🧠｜serious-chat

[tender bison]

He's a larper

[plain ruin]

Schrodinger's Minecraft

[fervent oxide]

nope, I'm not saying equal rights, I'm saying being equal in general, or being treated fair

no fucking equal rights piece of shit

[ebon bluff]

i agree with what you say but what's your solution

[fervent oxide]

that's disgusting

[tender bison]

Lmfao I'm sorry how?

[ebon bluff]

wdym

[fervent oxide]

you are saying that woman and men should have the same right and that's completely bullshit

[tender bison]

Trump is a piss brain orange little nugget of shit

[tender bison]

It's completely correct. We are all human, we bleed the same blood

[fervent oxide]

I'm saying they should be treated equal in general cases, and should be treated fair regardless of their gender

but not giving them equal fucking rights

[ebon bluff]

then how the fuck are they not gonna have equal rights

[fervent oxide]

that's bs

[tender bison]

They both have human rights in Canada

That's equal rights

It's working out well

[fervent oxide]

there is a lot of attributives you ignored, nationality, race, gender, ethnicity etc.

[noble tundra]

Typa Chinese philosophy we didn't reach yet

[fervent oxide]

there are a lot more than we are just human

[ebon bluff]

fr

[fervent oxide]

no fuck that's not the case

race is matter, nationality is matter, gender is matter

everything that makes the human different is matter

that is the defacto reality

[plain ruin]

If we're talking about solution, 2 states may work in the short term as a bridge to making a single state

That's the most important part and not many people, if ANY even talk about this line of thought

[tender bison]

If you think people of different origins should have less rights, you are a racist shit

[fervent oxide]

I'm not saying that, but they aren't the same

[noble tundra]

Ig u mean we should serve justice not equality between men and women
For each Their rights

[tender bison]

Women and men should be treated the exact same

[fervent oxide]

and their right is dependent on where they live in what sovereign nation

[livid blade]

Can you actually read the context of the conversation that was said in?

I'm literally a post-nationalist.

However, while a literal genocide is going on, I don't think that's the best time to debate about what the most ideal and utopian solution is going to be. You need to find the solution that is the most immediately achievable and can bring relief to the people. Inspite of all its flaws, that solution is the 2 state solution.
Because right now, the only 2 realistic options, in the short term, are 2 state solution or an apartheid one-state.

Once you have peace, you can start talking about whether religious nationalism etc should exist or not

[tender bison]

Case closed

[fervent oxide]

you live in America or Canada or Britain you have different rights

that's the truth

[tender bison]

Canada is in America

[fervent oxide]

I live in China, I can sex with my wife without consent legally

[livid blade]

bruh

[tender bison]

America does not mean The United States of America

[tender bison]

That's assault

[noble tundra]

Which will never happen

[fervent oxide]

that's the different rights and privilege granted by my government of being a Chinese

same as yours

[burnt galleon]

I just don’t follow a lot of girls until recently.

So I don’t have to fixate upon women to be a feminist, just leaving them alone & giving them their whole rights as I already do, correct?

[livid blade]

what rights should women not have which men should? (and vice a versa)

[fervent oxide]

America should only mean the United States of America

and the United States of America is entitled to all Americas

[tender bison]

Doofus

The USA is the United States of America, it's a bunch of little states residing in America, that come together to form a country

[noble tundra]

You're losing abit of your asian iq each day

[tender bison]

America refers to North and South America

[ebon bluff]

side effects of rice

[tender bison]

Privilege? Fuck, that is taking advantage of someone. No. Means. NO! HOW DO WE DRILL IT INTO YOUR DENSE FUCKING SKULL?

[plain ruin]

It's worth mentioning what the long term goals are as well
The 2 state bullshit has been going on for a 100 years at this point, and is being actively used as a way to justify seeing Palestinians as the "other"

Being okay with the 2 state solution in the short term should be followed up by pointing out a long term goal as well, because for the last several decades, the people of the world have accepted peace deals/ceasefires in the region and then become apathetic all over again.

Every time we're talking about a solution, it SHOULD include what we ought to do in the long term as well, as a constant reminder that the 2 state idea is just a stepping stone

[fervent oxide]

I mean the United States of America, is entitled to all lands in Americas

do you know what I mean ?

[tender bison]

No

[livid blade]

I think a lot of people don't understand what feminism means.
Feminism is a movement for social, political and economic equality for all genders.
That's it.
It's not about female supremacy or whatever other lies right wingers spread.

[tender bison]

The USA does not get Canada

Nor Mexico

[fervent oxide]

they should get it

and Mexico as well

[tender bison]

Fucking hell, what is wrong with you?

[ebon bluff]

here we go again

[tender bison]

Are you insane?

[livid blade]

That's what I said though....

[tender bison]

Seek help

I'm gonna go to sleep

[fervent oxide]

make Canadians and Mexicans under IRS... my fav

[tender bison]

It's 3 AM

[tender bison]

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

[fervent oxide]

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE UNDER THE IRS

[livid blade]

sometimes I have a hard time believing you're chinese 😔

[ebon bluff]

its always so fun watching people get to know minecraft

[tender bison]

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

[livid blade]

including Trump?

[livid blade]

lol same!

[tender bison]

Yeah and including Israel

[livid blade]

[tender bison]

And China

[fervent oxide]

Trump is under the IRS

[tender bison]

So China and Israel should be too

[plain ruin]

Not in anywhere close to the right manner, you said:
"In the long term, we need to delve into the root causes of the conflict to resolve the problem"

That's the most generic response you could've given that applies to literally any conflict

You could've easily said that in the long term, having a single state with equality between all religions/ethnicities would be far more ideal

[fervent oxide]

depends, if that's gonna happen yes

[viscid magnet]

U said u r feminine how do you define feminine?

[tender bison]

And why are you asking?

[livid blade]

no, he's not
The Supreme court ruled that Trump is exempt from following US law while he is president

[plain ruin]

@noble tundra do you think Nobu is back yet

[viscid magnet]

Aahh i want to know about it thats why

[tender bison]

I'd say I'm a femboy, which is a term used as slang for a twink, or feminine boy

I'm a dude, but I have feminine attributes

[noble tundra]

Idk
not so active lately

[livid blade]

did you even read what I wrote?
Why would I support a one state solution in the long term when I am a post nationalist. In the long term, I support the zero state solution.

[fervent oxide]

I am a dude I also have feminine attributives

look at my fucking profile

[plain ruin]

The point is that in discussion, that point should be made explicit, to help prevent the apathy we've had for the last dozens of decades...

[tender bison]

Femboy alert

[fervent oxide]

and say I'm a Trump supporter

[noble tundra]

Water is wet ahh

We all know

[tender bison]

You just said you support him

[fervent oxide]

and I am white

[plain ruin]

When you dropping your douyin 😋😱

[tender bison]

Useless info

[fervent oxide]

that is both very men and feminine

that's what makes me more attractive

I am white

[plain ruin]

YOOOOOOOOOO

[ebon bluff]

WTF

[tender bison]

Ohoh dude you have like a sextuple chun

[viscid magnet]

Ohh I'm into femboys whats your age

[livid blade]

what's wrong with it being broadly applicable to any conflict? The israel palestine conflict is not some one-in-a-million type of conflict. Similar conflict are everywhere.
The western media just cares about this one more.

[tender bison]

I'm a minor

[viscid magnet]

Ohhh

Its ok

[livid blade]

wtf

[ebon bluff]

wait what

[livid blade]

WTF

[tender bison]

It's ok what

[livid blade]

#🛂｜report-help

[tender bison]

Let him type

[viscid magnet]

I mean its ok I'm not pe do

[ebon bluff]

oh

[tender bison]

Okay good

He's not a minecraft

[viscid magnet]

Why?

[tender bison]

Cause we're playing bendy

[ebon bluff]

oh please no one can be him

[viscid magnet]

What is bendy?

[livid blade]

tbh he's not the worst I've seen
you haven't seen the crowd from Politics yet

[plain ruin]

You said your long term solution is "Looking into the root causes and resolving the conflict that way"

That's like when you ask your parent if you can eat out today and they say "We'll see" 😭

You already have an idea of a long term solution and you're giving a generic response

[tender bison]

Gn

[noble tundra]

Let's fuck around and find out ahh solution

[plain ruin]

We've totally not been doing this for the last 80 years

[noble tundra]

Khyah

[plain ruin]

Yeah let's just demand a simple ceasefire and not remember to bring up what we actually need after the ceasefire

[livid blade]

again, the response made sense within the context of the conversation it was made in.

Also, I'm not chatgpt which can write out comprehensive 2000 word essays in 5 secs

this is such an unrealistic expectation for a casual discord convo

[plain ruin]

Bro...
Just say "Long term, we should look into a single state solution with equality for all people"

The FUCK

[livid blade]

did you read my previous response to this exact remark?

[livid blade]

Also, stop editorializing my answers

If you like, you can say it

Who are you to tell me what to do- I'll frame things the way I want to frame them

[noble tundra]

"I'm just a liberal 🎀🥺"

[livid blade]

cool, good for you

[plain ruin]

Nvm you're just lazy

[livid blade]

lol, holy cope

[plain ruin]

"2000 words in 5 seconds"
One god damn sentence

[livid blade]

Every time I come here, I get reminded of why I used to avoid this place.

[livid blade]

Even 10 yr olds have more EQ than you- stop whining

[noble tundra]

Cuz we got u out of your comfort zone?

[plain ruin]

You're the lukewarm supporter lol

[noble tundra]

Ic ic

[livid blade]

ok, so?

you think everyone's world revolves around your problems?

[plain ruin]

Yes, glad you accepted what you are🙏

[livid blade]

and so????

This is insane

[plain ruin]

No, I just think that we as humans should ACTUALLY give a fuck about these sorts of things in a proper capacity if we're going to demand peace, instead of trivializing it

[livid blade]

tbh yeah
I'm too used to talking to people with above room temp IQ.

[plain ruin]

This is so republican-esque ew

[plain ruin]

Nobu Yubu...

[livid blade]

read the message you replied to and then your response once again

[noble tundra]

:

"Let's call whoever disagree with me a dumbass"

[plain ruin]

Have a read of this first
I gave you advice so that you could be a better supporter of peace instead of downplaying/trivializing the end goal to "Let's see"

And you're talking about my IQ/EQ...

[noble tundra]

Dawgs believes in the same ideas and manages to fight

Splendid

[plain ruin]

It's not that hard to just say the right sentence... An idea of a single state which you already support...?

Talking about 2000 words in 5 seconds and shit??? The fuck

[plain ruin]

LITERALLY 😭😭😭😭😭🙏

Lukewarm supporters are the reason that most issues still exist

[noble tundra]

There's a proverb in Arabic that goes by
"The best speech is that which is concise and meaningful"

خير الكلام ماقل ودل

[plain ruin]

خير = best
right?

[noble tundra]

In this context Yea

[plain ruin]

What other contexts are there

Oh yeah, it can also mean good

[pseudo flume]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DYjNN2KsWkx/?

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭

[pseudo flume]

Not Ai btw, she posted it on her insta

[plain ruin]

Ik bro, his forehead is shining

Shit's got a bump too

None of our tseries bots would want to see either of those things when making AI prompts

[shell hemlock]

why are you alway so snarky, are you that miserable

you can't hold a normal peaceful conversation at all can you

[pseudo flume]

Feeling proud indian army

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1363178802011701268.gif

[plain ruin]

Atp they're projecting tbh

[turbid dome]

2 state solution is now even more obviously a sham to preserve colonialism than before. A Palestinian state is impossible while an Israeli state exists because the Israeli state will be able to exercise complete control. It’s pretty much hoping that by calling Palestine a state they will magically through reifying recognition change the situation on the ground

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan cough

[urban swift]

That's kinda lovely moment ngl

[shell hemlock]

watching now to see how the individual is gonna defend this bullshitery

[turbid dome]

“We are looking forward to forming an independent advisory council with the aims of producing a concept of a recommendation for a plan to establish a mechanism to ensure the 2 state solution can be implemented.”

[magic olive]

Made your custom

And also chill

[shell hemlock]

Yes dad 😔😔😔😔😔

[pseudo flume]

I'm suffering, you must give me a better role before I die, heatwave will kill me

[abstract cypress]

why are you maga

[pseudo flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301240925875474525/1506608087417622588/1000110615-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[fervent oxide]

because I know what's the best for the nation

[abstract cypress]

you're chinese

[tribal flower]

To me, he looks like he is telling you that he is some sort-of a God-like who can strike lightnings

1077086648539553903

In reality he, they or whatever realize in the end that he is a normie

[fresh flower]

What happened bro

[shell hemlock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301240925875474525/1506608087417622588/1000110615-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[frail fern]

Ebola

[fallen hatch]

I support lgbtq

[magic olive]

Stay hydrated broski

Bro you’re a mod

[pseudo flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301240925875474525/1506608087417622588/1000110615-ezgif.com-resize.gif

We aren't bros anymore, don't call me broski

[magic olive]

Maskhoor sister

[burnt galleon]

TYSM!

[fervent oxide]

Dude at least we agree that American people do deserve the best they could have

That’s the reason I would say national interest in the first place

[shy summit]

Don’t even try to justify it. Just stop talking.

[fervent oxide]

If there’s no interest why would we have to do it

[shy summit]

Stop. Talking. You’re only digging your hole deeper.

[abstract cypress]

no way ur serious

[fresh flower]

Can you make the arrows red next time

[shy summit]

They are red

[obsidian yarrow]

heyy,hiii everyone iam new here is anyone there

[high rapids]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRtnuonk/

[empty dust]

My grandpa passed away this morning 😭

[high rapids]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRtWSay1/

[manic juniper]

Condolences my guy, when was the last time you communicated with him

[empty dust]

3 days ago in the hospital

Thank you

[manic juniper]

Did he become unconscious or comatose afterwards

[empty dust]

No

[high fractal]

You support lgptq?

[high rapids]

You support lgbtq?

[high fractal]

Respectfully no

[high rapids]

Why

[elder willow]

too bad i am the president of lesbian protection front

[burnt galleon]

I am one of them.

LGBTQIA2S+.
I stands for intersexuality and I was born an intersex.

[elder willow]

they will kill them

that's what their religion says

yeah you are from the LRA and i am the head of LPF

oh where do they live hell

[burnt galleon]

Well, under a literal misintereptation, snails shouldn’t exist.

But this is from the few verses that the founders of Abrahamic text explains it as abt abstract concepts, not biosex and gender identity.

[elder willow]

i haven't found any today so 0

[high rapids]

I'm sure you belive such things

[burnt galleon]

Indeed.

Abrahamic religions are against us, but also against oppression.

But the gov will support and will keep oppressing.

[elder willow]

well right now i am providing protection to 3 lesbians right now

[elder willow]

so how do abrahmic religion deal with your kind . if they also don't oppress

i mean look at the hijabs

[high fractal]

From my perspective modern lgptq movements normalize things I personally believe society shouldn’t encourage. I think ppl should be treated with respect no matter what but acceptance and support r different things. If u disagree, explain why!

[elder willow]

that's for you

[shell hemlock]

9/10 ragebait 🫪

[long ore]

What oppression!

[burnt galleon]

Forced mutilation.

Ppl like me are usually born with perfect health, but this nonconsual surgery causes too many diseases.

[high fractal]

I understand ur situation is different since being intersex is a biological condition someone can be born with, and I’m not attacking u personally for tht, my disagreement is more with the broader LGBTQ movement and some of the ideas promoted around it not with treating ppl respectfully as human beings

[elder willow]

no i know about inbreeding tho

[elder willow]

ohh so it completely not fine to be gay or lesbian
damn that's crazy

[elder willow]

about this

[long ore]

Being forced to wear it in Islam is forbidden, am Muslim and am not wearing it

[elder willow]

oh so the priest will literally fuck the women . damn that's perverted

damn i didn't knew that .
@long ore is this true

[long ore]

Because I don't want to , and I believe Muslim men are the one that invented it to control women , I mean they say that we should wear it so no other man would look at us in a pervert way

But i still see many hijabs being harrased

[high fractal]

Huh

[long ore]

Halal is permissible

[elder willow]

idk but from my perspective even telling someone to wear what i have said . is oppression to the free mind

[long ore]

No the hell we don't have a priest

[elder willow]

so it happens

[high fractal]

That’s COMPLETELY false. There’s no priest system in Islam like tht and no priest has any right to touch or sleep with a divorced woman for remarriage permission. u r probably confusing or twisting the concept of halala, which itself is heavily misunderstood and often abused culturally. If u criticizing a religion, at least criticize the actual teachings instead of spreading random misinformation

[elder willow]

let me search

[high fractal]

Pls do

[shell hemlock]

Bro said priest and Islam in the same sentence

[long ore]

Yes of course it is I don't believe anyone should be told what to do

[long ore]

No no I misunderstood what he said I thought he meant the word halal

Imam?

Your information is wrong though, because first of all , having sex before marriage is forbidden in Islam, divorce is allowed in Islam , so no way that would happen

And if it happened, they are going to hell gg

[elder willow]

damn this fucking GPT not working

[shell hemlock]

That is not at all completely true, you made a mistake

[long ore]

That whole concept is forbidden 😭 in Islam marriage can't be with the intention of getting divorce, so even if a man wanted his divorced wife back, its forbidden that she marries someone else just to divorce him and return to him

[shell hemlock]

There is a Hadith somewhere that implied prophet Muhammad strongly condemn this practice

[high rapids]

Are you cooking?

[wind zephyr]

Hmm

[long ore]

Well your Muslim friend must be not religious

[wind zephyr]

Intresting topic

[long ore]

The whole idea is wrong man, you can't Marry and have sex just to divorce and return to the ex

[wind zephyr]

This happens in halala

[long ore]

What the hell is halala

[wind zephyr]

Halala" most commonly refers to Nikah Halala, a controversial Islamic practice where a divorced woman must marry another man, consummate the marriage, and divorce again before she can remarry her first husband.

[shell hemlock]

What’s the correlation with this topic?

[long ore]

I respect your opinion, but am trying to correct the information you have , as a human with a brain do you think a religion would allow that?

[long ore]

Nikah is marriage

[wind zephyr]

Nikah halala

Read it carefully

[long ore]

You all have no sources its my relegiyi know what nikah is

[summer sphinx]

halala isn't given in the Qur'an btw

[wind zephyr]

There have centre for this

[shell hemlock]

You mentioned the practice of Halala Nikah right? What’s it has anything to do with the wives of Prophet Muhammad? Is there a correlation? Or is there a hinting implication you’re trying to make here

[summer sphinx]

sorry bro just saw ur bio had to take the msg back

[long ore]

No am Algerian, and if it's happening, then it's forbidden, use logic man, if a Christian killed someone , would I say Christianity allows killing? No tf of course no, so not because Muslims do it means Islam approved it

[summer sphinx]

nah it's just internal bs that should be stopped

[long ore]

It's okay

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[long ore]

I read the whole Quran and I am pretty sure this shi is forbidden

[elder willow]

idk i GPT it and it's say no sex with priest . their is no document which says this . but people misused this rule . that's what gpt says

[empty dust]

Grrrrr

[wind zephyr]

But this still happen

[shell hemlock]

You’re running away from the claims you are making, that tells me enough

[summer sphinx]

u see there's nothing like halala here but they r using this thing as a rule to get married to the husband again. they r faking a marriage to remarry the husband after divorce this is bs this shouldn't be done

[wind zephyr]

[burnt galleon]

The broader are abt the number of partners, biological variants, and nonbinary identities.

Abrahamic religions are okay with that as long as not Achillian and Sapphic relationships, cross-gender identities, nor poly women.

[high fractal]

You’re leaving out an important part on purpose. Islam does not allow fake temporary marriages arranged just to make the woman halal again for the first husband. A planned halala setup done only for sex and divorce is considered sinful. The rule was meant to stop men from abusing divorce repeatedly not to create some sleep with another man for permission ritual like u describedd

[shell hemlock]

Make your point then because I don’t see you doing so

[wind zephyr]

They don't just want to accept

[summer sphinx]

its if the other husband also divorces her the woman isn't to be blamed and stranded and the former husband can take her in care again but they r abusing this formality disgustingly

[long ore]

Your sources are wrong

[shell hemlock]

You also misquote the Quran verse btw

[long ore]

Does that mean it's allowed? No it's not

[elder willow]

i can't keep up with the chat

[summer sphinx]

its not the religion its the people

[wind zephyr]

But they follow this for religious reasons

[long ore]

Yeah I noticed

[summer sphinx]

attack the imam then

[long ore]

No they don't, people make up things and put it in the name of Islam, Muslim men specially, would create anything for their lustful reasons

[summer sphinx]

huh

[wind zephyr]

[long ore]

So if am a killer, Islam is gonna be called a religion of killing just because am Muslim?

[elder willow]

damn sickest

[shell hemlock]

Bro said imam are the messenger of Allah 😭

[long ore]

Who the hell said imams are messengers of god😭

[summer sphinx]

lmao they r just preachers who can be wrong and pathetic

[shell hemlock]

Just disengage atp he’s approaching the topic in bad faith

[high fractal]

U r mixing biological conditions, personal identities and religious morality into one box as if they r all the same thing. Most Abrahamic religions distinguish between respecting a person and approving every relationship or identity claim. Just because a religion sets boundaries on sexuality or gender doesn’t mean it hates people...

[long ore]

And the book DOESN'T allow anything like that

[shell hemlock]

@magic olive bro free MacBook so we can play Minecraft together

[fresh flower]

Ya Allah what happened here...

[summer sphinx]

yes attack the fake wrong preachers not the religion

[wind zephyr]

U become muslim

[summer sphinx]

halala debate

[long ore]

So if they do bad it's the religion's fault?

[noble tundra]

And She's not a scammer obviously

[fresh flower]

Never seen you in masjid

[summer sphinx]

Allah sees me

[wind zephyr]

If they do this for religious reasons ,then yes

[shell hemlock]

Yeah it’s so legit, comes with a free charger

[long ore]

And they don't! End of discussion, religion doesn't allow that

[elder willow]

well yeah the resposibility of maintaning an image lies on the shoulders of their people . when some do something bad . it's your resposibility to fix . the people who are mocking or asking questions do not have the obligation to fix it .
that's what happen with terrorism aswell . muslims nations say the terrorist nation follow their own ideology . and they are demining the name of islam . but dthey do anything to fix it . no , logically if someone damaging your image you will confront and fix the issue . but i don't see these things with islamist nation

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/chess-smirk-en-mewing-chess-kid-gif-6925056696049047421

Fair play mf... Fair play

[wind zephyr]

Oh really , wake up from dreams

[wind zephyr]

Chess?

[fresh flower]

Yeah that's chess bro, good eyes

[wind zephyr]

Wanna play chess?

[fresh flower]

It's a waste of time, I don't play chess

[burnt galleon]

Indeed. U can be asexual. It’s LGBTQ+ and not forbidden.

[wind zephyr]

How about bullet?

U only waste 2 min

[noble tundra]

Chess for ADHDs

[fresh flower]

If you want an intellectual challenge, play fortnite

[noble tundra]

Nuh 2 min is long

[wind zephyr]

Adhds full form?

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[noble tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

[long ore]

That's what I am doing, am correcting the image you all have of Islam, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, many people on social media defend Islam daily, but what do you all do ? You ignore it, am not gonna lie Islamic counties government sucks , but that doesn't make the religion the reason, so no even if ALLL Muslims became bad , that doesn't allow you to judge the religion, if you didn't study Islam , you can't judge it based on people, big example me since i was young I was taught what Muslim men have in their desires instead of my actual religion, so I learned by myself, and that's the best decision

[wind zephyr]

I don't want any addiction

[long ore]

Educated yourself,you don't even try to understand the religion, you just judge based on what everyone tells you

[elder willow]

i see well yeah what you sayed make sense . but i am still scared of islam

[burnt galleon]

Religion isn’t hateful.

It’s the law.

It pretends to support and at the same time oppresses. Religion has extreme punishment (like ampution), but it’s explicitly against oppressing bandits and theifs.

[wind zephyr]

Hm can u tell this to victims of terrorism?

[fresh flower]

He's Hindu

[noble tundra]

Have u watched the last ep of the boys yet?

[wind zephyr]

Is that matter?

[fresh flower]

I literally just skipped past most of it, pure ass, I knew it would be top 5 worst finales ever

[long ore]

Just respect people, you have no right to disrespect Muslims and Islam without actuality studying their religion

[noble tundra]

It's fine for me
Idk what they did with soldier boy

[fresh flower]

Yes, you have BJP view on Islam

[wind zephyr]

Hm bjp view , I don't follow any bjp party

[fresh flower]

They just put him to sleep so they have an excuse for the spinoff (There will be 2 spinoffs)

[noble tundra]

Ig they said it will tell his past

[long ore]

Again educate yourself Islam strictly forbids terrorism, and all terrorists regarding their religion are going to hell

[long ore]

Doesn't matter, I respect everyone

[wind zephyr]

Educate ur brain washed muslims then no need to educate me about islam

[high fractal]

Tht may be true for asexuality but my disagreement was never about every single individual under the label. Myy point is that just bc a movement contains some neutral things doesn’t mean I have to support the entire ideology attached to it uk

[noble tundra]

Y'all are bums fr

[shell hemlock]

Guys is this N*bu

[long ore]

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him didn't write it, he can't read or write, his men are the one who kept collecting the verses

[shell hemlock]

Can we do an alt check

[elder willow]

well i have some facts tho . i care about science alot. and i have seen where ever the islam is their it is almost neglegible scientific investions and discovries . the last time i hear muslim discovered somthing was the arabic number . no new investions or discoveres in past 200 years 300 or 400 years. for me that scares me . if islam takes over . their will be no scientifc investions and no acknowledgment

[fresh flower]

That one can be defended, at least there's lore, but the other one... The other spinoff is "The Boys: Mexico" 💀

[wind zephyr]

U need levels ig

[high fractal]

Every legal or moral system has punishments and boundaries whether religious or secular. The question is whether those laws r meant to create justice and order or random oppression. Religion doesn’t claim humans r perfect at applying laws either.... Ppl can misuse religion, just like govts misuse secular laws so judging a religion only by extreme examples or bad followers isn’t really fair

[noble tundra]

Starlight son

[long ore]

And no prophet doesn't LOVE oppressing woman, that's totally wrong , prophet forbade any harm that a man can do upon women , even his Last message to people before he died was take care of women, and if you're gonna mention ahadiths , am a Muslim who doesn't believe in most of them, there's ahadiths that are so false I can tell the prophet wouldn't say such a thing

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[long ore]

Stubborn head, go heal please

[wind zephyr]

Heal from what?

[long ore]

If you're talking about kufar ( non believers) that's totally false, god is the most merciful, not me not anyone can say you're going to hell just because you don't believe, Allah knows who's a good person and who's a bad person, so no it's false

[long ore]

Your racism and full hater , learn to get a life

[shell hemlock]

Just disengage it’s a useless debate

[summer sphinx]

don't argue no more bro brick wall condition now

[wind zephyr]

Oh , no thanks I am fine with this

[shell hemlock]

It’s not progressive, it doesn’t go anywhere

[wind zephyr]

And if u want to marry again u have to go through halala XD

[long ore]

I think your sources are false, or you believe anything anyone tells you , because I learned my religion by myself, I don't believe anyone, and I don't wait for anyone to actually explain my religion to me

[wind zephyr]

a temporary wife

[high fractal]

Huh look Islam teaches tht truth and falsehood r not the same, so yes, Muslims believe rejecting God knowingly is spiritually dangerous. But tht doesn’t mean Muslims r told to hate every non muslim or treat them badly. The quran itself tells Muslims to act with justice, kindness and good character toward even non muslims

[shy summit]

Islam is not a person, it is an idea, and therefore-like any other idea, the community should clown it to see if it’s true or false.

[long ore]

That's totally false, divorce is allowed in Islam, plus women can do khol3 , which is divorce technically and leaving him and taking custody of the children and his money (nafa9a)

[long ore]

Sorry I can't let anyone spread misinformation

[high fractal]

Yea

[shy summit]

It may be allowed dejure, but defacto? That depends on your country.

The practice varies from place to place, and the bar is set quite high (for women specifically) that a divorce becomes an untenable prospect.

[long ore]

Please don't use Google and chat gbt, they are based on what most of social media posts about, either you actually read the book Quran and try to understand, or please respect people

[shell hemlock]

While it’s logical* to point out something, it’s important to not quote the wrong things… which is what Sussy did

[long ore]

Yes

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[summer sphinx]

ur arguing with an indian brodi

[shy summit]

True,… little @dark ice baka

[long ore]

Does the country represent Islam? No

[shy summit]

To an extent, it can

Much how christian majority countries represent the belief of christianity.

[long ore]

Can you explain i didn't understand what you meant

[shell hemlock]

I asked him what he meant and I said his claims is not completely true, he inserted a completely different topic to divert and implied something else 🪦🪦🪦🪦

[shy summit]

🤷‍♂️

[wind zephyr]

[shell hemlock]

Gurl tbh when it comes to Islam sometimes it’s better to not engage I know it can be hard to hear people spread misinformation or obviously some people approach in bad faith

[high fractal]

U r speaking from assumptions rather than actual Islamic belief. Muslims believe the Qur'an is revelation from Allah not smtg our Prophet invented for power.. Historically, he was persecuted, boycotted, attacked, and lived very simply for years before Muslims even had political authority, so reducing everything to a king wanting women and war ignores a lot of context

[shell hemlock]

It happens all the time

[long ore]

I don't base my prescriptive of Christianity according to the country, I have many Christian friends from the USA for example, you see how trump is nearly a dictator, does that mean Christians are bad?

[shy summit]

While technically true, the Prophet is held to such reverence it’s comparable to worship in other faiths.

The Mormons do this exact same thing with Joseph Smith.

[long ore]

I don't care if he's indian, if I judge him according to his identity or religion, it's like acting like him judging islam

[high fractal]

Yea bc Islam mainly cares abt what beliefs or worship practices r attached to an action. Relaxation, breathing exercises or mindfulness by themselves r not the issue. The concern starts when spiritual practices involve shirk or religious rituals conflicting with Islamic belief

[shy summit]

When Christians are voting for Pedophiles, thinking he is a devout paragon of virtue- what does that say about christendom.

Mind you, they voted for him already knowing he was unfaithful and a rapist.

[fresh flower]

It doesn't say much tbh

[noble tundra]

Nothing
That maybe says something about Americans but not all christians

[shy summit]

What does that say of their moral covenants?

[long ore]

Well I know but god asked us to never allow misinformation, امروا بالمعروف و انهوا عن المنكر

[elder willow]

i don't think nationality have any role here . i asked the same question to an indian . that why you guys hate islam so much . he replied because of terrorism . indians are facing terrorist attacj for about 70 years he said . which made the persception of islam toward indian pretty hatefull and traumatising . while hearing him say that it made me realise . he is right , you can not expect someone to respect you when you hit them

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[shy summit]

You cannot separate the text from its practitioners.

[fresh flower]

That's like attributing crime to blacks, school shootings to trans etc, you can't judge a group of people based on what a few do

[long ore]

Nothing? I don't believe Christianity support it, just because some Christians support something doesn't mean the religion does

[shy summit]

When the Catholic Church was found to have been hiding mass child abuse, what does that say of Catholicism

[mystic bay]

But that assumes that they are indeed practitioners

[shell hemlock]

That’s different in an environment like this channel or discord overall 😭

[high fractal]

Respect and worship not the same thing in Islam. Muslims deeply respect prophet bc they believe he delivered God’s message but worship is directed only to Allah. In fact, Islamic teachings repeatedly warn Muslims not to worship the Prophet or raise him to divine status. Following a prophet’s teachings is not automatically the same as worshipping him

[shy summit]

Christianity is not a person, all that matters is how the idea is practiced.

[wind zephyr]

why I am reading long paragraphs

[shy summit]

This idea that Christendom is not interpreted and reinterpreted, that there is somehow this moral separation from the system and those that constitute it, is massive cope.

[fresh flower]

Weak ragebait

[long ore]

Well it's understandable, but he has no right to judge the whole religion, and not to forget didn't India get colonized by British people? Why don't they hate christians then? They only hate on Islam and that's pretty weird for me

[elder willow]

can you tell me what is the main issue why aren't muslim nation ain't able to compete globally . except the oil rich nation . i wanted to know what are the fundamental reasons

[wind zephyr]

U are ex muslim

[shy summit]

You cannot separate the law from the one who continues to interpret, reinterpret and practice it.

[noble tundra]

If 99% which are 2 billions and somthin were bad u won't be alive

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/a4c712-dashera4c-nonchalant-gamer-i'm-speechless-speechless-gif-13022095084831385298

[shy summit]

The law and law makers (the upholders) are inseparable.

[wind zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-never-cry-gif-11153369471138215812

[long ore]

I don't care about that , a religion is a religion, a person is a person, I learn the religion through it's sources not through people

[long ore]

I know I know but still I want to

[shy summit]

Religion is an idea constructed BY the people that constitute it.

[noble tundra]

People change upon times
Religion doesn't

[wind zephyr]

We are alive cuz we are fighting them for 1000 years not because they are good

[fresh flower]

Crazy how people feel comfortable judging a group of people based on the actions of a few but if you were to do that for immigrants, gays, trans and whatnot then it would be "Problematic"

[elder willow]

cause their are no christians killing indians now . and yeah indian do hate britishers even till now . i mean i had watch some bollywood movies and it is still quiet previlent

[shy summit]

The text is pointless and arguably less useful than studying the ways in which a religion is practiced

[fresh flower]

We live in a society

[noble tundra]

Whos we

[long ore]

You know what? You have zero respect and actual points , am arguing with someone who's source is google and chat gbt

[shy summit]

If the bible calls for the stoning of homosexuals, but no one does it, do I still hold the stoning against it?

[summer sphinx]

not talking about judging but about arguing

[noble tundra]

Bro's wanna make everything about that specific topic every fucking time 😭 we got it mate

[wind zephyr]

Whom u refer in previous comments

[high fractal]

It’s not really an islam problem as much as a historical, political and economic one. Many Muslim majority countries went through colonization, wars, corruption, foreign interference, weak education systems, brain drain, and unstable govts for decades. Meanwhile nations tht invested heavily in science, industry, technology and institutions became global powers regardless of religion. Islam historically had periods where Muslim civilizations led the world in mathematics, medicine, astronomy and trade, so the issue is more abt modern governance and development than the religion itself

[fresh flower]

You're witnessing the dangers of libs

[shy summit]

The issue is that the texts are not representative of how people interpret and practice them.

[noble tundra]

Who are" We"
Aren't u an atheist
How did u fought islam for 1000 years explain

[shy summit]

It is an argument meant to disown ‘bad eggs’

And I reject it.

[noble tundra]

Fair enough

[long ore]

If that's so , indians hate and kill Pakistanis till now , and why ? Because Pakistanis are Muslims, and if you're gonna kill people based on their religion and justify that , then discussion is useless

[wind zephyr]

Bro we face hundred year of colonization including mughal and Delhi sultanate

[summer sphinx]

layers to ts that would take too long to explain but here's the thing do u know what makes people come together more than love? its hate. Hate brings them together and helps control them

[elder willow]

i think it is justifiable the judgment . cause i previously told islamist nation ain't do anything to these terrorist group . so it automatically gives the perspective that the government supports them . so i don't think indians are wrong here . it's your people resposibility to clean the image by forcing the government to take actions on them .

[shy summit]

True to some extent.

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[shy summit]

If the US doesn’t put down white nationalist groups it can be said that they are giving aid to them.

[elder willow]

ok but when their is a room to fix the activity which was done , and the oppressor do not fix it . don't you think it will annoy the oppressed people . and for my opinion india still faces terrorist attack . which do not let the wound to heal .

[long ore]

I told you previously that it's obvious that the government sucks , and they don't actually follow the rules of Islam , which forbids terrorism, but do you expect me to accept someone to disrespect my religion just because his people got killed by a group of Muslims? That's illogical, people should mature actually, and learn to never judge, my country was colonized by France, which is a Christian country but have I ever hated on Christians just because?

[noble tundra]

Ig u should consider hatred for it

France not Christianity

Tf is that

[long ore]

I hate on the one who colonized me , not modern french people

[noble tundra]

Fair enough

[long ore]

Okay we lost the plot here

[elder willow]

that's your personal opinion and personal habits to not hate on someone .
but for my experience i have found the most toxic people are muslims in discord . so here it neglify your perspective

[long ore]

Again, don't generalize , doesn't mean because you met a lot of toxic people, that you have the right to call us all toxic , and no it's not only my opinion not to hate on someone, it's basic sympathy, stop hating on people and stop spreading hate, can't we all just respect each other regarding religions?

[elder willow]

i mean world is not fair . people like to hate . and generalise things . to make them feel better that they are better . so to simply fix that your people need to fix themself not the indians . they will eventually stop hating on your religion . when the issue got resolved . do it like how japanese did . they did atrocities over the years but now japanese people considered the most respect people . how does this happend . just by fixing the issue . the world back then also hated the japanese

i mean so far she accepted that islam have some problems and needed to fix . this is the first time a muslim accepted it . so i don't think she is toxic

[high fractal]

Absolutely She is

[elder willow]

we all just respect each other regarding religions?
we can't it is biological to hate on something for humans

[high fractal]

Sit down

[long ore]

Everyone should fix themselves, I don't judge Indians for hating us because some Muslims attacked them, but they should learn to mature and grow up and stop generalizing and stop giving excuses for their hate , and also toxic Muslims should fix themselves, and that's it's , I hope we all stop the hate and learn to respect one another

[long ore]

Hate exists yeah , but are you an animal who can't control it? No! You have the ability to respect others

[elder willow]

well that's an opinion . i knew it will never happen. cause biology and evolution do not allow this

[long ore]

Biology doesn't decide in your place , here for example, we're having a discussion, is biology forcing you to disrespect me? No I don't think so

[elder willow]

i have the ability to control it . that doesn't mean the masses have the ability to do so .

[rocky saffron]

genuine question but what is the concept of hating on anyone just because they're different? ig that stereotypes exist, sadly, but generalizing them to people who just live their lives without hurting anyone is dumb

[long ore]

Am talking about you , you're your own self, look we're in the real world, hate will exist wether we like it or not, but that doesn't mean you yourself should be hateful

[long ore]

Exactly

Love everyone

[elder willow]

yeah cause i have some example of great people whom i consider my idol . otherwise i would have also disrespected

[rocky saffron]

you're sooooo dark

[long ore]

That's the point, you respect people, keep doing that

[elder willow]

i am not hateful toward islam . but i am more of scared of them .

[long ore]

I don't know why he is doing that

[long ore]

Scared of what? Terrorist?

[elder willow]

thanks

[elder willow]

nope

[long ore]

Then what

[fresh flower]

He's scared of hummus

[elder willow]

less scientific development

[long ore]

Hummus is delicious though 😔

[rocky saffron]

if you want to be afraid, u should be afraid of far right. in Europe, 70 percent of terrorist attacks are done by them

[fresh flower]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

[long ore]

You mean Muslim countries? Yeah it's true

[high fractal]

Ignore him...u explained very well !!! That's why I’m just watching the discussion at this point !

[long ore]

But you can't deny back then Islamic countries were in great development

And they are the reason Europe developed

[fresh flower]

We should all be more scared of the LGBT agenda

[rocky saffron]

nope

far right is what we should fear

[fresh flower]

They want to make everyone gay

[fresh flower]

No difference imo

[rocky saffron]

wth no??

[fresh flower]

No it's true, the forefront of the gay agenda is nordic countries, and gender studies targetting children has become normalised here

Brainwashing children with this is no different than far right propaganda

[rocky saffron]

you are so uneducated it is pityful

[long ore]

Partly anyone targeting children and trying to force those beliefs on them is wrong

Me whay

[fresh flower]

Pitiful*, good argument though that sure proves it wrong 👍🏻

[long ore]

I don't understand what you're trying to say

[fresh flower]

"Terrorists and racists brainwashing children is wrong but gays is fine" is what you'll hear

Bruh

[rocky saffron]

that is not what lgbt+ is about

[fresh flower]

US and Britain bombed it away

[long ore]

Literally, i see it so wrong to allow children to change their gender and sexual interest , that's the brainwash

[elder willow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-gif-5676038700371371386

[long ore]

I must be really ugly then

[fresh flower]

It's grooming, there's no other appropriate term for it

[elder willow]

enough argument for today my quota has been filled cya

[long ore]

Man why are you doing that

[long ore]

Yeah it was a bit exhausting

No

[cobalt saddle]

lol

Worth a shot i guess

[long ore]

Why would it

[cobalt saddle]

Idk, just a saying

[long ore]

Well. You're

[shell hemlock]

I have been spawned

[summer sphinx]

this fkin indian 😭

all it took to change side 😭😭😭

im crine son

😭😭😭

@fresh flower

[summer sphinx]

where u from bro

[noble tundra]

Yeah that's literally nobu

[long ore]

Algeria

[summer sphinx]

nah nobu had determination prolly

[summer sphinx]

shi ig bro

[noble tundra]

He's always into Muslim women

[crisp zephyr]

[summer sphinx]

oh shi

how old is u bro

[long ore]

Then why does he insult Islam🙂

[noble tundra]

Schizophrenic

[long ore]

And you?

[summer sphinx]

bro he hates islam like its his job u don't know him

[crisp zephyr]

Why does he like Muslim women?

[livid skiff]

Making children free is better than ignorance whatever you’re on

[summer sphinx]

how old is u first

[long ore]

Oh so it's not the first time 😭

[crisp zephyr]

[summer sphinx]

indian bro and I'm muslim too

check her bio

[long ore]

In October I'll be 18

[crisp zephyr]

Is it a kind of addiction?

[long ore]

But still yeah

[summer sphinx]

shush..

[long ore]

I know I know

You won't find me here

[summer sphinx]

u is not real

[long ore]

Bro he's just playing around

[summer sphinx]

ik my kind

[long ore]

He's indian too?

[summer sphinx]

yeah duh

[crisp zephyr]

[long ore]

So half of people here are indian

[summer sphinx]

ur not supposed to play around with minors bro

[long ore]

Exactly

[summer sphinx]

not half idk

aight bro

[long ore]

Well most because everyone keeps saying he's indian she's indian

[summer sphinx]

morals buddy

*has

[long ore]

No India is cool

[summer sphinx]

Algeria is the one with flame towers right

[long ore]

I don't know what is it?

[summer sphinx]

no wait that's Azerbaijan

what even is Algeria about

[long ore]

Algeria isssssss uhmmm I don't know bro😭

Just the biggest country in Africa

Maybe we have some cool nature

[summer sphinx]

ig bro

[long ore]

Search about it

I can't send pics

[summer sphinx]

casbah

[long ore]

Yeah that's in the capital

[summer sphinx]

there's sum tower there

algeria looks cool tho

[fresh flower]

Grooming children is "Making them free"?

Disgusting

[long ore]

Ma9am chahid

[long ore]

Just ignore them

[summer sphinx]

huh

[crisp zephyr]

Yeah

[summer sphinx]

holy shi

[elder willow]

what is this nation

[summer sphinx]

algeria

[long ore]

Go to google and search the famous tower in Algeria

[crisp zephyr]

A country with a large area

[elder willow]

hmm i just only know the name

[long ore]

Algeria is in North Africa 🤦🏻

[crisp zephyr]

Algeria

[summer sphinx]

notre dame

[elder willow]

sec c

[long ore]

Nope

ma9am chahid copy my message and put it in chat gbt

[elder willow]

wooh that is an wallpaper

[crisp zephyr]

I know I just want to use it for comparison

[long ore]

Ahaa

[summer sphinx]

maqam echahid

[long ore]

You're from Taiwan?

[long ore]

Yes

[crisp zephyr]

No, China

[summer sphinx]

just found out kingdom of heaven actress is Algerian

[long ore]

Coollll I love China

[summer sphinx]

okay

[summer sphinx]

is u shia or sunni

[crisp zephyr]

[summer sphinx]

no bro

[long ore]

Half I think

[long ore]

Sunni

[summer sphinx]

aight bet i fw u

jk btw Ummah is one

[long ore]

Of course umma is one

[long ore]

Watch him getting mad @dark ice

[elder willow]

i see

[summer sphinx]

imma add u for the sake of it

aight bro

[elder willow]

damn from a debatable chat to simps chat .
how this transformed

[summer sphinx]

ts guy wildin

allat islam and it's book this that

[long ore]

It ain't my fault I swear 🥲

[summer sphinx]

just to end up falling for pixels over dc

and shape his narrative again

[elder willow]

https://tenor.com/view/suletta-ipee-ip-gif-10155329546017187646

[long ore]

https://tenor.com/view/instagram-kallamar-flight-reacts-gif-8654839110166513650

[summer sphinx]

23 yr old..

[summer sphinx]

you'll need perms I think or sum

i believe u bro

[long ore]

Am not pixels😔

[summer sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[summer sphinx]

no like yk

what i mean

[long ore]

Yes yes don't worry bro

[hollow breach]

hello guys

[long ore]

Helloo

[hollow breach]

i feel bad for him

[long ore]

Huh why

[summer sphinx]

i haven't watched the series bro

[long ore]

Ah Dexter

[summer sphinx]

the character was kinda on the good side but killed

[summer sphinx]

im aware just haven't watched

[long ore]

Yeah yeah I know doaks

[hollow breach]

he is dead and falsely accused

[long ore]

I thought she was talking about sussy

[summer sphinx]

do u fw movies and series bro

[long ore]

Who doesn't

[summer sphinx]

*he was

[summer sphinx]

what's ur top recommendation

[long ore]

English?

[summer sphinx]

yeah

i fw iranian movies too tho

[long ore]

Well according to what I watched, YOU , Dexter, Hannibal (sorry I watch a lot serial killer stuff) uhm The walking dead...

[long ore]

Never tried them, but indian was my childhood

[summer sphinx]

indian?

[summer sphinx]

movies bro and if u talking series how haven't u watched the peak Breaking bad and Chernobyl and sopranos which I haven't finished yet

[hollow breach]

same but the dances and singing are too long

[long ore]

Yes I love them so much, like most of Arabs and north Africans childhood was watching indian movies, translated of course or dub, I remember the stories but not the names because they were in Indian and a little too long🥲

[summer sphinx]

have u watched aamir khan movies

[long ore]

You know the famous one of selmane khan where he was the Indian man who saved a little Pakistani girl and returned her to her family

[summer sphinx]

salman khan ayo

[long ore]

I know the actor and I remember watching a lot

[summer sphinx]

bajrangi bhaijaan 😭😭😭

[long ore]

I hope I didn't mispronounce the name

[summer sphinx]

that movie is peakkk

[long ore]

That's the name?

[summer sphinx]

yes bro i remember watching it in cinema and crying ong

[long ore]

Ohhh movies hold up

[long ore]

It was so emotional man when she started talking again

[summer sphinx]

the hugging with mom part

reuniting

[long ore]

I wanna rewatch, but I have a final exam

[summer sphinx]

have u watched Shah rukh khan movies bro

[long ore]

Yeah as a child and even now I cried

[long ore]

Let me search that

[summer sphinx]

bro cmon salman aamir and shah rukh are the top 3 khans with the peak movies

[long ore]

AHHHHHH SHARUKHAN I DIDN'T READ IT FULL

Yes of course 🥲

Who hasn't

[summer sphinx]

check his Raees movie

Om shanti Om

[long ore]

Wait

That's A FAMOUS ONE

[summer sphinx]

have u watched it tho

[long ore]

Yess

[summer sphinx]

lesgo

[pseudo flume]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DVnhNWnk_IJ/?

Nolan who?
This is absolute cinema

[manic juniper]

Simp

Literally got convinced by 🐄

[summer sphinx]

water buffalo

[empty dust]

At grandpa funeral

[summer sphinx]

rip

[noble tundra]

Bro's opening discord in his grandpa funeral 😮‍💨

Can't imagine the grief

[high rapids]

Hello how are you

[empty dust]

I like your pfp

I love mao mao

[noble tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[fresh flower]

Imagine you go to a funeral and you hear the clash of clans sound

[empty dust]

Bro

[high rapids]

May I ask a question

@muted pecan i saw a tiktok where you can play paintball in Polenland while driving tanks have you ever done this

[fresh flower]

What is it kitten

[high rapids]

In your profile you have "I live my gf" I was curious if your girlfriend uses discord too

[muted pecan]

this?

[high rapids]

Yes

[fresh flower]

No thank God

[high rapids]

Why

[high rapids]

Did you ever play it

[muted pecan]

thats 25usd for 60min hell nah

[high rapids]

Is this expensiv

[pseudo flume]

Might be a hindu

[muted pecan]

+thats in zakopane, one of the most expensive tourist cities in poland

[muted pecan]

yaa you'll probably need like 3-4h to actually have some fun, thats a lot of money

[high rapids]

We have to play this with the serious chat crew two members of them are @fervent oxide And @shy summit

[fresh flower]

I hate discordians

[high rapids]

Why is one hour not enough?

[muted pecan]

we playin with the hitler lover? 😭

[high rapids]

Who

[muted pecan]

you ever played paintball or asg even? time flies fast af, after only 1h you'll just be disapointed, you need more time for those things

[high rapids]

She should join this discord

[muted pecan]

minecraft

[high rapids]

No never

[high rapids]

[muted pecan]

i'd say 3-4h is... ok

1h? why

whole day would be the best option

[fresh flower]

Too many LGBT people here bro

[muted pecan]

i gonna do drugs brb

[high rapids]

She doesn't like LGBtQ people

[noble tundra]

He's afraid that i could steal her 😮‍💨

[high rapids]

Take your time

[noble tundra]

Dw I won't

[high rapids]

@noble tundra how is the life in Iraq right now

[noble tundra]

Don't talk to me bich

[high rapids]

Why

[high rapids]

🙁

[high rapids]

😭

[fresh flower]

Most people don't

Some are just more open about it

[high rapids]

With Minecraft and Nale

[livid skiff]

Define grooming

And how is it grooming

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

[quasi needle]

Conservatives like to believe education is grooming them since it teaches them there’s more to life

[livid skiff]

Fowiel

[quasi needle]

Grrrrrrr some people are gay and that’s normal…? how dare my kids be taught this

[fresh flower]

Indoctrination of a child into an ideology counts as grooming, that's true for racism, extremism, and it's also true for gender confusion

[livid skiff]

Gng

[fresh flower]

Most people don't like others for the sole purpose of their sexual preferences

I don't see why anyone would like gay people for the sole purpose of them being gay

[fresh flower]

You asked

[livid skiff]

You gotta count in religions too vrooo, And homophobia too, etc

And question stills stands define grooming

And How is it grooming

[quasi needle]

Indoctrination is when education

[fresh flower]

Yes those count too, I just gave a few examples, and it's also interesting how you yourself count those as grooming yet you draw the line at teaching a single digit age child to be confused about their gender

[fresh flower]

What part of confusing a 7 year old that they can be the opposite gender is "Educaiton"

[quasi needle]

We’ll I think you would supposedly say you believe in science but you seem to be adamant in refusing the sociology of gender identity

[fallow shard]

It's different to educate kids to know that there are different kinds of people than teaching them to turn into one

[livid skiff]

Again how are they grooming and im pretty sure they don't want to be confused of their gender

Not like they're gonna be educating toddlers about sexuality and neuroscience of it and so on

[quasi needle]

Of which NO education system does the latter and it’s just a scaremonger to say so

And patently false

[fresh flower]

Toddler would be wrong but starting from age 7 is fine?

[fresh flower]

Children are very impressionable, there's 0 difference between those two scenarios

"If I teach my Jewish kids that Goys are simply subhuman they surely won't grow up to hate them"

[livid skiff]

Yeah you're definitely talking about Something new or whatever

[fresh flower]

I did and I am, I told you that the forefront of the gay agenda is nordic countries, you're currently arguing against that despite not knowing what we're talking about

[quasi needle]

They’re calling it the worlds most embarrassing lie

[fresh flower]

Children aren't very impressionable?

Interesting take 🤔

[quasi needle]

Of course that’s the part that’s a lie

We have ourselves a genius

[fallow shard]

There's reason why kids hate gay people. Ignorance strengthens hate and if someone learns about gay people when they're 20 they'll think it's not normal

[quasi needle]

The kind you avoid

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-pigeon-walk-doctor-pigeon-pigeon-walk-gif-18363920270242659686

Unlicensed

[fresh flower]

Normalise teaching a child eugenics = They become racist
Normalise teaching a child religious extremism = They become a terrorist
Normalise teaching a child gender confusion = Surely they won't become confused

Invisible red line

[quasi needle]

Idk bro I was taught about the slave trade in year 4 I don’t think I’m into slavery

[fresh flower]

Not a single child hates gays unless their parents teach them that though

[quasi needle]

You’re just obfuscating points to make yourself seem right

[fresh flower]

It's the same with racism

[quasi needle]

Literally no analogy works

Uhhh teaching kids terrorism = they become terrorists

Please log off

[fresh flower]

But it wasn't "Slavery is alright" or "It's okay to be a slave trader"

[fallow shard]

What was your first reaction when you heard about gay people

[quasi needle]

Yeah because being gay isn’t being a slave trader holy fuck

Being gay is normal ≠ be gay

And no kids don’t think like that

That’s just a lie

[fresh flower]

I don't even remember, it's just gays being gays, I'm not talking about gays though or teaching children that it's alright to be one

[quasi needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939288993755983894/1504192607922683934/togif.gif

[fresh flower]

That wasn't the point though

[mystic bay]

Homosexuality is gay

[quasi needle]

Always the closeted gays being the most against it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865329221508923405/1503843275780390992/attachment.gif

[fresh flower]

You're against slavery because you were taught that it was wrong, I'm asking why a 7 year old child would be opposed to being confused about their gender if that's what they get taught

[quasi needle]

🖐️

[quasi needle]

Thank you for thinking I have no moral compass

I wasn’t SIMPLY taught it was bad. I was shown videos of conditions and grim reenactments

[mystic bay]

I bet you even tested out being a slave for a bit

[fresh flower]

Focus on the second point, is a child less or more likely to becoming X if X is told to them to be "Normal and common"

[quasi needle]

Shhh

[quasi needle]

More because they’re no longer pressured to not be themselves

You don’t like it because you don’t like trans people

[fresh flower]

Yes so you agree that it's grooming, thank you

[mystic bay]

I have nothing against homosexuals. I just want them closeted.

[quasi needle]

Strawman of the century

The worlds most embarrassing lie has been overtaken by that slop

[fallow shard]

Teaching kids that something exists doesn't necessarily make them confused. Kids are naturally curious and if the kid wants to explore it later on life then go ahead

Doesn't harm anyone

[quasi needle]

Grooming is when you don’t tell people their preferences are subhuman and lesser than what most people do

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai-gif-14475294631445060178

[fresh flower]

That's not what we're discussing

[mystic bay]

Why is that grooming?

[quasi needle]

Sarcasm

[mystic bay]

Ok, so it's not grooming

[fresh flower]

You're talking about homosexuality

[quasi needle]

So why is it bad to say being gay is normal

[mystic bay]

Because it's not

[quasi needle]

Like over a thousand species have been documented to be gay

[fresh flower]

That's NOT what I'm talking about

[quasi needle]

You’re literally saying teaching kids being gay is normal is grooming and there’s not one world where you can say that’s because kids are impressionable because that’s just WRONG!

Or trans or whatever

Like what you want = grooming

[mystic bay]

The problem with the trans thing is that not even the adults who peddle it understand it

They can't even articulate it cogently

[quasi needle]

Who are “the adults”

[mystic bay]

Adults

What is the question

[quasi needle]

You’re probably referring to people online rather than teachers who are specifically trained on the topics?

Either that or the schools you went to were dogshit

[mystic bay]

If you want to get specific, I am referring to every adult I have ever heard try to articulate it

If you would like to make yourself an exception, I'll gladly give you a hearing

[fallow shard]

Same goes w trans

[fresh flower]

Not once did I say that

[quasi needle]

If you want to get specific, [least specific statement]

[quasi needle]

Sure

[fallow shard]

How does it exactly harm anyone if assumably male kid puts makeup

[mystic bay]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

If you want to give it a go

[quasi needle]

Sorry I’m not an adult nor am I trained to teach the subject. You can contact my old physics teacher who was the department head for that stuff 😊

I am discussing the education system not random people on the internet

[mystic bay]

So your school didn't teach you adequately?

[sterile fractal]

İm true savior

[quasi needle]

So if I pass my a level mathematics I can become an a level teacher

That’s brightened my future outlook

Thank you

[fresh flower]

But I literally didn't, I think I said "Gender" 10 times, that's why I've repeatedly said that you guys are talking about homosexuality

[mystic bay]

No, but you should be able to instruct someone in the rudiments of mathematics, to say the least

[quasi needle]

Good thing I appended trans under that

[mystic bay]

I am asking for an intelligible articulation, not expertise

I trust an A level student can muster that

[quasi needle]

Yes, so the rudiments of transgender identity is that it is a sociological and psychological understanding of gender as distinct from biological sex

[fresh flower]

Yes that's fine too, you should kids that it's fine to be trans, but from the age of 7?

[mystic bay]

Right. But nothing about that entails that an adult human male can count as a 'woman'.

[quasi needle]

Do yon thing 7 year olds are brain dead or

[fresh flower]

They start learning English at that age, isn't it a little too early to have them confused about genders

[vagrant swan]

@trail jolt

[fresh flower]

The opposite, they're too impressionable, that's why I say that it's grooming

[vagrant swan]

it only works in general

[trim veldt]

Does anybody know what hypnagogic hallucinations are and how they can be treated?

[quasi needle]

I literally had this debate with you before. You refused to accept the dictionary definition of “woman”.

Woman is the sociological identity. Female is the biological identity.

[mystic bay]

What was the definition of 'woman' you offered?

[quasi needle]

My dinner is ready bro

[fresh flower]

Woman and female meant the same thing up until like 10 years ago btw

[quasi needle]

Do I have to keep going

[mystic bay]

No one's twisting your arm

It's your choice at every step of the way

[trim veldt]

Does anybody know what hypnagogic hallucinations are and how they can be treated?

[quasi needle]

Oooo I was wrong

I guess you can use female for the sociological identity too

an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been considered to have a different sex at birth:

Cambridge dictionary

[mystic bay]

That's the first entry, is it?

[quasi needle]

Because words can’t have multiple meanings

an adult female human being:

[mystic bay]

I'll take that as a no

[mystic bay]

. . . Which would exclude so-called trans women

[quasi needle]

Hmm… now if we take our eyes to the very next line…

[mystic bay]

You do understand that a dictionary is not a rulebook, don't you?

[quasi needle]

Beautiful words reach our eyes

[quasi needle]

Yeah but I just don’t care about that

Dictionaries add definitions that are used

So like yeah

The word also means that

[mystic bay]

But that has nothing to do with the reality

No one is denying that people may use the word in that way

It's just besides the point

[quasi needle]

The reality is the word is used consistently in that context and means that

Words are defined by how they’re used

You can’t apply your arbitrary definition and reject the other if a billion people use it the other way

[mystic bay]

There's nothing arbitrary about it

[quasi needle]

Sure bro

[mystic bay]

There is absolutely nothing about a dictionary that settles the matter one way or another

[shell hemlock]

Based 7 year olds watch toy unboxing videos

[quasi needle]

Riiiight

It’s not arbitrary but neither is the dictionary a rulebook

[quasi needle]

Uh yeah it does

It reflects usage

[fresh flower]

Old enough to confuse them about their gender according to some here in Sweden

[quasi needle]

And usage defines words

[mystic bay]

But no one is disputing the usage

What is at issue with the reality

[shell hemlock]

SAVED AND PEAK AND BASED AND FIRE

[quasi needle]

Someone says “that’s cap” and you shout from across the street “NO!! CAP MEANS HAT!! NOT LIE!!”

[noble tundra]

Dude what's your major

[mystic bay]

You can use the 'woman' to refer to someone who identifies as female, regardless of what the sex happens to be. Nevertheless, if a person who is not female identifies as female, that person is deluded by definition. No lexical entry changes that.

[shell hemlock]

No such thing would happen here in Cambodia, based country L Thighland

[fallow shard]

Yes

[quasi needle]

Because you define female as purely biological, you assume your own conclusion

[fresh flower]

It will one day if you let your country be modeled after Western libs ideology

[fresh flower]

Insane take

[mystic bay]

Yes, female is a biological class.

[shell hemlock]

WE WILL NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN

[quasi needle]

Because sociology doesn’t exist

Riiiiight

[fresh flower]

TAKBIR

[quasi needle]

Words CANNOT have multiple meanings.

[mystic bay]

Sociology is indeed bunk, but that is really besides the point

[quasi needle]

It’s ILLEGAL

[shell hemlock]

STAY STRONG MY HIGH SPIRITED CAMBODIAN WARRIORS

[quasi needle]

Okay I can now dismiss you

[fresh flower]

Sociology has done more harm than good to gays

[mystic bay]

So let's say that someone identifies as a woman, but does not identify as female. Such a person would not qualify as a woman, on your definition. Is that the result you want?

@quasi needle

[fresh flower]

The only solution is dividing women between real and trans

[mystic bay]

Is he gone?

[noble tundra]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[quasi needle]

IM EATING!!!!

Good grief

[quasi needle]

It says someone who lives and identifies

[shell hemlock]

I want to know guys does anyone here collect Hotwheels

[noble tundra]

Hope u Choke

[quasi needle]

If some trans guy is just saying they’re a guy but changes nothing then no I don’t care

[noble tundra]

I was too poor for that
They were cool asf tho

[fresh flower]

Another (Apparently insane) take but I don't think you can be simultaneously feminist and pro-trans

[shell hemlock]

I used to lie to this guy in middle school that I got him Hotwheels from the US cuz my cousin is American but they were just toy cars I bought across the street from my school (they were $1 each)

[mystic bay]

See, here is the trajectory of this thing: the only way of getting every so-called trans woman to turn out as a woman is to define woman as anyone who identifies as a woman. As critics rightly point out, this is patently circular and unintelligible. So they instead offer the definition Owen gave: to be a woman is to identify as female. But this just shifts the lump in the rug. As I pointed out, if you identify as a female, and yet are male, you are mistaken by definition, and dictionaries are powerless to change that. What's more, it doesn't actually capture all trans women, since a person might see fit to identify as a woman and yet not identify as female.

[noble tundra]

Holy flex

[shell hemlock]

I would even go to the mall where there were actual Hotwheels and I took pictures of it to send to him and asked which one he wanted 😭

[mystic bay]

The dilemma for the trans apologist is this: the only way of getting the result of all trans women actually being women is through a circular definition, which renders womanhood unintelligible. If you try to remove the circularity, you are left with a definition that doesn't capture all trans women.

[quasi needle]

Again… assuming your own conclusion by defining the definitions likely biological . You reject sociology, I don’t

We’re not agreeing on that. Now let me eat in peace

[mystic bay]

You haven't told me what a 'sociological female' is

[quasi needle]

Your argument works because you refuse alternative definitions by how they’re used (which is how words are defined). I choose to define words based on how they’re used (which is how words are defined)

[noble tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/bigyahu-bigyahucalling-big-yahu-big-yahu-calling-bibi-gif-7107830166883974193

[mystic bay]

You just keep shifting the lump in the rug, and you know it as well as I

[quasi needle]

The roles/behaviors/expectations/identities that society assigns to women

[fallow shard]

Lowk fuck the gender stuff, just let people do whatever the fuck they want without labelling them as something