🧠｜serious-chat

[gloomy frost]

If power must be constantly maintained through control, doesn’t that mean it relies on the compliance of others?
And if it relies on others, isn’t it borrowed rather than inherent?

[feral river]

force and control does not coming from morality, but from the force itself that could push people to do things at its course

you can't say I don't have moral because I use guns to point at crowds and force them to do things if that's your definition

but it is what it works simply which I hold the power, I deserve it, and that's my status

[gloomy frost]

i wasn't talking about where force and control comes from, I didn't even begin on that, I said why are you saying they deserve or justified it? That's moral words.

[feral river]

I hold the power not because I'm justified, it's because I hold it

I hold the fucking material like money or gun that represent my power

since I hold it, I'm justified

that's it

[gloomy frost]

._. that's moral word.

[feral river]

then I have to say you are saying bs on this point

[gloomy frost]

Your sentence is breaking basic language.

[feral river]

I'm using very clear logic and explaination in a very easy way

[gloomy frost]

[feral river]

you are trying to confuse it with your moral thing which does not even relevant in this equation

it is out of this totally

[gloomy frost]

No. Not all all, You still haven't told me how does one gain power.

[feral river]

🤣

[high rapids]

.

[gloomy frost]

Eww, sure buddy Whatever you say. If morality is irrelevant stop using moral words.

Stop using justification and deserve

[feral river]

I don't give a fuck about your moral words, some words are obviously neutral and does represent some meaning

[gloomy frost]

And this one isn't.

[feral river]

morality is a totally human made concept that based on one's subjective perspective which how things are justified to go

[gloomy frost]

Smart ass, If you are truly not using morality, Stop using moral words.

[feral river]

that's piece of shit, purely

[pseudo flume]

What's the countdown about?

[gloomy frost]

Again if that is the case, Stop using moral words.

[feral river]

I'm not saying a subjective instance, I'm saying what it goes for now in reality which is total objective

[high rapids]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[feral river]

you are trying to use your moral which is irrelevant to confuse with reality

[gloomy frost]

Why did you felt the need to say this line?

[feral river]

nah dude, not gonna work for me

[gloomy frost]

._.

[pseudo flume]

Mashallah, make sure you don't get eaten

[gloomy frost]

You know what? I am going to put your framework in reality, then I will ask questions.

[feral river]

go on

[gloomy frost]

How does one gain power?

If power is absolute how does one get it?

[feral river]

in a struggle, who has the advantage against the other, holds the power

[supple bridge]

oh that's gore... of my comfort character...

[feral river]

in a survival struggle, who has the deadly force, who has power

[gloomy frost]

._. how does one even begin having advantage over others?

[feral river]

in a money run struggle, who has the most money, who has power

[gloomy frost]

How does one gain money?

How does one gain power? You still haven't answered it in a realistic way.

[feral river]

that was depends on different environment, different cases and instances, you need practical examples

somebody born in a rich family automatically gains power

that's the reality

[gloomy frost]

I see, So why do they "deserve"? Power? Just because they were born in a rich family?

[feral river]

yes because they hold it, they deserve it, that's the basic justification to reality

you can't say it is objective to say one does not deserve it while having it

that's total personal judgement and bs

[gloomy frost]

No. That's again a moral word, And sure where do you come in all of this? Are you rich? Do you have power?

[feral river]

ofc I have power no doubt

you have power to say something in this place

[gloomy frost]

No one deserves anything, Not even happiness or sadness.

[feral river]

somebody got their eye turn blind that can't even know what we are typing right now

[gloomy frost]

No, I meant the supreme power you speak of.

[high rapids]

you get warned/muted for this

[feral river]

do you think in a survival struggle it's hard for you to beat him ?

that's the power

[gloomy frost]

Why did you felt the need to type this?

[feral river]

I'm taking a fair example

[gloomy frost]

That was irrevant.

[gloomy frost]

No. That wasn't.

[feral river]

why it wasn't you might explain

[gloomy frost]

Again where is your supreme power? Are you a ruler of some country?

[feral river]

It's a perfect stance relation between the case I mentioned before and this case

[feral river]

I'm not obviously, but I don't have to hold it to hold power ?

who said that you have to be a ruler of the country to hold power

[gloomy frost]

What? That sounds so incoherent btw.

[gloomy frost]

Then which power you have been talking about? You have been saying power is absolute, power is this and that.

[feral river]

no idea, if your level isn't that high to understand it

[gloomy frost]

Why did you felt the need to type that?

[feral river]

because you called it incoherent

and I assume you don't have the capability of understand it

[gloomy frost]

I was talking about the last part.

[gloomy frost]

Sure. You know what? Keep your power fantasy. If you're just going to refuse that justification and deserve are moral words.

[feral river]

it is not fantasy, it is the world you live in and I live in

[pseudo flume]

Why are you going to china

[feral river]

I speak of reality

not some moral bs

[gloomy frost]

And yet I don't see the supreme power you claim to believe in.

[high rapids]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[high rapids]

Because I want to leave Europe just for a while

[pseudo flume]

Chongqing, stereotypes are real afterall

[high rapids]

Have you been there?

[pseudo flume]

No, I've never been to China

[high rapids]

I have started learning Chinese.

but it's not that simple

[pseudo flume]

That's great, you're white so they won't be racist towards you

[pseudo flume]

I've heard it's among the toughest language

[high rapids]

Yes it is. The Chinese language, for example, has four different variants of the letter “e,” all of which are pronounced differently, making it complicated and demoralizing.

[pseudo flume]

that's wild

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ANRo5Fto7ag

we never target muslim as a group that we attempt to wipe them out of our country

we only target terrorists, separatists, and who would violate the law of the PRC

🇨🇳 Long Live the People's Republic of China

[thorny steeple]

Who?

[sharp creek]

i see, thank you sir

[agile cipher]

Good Morning

[pseudo flume]

Minecraft Glazing chinese Muslims wasn't in my 2026 list

[deep zephyr]

Is 65 and 30 a problematic age difference?

[frozen cape]

don't wait until you're 65

[deep zephyr]

Say yes or no

[open gazelle]

It depends on the person

[deep zephyr]

Wdym

[mellow pelican]

FBI HERE

[frozen cape]

they'd be at different stages of their lives

[deep zephyr]

That's obvious. Let's say they are ok with it. Would u see it as a problematic age difference?

[high raven]

It's cruel if they plan on having children

[deep zephyr]

Let's say no children. They do plan to have a long term relationship

[gloomy frost]

No.

[high raven]

Really shouldn't matter then if it's compatible 🤷🏽‍♀️

[deep zephyr]

Well, I said something similar and got jumped 😭

They were like how can u justify 35 year age difference

[high raven]

No need to, it's between the two of them if they're both that age, nothing odd or weird about it unless they plan on having children

[high raven]

Are you disagreeing for disagreements sake

[frozen cape]

me personally? no, they're consenting adults

[feral river]

I’m gonna have a lot of little Minecrafts

Just see about it XD

[high raven]

Will you give them white people names?

[gloomy frost]

No.

[deep zephyr]

You people are reacting to it differently than the people in movie server

[feral river]

Some are granted some are not

They need to learn what is discrimination

[deep zephyr]

Donald and Benjamin is probably his 1st two choice

[frozen cape]

go on

[high raven]

Letterboxd server?

[deep zephyr]

Nope, I'm banned from there. I may have said they were pretentious cinephiles

There's another movie server

It has 85K members

[frozen cape]

lol i know someone who studies filmmaking who shares the same opinion

[high raven]

Banned for not thinking that Czechoslovakian masterpiece Marketa Lazarova (1967) isn't the greatest movie ever

[deep zephyr]

They might win the most fragile mods in all of cord argument

[deep zephyr]

He better not say that in Letterboxd server

[sturdy mango]

Hello

[sturdy mango]

Sanna

[high rapids]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2TE4xW3ImvpltVU0cPcKUn?si=c6oHekXhQrCAxYASNZsK0g

[shell hemlock]

Hello

My name is

[woven quail]

Yessssssss. Jin jian azadi

https://tenor.com/view/womp-womp-gif-862196476376066006

[lavish finch]

crying out loud

[fresh flower]

I thought ts was a joke but I looked it up and it's a real movie 💀

[woven quail]

[gloomy frost]

Really?

[fresh flower]

What

[thorny steeple]

Lemme carry you

[gloomy frost]

Idk.

[tiny marlin]

Heyyy

Wassup

[copper bear]

Hélio

[slender coral]

Mamdani quoting the Quran is silly but honestly I loved it. Muslim fundamentalists probably were in deep pain listening to that

[sturdy mango]

Dumbahh

[gloomy frost]

Sure, Come to papa.

[thorny coral]

Wow

[uncut tiger]

Take a bath

Why's it pointing towards your name 🫵🏻

[plain ruin]

Hi

[plain ruin]

You don't get it

He wants you to get "a load" of "this" guy

[uncut tiger]

I'm too young for ts

🐣

[weak quarry]

Wtf u guys talked

[jade hemlock]

Seems kinda interesting

Idk whatever it is

[quasi needle]

serious chat being anything but serious

[slender coral]

I blame the mods for this.

Would you like to talk about something serious?

[quasi needle]

not at this moment

but it’s impossible to join any convo since they happen once in a blue moon

[wind zephyr]

General chat usually more serious than this

[glossy ether]

bad apple lets gooo

[forest cape]

illegalize legality

[sturdy idol]

That’s look like imu sama

[pallid ivy]

Yo what’s up, this chat is mega dead.

This is what society does with those who think, shove then off into a box

Far away from the rest of society that would benefit with interaction with someone who is not totally normy brained

[primal herald]

oh heyyy unclee nick ur here tooo

[sonic lion]

damn that was on point

[shell hemlock]

Oh wrong channel

[primal herald]

looks delicious tho

[pallid ivy]

We are the down‑trodden, the ones pushed to the outskirts whenever we dare to think out loud.They don’t ban us no, that would be too obvious. They relocate us.

They tuck us away in a quiet corner, a digital attic, where the “serious” conversations go to gather dust.This is what happens to anyone who refuses to run on autopilot!!!!

[carmine knoll]

Hi

How are you

[pallid ivy]

They call it “organization.” They call it “keeping general chat clean.” But we know what it really is:
a soft exile for the people who actually think.

And yet here we are. Still speaking. Still refusing to shrink ourselves to fit the room they gave us.If they wanted silence, they should’ve picked someone else.

[pallid ivy]

Ranting into the void because this chat is dead af

[sonic lion]

That's why I'm always arguing on other chats

They can't hide us

[gloomy frost]

Why did you felt the need to say all this?

[pallid ivy]

Exactly we scatter across the chats like guerilla philosophers because the main square can’t handle too much thinking.

They tuck us away in “serious chat” like we’re radioactive, but somehow we still end up everywhere.

[sonic lion]

Apparently we disturb the conversation, we bother them
But when we're arguing is precisely when the chat is most alive

They're always censuring everyone, until you become a robot like those corny people who only talk through gifs

[pallid ivy]

Because exile doesn’t demand silence. It demands a voice.

[sonic lion]

Poetic

[gloomy frost]

And yet, it doesn't make sense for you to rant about it here.

[sonic lion]

God forbid a person express themselves

[gloomy frost]

why is there a need of that?

[pallid ivy]

If it didn’t make sense to you, that’s exactly why it needed to be said.

[sonic lion]

What do you even want to hear? Apparently nothing is giving you the answer you want

[gloomy frost]

Contradictory sentence.

[gloomy frost]

I want analysis and I am getting it.

[pallid ivy]

If the rant feels out of place to you, that just means you weren’t the audience it was aimed at.

[sonic lion]

Jesus you're insufferable

[gloomy frost]

It's irrelevant to call yourself thinker.

Why did you call yourself "thinker" it's not a title.

It's a process, You can't call yourself "thinker" that seems fake.

[gloomy frost]

Ok.

[sonic lion]

I feel like I'm in a woody allen movie

[pallid ivy]

If that’s all you’ve got, you’ve already conceded more than you realize.

[pallid ivy]

You’re right, thinking is a process. I’m describing what I’m doing. You, on the other hand, are arguing about labels because you don’t want to touch the content.

[sonic lion]

That's what pretentious logic bros do here all the time

[pseudo flume]

Malish

[pallid ivy]

Anyway, like I was saying before the background noise tried to fact‑check the atmosphere…

this is what happens when you shove the thinkers into the attic. We don’t go quiet. We turn the attic into a forum.

They can move us around all they want, but the ideas still spill into every room.
And judging by the nods, I’m clearly not the only one done pretending the box they put us in is the whole world.

And let’s be real, the only people bothered by this are the ones who never wanted it said in the first place.

Alright rant over

[sonic lion]

Most people are not very critical and don't like any type of conflict in general

I just think it's unnecessary to end debates on other chats

As if we are disturbing their peace

[gloomy frost]

Calling yourself a “thinker” is performative.

But either way, Let's engage in the material if there's any.

Btw you're the one claiming yours "thinker".

[sonic lion]

That doesn't make any sense

[onyx compass]

Woahhh

[pallid ivy]

You want to ‘engage the material’?
Great.
Last time we tried that, I asked you a simple question and you vanished.

If harming animals is unnecessary,
why support it?

You never answered then, so answer it now.

[sonic lion]

A person can't be performative just for calling themselves one thing

When internet ppl discover a new word is a hell on earth bro

[pallid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-homer-simpsons-hide-disappear-gif-16799752

Bro just disappeared

[sonic lion]

who even needs one more pseudo intellectual

[gloomy frost]

Ok.

[gloomy frost]

I am not supporting it.
Why did you assume that? I simply said let them eat meat if they want, Knowing the consequences of their actions, or if they want to eat vegan let them eat vegan.

[pallid ivy]

I’m not asking anyone to applaud him, but don’t write him off either.

Someone who’s at least signaling they want to think is already halfway out of the fog. Most people never even get that far.

[sonic lion]

I think he's more into finding contradictions inside people's arguments rather then actually defending a point, but I haven't talk to him much

[pallid ivy]

Saying ‘let them eat meat if they want’ is supporting it. That’s the whole point. If you think unnecessary harm is wrong, you don’t shrug and say ‘let them do it anyway.’

I’m not assuming anything. I’m asking you to take a position.
Is unnecessary harm acceptable or not?

[sonic lion]

You can elaborate if you want tho 🤷

[gloomy frost]

You're using moral vocabulary.
So you do have a moral standpoint.

[pallid ivy]

Lets see if he takes a position

[gloomy frost]

If that is the case, you're just judging people from a morality.

But either way, my stand is letting people eat meat if they want, or not, their choice.

[velvet laurel]

Hallo

[sonic lion]

So we should just let people r*pe if that's their choice?

[pallid ivy]

Saying ‘it’s their choice’ isn’t a moral position. It’s a way of avoiding one. We’re talking about unnecessary harm. Either you think it’s acceptable or you don’t.
Letting people do something harmful while claiming you’re neutral is still supporting the harm.
So I’ll ask again. Is unnecessary harm acceptable or not?

[sonic lion]

Seems like moral relativism

[pallid ivy]

Hello there, welcome to our den of inquiry

[velvet laurel]

Thanks buddy

What is new

[gloomy frost]

Wow, Wild assumptions, I only putted letting eat meat, why did you assumed that it was my whole stand?

[pallid ivy]

We are asking if Unnecessary harm is acceptable

[velvet laurel]

It isn't acceptable right?

[pallid ivy]

@sonic lion you are giving him space to dodge my questions, please be mindful

[pallid ivy]

Why would you come to this conclusion?

[sonic lion]

I know, but it has to be wild to point the implication of your argument

[sturdy mango]

Hello people

any fight ongoing here

[sonic lion]

Ok I'm gonna kick out lol

[pallid ivy]

Hello there, welcome to our den of inquiry

[velvet laurel]

You are saying unnecesarry

[sturdy mango]

[pallid ivy]

Yes I am

[velvet laurel]

So

[gloomy frost]

Again your point is moral when you claimed it wasn't from a moral standpoint.
And
Define unnecessary harm? According to which metric?
There're many metric, first is nutrition/survival, second taste/pleasure
Third culture and traditions
Fourth alternatives.

[gloomy frost]

So you just wanted the dramatic effect knowing damn well that's not what I meant.

[pallid ivy]

You’re listing metrics, which is good that means you’re actually engaging.

So let’s use your own list.
If nutrition and survival are covered by plant‑based options, then killing animals for taste, pleasure, or tradition falls under unnecessary harm.

That’s all I’m saying.
You don’t have to agree, but you can’t pretend the categories don’t lead there.

[pallid ivy]

So if I were to tell you, you were engaging in unnecessary harm would it be good of you to continue to do so?

[velvet laurel]

No

[sonic lion]

yeah basically lol

[gloomy frost]

Why do they fall under unnecessary harm?

[pallid ivy]

so may I ask if you have considered the animals which get killed unnecessarily for you to eat?

[velvet laurel]

I am understanding wrong something?

[pallid ivy]

Because by your own metrics, nutrition and survival can be met without harming animals. Once survival is covered, the remaining reasons you listed

taste, pleasure, culture, tradition

are not survival needs.
That’s why they fall under unnecessary harm.
If a harm isn’t required for survival or health, then it’s unnecessary by definition.

[velvet laurel]

Oh It is vegan thing I tought you are talking about monetary

Like financial damage

[pallid ivy]

Yes we are discussing veganism, and the harm we do to sentient feeling animals for unnecessary reasons

[velvet laurel]

I see and I am not gonna argue about that

I am out

[pallid ivy]

Why not?

[gloomy frost]

If we ignore culture, taste, and tradition completely, then we’re only talking about survival and alternatives. But real world decisions rarely operate in that vacuum.

[velvet laurel]

It isn't important for me I don't care

[pallid ivy]

Real‑world decisions absolutely involve culture and taste. I’m not denying that. But those things don’t turn a non‑survival harm into a survival‑necessary one.

If a harm isn’t required for health or survival, then it’s unnecessary by definition. Culture and taste explain why people do it, not whether the harm is necessary.

[pallid ivy]

You said it wouldn’t be good of you to continue to do harm when you found out it was unnecessary.

[velvet laurel]

I'm out.

[pallid ivy]

Why? You can’t even stand on your own position you took

[gloomy frost]

You're operating from moral absolutism.
Understood. I don’t operate in a framework that ignores context, so I’ll leave it there.

[velvet laurel]

I tought you are talking about financial thing

[pallid ivy]

It’s not moral absolutism to say survival needs and cultural preferences aren’t the same category.

That’s just basic reasoning.

You’re free to step out if you want, but don’t pretend I ignored context. I used the exact framework you laid out.

[manic juniper]

Isn't it a net positive if we eat and hunt invasive species

And even make other products out of them, I've seen Australians make pots out of cat remains

[slender coral]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/p/DUiEhqyjKiw/?igsh=MXIydjZ0NHdqZHE2cA==

Guy proposed in staduim and later he got assaulted at his house.

[pallid ivy]

Managing invasive species is a separate issue from eating animals for taste or tradition. Ecologists focus on reducing ecological damage, not turning it into a justification for harming animals in general.

And extreme examples people bring up online don’t really help the discussion.
The core question is still the same: when harm isn’t required for survival or health, how do we justify it?

[pallid ivy]

Irrelevant to the conversation we are having, but I feel sorry for him.

[slender coral]

Sorry, I didn't realizs the convo hasn't ended.

What are you guys talking about?

[pallid ivy]

Phones, books, and art don’t require harming sentient beings. That’s the difference.

‘Unnecessary’ doesn’t mean ‘anything beyond survival is forbidden.’ It means: if something requires harming someone, and you don’t need that harm for survival or health, then the harm is unnecessary.
Enjoying art doesn’t require killing anyone. Eating meat does.

Indirect systemic harm isn’t the same as directly harming a sentient being when you don’t need to. I can’t live in a modern society without participating in some indirect harm nobody can.
But I can choose not to cause direct, unnecessary harm when alternatives exist.
That’s the difference.

[thorny steeple]

@slender coral bro the fuck is that pfp

This aint the bro I know

@thorny steeple yo frenzy

[pallid ivy]

Nobody can avoid all harm that’s not the standard. The ethical line is simple: avoid the harms you can avoid.

I can’t avoid every indirect impact of modern society, but I can avoid directly killing animals for taste.
Telling me to live in the woods is just admitting you don’t have a justification for the harm you choose.

Its not hard to understand

[thorny steeple]

I'm good pretty good wbu

[pallid ivy]

Pointing out the difference between avoidable and unavoidable harm isn’t extremism it’s basic ethics.

And calling me a hypocrite doesn’t answer the argument.

You say you’re pro‑veganism, but you’re defending unnecessary harm as a ‘choice.’

That’s not neutrality. That’s a moral stance.

Just own it.

There’s no false dichotomy. I never said ‘avoid all harm or it’s over.’ I said: avoid the harms you can avoid.

Harm‑reduction is exactly what I’m doing, reducing the avoidable, direct harm of killing animals for taste.

And yes: if a harm isn’t required for survival or health, then it’s unnecessary. That’s the ethical point I’m defending.

You seem to not be understanding at all

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[slender coral]

Some Muslim fundamentalist on Twitter said that a woman who puts perfume and doesn't dress modestly is harassing men, a Muslim girl responded with this art.

Her perfume is assaulting the guy.

[thorny steeple]

I take back my statement

Peak pfp

[verbal torrent]

Vov

[slender coral]

I love when art is used for progressive messages.

Traditional Muslims often hate art. They prohibit music, drawing, sculpting, and sometimes despise poetry.

[woven quail]

warning for everyone I don’t accept any Real Madrid fan in chill chat know your place

[wet flax]

why

[slender coral]

Go say that in chill chat 😭

[woven quail]

I did I’m just warning every Madrid fan

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-chronic-bachelor-innocent-angry-anger-gif-6438176421477802000

[wet flax]

hey im not

[woven quail]

Ok I thought

[shell hemlock]

Do people become vegan just to argue

[wet flax]

im for barcelona

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-eyes-eevvee-amazed-gif-12566593

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/messi-migue-granados-messi-inter-miami-gif-12323199198649451159

[manic juniper]

It's not justifiable, but if harming them improves the situation to the native species then I don't see why it shouldn't be encouraged, especially in places such as Australia where telling invasive species such as rabbits or even feral cows from native ones like potoroos or wombats is extremely easy

[pseudo flume]

Always a dehydrated piss colored username btw

[uncut tiger]

only thing that comes to mind from your color is Russia

[pseudo flume]

Stop objectifying a woman, it's disgusting

Atrocities on women will unite hindus and muslims

[crystal kayak]

Even me?

[woven quail]

Ure madrid fan!!!!

No wayyyyyyyy

[uncut tiger]

ngl i got da dark humor

[crystal kayak]

Don't you remember we already discussed it

[woven quail]

What’s this?

[woven quail]

Ok I accept u as an immigrant

[crystal kayak]

Never mind,I don't want to be near barca fans

[woven quail]

Off side

https://tenor.com/view/popcat-popcatsolana-popcat-solana-gif-9431961102219448683

[pseudo flume]

Humour is subjective

Tumor is permanent

Which is in Uranus

[crystal kayak]

Barca fans every year:This is our year the UCL will be ours.

[woven quail]

Guys

[woven quail]

Real Madrid should have a plan to how win against Barcelona

[pseudo flume]

In comment section users who appear to be Hindus based on username are glorifying punishment for drinking alcohol and having intimacy

[pseudo flume]

Ana mabarif arabi

[woven quail]

Well….

[trim veldt]

https://youtu.be/nWnarL2weHA

[woven quail]

It’s Hamas leader saying “isreal will be free with the help of Allah “ then the other man corrected for him said “Palestine not isreal “

[pseudo flume]

Ik what exactly he meant by "israel will be free"

[low oak]

Assalamu allaikum

[woven quail]

What?

[trim veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/kumud-gif-20031064

[pseudo flume]

Sholom

[low oak]

Am new to this server

[woven quail]

What’s that mean

[low oak]

Hi

[trim veldt]

#🫂｜beginner-chat

[pseudo flume]

Welcome to the gang, I hope you make good bonds here while improving English

[low oak]

Alr

[turbid dome]

Free Israel from the idea of existing in reality

[low oak]

Fr

[woven quail]

Nah

I don’t believe Hamas

[low oak]

God help u get what you want 👍

[woven quail]

Who

Ameen

[pseudo flume]

Unless it's K*rdistan

[low oak]

Am arab btw

[woven quail]

I’m Kurdish

[pseudo flume]

Mashaallah, kefak ya akh

[pseudo flume]

Get well soon

Martiniii is ex israeli, he lives in Bulgaria now

[low oak]

Meen byefhamni

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/mossagoy-muammar-gaddafi-libya-muammargaddafi-gif-5190062509090127025

[low oak]

Var var var var var var var

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-baby-laugh-laughing-laughter-gif-1709822885128234290

[woven pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-mandark-dexters-lab-haha-laughing-gif-15643250

[low oak]

How can i see my grade

[woven pewter]

Dedee

[turbid dome]

Also directly, in order to get it for a cheap price it uses child labor and often slavery in the Congo and sweatshop labor. Not to mention the environmental impact of the electricity it needs or the production process.

Killing an animal and eating it is much less bad than owning a phone in terms of environmental and human impact.

Whereas if I went and bought beef it would be made by some well paid (compared to the slave/child/sweatshop worker) guy in Texas, and while there would be an environmental impact it’s certainly not worse than making a phone.

[low oak]

Daaaaaaaaaaym

Thats why it took you so long

[turbid dome]

wtf

[fallow shard]

How's it in Bulgaria

[turbid dome]

Well the year is 900 and I’m preparing to bring my pack of horses to go sack Constantinople but idk if it’ll work

[turbid dome]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bulgarian_Empire

[fallow shard]

OHHH

How did u time travel

[near blaze]

It's easy

[turbid dome]

I saw some bulgar wheat

[near blaze]

Go to bed

[fallow shard]

Are you having ur first schizophrenia episode?

[pseudo flume]

Duck doesn't know what's Constantinople

He knows constipation

[turbid dome]

First? No

Jk

[fallow shard]

Give it to me

You've already enough problems

[turbid dome]

Yes he’s a native Turk so he thinks it’s Istanbul

[near blaze]

Constantinopole is on an incline

[turbid dome]

I’m joking

[pseudo flume]

Bluechew is working they say

[fallow shard]

No you're not

[near blaze]

Incline not decline

https://media.tenor.com/YUkTKRLbJ3wAAAAM/pillow-pad.gif

https://media.tenor.com/WGAocgoAYJ8AAAAM/recta.gif

[pseudo flume]

Incle

[turbid dome]

Incans

[pseudo flume]

Indonesian

[fallow shard]

Incel

[pseudo flume]

Ooh, i misspelt it

[crystal kayak]

This chat is predominantly Madrid fans.You should go back to chill chat

[turbid dome]

Infosys

[turbid dome]

Out cell

[fallow shard]

Are you dad?

[turbid dome]

Are you unable to tell? What a joke

[fallow shard]

Who's the lucky one

[turbid dome]

Lucky how

[fallow shard]

Shut up and answer me

[turbid dome]

Your mom

[fallow shard]

Keep her

Please

[pseudo flume]

Great lady she is

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[turbid dome]

No she has issues

[fallow shard]

Uh.. sure ig

[thorny steeple]

I need someone help urgently

[fallow shard]

Google

[pseudo flume]

@omar

[fallow shard]

You don't have choice

[pseudo flume]

How can we help you

[turbid dome]

I do

[fallow shard]

What's that

[turbid dome]

Leaving your mom

[woven quail]

Anyone knows about under world in Mesopotamia

[fallow shard]

[thorny steeple]

My freind she was angry on me cause my bad connection she thinks that was my fault she blocked me just left her masseges for me

[turbid dome]

What about over world

[fallow shard]

Can't help you, I ain't relationship therapist

[woven quail]

Under world

[turbid dome]

Nope

[woven quail]

Like under earth

[thorny steeple]

No i just want

@ripe remnant

[turbid dome]

Make sure to toss the guide voodoo doll in and you’ll be able to defeat the wall of flesh

[woven quail]

Knows as the “dead world “

[fallow shard]

Get yourself better connection

[thorny steeple]

I have but iwas not in home

[thorny steeple]

You should help me if your feminist

[woven quail]

According to the legends such as the Epic of Gilgamesh and Inanna's Descent to the Underworld. It’s a place when someone die they believed that their souls were going to there

[fallow shard]

😭 that's new kind of extortion but whatever. Best thing you can do is to apologise but since she blocked you, you can't really do it

[thorny steeple]

You can solve it just in one minute just tell her about me

[woven quail]

Inanna was the God of beauty justice and political power

[thorny steeple]

@fallow shard

[turbid dome]

Quite the mix

[fallow shard]

I'm not ur pigeon

[thorny steeple]

But your are human

[pseudo flume]

Subhuman

[fallow shard]

I'm not ur mailman

[thorny steeple]

What wrong if you will solve this just in one minute

[pseudo flume]

Don't waste your time king, move on

Don't be Martiniii

[thorny steeple]

I know

[fallow shard]

How possibly I could help, I'm not sending messages to randoms

[woven quail]

Basically they had God for everything for example “An” was the God of the sky

“Ereshkigal”was the God of dead world

[thorny steeple]

She is not random

[turbid dome]

Yeah just weird for beauty to also include political power lmao

[thorny steeple]

She will be ofline

[manic juniper]

Anunnakis 💛

[fallow shard]

Make new account and apologise

Simplest solution, she'd appreciate it more

[woven quail]

Yes An anunnakis

[thorny steeple]

Shut up

[pseudo flume]

Anubis

[thorny steeple]

I always not a feminist just because of this stupiditi

Making no sense

[woven quail]

Do u know what else they were believed that whoever have a lot of kids they were living a good and great life after they died

[thorny steeple]

Just debating stupid

[pseudo flume]

Be respectful to my white friends, you can be disrespectful to k*rds

[turbid dome]

Sounds a lot like Christians lol

[mint parrot]

[turbid dome]

Did Christians just steal from Mesopotamia

Classic

[pseudo flume]

Whites*

They even stole Christianity

[woven quail]

it was because their children would make sacrifices to the gods, and this would lead to the well being and comfort of the deceased person in the underworld.

And the kings would dedicate their own daughters to the temples to serve the gods.

[viral lintel]

did u infect my reels

[hidden shore]

Nope

[hidden shore]

I am not a simp like this

[viral lintel]

why are u still up at 3am

[hidden shore]

Because i am waiting you to send me messages

[turbid dome]

Oh weird

[sterile fractal]

Helloe

[slender coral]

Bonsoir

[thorny steeple]

What's going on in here

[fresh flower]

Supporting child labour

[sweet wolf]

signing this petition FOR child labour

[fresh flower]

Lowkey needs to make a comeback

Nowadays they just watch tiktok or they become gay

[thorny steeple]

Gimme the details

[fresh flower]

It's not that complicated

We support children working

The moment the mines closed it became tiktok, 67, asexuality (Code for I can't find a bf/gf)

[chrome acorn]

Thats kinda true

Children should work with moral people who works in industry

Even if its 2-3 months in a year

[fresh flower]

It's impossible here because of woke liberals, even the basic jobs for kids like delivering mail, babysitting, lawn mowing are more or less gone

They want them to study because "education leads to jobs" (We have 10% youth unemployment rate)

[gritty bobcat]

We always work if we dont the government will forces us

Or they will not send money to us

Maybe in ur country its different

[wet flax]

where u from?

[fresh flower]

It is, if you're unemployed here the government pays welfare

[slender coral]

Anarchism is the solution

[thorny steeple]

Define anarchism

[slender coral]

Abolish government something something.

[thorny steeple]

Bro

?def anarchism

[cursive bobcat]

Word: anarchism

Definition (noun): a political theory favoring the abolition of governments

Definition requested by logicd.zoro

[slender coral]

I guess Oli would like that as someone living in a country with high HDI.

[thorny steeple]

I will just live on a cruise ship

hopefully it will have a fallout bunker

And hot chicks

[slender coral]

Government should make a land for a free for all where there's no law.

[fresh flower]

I'm not unemployed I don't rp as an anarchist

[slender coral]

I'll make you my slave-femboy

[fresh flower]

Never met an employed anarchist

[thorny steeple]

There are such lands

Every government has to provide a place for outlaws

That's another way to control information

And people

[wet flax]

worse thing ever

[high raven]

There's a semiautonomous community like that in Denmark

Freetown Christiania, it's mostly druggies though

[thorny steeple]

Sounds like

Romani

[high raven]

Not that many Romani people in Denmark

Begging is illegal there

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀

Lowkey true though

They all settle in Sweden and Finland instead

[cerulean pivot]

Reviving the Swedish economy

Mashallah

[cedar stone]

hey guys

what's the hanging

[high raven]

How are things in Sudan?

[cedar stone]

i am in save place

thanks for asking

so you living in sweden

@high raven europe is my dream you gotta be grateful girl

[slender coral]

It's the dream of a lot of people.

Interestingly, many of them hate it so much.

[high raven]

Glad to hear that, I live in Norway, and yes it's a privilege

[cedar stone]

erling haland

lol

[cedar stone]

that's popular football player is from your country

[cedar stone]

so what is your major i am law students unfortunately

i really have to sleep local time here is 12 pm

goodbye guys

seeya

[chrome acorn]

Change my mind

Set the topic urself

Im bored

[gritty bobcat]

Live in germany

[wet flax]

nice ig

[gritty bobcat]

Why asking lol

[wet flax]

just to see the country, nothing else

[gritty bobcat]

Where u from

[wet flax]

algeria

i live in france tho

[fierce fox]

Hlo guysss

How’s its going to day?

I have a daily routine in every single day, in my country local time is 6 am and this morning i feel so bored

[raw nova]

Hey man me tio it’s similar

[woven pewter]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRyg9Rey/

[slim beacon]

i thght thid was the uk for a sec omh

[woven pewter]

Globally

[sonic lion]

why does everyone says this

about asexuality

everyone is desperate nowadays not hard at all to get laid

[turbid dome]

It’s not hard but it is hard to find someone who isn’t obnoxious ngl

[turbid dome]

Cause it’s a bit hard to fathom I think

(Aka I don’t understand it)

[sonic lion]

Exactly

[sonic lion]

Really?

It's not very hard to get it

Just ppl who don't feel sexual attraction

[turbid dome]

Yeah ik I just don’t get how you don’t lol

[sonic lion]

Just picture someone you don't find attractive

To ace people, everyone is that person

Not that strict but anyway

U get the idea

[turbid dome]

Yeah I understand a little bit ig

I mean I don’t like most people

But not all

[sonic lion]

Yeah I get it

But I hear this all the time yk that ace people "can't get laid"

Men who can't get laid call themselves incels and go around murdering women

[turbid dome]

Yeah idk, I knew one ace person and they could never really articulate why they just got repulsed by the idea

[thorny steeple]

Lmao for real😭

[sonic lion]

It's either repulsed or apathy

Its hard to articulate i guess

[turbid dome]

Yeah idk, I guess idk much about anything else because I’m in a very conservative environment, so idk either 😭 like I can theoretically grasp and support things like rights and stuff but I can never understand any of these things beyond the definition lol

[high rapids]

Hello Sir, How are you?

[sonic lion]

Thats because you don't feel it, it's totally fine

[turbid dome]

I'm doing fine I guess, not much going on

[high rapids]

I´m glad too hear that!

[turbid dome]

what's up with you

[high rapids]

I´m doing well thanks for asking. (I woke up 30 mins ago) 😅

[turbid dome]

it's 6pm for me lol

[high rapids]

for me its 1:38 am

[turbid dome]

why did you wake up

[high rapids]

Because I went to bed at 5 pm

[turbid dome]

that's early

[high rapids]

yes

[tiny apex]

What’s the countdown in your name for

[sturdy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[turbid dome]

Days until denial becomes a collaborator in the Chinese occupation of Minnesota (can be stopped if you rap)

[high rapids]

of Austria

I´m spying for the chinese goverment

[turbid dome]

W

[neat wigeon]

Hi

[thorny nexus]

BREAD 🍞

[neat wigeon]

Anyone to practice?

[muted mirage]

Yes, is my second day in this platform. I want to learn how to works.

[tiny apex]

If I rap can I arrange a deal where I can buy Minnesota and make it a new Somali region

[turbid dome]

Not with me but with china sure

[half fiber]

[sonic lion]

Unfair hierarchical systems only

Hierarchy always exist

[high raven]

Are there anarchists here lol

Would be funny

[turbid dome]

@sonic lion

[high raven]

@sonic lion Are you an anarcho-capitalist

That's the only one that makes sense to me

[turbid dome]

Is this sarcasm?

[thorny steeple]

Bro you read the whole chat or something

[steel heath]

How r u doing guys

[high raven]

I don't think so

[turbid dome]

Why do you think anarcho capitalism makes sense

[high raven]

As far as I know anarcho-capitalism is the only anarchist model that could realistically work in a large, complex society, because markets and private property actually scale, unlike the others. I don't see how you could have an economy in the others if you now wanted anarchy

It's at least feasible on paper

[deep zephyr]

People who doesn't vote because they think all candidates are incompetent shouldn't be shamed

[thorny steeple]

Oh my

[turbid dome]

I would argue it’s not even true anarchy to begin with, as anarchism is typically about dismantling hierarchy, whereas capitalism is very hierarchical. Without any government intervention in markets, the worst abuses we see of private corporations would only grow exponentially in both frequency and severity, as they only have to care about profit motive.

I think when compared to communities that rely on more communal living structures I would take the communal structure every time.

[thorny steeple]

People who wish every candidate should just die because they are nothing but corrupt scroundrels shouldn't be shamed.

[simple heart]

What do your name mean

ashura
does it mean demon?

[high raven]

That's my point, it's the only practical one out of the bunch, how would you scale communal systems?

I don't see how the others could sustain a modern economy, unless the point is to not have one

[turbid dome]

Yeah the point is sort of that consumerism is bad because of the environmental impact when we have finite resources. It’s a more conservationist approach, and making worker satisfaction and worker control more important than efficiency.

At least in socialist/communist circles, Anarchist circles I assume are similar

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[deep zephyr]

Death is easy..we can come up with worse punishment

[frozen cape]

how most view anarchism more often than not is a caricature of it

[high raven]

How? How would it hypothetically produce a strong economy without markets or incentives?

All of those could work in small communities, I don't see one that could scale in a society like anarcho-capitalism

[sturdy mango]

Hello

[deep zephyr]

This isn't the place to say hello. People come here to show their intellectual superiority or just plain dumbshit

[high raven]

Tbh it's either this or venting about religion

[sick bronze]

Hello!

[sturdy mango]

Let's make this chill chat

[sick bronze]

[deep zephyr]

Religion is responsible for 80% of this chat probably..it's the oxygen of this chat

[sturdy mango]

[deep zephyr]

True Muslims will fast. Those who don't observe fasting without any valid reason aren't Muslims. I'm gonna fast and I'm not even religious 😭

I belong to the group who's fasting because of peer pressure

[high raven]

We fast too, it starts a few days after Ramadan this year

[deep zephyr]

Lent?

It's so nice to see people are going out to vote with enthusiasm in my country. At the same time low-key worried they might vote for the ultra conservative 😭

[shell hemlock]

Is it lent

If you’re menstruating you don’t fast but you have to make it up after you finish

[cerulean pivot]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DUoYMc2CJP2/

Female Minecraft

[high raven]

Yes, it starts on the 23rd

Ramadan is 19th I think?

[cerulean pivot]

No

[shell hemlock]

17-18

[cerulean pivot]

Not necessarily after Ramadan

[shell hemlock]

No, it means you make up the day that you missed fasting

[high raven]

I need to add it to my calendar so I can start watching the new shows on MBC

[shell hemlock]

After you finish menstruation

[cerulean pivot]

The most fucked up shows oat

[shell hemlock]

I want to see what Cambodian Muslims are gonna be making for Iftar

[high raven]

Nowadays yes

Back in my days it was a new season of bab el hara

[shell hemlock]

You fast for equal amount of days

[cerulean pivot]

Um zaki died a few weeks ago
It's over

[stone cloak]

saw you in serious chat, i have seen enough

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[deep zephyr]

https://x.com/i/status/1899450562233750000

Kaiser the Hedgehog 🇲🇾🇳🇱❤️ 🇵🇸🇺🇦 (@Haris...

If you ever had a bad day during Ramadan, be thankful you didn't accidentally eat a shawarma with extra tahini along with an apple and 3 litres of water.

X · Mar 11, 2025, 1:21 PM

Absolute classic

[shell hemlock]

What did I do

Fuq you

[high raven]

That sucks, abu jawdat died a few years back too

[pseudo flume]

What could be the Unknown 'Marital status'

[stone cloak]

nothing, it was just a bad joke, don't mind it.

[stone cloak]

in a relationship, some other ships that exists but are not considered as married.

[pseudo flume]

We can categorize it in "others"

What's unknown

Must be agnostic, they never know shi

[stone cloak]

ig even they don't know relationship they are in, they sure are thoughtfull

[stone cloak]

frfr

[pseudo flume]

Sounds like E daters of English hub

[stone cloak]

[pseudo flume]

Still it won't be "unknown"

[uncut tiger]

@#🧠｜serious-chat we all low-key gay

[woven quail]

"I wish I were like a butterfly, living only for a season knowing only the flowers, far from the bitterness of this world."

[regal badge]

Leiwands Kino Oida

[regal badge]

Who is we

[shell hemlock]

been almost 2 months

[high rapids]

Selling drugs

[shell hemlock]

well i'm not gonna waste my time dating around without any goal

no, my fiance is of the same religion as me

[strong citrus]

👋🏻

[shell hemlock]

i threw up

[high raven]

Can you invite me to your wedding, I haven't been to an Asian one

I've only been to white people wedding, lesbian, Aramean and Muslim weddings

Mandean too actually

[shell hemlock]

lesbian

i like how it was casually mentioned in there

[high raven]

1997, it's when Ellen Degeneres came out

[fresh flower]

He's 16 that's before his time

[deep zephyr]

Spoiler alert : it'll be a Muslim wedding

[cerulean pivot]

Congrats sister
May Allah grant you success in your life and May your children be non chopped inshallah

[fresh flower]

Wait is Lily actually engaged

I thought bro was just joking idk why 💀

[shell hemlock]

Praying extra hard on that my children won’t be chopped part

[shell hemlock]

I’ve been saying it for like months 💀💀

[pseudo flume]

.

[mint parrot]

I also thought you were joking

[fresh flower]

Invite me to the wedding bro I'll bring dogs for the bbq

I remember you said you're half Chinese

[uncut tiger]

@shell hemlock assalamualaikum warehmatullahi wabarakatuhu

[broken lark]

live free or die what?

[uncut tiger]

BrBa S5

[broken lark]

dont kill me with your cryptic lines

[sweet wolf]

what are you bringing for the hot pot

[broken lark]

im out

[shell hemlock]

Waalaikumsalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

[uncut tiger]

Whaddup whaddup

[sweet wolf]

what's the correlation

[steady mango]

Hi there

[slim fjord]

d_s_6_

[prisma cipher]

This is what I hate about Russian stupid b. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSH6m6pjCzQ/?igsh=dnByazhwN2Q4MTA0 They were trying to make a trending video. A police officer came up to them and forbid I'm do that. Another police officer approached him and told him not to bother people. The girl had tears in her eyes. How boring must your life be, if such nonsense makes you cry. And also, stupid teenagers. I don't say police was right or something. what happens it just one second situation of misunderstanding that figured well.

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Lmao yes stupid b, you going to jail for jumping on red square

[feral river]

you don't need a modern economy to control everyone in your territory

[deep zephyr]

@pseudo flume are u following the election

[feral river]

all you need is shoot few rounds on the sky and execute all dissents

and you enjoy where you rule

[ruby scaffold]

I don’t know when it is Ai, tbh
https://youtube.com/shorts/lsZZt-i0Qhg?feature=shared

[hidden shore]

https://x.com/YEMENDEFENSA/status/2021628733640388637?s=20

Yemen Defense (@YEMENDEFENSA)

Worshipped in west, burned in Iran... 🇮🇷

X · Feb 11, 2026, 4:53 PM

that is even wild

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

[swift stream]

are yall talking about the epstien files

[hidden shore]

sacrifice kids for god i thoughts that only appears in movie

but it is so crazy that actually existed that shit in human history

[swift stream]

not god but for demons probably

[hidden shore]

humans practicing religions often is crazy

[swift stream]

i dont think so no

[wet flax]

genocide is attribued to humans, not a divinity

[swift stream]

what religion are you talking about here

[wet flax]

killed is also lawful taking life of someone

[swift stream]

islam or christianity

[wet flax]

God creates life, he has right to take your life also

[swift stream]

oh i havent gotta clue about that religion tbh

im muslim

[wet flax]

a dad doesnt creates life

[swift stream]

its more of humans free will and how they do crazy shit but you cant put the stick on god imo

[wet flax]

a dad 'works' in the creation by uniting the sperm with the egg, tho he isnt the one creating

[wet flax]

they love doing that

no, they united, not created

women eggs are made in the grandma, so is the grandma my mom?

it is just how life begin

no

parents doesnt creates, they unite its all u have to understand

[swift stream]

you cant compare humans with god dude

[wet flax]

real

[swift stream]

we are created to die

[wet flax]

genocide is a term for humans, not divine judgement

fallaciously ofc

[swift stream]

the bad shit that happens for example zinoists killing children is human free will

when they eventually die

[wet flax]

plus

[swift stream]

theyre going to have to answer for their consequences

[wet flax]

what is happening rn is why what God did in OT was good

[fresh flower]

Can you explain the holy trinity

[swift stream]

like u can think whatever u want deffo, but when u eventually die (since no ones immortal)

ur gunna regret what u thought off

[wet flax]

however they ask 'if God exist, why he doesnt do anything to stop wars?' but if God choose to act they'll call him a monster

[wet flax]

3 hypostasis in 1 essence

is a man wrong to destroy his robot he made?

[wicked owl]

Robot is not a human

[wet flax]

robot isnt a lfie tho

[wet flax]

ok so im not wrong to torture animals, they arent human

u dont understand my logic, it is the point

[fresh flower]

What differentiates the three if they're all of the same identical essence

[wet flax]

principles, monarchy of the Father also, one beget, one is begotten, one is proceeded

lol, it was ironic

[fresh flower]

You torture animals too if you're not vegan

Which I know you aren't

[wet flax]

it was very obvious bruh, he said 'they arent human' to me asking if it is wrong to destroy a robot i just made, dogs arent human, am i wrong to torture them then?

[fresh flower]

That's just in relation though

[wet flax]

they are different by their relations as they have princples that differ

tbh im lazy to debate

[fresh flower]

0 difference, it's just about wanting your hands to be clean

[wet flax]

so if you want to learn trinity read St.Augustine

[fresh flower]

Yes but if the differences are only in their relations, begetting or proceeding, does that mean they are not really distinct in themselves?

[fresh flower]

I'm not debating

[wet flax]

its relative

[wet flax]

i meant talking, or wtv

i just joined cause putting genocide term on a divine judgement is a fallacy

on what

its a term attribued to humans

[swift stream]

yall still going at it dang

[wet flax]

you dont say lions do a genocide if they kill a whole group

[swift stream]

respect

[wet flax]

do yk what genocide is also?

[fresh flower]

A real orthodox would say "It was worth it"

[wet flax]

it was lwk

[fresh flower]

Say it

Nothing wrong with that

[wet flax]

massacre isnt a genocide

my source? UN

genocide is a new term also

was made between 1945-1948 by the UN to clarify what was the holocaust

to put a class on the Shoah

send all the A

[fresh flower]

All Biblical genocides were justified and worth it

Why would it be wrong of a God to commit genocide against people who are wicked?

Standard practice

[wet flax]

fr

as if death is also an end

[fallow shard]

Extinction is better

God is not all good bcs he haven't done it

[wet flax]

'God is all good' is a stupid term

[fresh flower]

?
God is omniscient, he would know the consequences of every action. If he now did kill children, it would be because he know how they would grow up

[wet flax]

we should fear him also

[fresh flower]

You're claiming that God made a mistake by killing the children

[fallow shard]

Yea

God never were good

[wet flax]

real

[fallow shard]

What

[wet flax]

it reminds me a question

'would u go back in time, and kill hitler while he is a kid'

nope

[fallow shard]

If God knows what humanity is capable, shouldn't he just make us extinct bcs we're quite literally worst species

[fresh flower]

No it doesn't

[wet flax]

'stopping' the freewill doesnt contradict it's principles

[fallow shard]

Ohh

[fresh flower]

God’s foreknowledge doesn’t negate free will, he can know what choices people will make without forcing them. If he judged children because of what they would freely choose as they grew up, that preserves human freedom while maintaining divine justice

So if he killed children, it was Biblically lore accurate and justified

[gritty bobcat]

Aigh can we do what he doesnt know? Nope

[fresh flower]

What difference would it make if he knew the outcome?

[gritty bobcat]

Its pointless then why testing us

[fresh flower]

What

Bro forgot he has a cross next to his name

Because he's omniscient and would know who would end up being wicked

Yeah that's literally how it works

[shell hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/صباح-الخير-gif-10375226767980768907

[fresh flower]

His knowledge of a future event doesn't remove human responsibility or moral accountability

Wym special treatment

Even the innocents were struck

They were all gooked

Why would he though

To you yes

How do you know it doesn't all fit into the plans of an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent being

Just for you or him? Because according to the bible God's plans are inherently just because he's perfectly holy and morally perfect

[fallow shard]

He could do anything but chooses to let humanity to destroy itself, what is so hard to understand

[toxic lake]

God's and your sense of justice may not be the same.

[fresh flower]

You're confusing God being rational with what's logical to humans

I think most do, because what you said is a category error fallacy

Insufficient in design compared to Gods yes

No, the confusing finite human logic with infinite divine reasoning part

[shell hemlock]

Imagine a world where there’s good all the time and no wrong or right

[toxic lake]

Sadly human logic is flawed.
It even cannot evaluate the truth value of the statement "this sentence is false".
Plus you try to disprove unfalsifiable claim. It's impossible, man.

[toxic lake]

Heaven?

[fresh flower]

Are you gonna fast for ramadan bro

[shell hemlock]

On this earth

[shell hemlock]

Well… yeah

[fresh flower]

Marshmallow

Mashallah

[shell hemlock]

Marshmallow

[toxic lake]

I don't see why it cannot happen on earth tho.

[shell hemlock]

I don’t think humans would be humans if we didn’t have any flaws

[open oxide]

hello chat

what serious topic are we discussing?

[toxic lake]

Sort of

[open oxide]

im not a christian nor do i hate them so im not gonna get involved in this one

[fresh flower]

Finite humans can reason, observe and learn, which they do, since they study bible/quran/torah/whatever to explore truths so no I don't think it's foolish to discuss something you understand only a little of, kindof like how we discuss evolution in science class but ignore abiogenesis

[toxic lake]

That's true.
And Congratulations on your wedding, sis

[open oxide]

you guys enjoy

[fresh flower]

I think I get why they don't discuss their religion with you

Then why would religions push for science and invent the scientific framework

[toxic lake]

I don't think Science was created because of religion. It's created because people want to prove that they're right.

[fresh flower]

Doesn't matter, they invented the scientific framework to understand God's creation, look at Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Mendel

[fresh flower]

Not true, the scientific method was heavily influenced by religious thought

"Observation>Hypothesis>Reason" is literally a Christian assumption

My point is you wouldn't have it without religion

[toxic lake]

Is it tho because this is independent scientific discoveries in China in that era too.

[fresh flower]

From the article:

"Ideas regarding nature that were theorized during classical antiquity were not limited to science but included myths as well as religion. Those who are now considered as the first scientists may have thought of themselves as natural philosophers, as practitioners of a skilled profession (e.g., physicians), or as followers of a religious tradition (e.g., temple healers)."

[fresh flower]

Not the same, the scientific framework requires a scientific method, which the Christians pushed for because they assumed that they lived in a rational, law-governed creation where everything that could be observed had a reason

I never said science

I said the scientific framework and the scientific method, shitpost inquiries made by Greeks don't count

They believed in a geocentric universe, the four humors theory, the spontaneous generation theory, the elements theory, all of which Abrahamic religions systematically proved wrong

Both

Why? It makes perfect sense

They assumed that everything observable had a cause and a reason because their omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God made it

None progressed as much as Abrahamic religions though

It is if we're discussing methodology

"I believe in homunculus, I haven't observed it and systematically tested it but it's not pseudoscience"

For the worse yes, and if not then it would take many many more years because it would lack a fundamental, critical thing

They'd end up just like the current ones, based on Abrahamic reasoning

Wym maybe

Basic science is "This can be observed therefore it must have a cause and an effect"

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pssT3BEY_WI?si=RNnqoupsXyfscvta

these type of people does not represent ICE

ICE is friendly, responsible, and it is with the glory of contributing the great country of the United States of America

[fresh flower]

I don't, if everything is pointless why try to explain it

[feral river]

people should be proud of their ICE officer, not these asshs who would try to block an emergency vehicle

🇺🇸

[pseudo flume]

Which election?

[deep zephyr]

The one u commented about

[fresh flower]

Huh, so you have faith in something?

[pseudo flume]

Ooh, I'm not closely monitoring it, I did came across some reels

It was about the extremist party

[fresh flower]

Hmmm you BELIEVE there is a point to everything?

HMMMMMN????

[deep zephyr]

It's 96 to 32 so far

[fresh flower]

?def believer

[cursive bobcat]

Word: believer

Definition 1 (noun): a person who has religious faith
Definition 2 (noun): a supporter who accepts something as true

Definition requested by miominmio.

[dense pumice]

Epic logical jump

[sweet wolf]

wrong it's the song by imagine dragons

[fresh flower]

Well well well

[sweet wolf]

fix your bot, argument dismantled

goontenant general yuri out

[pseudo flume]

32 for taliban?

[deep zephyr]

Yes, their coalition. Not just em

[pseudo flume]

Isn't it concerning, i told you about it, but blud said they're irrelevant

Your country will get shagged by radical muslims

[shell hemlock]

My armpit is itchy

[pseudo flume]

Leader of taliban party said something like "working women are equivalent to prostitutes"

And many young people support his ideas

[deep zephyr]

Your country is already getting snagged by radical Hindus
Atleast our people are educated enough to not fall for their religious propaganda so far.
Out of 32, many were won by the party of students

[pseudo flume]

Ooh nevermind, you're brain dead nationalist

I was cretesizing your country, I also cretesize my country

But blud is smoking my country insted of understanding the issues

[deep zephyr]

I'm a nationalist who has never voted

[pseudo flume]

Dude it's really easy to brainwash a Muslim

[pseudo flume]

Wtf, lmao

[deep zephyr]

You're just being stupid who doesn't understand bengali people at all

There is a huge number of people who didn't vote today (awami league supporters)
If their party was eligible and they went to vote. Jamaat wouldn't even get 30 seats

Religion politics might work in india. It never worked well in bd

[small halo]

stupid name

[fallow shard]

Can't relate

[pseudo flume]

Man says shi like
modern environments (like co-educational schools) could lead to "moral degradation" for women

Anyway I'm lowkey greatful to not live in a Muslim majority country, alhamdulillah

[pseudo flume]

Yours?

[deep zephyr]

There's a belief, if u vote for someone and he does corruption and other bad shit. You'll be held accountable for their sins too

[pseudo flume]

[deep zephyr]

U live in something far worse

[pseudo flume]

Sure buddy

[fallow shard]

What rhe

[small halo]

Wdym my name is alpha woman coded

[fallow shard]

Me

[small halo]

Why would u be held accountable, bruhh

[pseudo flume]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DUGIAMXkS9Q/

This is the leader of my state

[deep zephyr]

Definitely u

[pseudo flume]

Eat a duck

[uncut tiger]

browns together strong

[deep zephyr]

U misspelled apes

[pseudo flume]

Not em all

[uncut tiger]

whats adonai

[pseudo flume]

Ezekiel 16:35 CJB

Google it

[fallow shard]

She seems smart

[small halo]

Umm isn't she the same person who ignored those r4pe cases basically and said girls shouldn't go out at night

[pseudo flume]

She is, in our region it's rare to have educated leaders
She got multiple degrees

[pseudo flume]

It was a longer clip she said it's not safe for girls (which is lowkey true)

Anyway, she should have made better laws n shi

[fallow shard]

It's good to have one every other century

[small halo]

It is but yk it's not true for every region . I mean u can be cautious and still go out plus she should educate the young ones how to behave also the grown ass men

[pseudo flume]

Yes, you're right