🧠｜serious-chat

[grim folio]

The law in Saudi Arabia is to just do it in public it's not banned

There are some arab countries that are illegal even if you do gay stuff at your house

[cerulean pivot]

Tf How'd they know

Where are you from btw ?
I've heard enough misinformation from you for today

[fallow shard]

[grim folio]

Nah there are too many states places that are far from mekah actually they do parties and drink more than other arab countries

[fallow shard]

Google is free

But if you can't use it I'm not gonna argue w you

[fresh flower]

Kaikki 👉🏻👈🏻🥺

[grim folio]

Type far away from mekah

[fallow shard]

Bye I'll go play Gran Turismo

[fallow shard]

[cerulean pivot]

He's just tripping fr
Even if not by a religious sense
The whole tribal saudi /arabian naturemrefuse these phenomena

[fresh flower]

Wait a min

[grim folio]

But i like to argue with you:(

[fresh flower]

You're telling me that "AI" in Finnish is Tekoälytila?

[fallow shard]

DUDE USE GOOGLE

[magic olive]

How old is that

[fresh flower]

Bro it's 2 letters

[cerulean pivot]

.....

[fallow shard]

Tekoäly

[grim folio]

I don't trust Google

[fallow shard]

I didn't check

[grim folio]

Use different search engine

[fallow shard]

Sorry my race starts bye

[cerulean pivot]

Dude
Hello

I'm asking you

[fresh flower]

You don't have to

[burnt galleon]

We call them governorates.

I’m a Saudi.

And I’m telling you that gays are always punished as long as somebody reports them.

The death sentence is only for the act; not always enforced, but there’s always a pentalty.

As for transfolk, some ppl know that I’m trans, even amongst the gov, if the law were enforced, I’d be in a prison now alongside my sister and brother or at least not allowed in our parents’ house.

[grim folio]

Hello hru what are you asking about

[cerulean pivot]

Where are you from

[grim folio]

Tunisia hbu

[fresh flower]

Saudi Arabias legal system is based on Sharia, what does Sharia say about homosexual acts? @grim folio

[magic olive]

Saudi is welcoming people of all faiths, beliefs etc. But they put strict restrictions on lgbtq (no promotion, nor branding) Couples can’t even kiss in public, forget about the gays there. But there’s no such public execution or hatred.

[magic olive]

LoL , adios

[cerulean pivot]

I asked Because Your infos about Saudi Arabia are completely wrong
Now i get it

[burnt galleon]

Homosexuality = Kills them.
Transgenderness = Kicks them.

[cerulean pivot]

Which type are you
The kicked or killed

[grim folio]

I know they get punished but the places when Muslim visitors came there like mekah or the capital but in other places it's wild law is not applied

[burnt galleon]

Yr info is wrong.

I just managed to be queer a bit publicly since I don’t actually wanna centre my lfie abt it.

But anybody else can’t stop talking, so they’d die if they were in my shoes.

[burnt galleon]

Kicked.

But as I said, the law isn’t enforced, that’s why I still live with my parents.

[grim folio]

Saudi is not strict they act they are , north African countries more strict then them

[burnt galleon]

I could do it when I was a child.
-# Kissing men.

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah ik
Stay safe and take care

[burnt galleon]

Depends on the specific classification.

Polies, intersexes, genderqueers, enbies, aces, aros, demis, and xenogenders are supported here.

[cerulean pivot]

Dude
U live in an openly secular sociaty
How's that more strict than ksa

Make it make sense

[grim folio]

That's what I am saying is that it's illegal in public places some arab countries are more wild and strict even inside houses

[grim folio]

Am not talking about my country like moritania

[grim folio]

Iran too

Yemen

[cerulean pivot]

"North African countries " is a wide term yk

[grim folio]

Moritania is north African

[grim folio]

Egypt

[cerulean pivot]

They're the same
And iran is more acceptable to trans ones btw ( religiously speaking)

[burnt galleon]

Even privately, it’s illegal.
But like everywhere, you can stay safe if you don’t let it be yr core personality.

But again, the law isn’t always enforced.

Inner circles like us are more tolerated.

[turbid dome]

Neither Iran or Yemen are in North Africa btw

[grim folio]

Do you feel like they are trying to catch gays in all Saudi Arabia or just places that close to mekah

[burnt galleon]

Do you have another account called Wait What?

[grim folio]

Egypt

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh
We just share a similar pfp

[grim folio]

I don't like your pfp

[burnt galleon]

I feel like they wanted to do it everywhere.

But King Salman and his son try to normalise LGBTQ+.
But they’ll need a long time since the religion fails to normalise ascetism and polyamory (the two are LGBTQ+).

Mecca has fast food and cinemas (B4 the rest of Saudia) which are unʾĬslāmic.

The closer you are to Medina the more the religion is applied properly and more literally. But only progressive aspects like its encouragement of coexistence with sinners and learning academe, not the reactionary aspects such as polemics.

[grim folio]

Yeah do you wanna argue

[burnt galleon]

I’ve been tryna move to Medina from a long time to avoid persecution from being LGBTQ+ and many other reasons.

[grim folio]

Things are changing in Saudi Arabia specially with foreign visitors and workers

[burnt galleon]

Saudia.

[grim folio]

But it's kinda slow

[grim folio]

Are you gay

[burnt galleon]

I’m Sapphic, so a half-gay.

[grim folio]

Like a bi

Into male and women's

Are you dark skinned

Do you believe what most dark skinned say north Africans are not real Africans because they are white

I had an argument with a Somalian before he said that White people are not Africans

It's not all african genes are dark it depends on the location south Africa and the middle it's kinda a little bit hot there

But in north africa it is close to european weather because it's close to Mediterranean Sea

[burnt galleon]

We don’t have states.

Maghreb has federative states, but the only state here is Saudi Arabia.

My goveranate is Abha.

The religion is applied more literally in the goveranate of Medina, but the whole country is equally anti-LGBTQ+ since the reason of persuction isn’t religion, as it’s only against harm, not all of its expression.
Even aces, demis, and polies are treated as ill, not just transfolk and gays.

[raw gull]

i’ve been studying English, French, and Spanish on my own and I'm looking for someone to study with me, practice conversation, exchange ideas, tips, and advice,if anyone’s interested, hit me up in private

[fallow shard]

Maybe western propaganda has worked on me, good to know

[grim folio]

It's a place for serious stuff or arguing, we can practice sometimes dm me

[burnt galleon]

Yup.

But if you’re from a magrinalised group or a female and either a Muslim or an Arab, don’t tell others abt yr ethnicity & faith, so they treat you well.

Or don’t tell them the thing that cause yr persecution whether science, queerness, bodymodding, cosplaying, femaleness, or whatever.

In other aspects, it’s perfect: You’ll like our plants, animals, food, and landscapes.

[turbid dome]

Nah 😂

[burnt galleon]

I can help with Spanish.

[burnt galleon]

But Finland is in East Europe, no?

[turbid dome]

Saudi is genuinely repressive towards gay and trans people and operates on their own interpretation of Islamic law

[fallow shard]

WHAT NO

[burnt galleon]

If somebody wonders what my goal is:
I don’t aim to pass perfectly for a woman altho’ it’s possible at any age.

I just wanna keep the freedom I got in this regard since it was hard.

[fallow shard]

It for sure happens that people get killed easily bcs their sexuality in such countries but I wanna know the real statistics but sadly it's impossible to know

[turbid dome]

Yeah, the government of Saudi Arabia is trying to improve their international image and has got a lot of attention for lack of women’s rights and gay rights, I doubt the honesty of any figures from their gov tbh

[burnt galleon]

Like “isn’t it?”, but in the speech of Obeikei Islanders and the Japanese in London and the New World.

[fallow shard]

They simply can't improve their look without improving those

[fresh flower]

Research papers are not allowed here

You will be muted for hateful speech

[turbid dome]

What they’ve done is seemingly pass a few reforms and everyone points at the reforms and ignores that there’s still major issues

[drowsy anvil]

what are we talking about ?

[burnt galleon]

There’s no longer misogyny.

But there’s gynophobia and I’m still studying why.

[fresh flower]

Countries not safe for gays

[drowsy anvil]

oh thx

so what do you think ?

[woven quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193574320765669406/1457516269887819968/qXprNZH.gif

[drowsy anvil]

IMO, it depends of the coutinent

[mystic bay]

What's the difference?

[fallow shard]

If I'll get muted I'll start revolution like France

[burnt galleon]

They literally fear women instead of limiting their rights.

[mystic bay]

oh hecc

[drowsy anvil]

yeah 1789 my country

[burnt galleon]

If you don’t want mutes, send the research on mt DM.

I need to understand sociology better.

[fresh flower]

Someone hateful might say that safety for gays and prevalence of Islam is correlated

[drowsy anvil]

i dont think so

[fresh flower]

You just have to avoid backing your claims with research

[drowsy anvil]

this is more the entire society than islam

[fallow shard]

It's filled w slaves and rich people so it has worked

[drowsy anvil]

this too accurate

and i mean isolate compareted with the entire society

[turbid dome]

i mean they do both

[burnt galleon]

Yup, just those, not all of the LGBTQ+.

Only Achillean, Sapphic, and trans (except for transneuter).

But all others I saw them open like my late uncle who is an ace or a demi.

[fresh flower]

Wtf

What is transneuter

Like neutered?

[fallow shard]

Bro even I'm not sure

[fresh flower]

My dog was transneutered

[fallow shard]

😭

[burnt galleon]

Who identifies as gender neutral.

[fresh flower]

I thought that was just "gender neutral" though

When did it become "trans"neuter

[burnt galleon]

It is a subtype of it.

[burnt galleon]

It’s not the same sense.

[fresh flower]

Wait do you mean gender neutral trans people?

[burnt galleon]

Exactly!

[fresh flower]

Wait isn't that an oxymoron 💀

Am I overthinking it

If you're trans you feel the opposite gender, how can you simultaneously be gender neutral

[burnt galleon]

I’m thinking abt the same thought.

[drowsy anvil]

because you dont feel the other gender: you are the opposite gender

thats what they think i guess

[mystic bay]

bold of you to assume there is thinking involved

[fresh flower]

Exactly but how then can you be gender neutral idk

[burnt galleon]

Can you DM me abt philosophy?

I need to improve my logic a bit.

[mystic bay]

you may, but I am also busy doing nothing atm

[drowsy anvil]

what is bold in this case pls ?

[mystic bay]

What

[drowsy anvil]

in your sentence

what does it mean

[mystic bay]

I'm too tired to teach English right now

[grim folio]

Cool

[drowsy anvil]

ohh

[drowsy anvil]

so sleep

[grim folio]

Sleeping not helping

She needs to rest mentally

[mystic bay]

Yes

[burnt galleon]

As long as you don’t identify as the opposite gender, you can transition into a neutral appearance.

Many ppl do it.

[drowsy anvil]

dont you think that discord is bad to rest mentally

[grim folio]

Try taking walks outside close to nice places that could help you to release the stress

[drowsy anvil]

😭

[mystic bay]

it's freezing outside

it was hailing earlier

little pebbles of misery

[drowsy anvil]

nature is the solution against stress you are right

[grim folio]

Not like now lol

[mystic bay]

I made pasta but it was crunchy

it's not a good day

[grim folio]

Yeah

[grim folio]

Good food is a good thing too

[burnt galleon]

Neuter can be an adj that means gender neutral or a euphemistic verb of “to castrate”.

[last geyser]

HI GUYS

[mystic bay]

I am

[grim folio]

Hello Turkish homelander

[last geyser]

Hello

[grim folio]

Am enigma

The cool dude

[last geyser]

Nice too meet you

[burnt galleon]

Believe or not, the most common reason of oppression in my country isn’t being LGBTQ+ nor a non-Muslim; I have many occassions when I’m openly both. I’m well-respected.

But to be a fan of any weak FC.

[grim folio]

Nice to meet you too

[grim folio]

Why don't you leave

[burnt galleon]

In my philosophy, everything is based on affectivity, not objective reality.

[burnt galleon]

I’ve been trying to do it.

To learn more abt the World, so to get a honourable job.

Nope. Nassar FC is strong.

Try Damak.

[grim folio]

At least free visa to many countries

Just develop yourself and build yourself then leave

[burnt galleon]

Indeed!

[burnt galleon]

That’s why I’m still here since I can only cure my body here.

[summer relic]

football is kinda boring

[burnt galleon]

Quantity, uprightness, colours, etc. are all subjective experiences.

[summer relic]

quantity isn’t subjective

quantity is objective

if i have three apples, that’s a subjective fact

technically speaking colours aren’t subjective, only how we perceive them

[odd slate]

Hi
My English is B1 and this year I will graduate from B2 but my vocabulary is too small so I would like to help me more vocabulary and I would like to speak better because this is very important to me. Can you help someone with this?

[fresh flower]

Hockey is better

It has fights

[burnt galleon]

For me, I don’t care if I’m a real x or not, as my invaulable experience, even if delusion or social construct, is what makes me real.

[woven quail]

[burnt flame]

Any ideas where could I find friends online other than discord servers filled with roblox playing gen alpha toddlers? I'm 21 man i got no friends

[summer relic]

go outside instead

Discord is mainly for teenagers

[turbid dome]

Blame it on the @mint parrot

[true lark]

Hello

[true lark]

Um no?

[true lark]

Try mutual interests, maybe join the discord server of some streamers you like!

[mint parrot]

Ded

[burnt flame]

I have social anxiety

[summer relic]

that's a you problem

[burnt galleon]

I need to write some topics in a diary or smth for a while since the more I talk or think the more I accept myself and feel more normal, as the negative ideas come only from online folk and health experts offline, not myself.

But if I ask myself solely: I actually don’t care whose life is better unlike what a psych may try to convince me to. I’m just being myself happily.

[burnt galleon]

I’m 29.

[burnt flame]

Not really

[burnt flame]

But you have a life unlike me

[summer relic]

i know i was mean earlier or whatever but if you did try to connect with people offline it might help

[burnt galleon]

I know my bio well! 😁

[burnt galleon]

Well, I’ve been just trying to find a reliable way to self-learn, so as to overcome classism and speciesism.

[grim folio]

I don't like your life

[burnt flame]

Jealous

[grim folio]

Yes am:(

[thorny kernel]

I will spunk ur butt

[grim folio]

No thanks

[thorny kernel]

this funny

[fallow shard]

What the fuck

Do it to @turbid dome

Yes I'll throw you under the bus

[turbid dome]

this is the real wtf, why do you want to see this happen to me

[fallow shard]

I don't wanna see it, I just want it to happen to u

[turbid dome]

wtf

[fallow shard]

You're welcome, I'm thoughtful friend

[turbid dome]

WHY

[fallow shard]

U couldn't think what I should do

[turbid dome]

With you it's quite easy to predict actually

[fallow shard]

What is that supposed to mean

[turbid dome]

❌ be normal ✅ say sus stuff

[fallow shard]

I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, I JUST THREW U UNDER THE BUS

[turbid dome]

It was sus

[fallow shard]

[grim folio]

Dog

[main zephyr]

I thought it was a seal

I don't know why I saw thst

[radiant condor]

大丈夫 is japanese dude

[fresh flower]

Tunapad

[gloomy frost]

[urban swift]

Kudasai

Yamate?

[lofty condor]

We learned 2 words

I think it's fair

[olive herald]

Those words mean stop or smth like that

Used on “sexual” books normally

[turbid dome]

How do you know

[gloomy frost]

Some people prefer to live their lives as permanent plaintiffs.
As long as the world is on trial, they never have to prove themselves.

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-coffin-rise-who-pinged-me-coffin-rise-gif-19406995

[slender coral]

Saudi is welcoming people of all faiths, beliefs etc.
Idk how could you say that about a country that suppresses expression of other faiths and minority groups so violently.

Such fluffy statements are so contradictory and meaningless.

In certain cases executions are carried out in public and the dead bodies and severed heads are put on display afterwards.
https://www.amnestyusa.org/reports/amnesty-international-report-rampant-executions-in-saudi-arabia-fuelled-by-justice-system-riddled-with-holes

[magic olive]

2015

We’re living in 2026

[slender coral]

When did they stop?

[magic olive]

I live there

Idk what hatred your talking about lmfao

They don’t encourage it, that’s true. But they not gonna hurt you lmfao

Just do what you gotta do indoors

[slender coral]

Are you a Muslim?

[magic olive]

I’m a Christian

[slender coral]

You are actually a Saudi?

[olive herald]

My bsf used to read Yaoi

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭

[frozen cape]

what's that

[turbid dome]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/01/executions-saudi-arabia-highest-number-ever-2025

[slender coral]

Old things, but reflect the hatred.

Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for work or tourism, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Saudi Arabia states that they are permitted to privately practice their religion, but this is not codified and raids on private practice by the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice do occur, though these have decreased since their powers were curtailed in 2016.[14] Bringing a Bible and other types of religious texts into the country is allowed as long as it is for personal use. Although textbooks in Saudi Arabia have moderated their extremist content since 2001, they still contain some content classified as "egregious" such as characterizing Christians and other non-Muslims as liars and are considered to promote religious hatred and intolerance towards non-Muslims,[2] while the NGO Human Rights Watch has also reported rising hate speech against Christians by Saudi leaders.[16] The Saudi Arabian Mutaween (Arabic: مطوعين), or Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (i.e., the religious police) prohibits the public practice of any religion other than Islam.[17] Conversion of a Muslim to another religion is considered apostasy,[17] a crime punishable by death if the accused does not recant. There have been no confirmed reports of executions for either crime in modern times.[17] The government permits non-Muslim clergy to enter the country for the purpose of conducting religious services.[17] In spite of this, a 2015 study estimates that there are some 60,000 Christians with a Muslim background living in the country, though that does not mean that all of those are citizens of the country.[18]

Currently there are no official churches in Saudi Arabia.
[that's as of 2022]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia#Persecution

[turbid dome]

Most of these are drug related but still executions are growing more common, not less

[slender coral]

Normally, no one would accept this. Only being allowed to be themselves indoors. If Muslims face this, they would call it persecution. And if you accept it upon yourself, you have no dignity tbh.

[tiny apex]

gay comics I think

[turbid dome]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/nov/12/foreign-prisoners-killed-saudi-arabian-jail-tabuk-prison-egyptians-executed-non-violent-drug-crimes-mohammed-bin-salman

actually, I said most of these are drug charges but they didn’t even get a fair trial and were tortured into giving confessions, so they may not even be who the gov says they are

[slender coral]

The Khaleej region is just very fucked up. And many people there don't realize it because of how the press isn't free.

[sturdy mango]

Hi

[slender coral]

They lack transparency just like any other authoritarian Arab country.

[slender coral]

Hello

[swift crest]

Hellooo

[sturdy mango]

What yall talking about

[swift crest]

You have an exam today right

[sturdy mango]

Class is so boring

[sturdy mango]

Hai

[magic olive]

This is on drugs tho, i was talking about the LGBTQIA

[swift crest]

Wsup

[magic olive]

Yup

[sturdy mango]

In boring ahh class wby

[frozen cape]

i like how they tolerate Ronaldo's housing situation with his partner

[swift crest]

AHHHH
I've boring stuff to memorize

[turbid dome]

Have to keep the rich people happy for international image

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5KdeoHFkDn0?si=RX5eoE5kCWCPPDew

It’s the Venezuela’s problem triggered the US intervention

And American rule will make Venezuela better

🇺🇸 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

[swift crest]

Do you have any vested interest in this

[frozen cape]

It'd make sense if he's getting paid to parrot all of that

otherwise it'd just be sad

hilairious but sad

[swift crest]

Real

[turbid dome]

Probably just a few chevron and Exxon stocks

[swift crest]

Damn

[turbid dome]

Actually @slender coral what do you think of traditional secularism vs French laicite

[swift crest]

I knew geopolitics could affect cashflows but never understood how

[feral river]

American military industrial complex

I invested Israeli MIC, American MIC

People all should invest that and receive payments from the war

We earn from the war, we fuel the war, and we win the war

Everybody should join and fuel the war

It’s the War to mobilize the whole nation to be united

[feral river]

NATIONAL INTEREST ABOVE ALL

ABOVE HUMAN RIGHTS, ABOVE THE LAW, ABOVE PERSONAL GAINS, ABOVE EVERYTHING

That's why Donald J. Trump is capable to be the President and he lead the whole nation to achieve the ultimate victory

everyone in the state should unconditionally follow the command of the President

we should build his statue everywhere

[drowsy anvil]

No because it’s is supposed to be a republic

[feral river]

and everybody should have his portrait at their home or else it's violating the law and will be prosecuted

[drowsy anvil]

That’s what a dictature is

[feral river]

Republicans themselves is Republic

now we are going to make it more republican than it was

[drowsy anvil]

What do you mean “more republican”

[feral river]

Make the Republican Party the only legitimate party of the United States of America

make America an one party state

one party dominate the all

just like Soviet Union, China, Nazi Germany, North Korea etc.

[drowsy anvil]

So it’s a single party

A totalitarian regime

Do you even know how bad it is ?

[feral river]

That’s the ultimate form of the political structure that was capable to launch and sustain long-term wars and mobilize the most people to the battle ground and win the war

[high rapids]

can someone mute this guy

[feral river]

With that power United States is capable to have 100 more state we won’t have the 51st state problem anymore

Until the United States of America becomes the United States of World

[high rapids]

Keep dreaming

[feral river]

Can’t wait to see a star spangled banner with 500+ stars

🇺🇸

[high rapids]

What kind of drugs are you taking to imagine something like that?

[feral river]

I don’t mind that we should dominate the earth instead make the US take it

[high rapids]

You didn´t answer my question

[feral river]

Unite all humanity under one flag, one ideology, one party and one leader

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty-oO_bdhyY

[covert quiver]

??mute 801809411701080137 6h Bro chill. Come back after you have finished your rant internally. Thanks.

[bitter badger]

minecraft_652 was muted.

[covert quiver]

Stg this guy needs help

[slender coral]

Yeah, I had it. Was very easy I finished it in 30 minutes.

[swift crest]

Nicee

[slender coral]

I often find myself opposing French laicite, though I can't deny I see the logic behind it sometimes. Maybe I'd read more about it and their arguments for it, and maybe that would change my views, but currently I think the state should be neutral on religion rather than forcing secularism socially.

[slender coral]

What do you think?

[lofty bough]

[clear cradle]

would u say the same when it's time for the USA to get dominated by the chineese

[grim folio]

I wanna argue

[slender coral]

About what?

[lofty hound]

about alan turing who solve the enigma

[grim folio]

About something

[slender coral]

A part of the story that I think deserves to be talked about more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Homosexuality_and_indecency_conviction

[lofty hound]

yeah 🥂

[thorny steeple]

Hello guys

[slender coral]

Hello

[lofty hound]

without the imitation game by alan turing, there is no apple

[cyan rampart]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

Hm 😳 again hello

[cyan rampart]

Hello XD

[torn onyx]

Any wanna vc

[mint parrot]

Damn

[fresh flower]

Ending a 700 year long dynasty by being gay is crazy

[gloomy frost]

Eww, Nothing is above my own life for me.

[mint parrot]

They should have had another son

[fresh flower]

You wouldn't save your future child if it meant losing your own life?

[slender coral]

@mystic bay what do you think about euthyphro dilemma?

[mystic bay]

I actually think that the euthyphro dilemma is quite a powerful objection to divine command theory. It's something I've been thinking about quite a lot recently. One of my current projects is to try and show how rule-based systems of ethics turn out to be trivial, and I think the euthyphro dilemma is a good example of that.

[slender coral]

I may have asked you about this in the past, and if that's the case then honestly I forgot. But I'll try to learn this time, where can I learn philosophy from?

[mystic bay]

It's a hard question, since there are many, many "intro to philosophy" textbooks, and I can't really recommend one because I have not read any of them. When you study philosophy, you typically study some particular branch of it, like metaphysics, ethics, political philosophy, philosophy of mind, etc. It is much easier for me to recommend something in these specific areas. Do you already know which parts of philosophy interest you specifically?

If not, then you could just choose a general philosophy introduction from Amazon and it will probably be fine. But it won't go deeply into any single thing. Which in my opinion sort of defeats the purpose.

[slender coral]

I think an intro would at least help me determine what branch to study, wouldn't it?

[mystic bay]

Sure, if that's the position you're in. Are you looking for something at the undergraduate level? If so, you might look at the Norton introduction to philosophy, which is fairly comprehensive and has excerpts of real philosophers' writings as well. I might have the pdf on my laptop at home so if that sounds good then I can hopefully send it to you (as long as it's small enough for discord).

[misty shard]

What ya guys think of the unexpected attack in Venezuela ?

[gloomy frost]

I'd try to save my child without choosing my own death as a requirement. My life doesn’t become expendable.

[plush surge]

Hi guys, whats the topic (:

[misty shard]

Imagine all the Venezuelan people all waking up at 2am hearing those big loud explosions and those air raid sirens

100 percent moving out of there quick in case of escalation

[plush surge]

Can you elaborate?

[fallow tide]

want to find a friend (male or female)
to practice English with. If you’re interested, message me privately

[slender coral]

Dm me with it

Or actually, send it here.

[mystic bay]

I'll do it when I get home from work

Unless I forgot

[fresh flower]

Brits work today?

I thought Epiphany would be a public holiday for yall too

[mystic bay]

Nope

[cyan rampart]

Hello!

[mystic bay]

I only got Christmas day, boxing day and new year's day off

And even boxing day was a negotiation

[manic juniper]

I'm fucking stupid I forgot about this holiday

I got ready to work and all only to find out everyone was joking about witches because of this holiday

[swift crest]

[swift crest]

What creature is this

[fresh flower]

What's wrong with your dog

[lunar crown]

A tapir

[swift crest]

Tapir sounds more like a musical instrument

[coral belfry]

it looks like a combination between an anteater and an elephant

[high rapids]

Hello

How are you guys?

[coral belfry]

i am fine
what about you?

[honest steeple]

tbh not good

[high rapids]

I´m glad too hear that, I´m doing well thanks. How is your day going?

[high rapids]

Why not

[honest steeple]

its becouse of sickness, didnt find a good Doctor Yet

[coral belfry]

one word
cold (:

[gloomy frost]

What in the oblivion is that?

[honest steeple]

Its like more psychologic then physical issue as i bleive

[high rapids]

I hope you feel better soon and that you find a good doctor

[high rapids]

I have snow outside in my garden

[coral belfry]

well its not as cold as the "north"
but our houses are not designed for the cold we dont have heaters nor insulation ,and our houses are painted with white to reflect the sun

[manic juniper]

Malayan tapir

[honest steeple]

thanks brother

[coral belfry]

Also our floor is made out of concrete...

[pseudo flume]

@uncut tiger stop spamming old couple shagging in jungle reels on my insta DMs, please

[versed bane]

Chat I'm not serious, Make me serious.

[gloomy frost]

Deez nuts

[misty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/testing-new-deez-nuts-ha-teeth-gif-15758045

[cobalt patrol]

muslims dont respect western values

[slim blade]

Seems nobody ever moves here lmao

[swift crest]

move

[mint hatch]

Diaz is timed out

[cobalt patrol]

what???

[swift crest]

Idk 😭
Don't ask

[coral belfry]

hmm
how do we move

[swift crest]

WELL

[slender coral]

Not all of them, but yeah I a lot don't.

[swift crest]

SCREAM AND JUMP AND RUN LIKE A MANIAC

YOU'LL KNOW

[coral belfry]

MEOW MEOW???

[slender coral]

Why?

[versed bane]

I love cats, Hey! Gimme that cat or you're dead

I'm gonna collect all the cats around the worlds

[coral belfry]

NO YOU ARE NOT GETTING MY CAT

[versed bane]

are there any cats in space?

[swift crest]

Eat them

[versed bane]

nah, I'm not Chinese

[slender coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Félicette

[versed bane]

I'm poor, Plwease, Give me some cats

[coral belfry]

I HAVE THIS ONE CAT AND I AM NOT GIVING IT TO ANYONE

[versed bane]

How'd you search it up in a second and how are you always online?
Are you broke like me?

[versed bane]

u sure?

[coral belfry]

umm
yes?

[versed bane]

I'm good at math btw

[slender coral]

I'm not always online. I'm only online when you are, we are destined to be together 💋

[versed bane]

so I'm gonna track your cat

[coral belfry]

me too

[versed bane]

lol

[versed bane]

I have no cats

so your math is in vain

[swift crest]

Cuz you eat them

Ik

[coral belfry]

Dont even dare to do that

[thin lintel]

MY PREBOARDS R OVER GNGGGGGGGGGG

[swift crest]

Wahhh 💯🔥🔥

[versed bane]

how?

[thin lintel]

NOW JEE AND BOARDS💔

[versed bane]

irshad irshad

[swift crest]

HECK YEAAAHHHHHHH

[versed bane]

Sorry, I'm bad at math... I only got 66 out of 75

[thin lintel]

😋 😋

[coral belfry]

oh and i got 37 out of 40

[swift crest]

IS IT YOU IN YOUR PFP???????

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHE LOOKS SO CUTEEEEEE

[thin lintel]

YESSSSSSS FROM LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS IN AAKASH💔

[swift crest]

GORGEOUS AF

[thin lintel]

SHE IS NOT GNG💔

[versed bane]

🤧 Better luck, Next time buddy

[coral belfry]

you too

[thin lintel]

😭 💗

[swift crest]

Wahtttttttttttt

[thin lintel]

😭

[swift crest]

SHE LOOKS LIKE A MALYALI ACTRESS

[versed bane]

yo habibi you're an arab?

[coral belfry]

نعم

[thin lintel]

ZAMNNNN NO GNG😭 💗 BTW DO U LISTEN TO ARPIT BALA????

I M LOVING HIS SONGS

[swift crest]

I'll if you care enough to recommend me his songs

[versed bane]

let's shift to #🫂｜beginner-chat coz you're clearly not serious. and not in the situation to pronounce my name

[swift crest]

lol

[coral belfry]

not the beginner chat!

[versed bane]

let's #🧊｜chill-chat , Chillout

[thin lintel]

LISTEN TO RAKHLO TUM CHUPAAKE, PYAARI AMANNAT AND ALSO CHAMPAKALI

[swift crest]

Done

[thin lintel]

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS😋

[swift crest]

[versed bane]

This channel is for political and religious discussion only. I believe that we should move on to another chat. Should we?

[thin lintel]

GNG WE R DONE, TOO LATE

[swift crest]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

[grim folio]

Okay

[versed bane]

💀

[prime grail]

“serious chat”

[coral belfry]

why so serious

[versed bane]

yeah, this message seems serious but it's slightly not serious so I'm safe from serious meaning we're safe. Aren't we?

[coral belfry]

wait who is serious

[versed bane]

none

[coral belfry]

and none is serious?

is that the secret identity of serious

[versed bane]

yes, habib

My name is Sagheer, You know it's an Arabic word which means small, Sagheer, Kabeer

Guessed? So I'm Sagheer, means I'm small, Young. Aren't I?

[coral belfry]

yep and kabeer means Big

[versed bane]

no, I've not revealed it yet

[versed bane]

Yeah

[slender coral]

Reminds me of the Pakistani diplomat Akbar Zib who got rejected by Saudi Arabia.

I haven't checked if the story is real.

[versed bane]

ohh

[slender coral]

Bruh these non-Arabs having Arabic names is strange. Like, you don't have your own identity? And you are choosing the strangest names possible.

[versed bane]

this channel is made for me, I'll be active here talking about politics. I fear religious debates cuz I lack information about it to debate

[versed bane]

my father did, i was not born to choose my name yet

[slender coral]

I blame the parents not the sons.

[versed bane]

[coral belfry]

this is not even a real problem

[slender coral]

Yeah I just don't like it.

[coral belfry]

okey well that is your opinion

[feral river]

you can have a Jewish name without being Jewish

[versed bane]

guess we're on the same track

[versed bane]

it doesn't make it Jewish

does it minecrafter?

[slender coral]

How?

[versed bane]

I'm not an Arab but I got Arabic Name, What does that mean?

[feral river]

every person is deserved to have this divine right to identify themselves as a Jew

[sharp creek]

hahaha they are religious people, they are a different species from other humans

[feral river]

that should be part of the human rights

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-cat-meow-meowmeow-confused-gif-8057852975940592422

[sharp creek]

come on, communicating with them will never work

[versed bane]

same

[sharp creek]

hahahahaha

[versed bane]

couldn't process that

[versed bane]

Did I tell you to laugh? Now Unlaugh

[slender coral]

My brain committed suicide.

I'm out.

[versed bane]

lmfao, Yoo Habib

[lavish creek]

There was an Iranian trump supporter

How is he?

[lavish creek]

Half of the world has biblical (Semitic) names lol

Where are all old Celtic and Germanic names?

[gloomy frost]

Incorrect.

[swift crest]

lalalalalalalalalalal

[dry wigeon]

> muslim families
> can't understand the arabic they're reading
average day as a non arab muslim

[covert quiver]

Proof?

[covert quiver]

There are others of said dynasty, it should say “a royal prince”, also they have 0 legal authority or legitimacy so mehhhh

[shy summit]

[shy summit]

Don’t worry they do too

[silent wraith]

@short burrow weren't you the one blaming atheists for crying about the sufferings in this world? And doing the same now. Calling me a cringe girl in my absence trying to gain a few applause from your peeps. They can't even let a conversation reach a conclusion and lose their cool in between. And no, i never denied female infanticides in the ancient unstructured civilizations. It is a big part of the discussion but I assume they don't want me to write there at all.

[rotund fractal]

Still don't know how Venezuela is a poor country

[fresh flower]

Poverty is a choice in Scandinavian countries

[silent wraith]

Where did I deny lol? I just pointed out that Khadija had a really good status that is One of The many indications that although female infanticides was a common issue throughout the world, it was certainly not that widespread in the Arab as you're making it sound like

And it's weird hearing about women's rights from you when you were hating me yesterday for questioning about Aisha's Age

Na i can't even text there, the third time they did it in 24, hours

Also, you totally ignore my other text that has tons of children ,female and religious atrocities written

[fresh flower]

You're both doing feminism a great favour by being haters

That's usually a mans job

I salute you

[high rapids]

A flower for all of you

[silent wraith]

Woah woahh stop. You haven't even had a discussion with me for an hour and you're all drowning into emotions without any reason. Had I not cared about women's rights and safety, i would've never decided to stop believing in god tho

It's ironic and funny cuz suffering and the patriarchal mindset of religions is what motivated me to question their credibility in the first place

[silent wraith]

We don't hate, we settle things down with arguments

[last mantle]

Netflix doesn’t have much content.

[prisma cipher]

Netflix have a lot stupid content

[clear osprey]

There is no god actually. Everything is false beliefs.

[verbal torrent]

Im god

[opal surge]

Which past tense is "did" in? For example when saying "I didn't do the dishes" which tense am I using?

[verbal torrent]

Simple past tense

[umbral narwhal]

https://youtu.be/WJINNDmfZVA

[opal surge]

ty

[turbid dome]

Yeah I would say I started out opposing laicite but the more I read about it the more it seemed like it was only slightly overcorrective.

I would definitely say I’m closer to laicite then like US or English secularism. I think there have been excesses (burqa and face covering ban). But I do generally agree with banning religion from politics and government and government owned spaces.

I think it serves a purpose, it makes it harder (but still possible) for churches to interfere in politics. It also prevents any of the exploitation of religion for politics (Trump holding the Bible could never happen in France, neither could every president being sworn in on one).

Even in the legislature, people being laughed at for invoking religion as a justification for a law is a great thing that doesn’t really work as well for other models of secularism.

I also think sometimes traditional secularism goes so far as to elevate religion and give special protections, and sometimes just protect anything that goes on at religious institutions regardless of what it is. (Religious institutions have no transparency and don’t need to file a 990 form here, whereas a secular community center 501(c)(3) does.) Even in NYC, Mamdani is upholding an executive order banning protesting outside places of worship, ignoring that there’s West Bank land sales sparking the protests.

[opal surge]

Ok now

What's the difference between "I didn't wear them before" and "I haven't worn them before"

The second sentence takes effect untill now, but the first refers only to the past right?

[fresh flower]

Isn't this just a lukewarm version of fascism

[turbid dome]

How

[fresh flower]

Wanting the state to impose ideological conformity and target specific groups under “neutral” laws

[turbid dome]

When did I say that

[dry wigeon]

"banning religion from politics and government and government owned spaces" bro

france goes a touch further than that

[fresh flower]

You didn’t, but that ideology sounds like it would disproportionately target certain groups when neutrality is enforced through bans

Very dangerous

[shy summit]

You can swear in on anything

You can swear in on a copy of music. You can swear in on a jar of pickles

[turbid dome]

Yeah I literally said there’s excesses

[shy summit]

It’s not s legal requirement

[fresh flower]

What if they paid taxes and leased the government space

[turbid dome]

But it has been the Bible every time, bringing religion into politics

[dry wigeon]

might be fine then, the idea should be that they dont directly influence how law is made, ig

[turbid dome]

How

[fresh flower]

Secularism is great, you shouldn't have ideologies or religions interfering with politics, including atheism

[shy summit]

Cause they were usually christian

[mystic bay]

@slender coral

[cerulean pivot]

Promotion of piracy

[thorny steeple]

It has virus

[dry wigeon]

his statement is not exactly wrong, even if you dont go as far as france, what about minority religion rights etc. it could create problems to entirely seperate religion from politics

[turbid dome]

Yeah, it makes the Bible a political object by using it in that way

[thorny steeple]

My phone says

[cerulean pivot]

I downloaded it thanks

[dry wigeon]

MrSheen is online again, its over

[fresh flower]

By enforcing bans on visible religious expression, like hijab or niqab in France, affecting some groups more than others and limiting personal freedom, and more. It sounds like an ideology that would quickly get out of hand

Hence why I said lukewarm fascism

[feral river]

your moral piece of crap participate nothing in political moves and law enforcement

law was enforced under the guns

[dry wigeon]

he did say this

[fresh flower]

Not sure why you're agreeing with this when its specifically enforcing one version of "morals"

[shy summit]

@feral river stop spamming bold caps

[feral river]

the pope, how many troops he have - Joseph Stalin

find a pope with troops

[fresh flower]

Very dangeous hope Debil isn't into this fascist ideology 🥺💔

[feral river]

they fear piece of shit that was nothing

[turbid dome]

Could you elaborate

[feral river]

only used for scam who believes it

[dry wigeon]

Don't even need his user ID to know its Sheen @turbid dome 💀

[feral river]

who has the most power who was the target of fearing

I hold the power of dictator other lives ofc they fear me

[fresh flower]

Wait would religious minorities or ethnicities be represented in politics or does that ideology go against it

[feral river]

that's the source of power, the force

the GUN, NOT THE GOD

[turbid dome]

To be clear, I specifically said “closer to” laicite, meaning I don’t fully agree with it, and also specifically used the example of the burqa ban as an excess.

[feral river]

your god can never stop a 7.62mm bullet

[dry wigeon]

there should be a certain extent to which representation/talking about religion in government sessions should be allowed

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[shy summit]

Mine FFS

[dry wigeon]

some of these movements are just "no religion at all" and thats it, which would cause issues

[mystic bay]

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

[feral river]

yeah can he ?

[turbid dome]

So if religion is part of politics, i feel like it shouldn’t be any more protected than being a liberal or conservative.

[feral river]

you must praying so damn well to stop one

[cerulean pivot]

He's just special 😣😞

[fresh flower]

I'm for that ideology if it also means suppressing atheism

[feral river]

idk how much it would count but good for you to think that could work

[turbid dome]

Could you give an example

[dry wigeon]

On Yogi

[feral river]

there's one rule in possibilities, for the time is closed to infinite, everything will happen 100%

[dry wigeon]

I'm talking about online movements/talks, not from real enforcement

[feral river]

pray damn hard to try if that works

[turbid dome]

For example, in the US churches do not have to be financially transparent, and people often attach religion to their identity even more strongly than political ideology

[fresh flower]

Wait you're religious what's your take on this

[turbid dome]

Oh, I don’t disagree with that.

[fresh flower]

Is it just me or does that Laicite also sound like fascism to you

[mystic bay]

My take on what

[feral river]

we are at one side to deal with religion don't we

[dry wigeon]

Is 1415831159035789454 really trying to sell this right now

[cerulean pivot]

What's the difference between this and secularism in general

[feral river]

it's just the difference of ways to deal with it

[shy summit]

What in the fuck are you talking about

[turbid dome]

Right well that in itself is a protection, it requires a religion to be true for the punishment to apply, which is why we have a legal system in the first place

[fresh flower]

If I understand it right secularism is neutral toward religion, the Lacaite thing actively excludes religion in public

Idk I could be wrong tho

[turbid dome]

It was created by humans in a material world

[glossy ether]

wagwan

[verbal torrent]

Omg why is this boy getting muted every time i look at the chat

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-picking-nose-gintoki-sakata-gintama-anime-gif-17488496

[fresh flower]

Wagwan alakum

[glossy ether]

hi bossman

[cerulean pivot]

Wassup white boy

[thorny steeple]

Don't you guys have a different topic

[glossy ether]

wassup indian boy

[fresh flower]

We're discussing atheist fascism

[thorny steeple]

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[turbid dome]

Why can’t they?

[cerulean pivot]

I'll take that as an insult

[thorny steeple]

I always see you 4 people talking about religion and politics only lmfao

[turbid dome]

You don’t need me to explain a human to you

[dry wigeon]

Did you say Ya Zahra three times today

[cerulean pivot]

Suggest a more interesting topic buddy

[fresh flower]

I'm the ceo of this channel

[thorny steeple]

Too lazy

[glossy ether]

i stick with ali and hussain bro

[cerulean pivot]

Then watch and learn like a good boy

[cerulean pivot]

Misogynist

[pseudo flume]

Ya Ali
Ya hussain

[glossy ether]

exactly

[turbid dome]

Well once you figure out what a human is we can have this conversation

[cerulean pivot]

Ya Zahraa

[thorny steeple]

I'm quite a bad boy and this isn't tuff

[limpid inlet]

😑😑

[pseudo flume]

Why minecraft is muted again

[cerulean pivot]

Poor guy

[dry wigeon]

No bro, hussain charges to 50%, zahra charges to 100%
ali only changes to an iphone

[glossy ether]

hmmm i see bro

[slow yoke]

what do you want

[turbid dome]

No I just think it’s stupid to have to explain the metaphysical concept of humans/homo sapiens to have a discussion on legal systems

[limpid inlet]

cute dog

[thorny steeple]

Yes really cute

[pseudo flume]

12 acres of farmland in southwest france

[limpid inlet]

yeah

[pseudo flume]

Why the goddam minecraft is muted again

[cerulean pivot]

Our beloved autistic

[silent wraith]

You ignored hadiths didn't you

[slow yoke]

me too

[neon sierra]

I think he has been muted for a while now

[pseudo flume]

I'm glad you didn't put hashtag

[turbid dome]

Couldn’t even read my original thing properly 😭

[pseudo flume]

No, he was muted 10 minutes ago

[fresh flower]

I never said you're in favour of it or supporting it

I said it's a lukewarm version of fascism

[pseudo flume]

Minecraft is muted, lucky dog

[thorny steeple]

A local street pup I took pic of after a meal

He was already sleeping in my arms

[fresh flower]

It's obviously very dangerous to have an atheist ideology ran by a state

[pseudo flume]

Minecraft would have taken this pic before a meal

[dry wigeon]

We can use it to get rid of @main zephyr

[pseudo flume]

It looks really beautiful

Fat boy

[fresh flower]

Please God I need this

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but he couldn't survive parvo infection

Sad life

We even tried fluid therapy

[turbid dome]

You said specifically that this (replying to my comment, implying my comment, not laicite) is a lukewarm version of fascism

[pseudo flume]

How did it go?

[fresh flower]

Yes I strongly believe that the Lacaite thing is a step toward fascism

Enforcing your ideology onto others is a bad thing, and that’s not exclusive to religions

[pseudo flume]

Joining college is the way to go

[thorny steeple]

they were on the last stage of illness and we gave them iv fluids. This one couldn't survive and his hister died in front of me from possible heart attack. I even gave cpr but couldn't help her.

[fresh flower]

My turning point was reading about how traditional views have directly caused the near extinction of emos

[thorny steeple]

I never tried this before but I think you chn start by being a part of lgbtq

[pseudo flume]

I'm so sorry for your lose, pets are like a part of the family, i can relate you gang

You did what you could, that's the best

[turbid dome]

I think laicite is quite broad, but the current form definitely is.

Lmao, remember to ignore the material and write about social issues

[turbid dome]

For you specifically you would do great at writing about antisemitism😂🤣

[pseudo flume]

My English is degrading

[thorny steeple]

It was not my pet just a street dog, I liked them a lot but I can't process much of emotions so I really don't know, I kinda feel crazy

[dry wigeon]

Average day in WB

[silent wraith]

Yeah but chose to defend mohammad out of nowhere calling him a noble man and what not

[turbid dome]

I try and avoid caring about any content creators

[pseudo flume]

Let's call it a pet, feeling this way is inevitable

[turbid dome]

It creates a cult mentality

[dry wigeon]

Female Nobu in the chat?

[thorny steeple]

P diddy?yeah

[pseudo flume]

You cannot fix it in one day, eventually you'll realise it was better for the dog, sometimes death is better then suffering

[thorny steeple]

I see

[turbid dome]

I prefer history, is there anything specifically you’re interested in?

[pseudo flume]

Atleast I'm whiter than you

[thorny steeple]

Tbh yeah

[pseudo flume]

And it'll take few months to realise those fluid treatments were likely a scam, anyway I'm proud of you for doing whatever you could

[thorny steeple]

Well they aren't a scam really i we saved 2 dogs before but like every body is different but as you said they are in better place so it okay

[neon sierra]

he wanna start his new year with mutes smh

[turbid dome]

That’s quite broad and it’s quite multifaceted, generally history books focusing on more specific topics are better. Hard to say if there’s anything that covers it all, that sounds more like a conclusion you would come to after reading more about history pertaining to the west

[pseudo flume]

Yes, he's definitely in a better state 💖

My vet was a scammer btw that's why I assumed it

[pseudo flume]

There's a karen mod among us

[neon sierra]

nale?

[dry wigeon]

Won't matter when you get discriminated against for having an indian passport

[turbid dome]

No but it’s still quite entertaining 😂

[thorny steeple]

How 😭

[woven pewter]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTLNFZeDHc2/?igsh=ZW1oeGN3M3h2aGEw

lifebythor

Problems and solutions. The game of life in a nutshell. What do you think the solution is to this agenda?

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[pseudo flume]

We cannot be certain

[neon sierra]

hmm but i got no issues with minecraft getting muted

[pseudo flume]

Remove everything till ? In the link, if you don't want to be stalked

[pseudo flume]

Not everyone checks your passport

[neon sierra]

after the igsh it shows ur account

[mystic bay]

Virtue ethics

What is unverifiable? Virtue ethics? Or that virtue ethics is the best moral philosophy?

[pseudo flume]

I do, He's a test of my commitment to free speech

[mystic bay]

I don't understand what you're asking

No?

[pseudo flume]

My cat, anyway don't remind me

[mystic bay]

Yes, virtue ethics is a character-centred theory of ethics

[pseudo flume]

Emotivism is good to describe many aspects of morality

Not all

[slender sigil]

Hi people, how are you? I understand this chat is somewhat more intellectual than the rest, right? If there's any convo about math or history here, I may participate, as those are my main interests

[neon sierra]

Ohh, wait I kinda agree

but still i do not

[pseudo flume]

No wonder why your kind still ain't free

[mystic bay]

The 'best' character is the virtuous character. And I believe that the criterion of virtue is whether it tends towards happiness.

Like Aristotle, I think that the virtues are all moderate characteristics between two extremes. One extreme leads to frustration, and the other extreme leads to happiness unnecessarily foregone. The classic example is courage. Courage lies between the extremes of cowardice and recklessness. A coward lives a life of constant anxiety and frustration. A reckless person throws his life away for no good reason. Courage is the happy medium. I believe that this is the pattern with all the virtues.

[rich thorn]

wtf

[silent wraith]

I was dishonest? Lmaoo
I actually thought you've got some hope left, but you're absolutely pathetic

[thorny steeple]

rodger that

[turbid dome]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g34siUs36AA?si=WFJVY_9zhyaaj2JU

if we’re talking about philosophy

[mystic bay]

Because it doesn't take a summative or aggregative view of goodness. Goods can't be 'added up' or measured against others. There is no 'pot' of wellbeing that our actions are feeding into, nor is there an idealised 'end state' that is being optimised. The emphasis is on personal character-formation. Virtue ethics recognises that ethics is a messy business; we can't say for certain how things are going to turn out, and there may even be tragic and unresolvable dilemmas in which there is no absolutely right thing to do. So, we have to control the things we can. And that which is within my most immediate control is what sort of person I try to be.

[main zephyr]

Whaaaaaaat

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jenshah-naptime-gif-20973847

[mystic bay]

That is definitely part of it. Virtue ethics is attractive because it is much less epistemically ambitious.

But it's not just an epistemic issue. It's not just that I don't know what is going to make a future state of affairs the best one possible. It's not even clear that the idea makes sense. It's like game-ifying ethics: 6 points of goodness here, 2 points of evil there . . . Reality just isn't this way.

[fresh flower]

Who lied to you?

[slender sigil]

I'm new to this server, but I'm not new to Discord, so I can't follow you since I don't know the lore of this place

[shadow tree]

[thorny steeple]

It's not really intellectual but rather some people who have better english saying things in a fancy way mostly and talking about religion and politics

[slender sigil]

I see. I'm certainly interested in endowing my english vocabulary with more formal words

[thorny steeple]

What's the use of fancy english and when the core of your sentence is pure garbage?

[slender sigil]

Well, to make me feel better. I really like the feeling of being able to use very formal words properly. Also I really like british english

btw, I just realised that you can talk about politics. I'm not personally versed in politics as I haven't studied theoretical politics. I assume the convos here are more about geopolitics (which right now is certainly a very relevant thing)

[thorny steeple]

To be honest I just skip those big paragraphs about such topic but yeah mostly it's about that only

[slender sigil]

Whenever geopolitics becomes the main topic here, is there any toxicity or is it mostly peaceful?

[thorny steeple]

I won't call it toxicity it's mostly like ''oh you don't know anything lemme me tell you''

[slender sigil]

I don't think I'll be participating here in that case xd

[thorny steeple]

If you are right, nobody can win against you unless they change topic and try to stop you with miss leading ouestions and accusations. Just stay true to your stuff

[slender sigil]

I'm a bit tired of people that "knows a lot" but are so closed-minded that the only takes they accept are the ones similar or isomorphic to theirs

[thorny steeple]

Everyone is unless you have histrionic personality disorder or narcissim

[forest patio]

veri serious

[fresh flower]

Future is a bigger rapper than Jay-Z

No one even listens to his music

[shell hemlock]

Cuz they can’t do anything to em

Generally most Europeans don’t like Muslims

[high rapids]

Would you say that things were different in 2015 and that it has only gotten worse in recent years?

[shell hemlock]

Prolly gotten better

[turbid dome]

Not really, just like most European countries in that regard

[shell hemlock]

Nah, but the law protects them better than idk decades ago

Btw this is just from observation I don’t have any facts abt it 💀

[high rapids]

I'd be interested to know why. Do you know why? Otherwise, I'd have to do some research.

[turbid dome]

Idk, why does any form of bigotry exist

[high rapids]

idk tell me

[turbid dome]

Too complicated that I would inevitably leave stuff out but it both serves material interests and psychologically empowers one group at the expense of another

[quasi needle]

easy scapegoat to blame their failing countries on

[fresh flower]

There's no European country left that's friendly to Muslims or immigrants

We were talking about targetting religious people though

[high rapids]

prove that please

[high rapids]

You really think that

[turbid dome]

I wouldn’t say friendly to immigrants but the Balkans has a few Muslim countries

[quasi needle]

?

it’s quite obvious

who do you blame when your country is failing? the vulnerable

[high rapids]

I need a prove or a source

[quasi needle]

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/01979183231177971

it forms the basis of fascism too

you have an in group and an out group

[manic juniper]

Swedes

[quasi needle]

blaming your neighboring country usually works too

[manic juniper]

If they must control my country then they need to do it the right way, otherwise what's the point of controlling us

[quasi needle]

🇫🇷 🤢

[manic juniper]

No, I'm blaming the Swedes who lead Finland

Like our current president

[quasi needle]

do they

ur president is a 1st gen immigrant?

[manic juniper]

No he is a Finland Swede, they have been here for almost 900 years although many of them are more recent immigrants from 4 to 2 centuries ago

[high rapids]

The source does not say what you said or claim.

[quasi needle]

european countries are relatively failing and use immigrants as scapegoats

[manic juniper]

Yes ever since they named this region "Finland" and even when it was made a Gran Duchy by Russia, after winning in the civil war where they consolidated their power in the newly independent country

[high rapids]

Can you please refute that, otherwise it's a false claim and misinformation.

[manic juniper]

All the stereotypes there are about Jews can easily apply to Finland Swedes

Not saying those on Jews are true. But those on the Finland Swedes definitely are and they don't even hide them

[mossy glacier]

No, I think they just have proportionally more because of countries like Algeria, to which they still have colonial ties. This means that Algerians have a lower barrier to entry into the country, visa-wise, and they already speak French as well. I stayed with a host family in the south of France, and the first thing one of the hostess did was complain about all the Algerians in her city :). That was a pretty common occurrence while I was talking to different French people.

[quasi needle]

i’m repeating my point of view stated in the study. the study reveals that economic downturns and social unrest significantly correlate with increased negative sentiments towards immigrant populations

[manic juniper]

I feel like UK experienced this with Anglo-Normans

Isn't Nigel Farage one of them? His surname Farage doesn't seem English

[high rapids]

Would you say that if a woman who has lived there her whole life suddenly finds herself surrounded by lots of people who more or less don't belong there or have different religions/values and perhaps behave differently in cultural terms?

[cerulean pivot]

They love y'all bro @hybrid herald 😍

[fresh flower]

Yes

[dry wigeon]

French name, itself derived from an arab name, i think

[fresh flower]

I can't think of a single one

[hybrid herald]

😍🔥

[manic juniper]

They mixed with the locals and pretended to be the same as everybody else, yet they are overrepresented in UK politics and are wealthier on average

It happened so long ago and they mixed so well they don't have their own language anymore, and they roleplay as the average Brit

[mossy glacier]

What's the question exactly?

[manic juniper]

While living in luxury, not realising it's a result of their superior ancestry

[fresh flower]

Are you talking about Samj

Sami

[manic juniper]

No I mentioned the superior ancestry, this applies to Anglo-Normans

Brits with Norman-derived surnames

[fresh flower]

They're 100% over-represented in politics

[cerulean pivot]

We wuz Normans

[manic juniper]

Christopher Lee is another one of them, his ancestors were Normans

Guess why he is unlike most Brits

[cerulean pivot]

Lee sounds like an Asian name

[manic juniper]

It's an English surname but he descends from people with Norman surnames

[cerulean pivot]

Zamn

[high rapids]

Would you say that this negative attitude toward immigrants is due to the fact that not all of them behave appropriately, perhaps because they do not speak the language of the country in which they have sought asylum, perhaps because they do not want to learn it, and do not behave appropriately? Or do you believe that it is simply a matter of “hatred” that has arisen for no apparent reason? Or where does this “hatred” come from?

[manic juniper]

Does Iraq have these people

[cerulean pivot]

Jet Lee was British

[manic juniper]

People with particular surnames that are wealthier
Or wealthier ethnicities

[high rapids]

What does Zamn mean

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/zamn-gif-23821732

[cerulean pivot]

Yes
More in the monarchy period

[high rapids]

Did he eat the dog?

[manic juniper]

Disgusting, they are everywhere

[dry wigeon]

"damn"

[cerulean pivot]

Yet they claim they're the "original citizens on the capital" when they're turkified asf

Even their traditional clothes are ottomanic

[fresh flower]

Kurds?

[cerulean pivot]

The famous hat

[vagrant swan]

🦃

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh
Im talking about Baghdad bourgeoisies

[vagrant swan]

we call it "fes" idk how do you translate that in english

[cerulean pivot]

They even have a weird accent that's full of Turkish words

[fresh flower]

Fez

[manic juniper]

Fez

[fresh flower]

That's the red hat Arabs wear in movies when they're walking in sand with heat wave effect going across the screen

[mossy glacier]

But we kind of need those people if we can't stop the birth rate decline ourselves. In that sense, they help keep the economy rolling long-term. What I am for is better background checks and a government that can actually sort out people with pre-existing criminal records with confidence.

[vagrant swan]

do Arabs consider it part of their culture??

[cerulean pivot]

Ts
Called sidra

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh
We consider " shimagh " and " iqal "

[fresh flower]

No idea, that's just how I know what a fez is

[vagrant swan]

Was it about " globalizing Iraq" ?

i'm js checking wikipedia

[mint parrot]

Aren't you guys wearing the scarf like Pelastainian wearing it?

[manic juniper]

Isn't it useless tho, then we need to support even more people once they retire

[shell hemlock]

I lowkey learned something new today

Apparently Sicily have* a lot of Islamic imprints left

I didn’t know they had that much influence back then

[mossy glacier]

Depends on how you look at it. I mean, the 'bell' that every country in Europe is depicting in its age demographics isn't helping retirement systems at all. Migrant workers are mostly young, and it wouldn't make sense for older folks to move to more expensive countries with their retirement funds. So, I can't imagine they would be as much of a burden as they are a help to us right now.

[fallow tide]

Is there anyone here whose native language isn’t English? I’m curious how you learned it and how long it took you

[fresh flower]

Like 2 years of online gaming

[mossy glacier]

I consume a lot of media: books, YouTube videos, anime, basically anything I can get my hands on.

[mossy glacier]

Yeah, anything with a voice chat build in or a Discord community around it is pure gold!

[fresh flower]

Back then it was black ops 2 and bf3 mostly

[fresh flower]

Literally the reason why I have a discord account, back then it was only for people who played games

[mossy glacier]

WUT

[fresh flower]

No but I know a lot of Italian because I meet them the most on the servers I play on

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah , i think I've said it already
Called " shimagh "
It's mesopotamian originally

[fallow tide]

I can speak Russian

[mint parrot]

I didn't know the name

[mossy glacier]

I wasn't aware of that and I do not have an account on Reddit, but I'll take it as a compliment! 😂

[fallow tide]

привет

[mossy glacier]

Yeah, now we gained some more and less welcome new friends...

[fallow tide]

How well do you know Russian?

у меня тоже все хорошо

[mossy glacier]

My Russian friend really struggles with sentence structure. Do you all experience that too? If so, do you have any tips I could give him to improve?

Alright so he's already on the right track. Thanks!

Well, he's already pretty fluent, but he doesn't quite meet the standards set for him at work, especially in client meetings. To be fair, he's also learning German at the same time, and he struggles with the same points there as well. So, I guess time will get him up to speed.

[cyan rampart]

Откуда ты? ||(I'm 🇲🇩)||

[fallow tide]

из россии

Санкт-Петербург если быть точным

[cyan rampart]

Oh ..

Хорошо!!

Привет из Приднестровья! XD

[fallow tide]

хорошо знаешь русский?

[cyan rampart]

Я бы сказала, да, хотя этому меня научили родители, потому что, родившись в Молдове, в Приднестровье, я переехала в Испанию через месяц после рождения, Поэтому я считаю, что говорю достаточно формально

[fallow tide]

я удивлен

ты достаточно хорошо говоришь

[cyan rampart]

Hahaha

[cyan rampart]

Спасибо

Я лучше говорю по-испански, по-каталонски, по-английски и по-румынски я бы сказал, что пишу по-русски лучше, чем говорю на нём

😭😭

[cyan rampart]

I speak those four languages better than Russian 😭👍🏻

[prisma cipher]

Say him и снова седая ночь и только ей доверию я.

[fresh flower]

What in the sanctions is going on here

[mossy glacier]

Don't ask me! They just started russaining away....

[main zephyr]

Olly answer me

[fresh flower]

I've reported you to the mods for harassment

[main zephyr]

If you were Jewish would you be jolly

Olly

😢

[main zephyr]

Did you really

[fresh flower]

No idk how to report

I would if I knew though

[main zephyr]

Then would you be jolly

[mossy glacier]

Why? Just block him....

[fallow shard]

Skill issue to report

[fresh flower]

He follows me across several servers

He keeps telling me how little he showers

[main zephyr]

Noooo

[mossy glacier]

Block the Account.

[main zephyr]

I don't tell you that

[mossy glacier]

What in the antisemitism is going on here?

[fresh flower]

Last time he showered was 3 days ago

[main zephyr]

His name is olly and with a j Jew he would be jolly

[fresh flower]

Do you see what I have to deal with in this channel

[mossy glacier]

Ok, it seems like the harassment can't be that bad then LOL.

[main zephyr]

I ate tuna again Olly

[mossy glacier]

I like how it rhymes. Good job 👍

[fresh flower]

Can you explain to this "person" that eating tuna 4 times per week is not healthy and just puts you at an increased risk of mercury poisoning

When I told him that he called me the r-slur and said "How can eating tuna turn me into a planet?"

[main zephyr]

I didn't call you the r word

You called me that

[fresh flower]

The details are not important

[main zephyr]

It's ok Olly you're my frien

[mossy glacier]

How much tuna are we talking about?

[main zephyr]

One can

Sometimes two

[fresh flower]

4-6 cans per week, for the past 10 years

[mossy glacier]

Seems fine to me...

[fresh flower]

Important detail: he has a cat and he edges it with the tuna cans

[main zephyr]

I don't

I give them if I don't eat it all

Like today

[main zephyr]

Three cats

[fresh flower]

Holy fuck you have 3 cats?

[main zephyr]

I used to have 5 😢

[mossy glacier]

I'm not sacrificing my sleep for this. Good luck you two!

[fresh flower]

@dry wigeon Is this true? This guy has 3 cats?💀💀💀

[main zephyr]

Yesss

Manchita, Tigre and Cantinflas

[fresh flower]

Why did you give them weird names

[main zephyr]

It's spots tiger and Cantinflas

This is cantinflas

It's my fault, I'm contagious

This is the real cantinflas

I showererr

[fresh flower]

Who is that

He looks like Prince

[main zephyr]

Who

I have no idea who that is

[fresh flower]

I don't want to see you claim to be gay or trans or whatever ever again

[main zephyr]

I'm not gay I'm not trans

[main zephyr]

A comedian and mime

Mexican

I think

[noble raven]

Cute

[main zephyr]

Thank you

My cat is beautiful

[noble raven]

Is your cat out of eyeballs? It’s hard to tell I still like the cat anyway.

[main zephyr]

No, he just has his eyes closed

[night star]

Why

[main zephyr]

Because I'm just not

[versed bane]

Brother asked a very good question

https://tenor.com/view/zakir-naik-muslim-candles-fierce-point-gif-17453203

[fossil perch]

That's prince

[slender coral]

I've always known about this but didn't know there's media coverage for it. I'm glad although it's small. This country is a shithole for everyone not just these people, but they certainly suffer more.
https://youtu.be/cZ5Qraux-Rg?

[slender coral]

No bro, our police is busy chasing gays and political dissents.

[urban swift]

Even the police are involved ? Oh boy I see a bleak end to this
@mystic bay may enjoy this piece of news

[slender coral]

I think gangs working alongside the police is more concerning 😅