🧠｜serious-chat

[rain kernel]

Who hurt you so much?

[glad trail]

Everyone is going to die anyways haha

[rain kernel]

Facts

[glad trail]

And men as race are going to be extinct anyways

[fluid prawn]

How very Dutch of you

[lusty zenith]

omg Nav. I'm just modern, that's all

[glad trail]

Haha

[fluid prawn]

Meanwhile Dutch people get called stingy for it, why can't we be "modern" 😹

[glad trail]

They are so chill haha

[fresh flower]

Deranged if it's a combined bill

No one is going to sit there and do maths

[lusty zenith]

oh really. I thought for most of Europe it's like that

[lusty zenith]

maybe not where you're from

[fresh flower]

Are you a Jew or something because I've never heard of this happening irl, just in memes

[lusty zenith]

no I'm Asian

[coral jetty]

hey

[lusty zenith]

the European mind can never understand it

[glad trail]

Haha

[fluid prawn]

Where do you think Dutch people live...?

[fresh flower]

Sorry to hear that, but still, counting what everyone ordered during a date is wild

[fluid prawn]

That's not what she is saying

Here it's mostly something you do afterwards, we have this system where you can easily send a payment request

Not at the table while the waiter is waiting

[lusty zenith]

yes that

[fresh flower]

We have this too but that's just crazy to me, for me it's either one pays or 50/50

[fluid prawn]

I agree with the 50/50, personally don't do the exact amount or anything

But I do understand it if someone orders a while lot and the other barely anything

[high rapids]

50/50 on at date

[fresh flower]

We need to BAN dating apps

[fluid prawn]

I'm talking about eating with a friend, I don't go on dates 😂

[high rapids]

oh

[rain kernel]

Is it in only my country that everyone tries to pay everything fully?

[lusty zenith]

different cultures. I don't think that's a bad thing. It's just not what I would do or want someone to do for me

[fresh flower]

It's the same here bro, at least with younger people

[rain kernel]

No here with especially elders

[fresh flower]

It's flipped in Sweden, the boomers are the ones calculating what the other ordered

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-and-love-shirtless-zhao-zhao-mu-mu-speedlove1234-gif-14655541679258220292

[fresh flower]

What

[cerulean pivot]

Dawg once my friend and i went to a luxury place by accident
We split every penny even the water bottles cost

[fluid prawn]

[cerulean pivot]

We ordered one bottle

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-and-love-zhao-zhao-mu-mu-shirtless-sexy-gif-2005253569589553558

[lusty zenith]

what cringe shite is this

[cerulean pivot]

Denial is this your fetish

[high rapids]

na

[cerulean pivot]

You've been sending it everyday nonstop

[fresh flower]

Denial is ovulating

[lusty zenith]

did you measure how much water each person drank lol

[cerulean pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187417264497098884/1299021856589746218/attachment.gif

[fresh flower]

Back in Saddams time we didn't have to do this 💔💔💔

[cerulean pivot]

We didn't afford eating at restaurants 😔

[high rapids]

They probably went to the toilet to refill the bottle

[sturdy minnow]

hii

[lusty zenith]

what does this mean

[fluid prawn]

Saying it's a Jewish thing to do

[lusty zenith]

ohhhh. I guess jew is the new n word now, the way it's being used

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-sure-you-sure-about-that-dog-watching-gif-26139783

[cerulean pivot]

Hi nobu

[pseudo flume]

[uncut tiger]

look who got fired today

[lusty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

oh I thought you got fired. Nevermind

[high rapids]

you

[uncut tiger]

hyd kim

[lusty zenith]

thinking about sleep. What about you

[uncut tiger]

same same

[lusty zenith]

replying after 10 minutes. Get outta here and never talk to me again

[high rapids]

[high rapids]

@high raven Are you awake?

[uncut tiger]

im sorry dude

[nimble yoke]

Hookup what mean ??

[high rapids]

Passion

[velvet tiger]

like have passion

[minor magnet]

Hey everyone
I’m bored af
Do you play Fortnite, Call of Duty, Siege, Rpg, or Minecraft, PUBG? DM/Add me

[sharp crater]

Yo

[high rapids]

yo how are you

[manic juniper]

Club Penguin

[high rapids]

Hello Isfrun long time no see!!!! How are you

[opal garnet]

Any INFJ?

[languid mango]

Nope

[thorny steeple]

seriously gay chat

[sharp crater]

Great as usual

[sharp crater]

How did you know????

[serene moss]

My mind is so heavy... It's very hard for me to live each day due to my mistakes in the past. My mind is very disturbed for years now. I've been fighting for each day. I'm really tired.

[sharp crater]

Are you ok? What happened?

[serene moss]

I'm not ok, for years now.

[sharp crater]

Tell me

Maybe it’ll get lighter

[frozen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-bears-cry-tears-stop-crying-gif-13093760

[quartz comet]

Hi

[royal sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-is-a-nerd-your-a-nerd-you-rn-you-right-now-nerd-gif-10205297697846115842

[zinc patio]

No one serious?

[sharp crater]

Yo

[zinc patio]

[sharp crater]

I have two cats

Just give up

[flat vault]

i hate cats

[wicked flax]

No gravity? 😱

[zinc patio]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/852805796789354496

[wicked flax]

💯%, they just discuss about the most useless topics

[sharp crater]

Ah???

[zinc patio]

You are dating

[sharp crater]

????

[zinc patio]

Nvm

[sharp crater]

.-.

[wicked flax]

Is there anyone from Germany?

Anyone to educate me about German etymology for my exam?

[fervent oxide]

https://x.com/karamar111/status/2043779854458597620?s=46

🇺🇸StormyBotK🥓 (@KaraMar111)

STOP TRUMP FROM STEALING 2026!
Dems: Do the right thing!

X · Apr 13, 2026, 7:54 PM

There should be no more immigrants ever into the United States of America

[uncut tiger]

I thought you supported trump

[wicked flax]

The war of Iran and the US was lucrative for me!!! 🤑 🔥

[fervent oxide]

Voter ID is supported by Republicans

[wicked flax]

I invested $10K into NASDAQ and made
+$5K!

[fervent oxide]

democrats would fear their cheat of using illegals to vote in election would leak out

[fervent oxide]

that's pretty good but not good enough

[wicked flax]

Bro....

The wars are beneficial for us.

We make a lot during that time.

That's why I always keep an eye on news.

[turbid pivot]

this was made by a 70 yo

[hidden shore]

wait

https://newatlas.com/architecture/line-february-2026-update-redesign/

middle easterns want to build the line by 2030

all the people wil be living in the line interesting project

[fringe temple]

Wasn't it shortened by half lol

It's not gonna be as long as they first wanted it to be

[hidden shore]

it is easy to bomb in that line if the war ever happend

😭

[fringe temple]

The line will turn into an autobot and start deflecting the missiles

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-gif-8392860725193183314

[fervent oxide]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6fjpu93vJh8?si=JRXezKOUuozW2uqS

He’s really wrong on this one

[frozen cape]

more money than sense

[fervent oxide]

It is absolutely necessary to do a full regime change against Iran with all measure that is possible

[hidden shore]

turn into autobot, why instead of allah comes to help

[hidden shore]

no oil no problem, no mosque no problem , no money is a big problem

[near blaze]

No money is anti life

[wicked flax]

Why did you edit that, mate?

The unedited version was good.

[hidden shore]

Cuz i am talking about middle east stereotypes

[near blaze]

He got brainwashed in 5 seconds

[wicked flax]

OK, bro...

[near blaze]

Nahh

[hidden shore]

why you are so mean to me 😭

[near blaze]

That's not mean!!

[turbid dome]

What

[viral lintel]

she fancy u

[minor magnet]

Hey
Who’s up
Bored
Can’t sleep
Add me/DM

[hidden shore]

You also fancy me

[viral lintel]

youre dreaming

[fervent oxide]

bro

😭

[fresh flower]

3 rice eaters walk into a bar

[sick bronze]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ningning-aespa-46

[sweet wolf]

Ping me when 3 ass eaters walk into the bar

[steel folio]

Gross

[sweet wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278418099657248931/1488914259802062898/Screen_Recording_20260401_202210_Instagram.gif

[frosty goblet]

What would you advise me, someone living with depression and OCD at the age of 26, to get better to survive or to thrive in this world?

[fervent oxide]

send him to military and fight in Iran

fight for the freedom of the American nation

one of the greatest glorious thing to do

[scenic mirage]

wsp

[steady stirrup]

Hi

[steady stirrup]

But that's not fun without a ground operation

[fringe turtle]

who needs a ground operation when you can have an air dogfight

[steady stirrup]

But the us air force is still an elite club(as well as all countries' air forces) but we need something we can afford

I think god doesn't exist

There's a lot of lies, but only one truth.

[fringe turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1367799103354044446

Dont take the scripture out of context

[steady stirrup]

We have tons of gods, but only one atheism

[fringe turtle]

go ask the muslims that know better than me, im a student of knowledge that cant tell you precisely. But I can confidently say that u took this out of contect

How is god the biggest deciever but also the guider?

go ask the Well knowladgable muslims

he has a name for that

Al-Haadi

ٱلْهَادِي

HE HAS IT IN THE ASMA WA ASSIFFAT

THE NAMES OF ALLAH, THE ATTRIBUTES

ITS A PART OF TAWHID(THE ONENESS OF GOD)

and ur saying hes a deceiver, is he?

check ur own statement

Allah is not even a he, we dont know

show me the evidence

Allah

Alright, do you know that tawhid is a pillar of islam?

In tawhid we have asma wa assiffat, if u take the quran into context then u must take the names in as well

[viscid pagoda]

Hello everyone my name is Fanta am from Gambia 🇬🇲

We need your support

[fringe turtle]

what

dont u disrespect my relegion

[viscid pagoda]

We are very hungry right now

[north sapphire]

Surah Al-Ankaboot (The Spider)

29:69

And those who strive for Us - We will surely guide them to Our ways.¹ And indeed, Allāh is with the doers of good.

Translation: Saheeh International | Meccan ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ [1] The various ways and means to attain the acceptance and pleasure of Allāh.

[fringe turtle]

explain this if allah is the deceiver

does the verse i gave u say that as well

[viscid pagoda]

Just forget about him bro

[north sapphire]

Surah Aal-i-Imraan (The Family of Imraan)

3:45

[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allāh gives you good tidings of a word¹ from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allāh].

Translation: Saheeh International | Medinan ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ [1] See footnote to 3:39

[fringe turtle]

show me

[fringe turtle]

DUDE HE DOESNT BELIEVE

[viscid pagoda]

Hey stop what u are doing

[north sapphire]

Surah Aal-i-Imraan (The Family of Imraan)

3:54

And they [i.e., the disbelievers] planned, but Allāh planned. And Allāh is the best of planners.

Translation: Saheeh International | Medinan

Surah Aal-i-Imraan (The Family of Imraan)

3:50

And [I have come] confirming what was before me of the Torah and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear Allāh and obey me.

3:51

Indeed, Allāh is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is the straight path.'"

3:52

But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, "Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allāh?" The disciples said, "We are supporters for Allāh. We have believed in Allāh and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].

3:53

Our Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and have followed the messenger [i.e., Jesus], so register us among the witnesses [to truth]."

3:54

And they [i.e., the disbelievers] planned, but Allāh planned. And Allāh is the best of planners.

Translation: Saheeh International | Medinan

Surah Ash-Shura (Consultation)

42:11

[He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him,¹ and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.²

Translation: Saheeh International | Meccan ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ [1] There is no similarity whatsoever between the Creator and His creation in essence, in attributes or in deed. [2] See footnotes to 17:1.

[steady stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-bored-boring-boring-meeting-resident-sleeper-gif-14959094345646106757

To prove some guy's words are wrong, you use another guy's words.

Why if someone wrote " god walks upside down" two thousand years ago, you suddenly believe it and use it as some kind of concrete proof

[steel folio]

Islam suffers enough without you bullying them😭

[steady stirrup]

What if I say
1.2 :"god does not eat watermelons"

I think this is pretty much the same

Of course, we need to wrap my words in a fancy package so it will look really serious

[fringe turtle]

check the tafsir (interpretation)

we dont care what u interpret

[steel folio]

Wears sunglasses and a hawaiian shirt

[fringe turtle]

no

im a sunni thats a muslim

[plain ruin]

Nobu back at it again

[steady stirrup]

Guys, if there's a god, why are you always so uncertain. Looks like you're not sure

[fringe turtle]

https://hamariweb.com/islam/hadith/sunan-abu-dawood-4090/

[fringe turtle]

symbolic, not actual clothes

ahlul sunnah wal jama'ah

are you christian

[steel folio]

Why would God wear clothes. Genuine question

[steel folio]

Weren't clothes created by humans

[fringe turtle]

John 19:23-24

why did god wear clothes

[fringe turtle]

its symbolic (2nd time i repeated)

[steel folio]

Aren't they all the same god

[steady stirrup]

As well as gods

[steel folio]

Can you explain what you mean

[fringe turtle]

IM AHLUL SUNNAH U FOOL

[steel folio]

I'm like pretty sure Islam Jewish and Christianity is the same God with different belief systems

[fringe turtle]

https://fitrahtawheed.com/ahlu-sunnah-wal-jamaah#:~:text=of Imam Lalikaee)-,The%20followers%20of%20Ahl%20al%2DSunnah%20wal%20Jama'ah,is%20known%20as%20a%20Salafi.

im getting educated by a christian, wow

[celest wedge]

there are some similarities but nope

[fringe turtle]

same god, corruption in the jewish law

[hidden shore]

Bro you used to flirt with me, now it is over now😭

[steel folio]

Different belief systems* but thanks for confirming

[obtuse isle]

A chriatian is saying that is funny. Your god commanded to wipe out a complete nations including infants. Donkeys.

Your god is a true demon💀

[torpid ingot]

hey guys

[celest wedge]

can everyone chill out and speak respectfully

[steady stirrup]

How do you know that those gods are not the same if you don't even know about god itself. Did god tell you that he is not Christian and Jewish god as well?

[obtuse isle]

Your god is Obsessed with killing infants and animals

[fringe turtle]

Your god got crucified, the "all powerful"

[steel folio]

It's all the same. Abrahamic religion

[fringe turtle]

akhi im ahlul sunnah

[obtuse isle]

Show me any verse in the quran which commands to wipe out a complete nations including infants, donkeys women

Except that where allah commanded to a kill an evil child

[fringe turtle]

Sure, you can say im "athari". I just follow the quran and the sunnah

[celest wedge]

it's simple but requires a kinda' long explanation and some people are debating about something else. so can we move this conversation to somewhere else?

[obtuse isle]

Bros probably gonna pick up the verse which says allah have hands😭 without even knowing the context

[fringe turtle]

Ur "god" had a mother

god has a mother?

U follow 3 gods

[obtuse isle]

A virgin mother💀

[fringe turtle]

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1744b

[obtuse isle]

Do you even know the context bruh. This hadith is easy to debunked. They are specifically talking about if they ki*l any children in the night accidently. This was not a command from God

[fringe turtle]

virgin, she still gave birth

to a "god"

[steel folio]

Its not 3 Gods

[fringe turtle]

alright, ur god became creation itself

[steel folio]

It's one God in 3 parts

[celest wedge]

I'm a muslim but I'll help you to understand the trinity. their god is 1 in being but 3 in person / roles.

[fringe turtle]

"son, father, holyspirit"

[plain ruin]

Bro has forgotten what Jesus wore

[fringe turtle]

its not shampoo, 3 in 1 doesnt exist

[wicked flax]

Jesus in not a god.

[celest wedge]

it's not 3 in 1

[fringe turtle]

Allah stayed a divine entity, we dont know that

But its something not mentioned

[steel folio]

Depends on your religion

[wicked flax]

He's the son of the god.

[smoky dock]

coz hes NOT

[fringe turtle]

Akhi I understand your interpretation, but its still as "3" gods

[celest wedge]

just for context, I'm not backing them up. I'm just explaining what trinity means.

[obtuse isle]

I suggest u to read the full context akhi😭. Even though I told u they were referring if they killed any children in the night time by mistake. This is already got debunked by so many scholars in debate. Your favorite "bob" used a same hadith against a muslim but he got cooked

[fringe turtle]

akhi al kareem, i understand your intention

barakallahu fik

[smoky dock]

God does not have a son either.

[fringe turtle]

as i said, symbolic

[celest wedge]

it requires a bit mental gymnastics to understand but I hope one day you'll understand it.

[wicked flax]

No!

[fringe turtle]

its in kitab al libas

[steel folio]

Which is a part of the whole being of God

[wicked flax]

It belies on religions.

[obtuse isle]

Akhi i suggest u to stop bringing the same arguement again and again they are very weak im tried of this

[south sand]

Yo someone said Mohammed met satan that day disguised as an angel of light which lines up with the bible suggesting satan do this, biggest fraud of all time, do u agree with this

[smoky dock]

THE ONE AND ONLY GOD IS ALLAH, so worship him alone.

[fringe turtle]

thats the problem, if there was a divine scripture, it shouldve been obvious,clear and concise

bible has contradictions

[wicked flax]

Nature....

[fringe turtle]

@verbal drift its in kitab al libas

[wicked flax]

A creation of the god.

[obtuse isle]

Again read the context😭😭

[fringe turtle]

go look it up for urself

[obtuse isle]

This guy

[fringe turtle]

god is a son?

[wicked flax]

Biologically, yes..

[celest wedge]

help me to understand,

The company = god
The chairman = the father
The vice chairman = the holy spirit
the general manager = the son

is it like this?

p/s: I mean no offence. just trying to understand trinity.

[obtuse isle]

Cuz they accidently killed them. Their attention was not to. During night

[fringe turtle]

Clearly you dont understand the religion, you are ignorant. If you want to have a respectful and logical discussion then be my guest. Else shut up with ur misinformation. May allah guide you if Allah wills

[wicked flax]

We can also say that God doesn't exist.

[south sand]

Son

[fringe turtle]

My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, lets stop wasting our energy. This guy is a fool and got clapped by mu a long time ago. Barakallahu fik

[quasi needle]

You’re not a native change your role

https://tenor.com/view/brian-griffin-thinking-gif-12268318493156619732

[wicked flax]

In atheism

There are a lot of theories.

[steel folio]

From my understanding its more like this

God is 3 parts. No part is less than one another as they are all God.

The Father is the God in Heaven
The Son is God on earth
The Holy Spirit is the guide for humans

[wicked flax]

We don't know which one is true.

I believe in God but I don't follow any religion.

[south sand]

Ngl bro, at the least I’d believe in a higher creator

[quasi needle]

If people fall for modern conmen, let alone the Salem witches, why is it so hard to believe a single conman existed 2000 years ago

[wicked flax]

Only 1.

[steel folio]

Tbh I don't fully understand Holy spirit. Its kind of like what fuels belief

[wicked flax]

I believe in Karma though.

Because the creator can only be the one.

[celest wedge]

but from what I read (long time ago. I forgot the material already). It says that God as the father has more authority than god as the son.

[wicked flax]

Nah!

I don't follow any religion.

I don't think there are more than 1 gods.

According to my theory.

I can believe whatever I want

Okay, w8..

[south sand]

Stop tryna act smart bud no one really knows

[wicked flax]

Tell me one thing....

Scientifically, no..

[south sand]

A puny human in this vast universe, I don’t know

[wicked flax]

Religiously, yes...

[south sand]

Harry Potter exists book wise 🔥🔥

[celest wedge]

scientifically yes

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[wicked flax]

Science believes in the big bang theory.

Not the existence of the god

[south sand]

U can’t bang big without the banger 🔥🔥

[wicked flax]

That doesn't also mean that God exists.

[steel folio]

I don't think there's an explicit answer. As far as I'm aware it's not directly specified but the general belief (at least in Anglicanism) is that they're equal

[quasi needle]

Presuming god exists in the first place is the start of the delusion

You don’t start by disproving it you start by proving it

[south sand]

Bro Mario Judah

[celest wedge]

for a thing to 'exist' it needs to be in the dimension of time and space. so to say god exists is kinda weird because he's not tied to time and space. since he created time and space so he doesn't need time and space to 'exists'.

[south sand]

U adding ur own assumptions bud

What if bro don’t exist outside of time 🔥

[quasi needle]

God exists out of time and space because otherwise we can’t defend it

[south sand]

At all 🔥

[wicked flax]

No, scientifically it is because of the big bang explosion.

And it is due to the relativity of time.

That proves...

[celest wedge]

I see thank you. usually I listen to Nabeel Qureshi. In case if you know, is he a good preacher? can I trust him as a legit preacher?

[wicked flax]

The seismic waves.

[quasi needle]

We don’t know what caused the big bang so of course god woke up and made it rather than it being a quantum fluctuation

Entropy

[wicked flax]

The particles.

[quasi needle]

Go to science class bro I learnt this when I was 15

[wicked flax]

Yeah, the tides of entropy.

Not always. Particles are not always treated as matter. It depends on the type of particle.

[south sand]

How do u know it happens

[quasi needle]

The inertia of the universe increases entropy

[quasi needle]

Wdym by this

this is 9th grade science

[south sand]

How u know big bang happen

[steel folio]

I don't know him sorry

[tribal flower]

source: trust me

[wicked flax]

Electron, Proton, Neutron.

[south sand]

Was u there? Did u record it? No u recently spawned from ur dads ballsack

[wicked flax]

Yes!

[south sand]

No one truly knows

[tribal flower]

Agnosticism

[wicked flax]

The Big Bang was not an explosion in the usual sense. It was the rapid expansion of space itself

[quasi needle]

Redshift & CMB

[wicked flax]

Ok.

[quasi needle]

He’s being senselessly philosophical

We’re going round in a circle

[south sand]

Ok show me

[wicked flax]

Due to mass energy

Simple...

[celest wedge]

oh. alright then.

[wicked flax]

Extremely high energy in the early universe

Not actually.

Atoms & other elements also played a role there

You don't even know the basics

[celest wedge]

energy can't be destroyed right. it just changes its form. so, what was its form before it became massive enough to cause rapid expansion or big bang or whatever it is.

[quasi needle]

Quantum fluctuations during inflationary expansion generated initial density variations, which later served as gravitational seeds for cosmic structures, a theory confirmed by CMB measurements from COBE, WMAP and Planck, where they mapped temperature anisotropies in the early universe which gave statistical evidence that matches predictions of quantum driven inflation

[south sand]

Bro start of universe u think it higher power deh that create universe and its swimming is planets moving 🔥

[south sand]

None of this can be proved, hypothetical

[steel folio]

Tbh. All this happened long before we were born. And will last long after we are gone. The real question is why truly care about the origin of humanity.

[wicked flax]

The base form of energy was energy.

[south sand]

Sounding smart and using words ≠ truth assumptions

[quasi needle]

The highest level of scientific proof is a theory you melon

[quasi needle]

“Using words” when they’re the literal only words to describe it

[south sand]

Yet it proves nothing son, no one knows every word you copy and pasted or searched will not affect that no human knows what happened before 10000 years ago in earth or the universe

[quasi needle]

unless you want me to explain it to you like a fucking toddler bro

[south sand]

Sorry son it’s just how it is

[wicked flax]

Elections and protons.

[celest wedge]

what triggered the energy that brought them together and caused a rapid expansion

[quasi needle]

me when the theory matches all measurements but im too dense to understand how the theoretical science works

[wicked flax]

The mass energy bro

[steel folio]

We are going to die so just care about important things

[south sand]

And all that theory assumed is on a correct cosmological timeline following a chronological order, no one knows what coulda changed or happened billions of years through time sorry bud stop tryna sound smart

@quasi needle

[obtuse isle]

Again I said give me any verse or hadith where god is commanded to kill children, women. And the hadith u sent is not a command

[quasi needle]

you think the big bang if it happened just suddenly stopped or changed?

[tribal flower]

And also play games

[quasi needle]

you’re an idiot

I don’t know how it works so that means nobody knows how it works

[south sand]

No one knows, you will die and nothing will change still no one will know it’s better to waste time on trying to act smart

[quasi needle]

We have ourselves a genius

[south sand]

We all come and go focus on something useful, no one will truly know

[celest wedge]

explain to me like I'm a fool. how can mass energy caused a rapid expansion.

[quasi needle]

You sir have solved it all

[south sand]

No I have solved nothing no one knows

[quasi needle]

Congratulations

[steel folio]

TRUE

[quasi needle]

Collect your degree here

[obtuse isle]

Just answer me does in the hadith says god is commanding?

[south sand]

No degree just reality

[quasi needle]

👏

[wicked flax]

Wait....

[steel folio]

People die when they are killed

[celest wedge]

okayy

[south sand]

No matter the tech, math, and time that passes, further from the answer we will get, everyone learns it and dies with it but it’s never truly known, you can act on it but only assume, truth is just too far to grasp @quasi needle

[quasi needle]

I don’t want to know how anything works so that means it’s meaningless

[wicked flax]

A huge amount of energy existed at the start of the Big Bang.
According to General Relativity, energy can make space expand
(Don't you know the einstein's theory)

[quasi needle]

Pessimist spotted opinion utterly ignored

[wicked flax]

He even proved that

[steel folio]

Absurdism being viewed as pessimism

[quasi needle]

I don’t want humanity to get a better understanding of physical laws because I’m too dense to understand it

[south sand]

Knowing bigbang origin or the universes beginning has no purpose in anyones life because jts pointless and also no one in history and the future will know the answer

Stop wasting your time, you’ll pass this phase when u grow up boy

[quasi needle]

One leads to the other

[steel folio]

There is no benefit from understanding it

[quasi needle]

Understanding laws of the universe? Uhhh yeah

[quasi needle]

Sorry you’re just dense

[steel folio]

If the big bang happened or not. Knowing such knowledge does not benefit humanity

[celest wedge]

what came before that? I mean what caused the amount of energy to be huge? is it nature or something?

[steel folio]

Knowing if God created the world or not. It does not benefit humanity

[wicked flax]

Energies weren't created by anyone

[south sand]

Understanding bigbang has no part, understand the laws but understanding the bigbang is a inevitable wall not one human will ever conquer, might as well work towards a different science category

Pointless

[quasi needle]

No you’re just dense, sorry

I don’t understand it so we should stop trying to understand it

The mentality of a 9 year old who just lost his first league football game

[steel folio]

That's literally what you're doing right now

[south sand]

You can say what you want but your theories sound smart on paper but in reality you cannot identify what happened billions of years ago? No human can, not in history or the future, because it’s beyond our mortal reach, your wasting the precious time given to you by questioning where that time began

[quasi needle]

Researching the big bang has already yielded technological advancements.

[steel folio]

"I don't understand absurdist viewpoint so I'm going to pass it off as pessimism"

[celest wedge]

with all due respect everyone, it says the purpose of this room is for insightful conversations. not useful or meaningful or whatever it is. if it's meaningless to you that doesn't mean it's meaningless to others. just respect everyone. if you think the conversation is meaningless to you then just leave it. don't force others to take it as a meaningless topic too.

[south sand]

At the core of it, no it has not, if u apply all of it but the core message no, knowing what happen at the start or before has no contribution

[quasi needle]

One leads to the other because it’s being senselessly pessimistic about something absurdists are too dense to understand

[south sand]

It’s pointless, you won’t find the answer now or when you die. your descendants won’t either, no one will

[celest wedge]

yeah I'm not saying someone created it. I'm asking for the cause.

[south sand]

You can cope or find something useful to seek

[steel folio]

Except absurdism is like. Completely opposite of pessimism

[quasi needle]

Yeah no it’s not

[steel folio]

Because we understand ourselves and our morality and don't spend everyday worrying about things that mean nothing

We have pretty happy lives

[quasi needle]

Things that arbitrarily mean nothing because I refuse to understand the ramifications

Wait you’re the guy who said Minecraft is a good debater

Good grief

[south sand]

You’ve been given this short time on earth, what’s the point of questioning and searching for an answer that no one in any era will ever know. You can still like space and science stuff an theorize but the beginning has no answers for us

[steel folio]

If you prove definitively the big bang happened. What does that so for us.

[south sand]

Which he cannot

[steel folio]

So you can point at religious people and Nelson laugh at them

[celest wedge]

I'm gonna leave this conversation because I feel like there's nothing insightful here and I hope anyone that can't make it insightful just leave it as well. have a nice day.

[south sand]

No one can or will waste of thought

[tribal flower]

You too

[wicked flax]

We don't have a verified answer for it yet but that doesn't necessarily mean that God caused it

[south sand]

I wouldn’t make fun of religious people if one wastes their time searching for a answer that will never come, no different than religious folks tbh

Nice try Mario Judah

[tribal flower]

So it's unknown.. right?

[wicked flax]

You can say that.

[celest wedge]

I'm not trying to make you say god caused it brother. I'm a fool and a student. I'm asking you in case you know the answer. but if you don't then that's fine.

[south sand]

And I am not pessimistic, I am optimistic, leave the impossible behind and focus on what’s in front of you or something more probable, that is good

[wicked flax]

Oh.... Yeah, sorry!

[south sand]

Here comes the big paragraph

Still no one will know what happened before after or whenever

Sorry bud I don’t make the rules man accept reality

[steel folio]

To think we didn't get on at first 😭

[tribal flower]

Me too, I'm also looking for an answer, but I think nobody knows

[steel folio]

We are the same

[south sand]

Dude was arguing wit religious folk when his basis is on something not proven at all and no one will ever know, it’s funny ain’t it

😂

He boutta drop a grammar edited chat gpt infused essay

[steel folio]

There's no issue arguing/debating or w/e

I mean science vs religion will always popup

[south sand]

Brothers been typing for 5 min straight

He boutta drop a nuke

[tribal flower]

Because you need to think before you write*

🤓

[south sand]

Nahh fr

[south sand]

What loopholes or emotional refute will I receive

[south sand]

🔥🔥🔥

[steel folio]

He doesn't like my viewpoint and that's not a problem either. If you're devoted to a belief and someone dismisses it by saying it doesn't matter

[tribal flower]

I'll pray for you

[steel folio]

You can rightfully be upset

[tribal flower]

🙏

[steel folio]

But he should at least try and understand my(our?) Viewpoint

[celest wedge]

they will later if god wills it. some says that the study of big bang or the universe is pointless. but from my understanding it has triggered the existence of many other branches of knowledge. maybe we won't find the answer forever but if it triggers us to understand many other things then I don't really see it as wasteful. even in my religion seeking knowledge is very encouraged.

[south sand]

Atheism should be seperate from bigbanism or beforetheuniverseism type atheists

[quasi needle]

Understanding the big bang would literally allow an immeasurably better understanding of how matter and energy works allowing for modeling and shockwave discoveries in other fields, it’s one of the biggest fields where quantum science is expanded, which is inarguably useful, it’s expanded our knowledge on relativity which is necessary for satellites (e.g. GPS) to work, it in of itself has provided advancements in detection methods, data modeling and processing

More and more “It’s not useful because I don’t know how it works and don’t care about the scientific advancements it provides in other, more practical fields that wouldn’t have been found otherwise.” When you’re too naive to look into both primary and secondary benefits because you don’t understand

[south sand]

Arrogance will not comply, only think of themselves as righteous

[quasi needle]

You’re on discord get a hold of yourself

[south sand]

First sentence alone, sorry bro NO ONE will ever understand big bang, its beyond our grasp 😂

[quasi needle]

You two are just idiots sorry bro and goodbye

[south sand]

Yeah fellah you can go

[steel folio]

I think funding into certain projects would be more beneficial being put into social projects

[south sand]

Reality stays

[quasi needle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ignore-rgull1t-random-uvZnKsSG7GoFlmLtGc

[tribal flower]

You're right, also if you don't mind asking what religion are you following?

[steel folio]

I don't see a need to send more astronauts around the moon when we could be spending money on environmental projects

[south sand]

Sure it can be useful applied to modern technology, but the core of it is, we will never understand big bang or the truth behind it, you adjusted your argument from big bang / before the universe bias to applied physics

[celest wedge]

Islam

[steel folio]

I do care for the future, and I would like those after me to not suffer for my actions

[quasi needle]

…?

“Understanding the big bang provides knowledge” how dare we

We will never understand it because I say so without any basis

[tribal flower]

That's cool, I've met Muslim people they are nice to talk with

[quasi needle]

Minecraft manifest

[steel folio]

I think we can understand it. It's the realm of human possibility

[south sand]

I’m not talking about that, I’m talking about understanding the idea behind it, what happened at the start. Why it happens, did it happen? Can we prove it’s legitimacy (all no) in regards to philosophical and religious discussions earlier which you shifted that tone away from

[steel folio]

I don't think it's worth the time and resource to get to that point

[tribal flower]

hunan?

[celest wedge]

thanks for your kind words. where are you from btw.

[tribal flower]

?def hunan

[cursive bobcat]

Word: hunan

Definition (noun): a province in southeastern central China between the Nan Ling mountains and the Chang Jiang; noted for its timber and valuable mineral resources

Definition requested by kedikedikedii

[south sand]

And why it’s pointless for those who seek those questions

[steel folio]

Guess that's why it didn't autocorrect

[tribal flower]

RichyThink

[quasi needle]

The moon has a ton of helium-3. We have barely any of that on earth. What’s that useful for? Clean fusion

Your “I don’t see a need” is because you’re simply unaware of the needs. Not because there aren’t any

[south sand]

💀 there’s no amount of tech that can harbor a record of time from 13 billion years ago (the time is also a theory by the way) the universe is too vast and long for us to know anything regarding these ideas

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/sadhotgirl-gif-22160873

[south sand]

A gif won’t help

Prove to me right now big bang existed, and not a different event or idea

No loopholes, extra notion, pure thought

[quasi needle]

CMB

[south sand]

Nice now prove the big bang

Words ≠

Either way my original message is it’s pointless, and it still stands, let’s say you prove it (which you won’t) like I said you get nothing out of it but your own confirmation son, I accept that we will never understand it following reality

[tribal flower]

CE

[celest wedge]

cool

[tribal flower]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gojo-gojo-satoru-fortnite-gojo-fortnite-gif-159547278924435837

[south sand]

You can say it helps us, you can prove it happens, but what I say is, it does not matter in the grand scale of things

[tribal flower]

ragebait

[obtuse isle]

Do u see how dumb your statement is?

[south sand]

It’s impossible to understand , pointless

[tribal flower]

Yeah yeah

If no one is listening no one will

[steel folio]

Tbh. It was a bad example by me. I don't think it's comparable to something like the point of proving big bang

So you're right there

[south sand]

Most people to live on earth and have lived on earth has wondered that but it didn’t matter, serves no purpose

[obtuse isle]

Replied in a second, go touch some grass bruh

[tribal flower]

Some people believe that everything is caused by God and so whoever dies die because of God's will

[south sand]

^

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/rx7car-cars-miata-mx5mazda-wink-gif-26310072

[tribal flower]

i like trucks

[obtuse isle]

Hes a believer, his question is contradictory to his belief

[south sand]

^

[high rapids]

I don´t like israel supporter

[south sand]

Even after you drop your huge ass reply sir, the earth keeps spinning, the truth of the big bang or the start is still unknown and will never be known, all I say is, it is pointless to search for that, look in front of you and grasp something real close to reality

[tribal flower]

I don't really know about him or her

[quasi needle]

the universe was basically a tightly packed, glowing plasma where light and matter were constantly colliding. photons couldn’t travel freely. the CMB points to this as its uniform across the sky, as it was in thermal equilibrium and any uneven areas were smoothed out

before photons escaped, the universe was basically the most efficient thermalizer imaginable, the early universe (when it was immensely dense) points to this due to such even thermal distribution. after decoupling these photons stopped interacting so the CMB’s perfect blankbody spectrum got frozen

originally the whole universe was very hot, and for it to lose energy the wavelengths lowered which was cosmological redshift. if expansion stretches light then it must adhere to a very specific equation, which we’ve measured, and it does. the further we go back the hotter it gets by a factor

ahhhhh i can’t understand 10th grade science ahhhhh it’s meaningless

[tribal flower]

I'm not Israel supporter lol

I'm attention seeker

🤓

[high rapids]

One of us is less human—we are not the same

[tribal flower]

Shut up ChatGPT

[quasi needle]

Where’s Minecraft

I lowkey miss him

[tribal flower]

Minecraft is not a him bro

[quasi needle]

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as he’s not actually the most moronic in here

[tribal flower]

its a "it"

[quasi needle]

Minecraft is my idol

[tribal flower]

Do you have a server?

[high rapids]

Who uses ChatGPT?

[quasi needle]

What

[tribal flower]

You

[high rapids]

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

[quasi needle]

All my friends

[tribal flower]

Do you play Minecraft

[quasi needle]

Minecraft is @fervent oxide

[river token]

I submitted my essay today, fingers crossed. 🤞

[tribal flower]

Okay we need a worthy opponent who is going to be Terraria_652

[quasi needle]

What on

[south sand]

Your explaining the why that no one asked so far, but like I said, what do you get out of this? It’s pointless, you can assume all this, but you still don’t know 😂, it’s 13 billions years away into the past, something you won’t identify. Youre not striking philosophy with applied science. It doesn’t matter. I’ll say it again, in the end you’ll die. Live how you want, but I won’t waste my life searching for an impossible answer. @quasi needle and the ratio of time to the size of your message makes no sense. Lots of googling or ai eh?

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeong-gif-3654754744145897317

[quasi needle]

Agahhhh! Science! It scares me! Ahhh! Discovery! It scares me! Ahhh!! Tenth grade science! No!!!

Don’t hurt me Einstein!

[south sand]

No one scared of science but trying to grasp the impossible is foolish

[quasi needle]

I’m on my phone working on my NEA

[south sand]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[quasi needle]

It was due yesterday

God bless deadline pushbacks

[tribal flower]

When I was in that server I saw about 10 people got banned in the same moment like not even 3min passed just because of a minor disagreement, all I had to do is be good and behave, also to get gif perms there you have to adopt the tag😭

[south sand]

Mario Judah

[tribal flower]

It's funny

[quasi needle]

I was in a server like this and for every person that joined like 4 left

[river token]

Prospects of development in Africa was the main theme. I wrote it in chunks. History, present and then future prospects. And in those chunks, the why of decline, and the people involved/currently and in the past and how it can move on.

[south sand]

I wouldn’t mind talking with u but I have to go, I hope you find real purpose, goodbye.

[quasi needle]

How many words are we talking

sounds beefy

[river token]

8,000-9,000

[quasi needle]

gah damn

The longest thing I’ve written in recent memory is my university application

it’ll be my NEA when that’s done but god knows when that’s happening

[river token]

It was pretty condensed, I think. I wrote it keeping a lot of brevity... It was still scary as the teacher could have his own opinion and if I missed stuff, he might find it off centre or "on a tangent".

[river token]

What are you thinking of majoring in?

[quasi needle]

CS

[river token]

What's your NEA about?

[quasi needle]

It’s essentially code whatever something you want but the exam board is hyper pedantic about it

The coding itself is like 20% of the project and the rest is project management, analysis, design, evaluation

Mine is a multiplayer golf game

And I made the mistake of spending most my time coding

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/rx7car-cars-miata-mx5mazda-wink-gif-26310072

[quasi needle]

after a severe lapse in judgement i went with Lua

[river token]

😭 How are you handling the physics for the ball?

[quasi needle]

Analysis 10 marks
Design 15 marks
Coding 25 marks
Evaluation 20 marks

[quasi needle]

I don’t.

[river token]

I imagine the multiplayer bit must be harder than the gameplay.

[quasi needle]

there’s a reason why it’s a lapse in judgement

it does half the things for me

I spent 6 months learning C++ just to drop it for this slop

I basically spent like a month learning the language then a few days coding

Because I changed my mind

[tribal flower]

dummy

Like why did you learn something you're not going to use

[quasi needle]

The decision was based on my online friends

[tribal flower]

baka friends

[quasi needle]

I know a few people who are quite… rich… ROBLOX developers

and they offered to pay for adverts should I make a game

[river token]

It is not a big deal, if most of the marks aren't even in coding there's no point overengineering it. 25 isn't even half, most of the marks are in the documentation, write up and design anyways. (Though I don't know how the no physics on the ball is going to work. 😭)

[quasi needle]

and with roblox if you spend $500 on ads you’re guaranteed to make a few thousand back in profit as long as the game is playable

so i used my actual school project to learn the language to join their development team

[quasi needle]

shoutout to the guy who paid for some of my VR headset 🙏

[summer sphinx]

@plain ruin

[wispy sky]

Start playing games lol like competitive ones

If you have skill

Post it in yt

[pseudo flume]

The political urge to kidnap a guy and upload his torture videos on reddit is killing me

[mystic bay]

Reminds me of a story I'm writing

[pseudo flume]

Where can I read it

[fervent oxide]

https://x.com/hilzfuld/status/2044259957298597956?s=46

Hillel Fuld (@HilzFuld)

Are you human?

X · Apr 15, 2026, 3:42 AM

🇮🇱

[mystic bay]

I have only completed the prologue so far, but I can send it to you

[wispy sky]

🤦

[mystic bay]

🤔

[slim fjord]

Serious reaction please 🥺🙏

Click on beginner chat @frozen cape

[mystic bay]

Yes?

Aren't there 10?

There are the nine categories of accidents, plus the category of substance

Which is the most important of all

But yes I have read the Categories

At least, the parts that are extent

[shy summit]

This is such a disgusting prospect and just proves everything I’ve been saying about ethnonationalist retardation.

[rain lava]

You asked me ? Nah

[mystic bay]

Yes, I do

Yeah that's true

I'm a protestant though

I attend Anglican services but mostly out of convenience

My commitments are more in the reformed camp

I have Presbyterian sympathies

I've been think quite a lot about baptism lately

I was baptised as an adult but that's because I was an adult convert

If I have children, I think I would like to baptise them

Yes, I think that the persons are identical to the one divine essence, but in different respects

[shy summit]

Big yike

[mystic bay]

For instance, the Father is the divine essence in an ingenerate sense, and the Son is the divine essence proceeding from another

[fervent oxide]

you are just a hater of the American state

[rain lava]

Nale you did not respond to me

[fervent oxide]

just remember, the United States of America, is America, not the United States of the World

[shy summit]

1. Israel is not America nor is it in our top ten political allies.

2. It is not a qualification to be considered human to have to stand with war crimes.

[mystic bay]

It's more like:

Father = divine essence proceeding from no other
Son = divine essence proceeding from one other
Spirit = divine essence proceeding from two others

And there is no abstract divine essence apart from these processions

So I take a Thomist view that the persons are distinguished solely by relations of opposition

I don't think that the divine nature is 'common' in the sense of being a universal

Since a universal could, in theory, have many instances

[river token]

What does not standing with Israel has to do with the US?

[fervent oxide]

1. Israel is the only American proxy in the Middle East

2. it is not standing with war crimes to support State of Israel

[mystic bay]

And the divine nature cannot have many instances, even in principle

But I'm happy to say that the one divine nature is something the three persons share

What's EED?

[shy summit]

Yeah no. Your post literally just said support us or you’re not human.

How about you delete that post.

[mystic bay]

Oh, I see. From Palamas. That's interesting for a baptist. Do you reject the filioque?

[river token]

Objectively false. Syria under Julani is also an american proxy.
And as an individual, your patriotism to your land should NEVER precede over literal people's lives.

[mystic bay]

Interesting

[shy summit]

Also you’re just flat wrong about this.

[fervent oxide]

national interest above all

[mystic bay]

What about divine simplicity?

[river token]

That's just called fanaticism, and brainwashing. Nationalism at its core is brainwashing.

[fervent oxide]

🤦‍♂️

[mystic bay]

I think I can guess. But feel free to lay it out. I'm at work right now so I will have to look at it later.

[fervent oxide]

now liberals would say Israel is not American ally or proxy

that is so freak and so anti-reality

[river token]

National interest doesn't equate to political interest of a the political party at centre.
News flash!! Nation is more than the central government!

[fervent oxide]

the national will is represented by the central government

[river token]

US is Israeli Ally.
Israel is American proxy.

[fervent oxide]

contribute your support to the central government equals to support the nation

[shy summit]

Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Jordan, Libya, Saudi Arabia.

If you actually understood what the fuck you were talking about,

Does your asshole ever get jealous of the shit that comes out of your mouth?

Saudi Arabia is a closer military ally than Israel for fuck’s sake.

[river token]

No, false.

[shy summit]

They do more weapons exchanges with the US than Israel.

This isn’t even counting our non state agency proxies

[river token]

That's just a cattle mindset, supporting the center without any thought in your head.

[fervent oxide]

Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Jordan, Libya, Saudi Arabia, none of these are proxies, they are just either collabrators, temporary strategic allies

you are dragging yourself so hard that is contradicting to the truth that Israel is the most important proxy of the United States than ever

[river token]

Syria is a proxy. What are you talking about?

Not Saudi Arabia or Iraq, I agree. But Syria is a flat out proxy.

[shy summit]

@fervent oxide I’m getting really tired of your misunderstanding, misinformation and outright inhumane commentary.

Consider it a birthday favor to me and just shut up about a topic you haven’t been trained in for 24 hours.

[river token]

Do not stay delusional. 😭

[quasi needle]

Saudi Arabia is most definitely a proxy. Israel is favored by American politicians because it’s the testing ground for American oligarchical interests (primarily the MIC and related technology sectors). It is not the ONLY proxy, it’s only the favorite of the oligarchs. This is what people conflate with Israel running America, it doesn’t, but the capital that controls America loves Israel.

We love war

[fervent oxide]

tell me the difference between proxy and ally

[river token]

Saudi Arabia is an ally, not a proxy. 😭
Maybe in conflicts with Iran, but Saudi isn't a proxy.

There's a very fine line between proxy and ally.

[shy summit]

The amount of influence you have over an entity.

[fervent oxide]

so you are saying that US would hold more influence to Syria or Saudi than Israel ?

what the fuck was that logic

[shy summit]

Have you not paid attention to politics ?

Brother Israel holds a considerable amount of power over US domestic and foreign policy.

Like an insanely massive amount

That’s not a proxy

[quasi needle]

It’s not an OUTRIGHT proxy the same way Israel isn’t. I’m using it to say they’re not controlled by one another but they largely serve the same capital interests that originate from America

[river token]

No, a proxy is a middleman that acts in interest of the beneficiary.

Ally is a mutual relationship, where the act benefits the interest of both countries in an approximately same balance.

[fervent oxide]

politics isn't even related to your public opinion, it is a complex geopolitical issue that is undeniably which America has poured that much money to supply it

[shy summit]

In this sense Saudi is an ally

[quasi needle]

They’re proxies to American capital not the American government

[shy summit]

….

Yeah shut up you just made yourself look like a dumbass

“Politics isn’t even related to public opinion-“

What in the fucking retarded ass take is that.

[river token]

Saudi is only a proxy in Iran conflicts as I mentioned. Bring me any other conflict/event where Saudi acts/has acted as a proxy than a strategic ally.

[wispy sky]

Do you have some personal issues with minecraft lol ... because that's how it looks like

[shy summit]

Yes and no. I have personal issues with anyone who condones genocides claims human lives have no value and constantly defends pedophiles because they vaguely align with his personal politics.

Even I’m not so blind that I can’t condone people like that. Like Eric Swallwell.

[wispy sky]

Haha fair enough 🚶

[fervent oxide]

what the fuck ret*d ass take is to say Israel isn't America proxy

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-griffin-thinking-gif-12268318493156619732

[shy summit]

Because it has too much influence to say we have power over it.

Simple

Thank god we have people like Ilhan Omar and Zoran Mamdani and Hassan speaking out against that state sponsored genocide.

[wispy sky]

The "Unsinkable aircraft carrier" for a reason

[fervent oxide]

praising people who would act publicly against the state

[shy summit]

Two of them ARE the state

[fervent oxide]

I'm sure could get you in prison in authoritarian state

[quasi needle]

Netanyahu was in the situation room arguing the case for the Iran war and everyone in the room disagreed, JD Vance said it was stupid and Marco Rubio hated it.

Netanyahu won against Trump’s own cabinet, and you’re saying Israel is a proxy to the American government? It’s a proxy to American death cult oligarchs, not the US government

[shy summit]

Yeah bro, I can be executed in many for liking dick, so what.

[river token]

I think calling it a vassal state is more apt than a proxy.

[quasi needle]

They’re pegged to the petrodollar and effectively import US monetary policy

[shy summit]

I wouldn’t even give it that much

The Zionist lobby is too massive

[river token]

It benefits them.

[fervent oxide]

you know that vassal literally means more influence is imposed right >

saying America isn't supporting Israel or Israel isn't America's ally or proxy is really fucking ret*rd

[shy summit]

Just look at how much money they donate to political campaigns

[fervent oxide]

that is the god damn reality

[shy summit]

America supports Israel but not by choice

It’s because of political financing demands of the elite

[quasi needle]

On god

[fervent oxide]

the only reason I wasn't ragetexting is because I'm with my teammates to fight another squad on arena breakout

[shy summit]

You don’t understand the nuance of campaign finance in a democratically run system of elections.

[fervent oxide]

that is so fucked and so ret*rded

[quasi needle]

They’re calling it the most Chinese game ever

Sorry

[quasi needle]

Lowkey do you have a job Minecraft

[shy summit]

He sounds like he plays league. But I wanna do a bg3 run with him. He probably plays dark urge and kills all the refugees.

[quasi needle]

I love my fellow unemployed folk until you reach the age you leave uni

[shy summit]

See, I’m not employed in the traditional sense

I’m commission freelance

[fervent oxide]

freelancer

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-griffin-thinking-gif-12268318493156619732

[quasi needle]

Bros unemployed

[shy summit]

Hey man, that’s just how journalism be these days

[fervent oxide]

I made 20k a year so it's not that bad

[shy summit]

USD or wan

[fervent oxide]

USD

[shy summit]

[quasi needle]

My brothers a self employed freelancer because he’s “employed” by some American company to train AI

[fervent oxide]

last year though, this year I only made 3000

[shy summit]

Low key, I still see that as work

[quasi needle]

It’s literally talking to an AI all day

[fervent oxide]

you know how economy goes and it's pretty bad

[quasi needle]

Each job is like “Pretend to be a school boy and convince the AI to teach you something wrong” $54/hr

[fervent oxide]

also it's super unstable to have a stable income as freelancer

[shy summit]

Training AI is perfectly viable if it pays man. The job market stands between .87 and .91

Anything is better than nothing

[quasi needle]

He used to work at one stop and I respected him more because he woke up at 1pm instead of 6:30pm

[fervent oxide]

I was once, earning 50k a year for 2 years, cuz I was on crypto mining business

[river token]

Yes, it's more subservient. But that is because every aspect of their existence from trade, international relations, to direct funding even the majority of their long term immigration, is from the US.

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/15/netanyahu-israel-rant-biden-gaza-war

This was also my reference for calling them that.

[quasi needle]

He claims he wakes up at 6pm because it’s an American company but they release new jobs at 11am

[river token]

During Biden's presidency, by the way.

[shy summit]

I have my issues with AI in that it enables illiterate dumbasses to spread misinformation but- it’s still useful.

[quasi needle]

Lowkey a slob but it’s whatever

[shy summit]

Claims?

[quasi needle]

He claims that’s his reason

Not mentioning that he’s just a slob

[fervent oxide]

don't talk with me about geopolitics if you would trust some word of commitment of the relationship by some fucking words of politician

I have no interest to argue with that

literally pointless

[shy summit]

Brother this is so ironic coming from you.

[fervent oxide]

sigh

[shy summit]

You take American politicians at their word all the time.

[quasi needle]

We share a bathroom and I’ve been the one to steam and deep clean it he can’t even wipe down the sink

[river token]

While talking to a non israeli, non US citizen, who lives in a country with minimal access to geopolitics, I shall refrain myself from bringing up actual statements and sources?

[quasi needle]

He doesn’t flush the toilet on a 50/50 chance and leaves crumbs everywhere

[fervent oxide]

dude I know you are sick of my ideology or ideal for all the time, but don't use some shit to question the reality

the reality is what it is, irrelevant to your ideal or mines

[quasi needle]

Where are your sources

[shy summit]

Brother that comment wasn’t about your ideology it was about the conflict of your behavior with your statement.

[quasi needle]

You must have either the biggest backlog of sources or the potential slim chance that you might, perchance, have zero sources and might, very POSSIBLY, be lying all the time

Very slim chance though

[river token]

My reference was calling Israel a "vassal state" because Netanyahu hates it by the way. 😭

In the source, he actually DENIES being a vassal state. If you actually read the embed headline.

[fervent oxide]

it is not a considered vassal because even it is under the strong influence and United States would hold some power to determine their internal affairs, it is not reaching the point of taking control of their core interest fields

[quasi needle]

Little does he know their core interest fields are simply the same and they’re both controlled by the same huge interconnecting web of elites rather than one state flat out controlling the other

[fervent oxide]

I'm a national socialist does not contradict me from acknowledging the reality and truth

[quasi needle]

What’s a national socialist again

[fervent oxide]

but it's very hard to believe you would take the same position because you are obviously failed to recognize how many achievement and objective that State of Israel have done which is in favor to the national interest of the United States

[quasi needle]

Thank god I almost forgot

[fervent oxide]

confusing everything with some ret*rded shit take does not make you wise

[quasi needle]

Source? Ohhhh… wait….

😬

[river token]

Israel is subservient to american elites. Not the government.

[fervent oxide]

it is still

AMERICA 🇺🇸

[river token]

So... you agree it's a vassal state?

You said uh, American elites are America. You agreed that Israel is subservient to American elites (which in your opinion is still "America"). So Israel is subservient to America?

Is that what you're implying?

To be fair, the relation between US and Israel is very hard to fit into labels.

They have their core agendas, but they're very subservient to the US elites (and US government that allies with them) in other political matters- that don't clash with their core believes.

[crystal kayak]

What's your religion

[fervent oxide]

nope, it is not close to the vassal threshold

[sharp crater]

Good morning

[plush phoenix]

whats ur thoughts about cannabis

[river token]

Majority of zionists are christian zions. The primary donors to AIPAC are American Christians/Evangelicals. They are the primary driving force behind the Israeli project.

Israel has a certain degree of agency so that America has plausible deniability as its backers. Even though America does say "don't do this", they will ultimately defend Israel's actions, as seen in not only how the American government penalizes the ICC and the UN but also American institutions and corporations like how Microsoft cut email services to the ICC.

US has frequently used its veto in the United Nations Security Council to block resolutions critical of Israel.

There has been many instances where US has controlled Israeli politics. Gulf war restraint, Oslo Accords, Camp David Accords.

I don't think it's a fully vassal country, but it has properties of it.

It can't actually be distinguished as both the countries usually don't deviate in ideologies, so there's less friction to point at.

[river token]

Source:
https://www.firstpost.com/world/over-2-3s-of-israelis-think-netanyahu-govt-has-become-vassal-state-of-us-survey-13946901.html

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/israels-dependence-united-states-existential

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/israel-is-growing-more-dependent-on-a-less-sympathetic-united-states

[crystal kayak]

Don't do drugs

[fervent oxide]

ICC and UN has no enforcement or active measure that is able to enforce their laws effectively upon either the US or Israel, they are totally shit and irrelevant in this equation

and there are a lot of clear transactions and activities as the evidence of why Israel is dependent and represent the national will of the US, including message sharing among high ranking officials and even duel nationality agreements, trade, direct bankroll, and what you have said, the veto for defend the Israel etc.

[fallow shard]

Can't recommend but you do you ig

[fervent oxide]

Israel, as a country that is totally surrounded by enemy states, that will never have any potential to threat the interest or challenge the US dominance over the region, and in fact, they did the exact contrary, they let US companies to set their base in Israel, they share technology with the US, and US officials do have some level of leverage in deciding their internal affairs

everything that shows the US would told Israel not to do this is literally show up action that they have taken nothing in effect to counter Israeli aggressive action in Gaza

therefore, DO NO THE FUCK TELL ME AMERICA IS ANTI-ISRAEL OR ISRAEL IS MISBEHAVING because they simply told them to stop, that is fucking childish and in reality they are the direct beneficial in this war by weakening Iran's war capability which is a long term trouble leave to the US, because it challenge the dominance

and Israeli strategy WORKED WELL for interest of the both nation regardless of what measure they have taken

🇺🇸 🇮🇱

and for America, giving them another 4 trillion won't be even considered too much

Israel is the last stand against terrorism and anti-American and anti-West dominance influence

[shy summit]

They’re all US allies or proxies… bud the only reason they call them enemies is because they’re Muslim.

[fervent oxide]

Iran is not a US ally

[shy summit]

The majority of American constituents also do not support israel

[shy summit]

We had a deal with them for years which was only removed thanks to trump

[fervent oxide]

it is actually none about whether they are muslim or not, it is about maintain your dominance and national security for State of Israel to them

it is not a religious struggle, it is a survival struggle between nations

[shy summit]

Brother do you look to their actual governmemt documentation and speeches at all?

[fervent oxide]

that's their political speech used for encourage their people to fight better on the ground

[shy summit]

Like- the whole reason they hate each other is due to a difference of religion.

[fervent oxide]

that exists also on Russia, North Korea, China et.c

just too many country have used such racist comments to justify how great it is to fight

[shy summit]

North Korea is hardly to be considered a threat. Air drop food packages and their whole ass army would just defect.

I’m not even kidding

[fervent oxide]

not really, they both fight not because their religion is different, it is because their ethnicity is different

[shy summit]

You should see what happens to their people when they finally leave the bounds of their borders.

It’s sad tbh

They realize their whole life has been a lie

[fervent oxide]

they both fight in the first place, is because that arabs is so pissed that after WW2 they gave Israel a place on this piece of land where they are arab lives

[fervent oxide]

for a very long time, before the Soviet Union dissolved, the population flow was mainly from the South to the North

[shy summit]

Yeah I’d be pissed too if someone just said “btw I’m giving this land to a rival faction” without me having a say or hearing about it

[fervent oxide]

I'm not even lying or kidding you could check the source

[shy summit]

Same way I’d be pissed if a dude walked into my house started throwing my shit out and just said “I live here now”

[pseudo flume]

Hallelujah matchmaking

[shy summit]

What in the goddamn

[fervent oxide]

that's just one point, and the other point is the political struggle between nations

[shy summit]

Brother religion is literally one aspect of politics

[fervent oxide]

both Soviet Union and United States agreed and supported to establish Israel in the region

[shy summit]

A very big one too

[fervent oxide]

not the biggest one, the biggest one is what being decided by few big powers

they are the direct administrator before anything happens

[pseudo flume]

Should I ping sanna, she's Christan and god fearing girl

[fervent oxide]

it was firstly the British, then US and Soviet Union

firstly British did let Jews to come into this place to create a situation of divide and rule so they would rule this place by taking advantage of supporting either side to fight against the other side

and after that, SU and US which is Joseph Stalin and Roosevelt have agreed to establish the State of Israel in that place

and it triggered most arab states

then they use religion as a way to justify their actions

firstly they rejected the idea of the two state solution and launched 4 wars in total against State of Israel

and they lost all of them

it is a total, I mean not even lying, a total geopolitical struggle between big powers

it is the contraction between big powers that happened in this piece of land fighting their behalf

it is a proxy war, has always been one and it was not changed

[fervent oxide]

religion is so behind of all of these

[shy summit]

Do you hate yourself?

[pseudo flume]

I'm not chinese, neither yahoodi

Why would I hate myself

[shy summit]

Valid

[frosty goblet]

Anybody in a working age feelin’ like there’s less humanity than when you were not in the workforce?

[frozen cape]

The regulars there can help you with whatever queries you may have

[pastel fern]

Hi everyone

[manic juniper]

I feel like it's the job itself that makes you feel detached from it but my coworkers are amazing

[river token]

What do you mean? Sorry, I didn't understand.

[fervent oxide]

I mean ICC and UN is nothing but a piece of shit

[fresh flower]

If I saw this guy irl I'd poison his soy sauce

[river token]

If the countries that upkeep it act blind? Sure. But it actually isn't "nothing" for non western countries.

[river token]

Except obviously, Russia, and China.

[fervent oxide]

it is fucking nothing to which country that holds significant power and leverage against it

for example Israel

[river token]

Did you read what I said?

I said if US were to, they could easily put netanyahu on trial for war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity.

US and EU are the countries that upkeep ICC.

[plain ruin]

The US doesn't recognise the ICC

[river token]

If they turn a blind eye to the whole situation, of course ICC/UN can be rendered useless. But they can conveniently wield it.

[river token]

*Fully. They're selective with it.

But yeah, not a ratified member.

They supported it against ISIS and Ukraine.

[plain ruin]

Interesting, thanks

they probably recognize the verdict rather than the legitimacy of the court itself though

[river token]

They support it against Vladimir Putin but not against Netanyahu.

[stiff dragon]

I'm not yet in the workforce, though i can tell you, i have seen some dreadful people in my life. if someone say them, they would hate the world.

[river token]

They are selective in the sense that they only recognize its legitimacy when it's against US rivals.

[manic juniper]

Do they? He doesn't have a mandate in USA

https://mind.ua/en/news/amp/20254924-south-africa-must-arrest-putin-during-his-planned-visit-to-the-summit-in-august-media

Countries in green have ratified it
USA isn't there

[stiff dragon]

hey Ael, US can do anything, if they can try to genocide a whole country based on some hunch or just the production of nuclear power. They definitely can hang netanyahu for genocide, and attempted murders against many.

[fresh flower]

Wrong

Jews control them

[stiff dragon]

Fr, i too believe that theory

[fresh flower]

It's not a theory 💀

Theory is big bang or evolution, this is reality

[stiff dragon]

but, the US alone has enough power, that they can do this

[stiff dragon]

Although i believe it, i can't say it is reality for sure, untill i see it

and by that i mean, to be fully dedicated in geopolitical activities or by being in a power position that understands the world.

[deep mural]

Hi big bro

[fresh flower]

Have you not heard of the grip that AIPAC has on US politics

[fresh flower]

Wagwan lil brodie

[river token]

Yeah. They're not members of the ICC so they're not obliged to (ironic as they partly suggested the idea of ICC but never ratified as a member.)

They politically backed it though.

[deep mural]

What?

[stiff dragon]

yeah, i know, although the candidates backed up by AIPAC wins almost and always every time. There are other major lobby's too, beliefs against AIPAC has also been executed.

[fresh flower]

It means what's up bro

[fresh flower]

How do you feel about antisemitism

[stiff dragon]

I'm a bit skeptical about it, because the jewish who takes the enirety of old testament and adheres strictly to it. I hate them, because the old testament is misintrepreted by most. And, the rest of the jews, i consider them like normal NPCs that i see in my everyday life.

[prisma lagoon]

Well according to the Bible The Izraelis were the chosen people. But in these days what they have done recently is kind of contradictory.

[fresh flower]

They're not normal NPC's though most of them are positive about the wars, even the Hasidic jews you see on free palestine rallies are for the settlements

[fresh flower]

"Were" is the keyword, they racemixed with Europeans and most Jews nowadays have less semitic heritage than the average Arab from that region

[stiff dragon]

Yeah, I didn't say normal NPCs, there are villanous ones too. And good ones too but I generally considered everyone NPC other than me

[stiff dragon]

I can debate and dissect about the bibles and israelis whole day, but I would get cancelled for saying so. So I'm backing from the Bible

[stiff dragon]

That's true but the theory suggests that ones believing semitic heritage are ruling the world, in the form of AIPAC , banks, or asset managing companies

[fresh flower]

It's true though

Look at what they did to Kanye West for speaking out

Alex Jones

Who else

[last geyser]

HI GUYS THE STRONGEST TURKISH IN THE WORLD IS BACK 🐺 🇹🇷

[high rapids]

blocked

[last geyser]

idc

[quasi needle]

I’ll fight my friends over Kanye

no i don’t give a fuck a mentally ill guy had a manic episode yes i like his music

[peak pagoda]

Whats the difference between chill and serious chat? I saw both are kinda weird most of the time

[mystic bay]

How is the OT misinterpreted?

[quasi needle]

everyone here hates each other with vitriol only seen elsewhere in the fiery pits of hell

[high rapids]

(expect me)

[high rapids]

you´re all full of hate

[quasi needle]

trust me when im done with my exams ill be the nicest person on earth

these are a leech on my mentality

[high rapids]

liar

[quasi needle]

bro

school is taking my lifeblood

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[peak pagoda]

Holly molly, is true!!!

[high rapids]

how old are you? 16

[quasi needle]

17

3 months from adulthood 😔

[peak pagoda]

So, i can just be racist, clasist and everithing ends in -ist?
After all everyone here are made of hate

[quasi needle]

yes as long as the mods like you

[peak pagoda]

Or... i can just be the wholesome girl

[quasi needle]

some people in here get away with literally anything and some get warned at genuine bs

[high rapids]

aha

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-griffin-thinking-gif-12268318493156619732

[fervent imp]

[peak pagoda]

And cant make a world war if we only have half world. It would be the world war 2/5

[fervent imp]

So much hate towards so many nationalities

Crazy

Alright pal enough of nonsense

[high rapids]

can someone mute this guy

[fervent imp]

[high rapids]

thanks

[little tundra]

Any site or app where i can learn to write in proper grammar, and learn to form unique sentences. Complex sentences. ??

[fresh flower]

Yes

NOOO HE'S MUTED WHY

[high rapids]

racism

[vale silo]

Omfg the painter was from Austria too

Wild

[shy summit]

Everytime Minecraft dismisses human life, condones atrocities and pretends to understand my lifelong field of study better than I do.