

[swift briar]

Met folks like this lol

Not so long ago

[cobalt sand]

Bet he was from one of the cities

[shy shell]

this person uses a lot of social media slang

[swift briar]

Yeah lol

[shy shell]

i find it extremely lazy that people cant be bothered to type "just" but rather "js." it is literally a two-letter difference

[cobalt sand]

I think literacy rates get lower the more people in an area.

[shy shell]

and social media

[swift briar]

What's a literacy rate ?

[shy shell]

predominately tiktok

[supple holly]

Like IQ

[shy shell]

tiktok is the pinnacle of anti-intellectualism

[cobalt sand]

I talk using slang with my friends who know what it means.

In a place where people are trying to learn English I am going to speak properly.

[swift briar]

I can see where you're coming from

[shy shell]

no, iq has to do with intellect, its pretty different. literacy rate is the measurement of how well you can read, write, and speak a certain language

[swift briar]

I thought u meant literature

For some reason

[supple holly]

Isn't there correlation between the two

[swift briar]

Like literature from literacy

[swift briar]

Not fully

But somewhat

[supple holly]

Especially if it's your native language

So I think there is some relation here at least

[swift briar]

Just a small one

[shy shell]

no because like i said iq is more of an intellect measurement. literacy is a matter of intelligence, not intellect. if youre curious on the difference between intellect and intelligence you should google it

[supple holly]

Hmm I see. I will do that later

[swift briar]

Aka never

[supple holly]

Yes

[swift briar]

Lmao

[swift briar]

But...intellectualism comes from intelligence tho

Don't it ?

Lol

[cobalt sand]

I have above average IQ and I am literate. If the kids learned and practiced instead of looking at their phones they could read at 80 words per minute at least

[swift briar]

You can't be intellectual and dumb at the same time

[cobalt sand]

It has nothing to do with intelligence if you put in a small amount of effort.

[swift briar]

I hate using IQ as a way to measure the difference between human

It can be a tool for people's ego

[shy shell]

intellect is the ability to understand things and compute them and have wisdom essentially

intelligence is the ability to learn and retain information

literacy is a matter of intelligence because it involves learning new information and retaining it

[cobalt sand]

True, but watching people get a bad score because they never paid attention and learned Algebra or basic history is pretty funny.

[swift briar]

But isn't that the same thing, your ability to understand things mean that you're capable of learning and receiving informations

Or am i being dumb here

[cobalt sand]

Understanding /=/ Learning.

I can learn how to cook but not understand what happens to all the things in the food as it cooks.

[swift briar]

That's because you learned something specific

You don't understand because you didn't learn

[shy shell]

knowing things = intelligence
understanding things and being logical = intellect

[swift briar]

You can learn how to cook by understanding how to cook

[shy shell]

thats kind of a paradoxical statement

[cobalt sand]

All you need is the basic knowledge of cooking to do well.

You just have to use some effort to not mess up

[swift briar]

Shall read more into lol

Didn't mean to start an argument with u

My bad ^-^

[cobalt sand]

And if you do mess it up you will know what NOT to do.

[swift briar]

Fair fair

[cobalt sand]

I didn't even think we were arguing you're fine.

You learn from mistakes, not successes.

Because if you succeed you knew how to win already.

[swift briar]

I don't know if i should feel bad or good about this lmao

Bad cuz: i wasn't even making good argumentative points

Good: i wasn't being too provocative or annoying

Lol

[shy shell]

ill attempt to provide an example here.

take the example that two people are trapped in a room.

an intellectual person may find a way to escape the room because he can think logically. he analyzes the way the room is built and observes its flaws. he thinks about when the right time may be to escape so that he is not caught.

an intelligent person may find a way to escape because he has inside information on the room hes trying to escape from. he knows what the room is made of and how to break it, or he knows that the ceiling is made of a certain material that allows it to be easily cut or something

[swift briar]

Hmmm

[cobalt sand]

A good comparison.

[swift briar]

So what ur saying is

Intellectual = logical
Intelligent = smart

By smart i mean

Knowledgeable

[shy shell]

correct

[swift briar]

Has more than average

Of information

[shy shell]

however, i think "smart" is a very vague term and it could refer to intelligence or intellect

[swift briar]

Smart is an unfortunate term

Lol

[shy shell]

it seems to be a very general umbrella term

a smart person could be a logical person, it could be a knowledgeable person, or maybe it could be a very gifted person in a certain craft or habby

[swift briar]

I think we should retrace back to english questions and not go too far ahead lol

Or we may get lost talking about it.

Ok so

Alleviate and Elevate

What do they both mean ?

[cobalt sand]

Alleviate (Ah-Lee-Vee-Ate) means to release or take pain away. "The cream alleviated the burn right away"

Elevate (El-Lah-Vae-T)

means to bring something higher

[swift briar]

Like an elevator

[shy shell]

alleviate means to cure something. e.g. to alleviate pain, stress, boredom, anger, etc.
elevate means to go up. e.g. an elevator elevates you into the air

[cobalt sand]

"The man elevated the cat from the ground"

[swift briar]

Can i say

[tepid mica]

so… we can say that a prodigy has much more intellect than average person?

[shy shell]

correct

[swift briar]

The man elevated the tension of the discussion

[shy shell]

correct

[swift briar]

Noice

[shy shell]

yes, elevate can mean bringing something higher literally or figuratively

like a physical thing or a concept

[swift briar]

Your help alleviated my learning frustration ❤️

[shy shell]

alleviate can be used in a variety of contexts. basically it means cure. its not just pain you can alleviate, but also sadness, boredom, stress, etc

[cobalt sand]

I should have said ailments instead of pain but yeah.

[swift briar]

@cobalt sand yeah be careful krypt is sharp

He's gonna overtake your sport if you don't step up

[tepid mica]

My mind is adapting to a place where I feel I should study 10 hours a day

[swift briar]

(Jk) lol

[tepid mica]

Dang, i’m gonna be productive as hell

[cobalt sand]

The brain can only learn so much at once don't go overboard

[cobalt sand]

It's 2am I'm too tired to fight for it.

[swift briar]

Yeah i once tried to learn math for 5h

I blanked after an hour

Lol

[tepid mica]

that’s me

[tepid mica]

Yeh, thx

[swift briar]

My brain can't take in a lot

Only takes out

Maybe 1 day I'll be able to find my private tutor

Who would help me become the best verison of myself

[cobalt sand]

Version*

[swift briar]

Nshshwiwsj

Fair

[cobalt sand]

No worries

Verizon IS a US based company though

[swift briar]

Noted

Thanks knighty knight

Are u new here ?

I'm assuming both of yall are

[shy shell]

yeah, verizon is pretty cool, i use verizon for cell service 👍

[swift briar]

Cell service ?

To put someone in their cell

(I'm just being sarcastic)

[shy shell]

maybe i should have said cellular service. youre right, cell service is incredibly ambiguous. who knows if i was talking referring to telecommunications or locking someone up in a cell.

[swift briar]

Gottem ? I guess lol

[near notch]

Can we consider "persist" and "insist" synonym words?

[swift briar]

Not really

Insist means to urge while persist means to continue something.

[near notch]

Alright thank you

[shy shell]

pretty much yeah. however, i think "insist" is a bit more of a powerful word. if i urge you to do something, i highly recommend you do it. but if i insist you do something, its almost like im forcing you to do something and i wont take "no" as an answer.

"forcing" you isnt really the right way to put it honestly. a better way to say it is its like im demanding you to do that thing.

if my mother urges me to do my homework, she highly recommends i do my homework

if my mother insists that i do my homework, shes basically demanding i do my homework, and ill probably be punished if i say "no" or dont do it

[near notch]

Oh actually yeah, the same thing I saw when I looked it up like insist is more like not accepting refusal(Don't come here again, if you insist on coming back, I'll have take some measurements)

[near notch]

Okay dude, it's clear now

Thanks for the help, it's appreciated

[shy shell]

great, not a problem

[flat rune]

I only slept for 4 hours today, can i say

my BODY is RUNNING on only 4 hours of sleep? 🤔

[cerulean tusk]

exactly

[kind garnet]

"Sometimes we can see only a small part of an otherwise huge living creatures"

Why "otherwise" here? What it means in this context?

[cerulean tusk]

when you say sometimes you give an understanding that it isnt all the time.
otherwise is speaking about the time that is not included in the sometimes you made reference to.

[flat rune]

I want to hear my boyfriend’s laugh,
Do i say,

can you send your LAUGH or LAUGHING to me? 🤔

[cerulean tusk]

haha a bit awkward.... but, laugh is correct.
maybe just have a voice or video call and record it?

[flat rune]

😅🫡🫡

[flat rune]

I know it’s really rude to tell someone this,
but i just want to know the language difference,
I Would never say it 😳

i dont like your ’laugh / laughing / laughter??’
(the way you laugh)

[last cliff]

Can you send me a recording of your laugh?

just say like this, otherwise a little awkward...

@flat rune But I think you are a boy...

[cerulean tusk]

laugh

[flat rune]

Ummm maybe
Just an example i made

[cerulean tusk]

this is a little awkward

[flat rune]

So, LAUGHTER is the sound ppl make when laughing and
LAUGH(as a noun) is the action of laughing?

[cerulean tusk]

verb is the action

[last cliff]

Or this can be. Hey, can you send me a clip of your laughter? I miss hearing it!

Anyway, it's awkward too. lol

but less awkward...

[cerulean tusk]

yes

to part a

part b doesnt really make sense... to me

laugh is a verb... laughing is the ing form

obvi

[last cliff]

Yes, it is.
Laughter refers to the sound that people make when they laugh. It is the noun form of the word.
On the other hand, laugh can be used as both a noun and a verb. As a noun, laugh refers to the action or instance of laughing. For example, you can say, "His laugh is contagious" or "We shared a good laugh."

[cerulean tusk]

action words are verbs. maybe there are exceptions, but i dont think so in this case

[flat rune]

[cerulean tusk]

"His laugh is contagious" or "We shared a good laugh."

those are verb uses

[last cliff]

These are uses as a verb. "He made me laugh" or "We laughed together."

[last cliff]

In these contexts, laugh is referring to the action or instance of laughing, rather than the act of producing the sound of laughter. It is used to describe the experience or expression of amusement or joy.
So it's a noun here not a verb.

[dense oasis]

the verbs in these sentences are "to be" and "to share"

english is SVO, subject+verb+object, we -> subject, shared -> verb, a good laugh -> object

[dense oasis]

so usually the verbs will appear after the subjects, unless there's some odd construction coming up, like "neither do I" or "little did he know i was gonna do a triple backflip landing on my left ear, which would end up supporting the weight of my whole body"

[cerulean tusk]

you can have more than one verb in a sentence. what i said is correct

[bright pulsar]

They aren't used as verbs there.

[dense oasis]

yeah you can, like i know, but these examples do not show laugh as a verb so unfortunately it's not correct

[last cliff]

Well. Do we have to go through this kindergarten-level topic? Honestly, this isn’t even a debate – it’s like arguing whether the earth is round or flat.

[cerulean tusk]

yall can debate if you want to.

[bright pulsar]

No need to be conceited, but no there's no debate.

[cerulean tusk]

its not conceited, its just the way it is. if anything, it can be seen as a verb or a noun. ill concede that much.

[bright pulsar]

Well, yes. It can be used as both a verb or a noun, but they're nouns there. They aren't used as verbs.

[cerulean tusk]

ok

[thorny viper]

If I knew another language before english, am I not a native english speaker? I live (and always lived) in the USA.

[flat rune]

1. Is it Air CONDITIONING or CONDITIONER? 🤔

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2. The machine to wash your clothes is a WASHING MACHINE? 🤔

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3. What do you call the machine to heat the water you need to shower? 🤔

[last cliff]

1. What do you mean? Both are possible words but I need context to choose the appropriate word.
2. washing machine.
3. water heater maybe.

air conditioning: when referring to the system or process of cooling and dehumidifying in the air in a room or building
air container: typically refers to the specific device or appliance used for air conditioning.

[thorn owl]

When we talk about general preferences, we can use prefer or would rather. The meaning is the same. right?

[bright pulsar]

Yes. They mean the same.

[north lichen]

3. geyser

[north lichen]

native language = language spoken in your family dominantly

[last cliff]

Very similar but it's worth noting that there can be slight differences in usage and nuance between the two phrases in certain contexts. Prefer is more commonly used in general situations while 'would rather' is often used in more informal or specific contexts. Additionally, "would rather" can sometimes imply a stronger preference or a more specific choice between two options.

[thorn owl]

ok but i just wanted to know if would rather can imply GENERAL preference

[flat rune]

🫡🥴

[last cliff]

why woozy face...

[flat rune]

😜

Thank you btw

🫡

[last cliff]

ur welcome

[lavish hatch]

is "Accept their as-is" the correct grammar for saying: accept a overall persons manner?

[knotty vault]

https://www.hausjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/Teppich-klopfen.jpg
Is that:

1. "He beat the carpet vigorously out"
2. "He knock the carpet vigorously out"
3. "He tap the carpet vigorously out"

"vigorously" does stand for "powerful or strong"

In German it is "Er klopft den Teppich kräftig aus". If that helps 🫣

Could be replaced with pillows, shoes, sponges, etc.

I get mainly for "ausklopfen" beat, smacked, slapped.

But I want the name that sounds like you knock a door 😅

Beat smack, slap sounds like a flat sharp sound.
But I want a thud sound
Like bonk

[brittle mortar]

“accept them as-is” is probably more appropriate

“their” wouldn’t make sense grammatically

[cobalt sand]

You normally just Knock on a door or Bang on a door

[cobalt sand]

Lunar did good I’d just like to explain it further, ‘Accept their as-is’ would sound like ‘Accept their as they are’ if you wanted to extend it

Accept them as they are = Accept them as-is

[knotty vault]

But I want to write that the carpet beater does make a thud sound like a hammer

[lavish hatch]

thank you @brittle mortar - and @cobalt sand for clarifying - Appreciate it :)

[knotty vault]

Tap out sounds very soft

[brittle mortar]

No problem!

[knotty vault]

Like a pat

Not a knocking

[cobalt sand]

You are welcome.

[swift briar]

Wait... do u pat someone or pet

What is it

[cobalt sand]

Pat the head, Slam the carpet down?

[swift briar]

Petting or patting

[knotty vault]

I want to beat the carpet with much power out

But not let it sound like a box fight

[cobalt sand]

“Loony beat and smacked at the carpet but it was in vain, because it wasn’t alive”

[knotty vault]

I need only 1 word

Beat out the carpet

[swift briar]

Just say beat the carpet

[cobalt sand]

‘Beat out the carpet’

And when you do beat it it makes a sound like a muffled beat

[swift briar]

Beat out usually means knocking out

[knotty vault]

Okay. Using the gif search with beating shows me what I'm looking for.

I think my "problem" is that i love German words xD

[swift briar]

That's spanking

[knotty vault]

Not knocking out

[knotty vault]

Thats the term of it