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manic juniper
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Yes they didn't, Spanish colonialism focused on increasing the amount of taxpayers and expanding the empire which is what everybody did, they were just amongst the top of their times

cerulean pivot
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Babylonians did a lot to jews but they don't mention them in current time

slender coral
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The scales were huge too. Ancient and medieval people didn't have the technology to kill so many, populations were small as well.

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manic juniper
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manic juniper
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The fact that Romania exists derives from how many Dacian men were killed and Romans settled there, completely changing the demographics even once the Romans abandoned Dacia

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manic juniper
turbid dome
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There was just less bad ones

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manic juniper
neon sierra
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@mint parrot whats happening now 😭😭😭

neon sierra
mint parrot
neon sierra
mint parrot
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And they are about to bomb tabqa

mint parrot
neon sierra
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yeah ig so too

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but we will see

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he had a call with mazloum abdi

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he talked to us as well I think

mint parrot
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Those Syrian during stealing gas they got caught 😭

neon sierra
thorny steeple
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velvet plover
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Hi

last geyser
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HI GUYS

wet iron
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the miidel east if full of exstramists and terroists

high igloo
fallow shard
fallow shard
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Smh

wet iron
fallow shard
wet iron
wet iron
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100% pure blood American šŸ¦…

fallow shard
wet iron
high raven
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100% just means you're inbred

fallow shard
wet iron
fallow shard
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Fym indigenous hobos

high raven
prisma cipher
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That beach need to chill, she so obsessed with Russia šŸ˜‚

fallow shard
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She might be American after all

turbid dome
fallow shard
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fallow shard
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Bcs we're quite experienced at it

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high raven
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Idk though, I could be wrong

high rapids
fresh flower
fallow shard
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I love whole Europe seems to be against America, having common enemy is fun. Europe just chooses to be enemy w like biggest countries out there so waiting for it to backfirechilling

high raven
fresh flower
steep bloom
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USA and eu union are best friends. "Fight" is staged

feral river
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because it is violating the law

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feral river
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that's why I said besides what could violate the law

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it is

feral river
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inside the framework of the law you are free to dress whatever you want

fresh flower
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Trump isn't the problem

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Americans are

feral river
fallow shard
# steep bloom Why

He just rambles things so it's just about time he thinks it's good idea yo attack Germany or something. He's more unstable that my grandma was w Alzheimer's

high rapids
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@fresh flower Are there also court cases against p*do hunters in Sweden?

fresh flower
# high rapids

It's as bad to commit a crime as it is to let one happen

fresh flower
high rapids
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The pursuit of these individuals should be permitted if they are not undergoing therapy.

feral river
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They need a totalitarian regime to solve this permanently

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They need a guy who could suppress them with the iron fist to learn how to respect the authority

fresh flower
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Next election the liberals in the US will push for a Mexican or black woman and then wonder how did they lose the election again

feral river
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That will end democracy

fresh flower
fresh flower
fallow shard
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Maybe it's good idea to Trump be president, never knows he wants to use nukesthink

feral river
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They have the power to take whatever they want

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Greenland, Panama Canal, Cuba, Philippines, Venezuela, Iran, and anywhere etc.

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The American Empire is on its run led by the Greatest American President DJT

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If he won again

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It’s time for them to learn something from the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany

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Not only for us

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Make American Territory Every Corner of The Planet Earth

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Make America Great Again

high raven
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How come you don't mention guns anymore

high rapids
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feral river
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America already had enough guns anyway

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All they need was an order from DC to launch attack

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So they don’t need democracy instead

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I already have the paper on this

fallow shard
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America should attack China, lowk fire idea

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Waiting for that to happen

feral river
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Terminate the freedom of speech, establish total control on media, suspend the constitution, establish single-party rule, start national-wide mobilization, give ultimate power to the only person as the leader, have a cult of personality throughout the country

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And we will have a Great America

covert quiver
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Minecraft bugging out again

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Gonna have to mute him so he chills

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Which he won’t

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But gonna have to no less

high raven
feral river
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I don’t think we have to do this way currently

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We don’t have the enough power to ensure we could take over the whole East Asia easily

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But USA have that

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USA’s war capability is proven in avoid direct fighting with great powers, they could fight the rest of all at the same time without taking very much casualties

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It’s not gonna exceed 1m casualties to have a United States of World

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Then what the heck they are waiting for

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That’s the only problem, they don’t have the order from DC to move the troops

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Soviet Union also made this mistake they thought they could have a great rest after WW2 but no

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Nazi Germany didn’t make this mistake but they don’t have the enough power and resources

burnt galleon
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@wraith vine Yr DMs are closed, so can we talk abt it here?

burnt galleon
wraith vine
# burnt galleon Yep.

I can talk, yes.
Personality usually develops as a response to how we experience life, not randomly. When someone is highly self-aware, it can feel confusing or intense at times, but that awareness is also a strength.
Understanding why you are this way isn’t about changing yourself. It’s about learning how to live in alignment with who you are, and that’s what tends to improve life in a real way.

burnt galleon
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As I said, I wanted to improve my life quality and that happens by learning, not changing my looks.

What you are saying is actually helpful.

burnt galleon
lapis goblet
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That's awesome!

wraith vine
burnt galleon
brittle geyser
brittle geyser
high raven
turbid dome
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Also they love to cheer on exploiting third worlders

burnt galleon
wraith vine
burnt galleon
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But I meant, you can still have an atypical personality even if you’re mentally stable and neurotypical.

fresh flower
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Whats hyposexual

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Are you hypothetically sexual

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burnt galleon
# fresh flower Are you gay

I’m everything and nothing at once.

IDK the proper term, maybe, pansexual. That makes me a lesbian in part.

thorny steeple
burnt galleon
thorny steeple
fresh flower
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I just looked up hyposexual

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Yall already had asexual when did you change it to hyposexual

burnt galleon
# thorny steeple <:creepy:817295588273553418>

Age is irrelavent.

It controls the thing you choose; as everybody who knows basic science: identity and orientation aren’t chosen.

You can be culturally a conformer or at least neutral like me.

thorny steeple
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burnt galleon
thorny steeple
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Tell me, have you had an experience in your life that changed your view of yourself, and why?

thorny steeple
burnt galleon
thorny steeple
lapis goblet
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Keep moving forward.

burnt galleon
fickle yacht
burnt galleon
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I prefer to stay single.

fickle yacht
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sgrt out window and some wd

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thorny steeple
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What does that have to do with that?

fresh flower
thorny steeple
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I don't know what you think, but discussion is about sharing viewpoints, and you're not showing flexibility in that.

fallow shard
fresh flower
thorny steeple
fresh flower
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They can have LGBT not the rest

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burnt galleon
fresh flower
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You know what I mean

thorny steeple
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I don't know what's happened to the world.

fresh flower
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I only hate gays with gay voice and gays who don't have a sense of fashion

burnt galleon
# fresh flower Do you have gay voice

I either use countertenor or baritone.

The countertenor is rare, but it doesn’t sound like a gay, just like a man, but who don’t listen to a lot of songs mistake it for imitation, but it’s just how my throat looks.

thorny steeple
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This is the life

fresh flower
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fresh flower
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What

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I'm not Saudi why would you even guess that

burnt galleon
brazen agate
fresh flower
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I'm broke af

burnt galleon
wraith vine
burnt galleon
high rapids
burnt galleon
# thorny steeple I don't know what you think, but discussion is about sharing viewpoints, and you...

Well, if you are from those who try to prove that I’m a man, a woman, or neither instead of offering either scientific explanation or stuff that can help me live in my current form without perseuction, then the discussion has ended.

My mixed biology allows me to be an exempt, but if I start now, the oppression will be worse (I can think of that in the future); now I need to focus on academe.

I’m seriously in an economic crisis; that’s unrelated to LGBT.

burnt galleon
# burnt galleon I’m confirmed to not be ill.

It can be caused by an actual illness like epilpsy or autism, but it’s not an illness of its own.

Like the ppl who are born with a stomatch that’s structured to like harmful food; they can not eat this specific dish and live normally without distress.

high rapids
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"I’m seriously in an economic crisis" so you have no money

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Maybe go work

thorny steeple
burnt galleon
lapis goblet
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recognized for what?

burnt galleon
sick totem
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Wazzup yo

lofty hound
burnt galleon
lapis goblet
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Ah. Excellent. Okie dokie.

gloomy frost
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If you mean no major trauma or systemic harm, that makes sense.
But literally no negative experiences at all isn’t possible for any human, frustration and limitation are part of cognition itself.

feral river
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also major trauma is caused by cognition itself

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only extreme negative effect that you have defined by cognition would cause trauma

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like I don't believe that any trauma would be upon me if I will be on the battle ground to kill enemies but somebody would because they fear injustice for somebody got killed

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trauma itself is a negative impact that has damage on individual

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to have a powerful mindset you will have a list of crazy things under expect to deal with different situation at any time

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and who doesn't might die when a survival struggle happens, like disaster, war etc.

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war is way close than what you think of

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what could define a powerful ideology as how it was dealing with a survival struggle

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survival for the fittest

gloomy frost
# feral river to have a powerful mindset you will have a list of crazy things under expect to ...

I half expected you to talk about wars.
And I was right.
And Welp let's just say war is not the only worst thing that can happen to a person, There's so many and I mean so many more unthinkable events that can happen that, You will not recover from.
For example, as you like war a lot, what if you get captured by a enemy soldiers, because you can't overpower 50 of them, and they are all let's say, interested in men as men.
Yeah, you know what happens after that.

feral river
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that's what it makes an ideology superior

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you thought I didn't expect to die in a war that was technically incorrect

gloomy frost
feral river
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I expect that anytime of my life that may happens but in return I will get something crazy

gloomy frost
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They want information, and to relief with a man.

feral river
gloomy frost
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As long as they get information out of you, Welp it works.

feral river
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we will see who's really on the higher ground

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in case of war, the side has more strength wins

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I'm lucky to live in a second most powerful country

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and I hold enough power and resource to go to anywhere I want

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this is also a survival struggle

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survival for the fittest

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by the way fueling a war is like what I have done in 2 years ago

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it is not something very special

gloomy frost
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gloomy frost
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Or do you work as a high status working officer?

feral river
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even if you are homeless you could make a simple call for war by your fund and contribution of labor force

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I will just chill in my home and count the revenue through the war

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war machine will goes at its course as the interest group becomes bigger

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don't have to worry too much on that actually

gloomy frost
feral river
feral river
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Or buy the war bill in your country

burnt galleon
feral river
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We all want more war because we are part of the interest groups

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Only more war will bring more profit into our pocket

gloomy frost
dawn igloo
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This guy is declaring war

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I cannot believe my eyes

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I'm joking alr

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Jk jk

feral river
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And 2500 from the company relating to military production

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It’s not a large number but it could go up for a long term

feral river
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A war bill wasn’t so expensive than what you expect

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The lowest amount is 2000 CNY in our country

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But you can buy short portion of it

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So it’s 0

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invest into war is damn easy actually

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and we all push for new war to happen that would boost up the income

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if you live in America that was even more easy

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you don't even have to sign a bunch of paperwork to hand over your money in war companies

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I'm quite happy that DJT came to power and we had more war

gloomy frost
feral river
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The Republican Party

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to be very specific

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And the Democratic Party as well

gloomy frost
feral river
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It’s hard for you to imagine a guy in China as a Chinese citizen could stand in one interest group with the Republican party

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But that’s how modern world works

feral river
gloomy frost
feral river
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I also pay taxes to IRS

feral river
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You don’t need that much to do that job

gloomy frost
feral river
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And Israeli military industrial complex as well

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They all generate significant profit

gloomy frost
feral river
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I support Republicans but for democrats they also have military companies back them

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democrats was more backed by technology companies

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I also invested S&P 500 so nothing need to worry

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my portfolio could generate averagely 20% revenue every year

wary plover
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magic olive
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Minecraft sup

high rapids
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@manic juniper Good Morning just a short question. Would you read russian books? In Finnish or English?

eternal oracle
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@fringe echo So? Which one is it? Do you base your opinions on religion or not?

winged stag
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Christianity also has a history of family betrayal and misconduct being ignored since biblical times, like when Tamar was taken advantage of by her own brother and he basically got away with it.

eternal oracle
# eternal oracle

@fringe echo If you truly believe people are entitled to different views, why do you ā€œhate gay and trans peopleā€?

eternal oracle
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I’m also curious about your name XD @high rapids

slender coral
# eternal oracle

About Islam, I don't think the small fixed rate of Zakat makes it a socialist religion or something lol

high rapids
winged stag
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@fringe echo What do you even expect to get out of saying stuff like that? Trying to evangelize or something?

dense wigeon
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monarchy smh

eternal oracle
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Well I guess you misspoke originally then because you specifically said ā€œI hateā€. It’s easy to get lost in condemnation of those who you don’t understand. I’d advise you to be more compassionate and have love for fellow humans.

Hatred isn’t a disagreement. And a disagreement doesn’t warrant hate speech.

dense wigeon
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isn't crown prince MBS involved in that epstein thing too

magic olive
eternal oracle
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winged stag
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But isn't God the owner of all the gold and silver?

eternal oracle
eternal oracle
# slender coral I guess you could clarify what you meant by redistributing wealth and what you t...

I don’t need to clarify anything because my response was to a previous statement of the person I tagged.

Edit: I realized that I sounded rude. I’ll clarify for you after all and I apologize for being dismissive earlier.

Here is one of the quotes refering to Zakat:

Qur’an 9:60 Ā«Zakat is only for the poor, the needy, those employed to collect it, those whose hearts are to be reconciled, for freeing slaves, for those in debt, for the cause of Allah, and for the stranded traveler.Ā»

Qur’an 9:34–35
ā€œThose who hoard gold and silver and do not spend it in the way of Allah… give them tidings of a painful punishment.ā€
Spending in the way of Allah (in my understanding) means for yourself and the family in order to be healthy, to provide for the community, and also zakat for people in need.

Qur’an 70:24–25
ā€œAnd in their wealth there is a known right for the beggar and the deprived.ā€
This verse specifically points to the importance of using wealth to uplift the poor.

So my question to you is how come you don’t find it a socialist religion? Islam isn’t incompatible with socialism by any means.
@slender coral

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@fringe echo why do you keep deleting your messages šŸ¤”

feral river
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Fact check buddies

feral river
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slender coral
# eternal oracle I don’t need to clarify anything because my response was to a previous statement...

Those are just advice, not structural commands. The system that Islam set did provide support for the poor, but I think saying it's about wealth redistribution is a big false claim, because it simply didn't it only imposed Zakat on all Muslims who can pay it which is a tax with a small fixed rate.
There have been a lot of filthy rich Muslims in the times of Mohamed in and his companions, and while stories about them donating big portions of their wealth to the poor and to the newly formed Islamic state are narrated, the stories are typically framed as moments of virtue not something that rich Muslims must practice.

slender coral
# eternal oracle I don’t need to clarify anything because my response was to a previous statement...

Btw, I think by 9:34-35 you are referring to these verses.

(And those who hoard Kanz gold and silver and spend them not in the way of Allah, announce unto them a painful torment.) 9:34. This is the third category of leaders, for people rely on their scholars, worshippers and the wealthy among them. When these categories of people become corrupt, the society in general becomes corrupt. Ibn Al-Mubarak once said, "What corrupted the religion, except kings and wicked Ahbar [Jewish scholars] and Ruhban [Christian worshipers]." As for Kanz[hoarding wealth], it refers to the wealth on which Zakah has not been paid
https://quran.com/9:34/tafsirs/en-tafisr-ibn-kathir

Quran.com

Read Ibn Kathir (Abridged) for Ayah 34 of Surah At-Tawbah

shy summit
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You guys know we have Politics and Religion as a room to discuss this too right? @slender coral @eternal oracle

slender coral
shy summit
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It is.

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Just don’t start a crusade or anything.

slender coral
slender coral
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I genuinely don't understand

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I mean, I know people use the word crusade to taking shit too seriously and fighting about something, but I was just have a respectful conversation.

thorny steeple
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Same as jihad

pseudo flume
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sharp creek
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because you mentioned about that before , im just curious about that

slender coral
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And an anti-theist as well, obviously.

sharp creek
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sorry, i should update my question, would you comment about certain religions has led women having a lower society status

slender coral
shy summit
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Fr

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The problem with them is that they formed in times and places where patriarchy dominated.

sharp creek
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that makes sense

feral river
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For Greenland, United States could endure any challenge

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If US won, Trump might have a third term

shy summit
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Also why tf would greenlanders vote republican?

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They lean further left than most americans

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Making them a state means you never win again

shy summit
# feral river If US won, Trump might have a third term
true lagoon
feral river
shy summit
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Because of him

feral river
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shy summit
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He’s kinda dumb

feral river
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And they have to develop Greenland by immigration

shy summit
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They’d lose the senate. Forever

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feral river
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There are only 50k of greenlanders which isn’t very much

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If there’s an American immigration flow they could be minorities

shy summit
feral river
shy summit
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Like

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The republicans lose

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In every scenario

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It’s just dumb

feral river
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Like what Britain did to Australia

shy summit
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You have to send them back to the country of origin. Anything else is human trafficking

feral river
urban swift
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Insecure is insecure

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It's not about liking. you're not in command, are you?

shy summit
urban swift
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I don't think feminism is just about wearing shorts.

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I repeat... You do know who hurls personal insults in a debate/discussion, right?

Although you're yet to provide your sources that makes you feel insecure and think that women wearing shorts and crop tops = women walking naked

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Who installed that idea in Your mind ?

shy summit
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I mean being topless is fine if you live somewhere hot.

slender coral
fresh flower
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You do have gay voice

shy summit
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Why? If it’s hot who cares?

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But I do

feral river
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men is way hot than women by looking as a nature pattern

feral river
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even for most other animals, male is generally hot than female

fresh flower
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Neither one, don't try to save him

cerulean pivot
shy summit
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Dont give him an out!

fresh flower
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Wait a min....

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@feral river Do you think Trump is hot

feral river
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fresh flower
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Bro he's BALD😭😭😭

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Raccoon hair

feral river
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feral river
# shy summit Eyo?

in imperial times our emperor does not only have the harem group but also male concubines

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prisma cipher
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How the world has changed, kids in the 90s wanted to have big muscles, but nowadays they think it's disgusting

fresh flower
# pseudo flume

Mashallahi a patch to protect the app from being hacked by devil šŸ™šŸ»

cerulean pivot
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I see the otherwise

fresh flower
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No one wants to look like modern bodybuilders

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HGH-gut and all that, it's disgusting

cerulean pivot
shell hemlock
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I have bods with 2 legs and 2 arms and torso

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Dude it looks like he have ringworms I’m not kidding

fresh flower
pseudo flume
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Someone who lives in Wales

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"it izzz"

thorny steeple
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whats temperature in your house

mint parrot
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For a moment i thought they were pregnant

high raven
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You guys call it yaprax if I remember right

mint parrot
cerulean pivot
high raven
mint parrot
lavish creek
high raven
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Why not?

mint parrot
cerulean pivot
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ARE YOU FRRRR

high raven
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high raven
mint parrot
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gloomy frost
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Nysaz.
Which atheist are you? There are many layers to it, I'd like to know where you belong in it.

magic olive
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Diaz i know you’re watching šŸ‘€

jagged glacier
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Hello

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Do you guys read books.

thorny steeple
slender coral
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I used to be able to in the past, but now I can't

grave drum
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Its impossible to control every man in the universe

shell hemlock
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Why are all chats dead rn

shell hemlock
magic olive
grave drum
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If religion is gone and morality is just a social construct, then morals only exist where consequences exist. That means as long as you don’t get caught, you can still do nefarious things behind closed doors and nothing actually condemns it. No hell, no God and no ultimate accountability, just ā€œhope society doesn’t find out.ā€

slender coral
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Trump being a stupid btch, the usual.

shell hemlock
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When I told them to touch grass I didn’t mean real ones

thorny steeple
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Itching an itch never ends well

manic juniper
shell hemlock
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lowkey got jumped by a bunch of cambodian kpop fans bc i asked who treasure is

fresh flower
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Are you saying that x person doing y bad thing negates a groups view on morals?

shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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No wonder

shell hemlock
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who is a treasure šŸ’€

thorny steeple
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Oh wait she doesn't exist

shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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I'm fall off from moon

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Oh wait gravity catched me

manic juniper
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The only thing I have in common with K-pop stans is liking BTS

grave drum
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Biology explains cooperation, not morality. Ants cooperate too and no one calls them moral agents. ā€œDon’t murderā€ being useful for survival doesn’t make it morally wrong when you can get away with it.

And saying morality existed before religion doesn’t help your argument. That just means religion didn’t invent instincts, it codified them into obligations, rules, and accountability beyond convenience.

Your ā€œreligion keeps reinventing moralityā€ point actually proves mine. Interpretation changes, yes, but the core claims don’t: accountability, judgment, limits even when no one is watching.

Listing bad things written in religious texts or done by religious people is lazy. Humans violating a moral system doesn’t disprove the system. By that logic, laws, science, and secular ideologies are all useless because people abuse them.

And using atrocities ā€œin the name of religionā€ is irrelevant. People did the same under atheistic and secular ideologies. Again: humans, not God.

fresh flower
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At least change it a bit bros just copypaste chatgpt

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Shitposting is a lost art

gloomy frost
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Those are fair points and I understand where you are coming from.
As an non-theist, those are valid arguments.
But you are only looking at negatives of religion.
After through understanding of religion.
As any social framework and structure, has it's trade-offs.
The biggest and foremost benefit of this framework is, social control, societies are under controls and public outbreak is quite low in religious communities.
And you might say the religion is hostile towards other religion because it literally is how it plays it's work.
By making others look like the bad guys, religion provides moral certainty, a sense of superiority and belonging in their religious group.
That alone keeps societies in check.
The second and for me, the biggest reason a person might choose religion is.
Meaning in life, By adopting this framework a person doesn't have to create their own meaning and gain freedom, freedom from nihilism, mental exhaustion, uncertainty, and live life in a meaningful way.
There are many forms of freedom, and this is one of them, with this a person can live comfortable without having to be accountable for their actions at a significant level, Yes accountability still exists but not to a higher extent.
The third benefit is.
One's a person adopts religion as their framework.
Impulses actions are hard to commit, For example being controlled by lust in it's finest form.
Lust is forbidden, and all the self destructive activities are forbidden in religious communities, hence a person cannot fall into distrubing acts.
Although they mostly do it because they can't afford to lose control over citizens because if they commit self destructive activities, they will be harder to control.
So in the end a person can still live a meaningful comfortable life free from mentally monitoring themselves, which has been exhausting for me.

And I am not saying that religion in its framework is the best, as I had stated every framework had it's trade-offs.

thorny steeple
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I legit don't even have to read that para to know it's bullshit

gloomy frost
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And being in religion makes it so, A person loses their individuality, loses self autonomy, and internal voice.
Hence it is not all sunshine and rainbows.

thorny steeple
shell hemlock
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have you guys ever met a person with down syndrome irl

thorny steeple
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Name the disease and I will tell you if I have met them or not

shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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Downsyndrome is common

shell hemlock
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i've never met one irl i'm thinking if it's a propaganda

fresh flower
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I'm talking about this part:
"What is religious morality when church leaders commit despicable crimes, churches were used to incite people against each other, used to put people on trial for having revolutionary ideas? When religion is cited as an excuse to marry children? To burn widow women? To invade others' land to do missionary work?"

Does people doing things negate a groups view on morality or make them more bad? By your own logic we should be racist and homophobic because x amount of people did bad things

shell hemlock
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i'm joking

shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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Cuss at it

feral river
fresh flower
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If I commit an act of violence in the name of Buddha, does it make Buddhist view on morality wrong

feral river
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Wearing black mask is disrupting the social order

manic juniper
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Simply ask why parrots behave better than we do and they have no morals or religion

feral river
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And should be prohibited

thorny steeple
grave drum
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If morality is social, it only exists with consequences. You never answered that. You just listed bad things religious people did, which attacks people and not the idea of morality itself. You also keep confusing biology with ethics and hypocrisy with proof.

thorny steeple
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morality, biology and ethics

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BLAH BLAH

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If this guy types anything with chemistry and biology I will start to change my life

shell hemlock
fresh flower
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That makes even less sense, you're judging a religion by what an individual does

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We should be islamophobic by this logic

shell hemlock
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literally goes against islam

feral river
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Because it wasn’t a political stuff

thorny steeple
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Woah

thorny steeple
feral river
thorny steeple
wind zephyr
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Hm

thorny steeple
fresh flower
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That's what I said, if a priest goes apeshit and kills people, your course of action is to judge the religion he belonged to and not himself as a person, while also assuming that anyone belonging to that religion approved of it

wind zephyr
thorny steeple
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Father of humanity

wind zephyr
thorny steeple
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And died protecting them

wind zephyr
thorny steeple
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Yes

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Bib bob bib bob

wind zephyr
feral river
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It is not US-Greenland, it is American-Greenland

grave drum
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Most religions teach to learn from the good and avoid the bad. Idolizing someone often highlights ideals, lessons, or values, not a literal endorsement of every action they ever took.

feral river
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Greenland will be part of the United States in the future

wind zephyr
thorny steeple
wind zephyr
grave drum
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Atheists pretending morality can exist without consequences or guidance are basically hoping everyone will just ā€œbe goodā€ on instinct

thorny steeple
grave drum
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Humans are naturally narcissistic, so there needs to be a way to control that.

wind zephyr
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Which type of religious people commits crimes M

grave drum
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Just because some religious people commit crimes doesn’t mean the religion itself is flawed. Humans are flawed.

gloomy frost
thorny steeple
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I read bible and at a particular part god make a maid have that with a king of humanity of that time and later she ran while being pregnant and an angel came down to tell her that she should go back. RATHER THAN TAKING THE POOR WOMAN HE MADE HER RUN BACK.

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Such a gentleman

fresh flower
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I don't get it, do you believe that belonging to a religion makes you physically unable to sin?

gloomy frost
thorny steeple
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Labubu

fresh flower
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No I get what you mean, you're saying that if religion enforces good morals, how come religious people do bad things

wind zephyr
fresh flower
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Because it is

grave drum
gloomy frost
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It's not and who ever claims otherwise is lying.
No framework can be a complete framework of morality.
Not even society.

wind zephyr
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Ok this chat is complicated to understand

fresh flower
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Any notion of good or wrong that religious people and atheists now have are offshoots of religious doctrine

thorny steeple
gloomy frost
wind zephyr
wind zephyr
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Hm

thorny steeple
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Woah nysaz if you ever start a religion do add me

gloomy frost
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Wait, Before we continue, which framework do you work in? Internal or external mental model?
And I am pretty sure you didn't read my paragraph that started this conversation.

wind zephyr
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Hm

thorny steeple
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I'm only human after all don't put the blame on me

fresh flower
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"Humans are flawed" is literally a core concept in any religion

wind zephyr
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Hm

gloomy frost
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And no? Idols of religion has trade-offs not flaws, No social framework is perfect.

wind zephyr
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Hm....

thorny steeple
fresh flower
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Yes, have you read the Quran or the Bible?

wind zephyr
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Prophet Mohammad was not god i guess

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Neither jesus

grave drum
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Reforms in religion don’t mean it’s flawed. They happen because humans misinterpret or misuse teachings.

gloomy frost
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To say it's a flaw is denying that social frameworks don't have trade-offs.

fresh flower
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There's an insane amount of embarassing stories about Mohammed in the Quran, why would they include them if not to show that humans are flawed?

grave drum
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No?

thorny steeple
fresh flower
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Because their core concept of morality and right and wrong has not changed

gloomy frost
fresh flower
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Has there been a change to lets say the 10 commandments?

wind zephyr
fresh flower
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It still is

grave drum
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May god find the right path for you, you sound lost.

thorny steeple
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I mean we both can

fresh flower
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Do you not believe in the fact that Gulf countries enforce slave work

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Yeah I can tell

wind zephyr
thorny steeple
wind zephyr
grave drum
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Everyone did slavery

fresh flower
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They don't bomb each other, what are you talking about?

grave drum
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Slavery is better then killing them

wind zephyr
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Israel bomb gulf countries

fresh flower
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There hasn't been a war in the Gulf since Saddam (Rip) invaded Kuwait

thorny steeple
grave drum
manic juniper
grave drum
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Slavery was a part of war like it water is for our survival

thorny steeple
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So tuff

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Being treated as slave is worse than dyin,

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Especially if you were children and woman

fresh flower
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Lesbians existed before time itself

thorny steeple
manic juniper
tranquil vault
grave drum
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
manic juniper
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The full text was such:
" You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female slaves, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

ā€”ā€ŠExodus 20:17"

fresh flower
thorny steeple
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So good

thorny steeple
manic juniper
wind zephyr
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Hm

fresh flower
thorny steeple
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Sadly

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šŸ’€

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And then people say nah we don't follow that bible

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It's fake

wind zephyr
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Hm

slender coral
# grave drum Slavery is better then killing them

Bruh, what. Why the choice is between slavery and death? Why not just let people live?
Everyone did slavery back then because people didn't know better, not because they were forced to enslave each other.

fresh flower
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Which part specifically? Beating your wife or forcing her to be home is not exclusive to religion

thorny steeple
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Dog shit 😭

wind zephyr
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Hm

wind zephyr
fresh flower
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I asked you which part specifically

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It's no different than you saying "Slavery is in the bible", it's approved of in OT, not in NT

wind zephyr
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Hm

manic juniper
wind zephyr
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How long is bible btw?

slender coral
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He isn't religious btw, he just likes to glaze religion.

thorny steeple
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And let me give how they manipulate words

manic juniper
gloomy frost
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@fresh flower Olivander do you consider religion to be complete framework for morality?

fresh flower
# manic juniper "Slaves, obey your masters"...?

The other part isn't important?

"And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him"

thorny steeple
wind zephyr
thorny steeple
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every religious group change their own scripture so they don't get lynched for it

manic juniper
wind zephyr
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Who read those

thorny steeple
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every generation of religious believers trying not get beaten

manic juniper
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It is approved in NT because slavery was the norm in the first century

thorny steeple
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Then some say nah we don't believe no other bible

manic juniper
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It was more normal than YouTube is now

thorny steeple
manic juniper
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That passage was written in the second century if I'm not mistaken

wind zephyr
fresh flower
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Is this exlusive to religions? Your initial claim still doesn't make sense, absence of religion does not mean that you're morally incapable of beating your wife

manic juniper
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New religions

thorny steeple
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By Some strong people who want to make a change

shell hemlock
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Sunday is literally ragebait day

fresh flower
shell hemlock
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People just come out to ragebait cuz they’re unemployed

manic juniper
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We need a religion that keeps being updated in real time, isn't that what the Druze believe in

fresh flower
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By yalls logic you approve of islamophobia

thorny steeple
manic juniper
thorny steeple
fresh flower
wind zephyr
fresh flower
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You literally repeated it three times

gloomy frost
shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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Are you joking? You are so good at this😭

shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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Look at my sloppy english

shell hemlock
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Idiot

fresh flower
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It's not a question of literacy, it's you being unable to admit that judging a group of people by what a few do is wrong

thorny steeple
shell hemlock
thorny steeple
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What are your qualifications mate?

gloomy frost
# shell hemlock What did I even do I just came here

I don't need to explain.
Remember when you said I didn't commit a crime by interfering in an debate I had no knowledge of for example when I was talking about Christianity.
That's called being unemployment.

fresh flower
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This is why I repeatedly say that atheism is not that different from the extreme in religion that they claim to hate

thorny steeple
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Yeah now nobody will say their qualification

shell hemlock
wind zephyr
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Hm

manic juniper
shell hemlock
fresh flower
thorny steeple
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Chat I couldn't finish my meal

wind zephyr
shell hemlock
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Why’d you delete that

thorny steeple
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Sad

tranquil vault
shell hemlock
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I’m wearing hijab rn

shell hemlock
fresh flower
wind zephyr
gloomy frost
thorny steeple
shell hemlock
manic juniper
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Marxist-L*ninism

tranquil vault
wind zephyr
shell hemlock
wind zephyr
fresh flower
deep zephyr
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Oliver is a Somali pirate. Everyone knows that

mint parrot
thorny steeple
shell hemlock
wind zephyr
tranquil vault
gloomy frost
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First of all, even in society, Where you are told what's right and wrong, By law and punishment, your moral claim can't exist, in an external mental model.

deep zephyr
shell hemlock
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Let’s ask ChatGPT why people ragebait

fresh flower
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I meant this part:
"I'm judging religion by it's idols. If your religion idealizes certain figures, its natural to assume you approve of their way of thinking and their course of actions throughout their lives."

gloomy frost
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Unless you specially have internal autonomy. It's impossible.

shell hemlock
deep zephyr
shell hemlock
fresh flower
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Me roleplaying as Shia doesn't change that

deep zephyr
tranquil vault
fresh flower
shell hemlock
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@manic juniper would you rather eat soft boiled eggs, hard boiled eggs, poached eggs or fried eggs forever

tranquil vault
deep zephyr
tranquil vault
fresh flower
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I just got called Somali now Indian, I've never been called white šŸ’”šŸ’”šŸ’”šŸ’”šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

shell hemlock
shell hemlock
tranquil vault
manic juniper
mint parrot
deep zephyr
fresh flower
deep zephyr
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Were any of u able to contact anyone in Iran?

mint parrot
wind zephyr
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Hm

manic juniper
high raven
deep zephyr
deep zephyr
shell hemlock
shell hemlock
manic juniper
deep zephyr
wind zephyr
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Oh my god too long paragraphs

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Summaries it if u not ai

deep zephyr
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@shell hemlock chatgpt even uses personalized phrases and emojis. U never know

mint parrot
deep zephyr
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It's your fault thinking I believe ai is smart

deep zephyr
mint parrot
high raven
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Didn't Elon Mosque give them Starlink?

wind zephyr
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Hm

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Elon musk have mosquito

deep zephyr
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All the Starlink users are dead that's for sure

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Don't underestimate yourself. You can waste more

manic juniper
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Why not, you can read the book and develop it yourself

tranquil vault
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No bad blood?!?

manic juniper
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Isn't this what Protestantism is about

wind zephyr
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Uninstall this app

deep zephyr
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Scientology is the best religion. Look at Tom cruise. He's thriving even dating a baddie

fresh flower
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Yeah this is specific and normal, the "its natural to assume you approve of their way of thinking and their course of actions throughout their lives." if they kill people and you happen to be in the same religion is what I meant

manic juniper
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Yes but there is always going to be someone explaining the religion to you, either your own brain or somebody else's

fresh flower
thorny steeple
fresh flower
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I have the pass

thorny steeple
fresh flower
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My Somali friend gave it to me

manic juniper
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I read a scientific paper where one of the collaborators was named "Colossal piece of shit"

thorny steeple
fresh flower
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No I use it often tbh

mint parrot
fresh flower
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Not -er though

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He's Somali I will give him rice and banana and he'll update the pass

wind zephyr
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Hm

high raven
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Somalis don't really eat fufu

wind zephyr
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Hm

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Somali are pirates

shell hemlock
cerulean pivot
wind zephyr
high raven
deep zephyr
wind zephyr
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Chinese are pirates

high raven
wind zephyr
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Anyone left

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Usa

high raven
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They love rice and banana, also canned sardines

deep zephyr
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I thought all the Somali people were in Minnesota ans Sweden.

deep zephyr
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Anyone else uses mega?

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Why is it being so ass today. Delaying my movie 😔

shy ingot
deep zephyr
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I thought jollof rice was the trademark Nigerian food. Yes, you're only allowed one food per country

high raven
# deep zephyr Anyone else uses mega?

You should set up your own Plex server with a dedicated NAS and 4/6 WD red pro 16tb hdd's thinking it will save you money on subscriptions even though it will take you years to even out that cost

deep zephyr
deep zephyr
pseudo flume
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Speak english

deep zephyr
pseudo flume
deep zephyr
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Since when?

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I'm so heartbroken rn

pseudo flume
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I cannot be Mexican, I'm better

deep zephyr
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She was my salvation

pseudo flume
deep zephyr
summer sphinx
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who want sum dih

shy ingot
pseudo flume
summer sphinx
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one by one

deep zephyr
summer sphinx
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oh he's here

fresh flower
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I don't wanna see him here I'm sick of him

summer sphinx
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bet u fun at parties

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bozo

glossy ether
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??mute 1259801749141717108 nsfw

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LMFAO

summer sphinx
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boomer always has to ruin it

fresh flower
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ALHAMDLAH

bitter badgerBOT
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dynoSuccess dominic.dicoco was muted.

deep zephyr
pseudo flume
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šŸ‡®šŸ‡± PepeSpit

fresh flower
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YESSSSSS

fresh flower
pseudo flume
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Don't worry, all 3 of em are best friends

deep zephyr
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Oliver definitely has the ss of chika

wind zephyr
deep zephyr
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Because that was on command

glossy ether
fresh flower
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He's an emotionally abusive Gujarati scumbag that we sadly know

glossy ether
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LISTEN TO ME

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you guys know nothing

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its all your fault

pseudo flume
glossy ether
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why did missy leave

fresh flower
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GUYS JUST SHUSH

glossy ether
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why did toby leave

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LMFAO

glossy ether
thorny steeple
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Why wasn't I invited

wind zephyr
pseudo flume
deep zephyr
#

Who tf is Toby and Missy

wind zephyr
glossy ether
pseudo flume
wind zephyr
glossy ether
thorny steeple
high raven
thorny steeple
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Long time no see

pseudo flume
glossy ether
glossy ether
wind zephyr
pseudo flume
deep zephyr
wind zephyr
glossy ether
pseudo flume
thorny steeple
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Why is he asking for 3 dollars

wind zephyr
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Oh

glossy ether
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??unmute ??mute 1259801749141717108 nsfw

bitter badgerBOT
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dynoError I couldn't find that user

glossy ether
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fuck

high raven
glossy ether
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??unmute 1259801749141717108 nsfw

bitter badgerBOT
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dynoSuccess dominic.dicoco was unmuted.

glossy ether
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there we go

wind zephyr
#

Hm

glossy ether
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I MIGHT

thorny steeple
deep zephyr
pseudo flume
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Karaken is unleashed

pseudo flume
wind zephyr
#

Hm

deep zephyr
fresh flower
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We're twins fr

wind zephyr
#

Hm

pseudo flume
cerulean pivot
deep zephyr
pseudo flume
summer sphinx
summer sphinx
pseudo flume
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What's JSM

deep zephyr
high raven
summer sphinx
deep zephyr
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DM blocked and friend request off is the most chill discord experience

thorny steeple
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They get talked shit and get weird nsfw pic just because they are women

cerulean pivot
summer sphinx
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that's what happens to the good guys bro

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don't be one

cerulean pivot
summer sphinx
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I'm bearing the consequences

deep zephyr
high raven
cerulean pivot
summer sphinx
high raven
pseudo flume
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Wild shi, not it was a indian guy

summer sphinx
summer sphinx