#🧠|serious-chat
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It was during roman-persian wars
Like two Head eagle symbols
The star and crescent? Didn't they use the swastika?
Or wolf symbols
They must be Turks
Nah they arent lol
Turks used, swastika too, it belongs to asian geography
Not only one nation
The oldest swastika was found in Ukraine
The thing here is found ,
History can change easily with new
Architects,
May it be during European Huns? The European Huns was rulying Ukraine lands ( sorry for my english )
Yeah, then I'll wait for new discoveries but until then it's unlikely it originated in Africa
His imperial sense is tingling
No that was over 11k years ago
The thing is Turks were doing so many trades or getting wars with the other nations , we weren't built cities or other things, so we just met with many cultures like Persians, Chinese, Byzantium or slavs
True
So just talking about something like it just belongs to us is the wrong thing
We were affected by so many different cultures
Leaving Central Asia was a mistake
So good
It's better to have Turkey in between so Greece doesn't have to border with Syria
Yeah Greece can't handle middle eastern geography with that army ideas
Middle east punches hard
I bet Greece would cry to EU for middle eastern illegal groups
probably, and after that they wouldn't pay their debts to them
Turkiye should open borders again
I guess
Immigrants should go Europe thats not our problem
Yeah , actually we have such strong geopolitics, energy lines crossing in our country
It is the reason why we helped Libya btw , we are controlling those lines
At least sometimes our president uses his brain
I don't think Greece would lose to an earthquake
5% percent maybe
Yes, that's why they renew wildfires every year.
Lol
Natural Disasters country btw, Greece can't handle all of them at the same time I guess
Greece, famously known for low seismic activity
@turbid dome how is the war going,all the news I receive is just about US and Israel are bombing iran.And when I receive news about Iran is how their missile was intercepted and how their navy is getting destroyed.Is Iran really losing that bad
Earthquake not our problem, we dont do it. We try to take precautions, but people don't care.

This newroz gonna be 3 newroz 😍
Lav wassup,I heard trump is going to use y'all Kurdish people to invade iran
It’s not Iran
Is that tru
East of Kurdistan
Trump saying if ya all want to take back east ya can go do it
So I don’t actually know what is happening
Just like during saddam Husain downfall
No, the oil prices are surging so the US may have to recalculate
So what has your government decided are they going to take it
We have force in east 
Kurdish force is not only in here south
We have in Iran too
Are they going to invade or not
What’s invade it’s our land ?
Iran took it and they keep killing Kurdish ppl
They executed Kurdish ppl every day with different excuses
Even kids
Do you see a cease Fire coming and isn't Iranian missile hitting anything because I have not seen any news outlets report any damage in Israel.
They are the Iranian Kurds opposition parties, not us
Israel has a military censor so three no free press there, they can hide it
Idk how long it will take ngl
Ohh so are your government thinking of taking back the land
Idk African country thinking about to take back their oil from USA ?
Kurds there asked for no fly zone like here so turkey can't bomb them
The Rojhelati (Iranian Kurdish) parties have set three conditions for the United States:
- Establishment of a No-Fly Zone: A no-fly zone must be established over the Kurdish regions, and the U.S. must provide them with military armaments.
- Guarantee of Self-Governance: The U.S. must provide a formal commitment to support their right to self-governance (autonomy).
- Security Guarantee for the Kurdistan Region: The U.S. must act as a guarantor for the peace and security of the Kurdistan Region.
We use USA too 
US: “Bet” sends money to proxy group to destroy Kurdish region
Let them do it
......
Not even gonna say anything
What we use USA too
Pkk are in kurdistan region too but turkey can't use jets because of no fly zone
Y'all are actually insecure
Why
Y'all wanna bootlick the US so bad , start to generalize it as if it's something necessary
Shia started talking again
Shoutout to Punch
let's us see the iron domes capabilities
You're so empty that u changed the political topic into religious one
Says a lot about you
I asked if you government is going to take the land back and you took that as an insult
I’m not the one who keep talking against us
This is a public server 😄
I answered u it’s not the south government
Look back at your messages at least talk with respect
Did i say something wrong tho 😔
"Bootlick" hurts your feelings?
Yeah I mean I’m seeing some reports but haven’t seen how credible they are that US and Israel don’t have many planes over Iran as they claim but are only securely over border regions, and they have to use drones to hit Tehran
You're doing much worse than that
Not sure how true it is but seems possible
No fighting guys you'll both be living in Germany soon💔🥀
I hope u soon find out what’s happening to Iraq stolen money
One of the richest countries in the world
Why? Has this become normal for you?
They don’t know where are their money
I think he’s coming to Kurdistan for his vacation
I am not following this war because of this like,all the news outlets are sucking up to Israel and the US.They make it look like Iran has lost already.
*Northern iraq
Nuh I'm not in the mood for that
Look now we are talking about Iraqi
They love to claim that
It’s only losing tactically, but they’re accepting Us and Israeli claims at face value. Strategically I think Iran is actually winning and in a dominant position
Well said
She's kurdish btw
Ain't no way that's real picture
Like ? Being Iranian militias ?
You do realize I'm not talking to you
I stand with zenax even tho he is a nazi
What
How’s your electricity
If he don’t die for iran
Wait wha ......
Thanks
Oh I think Kurdistan stopped sending gas to Iraq
I'm reading liver transplant
You said you all or what you thought no one will see
Just found out Iraq doesn't have a telecom company 😭
Beats not having a country code for your telecommunications
Where’s their money
There was a little girl named nova here from afganistan , I hope she is doing good.
Sus
🍿
Why are you eating natos
Not code like the company Communication Company
What's the sticky white thing
Japanese delicacy
That's basically fermented beans
This leads to formation of the mucoid sticky stuff here

It's eaten with egg and soya sauce
Jap food is disgusting
How so
Besides sushi they fr have nothing
Argument over how early 😔
Only for a japanese hottie
I'd never accept egg and rice concept
It’s popcorn
Hottie 🙅♂️ kawai 
Well Iran is getting pummeled which is bad in the short term but in the long term they’re winning on cost effectiveness and the global economic aspect, as well as showing they’re too tough for a future intervention to be worth it
Don't talk inbetween when guys are talking abou manly stuff
You're getting old
Ong
I'm not in the right mind for a relationship
When I was your age I already had 2 kids
Who put kids in you
Arranged marriage is the key
I will sue them
And ruin my life if they turn out to be bad
What was the manly stuff
Not having a Communication Company in iraq ?
They won't
You're a good father
that will be a death sentence
No good or bad, just working together
I'm not a father lmao
You'll be
And now they are in pkk right
Btw when are you going to marry zenax? Ever thought of that?
Yes, we have spies on the inside 
When i have enough money
Damn
But you can buy a lot of things with bachelor money
Fuck married life
Yeah that's how it goes
Iraqi shia wants to save their kids from pkk brain washed so bad so they made a law for 9 years old kids to get married
With the current inflation I don't think so
You know a lot bro shed some light
What's a pkk brain wash
Gotta have multiple jobs or somthin
You wanna save more?
Bro really wants to be a family man
I meant the fcking part in marriage, that's true at least
In professor Jiang we trust,he has some dumb takes but overall he is good.He predicted that the US will lose this war and hopefully it comes true.I am done with the US involving themselves with everything
Don't you mean.... a family guy?....
Are we talking about experience or sciene
The minimum requirements for mehr here are 10-15k$
Beside that
U gotta build a house ofc which atleast cost 100k$ and higher
Idk i saw them said that
But getting loan helps you with taxes too
That's too much
Marry an African who has seen nothing
For My bachelor's degree which is pharmacy
The monthly payment is 600$,
If
I got enrollment in hospitals
Which is even harder for now , gotta wait 2 years after graduation
@fresh flower did you noticed that
They are not that bad but some who are, I don't think zenax will like them appearance wise
Plan B
It's all about money for them they don't care about the lives 😓😓😓💔💔💔
I'm doing mbbs and even I don't feel like I would be getting a job lmao
These capitalist mfs are making shit harder and harder for us
Bro I swear
I will find a Kurd wife for Ashura
Totally understandable
Marriage sounds like a prison sentence
Tbh at this point I might as well start seeing patient with a stand outside a slum

Lmao what
Yes
Looking at rain and lavender's personality I will like to opt out
You'd see it as punishment to be with the person you love? Okay lol
Yo long time no see
Depends do I love them
@mint parrot @woven quail Are you taking this
More importantly do they love me🤔
He said you guys STINK
Why are you causing kurdish invasion
What's pkk though I saw you mentioned it before
Yeah Ashura
How's it going?
Exactly
Double it and give it to the next person
I'm good bro hows life and college
I didn’t mention it, yeah My bad
Those kurds who fight turkey
Well, in my case, I don't love anyone enough to want a marriage
💔🥀
I mean if the other person loves you more that will still be better. You will be happy
Witches don't marry, witches against patriarchy forever
Meh. It feels like something that brakes or handcuffs
Life ain't that good and I'm doing a job currently. Btw how's it on your side?
You have a point
I mean it's okish
Witches are not supposed to get married
😭

Glad to hear, doctor.
Is 9 years eligible for marriage rule in Iraq true?
I'm gonna bomb you soon
Depends on their religion
I don’t think so
Like I'm not supposed to get laid
Why so
🥀
I'm not that cruel to pretend for a long time
Muslims must obey the rules of the land
Just have me present in your next ritual, wanna experience your powers 
Who knows maybe your 'real love' was just a crush and you turned out to like the person who loves you?
he's not talking about religion
Because I don't feel anything for people. Even to my friends or family. It's like imitation of feelings
That's so haram
Can you elaborate
shush kurd
Hm since when
This new law is only for shia with 12 imans idk it's something like that
You don’t understand. I do not love anyone. Only do myself
what law
Depends what you mean by understand. Do I not know how you feel or am I unable to think what you feel?
Are you an iraqi
Like if you are shia this law works on u but if you are sunni or Christian or kurd it's not for you
God forbid
Jafari law
I'm gonna make a region in your country soon
Which manhwa
Jordan was promised to kurds 2000 years ago
Woahh how biased. Are shia in power in Iraq? Why Iraq make laws in favour of shia only
yahudi arab
Well, you don't need to understand. I don't blame you for that. Just a fact.
Yes
Nobody can really tell how others feel but we can classify feelings and behaviors
And Kirkuk promised blessed arab
Oh man! Hope my next guess won't rub you in wrong way either lol are you turkish? 
God forbid
Nah he is arab even worse
Are you a femboy
And arab sunni double worse
are you
Tsk tsk
alhamdulillah❤️
Hm ||nah||
It’s my favorite one. “Solitary Lady”
you seem like one
oh I see
So iran, Iraq and lebanon(hezbollah) are majorly shia ruled.
Pakistan has huge proportion of shia as well ig
Hilis is the best woman for me so far
Never read this one

yeah that's why they're all corrupted
My recommendation so
My favorite one got cancelled
Just like you
Im not a femboy
That explains
ok ashura
Right now I'm reading rebirth 69-michi@sharp crater
Dude you could have told me your country of origin lol instead of spamming astagfirullah lol
Why do you have a girly pfp though :/
why not
Jordanian femboy
Why do you have pfp of naruto when he was getting fingers of his sensei in his ass?
why are we discussing this now
Do you have a wife
Or are we both chuds
used to
Say ya Hussein 50 times and you get a wife like Georgina
I see
Understandable, bro is closeted? Or just exploring ?
Not sure
Georgina Meloni catching strays for no reason 😭
Ngl that's double chud
Yep it's cool
ok
What happened bro why you lost your wife and started to work in mcdonalds
No i meant Ronaldo gf
she turned out to be lesbian
Did that hurt you bro?
ah yes im heartbroken alpha male
Nice choice!
I'm so sorry to hear that
Introduce us :3
That's the expression of uncertainty, unexpected reaction from a sensei Naruto would never have imagined and eventually things got fucked up.
I liked that expression, I recently realised it's actually from that scene 😂😂
I may change soon or now
she's dead
yes
I had a wife too but when I took my pills she disappears. Then I stopped taking the pills, basically doctors put me on a trial where they injected a drug in my brain and I no longer can find her now.
both died
why not introduce you to agent 24

I see I see, naruto probably enjoyed that tbh that's a face of not denying but still surprised.
Unfair…..
Ayo! You are conjured to latinas spell I see 
Dude wtf is up with your head 😭
a great guy
That's a teenage mutatant ninja turtle but with a twist of being ||gae||
They into sausage fests and 9 years old in Iraq. Not my fault
I'm joking bro
we all know you're a dude btw💔
Only pretty women, please…..
But my head is a bad place
Uh, I wish
I won't comment on that
now i have to take care of 325187 children alone
, but it was shia sheikh who said that
My second personality disagrees….
schizo
How so?
What's your Opinion on 9 year old eligible for marriage rule by law 👀
Guys do you want to see something non nsfw but disgusting
You’re cool

wanna see something disgusting
I take it as yes
Sure
Not my country not my problem but i can rage bait someone with this law 
Wot the wottttt! Dude you got clip ? 😂
looks like some demonic ritual
Just search قال یاحسین ٥٠ you will see it
._.
No animals
It's an animal
To be exact a frog
A frog which takes eggs in it's back
You got kids ? Don't tell me this is your daughter's account, if so than the pfp make sense
Frogs are nice
And they hatch through the skin and look disgusting
no thats my account
Are you sure?
im autistic
You didn't have to tell bro
What are you talking about, dude…?
.-.
I guess I will just show you
It’s ok. Don’t worry
I am not sure, language barrier geez
You're yet to see muharram where they self punish their bodies sometimes till the blood oozes out
Not really
Oh i learnt about that from, that's a mama frog keeping her babies safe
It's just a mother caring for her kids
It's 20 times not 50
I wonder how the back will feel to touch
Wait
Yeah
i know bro @fresh flower into this shit
Not appropriate for someone having trypophobia though lol
I ain't surprised
Those are frogs baby frogs which have hatched in her back
He said something about bombing
Oh I see. I’ve never here it
Dude you literally send it love you 😂
Time to chant
DND
First one is Ai
Last one is a Yemeni mockery show
Haven't you gotten tired of your lies?
White skin hotties vs brown skin hotties who will win
Not everyone got similar taste, you can share such stuff with me :3 nature and cosmo fascinate me
Are you iraqi shia ?
Yes
Wait till you see diseases
Nonsense
Dude is it true that men can marry 9 years old girl in iraq
Yes
No
What diseases we talking here
Yemeni!!
I'm not affected by any disease except one which makes me scared
Is it true - yes
Is it acceptable among the most of us - no
Is it legalized - not fully yet and not for encouraging purposes but for saving the rights for already married cases
Are you shia?
Leave it to a Sunni to lie and slander
Search محمد الاضرعي
What makes it there in the first place? The thought process behind it

Yeah
I remembered him
Misinterpretation and exploitation of religious texts, backward tribal customs
by the way, this isn't our only problem
We also have forced marriage known as "fasliya," where, when a problem arises between two tribes one of the women is given away to resolve the conflict as a sort of gift
This is a purely tribal custom
Slay
Purely in rural tribal areas
They are humble and devout
The problem
I hope thse idiots beat each others Asses
Which religious texts they misinterpret if there's any?
Are people still living in tribes over there? Why aren't they moving on from a tribal mindset?
Redartation
Are social Thinkers suppressed over there ?
No law enforcement = giving space to outlaws to take the space
What is not suppressed in islam
Even if they have it
Nothing will change
Fanaticism
In the one city you'd find a very very fucked up area with the things I've mentioned , and 5 meters away you'd find a fully civilized one
Idk how this happened , are they refusing to get better or it's just built like that
Ig this happens everywhere
Well whenever try to do anything different or challenging the social construct people bring religion into it.
You can see iranian youth getting killed by the supreme leader asking for changes, now the supreme leader and his fella gone, and a hope for change is there but people still have issues with it.
Tbh every religion has a part of people who do not live their strictly following the rules like monks in their teachings. But middle east's powers lacks the decency of enabling such groups .
I see
I haven't seen either of those two qualities
Lies? Maybe if you have eyes you see and not yet maybe after Hassan meme i will get tired of lies
Rain I can hear your accent from your words
Okay vro dats good
Social revolution is needed, social Thinkers needs to be given space and authority.
The issue is social Thinkers can bring reforms or talk about it but in the due process religion and religious people see it as a threat.
I am yet to voice chat with a kurd
Curd
You're just throwing random words atp
Thought you're better than that
Memes memes
Is this how kurds look
Gay memes
Called shias gay Disrespectful 😔
saddam hussein is coming
Imagine shi arse
Under the ground 😔
Dude, why would you take pride in a hitler like figure
That’s only direct, when you include indirect (got cancer but hospital is gone and such) it’s in the millions
What happened here, why are Kurds celebrating the death of Iraqis
They're gone full nazi 💔💔💔
how do would you guys cope with life if you're genetically disadvantaged in every way
Holy shit peak Sanna comeback
@high raven
..
Genetically disadvantaged? Are you just short or what do you mean?
Yeah disadvantaged how
Traots that i have no control over
statistically disadvantaged
Well idk what it is but if there’s no way to minimize it then idk, some people do just get naturally disadvantaged
Get involved in activism if you want to change that ig
ive realized most things i do to distract myself is cope
Nothing you can do about it then, accept yourself instead of telling yourself you're genetically disadvantaged
how i treat myself doesnt change how society treats me
ill forever be met with predjuice and nothing will change that unless i become a millionaire or a high status male
You can’t control how society changes you unless you get involved in politics, you can change how you treat yourself
“High status male” 💀
people judge you based off of apperance the most not politics
if anything ill get judged more by people who disagree with my political views
and ill feel even more isolated
Right, but politics includes the power to change things. If you have a medical condition you could get more funding for treating it or try and get better accommodation for it
Whatever that means
i dont have any medical condition
Are you just thinking you’re ugly then?
No one is going to cater to you
youtubers, comedians, leaders etc
well everyone gets treated based off of how they look
It’s quite subjective, of course if most people find you unattractive it’s a disadvantage but there will always be some.
Also you can attempt to make up for it in competence
but they would treat me better if i was at a genetical advantage
Accept being fugly bro, it's first step
After that you can do looksmaxxing and all that gay stuff
im average below average iq i dont have any academic capabilities like the average person
Who lied to you
Those "looksmaxxers" are gayest people I know
Think of it this way: Donald Trump is able to talk about planes during the revolutionary war, and he’s the most powerful guy in the world. He’s also old af
i can be financially stable but thats like the only thing i have control over
I don't think you'll ever accept yourself if you keep basing your value on others view of it
Also not being confident is unbearable
You're in a rabbit hole
it might make life 20% easier
how other view me is usually what my life will turn out to be
Ikr, can’t wait to tell everyone to be confident and then going back to being insecure
enviroment is what molds you
into the person you are
Yeah ngl the “high value male” thing makes me think you’re looking at some social media shit which tries to degrade you for view time
Yes, you also have a conscious choice to try and take steps to change your environment or change how you react to your environment
weird consdering the amount of times ive seen males get treated shit based off of appereance
It's different to be realistic and downright mood killer. When I say I look like average person it's truth, I don't brag about anything but I don't try to look miserable either.
Everyone saw Frodo Baggins as just a hobbit of the Shire but he turned out to be one of the most significant persons the Middle-Earth had ever seen
Fair enough, I don’t want to get in my statistics cause those are way worse than being ugly 💀
its fiction
Who's gonna blow up
Is this only on social media or?
Tel Aviv please
BE CONFIDENT SMH
It's a metaphor, Frodo Baggins yourself, it starts from within
statistics
I rather somewhere else
Where
Nah
😭😭😭
If you're average looking person it's enough
You don't need to be model
What
no amount of self improvment junk of a mindset will change the things i have no control over
I think you’re overestimating appearance considerably, and using it as a singular model to interpret the world, I think it’s overly simplistic
If you're treated worse it's either bcs you look borderline homeless and can't withold basic hygiene or your personality sucks
Also cultural differences
Here people couldn't care less
None of it will matter once you have to start paying your own rent
You are surrounded by the average who are able to function within society, those who are positive outliers have never been the norm and it will never become the realistic expectation
will paying my rent make society treat me better
Average people have reproduced for the entirety of human history, otherwise assuming genealogy is so simple, we would not exist either
Also beauty is subjective
i dont care about being average because im literally at the bottom of the barrel
Guess the place
Society treats you by your contributions, some tiny amount of people will be remembered. Most will not
I don't mean this in a mean way but I don't think anyone is thinking about you, everyone is living their own life as much as you, you're putting too much weight into if others will accept you or not, when you're just a passerby in their life
I could be ugliest person to some and to some best looking person
What do you find beautiful
I think beauty is partially evolutionary selection, partially filtered through personal, cultural, and status markers
Erbil
What is the source of this claim?
Even if you are just a "passerby," people make split-second judgments the moment they see you.
Subjective experiences of rejection? These are contingencies
i think there was a study stating how it takes about seven seconds for someone to form an opinion on your trustworthiness, status, and competence
In arab areas hell yeah you are giving me 1991 vibe
They can reflect general emotional state, learned behaviors, accidental outcomes, that has little to do with anything permanent or definitive
Why does this matter to you
Studies are not authoritative by themselves, they are part of an ongoing process of discourse and refutation. Stop accepting theses based on singular studies
Learn to disprove theses with other information, that would be the true scientific spirit
As a man it's gay of you to worry this much about if others think you look good or not
No need to appeal to general cultural truisms if your concern is “scientific”, it is demonstrably easy to disprove reductive interpretations generally speaking
You using too many big words bro
And why not
multiple, independent sources (evolutionary biology, labor statistics, dating app data, and historical records) all point to the exact same conclusion
I like to read
Valuing yourself by what another man/woman thinks is wrong
Did you read these studies? Or did you just get a narrative in social media that the influencer “read” the studies? This isn’t real scholarship
i can show you
Where is the study that you are “bottom of the barrel”?
Movie 📸
What characteristic are you appealing to?
i have the studies ccpy pasted lol
Here:
Physical Attractiveness (Looks):
Walster et al. (1966, Journal of Personality and Social Psychology): A randomized experiment revealed that physical attractiveness was the primary predictor of date liking and follow-up interest.
Feingold (1990, Journal of Personality and Social Psychology): Meta-analysis across paradigms confirmed strong effects of attractiveness on romantic attraction.
Hitsch et al. (2010, American Economic Review): Online dating data analysis showed attractive individuals receive substantially more contacts.
Witmer et al. (2025, Computers in Human Behavior Reports): Conjoint analysis indicated looks dominate over other traits in swiping decisions.
Height:
Pierce (1996, Social Behavior and Personality): Meta-analysis supported the male-taller preference norm.
Stulp et al. (2013, PLOS ONE): Examination of UK couples confirmed height preferences manifest in actual pairings.
Yancey & Emerson (2016, Journal of Family Issues): Surveys highlighted greater female emphasis on partner height.
Nah bro has lost it 💔💔💔
😭😭😭😭
Reading studies to reaffirm to yourself that you're ugly is wild
I don’t deny appearance is a factor, but you seem to be saying you’re bottom of the barrel. Based on what?
On Imam Hussain this guy is lost
"I don't need a 'singular study' to see the Aggregate Results of my daily life.
And a factor doesn’t mean it is a binary determination, only statistically probable in certain circumstances
people deny our experience so we need to prove it somehow
You are saying there is no scientific evidence to back up your claim that you are uniquely maligned. Which is to say there is none
"Our" 💔💔💔💔💔💔
Why focus on something that is very subjective anyways? Some people find skinny guys attractive, some prefer obese
These studies state that appearance is a factor to some extent, not that you are doomed to die alone in some ditch or whatever fear the mind conjures up
You can read these studies and conclude completely differently to this person saying they’re cursed or something
He’s using studies that discuss appearance bias, to then say that his unexamined anecdotal evidence fits completely into this model, which he has exaggerated to explain all of reality
It is rather absurd
J how old are you
If a "factor" makes your life worse every single day, it’s not a "choice" but a broken system.
Also we're average people, no-one cares about us
How do you know every single negative experience you have is due to appearance bias?
Not like you'd model anyways
Calling it "absurd" is a way to avoid looking at the Brutal Truth. You don't have to be dommed for the game to be rigged
Appearance bias can be researched.
Your life, your experience, is dependent on your interpretation, and is not subject to any scientific process
It's not a truth lol, you're gaslighting yourself into low confidence
I can just see the data as irrelevant, it is useless to corroborate anything. No scientist would accept it.
The only truth is the words of Allah SWT in the Holy Quran
Chat how much did it take you to reach the point when u can speak in english with others, ive been learning 5 month and i still cant, dispite i was watching movies in english every single day and even trying to repeat
Life is a rigged game even without appearance bias, why do you focus on appearance bias and not like money or power or geography?
You have an emotional fixation on the idea itself more than other factors, would that not introduce bias?
You'll learn when speaking with others
How are you sure your thought process is reasoned and free of error?
because i have control over those things to some extent
You have control over your appearance, it’s not just the face.
You have control “to some extent”
no i dont
Which is the same for other factors, “to some extent”
im born with this face and body only and ill live with this my entire life
Dress, exercise, hair and skin care, of course you do
Appearance, being a broader category of visual presentation
Not me personally but it takes a year or two for basic conversational fluency in English for beginners, 3-4 years for advanced proficiency. You're doing well in your own pace, don't compare
And even surgery, though for someone like this I’d hardly ever recommend anything
so you do agree appereance matters
I know it matters, I just disagree the extent to which you elevate it as the greatest factor, or conclude defeat largely through anecdotal and unverifiable experiences
It is sloppy and filled with clumsy reasoning, and seems heavily biased by social media misery algorithms
Taking care of yourself is enough to make you look good
i showed you the studies didnt i
they are credible enough
Your claim is you are ugly specifically, not just that appearance bias exists
yeah, its really hard to not compare 😞
You substantiate appearance bias with the studies, but the latter claim, which is probably the most important, you have no scientific evidence
I am not "guessing" that my life fits the model. I am observing that my life is the result of the model.
You just say “I know from personal experience”, the point of scientific studies is understanding that human subjective experience is highly biased and highly unreliable, there is no reason you should trust the most reductive conditioned interpretations
I would say observation cannot be done without bias, especially when scientific rigor is not exercised, and no study is done
You're doing well if you started off as a complete beginner. Just keep at it, it's just consistency
Dismissing a consistent life pattern as "subjective bias"especially when it perfectly matches massive amounts of Appearance Bias data is just ignoring the brutal truth
hi serious people
I challenge the quality and salience of your observation, I think the data is garbage, and it cannot be verified
u are right, it might not be surprising that i cant speak if i didnt before 🤦♂️ maybe i finaly should go to guider
What consistent pattern? You could just be explaining something through appearance what could be credited to something else
serious people don't respond to chill guys😔
What if your life was consistently maligned by having a lack of money? What if it’s a political system? But you’ve not considered other hypotheses, you’ve simply stuck with the most easily conceivable ones
This credulity, is what allows me to dismiss the concerns on grounds of plausibility
they are meta-analyses of millions of data points from the world's top journals. The fact that the results haven't changed since 1966 proves we are looking at biological hardware.
Again, those studies were about appearance bias. Not YOUR life, not YOUR interpretations of your life. There is no study for YOU, you are just accepting the first theory that comes your way
thanks for support, i will, i cant stop in the middle of the road, or just on the road, without middle
You cite your observations, but your observations are riddled with bias, so what good is it?
Can anyone else back up your claims? Does even a single person differ? If so, how could you substantiate this theory?
Let’s say you were unaware of being autistic, maybe one could have the same experiences you had, looked completely fine, and concluded that it was due to appearance and not their autism
Or unaware of being financially struggling, etc.
You see how various other alternative lenses can still be used? But you fixate on the one about appearance?
You could list studies for all those other hypotheses also
ive been treated this way before i even turned into a adult and when money comes into play
Again, this is anecdotal unfortunately, it will feel emotionally invalidating, but science isn’t about validation. It’s about isolating relevant factors
Only after you’ve ruled out all other possibilities, can you definitely say that it is what you describe. And that is a very long process
So you’re saying every experience I’ve lived through is immediately invalidated, because its anecdotal? Even the actual studies I provided? You’re ignoring concrete evidence to push a theory that's more comfortable for you
It is easier to say, that the thought process is errant, the social media algorithm is designed for immiseration, and you are not uniquely maligned, not a statistical outlier, simply another normally insecure teenager, and no special framework is needed
Yes, subjective human experience is anecdotal, and can scientifically be completely dismissed. That is what anecdotal means, unless it can be subjected to research methodology and peer reviewed. It means nothing
We have actual studies showing that height and looks directly correlate with salary, legal outcomes, and social authority
What study about you being ugly?
Anecdotes are the primary observations that lead to hypotheses.
I’m not asking for studies about looks mattering, you’ve provided them. I’m asking for the study that your subjective experience fits the theory
Hypotheses are disproven if they rely on shoddy information
If it stays at the level of anecdote it is irrelevant
This process of denying and postulating alternative hypotheses, is closer to a scientific model
Claiming my experience is 'irrelevant' just because it hasn't been individually peer reviewed is like saying an apple falling doesn't prove gravity until you write a thesis on that specific apple.
That is not scientific, that is an emotional attachment to psychological constructions
An apple falling is infinitely more simple than the way people talk to themselves or think about the world
And in fact quantum physics would seem to indicate that motions are far more complex than what seems observable at a glance
Same went for the atoms, what did people before this discovery think? Completely inaccurate theories that made sense at the time
Heliocentric model before Galileo, same thing
People bullshit themselves all the time
this is irrelevent to the topic in hand
If you allowed your need for psychological coherence to drop, allowing ambiguity as you try to refine your explanation, you may obtain a feeling of loss, but you will be able to open yourself up to more potential discoveries
I don’t think so, I think it’s completely relevant
You demonstrate studies that appearance bias exists, you then generalize and apply this to your life, you haven’t tried to disprove it with other explanations. Now you rely on this crutch as a way to absolve yourself of any moral responsibility to interact with the world, because you are truly “helpless”. The weakness of this sort of viewpoint is unimaginable
You would give up agency simply in order to control the world through a sad self pitying story of victimization, it is irresponsible
no amount of self discovery and self improvement bs will change the cards ive been dealt with
That is circular logic, for something you’ve not proven
Do you want people to tell you no? So that you can feel the satisfaction of saying “Yes, I do know, and I know what they don’t.” What is the point of this?
I possess the specific physical traits that these studies identify as targets for bias.
What are they then?
i dont want to say because its personal
but looks is one of them
Well then only a limited discussion can take place, let’s say it is a trait with a negative bias, then yes, nothing you can do about it. Are you doomed to die in obscurity? No? But life is rigged? Yes.
But since you never defined it, it might also be completely false
Knowing that are you going to give up or something?
That would certainly make a trait that would just be hypothetically negative to a fatal one. I don’t know why you would do that.
Everyone must survive in their way in this world, there is no pity or enduring sympathy for the loser
If society treats me as inferior based on a 'negative trait,' then I have zero moral obligation to respect that society or its values.
Society doesn’t survive only through “respect” by individuals. It survives through capture of institutions, employment, banking, violence, etc.
Simply doing this mistrust to an abstraction would not necessarily affect things in any meaningful way
And if violence does occur, then enforcement is swift and long lasting
If you want to have agency you’d have to do it yourself by taking it
You're part of society.
Play your part making it beautiful that you missed*
Hello everyone
Having a job and money is great for survival, but it doesn't fix the social death of being maligned by the people
you’re ignoring the fact that humans are social creatures
Nobody’s maligning you, I think people simply do not care about anyone else in an urbanized environment. It is dense, and leads to social disintegration and atomism
The world was never built for the comfort of human beings, humans had to carve out everything by force. I don’t see comfort as a need, it can dilute and weaken the soul
We didn’t 'carve out the world with individual force but but with social capital
we’re a pack species
Some people find belonging in some community or another, it may be essential then
I have my own general communities, my own values to give me coherence in the world, so that I don’t drift in some ambiguous rot
can i ask how tall you are
Nah, you didn’t give me your physical characteristics either
height predjuice is less prevelant in japan if im correct
Asians are shorter
i live in a predominantly tall country where theres a lot of stigmatization around it
I mean yeah there will be bias then
I’m not someone who believes vibes can overcome all inequalities and all differences between individuals
You have to impose what meaning you can on it if you want it to have structure maybe, but there will always be bias
Sometimes biases are useful, you can play on it to control expectations, this can be important
i am not short lol
As a population average it is more statistically likely
Individually outliers exist and do not disprove the norm
yall speaking professional english out of my mind
It might just be me, I speak like this
I’ve decided the academic route for a better career. Is really the only move to make life atleast a little bearable
That’s good, Academia will have its own politics disguised in citations and references and all this, but yeah
I want to eat
well it was good talking to you
Yeah, I enjoyed fleshing out the thoughts
Is Bibi dead yet
Busy givin backshot to trump and some specific members here iykwim
Evil never dies
Sorry israel he didn't mean it
Hi
What up
gen chat is epic rn
Found this on reddit
Ngl bro is a good person
i hate having a job
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im not even ellgible for the upcoming annual holiday bonus cause i havent worked here in a year
Well then ye screwed?
what
Aint no way
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he needs some therapy
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He died like a dog
who
@shy summit HA
I TOLD YA AMERICAN NATIONAL INTEREST
EVEN DEMOCRATS SUPPORT IT
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Ayatollah
Hm
What is bro praying for Columbia and Italy for
You can tell he's neither Greek not Turkish
I'd be extremely surprised if he were either
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Good morning, imposter
That's a autocorrect
United states of turkiye

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Damn it these suicide drones, Ai is literally taking over everyone's job
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👀 you support iran
@prisma cipher oh, you are still here
@feral river https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN-aTVkI5W0
Marine Brian McGinnis was dragged out of a congressional hearing on the war, shouting as Capitol Hill police pulled him from the room, "No one wants to fight for Israel."
Footage showed McGinnis in his Marine uniform being lifted off his feet and carried out of the room by Capitol police officers, as well as by Sen. Tim Sheehy, R-Montana. Multi...
freedom of speech
bro got kicked out
Yeah, saw this video yesterday. What a hero
God bless America ✨
His bone fracturing made me flinch
It was such a loud snap
Yeah yeah, unfortunately
I hope so
Iran will destroy the middle east in this war
They have every right for self defense
Yeah 
@feral river https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uBbiQvgYZj4
YES!!!!
good good, keep fighting
@woven quail are you going to fight them
just fight, to fight for your nation, to fight for your peace, to fight for your interest, to fight ,let this world know, even tho iran has no military strength, at least to show that they are not pathetic
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just fucking destory those puppet states in whole middle east
iran i fucking support yall
Nobody should allow that to happen in America
many people say china has less free speech, and let those westerners see this video
where is fucking free speech
🥀 she's here forever
Who
Iykyk
yes bomb it and destroy it
I hope iran wont shoot missiles
Towards georgia
Well recent situation with azerbaijan concers me
You're the better chinese person
Good afternoon, mortals
so should i invest in it
Hi
Hi
Dude he's hitting on your pfp
Good goy
How many backshots Netanyahu had given you today
I'm literally seeing this around me so intensely. Why are men suddenly obsessed with khamenei
Even sunni men, which is really surprising
They're loving him for being anti Zionist chad
I recently saw an edit that compared khamenei to the lone penguin, do you know about the whole penguin fiasco? It was a big thing in my country
It's about a penguin going to the mountains
Knowing it's going to die
Yes, the Penguin was one man army, he went to the unconventional route
Like Khameni
Yes. That's the appeal with khamenei also, the way he went against an economy and military giant like US
True
See I have the emoji for the center of Iranian flag
I have such a boomer collection of emojis 😭
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Ya hussain hum nahi the 
couldnt miss it
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Thanks comerade
They don’t support it, they’re forced to say they support it. God you don’t know how this works.
You're welcome
you're why Mohammed said women need to pair up to be reliable witnesses
They all don't understand
Stop doing blasphemy,I know you will run like you did previously
Gandu human
you're the one accepting heram
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"Your globe"
We live on earth only 
yeah it's not a globe
Okay boomer
so YOU have a belief
100% Iran support. No doubt. they are homies, us/ Israel beaches
Israel bitch?
U never saw Kurdish fighters 
100%
Btw not south Kurdistan the Kurdish irani parties and forces
alright bet
They're still protesting and mourning for khamenei this is crazy
And not only Kurdish brother there’s a lot of other nations
Idk it’s seems they worshipped him
Russian in 2022 move to Israel, because like they say, they run from country that fighting with their neighbors. Now I laugh non stop.
It not about who will win it about who I support. I support Iran, also I think it will be miracle if they going out of it successful.
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Iran or Israel, Russia or Ukrainian?

I see
You support Turkey because patriot 
but i have a question,
do westerns often see china has less free speech when it comes to politics? @prisma cipher
Mmm not everytimee
Double it and give it to the next person
is it actually true they thought it
Shia muslims scare me
I'm not western, maybe for China I'm western tho hmm
Also khamenei visited my country and state b4 he became Supreme leader
Is that a flex
you mean russia is not part of Europe?
They literally cut off internet because the protest were getting so bad
I have my exams going on, I was not even able to study properly
Because they kept cutting our fucking internet
The West is a direction. For us, Western countries are Europe and America, and for you, apparently, Russia too. I didn't understand that right away.
what are you talking about?
Russia is in Eurasia so technically russia is also in europe
Europe is considered part of "The West" geographically
Tell it European beaches, who put 3 milliard sanctions on us, we different.
Not exactly
You must've not heard of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_plate
The Eurasian plate is a tectonic plate that includes most of Eurasia (a landmass consisting of the traditional continents of Asia and Europe), with the notable exceptions of the Arabian Peninsula, the Indian subcontinent, and the area east of the Chersky Range in eastern Siberia. It also includes oceanic crust extending westward to the Mid-Atlan...
meanwhile The US and Canada are considered core "Western" nations because they were settled by Europeans and share European political

Russia is in the Eurasian region, but not a part of the European Union
I think when Asians use west we think of all the Europe, america, australia and new Zealand
America specifically US and Canada
in Russia, people have white skin, and girls have blue eyes, it is simply westerners
I think free speech is bulshiet value. I literally don't care if you have 0 free speech or 100% free speech. What I care if people living good or bad.
Free speech is part of the good life
yeah free speech actually is bullshit

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