🧠｜serious-chat

[fresh flower]

When did Christians there oppress? When PLO and Shia dragged them into a war? When Israel helped them bomb ISIS?

[turbid dome]

By the Christians btw

[cerulean pivot]

But trust me dude they'll make the country better 🤞🏻

Cuz christians here did it

[turbid dome]

1: during the colonial period they were collaborators

2: I’m not talking about historically, I’m talking about a future

[fresh flower]

You're willing to support displacing an oppressed minority based on a hypothetical?

[turbid dome]

Nvm bro is not gonna get it

Going in circles

[fresh flower]

Say wallah Lebanon wasn't better before Hezbollah?

[cerulean pivot]

Iran before the Islamic revolution ahh ahh

[thorny steeple]

Lebanon was switzerland of middle east

[turbid dome]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questionable_cause

[fresh flower]

I genuinely don't, you're supporting dragging a third party into a war and oppression because France carved out that land for them

[pseudo flume]

Yes you can find plenty of gays ove there

[cerulean pivot]

Most of em speak french beside Arabic and English btw

Make sense

[fresh flower]

If you said "Religion is bad they should all lose their state" that's fine, but you're exclusively arguing against a Christian state despite knowing full well that modern day Muslims and Jews are the oppressors

[turbid dome]

Not oppression, solidarity with the colonized to kick out the colonizer.

[pseudo flume]

Yeah, they're superior relative to the surroundings

[turbid dome]

I’ve never argued for a Muslim state though

[cerulean pivot]

Hmmm
How about the modern day christians

[fresh flower]

Then what?

[cerulean pivot]

In estrogen levels

[turbid dome]

Make progress on domestic issues?

[fresh flower]

There's no way you believe, at least in good faith, that a minority Christian population can coexist peacefully with a majority Muslim one

[fresh flower]

Which ones? I've only discussed those in the Middle East, yall brought up USA and France

[turbid dome]

I believe that reality is because of colonial violence, the Middle East used to be safer for religious minorities when compared to Europe with the constant pograms and the Holocaust. By treating these minorities as seperate from the rest of the Middle East they are cast as a colonial group causing more violence instead of a direction to secularism

Jizya is a shitty indefensible system but better than pograms

[fresh flower]

You'd rather have them go back to this instead of their own state, which more often than not turns secular?

[pseudo flume]

I do believe in modern day Average Christians are more tolerant than average muslims

[cerulean pivot]

Isn't the USA a majority Christian county that's full of christian Europeans ?
How it's not a good representation of a christian country

[turbid dome]

Again, it was economic and historical conditions that drove secularism, not simply their religion

[fresh flower]

Because I'm only discussing the Middle East and yall are changing the goalpost to colonial powers, USA and France instead of focusing on the topic which is modern day oppressed groups of people

[turbid dome]

Using this logic, the Lebanese should become Chinese so they can become secular

[fresh flower]

They shouldn't "suck it up" and "fight for their rights" which has literally never worked in that region?

[turbid dome]

Damn I wonder if history could inform us of how things came to this point and how other countries moved past this point

[fresh flower]

We already discussed secularism, you wouldn't accept that most functional secular states with liberal values were minorities aren't oppressed anymore started off as Christian

[turbid dome]

By suck it up I mean not creating a religious supremacist state, too bad, they have to fight for their rights. Also why do you keep using this phrase like it’s bad? Hamas is fighting for their rights, it’s not just holding up a “no to this” sign

[turbid dome]

I never disagreed with that, what I disagreed with is the fact that being Christian is relevant

[cerulean pivot]

Cuz You're talking about middle east christians like they're of the European goy ones
That they'll Easily give up their lands and dignity to the foreign forces

Ofc most of them fly away to Europe
cuz of the same christians you " supposedly" defend
that are the ruling class of the occupying forces who lead to these circumstances in the first place

[fresh flower]

It's not bad to protect an oppressed group of people?

[whole beacon]

Idk how olivander digest info
All he sees is his point being valid
Regarding the fact that he puts some wild statements #screw-logic-statements. And then circle around the idea that ppl harbor hate for minorities.

[rain lava]

Not at all. Why would i do that ?

[fresh flower]

The argument was literally "Zionist in Israel are as bad as Shia in Lebanon"

[turbid dome]

If you think security is provided by oppression that’s a you problem ig

[fresh flower]

Yes I believe that if you don't want to protect an oppressed minority then you hate that minority

[turbid dome]

Liberal Zionism but I’m gonna call it liberal lebanesism

[whole beacon]

Thanks for proving my point.
Which u can't understand.
Just like the articles I wrote above.

[fresh flower]

Your argument is purely based on a hypothetical despite countless evidence showing that minorities don't fare well in the Middle East where the majority of the population is Muslim

[turbid dome]

“If you don’t support Israel Lebanon being a Jewish Christian state you’re antisemitic anti Christian.”

[cerulean pivot]

• be a wealthy christian country
• destabilize the poor christian countries
• why are they coming to us leaving a small portion there ?
• why the arabs came to our military bases there and conquer them ?
• the small portion of christians living peacefully with shias and sunnies!!!
• WHERE ARE THE RIGHTS OF MINORITIES

That's your argument oli

[fresh flower]

Yes, your alternaive is "suck it up" despite knowing of their displacement and genocides in that region

[turbid dome]

No, the alternative is secularism

[fresh flower]

Wtf happened to this channel Minecraft defends ped0s now Martini defends displacing an oppressed minority

[turbid dome]

It’s like telling an Israeli to suck it up and be equal to the Palestinians

[whole beacon]

Zionism isn't liberal in the first place.
Wats he saying

[cerulean pivot]

U should pay us

[fresh flower]

Please bro again for the 5th time tell me why Christian countries turn fully secular and liberal but Muslim don't

[sweet relic]

Bruh why

[turbid dome]

Yeah well liberal Zionism is when you pretend to have humanitarian concerns

[cerulean pivot]

Consider us as a training project where you develop your skills for the real market

[fresh flower]

Wym "pretend" you literally said they should suck it up😭😭😭

"Christians did bad in South America and USA therefore Christians in Middle East shouldn't have their own state that will turn secular"

My uncle killed a guy while drunk driving therefore I should be jailed

[shell hemlock]

hi guy

who else got the role aside from oli

[fresh flower]

Just me I'm literally the only consistent person here

Everyone else fell off

[turbid dome]

Many christian countries which have secularism are located in Europe, where they were able to grow economically as a result of colonialism, fueling the rise of capitalism and diversity of thought. Muslim countries were subjected to that colonialism. Many Christian countries such as Uganda that didn’t have the benefit of colonizing the world are only secular in name only.

[cerulean pivot]

They gave it to him cuz he's a zio now

[shell hemlock]

probably cuz you complained abt the mods being illogical so they had to give you the role to shut u up

[turbid dome]

“Suck it up and be equal to your Muslim neighbor” is definitely a cause for alarm

[fresh flower]

And because of this, in Europe, you're willing to throw minorities in the Middle East under the bus?

[fresh flower]

When it literally has never worked? Yes

[quasi needle]

should’ve seen me back in 2024

[turbid dome]

Because of this we can understand secularism comes about not by a specific religion but because of allowing development.

[fresh flower]

Did it work for the Assyrians Martini

[shell hemlock]

they thought oli have oil

[cerulean pivot]

Bollocks

[manic juniper]

Your uncle killed some guy while drunk driving, for some reasons he's still to blame in 2083 when his descendants kill others while drunk driving

[turbid dome]

No further inquiry as to why

[thorny steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405649642988896306/1486754156088655922/ac87075e8fe137304ffcb3be182a5c01.gif

[fresh flower]

Wallahi I thought you were an atheist, why do you refuse to say that one specific religion actively combats liberal ideas and secularism

[thorny steeple]

Life without User Minecraft
( Very peaceful )

[quasi needle]

evangelical is another word for spawn of satan

so is american protestant

[rain lava]

I would never file a report in eng hub

[cerulean pivot]

You don't even know him

[quasi needle]

minecraft has been discord hitler since i joined

[high raven]

Glad we all agree that Lebanon should be a Christian state

This channel is healing

[turbid dome]

Christianity and Islam are very similar, the main difference is Islam is a little more ridiculous in its founding, but it doesn’t change the ideas held, they’re both similar and both stand in the way

[quasi needle]

at least 2 and a half years

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-19808527

[cerulean pivot]

Peak heresy astaghfrullah

[fresh flower]

Bro started a civil war with one comment and then left 💀💀💀

[fresh flower]

Nah bro you're trolling, you refuse to accept that one of those, in modern times, is considerably worse for secularism and liberal ideas

[manic juniper]

Isn't the issue the Middle East itself, Kosovo is Muslim majority but no such thing happened

[high raven]

I'm looking at paint, it's very difficult to settle

[turbid dome]

*because of how history has played out, which isn’t static.

Step 1: colonize people and stoke sectarian conflict

Step 2: look at how barbaric this sectarian conflict is!

[fresh flower]

For where though

[cerulean pivot]

That's what we're trying to tell him for the past hour lol
Different places different people
Can't treat them the same

[nova apex]

But why in india we're still facing disruption?

[fresh flower]

????

YALL using colonialism in Europe and USA as examples

[turbid dome]

It’s post colonial

[cerulean pivot]

Because u compared a good christian country to yours!

[fresh flower]

Step 3: Tell the left over oppressed minoirities to suck it up and coexist with Muslims despite knowing that millions of them have been killed in recent times

[cerulean pivot]

How would you know what a good modern Christian county is then

[turbid dome]

Bro take off the ayatollah pfp and put the pope 😭😭😭

[magic olive]

Strong dollar

[cerulean pivot]

Put the big yahu

[fresh flower]

I literally never did, I've consistently been talking about the Middle East

[sweet wolf]

https://klipy.com/gifs/backpack-prank-bomb-prank-classroom

[nova apex]

You have got to explain it cuz it doesn't make sense

[fresh flower]

Me: Hey I think an oppressed minority in the Middle East deserved their own state, they haven't killed anyone and just been dragged into war

Yall: You're worse than Hitler

[manic juniper]

Most Eastern European countries were Turkish or Austrian colonies yet they didn't undergo this

[turbid dome]

More like step 3: tell them to be equal

Also in Lebanon the Christians were literally the oppressors, France didn’t create a Christian state to protect them but to serve their own interests and use them as a collaborator class lmao.

It’s more like

Step 3: tell the ex collaborators they have to be equal now and it’s time to adopt secularism instead of oppressing them

[cerulean pivot]

We were saying that it'll be a Jewish state by time not even christians would like
And you were like " nuh it won't happen cuz we have secular christians countries here blah blah "

[turbid dome]

Different form of colonialism

[toxic lake]

Aint majority of Indian oil come from Russia tho?
Why does it disrupt India?

[manic juniper]

They even had failed socialist states that still kept being secular unlike middle eastern countries

[fresh flower]

"Plz stop fighting"? No way bro please no

Wallahi you guys are pulling my leg

[manic juniper]

Saudi Arabia was barely colonised even in comparison with Kosovo or Serbia

Or Morocco, they even had time to occupy Western Sahara

[nova apex]

I'm talking about the lpg crisis

[fresh flower]

Jews have their state, Muslims have several, you tell me I'm insane for saying that Christians there should have one too?

Why?

"None of them should, they should all be secular"

[turbid dome]

And despite it not exactly being secular it’s moving in that direction, though it will take a long time, as it do in Europe

[cerulean pivot]

We should just give em one because of the diversity aspect
What are in Oscar nominations

[fresh flower]

Yes and a dwarf fits in a kangaroo pouch, that's just ridiculous though

[turbid dome]

Still post colonial, I forgot the term but it’s a type of colony that upon independence adopts imperialism

[fresh flower]

They already had one, yall arguing that they should lose it and suck it up

[cerulean pivot]

We should also have a black state in Egypt cuz why not

Lot's of sudanese there

[turbid dome]

What about a Jewish state in Palestine

[fresh flower]

You'd oppose it if those blacks were genocided and displaced by those Egyptians?

If not, you support Israel

[crisp zephyr]

How about establishing a Kurdish state in Iraq?

[fresh flower]

"The Palestinians should just suck it up and learn to coexist"

Isn't that your solution

[cerulean pivot]

The whole world was christian at some point
So do other religions before it
They all become a minorities now
If we take your words seriously
Iraq would get shredded into more than 30 pieces

[turbid dome]

Crazy inversion of reality

[fresh flower]

It's your solution wym, or does it only apply to Christians

"The Palestians have been backed by foreign colonial Islamic powers that displaced Kurds, Assyrians and other miniorities, therefore Palestinians do not deserve a state and should suck it up"

That's word for word your defence

[turbid dome]

There’s Palestinian Christians btw.

Also the point is that Palestinians are fighting against the colonizer, no colonial power exists in Lebanon, though the closest thing to it are the Christian collaborators.

Even then, the onus is on the Israelis to learn how to not oppress people.

[turbid dome]

????

[fresh flower]

It's ridiculous when it's about Palestinians but not when it's Christians?
What gives

[strange iris]

America is the biggest silent colonial power existing in Lebanon. If the American Embassy sends out a request, the government obeys without hesitation.

[cerulean pivot]

Wallahi y'all have made communism make sense for me

Ya workers of the ummah untie

[turbid dome]

May be the dumbest thing I’ve heard today, Palestinians were colonized and tried revolting against ottomans too btw.

Also, it would be like conflating Germans with Christians here ngl, conflating an ethnic group with a religion makes no sense

[cerulean pivot]

Religion is the opium of the masses

[fresh flower]

"They have absolutely no right to fight back and form their state, they should suck it up and learn to coexist as they're funded by a colonian country committing a genocide in Sudan, and by the UAE who harbours slaves from Asia"

See?

[turbid dome]

Inshallah we shall achieve secular communism

[fresh flower]

And Christians and minority ethnic groups have never been oppressed or killed by Muslims

[cerulean pivot]

In the hands of Yankees
Amen

[turbid dome]

Yeah, complete false equivalency, the equivalent here if you wanted to be 1:1 would be impossible.

[woven quail]

Guys do ya all think Iran will do what usa say?

[turbid dome]

No let’s do third worldism

[turbid dome]

No

Anarcho-communism third worldism

[fresh flower]

There's 0 need for equivalency if you're willing to throw them under the bus despite knowing that they've been killed in that region before

Unless you're willing to completely ignore that

We should remove all wheelchair ramps, disabled people should suck it up and they do not deserve to have their own place

[cerulean pivot]

Lately I'm watching a guy on YouTube called Hakim
An iraqi socialist
His channel is very unique

[crisp zephyr]

Are you going to abandon your Shia faith? Switch to a class narrative?

[woven quail]

Then the war will start

[cerulean pivot]

https://youtube.com/@yaboihakim?si=gTYe1GuVJCy1Anzf

[fresh flower]

It's completely irrelevant that disabled people have a hard time in an able bodied society, they should learn to coexist and do not deserve special treatment for being an oppressed minority group

[cerulean pivot]

don't really get you
I can be both lol

[turbid dome]

If you wanted to do a proper analogy it would be that disabled people shouldn’t be superior, therefore while we will work to accommodate them they aren’t going ti get more rights than anyone else

[turbid dome]

I know him, I don’t like him cause imo he’s a bit bad faith and his arguments are questionable lol

Classic ML

[fresh flower]

You keep claiming that they're superior but the only examples are "France helped them" and "Christians in USA and Europe killed people"

[turbid dome]

No, what do you think a Christian state does, it makes them superior, that’s what you’re advocating for

[cerulean pivot]

what do you even like atp

[turbid dome]

Gimme a moment I’ll send you a few links

[strange iris]

I'm not really sure communism can exist with faith, especially Marx's communism. I think you align more with socialism.

[fresh flower]

Yes, I fully support a state for a group of people that have been displaced and genocided in ME, that goes for both Palestians and Christian

[cerulean pivot]

yay

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah this

I'm still learning tho
And the learning curve is sooooooo slow

[high raven]

The kitchen, I'll have to look at them irl though, colours are off on the screen

[fresh flower]

Debate died down btw, they all agree that Christians there don't deserve protection and should continue to be killed by Muslims

[high raven]

Something atheists are immoral something

[slender coral]

Middle eastern Christians and atheists kinda tolerate each other. Sometimes they are buddies against Muslims.

[fresh flower]

Wallahi it's true

[slender coral]

Intellectually of course, and Muslims respond with violence and repression as usual.

[fresh flower]

One defended ped0s now Martini supports minorities being oppressed

This channel has truly lost it

[fresh flower]

Literally what we're saying

[slender coral]

What is Martini saying?

[strange iris]

I mean... I would have loved if my country remained Christian, the reason it isn't, however, all comes down to Israeli aggression and Palestinian displacement. I blame Israel for it.

[slender coral]

Israel is a friggin cancer cell in the region.

[fresh flower]

Christians should suck it up and coexist, it doesn't matter that they've been persecuted, they don't deserve their own state because colonial Christian powers from abroad helped form it, therefore it's wrong and they should fend for themselves, and hopefully this leads to peace, green grass, and secularism

I swear on your uncles grave I'm not joking, scroll up

[strange iris]

If we look at it objectively and ignore the other claims, a state with such religious and ethnic diversity could really benefit from secularism, it keeps people's beliefs to themselves and communities without entangling them into politics - a place of proactive controversy.

[slender coral]

I'm not surprised, western progressives have such views sometimes. But I can't deny that I see where he's coming from. The problem is if a secularist state, or a Christian state, arise non-organically, Muslim folk would simply continue to fight it. And you wouldn't be able to stop the fighting unless you fight back, and turn your state authoritarian or something. Which would lead to Islamic fundamentalism and conservatism to harden further.

[normal leaf]

no

[fresh flower]

Then you might agree with the initial claim, which was completely derailed: "Zionists in Israel are as bad as Shias in Lebanon"

[slender coral]

A change that isn't organic would lead to a civil war, or more repression.

[turbid dome]

christians don't get their own supremacist state

[fresh flower]

What does bro mean "No" 😭😭😭

[slender coral]

Ohh, I see I see. You agree with it?

[normal leaf]

no, they are not similar.. if he can prove such a thing then he should do it

[strange iris]

Wait wait wait, what should happen to the Shias in Lebanon if they are considered bad for the country?

[fresh flower]

100%, the issue in the middle east is Jewish and Muslim extremists

[slender coral]

Yup

[fresh flower]

They should suck it up and live under a Christian state that then more often that not, based on historical evidence, turns secular

[strange iris]

Ah, ok. I thought you meant they shouldn't live there. Didn't think you meant no political presence

[crisp zephyr]

[woven quail]

Devil is here so it’s mean the subject is about religion

[fresh flower]

An extremist Muslim has more rights in a far-right Christian state than a normal Christian does in the most liberal Islamist country

[fresh flower]

We never said that

[shell hemlock]

don’t forget it’s about islam and muslims to be specific

[fresh flower]

He's innocent it was @high raven

[strange iris]

Mhm

[fresh flower]

She started a civil war with one comment blame her

[silk sparrow]

What do you talking about?

[strange iris]

I just wish our Christians in Lebanon would stop sucking up to Israel and America

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gif-2450101530054484962

[high raven]

Won't happen, those two pay the government's salaries

[thorny steeple]

من قرأ سورة الكهف في يوم الجمعة أضاء له من النور ما بين الجمعتين

[strange iris]

They made us depend on them, it's like a certain type of parasite. If removed from the host, the host dies

[silk sparrow]

This chat looks like the jihad 🤣

[high raven]

Mashallah

[high raven]

Wait you're from Lebanon?

[strange iris]

Yes, I remember having this very conversation with you in the past lol

[crisp zephyr]

He always conflated class and religion, as if to say that if we all believed in Christianity, those Christian capitalists or colonizers would no longer exploit and oppress us

[high raven]

My bad, hope you and your family are safe and sound!

[strange iris]

Thanks

[slender coral]

Not me this time. Sanna wants Lebanon to turn into a Christian state.

[slender coral]

[fresh flower]

I agree with her because I don't hate Muslims, gays, (some) atheists and minorities

[pseudo flume]

Muslims are allowed to pray in many churches, in Lebanon btw

[fresh flower]

Christians get killed in Sweden and France for criticising Islam btw

[slender coral]

That's actually good. I think it's an idea that gets Muslim fundamentalists tweaking.

I don't think, it certainly is.

[pseudo flume]

Secular muslims are the most lethal weapon against Islamophobs

[slender coral]

And against Muslim fundamentalists too. It gives them heartattacks

https://tenor.com/view/angry-muslim-rant-wallahi-mad-gif-17069111

[pseudo flume]

According to muslim fundamentalist, they aren't even muslims

@slender coral why did you disappear during Ramadan like a practising muslim boyfriend

[slender coral]

I was forced to fast, and had to study for university too. I was busy and my schedule got fucked.

I still live with my family, so that's why.

Hopefully I'll graduate next year and this bs will end.

[pseudo flume]

Not having food is understandable but if you're dehydrated that's just being stupid

Just sneak a bottle around and stay hydrated

[pseudo flume]

Fair. If we assume you'll land a job in a third world country just after getting graduated

[slender coral]

We have no privacy in our house lol
I actually sometimes was able to sneak a bottle and sometimes drank from it. Anyway, even being hungry made me lose my focus.

[pseudo flume]

My other friend from your country was driving uber because he couldn't get a job, Man rage quitted within a week

[sweet wolf]

ask a friend to stash drinking water for you

unless all your friends are practicing muslims too

[slender coral]

They all are 😭

[pseudo flume]

Btw I've encountered a colleague having snacks in bathroom during my wahabi era

[slender coral]

Some mod deleted that lol

[azure brook]

be mindful

[pseudo flume]

I bullied him for it, he was an absolute unit

[thorny steeple]

What did she post?

[slender coral]

That's a mindful way to respond to mindless preaching.

[azure brook]

burning quran

[plain ruin]

4 active mods its over for #🧠｜serious-chat

[pseudo flume]

May Yahweh bless us

[azure brook]

dont make me take action on your mindless response.

[plain ruin]

Nobu would've gotten banned 4 years ago

[azure brook]

just be careful

[sweet wolf]

https://klipy.com/gifs/1984-movie-1

[pseudo flume]

The Ummah hub soon

[slender coral]

The State of Hubstan

[high raven]

Crazy take

Apparently the wrong opinion

[sweet wolf]

the islamic caliphate of hubistan

[pseudo flume]

Strait of Hubstan*

[uncut tiger]

Bro muted my opp

[fresh flower]

Idek if they were trolling

[sweet wolf]

reason none?

[fresh flower]

Devil didn't even do anything

[plain ruin]

Default if left empty

[sweet wolf]

he posted a burning quran and that did it

[plain ruin]

Not even Diaz

[silk sparrow]

Are u muslim?

[uncut tiger]

@fresh flower Time for Isha Sheikh

[pseudo flume]

Devil should go to the strait of hormuz and throw stones on ships as retaliation for this mute

[whole beacon]

It was the birth idea of Menachem Begin
But it didn't survive in the global arena.

[fresh flower]

It's perfectly fine to criticise any religion, no rule goes against that here

[pseudo flume]

Not yet

[plain ruin]

Feeling proud ****** army

[pseudo flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1363178802011701268.gif

[turbid dome]

IMO it’s become the dominant form of Zionism outside of Israel, whereas in Israel it’s less common and there more of the Kahanists

[glossy bough]

Yes, but using provocative language against a particular religion doesn't comply with the rule

[plain ruin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-sopranos-steven-van-zandt-silvo-dante-tTDlx5ZQQug2Ph218n

[fresh flower]

Where is that stated

[plain ruin]

The counter has just been upped to 5

[fresh flower]

You're conflating your own beliefs with the set rules here

[plain ruin]

Pinned messages

[pseudo flume]

"Jesus is king"
Is this statement antisemitic?

[plain ruin]

here itself, not in #📋｜rules

[fresh flower]

He insulted the book not them as followers

What's next, I can't call people who read 50 rules "Morons"

[silk sparrow]

I understand. Is it wrong to be Christian in your region?

[plain ruin]

It does involve inanimate objects too, in their examples in the pinned message

[fresh flower]

Literally 1984

[pseudo flume]

Nowadays? Yes
You might get mob lynched during Christmas

[fresh flower]

Months to ban a guy defending ped0philia but seconds to mute guy sending pic of burning Quran

[fresh flower]

These mods are goofballs

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/skragzire-gif-19722425

[weary moss]

freedom > safe space

[uncut tiger]

Deserved

[thorny steeple]

Failed gif?

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-jane-simon-baker-the-mentalist-rabbit-devils-cherry-gif-17764396

[fresh flower]

Sending a pic of a burning book is hate speech?

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[fresh flower]

Government of Sweden disagrees with you

[thorny steeple]

Noooo Burning a book is praising is compliment

[glossy bough]

Yes, as it was meant to hurt a particular religious group's feelings, it's is hate speech/trolling

[azure brook]

are you really defending this?

[uncut tiger]

You're not even a mod why bro getting offended

[fresh flower]

Bit of a stretch don't you think

[sweet wolf]

I might get banned for burning on the origin of species

[fresh flower]

My government did

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-watching-besties-best-friends-together-gif-6240220008721113008

[plain ruin]

It was Devil so

[pseudo flume]

😡 don't you dare to touch

[glossy bough]

I don't think so, neither am I asking for your opinion on it. It is what it is

[azure brook]

i dont care about your government, we are trying to have a peaceful convos in server

[sweet wolf]

I'm going to burn the holy book of the atheists

[fresh flower]

It was peaceful until you derailed it by being offended by pixels on a screen

[azure brook]

if they cant be civil and mature enough, no need to waste time w them

[silk sparrow]

Brutal. I don´t undestand
What do u think about? becouse they´re be very extremists

[uncut tiger]

@fresh flower Bro you're making us look bad in front of the e- sunnis here

[fresh flower]

You're replying to my message

[high rapids]

SAY IT

[azure brook]

how you know i offended ahahashhs

[plain ruin]

Something must've happened to trigger 5 mods to suddenly become more active
Hmmmmmmmmmm

[fresh flower]

You muted him and just said "i dont care about your government, we are trying to have a peaceful convos in server" clearly implying that what he sent made you not peaceful

[uncut tiger]

It's ALL about Minecraft (the game)

[azure brook]

first, i didnt mute him
secondly, do you know what is reporting someone?

[plain ruin]

1.12.2 💯🙏`

[fresh flower]

All 3 of you inserted yourself into a topic and were offended by his opinion, childish and goofy to try and take the moral high ground after

[sweet wolf]

Stop noticing

[plain ruin]

Noooooooooo ahahhaaaa noooooo

[azure brook]

as a staff, its my responsibility to do it

[plain ruin]

Yuri yuri yuriiiii

[azure brook]

it doesnt show i care about what he thinks

[manic juniper]

But why not Kosovo when it was treated even worse by its colonizers

[azure brook]

i care about what our users feel lol

[sweet wolf]

:catsweat:

[plain ruin]

🐒 🐒

[fresh flower]

You just said "i dont care about your government, we are trying to have a peaceful convos in server"

[sweet wolf]

Sacudiendo mi holy book

[uncut tiger]

Don't y'all think a burning Quran would trigger Muslim mods, I mean it's literally offensive

[plain ruin]

Firetruc

[fresh flower]

You guys claim to not be offended yet one of you goofballs just warned me

[turbid dome]

It has external conflict because of Serbia

[fresh flower]

Genuinely hilarious

[thorny steeple]

Only olivander think burning a book is not offensive
Source: sweden government

[azure brook]

yeah, if he trying to trigger users here, i should handle yk

[azure brook]

olivander doesnt agree with you lol

[quasi needle]

minecraft is on his like 8th perm ban too

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[sweet wolf]

That can happen but you can also blow the dust off some rule you didn't see before

[manic juniper]

Burning a book may be offensive but many things are such as eating a cow or killing snakes

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[cerulean pivot]

They also invented snus
اسوء شي بعد اكل مال اليتيم

[azure brook]

dm the english hub bot for it or create a ticket, not in serious chat

[fresh flower]

Did I just break a rule titled "Disagreed with sensitive mod"?

[cerulean pivot]

Are u fr defending it

[quasi needle]

yea

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[sweet wolf]

Sleeper rss agent has been activated

[high rapids]

WHY DID MY MESSAGE GET DELTETED

[azure brook]

no, you are just yapping atp

[high rapids]

NO FREE SPEACH ANYMORE

[sweet wolf]

He's wearing his khaki shorts as we speak

[azure brook]

waste of time

[fresh flower]

Background character spamming gif while I'm talking to someone

[azure brook]

have a good day

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[magic olive]

Hello

[uncut tiger]

I shared a cow meat photo and big V threatened to ban me, isn't that the Hindu equivalent of what just happened here

[plain ruin]

Only paid speech here we gotta move to the council

[fresh flower]

What's with these goofballs?

[high rapids]

TO THE SUPREME LEADER

[magic olive]

Let’s not disrupt this chat with moderation.

[fresh flower]

Genuinely worrying that these are actual adults over the age of 18

[thorny steeple]

Whats snus

[magic olive]

I’m here now, devil had to be online today smh

[pseudo flume]

I don't have any problems with people following their religion as long as they aren't forcing and negatively impacting others

[high rapids]

Anyone wanna play GENSHIN MY INGAME NAME IS MINECRAFT_562 JUST ADD ME

[cerulean pivot]

Your fav orater defending sending pics of burning quran btw

[plain ruin]

Nicotine pouch

[fresh flower]

I'm talking about the goofball who warned me for disagreeing with him/her

[quasi needle]

how is this inherently rule breaking

[magic olive]

Moving forward

[uncut tiger]

Offensive

[cerulean pivot]

Gum like nicotine

[thorny steeple]

Aaaaaa

[thorny steeple]

[plain ruin]

Someone else was muted and he was talking about their mute, that's rule breaking

[cerulean pivot]

How it's not

[plain ruin]

How is burning the Quraan rule breaking? Then you have this #🧠｜serious-chat message

[pseudo flume]

Soon he'll become the new yahoodi of serious chat, following lmknot, minecraft and Nobu

[cerulean pivot]

I got muted by screaming in caps lock on mod once

[quasi needle]

what was the context

[thorny steeple]

Why is gum nicotine so bad its used as medicine to treat smoking addiction? Unless u guys talkin about smthn else?

[cerulean pivot]

I also came late
Just scroll abit

[thorny steeple]

A serious question

[plain ruin]

Guy who's ex-muslim in a muslim country posts a picture of a quraan burning

[pseudo flume]

I was muted for calling someone special
She was in music vc without any music

[high raven]

We must support the displacement of people and ignore the genocides on them and just coexist

[cerulean pivot]

Jesus
I'm just being sarcastic

[cerulean pivot]

Very special

[thorny steeple]

Why can blacks say n-word but whites can't

[plain ruin]

It's over

[thorny steeple]

I didnt get it sorry

[uncut tiger]

They're gone

[quasi needle]

because it was used by whites as a derogatory term. black people took it into something more friendly but for a white guy to use it, it still has the connotations

[plain ruin]

10000% not true

[fresh flower]

The atheist solution to the middle east alhamdlah 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[uncut tiger]

Sheikh you're a BAD shia

[pseudo flume]

That's what grandpa thought

[plain ruin]

We aim ThinkPad at all of them and use the projectiles as ammo

[quasi needle]

the atheist solution is the only solution

[thorny steeple]

Why they call us white this is disrespectful too

[quasi needle]

no it’s not

[cerulean pivot]

He's just a goy now

[thorny steeple]

Yes it's

[fresh flower]

You forgot /s

[quasi needle]

religion no longer offers more societal benefit than harm

[high rapids]

[quasi needle]

i can argue it never did

[uncut tiger]

Another mute

[quasi needle]

?

[fresh flower]

Great bro lets ignore all the scientific advancements by Christians and Muslims

[high rapids]

nice pfp

[quasi needle]

which has nothing to do with their religion

[fresh flower]

"Hey this world was created by our God lets try to observe it and understand it" sure bro

Guess they just did it for fun

[uncut tiger]

Lmao I just noticed the 313 tag

That's so cool bro

[undone stone]

Hello

[quasi needle]

again this affects nothing

god created our earth vs our earth exists has no effect on the “let’s try and understand it”

[fresh flower]

Because you said so? It's the direct cause for people studying Earth and the solar system

[quasi needle]

believing in god given morality has no impact on validity. conclusions stand on evidence and method, not the personal beliefs of the scientist

[uncut tiger]

And some scientists say that their scientific knowledge has pulled them closer to god so it also serves as a motivation for them to do more work

[quasi needle]

curiosity doesn’t stem from believing in our universe being created by someone

[fresh flower]

Except it does when religious people themselves founded the scientific method

I can, and have, argued that it wouldn't be without religions

[quasi needle]

that would tend to be the case when religion is mandated at the time

[pseudo flume]

At the end of the day it's a personal matter, we shouldn't force others.
Unfortunately devil's parents won't accept this

[fresh flower]

That's objectively the truth of it though, it's how it started and the advancements of it was directly pushed and funded by religions and religious people

[quasi needle]

history ≠ causation

[fresh flower]

"Periodically, religion was harmful" is more agreeable than "Religion did more harm than good"

[fresh flower]

That's literally the cause though; "God created us and our universe, let's try to understand it"

If a God does or doesn't exist is irrelevant

[quasi needle]

we don’t understand our universe, let’s try understand it*

[fresh flower]

If the "we" are Jews, Muslims and Christians mandated by their holy books to seek knowledge to try to understand God then I agree

[quasi needle]

the same holy books that held empirically incorrect knowledge that had people executed for trying to prove wrong

[high rapids]

@magic olive

[magic olive]

Sup

[uncut tiger]

i think he wants to change his name again

[high rapids]

Bro I never changed my back name to Denial

[dense agate]

you refuse to believe that you were gay and dyslexic

you're in Daniel

[high raven]

There's space for 4 more arrows

[high rapids]

,

[fresh flower]

I need an app that automatically adds them, it's genuinely getting tiring

[shy summit]

Damn Daniel

[fresh flower]

Can I talk to mods in muted chat

[uncut tiger]

Leave it Sheikh

[shy summit]

You can make a ticket or dm but I’m about to shower

[turbid dome]

Yup, not only was being atheist a great way to be persecuted, but in most if not all societies I can think of the average person was an illiterate peasant, the over representation of religious people in science during those periods in time is because in feudalism (which was upheld by religion through divine right) the most reliable populations to be literate were the nobility, who were too busy ruling, and the clergy.

[thorny steeple]

We've seen him as a key of serious chat.

[manic juniper]

Will Minecraft get the role as well then?

This channel wouldn't be active at all without him

[quasi needle]

yeah it’s hard to find non religious scientists in times when religion was mandated and it’s ridiculous to suggest the innate human desire to discover stems from god

[turbid dome]

Statistically #1

[manic juniper]

He is the Park Chung Hee of serious chat

[turbid dome]

That’s why they assassinated him

[manic juniper]

He Mao Zedong'd till I famined

[sweet wolf]

[fresh flower]

It's done bro thank you either way

[dense agate]

1 step a time

[manic juniper]

Posthumously?

😔

[fresh flower]

He'll be brought back to life soon

[dense agate]

"there must always be a Minecraft"

[fresh flower]

I lowered his sentencing to April 3rd

[dense agate]

btw @manic juniper i saw that guy back here i forgot his name, yk the pseudo moroccan doctor who destroyed evolution

[tiny bluff]

Sora AI is gone

Open AI completely closed the program

[fresh flower]

Bro have you seen how much money they're losing

Genuinely insane how little money they make

[manic juniper]

Ayoub?

[tiny bluff]

I did, -15M per day or something on this project

[manic juniper]

He denied it last time I mentioned it, strongest Moroccan nationalist

[fresh flower]

Yes, they're projected to lose 14b in 2026 according to them themselves

[tiny bluff]

Zuckerberg recently lost billions on the metaverse project.

[manic juniper]

Can't even own up to his ideals

[sweet wolf]

AI use is common but I definitely haven't seen image generation being used as much

Makes sense

[tiny bluff]

I'm happy the AI slop will be reduced atleast

The fruit love island needs to go

[pseudo flume]

File has been drafted

[sweet wolf]

The ones with fruits eating each other?

[pseudo flume]

Plastic in balls turning us gay guy?

[manic juniper]

Will it even be reduced, won't they pour even more into AI and less on virtual reality

[quaint bramble]

lets talk politics yall

[tiny bluff]

Also, did you guys heard about ICE stealing a guy's phone who was recording them making an arrest. They arrested him, assaulted him, stole his phone and even pawned it

[fresh flower]

Do you support antisemitism

[pseudo flume]

They're definitely getting trained by IDF

[sweet wolf]

Do fries go well with hamburgers and cheeseburgers?

[tiny bluff]

Pawning a phone is crazy though, that's just criminal. They made 250$ off of a poor guy's phone

[quaint bramble]

yes im antisemit

[pseudo flume]

They stole money from my friend's house in west bank

[fresh flower]

I like you bro

[pseudo flume]

It was hidden deep under the rice, still they end up finding it

[quaint bramble]

who in their right mind would support zionism in 2026

[fresh flower]

I really appreciate honest people, I like openly racist people because they don't hide it

[quaint bramble]

ok im not racist

[tiny bluff]

I wish I was born in the 70s, why is AI taking over jobs right when I'm about to enter the job market

[quaint bramble]

and i dont like racist people

[fresh flower]

You shouldn't be, but an openly racist guy is better than one that hides it

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-in-sheep's-clothing-gif-7431026024793403520

This was nice to watch though

[tiny bluff]

It's creepy

[quaint bramble]

whats the new topic

[high raven]

Back in my days we didn't have access to AI

[fresh flower]

😭😭😭

[tiny bluff]

😭 How old are you???

[quaint bramble]

world is gonna change drastically because of AI

its very scary

[sweet wolf]

I use AI for trivial searches

It fucks up every math and physics problem I throw at it

[tiny bluff]

We should eat the rich

[quaint bramble]

i use ai for coding

[tiny bluff]

😭😭😭

[sweet wolf]

Do they taste that good?

[quaint bramble]

it has become so easy than before

[quaint bramble]

what happened lady

[tiny bluff]

They suck

[sweet wolf]

Then why do you want to eat them

Eat chicken or something

[tiny bluff]

I love animal farm by george orwell

[quaint bramble]

love beef

[tiny bluff]

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than the others"

[pseudo flume]

We're same

[tiny bluff]

Childhood diarrhea what 😭😭😭

[dense agate]

yeah bingo

[dense agate]

his cheeks must be clapping from all the Moroccan greatness in soccer

[dense agate]

you betcha

[pseudo flume]

BLDC motor is really optimal btw

[high raven]

The AI boom is recent, around 2021-2022, the older tools were never meant for casuals and didn't gain the traction that the current ones have

[pseudo flume]

80 W normal pedestal fan has same air flow as 30 W BLDC pedestal fan

[pseudo flume]

What are you laughing at

Damn you

Zylshia

[tiny bluff]

That's true, the AI boom is so recent and so massive

[tiny bluff]

What's wrong, why are you mad for no reason

Very shia of you

Will the AI bubble ever pop

[fresh flower]

@slender coral

[tiny bluff]

And what would it even look like

[fresh flower]

Nah that's crazy.....

[uncut tiger]

do you approve of it

[sweet wolf]

What were you doing during those years

[high raven]

The hatred for him and Hezbollah? Yes

[high raven]

Work and uni, they were dark days where we had to actually research and go to the library

[uncut tiger]

but you dont support the current attack on iran

[fresh flower]

Bro's about to learn that there's a third side 💀💀💀

[high raven]

In general or for Lebanon?

[sweet wolf]

Have a similar situation going on

[uncut tiger]

what is that

[sweet wolf]

I'm learning FEA/FEM and I thought AI could be of help but it can't explain concepts well

I had to watch 4 videos and read a part of a book to understand the derivation for a differential equation

[high raven]

That's way too complex for it and I doubt that it won't hallucinate

[sweet wolf]

It was the most basic 1D differential equation, I knew ai sucks with math and physics but not this bad

They're nowhere near as advanced as I thought they were a couple of months ago

One area that has improved though would be getting text and diagrams out of images

[fresh flower]

Both Iran and Israel is bad

[sweet wolf]

How does a quadruple amputee fire a gun

dumped the body of the victim after shooting him too

Bean bag toss champion 😭

[tiny bluff]

Weren't you very pro Iran a week ago?

[pseudo flume]

They can fire using tounge but how tf would they Aim

[fresh flower]

I'm pro anything the US opposes because the migrants from those countries will end up here

[tiny bluff]

Character development

[fresh flower]

I don't even support Palestine for humanitarian reasons, I support their right to a state because I don't want them in mine

[tiny bluff]

I take this back

[manic juniper]

He's always been like this

[fresh flower]

Why is it a bad thing

[tiny bluff]

I agree with being anti US though

US sucks

[sweet wolf]

Nuh uh

[cerulean pivot]

Sarsari

[fresh flower]

If US and Jews stop bombing people they won't flee to my country

[manic juniper]

Do you like immigrants from the Middle East

[pseudo flume]

US Nation or US, apparently you must specify it

[uncut tiger]

Let's ban you now

Let me take a screenshot and crop it

[tiny bluff]

Not liking illegal immigrants isn't a bad thing, but ignoring a humanitarian crisis is

[fresh flower]

I'm arguably the most humanitarian person here

[cerulean pivot]

Only a zio could do this
zio and Swedish

[uncut tiger]

Sheikh is getting corrupted day by day 💔

[fresh flower]

I'm not ignoring it, if USA stops bombing them, they can live in their country and not flee to mine

Why would I want immigrants in my country when they should live in theirs free from US bombs

[tiny bluff]

You said, you didn't care for the humanitarian cause behind it

That people are dying and children are starving

[cerulean pivot]

Bro's think he's the main character

[fresh flower]

That's the norm for that specific region, and has been for over 2000 years

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-gif-10290761239041307136

I saw a video use this gif to explain that

[tiny bluff]

Isn't he dating a middle eastern person, so arguably he likes migrants more than any of us

[manic juniper]

Glad you understand now

[sweet wolf]

How

[fresh flower]

That's what I'm saying, I'm the most pro middle east person here

[cerulean pivot]

He's gatekeeping em for himself

Greedy

[tiny bluff]

Are you romantically involved with a M.E. person

[pseudo flume]

Or he only wants the oil

[tiny bluff]

Preferably immigrant, doesn't work if you're middle eastern yourself

[sweet wolf]

No

[cerulean pivot]

I'll oil him up if he asked nicely

[sweet wolf]

You like the person maybe, not the entire community

[tiny bluff]

You can't separate a person from their identity

[fresh flower]

Accepting refugees from said countries just means you accept the bombing of theirs, I think they should stay there and not be bombed

[pseudo flume]

Not all Iraqi but always an Iraqi

[patent marten]

Iran 🇮🇷

[sweet wolf]

What is their identity

[fresh flower]

May Allah protect them

[tiny bluff]

US sucks, I hope Iran wins the war and then the govt is overthrown

[cerulean pivot]

We're so back

[fresh flower]

So Iranians can live there peacefully, see you get it

[tiny bluff]

Something that appeases to both the sides

[patent marten]

Ammen

[fresh flower]

Taking in migrants doesn't solve the root issue

[uncut tiger]

Bro got ONE role and that was enough 💔

[tiny bluff]

The root issue is extremism

[fresh flower]

I've ALWAYS said this

[fringe furnace]

if is there anyone from ıran send turkey more missles but dont explode it we need more metal scrap

[sweet wolf]

It's almost 1am

[manic juniper]

Bending the knee to mammals is the issue

[uncut tiger]

La'nat allahi alal Ulama al'Shia

[plain ruin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xyrr-xypherr-modi-sarkaar-WijA3sTz8Wj5Syrl0p

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/khamenei-crying-meme-when-the-wont-shut-up-when-the-gif-12329650965403193875

[feral hawk]

Thanks for your contribution to serious-chat

[sweet wolf]

Viral supremacy

[pseudo flume]

Al'shia

[uncut tiger]

mb

[tiny bluff]

Their way of thinking, culture, ethnicity, their habits, upbringing, experiences, and beliefs.

[pseudo flume]

Engineering University isn't teaching the Qur'an properly ig

[cerulean pivot]

Casual vs professional terrorist

[feral hawk]

anyway whats the topic rn

[fresh flower]

Supporting terrorist groups

[sweet wolf]

That's alright but that doesn't mean I like their community

[uncut tiger]

zenny summed it up very well

[tiny bluff]

US sucks

[feral hawk]

this isnt even a debate its just truth

everyone knows the US is booty buns

[tiny bluff]

You're so peak

[pseudo flume]

Ask him what his arabic teacher used to do with him when he was smol

[sweet wolf]

I need a chud plushie to hug and make me fall asleep

[feral hawk]

thank you im here all night ladies

[cerulean pivot]

Alright let's start a serious topic
Why's needy streamer overload is your favourite game

[glossy ether]

salam akaikum

[glossy ether]

ya hussain…

[uncut tiger]

wagwan

[glossy ether]

why are you acting like minecraft

[uncut tiger]

what makes you say that

[glossy ether]

@sweet wolf IS THAT YURI

[tiny bluff]

Well, that's just stupid. A "community" is made of individuals who will always be on the spectrum of traditionalists vs modern faith believers. Generalizing one extreme and disliking a whole community is stupid.

I don't get communal hate or bigotry

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-meme-notyouraverageflight-notyouraverageflight-meme-not-your-average-flight-gif-15102885231826256493

[pseudo flume]

I still can't get over Bhajan x Ayat al kursi Collab in english hub vc

[glossy ether]

YA HUSSAIN

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-gif-12037586412307050522

[sweet wolf]

How've you been chika

[glossy ether]

ive been good bro

been busy

wbu

[feral hawk]

i like the portrayal of mental health in the game and the message of the game where it portrays that internet drives already mentally ill people into a worse state

[sweet wolf]

It's the mid-offs over here bro

[fresh flower]

Bro can you free @slender coral Muslim mods tweaking

He did NOTHING wrong just a pic of burning Quran

[cerulean pivot]

Ohh sweet

[feral hawk]

needy streamer overload is a good game i have 100% completion on it

[uncut tiger]

"just" 💔

[glossy ether]

ya hussain…

im shia bro

[pseudo flume]

I died

[feral hawk]

only on the switch version though cus im too broke to own a pc and get it on steam

[tiny bluff]

Crazy

[feral hawk]

advertising advertising mods plsban!

[glossy ether]

send link akhi

[feral hawk]

🤓🤓🧐🧐

[uncut tiger]

be ready for this tho

[cerulean pivot]

Dude i play most of my games through switch emulation in android

[glossy ether]

@cerulean pivot converted me

[cerulean pivot]

Dw

[glossy ether]

LMFAOOO

[cerulean pivot]

Ya Ali

[feral hawk]

id love to use an emulation but i have an iphone

neither do i trust the sketchy websites for emulators im too scared of gettinf a virus

[cerulean pivot]

That's not even mandatory lol unless u want the shia role

[glossy ether]

i got u

[cerulean pivot]

At this rate u won't make it till 20

[glossy ether]

heh… u guys forget im a discord mod

[feral hawk]

ong

[glossy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/phatearl-gif-17348854661357871317

[sweet wolf]

What if there's an ideological majority one doesn't like in the community

[tiny bluff]

That's such an effective way to weed out sunnis, they're so smart

[fresh flower]

Mb I forgot mods on my ass

[uncut tiger]

isnt that a good thing we forget about your weight while talking to you

[glossy ether]

stop overfeeding me

im gonna blow

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/khamenei-crying-meme-when-the-wont-shut-up-when-the-gif-12329650965403193875

[sweet wolf]

Yes I'm the neglected child's father 💔

[glossy ether]

daddy daddy when will you bring back the milk

https://tenor.com/view/phatearl-gif-17348854661357871317

if you dont bring it fast enough i might turn into a femboy

[thorny steeple]

[cerulean pivot]

I had more in the past but i delete the ones that i finish

[glossy ether]

but you freaks would like that wouldn’t you

[sweet wolf]

Ramadan just ended for carpe don't be saying this

[thorny steeple]

Isreal >>>>>> Palestine

[glossy ether]

LMAOOO

[tiny bluff]

You can't generalize that on any individual from the community. Do you meet an Iraqi person and go, are you from the ISIS just because

[glossy ether]

isnt he hindu

[uncut tiger]

kurd btw

[thorny steeple]

[sweet wolf]

We must protect his larpdentity

[thorny steeple]

Maybe persian

[cerulean pivot]

Average Kurdish without taqiyah

[tiny bluff]

It is not even Isreal

[thorny steeple]

3atwane

[thorny steeple]

Yh maybe isfake

[cerulean pivot]

Akrad

[sweet wolf]

I do ask them if they wear skinny jeans and have pompadour hair

[tiny bluff]

😭 Not the skinny jeans and weird tight shirt concoction

[thorny steeple]

3atwan

[cerulean pivot]

Alhamdulillah

[tiny bluff]

I wonder if they get fabric welt imprints around their legs or something

[sweet wolf]

It cuts the blood circulation to their legs

That's why they walk like that

[cerulean pivot]

Idk man i think we've adapt

[high raven]

They struggle with concepts in general, the benchmarks you see online are just minmaxed, it's honestly better to struggle with it yourself and learn than having to assume that it hallucinated and double check everything

[sweet wolf]

I feel my conceptual understanding become clearer the more mistakes I notice it make

[fresh flower]

Reminds me of Hussain

[thorny steeple]

It's all about boosting activity.
Olivander would turn into a Pakistani to argue with an indian. Are you capable of doing that?

[high raven]

That's how it should be used, or asking for hints if you're stuck, I don't understand how people learn if it gives you the entire solution

[high raven]

Hopefully it worked out for him

[sweet wolf]

He wrote a book using ai

It's on amazon 😭

[fresh flower]

Ngl I fully support that if he's making money 💀

[sweet wolf]

I do learn from solutions but I don't trust chatgpt/gemini with giving me the right/optimal answer

[sweet wolf]

He probably isn't

[fresh flower]

Where is he...

[thorny steeple]

[uncut tiger]

Minecraft was also boosting activity btw

[fresh flower]

Wait did he get banned 💀

What's with these guys everyone's banned or muted

[thorny steeple]

Orator

[sweet wolf]

Do not speak of the devil

[sweet wolf]

Huh

[uncut tiger]

yeah, he has allegedly been inviting random members to his personal server

[sweet wolf]

That's the reason he got banned?

[uncut tiger]

Ofc

Server advertisement is not allowed

[fresh flower]

He'd never do that

[uncut tiger]

recruiting members is not allowed

[sweet wolf]

Didn't know that

[fresh flower]

Brb gonna go there to insult him

[uncut tiger]

Sadly I saw evidence regarding that

[thorny steeple]

[uncut tiger]

🥀

[sweet wolf]

He actually invites anyone

I told him not to and he didn't listen

[thorny steeple]

Jew>>>>>Zionist

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852805796789354496/1452966168766713949/image0-1.gif

[quasi needle]

he was also discord hitler

[uncut tiger]

arent you british

[quasi needle]

no the flag is for decor

[uncut tiger]

blud new where i was gonna go

[high raven]

Wait really?

I thought he only used it to learn CS

[sweet wolf]

Yeah he said so

He showed his product page too

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀

You told him to stop relying on AI to learn CS bro decided lemme make it write a book and release it

[crystal kayak]

More like a mix of trump and Epstein

[fresh flower]

You should, you're arguably stupid if you don't use AI as a tool to ease your workload

Using it to do everything while you're supposed to learn is dumb

[turbid tundra]

Run better run

[fresh flower]

Cancer research scientists should stop using AI and just let people continue to die because AI is slop

[slender coral]

Isn't Frenzy talking about generative AI for code?

[fresh flower]

Idek I'm just arguing

[cloud ingot]

Hi guys new here btw what are you talking about

[slender coral]

Religion, politics, controversial stuff.

[fresh flower]

What... I thought you were joking...

[cloud ingot]

So
What's the discussion about know

[fresh flower]

Should they just look at the millions of images like REAL men and not use AI to speed that process because AI is slop and for soft libs

[slender coral]

Olivander is trolling it seems. Frenzy thinks people shouldn't use AI at all.

[cloud ingot]

I study Egyptian history from Pharos until Mohamed ali btw

[fresh flower]

They literally use it for cancer research wym

[cloud ingot]

Oh ok thanks

[slender coral]

That's so cool, but isn't it quite a lot?

How can ur study effectively cover all of that?

[cloud ingot]

Yeah it's hard to study I have a great amount of information but There's a lot that I don't know kinda embarrassing

[fresh flower]

That's what they do, why do you think that they should stop?

[cloud ingot]

What's the meaning of empirical

[shrewd dove]

I'm back

[slender coral]

If you want to be actually knowledgeable about something, you gotta tighten your scope a bit. Focus on a particular period.

[fresh flower]

Yes but he'll be freed soon

[cloud ingot]

That's my college stuff but I'm focusing on Islamic because it's the most I like I've got an A in every year until now in it

Thanks

[slender coral]

Cool. Wish you luck bro.

[cloud ingot]

Thx

[uncut tiger]

shuddup i use ai for makin me assignments

[slender coral]

I wish I could study more about history. I'm particularly interested in medieval central Asia, the times of the Islamic invasions in the region. I'm interested in this particularly because I wanna write a story about a slave revolt in the region.

[uncut tiger]

it did a great job making my final project too

[slender coral]

What were you studying?

[thorny steeple]

[uncut tiger]

cs

[slender coral]

What field are you working in now?

[uncut tiger]

2nd semester

[thorny steeple]

wha

[uncut tiger]

final project of the first semester for the fundamentals of computer programming class

[cloud ingot]

You know ai is still improving and it's in it's very beginning when you are improving yourself you need to know about everything that can be changed in future at least know how to use ai well to prevent the world from letting you behind (like what happened to our parents with modern technology I'm saying do not rely on ai the most but know the best way to use it (very sorry for the long message)

[slender coral]

Oh, good luck.
Btw, don't just let AI make your assignments, I think it would get you screwed in exams if you rely heavily on it. Make it explain how it solves questions.

[uncut tiger]

ye ye ty

[weary moss]

be that guy

[thorny steeple]

[weary moss]

you're that guy

[thorny steeple]

That gay

[weary moss]

stop following

create your own language

[cloud ingot]

Guys
What are the colours here referring to

[weary moss]

because its unique to you and you get to understand how you think, some connections are gonna happen that are cool, your memories and experiences entwined inside a language. And you get to use your mind

ohh my gooooooood

you know what you did what you thought is best and thats what matters

crazy

i dropped out of my masters degree cause it was brainwashing

Cause in school THEY DONT TEACH U HOW TO THINK

HA

[fresh flower]

What do you mean

[weary moss]

u think u will get a job cause of a diploma?

theres doctors without jobs

in fact they hide their degree

diploma is a shiny badge on your name that says you are a good obedient worker

listen now, im exagerating a bit but i do truly think this way

if your whole reason is that you want a job, go learn that skill

no degree, school is a distraction to leanr that skill

if u wanna learn programming, go make projects, if u wanna learn design go design

[high raven]

It's a qualification, not an assurance, you'll still have to compete with others and in most countries it's better to have an education than to not

[weary moss]

listen i finished my degree cause of my parents, they paid for my school and i felt bad about leaving so i finished just cause of them. if it was for me i would drop out 1st year and go work

and learn

masters

[high raven]

You need certificates for most programming jobs too, which require courses and an education. A portfolio of only projects is viable for only 0.01%

[weary moss]

NOPE

nowhere they teach comfyui

if you know comfyui theres jobs online remote that pay 10k

programming now its just claude code

[high raven]

Isn't that extremely recent? The issue with programming related college programs isn't that they don't teach you, it's that new tools are constantly released

[weary moss]

yeah so why waste time 4 years with outdated stuff

[uncut tiger]

why does the stuff have to change so fast

especially for ai engineer roles

[high raven]

To learn the basics, the same way a doctor doesn't choose a specialisation until after 6 years of med school

[weary moss]

by the time you graduate u have this false self assurance u did something when in reality u are a 0 and ur life has just begun

[high raven]

It's considerably easier to learn a new tool if you know the basics of how and why it works

[uncut tiger]

focus on gpa

[high raven]

This is very true, especially for CS as a field, your education is worthless if you didn't combine it with networking and/or projects

[high raven]

Most of them die out fast too, Kubernetes was the most recent hype I can think of, everyone and anyone wanted to learn and use it, they later realised that everyone and everything don't need Kubernetes

[uncut tiger]

rag is also an interesting example, these pipelines change MONTHLY

[weary moss]

you know whats funny,

you put a guy at 18 in hospital. first year he is just cleaning but he is watching the doctors do the work and he starts to understand the dynamics and systems in hospital, next year he might already be helping with doctors and then next 8 years he is being taught by real doctors, wathcing and learning like mentors

versus a guy that went through 20 years of medical school to get his degree and now he can finally work in the hospital

i think i choose the first guy all the time

[wheat dagger]

If you want you can also read a book from “For Dummies” ig that’s the name they go with.

[weary moss]

but unfortunately our system onyl allows the second guy

yeah yk maybe u right im sure they figured it out

[high raven]

This applies to a few roles, I'll agree on that, but some require certifications and an education to prove that you know what to do and how to do it, it's why we have unemployed doctors and nurses from Iraq, Iran, Syria and more in Norway and Sweden. They know what and how to do stuff, they're just not licensed to do it

It really should be mandatory everywhere, they're worth their weight in gold for CS

It's great but it assumes that you'd know that internships and projects are as necessary as your degree before you graduate, most CS students don't know that, it's why the field is arguably oversaturated

[woven quail]

10 more days

[weary moss]

idk i dont think like that, "what is good for me to get a job" I think, how can i learn as fast as i can to provide value in the world. and the more i understand the easier is it for me to create value out of nothing, which means creating a business and brinign money directly to me instead through an employer💸 . I do think its still valuable to go to college, just to see how pathetic it is and how much faster u can learn by yourself if you put your mind to it

[sick bronze]

I’m convinced they don’t do shit in Tech companies, the hardest part in your working career is to get hired somewhere without any contact’s involvement

They just occupy positions just to fulfill their roster ig

[high raven]

They really don't, most companies could pull an Elon Musk and trim the fat and still be functional

[sick bronze]

Exactly

[high raven]

@fresh flower Works in a tech company and he'll tell you himself that they don't do anything

[sick bronze]

New interns might suggest code semi-generated by AI, and take their time to debug that shit and improve and secure the code in 6 months (instead of doing it 3 months)

[fresh flower]

My workplace is LITERALLY a scam to get EU funding

[sick bronze]

RIGHTTT

[weary moss]

i worked in an ai agency, it was me, another pogrammer/designer a woman and 3 people in marketing including the boss. i was literally doing all the backed, then i said im quitting cause i wanna start my own buisness and they dragged me for 1 month more with the contract cause i need to teach the other guy what i was doing....

[sick bronze]

We do this and that, mfs have a team of 80-90 people just to make a new team for R&D and Data Analysis where they get EU fundings and they barely placed one person or two within the team, where Software Development teams have at least 20-25 members

[weary moss]

like every other fkn company

i hate this culture, nobody is doing any work everyone stealing money

[fresh flower]

Almost 100 people for a project that needs 10 people is insane 😭

[sick bronze]

No human being can convince me they work hard in this team like there’s already a huge architecture of the code placed 15-20 years ago. You just maintain and update code

And fix bugs

(By creating your own bugs)

[fresh flower]

It's genuinely boring, today at work I drank chocolate milk, looked at screens and argued on discord. I'm only using this as a stepping stone I fr can't think of doing nothing as a career

[sick bronze]

I see a lot of people wondering if they’re gonna be able to get hired and stuff like that

[high raven]

We had a total of around 1700 in-office employees for the company I worked for, I think it would function with just 500

[sick bronze]

Honestly, depends on your geolocation but for example in a hospital’s informatics service was looking for Software Engineers, Consultants and Project Managers, even Security Engineers. They don’t even require a degree like as long as you can prove you have some basic skills you’re fucking in that place

But what they struggle with, is that new interns can’t secure code, they tend to forget those things which is a lack of hard skills

And as soft skills, communication and teamwork is key

[fresh flower]

First job on your resume renders your education irrelevant

[sick bronze]

That’s kinda unfortunate

[fresh flower]

You worked here and you can do it, past education doesn't matter

[sick bronze]

Seeing your whole academic career gets wiped out and replaced by a position called “Junior Agent Consultant”

After all, my professors always said your first job won’t be the one you wished for

[fresh flower]

Lowkey know too many people who'd fail the communication part

[sick bronze]

That’s how life it is

[last geyser]

HI

[sick bronze]

That’s kind of complicated especially for cavemen to become communication gurus

[fresh flower]

That's me rn Junior GIS Analyst 💀💀💀 Mfs gave me a title when my job description is to "learn and become a part of the team"

[weary moss]

honestly my best decision after college was to get a shit a$$ job in the port

[sick bronze]

Wth the description has almost nothing to do with the position lmao

[fresh flower]

Bro I'm telling you its a scam for EU funding I'm not even joking, the company works with drones for farmers in the EU

The amount of spill is confusing idk why they pay so much for a drone survey

It cannot not be a scam

[sick bronze]

They have so much money and dunno how to waste it

[fresh flower]

My job at IKEA was more engaging and fun than this "real" job relevant to my education

[weary moss]

yeah... well i saw how most people live and work and go by their days, the port employs 20% of all workers in my city and it was a 0 thinking job, just do what u are told and thats it manual labour, so i could think about my life and what i really wanna do with it

[slender coral]

https://youtu.be/3PKXBwXYCog

[uncut tiger]

Who told you to work at a farm 💔

[rotund urchin]

the FARMacy

https://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-ryan-gosling-GpyS1lJXJYupG

[thorny steeple]

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[weary moss]

yes you are right

and no you dont need a diploma

yeah why not?

[thorny steeple]

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[weary moss]

you get muscles, you dont need to think on the job, you can save that energy to learn about the business you will do while on the job and after the job

you work for 6month save 3k or more and thats enough to start

?

thats what i did

why?

you send an emoji

oh this

yeah ur weak then idk

bruh your just avoiding work, its not like u will be there forever

listen to your boss for those 6 months

hate it, u need to hate it

because only after u really hate it u will want to succeed even more

then go work in the kitchen

YEAH SURE i can literally start work tomorrow

in a restaurnat

i mean ig we live in different places

restaurant always need staff here

Europe?

construction?

i didnt work in construction but that was my next choice

yeah see, go work in construction 6 months

thats the problem, u think u are better than this

i mean im sure u are but u learn a lot and its not like u gonna be there forever, but again the best part about it is you have time to think about your lfie and what u wanna do

you work 8h

i had 6am start shift and done at 14

so i literally had a full day ahead of me

Bruh what? You are on a contract and they cant do that

idk what kind of illegal shenanigs u have but in my country we dont have that lol, you have 8h shift and usually it ends at 7

because everyone wants to go home

life is hard for everyone

everyone has their life and their problems

yeah yeah your life is so hard

you are just like women

complaining all the time

then u picked the right path

go to school -> get a job -> settle

yay what a beautiful life

you dont get it

you just dont get it

you cant be like me

i rather do that then get a job and settle and cope im happy

u want to? Do you do them?

or u just want to like everyone else in this world

thats the mindset

the proof is the result

you can be working hard and do nothing

everyone says they are working hard

im just saying the proof is not the work

proof is the result that comes from it