🧠｜serious-chat

[sonic lion]

Honestly, nothing

[thorny steeple]

well i have my answer im just trying to hole in your concept of it

[thorny steeple]

so you dont have any justification, and you wont he vegan?

arent you willfully being immoral

[sonic lion]

I actually think there's no justification, I just eat thinking that nature is wild and so am I

[sonic lion]

Yup I am

I was a vegetarian when I was a teen but then I got all cynical

[thorny steeple]

so you acknowlegde killing animals eating it, and then making the mistake again instead of making better decision? what justifies that?

[sonic lion]

Thinking "what's the point"

[sonic lion]

Nothing
I guess I just think more of people instead of animals

[static pivot]

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

well so

as i said

my morality is based on humans well being

[sonic lion]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

now why would i base it on just humans?

[sonic lion]

Cause you taste delicious meat yummy

But animals also kill each other
And god kills all the time
And so should we

https://tenor.com/view/vergil675-gif-15819916680986470676

Damn this actor is fine

I think that's why the holy trinity works well
God being the law and jesus being mercy

Holy spirit is useless I don't get it

[thorny steeple]

😭

[sonic lion]

https://youtu.be/TmfVDYucGkY?si=1Vw9uGIdfjcOiNeF

Werner herzog lowkey changed how I view nature

[thorny steeple]

are you sure your atheist?

[sonic lion]

The psychopath thing is debatable tho I'm skeptical

[urban swift]

Hmm...
Well we should focus more on actions than words.

1. Laws are there but doesn't crime happen all the time?
2. it means that religion has failed to guide its followers
3. why don't we hold religions and religious leaders responsible for wrong doings their followers commit in the name of it or god?
4. read about the life of mohammad or other religious leaders. You may find some absurd stuff about them.
5. religions are man-made so does the objective morality in it.
   You'll only find the objective morality of the era that religion was formed in.

[sonic lion]

I am, I just like thinking about different perspectives

[thorny steeple]

if everyone is decided by god, then the kids who get cancer is also decided by god?

[sonic lion]

There's no psychopath is the dsm 5

[sonic lion]

Probably yea

But they believe they suffer for a reason

God has a plan and all that bs

[thorny steeple]

if god is allknowing then we dont have free will everything is decided

[thorny steeple]

what kind of plan has a kid go thru cancer?

and how is that a moral plan

[sonic lion]

Yeah there's like a billion contradictions in religion

[sonic lion]

God thinks in ways we can't even grasp 😁

[thorny steeple]

your silly

[urban swift]

How about kids getting graped?

[sonic lion]

Seriously they can cope with any narrative

[thorny steeple]

you're*

[urban swift]

What's the plan

[sonic lion]

That's what they say bro lol

[urban swift]

What's their crime?

Were they asking for it?

[thorny steeple]

do you believe in karma

[urban swift]

Can a kid's karma be this heavy to get graped?

And if God knows it all why did he kept watching a kid getting SA?
Is god a voyeur?

[sonic lion]

Is it better to believe that a kid is facing unimaginable suffering for no reason or because their heavenly father has a plan for them? Idk man people believe in whatever to cope with life's absurdism

[thorny steeple]

"she asked for it by wearing a short skirt"

😭

[urban swift]

A diaper

[thorny steeple]

no

the women not the kids

😭

[urban swift]

You mean the 70 year old ones ?

They wear diapers too

[thorny steeple]

no

[urban swift]

And there are cases of them being graped

[sonic lion]

I know lol it's not considered a mental illness, more of a personality trait. It can be mesured with the psychopathy checklist created by the biggest reference in psychopaths Robert D Hare

[thorny steeple]

like women in 30s who wear short skirt and guys say "she asked for it by wearing that short skirt"

[urban swift]

If good knows it all the future as well and everything is predecided.

Then why would he let his prophet marry a girl child lol
If God knew how pedophilia will be seen in near future :/

[thorny steeple]

first of all why does god need prophet, cant he jsut come by himself and define quran

[urban swift]

God doesn't know arabic. Oh wait...

[feral river]

Cuz it’s all fake stuff

[sonic lion]

Well there's this question like are they actually a psycopath or just a straight white male profiting over his given power? But that's a question for the woke people

[feral river]

God does not exist because there’s no any direct proof or any case under direct observation that effectively demonstrate its existence

[thorny steeple]

@sonic lion im actully prophet, you gotta worship me

would u worship me?

[sonic lion]

I would never worship a man ok

[thorny steeple]

wow

[thorny steeple]

whats wrong with me?

[feral river]

There’s no freaking God and the fictional story of the Bible or Quran is all human made for mind control and ideology indoctrination to establish their regime based on the total scam

That’s the reality

[sonic lion]

Thank you lmao I don't know why 4 atheists are debating as if we were religious

[thorny steeple]

i thought someone here was for all eqaulity

[sonic lion]

Nothing personal bro

[urban swift]

I really think humans need an update in the system.
The god need to step up his game.

Or either god is so naive god doesn't know how to run the world?

[sonic lion]

Equality is an ideal
We gotta work with what we have

[thorny steeple]

then start by worshipping me

🥺

[sonic lion]

We both worship each other then

[thorny steeple]

i have prophecies

[thorny steeple]

wouldnt that be like boot licking eachother

dih riding

[urban swift]

It's not less of debating more of brushing up on each other's concepts i would say.

(I still ain't atheist if you count me in)

[thorny steeple]

cus

[sonic lion]

What

[thorny steeple]

man are powerful

[sonic lion]

Oh

You mean men on the workforce an women at home?

[thorny steeple]

no

back in days men used to go to huntings while women take care of kids

[sonic lion]

That's a myth, women also did hunting

God you guys really need to read feminist theory

[thorny steeple]

i doubt that

[thorny steeple]

thats just propaganda by feminist

[sonic lion]

Dude that's standard fact

[sonic lion]

That's actually years of research

Look it up yourself

[urban swift]

Imagine 9 year old baby girl* sharing bed with ~55 year old dude who already had tons of wives but still thinking he's a god-man

[thorny steeple]

The only species which is matriarchal are the gorillas

[sonic lion]

Thought we were talking about humans

[thorny steeple]

imagine tons of wifes

consentually*

[fresh flower]

That's really common if you don't go 50/50, just another way for a couple to handle their combined financial situation

[sonic lion]

I think women are always the primary caregivers because they breastfeed and just end up having more contact with the baby
But I don't think it should rely purely on a gender, we should share everything equally. We both work, we both take care of the house

[thorny steeple]

That's my point, gorillas are one of the few species that live together and are matriarchal, unlike human societies, which are patriarchal

you got that right

[thorny steeple]

preach it sista

[urban swift]

I think some stuff settled naturally.
Initially it wasn't meant to oppress women.

[fresh flower]

Isn't the latter part the norm where yall live

Can't relate tbh

[thorny steeple]

but back in that days men were breadwinners and women were caregivers

you cant deny that

[urban swift]

Terms and conditions apply

[fresh flower]

It's a third world country if men aren't forced by law to take parental leave

[thorny steeple]

i have lived like 20 years of my life, i havent opress any women

[fresh flower]

I don't see why that'd be wrong tbh, lost of bums who dip the moment their wife gives birth

[sonic lion]

There's archeolotical data bro just look it up, there's a bunch of research that proved that women were active in the hunting
Besides that whats your point

[fresh flower]

Yo you're the guy I called a potential rpist

[thorny steeple]

sure give me the facts

[fresh flower]

Wyd here still

[thorny steeple]

"potentially"

and also i have been on earth for 20 years havent graped anyone

[fresh flower]

Not yet

[thorny steeple]

I have 20 years of data and evidence that i havent graped, and you calling me potentially grapist is like calling a women who has been on earth for 20 years potential rapist as well

[sonic lion]

https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/aman.13914

Do i actually have to share it for you to believe bro

Ppl say that? Jesus

[fresh flower]

Cope buddy you put yourself in that situation

[sonic lion]

That's so violent

[thorny steeple]

what is saed?

[fresh flower]

Pro tip: Don't say "neglible clothing" if you don't want to be called that irl

[thorny steeple]

cope what lmao

[thorny steeple]

i can say whatever the fk i want

[urban swift]

Good boy

(If that's true)

[fresh flower]

He will the moment he has a chance to btw

I 100% believe it

[sonic lion]

You're from sweden thats why

[thorny steeple]

i wonder on what evidence of data, you made up that 100% aboslute percentage, and pls dont say potentially

[thorny steeple]

ill look it up

[fresh flower]

Hell yeah bro

[sonic lion]

Brazil, I think it's the 3rd country in the world who commits more feminicide

[thorny steeple]

you end up going on potential

[thorny steeple]

😭 thats not 100% buddy

[cerulean pivot]

Jorjor wel

[thorny steeple]

potentially your a grapist as well @fresh flower

[fresh flower]

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[sonic lion]

Jag talar inte svenska men jag vilja 😔

I did a swedish course but the guy stopped uploading

So I have a shitty swedish

[fresh flower]

I'm not the one saying "Neglible clothing" like it's a debuff

[thorny steeple]

george orwell and me was born in the same state

[fresh flower]

You're the second Brazilian I run into on here that was learning Swedish😭

[thorny steeple]

as i said: potentailly everyone is

[sonic lion]

Bergman was!!!

[cerulean pivot]

No way
The big brother was watching both of y'all

[sonic lion]

Dang they used to want to learn norwegian

[thorny steeple]

sadly he died before i was born

[fresh flower]

Holy peak

He's on our 200 SEK bill and very few know who he is

[sonic lion]

Bergman is the reason I wanted to learn swedish

[cerulean pivot]

Snus

[mint parrot]

Serious chat does not look serious

[thorny steeple]

you missed

[sonic lion]

Not a lot of people like art european nihilist raging atheist cinema

But I do

[mint parrot]

Damn

[thorny steeple]

wait are you atheist or anti-theist

[sonic lion]

Good question

I'm a Bergman fan

[thorny steeple]

im fan of hot women

[sonic lion]

So Im a wanna be religious who simply cannot believe

And I suffer from the hole of abscence of meaning that religion left in my life

[thorny steeple]

you have a non believe in god or just against the belief of god

[fresh flower]

Dude it's actually so bad but it's literally a no-brainer if you're a student or if you've just recently moved in and need to buy furniture (I used to work there)

[thorny steeple]

and tf is bergman

[sonic lion]

That's how pop divas fans are talking about their idols

[thorny steeple]

i was a anti-theist then i changed it to atheism

[sonic lion]

Ingmar Bergman was a swedish filmmaker. He did one of the besr films in cinema's history: Persona (1966)

[thorny steeple]

currently im atheist agnostic

[sonic lion]

I used to be a film nerd

[thorny steeple]

any movie before 1990s is just so bad at cinematography and screenplay

[sonic lion]

Yeah that's his most famous I guess but not the best

[sonic lion]

What.

[fresh flower]

Yeah this guy is just ragebaiting

[thorny steeple]

The quality just degrades

[sonic lion]

Just say you have bad taste

[thorny steeple]

sure you can believe in a lie

[sonic lion]

What movies before 90s you watched?

[feral river]

I’m a fan of Donald J. Trump

🇺🇸

[sonic lion]

Lmao

[high raven]

There's a lot of deranged takes in this channel but I think this takes it, congratulations if anything

[sonic lion]

He nailed it

Gave his worst opinion

[thorny steeple]

sure but I have tried watching movies before that decade, and it just doesn't make sense to me, I have this personal hypothesis but movie Renaissance took after 1990s

[smoky bramble]

Hi guys

[high raven]

Would be lynched by the Letterboxd crowd

[sonic lion]

What's the best film you've watched?

[high raven]

Hello 👋🏻

[mint parrot]

U are giving me 2020 vibe

[sonic lion]

I think some letterboxd people would even agree they're kinda performative bosses

[thorny steeple]

i counldnt stand more the then few movies before the 1990s they have bad colour grading, direction, and acting and after getting used to movies of 2010s i cant stand watching it

[sonic lion]

Again, I'm curious to see what you watched

[thorny steeple]

3:10 to yuma
the hateful 8
the revenant

[sonic lion]

A taranrino film, of course

[thorny steeple]

one battle after another
the american hustle

cars

[high raven]

What

One battle after another is one of your favourite films?

[sonic lion]

Lmfao

That's not even the best PTA one

[high raven]

I watched 30 minutes of it and had enough 😭

[sonic lion]

I wish I read Thomas Pynchon to understand all that sexual stuff like what the fuck

[thorny steeple]

damn

metacritic gave it 90% metascore

[sonic lion]

Fuck it

[thorny steeple]

and i loved it

anora

the holdovers

ad astra

[sonic lion]

Okay

Standard Hollywood popular movies

[thorny steeple]

three billboards at ebbington , missouri

[sonic lion]

What films before the 90s you watched and desliked?

[urban swift]

I liked the revenant.
That horse scene was unexpected but I liked it

[sonic lion]

I hated this with all my gut

[high raven]

I don't really trust reviews on media, they gave Death Stranding a 6.8 but when I played it it's one of the best games I've ever played

[thorny steeple]

except hollywood, i like japans Kiyoshi Kurosawa and koreas Kim-KI duks

[thorny steeple]

im not talking abotu user ratings

[cerulean pivot]

Who gave it 6.8

[sonic lion]

Who even cares about ratings

[thorny steeple]

and no death strandign got pretty good metascrore

[thorny steeple]

me

[cerulean pivot]

Ikr

[high raven]

IGN

[cerulean pivot]

Ign hire fucking boomers to test things they don't even like

[thorny steeple]

not one review

yeah deathstraning for like 82 on metacritic

Death Stranding 2: On The Beach

got 89

im excited for marty supreme, hamnet, and the testament of ann lee.

gonna relese in few months

[sonic lion]

Hamnet seems good

[thorny steeple]

he truly is the revenant

[smoky bramble]

Where are you from guys?

[sonic lion]

But there's no way those films are better then old films

[thorny steeple]

84 on metascore

[sonic lion]

Not for being old

[sonic lion]

I don't care 😭

I just love Jessie Buckley and Shakespeare

[thorny steeple]

i dont like old films for 3 things, direction, colour gradieng and actin

[sonic lion]

Ironic thing is that you go for critic and yet dismiss them
If you ask the standard best director, best actor etc it will be someone from the 20th century

[thorny steeple]

i watched 213 movies past year

[sonic lion]

Best actor I think it's Marlon Brando

[thorny steeple]

well thats another reason

[sonic lion]

Best director it would be Orson Wells

I don't agree with neither but yk

Idk how you can make such huge generalization I think you just don't like old things lol

Maybe you struggle to connect

[smoky bramble]

why dont you both reply me?

[sonic lion]

Cause we're talking about something else

And there's always the question about where we are from

We're tireddd

[cerulean pivot]

What's the point of knowing where we live when you don't even know anything about us

[thorny steeple]

Critics back then didn’t really know what directing could grow into if you set a movie from the 1950s next to one from 2020 they’re different creatures entirely techniques pacing visual language all of it but critics in the 50s were judging films by the limits and expectations of their own time so when something felt like the best effort possible back then they handed out perfect scores thats why so many older films sit pretty with 100 while modern movies despite being more complex and ambitious get picked apart standards didnt just rise honey they multiplied and that aint nostalgia thats just how time works

[thorny steeple]

someones feeling leftout

[smoky bramble]

I just want to know which country you are from, so I can tell my friends that I have a friend from that country.

[thorny steeple]

i thought someone was a feminist

[high raven]

Poor guy 😭

[cerulean pivot]

Buddy......

[sonic lion]

Even critics nowadays would pick older masters. And theater is one of the oldest arts, it's being going for thousands of years
And I think you dismiss how much art is "recycled", artists reference other artists, take inspiration and so on

[cerulean pivot]

I'm sorry 😔

[feral river]

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[sonic lion]

That's precisely why I hated it. "Feminist" movie written and directed by a man? You gotta be joking

[feral river]

Follow DJT unconditionally

🇺🇸

[thorny steeple]

Tell me what's wrong with it, rather than just telling me it's directed by males, because now you just sound like a mysandrist

[urban swift]

Well he knows what's good for his people

[high raven]

I hope the EU pulls through with the €93bn tariffs and don't cave like they did last time

[thorny steeple]

i love sean bakers filmography, Anora, Red Rocket, and The Florida Project

[sonic lion]

I think masters exist in all ages, dismissing them for their time is just irrational to me. I get it that you have more resources now but techonology solely does not make a good film. Good films are rooted in good writing and that is timeless

[sonic lion]

How saying that a "feminist" movie directed by a man is a joke is mysandrist?

You're just being sensitive now

[cerulean pivot]

Maybe he's a good man

[thorny steeple]

ICE increased their raids on cities with strong democratic party stronghold. coincidence? or revenge?

[thorny steeple]

im asking, tell me smth of substance from the movie that makes the movie bad?

[cerulean pivot]

For example
Books are timeless

[sonic lion]

Well I don't know about that
He tried to be Fellini but failed. It wasn't funny and he didn't even acknowledge the perspective of his own female character in the film

[sonic lion]

I can only say what I personally didn't like, I never called it an objectly bad movie

I'm not a critic to affirm that

[thorny steeple]

and im asking why you didnt like

[sonic lion]

here

[thorny steeple]

you dont have to say what you didn't like about the movie, until you become a critic

[thorny steeple]

ngl but that movie was the most funniest movie from the whole year i laughed so much i cant even tell you

[sonic lion]

The scene where Anora is being kidnapped by three men felt like woah just slipped into bananas hahaha instead of complete terror from Anora's POV since she could basically be brutally violated

Its ridiculous how he didn't even consider her perspective

[thorny steeple]

i bet dollars to donut one battle after another by paul thomas anderson is gonna win the best motion picture

[sonic lion]

Plus not my kind of comedy

And the guy was just completely vanished in the final act like what happened? He having no will anymore was so irrational inside the narrative

[high raven]

I wouldn't be surprised, I felt like the movie was made for liberals in the US who hate Trump, that was at least my impression of it from the 30 minutes I watched

[sonic lion]

Anyway if you want a feminist movie go watch a female filmmaker at least

Agnes Varda or Chantal Akerman are great

[sonic lion]

Yeah well that's a problem I have, I think I have no sense of humor

I can only laugh at it's always sunny

[thorny steeple]

btw when the script was written of the movie, trump wasnt elected matter of fact it was before elections

[thorny steeple]

well its subjective

[high raven]

I heard that it was worked on for 20 or so years but I refuse to believe it

The same goes for Megalopolis

[sonic lion]

The script was based of vineland from Pynchon and they literally missed the point of the novel which was about mind control only to produce an empty action film that they didn't even know how it was going to end

Pretty empty film and the liberal discourse just annoys me

Trying to speak with the working class cause it's trending 😁

[thorny steeple]

im into humours like, Easy A, Booksmart, Fired Up, Pulp Fiction

[sonic lion]

Jesus christ

[thorny steeple]

hell naw

who told you that

[high raven]

Lightbulb idea to cast Dicaprio for it, a know non-rich person

[thorny steeple]

guess who directed megalopolis

[sonic lion]

Lmfao

He cares about the environment in his private jet 😔

[urban swift]

While hanging out with Bezos?

[high raven]

I know that Coppola did, it doesn't change that the movie was garbage

[sonic lion]

I swear I watched a seven hour film once and didn't got as bored as in Megalopolis

That film was so bad

[sturdy mango]

Hi

Peanuts

[high raven]

I recently watched Avatar 3 too, it was also bad, a know "great" director doesn't make up for it

[sonic lion]

How are we the almost the same age and I feel like a grumpy old lady next to you

[sonic lion]

For sure

[sturdy mango]

Epic

[thorny steeple]

i gave it 3.5

[sonic lion]

PTA is also a great director but One Battle was just shitty

[thorny steeple]

😭

[sturdy mango]

Why this song is so underrated

[thorny steeple]

which one you liked?

[sonic lion]

I love the ones he did with Daniel Day Lewis, specially Phantom Thread. Such a sophisticated one

[thorny steeple]

i actually loved the cinematography in that

[high raven]

Me with any song by Léon

[thorny steeple]

there will be blood

[sonic lion]

That's good too

Daniel is such a gem

[thorny steeple]

yea

sorry but i didnt like there will be blood

[sonic lion]

It's okay

[sturdy mango]

No I'm talking about Echoes of you by Mythic melodys

[thorny steeple]

havent watch phantom thread

[sonic lion]

It's a romance

[thorny steeple]

ik

its in my list

[sonic lion]

I loved every second of it

[thorny steeple]

he kinda looks thn in that movie for some reason

[sturdy mango]

U're here since 4 hours

💀💀💀

[thorny steeple]

you liked lean the porfessional 💀

[fallow shard]

What is happening

[sonic lion]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

ig its emma

[sonic lion]

Cinephile talk

[sturdy mango]

Yes you both 💀💀💀

[fallow shard]

What's that

[sonic lion]

Don't even tell me 😭 jjst ruined my sleep

[high raven]

I really did, but I'm talking about Léon, a Swedish pop-artist

[sonic lion]

We're talking about films

[thorny steeple]

licorice pizza is also good but not peak

[sturdy mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871441590453956628/1352596812480905216/image0.gif

[thorny steeple]

by pta

[sonic lion]

Does he sing in swedish or english?

[fallow shard]

Ohhh I can't participate then, I don't watch them that much

[sonic lion]

Dating a minor 😁

Lol how did he even proceeded with that

[sturdy mango]

Epic awesome train is late

[high raven]

English! The majority of Swedish pop artists sing in English to reach a bigger audience

Same goes for Norwegian

[thorny steeple]

btw there was some user criticisms saying the movie exploited underage natelie portman wiht pervy shorts wiht her mini clothes or smth shit

[sonic lion]

That's why we swedish learners can never get immersion 😔

[sonic lion]

Criticism is always welcomed

[thorny steeple]

i want her reaction to it

[pseudo flume]

[high raven]

Yes that's probably true

[thorny steeple]

inherent vice?

[thorny steeple]

and you still liked the film?

[fallow shard]

Swedish is ass language anyways

[sonic lion]

Haven't watched it yet cause I wanna read the novel

[sonic lion]

Lol I think it's sounds so nice

[gloomy frost]

Why?

[thorny steeple]

its a little funny but i didnt liked

[high raven]

I did, been a while since I watched it though

[fallow shard]

I despise it just bcs I was forced to learn it

[sonic lion]

Are you finnish?

[fallow shard]

Yes

[pseudo flume]

Today I encountered a tribe performing a ritual, where a chicken was struck with sticks as part of their sacrificial ceremony

[gloomy frost]

Then it's personal bias.
Not an objectively bad language.

[sonic lion]

I wish I was nordic so I could buy mumin merch

😔

[high raven]

Kentucky flogged chicken

[thorny steeple]

i bet dollars to donut you would like gone girl @sonic lion

[fallow shard]

My personal opinion is objectively right

[sonic lion]

Lol loved it. But in the book Amy is so snob

[fallow shard]

Moomin mugs are great

[thorny steeple]

um i cant simply disagree with that and make it subjective

[pseudo flume]

Hilarious

[sonic lion]

I wanted a little snufkin to hang on my backpack

[thorny steeple]

its woman killing a man so thought you would like

[sonic lion]

Lmfao

[pseudo flume]

Why did you leave provisional council

[sonic lion]

The movie in my profile pic is literally that

But she doesn't have a happy ending 😔

[thorny steeple]

you love it when a man get tortured, tell me

[fallow shard]

Banger idea, I'll do it for myself

[thorny steeple]

your so evil

[sonic lion]

Only evil men

The good ones can go

[thorny steeple]

would you help good ones?

[sonic lion]

Nick deserved it he was pathetic

[thorny steeple]

whats the critieria for you to consider a man good?

[sonic lion]

He owned a bar and watched Adam Sandler like??? Bro you gotta go

[sonic lion]

Snufkin

https://tenor.com/view/snufkin-moomin-gif-7141863691611271754

Be him

[thorny steeple]

so its not even a real guy

[sonic lion]

And you'll be fine

[thorny steeple]

😭

[sonic lion]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

am i good guy?

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/moomin-girl-walking-and-turning-around-kogan-little-my-gif-25155064

[sonic lion]

Definitely not

[thorny steeple]

basd on our standard?

[thorny steeple]

😭

[high raven]

Moomins was great

[thorny steeple]

no hesitations

[sonic lion]

I would show my kids that

So kind and magical

[fallow shard]

Definitely my favourite character

[sonic lion]

She's so life affirming

[thorny steeple]

12 years a slave

[fallow shard]

Dude was always gone

[sonic lion]

Movies to white people watch and realize slavery was bad

[thorny steeple]

well even i cant watch it

its too painful

[sonic lion]

He gets it

[sonic lion]

Yeah it is

[thorny steeple]

hes literally talking to a raccon

[thorny steeple]

what should i do to be a good guy based on your standards?

[fallow shard]

He's just like me

[urban swift]

Understandable

[sonic lion]

First you need to read feminist theory bro educate yourself

[thorny steeple]

second?

[urban swift]

Same pinch 🤜 🤛

[quaint anchor]

[sonic lion]

Get better movie taste

[thorny steeple]

third???

[sonic lion]

Change that animeass profile pic

And never speak again

[urban swift]

Dude

[fallow shard]

I hate these medicine homeworks

[sonic lion]

It's a prank!!! I'm prank8ng!!!! Don't worry

[thorny steeple]

still waitin for a constructive criticism

[quaint anchor]

[sonic lion]

Just imagine you're Victor Frankenstein studying in Geneva to create life from death

[urban swift]

https://tenor.com/view/waking-up-gif-3726619665319815610

[fallow shard]

I'm too uneducated to know who that is

[cerulean pivot]

What do you study

[thorny steeple]

you dont know Frankenstein monster?

[fallow shard]

Nursing

[gloomy frost]

Incorrect.
That's not how it works, It's like saying 1 + 1 is not equal to 2 because you didn't liked it.

[cerulean pivot]

Yooo that's sick

[urban swift]

https://tenor.com/view/goog-smoke-blow-nod-frankenstein-gif-16671437

[fallow shard]

Ohh I read the name wrong💀

[sonic lion]

Lmao honestly just read the theory, that's actually a good constructive criticism. Then try to be more in contact with different perspectives, be open to novelty and just be a good person, try acting with love, read Rilke

[thorny steeple]

what are my bad quailties

[fallow shard]

Gonna hit my head to the table soon

[sonic lion]

I actually meant Victor Frankenstein, the doctor

He was the embodiment of the enlightenment period

[cerulean pivot]

noooooo

[sonic lion]

He was passionate about knowledge and inventions

[sonic lion]

All of them

Just kidding

[urban swift]

https://tenor.com/view/you-were-henry-frankenstein-doctor-waldman-frankenstein-you-were-mistaken-gif-18799198

[fallow shard]

I need to search meds and give somewhat diagnosis what patient could possibly have

[sonic lion]

I don't know you well enough plus you shouldn't trust a stranger to tell how you should be

[urban swift]

Idk tbh

[thorny steeple]

dw

[cerulean pivot]

What's the subject called

[urban swift]

He's under your spell

[cerulean pivot]

Pharmacology?

[high raven]

Sidetracked but this reminded me of one our first classes in uni where the professor just asked us to prove that 1+1=2

[sonic lion]

Majored in mathematics?

Honestly that seems crazy for a first day

[fallow shard]

Yea, I need to learn all these meds and what they do

[quaint anchor]

And how you proved?

[sonic lion]

Proving something mathematically must be a nightmare

[cerulean pivot]

I'm gonna take my first pharma course this semester
It's really hard as they say
Wish u luck 🤞🏻

[high raven]

Applied statistics, 1 and a half years were pure mathematics though

[high raven]

No one did, he just wanted to gauge what we knew

[fallow shard]

It's not that hard, it's just annoying

[high raven]

And how we'd try to solve what we didn't

[sonic lion]

I heard pure mathematics is the poetry of maths

[thorny steeple]

I won't change, I just wanted to know a different perception, I change my self bc of a women then I won't be a man then

im being a man by not listening and don't doing what you tell me to do

[cerulean pivot]

Cuz u study nursing
I study pharmacy

[quaint anchor]

Oh ok

[thorny steeple]

maths is just a study of numbers

[sonic lion]

So you're taking my beautiful advice and doing the opposite? You're the devil

[fallow shard]

Yea that's little different, try to have fun bcs I can't guarantee that u would

[quaint anchor]

Got it

[thorny steeple]

thats what a man does

😛

[sonic lion]

Some math don't even have numbers

[thorny steeple]

like?

[urban swift]

2 dispirins please

[sonic lion]

Topology

I gu2ss

[thorny steeple]

im bored

[sonic lion]

You're easily bored

[thorny steeple]

"Easily"

its been 6 hours talking to u

wow the audacity

[sonic lion]

So it's everyone from this 1960-

[sonic lion]

Damn

[thorny steeple]

😭 it was 1990s

[sonic lion]

We need to sleep

[sonic lion]

I meant everyone who grew up watching television is easily bored

[thorny steeple]

sorry miss but im better alone

[sonic lion]

Form 60s till now

[sonic lion]

Ha ha ha

[thorny steeple]

you might not trust me what i do

while im sleeping

by your own admission im a devil

[sonic lion]

What's that supposed to mean

☠️

[fallow shard]

6???

[thorny steeple]

would be more then that

probaby 7

[fallow shard]

You need life

So does Emma

[thorny steeple]

yes now this is what i call eqaulity

im kinda bored but not sleepy

[fallow shard]

U both deserved it😭

[sleek sparrow]

how serious are you

[thorny steeple]

if its only eqaul im all for it

[fallow shard]

Some wouldn't like it

[thorny steeple]

do you know damn shawty?

[fallow shard]

Yea

[thorny steeple]

guess what

[fallow shard]

No

[thorny steeple]

yes sir

[fallow shard]

Omg

[thorny steeple]

yessir

[fallow shard]

That explains everything

[thorny steeple]

sadly i lost all my gifs

[fallow shard]

That's probably for the best

[thorny steeple]

???

explains whats

[fallow shard]

[thorny steeple]

are you happy to see me

or...

[fallow shard]

Neutral ig

[thorny steeple]

brah

wth

@sonic lion

you asleep?

[fallow shard]

Hope she went to sleep

[thorny steeple]

hope not

cus im not sleepy

ikr

are you indian?

so am i

modi doin nun

thats what dicators do

[sturdy mango]

Epic

[sturdy mango]

Modi destroying inside , inviting outsiders to destroy more

[thorny steeple]

this is egying me

[sturdy mango]

That's not how u judge ur enemies

Bolne ki baatein hai.

[thorny steeple]

fr fuck chinese women

[sturdy mango]

Well what billions of people will do

[thorny steeple]

[sturdy mango]

Mostly using chinese products only

You should be realistic when u talk

Fk this fk that won't help

What u think

Is this even possible

Epic

[thorny steeple]

a lion conern himself for the tiger

[sturdy mango]

That's not possible at all first of all, if u say all people leave their home and go to chinese border

Talking is easy that I'll sacrifice my life for india but ppl won't when it needed

I never said that

That's ur expectations ppl won't do anything plz talk realistic sometimes this shi sounds so idiotic

Modi is ruining india ppl do 3 4 days protest and forget

I am not a minister or smtg

Fine bro

[thorny steeple]

@fallow shard wo

yo

Where did that mysandrist go?

[fallow shard]

Heo

[thorny steeple]

you know whom im talking about

[fallow shard]

Not really

[thorny steeple]

emma

[fallow shard]

How was she misandrist

[thorny steeple]

cus if she gets a change shes gonna walk on me with heels

[fallow shard]

Lowk deserved

[thorny steeple]

but i cant let this happen, my ego bigger then her heels

[fallow shard]

I'll just ignore that

[thorny steeple]

so she sleepy?

[fallow shard]

Probably yes

[thorny steeple]

whose gonna talk to me

[fallow shard]

Go to sleep

[thorny steeple]

im not sleepy

im not sleepy joe

[fallow shard]

Go for walk

That's fun

[frozen ledge]

What do you want to talk about?

[thorny steeple]

[fallow shard]

I'll go skiing soon

[thorny steeple]

send pictures

[fallow shard]

If I remember

[austere moat]

Deadchat

[fallow shard]

Always is

[lavish finch]

Trump declared that he will take Greenland because he did not get the nobel prize.

[cerulean pivot]

Reasonable crashout

[lavish finch]

Here is the letter he wrote regarding his feelings.

He now no longer feels an obligation to think only of peace.

He has also initiated a project named The Board of Peace to replace the United Nations.

[feral river]

you understand that Greenland is very strategically and economically important to the United States I assume ?

this is the new territory that you could go through the ocean of your ships into the new route of sailing

who control this region who win the advantage and leverage over the entire global trading system

and who continue to control the whole world

even by the means of war, United States of America must control this region for all interest not only for few capitalists and bureaucrats, but for all of America

this is what it makes America great again

even if they are going to abolish the UN or do anything like go to war with Denmark, they must do that for the country

in this case, for maximize the national interest, support Trump unconditionally should be one of the civil duty as a US citizen

🇺🇸

[high raven]

Minecraft you're Chinese not American

[urban swift]

sad xi jinping noises

[hoary glen]

In reality, if the US were to occupy Greenland, it would be advantageous for China

[lavish finch]

War with an ally is self sabotage.

[lavish finch]

Unconditional support is not civic duty.

The constitution places limits on executive power.

It provides for the right and obligation to dissent.

Unconditional loyalty is not patriotism. It is authoritarian logic.

[feral river]

an ally was a diplomatic stance towards another country was for provide the best interest for the country

an ally could be an enemy by the situation changes

in this situation, Denmark government is the enemy

[lavish finch]

The “great powers must dominate or perish” worldview treats cooperation as weakness.

[feral river]

they may not perish but they have to dominate the rest of all for maximize the national interest

if you can't dominate it, China and Russia will take it

and in that situation I doubt if America would have a little bit leverage against anyone

this is a survival struggle of the nations

if you are not taking it, others will

[lavish finch]

Every empire claims that expansion is defensive.

[thorny steeple]

ur gya

minecraft is gay

[feral river]

what it claim was all used for maximize the interest as what specific in cases of war that would lower resistance as much as possible

what you claim for a war defines who is your enemy

[lavish finch]

National interest means the interest of the state and corporate elites, not the population.

[feral river]

it ultimately benefit the population in a capitalist system

[lavish finch]

Ordinary Americans do not benefit from wars of aggression.

[feral river]

without USD dominance you can't even travel to other countries with a low cost

national strength benefit its citizen

a random piece of Africa doesn't have any leverage and any industry or anything do you expect others to respect them ?

without American dominance and you probably don't even know what is universal value

[shell hemlock]

Realest

[feral river]

I'm a Chinese American

my heart is under the red party

both Chinese Communist Party and Republican Party is red

🇺🇸 🇨🇳

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[feral river]

God Bless the United States of America

Long Live the People's Republic of China

[thorny steeple]

ccp and libertarian is blue

[wind zephyr]

Hm

Chinese migrated to usa for freedom

[lavish finch]

By your logic weaker countries deserve domination because they lack leverage.

[feral river]

aren't they already being dominated which you didn't realize it ?

they were dominated since the end of the WW2

and they were dominated till now

[fallow shard]

If America takes Greenland do they kick out the Greenlanders out of the country bcs they're not American

[thorny steeple]

everytime you name ccp a angel gets her period

[lavish finch]

This is the exact argument that European empires used to carve up Africa and Asia (including China) producing mass death, instability and underdevelopment.

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[feral river]

the real situation is, if it's for maximize the interest of America, to prolong the foreign policy of intervention, you have to dominate them and cause more conflict and wars for American national interest

that is the reality

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[feral river]

and they are doing exactly what I'm stating for

[lavish finch]

You're not describing reality, you're framing a moral choice. But if power determines sovereignty then you endorse colonialism, slavery, wars of aggression and every other state crime from the past 200 years.

[feral river]

that was also for their own interest to make their own country prosperous, some worked some did not work

[feral river]

you are taking a position that is not a first place in favor of the interest of the US

I'm taking a position that in what case you could maximize for the interest of the country

[lavish finch]

Empires can be extremely dominant while domestic inequality rises.

[feral river]

to solve domestic inequality, one effective solution is to create more wealth from outside of the world

and to create them, you need intervention

and domination

at least it really alleviate that from happening

for the most socialism path of improving distribution case, you are heading fast to communism

that ultimate path was planned economy, socialism and totalitarian control

in that case everybody is equal, equally poor

[lavish finch]

The US did not need to invade allies or annex territory to establish reserve-currency status. That arose from post-war institutions, stability and trust.

[woven quail]

When USA gonna bomb iran

[feral river]

that trust did establish based on how US is going to guide they were building for, it is not a 0 price thing

actually they paid a lot by build their nation on US dominance and give the ultimate financial privilege to FRS that force them to use USD for global trading

as you could literally print money by creating deficit to generate tremendous wealth out of nothing

that does not even affect you very much from the inflation

[lavish finch]

You're arguing that domination is inevitable.

[feral river]

I am, and it is exactly how it happened

it's undeniably that domination is required for a country to be a global power

and it is the best for its interest

we are not talking how a country should exist under the moral framework I didn't argue that

and world did not look like that

you can't have domination while avoid causing war, suffer, starvation, disaster

that situation never happened

[lavish finch]

Saying domination already exists does not justify continuing it.

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[wind zephyr]

U are teacher here

Nice to meet u

🙏

[feral river]

it's my personal empirical observation and based on general analysis with my personality factors, I would decide to ignore moral framework at all, and I'll do the best for the country only regardless its means of achieving certain objectives

using bombs or using bread, doesn't matter

that's my stance

[high raven]

Would it be possible to use stale baguettes as bombs? If the hardiness is enough, they could achieve a small kinetic energy

[feral river]

with a C4 inside of it I don't mind to use that

[toxic lake]

I only heard they can be used as sword but you can try to use it as bomb. I'd like to see it.

[high raven]

You wouldn't need explosives if it carries enough kinetic energy, I think the main issue would be heat dissipation when re-entering the atmosphere

We must contact the French to discuss this

[lavish finch]

"best for the country" implies a moral framework committed to values. what are the values implicit in your arguments in favor of domination; survival is better than collapse, power is better than vulnerability, control is better than cooperation.

[toxic lake]

are you talking about bomb or nuke?

[lavish finch]

Without defining what "best for the country" means, it can mean anything. You might call total war, total ecological collapse and nuclear oblivion best for the country if it increases dominance in the short term.

[feral river]

what only defines the 'best' was in contributing the most national power projection

based on that we may have a lot of factors to sort over, from military, economy etc.

for example a number of the nuclear weapons possess is a very important factor that defines your power projection

the attacking range of the missile, the GDP, federal reserve, all defines the national power projection

it is not a concept that is in long term or short term, but a current concept which will affect the future in general

your national power projection defines what you are going to do in short term and long term

[lavish finch]

A strategy that increases the chances of total systemic collapse is not power maximizing.

[feral river]

You might prove such case with a hard situation but in case of possibility you can’t simply say that increase national power equals to getting close to systemic collapse

[high raven]

Minecraft said "Bomb or bread" and it made me think if you can use bread as bombs for re-entry instead of nukes. The formula for kinetic energy is KE = 0.5 × m × v × v. If you assume that one baguette is 0.25kg with a re-entry speed of 7000 m/s that becomes KE = 0.5 × 0.25 × 7,000 × 7,000 which gives us an estimated kinetic energy of around 6.1 MJ for just one baguette, even though a MIRV can carry several. 6.1 MJ isn't a lot as it's roughly the energy of 1.5 KG of TNT

Interesting nonetheless

[feral river]

Actually more national power you have basically defines how much flexibility you have and how much damage you could endure in case of war or diaster

or make it easier, the hard power is a basis of how a country could be exist as its the fundamental rule of survival

You may claim the path of getting the ultimate power is bloody, is immoral

That make sense

[toxic lake]

You seems forget about air resistant. That bread will burn to crisp before reach earth surface. Nonetheless the price of making baguette is cheaper than making a bomb so, continue your research, sir. 🫡

[high raven]

#🧠｜serious-chat message I didn't account for it, that's an issue for the French

[feral river]

the hard power and national power projection is the factor that defines if you could realize any of your value

[lavish finch]

Power is a tool, not a goal.

[feral river]

both capitalism, communism, or even fascism need power

[feral river]

well value is a tool, not a goal

it is totally idealism to think that power cannot be a goal

actually power is a goal that why struggle between nations and countries exist

[lavish finch]

You seem to believe that power can be maximized without reference to anything else. But power must be constrained by some notion of success or else it becomes self justifying and directionless.

[feral river]

if you mean that the country got too much power which did not benefit its citizen but use this power and abuse this power to bully the citizen or impose a tyrant rule, I mean if that's why to reach the ultimate power, I don't think there's a problem

but currently it isn't

this way did not led to ultimate power, but total destruction

[lavish finch]

A goal tells you when to stop. Power doesn't tell you when to stop.

[feral river]

power struggle never have to stop and it will be non-stop for maximize the interest of whoever has the most power

winner takes all is the only rule

this is the world that survival for the fittest

[sharp creek]

you should tell that to your president, not some crazy guy on the internet

hahahah we are going to come after you together

[lavish finch]

These claims contradict each other if power seeking can destroy the system which is why I say that power seeking must be constrained by something to avoiding cancelling itself out.

[high raven]

What if they try to take over China?

[lavish finch]

A real goal has a success condition and a stopping condition. Power is not a real goal because power struggles do not end and can therefore justify endless war, ecological collapse and eventual self annihilation.

[high rapids]

Europe, Asia and the US should fight against the rest of the world

[feral river]

power never cancel itself, but who has no qualification to hold it

[lavish finch]

Now you're saying that survival is the goal and power is the tool which makes survival possible which is a different argument. You're now admitting that extinction is failure and stability matters.

[high rapids]

Did you vote for Trump?

[lavish finch]

Power requires people, institutions, living ecological systems.

[sharp creek]

he cant response those practical question directly.
because he claimed "power isnt a real goal", while his country is annexing other land.

[feral river]

survival for the fittest does not indicate the power struggle but if you explain in that way I would say who holds the most power who is the fittest

power is what defines a person fittest in struggle of survival

that make perfect sense in reality

[sharp creek]

The Chinese guy is much more honest by comparison

[high rapids]

Europe US and China should dominate the world

Colonize Africa again

[sharp creek]

whats wrong with you, why do you desire to be dominated

i can dominate you, if you agree

[feral river]

power does not require anything, even without human, why human dominated the earth

because human holds the most power than ever and any other species

that's the only reason that human dominated the entire earth

in a struggle between persons, who has the most power, wins

in a struggle between countries, who has the most power wins

power defines who could win and who dominate the other

[lavish finch]

If power is the definition of fitness then "survival of the fittest" is a tautological argument, like saying the ones who survive are the ones who survive. Or the fit ones are fit. Or the ones with power have power.

[urban swift]

Are you from Africa

[high rapids]

no

[urban swift]

Where you from

And why you desire it

[high rapids]

Austria

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-world-war-2-world-war-ii-timelapse-day-by-day-gif-3278449487780221065

[sharp creek]

.............crazy

[urban swift]

@high rapids

[high rapids]

Why not

[urban swift]

No purpose?

[high rapids]

yes

[urban swift]

Your request is shallow

[high rapids]

Nope

[sharp creek]

most foreigners are belligerent

crazy world

[high rapids]

fleeing as a migrant to Europe or US and attacking people is crazy

[feral river]

in a struggle, that the fittest person is decided because of the power leverage it holds the most leverage in favor of winning the survival struggle, it never indicate the ultimate result, but based on the result you have the answer of why this person have survived in the struggle as what could be defined as power

the power is never only about the force

it is about everything that you could gain advantage and leverage from a struggle

[urban swift]

What you consider a foreigner

[feral river]

you can't only count who has the bigger gun but who has more guns ? who has more manpower, who has more airforce or aircraft, or who has more nukes, who holds more economic power and resources

[sharp creek]

there are criminals everywhere, but i hate them too

[pseudo flume]

Bangladeshis

[sharp creek]

we love peace , whatever happens

[urban swift]

https://tenor.com/view/taheri-gifgari-bangla-gif-gifgari-taheri-bangladesh-gif-18019350

[gloomy frost]

Damn

[pseudo flume]

Epic fail btw

[sharp creek]

hahahahahahaha i saw it

[lavish finch]

The argument is circular. Who survives? the fittest. Who is the fittest? the ones with the most leverage. How do we know who had the most leverage? They survived. A theory that can only explain outcomes after they happen is just a restatement of results, not a theory of cause and effect. Yes, survival and dominance depend on different kinds of leverage. But for a framework to be useful is must tell us which strategies will increase the chances of survival and which strategies will increase the risk of collapse. Otherwise survival is a meaningless term that cannot guide decision making.

[gloomy frost]

By mental model, I mean the cognitive cage that defines what a person can think, feel, and choose often without realizing they’re confined.
Basically, mental models are sort of cage.
The bars, assumptions you don’t question.
The shape, what thoughts are even allowed to form.
And you may ask why even let yourself be in a cage.
Simple really for logic to even begin, you need to assume this is reality, You are alive, And many more assumptions.
Without mental model for what I like to call it, Cage, you can't even begin to form coherent thoughts.
Why I use cage deliberately.
A cage isn’t always oppressive in appearance.
Some cages are comfortable.
Some are rewarded.
Some are called morality, identity, empathy, or normality.
But there's a rule in every cage, you can't move freely without punishment.
There're different kind of punishments and their forms differ.
This is where distinction is easier to make.
Freedom is not absense of punishment in internal mental model, It's authorship over it.
So you punish yourself before actions which you restrict in an internal model.
Unlike external model, where you are not punished by your own mind, rather external factors first.
External / unexamined model, violation triggers shame, guilt, fear.
Internal / authored model violation reveals. trade-offs, risks, and losses.
So if the driving force for not doing an action is shame, guilt or fear, you are operating on a external model.
And if the driving force for not doing an action is trade-offs, risk, and losses, The model is internal.

No, I am talking about something else.

[feral river]

well, a framework to be useful is based on maximizing the leverage that you have which is the power to ensure you could increase the chance of survival

because in a struggle survival, who has the most power, wins

[fresh flower]

LRWEITP

[feral river]

power is exactly the most important factor that you should decide what framework to be adopted in a survival struggle

[lavish finch]

You seem to accept a win condition which is defined by total collapse.

[fresh flower]

He who have red bull energy drink and a Twix holds the power

[gloomy frost]

No, Incorrect, a framework should focus meeting the necessity of a individual.
If you try to gain power beyond your needs, People will try to attack and interrupt your framework.

[feral river]

a win condition is confirmed when the struggle of survival cease to exist, which did exist right now

[gloomy frost]

Your chance of survival decreases if you don't use deception and try to take too much power.

[feral river]

the result might be total destruction or other results, we don't know

[gloomy frost]

There's a sweetspot.

[feral river]

we all need to ensure we have to win, for now

for our own survive

[fresh flower]

Where are the people with a job I want meal prep lunch ideas

[gloomy frost]

Victory and defeat are irrelevant, What's important is gain and losses.

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[gloomy frost]

Even if you "win" the battle, it might cause unnecessary loss.

[wind zephyr]

This chat is full of nerds

[fresh flower]

Mind your tone I have a 1.98 KD ratio on bf6

[wind zephyr]

...

I don't understand 1.98kd on bf6

[high rapids]

I´m Emerald 2 rank in league of legends

[wind zephyr]

...

Game ranks?

I am 1100 elo

[fresh flower]

I better not see you in fortnite

[high rapids]

HAHAHAHA

[wind zephyr]

Oh waste of time

[fresh flower]

Fortnite is intellectually more challenging than chess

[high rapids]

@real lily 3 pings

[wind zephyr]

._? Chess is headache whereas Fortnite is fun

@real lily now 4

[fresh flower]

Fortnite is much more difficult than chess

95% of chess is memorising openings, there is nothing else to it, the remainder is stress

[wind zephyr]

No , chess has quadrillion postions

[wind zephyr]

-_-

[fresh flower]

Fortnite is objectively more challenging because it tests memorisation for building, spatial awareness, reactions and EQ through the ability to work well as a duo

[wind zephyr]

Let me google

[fresh flower]

True intellectuals do not play chess

[wind zephyr]

Neither chess nor Fortnite is objectively "tougher"; they demand different skills, with chess requiring immense strategic depth, pattern recognition, and deep knowledge, while Fortnite demands high-speed reflexes, aim, building, and quick decision-making under pressure, with top players in both games displaying god-tier skills but in distinct arenas. Chess mastery involves vast theoretical stud

[fresh flower]

Smartest chess player resorting to AI

Case closed

[wind zephyr]

Yes

Computers are far better than human

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/momo-momo-the-cat-momo-really-momo-the-cat-really-momo-right-in-front-of-my-momo-gif-2750986621838017229

[fresh flower]

"Computers are better at computing"

Who would've thought

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[fresh flower]

No, I know that blind folks can use Braille for chess though

Yeah that kinda adds to my point, 95% of chess is just memorisation. I've seen a few people use ELO in chess as a metric for intelligence, like no bro you just memorised openings

[high rapids]

Why from non-Indian countries

Isn't it kind of strange to join a Discord server just to get people's email addresses so you can scam them?

[gloomy frost]

how did you prove it?

[high rapids]

go work and buy the acces to use it

and get the fuck out of here

[brittle geyser]

Pffft

[gloomy frost]

._. not funny blud.

[high raven]

Oh we didn't, he just wanted to see how we'd go about thinking about it

[high rapids]

nobody needs to like me on discord

also in irl i don´t care if someone likes me

[high raven]

1+1=2 is more difficult to prove than what some people realise

[gloomy frost]

questioning beliefs ehh?

[gloomy frost]

It is, Because if you try to disprove you might end up seeing the cognitive cage that exists for everyone.

As even logic itself requires assumptions.

[thorny steeple]

Can I donate you money?

Well then I kinda believe you

[forest moat]

i am really confused bc how obvious is that "non-indian" 🥲😭

[brittle geyser]

Its the 'Tell me you're running a scam without telling me you're running a scam' 101

[tranquil vault]

Guys he's helping people
He just needs the cards expiration date and the funny numbers on the back

[brittle geyser]

Ohhhh, so he's just like those Nigerian princes, just your average friendly philanthropic wealth redistributor

'I want to save the world, I just need your money to do it!'

[tranquil vault]

But it's real this time

Trust him

[brittle geyser]

[high rapids]

he is gone

[lavish finch]

what are numbers? numbers are roles in a system of rules.

a starting point and a defined number of steps to the next point

they are positions

and they have definitions

similar to the pieces on a chess board

positions in a structure

[brittle geyser]

I did see that. Pity there's not a roasting channel for people like that to get locked in before banning.

[tranquil vault]

Either you're just saying things or I'm a dumbass

Wtf does that mean

When humans invented math they didn't invent this abstract bull

[brittle geyser]

He's explaining the concept of numerals, and their behaviours and positions. Math becomes more abstract the more you delve into the whys and wherefores

[brittle geyser]

The beginning of something is rarely as complex as later iterations

[tranquil vault]

I understand that at a certain point you need to delve deep to understand it.
But not for 1+1💀💀

[lavish finch]

It's true that math originally was used for more practical applications. counting sheep, days, dept. the abstraction came later when people tried to understand and explain why counting works

[tranquil vault]

This is what i mean.
Why wouldn't counting work? Why do we need to explain it?

[brittle geyser]

Understanding why 1+1=2 is fundamental to more complex ideas like physics and calculus. The whole structure depends on certain things remaining true.

[lavish finch]

If you sincerely interested I suggest the book Intro to mathematical philosophy

[tranquil vault]

Imma give it a quick read👍👍

[brittle geyser]

Hell, the device you're using depends on it. Computers are basically just math.

[tranquil vault]

But that's why axioms are there...so we don't have to prove the building blocks

[brittle geyser]

Yeah, but who made those axioms, and how? Someone, somewhere, had to ask why, and then show it

[lavish finch]

explaining what counting means prevents it from making errors at more complex levels. 1+1 might be intuitive but when you start dealing with zero, negatives, fractions and infinity intuition becomes harder and explanation becomes necessary.

[feral river]

https://x.com/remarks/status/2012968671065276918?s=46

Remarks (@remarks)

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Deportation now

[lavish finch]

For example, imagine a hotel room with infinite rooms numbered 1, 2, 3, 4...
every room is full. no vacancies. a new guest arrives. what happens?

[tranquil vault]

Yes but at some point when we reach deep enough you can never explain the basic foundations for maths because you'll need maths to do so
So you have to just accept certain stuff

[lavish finch]

that's right. at a point you hit axioms where you don't prove, you assume.

[tranquil vault]

I know about the infinite hotel and i understand that infinity is abstract. But most maths isn't. I don't see the need to just make it vague

[tranquil vault]

It's 300+ pages😭😭

[brittle geyser]

I don't have any sort of deep background in math, but I have picked up a bit of the theory. And yes, at some point we have to just scratch our heads and go 'this works, and we don't know why yet, so just go with it for now til a new mind comes along with a different perspective.'

[upper peak]

Omg 👀

[fallow shard]

It's book😭

[upper peak]

What's going on here?

[brittle geyser]

Humans ever build upon the foundations laid by earlier minds. So perhaps what we call axioms today will be proven rather than assumed at a later point. Which would be cool

[lavish finch]

Let's review the basics. 1. math is about logic, not intuition. 2. numbers are not things. they are logical constructions. 3. definitions replace intution. 4. order and relations come before counting. 5. infinity is unavoidable but manageable. 6. paradoxes are warnings.

finally;
abstraction helps us to stop arguing about what "obvious" means.

[tranquil vault]

No way!!!

[fallow shard]

Why are u surprised it's long

[gloomy frost]

300+ pages aren't that long.
Depending on if you are actually interested in the subject.

[tranquil vault]

Yall are making me feel incompetent

[cerulean pivot]

It's long
Don't underestimate your capabilities

[lavish finch]

+1

[gloomy frost]

Not the capability issue, Rather interest issue.

[tranquil vault]

Yeah i agree

[high raven]

Look into it, it's a really fun head scratcher, there's several YouTube videos on Russell's paradox

[thorny coral]

Yeah totally if you are interested 300+ pages are like nothing

[trim veldt]

#villain-event message

[high rapids]

@abstract night hello sir how are you

I´m glad too hear that, I´m doing well thanks for asking

Nope wbu?

[rugged gyro]

Hi people

[gloomy frost]

[gloomy frost]

No.

[solemn pawn]

Everyone making a big deal over moroco team stealing towels from the Senegal gatekeeper but am I the only one that think this is a bit hilarious

[thorny steeple]

AI

[coral belfry]

yeah it looks very "AI"

[solemn pawn]

Ya but it did happened

[autumn rose]

I thought it is black magic or some shi

[solemn pawn]

Lol

I find it very useless cuz senegal gatekeeper is trash anyway

All shots were ez to block

[autumn rose]

In Africa u shoulda expect everything

[solemn pawn]

What a useless mov

[thorny steeple]

they won a towel with ribbon?

[gloomy frost]

That's a long ass name.

[autumn rose]

Anyways Senegal deserved the champion

[solemn pawn]

💯

[autumn rose]

Btw where come from?

[thorny steeple]

uranus

[solemn pawn]

Morocco

[autumn rose]

Seriously?

[solemn pawn]

Ya

Wby

[autumn rose]

U guys are everywhere nowadays

Guess where

[solemn pawn]

Let me guess

[autumn rose]

Well

[solemn pawn]

Italy

France

Spain?

[autumn rose]

Are u trippin or some?

[solemn pawn]

How so?

[autumn rose]

Im ur neighborhood

Next to u

Don't go so far tho

[solemn pawn]

You're from Algeria?

[autumn rose]

Hellll yeah

[solemn pawn]

Nice to meeet you brother!

Big respect and I hope for the decline of hate between us

[autumn rose]

Glad to hear that

[autumn rose]

It's just social media. Nothing can be real tho

U guys are kinda our family

[solemn pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/corada-gif-10410685721708433315

[autumn rose]

don't take it asa compliment

[tiny crag]

😃 👋

[autumn rose]

Real talk