🧠｜serious-chat

[toxic lake]

You did.

[wet flax]

i know, it just doesnt mean that

not bc you have a partner that means you have sex with her/him idk

tf is these mindset, mormons are better istg

[cerulean pivot]

You've literally said that before

[wet flax]

BRO

IM SAYING NOT BC YOU ARE LESBIAN THAT MEANS YOU HAVE SEX

[uncut tiger]

so you having a gf is okay as long as you dont have seggs?

[wet flax]

omfg maybe i understand why olivander is top 3 logical person

[fallow shard]

Exactly

[toxic lake]

Man, bar is that low...

[wet flax]

basically.

[deep zephyr]

Since when

[wet flax]

he call himself that

and tbh maybe i believe him now

[deep zephyr]

Because he's narcissistic

[shell hemlock]

She’s in a different religion that’s why we can’t understand fr

Cuz we can’t even date the opposite gender, so no need to even think about same gender

[wet flax]

i just encourage y'all to read the church fathers and orthodox dogmas/doctrines, if you want to learn christianity.

[uncut tiger]

the scripture ollie sent says its a bad thing im confused

[toxic lake]

homosexuality is discouraged because story of Lots, right?

[shell hemlock]

You will get whipped

[shell hemlock]

In her religion ?

[wet flax]

Orthodox Church condemns gay sex and gay marriage, it doesnt condemns being nor loving

[toxic lake]

no in Muslim

[shell hemlock]

In Indonesia and Malaysia you will get whipped in public

[wet flax]

my personal interpretation is from the church, so.

[sick bronze]

[shell hemlock]

I don’t know the full story but I can only understand that we encourage multiplying so if you are gay or you are homosexual then chances are you cannot repopulate

[wet flax]

i heard he didnt, though im not catholic

so i dont have a pope

im against papacy

[deep zephyr]

Wait till authorities find out about the people who wants to fuck' both gender at the same time

[wet flax]

NO NO NO

[shy summit]

You can have kids even if you are gay.

[shell hemlock]

That’s why even different religion marriage relationships we don’t encourage it

[wet flax]

CATHOLIC SAYS THE POPE IS THE CHIEF OF CHRISTIANS, THE CHOSEN OF JESUS😭😭 NOT THE GOD

[shy summit]

There are ways of having kids even if you are gay.?

[wet flax]

and it is also only for catholicism, not orthodoxy

[sick bronze]

God is good

[wet flax]

biologically nah

[toxic lake]

child tube here we come

[shy summit]

Ruth, they made a sperm cell using two eggs.

[shell hemlock]

Muslims are mainly traditional we just think of you guys gay how you gonna make babies cuz the sword fight clashing each other, even in our Buddhist country most people think like this

[wet flax]

papacy isnt biblical nor accepted by the church fathers

[woven quail]

now I wish I could live in North Korea

[thorny steeple]

This discussion never gets to anywhere other than live and let live.

[shell hemlock]

Imagine this in Saudi

[toxic lake]

That's how life works 🤷‍♂️

[wet flax]

only for catholics

not for us

[thorny steeple]

Because it always end, 'it says' with a bad earlyman logic behind it.

[toxic lake]

Changing someone mind requires more time and effort than discord can provide.

[wet flax]

no

church fathers are theologian

pope isnt forcelly a theologian

[shy summit]

Why

[thorny steeple]

You don't have to change peoples mind to change society

[wet flax]

yeah

[thorny steeple]

My teacher always asked what does the world has more ? Good or bad people? What will you say?@toxic lake

[wet flax]

for exemple

The divine is therefore infinite and incomprehensible; and this alone is comprehensible about Him—His infinity and incomprehensibility. Whatever we say affirmatively (καταφατικῶς) about God, we do not indicate His essence itself, but only things concerning His essence (τὰ περὶ τὴν φύσιν). Even if we say He is good, just, wise, or anything else, we do not speak of God’s essence, but about things pertaining to His essence (τὰ περὶ τὴν φύσιν). There are also some things spoken affirmatively about God which have the force of exceeding decision (δύναμιν ὑπεροχικῆς ἀποφάσεως); for example, when we say darkness (σκότος) about God, we do not mean darkness as we know it, but rather that there is no light (οὐκ ἔστι φῶς), yet it is beyond light (ὑπὲρ τὸ φῶς); and when we say light (φῶς), it is to indicate that darkness is not (οὐκ ἔστι σκότος).

St. John of Damascus, Book I - Expositio Fide Orthodoxa, Ch. 4 - [PG 94:800B-C]

[shell hemlock]

I honestly don’t like the idea of changing someone’s mind rather we should tolerate and adapt them learn as we go on why we disagree or why we’re different

[toxic lake]

You need to gather enough people to make a change.
But yes, you can also recruit like-minded people to achieve that goal.

[shell hemlock]

Some people think the idea of harmony is that everyone is the same but I don’t think so

[toxic lake]

Really? @shy summit Is that true?

[shy summit]

Ye

[toxic lake]

OMG

[woven quail]

No Turkish no Jew no American no European no Arab chill life out of every problems

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1212743861017907280.gif

[shy summit]

That’s kinda racist

[woven quail]

That’s not racism

[shy summit]

We already have immigration control

[shy summit]

[shell hemlock]

USA don’t need ICE

They already have Trump and their own citizens

[toxic lake]

I believe that there will always be good people.
But I don't know which is more.

[shell hemlock]

[shy summit]

Tens of millions? Tell me, what’s included in that number.

There’s no more than maybe 5

5mil

[shell hemlock]

Ehhhhhh

[shy summit]

Based on what. What categories are you including

Which includes?

Not what I was asking. What TYPES of illegal immigration

[gloomy frost]

We? Why would I want heaven?

[shy summit]

Then name some

[shell hemlock]

The idea of having law enforcement that can detain you for your skin color is so dystopian, whatever’s going on in America

[wet flax]

why u relate on something that was for christians

[thorny steeple]

Yeah logically if you want to make the world work you need more good people that's the answer. But in my opinion bad people are majority but are forced to do good deeds that align with society unless they will not be accepted and will prove the minority.

[shy summit]

There’s different types, clearly you’re informed on the matter. You should know this.

[woven quail]

That’s the truth so

[shy summit]

The different types matter.

[gloomy frost]

every christian is a sinner?

You said "we"

[wet flax]

yeah?

[gloomy frost]

Some might refute your claim but sure.

[wet flax]

LMFAO NOT AT ALL

IT IS LITERALLY THE UNIVERSAL DOCTRINE IN ALL CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION 😭😭😭

[shy summit]

Not the Criteria. The different TYPES of illegal immigration.

[gloomy frost]

I can imagine people refusing your claim even if it is universal.

[wet flax]

The Orthodox Catechism explains: "In the first man, all sinned because all were in him alone. The possibility of such a sin being committed by all people in one man is explained from a natural standpoint by the fact that all people—both in body and soul—are descended from a single couple. Adam, as it were, carried humanity within himself in an embryo, in a seed. And just as he, so too, each of his descendants begot a son in his own likeness and image ( Gen. 5:3 ). From a legal standpoint (law, justice), the possibility of the transmission of sin from one man to all his descendants is explained by the fact that Adam was the representative of all people, in whose person God concluded His covenant with the entire human race."

Archim. Lazar Abashidze, The Sin of Adam, "How, in what way do we inherit Adam's guilt and what kind of guilt is this?" - (Moscow: St. Ignatius of Stavropol Publishing House, 2001.)

[thorny steeple]

Depends dude like are their gorgeous nymphs there? ima want to go heaven🤓

[shy summit]

Oh my god you don’t know do you. Entering the country without documentation isn’t a criminal offense.

[wet flax]

no, you cant deny that you are a sinner, it is also against Jesus

[shy summit]

It’s a civil violation

Not a criminal one

[gloomy frost]

heaven is just boring.

[shell hemlock]

Do you live in America

[thorny steeple]

Jesus is sus

[wet flax]

ok

[thorny steeple]

He never said that

[wet flax]

?

[shy summit]

It’s the same level of ‘crime’ as crossing the street improperly or being too loud at night.

[wet flax]

nobody is sinless except him, he died for that.

[gloomy frost]

I never said I did, I can obviously imagine someone people denying, Not that they are correct just denying.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gesù-gesu-gesu-griffin-gesùgriffin-griffin-gif-19912789

[shy summit]

No it’s a civil violation

[wet flax]

no christian would deny, it is where youre wrong tho

[gloomy frost]

you do realise "sin" is a human made concept.

[wet flax]

ok lol

nihilist talking btw

[gloomy frost]

I can obviously imagine someone doing that.

[shy summit]

Jesus christ, you don’t actually know how many LPRs there are a year do you.

[gloomy frost]

You still haven't provided evidence that I am a nihilist.

[shy summit]

675,000

[thorny steeple]

'no christian'

[thorny steeple]

We both are sexy guys trapped among hippies

[wet flax]

i said your way of thinking & talking

[shy summit]

I’m gonna ask a simple question.

Asylum seekers. Illegal or legal immigration

[wet flax]

it is nihilistic

[gloomy frost]

Based on which reasoning? For you to make a claim about my philosophy you'd need extensive knowledge in such domain.

[shy summit]

So it’s legal

Nah, not the criteria

How

That is determined at their final hearing

[wet flax]

youre always saying nothing has a sense, always saying dumb thing, it is close to nihilism

[shy summit]

Most numbers? What numbers do you refer to

What numbers

Pew studies are reliable, you should be able to pull this up no problem

[weary vessel]

Hi every one i want to practice my English with people who is working
Or the Same my age.

[shy summit]

Because I can almost garuntee you that it said ‘undocumented’

His department claims over 100mil

[gloomy frost]

Is that so? Do you have any evidence of that? And why do you think they are dumb? Was me telling you that you being totally dependent on your gf dumb?

[shy summit]

In total, which is a flat out lie

The only way you can get over 100mil is if you include all immigrants and their children.

so it’s a fucking lie

Crossings don’t equal residing

That has to be determined by a court

THAT INCLUDES TOURISTS

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

So not you?

Are you a judge?

No

BORDER CROSSINGS INCLUDES ANYONE WHO CROSSES THE BORDER, LEGALLY OR NOT

Are we being deadass or just trolling

Because it’s a fucking lie

They argue over 100million residing in the US

Then cite the wrong data

…

Are you fucking serious?

They are by definition the final arbiters of the law

Nah wtf

Only if you’re including their citizen children

Perhaps maybe stop lying to justify violence against the public, and we wouldn’t have the moral obligation to shame and humiliate liars and disingenuous parties back into their conspiracy holes

[thorny steeple]

Dude why do you read the whole chat lmao

[shy summit]

Treat nazis like it’s 1942

Incorrect

They were right wing authoritarian ethnocentric nationalists

Buddy what was your degree in again?

Just cause a dipshit labels something as socialism does not make it so.

That explains so much

[thorny steeple]

What about you

[shy summit]

I actually have a degree in Political Science

[thorny steeple]

...

I don't want to sound rude

I see I see

[shy summit]

Using a label is different than employing the same rhetoric and tactics

I could call racism “Americans first” that doesn’t change what it is

[crystal kayak]

Is there a whole class on how to be corrupt and manipulate people or is that politics just attracts bad people

[thorny steeple]

Probably

[shy summit]

You should have learned how to spot that shit in COMMS

Except how is making housing prices expensive helping the average american?

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Did you have classes on how to kidnap people when they go against you?

[shy summit]

He said explicitly he’s not trying to lower housing prices and wants them to stay high

https://youtu.be/ToJxd3HBviE?si=U6BGge27ejoKT9cK

The majority of young people do not own homes

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/mirai-kuriyama-anime-beyond-the-boundary-gif-19357422

[shy summit]

They will soon be the majority in general

How is he serving the majority

How is federalizing BLUE states’ constitutionally protected rights serving Americans

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/zombie-land-saga-sakura-minamoto-crossing-car-hit-anime-gif-17886153

[shy summit]

You don’t want to know his voter base

[thorny steeple]

Bb b b b b bbbb bbbb b b b bb bbbb bbbb. bb b b b bbbb bb b b b

[shy summit]

Does a rapist represent half of the public?

[shy summit]

Over 3million documents saying he did shit by the victims, under penalty pf perjury

[crystal kayak]

I don't think that is taught but it comes from deep inside you

[shy summit]

I’ll do you one fucking better.

https://sethmoulton.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/EFTA01660679.pdf

[thorny steeple]

So true

[thorny steeple]

🔥

.... I'm so unable to study today

Why is it so hard to change yourself

[shy summit]

Make litttle changes not big ones. So it’s easier

That is testimony under oath. There’s thousands of them in the files.

Victims were kept anonymous for their obvious protection dumbass

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/manhdz-gif-16112354252076911847

This u

[shy summit]

You never give away the name of child SA victims

That’s the fucking law

Because who do you think pays for Dem and Rep campaigns

[thorny steeple]

More like you should never give away any name out unless justice is served

[shy summit]

Also the stink of indicting a former president? One YOU ran against? Inconceivable to these people.

[thorny steeple]

Lgbtq supporters

[shy summit]

Am I? Top donors are mentioned as clients in the files.

Do you know what the muller report found?

[thorny steeple]

Let the old man die in peace

[toxic lake]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-rizz-shrek-hat-tinfoil-hat-tinfoil-gif-3875013234316655688

[shy summit]

One members of trump’s campaign broke the law. Two Russia saw a Trump admin as benneficial to them. Three the only reason we cannot say trump broke the law is that it is against our department’s policy.

Read the report instead of just listening to bumper sticker political slogan terminology

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-girl-i-need-a-monster-monster-drink-i-need-a-monster-right-now-need-a-monster-gif-16762877038712818711

[shy summit]

They could investigate but not say to press charges

He used intermediaries

Which is irrelevant

[neon sierra]

[thorny steeple]

No

[crystal kayak]

Hypothetically,if you are in power and there is one person who is a threat to your rule, wouldn't you take care of him

[shy summit]

Read the fucking report

That’s all I can say at this point

[thorny steeple]

Depends are they a hot goth chick

https://tenor.com/view/monster-girl-i-need-a-monster-monster-drink-i-need-a-monster-right-now-need-a-monster-gif-16762877038712818711

Fake mha fan

[crystal kayak]

No

[thorny steeple]

Fuck the leader then

Fake

[toxic lake]

Put them in torture chamber then

[crystal kayak]

Question what is a goth girl

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/todoroki-bnha-mha-todoroki-loves-revolution-gif-16664744

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/paroro-parorou-yes-and-ariana-jamming-headphones-gif-18278028878926383578

https://tenor.com/view/iida-mha-bnha-my-hero-gif-23567476

[toxic lake]

https://tenor.com/view/vegito-vegito-gansta-vegito-suit-drip-vegito-bait-used-to-be-believable-gif-315651423676567245

[crystal kayak]

Why would you torture them? I am more humane,I will hypothetical end them

Yep it is

[crystal kayak]

Girls who wear black stuff

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gintoki-sakata-cry-crying-gintama-anime-gif-12392354807195374626

[thorny steeple]

Yeah edgy ah needy girls maybe

I don't know the defination

[toxic lake]

I was just joking.
On a serious note, I will jail them or exile them.
Out of sight, out of mind, yk

[hidden lintel]

i disagree with everyone.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/kanade-yoisaki-yoisaki-kanade-gif-15661884164081726968

Guys let's talk about is it wrong to think wrong things about others ?

Like lusty thoughts @gloomy frost gets whenever he sees a pan

Why so

It's not like they are doing anything bad

It's just in the mind

What if someone has thoughts which might be not socially acceptable like solvent but the person themselves are healthy

Hi neo

That's what someone who has lusty thoughts about pan would say ngl

I agree but having such thoughts maybe their way of staying healthy don't you think?

I hope the same for you.

Good point

Like if I think about beating a person whom I hate and I make scenarios about it but never actually do so but these thoughts help me to cope, then I'm good as far as society goes

Sure sure

I see I see

But you can't be sure you know

You know there is an anime about this

Fuck sibbul

[shy summit]

Wut….?

[thorny steeple]

We all love you nale

You are important for server

[shy summit]

Good?

[thorny steeple]

Love the unemplyoment streak of all the homies

[empty plaza]

I am employed :D

[feral river]

now I have to ask this question, is the law above the President or the President above the law ?

[thorny steeple]

I hate you in that case

[shy summit]

Embarrassed because I don’t want to recount a multi-thousand page document you haven’t taken the time to learn about?

[thorny steeple]

Just joking

[shy summit]

The law stands above the president.

The president is subject to the law

[feral river]

what if, the president violate the law

[shy summit]

Then he’s fucked

[empty plaza]

:D

[thorny steeple]

That's what she said

[feral river]

it's a non-removal position without impeachment

[thorny steeple]

Tickle monster hunts you

[empty plaza]

Grounds for charges. Worst case impeachment

[shy summit]

You can’t be president as a felon

[feral river]

and impeachment takes very long process and investigation efforts and it never work

[feral river]

TRUMP IS A FELON BEFORE HE IS THE PRESIDENT

[shy summit]

Only for official acts

If an act falls outside his job description it doesn’t matter

[feral river]

he is a committed felon which you have said, and he really becomes the PTOUS

[shy summit]

Federal or state

Nah it’s simple.

Any overreach would qualify

[feral river]

anyways, Elon Musk did not go to the Epstein island

who knows if he will become the next Republican candidate

[shy summit]

He did

[shy summit]

He can’t he wasn’t born in the us

[thorny steeple]

Bruno mars vs ed shreen?

[feral river]

oh yeah that was in the law I forgot

the next must be JD Vance

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-pigeon-benjammins-bird-bird-doctor-doc-gif-8027616496935101488

[shy summit]

He’s not popular enough

[feral river]

I don't expect a third term on a child abuser and after he did that much chaos all over the freaking US and the world

actually made the economy worse

[shy summit]

The next president will likely be a democrat. First on the list is Gavin Newsom (god help us)

But they do smother a lot

[thorny steeple]

Make me the president you peasants

[shy summit]

How about I make you my wife instead

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-2025-gif-9511347375500535808

[feral river]

but bring some of the national interest and bring the way of development and social ethics, as well as the social order on the right path that deviated the leftism political correctness

[feral river]

THAT GUY IS FUCKED

[shy summit]

You mean social ethics not ethnics

[feral river]

the reason apple input system is suck asf

[shy summit]

Yeah he’s in bed with the tech companies

[thorny steeple]

Ai is making dumb decisions while making humans dumb

[feral river]

no, can't be newson he's a dumb fuck can't manage the social order or invade other country for American interest

[thorny steeple]

Yeah I have seen that 😂

[shy summit]

And 85% of MAGA

[thorny steeple]

Ai is really dumb

[feral river]

that must be some crazy assh that doing a well business with both link to tech companies and military industries that led Americans to redominate the earth again

[thorny steeple]

If you use it in professional stuff

[turbid dome]

100%

[feral river]

newson is a leftist fucking dumb shit

[thorny steeple]

You will know

[turbid dome]

Actually 99%, I’ll give the planners and higher ups credit

[shy summit]

I’m gaging this on the fact that most of MAGA has little media literacy and literally zero media diversity

[feral river]

HE UNDERSTAND FUCKING NOTHING HE'S A COMMIE

omfg American is going to have a communist revolution

what century are we live in

[thorny steeple]

Only thing ai is replacing is only fans

[turbid dome]

It won’t

[feral river]

actually the life of proletariants would be improved if they really had one

[turbid dome]

😂😂😂

[turbid dome]

I mean yes but the issue is that America doesn’t have a real proletariat, they have a gap there. It’s just lumpenprole and labor aristocracy

[feral river]

your dad and mom or your grandpa would remember that day you had Soviet Union as the opponent, and an American president that limits the power of entrepreneurs and capitalists which provide fair welfare and did not impose very much taxes on people

inflation is also quite low asf compared with what we have rn

[turbid dome]

Americans see the short term benefits of exploiting Africa and so are less likely to be anti imperialist

[feral river]

to define a guy whether it was a proletarian or not, is very easy

proletarian does not equal to be poor or broke

[feral river]

CEO could be proletarian as long as he did not hold any means of production

but you see CEO earning a lot of money

but the means of production wasn't controlled by him, he was just the character to represent the interest of the huge capitalists and other ppl that holds actual power

he was just an advanced labor

that does fit the category of being a proletarian

[thorny steeple]

Where do you buy adult magzines guys?

The one with tanks

Bro you are underage

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-6719895885505448058

bruh

💀

Hot chicks rock

....

So much score talks

too tired long week

I don't know how people eat so much egg like

Fried rice sucks in my opinion

They not palatable to me

[turbid dome]

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1051064470.9886/fposter,small,wall_texture,product,750x1000.webp

[turbid dome]

Seriously though I hated math in large part because of this. Questions are unclear.

[thorny steeple]

Instruction unclear I ended up waking up beside my ex

[cerulean pivot]

they say Einstein's dead

[turbid dome]

Sadly

[cerulean pivot]

I did it once
Zero outcome

[turbid dome]

Ngl I never studied 💀

[turbid dome]

Damn had to memorize those

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/okita-gintama-sadist-goat-gintoki-gif-13332238544852879095

[turbid dome]

I just memorized everything the first time. Idk why people need to study to remember things 😭

[cerulean pivot]

How do u even past the memories things part without studying them in the first place

Are we talking about different methods or somthin

[mint parrot]

Is that because of school shooting

[turbid dome]

Hearing it in class from the teacher or doing homework

Nope

[cerulean pivot]

That's considered studying btw

[thorny steeple]

He was making love with his 4 wives

Cope

[turbid dome]

Nope

[mint parrot]

I don't think so

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/didnt-ask-ratio-bozo-clown-lll-gif-25399750

[turbid dome]

I don’t count it as such because it’s required to maintain your grade, I consider studying extra stuff you do

[mint parrot]

I need a jew brain 😔

[cerulean pivot]

Until your teacher is ass

[mint parrot]

Our teachers used to say if u pass or not I'm still getting my salary until their salary fucked up 😭

[cerulean pivot]

Happened

[turbid dome]

I had one that was bad and that sucked, this mfer I got for both algebra 2 and geometry and I would get points taken off for circling my answer because he wanted me to put my answer inside of a rectangle, this fucking guy

He also put me to sleep

[cerulean pivot]

I have multiple bad ones each course

[thorny steeple]

you know what else is amazing? Hot chicks

[cerulean pivot]

Thanks for your service

[final citrus]

Hi

[mint parrot]

When the teacher wants you to fall in his class so bad 😂

[thorny steeple]

Hm?

[turbid dome]

Quite a lot of history and other social studies.

One time I had a surgery in hs and so two weeks later I came back and had an exam that I missed. Despite not having been to school for two weeks I made up the exam in a normal class period and got 98 on multiple choice an 100 on the essay 😭 my issue with school was always attendance

[turbid dome]

Rip

[oak ether]

Can someone explain the usage of some words in the following sentences? I get the meaning behind them but I want to know how the words function, especially the bolded words.

The East will hold. Once across the Colorado, nothing to rival
Hoover Dam remains.

Perhaps it is unfortunate Vulpes was not here to hear your
words ... something tells me you would prove more than his match.
-# And yes these are from New Vegas.

[turbid dome]

He also would say I didn’t show all my step because I did basic multiplication in my head (like I don’t write 9x9 =81 on the page)

[mint parrot]

Was he autism

[turbid dome]

Yeah I guess I suck more at math as it takes me longer, but I can write an essay whenever 😭

[pseudo flume]

Fund me so I can get this

[turbid dome]

He thought he was too good to be a teacher, he had two masters degrees

Math and engineering

Yup 😭

[oak ether]

My dear friend that carpet needs quite a bit of.... funding.

[mint parrot]

Is that a Persian carpet

[thorny steeple]

I suck at life

[oak ether]

You from Iran?

[mint parrot]

Nope

[thorny steeple]

I should off myself fast

https://tenor.com/view/jill-cervel-jill-do-over-damsel-anime-yarinaoshi-gif-4417134368613424768

[pseudo flume]

Yes, it's famous Persian carpet

[turbid dome]

80% 😭😭😭

Mine was probably closer to 60%😭

[pseudo flume]

Y'all should fund me

[mint parrot]

Looks beautiful

[oak ether]

Don't off nothing. If you have enough time to waste on Discord it shows that you're still young and have a life ahead of yourself.

[turbid dome]

Don’t lie, Biji Ayatollah

Mental yeah 😭

[pseudo flume]

This is not Persian, it's affordable

[mint parrot]

Biji nataniaho

[turbid dome]

It would always start with me getting sick or some surgery an then it would be hard to recover mentally

[turbid dome]

No

[turbid dome]

Wait let me show you something

[mint parrot]

Both are affordable

[pseudo flume]

Why mandum is laughing

[turbid dome]

At least school is over 😭

[mint parrot]

Okay

[oak ether]

bro is that type of kurd

[pseudo flume]

Trust me first one was quite expensive

Like I'd rather get a silver brick

[turbid dome]

In some ways ig, in other ways not really

[mint parrot]

Well they are not that expensive

[thorny steeple]

Do you think so?

[cerulean pivot]

Guess we're rich after all

[pseudo flume]

It might be affordable in local Iranian market, or in the region.
They're hella expensive outside the region, sellers ask for your property lowkey

[mint parrot]

I didn't even know you were here lmao you saw his name but not ayatullah name

[oak ether]

nah you're probably a troll rather than an actual depressed person.

[cerulean pivot]

Indians and their techniques

[pseudo flume]

Who's we?

[turbid dome]

Good question 💀😭

[mint parrot]

How much was the first one

[prisma cipher]

Russian

[cerulean pivot]

U can find it everywhere in iraq

[pseudo flume]

1 kg silver brick

[mint parrot]

How much is that in $?

[pseudo flume]

How expensive are they? The original one

[turbid dome]

I know how to forget just not other stuff 😭

[pseudo flume]

Around $3400

[prisma cipher]

No idea. Doubt it cost a lot

[cerulean pivot]

There's no set price idiot
Everyone sell it how he please

[cerulean pivot]

Wtf

Seriously

[mint parrot]

@cerulean pivot should we open a shop in his country?

[cerulean pivot]

I don't need partners

[digital bridge]

Heyy

[mint parrot]

500$ would be enough i guess

[pseudo flume]

Dude in west these shi are sold for 5000-7000

[thorny steeple]

define depression

[cerulean pivot]

My grandma would get it for 300

[mint parrot]

I'm gonna leave uni and open a shop there

[pseudo flume]

Yes, I can get local carpets for $100

The second one was local

[turbid dome]

People in general

[pseudo flume]

It was around 90$

[cerulean pivot]

Fuck college
We are all going to India

[oak ether]

yeah you are 100% a troll

[mint parrot]

I'm gonna ask my grandma to make it

[turbid dome]

English hub colonization of India

[mint parrot]

What about this one

[thorny steeple]

... bro fumbled with just one defination

?def depression

[cursive bobcat]

Word: depression

Definition 1 (noun): a state of depression and anhedonia so severe as to require clinical intervention
Definition 2 (noun): a period during the 1930s when there was a worldwide economic depression and mass unemployment
Definition 3 (noun): an air mass of lower pressure; often brings precipitation

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by logicd.zoro

[pseudo flume]

You son of cleopatra ik, but Persian carpets are high in demand everywhere with limited supply, that's why they ask for ridiculous price

[pseudo flume]

90 dollars

[thorny steeple]

Yo

[cerulean pivot]

White people seek motions

[digital bridge]

Wassup

[mint parrot]

What is the casual carpet in your country

[oak ether]

Also they are really hard to make.

[thorny steeple]

Loose motions?

[turbid dome]

There’s no progressives, it’s Arkansas 😭

[pseudo flume]

50-200 dollars are casual

[oak ether]

Source: I'm Iranian, trust me bro.

[mint parrot]

I meant the looks

[turbid dome]

Maybe lol

[pseudo flume]

Yes, they look good from both sides

[turbid dome]

Might not be a terrible idea actually

[pseudo flume]

Dude everything you can think of, we can mass produce
Even Iranian type carpets

[turbid dome]

I’d probably prefer chess

[mint parrot]

I see

[oak ether]

yeah we call them "farsh mashini" it means carpets produced with machines which are significantly cheaper than their handmade counterparts.

[fallow shard]

[pseudo flume]

@oak ether @cerulean pivot

In USA

[oak ether]

bro did you even read what it says in the website. Those are handmade carpets

[pseudo flume]

Yes, orignal Persian carpets

26k is wild, I can buy entire iraq with 26k

[oak ether]

@pseudo flume btw I had a question. Why is your username "Adonai"? I know what it means but why?

[pseudo flume]

Ezekiel 16:35 CJB

Google it

[oak ether]

@pseudo flume are you assyrian?

[mint parrot]

Do you know any smuggler so i don't have to pay the taxes

[pseudo flume]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[pseudo flume]

I do tax frauds btw (legit)

[mint parrot]

I'm gonna give you two carpet

[oak ether]

Adonai just means God in Hebrew. It isn't something special.

[pseudo flume]

Yes ik, I added this in my name so i can ask them to google
Ezekiel 16:35 CJB

[pseudo flume]

Y'all are racist, I'm Aladdin that's why you're talking about carpet

[oak ether]

You ain't okay man. You just ain't okay.

[tribal flower]

Aladddin

[pseudo flume]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-monkey-3amskypecall-monkey-gif-6610262280188410503

God forbid i exist

[mint parrot]

Then you give me indian fabric!

[pseudo flume]

Zup goyam

[uncut tiger]

shabbat mubarak

[pseudo flume]

I don't trade with K*rds

[pseudo flume]

Shabbat sholom my beloved rabbi

[tribal flower]

Hello?

[oak ether]

It's not shabat yet, it's Friday.

[uncut tiger]

i have extra classes tomorrow

[mint parrot]

Someone else will do

[uncut tiger]

with qari sahab

[pseudo flume]

It starts from Friday sunset

[thorny steeple]

How do you diagnose depression

[mint parrot]

U piece of racist

[pseudo flume]

Jump

[pseudo flume]

How's it going

[pseudo flume]

Valentine's day
Don't be a victim of Bacha bazi

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/racist-meme-gif-27514290

[pseudo flume]

For the love of Joseph marry and Jesus

[tribal flower]

It's going great, long time no see

[uncut tiger]

let me make a yallneed allah emoji

[mint parrot]

That's because he is indian

[pseudo flume]

No see? Do you know me?

[pseudo flume]

Good luck on adding him as emoji

[tribal flower]

No

[uncut tiger]

you'd get hanged for ts if u were in pakistan

[tribal flower]

Does allah even have a face

[pseudo flume]

Charlie Hebdo type shi

[tribal flower]

🙀

I'm not ||Romanian||

[pseudo flume]

Yes, based on the holy books the god almighty probably have a face

[tribal flower]

So he is a human?

[pseudo flume]

Average Bulgarian

[near nexus]

hllo

[pseudo flume]

No, I've no clue

[tribal flower]

I see

[tribal flower]

https://tenor.com/view/astolfo-bulgaria-bulgarian-male-bulgarian-flag-femboy-foxbg-trap-bg-gif-13811152499848306002

[lyric cipher]

helooooo

[mint parrot]

@turbid dome rate this gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1466959535792066570.gif?name=JewLaugh&size=48

[turbid dome]

wtf/10

[mint parrot]

Oh my so that good

[turbid dome]

More like bad but yeah

[mint parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1466959535792066570.gif?name=JewLaugh&size=48

[turbid dome]

Merchant meme in 2026 😭

[mint parrot]

It won't be old

[turbid dome]

Do you know Netanyahu’s son posted a merchant meme?

[mint parrot]

Never

[mint parrot]

Nope i just saw he posted our flag to troll arabs

[manic juniper]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Goblin_Tinkerer

[mint parrot]

Or Muslims i should say

[turbid dome]

Rocket boots time

[mint parrot]

What is that

[turbid dome]

The workshop and reforge is nice

[turbid dome]

Don’t be like Netanyahu’s son

[mint parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1466959535792066570.gif?name=JewLaugh&size=48

[mint parrot]

Should I be like ayatullah granddaughters lol

[turbid dome]

Go ahead

[tribal flower]

BRO THIS

THIS HE TOOK LIKE 100 PLAT AND HE GAVE ME NOTHING

cry~1

I WANTED GOOD ENCHANTMENTS FOR MY ZENITH

[turbid dome]

Me begging for a demonic mega shark 😭

[manic juniper]

He looks like him, he has a beaked nose and no hair

[manic juniper]

If you already have Zenith then legendary modifier is kind of overkill

[turbid dome]

In most cases but if you’re using it as melee while you’re like a mage then idk

[tribal flower]

the megashark is soo good it was so helpful when i first entered the Hardmode

[tribal flower]

Yeah but when you play Terraria for long you'll need everything

[tribal flower]

I use the shimmer

[turbid dome]

Yeah it was good until post-plantera ig.

[tribal flower]

the Oynx blaster

[turbid dome]

Yeah I end up using that lol

[tribal flower]

is the first thing i got

[pseudo flume]

Hava nagila

[turbid dome]

Rule Brittania

[pseudo flume]

Curse be upon Churchill

May he rott in hell

[turbid dome]

The decision to send your food to feed the whites causing your people to get a famine 💀

[mint parrot]

Does he have coins

[mint parrot]

Well no

[turbid dome]

Ayatollah Ali KhaRAINi

[turbid dome]

All of mine for sure

[pseudo flume]

We didn't spend enough on PR

[mint parrot]

Benjamin martin

[mint parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1466959535792066570.gif?name=JewLaugh&size=48

[turbid dome]

True, if you could spend more money on PR

[pseudo flume]

Btw he's legit jewish

[turbid dome]

Doesn’t flow the same

[pseudo flume]

Just call him Martiniii

[mint parrot]

Martin?

[pseudo flume]

Yes

[mint parrot]

I thought he was zaionts

[turbid dome]

No 😭

[mint parrot]

It does

[pseudo flume]

He's more like self hating jew

[turbid dome]

Nope

[mint parrot]

Mosad agent spy be like

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭😭 ADL preparing to invade India now

[pseudo flume]

Muhammad Martiniii

[pseudo flume]

What's ADL?

[turbid dome]

😭

[manic juniper]

After you interact with him yes, he has plenty

[mint parrot]

Where is Joseph to give me another idea

[turbid dome]

Org that does fake antisemitism smears to protect Israel. Also literally spied for apartheid South Africa

[pseudo flume]

Anti Defination league?

[turbid dome]

Defamation but yeah

[turbid dome]

They denied the Armenian genocide because they’re Jewish supremacists and think the Holocaust is special and practically the only genocide

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-love-gif-5332182558804838974

[uncut tiger]

Dead asf

[sonic lion]

I think it's anti-scientific and works purely on idealism

I don't even know what I am anymore tho, maybe hopeless is the answer

[sterile fractal]

Helloe

[potent tide]

omg joseph jugashvili

[gritty bobcat]

Ugh

[potent tide]

?

it is his real name

[glad patio]

Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili Aka Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin

[fresh flower]

Lmfao literally waffling, knowing fully well that she's wrong, then leaving the server

If anyone got her as friend tell her from me "Go back to Islam"

[true lark]

One of the pope people said being gay wasn't a sin, only acting on it was

So it's not a set in stone thing

Can't just say it's plain wrong, only that it's an opinion you disagree with

I'm not Christian

Just, for anyone here who somehow hadn't noticed

[fresh flower]

Neither am I twin

But "Gay being a sin" was never the main argument, she just kept changing the goalpost

My initial insult was "Gay and orthodox"

There's NOTHING in Orthodoxy that allows for 2 gay femboys or 2 butch lesbians to be together

[turbid dome]

He said it was a sin and not a crime.

Pretty much, he thought it was wrong, but should not be a crime or exclude you from the church.

[turbid dome]

Pretty much “it’s wrong but I won’t punish you for it”

[fresh flower]

I been looking it up and what she said with "Being gay is okay but gay sex isn't okay" literally goes against patristic interpretation, moral teaching on sexuality, the distinction between moral and ceremonial law, and holy tradition within the Orthodox church

[sonic lion]

This debate will never end

People will agree to dehumanize themselves but not drop out the religion

[sonic lion]

Lmao with the che guevara pic

[fresh flower]

It's not even a debate

There's debates on womens place in the church, abortion, and such, but not a single opinion that goes against "Gay is wrong" in Orthodoxy

[turbid dome]

It’s a coping session

[turbid dome]

His top priority

[lethal moth]

hi

[sturdy mango]

Olly da father

[sturdy mango]

[sturdy mango]

@fresh flower

[potent star]

We talking about the important stuff today

[sturdy mango]

What important stuff

[potent star]

Whether or not orthodoxy allows femboys

[sturdy mango]

ok i am out

[potent star]

Are you a theist?

[sturdy mango]

no

[gloomy frost]

[potent star]

Hey babygorl

[deep jacinth]

Hey

[warped rover]

Hi

[neon sierra]

i slept so good

[sturdy mango]

mashallah

[sonic lion]

Can I join

[turbid dome]

Dead still

Rip

[deep zephyr]

All the jerks are asleep ✌️

[crystal kayak]

Dude don't you sleep,every time your online

[turbid dome]

I’ll sleep in a few hours

[pseudo flume]

Babbling bumbling band of baboons

[crystal kayak]

Did olivander the third just make the gay christian rage quit the server

[sonic lion]

Sorry he was just rocking in that pic

[sonic lion]

She quit??

[pseudo flume]

Dude it's not even 11, chill out

[turbid dome]

It’s 11:20

[turbid dome]

Yeah 😭

[sonic lion]

Damn...

[pseudo flume]

It's not 11, somewhere on the world

[sonic lion]

Olivander must be happy now

[turbid dome]

lol

[pseudo flume]

Did I miss another masterclass by olive

[turbid dome]

Nah, reduces long term trolling potential.

It’s like Karl Marx said “I love religion”

[crystal kayak]

Indeed,I would also quit if I declare myself a the no 1 best debator on this channel and then get cooked.That was not even a rage Bait he told her truth,she couldn't handle so it she ran

[turbid dome]

It was the lesbian orthodox Christian trying to argue being lesbian isn’t a sin

[gloomy frost]

She has alt.

On this server from what I remember.

[turbid dome]

Does she 😭

[gloomy frost]

She does, I saw it with my eyes when she got muted one's.

[pseudo flume]

Y'all should stop ragebaiting others

[turbid dome]

lol

[pseudo flume]

What's your plan of valentine's day

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭😭

[pseudo flume]

You can pay me and I'll be your valentine for 3 days

[turbid dome]

I think she had Marxist in her bio at one point

😭

[sonic lion]

Yeah it must be a sensitive topic for her, she was clearly uncomfortable everytime they addressed the issue

[turbid dome]

Also yeah she had the gall to call others stupid 😭

[sonic lion]

Lol
Did Marx had any ideas of religion that did not addressed feuerbach?

[crystal kayak]

Eat food and enjoy the weekends

[pseudo flume]

I wonder what your neighbours are upto

[pseudo flume]

Nana aah ethnicity

[crystal kayak]

What? She is not the victim,the olive guy was the victim

[turbid dome]

I mean in his critique of Hegel he had his famous opium if th people line and in the communist manifesto he wrote about Christian socialism

[cerulean pivot]

Poor oli

[sonic lion]

She was annoying as hell but I think she got genuinely affected since she quit

[crystal kayak]

Don't even bruh

[pseudo flume]

It's nearly oil

[cerulean pivot]

If he lived in a Muslim country he won't say that ✌️

[crystal kayak]

And what is your point

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭😭 he would

[cerulean pivot]

They won't let him

[pseudo flume]

Mama didn't raise a quitter

[turbid dome]

Ok fair enough 😭

[pseudo flume]

Would you prefer to live in a country based on Sharia law?

[sonic lion]

Yeah it's such an iconic line and often misunderstood
He was heavily influenced by feuerbach but I guess he didn't thought too much about religion

[turbid dome]

I legit saw someone try and say that it meant he thought opium was good and therefore religion too 😭

[sonic lion]

LMAO

[deep zephyr]

Sons of bitches drove the lesbian away!!! Cunts!!!

I really thought this wouldn't make it

[turbid dome]

There’s like a whole few paragraphs before it

Which are always left out

[turbid dome]

“…so has Clerical Socialism with Feudal Socialism.
Nothing is easier than to give Christian asceticism a Socialist tinge. Has not Christianity declaimed against private property, against marriage, against the State? Has it not preached in the place of these, charity and poverty, celibacy and mortification of the flesh, monastic life and Mother Church? Christian Socialism is but the holy water with which the priest consecrates the heart-burnings of the aristocrat…”

That was his part from the communist manifesto

[sonic lion]

I think he's more referenced than he is read, at least nowadays
Or people are so cynical with preconceived ideas about communism that they read him wrong

[turbid dome]

Wdym

[sonic lion]

I love the writing of the manifesto, it's so incendiary

[deep zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/xannyhours-gif-20756555

[turbid dome]

Yup, it’s awesome. Ig that’s what propaganda is designed to be as compared to capital where he counts child mortality somewhere 😭

[sonic lion]

I think people are very inclined to misread him or not try to understand him, they wan to prove that he's wrong more than actually trying to understand him
At least ring wingers commentarians do it a lot here

[turbid dome]

Yeah makes sense ig, I also think people just take that one line when the entire work it’s in is remarkably short

It literally begins as well with “For Germany, the criticism of religion has been essentially completed, and the criticism of religion is the prerequisite of all criticism.”

Like literally saying the first thing you need to criticize is religion 😭

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/intro.htm

[sonic lion]

I love this website

[sonic lion]

I see more people actually saying that he was super hostile towards religion

I think this quote is perhaps I bit outdated too, I think we have another opium nowadays

[turbid dome]

I mean I think he was just based off of his attitude towards it

Opium is generally not seen as favorable, but as damaging escapism

[turbid dome]

We have so many types of opium

[sonic lion]

What do you think they are?

I think it's not too soon to say entertainment

[turbid dome]

I mean I would argue the largest is religion. There’s sports and celebrity culture. Even social media to an extent.

[sonic lion]

And he was right lol

[turbid dome]

I think religion is the most unique

[sonic lion]

Have you read amusing ourselves do death by neil postman? There he argues how religion lost it's core when televised and how it became empty entertainment

[turbid dome]

Yup, it’s why it’s surprising to see so many MLs who love to quote random bits of Lenin and Marx for everything to just hand wave it away and be religious themselves.

[sonic lion]

It's a very referenced book nowadays

Even tho I think it's a bit too judgemental

[turbid dome]

I feel it’s a personality cult sometimes lol

[turbid dome]

Nope, never heard of it

[turbid dome]

Does he mean the actual television or when it began to spread

[sonic lion]

Actual television. The book was written in the 80s where he argues how entertainment declined our culture intellectually

It's still very relevant to our issues

I think the best stuff I read about entertainment were actually written about television and not social media

[turbid dome]

Hmm. It definitely did but I don’t think that applies to religion at all. I just think it’s always been a tool

[turbid dome]

I guess there’s more time to study that and it’s a lot more simple compared to social media which is a lot more complex than simply turning on a channel

Social media just allows me to ask “have people always been this dumb or am I just seeing it more because of social media”

[sonic lion]

Yeah I think it's definitely not religion itself but the forms in which it's discourse has taken
I think I'm just generalizing some viral videos I saw

[turbid dome]

I mean I think when it’s this easy to use over this many millennia it is inherent to religion

[sonic lion]

I agree with you but it depends on how deeply your analysis go
TV in the USA 90s were a lot similar to the language of social media nowadays

[turbid dome]

It defines in groups and out groups.

Even if you argued it didn’t, it still sort of tells people that they’re most moral for being this religion, leading to the implication others aren’t as moral, and suddenly you have moral certainty and superiority

Lends itself perfectly to hierarchy

[turbid dome]

How so

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ov7bRasBw94

he is just a radical left who just came power to spread communism in New York city

we need to get him out, right now and elect Republican officials to bring New York to the right path of development

Make America Great Again

[turbid dome]

It’s the most generic liberal Zionist response of all time 😭

[feral river]

he's threatening the national security of the United States of America

[feral river]

it was the truth that everybody knows he is a radical left

[turbid dome]

He’s currently busy texting Trump and calling Obama while denouncing pro Palestine protesters, I think he’s status quo but extra treats for Americans 😭

[turbid dome]

He’s a sellout

[feral river]

and he took a very wrong stance with the terrorists and terrorist supporters to fight against the domination of the US and the ally which is the State of Israel

[turbid dome]

Got his free political power from the Dems and now is going to do the classic establishment politician with radial aesthetics

[sonic lion]

That's what I'm saying, it's like the discourse serves purely people's egos and not their souls
I'm an atheist so I don't know shit, but when I read Simone Weil or Spinoza just makes me think how deep religion experience could go idk
Not that those thinkers were popular representatives of religion I'm just yapping at this point

[feral river]

even by that it was wrong cuz he need to be publicly disregard the whole issue and stop using it as part of his campaign and go kiss the holy wall 100 times

[turbid dome]

I’m not familiar with either tbf, but yeah I have a hard time understanding religious people because it makes no sense to me when I see how it’s used and internalized

[sonic lion]

Idk if you like to read essays but I read the best one from a beloved author of mine that talks about this

He argues how TV in the late 90s, relying on dark humor, irony and cynicism produced painfully self aware vigilant individuals, it's really good

[turbid dome]

He probably will eventually

[manic juniper]

Communism isn't a problem anymore, it's a problem when it isn't MAGA communism

[turbid dome]

I guess depends on the subject.

[feral river]

every U.S. person should kiss the holy wall every year as part of the civil duty to be a U.S. citizen

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[manic juniper]

And he isn't a MAGA communist, he is the #1 enemy of USA right after bottle caps with straps

[sonic lion]

Yeah I always get a bit worried that I'm being shallow because I genuinely don't get it
Those authors just changed my view of the actual human value it posesses, I was a bit cynical

[feral river]

MAGA doing a little bit more national socialism rather than communism

that aligns my value and interest I'm also in favor to some ideas in national socialism

[sonic lion]

Well it's a literature essay analysing TV and how literature can serve as a solution to entertainment

[turbid dome]

Yeah, idk. Politically I’m conflicted on a solution. Like education would be a step in the right direction but I almost think it would require more than that. Like maybe teaching a world religions class as mandatory, so you can see how remarkably similar they all are? Idk

[turbid dome]

What is it

[turbid dome]

I mean the name

[turbid dome]

Also not saying it’s wrong but hilariously self serving to write an essay about how literature is the solution

[sonic lion]

They did that in my school and it was the weirdest thing ever
I can't even come up with solutions tbh I don't even know how people believe in religion as a set of rules you have to follow etc
If kids could actually do critical thinking in school we would be a little better

[feral river]

entertainment does not need a solution, it comes from the people's idea and personal deposition

[turbid dome]

Yeah I ended up taking that class but it was in high school and optional.

We legitimately need media literacy and evidence classes early on because it gets programmed in at a young age

[sonic lion]

He was addicted to TV himself and doesn't look at it with necessarily a negative point, nor does he claim literature is a solution but how it can be

[feral river]

I don't believe that if there was a universal stuff that could attract everyone in a freaking screen to see AI generated stuff for non-stop 5 hours

[turbid dome]

I mean I know solutions but I’m trying to balance that with being humane and can’t find something yk

[feral river]

besides what was that called ? tik-what something ends with tok.

[turbid dome]

Fair enough

[feral river]

and that was invented by communist China

[sonic lion]

I don't think it is inherently bad but a diet consisting only on trash tv doesn't seem like a good one yk

[feral river]

market competition exists in entertainment industry

[turbid dome]

Sadly

[sonic lion]

Lmao yeah it's really tough
I wish I could find genuinely spiritual folks who are open for debate but it's hard

[feral river]

I think we need a monopoly on that to spread supreme leader's personal ideas and propaganda to tell people work and follow the supreme leader for no reason

[sonic lion]

That's a very you thing to say 😭

[feral river]

they don't need any entertainment, all entertainment they got is the word of little praise by the leader

[sonic lion]

For sure but at what costs? We're maximizing entertainment and we should ask what we are losing to brainrot not what our market is gaining

[turbid dome]

Also open for a debate where it’s not just “give me an exception for this”

[feral river]

people's gonna cry to see the leader's face cuz they are damn so happy than ever

[turbid dome]

Also it just means any way to make the most optimal returns, not necessarily the best movie

[feral river]

market run at its course without people

there was the demand, there was the market

[sonic lion]

Yesss! Debates are so focused in semantics and general gibberish rather than an actual conversation
I think I don't like debates in general, it assumes that my view is necessary a right one and I have to convince people regardless if I'm not sure

[feral river]

you don't see how the animals would trade something with each other that doesn't mean they do not have a demand, but a very market survival rule imposed on their physical positions

we had the market to just serve the people's interest is the best way to use economy to benefit people in real place

[turbid dome]

Ok but my viewpoint is the right one, obviously.

Nah jk but I do love debates

[feral river]

so all of you gonna appreciate that our economy is controlled by us, by who has the most money

[sonic lion]

Idk man I'm not really concerned with debating economics, I'm more worried about the human value of it
Why it has demand in the first place?

[feral river]

rather than some several bureaucrats that is going to decide how many beef ticket you are going to be distributed next month

or none so you can't eat them nor you could buy it

[sonic lion]

Really? Probably 'cause you're way smarter than me and know what you're talking about lol
I can't help but feeling bad in debates

It stresses me out too much

[feral river]

I'm sure that world is not what you wanted but that world is 100% equal and serve the best level of equity

[turbid dome]

Nah I’m just stubborn lol, funnily I have low stress tolerance but in debates it’s the opposite.

[feral river]

my grandma even appreciate that life of being controlled by the government which decides what you could eat for the next week

rice ticket, beef ticket, oil ticket, TV ticket etc.

that's what we got in a command economy

and it was distributed by the government bureaucrats, 100%

[turbid dome]

I also extremely briefly took a debate class + did model UN (less debating but more researching countries and negotiating)

[feral river]

well you have to know once you put human in the first place, you are not pro-market economy in the first place

[sonic lion]

There's an anthropologist who interviewed gamblers of Las Vegas and a woman said that she didn't play to win or do lose, but to stay in that world where nothing else matters

I think it's the same with entertainment
We have this thing (whatever device) that can turn into whatever we want

[feral river]

because the attributives of the market economy does not depend on human, it depends on supply and demand

human are just the source of demand in modern era

[sonic lion]

That's a good point I guess

[sonic lion]

I thought you read Schopenhauer or Aristotle in it lol

[turbid dome]

We have one server in common still so idk

[sonic lion]

My comment is more on culture, I don't even have the knowledge to talk about economics

[turbid dome]

No lmao, you do politics. Like I was in it and was Romania, so I pretty much just observed. But then I did some work on Iran (got selected to be Iran in general assembly around the time Trump was trying to trash the JCPOA) and that was fun. You had to get familiar with Iran and also how it would vote, what it would advocate for, etc.

[sonic lion]

And I think entertainment is a good thing, we all have a right to it
My problem is with this culture of braindead brainrot addiction we created

[feral river]

culture is inevitably part of the politics as well as linked to the economy

[turbid dome]

Or maybe it was after the JCPOA got scrapped by the US but negotiating a new nuclear settlement idk

[sonic lion]

For sure, I know it all begins there

[turbid dome]

Yeah idk how to separate the two

[sonic lion]

Diplomacy role play, that must be fun
I would probably be soo nervous to talk like that

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭 got cancelled because of covid

[feral river]

well actually there was the economy in the first place then there was politics, and that political structure, environmental situation and people's idea shaped the culture which unifies one area of people to commit it

[turbid dome]

But yeah first time standing up and giving an opening statement is a bit much lol.

[feral river]

and these factors are all affecting the other factors

[sonic lion]

As DFW said, there's a part of us that needs this quietness, thinking about something for hours rather than 30 seconds, a part that doesn't get fed anymore
That's what's concerning. It's like everybody's souls is being molded by social media, by this cynical language that invites people to diminish themselves and others all the time

[sonic lion]

Dang it never opened again?

[turbid dome]

You’re given pretty much complete freedom. You’re told things like “the resolutions you should work towards should be in the effort of preventing further nuclear proliferation” and then get complete freedom to draft whatever proposal you want

[turbid dome]

It did but I changed schools by then lol

[sonic lion]

How much time you had to research?

[turbid dome]

Yeah my issue is I’m always thinking lmao

[turbid dome]

I don’t remember off the top of my head, at least a month

[manic juniper]

They needed something to rally around to have a sense of community and hate towards whoever wasn't included

[turbid dome]

Probably closer to 2

[sonic lion]

I always try too but honestly
Having too much access to people's thoughts it's killing me lol

[feral river]

unfortunately, due to the group psychology and politics ongoing, the sense of community comes from the hate towards one other

[turbid dome]

I wish I didn’t have to deal with other people’s thoughts because they get wild sometimes lol.

[feral river]

your differentiate feeling of you are unique itself, is one important factor that you differentiate yourself between other people

[sonic lion]

Oh that's a good time actually
It would be way worse if you had like a week, I would have zero confidence

[manic juniper]

The best way to bond with someone is over hating a third person

[feral river]

exactly it is just a psychology of acquire the maximum interest in absolute objective mindset

that logical equation exists

[manic juniper]

This is also how serious chat was created

[turbid dome]

Yeah, I mean obviously it’s a room full of Americans and so you can see who researched and who didn’t lmao.

[sonic lion]

Yeah I'm trying not to get too sensitive about it but I guess people affect me too much

[feral river]

but some braindead asshs are going to ruin it

that's why there was the Supreme Leader and provisional council

[manic juniper]

They will face the wall

But they won't be able to kiss this one

[sonic lion]

Don't worry I will get a job!

[turbid dome]

Same but better to not show it I figured

[sonic lion]

Oh definitely

[turbid dome]

Idk I’ve been especially bothered by the recent wave of “anti-Zionist” activists just straight up excusing their favorite people spewing pro-Israel rhetoric or harming pro-Palestine activists on the ground

[feral river]

it's time to tell all media to remove the word of Palestine out of the english dictionary

[turbid dome]

It’s like, there’s no moral consistency and it’s just a ton of “I want to feel good” for so many. There’s a few good groups at least that give me some hope but idk

[feral river]

it's time to only use Israeli arabs to call these people

[sonic lion]

Celebrity culture is cancer ngl people are always using politics as weapon to hate or praise celebrities

[feral river]

or gazans

[sonic lion]

Everything turns out to be about them

[shy summit]

See this shit, . . . This is shit is just disgusting.

Like. Totally tone deaf and completely lacking any sort of empathetic respect for the weight of the situation.

[turbid dome]

I mean politicians are just politically themed celebrities.

Like I think the best example has been Platner, idk if you’re familiar.

[feral river]

finally you guys didn't do some good job on that make me laugh a long while about it

[sonic lion]

I'm not 😭

[silent narwhal]

Why it work like that? Why having access to people's thoughts killing you

[feral river]

well empathy isn't universal, people pick interest and stances and politics above empathy or they just use it as a tool

at least I will tell you that I don't care who I empathy with, but I do follow the course of the rule of nature

I'm the most honest person in here

[sonic lion]

I think the algorithm and how it works always encourages people to say the worst things for attention
It comes to a point where they just mock everything and everyone, and there's so much hostility
I said this before I feel like there's something deeply wrong with me that isn't wrong with anybody else, that's is

[sonic lion]

Wym rule of nature

[shy summit]

Follow the most fundamental rules of human interaction @feral river “If you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all,”

Conversations like this don’t have any room for utter disrespect of the weight of this situations.

[sonic lion]

I always think it's disneyland on Nales picture for some reason

[turbid dome]

Ok this guy is running in the Maine democratic primary for Senator.

He was a 4 tour Iraq and Afghanistan soldier who was stationed at infamous torture camp Abu Ghraib. He also worked for Blackwater (the mercenary group). Now that should be bad enough for anyone who thinks non Americans are equal humans, but then it was revealed he had an SS skull (Toten Kopf) tattoo.

This guy is running as a “progressive” (applied by others and not him), and the same year he was in Afghanistan working for blackwater he posted that he’s a communist on Reddit. Also on that Reddit he said he joined to kill people. He also said he rejects the progressive label.

He got defended by all the biggest “left-wing” people online.

[shy summit]

This is not a game. These are human lives. And they are being extinguished. Do not make light or downplay this utter disrespect for human life.

[sonic lion]

Bro wtf

https://youtu.be/wXcS9oD1_i8?si=aCOeVI839HC3CEcF

Straight me reminded me of this video

[turbid dome]

This guy is great btw but yeah idk why so many people are so politically incoherent

[sonic lion]

And left wing ppl defending him??

[turbid dome]

Let me find some

[sonic lion]

This reminds me of something Zizek said paraphrasing Marx's "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it"

Zizek said we should actually take a step back and start to think again lol

It's like labels are so contradictory

[feral river]

on human lives okay I think you made a fair point

[turbid dome]

There’s one 😭

[feral river]

but these aren't related with political situation

don't even try to say because they are the weak they deserve some privilege over the powerful ones

in the rule of nature everybody is absolutely equal under the force

[sonic lion]

Omg it must be a paid actor

I know the left is harsh of criticizing itself but goddaman

[shy summit]

Don’t downplay the fact that they are being treated like animals. They are being treated as subhuman in this arparteid

[turbid dome]

Yup, it’s why I ultimately see philosophy as a sort of useless thing to be focused on primarily, and more see it as a secondary tool

[feral river]

for this one you are right about it

okay

[turbid dome]

If anything it’s allowed too many to larp as leftists 😭

[sonic lion]

Exactly!!

[feral river]

I'm not some demon who would advocate the death of certain group of people, but I follow the pattern of the political struggles

[shy summit]

Do you see how what you said was downright demonic?

[turbid dome]

Like this guy legit talked about how much he loved war and wanted to fight in pretty much every colonial war😭

[shy summit]

You just advocated on behalf of an apartheid regime

Maybe think before you open your goddamn mouth

[vivid wedge]

@sonic lion you're tretando against the MINECRAFT?!

[feral river]

I personally do not consider the Netanyahu Administration is demonic and apartheid, but I know some situations in Gaza that people's lives are endangered by the war and starvation

[turbid dome]

https://youtu.be/HbVTqXotFjA?si=e1PlmiFV8sZuzNhT

this video is insane for the defense it runs 😭

[feral river]

they does not deserve that, but the war must be settled in complete victory against Hamas which is a terrorist group send people into this situation

[shy summit]

BY ISRAEL jfc. It’s like talking to a goddamn brick fucking wall.

[sonic lion]

I don't even know about philosophy anymore but I would say online debate has sure lost it's purpose, it's just spectacle

[turbid dome]

Yup, pretty much just all for show

[sonic lion]

No lmao eles tão discutindo entre eles

[shy summit]

The war was fucking over more than a year ago

It’s been over

[feral river]

if you think their way of ruling is apartheid, it is not equal enough, absolutely, I think all Gazans or Israeli arabs and Israeli Jewish should be equally treated

but it is not absolutely the reason they want to break apart against the national interest of the State of Israel

that is active treason against the state

[shy summit]

That’s not how it is… jesus christ do you not know that Gaza is an open air prison?

[shy summit]

They ARENT A PART OF ISRAEL

Oh my god

[vivid wedge]

É RELIGIÃO?

[feral river]

I'm all aware, all I'm saying that, they do not deserve that situation, but they have to accept a rule of under the Israel sovereignty

[sonic lion]

Palestina e israel

[shy summit]

Yeah no

[vivid wedge]

num sei, bosta

[feral river]

and they should be treated equally as the citizen of the State of Israel

under protection of the IDF without discrimination and hateful behavior towards these group of people

[high raven]

Should

[sonic lion]

Yeah, should?

Why not the other way around

[shy summit]

You realize their throwing parties with videos of murdering Palestinians in the background right?

They don’t want equality

Are you THIS NAIVE?

[feral river]

these type of individual or military personnels should be sent to prison

they are misbehaving IDF

[shy summit]

THIS IS THE AVERAGE CITIZEN

[feral river]

my stance does not tolerant such type of people

they should all sent to prison if my military does what you claimed for

[shy summit]

It’s not about national security its not about national interest, it’s about ethnic cleansing

It always has been

Nothing more

Nothing less

[turbid dome]

Wait is Minecraft advocating to jail most Israelis?

What a 180

[shy summit]

Don’t be a fucking imbecile

[turbid dome]

Well th ethnic cleansing is in national interest

[feral river]

I never support an ethnic cleansing, but I stance with the national interest of the State of Israel as well as the national interest of the United States of America

[shy summit]

Not helping

[feral river]

do you put national interest above everything ?

[shy summit]

This is not in the interest of the US

[sonic lion]

Honestly till this day I don't get Minecraft world view

[feral river]

you are just putting some empathy to play down in this situation while ignoring the call of the US and Israel which they are committed to defend their citizen, territory and national interests

[high raven]

It's pretty simple though

[shy summit]

It’s fucking bass ackwards

[turbid dome]

I mean they want to do genocide/ethnic cleansing for the same reason early Americans did, it allows them to further solidify their position.

[high raven]

He who has big gun has power

[shy summit]

Not. Helping.

[feral river]

it is a lot, dude that was clear.

you put ideological struggle or empathy over national interest, you will have this equation

but for only national interest, it is a lot