🧠｜serious-chat

[cerulean pivot]

She's just focusing on arabs to justify her feelings
I get it

[neon sierra]

@open vault north africa comes after tho

[neon sierra]

i didnt say they were right

[cerulean pivot]

Iraqi ?
MOSTLY IRAQIIIII !!!!!!

[neon sierra]

ok ok it came from iraq

[cerulean pivot]

ARE YOU FR

[neon sierra]

dont kill me

it came from iraq and syria

i just checked, north africans top the list 💀

[open vault]

Look if they did something bad to ur country I understand because Us Tunisian have that with the French

[neon sierra]

all north african countries are 1 2 3 4

[open vault]

[neon sierra]

I didnt know this 💀

[open vault]

😭

Seee

[neon sierra]

i am sorry but 👁️👄👁️

Tunisia is in the first place 💀

[open vault]

I am not one I swear

[neon sierra]

does that man i showed earlier look tunisian to you i wonder 💀

[open vault]

Yeah we lost a lot of people to that sickness

[neon sierra]

i will cry soon, thats actually said. I mean if ur not something u shouldnt be entitled to prove urself 😭

[open vault]

No comprehension

[open vault]

See

Imagine an arab person going through this everyday

[neon sierra]

fr i didnt know this 💀

[open vault]

May god be with them

[neon sierra]

and their victims 💀

[open vault]

Girllllll

[neon sierra]

would u say the same for jews

[open vault]

How old are u

[open vault]

Yes

[neon sierra]

17-1+3

[open vault]

19?

[neon sierra]

nice heart, i agree

yes

wth arab part as well

[open vault]

Where do u get this hate from

[neon sierra]

syria

isis

[open vault]

Yeah same for us

[neon sierra]

HOLA

i am in shock

why did you never tell

[open vault]

How can u talk with him like this

[neon sierra]

hey seem to have destroyed your reputation since all countries of the north is included 😭

he said he was waiting for the best time to

wait nvm

but i mean waiting for the best time to say

ok nvm

[open vault]

They ruined our reputation in tourism

[neon sierra]

oh wait it was only a reaction

[open vault]

In 2016

[open vault]

Yeah he only reacts

[neon sierra]

i only know one rlly sick story from Morocco, i was about to faint and all that fr.

hola dont be scared i dont bite

[rotund urchin]

well we have practiced many times to reach this level

[open vault]

Can u believe they used W and took them to the beach and K innocents Tunisian and tourists

[neon sierra]

[open vault]

Allah yarhemhom ou yaghfrelhom

[neon sierra]

whats W

wood…

[open vault]

I feel proud of myself

[neon sierra]

i saw like isis kill two women that were camping

[open vault]

No no W

[wet flax]

isis is garbage

[neon sierra]

they r first and then shouted yk what and killed them and tortured them before, let them watch each other

[open vault]

I am not using the full words because I fear they will ban the message

w=weapons K=killed

Tffff

[neon sierra]

ohh i see good thing

but w was hard to catch

[open vault]

Mister plz talk

U sound normal u got me talking to myself

[open vault]

Sorry my bad

[neon sierra]

they truly are, you should watch interviews that has been done with them

i am going to watch something or series now, it was nice talking to you ❤️ @open vault

[wet flax]

i saw bunch of videos of what they do, dont need more to have a biased opinion on them

[open vault]

U too byebye take care

[wet flax]

human itself is horrible

[neon sierra]

I see

[neon sierra]

thats what i am starting to think these days

but ive faith in God, and i put my trust in him

[wet flax]

me too, doesnt mean i cant say humans are corrupted

[neon sierra]

agreed

[wet flax]

just need to see what Daesch, M23, zionism, and others do to know humans are horrible

cant forget ICE that is a someway new SS

[neon sierra]

sad for the people of Iran as well

many people have missed out whats happening there

[wet flax]

too much horrible things happening in the world

blaming religion, ethnic, or anything wont help, the problem is us

humanity is absurd

[neon sierra]

i swear, and I dont wanna ignore a single one of them but my heart cant take more, imagine if i feel like this, how does it feel for them to be there. all of them

[wet flax]

i feel lucky to live in a modern country

however cant forget WW3 is very soon

[neon sierra]

people have lost the human in them, or maybe it is our nature

[high raven]

Limit your exposure to news, it helps a lot

[turbid dome]

formerly, now it's mostly Nigerian

[wet flax]

we are corrupted by nature

[neon sierra]

ik this is absurd, but i feel like i am disgusting for that idk why

[neon sierra]

they dont seem to be black

[turbid dome]

Though certain previous emirs of precursor organizations that share 3/4 letters are now in charge of Syria

[neon sierra]

do u think good dominates

[wet flax]

no

[neon sierra]

understandable

[turbid dome]

I mean ISIS west africa is the most significant group remaining

[wet flax]

world is corrupted by sin, this ontological disease is all over the world

[neon sierra]

oh i see

[turbid dome]

Right now they control a bit of nigeria and are fighting with the gov there I think

or maybe not idek at this point haven't checked up in a year

lol

[wet flax]

they control north-east mostly

[turbid dome]

got it

[wet flax]

abuja still controls nigeria

[neon sierra]

nigeria is christian in majority right

[wet flax]

yes

that's why isis wants nigeria, to eradicate christians

also a why christians are slaughtered by many and oppressed

[thorny steeple]

its the closest african nation to western civilization isnt it

[wet flax]

i'd say south africa is maybe the closest

[neon sierra]

extremists suck

[thorny steeple]

well south africa is white based

nigeria is all african

[wet flax]

south africa iis african british 😭

[wet flax]

literally

[high raven]

What happened to the Nigerian guy here who wanted to colonise Europe

[wet flax]

no idea

[neon sierra]

but i dont like islamophobes as well….

[wet flax]

tbh, i understand the hate, without agreeing with it

also needs to differ islam hater, and muslim hater, its not the same

[rotund urchin]

They sent him to a Diamond mine

[wet flax]

el gulag

[rotund urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Pz1XPojsIKpt6

if u have watched Blood Diamond u will get it ahaha

[neon sierra]

which one do you think is correct to hate of these aspecfs

[wet flax]

islam

[neon sierra]

i think the other one

muslims, and their actions, as a muslim

[wet flax]

hating religious is absurd, unless they are extremist

[neon sierra]

i agree

but the extremists destroy good reputation

[noble shore]

Ur still awake

[wet flax]

islam never had good reputation

through history, never had

[high raven]

Good movie!

[neon sierra]

uhm

[wet flax]

so i think islam hating is understandable, muslim hating is however, stupid.

[neon sierra]

i disagree

hating on islamism is understandable

but everyone is free to think whatever they want

i gtg

[wet flax]

islamism is just an 'ideology' created by west to discriminate extremism

as a term

in fact, a real muslim has to be extremist, since he has to follow the Qur'an, and hadith for sunnis

[neon sierra]

smh, thats your interpretation of islam

in quran it says religion should be balanced that extremism is not allowed

[wet flax]

did u read qur'an

its bunch of violent verses, laws, anything

[neon sierra]

i dont wanna debate you, i know my religion

you shall focus on your own

[wet flax]

i know yours aswell

[wet flax]

i do, dw.

[neon sierra]

you don’t know, you interpret it

in the way you want to understand

[wet flax]

then muslim doesnt exist ?

[neon sierra]

the message is actually clear yet if u think it motivates violence then keep that opinion to yourself

[neon sierra]

muslim is one who commits himself to God

I am done.

[wet flax]

muslim by def of followers of islam, not that def

just need to read al-tawbah, but whatever

free to all ig

[wanton basalt]

Hi , anyone living in

Spain , Slovenia , Portugal , Netherlands , Hungary , Malta one of this countries

People who don't know anything about Islam, stay silent because there will be people who can make u like a kid and u won't be able to answer them and u be like dumb no need to put yourself in this stupid situation

[wet flax]

cant disagree, its irrelelant on the topic though

[wanton basalt]

Do not attempt to insult any religion or beliefs, especially Islam, because we are prepared to defend our religion to the death.

[wet flax]

what is blud on

[wanton basalt]

So, respect us and we will respect you, and that's the end of it.

[high raven]

Not sure what you want to ask but does Norway count?

[neon sierra]

this is not a war zone

calm down and as u said ignore

[wet flax]

i dont need respect tbh, i have God

[wanton basalt]

I'm really calm , im not doing anything for anyone, just warning

[wet flax]

and what will you do after warning ?

you're on discord, dont forget that

[wanton basalt]

Bro, im advice u

Don't put yourself in a position where others step on your head.

Just respect others, because your lack of interest in being respected shows that you want to be insulted.

[wet flax]

however, i said i respect muslim, i dont for islam, youre just irrelevant

[wanton basalt]

I won't do anything to you, but I assure you there are those who are ready to trample you if you insult their religion.

[wet flax]

yeah killing, sound fair, words against life

[wanton basalt]

Okay, so everything is fine, I'm speaking generally.

[wet flax]

fair

[wanton basalt]

We do not kill anyone simply because we disagree with them, but we are prepared to defend ourselves and our religion if someone attacks us.

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/disc-golf-throw-gif-11284725

[wet flax]

history says otherwise, one guy in my country got killed bc he said Muhammad wasnt a prophet

[wanton basalt]

My religion commands me to respect everyone, even forbidding me from cutting down a tree simply to cause damage to the area.

[wanton basalt]

I know people who have attacked others simply for wearing a hijab.

Don't be dumb; when someone does something contrary to my religion, don't blame my religion.

[wet flax]

not worst than stonning women bc they dont wear it, dont u think ?

[wet flax]

you said 'we', im just pointing on what u point also

[wanton basalt]

Who told you that my religion commands me to kill someone because he doesn't wear a hijab?

I don't care who claims to be a Muslim but does the opposite of what Islam commands.

If my religion forbids me from killing an innocent person, and someone claiming to be a Muslim kills an innocent person, should we blame Islam?

[wet flax]

im not talking abt any quranic verses, im talking about the people, as you do

[manic juniper]

Where

[wet flax]

france

[wanton basalt]

Yes, I don't deny that there are people who claim to be Muslims who do such things, but it's foolish to say that Islam is the cause.

[manic juniper]

Ashur?

[wet flax]

if i remember well, yes

[wanton basalt]

If we're talking about France and how wonderful it is, France tested its nuclear bombs on Algerian Muslims.

[neon sierra]

where does it say u should stone a woman for not wearing a scarf

smh where did u get these from

[rugged gyro]

Always islam in this chat

[wet flax]

i just said i wasnt talking abt quranic verses 😭

[manic juniper]

What does that have to do with killing some random Syriac immigrant in France

[wanton basalt]

Haha this is my first time 🤣

Let's just put it simply, friends

[rugged gyro]

Alhamdullilah brotha try not to get muted

[wet flax]

france did horrific things on my people, yes, and ? (im algerian i live in france tho)

[wanton basalt]

Islam commands us to respect everyone and not to harm others simply because they are not Muslim.

Anyone who claims to be a Muslim but acts contrary to Islam does not represent Muslims because they have not followed the commands of Islam.

We don't blame the knife maker because someone used the knife to kill someone; we blame the knife user for killing others.

[wet flax]

no one's saying that, however the exemple is bad, we blame the convictions aswell

but i dont think anyone's act should make hate on the religion, i agree

[wanton basalt]

In short, don't blame Islam if Islam commands the opposite of that action.

[high raven]

Not to sidetrack the convo but it's funny to see someone talk about peace while having Abu Obaida pfp 😭

[wet flax]

rs

[high raven]

That's like me having a pfp of Samir Geagea while condemning war crimes

[wanton basalt]

Abu Obaida is just one example of resistance for a people deprived of their freedom.
Abu Obaida would not exist if there were no occupation.
So don't speak nonsense.

[neon sierra]

you contradict yourself here, why? because you said that a “real muslim has to be extremist, since he has to follow the Qur’an, and hadith for sunnis” according to you they are already acting accordingly to islam in the first place

[wanton basalt]

Do you think I would want peace with the murderer of my friend or family?

[wet flax]

Abu Obaida would not exist if there were no occupation.
tf is this excuse, its like me excusing nazism bc, without threaty of versaille, no nazism, so let's blame france for creating nazism

[wanton basalt]

Excuse me, are you stupid?

Why would there be resistance if there were no occupation?

Why would there be a hospital if there were no patients?

[wet flax]

a real one, yes, that's why shariah laws exist, i dont blame muslim but 'their interpretation' eh, like you blame my knowledge on islam

[wanton basalt]

Please, please, please, enough with the stupidity

[wet flax]

yes, its a stupid excuse you said

so just, shut up if it is for saying stupid exemple and excuse like that

[wanton basalt]

Why would there be resistance in Algeria if there was no French occupation?

[wet flax]

respectfully

it doesnt matter much of 'why it exists', but that it does (did) exist, and the acts committed

or comitting

[wanton basalt]

Abu Obaida is a hero to me

I see him as a strong and beloved example

[wet flax]

then free to you

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, you don't understand that Abu Obaida is not a bad thing.

It is something that emerged as a response to the occupation and oppression of the people.

[wet flax]

im against any form of violence, no matter the conviction behind it

[wanton basalt]

Please contact Netanyahu and tell him to return the Palestinian people's land that he stole.

[neon sierra]

what do you think of the attack that carried 7 october? @wanton basalt

[wet flax]

im anti zionist bruh

do it yourself

mesopotamia countries yap a lot abt zionism but do not do anything for helping

[wanton basalt]

I hope someone comes and robs your house and kills your mother, and then I want you to speak to him gently so he will return your mother and your money.

[wet flax]

thanks !

[wanton basalt]

Don't forget, you must be kind to him.

You are against violence, whatever the reason.

Even if it meant killing thousands of people and stealing and destroying thousands of homes

Even if the reason is starving children

[wet flax]

humans have the same values, why would i kill someone for something absurd ?

you yap abt israel, but you dont do shitt

as all arabs countries

[wanton basalt]

Do you think that a rapist and a good person have the same value?

[wet flax]

in the eyes of God, yes

[wanton basalt]

Hahahaha

[wet flax]

you cant be talking abt rapist tho

[wanton basalt]

God sees that bad people have less value than good people.

[wet flax]

your god*

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, you are comparing good and bad at the same value.

[chrome acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1185172733013794917.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=galaxybrain

[sturdy mango]

What is ongoing here 😭

[wanton basalt]

Do you believe that the rapist and the victim have the same value?

[wet flax]

btw, ty for the ss, would be a +1 in my muslim words files

[sturdy mango]

No wtf

[wanton basalt]

Do you think that the thief, the rapist, the murderer, and the victim have the same value

[wanton basalt]

If someone killed your mother, would you say to him, "Please bring my mother back," or would you kill him?

[wet flax]

again, infront of God, yes they have the same value, God doesnt do favoritism, everyone is his creations

[wanton basalt]

Do you think God is unjust to make the value of the killer and the victim equal?

[wet flax]

killing the murderer wouldnt change anything, its just pure humanity, as corrupted

[wet flax]

no

[sturdy mango]

Wtf bro 💀

[wet flax]

anger doesnt equal violence, you misunderstand everything

[wanton basalt]

She says you shouldn't kill someone who has killed tens of thousands of people.

[wet flax]

i do

[neon sierra]

do yall believe in the principle of that the devil affects the way you think

[wet flax]

we believe some thoughts are inspired by the devil, yes

[turbid dome]

@slender coral controls the world

[wanton basalt]

She wants me to be nice to a child killer.

[chrome acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[wet flax]

i didnt say to be nice, just not to kill him

[wanton basalt]

Imagine saying to a thief, "Please return my money," instead of defending your property.

[sturdy mango]

Well just ignore

[wet flax]

illiterate ass

[wanton basalt]

He is a murderer; a murderer must be killed.

[wet flax]

would make you a murderer

[wanton basalt]

Imagine that over 100,000 people were killed on the orders of one person, and you don't want people to kill him.

[high raven]

This just creates another murderer

[wet flax]

he'll get punished by God, i have no rights to do anything

[wanton basalt]

No, because I simply took what belonged to other people.

Why does he kill others and survive?

[sturdy mango]

In my opinion there should be a balance with justice , always peace is not a solution

[thorny steeple]

allow me to demonstrate

problem solved

[wet flax]

survive, and being in jail. not saying he should be free

[thorny steeple]

😄

[wanton basalt]

Forgiveness always leads to an increase in crime rates.

[neon sierra]

all humans are equal in God’s eyes(depends on the aspect). For example the door of repentance is open for all.

[wanton basalt]

If I were a ruler, I swear I would cut off the penis of every rapist. 🤣🤣🤣

[analog rose]

Hello

[turbid dome]

It's quite a simple concept, reconciliation cannot occur if one does not want to reconcile with what they do. If someone steals your home, then your neighbor's home, and another neighbor's home, and your new home, you cannot simply negotiate them away. You must either detain or get rid of them by whatever means necessary. If someone does not wish to give the stolen property back, but has dispossessed a people, then it must be taken back or it is enabled again.

[sturdy mango]

Make sense

[wet flax]

no wonder youre not a ruler

[wanton basalt]

When someone rapes you, I'll see what your condition will be like.

When someone rapes your child, you'll understand what I mean.

[wet flax]

you think rapes is only by penis ?

holy ignorance then.

[neon sierra]

Who is the most honored?
Allah's Answer: Those who forgive when they have the power to take revenge. - A famous story from Islamic tradition (found in Sahih Ibn Hibban 6352) describes Prophet Musa (Moses) asking God about seven specific traits of people

[wanton basalt]

I will punish him according to his actions.

[sturdy mango]

That's not the way.... You explain someone

[neon sierra]

Who is the most God-fearing?
Allah's Answer: Those who remember and do not forget.
Who is the most guided?
Allah's Answer: Those who follow the guidance.
Who is the best in judgment?
Allah's Answer: Those who judge people as they would love to be judged themselves.
Who is the most knowledgeable?
Allah's Answer: The scholar who is never satisfied with their knowledge and seeks to learn from others.
Who is the most honored?
Allah's Answer: Those who forgive when they have the power to take revenge.
Who is the richest?
Allah's Answer: Those who are pleased (content) with what they have.
Who is the poorest?
Allah's Answer: Those who desire more than they need (the seventh trait Musa found challenging).

[wet flax]

cutting his penis wont make him unable to grape a woman.

[neon sierra]

i understand ur pain

[wanton basalt]

No one would even think of approaching any girl

[neon sierra]

ive seen kurds wishing the same upon arabs these days bc of what is happening, but it is not right to wish such things upon people

[thorny steeple]

tbh you dont want to be touched by his fingers either

[wet flax]

i know

[thorny steeple]

i would rather remove them entirely

[neon sierra]

a rapist doesnt belong in the society

[wanton basalt]

The existence of severe punishment makes everyone think twice before committing a crime.

[wet flax]

sure, as you are in every rapist's mind

[wanton basalt]

If the punishment is imprisonment and a fine, this will not stop crimes.

[neon sierra]

put him behind bars

[toxic lake]

That's obviously false. There is still crime even in countries that have capital punishment.

[sturdy mango]

That teaching doesn’t apply in every situation
Islam distinguishes between personal forgiveness and collective self-defense.

Forgiving when you have the power refers to personal wrongs, not to abandoning the defense of lives, dignity, or a community under attack.

the Prophet ﷺ and the early Muslims did not initiate violence. When the Quraysh of Makkah attacked at Badr, Uhud, and later battles the Muslims defended themselves

[gritty echo]

It s about physiology not just only about sexuality

[neon sierra]

Yes defensive war is allowed

but you shall keep these in mind

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, there must be a deterrent punishment.

[neon sierra]

it takes a huge heart to forgive

[chrome acorn]

Kill the killer, cut the burglar= no more crime

[wanton basalt]

Believe me, if there were a deterrent punishment, crimes wouldn't be so widespread.

[neon sierra]

if you lock them in forever

they wont be able to r thru the wall

[chrome acorn]

They get free food, safety, warmth

[wet flax]

crime will always exist if humans exist

[wanton basalt]

That's not enough; the punishment should be stronger.

[chrome acorn]

Burden for the government

[wet flax]

safety ???

[sturdy mango]

Forgiveness is personal choice, justice is a collective obligation

[neon sierra]

thats how you keep them alive so

[wet flax]

rapist are the most killed people in prison

[wanton basalt]

That's true, but there's a difference between one crime every day and a thousand crimes every day.

[chrome acorn]

Better then neighborhoods

[neon sierra]

yes and and the way you bring justice is a personal choice as well

[neon sierra]

good

[gritty echo]

In my opinion they have to be worked under such heavy jobs

[chrome acorn]

There is no point to do that to everybody

[gritty echo]

Like mining

[neon sierra]

sounds good too, but not in a way that hurts them

[sturdy mango]

the form of justice is regulated, not purely personal

[chrome acorn]

If you kill the killer, population of prisons would decrease

[toxic lake]

https://tenor.com/view/gulag-joseph-stalin-gif-1303406357648712159

[gritty echo]

Yeah like that

[wet flax]

killer rate wont decrease though

[gritty echo]

Thing is taking everything from their life and making them just robots working for economy

[chrome acorn]

It certainly will

[toxic lake]

What is wrong or right is still subjective thus personal.

[wanton basalt]

Logically, it will decrease

[wet flax]

no

[chrome acorn]

Dont assume, look at saudi arabis

[wet flax]

1 -1 + 1 still equals 1

[chrome acorn]

Or afghanistan

[sturdy mango]

Moral feelings may be subjective, but justice cannot operate that way

[chrome acorn]

Their crime rate is almost non existant

[neon sierra]

if you going to torture them, kill them already

[turbid dome]

this, studies have consistently shown harsh punishment doesn't deter crime for a few reasons, people expect they won't be caught, or they already had nothing to lose anyways

[wet flax]

they dont count themselves as killer, but a human killing an another human is a killer

[neon sierra]

torture itself is a sin

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, my friends, soon I will be a ruler and I will impose the harshest punishments for all crimes.

[chrome acorn]

Im gonna sleep dawg

[sturdy mango]

Puppets of zionists

[wet flax]

yes go, think abt your stupid way of thinking

[chrome acorn]

Kill the killer, cut the burglar = no more crime

[chrome acorn]

Shut your disgusting mouth up

[wet flax]

😆

[neon sierra]

it is a repeating cycle, cant you see?

[wet flax]

cry me a river

[toxic lake]

Justice needs rules. And those rules are selected by what should we do aka moral.

[chrome acorn]

Of course but look at the crime

[neon sierra]

where are u going to rule

[chrome acorn]

Thats the only solution

[sturdy mango]

those rules are informed by moral reasoning

[chrome acorn]

We need sharia law in our countries

[wanton basalt]

It is not fair to let the killer live.

It makes no sense to treat the killer kindly.

It is not natural to say, there should be no violent reaction to violence.

[chrome acorn]

Not a desire, a need

[neon sierra]

you say kill the killer, what becomes of the one who kills the killer?

[chrome acorn]

Executer

[wet flax]

'a hero' according to him

[turbid dome]

There's issues with comparing crime rates between countries. For example in Saudi Arabia rpe is defined differently than in Sweden. This difference makes more things count as rpe in Sweden than Saudi Arabia, as an example. This means that things which could be criminal in one place could be legal in another, not to mention crime reporting varies in honesty and transparency. Saudi Arabia does have a fairly good economy for Saudis, non citizens are another issue as they're systemically disadvantaged. Crime is often linked to poverty, so this could explain why there's a lower crime rate there.

[chrome acorn]

Thats a full time job bro

[wanton basalt]

Every action has a reaction; the reaction to violence is violence.

Don't think that if you hit someone every day and he will stay silent, one day he will fuck you, haha.

[wet flax]

stupid way of thinking, if a human end someone's life, he is a murderer, no matter what the victim did

[toxic lake]

That's very bad. Because they will escalate the crime to escape punishment. e.g killing witness to avoid punishment from stealing stuff.

[sturdy mango]

And there is life for you in Qisās, O people of understanding, so that you may become righteous.

[neon sierra]

if ur enemy is captured and he gives up you can let him live, “dont kill thise who surrender”

[neon sierra]

Qisas exists

[wanton basalt]

All the world

[neon sierra]

but forgiving does so as well

[sturdy mango]

That's what I'm saying

[sturdy mango]

Again , personal

[neon sierra]

if u do not forgive, dont forget, there will come a day where u will beg for forgiveness as well

[chrome acorn]

All saudis are multi billionaires you think?

[wet flax]

we saw through history full of evidence that reacting violent against violence would just be chaotic, we saw that in the both world war, and cant talk abt nuke

[neon sierra]

i didnt say what u were saying is wrong

[frozen cape]

Crime is reportedly differently in Sweden if they did it the same way as other countries they'd have lower stats

[wanton basalt]

Their punishment will be extremely severe, beyond their imagination.

[neon sierra]

i said see the importance in forgiveness

[toxic lake]

How do we know what is moral?

[turbid dome]

No but most have their needs met.

[high raven]

Damn I tabbed out for a few and the person who was speaking about peace is now on world domination

[sturdy mango]

Its when personal issues

[neon sierra]

will you imprison those who opposed you here as well

[toxic lake]

That's why they will do whatever to avoid them.

[high raven]

Discordia™ moves too fast

[toxic lake]

Including murder

[neon sierra]

it exists in the rules of war given by our prophet saw as well

[wanton basalt]

Only those who make a mistake will be punished, not just those who disagree with me.

[chrome acorn]

I dont study criminology but crime rate isnt linked to poverty in my opinion. There is a correlation of course but its something very digfereu

[sturdy mango]

Humans can recognise it 💁🏼‍♂️

[neon sierra]

isnt this extremism?

[wanton basalt]

Even though you're a tomato, I'll listen to you and I'll definitely think about becoming a better ruler.

[turbid dome]

That's also true, countries which are more transparent look worse. Argentina for example reports poverty stats more honestly and that leads to large poverty numbers. It's not that they're uniquely poor, just that they're more honest about it

[wanton basalt]

I will not punish anyone for disagreeing with me; I will only punish those who make mistakes.

[toxic lake]

Not all humans agree on what is moral. For example, Christian believe in Jesus is moral but Islam is netrual on that.

[neon sierra]

isnt mistakes in human nature, you can make mistakes as well and what if your choice of words now one of them?

[wanton basalt]

I don't care about describing things with words like terrorism and extremism, etc. These are just words invented by the West to try to insult their enemy.

[sturdy mango]

Forgiveness applied to those who surrendered or after hostilities ended, not during active aggression

[wanton basalt]

Certainly, but there is a difference between each mistake.

[neon sierra]

but ignoring them results in blindess as well to the existing

[neon sierra]

true

[wanton basalt]

Wdym

[neon sierra]

you shouldnt kill children old people and u have to be good to the prisoners

[high raven]

Wait what do you call it then

[neon sierra]

the existence of the word extremism

[sturdy mango]

Islam affirms Jesus as a Prophet
the disagreement here is about his status, not his morality

[wanton basalt]

Yea, im not going to do that already

[neon sierra]

it was to epic horsey, i forgot to tag

[wanton basalt]

I will need to work very hard to make myself a great ruler

[toxic lake]

so following Jesus's gospel is moral according to Islam?

[wanton basalt]

Don't worry, I will do my best to achieve justice and I will grant the right to free expression, but there will certainly be limits. But it's not like if you speak ill of the ruler you get imprisoned, haha.

[neon sierra]

is jesus gospel preserved?

[shy summit]

Then you don’t have free expression

[neon sierra]

still not free speech

[neon sierra]

exactly

[wanton basalt]

Insulting others, for example, is not freedom of expression.

[toxic lake]

Christian say so.

[wanton basalt]

Insulting other people's religions is not freedom of speech.

[neon sierra]

unfortunately it is, since one has its right to express themselves

[wanton basalt]

You have the right to disagree, not to insult.

[toxic lake]

It is. Moreover how do you else know what is true religion, mate?

[turbid dome]

https://www.okjusticereform.org/blog/how-poverty-drives-violent-crime poverty absolutely drives crime, if you needed food for your family and had no other option wouldn't you do whatever necessary for it?

Freedom of expression is specifically for the speech you hate and dislike the most.

[wanton basalt]

Insulting others is an attack on others and causes hatred.

[shy summit]

It, by definition, is

[high raven]

Very vague, what would constitute an insult would be very subjective

[sturdy mango]

Earlier prophets brought valid laws for their people and time, but with the final Prophet ﷺ, a complete and universal system was given

So Muslims respect and believe in all prophets, including Jesus, but we follow the final law brought by Muhammad.

[wanton basalt]

I don't care what expression European rulers use to justify the destruction of nations.

[sturdy mango]

[wanton basalt]

I will prosecute anyone who insults others. You can discuss and refuse to follow something, but you do not have the right to verbally or physically assault someone.

[sweet wolf]

minor disagreement

[shy summit]

Okay but you’re objectively wrong about the concept of the definitions you’re purporting

[high raven]

Odd way to say assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

[neon sierra]

simply saying “that ruler sucks” is an insult, you dont have to use slurs to insult either, “that ruler made our country in the top 5 countries with the dirties water and street hygiene” could be an insult too. One has is right to express hatred in such ways if there is free expression

[wanton basalt]

If someone insults me because I'm Muslim, I will hate and hit them, but if they simply say, "I don't think your religion is true," then everything is fine.

[shy summit]

Like. It’s one thing to have an opinion. It’s another to be wrong and ignore when you get called on it.

[tiny apex]

What counts as an insult

[neon sierra]

ive a question

[turbid dome]

L cool cat

[shy summit]

No one here is insulting you for your faith?

[tiny apex]

W cool cat L martiniii-_-

[wanton basalt]

No, this kind of talk is allowed, but a topic like religion would be a red line.

[neon sierra]

if one says islam is the religion of the de*vl, would you let him say that, yes or no @wanton basalt (astagfirullah btw)

[turbid dome]

Insult therefore dead

[shy summit]

If anything it’s your contradiction of terms of what you constitute as free speech,

Like your religious figures are not above reproach or critique.

[high raven]

What if it was a peaceful protest where a protestor burned a Bible or lets say a Quran

[sturdy mango]

Peanuts

[wanton basalt]

This breeds hatred among people, so I will not allow it and its punishment will be severe, regardless of whether it is about the Quran, the Torah, or the Bible.

[shy summit]

If I want to critique the historical actions of the prophet Muhammad, I can. If I want to critique the myth of Jesus’ miracles I can.

[toxic lake]

universal? then why use human language at all? words' meaning change all the time.

[turbid dome]

Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party — though they are quite numerous — is no freedom at all. Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. The essence of political freedom depends not on the fanatics of 'justice', but rather on all the invigorating, beneficial, and detergent effects of dissenters. If 'freedom' becomes 'privilege', the workings of political freedom are broken.

Rosa Luxemburg

[neon sierra]

@wanton basalt

[high raven]

Jail? Death?

[sturdy mango]

means applicable across times and cultures,
even though it’s expressed through language.

[wanton basalt]

You can say that you disagree with an action, but there will be limits in both words and actions because this is a very sensitive topic.

[tiny apex]

But how much is too far like when does an insult or critique become too much

[wanton basalt]

I will not imprison him

[shy summit]

Yes. For example I can critique the spread of faith through systemic, cultural, violence. I can speak on ignorant behaviors faith itself promotes.

[neon sierra]

wow, thats actually a good answer bc with that u prove your mercy

[wanton basalt]

I will make him apologize in front of everyone, along with a prison sentence, and if he repeats this, I am prepared to exile him from the country.

[neon sierra]

if u said yes i was abt to ask if your stance would be the same for judaism

[toxic lake]

No, I mean if god want the rule to be timeless, they wouldn't use human language because the meaning change thus lead to misinterpretation on their rules.

[wanton basalt]

If you are talking about Islam, your information is incorrect, and yes, you can say that you disagree with some things in the beliefs of others.

[shy summit]

I speak on all religion generally.

So what’s the problem

[wanton basalt]

Yes, I understand you. You have the freedom to follow your religion and practice your rituals; this is a guaranteed right in Islam. I have no right to force someone to convert to a religion they do not want.

[sturdy mango]

Guidance must be understandable, so it uses human language
timelessness comes from preserved meaning, it doesn't come from frozen words.

[wanton basalt]

So it can be said that you do not believe that religion is spread by violence, and indeed this is something I and Muslims believe.

[shy summit]

So what’s the issue.

[turbid dome]

What if I said that historically religion was spread by violence

[shy summit]

You act as though you’re being persecuted in this conversation

[wanton basalt]

There's no problem, as I said, you have the right to say that you don't believe in the validity of any idea whatsoever.

[sturdy mango]

Topic started from , "to forgive a murderer or rapist"

[wanton basalt]

What religion are you talking about? lol

[turbid dome]

Generally

[wanton basalt]

You have the right to say that, yes.

[toxic lake]

No, guidance doesn't need to use human language. The data can be transferred by electricity, DNA, hormone etc. Since god can do anything, god can just talk directly with us if they really want to us to be moral.

[turbid dome]

What if I said it about a specific religion

[shy summit]

I have the right to say pretty much anything

[sturdy mango]

Direct compulsion wouldn’t be morality , it would be programming.

[shy summit]

Hence. Free speech.

[wanton basalt]

Ultimately, your information may be right or wrong, and what's important is to maintain respect when discussing it with anyone.

[toxic lake]

How so?

[sturdy mango]

Morality only exists when humans understand, choose and are responsible

[wanton basalt]

Yes, but as I said, the most important thing our relationships should be based on is respect. Anything that makes others feel insulted should be minimized as much as possible.

[toxic lake]

then is it moral to force the child to do the homework or force anyone to be moral at all?

[high raven]

Slippery slope to think like that but I understand where it's coming from

[rugged gyro]

I thought horsey was staying away from serious chat for few days

[high raven]

I personally wouldn't mind someone burning religious scripture, I'd even help them if it was baby Rudin

[rugged gyro]

Got excited for no reason

[sturdy mango]

You are such a tomato brain
it’s about building capacity until they can choose responsibly on their own

[glossy ether]

sannaaa

[turbid dome]

Use the apostrophe to respect Yemen

[wanton basalt]

For me, there are many who object to this, such as Muslims, and it makes Muslims want revenge, and this causes many problems, so we don't want problems.

[sturdy mango]

Chinka

Chimka

[high raven]

Konnichiwa!

[glossy ether]

wtf

[sturdy mango]

Dumbass

[glossy ether]

Salam alaikum!

[turbid dome]

Sanna doesn’t exist, only Sana’a

[glossy ether]

holy yappacchino

[wanton basalt]

If someone were to insult my family or my religion, I would automatically want to take revenge on them.

[high raven]

I know lol, there were riots in Sweden when someone burned a Quran

[neon sierra]

but especially as a ruler, you should not

[rugged gyro]

We know abdul

[toxic lake]

Some people will never to have that capacity like mental disability. Moreover, when people disagree what is moral, how do we know what is moral?

[wanton basalt]

Yes, and there was one who put the Quran in a pig's mouth and Muslims trampled on its face, and I support that.

[toxic lake]

What about differnet interpertation of Quran?

[high raven]

It's really late for the both of us, you should be asleep by now!😭

[glossy ether]

i’m too busy reading up on how to get ekittens

[wanton basalt]

It doesn't matter which religious book you burn. Because that creates problems

[feral river]

Terminate it for your liberal world

[sturdy mango]

Morality considers capacity, and the disagreement is judged by harm, fairness, and protection of the vulnerable

[glossy ether]

sanna could u recreate 9/11 in flight sim if u wanted to or nah

[wanton basalt]

If you believe that burning the Quran is freedom, then you must also understand that it is freedom to trample on the head of someone who burned the Quran.

[feral river]

Terminate the freedom of speech, establish monopoly over the press, start national-wide war mobilization, establish single-party rule under one supreme leader

[shy summit]

That’s gonna be a big fat fucking no

[turbid dome]

How is burning a book comparable to trampling someone

[shy summit]

And a big fat fuck off too

[wanton basalt]

Freedom to express anger

[high raven]

Sadly not, the screen just turns black when you crash 😞

[turbid dome]

They’re free to express anger without hurting someone

[wanton basalt]

What about hurting the feelings of Muslims?

[toxic lake]

Harm, fairness, vulnerable those are subjective. It depend on person for example @wanton basalt feel like burning religious isn't fair. does it make moral to not burning a book?

[sturdy mango]

Jorking my peanits

[shy summit]

I write the truth. If it hurts people’s feelings, oh fucking well. Yes I’ll minimize harm to society but not at the cost of truth.

[sturdy mango]

I'm out

[feral river]

These are effective ways to achieve your liberal world

[shy summit]

What the fuck

[feral river]

And give you the ultimate power to control everything

[turbid dome]

Muslims are free to hurt the feelings of anyone they want. But hurting people is beyond that.

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, Muslims do not consider their religion to be something trivial; they consider it more precious than anything else.

[toxic lake]

Did I say something wrong???

[wanton basalt]

For us, losing our lives is a small thing we can offer to our religion.

[feral river]

For the liberal world, kamikaze Tennoheika Banzai

[crisp garden]

hi

[wanton basalt]

We have the right to show that we are prepared to do anything in response to our feeling that our religion is being insulted.

[crisp garden]

@sturdy mango what is this channel

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-one-piece-hi-eating-gif-15722178600352992665

[sturdy mango]

Idk

[high raven]

What😭

[turbid dome]

Well, anyone who loses self control and hurts someone else because they’re mad about a book being burnt can surely then suffer the consequences of being in prison as a result

[thorny steeple]

i just want to skip uni today

[wanton basalt]

For you, hitting that person is less significant than burning the Quran, but for Muslims it is not just a book.

[thorny steeple]

im too tired

[sturdy mango]

Do it , I told my friend to mark my attendance

[wanton basalt]

My friend, you speak carelessly because you don't appreciate the value of the Quran. You see it as just a book, and I understand you, but it's not just that for Muslims.

[thorny steeple]

WE HAVE BIOMETERICS HERE

[rugged gyro]

i saw someone got muted for this btw

[thorny steeple]

AND THESE DAYS THEY CHECK HOSTELS

[sturdy mango]

It's over

[thorny steeple]

I CANTTTT

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-dean-crashout-throwing-breaking-gif-1620909273514052118

[shy summit]

No. They aren’t. Brother you realize you’re talking to a fucking journalist right? I adhere to the SPJ code of ethics

[thorny steeple]

like the one in iron man 1?

[sturdy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/man-gif-27702344

[thorny steeple]

idk if you even get reference

[turbid dome]

Ok, well we should base laws on secular principles because the consequence of basing laws on religions would be far worse.

1: we can’t verify the truth of any religion
2: religions will have conflicting laws and beliefs, so legitimizing some religious beliefs into law will simply create conflict and open a long pathway towards banning everything in conflict with any religion

[feral river]

I know that because you ever mentioned it that make me realize you are a journalist but

you can't escape the game to the ultimate power

any person want to realize any idea need power to do that

you need a ultra-totalitarian state to realize your liberal vision

[shy summit]

If you understood that you should know why what you said is so insulting

[thorny steeple]

one of the most corrupt profession btw

[high raven]

It's like what I always say, LRWEITP

[pseudo flume]

🇪🇺 🤝 🇮🇳

[wanton basalt]

However, you do not have the right to offend someone's feelings just because they do not believe what you believe.

[sturdy mango]

[turbid dome]

I do actually, as long as it’s just feelings

[feral river]

well no that's just a figure of speech, ignore it

[thorny steeple]

yeah i do if they are mentally insane mate

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, if someone were to attack my religious symbols, I would beat him to death.

[feral river]

I never thought you would be offended in that way anyway

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-girl-anime-gif-24226187

[feral river]

I wasn't aimed to do so

[pseudo flume]

They signed a Free Trade Agreement, now I'll get good shi for cheap

[thorny steeple]

you totally did btw

[feral river]

they can exist in the dust of history

[sturdy mango]

We should kiss the wall , I want be rich and support @wanton basalt goverment

[feral river]

more decentralized you are, more weak you are

[high raven]

India will finally finalise the Gripen deal from @fresh flower

[feral river]

and more centralized will conquer these

[pseudo flume]

RIP obaida

[thorny steeple]

that means more political marriages

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-think-thinking-gif-4280214517394111861

[feral river]

a failure based on the dead body of decentralized states

[pseudo flume]

How often do you change your pillow covers?

[feral river]

your anarchy dream can never be achieved

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, to prevent the spread of hatred and attacks, I will prohibit the burning of the Quran and any other religious book, or the desecration of religious symbols.

[thorny steeple]

he sleeps on chairs

true communitist

communitucentre*

[wanton basalt]

Wana be rich?

[thorny steeple]

communist*

[feral river]

government is authority

[toxic lake]

There is a trade off for both system: centralised system make thing easier to do including corruption. decentralised system make easier to adapt to local problems but hard to coordinate.

[feral river]

government is the means that authority impose stuff on you

[thorny steeple]

society of pedrophiles

[feral river]

yeah decentralized system is weak asf one point collapse it will dead as whole

[turbid dome]

Are pedrophiles fans of Pedro pascal

[wanton basalt]

Guys, I'm going to study business administration and economics so I can make our country better.

[sturdy mango]

Where are you from

[feral river]

if you are centralized you have the advantage initiative and you could break any fucking decentralized shit for your own interest

that's why we all have a strong central government in modern society

[thorny steeple]

we both are high

[feral river]

which doesn't have are already fucking dead or being conquered

[wanton basalt]

All the world are mine 🤣

[feral river]

or in the way of dying

[wanton basalt]

Is there anyone who wants to create a state with me?

[shy summit]

I value truth above all things

[gloomy frost]

@sturdy mango religious people never get violent right?

[sturdy mango]

They do , why not

[feral river]

you might have to understand what tf you are talking about

[sturdy mango]

[feral river]

and pick some fucking example

and demonstrate they aren't dead

[pseudo flume]

It's lowkey tunnels, not mines

[gloomy frost]

idk, I don't remember who, but someone was protecting religious people and saying they never get violent.

[feral river]

why the fuck would people be this dumb to think that decentralized is more advance

don't they realize why they are being oppressed under centralized system ?

[wanton basalt]

Anyone will defend whatever they love, no matter what it is—a person, an animal, a belief, or anything else.

[feral river]

because centralized system is powerful enough that could impose anything on individual

[gloomy frost]

Chatgpt ahh user.

[feral river]

and it is also effective

[gloomy frost]

They will defend it, But shouldn't use violance just because they don't like it.

[feral river]

decentralized system is slow, weak, and vulnerable asf

[wanton basalt]

Nope, translator 🤣

[toxic lake]

Do every Chinese agree everything CCP say?

[feral river]

ofc it's gonna be eliminated

[sturdy mango]

There was whole dabate on ts since an hour 💀

[feral river]

that's a fucking stupid question

if I have to agree what CCP says I won't be here

[shy summit]

Actually it’s less vulnerable

[wanton basalt]

No one going to say
Please don't steal my money give it back pls

[shy summit]

Consolidated power means if only one thing gets taken over you lose the whole gov

[toxic lake]

So centralised system can't always impose every ideas on individual, huh.

[shy summit]

Separation of power ensures there are checks and balances

[gloomy frost]

[wanton basalt]

Basically, I won't allow ppl to do things that going to make big problems between the ppl

[feral river]

US system is not so decentralized, it is centralized federal government dictate most of the affairs in between the nations but state government mind their own issues

[shy summit]

Yes it’s slower but it’s also safer and more stable

[shy summit]

Actually no

States are mostly autonomous

[wanton basalt]

Fuck U.S. and Chaina

[gloomy frost]

Not an equivalent example.
No one gave you right to kill someone just because they attacked your religious symbols.

[feral river]

the economic force, military force, diplomacy exclusive right is all hold and totally controlled by the federal government

[toxic lake]

Embrace Russia 🇷🇺 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

[gloomy frost]

Who won?

[feral river]

you have that state autonomy that's true but that won't cause division because the centralized federal government hold these power

[pseudo flume]

But Russia is embarassing itself

[wanton basalt]

Bro if u don't want ppl to attack u just don't do something that uk that will make them want to attack u

[feral river]

yeah it is but they don't have power, the ultimate power that dictate state issues was controlled by federal government

[shy summit]

Power is also split at the federal level

[wanton basalt]

No not Russia at all also 🤣

[shy summit]

Power isn’t unilateral

[feral river]

yes but it is at the federal level, so it won't cause any conflict or split between states

it is still centralized to one entity, but divided within it

[shy summit]

When there is one we have a court system

[feral river]

the supreme court is still at the federal level, it's the same thing dude

[shy summit]

But the president can’t override it

This is power division

[feral river]

you can't say if Hong Kong are totally autonomous because they are financially independent but their supreme court is in Beijing

[wanton basalt]

I'm going to make my one country, anyone wana join me? I will just hire those who deserve it.

[feral river]

well yes i never deny that what I'm saying was decentralized system, not power division

[shy summit]

Every state has a supreme court … you know that right?

[feral river]

your power division is within the central government

[shy summit]

State governments too

[wanton basalt]

No one will kill you for having a different opinion. Even me

[feral river]

regional government or state government does not have any exclusive right that could fight against it

or barely hold leverage

[shy summit]

California, for example uses the same model as the federal system

Counties are like mini states within the state

[feral river]

besides Texas, well they have actually

[wanton basalt]

@thorny steeple
U can say that u don't like Islam or u don't think it's the right religion, but I won't allow you to burn Quran

[shy summit]

I can burn whatever book I want

Free speech

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-eagle-gif-5118097

[bronze grove]

What serious talk is happening here

[wanton basalt]

Listen to me for a moment

[rugged gyro]

islam 24/7

[gloomy frost]

And attacking your religion symbol comes in that?

[shy summit]

When done enmasse by the government

[feral river]

burn US flag is now a crime

[shy summit]

It’s not

It’s protected speech

[feral river]

Trump announced that

[wanton basalt]

Why do we hurt other people's feelings just because we disagree with them?

Why would you do something that will cause problems between people?

If I were to protect you from being attacked, wouldn't I be unjust because I made them feel humiliated?

[bronze grove]

Yeah these guys always.
Seems to have a fight with everyone

[pseudo flume]

We should burn chemistry books

[shy summit]

Yeah there’s already a ruling on that. Trump can go suck his own micropeen

[bronze grove]

Truly an insecure religion

[shy summit]

His words don’t override law

He can say whatever that doesn’t make it so

[rugged gyro]

real they should be like me so peaceful

[shy summit]

Trump is not god, he does not have authority over the constitution

[toxic lake]

Yeah, f*ck oxidation and balance equations. Go to hell!!!

[bronze grove]

Want some peanuts

[pseudo flume]

Sure buddy

[wanton basalt]

Simply put, they have the right to do what they want if you think you have the right to do what you want.

[feral river]

it's a paradise if you are in charge and your word become the law automatically without a doubt

[shy summit]

He cannot create laws or change them. That power is given to congress

[high raven]

I said this about baby Rudin and no one agreed

[feral river]

that's authoritarian dude

[shy summit]

Not how it works here

[rugged gyro]

always

[pseudo flume]

All my homies hate inorganic chemistry

[shy summit]

Again, not how it works here

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-burnt-peanut-gif-8357479628067965653

[feral river]

he's breaching the power of the law for all the time

[rugged gyro]

i am i never disrespect anyone

[pseudo flume]

No, don't born baby, we aren't yahoodis

[wanton basalt]

U.S. supports and kills innocent people, and so does China.

[shy summit]

And he’s getting his ass spanked in court like with Stormy Daniels

[pseudo flume]

sure buddy

[sturdy mango]

[feral river]

nah I don't think he really mind that too much he's planning and thinking how to get around with the constitution and run for a 3rd term

[rugged gyro]

spread love guys

[wanton basalt]

There is no freedom of expression in America or China.

[feral river]

he even openly announced the idea that he wanted to do so

[rugged gyro]

learn it from me

[shy summit]

He can’t. He may try. But he can’t.

[wanton basalt]

You will be imprisoned if you speak about Jews in the United States.

[shy summit]

The law is solid in that

[bronze grove]

Can't I have personal beef with these guys

[shy summit]

LMFAO WHAT

[sturdy mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852805796789354496/1398688885177061578/attachment-2.gif

[feral river]

you will be imprisoned if you speak about anyone but China in PRC

[wanton basalt]

You will be punished if you are in government and you say America first, not Israel.

[rugged gyro]

They said free country

[shy summit]

Take this from me. I haven’t been arrested yet, and I’ve written some MEATY stuff. And had it published.

[feral river]

a collage student show up a Palestinian flag in Jiangsu disappeared

[pseudo flume]

Yes, USA is barely a first world compared to countries like bulgaria

[feral river]

after he was released he was being detained for 2 weeks

[wanton basalt]

I should be able to speak out about my disagreement with what China is doing to Muslims.

[high raven]

They should put up a missing photo of him

[shy summit]

Agreed

[sturdy mango]

jewmerica

[feral river]

if you want disappear, that's your freedom

our job is to maintain the social order

[shy summit]

Tf

[pseudo flume]

It wouldn't be useful in china

[bronze grove]

Few days ago .
I made joke about assalamualaikum to A slam dunk .
They got offended

[shy summit]

That’s not freedom

[wanton basalt]

I know that, I'm not stupid, so I'm saying that China is an oppressive country like America.

[feral river]

actually muslims' average living condition in China is much higher than they are in the middle east

[rugged gyro]

how dare they not even offensive enough

[pseudo flume]

And they're also patriotic about China

[feral river]

yeah especially Hui Muslims

[bronze grove]

Insecure religion

[feral river]

only some Uyghurs are unhappy about our administration

[pseudo flume]

Hue hue muslims

[wanton basalt]

In America and Germany, you will be imprisoned if you say you hate Jews.
You might be imprisoned and beaten, just like Germany does to people who raise the Palestinian flag.

[sturdy mango]

whats ur religion

[bronze grove]

Atheism

[rugged gyro]

horsey got insecure already

[bronze grove]

Is she a muslim too ? XD

[rugged gyro]

yes

[wanton basalt]

We should liberate America just like America liberates other countries, haha.
It occupies countries and kills their people under the guise of freedom.

[high raven]

Isn't the best thing to do when a collage student goes missing to put out photos of them

[bronze grove]

Make sense

[feral river]

it is by law that nobody should disrupt the social order

[rugged gyro]

bark like you want it bark like y want it baby

[gloomy frost]

Not a religion.

[feral river]

and by this law we are allowed to detain people for a certain period without trail

[bronze grove]

Yes

[pseudo flume]

China is different, minecraft can unlock his sister's phone

[bronze grove]

I don't wanted to associate with any sort of religion

[rugged gyro]

are you millenial

[wanton basalt]

I think my father said, "America is the land God promised us; I must reclaim America."

[livid charm]

[gloomy frost]

Ok.

[bronze grove]

it's fun to look around in the this chat when you are bored

[pseudo flume]

You can't even reclaim your ancestral properties from your uncle

[gloomy frost]

No.

[wanton basalt]

They must support me in this, otherwise it will be a double standard, because they supported the Jews in occupying Palestine under the pretext that God promised it to them.

[high raven]

Faceid without password is toilet paper

[sturdy mango]

you meant it as a joke , but if u see as a muslim perspective its not funny , better do not joke i guess

[rugged gyro]

how old are you?

[pseudo flume]

usually i don't get hate for cracking muslim jokes

[wanton basalt]

Did you know that Trump's grandfather was a German immigrant?

[sturdy mango]

your jokes are mostly on shias

[pseudo flume]

No, it's on muslims

[rugged gyro]

I get all the hate exclusively

[pseudo flume]

Can't be shia

[feral river]

@shy summit

[sturdy mango]

[bronze grove]

Yeah I know.
The other guy made an excuse by saying.
You don't respect.
While i have made non offensive joke to nearly every religion. No one got offended. Some of them laughed.

So that truly make me believe what sort of blind believers you guys are

[gloomy frost]

Old enough to be dad of two kids.

[pseudo flume]

Because you genuinely hate them

[wanton basalt]

He should go back to Germany , just as he ask Africans to return to their countries.

[pseudo flume]

I don't hate religion as long as net impact on is positive

[wanton basalt]

We must return the land called the United States to its people.

[rugged gyro]

i don't hate people i hate religion

[wanton basalt]

We must return the Jews to their countries: Germany, Poland, and France.

[sturdy mango]

Respect is not a thing measured by how many people laugh.
If someone says a joke crossed a line for them, the respectful response you should acknowledge it not insult their beliefs.

[rugged gyro]

So that's why you type like that.

[pseudo flume]

There are people I would never want to see become atheists

[wanton basalt]

You hate my religion?

[rugged gyro]

no of course

alhamdulilah

[wanton basalt]

Even if you did, I wouldn't kill you, haha. I was just asking why.

🤣

[high raven]

We will start with Pennsylvania and its city Lebanon

[sturdy mango]

why

[bronze grove]

You can torment the topic on how many shapes you want .
But I know what's the reality

[wanton basalt]

The Jews must be returned to Germany.

[feral river]

lmfao

[sturdy mango]

Saying ‘I know the reality’ doesn’t make it true

[wanton basalt]

They fled because of Hitler; now that Hitler is gone, we should send them back.

[toxic lake]

Aren't Jews from Palestine?

[rugged gyro]

no

[feral river]

Palestine does not exist

they are from the State of Israel

[bronze grove]

alright bro cya .
Further discussion will cause me brain damage

[sturdy mango]

[wanton basalt]

No, not everyone; Jews made up only 3% of the population of Palestine before the immigration of European Jews.

[feral river]

well there is no Palestine dude

[wanton basalt]

Even the British government, which allowed them to go to Palestine, says that the Jews established a state on the land of Palestine, haha.

[toxic lake]

But their ancestors were from there so, by your logic the Jew's exodus back to Israel is justified.

[wanton basalt]

We can easily prove its existence from the telegram of the British Prime Minister who asked the British government to grant Palestine to the Jews (with the word Palestine mentioned in the mail).

[sturdy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/man-gif-27702344

[feral river]

there isn't, they does not exist, they aren't legit

there are only one state that control the region which is State of ISrael

[wanton basalt]

Yes, they owned less than 5 percent of the land of Palestine, and the rest belonged to Muslims and Christians.This is according to the Ottoman Empire, Britain, and the Palestinians.

[gloomy frost]

😭 ok buddy.

[sturdy mango]

🇮🇱

[gloomy frost]

No, Not really but sure.

[wanton basalt]

If I prove that true Jews reject the establishment of a Jewish state because they believe it is forbidden for them, will you admit that you are stupid?

[rugged gyro]

Sure, old man.

[feral river]

Hail State of Israel 🇮🇱

[wanton basalt]

.

Answer that

[toxic lake]

'true'

[wanton basalt]

I will show that Jews don't believe in Israel

[turbid dome]

Israel is spelled so close to isn’t real for a reason.

In all seriousnes fuck Israel

[toxic lake]

We're doing purity test now?

[shy summit]

What the fuck

[sturdy mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1412807553200689326/1442857622444183734/brain-in-ass_Brain_In_Ass_Meme___Brain_in_ass___discover_and_share_GIFs.gif

[wanton basalt]

The Jews refuse to establish a state of their own; the Zionists want a state.

[sturdy mango]

can i send 1 GIF

[manic juniper]

The Jews

[toxic lake]

nah uh israel is anagram to "is real".

[sturdy mango]

are you christian

[wanton basalt]

British Prime Minister Balfour sent a telegram to Lord Rothschild requesting his assistance in granting Palestine to the Jews, as Palestine was under British occupation at that time.

[turbid dome]

Is really good at killing children with the appropriately named Infant Death Force (IDF)?

[toxic lake]

No I'm worse. I'm Thai.

[wanton basalt]

That was in

November 2 1917

The British government used to say "Palestine," not "Israel."

[sturdy mango]

🇰🇭

[toxic lake]

Good joke. 👍

[feral river]

what's today right now

is it 1918 ? or 1917

dude is living in the past

[sturdy mango]

myself cambodian

[toxic lake]

Oh you know Cambodia exists. nice.

[feral river]

you lose the freaking war and pay the price

or you will lose the next one

[sturdy mango]

i didnt knew thai existed

[toxic lake]

Learn more about geography then, because Thailand will be superpower in 2030 💪 💪 💪

[wanton basalt]

What if it is proven that the Zionist terrorist movements were attacking civilians, not armed individuals, and displacing them, as admitted by members of those gangs?

[feral river]

if you want a war you will have it

and don't cry if you lose it

[wanton basalt]

Haha, and is fighting civilians considered war?

[sturdy mango]

They can Hit ismail haniya precisely far from gaza but when it comes to gaza they have to wipe of citizens

epic

[wanton basalt]

Have you ever heard of a country bombing a hospital because of the presence of military personnel inside?

Yes, it is the Israeli occupation.

The presence of an anti-Israel individual inside a hospital justifies bombing the hospital.

Regardless of whether that fighter has the right to treatment

But they don't care about killing thousands of unarmed people.

[lusty pagoda]

Hi Im 🇰🇭

[wanton basalt]

Or for example, cutting off electricity and bombing desalination plants in Gaza because there is Hamas in Gaza, haha.

[sturdy mango]

im from anywhere except israel js to ragebait people

[wanton basalt]

Do you know that there is no Hamas presence in the West Bank and other Palestinian cities, yet they arrest and kill dozens of people daily in those cities?

[sturdy mango]

[wanton basalt]

Anyone living within what is called the State of Israel is not innocent; rather, they are someone who helps kill Palestinians and occupy Palestine.

[lusty pagoda]

Ok

[sturdy mango]

myself thai

[wanton basalt]

Don't forget that there are ethics of war.

[feral river]

there is no Palestine, if you are referring that Israeli Gazans they suffered from the war that is a hard truth but it is mainly caused by terrorists and terrorist group of Hamas

[sturdy mango]

proud thai member 🇹🇭

[feral river]

State of Israel and IDF is there to protect their citizen and liberate people out of terrorists control

[lusty pagoda]

Ok

[wanton basalt]

Well, why does Hamas exist? Isn't it because of the occupation? Haha

[feral river]

they are the side of justice and they won the war every time they fight

[feral river]

they will eliminate Hamas totally off the ground finally

and it is being destroyed mostly

[wanton basalt]

By killing 100,000 civilians and bombing 90 percent of the buildings

[sturdy mango]

you know what arguing with israel supporter means

[feral river]

not a hard objective to achieve

[sturdy mango]

waste of time

[feral river]

some price is paid for conduct necessary operations

[sturdy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/man-gif-27702344

[wispy sky]

These are the same people who were silent on what's happening in Nigeria or sudan🤣

[wanton basalt]

Did you know that the Israeli occupation spends hundreds of millions of dollars monthly trying to convince the world that they are right, and now it has been proven that they are the most despicable people in the world?

[wispy sky]

Audacity to defend hamas

[feral river]

there is no occupation, all of the land that belongs to State of Israel and they are the only sovereign nation in the region

[wanton basalt]

Are you aware of Israel's crimes in Sudan and Somalia?

[feral river]

and they are conducting several attacks and operations against terrorism

that's what they do, nothing beyond that is important

[wispy sky]

Are you aware what boko haram is doing in Nigeria for a decade?

[wanton basalt]

The whole world now believes in the existence of Palestine and that Israel is not just an occupying power.

[turbid dome]

It justifies thanking everyone in the hospital so that way you can thank the brave resistance fighter 🫡

[feral river]

and they won the war

[feral river]

under the force of IDF, nobody could change the fact that the region belongs to only State of Israel

you could say they are occupying nobody cares, but they won the war and they will continue to control the place for their national interest

[wanton basalt]

I am now telling everyone, I will kill every person who supports the Israeli occupation in revenge for the killing of my close friend while he was sitting in his home with his family, and because they bombed my house even though I am not in Gaza.

[feral river]

it is above everything for them to put their national interest in the first place

not anything else

[wispy sky]

I wonder why egypt or jordan is not openjng their borders to help Palestinians

[feral river]

and IDF will realize their dream of dominating the whole region under the State of Israel

and that's why they will be supported, they are the side of justice

[wanton basalt]

We saw what happened to the Israeli army when they entered Gaza, how they were running away from Hamas, and I can send videos.

[feral river]

and they won the war 🇮🇱

Hail State of Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu 🇮🇱

[shy summit]

Don’t bother

[wanton basalt]

Look how they support a war criminal wanted by the International Court of Justice

[sturdy mango]

only thing they rely on is air force ,

[shy summit]

Mine only speaks one language

And that’s throwing hands

[feral river]

not true, but that's what you do when dealing with terrorists

[shy summit]

Mine I’m gonna say this one fucking time

The general populace of Palestine are not fucking terrorists

[wanton basalt]

Do you know why the Israeli occupation army killed 100,000 Palestinians? Because they failed to retrieve their prisoners 🤣

[feral river]

I agree

I never say any side should target Israeli arabs and Gazans in the war zone

[wanton basalt]

Imagine that some individuals caused Israel to wage a two-year war with little to show for it.

They told the world they would return their prisoners within a short period, but they only got them back after a heavy dose of humiliation through ceasefire agreements.

Imagine that Israel, "the invincible state", was brought down under the feet of some men wearing flip-flops, not military boots, haha.

Imagine someone wearing flip-flops going up to a tank, placing a bomb on it, and then calmly withdrawing.

[turbid dome]

Because they’re puppets of the west, look where they get their weapons from. If they were true allies they would’ve destroyed Israel already, Yemen is making their economy fail and causing a negative immigration rate and it’s one of the poorest countries

[wanton basalt]

Did you know that the Israeli army suffers from a high rate of war trauma, fear, and psychological problems?

[feral river]

LRWEITP

[wanton basalt]

Did you know that sexual harassment of women in the Israeli army is very widespread?

Did you know that Israeli occupation soldiers wear diapers?

[wanton basalt]

Did you know that America sent Delta Force to Gaza at the beginning of the war (the same unit that went to Venezuela some time ago) and they were defeated in Gaza and withdrew without announcing it to the public?

[upper peak]

Some travelers or tourists come to other countries and they mess around the environment, they cook on the road , they sleep in buses and they even bring the water on their own , everything 😭 and they don't even clean up the place , they dry the clothes on the roads ... Just feed up with the civic and common sense 😿

Imagine what country is that , why they say they are the biggest in the economy... They just say we are inferior to them 😭
What the hell !

[neon sierra]

wow yall still typing

[sturdy mango]

Basically indians

[wanton basalt]

Did you know that the Israeli occupation and America are considered the most hated entities?

[toxic lake]

I like Azerbaijan's anthem more. Darth vadar vibe.

[upper peak]

😁.

[jaunty elm]

JusticeForOrelhaBrazil, thats it

[pseudo flume]

Lmao, I'm coming to your country (legit), I'll do these things

[wanton basalt]

Look it up yourself and you'll see.

America is a weak country; look at them in Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Gaza.

[upper peak]

Haha , bro got influenced .. so easily 🤪

[sturdy mango]

https://klipy.com/gifs/galaxy-angel-ga-1

[toxic lake]

Look who owns global currency.

[upper peak]

From the 4th largest economic country..😁👏🤪

[pseudo flume]

I'll hunt down Nobu for the national benifit of Nepal