🧠｜serious-chat

[manic juniper]

Like Mitsotakis being more evil thanks to being educated in USA

[muted pecan]

you have no fucking idea how polish education system works do you

[turbid dome]

Me in a normal conversation: “nobody even knows what a dog is anymore believe me, they used to call it a canine”

[manic juniper]

Or literally all Swedish speaking politicians in Finland because they are Swedish

[fresh flower]

Clearly not well enough if you're the best of what it produced

[muted pecan]

you could have googled it even lmao

[fresh flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312583644111573106/1470868098801205520/convert.gif

[manic juniper]

Average Italian

[quasi needle]

My hatred comes from the consultancy class that plagues the center left. At least right wingers have THINGS to campaign on. Western liberal politicians are the most spineless pathetic people on Earth. I equate those that go for a political degree as those who retort a strict script when pressed by the opposition or media

[sweet wolf]

Because of him I use "many such cases" a lot more often

[quasi needle]

Same lol

I say it and my friends are always confused

[sweet wolf]

Wtf

Did attaching media get removed

[turbid dome]

Yeah pretty much the consultancy class reigns supreme, it’s a really disgusting thing which is why I’m trying to stay in a very specific lane away from electoralism

[quasi needle]

Mamdani is the western hemisphere’s only major saving grace

[turbid dome]

He’s backed by a major consulting firm btw

[sweet wolf]

Oh nvm my wifi was shitting itself

[turbid dome]

Curated personality

Fight agency

[fresh flower]

This why libs keep losing

[quasi needle]

Yes but he’s distinctly separate from the consultant class

[manic juniper]

Where is the translate button

[fresh flower]

EVERYONE is a libs enemy

[slate shadow]

lmao

[turbid dome]

https://www.fight.agency/

democrat shill class

[sweet wolf]

Language barrier be damned

[quasi needle]

He’s distinctly separate

[turbid dome]

He’s just got a more slick consulting firm who knows how to make people appear working class

[quasi needle]

And he’s actually likable

FETTERMAN

[turbid dome]

Or rather fighters for the working class

[manic juniper]

Next step will be having a government backdoor in Minecraft versions sold in EU
https://cyberinsider.com/eu-calls-vpns-a-loophole-that-needs-closing-in-age-verification-push/

[quasi needle]

Maybe Brexit was a good idea after all

We’ll be banning VPNs by next anyways it’s pointless tbh

[manic juniper]

They have much worse systems in place already

[high rapids]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRsBrsfG/

[quasi needle]

The UK government giving vagueposts by saying “we’ll be investigating the effects it has” (leaving the option of banning it open)

[turbid dome]

EU framework is terribly neoliberal, major issue with brexit was a weird panic over sovereignty but would’ve been good if they executed it with some coherent plan

[fresh flower]

Discordia about to die

[quasi needle]

A coherent plan would’ve been CANZUK

The average support across all potential countries of a CANZUK union is like 75%

[manic juniper]

Whatever the UK has for age verification is worse than the EU and they already have it

[quasi needle]

It’s insanely popular

Brits just see anglopshere and drool

[manic juniper]

Doesn't it include USA

[quasi needle]

They don’t actually care about “sovereignty” they care about britishism

[quasi needle]

No

Well the anglopshere does but CANZUK doesn’t

[manic juniper]

USA is more anglo than NZ culturally

[turbid dome]

Ok my discord somehow half crashed

[fresh flower]

Discordia is now closed for maintenance

[manic juniper]

Probably more than Canada as well

[quasi needle]

CANZUK is the closest thing to a unified anglosphere

It’s not like the US is unifying anything

[fresh flower]

@sweet wolf Are you still here

[rain lava]

Goodbye discordia

[quasi needle]

But still part of the anglosphere

The anglosphere is UK, Ireland, Canada, USA, Australia and NZ

[manic juniper]

How does it feel to share it with the Francosphere

[quasi needle]

That’s the worst part of Canada

[fresh flower]

Servers are literally dying bro

[turbid dome]

Best*

[rain lava]

I blame it on nobu

[quasi needle]

That’d be British Columbia

[turbid dome]

Because it has British in the name?

[fresh flower]

If you close discordia it prolly won't open again

[manic juniper]

Because of the British now Canada is worse than France

[quasi needle]

Pacific Northwest

[manic juniper]

At least France has road signs with "stop" instead of "arrêt"

[quasi needle]

Facts

[turbid dome]

Ontario #1 (I slept on an airport floor there because I got stuck during Covid)

[manic juniper]

Is it true that you guys already have age verification with the face recognition thing

[quasi needle]

Very true

It thought I was an adult so I’m good

[manic juniper]

Now I need to carry a pic of Captain Qwark with me all the times

[quasi needle]

#FuckMyPrivacy

My car has a camera that controls emergency braking and lane assist and stuff so it probably records me anyways

[manic juniper]

If one day you will be involved in a disastrous road accident the car will be able to describe your appearance to the doctors who are reconstructing your face

[weary moss]

rip homie

next software update ur cooked

[quasi needle]

Thank god

I have 4 cameras in my car

[sweet wolf]

Hi

[quasi needle]

Full 3d reconstruction

[sweet wolf]

Discord is shitting itself, you facing it too?

[manic juniper]

Now you only need a probe to not leave out the interiors

[fresh flower]

It's fixed now bro, I called discord ceo

[weary moss]

your personality will be saved in an .md file for LLMs and then you're back

[high rapids]

bro you´re 16

[sweet wolf]

Gifs aren't loading, for a minute it didn't show anyone's roles and I couldn't attach media

[fresh flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1430839706207260744/1474881782926020649/attachment.gif

It works now

[quasi needle]

The fuck is up with these group chat discord servers

[manic juniper]

What's the fourth pfp on the call

[quasi needle]

Whimper

[fresh flower]

Legs

[quasi needle]

I’m a GROWN ADULT in 2 months thank you

I will be getting battered on the day

[manic juniper]

Why does it look like she self harmed

[quasi needle]

She did

[manic juniper]

Perhaps because she did

[quasi needle]

It’s a corny discord server

They all do it

I-I broke our promise >~<

[fresh flower]

It's edgy bro lots of kids to weird stuff now

[quasi needle]

They don’t even do it cause they’re depressed

[fresh flower]

You tell them you used to sniff glue and they look at you like YOU'RE the idiot

[quasi needle]

They do it cause they’re fucked up

It’s TikTok I’m telling you

The difference between the people on Instagram and TikTok is STARK

TikTok comments are BRAIN DEAD

[manic juniper]

Tbh seems like things improved, when there were self harmers in my teens they weren't larpers

[fresh flower]

Insta taught me a lot of racism

[manic juniper]

Now I hardly hear about it

[fresh flower]

I had to delete my account tho my feed kept reverting to corn even though I just interacted with Bosnian real estate, Chinese memes and Turk propaganda

[manic juniper]

And unfortunately or fortunately the drinking and smoking culture is dying out

[quasi needle]

Genuinely saw a thread of fucking dipshits on TikTok arguing about there being a King of France and a King of Paris because this TikTok account is called Prince of Paris

Why are these people allowed to vote

[manic juniper]

The next Hitler will be someone addicted to social media

[urban swift]

Put them on test, crash that car

[quasi needle]

Is discord breaking

My images aren’t sending

[quasi needle]

It’ll be a groyper

Comment, 9013 likes
Why is he prince of only Paris and not the whole France?

Reply, 948 LIKES
Its just like medieval times (i asume) where the king of the whole country gave his most trusted people a piece of his land to manage as he couldnt do it himself. Now i think he isnt managing the city but hes just the prince

IDIOT!

[weary moss]

what the helly

[sweet wolf]

Call them again

[fervent oxide]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TBLsH9SjUyU?si=3U3WNB3aNTGGNGMP

“If you threat Americans, you will be blown up”

This is the position of the United States of America

[misty cove]

Mr Beast

[glass nexus]

idk abt business

[fresh flower]

Hop on bf6 bro we need a fourth 💔😞

[shy summit]

Mhm suuuuure buddy…. You realize that if you torch one of those oil ships it’s like guaranteed setting your economy on fire right?

That threat is a paper tiger

[fervent oxide]

Blow everything up and force them to compromise that you will never have to worry about it

[shy summit]

Are you this stupid?

Seriously

Even you must realize the real reasons why the admin thinks they need this war

1

Israel told trump to do it

2

They want to control the flow of oil

Blowing up the straight destroys the whole reason for being there

[fervent oxide]

Your own claim from the white house quite says the opposite

According to the white house, this is a military campaign aimed to achieve a regime change against Iran

To protect American’s interest

[shy summit]

Also.

This behavior from trump is impeachable. Here’s Senator Mark Kelly explaining his experience.

[shy summit]

The same White House which constantly lies to the American public even which video footage literally proves them wrong.

They have proven themselves an untrustworthy source.

[fervent oxide]

The white house is the supreme authority, representing the nation of the USA

[shy summit]

No

It is not

That’s not how it works.

Go reread the constitution and federal statues.

[fervent oxide]

Your own claim is based on complete rejection against the claim by government of your own

[shy summit]

Who has the power to declare war, break or create treaties and set policy.

Hint. It is not the White House.

[fervent oxide]

That’s the congress, but the president represent the state

[shy summit]

No.

He represents, The Executive

Not, “the state”

[fervent oxide]

He’s the symbolic person of the state

[shy summit]

The state is a three pronged breast. One bearing three heads

[fervent oxide]

The president, you know what president means

[shy summit]

He enforces policy, he does not create it.

[fervent oxide]

It means no other individual’s power is above him, in your country

[shy summit]

Incorrect

[fervent oxide]

He could create executive order to implement some policy made by himself

[shy summit]

With extreme limitations

And only under temporary conditions

Watch the video, it explains how trump violated the constitution which by law renders him unfit to serve.

[fervent oxide]

and he can launch a military campaign out of the USA by his presidential power

[shy summit]

No

He can only deploy for 30 days

[fervent oxide]

without approval of the congress

[fervent oxide]

30 days is actually after this war has been started

[shy summit]

The fact that he and his admin keep calling it a war opens them up to criminal prosecution

[fervent oxide]

also this fuel crisis isn't only affecting America, it is affecting more to other countries, and you could use it as a leverage to gain some significant interest

[muted pecan]

is it working now

[fervent oxide]

bingo, the fear to be intimidated of an ongoing energy cut off is in effect, typical classic realism

[muted pecan]

yes, nice

[fervent oxide]

it is not a war, yet

[shy summit]

You have a very liberal and retarded interpretation of ‘interest’

[fervent oxide]

national interest, to be specifically

[shy summit]

The national interest is solving the cost crisis.

[shy summit]

The national interest is decreasing the housing crisis

[fervent oxide]

not quite, the national interest is actually achieve self-independence

[shy summit]

The national interest is securing our country against another viral outbreak

Interest is not whipping your dick out and seeing that it’s bigger than the other guy’s

It’s what’s in the interest of the people.

[fervent oxide]

that's people's interest, not national interest

[shy summit]

Hey. Dipshit. What kind of government is America

Democracy.

Run by and for the people.

The people’s interest IS the nation’s interest.

[fervent oxide]

there is the social class in America, and people is divided in several classes

your people's interest only represent poor people and some middle class of people

that is a contradiction to the interest of the rich and the billionaires

that is only considered, the interest of the poor

not the general concept of people

[fervent oxide]

the people who made the policy, who implement the policy, are all rich guys supported by billionaires

they represent the country, they are the guy who were in charge

[fresh flower]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[fervent oxide]

even if you are a constitutional republic

[fresh flower]

Good one bro

[shy summit]

You’re actually a fucking retard.

Not you @fresh flower

[fervent oxide]

I'm demonstrating a fair point

and that is true

[shy summit]

I dunno why I even bother gracing this dipshit with a reply when he clearly has no fucking idea what he’s talking about.

[fresh flower]

Insult him in Chinese

[muted pecan]

yeah i was wondering when you'll figure out he has a humiliation kink or something

[shy summit]

Yeah

Probably

[manic juniper]

Why the closer I get to the 256th galaxy the more political the names get

[muted pecan]

i just saw a young priest on facebook saying that lgbt is not people, its a harmfull ideology trying to depopulate earth and enslave people, because "its easier to rule over dumb and small society"

its easier to rule over dumb, uneducated people huh, don't you say lmao

[turbid dome]

Coming from a priest 😭😭😭

[fresh flower]

Besides the "not people", he's not wrong

[muted pecan]

i asked if he shouldnt be kinda forced to respect every god's child on earth, love your neighbour and all

"respect people sure, but not a devilish ideology that came from hell leads to hell and despises god, its in catholics nature to eradicate the natural corruption"

lmao what

fuck your neighbour i guess

[fresh flower]

Do gay atheists not understand that the LGBT community is in fact an ideology

Is it that complicated

[muted pecan]

you do understand that ideology aint a bad thing on its own right

anti-communism is also an ideology

do you like love comminism or something, i dont think so

remember that its only kinda fine on paper

[fresh flower]

It's not, I agree, but he's free to choose if he supports it or not based on his own values

You can't force people to accept your ideology

What's next? We normalise nazism?

[muted pecan]

sure, he's not free to just spit random bullshit to make a group of people look worse

[fervent oxide]

idk how it is hard to understand for you the fact that your country is controlled by capitalists

[shy summit]

Cope harder man

[fresh flower]

Based on his own values and morals they are worse, and it's not "bullshit" just because you disagree with it, that's no different than people saying that several genders don't exist

[muted pecan]

it is the definition of bullshit since he lied numerous times also in comments when i asked more questions, also as a christian PRIEST he is NOT allowed to do that even to nazis

personally, i think catholics should be able to say whatever they want about this kind of people-like creatures tho

[fresh flower]

What's the lie though

[fervent oxide]

it is not a cope, it is a FACT

the fact is, you can't find a street broke ass in the congress

[wary oak]

Hes not wrong, the us is run by oligarch billionaires wtf kinda take is that its run by the people

[fresh flower]

According to a Catholic gays would/should be:

• Deranged
• Corrupt
• Evil

None of those are lies from his POV

[wary oak]

the donors get their way

Trumps biggest donor is a pro israel apac like plz

[muted pecan]

you seriously think that everyone is just gonna convert to being gay and will reach the goal of depopulation

are you saying that with enough amount of gay corn you could suck men?

[wary oak]

And solving inflation, the chinese dude isnt wrong, thats largely a genz / young peoples thing

Old people want other shit hence why nothing ever changes

[fresh flower]

That's as plausible as someone claiming they were born gay, that scenario is entirely possible and plausible if you subscribe to Catholic values

[muted pecan]

you fr right now man?

[wary oak]

The catholic church supports lgbtq marriage

and the pope said slay

[muted pecan]

this is amazing

[fresh flower]

You both have the same argument:
You: If we normalise the LGBT then more gays will be comfortable with coming out
Him: If we let the corrupt LGBT spread then more gays will spawn

[fresh flower]

It shouldn't

[muted pecan]

that was not what he said and i think you might be bi

have you ever considered that maybe

[wary oak]

But the pope does and he can change the script so

unfortunately the pope’s word means yall mfs gotta bow down and accept it

[fresh flower]

Karrin is unable to form a coherent thought without including a personal remark

[muted pecan]

im just making simple observations

[fresh flower]

I'm not religious. I said that it shouldn't have done that because you shouldn't cater to something you disagree with

This is why I think that Catholics are cowards

[wary oak]

But there are other denominations of Christianity outside of the catholic church that dont

[muted pecan]

also even sodoma and gomora was about r@pe, not homosexuality. And technically, bible only says anything about gay men, so lesbians are completly fine

[wary oak]

Because the Pope ordained something?

Which is genuinely disputable based on the scripture

which is hard to decipher since its 500000 years old

Times are a’ changin’ baby

[high rapids]

Are you gay

[fresh flower]

Not only that but also for "Changing with the times" and modernising/alternating their values to cater to modern takes, like LGBT and abortion

[wary oak]

No

[wary oak]

So what

Religions can change, who says they should stay in the stone age

Back in the day kings would change the religion to whatever they wanted

[fresh flower]

Sola Scriptura says that

[wary oak]

now its a bad thing apparently cause its too new

[manic juniper]

Not anymore

[wary oak]

Google says thats a protestant document

protestants arent catholics

[fresh flower]

What makes it a good thing?

[muted pecan]

bible doesnt say anything about abortions tho, its referenced once when bible describes a priest making some kind of water supposed to "make her womb swell"

[wary oak]

It’s progressive

[muted pecan]

and gives to a woman ofc

[wary oak]

progressivism is fundamentally good

[muted pecan]

soooo there is a tutorial

[manic juniper]

It says one thing about lesbians but it's up to interpretation

[muted pecan]

what fragment, i didnt saw that i think

[wary oak]

Anyways guys im really hyped about the new virus

Hopefully we get a covid19 esque job market again

[fresh flower]

An ideology being "progressive" (For you) does not make it inherently good (Unless it's just for you)

[muted pecan]

true, lets go back to bronze age

[manic juniper]

Somewhere in Romans it condemns "relationships against nature" but it doesn't specify what exactly, it just mentions women in it. It could refer to a different type of intercourse

[fresh flower]

This is no different than Islamists saying that the Quran is progressive

[wary oak]

The quaran hasnt had any progressive additions bruh

[fresh flower]

Except it did, to the Torah and the Bible, so for them it's progressive

[manic juniper]

Gay marriages were legal in copper age Mesopotamia

[high rapids]

why are you guys still awake

[manic juniper]

I woke up not long ago

[fresh flower]

Not catering to gays does not mean "Going back to the bronze age"

Not everything revolves around the LGBT

[wary oak]

True

[muted pecan]

soooo lets take back right from black people then

[wary oak]

The greeks and the romans

They didnt call u gay they called u a bottom

[fresh flower]

What's this guy even on about

[muted pecan]

and women in general

that was once considered progressive

society also didnt really liked those too

[fresh flower]

Genuinely funny how atheists think they're different from religious people when they both try to force their ideology

[high rapids]

I know I know Good Morning

[manic juniper]

The 1992 Danish sci-fi film has themes about this

[muted pecan]

basic human rights aint an ideology tho

[manic juniper]

Is it 00:38 there

[fresh flower]

Best movie they ever made

[manic juniper]

A film where gays and misogynists find common ground

[fresh flower]

You're conflating accepting gays with normalising the LGBT ideology

[wary oak]

Many gays are misogynistic

Trust me i know

i have met a lot who are

[manic juniper]

Yes I think most of them are

[wary oak]

Maybe not most but idk

[fresh flower]

Usually only if they're men, they hate women because they steal a potential mate from them

[muted pecan]

youre the one talking about "Not catering to gays" tho and how something progressive might not be that good

[fresh flower]

There's also a schism between gay men and lesbians

[muted pecan]

how

[manic juniper]

It's common to develop hate towards things you know well or don't know at all

[muted pecan]

you think that woman could have a chance with gay men?

[wary oak]

No

LOL what is that question

Maybe if theyre christian baptist gay men

[high rapids]

I keep a safe distance from people who are full of hatred

[manic juniper]

He means that they steal other men from women

[manic juniper]

Gossip is poison

[fresh flower]

"They can be gay if they want" is not the same as "I support and promote their political and social positions such as gender self-identification, changing traditional definitions of marriage and gender roles, and activism around representation and education", one is gays as a people, the other is an ideology

[high rapids]

That´s true

[muted pecan]

if you dont believe that trans women are women then no, you're not fine with it at all, the idea is to accept people and dont force them to be how you want them to be because you shouldn't give a fuck

also i dont see whats wrong with education on this, its wrong to teach kids people like this exist and don't deserve to wish them death?

[fresh flower]

This is literally no different than their rhetoric, "If you don't think like me then you're evil and wrong"

[muted pecan]

i don't like my upstairs neighbour, im not gonna argue that he's less of a human and doesnt deserve to get the same treatment as the rest of us

[fresh flower]

It's wrong to indoctrinate your children to your ideology, regardless if it's as ISIS soldiers, hardcore Zionists, or gender-benders

[muted pecan]

how is that any kind of indoctrination

[fresh flower]

What's the difference between a Wahhabi brainwashing their child into believing Jews are pigs, and an LGBT parent brainwashing their son/daughter/it into becoming gay

For you one is good

For me both are bad

[muted pecan]

its literally impossible to being brainwashed into being gay. If those kind of things was possible, gay people wouldn't exist since they would be brainwashed into "traditional" values from birth

[wet flax]

false, some studies proves that a kid has more chance to turn gay if he is exposed to homosexuals more than others

[fresh flower]

That's objectively false, if you normalise something for a child then it's certainly going to grow up to think in that way

[muted pecan]

also convertion therapy would work

[muted pecan]

you mean come out gay

[fresh flower]

And that's not exclusive to gays

[wet flax]

no, i mean turn gay.

[muted pecan]

that its normal, yes. It's not gonna magically turn anyone gay. You can think that something is normal without instantly starting to like it.

[fresh flower]

If I indoctrinate my future children into thinking that Danish "people" are evil do you think they'll see them as good people when they grow up in a society that accepts that Danish "people" should be hated

[fresh flower]

What's exactly normal about indoctrination?

[muted pecan]

do you seriously dont see a dofference between sexual orientation and beliefs

[fresh flower]

I do, but I think this is the third time I say that you're conflating accepting gays as people with promoting their ideology

[muted pecan]

you seriously can't read and make informed assumptions or what

ok it was definetly interesting, youre getting slow tho

and you go in circles

[fresh flower]

"It's normal to indoctrinate your children because they might not turn out gay"?

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-gif-13127800

[muted pecan]

interesting take

[fresh flower]

This is like the 4th time you resort to personal insults when you run out of logical arguments

[muted pecan]

sure man

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/khamenei-crying-meme-when-the-wont-shut-up-when-the-gif-12329650965403193875

[muted pecan]

same time tomorrow?

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/رهبر-آقا-رهبری-خامنه-ای-فرمانده-کل-قوا-gif-16371073303613428780

[manic juniper]

Shouldn't we remove straight propaganda as well

Or at least increase asexual propaganda since there is enough straight and gay propaganda out there

[fresh flower]

Yes

[fresh flower]

No

Propaganda is propaganda, it doesn't matter if you're gay

[fresh flower]

No point bro, you can't hold a civil discussion with someone who disagrees with you

It's a sign of low intelligence

[manic juniper]

Shouldn't you focus on straights then, they won the propaganda war while gays are underdogs

It's straights that own the economies and religions

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-gif-9175862889036779404

Wym "you"

[manic juniper]

The anti-propaganda guy

[fresh flower]

I was just explaining to Karrin how his ideology is no different from religious rhetoric

[manic juniper]

She's not wrong tho Catholics didn't even condemn Nazis that much when they were in power

[muted pecan]

you'll still come back tomorrow to this tho

[manic juniper]

They are programmed to not hate anything or at least they claim to be but it's not true, I have seen a priest squash a shield bug in front of me in 2019

I still remember it and it opened my eyes

[fresh flower]

That's only true if you think pope Pius XI didn't exist

[fresh flower]

Another sign of low intelligence is surrounding yourself only with people who agree with you

[manic juniper]

I don't think he did much compared to their actions

But then could be simply because the Holocaust wasn't in full motion yet

[fresh flower]

I mean he did what he could as a pope, he criticized it and the church distributed material that worked against it, it's not like Catholic clergy wasn't persecuted either

This is pretty much what they do, or should do, with the LGBT ideology

[manic juniper]

Did he? He probably could have risked way more as the Pope. Also no the clergy was persecuted under Hitler perhaps, Italy gave power back to Vatican City with the Patti Lateranensi

Nothing says persecuted like restoring the literal country that it deposed few decades earlier

[fresh flower]

He did, and they had their own VIP section in Dachau for it, what else could the pope do? It's not like he could spawn God and stop it

[fervent oxide]

the pope, how many troops he have - Joseph Stalin

[fresh flower]

Around 1000 of them died in Dachau, idk if it's a good idea to play numbers when it comes to persecution

[manic juniper]

He's the head of the largest branch of Christianity, killing him would cause a lot of outrage. And isn't Dachau in Germany

1000 doesn't seem that many, was it just Italian clergy or German, or both

And when did it happen, did it happen when Italy was under German occupation? Because this changes a lot

[manic juniper]

He used to have many troops, now he only has a bunch of guys in funny dresses

[fresh flower]

Neither, they were mostly Polish clergy

[manic juniper]

That's completely different then

[fresh flower]

How though

[manic juniper]

I'm talking about Italy since he even supervised the pact I mentioned earlier, literal pact between fascists and the Catholic Church to regain some political power

[manic juniper]

He didn't risk persecution from Germany because Italy was still independent

Mussolini didn't even deport all Jews to Germany let alone the Catholic priests

Killing Polish people is also the second most Nazi thing ever, it's quite expected. Catholics were somewhat persecuted in Germany as well but not Italy for sure

[fresh flower]

That doesn't mean that the church fully agreed with fascism, they were granted autonamy and independence and the fascists used that as legitimacy

How's the blame on the Catholics

This is a Martini take

[fervent oxide]

idk why would they do it in the first place while their factories are facing a serious lack of labor problem

it is like fuck themselves, literally

[manic juniper]

He could have not sided with fascists and nothing would have changed, they wouldn't have been destroyed or anything

[manic juniper]

They didn't do much in Italy when they had plenty of room to

[fresh flower]

"Fascism" isn't "If they disagree with me I will treat them well" though

[fresh flower]

They chose independence instead of dying/persecution

[fervent oxide]

there's no tolerance to disagreements to authority in national socialism

not only fascism

[fresh flower]

See even Minecraft gets it

[manic juniper]

They weren't risking death or persecution by then, 7 years between Mussolini coming to power and those pacts

[manic juniper]

He's the Pope, it'd be like Hamas killing the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, it would cause outrage amongst Palestinians

[fresh flower]

What's your point though, they shouldn't have accepted independence because...?

[fervent oxide]

Israeli... arabs...

[manic juniper]

My point is that they had plenty of room to operate without risks, I already said it. The autonomy thing is just proof that they weren't really against fascism that much either, they prioritised politics over spiritual integrity

[fresh flower]

How's that not against facism when they opposed parts of fascist ideology that didn't agree with the church's teachings and resisted state control over religion, which is what fascists want

They just negotiated to protect its independence instead of being absorbed by the regime, which is an objectively good thing and doesn't mean they sided with fascists or didn't do enough

[fervent oxide]

fascism is bad only because they lose the war against allies

communism is bad because Soviet Union finally collapsed

it doesn't really represent the whole ideology would have a huge fatal issue

it is just the way they implement it is wrong or either they dismissed the idea

Hitler lose because he use fascism but only for including a very few amount of people, the pure Germanic people, this basically exclude the possibility of recruiting soldiers from other minorities, use them to generate economic output, also intimidation and killings caused huge social and economy disruption

Soviet Union collapse, well they simply found themselves too corrupt under few corrupted regime and they give it up

[manic juniper]

Mussolini disagreed with Hitler as well

[fervent oxide]

it is actually fuck your own war capacity and economy to use some extremely racist theory to exterminate the people in the country, it is useful and it kind of worked to convince people to provide justification for wars, but that is just a part

[manic juniper]

It's not really that big of a risk to say "yeah uh Italy should not follow Germany's path" as the literal Pope

[manic juniper]

What about Italy, they wanted to welcome Albanians into fascism and they were educating them on it

[fervent oxide]

they wouldn't have an army that could retain Albania in the first place if they weren't fascist

they had some nice policy but their implementation is too lame

Mussolini's regime isn't a full takeover, it is a coup, it was appointed, it has compromise to high ranks

Hitler's regime is a full takeover, there is a huge difference

regime is always the core foundation of a country, regime comprises people, and the power is born because one there is the actual force which is through intimidation, and the other path is to transfer interests

so basically if you want to be in charge of a country, whatever its institution, constitution, law etc. you need support from a powerful group that would back you for their interest

for Mussolini, he was supported by landowners, capitalists, usually upper class, and kings are actually neutral or a little bit favor to him

[fresh flower]

But that's what they did?

They opposed totalitarianism, racism, and state interference in religion, you're saying they should've directly confronted Mussolini and his fascist regime

What would that lead to besides crackdowns

[fervent oxide]

Hitler was mostly supported by the radical proletariants, upper class, middle class, almost everybody besides socialists and communists would support Hitler at that time

because Germany suffered greatly after WW1 and with the treaty of Versailles, people are expecting a new powerful leadership to abolish it

that's how Nazi party could cheat through this, and they were supported by a lot more people than Mussolini

based on that, Hitler could actually implement more policy, or even which would target against some class of people, because there is the base of the support to do that

but for Mussolini, he can only do is to mobilize more poors, indoctrinate proletariants, he isn't dare to do something with his support base, capitalists

[fervent oxide]

so that's a core difference

how you would take regime and how much you have taken over without compromise, directly defines your power

[manic juniper]

By signing the treaty they pretty much legitimised fascist Italy, before then they were doing their own thing in the Holy See

[fervent oxide]

if you are compromised too much, you will have a dead administration, if you don't compromise at all, it is extremely hard or not possible for you to be in charge in the first place

it is same thing why KMT have failed their land reform because landowners opposed it, and they are in charge because of landowners' support

but communists are successful, it is absolutely the same thing, same project, but they can do that because they were supported by proletariants, farmers

[fresh flower]

No they didn't, the fascists used that as legitimacy, the church used it to protect and secure their people

That's not the same thing

It's like saying I helped a robber loot my house because I left it and chose my life, instead of directly confronting him

[fresh flower]

Minecraft wtf are you on about

Name 1 successful communist country

[mint parrot]

The only good thing about communist is their songs

[manic juniper]

Why did they wait seven years

[manic juniper]

Imagine that someone robbed my house and seven years later I think it's a bad thing

[fresh flower]

Because his regime wasn't strong enough, didn't it start off as a coalition government and not a full dictatorship? It's not like they immediately knew how bad Italy would get under his rule

It's not like Italy and the church were on good terms either, didn't they beef ever since like 1870 or 1880

It's not a communist country unless you ignore a massive issue with it

[wet flax]

it is politically and in administrative

only the economy has a capitalist way to develop

[fresh flower]

That it operates on a state-controlled capitalist system

[languid rock]

What up guys

What are you talking about

[fresh flower]

It's not communist if markets, private property, and profit-driven firms exist

[wet flax]

only for the economy 😭

china is communism politically, economically its capitalist

the real communism never was applied also btw

[fresh flower]

That doesn't matter, it's a capitalist system with a communist ruling party

You can't have your cake and eat it too

[wet flax]

you can cut your cake in two, it wont double it, it will remains the same cake

[fresh flower]

Son that doesn't work with definitions of ideologies 😭🙏🏻

[wet flax]

i mean it is the same country, if i made that cake and cut it in two im still the one that made that cake, as china is communist with a capitalist economy, dont play smart if ure dumb

like

its still china even if it 'split' the country, that's what i mean in general

its a communist country, nothing more

communism is not even real communism lmao

[fresh flower]

"It has several things that go against communism but it's still communism because that's just the silly economy, which communism definitely totally isn't completely based on"

How

Reminds me of my friend who says he isn't racist because he doesn't see the others as a human race to begin with

[turbid dome]

And it’s really only nominally communist at this point, CCP stands for Chinese capitalist party now

[turbid dome]

It’s exactly like communism if you ignore the lack of worker control over production, the state, money, private enterprise, billionaires, and only focus on the political system which is characterized by an autocratic government where workers have no input

[marsh saddle]

Guys anybody suggest a perfect movie? Im tired of getting high expectations and at the end I jus found out that it was overrated

[wet flax]

he's right tho..

[fresh flower]

We need to raze politics all together and start over from scratch, everyone has lost the plot of what things mean

No

Capitalism doesn’t require a fully free market to still be capitalism

Communism, in its core, requires abolishing private ownership of the means of production

[fresh flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287078773493207175/1465457044936196247/attachment.gif

[wet flax]

no, he is.

racism is a belief that must have the belief of 'multiple human races'

just ppl wants to change the original definition

he is xenophobe

[turbid dome]

That’s closer to socialism, communism has a lot more requirements but this is still one of them.

Socialism = socialized ownership of the means of production

Communism = socialism + various other societal requirements like lack of a state, money, etc.

Capitalism = private ownership of the means of production in combination with wage labor obtaining value through economic coercion.

Feudalism = feudal (in this case meaning land owned by the crown and managed by lords) ownership over the land worked by serfs, with overt coercion to obtain land rents.

[fervent oxide]

I would like the Chinese National Socialist Party

Not (nazi party)

And it was one

[fresh flower]

Uses a term
Ignores what it means by definition
"Using your strict definitions neither communism nor capitalism can exist in reality thus your whole point is nonsensically pointless"

Uhhh okay 👍🏻

[young kettle]

I want to discuss something with you guys

[wet flax]

as?

[young kettle]

I believe anyone can build anything, And I don't mean it metaphorically or figuratively.

I don’t see the Pyramids, the Eiffel Tower, or other such things as impossible or strange; what's unbelievable is that the ancients were able to build them with such primitive tools. I think it took them much longer than it would take us today, and that's not surprising at all.

And I don't mean any offense to anyone.

[wet flax]

i don't see the problem here ?

[unique bay]

Can I built an empire which can rival Rome

[young kettle]

Well that mean we are not different in the opinion

[young kettle]

If you have money and power I believe you can

[unique bay]

I mean would united nation allow me to build one?

[young kettle]

How can say the people in power right now can’t do it? I believe they can start it secretly

Maybe some of them started even years ago

[unique bay]

But I don't want it to be a secret, like I want to directly start wars with France, Spain, Germany, Balkan, Tunisia, Egypt and Iran

[young kettle]

Directly I don’t think it may be possible unless you have a really strong connection with so many countries

And you have to have reason

And sorry for my bad English

[unique bay]

Which countries to exact, and what if France use nukes on mee

[unique bay]

I wanna restore the Roman empire

[young kettle]

that what you will have to face if you started a war , and I don’t know what countries

But even though all if this you still can do it🤷🏻‍♀️

[unique bay]

Yeah no shit Sherlock I can definitely conquer them

[wet flax]

nothing is impossible

[young kettle]

[wet flax]

hitler won the elections, and won over europe in 4 years

[unique bay]

I ain't Hitler, I am kitler

[unique bay]

Yeah for sure

[wet flax]

don't have to be hitler, it's an exemple

you can restart the roman empire indeed

[unique bay]

[unique bay]

So how can I start give me the blueprint

[wet flax]

take with you people that have the same mindset, not difficult (mostly italian nationalists)

ally with trump, so he helps you military

[unique bay]

Ummm interesting what's next

[limpid night]

Hello

[wet flax]

make him think you're a puppet state to him

[unique bay]

Sup

[wet flax]

and at the peak moment do a 'tu quoque'

[limpid night]

Hru?

[unique bay]

I am good how ya doing

[unique bay]

Hold on where are you from?

[limpid night]

I'm fine too, what are you doing?

[wet flax]

france, why ?

[unique bay]

Nicee I am planning to restore the Roman empire

[unique bay]

Oh noo you are a gual

[limpid night]

Ah, okay then, I guess.

[wet flax]

a what

[unique bay]

Why would you help me restore roman empire

[unique bay]

You don't know that you are a gaul

[limpid night]

How old are you?

[wet flax]

why wouldn't i

[unique bay]

Wanna join me?

[wet flax]

actually im from algeria, i just moved in france in my young age

[unique bay]

67

[limpid night]

Well, I don't know.

[wet flax]

i just deny my algerian blood and curse it

[limpid night]

Six seven??

[unique bay]

Nicee, I want numedian cavalry

[unique bay]

Why?

[unique bay]

Yeah I am 67 years old

[wet flax]

i just dislike it

[limpid night]

Omg

Cool

[wet flax]

im mostly a french nationalist and traditionnalist, i want algeria to be french

[unique bay]

Wth, do you know France did to Algeria

Are you from Brazil?

[wet flax]

i do

[wet flax]

no?

[unique bay]

Not you bro

[wet flax]

be specific.

[unique bay]

Then why do you like France

And why you have a Russian flag in your bio

[wet flax]

why would i hate it ? because it killed people ? like almost the 196 countries in the UN ?

[unique bay]

And Greek in your username

[wet flax]

this, bc im greek orthodox

[wet flax]

russian glazer

[unique bay]

I mean they did kill
But France killed your people and destroyed your country

[wet flax]

false

the people, the country, was french

[languid mango]

True

[unique bay]

Ohh now I got it
You hate Algeria cuz it's a muslim country right?

[unique bay]

Yeah not shit sherlock you are right

[unique bay]

It wasn't

[wet flax]

no, false, algerian identity was like a legend back then, being algerian was being french, having french paper, french passport, as algeria was considered part of the hexagon.

unlike others colony as guadeloupe that was considered part of the colonial empire.

[wet flax]

probably i do

[languid mango]

Sure mate yk i ain't arguing with you i don't have energy for that
Well I'm myself an Algerian
Whatever i am ngl idc as long as i can survive

[wet flax]

no shit akenny, i know who you are dont play dumb

[unique bay]

Brother its was an occupation and it doesn't remove the native identity of the Algerians living there

[languid mango]

Ik who you are too Ruth ig

[wet flax]

what identity? except being berber, and others folk living there, there was not any algerian identity

it was part of the french country, it was not considered as a colony after 1830

[unique bay]

Are you out of your mind, Algeria is a modern Nation but the people living there aren't, they are native to their land and they are not french

[unique bay]

It doesn't matter, and it doesn't remove the native identity of Algerians

[wet flax]

algerian is also a modern term, only used after 1960

[manic juniper]

By that logic the French aren't French either because they aren't Franks

[wet flax]

are you stupid, im talking about nationality, not identity at the start, being french does not make you less berber, you could be occitan while being french its completely diferent.

Oman, as Alger or Constantine were divided into departments, in administrative speaking algeria was french and algerians WERE FRENCH IN PAPER, so what France did, its not to algerians but to it's own folk, french

[unique bay]

They are french cuz they're living in France as a citizen

[manic juniper]

Weren't Algerians considered French

[wet flax]

they were

[unique bay]

But that doesn't make France the owner of Algeria, it was occupied by it

[wet flax]

after 1848 the territory conquered were not considered colony but part of the mainland

exactly what Corsica is today

[manic juniper]

Berbers and Kabyle Jews too are occupied by Arabs

[wet flax]

algeria was not a country back then

it's also not occupation

[unique bay]

Ik but again that doesn't mean France can legally claim the region of Algeria

[wet flax]

by that logic even Paris is under occupation

[unique bay]

Colonization to be exact

[unique bay]

By who?

[wet flax]

different, Guadelupe was a colony, algeria a region of france, being born in guadelupe was being guadelupean, while algeria was being french

[wet flax]

franks, the folk coming from north france/belgium/benelux

[unique bay]

In 21ce you don't call it occupation, it's a part of France

[wet flax]

during the XIX or the XX it was considered as part of mainland france

same as what corsica is nowadays, its the same thing

centuries also does not mean anything

are french from the franks ? is francia the territory of the franks ?

are germans french then ?

[unique bay]

That’s an oversimplification tho Algeria was illegally part of france but most muslim algerians didnt have the same rights as europeaans and people from guadeloupe were also french citizens for long perioids not just guadeloupean

[wet flax]

most muslim algerians didnt have the same rights as europeaans
they also were not considered algerians but ottomans.
from guadeloupe were also french citizens for long perioids not just guadeloupean
they had both nationalities after a time inside the island, while being born in Alger in 1900, had to make you french, 100%, that's all. nothing else to debate algerians were french as it was a french territory part of the mainland

nothing to be proud of being algerians also, its a curse

its egomaxxing there

[manic juniper]

Is it because you risk being remigrated along the other Algerians

[wet flax]

i don't think far right gonna win 2027, i also have the french nationality so i'm not getting deported, im not illegally in france

[manic juniper]

What about 2040 and later

It's always a risk

[wet flax]

i'm still french in paper, i have no risk

when Bardella talks abt algerians being deported its only the illegals.

[unique bay]

france calling Algeria part of france doesnt erase the fact that muslim Algerians were ruled unequally in their own landd coloniial powers always try to redefine occupied poeople however they want legally that doesnt suddenly erase slgerian identity by thaat logic every occupied people in history just stoppekd existing becausee an empire changed the paperwork,

[wet flax]

nationality != identity again.

algerians before 62 were french.

[manic juniper]

Occupied people often have no rights or their identities (whatever that means) will get erased quickly

[wet flax]

as it should be

[manic juniper]

Sometimes it's annoying

[wet flax]

while algerians had rights (less than parisian but still almost same right as a french citizen), some president embraced the culture

berbers are not even berbers nowadays lmao

their identity was erased and it's not cause of france

[manic juniper]

If they kept Algeria it'd be worse, most French people would feel like they are funding it for no actual gain just like Italy with the South

[manic juniper]

True

[unique bay]

And thats exaxctly the oversimplification france legally classified algeria as french terhritory but mvost mnuslim algerians were denied equalb political rights and treajted as colovnial subjects in practice they were french on vpaper doesnt erase that they saw themselves andb were treated aszlgerians

[wet flax]

mvost mnuslim algerians were denied
that's where you're wrong, since algerians as you call are not muslim but african pagan.

[manic juniper]

How

[wet flax]

islam erased their identity MORE than france did, and can't talk about ottomans trying to put them under a false caliph

[wet flax]

berbers were pagan

[manic juniper]

Like everybody but they quickly dropped their religion

[wet flax]

they had a lot of rites, that got erased after the romanization and moreover the islamisation

[wet flax]

when Zakiah exist it's not difficult.

[manic juniper]

What is Zakiah

Or who

[wet flax]

quranic rule of islam for pagans or stranger, its a tax that MUST to be paid or its wether being expulsed from the country and be banned, or being killed if they dont pay it, or convert

[manic juniper]

Zakat?

Isn't that a universal tax to donate to the poors

They have jyzia tax but that's for people of the book

Doesn't this mean pagans were cooked

[unique bay]

Pre islamic north sfrica absoglutely had indiggenous cultures and belisefs nobody denies thdat but identities evfolve everywhere through history rome gchanged themm islam changed them france tried to change them too tht still doesnt make frrench colonviavl ruleu any less colonial another culturef influenced thvem first isnt really a defegnse of occupation

[unique bay]

Oversimplification+propaganda

[wet flax]

quran 9.

[unique bay]

What?

[wet flax]

nah i meant the jizya mb wrong term

[wet flax]

it's in quran 9

[manic juniper]

Yes, I don't think it's used for pagans tho except maybe India

[unique bay]

So basically you are an insecure Algerian

[wet flax]

pagans, christians, jews, anything that were not muslim

[wet flax]

?

[unique bay]

Do you hate USA and Russia

[unique bay]

What does that mean

[manic juniper]

They just killed or expelled them, or forcefully converted

IF there were any. I doubt there were more than three pagans given how many centuries Christianity was there

[wet flax]

usa is hateable

[manic juniper]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Wasn't it mainly for dhimmis

I never heard of pagans living under Islam except in India and random Southeast Asian sultanates

[unique bay]

Lmaooooooo why do you have liberia flag in your bio with Russia lmaooooo

[manic juniper]

That's Ukraine

[wet flax]

it was for people that were not muslim in general

[unique bay]

Omg, I am talking about the flag next to the Russian one

[wet flax]

ottomans did it to most folk they invided

[manic juniper]

Ah, that's USA but I removed all stars except one

[manic juniper]

But it's unlikely any of them were pagan already

[unique bay]

Sorry but are you stupid
Lmaooo you don't even know American flag but you hate America

[wet flax]

pagans were not rare at that time

[manic juniper]

By the time the Ottomans set foot in Europe pagans were only left in Fennoscandia and northwest Russia

[manic juniper]

They were bro

[wet flax]

it just means he or she hates 49 states except 1

[wet flax]

not at all

[manic juniper]

By 1400 most of Europe had no pagans, and most of those left were unreachable by Ottomans

[wet flax]

bro 1400 cmon

i talk abt 600 or 700

[unique bay]

Maybe but lmaoo it's liberian flag a country in Africa

[manic juniper]

Far from the Ottomans

Even the first Turks who took parts of the Roman Empire only conquered Christians

[wet flax]

islam conquest no

[manic juniper]

It was Christian heartland

[unique bay]

All you guys talking about
Is just nothing

[manic juniper]

Perhaps some in North Africa and Egypt with the early caliphates but even there it's unlikely

[unique bay]

Anyways

[wet flax]

roman empire was christian, just go in asia or africa and itt was full of pagan.

[unique bay]

Bye

[manic juniper]

The last pagan temples were already closed, how many pagans would there be

[wet flax]

bro isfrun knows its not usa it just looks like it

you must be trolling xux like crazy

[manic juniper]

I just said I removed most stars, I know it has 50 originally

[wet flax]

if a church close that wont make me not christian anymore

[manic juniper]

It doesn't deserve any star

[wet flax]

closing property does not mean it does not exist

[unique bay]

You can't cover up, that you didn't know how USA flag looked like

Lmaooooo

[manic juniper]

If a church closes 200 years ago and there are no texts on Christians I will assume their presence is negligible

They'd be very few if any

In Italy, Greece and Anatolia I doubt there would be any pagans left
Even Syria Palestine

[wet flax]

it's like saying if i close and destroy the quran no muslims will exist anymore, its useless to specific that, its from oral

pagans are rare nowadays, but at most the medieval time it was not

[manic juniper]

Pagan traditions also relied on the imperial institutions and support

[wet flax]

ofc

[manic juniper]

By promoting Christianity and dropping all pagan institutions how many chances did they have to persist

[wet flax]

due of christian imposition

but middle east africa and asia were pagans

[manic juniper]

Vikings too quickly abandoned paganism except in Sweden there it lasted a little longer

Norwegians can larp all they want yet they abandoned paganism quicker than the Danes

[wet flax]

it's a flex

paganism should'nt exist

[manic juniper]

Isn't the only evidence of paganism there in 7th century the Quran

They didn't even find idols of any kind

[wet flax]

what you define by pagan?

[manic juniper]

And it's known that Arabs produced plenty of idols and altars to pagan deities up until 4th century

[manic juniper]

Pre-Christian religion, or Christianity with heavy syncretism from those

[unique bay]

I hate America 🇵🇷

[wet flax]

religion outside of judaism and christianity, yes

[manic juniper]

Thing is the syncretism likely happened in 3rd and 4th centuries and then was replaced by the real deal after it

[manic juniper]

If that makes you feel better

[wet flax]

pagans were not rare since even byzantine had multiple laws against pagans

[manic juniper]

it's not even a European country why would I know what their flag looks like

[manic juniper]

Because there were pagans in the Balkans tho

[wet flax]

only in europe pagans were not rare anymore, in asia or in Saudi territory pagans were massive

[manic juniper]

Such as Bulgars and idk what else

[manic juniper]

?

[wet flax]

so pagans were still populated and not rare

[manic juniper]

Ah yes Slavs were still pagan initially

[unique bay]

If you don't know then you shouldn't talk about it

[manic juniper]

But they were unreachable by Muslims

Slavs and Bulgars were in the Balkans and North of the Black Sea

[manic juniper]

About Bulgars?

[wet flax]

during muhammad time pagans are often cited

[unique bay]

Yeah

[manic juniper]

Only in the Quran tho, weren't they?

[manic juniper]

Are you Bulgarian

The other sources mentioning pagans were not even contemporary sources

[wet flax]

and some others scriptures from hadith, witnesses, etc

[unique bay]

No

[manic juniper]

Thought so

[wet flax]

i don't believe quran is true anyway it's contradictive

[manic juniper]

Bulgarians are based and can recognise a joke

[manic juniper]

It's more reliable than the hadiths according to scholars

[unique bay]

What are you?

[wet flax]

bc it's preserved

[manic juniper]

Most Arab sources about pagans don't even come from hadiths but tertiary material

Which makes it even less reliable

By the time Islam reached the Balkan Slavs have converted to Christianity for something like 7 centuries

They kept some pagan traditions but those are a thing even today

Bulgars ceased to exist by then as well, they mixed with Bulgarians and their Turkic pagan traditions disappeared with them

[wet flax]

pagans are not only european, it seems you think pagans are only european

[manic juniper]

No I just mentioned Bulgars

[wet flax]

in africa there is still a lot of pagans nowadays

[manic juniper]

We were talking about North Africa and the Roman Empire tho

Most of those people are far from there, and yes multiple religions coexist there

[wet flax]

talking that the real berber identity was erased before france came

[manic juniper]

It was yeah

Berbers are like 1% of what they used to be

But those that self identify as Berbers seem to be more pagan, could be some form of romanticism

The same way nationalists tend to admire paganism

[wet flax]

romans were stilll pagans, so it does not change much

[manic juniper]

Idk I feel like the core Romans dropped all their myths and beliefs

It's hard to find anything at all about them after they converted

[wet flax]

after 314 yes

[uncut tiger]

i heard theres some new virus called the Hentaivirus or sum shit, yall stay safe man 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[sweet wolf]

you're late

the hentaivirus is decimating the acne covered gooners by the millions

[olive herald]

where is yo girl

[uncut tiger]

she got diagnosed with that virus

pray for her 💔 💔 💔

[olive herald]

wot

[shell hemlock]

I am also diagnosed with the hentaivirus

[stark holly]

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[burnt galleon]

I love Rakia.

[misty shard]

Hello

[misty shard]

Hentavirus is spreading

[burnt galleon]

U know the hentaigana?

[crystal kayak]

contracting a disease from a rat says a lot about you

[shell hemlock]

i've never felt so asian before

[abstract cypress]

no it's not... it just evolved

just like the Gallic identity merged with some germanic tribes and became French

[fervent oxide]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vJBVOaxZw7Q?si=JoJRK7fra16Xv5Pm

VOTE RED FOR AMERICA

DONT ASK WHY

[wet flax]

evolved is literally a synonym

are ancient egyptians existing ? no (erase) cause they evolved

an evolution can also be forced

[magic sail]

hello guys, I really want to start studying the english grammar and vocabulary but i don t know where to start, and i m bored of learning from books, I m B1-B2 at english by i lack knowleadge about verbal times and modes, and many other things, my accent is awful and my vocabulary is poor, isn t there a site or something?? What do you recommand me?

[manic juniper]

If you don't want to learn from books then try watching videos instead

[mystic bay]

I learned English from SpongeBob Squarepants and Harry Potter

[crystal kayak]

@plain ruin nobu just sent me a dm and he is insulting jelly for some reason and your name is also involved

[plain ruin]

His latest alt got banned last night

😂

[plain ruin]

Send me an ss in dm

[shell hemlock]

Omg let me seeee

Tell the rest of us

[crystal kayak]

dm

[shell hemlock]

Add

[sweet wolf]

https://klipy.com/gifs/squidward-spare-change-1--k01KR664BC86SFJK9ATR90D3Q0E

send sum

[sweet wolf]

damn

what was the account name

[plain ruin]

Apostate Prophet

It was the same one that was D Wood Jr a few weeks ago

[sweet wolf]

which was it before

where he convinced a mod with that account

[plain ruin]

Yes

[sweet wolf]

oh

i thought he made another more recent one

a new one after that apostate prophet one got banned

[plain ruin]

nope, not yet

[gusty kite]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-by-demonwolf-wizard-cat-witch-cat-gif-597023371037854378

[mystic bay]

Spongbub

[limpid night]

Hi

Guys

[muted pecan]

this is yours date of birth?

[limpid night]

Yes

Haha, why?

[muted pecan]

our car is older than that

[limpid night]

What? lol

[mint bone]

2011 kids are allowed on discord? damn im old

[muted pecan]

it just really feels weird having a 15yo in the chat that gets child marriage arguments

or pdf talking points

[muted pecan]

technically discord allows 13yo kids i think

and thats even worse

[shell hemlock]

It should be 16+

[muted pecan]

in poland its 16+

[quasi needle]

[muted pecan]

it is in some countries
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360050817374-Age-restriction

[shell hemlock]

Being on the internet too young just get you groomed especially on discord

Some people say it like it’s a flex

[wet flax]

a 19 can also get groomed

its not a question of age

[shell hemlock]

More likely to happen to underage minors

[muted pecan]

yeah i joined when i was 13 and i 100% agree, spent my childhood catering to mentally unstable people saying they will end it if we don't pay attention to them, this isnt the place for kids

[wet flax]

ofc, its like comparing babies skill to walk compared to a 30 years old, even if he walks better both can fall

[shell hemlock]

Most fked up people with those desires don’t find people over 18 suitable anymore it’s a messed up world we living in

[shell hemlock]

If we did a survey and asked women all over the world that had Internet access since they were a child there’s like a 99.9% probability that it has happened to them before (not real stats)

[muted pecan]

definition of grooming applies to kids and teenagers, mainly minors tho

[muted pecan]

lmao yesss also, i stopped getting unwanted pp picks when i turned 18

[wet flax]

the point of grooming still applies if we take away the predator thing

[muted pecan]

thats just wild

[muted pecan]

we are talking about 15yo kid

[wet flax]

manipulating someone to gets benifits is a form of grooming

[shell hemlock]

Another scenario, if you did a survey and asked every single women if they have experienced a traumatic un consensual experience, almost all of them would say yes they have

[wet flax]

we're talking abt underage being groomed.

[muted pecan]

sis wtf just scroll up

[wet flax]

i know a group that manipulates young girls so they mutilate and send ndes or else it can gets bad

[shell hemlock]

So real

[wet flax]

cmon that's lit our topic

[muted pecan]

15yo being on discord, especially here on #🧠｜serious-chat is like asking for something to happen wtf

[wet flax]

im more in dark romance

[muted pecan]

you fr right now?

[tribal flower]

I already explained why they do this to themselves earlier in a discussion

😭

[shell hemlock]

Exactly and especially putting like your own pic as your pfp that’s not even a question

[wet flax]

r u fricking stupid ? i was talkign abt the groom point so the topic was grooming you also answered the topic of the grooming so you're part of it omfg

ure such a troll karrin

can't even find out what a topic is

cmon

[muted pecan]

yeah i knew a 16yo that got pregnant with 24yo man, that doesnt mean its normal

[muted pecan]

well thank god her acc is clear and she has the basic discord pfp at least

[wet flax]

it's objectively bad morally to be pregnant early

[muted pecan]

i'd argue that 15/16yo experimenting with people their age is pretty normal tho

not to the point of having a kid as a kid ofc

[wet flax]

sex should be only with your wife/husband.

[quasi needle]

Why

[muted pecan]

it kinda is man, same as toddlers and newborns playing with themselves, its normal to be curious about your own body

[quasi needle]

It is

[muted pecan]

thats literally why age of consent is around 15 most of the time

[wet flax]

we're not animals, we dont fck everyone cause of hormones and whatelse, your body should be preserved for the one you wanted and will end your life

a 24 years old with 3+ bodycounts is disgusting

[quasi needle]

We are animals

Key point

[wet flax]

we're not primals and barbaric.

[tribal flower]

wdym "we"

[quasi needle]

What’s barbaric about sex

[wet flax]

we got moral also.

[quasi needle]

..?

[wet flax]

not sex itself, but having sex with a lot of people

[muted pecan]

24yo with bodycount of 3 is completly normal, as well as bodycount of 30

why do you care lmao what does it change

[quasi needle]

That’s not the point

The point is not waiting until marriage

[quasi needle]

3 is normal 30 is wild

[wet flax]

why would i love a guy that already saw 3+ women naked and entered em ? its disgusting

[quasi needle]

There’s limits to these things 💀

[muted pecan]

marriage is a made up social concept why do we care about that

[wet flax]

it isn't

[muted pecan]

it might be wild, its no ones business tho

[quasi needle]

On god

[wet flax]

secular marriage is a joke

[muted pecan]

how.

[quasi needle]

Why do you have to wait until being legally assigned to one another to have a lil fun

[muted pecan]

what animals marry each other

[quasi needle]

As long as it’s protected

[muted pecan]

you ever saw a shrimp marriage sis?

[wet flax]

marriage is an union you do infront of God

[quasi needle]

It’s 2026 bro

It’s not

[muted pecan]

soooo marriage didnt exist 3000 years ago? lmao

[wet flax]

so?

[wet flax]

it did

[muted pecan]

nice, leave her be, more options for us

[quasi needle]

Your outdated definition no longer applies ubiquitously

[muted pecan]

hmm so its not just a union in front of god is it

[wet flax]

being traditionnalist is outdated?

[quasi needle]

😈

[quasi needle]

Yes

[muted pecan]

i'd score a baddie

[wet flax]

god didnt exist 3000years ago? lol

[wet flax]

glad to be then.

[quasi needle]

Your god didn’t exist 3000 years ago*

[muted pecan]

your god or god in general?

[wet flax]

abrahamic god

[wet flax]

prove it

[quasi needle]

Uh no

[wet flax]

apparently fcking anyone around is good, nice generation with good concepts

[quasi needle]

Strawman

It’s not “anyone” it’s just not waiting until marriage

[wet flax]

that's what u assumed.

[muted pecan]

it dates back to bronze age when marriages were "created" 2350bc in ancient mesopotamia

so no

marriage didnt involved your god from the start

they as made up as word "abrahamic"

[quasi needle]

js say u get no play #Blessed

[wet flax]

nice biblical knowledge

[shell hemlock]

Girl

[wet flax]

actually i got a lot of men on me

i just dont want to choose randomly

[quasi needle]

Again it’s not randomness

You keep exaggerating points none of us have made

[muted pecan]

so marriage aint a union in front of god is it now?

civil marriage also exists

[wet flax]

it is

[shell hemlock]

What yall talking abt why body count

[muted pecan]

i'd suggest you wait till marriage and fuck off from anyone else

[wet flax]

its a joke, not even a thing

[quasi needle]

Marriage is a serious union that transcends simply being a playa

[wet flax]

ive more than 3 body, i feel digusted of myself lmao

[muted pecan]

because ruth is delusional and tries to justify thinking that bodycount counts at all

[quasi needle]

Why

It’s literally normal

[wet flax]

no

[shell hemlock]

You can’t even tell most of the time

[quasi needle]

Why isn’t it normal

[muted pecan]

soooo by your own definition you say that you're a sl7t?

[quasi needle]

Literally everyone does it

[muted pecan]

what

[wet flax]

i wont leave a guy bc he has more than 1 body, i just see it as disgusting

[quasi needle]

More than 1?

Good god

[wet flax]

a default can be embraced

[muted pecan]

you have 3, you dont deserve him lmao

[wet flax]

i have more i said

in fact, i got 7

[muted pecan]

you should have waited till mariage, you dirty prostitute

[shell hemlock]

Sooo true

[wet flax]

you think im not aware

[quasi needle]

bro 😭

[wet flax]

lwk tried to end my life 3 times bc of that somehow

[shell hemlock]

Is Ruth a street walker, confirmed? I’m joking

[muted pecan]

and you try to lecture others? shut the fuck up lmao

[shell hemlock]

Btw Ruth aren’t you 18

[quasi needle]

so it took 7 times to go “this isn’t right” ..?

[wet flax]

yeah

[wet flax]

nah i was drunk most of the time

[muted pecan]

18 with 7+ bodycount? lmaoooo

[manic juniper]

Body count more than zero at any point in life is kind of degenerate when we have alternatives

[fallow shard]

What the fuck is going on

[quasi needle]

So you were basically groomed

[muted pecan]

DRUNK SEX ALSO HAHAHA

[wet flax]

i did a mistake, so yes i can

[sweet wolf]

you reminded me of that ludwig meme

[manic juniper]

In vitro should be the only way to support our species

[wet flax]

ure such a troll

[quasi needle]

Traditionalist lecturing us on the morality of sex

[manic juniper]

Imagine engaging in primitive body confrontations

[shell hemlock]

Let’s preach self love and our right hand