🧠｜serious-chat

[burnt galleon]

My personal moral compass.

[turbid dome]

You’d have to define your moral principles cause idk

(Also ping me because I’ll be back in a little bit,
Going to eat)

[burnt galleon]

I follow many contradictory schools.

For example: Eudaemonism.

[fresh flower]

This makes no sense

That's like a Jew being a Nazi

Aren't you a Muslim

[vagrant swan]

"for the visiual learners out there"

[mint parrot]

@turbid dome

[fresh flower]

Yall get my point but still

Eudaemonism is HARAM if you're a Muslim

[burnt galleon]

I don’t understand why most ppl ask. To be fair since the things we lately talk abt are discovered, not chosen.

[fresh flower]

I'm starting to believe that you're not Muslim

[high raven]

They are mutually exclusive as ultimate moral foundations, you cannot have it both ways

[fresh flower]

That's what I'm saying

It's either human well-being or divine command

[vagrant swan]

yo can you show where the message is signs are unclear

[fresh flower]

Believe me bro it's necessary in this channel

[uncut tiger]

bro u upgraded ur arrows

[high rapids]

because he wants to marry her

[turbid dome]

That’s good

[high raven]

As equals no

[mint parrot]

Explain please

[fresh flower]

This ^

Only if you roleplay as a Muslim

[high raven]

They contradict when it comes to ultimate authority for what makes an action morally right, it's either that an action is right if it promotes human well-being (Eudaemonism) or that it's right if it aligns with Allah’s command, even if it doesn’t maximize well-being

You could have Islam as a basis for what is right and defend it with Eudaemonic reasoning, but you can't have both as ultimate authority

You could, but then Eudaemonism is no longer an independent moral standard, so there's no point in saying that your morals are rooted in that

Then you're no longer a Muslim, you're denying divine command as the ultimate basis of morality

That's just what I think though

[fresh flower]

My fellow Islamic scholar is explaining it rn bro

[high raven]

We must guide the Ummah

What's left of it at least

[mint parrot]

I sent this message before they do

[fresh flower]

Look at the state of it ya Allah we have Saudi Muslims denying the will of Allah SWT 💔💔💔💔💔💔

[high raven]

Greta made it to the top 10 antisemitic influencers awards

[fresh flower]

Typical Danish "humans" copying my goat Greta

[burnt galleon]

Most ppl who are like this, dislike themselves, but that doesn’t prevent them from following any faith or philosophy.

[high raven]

He developed the emotional bandwidth that many lack to realise that you can simultaneously oppose a Zionist and an Islamic cause

[quasi needle]

People just inventing new terms now

Despite the fact the Israelis call all anti-zions antisemitic, Carlson does spread some wild Jew rumors from time to time

He preached great replacement

I wouldn’t say he’s largely antisemeitc compared to most but he still is a bit

He’s just a grifter

Yadda yadda they’re trying to replace us yadda yadda

It’s a bunch of nonsense

It’s more that he does what the Israelis themselves do and conflates Jews with Zions and vice versa

Tell me you’re joking

Like what

Dude went to Russia shilling actual slop

Literally got amazed that Russia sells sliced bread

Grifter

Anyone who engages in culture war is below worth

[analog rose]

What is culture war

[quasi needle]

Culture war is what the subspecies engage in

It’s such bullshit

[high raven]

Progressive vs conservative worldviews

It's more or less US politics

[analog rose]

Mk

[quasi needle]

He’s also the kind of Christian who’s a delusional rat that wants to throw away secularism in the US

There is zero need for religion in the modern world

It’s great on the local scale for communities

Take a look at the greater picture and all it does is cause shit

You’re devaluing humanity by needing something impossibly greater

Most people really don’t need a god to give themselves purpose

That’s probably the case with people who don’t interact with politics too

The blissfully unaware

I would probably be happier if I convinced myself I’ll get infinite luxury after I die if I’m a good boy but I just don’t believe that gives more value than the reality of having one life

[turbid dome]

It wasn’t even sliced

True

[quasi needle]

Not my sliced bread

Fresh from the bakery lad

[turbid dome]

https://external-preview.redd.it/tucker-carlson-mocked-for-fawning-video-praising-russia-v0-97eOGoAXyUmxU1szVJBgODiN9EJNKoV64qy9UlS4qPU.jpg?auto=webp&s=193c72853e85299694ec9d1f467da7dbfe2cec05

they have bread!

[turbid dome]

Fresh? That’s anti American

[quasi needle]

They have shopping carts!!! Russia is miles ahead of Western Europe!! Look what having no immigrants does!!!

Buzzword buzzword

We will never be in a post scarcity world

That’s a utopian view that’ll never come to fruition

Nobody will ever convince me that technology will magically continue advancing

[fresh flower]

Who's the we

[quasi needle]

Our species

You and Minecraft are the same here

You claim resources will stop being scarce because technology gets better

You just can’t convince me of that

There’s a limit to what we can do

We’re already a century away from losing our black gold and we’re nowhere near on track to phasing it out

Not saying we’re not close to phasing it out. We’re not even on track

[high raven]

The Netherlands is the world's third largest food exporter

[quasi needle]

We’ll kill ourselves before any utopia

That’s not happening until long after

Fusion has made noticeable and great but relatively tiny advancements in development

And we have like no helium-3 which is, as far as I’m aware, the best resource for it. So we’d need a reliable moon base and infrastructure for that which will NOT be done in 40-70 years

Yeah. Not soon

Absolutely not AI

AGI is a buzzword thrown around by Altman and Musk so their shares go up 10%

It’s miles away

You realize AGI is mutually exclusive from LLMs

They’re entirely different concepts

LLMs just calculate and compare word weights to find the most likely words to respond

That’s not how it works

LLMs on their own have zero ability to become AGI

Imagine I had wings and could fly

Well that’s fully possible but still not AGI

What do you think AGI is

Yes we all know what it stands for

What do you think it means

You’re confusing a good LLM with AGI

And how does it do that

An AGI is self learning, self teaching, permanent memory, no context windows, can plan and adjust to entirely new concepts, can interact with the world and gain experiences, can apply knowledge independently across areas, knows when it’s wrong, has zero hallucinations and can act on its own terms

We’re not close to this

ChatGPT at its CORE design definitionally cannot approach untrained concepts

Google AI spits out straight lies daily whenever I google anything

Still not an AGI

[high raven]

That's just an advanced LLM

[quasi needle]

^

An AGI actually understands. they definitionally don’t rely on patterns. they have self directed goals ENTIRELY, they are not controlled. they can take something from one domain and apply it in another undirected and without any additional information and stay consistent over LONG periods of time

An LLM is INCAPABLE of approaching untrained concepts

[high raven]

I'm on my third aloe vera juice but I'm pretty sure we discussed this

[quasi needle]

It’s not something I’m going to bother explaining why. They have to be trained by humans. They cannot approach anything they’re not trained on

[high raven]

It was someone else #🧠｜serious-chat message either way you need the missing pieces to work together as a unified system, just adding them on as features doesn't make it AGI

[quasi needle]

I’m not getting philosophical with this bro

You know what it means

LLMs will never be allat

TL;DR we’re going to kill ourselves and we’re not going to develop technology at a fast enough rate to outpace our demise

I mean I hope at least you don’t believe in that Type 1 civilization BS

If it’s not self controlling then it will never be as good as humans

I’m going to sleep

https://tenor.com/view/brian-griffin-thinking-gif-12268318493156619732

[high raven]

We don't know what intelligence is or how a brain fully works so there's no way to design a machine that can emulate that

[manic juniper]

Nordic countries shooting much further than they're expected to

[fervent oxide]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uubOOTobPY0?si=51BkxJreBSvFUV1k

WE DONT NEEd A FUCKING CEASEFIRE

we need to win the war completely

Hail State of Israel Hail IDF Hail Benjamin Netanyahu

After this anti-terrorism war is settled people will live peacefully without resisting against State of Israel

Nobody should use any excuse to fight against Israel illegally

He’s the national hero both for Israel and the United States

Expand territory for his country with every measure that is possible

How patriotic

Fix it, they are doing an anti-terrorism campaign in the soil of the State of Israel

[river token]

Didn't you say you don't support genocide and horrific crimes against humanity?

[fervent oxide]

Ofc I don’t support Hamas, if they want to end this horrific situation, just come out and surrender to IDF

In that case there will be no such issue

[river token]

IDF folks are also terroristic.

They're literally nazis, why are we debating their morality?

[fervent oxide]

Yeah ? That’s exactly we should realize it for the interest of the United States of America ?

Are you standing against US and Israel ?

[river token]

Fighting against Hamas and bombing civilians, r-ping children, blocking food aid aren't things that are corelated in any capacity.

[fervent oxide]

That’s bs

It was a big deal and huge interest related to US

[river token]

Why does US concern you?

You're Chinese, come out of your delusion bubble.

[fervent oxide]

I am also white

Be a Chinese does not make me stand opposite against the US

[river token]

They're literally trying to control Iran to control global oil and energy supply chains for China.

[river token]

It quite literally does.

[fervent oxide]

Not at all

[river token]

You're too anti-national to be a nationalist socialist.

[fervent oxide]

Come out and surrender to IDF and evacuate the area

That will never happen, ever again

[river token]

Evacuate the area?

That's their land, and their homes.

[fervent oxide]

They have to evacuate there for their safety

[river token]

And go to where?

[fervent oxide]

It is a battle ground, and in a battle where civilians would be involved in a fight that would cause unnecessary casualties

[river token]

They don't have the right to return unlike Jews.

If they leave, their lands will be grabbed.

They need to go.

[shy summit]

That is not evacuation, that’s an invasion and diasporadic diffusion,

[fervent oxide]

Is that the reason you support them to stick in a battle ground that will kill them ?

[river token]

Yes. I don't support ethnic cleansing, how bad is that?

[fervent oxide]

I don’t understand how inhumane that was to tell civilians evacuate battle grounds

[broken lark]

💀

[fervent oxide]

You are supporting the so called genocide

[river token]

"Jews have to leave Nazi Germany for their own safety."

That's forceful displacement.

[fervent oxide]

Because you recommend them to stay in the battle ground that will kill them

[river token]

See how absurd you sound?

[fervent oxide]

Just great you admitted it

[river token]

Are you crazy?

[fervent oxide]

That’s not Israel have done

israel didn’t let their 20% of muslim population to leave the country

You are saying people should stay on the battle ground, facing risk of dying for some piece of shit

They need survive, they need shelters, they need to leave

That’s what they need

Because the war is ongoing and it is affecting them

Therefore they have to leave even people who live close the border already being evacuated in Israeli territory

Not really, they just need to follow the order of IDF

And war will end very fast, they will get their shelter to live

We need to give a peace livable place for Gazas

Not a soil for Hamas

[fervent oxide]

Egypt blocked their way to leave is also the fact

[turbid harbor]

whats this

"arabs are only allowed to have 3% of land" theyre huddling them up in a playground bro

[river token]

Status of Israeli Muslims in Israel.

[turbid harbor]

are they arabs?

[fervent oxide]

Ofc I would advocate if they would live in Israel instead and everybody would live together and enjoy their life

[river token]

And leave to where, exactly?

[fervent oxide]

And actually they do live in Israeli Gaza

[river token]

China?

[fervent oxide]

We do not accept any refugee

[river token]

Bloody hypocrite.

[fervent oxide]

That’s our policy

[turbid harbor]

i dont think a zionist cares about what are really considered safe havens for the dispossessed to move into

[fervent oxide]

I would say that’s pretty unfair and they have to reform it

Giving the same status as what an Israeli citizen can do

Israeli arabs and Israeli Jews should be treated equally

[turbid harbor]

im so sure bro

[shy summit]

Because they then bombed the locations they were told to go to.

It’s an ethnic cleansing.

[river token]

Yes, they are ethnically cleansing Shias from Lebanon.
All of them.

[fervent oxide]

That’s pretty bad I think they should not have done that

[turbid harbor]

arent they cleansing shias from the entire levant

[fervent oxide]

I also advocate that if Israeli arabs and Israeli Jews would live together and without these wars and struggles it would be perfect

[turbid harbor]

😭

[fervent oxide]

All live under State of Israel

[river token]

It's quite literally reverse nazism from the Jewish side. They're not exterminating Hamas or Hezbollah but literally everybody.

[high raven]

Lol you people have been repeating the same talking points to him for months do you honestly think that this time he'll get it 😭

[turbid harbor]

wow did he suddenly develop a human heart for the downtrodden israelis

[cerulean pivot]

Unfortunately

[fervent oxide]

Israel interest above all national interest above all

[turbid harbor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vgkcoverage-vgk-coverage-tom-tucker-son-CEengqYwRrVkNuI434

even when theyre brown?

[fervent oxide]

Giving the same status is literally making Israel more prosperous and powerful

[turbid dome]

Minecraft_652 (Israel Mainland) doing it for the love of the game

[fervent oxide]

Not really the bad thing to do

[river token]

Yeah, no, you're evil. You don't have to play pretend of "I'm not evil." You are. That's what you are, a malevolent, egregious and despicable person.

[turbid harbor]

didnt expect to come back to a kinder and less racist minecrft

[fervent oxide]

That is not evil and that is common sense

That is how you follow the rule of the nature

[river token]

His one step forward is someone's 10 steps back.

[turbid dome]

He doesn’t just step forward, he leaps forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

[fervent oxide]

I rather to live in US Mainland

[river token]

I KNEW IT. ANTI NATIONAL, SO CALLED "NATIONAL SOCIALIST".

[fervent oxide]

I will come to US

[river token]

Is there a website to report people to CCP?

[fervent oxide]

Pretty soon I believe

[turbid dome]

Ngl by the time you get to live out your dream of living in the US 90% of the population will hate you for supporting Israel 😭😭😭

[fervent oxide]

They will not because nearly half of them love Trump

And Trump got elected

[turbid harbor]

idk the fact he sees israeli arabs and muslims as israeli first arabs/muslim second is worth applauding

[river token]

"Dream" and "living in the US" shouldn't be in the same sentence. 🤓☝️

[turbid dome]

Nah it was independents rather than a large base that won him the presidency, trumps base is about 30% of voters and a ton of Americans don’t vote, @shy summit can probably confirm

[turbid harbor]

its too charitable

[turbid dome]

True

[river token]

Who dreams of living in Trump's US, especially as an immigrant?

[fervent oxide]

I always dreaming to live in the 1700s or 1800s US as a landowner

[high raven]

Anyone who values money

[fervent oxide]

My life is going to be so great under that era

[turbid dome]

Mein Kraft_652 (Trumpistan mainland)

[river token]

Even from the financial side, there's better countries you can move to. Unless you're rich already...

[high raven]

If I didn't have a family, or hated them, I'd have moved to work in the US too

[fervent oxide]

He said most voters are fucking stupid

Lmfao

[turbid dome]

His is true, they are

[high raven]

No lol, you can't beat the income of a job in the US in almost all sectors

[fervent oxide]

Exactly guess who is voting for Democrats for political correctness of saying all gender is shit because they don’t represent shit

What in the fuck bro

[turbid dome]

A majority of Americans can’t read at or above a 6th grade level, a large amount of voters don’t realize Biden dropped out until they got their ballots on Election Day, and I don’t think most of them could even point to Israel or Iran on a map

[turbid harbor]

is this true

[fervent oxide]

I do sincerely believe that US is a country again under Republican administration

At least it was more likes a country, or a nation

[shy summit]

At most only 80% of Americans vote

[turbid harbor]

this is true

[turbid dome]

The democrats are more educated than th republicans btw

[fervent oxide]

They educated with shi

[shy summit]

It happened multiple times, their intentions are clear.

[fervent oxide]

They are educated with political madness and how to be more disruptive to the society

[turbid dome]

Yes, a majority cannot understand basic English, they can read and only get a surface level understanding but fail to ask deeper questions about things like bias, the author, consequences, etc

[fervent oxide]

They have to change that strategy, it is bad for them and this should never happen

[turbid harbor]

ok they cant be that illiterate

[fervent oxide]

Kill civilians in evacuation is absolutely unnecessary

[turbid harbor]

see thats more like him

[shy summit]

Democrats, on average score higher on most Accademics than Republicans. They have wider sources of information and are more literate than most republicans. You can look it up on Pew if you want.

[turbid harbor]

outright call for human casualties

[turbid dome]

It’s true if you’ve ever tried to have a conversation about someone with a text beyond surface level understanding

[fervent oxide]

They do, I never say that is untrue, BUT a huge but here, you really didn’t set up some national loyalty test to let somebody hold real power

[turbid harbor]

idk the americans ive spoken to and befriended were well-spoken and intelligent

[fervent oxide]

Democrats are generally considered more edcuated more young and more left

[turbid dome]

I mean not all of them but I suspect the worst off spend less time online

[fervent oxide]

But being left does not mean they are benefical to the state

[shy summit]

Sorry to say, republicans are less literate, less educated and are more prone to acts of sexual violence, as well as hate crimes against minorities.

[turbid harbor]

ykw youre right

[fervent oxide]

Some Republicans do have that issue, and some are far-right nazi members, but some are really patriotic heroes that takes the stance to defend America

[turbid harbor]

everyone with prolonged access to the internet is bound to be smarter and more articulate in some way

[fervent oxide]

I really barely see any Democrats would defend the country

[shy summit]

90%+ of Nazis are Republican

[turbid harbor]

than the avg joe

[shy summit]

Most Veterans vote Democrat.

[turbid harbor]

nationalism isnt a metric of intelligence though

[shy summit]

Especially in the last two cycles.

[turbid dome]

Just look up police domestic violence rates vs the general population.

Or military sexual assault rates (hotspots for sexual assault and rpe) internationally often are around US military bases like Okinawa.

[fervent oxide]

It is highly relating to the general power projection of a state

[fervent oxide]

Not US’s shit

[fervent oxide]

But most capitalists and landowners would vote Republicans

[turbid harbor]

which is not inherently intelligent

[fervent oxide]

You have no place to explain where does that 54% of the Trump voter to let him win the election

Because the fact is, the last one he really won

That really explains a lot

[shy summit]

You should look at his current approval ratings.

[fervent oxide]

God that is so bad I don’t want to see it or hear it

Just have a white male candidate you will win the next one

Don’t put Kamala Harris again

[turbid dome]

At this rate we’re getting President Tucker Carlson

It’s scary

[fervent oxide]

Why not have President Minecraft_652 (China Mainland)

I will lead US to dominate the world

[turbid dome]

Not allowed (also a horrible idea)

[shy summit]

Actually AOCs approval ratings are higher than Trump’s.

Which is wild.

[fervent oxide]

Does any other president ever hold this low level of approval rating

[shy summit]

Lowest in history

He’s cooked, impeachment motions are already being talked about by Republican politicians.

[fervent oxide]

What he have done, is qualified to be a national socialist (stalinist

But he’s lack of power, unfortunately

[river token]

If you can't afford taxes and rent in big cities in the US, without a proper safety net as in the EU then you're doomed from the start. If you don't have a guarantee of a high paying job before moving already, the rodeo isn't going to be smooth sailing.

If you're moving in with a high skillset and through an employee visa, it is going to be fine I guess. It is great, if you’re middle class and up and young. If you have kids, things like housing, childcare, education and health care get really expensive really fast. Many couples have one partner work in a job for the state or another large employer mainly for the healthcare benefits, especially if the other partner works independently or at a small company.

The political situation is also dicey, and the thought of growing old in the US is a nightmare, as there are no social supports. I’ve heard of elder care facilities that cost $30,000 a month and still suck.

The QoL of sucks. If you're moving in, "just for the money" and have no guaranteed high paying job at some company already, it's not going to be an easy way up.

I think Singapore is a better choice still, more stability and diversity.

US has a lot of lay offs and less job security, so even if you earn a higher paying job and are laid off, you'll have to leave the country or get a job after very quickly.

Of course US has high ceiling for earning, but realistically, it's not easy. It's not this utopia you move into and get immediately rich.

[turbid harbor]

singapore is not in any way faring better than the US 😭

[high raven]

I was thinking that someone would move there after finding employment first, not just on a whim. But still, the QoL is no different than most European cities unless you're low-income, the safety net of Europe also only really exists in Nordic countries, western Europe has a mediocre one at best and southern Europe's is nonexistent tbh

As far as jobs go, in an above average role, Europe really isn't that great

[fresh flower]

Ngl bro all those counterarguments for Europe only apply for like 7 countries

Anywhere else and you're as screwed as in the US

[turbid harbor]

nordic countries arent even floating that well nowadays

their welfare isnt as compromised as most nations on earth

[river token]

Housing is expensive, but food is cheap, and you earn a lot.

I am trying to find a job in Singapore, I'm very biased. 😭

[turbid harbor]

that applies to all south east asian countries

[river token]

At least food is healthy and not literal junk.

[high raven]

Sweden and Finland are barely hanging on

[turbid harbor]

but the tax haven/social facility bliss isnt there anymore

their social democratic model cant keep up with the economic tumult

shit sucks

[river token]

Uh-huh, but I'd rather be poor in Europe than poor in US.

[turbid harbor]

just when i wanted to live in denmark idk

[river token]

That's just what it is, less crimes and more social security.

[turbid harbor]

you'll still wade through a forest of street food with ungodly amount of fat and oil

[river token]

That's fine, atleast it's cheap.

[turbid harbor]

thats true

[river token]

I don't mind options, just that the healthy options shouldn't be ultra expensive.

[river token]

Yeah, that is fair I guess

[turbid harbor]

as long as there re greens any bowl of concentrated MSG should be healthy enough

[urban swift]

• food safety standards are pretty high.

[urban swift]

Anything for the taste

[urban swift]

Smells like capitalism

[fresh flower]

Stay in your countries guys don't come to Europe it's so bad ahahaha don't come nooo

[urban swift]

What if crusades take place

The laugh be long gone

[fervent oxide]

if you want total security on jobs I know just the place you can have it

https://join.ice.gov

here's a job for anyone who is living in the US

a decent, government stable job

a job with proud and glory

[river token]

😭 Dude what?!

[fervent oxide]

https://join.ice.gov/

just sign it up

don't even make a question

[river token]

I would never.

[river token]

What are you, a CIA spy in China?

I read about it here and there, but I read the torah too.

[fervent oxide]

why ? it is what you want, a stable job with a decent income and total security that you won't get fired

[river token]

It's complicated, I was muslim till the age of 7 before I was adopted by a catholic family. So, my birth parents were muslim and then I was baptized.

[fervent oxide]

what in the fuck

dude you are

[river token]

That's something I'd much rather not talk about.

But it wasn't abandonment, rest assured.

[fervent oxide]

you are a muslim once ?

God bless her

I will pray for her

[river token]

When did I sympathise with Hamas?

[shy summit]

You’re gonna need to elaborate on this one.?

[fervent oxide]

she really said she would recommend people not to leave the area that is the terrorist wanted

[shy summit]

That’s not supporting terrorism

[fervent oxide]

I didn't say she support terrorism but that's sympathize terrorists I think

[shy summit]

That’s just advocating against people giving in to Israel’s attempts of ethnic cleansing.

That’s not sympathizing with terrorists

[gloomy frost]

Have y'all ever thought, why do you not want to be bored?

[fervent oxide]

are you also saying that people should not leave the battle area too ?

[shy summit]

Civilian infrastructure has no reason to be a battle zone. Israel targeted it to hurt the general population.

[fervent oxide]

the battle area is well defined and coded, there's no excuse to make people stay there

[shy summit]

They bombed non-combat zones multiple times already.

[fervent oxide]

we are not talking about non-combat zones, we are talking about combat zones dude

there's absolutely no excuse to told people to be there

[shy summit]

Which is pointless when they don’t adhere to combat zones and deliberately target refugees. This has been proven.

[fresh flower]

@verbal drift Are you Muslim

[shy summit]

They murdered innocents to try and get others to be kicked off their own land with nothing but the clothes on their backs.

[fervent oxide]

don't say 'own land', the ownership of the land is contesting, but the people's live should be preserved

in order to do that, we need huge evacuation

[fresh flower]

We

[shy summit]

What good is that if you strip them of their entire livelihoods, starve them, and then send them to random places on the planet to live as second class citizens.

[fervent oxide]

I do not support that

all I was advocating, is treat them just like average Israeli Jews

[shy summit]

That is literally Israel’s plan dumbass

[fervent oxide]

I think they have to reform, someday, but they have to do it

it is simply unrealistic to wipe 3 million out of the world

it's unrealistic

[river token]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_protected_zones_and_civilians_in_Gaza

[fresh flower]

Genuinely a moron sometimes he argues that it's wrong but 5 minutes later he gargles their jewels

This guy must be studied

[fervent oxide]

it is costly, it is unnecessary and very unrealistic to do that

[shy summit]

Get Israel’s balls out of your mouth Mine. The whole point is to kill or displace innocent people.

[cerulean pivot]

Y'all need to go out abit

[fresh flower]

I stalked a man in the forest last night it was fun

[cerulean pivot]

Yay

[river token]

Also, just so you know, Israel is advocating that Palestine doesn't exist.

And at the same time, that Palestinians will not get citizenship in Israel as it's a jewish state.

[fresh flower]

Now he will say it doesn't exist

[shy summit]

This @fervent oxide

[fervent oxide]

Israeli arabs and all people who live in Israeli Gaza should get citizienship in Israel

[shy summit]

They treat them as less than human.

[shy summit]

Do you know nothing of Israeli domestic politics?

[river token]

Even the muslims that do have a citizenship live in an apartheid state.

[shy summit]

Like there is a law that lets Israel execute Palestinians without trial bail or reprieve.

[cerulean pivot]

citizens equality in Jewish states 🥰

[fervent oxide]

I don't know too much but I know very much about domestic politics in terrorist regimes like Hamas and terrorist supported Palestine

[fervent oxide]

I oppose both, one is the idea of having a terrorist state, and the other one is domestic discrimination against arab citizens

[river token]

There is a revocation of citizenship law that allows for the revocation of citizenship for those convicted of "terrorist acts" and who receive compensation from the palestinian authority, which is disproportionately aimed at Arab citizens.

[fresh flower]

Easy solution for all of this but you guys don't like it

[shy summit]

Hamas was funded and founded in part but Benjamin Netenyahoo

[fervent oxide]

strategic political move to achieve the goal for State of Israel to maintain regional dominance

there's no justification for Oct 7th

[shy summit]

Yeah, then he continued to create worse and worse living conditions for Palestinians

[fervent oxide]

there was a political struggle isn't mean that you have to terrorize one country's entire population

[fresh flower]

If I don't take it someone else will

[river token]

Except the property owners wanted to come back but were forcefully expelled.

[fervent oxide]

are you saying your solving plan to separate the territory of Israel is justified for State of Israel

[river token]

The logic is so skewed, it literally does not exist.

[fervent oxide]

that's not how it works and it would never work like that

[fervent oxide]

have you ever, talk to an Israeli, or IDF soldier about their feeling of being attacked for no reason, and their family is kidnapped by Hamas, they did this endlessly and they openly shout for kill the Jewish people

I don't think any of these is justified, for real not because of my morality or principle

[river token]

There is no way, Israeli intelligence agency didn't know about October 7. They literally relay information from middle east to USA about a plethora of stuff, do you expect anyone to believe they didn't know what was going to happen?

It's not a justification at all for what happened, and people that committed that act should get punished as harshly as possible. But you can't deny the government enabled it to enact their personal war.

[fresh flower]

"For no reason" 💀💀💀💀

[fervent oxide]

it is because everything relating to this is unnecessary, we had better strategy, we had better solution, we can let them have a settle in State of Israel

giving land to terrorist regime and leave them alone is literally suicide

and it is proven ineffective, all the fucking time since this conflict have existed

[cerulean pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1341171432142409809/1449356264063897720/togif-3.gif

[river token]

They could support Palestine liberation and give aid to official Palestinian groups than Hamas.

[fervent oxide]

never bring a conspiracy theory on an argument

the reality is, they did this

[river token]

Just because Germany was under Hitler and Nazi regime who were state terrorists, was Germany totally annexed?

[fervent oxide]

this should be decided between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin

they did divide Germany into few occupation zones

[shy summit]

Yes. I’ve conducted over a dozen interviews of current and leaving IDF soldiers…

Did you forget I’m a JOURNALIST?

[river token]

What are you talking about?

[fervent oxide]

you are, but I don't understand what is your problem with their will of defending their country and people

[shy summit]

Bro doesn’t realized I’ve had my work published in several publications on this subject.

[fervent oxide]

I think it is quite clear, that at least we can agree on few things

like regardless on which the land would be in who's hands

we should give them a peaceful place to live

and they should live, being treated equally in a regime

that's what I stands for

and do not talk about the ownership of the land, that is really contesting, and I don't want to say too much about LRWEITP or survival for the fittest anymore

I stand that not because I'm morally superior, I stand that just because politically it is not a good choice to let people live in turmoil

[fervent oxide]

then at least you would understand how this will go, and who or what you should support

idk what you guys have been thinking of me, I might not be a good person, but I'm indeed well-known about how geopolitics work

[river token]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/netanyahus-office-admits-intelligence-officer-didnt-pass-on-warning-hours-before-october-7-attack-yvjjr6ps

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/the-intel-on-hamas-attack-plan-was-there-but-idf-simply-refused-to-believe-it-probe-finds/amp/

The only conspiracy really is intent, I think their intentions were more so about continuing the war and use the attack as a proxy for their own agenda of expansion.

And not really a "systemic failure" or misreading of intentions.

[fervent oxide]

if you are talking it in geopolitics mode, I would say the only way they can survive is expansion

one aspect they were surrounded by enemies, historically and now even they have controlled enormous power with a fancy economy, their worry to be extinguished did not disappear

Israel is a country with no 'strategic depth', the only way for them is to advance, advance another and another buffer zone for their safety

they are not the Soviet Union that has so much land that Nazis cannot use its force to occupy all of it in a very short time

[river token]

Because they didn't belong there in the first place. But even then, do you think if they abide by the 50:50 or hell, even 53:47 land division plan by Britain and allow Palestinians to return to Palestine, all this would never happen.

For now, they already have peace treaty with egypt, strong relations with US (and that neutrals out UAE, Saudi and OPEC/GCC countries.)

There only real enemy is Hezbollah/Hamas and Iran. Even for them, the visible objective is Israel stops attacking Lebanon, lets the Palestinians return to their land and retreats from buffer zones.

The notion that Israel is surrounded by enemies and is fighting to survive is frankly outdated and stupid as of today.

[fervent oxide]

'if there wasn't an Israel, we will create one'

Israel is created, for the interest of the superpowers to balance out the arab world

it is supported by British, America, and Soviet Union

[river token]

So your interest is capitalistic?

[fervent oxide]

the big power's will imposed this

[fervent oxide]

I am a national socialist

national interest above all

[river token]

Stay in one lane, don't dilute the conversation with a wee bit of humanitarianism, a wee bit of survivalism and then your true intentions of only supporting Israel due to monetary/political benefits of the US.

[fervent oxide]

it is my true intention, but it is also my true will to not be working in this way because it is simply strategically bad to treat them like animals

it is bad for both the interest of the US and Israel, to treat Gazans like that

[river token]

Why would you even talk about 'humanitarianism' and being against genocide when you support everything Israel did? Or when you're against any way to neutralize the situation for civilians?

[fervent oxide]

my little humanitarianism is established based when you are implementing a bad strategy

being demonic does not make you more superior or gain any strategic advantage against your enemy

treat people like animal is a bad strategy

and it is better to change it

[river token]

You're just an evil person, that is what there is to the whole situation.

"No way to justify October 7" you said, while supporting the same in Palestine since everyday after the initial attack.

[fervent oxide]

why would you have to kill them or terrorize them when you can tax them, let them work for you, and use them as the manpower pool to fight against your enemy ?

it is fucking total waste, population is a very precious resource

[fresh flower]

Wrap it up 💀

[fervent oxide]

do not treat people like animals

just tell them you are a glory soldier now, go fight for Israel and we will pay for your bills is way fucking better off to kill it

[cerulean pivot]

But Kill them like such

Btw isreal violence is not just in palastine

[fervent oxide]

everyone who understands war between nations is just about, manpower, economic power, military force

why the fuck ever we have to waste manpower in occupation zones

[fervent oxide]

that's the same bad strategy and mistake as every loser and what Hitler have done

Jesus Christ

[river token]

So, say it, say Benjamin Netanyahu is a loser.

[fervent oxide]

not yet he is winning

but if he don't change it, he might lose in the future

I'm thinking of the position for Israel for so long

I understand it really pretty well

[river token]

You should think about employment instead.

[fervent oxide]

I had the money

[cerulean pivot]

Let's start with the school that he left

[fervent oxide]

I don't give a shit about it actually even the rent I have collected every month is enough to cover all of my bills

[broken lark]

Yeah, true. He's delaying the corruption charges against him by waging wars

[river token]

Translation: The way you talk pulled me in… and then you reject me? That’s so unfair 😭😭😭😭😭
You better take responsibility, you’re gonna break my heart.

[cerulean pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-taiga-aisaka-toradora-sad-girl-sad-girl-emotional-alone-gif-6119726276555151088

Hi nobu

[river token]

What do you mean by that?

[turbid harbor]

l ragebait

[fresh flower]

Only Christian who doesn't care about Jerusalem

[weary belfry]

damn, Nobu

old times

[cerulean pivot]

He's undercovered now lol
Denying that he's nobu

[river token]

I would loosely get you saying it should be turned into a synagogue since it was the site for first temple and then the second temple. Atleast they have some connection to that land. Christianity doesn't even have any connection to Temple Mount, it's just some connection that Jesus preached in the city.

[fresh flower]

Why did you say that then

[river token]

What the hell? Why?

[weary belfry]

who's he

[cerulean pivot]

Wangmin

[weary belfry]

wait, are u talking abt wangmin

😭

[river token]

It's a historical site, it should be protected. We're not barbarians like our ancestors.

[fresh flower]

That's rude bro mine weren't barbarians

[cerulean pivot]

They were Vikings

[fresh flower]

That's a job title 😡😡😡

[cerulean pivot]

[river token]

It wasn't even that the Muslims tore down the second temple. It was torn down by the Roman empire, the Umayyad Caliphate just built the mosque on that land.

[fresh flower]

What does that have to do with Christians

[river token]

@verbal drift

[turbid harbor]

"its a historical site destroying this would be sacrilegous" you gotta come up with a better defense

[fresh flower]

Synagogues aren't sacred in Christianity

Stick to talking about Islam I almost forgot how little of Christianity you know

Synagogues aren't sacred in Christianity

Learn your religion, you've been forcefed lies by the Jews in ask a Christian

Synagogues aren't sacred in Christianity

[turbid harbor]

what the hell are you talking about

[river token]

A. It was a temple, not a synagogue.

B. The ark of covenant was lost when the second temple was destroyed. There's very limited archaeological excavation there, I don't know what you mean by 'heavy archaeological work there'.

The Romans destroyed the second temple, not the muslims.

[fresh flower]

Nobu you fr gotta learn your religion this is embarassing

[fervent oxide]

Noooooooooooo

[river token]

So, you can't even pin the blame to Islam.

[fervent oxide]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[fresh flower]

Idgaf who you affirm, synagogues aren't sacred in Christianity. Important and sacred isn't the same thing

[cerulean pivot]

Source

Trust me bro

[river token]

It is a place of community gatherings and worship, not a temple.

Learn the difference, google is free.

You said there is "heavy archaeological work there" so there must be some proof for your claim?

[cerulean pivot]

Why the modern secular isreal government didn't allow y'all to discover them

[river token]

Temple is a place of sacrifices and highest rituals while synagogues are a place where jews gather to pray.

Jews believe the both to be different, I don't see why your opinion matters.

[cerulean pivot]

I mean y'all digged in every piece on earth for something much less important

[fresh flower]

Nobu is only knowledgeable when it comes to Islam idk why he chose Christianity

[cerulean pivot]

[river token]

Yeah, source?

[cerulean pivot]

Who's nobu bro

[fresh flower]

Bro's confusing temple and synagogue, sacred and important

[river token]

I believe I would know.

[fresh flower]

Khyah

[cerulean pivot]

.

[river token]

No, actual commendable news network.

[fresh flower]

Just go on youtube bro

[cerulean pivot]

White boys when there's a 3h video assay

[fresh flower]

I got done with a 4 hour one yesterday 💀

[river token]

Yeah? That's literally what I said by Temples being the place of "highest rituals and worship".

You're equating two different things.

[cerulean pivot]

Splendid

[fresh flower]

Temples aren't sacred in Christianity

[cerulean pivot]

Is it necessary or just like ( it's nice to have it )

[fresh flower]

This guy knows fuckall about his religion

If a temple or synagogue is sacred for you then so is a mosque

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh i mean in modern terms

[fresh flower]

You don't know your religion 💀

[cerulean pivot]

Alright
So why y'all are not doing shit about it

[river token]

We believe the Temple's role was fulfilled, and that the church institution replaced temples. Our doctrines typically view the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD as a sign that the old covenant sacrificial system was replaced by the new covenant, where worship is offered in spirit and truth.

[fresh flower]

What do you mean by we

[cerulean pivot]

Ohh limme repeat it
Why y'all ( christians) let the (jews and Muslims) take control of your sacred place when obviously u have the upper hand in modern terms

[river token]

The Christians...

[fresh flower]

What

I thought you were a stinky atheist mb

[cerulean pivot]

If it's that important ig they will do something

[fresh flower]

Your server tag is him

[cerulean pivot]

The temple like thing u talking about

[river token]

No. There's no proof other than conspiracies.

[cerulean pivot]

And the things that are inside it

Ohh mb
God known y'all are lazy asses to do it

Dig it twin

[river token]

Some believe it is in Ethiopia, some say it was looted by babylonians, some say it is Jordan.

Of course, some say it is under Temple mount.

[cerulean pivot]

Why your Jewish friends ain't let u to know the hidden stuff

[river token]

Some say it is housed in Lateran Palace.

[cerulean pivot]

They killed most of them
I don't think it's that big of a deal if they commit such a thing

They did what is worse already

Muslims in palastine!

Do u think gulf Muslims would care about that

[river token]

Also, literally why are we discussing importance of the temple when you said a Church should be there in the place of Al Aqsa mosque.

It doesn't make sense.

Temple's role was fulfilled and Christians already have Church of the Holy Sepulchre, so, christianity does not require that site for worship.

Why would you destroy a historical site for "funsies"? Or to get the ark that isn't even confirmed to be there?

[high raven]

You misunderstood, it's just because he hates Muslims

[plush phoenix]

who hates muslims

[fresh flower]

This is literally just it

[fresh flower]

@verbal drift

Easter just passed bro don't lie

Of course you don't, filthy baptist

You're more Muslim than Christian

[trail plank]

Huh??
But that arabic in your name.....

[fresh flower]

You didn't even fast did you

You're not, the Jew mods in ask a Christian might say so but you're not

[river token]

Do you celebrate "resurrection Sunday"?

[fresh flower]

It's to make fun of Muslims

His entire persona revolves around it

You didn't fast for 40 days

[trail plank]

It basically means
May Allah honour him and grant him peace....

I'm very much confused

[river token]

Huh...

[fresh flower]

Why are you lying

There's literally 2 of them

[river token]

It's just another term for Easter.

[trail plank]

But you said you are christian.
Shouldn't it be "Jesus" (peace be upon him) for you?

[river token]

So do you seriously not celebrate easter at all?

I get "we appreciate resurrection of Jesus every day", but do you celebrate Resurrection Sunday or not?

[trail plank]

But you are asking peace from Allah

New way of deluluness
Damm
Hope you get better soon
I'm out

[high raven]

Lukewarm Christians, like Baptists and evangelical Protestants, follow sola scriptura, they avoid traditions so it enables them to do the bare minimum

[river token]

Ah so you're one of those that observe only Palm Sunday and advent?

[trail plank]

May Allah guide you to the right path then.
I wish you the best
Farewell

[high raven]

They observe neither of those lol

[trail plank]

Intentions matter more.
Not like you can change what I think or make me question my own beliefs.

Already done it and I'm very much clear on what I believe

[fervent oxide]

I am happy and proud that I live in such place

[trail plank]

To answer an ex muslim, I don't think I'm that knowledgeable. I'm learning it myself. They should talk to a scholar if they want

[fervent oxide]

My neighborhood

[trail plank]

Damnnn
Look so pretty

You can ask
Idk if I will have answers to it or not.
But I can search and discuss with people of more knowledge

[high raven]

It's a very white area

[alpine hare]

Very serious

Go to work y unemployed poor guys

[trail plank]

Tougher questions and questions that don't make sense at all are different things.

[fresh flower]

This guy is a creep towards women btw avoid him

Jesus told me to warn others of dangers and sin

I know everything

[fervent oxide]

Why can’t I use my stick to force somebody work to make it better for me

[river token]

Do you go to a church that follows RPW interpretation or something?

[fresh flower]

My knowledge is only surpassed by Allah SWT

[fervent oxide]

1800s, Confederate States of America

What a dream place

[river token]

Regulative principle of worship or like only doing in worship whats clearly commanded in the Bible/rejecting lutheran traditions.

[fresh flower]

@shy summit Yo your boy dreaming about owning black slaves

Save him💀💀💀

[river token]

Or like is it because you believe we don't know the correct dates of when the birth, death, or resurrection of Christ happened and that the dates are arbitrary?

[fervent oxide]

😭 I didn’t say that

[river token]

Oh...

Strange.

[trail plank]

Do you mind if I discuss it later?
Rn I have things to do.

[cerulean pivot]

Isn't that heresy

[river token]

Nobody forgets about it. What are you saying? 😭

[fresh flower]

Wtf Zazu talked to me about this is this a meme now 💀

[cerulean pivot]

Bro's basically a salafi

[cerulean pivot]

My deepest condolences

[fresh flower]

Happened just once to me

It's not common anymore

[fervent oxide]

worse than being a landowner few hundred years ago

at least landowner are patriotics

[river token]

It's not a ritual, it's just sacred days in Christian calenders and tradition.

[high raven]

You're into slavery now?

[fervent oxide]

that's not slavery, that's reform through labor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-education_through_labor

[high raven]

This is slavery

[river token]

I thought it's just because you reject non Baptist traditions, to be fair.

[fervent oxide]

wdym, that lifetime contract literally exists in modern society

[high raven]

If it was a contract between the worker and the employer it wouldn't be called slavery

[fervent oxide]

it is a contract but with some violation punishment once you break it

[high raven]

What's the schtick now? That slavery was just regular employment with punishment if you break it?

[fervent oxide]

it is not slavery because there was a contract

but you have to sign it anyway

[high raven]

That's not how it works

[frigid crown]

I think that's almost similar to "As long as there is contract, it's legal." (Apologies to misinterpret in advance.)

[fresh flower]

Wrap it up bro

[fervent oxide]

if it is legal under the law and it can be taken in effect

[frigid crown]

Hmm, alright.

Still, I don't think it's considered universal.

But despite that, I acknowledge your proposition.

[river token]

@high raven Pete Hegseth quoted fake bible verse from the movie Pulp fiction in Pentagon prayer. 😭

"The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty, shepherd the lost through the valley of darkness... I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger...".

Are these guys even christian? 😭

[empty plaza]

Pulp fiction reference in the Whitehouse

Onion writers WISH they can make up better stories

[river token]

I don't know about Ask A Christian VC, but Trump's "Evangelical" cabinet is looking SO suspicious right now. 😭 No way these guys are Christian.

[river token]

He was probably trying to quote the Ezekiel verse, but he ended up using a movie dialogue. That's just so stupid. 😭

[plain ruin]

They ought to be renamed "Ask An Islamophobe"

[shell hemlock]

You’re a Nepali

Christians get persecuted where you’re from

[fallow shard]

[hidden shore]

Indian train , it is so

So smelly

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

This is peak masculinity btw

[fresh flower]

YOOOOOOOOOO

Ts like Christmas for me

[hidden shore]

🤯🤯 his foot never wash or

[fresh flower]

@plain ruin You gotta see this

These are real men you're a closeted homosexual if you see something wrong with it

[broken lark]

Even their phones are almost the same color

[fresh flower]

There's nothing more manly than laying in your bros lap and trusting that he won't pop a semi

Bro went to a developing country and is suprised that there are people that are poor

Next episode: McDonald's sells hamburgers

[hidden shore]

Nahh india superpower

You can not say it is a developing country

[high raven]

I saw that! They're genuinely weird over there

[shell hemlock]

Sure

[high raven]

How are you so comfortable taking photos of random people

Oh deleted

[fresh flower]

Best part is mods deleted the photos but left the feet one

They're just like me fr

[cerulean pivot]

Exactly lol

[shell hemlock]

Indians maybe don’t want to beat the stereotype

[cerulean pivot]

Told him several times

[hidden shore]

Indian river 🤯

Weirdo

A guy showing his favorite corn star to me

On the train

Showing the White girl and he said she looks like me 🤯

[plain ruin]

Reminds me of him...

[viral lintel]

i think we wants to 🔞

[hidden shore]

Nahh, i was trying to take the photo that he showed corn video

And then he found out that, that is how I deleted it

[hidden shore]

Anyway tho weirdo

[hidden shore]

Okay

[viscid elbow]

[hidden shore]

Yeah the picture was taken in the last night

[shell hemlock]

Why are you unironically traveling to India

[hidden shore]

There’s a lot unexpected things i like it here

[shell hemlock]

I’m a female solo traveler I would never go there

Even Afghanistan probably safer

[viral lintel]

feet

[thorny steeple]

If you don't talk on vc does it levels you up anyway?

[crystal kayak]

@pseudo flume

And you loved going by train

[uncut tiger]

@hidden shore dude r u a tourist in india

[sweet wolf]

he's waiting for you

he knows you like them with seasoning

[sweet wolf]

Non zero chance that's carpe

[crystal kayak]

Brother you are the weirdo,why are you taking photos of random people' feet while they are sleeping 😭

[pseudo flume]

Looks alright to me

[sweet wolf]

his camera films struggle not context

[pseudo flume]

Dude why are you travelling on general coach, get reservation n shi

Otherwise you'd melt in this heat

[uncut tiger]

SHABBAT SHALOM

[pseudo flume]

Waiting for sunset

[crystal kayak]

He didn't say it is dirty,he said it stank

[uncut tiger]

to go fishing?

[pseudo flume]

Yes, it does
Usually 2nd class and 1st class are alright, and it doesn't smell

[crystal kayak]

Imagine if he was caught taking that feet pic

[pseudo flume]

I was doom scrolling reels about fishing on insta lmao, does it count

[uncut tiger]

i deleted insta cuz of workload, but i hope you didnt stop sending me gay reels

[sweet wolf]

he might wake up with a foot in his mouth because the guy saw it as an advance

[pseudo flume]

Workload?? Dude taking a shower doesn't count as workload

[pseudo flume]

This is definitely Mumbai, Dharavi

[sweet wolf]

he's in delhi i think

[uncut tiger]

i take bath

[pseudo flume]

In cloth rensing tub?

[sweet wolf]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kitten-71

Me going to sleep after not being born in delhi

[pseudo flume]

Now he's in Mumbai

[sweet wolf]

Me going to sleep after not being born in mumbai

[uncut tiger]

dont project ur childhood trauma on me bihari

[sick bronze]

Hegseth using a proverb from the Bible during his speech taken from a movie, which is made up lol

[pseudo flume]

You guys don't even have a bath tub

[pseudo flume]

Pulp fiction

[uncut tiger]

i got a job

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205990758348230666/1345143370481401966/attachment.gif

[sweet wolf]

both of you are fighting for using the same bathtub

[uncut tiger]

im working for the mossad

[sweet wolf]

take a bath with each other atp

one ensures the other is clean

[pseudo flume]

I don't want made in pakistan bathbombs

[sweet wolf]

what servers are those

[uncut tiger]

whats a bathbomb

ive never used it

[pseudo flume]

Local puncture shop?

[cerulean pivot]

No way

[uncut tiger]

but i heard there is a belle delphine bath bomb

[uncut tiger]

mf see the gif below that

[crystal kayak]

@pseudo flume do Indians also have foot fetishes like the west

[sweet wolf]

they are pretty fun try them on a weekend

[cerulean pivot]

Diaz is a living proof

[pseudo flume]

Diaz is virus, he ain't living

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah he's living on feet pics

[pseudo flume]

Usually fetishes doesn't have geographical boundaries

[hidden shore]

I went to ticket counter, he said there’s no business class in this station , no other ways, i just choice it

[sweet wolf]

fetishes transcend space and time

[uncut tiger]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YALL

yall are ALWAYS throwing my ass under the bus

[hidden shore]

Yes

[pseudo flume]

Yeah, it's general coach, you've to book in advance for AC reservation
Btw please never go to Bihar route on general coach

[pseudo flume]

@sweet wolf see, i know my slums

[sweet wolf]

https://klipy.com/gifs/speed-covering-mouth

wyd there

[cerulean pivot]

Maybe he can't afford that

[uncut tiger]

@pseudo flume is dis lilil guy a tourist i india

[crystal kayak]

This one does.

[sweet wolf]

good shot bhaiya

[cerulean pivot]

He'll visit Pakistan after that

Stay tuned

[sweet wolf]

he's going to give a verdict on which one was better and there's going to be war on this server after that

[pseudo flume]

Look at the difference between rich and poor

[cerulean pivot]

Ig He was sent there as a form of punishment for a crime or somthin

[sweet wolf]

i am on the right btw

[pseudo flume]

@hidden shore I bet you definitely feel the wealth inequality in india in Mumbai lol

[cerulean pivot]

Nobody's in his full mind visit this by choice

[crystal kayak]

Doesn't count because oli was the one that taught him this stuff

[cerulean pivot]

Swedish traditions

[pseudo flume]

Yes, officially 2 members of serious chat have visited my city so far, alhamdulillah

[pseudo flume]

People are fun, there's a guy named Aladdin, he steals chickens

[cerulean pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1363178802011701268.gif

[pseudo flume]

Chocolates from kids, and any iron object

[sweet wolf]

copper from govt installations

[hidden shore]

Well the dream of mumbai, that is indeed

[uncut tiger]

who

[hidden shore]

With allot of hopes

[pseudo flume]

Lillil and sanna

[hidden shore]

City of dream mumbai

I like it there

[pseudo flume]

City of joy is best

[uncut tiger]

tf was sanna doing there

[pseudo flume]

Probably converting poor hindus

[uncut tiger]

@high raven what crime were you convicted of

[cerulean pivot]

Being Lebanese

[hidden shore]

Especially Marine drive and juhu beach,These are the best places there

[plain ruin]

Aren't you forgetting someone

[plain ruin]

I'm reporting you to the electricity department aladdin

[sweet wolf]

Doubt it was even basmati

[sweet wolf]

they might hire him to steal so that they can leech off contracts

[pseudo flume]

You're indian

[hidden shore]

bihar route why

[pseudo flume]

Please don't

[sweet wolf]

they will hire you full time trust

[pseudo flume]

Yeah it looks great in evening

[pseudo flume]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DMm6fJ9RXUw/?

He's aladdin from the slums lillil visited

[hidden shore]

Interesting

[pseudo flume]

Train is always overcrowded and there's no room to breathe

[cerulean pivot]

Poor chick

[plain ruin]

You're bangladeshi

[hidden shore]

Crazy

[sweet wolf]

everyone here is akhand bharatia they just don't know it yet

[pseudo flume]

There aren't as many trains as it should be for 1.5 billion people, government is rebranding old trains into new expensive trains, it is comfortable but masses still can't afford it

Therefore we get overcrowding in affordable trains

[pseudo flume]

Atleast i don't got shagged by portugal

[shy summit]

What the fuck?

Bro that’s so fucking transparent….

[hidden shore]

Bro even 1st 2 st class trains often sold out quickly 😭

India should build more trains the country like china

[plain ruin]

I don't either, what's your point?

You breathe and you get shagged mate

[plain ruin]

They are, but there are only a few
The private luxury buses are still pretty affordable if you wanna go that route

[old plank]

Hello.

[hidden shore]

Buses are outdated

India is huge and has the largest population ,Bullet trains are more suitable and safer than buses

Even tho USA has no a bullet train, cuz the country small population doesn’t really rely on bullet trains

[plain ruin]

In India, they're the only option for decent travelling space/storage etc. if there aren't trains in that route

More privacy, better air conditioning, more space than trains

[pseudo flume]

Kolkata metro and Delhi metro is best

[plain ruin]

Specifically the sleeper buses^ though

[plain ruin]

I know what you're doing in the Delhi metro mate

[pseudo flume]

I loathe busses, not enough space to move around

[plain ruin]

Diaz would try to make Karachi metro more famous for that than the Delhi metro

[plain ruin]

It depends on the journey, if you're going to mostly be sleeping through it, it doesn't really matter

[pseudo flume]

Pakistan could never top delhi metro

[plain ruin]

So you're saying they'll bottom delhi metro? 🤔😱

[hidden shore]

That is true

And when i want to fucking to pee like emergency

[plain ruin]

@tiny bluff can write some yaoi for delhi metro

[hidden shore]

That is crazy

[plain ruin]

Atleast Modi government is not ageist

🙏

[pseudo flume]

Yeah, their leaders often touch minors

[pseudo flume]

Yes, it's like a cage

Motorcycle is best

If i could i would take it everywhere

[plain ruin]

So much equality, all the people are always talking bad about Modi 🤬 😢 😓

[hidden shore]

Delhi metro

[pseudo flume]

Can't even flex about 4th largest economy anymore

[hidden shore]

These sights are pretty interesting, no splitting

[pseudo flume]

That guy should get minoxidil 10%

[hidden shore]

Typical Indian behaviour

[plain ruin]

You've not seen the no pissing ones yet?

[hidden shore]

no

[pseudo flume]

How about Kolkata metro

[plain ruin]

you have so much left to see bro

[hidden shore]

No i haven’t been there yet

[hidden shore]

Next time

Bro don’t say i am always showing the bad side of india

I am just showing the reality

In India, most land is privately owned, which is much more interesting

[fervent oxide]

some of your southern state even now would have some confederate attributives on their flags

[shy summit]

What was the one difference the Confederate States had from the North

[rain lava]

Did i saw diarhhea

[hidden shore]

Yes someone who

Who got diarrhoea and started the emergency

[rain lava]

Whos shitting did you saw rhis irl where u get this

[hidden shore]

When I reached there, the person already finished and running away

[fervent oxide]

Abraham Lincoln

[shy summit]

Try again

[fervent oxide]

it is not something obvious right ?

like slavery

[shy summit]

It is

Like that’s the one differentiation in it’s constitution

[fervent oxide]

but there was a long history that North would also have slavery institutions

[shy summit]

Yeah except they ended it, and the whole reason the south tried and failed to leave was because they wanted to keep it.

You realize that Slavery is the hallmark of conservatism right?

[fervent oxide]

if you do consider modern slavery as a part of it

I would say some theory of saying forced work in prison as modern slavery is full of crap

[shy summit]

Modern slavery is the use of the prison system to disproportionately lock up people of color.

[fervent oxide]

slavery is very very far beyond just force people to do something

[shy summit]

Yeah it’s about using the law to deny full rights to people

[fervent oxide]

US immigration detention centers ? our reeducation camps ? put that in equation you will get the result they are all slavery institutions

[shy summit]

All equally evil

[fervent oxide]

not really dude, slavery was considered implemented when people were treated like properties

[shy summit]

It’s about dehumanization, stripping humanity away from people. Why do you think they have to lie and say that anyone detained by ICE is a criminal when 98% are innocent people.

The idea that a Felon cannot vote but felony laws are directed at black people.

[fervent oxide]

I'm not even defending ICE at this point, detention centers really had a very long history that usually have very bad living conditions

our reeducation camps I think I have explained it pretty well how it works

I would say people would rather to stay in camps than go to your country's detention center

that detention center is really killing a person, physically and psychologically

a lot of people choose to deport themselves, even you got the record that even people who were waiting to defend themselves in court would give up because the life in detention centers is making them like living in the hell

[fervent oxide]

that is not relevant to slavery, that's discrimination and racism

slavery is when you treat people like properties, buy & sell them like other commodity

[shy summit]

Slavery is rooted in discrimination and ethnic supremacy

Where do you think the word slave comes from

It comes from a particular ethnicity

Slav

As in slavic

[fervent oxide]

we abolished slavery before 0 BC

c. 1046 BC to be specific

and I don't think that modern slavery really exists

[shy summit]

If I look this up and it turns out this is not the case. You’re gonna look like a BIG ass. So if you wanna take this back now, do so.

[fervent oxide]

you can check it up, by official law we abolished it since the Zhou Dynasty

Zhou Dynasty ended slavery rule of Shang

[shy summit]

@fervent oxide

You’re about 2000 years off

[fervent oxide]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_China

by official law it is after the Zhou

but it happened in civilian area so it's not so entirely

[shy summit]

“Slavery was nominally abolished in 1910-“

[fervent oxide]

but we abolished slavery institutions, slavery armies etc.

[shy summit]

Your own source is fucking you harder than Mia Kalifa

[fervent oxide]

no, just think we had slavery till today if you count reeducation camps

and you guys are also a slavery state

[shy summit]

Oh you still have slavery in some form. 100%

same with the us

[mystic bay]

What about people owning slaves belonging to their own race?

[fervent oxide]

you guys had it too

detention centers, CIA secret prison

[shy summit]

Yeah except I specifically argue against it, you argue for it.

[mystic bay]

Jury duty is slavery

[shy summit]

PJ get the carrot out your ass

[fervent oxide]

LMFAO

that's not mine

[fervent oxide]

I argue that we both aren't slave states

[shy summit]

I disagree.

[fervent oxide]

these prison or camps were for maintaining the national security

[shy summit]

Both our countries systemically target minorities and strip them of their humanity

[mystic bay]

What on earth does that mean

[fervent oxide]

💀

I didn't expect you would ask

[shy summit]

Idk it sounded like a funny way of saying yous trollin a lil

[mystic bay]

Am I wrong?

[shy summit]

Jury duty is not mandatory in the same sense

[mystic bay]

In what sense is it not mandatory?

[shy summit]

You can just say “can’t make it” and they’re like “okay”

[mystic bay]

You need a special exemption though

[shy summit]

Not really

[fervent oxide]

it should be mandatory to bow once you see the portrait of the leader

[mystic bay]

It's not simply opt-out

[fervent oxide]

both in US and China

[shy summit]

You request it but you can just say I’m not gonna be in town

[mystic bay]

Maybe in your country

[shy summit]

We do not give allegiance to our leader. Our duty is to the republic and democracy and to the constitution.

[mystic bay]

Bleh

Democracy is gross

Governance by busybodies

[fervent oxide]

it's just not the time, Weimar Republic is also a republic and democracy

[mystic bay]

Let's give everyone a say over everyone else's business

[fervent oxide]

a republic can be overturned, democracy could be abolished

[shy summit]

Now SOME people like @fervent oxide Have no problem taking the Dic out of Dictatorship and shoving it up their own ass

[fervent oxide]

you have see the rise of the right in your eyes these years

[shy summit]

And it’s collapse

[fervent oxide]

in Russia, Germany, US, Republican, Afd, even Japan

[shy summit]

Yeah, the AFD got clapped, Japan has reverted and Germany said “hell no”. Turkey overturned their despot, and the US is seeing a complete collapse of it’s conservative party.

[mystic bay]

Stop with the sodomy jokes

They're in poor taste

[shy summit]

Butt their funny,

[fervent oxide]

even antifa is a terrorist fascist organization now

[mystic bay]

They're