🧠｜serious-chat

[turbid harbor]

those gated community fucks dontr deserve good petrol for their rich cars

[quasi needle]

give it a month until the $10 trillion in fuel subsidies the US has can’t cushion the US gas market anymore

$5 a gallon try $12 a gallon

sissy americans need to learn real gas prices

[turbid harbor]

he told his enemies to make the first move with ridiculous confidence that he could cuff them from the back

[shy summit]

6.47 rn

[quasi needle]

that’s california isn’t it

[shy summit]

Yup

[quasi needle]

the national average was $4 2 days ago

so like $5 at most now

i’m translating my fuel into USD per US gallon

last month it was $6.34 a gallon and today it’s $7.20 a gallon

but only one of my local gas stations has that price the rest are $7.35+

[tiny bluff]

I get them trying to take over Iran and Venezuela and controlling global supply but this idea that strait closing affects them positively doesn't seem true.

Since the gulf isn't used just for oil but also natural gas, pesticides and what not.

PS even if US is sustaining its energy department all by itself, US economy isn't self sustaining and is considered an import based economy.

This whole idea that they can sustain their oil prices and not give a fuck about other countries falls apart for me because the import prices will increase for consumers if the oil prices were unstable globally

[quasi needle]

i’m so glad to have an economy car

550 miles on 45 liters is blessing me

[high raven]

It's $8 here 😭

[tiny bluff]

If they win the war, the petrodollar does benefit a lot

[quasi needle]

i’m shocked that the gap between US and UK gas prices is narrowing so much

[tiny bluff]

But the strait closing idts?? Cause they import so much electronics, pharma and what not

[quasi needle]

a THIRD of the UK gas price is “fuel duty” which is just a fat tax for the government

[tiny bluff]

Not even considering the raw material import

[tiny bluff]

from middle east

I might be wrong tho this is just my logic on things which isn't really based on linear facts

[quasi needle]

if our gas was untaxed (which is what farmer do) it’d be around 100p a litre which is $4.90

[high raven]

Oh no the strait closing is bad for everyone regardless if they're self-sufficient or not, it will get worse too. Most ships who have already left the strait arrive at their destinations by the end of this month, after that it will increase even more regardless if the strait opens or not

[tiny bluff]

If we're talking about the war, it does benefit them to take over iran and venezuela 100%

[high raven]

This just assumes that the Houthis won't do anything with their side at the red sea too

[tiny bluff]

Yeah, it's just a whiplash for us civilians

[quasi needle]

bro shell’s stock price has gone up 33% in 3 months

[turbid harbor]

what country in the world even gets their shit together enough not to depend on gulf straits

[quasi needle]

god damn

[tiny bluff]

My budget is all up in flames

😓 They should give us a war bonus to afford gas bruv

[quasi needle]

get an economy car

[tiny bluff]

You want me to buy a car in this economy 💔💔💔

[quasi needle]

i have a tiny turbocharged engine

[turbid harbor]

my moped uses the cheapest gas

[quasi needle]

albeit it’s already broken down 😊

[high raven]

It depends on where you live tbh, us in Europe will be hit significantly less hard than Asia, the Philippines for example already have an energy crisis this early into it

[quasi needle]

are cats not cheap there

[tiny bluff]

Korea and Japan's economy was falling hard

[quasi needle]

u can get a beater for like £600

[tiny bluff]

From what i read at the start of the strait closinh

[quasi needle]

u can buy a working economic car for less than a ps5 pro

[turbid harbor]

this is how i stand victimless in the face of the economic crisis

by being broke

[tiny bluff]

So strategic they bolstered their economy by holding a BTS concert

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[tiny bluff]

😭😭😭

Too many tourists

[turbid harbor]

kpop is sk's main devisa

[quasi needle]

japan’s economy needs to keep crumbling

it’s insane how right wing the japanese actually are

they need to taste the product of their poor decisions

[tiny bluff]

Yeah 💔

[quasi needle]

i also hate anime so that needs to go

[tiny bluff]

Man fuck the petrodollar, we should move on to yuandollar fast enough

[quasi needle]

the chinese century can’t come sooner

[tiny bluff]

Yep

[high raven]

Turkish online disinformation campaign was very successful

[tiny bluff]

The fanservice and making girls look 12 is icky

[quasi needle]

please god make all the anime studios shut down due to economic ruin

[high raven]

They made the Japanese target the Kurds there, even though there's only around 3000 of them

[tiny bluff]

I like studio ghibli

[quasi needle]

and keep only TRIGGER studios open

i watched one anime 4 years after my friend told me to

i watched it a month ago and it was my favorite show ever but i’m never watching another

[tiny bluff]

No

[quasi needle]

cp edgerunners was so good

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-david-cyberpunk-edgerunners-tears-gif-26728517

[tiny bluff]

Isn't this happening since 2023

Petrodollar is such a big economic advantage for the US

They're going through hellish lengths to keep that advantage

[turbid harbor]

chill on chudtopia gem

[turbid harbor]

keep TRIGGER and science saru undamaged

https://x.com/i/status/2039643219588473161 chat is this true

eppy (@epppyyy)

To everyone outside India,

Twitter has joined hands with the Indian Government to censor any kind of criticism, porn, ally activity, and you can mostly only see Pro Government Tweets

Not even Art and Cosplay is spared. This is soon going to be your country btw.

X · Apr 2, 2026, 9:56 AM

[tiny bluff]

@fresh flower Were you vc verified in the 313 server

What did they ask you

[fresh flower]

They asked me to curse some guys, why I joined the server and such

Idek who I cursed they told me to repeat after them

One was Bakr

[uncut tiger]

💀 💀 💀

[turbid harbor]

https://x.com/i/status/2039461580073541934 son

[wind zephyr]

https://x.com/i/status/2039461580073541934 son

Headquarters (@HQNewsNow)

Trump: On Palm Sunday, Jesus entered Jerusalem as crowds welcomed him with praise honoring him as king. They call me king now. Can you believe it?

X · Apr 1, 2026, 9:55 PM

[wind zephyr]

Oh

Learn hindi

💀

It's just a language why u start comparing countries

[weary moss]

the winner gets to eat

[wind zephyr]

Ok don't be serious

Don't learn hindi

[high raven]

Knowing Hindi isn't even enough in most of India

[wind zephyr]

Learning new language is tuff

So I don't want to learn any language

[wind zephyr]

Yeah every state has its own language

Hm

I prefer to learn English

As it use internationally

Nothing

I am happy with hindi and english

Nah, i never want to visit china

Hindi or english dub exist

[weary moss]

😩

[wind zephyr]

It's always

Yeah not for u

But for indian market they dub for Hindi

I can wait that long

Nah watching anime in ur own language is something u want to experience

Hm

Do u really enjoy?

No

Oh

Ok

Enjoy the orginal anime/movie

Like u don't always understand the language

After learning?

Oh

[high raven]

Which ones do you speak?

I'm assuming that you're from India

[wind zephyr]

Hindi

[wind zephyr]

Well hindi is spoken all over India

But they prefer their own regional language

[lofty hound]

how to deal with doms? 😭

it's really hurtt

I workout too muchhh

:''''

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[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-family-feud-throw-paper-i-cant-thats-it-gif-13371772

[plain ruin]

delayed onset muscle soreness

[lofty hound]

it stands for Delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS).
-# A familiar experience for the elite or novice athlete. Symptoms can range from muscle tenderness to severe debilitating pain.

[plain ruin]

heat/cold or stretching or a light work out

plenty of youtube videos, depending on the muscle

[lofty hound]

I did take a shower with cold water.. but still it's hurtt :')

maybe currently what I need is sleep and take a deep restt 😫

but I have a work to dooo

dayemmnn

[lofty hound]

thanks for the advice btwww

[quasi needle]

oh.

i read that. differently

[plain ruin]

try hot water instead and see if it helps
there are some situations cold water helps, some where hot water helps

[tiny bluff]

😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

some of these help without taking rest, but if you're not sleeping enough, it definitely will make it worse

[tiny bluff]

My head was like yearning yaoi

[plain ruin]

💀😭

[plain ruin]

when isnt it

[tiny bluff]

While doing salah

[verbal drift]

Muslim?

[verbal drift]

?!

Who?

[wind zephyr]

Idk

[verbal drift]

Salah is prayer

[wind zephyr]

Oh

[verbal drift]

In Arabic

[wind zephyr]

Well i am not

[plain ruin]

You're probably praying for more yaoi then too

[tiny bluff]

what?

[weary moss]

wsp gamers

[verbal drift]

What's your religion

[fresh flower]

How's things in Nepal now

Did everything calm down

[verbal drift]

🤔

[mystic bay]

[frank estuary]

Ya gotta be famous if ur the fourth

[tiny bluff]

whydyc

[fresh flower]

Bro's acting coy 💀

[plain ruin]

did you check?

[spice bobcat]

🤔🤔

[tiny bluff]

@high raven Is she saying the truth or is she spreading propaganda? Lebanon

[fresh flower]

He's not even trying to mask it💀

[plain ruin]

I've checked and confirmed

[turbid dome]

I don’t like Mamdani, his wife was cool for supporting Palestinian resistance and he’s lame for folding

[turbid dome]

Propaganda for the Christians, the system favored christians

It wasn’t truly equal, presidency and such reserved by sect and christians were colonial collaborators

[tiny bluff]

But it was originally christian though, wasn't it?

[turbid dome]

It originally was part of Syria and they carved out a Christian part of Syria for colonial aims

The christians mostly fled because they didn’t get their colonial benefits anymore, though some were actually refugees

[tiny bluff]

Syria was the cradle of Christianity

[prisma cipher]

Sounds like bulshiet

[tiny bluff]

I don't believe what she says fully though

nobody does stuff for charity or picks up migrants for charity ofc

I don't believe that the palestinians were this evil person or that the govt was innocent either

[high raven]

I didn't hear anything wrong. There's a great book called "A house of many mansions" on this topic, it talks about how conflict was almost inevitable because of divisions between Arab-oriented Muslims and more Western-aligned Christians over Lebanon’s identity and alliances

[tiny bluff]

It just begs the question why did the Christian population decline by so much

[manic juniper]

Refugees in and refugees out

[turbid dome]

They were the colonial class and they’re to this day wealthier than the Muslims, they lost colonial privileges in the civil war and fled to France, they disproportionately left during thr civil war because they had the money to secure passage out

[tiny bluff]

But why were christians being refugees?

[manic juniper]

Losing rights or feeling threatened

[turbid dome]

Turns out the Muslims who were a large minority didn’t like complete Christian dominance of the system where they had no voice

They lost complete dominance, but today they’re still disproportionately well off

[tiny bluff]

That's just black and white worldview it reduces every christian lebanese to wealthy scallywags

[turbid dome]

Obviously not all of them but when you look at it on average it’s correct

[plain ruin]

I can't believe that we fell for Nobu

[manic juniper]

In Finnish Karelia most Karelians fled without much bloodshed, because they thought that Russia would genocide them the same way it did with the Ingrian Finns few decades earlier

So they left, it's like voluntary ethnic cleansing if you wish

[turbid dome]

It’s like white people being wealthier than black people in the US, sure you have poor whites but it’s the trend

[high raven]

Foreshadowing

[manic juniper]

400k of them moved from annexed Karelia to Finland

[terse tiger]

serious question,
how to open the strait of Hormuz?

[turbid dome]

Give Iran what it wants

[tiny bluff]

😭🙏🏻

[manic juniper]

Isn't that the case in Egypt as well

Those Christians could afford to not convert and pay jizya but most of them had to convert

[plain ruin]

Holy oxymoron

[turbid dome]

Idk about christians in Egypt but I know it happened in many post colonial societies, in Egypt I know it happened in Greek communities

[prisma cipher]

Chill, it just our land.

[tiny bluff]

I will pick it up, thanks for the recommendation.

Also by foreshadowing, did you mean they were afraid of the conflict that the Palestinian refugees were having with israel or the civil war?

[thorny steeple]

eh

[crisp zephyr]

Putin: The borders of Russia have no end

[tiny bluff]

But Lebanon was created for Christians and christian values

Afaik

[manic juniper]

You can keep it

[tiny bluff]

😭😭

[high raven]

More so that another war was inevitable due to sectarian divisions and competing loyalties. Loads of Lebanese Christians migrated before the war, that's why there's more people of Lebanese descent in Brazil than there are Lebanese citizens in Lebanon

[manic juniper]

If you look at how it turned out to be you wouldn't laugh

[turbid dome]

Why does that make it legitimate, the third reich was founded for Germans and german values?

Like why does a supremacist ideology matter?

[high raven]

They learned their lesson and moved on to start a life elsewhere

[thorny steeple]

Emotional blackmailing

[tiny bluff]

Should I read this?
Evacuation of Finnish Karelia-Wikipedia

[manic juniper]

Yeah but not much is written on it that I haven't already said, they were simply evacuated and there wasn't a lot of bloodshed

They didn't want to live in Russia again

[tiny bluff]

Ah

[fresh flower]

I mean can you even blame them

[prisma cipher]

Just be normal, if I google what part of land were taken by other countries I will use word annexion non stop. Why you doing that no idea. It like I start saying you know I was in Texas that was annexed from Mexican or something. You don't notice you crazy af f about Russia.

[fresh flower]

Imagine being persecuted and genocided and have people tell you "This Muslim cause next-door won't affect you this time"

[prisma cipher]

Blocked usfrun

No mood for bulahied

[manic juniper]

Most of the blame falls on the Finnish government and the Finns since the Karelians were mistreated and their language rights weren't upheld

Also the Finnish government promoted the evacuation itself

[tiny bluff]

Oh. I think I get it, the rise of PLO, and the christian population also having to face LNM and regional support to Palestinian militia contributed to it

[manic juniper]

Least butthurt Russian

[tiny bluff]

It's not like that

That is a totally disconnected analogy

[turbid dome]

I mean the point isn’t the ideological similarities, it’s the point that the founding ideology isn’t legitimizing

US was founded on genocide of natives, that doesn’t make it ok

Why should lebanons Christian identity not be questioned

[tiny bluff]

It was originally lebanese land

Christianity isn't the same as race

[turbid dome]

It was partitioned from Syria, nor is the point who owned the land, it’s to question the founding ideology

[magic olive]

Wall of blocked texts, wonder how it looks like

[turbid dome]

Just because it’s founded on an ideology does that make it ok?

[tiny bluff]

The founding ideology is preservation of a religion that was persecuted by the Arabs for decades if not centuries

[high raven]

Yes that sums it up well, there's a few other factors too but the divide itself between pan-Arab vs Western was huge

[tiny bluff]

You know what happened to Christianity or Christians during arab invasion

[turbid dome]

It was a colonial attempt by the French to create a state which marginalized Muslims and excluded them from politics, with Muslims being much poorer than christians. It was a Christian project

All in order to divide and conquer

[tiny bluff]

Plus the land was originally christian and had been so for so long

[turbid dome]

Preservation doesn’t require oppression

[fresh flower]

Huge W for Christians tbh

No idea why they'd include Muslims when they've just been killing them for eons

Moronic if they did so

[tiny bluff]

You're taking it as racial identity which it isn't. It's just homogeneity in value of the parliament that was different from islamic values

[turbid dome]

It means if Muslims wanted a voice they’d have to convert, I’m not making it racial, I’m saying they should have all been equal instead of a privileged group and a disadvantaged one

[fresh flower]

Doesn't matter, Martini doesn't believe in protecting oppressed groups of people

[prisma cipher]

It not personal. Don't wanna see that type of messages here for now. Maybe I will be in different mood and will ignore it, but not today. Good luck with everything.

[tiny bluff]

Also, what was oppressive about the christian party, underrepresentation, true. Oppression? Yet to give me a law or example for that

[turbid dome]

Ahh yes, sorry that my idea of protecting minorities isn’t oppressing a different minority

[tiny bluff]

It's the fact that muslims were majority in the region, allowing that was no different than handing the parliament over to muslims

[manic juniper]

Ok lol I thought you blocked me, just keep me blocked

[prisma cipher]

When I see blocked messes I feel good, I feel like I don't read stupid messages from stupid people who opinion I don't care. Isfrun is not one of them, I block her because I explain above. When I don't see her message I feel good because I don't read hate about Russia. When I feel I'm curious what people that I block saying I unblock him.

[crisp zephyr]

[high raven]

They eventually did (Mistake)

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mannerheim-cigar-smoking-gif-13663252

[tiny bluff]

Do you smoke irl?

[summer sphinx]

yes

[high raven]

It's not based on anything tangible, there was no systematic oppression of Lebanese Muslims by Lebanese Christians during that period, the latter were helpful to the former and didn't force a dhimmi system or likewise on them in return. It's just that the French bankrolled the Christians, so the Muslims were left politically misrepresented and economically disadvantaged since what was left of the Ottoman empire was too busy persecuting Arameans, Armenians and Kurds

[summer sphinx]

blahblahblah

[tiny bluff]

@turbid dome

[fresh flower]

Can you delete your account

[fresh flower]

Christians bad because they spent their money on education

[cerulean pivot]

Hi lol

[summer sphinx]

shut up white boy

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/رهبر-آقا-رهبری-خامنه-ای-فرمانده-کل-قوا-gif-16371073303613428780

[pseudo flume]

[high raven]

(Had to do something)
But if you're interested in knowing what the opposite would've looked like, Lebanese Muslims bankrolled by the Ottomans, read up on the 1860 Mount Lebanon conflict, wherein around 25000 Christians were killed for opposing a feudal system

[tiny bluff]

This is also a problem with people that see things in black and white. It was a political suicide to allow impartial parliament in a country with a large muslim population (~46%) and surrounded by other muslim arab countries that would fund and bolster the muslim ideologies in Lebanon without a doubt. The muslims were ironically more oppressive to non muslims when in majority in other arab countries with political power than without it. Also the french (a christian country) bankrolled lebanese (an established Christian country).
But conveniently ignoring muslim countries funding other muslim countries. Like Egypt, PLO in Lebanon, Jordan etc

Its kind of stupid to claim muslims as minority (~47%) is NOT a minority in a region with muslim arab countries all around it.

[grim folio]

Hi

[somber pollen]

Stopyappingseriously

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pops-head-up-surprise-interested-mentalist-listening-gif-2429420855867690657

[trim veldt]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVoigKMCFDL/

thevoiceofpak

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[turbid dome]

@tiny bluff

https://erf.org.eg/app/uploads/2022/11/1669718266_201_860061_1614.pdf

this shows just a few ways that Muslims were deeply economically disadvantaged, you’ll notice christians are less in public school and much more in private school.

This is in addition to the sectarian political divide where Muslims were disadvantaged compared to christians in Lebanese government.

Of course, this is part of the mechanisms of colonialism, by creating a collaborator class the French gain a strong local ally.

I think it’s wrong to view it as simply a religious thing and treat Arabs and Muslims as static. Christianity reformed in many ways by economic development and colonizing and killing a large part of the world. Muslims are not static but rather dynamic, if you constantly discriminate against them you create the radical factions, if you educate them and treat them as equal it’s likely to go away. By prioritizing “safety” what you do is create the radicals which wish to destroy it. By prioritizing equality you remove those incentives and allow for equal development.

[tiny bluff]

#Paragraph 1 What you're describing as oppression is class based advantage. The rich send their kids to private schools, it's not uncommon

[high raven]

I mean to be fair for most of the history of that region it has been black and white, it used to be pan-Arab or not, now it's pro-Israel or pro-Palestine. A third option wanting nothing to do with either rarely gets acknowledgement, and has more often than not been dragged into it 🤷🏽‍♀️

[turbid dome]

Yeah, that’s the point. The classes were formed by the French (and other tbf). Class based advantage is oppression

[tiny bluff]

It's wealth disparity and it can't be classified as oppression

[tiny bluff]

How is it oppressive?

Were the Christians barring the muslims from public schools or in any facilities for the rich

[fresh flower]

Because they don't deserve it despite countless of genocides and a dhimmi system or something

[tiny bluff]

You're not helping 😭

[fresh flower]

That's literally the gist of it

[woven quail]

Fuck grammar

[fresh flower]

We've had this talk before

He believes they should "Fight for it"

[turbid dome]

Wealth disparity is quite literally oppression in the Marxist lens,

“It establishes an accumulation of misery, corresponding with accumulation of capital. Accumulation of wealth at one pole is, therefore, at the same time accumulation of misery, agony of toil slavery, ignorance, brutality, mental degradation, at the opposite pole, i.e., on the side of the class that produces its own product in the form of capital.”

[tiny bluff]

That's just a philosophy

[fresh flower]

Why didn't your ancestors die for Islam 😡😡😡

[turbid dome]

There was obviously discrimination in who gets to study abroad, as an example. But yes, the French handed money out largely on religious lines in order to ally a community

[fresh flower]

How is this a bad thing

[tiny bluff]

That's what the arabs do in middle east

[fresh flower]

French saw Muslims kill Christians, French give Christians money and power. Why's this bad

[tiny bluff]

That's something much more common in muslim society than you think. Who do you think funded PLO, Egypt, Jordan, and why do you think many muslim countries are more vocal about palestine than ukraine

religious alignment

[fresh flower]

Tbh I blame the Lebanese Christians a little

They should've actually oppressed

Doing nothing was their downfall

[tiny bluff]

Because you put a question mark on this

[high raven]

Can you add red arrows please

[quasi needle]

pam bondi fired

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-bro-celebrating-best-friends-squid-game-2-my-guy-gif-8389215730122450876

[grim folio]

You really hate islam and arabs all day you don't stop whining about it

[fresh flower]

Bro's throwing a tantrum without reading the chat first

[manic juniper]

Not the first time he does this

[fresh flower]

Bro he called me a Jew as an insult for having "Feminist" in my bio

[quasi needle]

UTTERLY incoherent 😭

[crystal kayak]

What is so enticing about a married woman's rear

[pseudo flume]

Ask your neighbour's visitor

[tiny bluff]

In your head, arab = Muslim or something

I can't condemn a country's leaders actions because he's a muslim?

[pseudo flume]

Wait, isn't it right

[shell hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-stare-at-paper-gif-5257839294650729742

[tiny bluff]

You're like the jews that keep calling everything antisemitism

[tiny bluff]

No

Just because someone is an arab doesn't mean they're a spokesperson of islam and above criticism

[crystal kayak]

Aren't you married?Watch out for enigma

[pseudo flume]

But devil is spokesperson of islam

[tiny bluff]

[fresh flower]

People are so mean here 💔💔💔

[crystal kayak]

That dude is paranoid😭

[fresh flower]

There's like 5 nice moral people

[tiny bluff]

If you think devil is paranoid, you haven't met haznooo yet

Oh, he isn't on this server

[crystal kayak]

Wasn't he on eng hub

[shell hemlock]

why looking at only married women’s rear to be specific

[crystal kayak]

I would like to put martiin first but then I realized he is Jew and American

[shell hemlock]

the unmarried ladies would feel left out that enigma isn’t looking

[tiny bluff]

😭 Why look at any women at all bro

[crystal kayak]

Walah I don't know,I asked him and he called me"An angel."

[shell hemlock]

cuz the first glance is sunnah akhi

[grim folio]

Idk i just see you don't stop talking about them

[grim folio]

He was saying he didn't do a bad thing at he's life

[tiny bluff]

Because there's a major war in arabian peninsula going on? And all eyes are on them and EVERYBODY is talking about them?

[crystal kayak]

I didn't say that

[grim folio]

You need to think about other stuff

[tiny bluff]

Do you want me to not watch the news or talk about a potential world war

[tiny bluff]

True, I don't have nice things to think about though

I think about politics most of the time

And the other time its creepy animal facts

[fresh flower]

Martini turned out to be evil, he supports killing Christians

[grim folio]

Yes you did when we were arguing that everyone did a horrible bad thing at least in all life you said i didn't do anything bad at all

[tiny bluff]

Isfrun?

[manic juniper]

What did I do now

[fresh flower]

She wants humans to go extinct so dinosaurs come back

[tiny bluff]

We're talking about moral people in Enghub

[tiny bluff]

Shawn?

[high rapids]

[fresh flower]

He's white we're moral

[tiny bluff]

Eugh 😨

[tiny bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ehh-whats-that-brother-gif-6962057458982185335

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-fact-checked-alien-fakt-zheked-true-gif-818054962495396425

[crystal kayak]

There read my message uptop

[fresh flower]

That's racist bro

[tiny bluff]

I thought ts was norwegian 😭😛

[crystal kayak]

I said I neither killed or touched anyone inappropriately

[tiny bluff]

Before I read it 😭

[manic juniper]

Iceland people look like that

[grim folio]

That was a question

[crystal kayak]

And then you started talking about rear end of married xx chromosomes

[crystal kayak]

How is that a question

[tiny bluff]

Are people in Greenland considered white

[crystal kayak]

@grim folio you also tried comparing killing insect to killing humans which is wild

[manic juniper]

Whiteness isn't a big thing on there or Europe, it's mostly about nationality

[sweet wolf]

john hammond is cackling in his grave

[crystal kayak]

when did this happen

[grim folio]

Fun fact Crocodiles sweat from their eyes

[manic juniper]

Or your ethnicity, in this case they have two ethnicities and mixed people in Greenland

[manic juniper]

You forgot the tongue

[grim folio]

No they don't

[manic juniper]

Crocodiles can't sweat. Those are salt glands

[grim folio]

They have cleaning teeth problems

[manic juniper]

Sweat is a mammal feature

[manic juniper]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.212.4498.1045

[crystal kayak]

Our local atheist,who likes to say "ad hominem" how have you been?

[manic juniper]

They literally have the same glands on the tongue

[grim folio]

Most of the time they open their mouth to let birds clean their teeth

[grim folio]

I didn't know that

[manic juniper]

Not all of them tho, I think only some crocodiles do and all alligators and gharials lack them

[manic juniper]

It's a myth

This comes from an account of ancient Greeks in Egypt but I don't think it was ever seen in the wild

[grim folio]

I think big too can't sweat

[manic juniper]

I guess it could be possible but whichever bird used to clean their teeth either went extinct or changed habits

[manic juniper]

No, only mammals can sweat

[high rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387851816171212820/1480905540174352506/image0.gif

[tiny bluff]

Just in general

[manic juniper]

The sweatiest mammals are humans followed by horses

[sweet wolf]

Spinosaurus nerfs weren't enough for y'all and now slandering crocodiles

[grim folio]

That's not what i heard

[manic juniper]

They're buffs in coolness and uniqueness

[tiny bluff]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DVgYbi_iolD/?

@fresh flower Sweden was thisssss close to getting nerfed

[manic juniper]

I don't know a single animal that can sweat that isn't a mammal

[sweet wolf]

I'm sorry I might have to switch teams unless we're discussing dinosaur park

[manic juniper]

And most mammals don't sweat much, dogs and cats only sweat on their paws in significant amounts

[grim folio]

Oh bro you still talking about Arabs and Islam you need to think about other stuff like crocodiles or something

[manic juniper]

Sweat wastes a lot of water

[sweet wolf]

Don't horses sweat too

[tiny bluff]

Reptiles are cold blooded creatures, they can just adjust themselves according to outer temperature

[shell hemlock]

reminds me of mrsheen

[manic juniper]

They're the only ones besides us that sweat in any significant capacity as I said earlier

They sweat for the same reasons too

[tiny bluff]

It's not about Islam

[pseudo flume]

Man said objectively true

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-gigachad-giga-chad-chad-giga-gif-17045906263069769854

[manic juniper]

Not according to the modern definition, half of them are while the other half is endothermic

[tiny bluff]

Crocodiles have dual eyelids

That's something i do know

[manic juniper]

Mammals do too

But in a lot of mammals they don't work properly or at all

[high rapids]

1v1, Zylsia vs Crocodile

[manic juniper]

Yet another feature mammals lost because they are stupid and cringe

[sweet wolf]

Is that the reason we have the pink in the corners of your eyes

[thorny steeple]

Heart of tel aviv❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 🚀

[tiny bluff]

ah

[grim folio]

Dolphins are mammals ig

[cerulean pivot]

That's antimammalism

[tiny bluff]

Yes

[cerulean pivot]

They love grape

[tiny bluff]

It acts as a drain and it's the third eyelid that we lost

[thorny steeple]

How do they fast

[manic juniper]

The caruncule? No, that thing has glands so it has other uses

[sweet wolf]

good koi

[manic juniper]

Yes

[grim folio]

They do bad stuff to fish and other sea creatures

[sweet wolf]

Anime guy leaning against a fridge with the dialogue box on top gif

[tiny bluff]

With crocodiles, their corner of the eye has shutters

[fresh flower]

Past couple days

[tiny bluff]

and then normal eyelids

[fresh flower]

All atheists are coming out as evil and immoral, just as I predicted

[manic juniper]

Wait unless you mean the thin layer of skin next to the caruncula, yes that's the remnant of the nictitating membrane

[plain ruin]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Is it time to invite every woman on these servers now that I'm owner

[manic juniper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plica_semilunaris_of_conjunctiva
It still has its uses

[cerulean pivot]

Mashallah

[manic juniper]

We need some moral point of reference, I chose reptiles since my simple atheist mind can accept their existence

[sweet wolf]

Idk the term but it's like the the thinnest faint pink, almost translucent membrane between the sclera and that pink triangle in the corner

[manic juniper]

It's difficult to deny the existence of reptiles, especially in Antarctica

[sweet wolf]

No I'll get banned

[manic juniper]

It's the plica semilunaris

It serves other purposes but it's limited in function compared to how it used to be

[thorny steeple]

It doesnt tell how they fast what they eat what they not

[old totem]

Oh No.

[sweet wolf]

How do you know all this 😭

[manic juniper]

Comparative anatomy

It's an homology

[tiny bluff]

Another creepy fact is geckos don't have eyelids so they lick their eyes clean

[manic juniper]

False, some of them do

[sweet wolf]

As in are you studying this formally or something you learn out of fun

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-gecko-gif-11813774

[crystal kayak]

Soo can you please list the 5

[manic juniper]

I studied it for some years

2017 to now

[sweet wolf]

Oh

Cool

[manic juniper]

Snakes however don't have eyelids
None of them do. Or at least, they technically have them but they are transparent (same as those geckos without eyelids)

It's a transparent scale and they shed it after every moult

[sweet wolf]

Any biology I know is from kurzgesagt and real science

What's christian music

[tiny bluff]

some of them don't

[manic juniper]

Most don't

It's not that useful anyway

[tiny bluff]

For example tokay gecko

[manic juniper]

I have never seen a wild gecko with movable eyelids so far

They're mostly in desert and rocky regions

[tiny bluff]

yeyeyeyeyeyea

[manic juniper]

I have seen one irl but it's domestic so kinda cringe

[tiny bluff]

Komodo dragons bite their prey

[manic juniper]

Who doesn't

[tiny bluff]

and it gives their prey infection and causes uncontrollable bleeding

[manic juniper]

Nooo

They use venom

Komodo dragons and some other lizards have venom glands just as snakes do, but they don't work in the same way

It's not that much more infective than other predators such as lions but it has haemorrhagic effects akin to that of certain snakes

[crystal kayak]

Let them celebrate what ever their are celebrating

[tiny bluff]

The thing is their venom is actually bacteria

[manic juniper]

No it isn't, it was deboonked

They aren't that much more infective than lions. They have dedicated venom glands

[tiny bluff]

i watched ts in a YouTube video

[manic juniper]

Could be bullshit

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Anatomical-investigation-of-the-Varanus-komodoensis-venom-system-A-Magnetic-resonance_fig3_24436454

[tiny bluff]

They've venom glands in their lower jaw

TIL

[manic juniper]

Yes, other lizards such as the Gila monster do

https://tenor.com/view/gila-monster-gif-22779931

[tiny bluff]

They're so interesting

[manic juniper]

These are much less precise and more crude in the way they work, venom delivery isn't always efficient or precise compared to snakes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earless_monitor_lizard

[tiny bluff]

Much like octopus

[manic juniper]

My favourite animal too has venom glands and is a lizard

[tiny bluff]

octopus is interesting cause it's intelligent and just a mushy squishy thing

[manic juniper]

I think it's interesting that it goes insane after mating

[tiny bluff]

Really???

Ah senesis

[manic juniper]

It's called octopus' senescence

[tiny bluff]

Yes!! senscence

The female stops eating after LAYING EGGS or smth

[manic juniper]

Bring back reptile diversity

[tiny bluff]

like what

dinosaurs???

Mammals are so diverse and cool

Imagine if ants were the size of humans, I'd imagine they'd be so much more interesting, smarter and cool

Their size nerfs their ability and smartness

I got from a youtube video that ants even clone ants from other species

Not all ants

some ant species i forgot

For slavery

[cerulean pivot]

We're already tearing eachother's with five or less races
We don't any more complications lol

[tiny bluff]

Since all of their species eggs were hatching as queen ants

[tiny bluff]

I don't think human sized ants would let humans live

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah they'll slave most of us

[tiny bluff]

They're more smart than us despite having a much smaller brain

[manic juniper]

A lot more

[tiny bluff]

They'd eat us

[manic juniper]

Pterosaurs and the extinct relatives of crocodilians

There are ants that depend on other ants for certain tasks, some of them aren't able to work and can only fight and "enslave"

[manic juniper]

Not if we are useful

[tiny bluff]

Pterosaurs look majestic

[tiny bluff]

i suppose that's true

[mint parrot]

@cerulean pivot do you know what is چەقەلە

[cerulean pivot]

No?

[mint parrot]

This

What do you call it in Arabic

[cerulean pivot]

Fuck i know it but forgot it's name

[mint parrot]

Green almond in English

[thorny steeple]

I see ty

[quasi needle]

Al Grape

wait those arent grapes Fuck

[viral scroll]

What is that…

[quasi needle]

imposturous grapes

[verbal torrent]

We call thm Çağla

Its good tho meh

[burnt galleon]

@sick bronze https://youtu.be/bKKmAkkEOpE

[mint parrot]

Green almond

[sick bronze]

das wat she said

https://tenor.com/view/alysa-liu-alysa-liu-scuba-dance-gif-8732732581274986893

[viral scroll]

Oh I’ve never seen green almonds before! Lol

[tiny bluff]

Alysa Liu?????

[sick bronze]

yes

[tiny bluff]

Shes cool as hell

i should probably find a job 🙏🏻

Gas prices are hell tho howd i commute

https://tenor.com/view/gameboy-luke-luke-ask-you-how-you-are-sad-you-have-to-say-youre-fine-gif-15547402

I should... look it up

[high raven]

Bicycle if its not too far away

[fresh flower]

They don't have bicycles there

[high raven]

I do that, it works

[viral lintel]

why so serious

[thorny steeple]

He plays chess with himself

[thorny steeple]

They don't believe in my seriousness

[open rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eyes-camera-security-nightvision-gif-12739426533096511488

Your profile

I think you use light theme

[near blaze]

LOL

[pseudo flume]

lol

[open rampart]

[undone stone]

Hello

[sharp crater]

Hello, mortals

[uncut tiger]

you look like a linux user with hannah montana distro

[sharp crater]

Seems so

[uncut tiger]

knew it

[raw dew]

what defines a person their thoughts or their actions?

[vagrant swan]

ehh no clear answer
your thoughts define your potential and your private self n your actions define your reality and your social self
but if want a single answer imma go actions

[raw dew]

f... uck I cant debat with that

i totaly agree

[pine rover]

Yeah I hear de-batting is pretty hard to do, and illegal in some areas

I’m just teasing him for misspelling debate

[fresh flower]

That's mean bro

Can you like be nice

Sigh... Why's everyone so mean in this channel

[pine rover]

lol if you call this mean I’d hate to see what you think of the rest of my memes

[raw dew]

yeah idc let her say anything she wants

[pine rover]

I’m just playing around, I don’t actually mean anything by it

[vagrant swan]

debate her about being playful

[raw dew]

it's okay

[pine rover]

https://tenor.com/view/ponspectors-misato-katsuragi-neon-genesis-evangelion-evangelion-gif-10898433355967129234

[raw dew]

i don't think it's the right time for me

[pine rover]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg

[raw dew]

maybe another day with another topic

[raw dew]

chiken

[burnt galleon]

Using urination to determine the biosex is an unethical and outdated method.

Reasons:

1. Sexual dimorphism isn’t limited to the phenotype and physiology, but also the subconsciousness that comes from hormones and nerves, which affects the gender identity.
2. Some folk can do it from both sides equally without domination or lack a lower half altogether. Some intersexual males can do it from the female side and vice versa.
3. Knowing dominant traits can be done only with a DNA test, but the O chromosome is neither male nor female despite being a variant of X like Y.
4. It’s pervy and amatonormative. Life is funner than limiting it to reproduction and this personal aspect of hygiene.

What games do you like?

[pine rover]

Halo, Mass Effect, Vampire: The Masquerade, The Witcher, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Galaga, Dig-Dug. I could go on.

[burnt galleon]

Have you read Dracula?

[pine rover]

Yes actually, it’s my favorite novel

[burnt galleon]

Cool!

Tell me more.
Why are my family, the Saudi Ministry of Quackery, and online randoms are too invasine with me?

[high rapids]

@high raven Are you still awake?

[pine rover]

That one I don’t have the answer for.

[thorny steeple]

No I'm just high

[fresh flower]

What's the context

[burnt galleon]

Somebody talked abt my urination without a context here.

Those folk never fail in making me laugh.

[vagrant swan]

i like minecraft

didnt read the part at above

[high raven]

Yes

[burnt galleon]

Tell me abt the novel more.

Is there a josei masterpiece similar to the seinen work “Hellsing”?

However, I think they’re just delusional. As they mistakenly think my looks or how I present myself affect my factuality and health by making my true statements false and vice versa. But it doesn’t since it’s more abt self-expression which barely affect intellect and strength, but it does to a minor lvl.

[burnt galleon]

It has V-acting animated works on YouTube.

[vagrant swan]

water is bad because someone drowned in it.

[pine rover]

I know the creator of Hellsing made another show about a pilot being sent either backwards or forwards in time, but other than that I don’t know of anything that’s quite like it. And to be brief, Dracula is about an undead vampire who uses a mortal named Johnathan to buy a piece of property in England, then move there under false pretenses. He wants to find new victims that do not believe in vampires anymore, so that he can freely move about as he pleases and satiate his thirst.

[grizzled fable]

Hi i wanna learn and improve my English i'm searching for someone (girl) to talk with only in English and help me

[fresh flower]

Is there a reason to read short stories or novels besides telling people that you read books

[grave merlin]

who clips videos here ?

[turbid dome]

Self report

[modest dawn]

Hi everyone

Today we will talk about ww2

After usa supposedly win WW2 the Europe countries stayed Desperate for money because without money nobody can take care about yourself , so usa said to Europe countries

"I know we fought but if we be friends again and share our money Europe could be great again

So they Agreed with this rule and then America gave money to Europe

Even if there was countries like Russia that don't agree with this rule

After that America and Union Soviet fight between themselves

But its for other moment

Bye everyone 👋😃

Lmao

[signal remnant]

Is it like to be continued

[modest dawn]

Tomorrow will have more

🤭

🇺🇸x🇷🇺

I just tell it for you

[turbid harbor]

who mentioned me

[turbid harbor]

oh

mamdani is on thin ice

he barely achieved what he set out to do imo

potential socialist governor

https://giphy.com/gifs/jjk-megumi-mr-potential-man-himself-enfxvtDUhstPrsENDx

[chilly yew]

Hi

What about Palestine

[high rapids]

Good Morning

[fair oriole]

What you wanna know?

[proven inlet]

Good morning

[covert iron]

Good morning u too

[karmic roost]

Ohhhh are we allowed to chat about politics here?

I thought that was against the server rules

[wind zephyr]

Yes

[high rapids]

yes

[fervent imp]

Where is your pretty booster roleeeeee

[high rapids]

What are you talking about I have the role

[fervent imp]

But now you’re greennn

[high rapids]

lurker role

[fervent imp]

Yup

[high rapids]

[high rapids]

@fervent imp How are you

[fervent imp]

I’m…. Ugh I’m doing just fine

How about you?

How’s your day?

[high rapids]

What's going on? I´m doing well thanks for asking, my day has just begun it's 7:33 am. How´s your day?

[fervent imp]

My life is just a pure mess these days. Nothing much.

My day was very productive and chaotic. I cooked and cleaned and also baked a cake

[cerulean pivot]

That looks great

[fervent imp]

[high rapids]

That´s life I know it all too well. If you need someone to talk to feel free to send me a dm anytime. It looks delicious

[fervent imp]

I’m hard rock when it comes to venting XD

Can’t even do that for my close friends

Feels weird that they can come and I can’t go to them and vent

Smh

[high rapids]

Do they not want you to come over?

[fervent imp]

My irl friends are back in their home countries 🥲 and my online friends are always more than happy to hear me out. It’s just me who doesn’t like to burden them with my drama and whatsoever

[pseudo flume]

When is lowkey where in Arabic

[high rapids]

I'm really sorry to hear that. But I don't think anyone feels burdened when you turn to them most people are happy to listen and to help.

@fervent imp What is that? It reminds me of a pastry from my country that is filled with honey

[sick bronze]

Wow ?!

[pseudo flume]

I'm thinking about funding Nobu

[crystal kayak]

Fund him with what?

[thorny coral]

Emeralds

[pseudo flume]

Dollars
So he can get his domain active again

[crystal kayak]

[high rapids]

Mangos

[green nacelle]

hi everyone my name is Mavis nice to meet you all~

[plain ruin]

Weird thing about them in English, the official plural is "Mangoes"

The more you know

[high rapids]

WHAT?!?!

[plain ruin]

😭

[high rapids]

[cerulean pivot]

Man goes

[uncut tiger]

grammar police

[fickle umbra]

hi mavis

hruu?

[plain ruin]

Do you not want to go to the US

[uncut tiger]

White people have bad English than me

[tiny bluff]

I am so cringe

I am going to pass out from the cringe

[quasi needle]

are u sure

[tiny bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/gameboy-luke-luke-ask-you-how-you-are-sad-you-have-to-say-youre-fine-gif-15547402

[plain ruin]

Nooo they're English butter then you

[tiny bluff]

The fact that you didn't capitalize the first letter of your sentence and didn't add a question mark is sending me.

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[tiny bluff]

I'm going to talk with a better grammar here.

[plain ruin]

"Simon Go Back gurl"

[uncut tiger]

arent u british, youre supposed to agree wimme here

[tiny bluff]

As I do in all of my other servers.

[quasi needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/santai-2

[plain ruin]

Omit the "a"

[tiny bluff]

No more cringe, nuh-uh.

[quasi needle]

full grammar on discord is in fact.. cringe

[uncut tiger]

the african americans (the hood) has worse english than aladdin

[tiny bluff]

To fat discordians.

https://tenor.com/view/homer-lol-the-simpsons-marge-lisa-gif-8714260

[quasi needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053403886385381390/1281243367182958667/attachment-16.gif

[tiny bluff]

I'm a third worlder, I'm impoverished.

[plain ruin]

JuiceWrld JuiceChud

[uncut tiger]

what does chud mean

[tiny bluff]

Fat brits send me because they're so addicted on boiled beans and BREAD!!

[quasi needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865329221508923405/1145415623501955142/attachment.gif?ex=69d0a72d&is=69cf55ad&hm=119778ea8c71965f547870cf69903d20f758e031b43a31de8b711204945a2cc4&

[uncut tiger]

i saw many white people using that term

[plain ruin]

Just use urban dictionary, I won't always be around

[quasi needle]

i haven’t had beans since i was a wee child ☹️

[tiny bluff]

British food is so cringe and yucky.

[quasi needle]

that we can agree on

[tiny bluff]

You ruined my charade before it even began.

[uncut tiger]

You could've explained to me in fewer words than writing this bs

[plain ruin]

saved myself a lifetime of writing words

[tiny bluff]

It started as a political term, and now it's just something you feel.

Someone who's unemployed, right wing, misogynistic and rude.

[uncut tiger]

Yo chud @pseudo flume

[tiny bluff]

All the bad adjectives basically.

😭🙏🏻

[tiny bluff]

Thy crappy text has the potential of sending thee.

[quasi needle]

i’m going to kill you

[tiny bluff]

For unemployed, you can just use neet.

[plain ruin]

NEET?!?!?!?

@pseudo flume mentioned

[tiny bluff]

He has a job, doesn't he?

[quasi needle]

unemployed and proud

[uncut tiger]

yea

[plain ruin]

NEET is also an entrance exam for medical related fields in India

Therefore, Aladdin mentioned

[tiny bluff]

He is a doctor?!

[tiny bluff]

You're a neet.

[uncut tiger]

what is that

[uncut tiger]

but he failed neet

Ma Sha Allah level 100 already

i turned my auto clicker on before going for jummah prayer

[cerulean pivot]

What game is this

[bronze dock]

Looks good

Weird but good

[plain ruin]

idk something medical field

[tiny bluff]

Unemployed

[tiny bluff]

Ah

[fresh flower]

Lol do you guys work today

Imagine not having a Christian public holiday

Silly atheists

[high rapids]

You have a daily public holiday today

[tiny bluff]

Isn't it good friday

[fresh flower]

Yes

Monday is Easter Monday

[tiny bluff]

I know that

[fresh flower]

Next public holiday after that is May 1st

[tiny bluff]

Are you buying gifts

[woven quail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ursos-fritando-bear

[fresh flower]

I'm not buying shit bro my lil sis is in Legoland my bank account is drained

[high rapids]

I bought some gifts poor sweden

[tiny bluff]

😭

Your flexes are really funny

"Oh I forgot your passport isn't as good as mine"

[high rapids]

ragebait

[tiny bluff]

"Isn't everything cheap in Iraq"

[high rapids]

who said that

[high rapids]

I've already explained to you several times that I was comparing it to Austria. And what I said about the passport was because I'd forgotten that Algerians can't just fly into the EU without a visa.

[tiny bluff]

But it was still funny 😭😂

[pseudo flume]

Let's use better words

My rank was around 50k out of 2.3 millions

[high rapids]

apply in austria

[tiny bluff]

That's like the population of Jamaica

[pseudo flume]

I did qualify for med college but it wasn't goverment funded

[tiny bluff]

Is austria a state in Germany

[pseudo flume]

I'd rather delete myself, even the idea of studying med triggers my PTSD

[high rapids]

good joke

[high rapids]

why did you apply

[pseudo flume]

12- 14 hr / day for atleast 2 years, I've already done enough

[tiny bluff]

What's your language in austria

[high rapids]

german

[pseudo flume]

Good ol dream

Eventually i woke up

[tiny bluff]

Kleindeutsche Lösung

[tiny bluff]

What do you do now?

[uncut tiger]

Construction management at poop housing facility

[uncut tiger]

Yet no AIIMS, what a shame

[pseudo flume]

@uncut tiger wish your every Christan friend a "happy good Friday"
It's good / holy friday for Christan

[uncut tiger]

I did

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Real estate

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Bitch what

Christ died on Good Friday

😭🙏🏻 For our sins

[uncut tiger]

Wait waddafuq

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Damn you, I was setting diaz up

[uncut tiger]

I've already said it mf

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He's setting you up

[uncut tiger]

Should I delete

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No

[uncut tiger]

Alright

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https://tenor.com/view/tom-lizard-tom-lizard-aaah-ahh-gif-13289460104807384511

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You didn't know, they know you're not christian

[uncut tiger]

#💭｜general message

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What are you doing

Why are they not red

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Holy Friday mubarak

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Not cool bro

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Mashallah

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Shabbat soon

[uncut tiger]

And didn't even circle it

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Good Friday mubarak shabbat

[uncut tiger]

Bro is trying to impress all religions

Typical indian politician

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I'm not misogynist

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Today is the day jesus died 1993 years ago

April 3 33 AD

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Bro doesn't know...

Sigh

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Huh?

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The date changes every year

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April 3 33AD is the historical plausible date tho

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Muslims respect Prophet Isa too so I guess being happy that he died is haram

Do tawbah bro

Astaghfirullah

Inshallah god gives you brain

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April 3 he died
April 5 he rose from the dead changing all history forever

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Inshallah that brain works

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but he didn't die

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I'm excited for Easter

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He did, and then he rose from the dead

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Its a subjective thing
Muslims believe that he straight up did not die, and that God would never allow something like that to happen to him
They say that it was only made to appear as if he died

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Are u christian too?

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And christians also have a 50/50 stance on Good Friday, some see it as a celebration of Jesus's life rather than a mourning of his death

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Bruh

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hi everyone I'm Mavis

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How do muslims even know about prophet isa

Islam came after christianity

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We should mourn the pain he felt but should be happy that he took our sins reconciling the world to God

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Are you catholic

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Exactly

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They just take everything muhammad says about him

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"revelation"

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I am non denom studying catholicism and EO rn

[plain ruin]

The Gopels were written a long while after Jesus's death so imo can't exactly take either answer at face value

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Evangelicans are just crazy

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it should be seen as a celebration

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No, this is not even an evangelical thing, orthodox and catholics see it this way too, as a great sacrifice for humanity

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It is about Jesus's crucification and pain

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They were written within the first century and then pauls letters are contemporary with the synoptics too
Not LONG thats actually short when you consider that alexander got biographies written about him 300 years later but jesus has the gospels written within the century he lived

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? What

I didn't know that, it's all about mourning at my local church sermon

That's what I was told

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Yes, I was raised catholic, while there are various mourning like actions/events during mass, the priest's sermons and a lot of the verses are always trying to bring good meaning to it

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The death of jesus on the cross is basically a historical fact no one takes the quran seriously that it appeared to happen

[tiny bluff]

The sacrifice and crucification is mourned. Of course there's good meanings attached to it because he died for a purpose, but it's not seen as a happy celebration where I live.

[plain ruin]

So a good few years later nonetheless
It's just important to keep that in mind when we're talking about history, because it isn't exactly the same as someone writing about it while it's happening, that's all I'm saying

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i appear to have forgotten my easter dates

i’ve skipped every christian assembly for 2 years

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yes its a mixed thing, its not entirely "happy" nor is it entirely "sad" in most places

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😭🙏🏻 Easter is on 5

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i’ve gone to CofE schools all my life 🙏

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It changes dates every year

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i know that

[plain ruin]

Oh wait you forgot the DAYS not the dates

smh my head

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i always mixed up palm sunday and good friday

i last went to an easter mass 7 or 8 years ago

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It's about mourning, though. I don't believe its celebration outside some protestant church branches

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the CofE officially mourns it but it’s kinda half celebrated

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when you consider the fact that we "know he rose from the dead", his death and its meaning is also partially a celebration

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also literally disregard any non-catholic US denomination of christianity as utterly insane

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Most ancient figures dont have contemporary writings

The gospels are first hand accounts on the life of jesus

Also the apostles ofc wouldn't write contemporarily while being with jesus

Jesus claimed to be the messiah and papyrus was expensive so writing when you arent sure about the persons identity doesnt really make sense it was after they saw the tomb being empty and seeing jesus they began to preach and after those years they finally wrote everything down

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how is it first hand when it’s written a century after his death

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I agree with you for sure, I'm just saying that in terms of accuracy and whatnot, we should keep it in mind

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A century? Even with the secular datings the first gospel comes 40 years after jesus
But if you take traditional then its 17 years after jesus
And then you have pauls letters which were written fro. 49-60 AD this aint a century bro 💀 💀 💀

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We don't even know if all of Jesus's ministry was recorded or if it was just the hits

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HYPERBOLE!!!

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Hm

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You were arguing against his wording so you must be accurate in yours

He was correct

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Adding 60 more years aint hyperbole 😭

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And I wonder who told the gospel authors about the nativity story

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actually it’s up to 70

after death

i don’t trust jack from witnesses 60 years after said events

[tiny bluff]

That's not the point

Your belief isn't the point

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The first writing are of paul buddy and all the gospels are first hand lmao no one says the first record of jesus comes 70 years after him 😂 😂

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Wdym?

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i believe jesus existed

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Yes, the point is that even 1 year of delay in writing can introduce some level of error, we're all human

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i don’t believe in miracles

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They were arguing for history against muslims version of Isa being inspired from Christianity

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I'd still trust the first version of events than watered down interpretation of Lord in other religions

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Memory doesnt decay like this
James fodor makes the same argument against the resurrection but he has been responded to by people who actually work regarding memory

https://youtu.be/B2seBW8D2zY?si=Bl82d55umD7nsmpI

1 hour and 13 minutes btw

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He did and some Hebrews made up things on him.

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The gospel authors are supposedly close in age to Jesus

So who told the authors the story about while Mary was pregnant and Jesus's birth? And how would the authors know that the shepherds made it to King Herod and specifically told them about Jesus?

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there’s full evidence jesus existed there’s just no real evidence he did any magic work

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My point is that neither can be trusted

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Ah, so you're arguing for atheism

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It can when you're talking about 10-15 years though

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Shit was written in over 1000 years btw

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people were accused of being witches in the 18th century. you can’t logically preach jesus as anything real when there’s bs like witches nearly 2 millennia later

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That's something entirely different, religion can be evil and you can still respect the traditions/cultures/festivities it gave you

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Not exactly that either, I'm arguing that the argument of "Bible vs Quraan" in this context is BS to begin with

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My Pfp is how Jesus looked like in reality

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One is supposedly divine revelation, a believer would have to trust in that more than a writing from years later

You cannot argue that "They came 600 years later" so its wrong, while the muslims also claim it's divine revelation

While also arguing that "It's just 10 years later so it's alright"

The argument is bs to begin with anyway, since at the end of the day, muslims are supposed to respect Jesus, you can disagree on things, but ultimately the most important thing is love and understanding between the two communities

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you’d find me dead if i was interrogated over events 10 years ago

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There is some internal evidence that the apostles were younger then jesus

The story of mary comes from matthew and luke
Luke says he is writing from earlier sources and the first two chapters are on mary this has been made into an argument by traidtional scholars that because luke is using earlier sources and mary is the focus of the first 2 chapters he must be using mary as a source
Also matthew is a direct eyewitness who of course stayed with jesus for 3 years so he mustve gotten this information from him or his mother

The birth narratives also have a undesigned coincidence increasing the reliability of the story too
Undesigned coincidences are unintentional, interlocking details found in independent, historical, or biblical accounts that mutually corroborate one another without evidence of collusion.

Matthew says when joseph heard archaeleus name he immediately went to nazareth taking jesus and mary matthew never explains why but with the testimony of josephus we get to know archaeleus( i hope i am spelling his name correctly) has zero tolerance for jews 2 jews were hanged and many jews protested then archaeleus basically killed all the protesters at once
So this perfectly explains why Joseph was scared

Josephus is a 1st century jewish historian btw

So two stories are interlocking here

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"Divine revelation" when Christianity was so widespread known by the time islam came around.

[plain ruin]

Hmmm? Wasn't it that the Magi visited Herod and that he sent an order to kill all firstborn male children?

The Magi / the shepherds

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You can propose an idea first, and I can listen to it and have "divine revelation" that it came to me too with certain changes

Plagiarism 🗣️

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10 and 600 are different bruv

Muhammad and the apostles are worlds apart

One guy made a fan fiction saying jesus prophesied him
And the others were writing biographies about him

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Wrong Herod

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The entire Old Testament is like this though
Each new book retroactively changes a lot of things in previous books

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That's not the point though

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I am talking about the event of joseph being scared in the birth narrative that connects historically on how josephus describes archaeleus
Keep in mind matthew doesnt explain why joseph ran away with mary and jesus but when looking at the historical first century context this increases the reliability of matthew writing the truth

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Herod and archaeleus are two different people bro

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I am talking about the gospels, and the birth of jesus, you're talking about something entirely different with all the kililngs

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Jesus was established as the figure to be worshipped by christianity so I'm very skeptical to believe the idea was a "revelation" than inspiration

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I am also talking about the gospels 😭 😭 and one event in the birth narratives WE are talking about
You arent tracking

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Exactly... I'm talking about how the gospel writers know about Herod sending the order to kill firstborns

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They had more earlier sources then we did
We need to understand that only 1 percent of ancient writings have been passed through to us

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They could name them, I feel like the Bible scripture sort of lacks in that department, the Gospels sort of lacks in that department compared to the rest of the Bible

Most of the Old Testament is directly copies of what the authors themselves wrote/witnessed

The Gospels are mostly recollections and have some information which we don't know how they received/from who they received the information

The rest of the new testament is mostly first hand accounts

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You should argue about religion to sanna who's an orthodox, you'll get better answers

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Hmm

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i think it's better not to argue about religion

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Yes

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Christianity inherently has some unanswerable logical questions regardless of who you ask

I think that's okay though
I'm just saying that if you have things that you can't know in your own religion, you can't be the authority on whether another religion's view is real or not

This shouldn't be about Islam being fake or Christianity being real, but about the love between humans

If you're going to be a prick and say this is fake or that is fake, then I'll do that to you as well

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I don't like some aspects of religion either but finding flaws like this one, in traditions and festivities just pisses me off even as an irreligious person

[plain ruin]

Thats exactly my point

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all religions have ontological and epistemological flaws its baked into their dependence on an abstract but immutable great entity

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I'm being satirical

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Ancient biographies didnt mention every sources also they were writing to a specific audience in the first century so they already presumed that they would know herod killed children in the century they are living no one would ofc question the event being described in matthew

The birth narratives can easily have earlier sources they could've asked mary or jesus
And also the genealogies of the public were public and the government had access to them too so they could easily track all this

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What's the point of finding a flaw in Easter or Good Friday

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i like easter eggs

i like painting easter eggs

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nobody asked

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i like drawing flowers on them

cut the bullshit tho does anyone here watch pro wrestling

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Presuming to know Herod gave the order is one thing
Matthew makes it seem as if he's directly quoting Herod and the Shepherds

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Because Christ as a religious figure was already present in Christianity, you can't just claim the Christian religious figure and change some aspects about him

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Cool

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Bro go to fucking china already why are you still on discord 😭

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I'm saying that we can't know either story as true or false and we can't verify either with all the things we have

And instead of trying to say "Christ died" or "Christ didn't die"
Just believe in what you want, and enjoy your life

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For example, I wouldn't believe in a Christian version of Prophet Mohammad, why'd I do the same with Jesus

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why can’t we just hold hands and love each other (halal)

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Ong

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Ew

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very serious chat

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I know lily will spit on her hands before holding them with others

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The shephards came to mary's house of course mary would be inside her house so the disciples couldve just asked mary what the shephards said because she was present there
Also there is internal evidence the male apostles had gotten this information from one of the female disciples husband chuza who worked for the son of herod so thats pretty cool detail if you ask me

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it’s true i practice it daily

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the shepherds went to the manger😭

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Bro

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I Love Men.

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Yes I know

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you just said they went to... nevermind😭

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Bro?

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in the context of first-century Palestinian domestic architecture, the manger was often located inside the house

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is there a problem

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I love you

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what the frick

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https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-13191678230910881285

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Except it was not Mary's house... The Bible explicitly states that they were look for an inn, and one of the inns offered them the manger

How can you say that that is Mary's house?

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According to what historical sources he didn't die?

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Nobu go appeal your ban

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According to what historical sources he didn't die? 🤔

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Khyah https://tenor.com/view/saturday-baby-laugh-giggle-gif-12859194

[shell hemlock]

bye

i hate this kid

[plain ruin]

Wangmin is Nobu btw

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When Luke 2:7 states there was "no room in the inn," the Greek word used is kataluma, which is better translated as "guest room" or "upper room" in a private home, rather than a public hotel.
in the context of first-century Palestinian domestic architecture, the manger was often located inside the house

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CONFIRMED????

[plain ruin]

Yes. So exactly how was this = Mary's house? 😭

[high rapids]

Someone like you and all you know and how you speak

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That was not her house