🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVWDrc5jiTq/?igsh=c3hrMmIxZmpoMm82

Instagram

[quasi needle]

and i’m the equivalent of the US senior year

[thorny steeple]

Is this Ai

[quasi needle]

nothing monday nothing wednesday

[turbid dome]

Yeah that’s hardly anything lmao, I’m glad I’ve been done with high school though it’s hell

[quasi needle]

single maths today, double chem thursday, computing thursday, single chem friday

glory to the uk educational system

i only do 3 subjects

[turbid dome]

Wild

[quasi needle]

i’d end it all if i had to do like 7 subjects + AP classes

especially when u consider the last year of uk high school is equivalent to the first year of US university which is why our bachelor degrees are a year shorter

[vital sphinx]

I always wondered why degrees in oxford and ucl are mostly 3 years long

[quasi needle]

the US has K-12 while we have R-13

[vital sphinx]

Oh
I'm not American

[quasi needle]

most countries have 13 years of primary and secondary education including kindergarten

the uk and probably a lot of the commonwealth has 14

year 1 = kindergarten and reception year is the year before that so it starts a year earlier

[crystal kayak]

I heard vans and Charlie Kirk's wife are in secret relationship,Was it ever confirmed

[urban swift]

I can't raise a finger on a woman's character for no reason

These are just rumours

No concrete proof so far

[crystal kayak]

Yh I totally forgot about it,this pic reminded me.Can't wait for the van's files to be released

[crystal kayak]

"And men"

[winged wagon]

Are there any channels for like ammm academic language.

[sharp crater]

Hello, mortals

[fresh flower]

Wagwan bro

[thorny steeple]

Opopopopopoooooo

Israel on fire

[kindred cloak]

Hi, I'm from Bolivia, I speak Spanish, and I'm looking for an English teacher who wants to learn Spanish, or for a cultural exchange 😄

[turbid dome]

@pseudo flume 🥳🥳🥳

[crisp void]

It's the fire for eid coming

[thorny steeple]

OPOPOPOPOPOOOOOOOO

[turbid dome]

Is that over Tel Aviv?

[thorny steeple]

YES

Bucket of flower to them from the sky

[gray willow]

I thought it was a firework

[crisp void]

It's desney opening

[crisp void]

[e-mail] :

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-dive-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-neferpitou-pitou-gif-16058293

[thorny steeple]

My old ass phone doesnt open it

[thorny steeple]

IKRRR

[hallow solar]

How can I know my level at English ?

Is there any online exam that it can measure my level guys?

[thorny steeple]

Less than 1%

[turbid dome]

@feral river

[brisk eagle]

Hoeday!!

[trim veldt]

https://www.dw.com/en/400-killed-in-pakistani-strike-on-kabul-hospital-taliban/a-76388222

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071795785332703252/1483670687234261002/20260318_090617.jpg?ex=69bb6f81&is=69ba1e01&hm=95b6f9013ee67f26ccabcf4af375968b952b7d804b2be9ef2b2795dba9615646&

[turbid dome]

Yeah Pakistan decided to take terrorist attacks as an excuse to kill civilians

[pseudo flume]

Why these Su*nis are keep bombing eachothers

[pseudo flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1211329848874762281.gif

Desi me rollin

[turbid dome]

Frog exploding like tel aviv

[pseudo flume]

No, he's a warrior of islam

[turbid dome]

💀

[pseudo flume]

What does pakistan bombing afganistan has to do with my balls?

Biologically it's not possible, I've Diaz as evidence

[turbid dome]

Cause he’s right?

[pseudo flume]

Dude, sunnis are literally bombing eachothers

Look at statistics, more than 80% victims of Islamic terrorism are muslims

[turbid dome]

Is it just politicians?

I mean, here in the US the Christians are insane. Religion as a system produces undesirable results. Same would go for any religion really.

[pseudo flume]

Toes, not again

And i do agree islam according to many scholars is different from islamic terrorism

You need to understand first what my point is

Probably put a toe in your mouth your brain might work optimally

[turbid dome]

Should probably state it in very simple terms

Or if you’re anarchist, you would probably reject stating it

What?

[magic olive]

@spark hearth hey, can you open a report under <General Support>

i'm testing something

Done

[turbid dome]

Not everything is religion, a large part is certainly poverty and systemic conditions created by outside powers. But why does religion consistently fuel extremism? Religion itself is not a non factor. Holy books often contain violence and ruthlessness, vengeance and the like, rigid hierarchy and more all dressed up as moral. It’s no surprise then that religion produces hierarchy and violence

[olive herald]

seju

[pseudo flume]

Sunnis are bombing eachothers, and muslims are the biggest victims of Islamic terrorism

[urban swift]

That extreme ideology is the culprit.
Have made many suffer

And the audacity of claiming to get accepted by God(the purest being) is unfathomable

[urban widget]

ngl after talking to many muslims they won't do nothing to solve their own problems but complain

13-14 arab countries and they won't even solve 1 problem bullying them

[next thorn]

you got the car but you need the fuel, religion could be one

this is basically why the bigger war that happens before there will be some specific violent events to trigger it to happen

it was still very required to have an event that is extreme enough as the excuse to convince the people to go to war

[nova fulcrum]

bro cooked something on a discord chat

[next thorn]

like 9/11

[nova fulcrum]

but respek

[viral lintel]

u wrote an entire book

[uncut tiger]

Good morning serious

[native bronze]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY @verbal torrent

[patent ginkgo]

Good morning

Eid Mubarak in advance! 🌙✨

[thorny steeple]

hello

[round forge]

chat what's a gerund

[cursive bobcat]

Word: gerund

Definition (noun): a noun formed from a verb (such as the `-ing' form of an English verb when used as a noun)

Definition requested by epilogue3742

[round forge]

I need an explaination

those are just verbs 😭

[wary plover]

It’s an verb thay ends with ing but used as noun

Running is verb

Not gerundd

[round forge]

In that sentence, Running is a gerund btw, Also in this sentence

[round forge]

ing is an example but not specifically tho like in that definition

"Run is a verb people use when they wanna travel"

Run here is also a gerund but not an ing

[wary plover]

Gerund is specifically ing form of verb functioning as a noun as far as Ik run is just the base verb right ig

[round forge]

@wary plover from this definition

[round forge]

it dosent specify it needs to be ing

[wary plover]

It’s not optional

[round forge]

You are just repeating

while I told the reason

[wary plover]

“Gerund is noun formed from verb by adding ing functions as noun” that’s what I know

[round forge]

You are just saying your opinion

[round forge]

while ignoring what source I pointed to, right here

?def gerund

[cursive bobcat]

Word: gerund

Definition (noun): a noun formed from a verb (such as the `-ing' form of an English verb when used as a noun)

Definition requested by default_fake

[wary plover]

What… ok me wrong so you are saying that gerund isn’t ending with ing always?

[round forge]

Yes

According to this definition

[wary plover]

Else its wrong either its mixing up gerund should end with ing

That’s what my teacher taught me

Running is an adjective

[round forge]

Thats your opinion, no matter who "taught" you

You cannot say something is "wrong" if its an opinion

Either give a different source backing you or dont say

[wary plover]

Tho

[woven quail]

Wait guys I have seen some news that European countries won’t buy oil from Russia anymore💀

[pseudo flume]

Is it even possible with current volatility in west asia

[wary plover]

Ok sir https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gerund?

[wary plover]

Really

[woven quail]

Idk maybe it’s be a suggestion

[woven quail]

Yeah I’ve seen that news

[round forge]

Thank you

[round forge]

Do you have any alternatives for what verbs not ing acting as nouns are called

[wary plover]

Infinitive right? Or norminizaloxagion or whatever it’s called

[wary plover]

Damn

Anyways bye

[undone stone]

Hello

[empty plaza]

Moom

[woven quail]

@dapper pier
I’d said I won’t answer u but I have too

Why is there a silence regarding the extensive political and economic agreements that Israel maintains with several Arab nations? A clear example is the Abraham Accords
Even when Israel conducts military operations in Gaza or Lebanon, most of these Arab states limit their response to timid condemnations while ensuring their economic ties remain uninterrupted

The reality is that the Kurds as a stateless nation have always sought to establish relations with various global powers simply to ensure their own survival and protection However these efforts have never reached the level of the formal strategic alliances that many Arab states currently maintain with Israel

[urban swift]

Imagine kurds having no back up

[woven quail]

Imagine the genocide Arab will do

[urban swift]

And the crime against women

[woven quail]

Fuck no omg

[woven quail]

Do u know in most of their countries they don’t have any rules for woman against his man marriage

For example before getting married in here like Kurdistan region the woman in the court can say I want the divorce be in my hand too and I don’t want the man marrying another woman

But in Iraq u can’t

Omg may Allah never let me be under their rules

Phobia

[dapper pier]

So ?

Bro I am not arab I am turkish

[woven quail]

Omg even more good

[woven quail]

Even turkey

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[woven quail]

NATO

https://tenor.com/view/nato-flag-gif-20870371

[dapper pier]

I am trying to tell you I hope we will not be enemy eventually

[woven quail]

Why we will be enemies

[dapper pier]

Because of pkk ypg

[woven quail]

Aren’t ya guys already arrested apo

And why ypg

They are just chilling in rojava

[dapper pier]

He is arested but party try to create relationships with him

[woven quail]

And fortunately Turkish solders got out in rojava

U don’t like that?

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[dapper pier]

I just don't want to more bomb in my cities

And preventing children deads

[woven quail]

I don’t want my ppl get died by Turkish soldiers too

[dapper pier]

App have killed lots of children

[woven quail]

Afrin free kobane free

[wind zephyr]

Why this chat is so depressing to read

[woven quail]

Ure talking like turkey didn’t do anything

[wind zephyr]

[dapper pier]

Your people is safe

[woven quail]

Really? Ure talking like turkey is the angel

[wind zephyr]

[woven quail]

They didn’t do anything meanwhile they did worse

[dapper pier]

What we did ?

[woven quail]

Omg! Ure fr?

[dapper pier]

Your behaviour is still like an enemy

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[dapper pier]

The future is not bright

[woven quail]

I’m supporting my ppl

[woven quail]

So what the Turks will also attack us again ?

[dapper pier]

Build your country and don't touch us and I hope we will not touch you

[dapper pier]

So terrorist kill our children again ,m

[woven quail]

I think u should tell your country to stop involving with us

[woven quail]

When?

[wind zephyr]

Song is weird

[woven quail]

Isreal ? Or USA ?

[woven quail]

In the 1990s, Turkey destroyed more than 3,000 Kurdish villages, leading to the displacement of millions of Kurds. In Rojava (Northern Syria), they have killed hundreds of civilians and thousands of fighters.
In the Dersim Massacre, 13,806 people were killed; thousands more were deported to western Turkey, and orphaned children were given to Turkish families to change their identity and erase their heritage.
Furthermore, in the Roboski Massacre, Turkish fighter jets bombarded a group of young Kurdish men engaged in border trade (smuggling), resulting in the deaths of 34 youths

[dapper pier]

😁

[wind zephyr]

Shia? Turkey shia?

[woven quail]

This is called terrorist

[wind zephyr]

Too much violence in this world

[dapper pier]

You attacked our country and killed our soldiers previously 😂What should we do give you rose ?

[wind zephyr]

Ok dead

[woven quail]

U love atatürk Ik

😂

[dapper pier]

Ataturk is my father

[wind zephyr]

What's ataturk?

[dapper pier]

Where are you from ?

[woven quail]

😂😂😂

[wind zephyr]

Hm? Is it necessary?

[dapper pier]

Oh god you are really a turkish enemy 😆

[dapper pier]

Nope

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[weary belfry]

💀 why are they doing this

[dapper pier]

Oky

[woven quail]

If it was not pkk Kurdish language will stay banned 😂

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[woven quail]

Na wallah only those who love ataturk

Alhamdulilah

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[woven quail]

I can’t believe he told me I support terrorist when he loves ataturk😂

[dapper pier]

Every turkish love ataturk if. You don't like ataturk i don't mind

[woven quail]

Ofc I don’t like him he’s burning in hell rn

[dapper pier]

Sad

[wind zephyr]

They are criticising men?

Oh

[weary belfry]

i mean that women

in the video

[wind zephyr]

💀

[weary belfry]

are they throwing their headscarfs?

to men

💀 why tho

[wind zephyr]

They are criticising them

[weary belfry]

this felt more like... an insult to the islam. why do they throw their headscarves while men are trying to pray there 🙏

ohhh

now makes sense

[wind zephyr]

Hm they can't even protect the masjid In which they prey

That's the context ig

[weary belfry]

true

but still looks strange

[wind zephyr]

Why except u

[weary belfry]

yes, you were women

woman*

thats why we celebrated ur womens day

yes, we

who could be

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[dapper pier]

We can say most of people😂

I am lesbian too doesn't mean I 'm gay

Don't mind

Where are you from?

[shell hemlock]

Oh wrong channel

[viral summit]

hey everyone

[idle mango]

Is there any Assyrian in here?

[untold wing]

?def assyrian

[cursive bobcat]

Word: assyrian

Definition 1 (noun): the language of modern Iraq
Definition 2 (noun): an extinct language of the Assyrians in ancient Mesopotamia
Definition 3 (noun): an inhabitant of ancient Assyria

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by mohit.okay

[idle mango]

@high raven I'm so sorry for bothering you, but you are Assyrian right?

[hybrid iris]

Do you speak Arabic @sturdy mango

Ibn Tiyymah said:

“What the people of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamā‘ah hold as belief is that the Arab people, as a whole, are superior to the non-Arabs—such as the Hebrews, Syriac peoples, Romans, Persians, and others.

And that Quraysh is superior among the Arabs, and that Banū Hāshim is superior among Quraysh, and that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ is the best of Banū Hāshim. Therefore, he is the best of creation in himself and the noblest of them in lineage.”

[hybrid iris]

If you don’t speak Arabic I am not interested talking to you, I can teach you if you want tho

You don’t know where is Allah, your walaa and bara against any country is not gonna give you ajr

[hybrid iris]

It’s like Mehmed II, his achievements are worthless in the after life

Politically nothing are wrong except what harms your economy or ruling

Islam is my standard to evaluate things

[vocal moth]

I’m extremely serious

[hybrid iris]

Twheed something you never had nor you understand

May Allah keep our hearts on it and never deceive us like how you been deceived

[hallow kernel]

Are you sure that this is real ?

[hybrid iris]

1- grave of Saudi rulers
2- grave of iran ruler
3- grave of atturak

[zinc patio]

[hybrid iris]

Saudi is not perfect

For example this guy is not banned from entering makkah @sturdy mango even tho it’s clear in islam the it’s holy land

If Saudi rulers are perfect he wouldn’t be allowed to enter Makkah since he doesn’t know where is Allah

If you can provide me with your name so I put your name in blacklist so you can’t enter Saudi @sturdy mango

[thorny steeple]

Blacklist

Bro why u are so harsh on him

If u know smthn important then teach him

Why argue

[hybrid iris]

He said awful stuff about islam

He also used word back###s and he called me ped# supporter

[hybrid iris]

I already offered teaching since I speak Arabic

[hybrid iris]

Muslims don’t use foul language

Prophet Mohamed is my inspiring person

Peace be upon him

[thorny steeple]

You have الولاء والبراء concept

[austere moat]

[idle mango]

What

[hybrid iris]

You don’t believe commanding twheed is more important than defending

You are not in the same boat as me

[verbal torrent]

Dang is tht real

Tsk tsk tsk

[thorny steeple]

Imagine non-muslims or new ones come and see this kind og stuff they'll never want to see islam again

[idle mango]

Anyways

There is no superior in islam.

[verbal torrent]

Yeah yeah ive been reading yall text for hours idk how did he end up w this topic here

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/رهبر-آقا-رهبری-خامنه-ای-فرمانده-کل-قوا-gif-16371073303613428780

[idle mango]

Even natives don't read Qur'an tho

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pops-head-up-surprise-interested-mentalist-listening-gif-2429420855867690657

[cedar oar]

Say, are you a muslim, Leilif?

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[idle mango]

Yes I am.

[high rapids]

I´m not

[cedar oar]

Do you believe Allah is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent (all loving and therefore willing to prevent harm whenever possible)?

[idle mango]

So?

[high rapids]

Can we still be friends?

[idle mango]

Ofc

[idle mango]

Yes absolutely

[cedar oar]

Then how do you explain the suffering of innocent people? Is it free will?

[idle mango]

Cause I'm not blaming Allah about human sins. But it is my "belief" Tho. Don't put is god good or not discussion to me, I already thought too much about it. Find answer for yourself with your own way. It's your way, I can't help you about it.

[next thorn]

because they are not innocent ?

[cedar oar]

I'm just trying to see your perspective. But how is it the sins of humans if Allah created them with the full knowledge of what it would cause, considering he is also omniscient, and therefore not preventing harm, and thus not being all loving

[thorny steeple]

But whats my sin for loving her so deeply

[next thorn]

lack of money

[cedar oar]

I'm pretty sure a 5 year old is innocent

[thorny steeple]

Jxxbdbdbdhdhd

[thorny steeple]

Yeah u got a point

[next thorn]

that's because you think it is innocent does mean it was innocent just by the cause

[thorny steeple]

She used to say u all i need

[cedar oar]

Why aren't they innocent? You must prove their guilt, surely

[next thorn]

if the cause was, that you mentioned was absolutely innocent, who was the evil there

the God ?

[cedar oar]

What?

[next thorn]

how is it justified for you by your perspective to prove one's innocence ?

[cedar oar]

Aren't people innocent until proven guilty? I'm asking you to provide your claim for why they are guilty

[next thorn]

that happened

[cedar oar]

What do you mean by that happened? I'm asking for your claim for why they are guilty

[next thorn]

if God is about to punish the evil side, therefore that happened, they are evil.

it is a very simple logic isn't it

[cedar oar]

You mean just because God punishes them they become evil? Seems like an assertion without valid premises

[next thorn]

premises is what you made for yourself, the thing just happened

[cedar oar]

Seriously, man, what are you talking about? Be more precise, please

[next thorn]

you can't simply say they are innocent but they were killed not you

[cedar oar]

The burden of proof lies on the people claiming they are guilty because it is they who must prove a positive

Suppose I declare my neighbor guilty of murder. Does that just go without any evidence?

Same case for theism and atheism -- theists are the ones positing the exitence of something which does not apparently exist

Hence, trying to prove a positive

[toxic lake]

The children are innocent because they don't even know how the world works.
punish them with eternal torment seems disproportional.

[next thorn]

here's the thing, you asked me about why a 5 year old girl got killed is not innocent, I question that if they got killed which itself was the proof of they weren't innocent

[cedar oar]

Children are innocent because they are incapable of judgement

[next thorn]

otherwise your conclusion would be, the God might punish the innocent people

because if you identify the girl that was killed was innocent, it was under the order of the God

[toxic lake]

wut

[next thorn]

so in that conclusion God would punish the innocent people

[cedar oar]

So, you're telling me just because they got killed that proves they aren't innocent? That's an argument by assertion

[hybrid iris]

Where is Allah?

[next thorn]

it is not argument by assertion it is accomplished fact with cause

you can't argue they were innocent in the first place they got killed

the non-innocents weren't got killed

[cedar oar]

Yes, it is. You claim that the child was murdered and because of it is guilty. That's called an argument by assertion and is fallacious in reasoning

[toxic lake]

Oh, they can. It's just more or black and white kind of justice.

[verbal torrent]

Why are u so obssesed w this question its not even related to topic
What exact answer are u looking for

[next thorn]

from which perspective may I ask ? the government ?

[toxic lake]

Uh, baby with cancer or baby in abortion perhap?

[idle mango]

.Five years ago, I decided to leave Islam and become an agnostic. Last year, however, in the midst of all this research and reflection, I returned to Islam. All these questions were the ones that led me to question religion and God. However, as I lived my life, I observed and realized that people are constantly looking for an excuse or someone to blame for every sin and wrongdoing. We are beings who refuse to take responsibility for our own sins, yet try to ease our consciences with the thought, “God created me this way; if He created me this way, then this is definitely God’s fault.” We could provide a lengthy explanation of this issue, examine it from a scientific perspective, analyze it philosophically and psychologically, or delve deeper into the question using religious terminology, but in the end, the place we always arrive at is that, as Allah mentions in the Quran, humans are ungrateful, selfish, and prone to waste. Our inability to balance our consciousness and instincts is not God’s fault; it is humanity’s own fault. When we lack the courage to blame ourselves, it is easiest to shift the blame onto the devil or God. But if you want a definitive answer, it is this: we are being tested on the choice between using our mind and not using it. That is my belief.

[thorny steeple]

Zehrw why u ignore my congratulation of ur bday

[hybrid iris]

It’s question been asked by prophet Mohamed

I have no interest to talk with someone claims to be muslim and he doesn’t answer correctly

[next thorn]

if you choose the government's stance so it is guilty yeah because government dictates whether a person is guilty or not

[idle mango]

@cedar oar

[next thorn]

but by God, how could God would punish innocent people ?

if they were killed, they could they prove their innocence in front of the God

[cedar oar]

No, from logic defined and used as a standard for a tool of reasoning. You are simply asserting that they are guilty because God killed them. That's like me saying the sky is red because I said so

[next thorn]

why weren't the murders got killed instead

[thorny steeple]

U answer

Whats ur answer

[next thorn]

because it is under the order of the God or else you don't believe in God at all

[hybrid iris]

If they are punished then they are not innocent

[next thorn]

exactly

they were killed, they weren't innocent

[verbal torrent]

I didnt see itt thanks u asko

[toxic lake]

I don't see why we can't judge others in our comfort zone?
Like because we aren't in war doesn't mean we cannot war is bad.

[hybrid iris]

So someone live between wrongdoers and he do nothing about it

He is wrongdoer also

[thorny steeple]

Ohhh

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ZEHRWCWM become fatter @verbal torrent 🏳️‍🌈 🩷🧡🥳🪅🎊🍺🎉🪅

[next thorn]

well you can argue with it but here what would we generally believe was the opposite of what you claimed for

[verbal torrent]

MAL

[cedar oar]

No, that's victim-blaming. We are the victims of an unjust God if we are to assume such a god even exists. And the latter part is completely unrelated to logic. We can analyse logically and arrive at sound conclusions yet you seem to suggest that that is somehow lacking and supplanted by the oh-so profound wisdom of Allah and the Quran

[next thorn]

it was a very clear logic let me break apart of this argument

[cedar oar]

Could you please rephrase your sentence? I really am struggling to udnerstand your exact meaning here

[thorny steeple]

Whattt

[next thorn]

a girl got killed, is not innocent because it was killed under the God's order

[thorny steeple]

We only have 1 zehrw Everyone should know

[hybrid iris]

But it’s not necessarily punishment

God’s test people with suffering to forgive their sins @next thorn

[toxic lake]

Then, you have to bite a bullet that's Palestine genocide is in God's will.

[next thorn]

I don't think it is a good idea to argue with the God if you are a believer

[hybrid iris]

God said that he test believers with sadness to forgive their sins

Diseases like depression and anxiety is from God

That’s why depression is been found a lot within Muslims

[next thorn]

I'm saying that we are living in a world that was under the order of the God, and a girl that you would say was innocent got killed, and what I would conclude that under the God only non-innocent people would be punished, under this premise the girl wasn't innocent

[hybrid iris]

Same as headache and fever

People who don’t get fever and headache gonna be in hell

[next thorn]

I think you need to some help yourself, it is also because of the God that we have developed this far that is enough for you to find more help to cure these

we have the way of curing because of the God

[toxic lake]

God create those problems tho...

[next thorn]

amen

[toxic lake]

He can just, y'know, don't do that

[cedar oar]

That's an assertion, not a conclusion.
P1 = God punishes only the guilty
P2 = A child died of murder (nothing here about divine punishment)
C = The child is guilty (Assertion about the child's status)

[next thorn]

it is assertion based on your claim of they weren't innocent which I rejected from

[ember spear]

Human beings are free in their choices and not predestined. God did not command that act to happen He simply knew it would occur and recorded it in that person’s fate.

[next thorn]

but it was a simply conclusion following the rule of the God

[cedar oar]

Would you please rephrase that or use a damned AI to make your sentences more comprehensible? I'm forced to interpret your meaning here

[next thorn]

everything was under the God, I don't think anyone could escape what God was commanded to, including the evil of what human would think

evil wasn't defined by human, it was defined by the God

[cedar oar]

And considering he is omnipotent, he had the capacity to stop it, yet did not, contradicting his omnibenevolence as he did not exercise his full-love by preventing evil, thus concluded that he either is not wholly benevolent or just is not all powerful

[next thorn]

may I ask which part you have confused

[cedar oar]

Everything. It's as if I have to guess at your meaning. It's not really possible to argue like this when a communication barrier exists

[next thorn]

I think, it's only you don't understand it ?

let me copy what I have said just right now

I'm saying that we are living in a world that was under the order of the God, and a girl that you would say was innocent got killed, and what I would conclude that under the God only non-innocent people would be punished, under this premise the girl wasn't innocent

[cedar oar]

No, I believe many people are compelled to interpret it to their liking

[toxic lake]

What is god we are talking about?
Are we talking omni-maxxing god or moral almighty god?

[thorny steeple]

Zeus

Everyone talk in their native language

[next thorn]

I think there is no complicated point to understand

[thorny steeple]

Thered be better understanding

[next thorn]

it is a very simple logic

[toxic lake]

for real

[thorny steeple]

Shalom

[cedar oar]

Yes, but the problem is that your entire argument is one big assertion. You're interpreting the girl to be guilty, but ignoring the possibility of God not being just

[next thorn]

I set my argument based on the God that commanded everything to be happen

[toxic lake]

Then why prevent disease at all?
we shouldn't interfere with god's judgement, right?

[cedar oar]

So, there is no free will

[next thorn]

if you are going to change this rule, everything changes I believe

that's what I believe to

[cedar oar]

You believe there is no free will?

[next thorn]

under the command of the God yes

[cedar oar]

So, you claim that God deterministically causes everything to happen?

[next thorn]

not what I claim, but what I believed to

I think that also changes depends on your religion

[cedar oar]

Okay, so you believe God deterministically causes everything to happen?

[next thorn]

yes

[thorny steeple]

U choose to delay ur pee and later on get ur kidneys ruined and then blame free will for it?😱

[cedar oar]

And you also believe that God fully loves everyone and prevents evil whenever possible?

[thorny steeple]

Does the doc say its free will's fault or ur dumass

[next thorn]

well ? I don't think so

[idle mango]

No, on the contrary, I’m saying that God knows the deepest, ugliest aspects of human nature. Well, if that’s the case, I’ll have to give some extremely disturbing examples. I want you to think of a sociopathic serial killer. Medicine will say that this man’s actions stem from his illness. A sociopath’s brain is clearly defective, so why do you think he has criminal responsibility? Or consider a pedophile—this man is attracted to children because of a defect in his brain, but why does he still have criminal responsibility? There’s a very simple answer to this: humans know very well what is good and what is evil. They’ve known since childhood. Every person with an average IQ who understands the general concept of evil commits an act knowing the consequences it will bring. In other words, even though they can’t choose who they were born as, they choose who they are. The test itself is this: a person doesn’t die as the person they were born as, but as the person they chose to be—and the test is, after all, about who you choose to be. You might tell me this is cruel, and I understand you with all my heart, but as I see the people around me, I believe this is the reality I’ve come to accept. That’s why I told you I can’t help you. Because nothing I say to you can be the clear answer to the questions you’re seeking. I cannot prove to you in any way the existence or nonexistence of God, His goodness or evil, or why He created humanity. Everything I tell you at this point is based on what I have learned and know on my own path—which is why we call it faith. And my faith will be my truth.In other words, I can’t give you reality; I can only give you my own truths. If you’re not interested in building your own truths based on mine, you already know that I can’t give you reality. Now, the question you need to ask yourself is this: Why do you feel the need to hear my truths while searching for reality? ++

++Deep down, you know you can’t reach reality, but you want to test your own truths against mine. What you’re seeking shouldn’t be reality; what you’re seeking should be what your heart desires. What does your heart desire?. .

[next thorn]

I think God created everything because it would to be created under the will of God which we have to no way to prove it, and I think based on what the God was commanded, vanish would to be the most close concept to evil

so who was getting closer to be vanished, was designated evil

[cedar oar]

No, humans do not know what good and evil are, they define it by their standards. Consider the religions of ancient Phoenicia and the sacrifices to Baal. Then, such child sacrifice was considered morally acceptable, and so was slavery. Yet now it is considered ridiculous. And besides, you are assuming evil is an absolute phenomenon which exists and is not relativistically defined -- which it likely is, considering we have yet no proof of the contrary. You'd have to address this before having me move further in your argument as it that is the basis thereof

[lilac iron]

@plush python

[toxic lake]

that's begging the question.

Why create evil?

[cedar oar]

If he created everything, is omnipotent and omniscient, he then would have known of the harm his creation would have caused. My problem lies in you ignoring that omnibenevolence entails absolute love, if you do even accept it as a quality of God, and that his allowance for any evil, no matter how indirect, would still contradict infinite love

[toxic lake]

Because we know there is a place with no evil (heaven). why don't just create only that.

[wind zephyr]

Holy paragraphs

[hybrid iris]

Some diseases still incurable

Suffer is not necessarily punishment

It’s blessing from Allah to erase our sins

[toxic lake]

Is it like pain that warn us that we doing something wrong?

[idle mango]

Well, if you want to get to the roots of morality, then—assuming you have no mental issues—almost everyone feels compassion for someone who is crying in pain. You see this very clearly, especially in children. I believe it is a flawed approach to examine human beings individually by looking at the behaviors they exhibit based on their societies’ religious beliefs. In ancient times, people who sacrificed children to Baal were acting morally according to their own religion—I agree with you on that—but I’m still certain that deep down, they knew sacrificing children was utterly repugnant. In general, I believe every human being possesses a certain sense of conscience. Of course, if you don’t think so, we can’t discuss this further. We need to treat societal evils and individual evils differently. Societies are made up of individuals, and the religion I believe in speaks more to the individual than to society.

[wind zephyr]

...

[toxic lake]

you said every human being has innate moral compass but then you exclude who born with mental issues.
I feel like those are contradictions.

[cedar oar]

"Almost" everyone, still yet an assertion. I've seen many people consider such people "weak" by their own moral compass -- not that I support them, just citing a counterexample.

And how is it flawed to examine them sociologically? You also claim that you agree there yet then again tell me they somehow knew it was wrong? Isn't that an assumption, again?

But I appreciate your precision in language. Thank you

[pseudo flume]

I disagree

[wind zephyr]

On what

[pseudo flume]

...

[cedar oar]

Bill!

[wind zephyr]

I agree

[cerulean pivot]

Wallahi y'all have to get out of discord abit

[pseudo flume]

It's based on anecdotal evidence, your claims have no truth value

[pseudo flume]

Bird

[cedar oar]

Bill, you should see what I'm arguing against: #🧠｜serious-chat message

[wind zephyr]

Hm?

[pseudo flume]

Epic fail

[wind zephyr]

?def anecdotal

[cursive bobcat]

Word: anecdotal

Definition 1 (adjective): characterized by or given to telling anecdotes
Definition 2 (null): having the character of an anecdote

Definition requested by cylus_mylus

[wind zephyr]

Epic insult

[cerulean pivot]

Why are you pink

[pseudo flume]

Because I'm communist misandrist

[cerulean pivot]

Gay Aladdin before gta6

[pseudo flume]

I ain't reading aladat

[toxic lake]

?def misandrist

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[cedar oar]

Zenax is here too. How could this get any better?

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[wind zephyr]

Hm from where u got these words

[cedar oar]

Zamn

[cerulean pivot]

He's always right

[cedar oar]

What did he say?

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[wind zephyr]

Teriasiikitadi

...

[cedar oar]

Well, he isn't wrong

[cerulean pivot]

Average madkhali

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[cerulean pivot]

If saudi did it's alright

[cedar oar]

And what would that be?

[cerulean pivot]

Y'all are khawarj wallahi

Just follow your rulers

[wind zephyr]

Hm so many new words

Yoself?

[pseudo flume]

Btw MHK is sunni wahabi

[wind zephyr]

Yourself*

[cerulean pivot]

You Hm ing a lot lately

[wind zephyr]

Ok

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah Hm and ok that's the guy i know

[idle mango]

No, what I’m arguing is that every person has a conscience (except those with brain disorders), and that everyone else knows very well what good and evil mean. I’m absolutely certain that everyone knows the difference between good and evil. That’s my observation. But experiments conducted on children also prove this to some extent. If there is no brain disorder, we are born with compassion. As for universal evil, I believe it is known to people—even sociopaths. Things like r*e or murder. Blaming God or the devil by attributing this to societal morality or corruption doesn’t change the fact that evil chooses to be evil. At this point, there’s no logic in blaming God. But as I said, this is my belief system and my value judgment. You may think differently. I answered because I was specifically asked.

[wind zephyr]

Yes

[wind zephyr]

U guys use ai

[toxic lake]

where did you get that article, bro 😭

[cerulean pivot]

Fucking capitalists

[cedar oar]

This presupposes the existence of absolute morality and that people inherently know it, which is technically unfalsifiable as many excuses could be made for why we are unable to observe such knowledge. I think you're conflating general conscience with more sophisticated ethics developed by centuries of tradition, as one is a simple biological response while the other is a more encompassing concept which includes rigorous definitions and methodical resolutions. I blame God logically, because he is omnipotent and all loving yet does not prevent the evil he has caused directly or indirectly, and therefore cannot be fully loving as he knew of what harm his actions would cause

[wind zephyr]

Hm copy paste

[idle mango]

I think people know exactly why they do what they do, and they often lie even to themselves. That’s why, in my view, blaming the devil or God is an extremely cowardly or devious act. I think they simply hide behind excuses—like “society’s rules are like this,” “the devil made me do it,” “God created me this way,” or “my mind is messed up”—and that these excuses are usually just about trying to get off the hook. Humans are beings capable of using anything for their own good and benefit, and I believe there is no need to seek excuses for this.

[wind zephyr]

...

Oh

[cedar oar]

I believe we're essentially stuck in a loop of you claiming people have such sophisticated knowledge of what is good and what is evil, and I denying it considering the sociological contradictions thereof. I could argue further, but we'd just keep recycling this. I believe, however, the latter position is more scientifically justifiable as no evidence for this sophisticated knowledge exists -- of course, I am saying sophisticated as I do not deny that basic biological responses exist

[wind zephyr]

Tuh kya Ghar me banao?

Have u ever made samosa in house?

[idle mango]

On the contrary, I believe that people should take responsibility and, instead of constantly blaming others, acknowledge that they are the ones at fault—and that this is not God’s fault. I respect your views, but I don’t think I can contribute much more to this discussion.🙏 Still, it was nice to discuss this.

[wind zephyr]

Oh u are lucky

[idle mango]

Oh you already said same thing

[cedar oar]

Yeah, pretty much. It's just an endless loop at this point

[idle mango]

Haha we agreed about it. Thanks for respectful discuss have a nice day

[cedar oar]

But I do dislike your position of believing that people are looking for others to blame. That is victim-blaming

But yes, a nice day to you too

[idle mango]

I don't think so

[cedar oar]

I suppose it wouldn't be wholly incorrect with your axiom of people being aware of such morality

But that is a different axiom the authenticity of which I highly suggest for you to examine because I do not think any scientist would support it

[idle mango]

I wouldn’t use the term “victim-blaming” when referring to people who commit harmful acts. I haven’t claimed that the victims of these acts are to blame. But I also can’t view a sociopath as a victim.

[cedar oar]

Suppose a thief steals out of extreme poverty and hunger. How is he to blamed for stealing if he cannot help it? I think we should really get our axioms on before arguing about anything, really

[mystic bay]

I'd still blame him 😌

[cedar oar]

Blame him for succumbing to a biological drive?

[mystic bay]

Yes

[idle mango]

This is a special case. At this point, I don’t think either God or humans would blame the thief anyway. The definition of evil I’m referring to is the kind of obvious evil that everyone acknowledges—crimes committed “perhaps just for the sake of pleasure.” I sincerely believe that God’s justice is supremely superior, and I know that He would never act unjustly.

[cedar oar]

Doesn't seem fair to me. Does it to you?

[mystic bay]

I blame paedophiles for succumbing to a biological drive as well

[idle mango]

But as I said, it's my belief.

[cedar oar]

Provide some examples of those crimes, please

[idle mango]

R.pe for example

[cedar oar]

Fair enough, but I still think that cosmologically nothing truly can be judged as good or bad and we use only relativistic morality

Well, defined morality that is

Man, I am practically hung to the over

[mystic bay]

We don't want to hear about how hung you are

[cedar oar]

You might not, but certain people do

[modest herald]

Remove the slowmode ahh

[idle mango]

That is why I told you that I believe God speaks to the individual, beyond the concepts of social good and evil. In my view, God’s understanding of morality is specific to the individual. I believe there is a fair concept of goodness for every individual and every life. But as I mentioned earlier, at this point we’ll only be discussing our beliefs, and these will be nothing more than our own truths. That’s why this conversation won’t give anyone a clear idea of what the truth is. That’s what I meant when I said I couldn’t help you.

[cedar oar]

Yeah, but at least cycling the same statements keeps the chat alive

[modest herald]

Fuck old things we discussing new topic

@quartz latch i summon u here

Nope

RACISM IS NOT A DISORDER.

[toxic lake]

Nah racism is a built-in feature like us vs them

[modest herald]

Allow me to put my point. Racism is basically an act we do or any individual does on the basis of stereotypes. Also it is used to make other person feel low

So racism is not a disorder it's a choice

Let's take an example

[cedar oar]

Not just stereotypes, I don't think. Many simply dislike others despite a good reason lacking

[modest herald]

Yeah that's why I also stated that it's for making the other person feel down

[cedar oar]

Fair enough, then

[modest herald]

So yeah. For example let's take two racism. The American has a low aqi thing and the Indian stinks one. Even though they were once true or maybe at a point and a place are true. But saying that all are of those kinds would be a generalization. Cz not all are of those kinds no? So the thing is, those things were earned ? Yes from the 1900s for Indians ig and latest on social media for Americans as well

But that doesn't mean it's still the truth

It applies at a point but saying all do it, would be like calling all white girls as only fans girls cz some part of it do that act

But it's what the person gets through environmental effect no? Like how society leads the individual in a manner. For ex - it's the same way an English person can speak English without learning it. But through repetitive cognitive acts. But the countries where it's not done, it's not cognitive. Same goes to the places or houses those who don't teach racism are not racist

Frrr. Like that's what I'm saying. Like most of the racism is being done. The same implies to "indians being called scammers or other countries as well but im highlighting india cz it's highlighted nowadays." Again yes they earned it, some and they couldn't stop it. It's the govt and the people's fault as well no. So the racism is gonna exist with regards to that as well.

[shell hemlock]

Tbh most Indians in every single country I’ve been to have a stink, obviously not all of them but it is well observed

[modest herald]

U should be the last person to speak about stinking tbh. Not bathing for days and applying deodorant to not smell as "Stinky"

But yeah they should apply deodorant as well

But in the end society holds people yk. And people contain all of us?

Lemme guess. Someone blindly consuming those poor stupidass perspective

Do u think people who are busy have that much time for that? Lemme guess it's a busy city? But I agree that people should apply deodorant. That's valid

Everyone has their things yk. The most developed countries are even going backwards when it comes down to civics behavior sooo.. but I'd say give people time if they wanna improve

Do u think taking a bath removes the stinky things? Genetic things often cause more sweat just for ya information.

Only if we survive 2030 haha. But the Apophis coming next year

Either Apophis would be the most majestic view or our last view

BEGGERS can't be choosers no?

How Diabolical it is tht people gotta use public transport and then use slurs against it hehe. But improvement can be done

I guess it occurs in busy people. Don't tell me he believes that whites or any other race don't stink or farts hahha

PEOPLE FACING THAT SAME PROBLEM AND "PEOPLE" NOT Committing TO IMPROVE IT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Ur statement gave that view lad hahaha

But still the people we state About, we should be changing ourselves first no? Change starts with an individual's act done for a long run

Btw what was the reason behind h8tler causing those killings ehh? I'm intrigued

But not working on urself first to improve is. No? I presume u apply deodorant on daily basis?

I'm interested... Lemme hear it out

Wait racism faced by white people? When did that happen?

Jkk Ik what u getting at haha

And yes only white people weren't the one to cause racism yk

U mean deja vu kinda thing. But it holds the almighty concept, to whom such a thing never occurred?

Ayoooo😭

I mean u ain't wrong though

Like when I think about the gold rush

The colonization

SLAUGHTER occured

The whole world was.

White people become white due to the lack of sunlight and all. That's why white people are more prone to depression (not proven just a theory)

Caught* hehe

It's ok

So we came to define racism and how this is going on in the world. And most of the racism sucks but not lie either and still most of it is generalizing haha

I've heard about the one entity as like the main tree with several branches and Infinite branches where every fruit defines a universe and the cells within the cells as uncountable species. The growing and dying of fruit defines the working of the universe and the existence of the multiverse

Imma read that

Hmmm

Nhhh imma avoid it

I should be going now. I gave two exams yesterday (6hrs total) for today as well and same will be for tomorrow as well

It's hard but used to it

[shell hemlock]

Go back in your mom’s womb

[modest herald]

Take xare

[modest herald]

That's more sensible place than being with a stupid head

[shell hemlock]

“You should be the last person to speak about stinking” have you smelled me? Or you’re a stalker and smelled me secretly 😂😂😂😂😂

[shell hemlock]

More sensible than being you

[modest herald]

It's a usual thing. Had several female friends. And also the perks of having ex girlfriends

[modest herald]

At least it has "sensible" in it. Unlike ya existence

Nhhh u assuming those two as well imma tell u

[shell hemlock]

So you told people not to generalize Indians smelling bad but… you also generalize women smelling bad, are you a hypocrite? 😂

[modest herald]

That's u being generous

[shell hemlock]

You have Hitler in your pfp sweetie

@fresh flower I joined chat, time to fire up the place bestie

Thank you so much, screenshot taken

@magic olive I love this place! ❤️

[modest herald]

It wasn't for just "indians" first of all. It was about the generalization team. And how is it generalizing when it fits to every second girl (and not just physically but from socials as well)

Also my apologies if it felt generalization. But when it fits 80% it ain't totally generalization

[modest herald]

@magic olive she's playing victim card there

[thorny steeple]

Whats wrong with having hitler pfp

[shell hemlock]

That was my point about Indians as well babes, but I don’t think you used your critical thinking skills because a girl like me came here with an opinion and your ego got hurt

[thorny steeple]

Me and him have documentary discussions about history from time to time all for knowledge

[modest herald]

@magic olive people should don't start something they can't finish

[thorny steeple]

Or are u accusing him of supporting the past german regime wheres ur proof

[shell hemlock]

I have all screenshots taken babes

😘😘😘

Boohoo cry about it

[modest herald]

Critical thinking and total hatred are two different things btw. And opinions are not supposed to be on generalization. That's what u did. U stated urself that some stink and some don't. So if u are saying some indians and than saying some don't. That's just nullification

[shell hemlock]

Total hatred? 😂 did you even read?

[modest herald]

The best card ain't ab atm for them but letting them play their fav card ain't a good thing no?

[shell hemlock]

You are not using your braincells babes

[modest herald]

Not all of em are also indians btw and some also contains indians bruh

[shell hemlock]

Put em to use come on I know you can do it ❤️

[modest herald]

Using a brian cells against females ? Hahhaa

[shell hemlock]

Are you illiterate? Genuine question, no offense

[modest herald]

Hhaha diabolical terms ahh

[modest herald]

What made u come to that point? If u wanna play guess the game thing? Save that for ur spineless guy bruh. If u wanna hold something so explain it, rather than on playing guess the shit through clues

[modest herald]

Those ain't gonna shit to me hahahaha

[shell hemlock]

It’s so easy to trigger you, I’ll take my leave now while you’re fired up and have nowhere else to take your rage to

[modest herald]

People have life outside the discord bebes

😭

[modest herald]

OH MY GODDD WHAT AM I GONNA DO WITH THE RAGE SHE GAVE ME AHHH SAVE ME HAGHAHAHA😭

STEP OFF BEECH

Obv not everyone would waste their words out on them hahaha

Oh I came up with a new thing @quartz latch

Let's talk about - Do u think women are actually pretty or it's the male's genes and the urge to reproduce makes them beautiful?

I have my things but wanna hear u out

Why didn't I include the female things towards men? Cz it's just curiosity for them.

So i could give less shit to their curiosity

So yeah it's not the person who's beautiful but our eyes and our genes do, right?

Hahahhaha

Specially those 300 lbs fatass stinky shits

Oh so like if she can produce well or not?

Lad u missed the fun ahh

Nhh we past it

[fresh flower]

What's up my brother from another mother

You're starting to understand bro

[modest herald]

Wdymmmm 😭

[modest herald]

Um take the beginner section for these chats pwease 😭

But I'm not wrong no?

[wind zephyr]

Is he indian

[fresh flower]

Those guys are goofy they immediately associate Israel with Jews but if you say all Jews are X they call you antisemitic

[wind zephyr]

Just guessing

[shell hemlock]

Wassup my nerdizzle

[fresh flower]

Mujahid is someone who does jihad

[modest herald]

Sooo, that's the reason also, doesn't matter how good the betch might look but the moment her character stinks I don't prefer to give a shit?

[wind zephyr]

When are arab start defending isreal

[fresh flower]

It was what all those ISIS guys called themselves

[wind zephyr]

Ok

[old totem]

Thank Allah, there are people here who debate...

[fresh flower]

What's your zodiac bro I'm doing a survey

[wind zephyr]

What u are doing here

[shell hemlock]

Zodiac sign? Apparently I’m a Virgo

Zindabad? You’re bad

[old totem]

I'm here to check who debate

[shell hemlock]

🔥

[wind zephyr]

Oh

[old totem]

Long live combodia

[modest herald]

Ohhhhh... So that makes sense. U can find any girl attractive but when it comes down to those actual character things, people start hating them despite hair beauty

[wind zephyr]

Edited

[shell hemlock]

Cambodia number one

[old totem]

Who is he

Oh

[hybrid iris]

I blocked them

Read 4:140

[modest herald]

Imma google it

[shell hemlock]

Cambodia number one

[modest herald]

Hmmmm. That's also the reason when the guy starts losing interest in lust often thrives more

Yeah like why not

Imma paste what google says

Imma paste

Understanding the Difference Between Zionists and Jews

To provide a clear and comprehensive answer, it is important to define both terms and explain their relationship and distinctions.

1. Who are Jews?

Jews are members of an ethnoreligious group originating from the ancient Israelites and Hebrews of the historical Land of Israel.
Judaism is their religion, but Jewish identity can also be cultural, ethnic, or national.
Jews have a shared history, culture, language (Hebrew and others), and religious traditions.
Jewish identity is diverse and includes secular, religious, cultural, and ethnic dimensions.

2. What is Zionism?

Zionism is a political and nationalist movement that emerged in the late 19th century.
Its primary goal was the establishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory historically known as Palestine (modern-day Israel and surrounding areas).
Zionism arose as a response to widespread anti-Semitism and persecution in Europe and elsewhere.
Zionism is not a religion but a political ideology or movement.
There are different streams of Zionism (religious Zionism, secular Zionism, cultural Zionism, etc.).

3. Are Zionists and Jews the Same?

Not all Jews are Zionists. Many Jews support the idea of Israel as a Jewish state, but some do not identify with Zionism for religious, political, or ideological reasons.
Not all Zionists are Jews. There are non-Jewish supporters of Zionism who advocate for the Jewish right to a homeland in Israel.
Zionism is a subset of political beliefs related to Jewish nationalism and statehood, while Jewish identity is broader and encompasses religion, ethnicity, culture, and history.

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[modest herald]

This is what I got . And that guy ain't wrong duh

Barely 2. I wanna learn japanese and barely know a bit. It's like i wanna watch h anime without subtitles 😭

It's all about learning signs no? In the end everything happens consciously

@thorny steeple FART HARD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE WAR STOP

IN 1945 IT WAS A FART THAT STOPPED A WAR

Oh actually 2 farts

They call it atomic bombs I call it artificial farting. Humans can't breath in both things yk

So yeahh they were farts

U talking about political identity and not a religion right?

Wait really??

[thorny steeple]

Ahhahahah u didnt get what i said did u

[plain ruin]

Yes

[modest herald]

Wow but the aura of Germans ahhhh. H8tler was laughing on Roosevelt's message ahh

[modest herald]

Nope

[thorny steeple]

Hahahaha

[wind zephyr]

Hm

It's a weapon

[plain ruin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/five-nights-at-freddys-fnf-freddy-dark-ghost-753vDgjsnH30eUYTBI

[modest herald]

Hypocrites to the hell?? What happened to right to freedom for making choices? Hello??

Even atheist says "oh my god" hahaha

[modest herald]

It was about kids

[plain ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sheikh-fake-cry-crying-man-crying-sheikh-gif-18098038

[wind zephyr]

Hm they create different religions so people can convert and fight with eachother

[modest herald]

And it's not including all jews but mere zionists?

[plain ruin]

Quiet

[modest herald]

Maybe in another hahaha

[modest herald]

Um which religion did the most forceful conversion btw?

Not thing just asking

[wind zephyr]

U want controversy?

[modest herald]

Nope just data

[wind zephyr]

I don't have data

[modest herald]

There's no point of controversy there lad

[plain ruin]

Yes, Zionists are separate. There's lots of Anti-Zionist organizations made by Jewish people

[modest herald]

Sant me to Google it

[shell hemlock]

NYC Jews

[modest herald]

Again I'd love if u state "some" in it

Nothing wrong in saying the truth bruh

Lemme search the data

[plain ruin]

There's a lot.

[wind zephyr]

Yes

[modest herald]

In the end it's all america using a piece of land and blood to attain something ahhhh hahaha

[wind zephyr]

Reverted hm

[modest herald]

Highest. And forced

[plain ruin]

It's both ways, they both benefit each other

[modest herald]

Actually opposite

[plain ruin]

Well these are the well known anti-zionist organizations, the list might only include registered organizations and whatnot, there's obviously a lot more
The point of the list is to point out that even Jewish people can be against Zionism, and no one has issues with them

[plain ruin]

You should look up the statements by Netanyahu on why the US should go to war with Iraq, from before 2002

It's a repetition

[modest herald]

2002 was to create a statement on the world ig after the cold war had ended recently and all

Btw the data on forceful conversion

Historically, the religions most associated with large-scale forced conversions are Christianity and Islam, particularly during certain periods of expansion and conquest:

Christianity: During the medieval period, especially with the Crusades, the Inquisition, and European colonialism, Christianity was spread in many regions through force or coercion. Examples include forced conversions of indigenous peoples in the Americas and parts of Africa and Asia during European colonization.
Islam: In various historical contexts, such as during the early Islamic conquests and later in South Asia under certain rulers, forced conversions to Islam occurred. Some historians note significant forced conversions in parts of South Asia during the Mughal period and other Islamic empires.
Other religions: Hinduism and Buddhism have also seen forced conversions in certain historical contexts, though less frequently on a large scale compared to Christianity and Islam.

Overall, Christianity and Islam have been the religions most frequently linked to the highest numbers of forced conversions historically, often tied to political and military power rather than purely religious motives.

If you want, I can provide detailed historical examples or statistics related to specific regions or periods.

[plain ruin]

I'm talking about how he and others justified the Iraq invasion claiming "WMD"
And none were found.

"Creating a statement" makes no sense when you look at the civilian casualties

And weak justifications

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pops-head-up-surprise-interested-mentalist-listening-gif-2429420855867690657

[modest herald]

Saying israel is the center around the world idk that's a conspiracy for now but I'm not denying it either

[plain ruin]

I don't think they're the center of everything either, but they contribute a lot to the problems in the region

[undone stone]

Hi

[modest herald]

Idk like at this time israel is just being used noo? Lol like the land thing and all. Their people are dying (which are western actually). America ain't losing anything but their ego

Woahhhh but this server is for that thing yk

[high rapids]

aha

[plain ruin]

Mhmmmm I don't think so, even here, Trump's entire campaign ran around "no more wars"

Then in 2025, Israel hit Iran, which led to Iran pulling out of their nuclear facility inspection deal
And now in 2025 too

I'm not sure why Trump changed his mind, especially since top intelligence officials, such as Joe Kent, Former Director of the United States National Counterterrorism Center, resigned today because he and many others believe that the war situation is being manufactured by Israel and does not have enough foresight. There also are many US officials in intelligence that say that while Iran has high enrichment levels, they would still not be enough for nuclear weapons.

[modest herald]

Ummm so we are denying these consensus

The question of whether Islam spread in South Asia primarily through forceful conversions or peaceful means such as trade and cultural exchange is a subject of significant historical debate. Here is a detailed overview of the consensus and arguments related to the claim that Islam was spread by forceful conversion in South Asia, rather than just through trade:

Historical Context and Evidence of Forceful Conversion in South Asia

Military Conquests and Political Power:

The early Muslim conquests in parts of South Asia, especially during the Delhi Sultanate and Mughal Empire periods, involved military campaigns that sometimes resulted in forced conversions.
Some historical records and accounts mention instances where non-Muslims were pressured or coerced to convert to Islam under certain rulers or during specific campaigns.
Forced conversions were often linked to political control and consolidation of power rather than purely religious motives.
Examples from Historical Sources:

Some historians cite episodes such as the campaigns of Mahmud of Ghazni and later Mughal rulers who imposed jizya (a tax on non-Muslims) and at times enforced conversions.
There are documented cases of destruction of temples and forced conversions in certain regions, which are used as evidence of coercion.
Scholarly Debate and Nuance:

Many modern historians argue that while forced conversions did occur, they were not the predominant method of Islam’s spread in South Asia.
The majority of conversions are believed to have been voluntary or influenced by social, economic, and cultural factors, including the appeal of Sufi saints and the integration of Islamic culture.
Forced conversions were often localized and sporadic rather than widespread or systematic.
Trade and Cultural Exchange:

Also yes several parts took it through trade as well yes

[plain ruin]

Forget that, did you see the buildings? They're falling to the floor
Iran's attacks on residential buildings, which are also bad, still targeted particular floors and stuff like that, unlike simply levelling an entire building.

[modest herald]

Hahah call about privacy

[plain ruin]

@sturdy mango I'm hungry give me something

[modest herald]

imagine TRUMP GIVING LECTURES TO OBAMA ON WARS THAT HE'D CAUSE WARS AND NOW HE HAS STARTED A WAR HIMSELF HSHA

[plain ruin]

Hahaha, well
Irony at the end of the day

He had a lot of support because of claiming to stop the endless wars and to pull american troops out of the world

Not anymore

[modest herald]

Not just he didn't stand on his words but went polar opposite to it

[plain ruin]

Yup, that's why I think it's fairly right to say that it's Israel that has a decent foothold over the US

[lilac iron]

🕊️

[plain ruin]

Lots of typical anti-zionist leftists such as AOC have also ended up defending Israel

Make sure to do wudu again

[uncut tiger]

Y'all what is a leftist

[modest herald]

Or maybe trump just not taking responsibility. But after epstien things nothing makes sense

[plain ruin]

At the end of the day, the largest and some of the largest donators to politicians in the US are Israeli
AIPAC explicitly mentions Israel and not Jews

[plain ruin]

You

[uncut tiger]

Nah I'm fr

I don't understand right left bs

[warm sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-infowars-chew-jew-jewish-gif-12295419607760287413

[old totem]

Odd people here

[modest herald]

Wasn't it more like, either give jizya or get converted? But that wasn't the base. The base was that islam wasn't in south asia and came through wars and forceful conversions no? Jizya is something comes under islam rule. But islam rule comes when the islam is ruling there duh. And if it was for trades why did I searched mentioned destruction of religious places?

[plain ruin]

Leftists usually are for ideas that benefit individuals as members of society
You can say they are "progressives", such as Obama/Biden/Kamala/Bernie Sanders/The Clintons

While rightists are like Trump/JD Vance/Netanyahu/Modi etc. etc.

[modest herald]

Yeah . I mean, is trump even american? Like when we got back to ancestry

[thorny steeple]

Ahahaha No

[plain ruin]

Even if they did convert, as a muslim they would still have an annual obligation though

[plain ruin]

The concept of an American is very muddy, excluding the Native Americans, Americans are basically just a collection of Europeans

Trump has Irish/Scot origins iirc

[modest herald]

Obligation comes later but first it was about spreading

People claiming it happened through trades when a lot of SLAUGHTER was mentioned in the past

[plain ruin]

I'm just pointing out that it doesn't make sense that "Jizya or convert" because even if they convert, they'd have to pay a similar fee with a different name

[modest herald]

Yeahh lol

[plain ruin]

It would depend on the kingdom itself, if they charged Jizya at higher rates than Zakat

[modest herald]

Yeahh it varied in most of the regions

[high rapids]

Yo you wanna stop using AI?

[modest herald]

Yesss oni san

[high rapids]

Go argue with AI and stop waste people´s time

[modest herald]

I never denied it's ai generated. Bruhh it's about retrieving data from internet

[high rapids]

please shut up

[modest herald]

From where do u think ai generate it's results?

From the data provided

[high rapids]

Why do I always have to argue with trump supporters

[modest herald]

Shut urself up bruh if u can't understand that trivial matter. That ai can be used for data retrieving

[high rapids]

pls stop

[modest herald]

Hahahhaha @plain ruin he thinks I'm trump supporter ahh

[modest herald]

Stop what? Putting sense into ur head? Yeaa

[high rapids]

I also think your dumb

[modest herald]

Base?

Now I don't have to prove WHO'S turning out to be more dumb

[high rapids]

I've been waiting for you to write something; it took a little longer to get ChatGPT up and running ❤️

[modest herald]

Bud it's ur ping that sucks lmfao.

It's been a whole 5 mins since I've delivered my message

[high rapids]

I'm ingame haha

[modest herald]

Bruhhhh

Which game?

[high rapids]

lol

[modest herald]

League of legends?

I've played mobile legends duh. (Don't u dare defame me, even lol is a copy of dota)

[high rapids]

yes

[modest herald]

It's good no?

[magic olive]

Sniped

[high rapids]

Its okay

[modest herald]

Broo look the whole thing please

[somber pollen]

everyone here should get yeapper role

[modest herald]

No just one side

[magic olive]

wym

[modest herald]

I need her

[modest herald]

Umm she started it

[magic olive]

..

[modest herald]

I gave a ss after that

[modest herald]

He's just trolling we all know

[magic olive]

Yup Yup

Taken care of

[modest herald]

We had a good discussion. He was a good guy duh

To talk with

She legit said this

In 2026 he can be anything

[urban swift]

Sneaky ahh shii

Provocative

[ebon bluff]

i remember her bullying me cuz of being gen z😔💔

[modest herald]

I don't even give a shit about her bruh

[modest herald]

@magic olive another one against her

Or leave it, he's tired enough for that

[modest herald]

Can't end up falling in fake traps no. Proofs is all we want

[untold wing]

Here i am

[modest herald]

Wait imma ping the beginning

[untold wing]

Nah thanks
The conversation seems too long and religious and political?

[modest herald]

Kinda

Wait not that. It became religious later on. In SUMMERY - she made some points about stinking I countered it and then she blatantly about the mom joke. The guy countered and things happened

[ebon bluff]

dawwg my guy is back

hows that destroying the world thing going bro

dude im joking😭

p*do one

lmfaooo

hes so fun tho

he asking us to hail the state of palestine

[lilac iron]

@untold wing

[ebon bluff]

why are you tagging them everywhere

[trim veldt]

https://www.dw.com/en/400-killed-in-pakistani-strike-on-kabul-hospital-taliban/a-76388222

[modest herald]

That guy got a prob with ai using

[trim veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071795785332703252/1483670687234261002/20260318_090617.jpg?ex=69bc1841&is=69bac6c1&hm=e7cafd97c85853fb495fba814b95736914fe1e8574ba7fff166ea852b42d3438&

[high rapids]

What's the point of a discussion or conversation if, in the end, you just have an AI write the answer and then copy it?

[modest herald]

Oh afg ain't getting the hype bruh

[high rapids]

Na I´m just curious

[modest herald]

I'm too tired for it but will reply in a while

[modest herald]

That ain't even curiosity. That's H A T E HAHAH

I'm not saying if he's wrong or right I'm saying it's not curiosity

[trim veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/salman-khan-salman-bhai-character-hindi-meme-dhee-la-gif-8585903628882813901

Israel be like

[modest herald]

These are the same bitches who be crying about feminism this and that but when they ask, what are the rights that men do and women don't, they shut their asses off

[idle mango]

I think this guy is NPC

[high rapids]

If you want to believe that I’m full of hatred for people who use AI, I won’t stop you from believing what you want

[plain ruin]

It started with Abdul251

[high rapids]

What you mean

[plain ruin]

Number 1 AI user

[trim veldt]

If people are not discussing issues, that is what we have to do here.

[high rapids]

Yes true

[plain ruin]

He used AI so hard, he had to edit the AI response with spelling and grammar mistakes to convince us he wasnt

[high rapids]

Banned

[modest herald]

I AGREE BUT IM USING IT TO RETRIEVE DATA FROM THE GOOGLE YK. NOT GONNA SIT THERE SEARCHING EVERY BIT IF IT

Who is he here?

[plain ruin]

Banned

Holocaust denial

[trim veldt]

Beggers can't be choosers
https://youtube.com/shorts/EYvtTJEbuDs

[high rapids]

yes he said its not true like it never happend

[plain ruin]

It doesn't matter, it's against Discord's TOS, EngHub not taking action against it will lead to problems for them

[modest herald]

Who he?

[plain ruin]

It's not about them running anything, it's about hate speech against known facts

[modest herald]

Lol

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-crime-michael-scott-gif-22021373

[uncut tiger]

@plain ruin mf explain to me rn im lazy to search

explain in fortnite terms

[shell birch]

My friend's book that he wrote for years.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GSKL35DL

[empty plaza]

Tldr pls

[fresh flower]

Does it have pictures

[shell hemlock]

I’m literally Gen Z

I’m sorry to say this but some of you guys are too sensitive

[granite rampart]

🍿

[sterile fractal]

Helloe

[hoary wolf]

Is someone here from Greece? I have a few questions

[untold wing]

Lets do a debade

In broke English

[slender coral]

A Muslim and a Christian prosetlyzing in the perfect place for it, in the comment section of a man talking about his experience with stoma.

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DV89RoPkYHK/?igsh=M3N4cXB3eDJyY3Nn

[ebon bluff]

sensitive💀 sis who said i was offended

have you heard about sarcasm?

[manic juniper]

They should discuss about more important stuff, such as when is Sony going to stop updating the PS3

They released 4.93 just yesterday

[slender coral]

Fr

That's more important than their religions.

[untold wing]

Sony still provide support for Ps3? Damn

[manic juniper]

They updated keys and certificates for Blu-ray

[viral imp]

Which one was your favorite dinosaur? Am I too generic if I say Spinosaurus?

[plain ruin]

The terrible Madame Web movie is a better sight for the eyes

[tiny bluff]

These people are so funny, every religion has many lines in the book that contradict each other, it's like the spider man pointing finger at each other meme

[ebon bluff]

fr

[olive herald]

HELLLO ISFRUN

[prisma cipher]

I heard they preparing to close ps4 support, but seeing ps3 I doubt that

[trim forge]

hi guys

[tiny bluff]

Could be

[manic juniper]

They will stop releasing PS4 games but I doubt that applies to indie games

PS4 online software is the same as the PS5 one so it will survive even longer than PS3 ever will

[undone stone]

Hi gamer

[weary belfry]

No way you sent this in serious chat

[fresh flower]

Ban him

[weary belfry]

@sturdy mango remember your enemies..

[prisma cipher]

I forget my enemies

[last geyser]

HI GUYS

[keen mountain]

hi

[fringe temple]

This shit is serious fr

[last geyser]

What

[fringe temple]

This chat 🗣️

[last geyser]

I see

I aint blind

[fringe temple]

https://tenor.com/view/türkiye-turkey-gif-11198383169865843648

[last geyser]

I wont scream i am sick of this country fr

[floral blade]

If you're born born in the middle east it's game over

[last geyser]

I aint

Turkiye isnt like other M.E countrries

We have only economic problems

[floral blade]

Yeah it's much better I think

[last geyser]

Where are u from

[floral blade]

Egypt

[last geyser]

Nice country

[floral blade]

We won't scream anymore then

[floral blade]

Turkey is better

[last geyser]

Cause of sisi?

[floral blade]

Yeah exactly

😂

[last geyser]

I am so sorry for egypt

Sisi isnt democratic

[floral blade]

Here if you have money you can buy anything even you can buy marks of someone can you imagine that

[floral blade]

He's just a thief

[last geyser]

Egypt has potential challange to isreal, but egypt dont say anything to israel because of pion sisi

Egypt is strong country in normally

[last geyser]

Oh, how could this possible?

[floral blade]

Easy if you have much money everything is possible

The faculty of medicine here full of failure people cause of that

They bought the Marks

[last geyser]

So there are many events like nepotism.

[floral blade]

Yeah

Too many

[last geyser]

Here is same too

[quasi lantern]

Hii

[floral blade]

But I think the salaries is suitable right ?

[floral blade]

Hello

In Egypt some people Receive salaries like 6000
And just to buy a single shirt it costs 1500
Wtf

[last geyser]

Salaries are no longer enough here, the monthly minimum salary here is 28,000 Turkish liras, but house rents 25,000 Turkish liras with the remaining 3,000 you cannot even pay the bills

[floral blade]

We are the same

[last geyser]

I told about minimum salary, in normaly people dont usually have this salaries, average 33.000

or changing

[floral blade]

Some people here get 100 per a day

It can't even provide your food

You will earn 0 at the end of the month

[last geyser]

Yeah Middle East unfortunately

[floral blade]

Change the topic I got upset

[last geyser]

HAHAHAHAA

[floral blade]

[last geyser]

Okay lets change it

[floral blade]

Have you joined this server to a specific purpose or not

[last geyser]

No

Actually yes and no

Practice in english

Its still sucks 😃

[floral blade]

Yeah me too

I'm not bad in chatting but the biggest struggle with speaking

[last geyser]

Same

And listening unfortunately

[keen mountain]

me too

im so bad at grammar

[floral blade]

Someone told me you should listen English videos everyday at least 20 min

[floral blade]

It will get better over time

[keen mountain]

thx

[floral blade]

Yw

[last geyser]

In my language; verbs are end of the words, but in english it is reverse, there are " am, is, are" ( i forgot these's name) in turkish we have no like this thing

Thats why sometimes its difficult for me

[floral blade]

Whenever I try to speak my vocabulary just disappear

[floral blade]

Yeah me too the sentence is not the same

But you know if we don't make mistakes , we will never learn

[keen mountain]

i basically stopped consuming thai media and only watch English content for the past 3 years. that made me able to speak a little english lol

[floral blade]

Yeah , your listening skill must be really good now

[last geyser]

English is easisest language despite i cant still understand sometimes and grammars too

[keen mountain]

yeah i can talk with the native but with a broken accents and grammar hahaha

[floral blade]

I'm passionate about English so I won't get bored easily

[floral blade]

We all trash I think

So guys I gtg if you want to chat with me later send me a friend request

[last geyser]

I am bored sometimes because of i am r*c|st

[keen mountain]

what

[last geyser]

Lmao just kidding

[keen mountain]

lol

[woven quail]

You know you know where you are with till collapsing falling