🧠｜serious-chat

[tiny bluff]

😭😭😭😭 Whattttt

THAT'S SO COOL

[tough niche]

what's so serious about this place?

[tiny bluff]

Do your parents ever tell you to enlist in the army and continue the family tradition

[turbid dome]

Yeah the spy in the family wrote a book 😭😭😭

He was spying on the Japanese in ww2 and was in camouflage. This island they were spying on they ended up in a ditch in camouflage and this soldier goes to “relieve himself” in the ditch and he had to stay still and quiet 😭😭😭

[turbid dome]

No, the army is ig considered too lowly or something, plus I hate the military.

My dad almost ended up in the air force but went to college instead

[tiny bluff]

Yeah, military is like legal hitmen for the rich

[turbid dome]

Yup

Actually funny thing, the Vietnam dog tags had a typo on them

[tiny bluff]

Was college still really expensive back in the day in US

[turbid dome]

Yeah, my dad went to a private engineering college and got a physics degree which made it even more expensive, he only got his debt paid off in his mid 50’s during the Brandon presidency

[tiny bluff]

That's insane

[turbid dome]

Yeah 💀 my mom went to a public uni and got paid off same time

[rocky coyote]

i get where youre coming from. i just couldnt hold my pedantry back

[tiny bluff]

On that note though, your dad has a physics degree, that's so tuff

[tiny bluff]

Aren't public unis supposed to be affordable?? 😭

[turbid dome]

Never used it 💀 ended up working for an airline that no longer exists and ended up in the corporate world because there just wasn’t demand for that sort of job at the time, private school still came in handy for him because the elitist things helped network him and gave him plenty of opportunities.

[cerulean pivot]

First thing i see in the morning

What da dog doin

[turbid dome]

Well yes but they’re not, she went to community college to do part of the bachelors and went to a different public uni to work on masters but never completed it

[turbid dome]

Getting abused for pleasure by the monstrous non vegans ofc

[cerulean pivot]

And they didn't give y'all discounts cuz y'all are jews
Wallahi America is doomed

Antisemitism at it's finest

[turbid dome]

Lmao she’s not so I’m technically fake but according to Chabad and Israel im Jewish sooooooo

[cerulean pivot]

That's already enough dw

[tiny bluff]

Working for an airline that doesn't exist should be a book name 😭

[tiny bluff]

What was her degree?

[turbid dome]

😭😭 it got folded into American Airlines. Side perk: he got free tickets wherever he wanted, and he learned to travel from his rich friends in college who would pay for the travel.

[turbid dome]

Bachelors in anthropology going for a masters in sociology, she ended up doing some archeological work in Jordan as part of anthropology so it’s a bit of all of that stuff.

[tiny bluff]

Your family has crazy lore

[turbid dome]

Yeah just wait till you hear how there’s a Jew married to a Nazi (not kidding)

[tiny bluff]

What 😭

[turbid dome]

Yup

[tiny bluff]

Who is the Nazi? So much more interesting if it's the wife

[rocky coyote]

willing to bet its the wife

[tiny bluff]

"Shut up you jewish bastard!" 😭

[rocky coyote]

careers were much more prolific and accessible before 2008 werent they

[turbid dome]

No my aunt is married to this guy who is a major career Air Force guy, he believes all this crazy stuff and so one time when we were over there he just tells her to handle paying the contractors since Jews are good with money, when she mismanages it he starts cursing her, another time when we saw them he would just randomly say “Jew” to her like it was supposed to be a joke.

[turbid dome]

Pretty much

[tiny bluff]

Give me my money

[rocky coyote]

i thought "nazi guy" here would mean an actual member of the part

sad

i wish i had an extremely prejudiced relative

[turbid dome]

I mean he has all the beliefs but hes too busy buying grifter merch like Steven crowder mugs and Trump hats and producing illegal ghost guns.

[rain lava]

I think they do it for both olympics and paralympics. Which transgender will never be allowed in woman sport because i think that just unfair to begin with

[rocky coyote]

ya that means he was just an ordinary anti semite

[turbid dome]

Oh also he’s too busy with beer, once we bought him 72 cans and my aunt said it would only last him like 5 days

[rocky coyote]

how's his liver

[turbid dome]

Idk, I know his heart definitely isn’t good though lol

[tiny bluff]

Oh what, why is your aunt putting up with that piece of shit person

[rocky coyote]

news flash you can make up for having shitty beliefs with professional wellness and money

a blackrock employee means good career and good money

[turbid dome]

I think she sort of got taught to love the “traditional marriage” authoritative/abusive man + he scams the VA by getting 100% disability (like a full salary) but also working a job that easily makes him 6 digits a year

[turbid dome]

I wouldn’t say professional, but certainly money

[tiny bluff]

No money gives back peace, imagine being insulted in your own home all the time. I'd crash out all the time

[turbid dome]

I say scam but it’s legal

[rocky coyote]

he was an air force member i wouldnt rule out his performance just because hes a fascist unless it really left a dent on his working brain

[tiny bluff]

😭😭😭😭

[turbid dome]

No he’s insane, the reason I say not professional is because he got reported to HR multiple times for saying racial slurs to non-white coworkers

[rocky coyote]

well there you go it did mess with his office etiquette

[turbid dome]

Yeah he can’t help but showing a little bit of racism in the workplace

[rocky coyote]

because ive never met a cool-tempered bigoted coworker either

[turbid dome]

Yeah if they’re bigoted enough that you know it they’re always gonna be insane.

[rocky coyote]

im never gonna accept any hypothetical situation where the racist could keep their hate to himself and not yelp whenever their trigger word is brought up

there genuinely is none

[turbid dome]

Yeah, they have to showcase it all the time

It genuinely warps their brain to the point of no return at a certain point

Like they can’t even act normal

[rocky coyote]

racism turns you into guttural people irl more than conservatives think woke people will scowl at you at most minor incoveniences and i wish i could say this simply bc i want to imagine racists in equal scenarios

[plain ruin]

Martini, isnt it like 1AM for you or something

[turbid dome]

It’s always projection

[turbid dome]

Almost yeah, I normally only sleep at 2am

[plain ruin]

Yeah you're usually up around this time, was wondering about the time

[rocky coyote]

like most politically uninformed people can bear bad faith readings of groups they dont interact with on a daily basis

[plain ruin]

Why does Burger King sell tea in India
Its over

[turbid dome]

Yeah sometimes earlier sometimes later

[rocky coyote]

but theyre at best like

concepts and ideas indirectly planted to them from indirectly instituted beliefs

[turbid dome]

I find it worse when they’re politically active tbh, because then it goes from ignorance to purposeful hatred

[turbid dome]

Yup

[rocky coyote]

i actually cant feel anything vehement towards racists ngl

i dislike them less than i am constantly startled

that someone with even a profound ability to studiously engage with groups alien to them is clogged in the brain with that many malice and incuriosity

their drive to learn lineages of history is to spite and weaponize trivias to degrade people

which is mind numbing to me

[rocky coyote]

nah i respect actual racists they at least stand their grounds with pride

[turbid dome]

I mean I do prefer that one aspect, that they’re not cowards who hide their beliefs

Others try and find more polite ways to say the same things

[cerulean pivot]

I see my future and it's bright

[turbid dome]

LMAO

[turbid dome]

||Air Force guy helped bomb your country btw||

[rocky coyote]

eh i dont exactly consider coyness and snarky wits polite. being polite is one thing but you cant hide the meanness in trying to make sense without sounding too opinionated

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh i meant the Jewish wife

[turbid dome]

Good luck

[turbid dome]

Yeah me neither but most of society considers it more polite then being explicit

[cerulean pivot]

If a jew enter shiasim would he still hold his economic mindset or will just be poor

I can't risk it

[brazen agate]

she'll be brighter and faster than light you js need a few dollar bills

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭😭😭

[cerulean pivot]

The whole year will be Shabbat ( i cant afford electricity)

[brazen agate]

Shabbat shalom my friend

[rocky coyote]

#observing with no explicit intent to curse upon a whole demography doesnt make you seem less enthralled compared to real venomous racists. i got roped into a discord feud with a turkish guy where almost everyone in that server pointed their guns at him for saying "BLM" had its time as some 15 minute fame in "The Current Activist Thing" zeitgeist and that its Palestineans turn to take the stage

[turbid dome]

Ig it depends on the things they say, a vague gesture at crime rates is outrageous to some but not offensive to others, whereas an nword is universally condemned

[rocky coyote]

you couldnt exactly pretend not understanding him but where he was logically sound in one observation he fell apart and antagonized himself in nearly everything else

[rocky coyote]

bringing up crime rates is exclusively intentional though

[turbid dome]

Pretty much the classic kernel of truth and rest is disinfo and misinfo.

[plain ruin]

How much would 2.2lbs of beef cost in your area @turbid dome

[rocky coyote]

2 dolla

[turbid dome]

Yeah but some people find it acceptable

[rocky coyote]

i guess

[turbid dome]

Idk if beef is sold at that amount, I’ve seen it sold by the pound so let me see

[plain ruin]

(That's a kilo)

[turbid dome]

Makes sense, we don’t use this rest of the world stuff as a primary measure

[turbid dome]

We don’t have 2.2 but we do have 2.25, $16.18

Normally I just get one pound which is $8

[plain ruin]

3x higher

Not as bad as I thought it would be

Did you read about the story of an Indian kid who lied about having cancer and deceased parents (or something like that) to get admission and free meals/stay at a university in the US

[turbid dome]

Yeah, ngl I didn’t know we even had it sold at that amount, almost everything in the store is 1 pound or 2 pounds

[turbid dome]

No but I respect that lmao

[plain ruin]

He got caught because he posted about it on reddit, the same reddit account he used to ask about that university

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭 self sabotage

[plain ruin]

Well, he went pretty far I think

Food, living and tuition were basically free

And it wasn't even at a major private university

It was one of the smaller community college type places

[turbid dome]

I mean a random Indian kid could probably use it more than a US kid, especially cause if he gets money he could send it back to his family in India

[turbid dome]

Oh wow

[plain ruin]

Yeah, speaking of Indians going to the US

I'll be there within 5 months

[turbid dome]

Oh damn, what state

[plain ruin]

CA

[turbid dome]

Oh, what city?

[plain ruin]

Got a job w/ Royal Carribean, I've got to undergo some training

[plain ruin]

Undecided, constant travelling between cities

[turbid dome]

Oh ok, will you be on the ships or offices?

[plain ruin]

Ships, managing the network infrastructure

[turbid dome]

I know they like to employ Indians on ships as cheap labor and using international waters to have some questionable labor practices

[plain ruin]

No living costs, unlimited food, insurance, etc.

[turbid dome]

Oh, that’s one of the better jobs compared to being a janitor or waiter then

[plain ruin]

That's for the low end jobs, true

[plain ruin]

Not sure about janitors, but waiters get tipped like candy on a Halloween night, I've got family members who've done waitressing/bartending onboard

[turbid dome]

I think it’s pretty shitty working conditions but I bet if you work at the bar you get a ton of $

They make a ton off alcohol

[plain ruin]

Yeah the working conditions depend upon your rank/role pretty much

[plain ruin]

I'd have a rough time when boarding/deboarding at most, but otherwise flights and hotels and food and common medicine are all free

[turbid dome]

Yeah, do you at least get a decent cabin near the bridge or are you gonna be stuck near the loud engine where you’re vibrating a bit 💀

[turbid dome]

Why that font on YouTube

[plain ruin]

I'd be getting a more decent/safer cabin for sure, and unlimited internet access compared to my plebian family members

[turbid dome]

lol

[plain ruin]

I'd literally be a stripe above them

There's the uniform and whatnot

[cerulean pivot]

I hope whoever invented that font die horribly

[tiny bluff]

I'm more concerned about which 2-3 countries express such psychosis

[plain ruin]

For the lower end roles, they're only allowed like 1-2 hours of free internet access while onboard the ship btw (for the entire journey)@turbid dome

During the deboarding hotel stay, they have unlimited internet access

[cerulean pivot]

Great detoxification method

[turbid dome]

Yeah that’s shit for someone who spends weeks of their life on a ship

[plain ruin]

(I won't get to detox)

[tiny bluff]

"Psychosis" because the guy's concern was so valid, killing insects for not even food but clothing is wrong

[plain ruin]

4-5K$ with no living costs/food costs is a decent deal though

Monthly

[tiny bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-giga-chad-scream-mirror-gif-15250052683530088091

[turbid dome]

Decent until you consider the profit. Must be torture though seeing a ton of people with disposable income and you’re stuck as a servant, it goes beyond being a waiter at a normal place, it’s like waiting at an elite club (even though non rich people do cruise it requires disposable income so they’re at least middle class)

[plain ruin]

Oh I'm talking about my role, I'll just be connecting people to internet and making sure the internet works 💀

And the payment devices

Otherwise I'm sitting around doing whatever I want 😭

[turbid dome]

Oh that’s nice

[plain ruin]

I've talked to one of the on-board HR people, my role is pretty much waiting for issues and addressing them when they come, I can play/study/do whatever until an issue pops up

[turbid dome]

That’s good ig, do you get free access to all the onboard amenities too?

Like free gym and such?

[plain ruin]

The only other thing is the wake up and sleeping times

[plain ruin]

YES, every. single. thing.

[turbid dome]

I mean not bad ig

[turbid dome]

That’s sweet then

[plain ruin]

Gym, Medicine, Swimming Pool (certain restrictions), Events, Food, etc. etc. are all free

Can eat as much as I want as long as the food is considered safe

[cerulean pivot]

Seems like you're scamming them atp

[plain ruin]

Well hey, if it was an american in the role, they'd have to get paid 10K a month minimum

[turbid dome]

Lmao, that’s good then. must suck if you have coworkers who are stuck sleeping next to the engine room getting nothing 💀

[cerulean pivot]

Fair enough

[plain ruin]

Well, all of this also applied to the roles of people in my family who did the more basic jobs

I'm going off of that, they've worked with RC for 20+ years

They've basically travelled all over NA, EU, East Asia without ever needing to apply for visas/pay for their own tickets/hotels

Coastal areas, obviously^

[turbid dome]

Yeah makes sense

[plain ruin]

My only concern is trying to get in for the world cup games

I may not be allowed until I've already worked for 3-6 months

@turbid dome its over, i'm dumping everything I make into the US market

[uncut tiger]

Sounds like a call center

[plain ruin]

It's worse, I have to ask old people to hand over their phones while I figure out what's wrong

[magic olive]

I could not find a bot useful for this chat, but one exists that converts speech to text. The thing is no one uses vn here in the first place.

If anyone got any suggestions do let me know

[turbid dome]

Lmao

[uncut tiger]

Ma Sha Allah brother, earn halal in Sha Allah

[plain ruin]

I will donate to Balochistan

[uncut tiger]

Stop funding terrorism

[plain ruin]

I will buy you a visa

If you donate to Balochistan

[uncut tiger]

How do you "buy" a visa

[plain ruin]

We call it a bribe

[uncut tiger]

Haram

[plain ruin]

It is very halal if it helps you prevent haram activities (racism)

[brazen agate]

what

[plain ruin]

You've not done as much research as Diaz

[uncut tiger]

Shawn how much does the call center pay you

[rain lava]

Why the hell your profile kinda lookin cool rn

[plain ruin]

4-5K monthly

[versed bane]

stop chatting in general and serious chat at the same time. hoo

[uncut tiger]

Ty ty, it's probably gonna go away cuz last day of nitro

[uncut tiger]

Alright now get married and make some dozen kids and live happily EVER after

Typical indian man lifestyle

[plain ruin]

didn't factor in the religion mate

Hindus lead having multiple children, then its the muslims

Christians and Atheists are at the bottom of the list

You racist pakistani

[versed bane]

what's wrong?

what are you guys talking about?

[plain ruin]

How racist he is

[versed bane]

lemme read the chat

[nova apex]

Well well well how the turns table

[uncut tiger]

Wait I forgot what religion are you 😭

[analog rose]

Hello lads

[shell hemlock]

shawn is agnostic iirc

[uncut tiger]

Genchat is so ped0 rn ukhti you can reside here for a while

[thorny steeple]

Is it true quait prince become christian

[uncut tiger]

the conversion story is from 12 years ago bro

Idk might be fake, I'm not sure

Also Why'd he do that, anyone committing apostasy has certain legal rights taken from them, lose their inheritance, their marriage can be annulled, and could become opened to honor killings

[crisp garden]

what r yall talking abt

[nova apex]

My fellow brothers are dying

[fresh flower]

Several good reasons to support a Christian state in the middle east

[slender coral]

I'm atheist

[summer sphinx]

I'm not talking about transgender here bro

@rain lava this

[slender coral]

@hybrid iris you muted me

[uncut tiger]

salafi

[slender coral]

You didn't answer me on this. If you consider me a coward because I'm not confronting my Muslim family on their religion, then what about Muslims who are in similar situation to mine with families that follow other religions? You consider them cowards as well?

Not wanting to talk with religious fanatics about religion is not cowerdice, it's just rational.

They talk a lot about the situation in the middle east these days

[fresh flower]

Imagine being salafi when your most liberal scholar was banned from hajj 💀💀💀

[slender coral]

@fresh flower "Anti-zionist propaganda" 😭

[frozen cape]

Nice

[slender coral]

It's not about who is better. Isreali war crimes are just more and more brutal.

[frozen cape]

Yo why'd you delete that

[fresh flower]

You either support killing Jews or you support killing Muslims there's no middle ground for most people

[plain ruin]

Who deleted what

What was deleted @slender coral I must know

[rain lava]

i just realise that mb 😭

yall goodluck with the gas prices 😢

[high rapids]

Hail the People, Comrades and Supreme Leader

[cerulean pivot]

Nazism at it's finest

[torn onyx]

@cerulean pivot hi

[cerulean pivot]

Hi

[dawn herald]

hii

[rocky coyote]

larp larp larp sahur

[versed olive]

Hi

This Olivander guy is always here, ragebaiting us with the Khameinie pfp

[plain ruin]

[clever sundial]

Hello

[zenith folio]

Hello wsp

[uncut tiger]

He is the interim CEO of this channel

[fresh flower]

"Ragebaiting"
"Trolling"

Never the truth of "Having consistent morals" 💔

[high rapids]

he is doing a good job, he is a great guy!!

[slender coral]

He says that we say one side is better than the other.

Ok, what did they do? Compare the number of deaths, the amount of civilian infrastructure destroyed, the size of land under occupation and who occupies it, and tell me which side has established an apartheid system.

It's not only about big numbers though

[plain ruin]

The big ratio is far more important

[slender coral]

Palestinians never called for an apartheid state and never established one. They also do not practice illegal occupation.

[wind zephyr]

Minecraft?

[plain ruin]

Let's not forget cover ups either.

[wind zephyr]

Hm

U don't support israel right?

[fresh flower]

Only moral choice is to support neither and force both to be subjects of Christian rule

[wind zephyr]

Oh

[plain ruin]

1. The warnings they give do not align with what they actually attack, this has been proven (same goes with radios and flyers)
2. Israel arguably does the same, putting military buildings and complexes near civilian areas as well
3. A big reason on why the area is that densely packed is because of Israel's repeated land acquisition
4. Israeli forces literally strap bodies of Palestinians to vehicles, this is far more deliberate than hiding in a populated area, which is only that densely populated because the land around it was taken away
   https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6390/The-Israeli-army’s-use-of-Palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields-has-been-documented-on-a-large-scale
   https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-army-human-shields-80f358dd2c87a1123f26ffada159701c

[high rapids]

I meant Olivander but yes Minecraft too

[wind zephyr]

Are u minecraft?

[high rapids]

Yes I´m Minecraft_562

[wind zephyr]

Real?

[plain ruin]

1. It was not "from" the British, it was under administrative control temporarily, after the local arabs helped the British against the Ottaman Empire
2. Some own/owned land legally, the previous offers to "give land back" are pointless because they are involved in excursions to take more land even to this day
3. There is an issue about the quality of land that was offered to the Palestinians, once they were ready to try to negotiate a two state solution. Any search about why the Palestinians rejected these offers will immediately explain this.

[wind zephyr]

Ai used

[plain ruin]

Cite this 😂

"More Land" is also not = "Quality/Liveable/Workable Land"

[frozen cape]

the two of you aren't using the same definition of apartheid

[fresh flower]

Are you Jew or Christian

[plain ruin]

A 90% return of the west bank... That's NOT the entire land

It is, it's a citation unlike yours

Correct yourself^

And the west bank has been further occupied since then as well

Currently, Israeli soldiers actively do excursions in the west bank and randomly block roads

You haven't actually sent any source

Maybe, go ahead and DM

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[plain ruin]

Your own source says it, not the entire land

Not really, its all mostly desert, the west bank has some river access but they dont even have the parts of the west bank that have access to the river, and more and more land has been taken from the west bank since then

[quasi needle]

using the ADL as a source 😭

[plain ruin]

The rest of the areas have more water access and therefore better agriculture

A lot of the area was screwed because of the ottoman oppression of the arab and jewish population

[prisma cipher]

1. You don't know the reasons for placing the military facilities in areas populated by civilians. 2. Israel doesn't stop the fact that the facility is located in peaceful regions. If you're trying to make Israel look good, they don't have the option of shooting at civilian areas.

[fresh flower]

Jews want all the land.
Muslims want all the land.

Subject both to Christian rule and there will be peace

[plain ruin]

The human shield argument makes no sense, Hamas hides in any buildings they can

The IDF straps people to vehicles https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172zcwzycnvpcg

[prisma cipher]

You said Iran deliberate place war stuff in civil regions it's bulshiet.

There might be million reason for this

[plain ruin]

He's not great with English

[quasi needle]

it’s a defensive tactic?

[prisma cipher]

Imagine million because infrastructure fittings for it, it easily to get there, get supply anything

[fresh flower]

Israel does the same

[plain ruin]

What excuse is that to bomb a hospital where people are undergoing surgeries and life saving procedures?

[prisma cipher]

Like school in Russia fittings for military stuff just in case they were building for that

[plain ruin]

IDF soldiers have dressed up as medical staff to raid hospitals, they're clearly capable of going in on foot and taking out legitimate targets instead of blowing a building to pieces

[tiny bluff]

How are iranians using the internet

[prisma cipher]

In case of war civil place here in Russia building the way they fittings good for war stuff

[plain ruin]

Israel can easily show restraint and do a direct raid of the hospital instead of bombing it to pieces, they have a choice

[tiny bluff]

I see so many Iranians or at least people claiming to be iranian, but isn't there an internet blackout in Iran

[prisma cipher]

And you will be like why they do it in school!!! You just dumb and know nothing also listen bulshiet Israel propaganda they send SMS to civil people

Oh my thanks you send me SMS before bombing

[plain ruin]

It's easy to give it a second thought at the bare minimum.

Israel can have the PR win by not bombing a place they know that most of the people inside, are civilians

They can easily make more targeted strikes and work with the world

[fresh flower]

True, some have starlink though. Mostly it's American Iranians online supporting the bombing because they left Islam

Atheists are very dangerous

[plain ruin]

So you're defending the idea of one life for another when it's Israel that kills civilians, but when it's 2 militant groups against each other you're saying that one side shouldn't be fine with trading lives?

[weary moss]

lock tf in

ur time is up

[plain ruin]

They can make an improvement to their PR at the very least, avoid sanctions and blockades

[weary moss]

dangerous to who?

[fresh flower]

Religious people

[plain ruin]

The IDF does use human shields everyday, and not in buildings, but on foot, holding people at gunpoint
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-army-human-shields-80f358dd2c87a1123f26ffada159701c

[cerulean pivot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9_gkjqZp364?si=nI4NU--Vo7I4TiCz

[weary moss]

i don’t think atheists care

on the other hand religious people usually have “non believers” aka atheists which u guys hate

[fresh flower]

I'm talking about in this channel, they're very dangerous

[plain ruin]

This makes no sense, "possible civilian casualties" when its known that most of the building are civilians, you don't just bomb the entire place

[fresh flower]

One wants to limit religious freedom, another wants to displace Christians and force them to live among Muslims

[plain ruin]

If someone's holding a human at gunpoint, you make sure to do all you can to only take out the gunman, you don't just open fire on everyone and say "yeah human shield haha"

[weary moss]

to hate someone is to hate yourself

[plain ruin]

It's comparable
In one case you have 90% of the people in there that are civilians

In the other it's a much lower %

[fresh flower]

They don't target anything Israeli tho, they target Jews

[plain ruin]

Israel's main focus is using military targets as an excuse to bomb anything

And you're ignoring things like this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/15/israeli-police-kill-two-young-palestinian-boys-and-their-parents-in-west-bank

[tiny bluff]

Fuck right wing america

[plain ruin]

Too many instances of point blank attacks on kids to say that the Israelis "exclusively go after terrorists"

I don't see Captagon mentioned

[fresh flower]

None of us are Syrian bro💔

[plain ruin]

Fair, I'll get the glue from India, you get the snus

I don't deny any of the claims you're making about the incidents, that's very rational

But as the "defense forces" of a state, which have a lot of responsibilities and backing from the government directly, it absolutely does make sense that the IDF should be criticized in that regard to do their "defense" in the most humane manner possible

And don't claim that the goals of the IDF are just "To attack the terrorists"
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-cabinet-approves-west-bank-land-registration-palestinians-condemn-de-2026-02-15/

They are actively taking more land, the goals of the Israeli side are not just about Hamas or hostages

[tiny bluff]

The thing is that, Israel shouldn't exist

Not really

Give me 1 reason why Israel or the jews have ties to the land they claim

[plain ruin]

There aren't many countries where the perpetrator of sexual assault in a prison camp gets released from jail and invited onto shows

There aren't many countries where parliament/cabinet meetings actively justify sexual violence/annexation of land

There aren't many countries where soldiers post videos of themselves on Tiktok playing with undergarments of women in cities they're attacking

You cannot say that the Israeli side has "better goals" when these things are allowed to happen and go unpunished

[tiny bluff]

Israeli side has better goals?? Wtf

Who said that

[plain ruin]

He indirectly claimed that Israel's goals were just to attack Hamas, on multiple occasions in the conversation

[tiny bluff]

Yeah, they bombed hospitals and denied entry of aid ships to palestinian civilians because of Hamas

[plain ruin]

They have other goals
Taking over land and resources, attempting to ensure that the Palestinians can never get statehood

[slender coral]

The expected harm to civilians must not be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct expected military advantage. NGOs often document cases where the destruction of entire buildings or residential blocks to target a single individual, and that's viewed as a disproportionat attack, which is a war crime.

Also, organizations such as B'Tselem and HRW frequently challenge the claim of the "human shield" defense in sometimes. In several investigation reports, NGOs stated they didn't found evidence of military activity or "human shielding" at the time of specific strikes on homes, schools, hospitals, or other civilian structures and areas.
Also, the Israeli military sometimes uses broad definitions of "military objective" labeling any building associated with a member of Hamas (including those in civil or political roles) as a target, regardless of whether the building is being used for active combat.

And about the warnings, orders to evacuate are often meaningless when there are no truly safe areas to go to or if the routes themselves are targeted, and warnings do not account for the elderly, the disabled, or those in hospitals who cannot physically leave.

[plain ruin]

The IDF soldiers claim that a prepubescent kid throwing stones at them, allows them to take the kids out mate

That's all that needs to be said

[slender coral]

Lmao

[plain ruin]

And that was just from within the last few weeks^

[slender coral]

@plain ruin don't you think if Hamas was capable, they would've also committed war crimes on the scale Israel does?

[high raven]

They absolutely would

[plain ruin]

Definitely would
The main problem I have is that Israel is a state and is helped and sponsored by other countries, so they deserve more criticism because of their status, or to have their status changed to something else

[slender coral]

Yeah

[fresh flower]

Didn't they kill anyone against pan-Arab or Islamist rule

[slender coral]

I always find it weird how they insist on comparing themselves to a group they claim is terrorist.

[cerulean pivot]

I don't get liberals and their obsession of utopian revolutions

Like how would you fight Zionism besides this way
Genuinely

[hybrid ruin]

Its more of an obsession of tankies rather than liberals.

[fresh flower]

Subject both to Christian rule

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah lol

[cerulean pivot]

Which is ?

[fresh flower]

Make that entire region a Christian state, by force, and make both Jews and Muslims coexist under that vassal state

[cerulean pivot]

Why

[fresh flower]

It's the ONLY solution if you don't want to genocide Palestinians or Jews

[cerulean pivot]

And How to achieve this solution
By throwing bible verses at our bios or what

[fresh flower]

Bomb Israel

[cerulean pivot]

Speak something real or suck it up

[hybrid ruin]

next crusade

[cerulean pivot]

By who

Which Christian country or region is ready to bomb Israel

None !

[fresh flower]

Every Shia, Christian and secular state, then pass the rule to Christians

Sunnis are bums they're not invited

[languid wagon]

This was meant to be serious chat xD

[cerulean pivot]

So y'all just wanna consume us then throw our efforts away by submitting to Zionism after few years cuz that's the Christians norm

[viscid elbow]

They're all bums

[fresh flower]

This is literally the only feasible resolution to that 2000 year old conflict

[tiny bluff]

There needs to be some sort of discrimination against white americans on social media

I'm tired of reading their privileged comments

[fresh flower]

No Zionism I just said bomb Israel

Then force Muslims and Jews to split 50/50

[languid wagon]

It could work if Iran converted to christianity in a political power move xD

[cerulean pivot]

Britans " the Christians" were the founders before
They'll figure it out later
It's not just Israel that's filled with rich filthy jews

[fresh flower]

Christians are safer in Iran than in Israel

Muslims are safer in Christian countries than in Middle East

[cerulean pivot]

See
Just like i said
Y'all are soooo utopian

[languid wagon]

Don't want to sound rude but it's been like that under the British governance (Christian, of course) and it didn't work out too well

[fresh flower]

It didn't work out because they pitied the Jews and catered to them

[cerulean pivot]

Christian this Christian that like it'll solve all the world problems
While the issue is in the people who do horrible stuff under these banners

Ya comrade of the ummah unite

[languid wagon]

The real problem is that religion is even an issue

[fresh flower]

Christians in that region don't, therefore they should rule that region

[cerulean pivot]

No

[cerulean pivot]

Why are you so certain

[languid wagon]

Do you mean that islam is not important for current Iranian rulers?

[fresh flower]

Even if you believe that religion is the issue, you should support the Christians there because they're the only ones calling for a secular state

[cerulean pivot]

Ofc it's
What's the problem in that

[slender coral]

Is it too difficult to focus on military targets rather than civilian ones?
If that's the case, the Israeli side can use this argument as well. They in fact, do, claiming that it's utopian to say they can avoid war crimes.

[fresh flower]

Afaik Christians in the middle east hasn't started a war or oppressed Muslims/Jews for no reason

[languid wagon]

The problem is that if you set up religion as a background for conflict, you end up with an endless conflict

[cerulean pivot]

There are no civilians Zionists in Israel
Just settlers

[slender coral]

Tankies? You mean communists? If that's the case, even they try to justify war crimes and authoritarian measurements of communist countries.

[cerulean pivot]

@fresh flower Also claim the same

And he's an An agnostic shia

[fresh flower]

100%

[fresh flower]

YO WHAT

[cerulean pivot]

Sorry 😔

[turbid merlin]

What is that theme

[toxic lake]

Aren't tankie usually anti-israel because it's associated with the west

[slender coral]

Not all Israelis are settlers. And even settlers are civilian whether or not you like it.

[dusk coral]

Thing is that if we look realll, it's not a religion war it's basically a humanity war and people r labeling it as "religion" what isreal and America is doing it's clearly genocide its not a war of Jewish or Muslims its a war of humanity and how human rights are being suppressed and people face oppression

[fresh flower]

Doesn't make sense to call them tankies when Western military doctrine gave up on tanks and prefers air superiority

[plain ruin]

Are you hindu mate

[quasi needle]

american evangelicals want to bring the end of the world and greater israel needs to be checked off the list for that to happen

[fresh flower]

It's religion bro, and it has been for 2000 years

[cerulean pivot]

Yankees are more suitable
They all act like dumb Americans somehow

[dusk coral]

We just can't take a stand fr right thing or are helpless so we label it as a religion war as a excuse so we wouldn't have to take stand fr humanity

[dusk coral]

Muslimm

[slender coral]

How is it relevant here?
And yes I know about it.

[whole beacon]

Ooh yeah
The resurrection and stuff

[plain ruin]

Alright

[fresh flower]

Bomb them too

[cerulean pivot]

How's that ?

[quasi needle]

greater israel is a project to bring the end of the world and nothing will convince me otherwise

[cerulean pivot]

Either a settler or worse
An idf

[quasi needle]

only demons advocate for it

such as minecraft

[whole beacon]

U just pulled a minecraft

[fresh flower]

Minecraft doesn't believe in greater Israel he believes in greater Israeli world

[whole beacon]

Okay i like how our brains work

[quasi needle]

he specifically endorsed greater israel

[pseudo flume]

I've a serious questions guys, please don't waste my time yappin about stupidity

How to not how?

[cerulean pivot]

Take a shower mate

[fresh flower]

Do you not want peace in that region for Muslims and Jews

[viscid elbow]

Get off discord

[quasi needle]

people whose entire belief is bringing on the end of the world should be barred from power

hence evangelicals should be banned from power

[slender coral]

A civilian is an individual who does not belong to an armed group and takes no part in hostilities.
That cannot be a target even if they are an illegal settler, they retain civilian status until they join the fight.

[pseudo flume]

Shabbat sholom

[whole beacon]

Ur perceptions on how to achieve peace is unhinged.

[quasi needle]

you don’t get peace without eradicating evangelicals bro

[fresh flower]

They're objectively the only realistic ones

[quasi needle]

not saying i want them dead but they have to be removed from the equation

[slender coral]

Politically u mean?

[fresh flower]

Bomb the evangelicals, bomb the zionists, bomb hamas then hand over that region to Christians who actually live there

[quasi needle]

hand it over to tony blair

[slender coral]

You brainwashed Oli so hard Sanna

[whole beacon]

Acheive peace, by aradicating a minority.
Politically yes.
Physically ??? If that's ur argument, ur a fascist.

[pseudo flume]

!hardmute reason: being yellow coloured username

[fresh flower]

It's not brainwashing they're literally the only ones wanting a secular state

[whole beacon]

Fascism unlocked.

[viscid elbow]

I just got unmuted

[toxic lake]

Doesn't bringing a minority to rule the region make it worse? E.g. British raj

[fresh flower]

Wym fascism they're calling for a secular state in both Lebanon and Palestine/Israel

[viral lintel]

i am you

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

[fresh flower]

It's not "bringing", they've always been there and have never been the cause for any genocide and/or war

[whole beacon]

Bro
Promotion of murder is against T.O.S
U would be muted if i were still a mod.
Just know wat ur promoting.

GENOCIDE

@viral lintel we have ur replacement @fresh flower
Dw chat is in dangerous safe hands.

[pseudo flume]

Downfall of moderation

[quasi needle]

u cannot be serious

i don’t agree with him but u can’t be that bad of a snowflake

[pseudo flume]

This is not the true minecraft btw

[fresh flower]

It's not genocide, I'm not targetting a specific group, I'm saying bomb them all then give it to Christians there

[tiny bluff]

That is not Minecraft

[whole beacon]

Oooh
Udk how official discord staff operate.
They don't leave shit to tolerate.

[quasi needle]

they really do

they dgaf

[whole beacon]

Okay
Report that msg and be my guest

[whole beacon]

U will see how fast they can be

[uncut tiger]

guys what does this mean

[quasi needle]

why are u acting like ur in bed with discord moderation

[uncut tiger]

i dont understand

[viscid elbow]

Bullshit

[whole beacon]

😂cuz i was in bed with them for 3 years

[uncut tiger]

also what the fuck is that minecraft pfp doing on his underwear

[uncut tiger]

i love the english hub moderation team

[high raven]

They do, but for some reason the liberals and atheists in this channel oppose making it a secular state

[whole beacon]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[uncut tiger]

let me delete it, the mods will get angry

[whole beacon]

Oooh r8.

[quasi needle]

u were a discord moderator you were not with t&s

[whole beacon]

Its okay from my side

[uncut tiger]

You are not a mod are you

[fresh flower]

Ya Ali it fr makes no sense

[uncut tiger]

also nabi if someone calls for genocide of the zionists would you still mute them

[quasi needle]

because it’s unrealistic

[whole beacon]

I had similar incidents.
Those cases were minor incidents.
Im telling u based on my experience.
Even now T.O.S has gone way more strict.

[fresh flower]

Literally nothing else will or can work

[whole beacon]

Yep

[pseudo flume]

Curse be upon Zionist regime

[quasi needle]

i’m just saying the population of both palestine and israel are insane when it comes to their identity as non secular

[fresh flower]

Islamists (Hamas) do not want a secular state, Zionist (Jews) want greater Israel

[quasi needle]

not just the government the people are insane

[tiny bluff]

Secularism will never work in Arab peninsula

It's idealist

[quasi needle]

especially zionists

[fresh flower]

I'm advocating to force them both under a Christian state, they ALWAYS turn secular

[quasi needle]

but you can’t just force israel

[tiny bluff]

No, where has that work

[viral lintel]

if i were minecraft i wouldve cooked his ass

[quasi needle]

especially with the samson option or whatever it’s called

[fresh flower]

The only reason is because it's either majority Muslim or majority Jew

[quasi needle]

if they go down they’re taking the whole region down with them

[whole beacon]

U mean liberal and degenerate ?

[fresh flower]

Every single country that was Christian, is now secular

[quasi needle]

they really dgaf bro

[whole beacon]

He is easy dw.

[tiny bluff]

Any country that was islamic majority

[quasi needle]

they only care about nsfw cases

[fresh flower]

Secular as in not letting religion run state matters, idk how that's degenerate

[whole beacon]

Whatever u say.
But u can try it
Be my guest

[quasi needle]

been there done that

they were useless

[fresh flower]

Can you name one that has transformed to fully secular and hasn't oppressed its minorities

[tiny bluff]

This server is like anarchy

[whole beacon]

Wat were u expecting tho?

[quasi needle]

i was expecting them to be useless and they prevailed

they’re one of the worst moderation teams of any service online

they use AI then outsource to poor indians

[viral lintel]

sweden

[tiny bluff]

No, and you cannot either. Because Islam isn't a religion, it's a way of living

[weary moss]

💸

[tiny bluff]

And so is the case with Judaism

[quasi needle]

islam is in fact a religion

[fresh flower]

I cannot name a Christian country that has turned fully secular? 💀

[whole beacon]

Meeh
Keyboard warriors thinking they are political scientists.
All words mentioned : secular..... bomb em all. Eradicate.
Idk wat to take seriously, the absence of knowledge or the possible rage baiting

[tiny bluff]

No, a majority islamic/jewish state that is secular

[whole beacon]

Not according to my experience.
The least they can do, is 24h limit on ur account.
Which u got for 5 times now.

[tiny bluff]

It was not literal, I'm not here to argue semantics

[fresh flower]

Oh then yes I can't name an Islamic or Jewish state that has turned fully secular because both of those are incompatible with liberal or secular values

[quasi needle]

what does this even mean

[weary moss]

do you know why people fast

[tiny bluff]

I don't support genocide, I am just supporting the fact that mods are useless

[whole beacon]

Well
Saying we should introduce secularism to ethno nationalism
Wtf is even that
Bro is lost.

[viscid elbow]

Bcz they've been told to

[weary moss]

yes thats true

[quasi needle]

i’m sorry your messages are only partially coherent

[whole beacon]

In The server ?
Well sure as hell i wasn't useless.

[languid wagon]

Turkey under and after Ataturk

[whole beacon]

Its ridiculously naive and ambiguous.

[fresh flower]

The alternative to peace in that region if you don't want secular state is:

• Deport all Muslims from that region
  Or
• Deport all Jews from that region

[viscid elbow]

Who's gonna deport em

[whole beacon]

Again
If genocide doesn't work

lets introduce

Ethnic cleansing

[weary moss]

but the idea of fasting comes from having an empty stomach for long periods makes mind almost "hallucinate" and it strengthen the connection to the divine. thats what traditionally shamans or people of religion used to do, similar to psychedelics where it "opens an eye" for some people.

[fresh flower]

You tell me, it's what yall want because you don't support a secular state

[fresh flower]

It's literally what you're advocating for

[viscid elbow]

Secular state ain't even a realistic solution even if it was it wouldnt work

[whole beacon]

Nope
Where did i say such thing?

[languid wagon]

@fresh flower Jordan is another one

[fresh flower]

By opposing a secular state you either want it to be fully Islamic or fully Jew, neither of those want the other

Which one are you choosing

[fresh flower]

Jordan is not a secular state, it's a constitutional monarchy and Islam is the state religion, the king is literally a descendant of Mohammed

[tiny bluff]

The fact that this has to be a question, remove Ayatollah's picture from your pfp at this point 💔

[whole beacon]

Im not opposing it.
Im saying its extremely hard to uproot ethno nationalism and introduce secularism to Palestine or Israel (if thats ur case)
Idk if ur arguing for a binational state or Smithing.
But ur just uttering word without context and without having and future realistic plan.
All because u don't understand the bloody political environment of the region.

[tiny bluff]

Wait, Olivander opposes US intervention in Iran

And palestine right?

[quasi needle]

it being a theoretical solution doesn’t mean its practically feasible

in the middle east’s current state israel has to be removed for any idea of peace

each passing week they bomb another neighbour

[fresh flower]

Idk it seems like you guys keep saying "Secularism doesn't work" and "It's complicated" and aren't explaining why when the reason is obvious, Islam just doesn't work in a secular state

[tiny bluff]

So what do you want?

[whole beacon]

At least develop a plan for ur theory to make it reasonable.
Right now its like saying we can turn the sea into drinkable water.

[languid wagon]

You still hadn't commented on Turkey

[whole beacon]

Ffs ur just that fkn dumb.
Where in the bloody hell did i say secularism doesn't work??

[tiny bluff]

It doesn't

[quasi needle]

feasibility shifts with the times

[tiny bluff]

Not in middle east

[quasi needle]

for as long as israel is a demonic expansionist aggressor, it has to be eradicated

[fresh flower]

Bomb both Hamas and the Zionists, make the Christians of that region the custodians. Christian countries ALWAYS turn secular and an extreme Islamist is safer in a Christian country than a Christian is in the most liberal Muslim country

[tiny bluff]

How?

[whole beacon]

Can i just say only @quasi needle understands my point.
And has some reasonable take on politics.
Olivander is out of his depth

[languid wagon]

To be precise, they bomb Iranian allies, just as Iran bombs American allies

[fresh flower]

I asked if you could mention an Islamic country that turned secular without opposing its minorities and your choice is Turkey?

[tiny bluff]

We send the israelis to europe?

[quasi needle]

yes but one acts in expansion and the other acts in retribution

[whole beacon]

The ideology and the government yep.
Not genocide the entire population
Which wat olivander is promoting.
I believe he said bomb them all.

[languid wagon]

You didn't mention minorities xD And Kurds are Islamic too

[quasi needle]

that becomes hard especially after the west turned a blind eye to the samson option

[fresh flower]

I never called for ethnic cleansing or deporting people, they put words in my mouth instead of actual counter-arguments.

I said force them both to live under a Christian state

[quasi needle]

true

[viscid elbow]

This one will definitely work

[tiny bluff]

So how can you day you're anti US intervention then because by continuing the proxy war and supporting Israel, that's what US is prompting.

Both Israel and Palestine ARE getting bombed

Which country do you suggest bombs Hamas and Zions

[fresh flower]

I said bomb the evangelics too, I've repeatedly said that the region should belong to the Christians in that region

[tiny bluff]

That was a response to Owen

[languid wagon]

State religion is bundled with cultural background

[tiny bluff]

Doesn't work. They're the very minority

It is going to turn into another lebanon

[languid wagon]

Why do you discuss bombing populations, what is wrong with you guys

[fresh flower]

It's the path to peace

I never said populations btw I said zionists and Islamists like Hamas

[languid wagon]

Sure, when we eradicate life on the entire planet it will be peaceful too

[tiny bluff]

Palestine/Israel is going to turn into shadow govt with a zion, islamist, and official christian party

By olivander's solution

[fresh flower]

No I'm saying enforce the Christian one by force

[tiny bluff]

And what do you think, civilians aren't Zions

[languid wagon]

I've read only this message, no reference to minorites, Turkey fits

[tiny bluff]

Or population can't be extremist Islamic

[tiny bluff]

How is that secularism then

[fresh flower]

I personally don't care if they're civilian or militant as long as they coexist under a Christian state that enforced secularism

[fresh flower]

Because 99% of Christian states turn fully secular

The 1% is Vatican

[tiny bluff]

If govt has a religious connotation that only people of THIS religion can be in the govt, it's not really secular

[quasi needle]

yeah, that’s where like 90% of them are from in the last 80 years

[tiny bluff]

That won't work in a major muslim population

Or jewish population

[languid wagon]

90% out of 40% who survived the initial genocide

[tiny bluff]

How will the state "turn" to secularism

[languid wagon]

Done by a secular German state

[quasi needle]

exaggeration

[fresh flower]

Yes because Islam is incompatible with secularism and liberal values, and Judaism sees both Muslims and Christians as sub-humans.

So the only real options if you don't support a Christian state by force is:

• Deport all Muslims so Jews live alone
• Deport all Jews so Muslims live alone

[tiny bluff]

By forcing people to A) either convert to Christianity
B) Be less Islamic/jewish

How is that ever going to work, you can't just tell muslims/Jews "don't read your books"

[quasi needle]

judaism has far less to do with zionism than islamism does with islamic states

[languid wagon]

Jewish population in Europe didn't have a problem with living in multicultural multi religion countries before Hitler started eradicating them on mass scale

[fresh flower]

That's not what I'm saying though

[quasi needle]

the islamic identify of the middle east is much harder to undo than zionism

[fresh flower]

I've repeatedly said force them both to live under a Christian state

[tiny bluff]

No, its not. Secularism is removing religious connotations in law/govt.

Name one Islamic country where homosexuality is legal

Or like, basically anything thats not permissible in Quran

[fresh flower]

There are none, but I can name several Christian ones where you're not hanged for it despite it being wrong and goes against the Bible

[tiny bluff]

Why would people that aren't islamic follow Islamic laws

That's not really secular

[tiny bluff]

Yeah, sure, any that were majorly muslim once

[fresh flower]

Idk if you're agreeing with me or not

[quasi needle]

i don’t think you understand it

[thorny steeple]

Turkiye

[quasi needle]

that’s what he’s saying

[tiny bluff]

But what is his solution to the major islamic population in arab peninsula

[quasi needle]

the existence of non secular states is why it’s such a divided shithole over there

[sweet wolf]

[quasi needle]

being islamic doesn’t mean you can’t follow secular laws bruh

the united kingdom has something to say about that

[fresh flower]

People can be Muslim, people can be Jew, it doesn't matter as long as they live in a Christian state

[thorny steeple]

United kondom stay away from us

[tiny bluff]

😭💔 Do you understand? I mean that the Arab peninsula is majorly muslim

Not that arabs can't be from other religion

[fresh flower]

I never talked about the whole area I'm talking about Palestine/Israel

[quasi needle]

not what i said

you’re the one not understanding

[languid wagon]

It was the original idea in the 10th century too

[quasi needle]

being muslim doesn’t mean you can’t follow secular laws

[fresh flower]

Who opposed it

[tiny bluff]

It doesn't work like that, take lebanon for example

[sweet wolf]

Can I khyah over y'all

[tiny bluff]

People in majority will want their representative in the government

[fresh flower]

Lebanon isn't a secular state, the ones wanting a secular state are the Christians. Sharing a power structure does not and will not work

[quasi needle]

the lebanese government is also powerless so to use it as an example is meaningless

[tiny bluff]

Yes, that's something I agree with.

And how are you going to make the muslim/Jewish population want secular state when they can have islamic/jewish one

They're literally the majority

What stops them from rebelling???

[quasi needle]

that’s when US intervention becomes quite helpful

but they’d never

[tiny bluff]

Or forming another hezbollah or hamas or like any Jewish zion organization

[tiny bluff]

That's very idealist. Why would they

[fresh flower]

Overwhelming military force

[languid wagon]

He mentioned it several times
Bomb the populations, conquer and occupy the land, enforce christian rules
The guys is basically a modern day crusader
Clearly lacking basic historical knowledge

[viscid elbow]

Olivander is just proposing a modified two state solution atp jews don't belong there and neither Muslims nor jews can live in a secular state

[quasi needle]

it’s very layered

[tiny bluff]

Which country's military force exactly?

Will you recruit total of the minority

[fresh flower]

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

[tiny bluff]

😭 He is insulting you

[viscid elbow]

I was tryna oppose tho

[fresh flower]

If wanting people to coexist is an insult I'll take it

[quasi needle]

for anything like that to arise you’d need more of a leftward swing in the USA, and by left i don’t mean shitlibs like kamala harris and gavin newsom

[viscid elbow]

That's not insulting bro

[languid wagon]

You propose forcing them into a specific solution, not "wanting" it

[tiny bluff]

Clearly lacking basic historical knowledge

[quasi needle]

also the humble samson option:

[tiny bluff]

It drains their resources.

[quasi needle]

if israel believes they’re going under they have a policy to nuke the entire middle east

[viscid elbow]

Me?

[tiny bluff]

I don't think they'll try to "mediate" when they can benefit from proxy wars

[quasi needle]

it’s important to note there is no and never will be any clear cut solution from start to end

[viscid elbow]

Why r u guys even discussing an impossible approach

[tiny bluff]

Which they aren't right now

But US has always benefitted from proxy wars

[tiny bluff]

There has to be some sort of vision of the future. This solution isn't possible at all

It's very idealistic

The left wing in the US will not support "bombing" of the muslims. The left of the US has always been against islamophobia

[quasi needle]

again it’s only possible under the slim chance of a strong leftward swing

that ISNT impossible, it’s just extremely unlikely due to shitlib zionist misinformation on the left and hitlerite evangelism on the right

[tiny bluff]

Atleast the far left, not sure about liberals

[quasi needle]

i’m not in favour of bombing bruh

that’s olivander

[tiny bluff]

That's part of Olivander's situation that we're discussing

[quasi needle]

a secular state doesn’t require bombing the populations at all

if anything it makes it harder

[languid wagon]

It was me, not @viscid elbow . Pointing out lack of knowledge is not an insult, except for an extremely delicate individual which @fresh flower doesn't seem to be. He basically proposes resurrection of the Kingdom of Jerusalem by force (mentioned bombing several times), hoping that it will turn secular over time if original populations are opressed hard enough. Can't you see?

[quasi needle]

well well well

[languid wagon]

Given that nearly all European countries abstained, there must have been something weird with this vote.

[quasi needle]

weird? not at all

[viscid elbow]

Nuh uh

[quasi needle]

colonial powers abstaining and the usual 3 being against it

seems quite standard

[tiny bluff]

Oh yeah, I mixed the two. My bad. I don't see his solution working at all still

[tiny bluff]

No, sorry, my bad

[languid wagon]

Do you mean all of Europe are colonial powers? Speak for yourself, bro. Can you explain in three sentences what the vote was about?

[quasi needle]

UN Vote for World Peace

In Favour: 175
Against: Argentina, Israel, USA

[weary moss]

what does it mean? Declaration of trafficking…?

[viscid elbow]

He literally proposing bombing along with secularising the bombing part wasn't even needed if he just wanted to put forward the secular state idea

[quasi needle]

the title explains it

[viscid elbow]

It's alright

[quasi needle]

it’s a resolution declaring the trans atlantic slave trade a crime

[versed olive]

Even if UN gets full votes on favor side. UN can't do shiy about it.

[fresh flower]

I 100% believe that it's the only path to peace

[quasi needle]

the humble permanent 5’s veto

[fresh flower]

Jews and Muslims will not and cannot coexist

[viscid elbow]

Not at all even if we were to suppose that was possible how long do u think its gonna work

[quasi needle]

there is no 1 path to peace

[fresh flower]

Forever as long as zionists and islamists are oppressed

[quasi needle]

it’s an extremely horseshit convoluted situation

[viscid elbow]

Ure contradicting ur views man

[quasi needle]

their leader is a magat slop consumer

[tiny bluff]

Which country will bomb them

Or which power/organization

[sweet wolf]

They just picking any option because they know the assignment is not graded

[fresh flower]

How? Jews don't want Muslim rule, Muslims don't want to live under Jews. Force them both to coexist

[viscid elbow]

If oppression is the way then why not just oppress the jews cuz they r illegally occupying that land

[fresh flower]

Any that realise that religion is the issue and that a secular state needs to be enforced

[viscid elbow]

U just said they cannot coexist

[versed olive]

What if we convert all Palastinians to Jews or All Israelies to Muslims.
There will be peace

[fresh flower]

I didn't say oppress Jews or Muslims

[quasi needle]

just hand the land back to the uk please and thank you

[sweet wolf]

Bruh

[fresh flower]

On Allah this is a viable option

[quasi needle]

basically a christian secular state

[viscid elbow]

*zionists and islamists

[sweet wolf]

So muslims get the land anyway?

[fresh flower]

You guys are the only ones proposing expulsion, ethnic cleansing or genocide

[tiny bluff]

And what will that country benefit from all of this

[tiny bluff]

No, christians do

[languid wagon]

This is funny because the nations involved and profiting from the process were mostly north African countries which are now trying to play the victim, judging from the votes xD

[tiny bluff]

Muslims get bombed according to olivander

[quasi needle]

the end goal would be the suppression of both islamic extremism and hitlerite zionism

[versed olive]

Where were you when it was surrounding countries when they who tried to take Israelies' land?
Whenever a country attacks Israel, Israel take over a small proportion of their land.

[fresh flower]

Putting an end to a 2000 year old conflict that has fuelled Zionism and extreme Islamist ideology, both of which are harmful to the rest of the world

[sweet wolf]

Ruh roh

[tiny bluff]

How does that affect countries outside of middle east

[hybrid iris]

Most liberal scholar banned from haiji??

[languid wagon]

The conflict is only 80 years old, 100 maximum

[quasi needle]

??? think bro

[fresh flower]

Omg you guys keep putting words in my mouth what is this channel 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[versed olive]

'convert' is the word I used.

[hybrid iris]

Shia doesn’t even consider Makkah as holy place

[fresh flower]

You heard me buddy I'll deal with your Salafi ass when I'm on the train

[sweet wolf]

This channel just might be for griefing

[viscid elbow]

I wasn't born yet

[versed olive]

You're too putting words in my mouth.

[tiny bluff]

😭🙏🏻 What else do you suppose I say when you're saying forceful Christian govt shall prevail. And hamas and zions (How can you distinguish the affiliations) be bombed

[versed olive]

Ok

[tiny bluff]

Of course muslims will get bombed, that's inevitable in your solution

[viscid elbow]

Palestine defended itself Israel's the one who attacked

[sweet wolf]

How about everyone gets bombed

Then it's dibs

[tiny bluff]

Or do you think hamas is like a building and contained in some place that you can bomb

[languid wagon]

@quasi needle here you can get to know the official stance of your country
Source: GOV.UK https://share.google/YcQT2wez8Nx4A8oIC

[fresh flower]

@hybrid iris Do your homework until I'm on the train and prepare a defence for why Yusuf al-Qaradawi was banned from Hajj

[versed olive]

First attack after Israel and Palestine independence, was from Palestine to Israel.

[tiny bluff]

I can't think of any reason, just tell me it

[quasi needle]

how does suppressing islamic extremism and hitlerite zionism benefit the middle east?

[hybrid iris]

I used to volunteer in searching bags in Airport

I humiliated anyone that have تربه in his bag

[tiny bluff]

No, countries outside of middle east??

[quasi needle]

the strait of hormuz:

my fuel went from 131.8p per litre to 149.9p per litre because of israel’s war

[thorny steeple]

hey guys

[tiny bluff]

That's not actually a big incentive for any country to force christian rule on middle east.

Forcing middle east to be christian would offend royalty in saudi, extremists in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, Turkey

[thorny steeple]

what why do u talk about elqaradawy

[quasi needle]

you’re not forcing christianity if it’s secular

you’re bringing in a mediator

[fresh flower]

I have beef with Salafis, I want to discuss the fatwa permitting alcohol with this "Muslim"

[tiny bluff]

How is it going be secular???

The extremists love their country as Islamic. Why would they change?
They'd see it as "westernification"

[thorny steeple]

like iam muslim any muslim know alchol is banned

[tiny bluff]

The solution was FORCING Christian power. And now you're deviating from that

[slender coral]

@fresh flower You are the most educated westerner I've talked to about eastern stuff

[thorny steeple]

do u mean why not make middle east as chiristian?

[quasi needle]

not once did either of us deviate from christian secularism

which is inherently not forcing christian laws

[tiny bluff]

😭🙏🏻 Islamic/Jewish laws aren't secular

[thorny steeple]

wait isn't he from iran

[tiny bluff]

No, he is a larper

[hybrid iris]

An Iranian woman her age is 80 and she was saving her whole life to do haij

Then Failure boy search her bag to find out shia talismans

Then I reported that to Airport security

I miss that time

[fresh flower]

Liberal Salafi scholar banned from all of Europe and Hajj for promoting terrorism 😹😹😹

[slender coral]

Lol
If he told you so he is trolling you. He is likely from Sweden.

[quasi needle]

how are muslims POSSIBLY able to live in secular countries in europe? those poor souls. how do they cope!

[tiny bluff]

Bruh

[thorny steeple]

bro i know yousef elqradawy wait to search with arabic

[fresh flower]

Hhhhhh you gave her the treatment that MBS gives your scholars good job bro 😹😹😹😹😹😹

[tiny bluff]

??? A Muslim in Europe and a muslim in Muslim majority country are two VERY different things???

What are you talking about??

[languid wagon]

He could be a Swedish middle eastern as well

[hybrid iris]

I swear by Allah it’s the only time in my life that I didn’t feel anything even tho I am sensitive to people tears especially elders

[tiny bluff]

You guys are so out of touch with reality, it's so funny talking to you

[thorny steeple]

he didn't tell anything

[fresh flower]

I'm apparently Somali, Iranian, Arab, black and Chinese

[slender coral]

I'm not surprised. Being psychopathic is very Islamic.

[thorny steeple]

wht why

[hybrid iris]

The word liberal and salafi can not be in single statement dummy

[fresh flower]

Why are you not addressing the dog treatment of your scholars why are you bragging about harassing Shia elderly women 😹😹😹😹

[languid wagon]

Well, you live under a secular state of Sweden which unites all nations and religions. That's not impossible.

[quasi needle]

non secularism has fuelled a thousand years of conflict and you’re worried about 100 years of uprisings over secular laws

[cerulean pivot]

These are the ones who claims to be on the right track lol
Imagine bragging on snitch on a 80yrs Muslim women

[tiny bluff]

You're so evil, you're not even a real muslim

[slender coral]

The lack of human decency these folk can have is astonishing.

[fresh flower]

Salafis are so strong online but their scholars hide in France 😹😹😹

[hybrid iris]

I hate people who have tiqyyah since I never lied

[cerulean pivot]

Taqiyah your ass he's atheist

[hybrid iris]

His family doesn’t know he is an atheist

[rain lava]

I have neverr in my life, heard any president around the country said something like this

[fresh flower]

Failure boy has to attend masjid online because his scholars aren't allowed to preach in Saudi Arabia hhhhhh he's an actual e-Muslim 😹😹😹😹😹😹

[quasi needle]

let the man have some fun he’ll be dead by next year

[thorny steeple]

wtf

[viscid elbow]

What independence r u taking abt they were literally settling there forcefully and yes palestine did attack but it was in order to get back their land which Israel had no right over and after this issue was so called resolved by UN Israel was the one who attacked confiscating even more territory then which was allocated to them

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah thanks to the wahabies , they'll kill him if they know

[slender coral]

Bro is a keyboard Jihadist.

[viscid elbow]

Allahuakbar

[slender coral]

He paid the server apparently to have that Ask A Salafi channel

[rain lava]

i will get muted to have a ***** wish upon **m

[hybrid iris]

No one is killed for appotatse

[fresh flower]

Failure boy has to use alarms because the call to prayer comes from a different timezone 😹😹😹😹

[tiny bluff]

No, I am saying it's simply not possible to have secularism in middle east.
Monarchism sure, not secularism

[hybrid iris]

He will be just jailed for 3 days and given chance to repent

[hybrid iris]

All people repent through these 3 days

[cerulean pivot]

Not in saudi these days cuz MBS arrested and killed your extremist sheikhs
Inshallah he'll keep it up

[rain lava]

donald trump is not like other president😫 hes different 😣😣😣

[slender coral]

Never heard of Farag Fouda before? Nagib Mahfouz? Don't speak on matters you don't know about.

Your kind is incredibly violent.

[thorny steeple]

really i agree where are u from

[high raven]

😭😭😭

First message I see

[cerulean pivot]

And in the future , the shias of Saudi will rebuilt Al baqii cemetery on the top of your Jewish noses as they say

[slender coral]

What 😭
It's true lol this kind of folk is often oblivious.

[tiny bluff]

💔

[hybrid iris]

Last 400 people killed are 2/3 for smuggling drugs
Last third it’s for murder crimes

Last 3 years no one been killed for terrorism accusation I think

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah they all gone before these 3 year ig
2014 -2017 isis

[slender coral]

Speaking of this, do Muslim countries need people like Ataturk?

[hybrid iris]

Because the people who killed for terrorism they did already terrorist attack or they helped in it

Like النمر which is shia scholar

[hybrid iris]

Yeah those people are killed for involving in terrorists attack

[cerulean pivot]

Y'all killed him cuz he was questioning your terrorists sheikhs that rules and descrimnate shias back then
Yeah very secular

[plain ruin]

Bism al nobu al rahman al raheem 🙏

[hybrid iris]

Are you stupid

They hold weapone and killed civilians

[plain ruin]

@uncut tiger

[hybrid iris]

They did attack in American apartment

[tiny bluff]

How can a muslim be an e boy

[slender coral]

If anyone is close to Nobu now is the Salafi dude. He is even worse, the guy is literally gloating over me being forced to practice Islam lmfao
Nobu wouldn't get to this low.

[plain ruin]

Nobu's coming back soon

Serious chat will be safe again

[uncut tiger]

is that the first time you used his whatsapp 😭

[plain ruin]

Today, yes

[tiny bluff]

Why are you forced to practice islam

[slender coral]

I live with a family of Muslim fundies in Egypt.

[plain ruin]

That too
But mostly safe because no mod likes reading reports of Nobu

[hybrid iris]

I got Nobu banned

[plain ruin]

All the mods will be kept out

[tiny bluff]

How do you guys have each others whatsapp, how do people even trust each other on discord

[hybrid iris]

Soon maybe this Egyptian dude

This server must stay positive

[plain ruin]

Objectively false because I'm the one who was talking to Seju and Big V about it
You don't need to lie

[viscid elbow]

Big V

[tiny bluff]

Oh shit

[plain ruin]

I had his, he used to have his number available to the public on a website of his
And I'm using a burner number

[viscid elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154245297237655644.gif?size=64&animated=true&name=FrogeExplode

[hybrid iris]

You the straw that broke the camel back

[tiny bluff]

Good luck

[high raven]

Oh no is he back

[hybrid iris]

He got multiple times jailed and muted before that

[tiny bluff]

Good thing you're not in Iraq

[plain ruin]

Only in the provisional council

[cerulean pivot]

Wassup brother
Never seen u here before

[plain ruin]

And you only have 58 messages in #🧠｜serious-chat where he was most active
Don't need to lie

[high raven]

Minecrafts server?

[hybrid iris]

بعدين انا كيف اكلم شخص عنده اكتئاب ورافض يروح عند طبيب نفسي

[plain ruin]

Yes

[hybrid iris]

I am voice boy

[viscid elbow]

I got bored of gen chat

[cerulean pivot]

تراك فمبوي يالخوي

[hybrid iris]

على اي اساس

[cerulean pivot]

Soft pfp and banner
Dude u even have to pu He/him so people can recognize that you're a male

[thorny steeple]

احمس يسطي ايه ده

[cerulean pivot]

How pathetic

[hybrid iris]

ما لها دخل

[slender coral]

Is it positive with religious fanatics around?

[tiny bluff]

Isn't he a salafi

[slender coral]

He is

[cerulean pivot]

ماعنده مشكلة السيرفر مليان هندوس يسبون دينه وربه 24/7
بس مشكلته معاك لانك مصري

[slender coral]

A trash bag not noticing it is a trash bag lol

[cerulean pivot]

Lol

[slender coral]

Or the zionists in Ask A Christian.

[tiny apex]

Why are you Minecraft

[cerulean pivot]

Wdym These are his mates

[hybrid iris]

We avoid using foul language
We don’t hurt people feeling without a reason
We are calm and cooperative

[tiny bluff]

Do you think secularism and democracy will ever work in arab countries

[hybrid iris]

حاولت احذف رومهم اكثر من مره

بعدين هو دخل رومي, انا ما جيته

[viscid elbow]

Without a reason

[cerulean pivot]

The most u can do is report elderly Iranian women to the cops

[hybrid iris]

هو منشني بالشات ذا يبي اتنشن, قلت اعطيه هذا الاتنشن يمكن يوافق يحضر موعد عند طبيب نفسي

[cerulean pivot]

What a champ

[tiny bluff]

Didn't you report a woman going to haj

[slender coral]

Is this guy dumb?

No he certainly is

[cerulean pivot]

I don't get the obsession of Femboys to online jihad

[rain lava]

What this mean in english mohammad ?

[slender coral]

If you are truly concerned about me you wouldn't have gloated over how I'm forced to practice your stupid religion u virtue signaling stupid idiot.

[plain ruin]

Isn't gold haram for males 😱

[cerulean pivot]

Must be a cia psyop

[hybrid iris]

I literally volunteer to report any thing against the rules

Btw she wasn’t kicked from Saudi, but they destroyed those talismans and they were teaching her and they let her pass

Saudi government is so soft regarding people entering haiji, as long as you are not trying to protest they gonna make you pass after taking anything considered bidah

[tiny bluff]

How is he a salafi and calls himself pookie

Might as well wear striped socks and cross earrings 😭😭😭😭

[fresh flower]

No one agrees with me btw they all want war or Islamic state

[hybrid iris]

I am not against what you family do

[tiny bluff]

Lmfao

How are you concerned about him

[tiny apex]

Is your family against your femboy lifestyle

[tiny bluff]

when you support his family

[hybrid iris]

If you publicly ate food then other may be encouraged to do the same

[fresh flower]

They don't know, he hides it like his Salafi scholars in Saudi Arabia hide their teachings

[hybrid iris]

Slander

[cerulean pivot]

What talisman dude
Prophet Muhammad were praying on clean ground or leafs , since the modern terms have changed we're praying one sand stone called turbah

The shias of Saudi also use it , you'll gonna report them all ?

[fresh flower]

Closeted Muslim

[tiny apex]

It would be if it was a lie

[tiny bluff]

You're publicly being a pookie femboy, you're encouraging other Muslim men to be the same

[hybrid iris]

It’s contains what they think as Ali picture

Shia in Saudi doesn’t have these things publicly, they respect the rules

[tiny bluff]

I can't get over his status still

[viscid elbow]

Haramm

[slender coral]

I know u are a scum already.

You really insist on proving, we already know

[plain ruin]

The diabetic man who needs to eat will get beaten before given the chance to show his reports

[hybrid iris]

What an Ad hominem

[cerulean pivot]

Truthnuke right here

[cerulean pivot]

Logic and Philosophy are haram buddy

[slender coral]

Someone should post his message where he said he reported an elderly woman to cops for practicing her religion.

[fresh flower]

Having to say that you're straight in bio while also claiming to be Salafi hhhhhhhhhg

[tiny apex]

Funny how Muslim is near the bottom of his bio too

[high rapids]

[tiny apex]

Saying straight was more important

[tiny bluff]

It would be funnier if he was like, (Pan, men hmu)

[fresh flower]

Hhhhhhhhhh

[tiny bluff]

Which isn't that far fetched

[slender coral]

You guys don't like this but I honestly think he is being a "good" Muslim.

[tiny bluff]

What a piece of shit

[fresh flower]

Hhhhh he's pancake because he's flat out lying about being Muslim

Type of Muslim to become gay when they leave European airport

[cerulean pivot]

Wallahi i didn't read the rest and knew it was about the turbah

[tiny bluff]

😭😭😭 Not the arab hhhhh

[plain ruin]

hhhhhhh zg

[tiny apex]

I think it’s possible to be a Muslim and not be a douche

[hybrid iris]

@glossy bough

[cerulean pivot]

So you know they have it in their homes and mosques yet you didn't report it !!!!! Where's ولاء and براء mate

[tiny apex]

If he came out of the closet and accepted what he is he’d be happier

[cerulean pivot]

Fucking loser

[plain ruin]

@glossy bough start here

[fresh flower]

Hhhhh good boy call for mods after bragging about harassing older women

[uncut tiger]

Wtf

[fresh flower]

Disgusting Salafi thinks it's fun to bully elderly women

[hybrid iris]

They don’t have it in mosques dummy

And it’s unethical to search someone house

[tiny bluff]

Even the Eng hub's local sunni disagrees

[cerulean pivot]

Average salafi champ
Can't do shit for Israel only harassing elderly people

[uncut tiger]

Wait isn't this the guy who thinks Saudi is the true "Muslim" country

[high rapids]

lets bully him

[cerulean pivot]

But it's ok to search people's bags

[plain ruin]

Denial 😭😭😭😭😭

[tiny apex]

How much do they pay you to harass elderly women just trying to board a plane

[fresh flower]

Isn't Vampire the one who threw a fit and muted Devil for sending pic of burning Quran

[high rapids]

I meant I would never do such things

[fresh flower]

Are they both Salafi YUCK

[plain ruin]

Agathin I believe or Jelly

[cerulean pivot]

Ig she's a salafi too

[hybrid iris]

All countries have rules and what is allowed and what is not

If you had Chinese power-bank without European label on it, it’s gonna be banned from entering with you

Why you are mad?

[tiny bluff]

Is being a shia banned in saudi

[hybrid iris]

عجيب
I reported multiple people it’s not about only this woman

[plain ruin]

You talked about enjoying humiliating people...

[fresh flower]

Lmfaoooo she warned me 😭😭😭😭

[cerulean pivot]

Ohh yeah my praying sand stone might explode in the plane

[fresh flower]

These internet Muslims genuinely disgust me