🧠｜serious-chat

[frozen cape]

i already do

[neon apex]

Thx man

[thorny steeple]

i se

[thorny steeple]

🤙

[neon apex]

Do u want me to ask you in dm?

[lusty zenith]

How dare you call me a """""man"""""????

[frozen cape]

I wouldn't mind

[neon apex]

Add me as a friend

I can't chat

[frozen cape]

I did, replies might be late just turned new year's for us

[swift crest]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[neon apex]

Oo, for me is 5 more hours until the new year in my country

[woven quail]

[swift crest]

[woven quail]

[swift crest]

[woven quail]

[swift crest]

[woven quail]

[thin lintel]

[swift crest]

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

HOW WAS YOUR EXAM???

[thin lintel]

OHH YEAHHHH IT WAS GOODIEEE🥹 thanks for asking dear

HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADV

💗

[swift crest]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[swift crest]

[thin lintel]

💗 ♥️

[vestal elk]

The exam is coming solo squad

[woven quail]

Fr💔

[vestal elk]

The person who set the questions wanted me to fail but he definitely couldn’t

[woven quail]

W raphina

W

[vestal elk]

[woven quail]

[manic juniper]

Don't know but sounds like crap

[arctic heart]

I’m in this server for past few months and I only see you in serious chat

[swift crest]

She's an OG member of serious chat

She's quite busy ig

[golden jetty]

Nm wbu

What is linz known for

[gloomy frost]

Dude it's okay.

[lusty zenith]

Okay """"""""""man"""""""""""

Next year gonna be just as bad as this one, if not worse. I can feel it already

[thin lintel]

I.....I..... Still can't process that its new year

[lusty zenith]

🎉

[thin lintel]

🥀 🥀

True gng 😭

😭 😭 fr

[thin sleet]

Coping

Covid times were worse

[thin sleet]

For me ofc

It is getting worse every year

There is no escape from this loop

[gray rapids]

What's faster car,,,koenigseg or Bugatti 👉👈

[sturdy mango]

hello

is this new year guys

+1

why this chat dead

[thin lintel]

Who r u

[thin sleet]

There is a cat that is walking by the street

[lusty zenith]

Welcome to the club

[thin sleet]

Cat sees a ice cream truck

I am telling a story

[thin sleet]

Cat hops into the truck and asks the ice cream man

Why don't you make rat flavoured ice cream

Ice cream man focused on his job gets instantly terrified by cat talking

But not because the cat is able to comprehend human language

But because of the flavour cat desires

End of the story

[lusty zenith]

I mean what other flavor is a cat supposed to desire

[thin sleet]

Catnip

[lusty zenith]

Okay fair

I like when people overexplain. It shows a vulnerable character trait that I can exploit

[swift crest]

Bruh

[lusty zenith]

Anyway good talk. Gotta go. Bye bye see ya. Let's maximize suffering together next year yayy

[thin sleet]

I don't think you can gain profit from this in someway

[thin lintel]

"كل عام وأنتم بخير. أتمنى أن يكون العام الجديد مليئاًبالحب، والسلام، واللحظات التي تجعل قلوبكم تبتسمشكراً لكونكم جزءاً من حياتي، وأتمنى لنا جميعاً سنة مليئةبالبركة والنجاح

Ion understand it myself twin

☹️

☹️

[swift crest]

DON'T FORCE MY GURL

SHE'S STUDYING FOR EXAMS

[lusty zenith]

What would youuuuuu know

[grave drum]

If silence fixed anything, men wouldn’t be burning out, checking out, or killing themselves.

[shy summit]

[grave drum]

Saying “anyone can experience this” doesnt refute the point.

[grave drum]

The question isn’t exclusivity, it’s prevalence and how often men are discouraged from talking about it.

[thin lintel]

Me is sad

[thin lintel]

Awww💗

[gloomy frost]

Okay "dude"

[sturdy mango]

Phak you

[thin lintel]

🥀 real

[thin lintel]

ur mean bro its new year be nice

[thin lintel]

"كل عام وأنتم بخير. أتمنى أن يكون العام الجديد مليئاًبالحب، والسلام، واللحظات التي تجعل قلوبكم تبتسمشكراً لكونكم جزءاً من حياتي، وأتمنى لنا جميعاً سنة مليئةبالبركة والنجاح

Exams☹️

[sturdy mango]

You too buddy

[thin lintel]

See bro I m better in arabic than ya

I m so smart ong

I should get the Nobel prize

[sturdy mango]

متخلف عقلياً

[uncut tiger]

@lusty zenith

[thin lintel]

I saw that

Oh I thought u deleted it

[thin lintel]

Wot

I m smart bro

And a billionaire

[cyan hearth]

hello everyone hows ur day going

[thin lintel]

Epstein's lost child 😔 ✌️

[uncut vapor]

the prevalence is small

like what, am i gonna sit all day and be feared about people's opinions

im trying to tell you anyone can experience this because they can experience it and just ignore it

stress and expectations? trivial

negligible too

i dont think these things are real, you can listen to their expectation and have it on your mind all the time or you can choose to ignore and do something else

[sharp creek]

theee new year comes ohhhhhhhh
do you have any interesting plan in the new year

[cerulean pivot]

Same to you buddy

[tame sun]

You do realise this isn't a workable solution for a societal problem, right?

[mystic bay]

Societal problems aren't real

[tame sun]

It might help that specific individual cope with that widespread issue, but it won't help an entire generation of people.

[thin lintel]

[uncut vapor]

Solution is destroy the myth guy

[tame sun]

The existence of society implicates the existence of societal problems.

It's akin to saying that poor people should have been more savvy in their life.

[cyan hearth]

so what do you think society should not exist

[shy summit]

This is literally the myth of control

[uncut vapor]

They dont know yet

[tame sun]

This is why I scoff at people that embrace those of the like of Ayn Rand. (not directed at you)

Society must exist, and we must opt to fix the issues that plague its people. Individualism is selfish and ultimately destructive.

[mystic bay]

What has Ayn Rand got to do with anything

[uncut vapor]

😛
Its more like choosing to get depressed, in short

[tame sun]

She embraced hyper individualism. A philosophical view that does nothing but poison your society and ask for it to be ripped apart.

[uncut vapor]

I can show you how to stop being irrational and you choose not to do that

[sharp creek]

who is he

[mystic bay]

What is "hyper individualism"?

[cyan hearth]

dont you think the societal problems are created because of the selfish behavior of people ?

[uncut vapor]

Its simple

You can ignore and get good

[sharp creek]

you discuss these issues at the new years day?

[uncut vapor]

Holy hell ong im so scared i hate being a man ongg so scary

[tame sun]

Mhm. Ayn Rand greatly opposed collectivism as a philosophy and venerated a Laissez-faire capitalist society. One can say that she didn't believe in it as just a form of economy, but as a form of individual philosophy too. It is dubbed rational self interest.

With that in mind, I want to say that I was saying Rand as an example of a radical form of individualism.

[uncut vapor]

Man sucksss
Id say many people would ignore it

[tame sun]

I think so, yes.

[uncut vapor]

No I'm talking about men not women

[mystic bay]

And why is that bad?

[uncut vapor]

Read the top
I was talking with J

[tame sun]

Because it is very destructive to society as a whole. It discourages community and turns everything transactional. Or rather, let me rephrase these thoughts into a more defined argument.

Individualism tends to appear in the form of people believing they became what they are without any thanks to the society they exist in. Trying to deny that is a solely egotistic pursuit that tends to only harm the society that has benefitted you.

[mystic bay]

I'm not convinced Rand thought that, or that individualists are philosophically committed to that.

An individualist might think that it benefits her as an individual to exist in a society with all the advantages that provides. I don't think individualism has ever meant being "anti-community"

"individualism" seems like one of these words that it is a lot easier to smear than to define

When someone criticizes something called "individualism", they are seldom targeting what self-professed individualists have ever actually believed

Has anyone in the history of individualism ever thought that human society is bad? Or unreal? I'm not sure about that . . .

[tame sun]

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ayn-rand/#Altr

Please read 2.6

[tame sun]

That's part of the point I am making. The form of individualism they call for is incompatble with our relatively collectivist society.

[mystic bay]

Right, I know that Rand understood what she called "selfishness" as a virtue. But what she was targeting was "altruism", the idea that my life is entirely at the disposal of other people's pleasure, as though my only purpose is to exist in service of other people.

This really has nothing to do with individualism vs. collectivism. Rand was perfectly happy with the idea that the pursuit of my own interests will probably lead me to treat others well.

[tame sun]

That's the thing. She supported a degree of individualism that cannot allow for society. If everybody did what they want without the emotional component for altruism, we'd have never succeeded as a civilisation.

This is where objectivism comes in, and fails.

What is 'morally acceptable' for the individual may not be 'morally acceptable' for the society, as if every individual upholds said view, society would completely crumble.

This brings us to the crux of the problem. If all of us live as she dictates, none of us would meaningfully participate and uphold society.

What is good for society may be bad for the individual, but that's the cost of society.

[mystic bay]

Then why should individuals care about society?

[tame sun]

Many of us here pay taxes for social services we may never benefit from, but that's the pragmatic thing for those that arrange our society to do.

We all form small acts of altruism so we can uphold the system.

[tame sun]

Because they want 21st century amenities.

Those would not exist without these factors Ayn Rand called immoral.

[mystic bay]

Ah, so it benefits individuals to live in a society?

[tame sun]

It does. But many of these individuals lack the educational background to understand it.

This returns us to a common problem in our modern systems. Democracies are flawed because they take the opinions of the informed and the uninformed.

[mystic bay]

Did Rand?

[tame sun]

You cannot limt said opinions fairly. Who could?

So it is most fair to allow it regardless of background.

[tame sun]

I would say that if she was encouraging this viewpoint despite understanding human limitation, then either she was not arguing in good faith, or she lacked the foresight altogether, or even lacked said education herself.

I believe all possible interpretations of her work to be unacceptable for a society.

or, let's assume she just chose not to address this.

Her work is philosophically useless.

[mystic bay]

What you are saying doesn't seem very coherent. You acknowledge that it benefits individuals to exist in a society. If that's true, then an individual motivated by rational self-interest will behave socially, not anti-socially. How, then, is rational self-interest destructive of society?

[tame sun]

The same way a democracy is flawed, as I said. Few of us have the appropriate background or education to look for greater interests beyond the self. When man is allowed to be free, he chooses to be sefish. And thus, it is very easy to see that a society without these chains would succumb to absolute self interest and greed.

[mystic bay]

So if excessive freedom is the problem, and something from which I need to be protected (apparently for my own good), who is doing the protecting?

Who is imposing the "chains" you're talking about?

[tame sun]

Societal expectations in part.

[latent steppe]

[mystic bay]

But we're free to ignore those

[latent steppe]

this looks like a silly argument

if the argument is about whether society ought to have rules for people there has to be an agreement on what fundamental moral principle is being upheld in either case

[tame sun]

And yet if people purely obeyed because of institutional law, we'd be far less obedient.

[latent steppe]

i suspect the two of u have different ideas of what moral principles u believe are paramount

and in that case there can never be an agreement

[tame sun]

That was the crux of my original argument, yes.

I can agree with your conclusion.

[latent steppe]

well then isnt that just completely unjustifiable

[feral river]

HAPPY THE FUCKING NEW YEAR GUYS AND COMRADES

[latent steppe]

there is no way to justify what moral principle should be the most important without resorting to religion

[feral river]

HAIL THE SUPREME LEADER

[tame sun]

Except they also believe in society. We both believe in it.

We're just disagreeing as to the extent of an individual's obligations and freedoms, perhaps.

[latent steppe]

in order to talk about obligations u need to have a framework for what is moral

[wide galleon]

Yeah, Kim jong rules

[latent steppe]

im saying that u guys probably havent established that yet

[mystic bay]

I think my point still stands. Originally, you were complaining about the pursuit of rational self-interest. But, if you think that existing in a society is rational, then behaving socially is what rational egoists will do.

Now, your problem seems to be with people of little education (whom you have in mind, I couldn't guess), not realising the true benefits of society. Well, if that is the real problem, then it sounds as if what you're really concerned about is people not being rationally self-interested enough!

I think that, like so many others, you are using "individualism" as a catch-all for this hypothetical--largely fictional--idea that it's bad or unnecessary to behave socially.

[swift crest]

Exactly

[tame sun]

There is a very good reason that the rich (and powerful) and many of the right wing nearly exclusively love Ayn Rand. Whether you believe this to be a debauchery of her work or you believe this to be acceptable is up to you. But that has been the point of my argument. Have a very good day.

[latent steppe]

u guys are confusing ought and is

[mystic bay]

That's not really a very good argument. Who likes this or that philosopher is really irrelevant, and I think you know that.

[latent steppe]

it seems like u guys are arguing about what degree of sociability / social awareness is good for the individual and that clearly depends on the person

[swift crest]

Lemme go through the Convo again

[latent steppe]

if ur arguing about what is good for society as a whole then u need to define a metric

[swift crest]

You can't really have any argument if you say it all depends on perceptive

[tame sun]

It's not an argument. I am just ending the conversation by giving an example of the effects such thought leads to. I have only seen her work in practice be very dysfunctional to society. (there is a counterpoint that all kinds of participatory charity for example aligns with her views. But I am focusing on those that are invested in her)

I respect your view points and I am not continuing the argument. That is all. Thank you.

[swift crest]

Ayn rand classified individualism as one thingm
Just because someone can't differentiate between individualism and altruism doesn't take away any rand view point

[latent steppe]

because this is such a fruitless convo when nobody knows what is being argued about

[mystic bay]

It's not an argument.

Yes, quite!

[latent steppe]

you ought to read the message again and apply some degree of comprehension

[swift crest]

I agree that there should be a base for an argument, a common ground to go further
And it didn't end properly in this case

[swift crest]

Do you agree with ayn rand tho

[latent steppe]

i disagree with basically everyone who suggests that there can be an "ought" to how society should be organized

as far as i care society ought to be organized however it benefits me and to talk about organizing it for the "greater good" is not a philosophical question but rather a computational one

[swift crest]

I didn't understand the usage of "ought" in this context

[latent steppe]

one that is essentially impossible, which is why we have democracy as a lossy approximator

[latent steppe]

i do not think arguments for how society should look like are valid

except for ones that arise from theology, which makes it epistemically complete

[tame sun]

No, I like how you summed it up.

I can go as far as perhaps agree with them in the premise. That part doesn't bother me.

[swift crest]

Cuz it's a computational one?

[rain lava]

Only if im the ruler

[tame sun]

I have the belief that it requires a degree of existence that does not exist and thus cannot be a socially effective philosophy of living.

[pseudo flume]

I disagree

[latent steppe]

no because i dont think a justifiable and consistent characterization of morality exists

[pseudo flume]

Y'all should check #villain-event for 2 years of good luck

[swift crest]

I did

[latent steppe]

consider looking at error theory:
https://plato.stanford.edu/archIves/sum2020/entries/moral-anti-realism/moral-error-theory.html

[pseudo flume]

You'll get good rank in your exam

[swift crest]

OKAY

[swift crest]

Wdym by consistent characterisation of morality?
Could you specify it particularly

[latent steppe]

i do not think that there can be a fully justified moral system, unless it resorts to the "god said so" justification

this is not dependent on whether god exists or not, its just an observation about whether morality can be internally consistent / fully explained

[swift crest]

Ok so
What you mean is humans in general are susceptible to change, one of the ways for them to have fixed and consistent ideologies is when they are religious.
Did I capture it well?

[latent steppe]

not really

let me try to explain a simpler version of what i mean

it means that i do not think morality exists, and the reason for that is that for any moral statement u make such as "it is wrong to murder" i can just keep asking why, and at some point u have to resort to saying "because this is so" or "because of some a priori / inalienable rights of humans", ie a justification that is just based on ur own assertion

the only way to avoid this is to to either accept the conclusion that morality is based upon nothing and therefore unjustifiable, or that morality is based on ur god and whatever ur god said is right, because ur god is the highest authority from ur point of view

that is a watered down version of my argument

[swift crest]

I'd like to point out that the "why" questions are not the kind to ask when searching for an answer
When you ask "why" questions it's all gonna be a loop.

[swift crest]

This reminds me of nihilist views.
I do get that this is a simpler version of your argument
What is that we're arguing for?

[latent steppe]

because it is all a loop, that is the poin

[pure birch]

hello im serious and this is my chat

[swift crest]

There could be 2 conclusions

1. it's a loop
2. the kind of questions we are asking are wrong.

Why did you pick the first one???

[tame sun]

Existentialism does touch on this.

[neon apex]

Happy new years from Indonesia

[swift crest]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[latent steppe]

because the second conclusion does not make sense

why is simply asking for the premise in the premise-conclusion pair

there is no "other question"

if we are taking about logic this is THE question

[crystal kayak]

https://thencbeat.com/erwin-father-daughter-incest-charges/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[crystal kayak]

@winter echo This is just sad.

[tame sun]

A line of questioning that loops must be looping due to circular reasoning, no?

[pseudo flume]

I agree with abdul, 101%

[crystal kayak]

Ahh mine is a fact and hers are just assumptions.

[crystal kayak]

I forgot to ask as an ex Muslim do you drink alcohol

[swift crest]

Yo

Why r u online when it's near new year

IM FUCKING JOBLESS

THAT'S WHY I'M

YOU GOT NO FRIENDS??

[pseudo flume]

Haven't touched it yet

[mystic bay]

Employment is for losers

[pseudo flume]

I came home, 1hr ago

Had all the fun, sleep is more important to me

[swift crest]

YOU'RE AREN'T SLEEPING
YOU'RE ONLINE 💀

[pseudo flume]

Soon I'll be snoring like a train

[quasi needle]

source chatgpt 😭

what happened to google

[pseudo flume]

Yes, unfortunately this capitalist world is forcing me to work

[crystal kayak]

Why haven't you touched it yet.

[crystal kayak]

Tf go search it up neanderthal

You will see what you kind does to kids

[mystic bay]

You should just get everything for free

[quasi needle]

what does this even mean

[swift crest]

GO SLEEP

[crystal kayak]

Fixed it hope you can understand

[pseudo flume]

Waiting for a good moment

[swift crest]

Just do it

[pseudo flume]

Teach me the way, master

[mystic bay]

Idk, I'm employed

[pseudo flume]

Dude, eat a brick

[mystic bay]

So I guess I am paying for lazy people not to work

[quasi needle]

why dont we look at per capita

but i can just dismiss everything you say as below me

the second i see "your kind"

[swift crest]

[crystal kayak]

Really?or is the Muslim mentality still there

[pseudo flume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[pseudo flume]

What do you mean by this

[crystal kayak]

Before we continue with this discussion.what is your race.

[mystic bay]

Asking the real questions

[quasi needle]

irrelevant

[cerulean pivot]

Meant U hate it as a cultural act

Same with christians arabs who hadn't tried 🐖

[glad patio]

What's the topic today?

[cerulean pivot]

What's your race bro don't be shy

C'mon

[quasi needle]

im being told "[my] kind" loves incest after joking about someone using chatgpt

[quasi needle]

im white how does it matter

[cerulean pivot]

"White" is not specific enough

[crystal kayak]

What ever the writer used the case is still true

[mystic bay]

There are different flavours of white

[quasi needle]

maybe put 2 and 2 together and look at my display name

[glad patio]

Whoever said that to you has to be low IQ

[quasi needle]

youre not even worth engaging with

[crystal kayak]

[cerulean pivot]

You're listening to silksong ost i can't hate

[crystal kayak]

Yet here you are yapping

[quasi needle]

its goated with the sauce

its on the speakers

[cerulean pivot]

What a vibe

[quasi needle]

i listen to it in my car

[lunar crown]

Boo

Happy new year

It's 2026 in my place

[crystal kayak]

@pseudo flume

[swift crest]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[cerulean pivot]

My favorite one is Cogwork Dancers ost

[pseudo flume]

Well
Ex-Muslims are not entirely devoid of traces of their former beliefs

[quasi needle]

i like it

but cogwork core is more peak imo

[pseudo flume]

And no, it's not the reason why I don't drink or haven't tried it yet

[quasi needle]

and i love the gms theme

i turn up the bass and blast it

[lunar crown]

Then why?

[quasi needle]

it makes me lock in

[crystal kayak]

Say that to devil

[mystic bay]

Consuming alcohol recreationally is such a low-IQ manoeuvre

[pseudo flume]

Waiting for special occasion

[pseudo flume]

He's entitled to have different opinions

[lunar crown]

They drink wine in Christian churches

[cerulean pivot]

His wedding inshallah 🙏🏻

[lunar crown]

Even kids

[lunar crown]

I'll supervise

[pseudo flume]

Most likely I'll get married to undercover Atheist from a Muslim family

Alcohol in nikah would be wild

[pseudo flume]

You're also high

[cerulean pivot]

Make it undercover alcohol 😉

[cerulean pivot]

#dadjokes

[swift crest]

I WANNA BE HIGH

BUT THEN

[pseudo flume]

Yes, I'm also interested in psychedelics

[swift crest]

I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

[pseudo flume]

In controlled environment

[swift crest]

WTF IS THAT

[pseudo flume]

Just for experience

[lunar crown]

Tall*

[crystal kayak]

I don't agree but last question would you ever eat pork

[lunar crown]

Don't try it

[swift crest]

IM 5'4

[lunar crown]

I got a trauma from one psychedelic vid

[lunar crown]

Gnome

[swift crest]

TALLER THAN HALF OF THE POPULATION IN OUR SCHOOL

[pseudo flume]

It's drugs, like LSD
Produces psychological effects n shi

[swift crest]

🙏

No thankyou

[lunar crown]

I'm 6'1

[pseudo flume]

Yes, I'd get some

[swift crest]

REALLY??

[lunar crown]

Dude, any drug is worse than alcohol

[lunar crown]

Yes, and I'm Asian

[pseudo flume]

Yeah, that's why controlled environment is necessary

[lunar crown]

Technically

[swift crest]

Where r u from broski

[lunar crown]

Venus

[pseudo flume]

He's mongolian

[lunar crown]

I ain't Ungern

[quasi needle]

paracetamol

🤔

[pseudo flume]

You're loweky gypsy

[swift crest]

I don't wanna be single in 2025

[lunar crown]

It's easier to quit alcohol than drugs, anyway

[swift crest]

I want something to flex

It's pathetic that I'm single

[lunar crown]

Irish or Romanian?

[swift crest]

[lunar crown]

So am I

[quasi needle]

im interested in rubber ducks

[pseudo flume]

Irish

[lunar crown]

Because it's sold everywhere?

[swift crest]

😭

Can't help this shit

[pseudo flume]

Get well soon, we use it as codeword for weed

[lunar crown]

https://tenor.com/view/snatch-fairdeal-pikey-mickey-bradpitt-gif-27226689

[quasi needle]

https://tenor.com/view/lll-gif-16478741515042206817

[lunar crown]

Moderate drinking yes

[uncut tiger]

Let's go to the Island

[lunar crown]

Join our Minecraft server, I told you the name

[uncut tiger]

Are you gonna be playing on Friday

My exams end on Friday the 2nd

[pseudo flume]

https://tenor.com/view/wheelchair-fast-drive-bran-stark-meme-gif-14155600

[lunar crown]

Yes, but idk how fkd up your connection will be

We use Radmin VPN for local network

[uncut tiger]

Why do I need a VPN 💀

Because Everyone is not in highschool like you

[lunar crown]

Because Aternos hosting can't handle 160 mods

[latent steppe]

circular reasoning of the underlying logic

[uncut tiger]

Alright what's your research on?

[uncut tiger]

Do I forcefully have to use your mods if I wanna play in your server

[lunar crown]

Yes.

You'll craft beer for us

[uncut tiger]

Alright I'll get back to you on Friday

[lunar crown]

I build guns, one guys does magic, and another one is an engineer

[uncut tiger]

Tf are you doing in MINECRAFT

[lunar crown]

We need someone to do botany

[uncut tiger]

It's about fucking dirt blocks and ender dragons 💀

Tf is ENGINEERING and GUNS?

[lunar crown]

We grow diamonds like it's wheat

[uncut tiger]

GROW??

Mf that ain't Minecraft atp

[lunar crown]

Immersive Engineering and Scorched Guns mods

[lunar crown]

Ok I'll set up a vanilla server

But we need more people

[dry wigeon]

Nah you gotta start one on Meatballcraft or Gregtech

[mystic bay]

Pointless.

[lunar crown]

Mystical Agriculture, Hexcasting, Ars Nouveau, Immersive Engineering, Scorched guns, and Botania is enough for us

[dry wigeon]

Getting over in a few months then

GT takes a couple years to finish

[mystic bay]

You're the horse

Neigh

[wraith sorrel]

Happy new year car guy

[swift crest]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[pseudo flume]

Be nice

[pseudo flume]

Happy new year

[swift crest]

HAPPY HAPPY

ME HAPPY

[manic juniper]

"Be open minded" no I don't trust headlines, that's stupid

[swift crest]

YOU DONT GET TO RUIN MY DAY TODAY

FUCKING GET LOST

[fallow shard]

Girlie shut up, I'm just chilling and using you as wonderful example. You shouldn't be furious

[swift crest]

IM NOT NICE IK

[swift crest]

EXACTLY

ALSO HAPPY NEW YEAR @fallow shard

[fallow shard]

HAPPY NEW YEARS YO U TOO

[crystal kayak]

@winter echo https://youtu.be/AfnruW7yERA?si=YBgrGfQ4FRd4EBtZ

[swift crest]

MAY YOU FIND A HANDSOME, HOT AND HOPELESS ROMANTIC DUDE
WHO CARES FOR YOU AND LOVES YOU SO MUCH
THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE

NO I WON'T
IM AN ASS
YOU STOP DISCUSSING POLITICS TODAY
GET A LIFE AND GO MEET PPL

[fallow shard]

Thanksss‼️ idk what you want I HOPE U FIND WHAT U SEEK

[swift crest]

[crystal kayak]

"If people could only look deeper, they would know who is truly poor."

[swift crest]

GIRLS ARE ALWAYS BEST

FUCKING GODS CREATION

I-

IVE NO WORDS

[pseudo flume]

Glad to hear that

[swift crest]

[manic juniper]

Second best, that would be reptiles

[pseudo flume]

I can't disagree

[swift crest]

I DUNNO IF IM HIGH OF NERVOUS

[swift crest]

OK I TAKE THAT

[swift crest]

IKRRR

[pseudo flume]

Maharashtra got high standards

[dry wigeon]

💀💀💀💀

[manic juniper]

What

[swift crest]

SUCH AMAZING PERSON IM

[mystic bay]

Shush

[swift crest]

MY ENGLISH ISNT WORKING

WHAT R U GONNA DO BRO

[manic juniper]

This is why we are here

[swift crest]

NOT TOO WHITE
BUT YES
NEAR TO THAT IG

[prisma cipher]

Relax

[swift crest]

LEMME SEND HOW I LOOK IN MINECRAFT SERVER

[pseudo flume]

Abdul is a really bad representive for muslims here

[swift crest]

IK 😭

[manic juniper]

Skintone reveal

[swift crest]

🙏

[mystic bay]

Muslims are bad representatives of Muslims

[manic juniper]

It speaks volumes about the average

[dry wigeon]

Single handedly moves the average

[dry wigeon]

Mama mia what was that

[manic juniper]

?

[dry wigeon]

Should've seen it before the edit

[mystic bay]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-1-pizza-delivery-spongebob-pizza-delivery-gif-5044889088183133130

[dry wigeon]

LMAO someone who doesn't know my position

You can't even stick to being anti-wikipedia and anti-reuters, don't tell me to stick to anything

All the best to you🙏

[manic juniper]

Purple became too overrated and overused, it's not that unique anymore

Indigo has a strange name, hopefully it won't get overused soon

[fallow shard]

[dry wigeon]

Don't look up the flight carriers in india

[swift crest]

BUT YOU SEEM TO BR TOO GOOD AT BEING FURIOUS

[pseudo flume]

Abdul is lowkey bad muslim

[lunar crown]

Tf are you doing here

[wraith sorrel]

Learning english

[lunar crown]

Fair enough

[fallow shard]

He could've chosen peace and let me be but welp

This works also

[manic juniper]

[pseudo flume]

No games today?

[manic juniper]

I'm trying games I bought on a real PS2

So streaming isn't an option

[pseudo flume]

Sounds interesting, great way to start a year

[cerulean pivot]

Hdmi Capture card

[pseudo flume]

How about you iraqi

[cerulean pivot]

How about what

[dry wigeon]

I think HDMI started with the PS3 but idk

[pseudo flume]

Please no, I can't watch any form of media rn

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah
But There are conventers for ps2

[dry wigeon]

Why

[dry wigeon]

Never seen AV to HDMI in my life ngl

[pseudo flume]

I won't enjoy it, hella tired and sleepy

[cerulean pivot]

I have one for my lil bro ps2

[pseudo flume]

Do you guys celebrate new year, or wait for muharram

[cerulean pivot]

Looks like dis

[dry wigeon]

Does it require power seperately?

[cerulean pivot]

My family do

[dry wigeon]

That looks like a cable for power, seems legit then

[cerulean pivot]

That was an hour ago

[pseudo flume]

That's really really hard to believe btw

[cerulean pivot]

Cultural shock

[pseudo flume]

My family is anti new year

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah

[gritty echo]

Why

We are celebrating the new year not noel

They are different

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah

[gritty echo]

Not the same

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh

[pseudo flume]

Orthodox Ideology

[cerulean pivot]

I don't even know u

[pseudo flume]

Wait, you aren't sunni?

[gritty echo]

Is Your family orthodox

[cerulean pivot]

Fuck off

[pseudo flume]

Yes

[gritty echo]

It makes sense than

[pseudo flume]

I'm asking fr btw, i thought you're sunni

[cerulean pivot]

I've said that like million times

Lol

[pseudo flume]

You're always confusing

Ali or omar

[wild glen]

3raqi

[tulip flame]

happy new year guys i hope you do well in 2026

[gritty echo]

I hope too

[hoary tangle]

Was the attack on the Soviet Union a mistake or a weakness in strategy?

[wild glen]

Where are U from?

[mystic bay]

please be serious

this is serious chat

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-are-you-serious-cat-serious-cat-meme-gif-3988227232772767432

[mystic bay]

not clicking

[manic juniper]

It is expensive

[manic juniper]

Yes

[mystic bay]

the ps2 was the weird coloured cables

red, white and yellow

[manic juniper]

You can play PS2 games with native HDMI support through a Sony Bravia with PS2 mainboard or a retrocompatible PS3

RC PS3 are best of both worlds

[cerulean pivot]

The thick one

[manic juniper]

Or the Frankenstein

[cerulean pivot]

Thick always wins

[swift crest]

YOU GO REMOVE THAT CRY

[cerulean pivot]

I cried on the " bring out the gay side" part

[swift crest]

💀

My eyes are sleepy

It's fucking 1:30

I still have love to send

I didn't write shit for the main candidate

..hmmm 💀

[lament pagoda]

Which one is superpower country? China or paparica?

Comment below

[tropic basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kurdistan-big-map-kurdish-flag-gif-14558358164715580743

[wild glen]

Cool

[tropic basin]

You are cooler

[wild glen]

🙂

[coral belfry]

new year!

[uncut tiger]

oh so you're js dumb

[mystic bay]

^

[high rapids]

It´s 10:49 pm

at my place

[uncut tiger]

merry the 2026 oompa loompa

[mystic bay]

Merry new year

[turbid dome]

No he’s lying, sheen is in high school

[turbid dome]

Happy new year

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/kristigocouple2024-gif-13051603192575105829

[fallow shard]

Yippee new year and new disappointments

[languid stone]

at least we get to see fireworks

[fallow shard]

I can't

[grave merlin]

Guys i messed up

2027 is my year fr

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bye2016-happy-new-year-blown-up-welcome2017-explosion-gif-7464839

[turbid dome]

You can you just choose not to

[scenic wagon]

Happy New Year. Wish you all get abundance and love.

[pseudo flume]

New year mubarak

[coral belfry]

a day to forget (or to remember idk)

[pseudo flume]

A day to be passed

[scenic wagon]

This too shall pass.

[sharp creek]

guys im still confused about 'for someone' and 'to someone'

its hard to someone or its hard for someone

good to you or good for you

[umbral narwhal]

https://youtu.be/Zs8UyY-JLFg

[swift crest]

You're a pookie bro

[uncut tiger]

Damn that's sheen 💀

[feral river]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2006546377921253574?s=46

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)

I paid so much in taxes one year that it broke the IRS computer (actually). Too many digits. They had to update the software to get it processed.

X · Jan 1, 2026, 2:01 AM

You have to realize that most taxpayer’s dollar was paid by billionaires

They are using THEIR money to fund wars

Not you

[shy summit]

You naive fool….

[pseudo flume]

He didn't liquidate large amount of stocks and there's no tax on unrealised stock gains

I bet he paid less than 200k tax in 2025

[turbid dome]

Yup, most likely

[shell hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-nee-happ-new-year2023-gif-10998167734675669774

[urban swift]

Same to you

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/kristigocouple2024-gif-13051603192575105829

[dire ermine]

happy new year for everyone

[slender coral]

@urban swift broooo

Long time no see.

[grave drum]

"I ignore it” doesn’t mean it isn’t real. It just means you’ve adapted to it. Prevalence isn’t measured by your feelings, and denial isn’t freedom

[pseudo flume]

What's cooking in Switzerland

[wraith sorrel]

Banks

[urban swift]

Hey how's it going bro 😀 yeah been 3-4 months thought of wishing everyone new year lol so i installed discord

Happy new year 🥳

[feral river]

That’s why we should learn that way and join the billionaires

And use that to tell people they are paying taxes but tax them to fund wars

And print a tons of money to create inflation for fund even more

And the nation will be great under the protection of the US military

[sharp creek]

why is the us military

not the chinese military, you say that you are chinese

[fresh flower]

I haven't seen yall in a year ahahahahahahaha

[golden jetty]

Thank lord

[sharp creek]

??for what

[misty shard]

Lots of things happened in Taiwan last month December

[sharp creek]

···what happened

i still dont understand why so many ppl care about taiwan haha

it has to be a really important country for everyone

[true lagoon]

If Taiwan gets attacked, they shut down computer chips production

[sharp creek]

attack by whom

[hoary glen]

Minecraft

[true lagoon]

That sounds possible

[hoary glen]

[sharp creek]

he said he didnt like a war

and he will be a billionaire

[fresh flower]

@abdul

Wait....

@winter echo Your own people talking shit about your country

[true lagoon]

Nigerian opposition

[sharp creek]

how to say that in english correctly

By whom was the attack?

i figure it out that nobody likes the chinese gov

and ppl likes the japanese gov

ye i know we all care about the us politics

but i live in asia so

[hoary glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301240925875474525/1456136825130451027/834120477CBBDEC7BE1CD189C106924F.gif

then what

[sharp creek]

i wish someone would refute me

[hoary glen]

Unfortunately, there are relatively few East Asians here

[sharp creek]

hummm the middle east guys concern about god much more than practical lives

its rare to see western ppl here so i think most of us are the middle east ppl

[fresh flower]

We love China

[sharp creek]

what

[fresh flower]

All glory to CCP

[sharp creek]

???are you kidding

[fresh flower]

No

Why do you hate them

[sharp creek]

i dont hate them...

i love the mainland guy

[hoary glen]

For example: Minecraft?

[sharp creek]

i mean him

[fresh flower]

USA is low IQ country, Europe is run by liberals who are addicted to losing, Russia is spending 100k lives per sqkm trying to take over swamp land in Ukraine, meanwhile China is chilling

[sharp creek]

china wants to control everyone

but the us is free

[fresh flower]

The whole world runs on the petrodollar

[hoary glen]

Long Live Freedom

[swift crest]

Freedom doesn't exist

[fresh flower]

God bless the CCP for trying to challenge US hegemony

[hoary glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022894289564475452/1454798814077522087/4511E909810910CBC27A9FDF71D70FD3.gif

[swift crest]

Hmmmm

[sharp creek]

they have high salaries and good social security

what , and they are straightforward and open

beautiful girls!!

[swift crest]

IK

Turns out pakistani ppl are fond of Chinese girls

It's actually a thing

[swift crest]

Don't judge a book by it's cover

dead chat

[sharp creek]

i dont know , i wish i can have a trip to there

[true lagoon]

Wait for Nigeria to become the next superstate

[sharp creek]

and have a western girlfriend!

[swift crest]

You wanna be held hostage by CCP

[sharp creek]

what why

[true lagoon]

Every country wants to control its population

[sharp creek]

i mean to the us

[swift crest]

Why western?

[swift crest]

O

[sharp creek]

the developed countries are much better than the poor countries

[swift crest]

The word "control" means both increase and decrease

[swift crest]

Fair

[sharp creek]

i dont know.. i just wanna a cute girlfriend , no matter her nationality maybe

[hoary glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301240925875474525/1455418383289028760/2Clipchamp.gif

[sharp creek]

In developed countries, people usually have a choice to resist unfair treatment

but in a poor country, people are powerless

[true lagoon]

In poor countries weapons are more affordable tho

[sharp creek]

so we can only pray to god, wish god could save people

[swift crest]

LMFAO

[swift crest]

GOD ISN'T REAL

[slender coral]

I didn't see the annual Muslims argument about whether it's permissible or not to celebrate Christmas and wish happy new year to Christians online. I'm guessing it's because I'm spending less time on the internet not that they stopped arguing.

[hoary glen]

Which god to pray to?

[swift crest]

DEVIL IS TYPING

[slender coral]

Hello

[swift crest]

HAPPY NEW YEAR DEVIL

[swift crest]

HELLOOO

[true lagoon]

The pasta monster

[swift crest]

I'm with you in this

[true lagoon]

Humanity should embrace pastafarianism

[slender coral]

Happy new year to you too

[swift crest]

YESYESYES

[swift crest]

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fsm-spaghetti-monster-gif-332960732349610778

[hoary glen]

Let me share with you an inspirational song from the Soviet era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fGTQtuPy1Q&list=RD2fGTQtuPy1Q&start_radio=1

[swift crest]

[swift crest]

Why is it called creeper chan 😭

[fresh flower]

Wait why celebrate new years if you're an atheist

[swift crest]

I don't even know why we do

[sharp creek]

why atheists wouldnt celebrate new years

[swift crest]

It's just fun
Like why not

[true lagoon]

Why not, + you get gifts

[fresh flower]

Yeah Muslims/Hindus/Atheists shouldnt celebrate new years

It's only 2026 for Christians

[sharp creek]

what why

[fresh flower]

It's 2026 years since Jesus was born

[sharp creek]

i see....

[swift crest]

Indeed

[hoary glen]

I don't know either

[fresh flower]

It's year 1447 for Muslims

Idk about Hindus, atheists need to find their own year

[true lagoon]

It's year 115 for North Koreans

[swift crest]

MY WISH

[true lagoon]

Even though they don't use that calendar anymore

[swift crest]

BRO I'LL CELEBRATE EVERYDAY AS NEW YEAR

[neat juniper]

Hi

[fresh flower]

I looked it up

It's 1947 for Hindus, 5786 for Jews

[true lagoon]

Every year is a fresh start / sticking to Christians cuz it's the most common

[fresh flower]

Everyone has their own year except atheists

[swift crest]

It's cuz we are special

We don't follow humanistic traditions

🤷‍♀️

[hoary glen]

We commemorate a Middle Eastern carpenter named Jesus

[fresh flower]

What year is it for Chinese

[true lagoon]

It's year 4.54B

[hoary glen]

In memory of this Middle Eastern carpenter, we use his birthday as the Gregorian calendar date

[hoary glen]

2026

[fresh flower]

No I meant don't you guys have like year of the rat, year of the dragon and them

[thin lintel]

Ur an atheist

[true lagoon]

Who gave a Jupiterian access to Discord 😭

[thin lintel]

??

[fresh flower]

I have to google everything yall useless

[swift crest]

👉 👈

[fresh flower]

2026 is year of the horse 💯💯💯

[swift crest]

I-

[true lagoon]

Hobby horsing year hell yeah

[thin lintel]

[swift crest]

[fresh flower]

This is a real hobby in Sweden btw

[thin lintel]

For Hindus it says 2082 iono

[slender coral]

Humanistic isn't the right word here 😭

[swift crest]

O 🙂

[manic juniper]

Buddhists live in the future

[true lagoon]

How far?

[swift crest]

Then what is the right word

[manic juniper]

About 500 years

[mystic bay]

Christians live in eternity 🙏

[slender coral]

Human.

Or human-made I guess

[true lagoon]

Is Putin still alive in 2568?

[fresh flower]

They're way behind Jews

[thin lintel]

Yeah Iono bout it , plus we have assamese calenders too where new years starts after april

[manic juniper]

Yes, he became Kalmyk and built the largest monastery in the world in St. Petersburg

[thin lintel]

Ts is way too confusing every state have diff beliefs

[fresh flower]

Do Assamese say jai shree ram or are you mullas

[thin lintel]

So meh

[true lagoon]

So Moscow must be renamed to Moscowabad or the calyphate of Moscow

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/you-chat-bubble-gif-15529978361673547987

[manic juniper]

It's the Emirate of Moscovia

[hoary glen]

The Chinese zodiac calendar cycles every 12 years, and is not a long-term system of reckoning. Ancient China used the Yellow Emperor's calendar

[fresh flower]

Average CS student in Finland

[manic juniper]

The Yellow Emperor 💛

[true lagoon]

No way they made it a quasi-state

[swift crest]

Me hungry

[slender coral]

@manic juniper confirm

[swift crest]

Me go eat

Me come back

[slender coral]

What you eat?

[fresh flower]

She wouldn't know, I'm the femboy expert

[manic juniper]

The only one I know is a Savonian nationalist but has a Finland Swedish girlfriend

[true lagoon]

That why I declined the offer to study in Sweden

[hoary glen]

According to the Yellow Emperor's calendar, this year should be 4723

[manic juniper]

Average nationalist

[fresh flower]

If you want femboys go to Finland, Estonia, Poland or Scotland

[mystic bay]

I pray that gif does not materialise

[thin lintel]

We have one God ideology but again it doesn't apply to everyone , we are Hindus but not that traditional plus we don't traditionally celebrate diwali , holi , durga puja etc just bihu thats it

[mystic bay]

Scotland???

[fresh flower]

Yes, I know many, many, femboys in Scotland

[thin lintel]

R u a femboi too🥰

[manic juniper]

Slovenia and Slovakia

[true lagoon]

Bro Slovenia is literally their motherland

[mystic bay]

shocking

[true lagoon]

The first femboy pharaoh, yeah

[fresh flower]

Slovenia fell off, yall on to old femboy sources

[thin lintel]

No , we don't accept u as a member of the femboi community

[mystic bay]

I went to Edinburgh for a conference last year and I didn't see any funny business

[slender coral]

I'm femboy in soul, but trapped in a very masculine body.

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-meme-werewolf-anis-meliodas-gif-10321032519706887860

[thin lintel]

💀

[true lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-gachi-muchi-chad-gigachad-gachichad-gif-23229811

[fresh flower]

The conference wasn't CS related was it?

[mystic bay]

CS?

[thin lintel]

Masculine body sure Lil bro

[manic juniper]

What's your opinion on Burmese

[fresh flower]

Computer science

[true lagoon]

Computer science

[mystic bay]

No

It was a philosophy conference

Do computer scientists have conferences?

[hoary glen]

Counter-Strike

[slender coral]

Why wouldn't they have

[fresh flower]

Yes, and they fucking stink

[mystic bay]

I can imagine

[manic juniper]

Yes if they all take a shower, but that makes them rare

[true lagoon]

Yes, they discuss how to lower RAM prices

[fresh flower]

Like genuinely, I've been to one and it smelled like socks in my nostrils

[mystic bay]

Philosophers are comparatively well-groomed

[thin lintel]

Nokekk: , they messed things up but yeah the ppl of assam were dumb enough to bring british to fight them😭

[fresh flower]

If they're French they groom others

[manic juniper]

The British played on both sides to come on top

[mystic bay]

French 'philosophers' typically aren't allowed

[thin lintel]

True , defeated the Mughals multiple times but at the end 🥀

[slender coral]

Which confrence was that?

[true lagoon]

The answer is Heinrich Himmler

[mystic bay]

Funny but also serious

[fresh flower]

I don't remember anything, I just went with my friend to it because he wanted to go, it was some dudes speaking at KTH university

[mystic bay]

KTH?

[manic juniper]

How tf did Burma go from local superpower to fighting itself over and over

[mystic bay]

Ah

[thin lintel]

That's the ahom, the assamese . After that the Burmese came

[mystic bay]

Swedish university

I don't think I know any of those

[fresh flower]

That was my first pick for uni but I decided to become a farmer instead

[thin lintel]

It's not the burmese it's us assamese

Our land was never controlled by the mughals

[manic juniper]

Yes I know but didn't they defeat you and Siam multiple times

[mystic bay]

It's not much, but it's honest work

[manic juniper]

Then they ended up fighting themselves over and over

[hoary glen]

I know, that's Chinese

[thin lintel]

Yeah they did

[thin lintel]

Hmm yeah not all of em

[manic juniper]

Do you also have ancient abandoned cities

Like Bagan in Myanmar

[true lagoon]

Typical East-Asian country story

[thin lintel]

Well I heard there r some not sure

[hoary glen]

Just kidding

[fresh flower]

Yeah I'm really not interested in a career and grinding, I just want a farm and cows to milk

[thin lintel]

Yeah nw twin

[true lagoon]

I'm being forced to study in Moscow 😭

[mystic bay]

Sometimes I think about having that kind of life

[thin lintel]

This is like smtg I m really proud of

[true lagoon]

Lemme live in the middle of nowhere

[mystic bay]

I like to keep things simple and down to earth

[manic juniper]

Are you not allowed to do that with reindeers in Sweden? I heard Norway gave the monopoly to the Sámi

[fresh flower]

Sorry to hear that bro, studying has ruined the lives of many of my friends 💔

[thin lintel]

But yeah the govt never include the NE history in the books

[manic juniper]

Meanwhile we have both Finnish and Sámi herders

[thin lintel]

Dumdums

[fresh flower]

If it was up to me there wouldn't be any Sami

[true lagoon]

If I don't study, I'll be forced to join army. Otherwise I go to jail

[fresh flower]

They're glorified gypsies

[manic juniper]

Do they have the same history book for every state? Lmao

[true lagoon]

Why am I a male 😭

[thin lintel]

Naah like cbse , national level

I was in cbse before

[manic juniper]

Sad

[thin lintel]

Then shifted to state

[hoary glen]

It's okay, you'll have North Korean friends with you

[thin lintel]

Yeah they r dumdums what can we do

[fresh flower]

You can do the transgender thing

[true lagoon]

Probably death sentence in my country

They allowed torturing btw

[thin lintel]

I should prolly study I have maths tomorrow

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀💀💀

It's not funny but

[thin sleet]

Derivative

[true lagoon]

I'm friends with a guy who wants to become the third Genghis Khan

[fresh flower]

I just imagined a rookie torture guy threatening a trans with "Talk or else I'll cut off your balls"

[true lagoon]

Even if I switch genders, it won't change what's written in the birth certificate

[thin lintel]

Like as in killings or marrying multiple women

[mystic bay]

You can't stop being male, contrary to what some would have you believe

[thin sleet]

Maybe both

[thin lintel]

Wow

[true lagoon]

As in taking over Mongolia and making it great

[slender coral]

I heard that his marriages were forceful.

[thin sleet]

Do you really eat raw meat

[thin lintel]

🐒 🐒

[hoary glen]

He's very ambitious; the Ukrainian front needs him

[fresh flower]

The trans mod in feminism vc would love you💀

[thin lintel]

😭 😭 😭

[mystic bay]

Everyone loves me

[fresh flower]

He/she kept threatening people with discord ToS if they didn't say the correct pronouns 💀

[true lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/roman-von-ungern-sternberg-mongol-mongolie-mongole-mongolia-gif-12344468482054284483

[mystic bay]

how feeble

[slender coral]

It's a social construct after all, so yeah one can.

[true lagoon]

Just address that mod by "it"

[mystic bay]

being male?

[true lagoon]

The easiest way possible

[slender coral]

Yeah

[mystic bay]

Yeah, no

That's spasticity

[swift crest]

Imagine saying
"It is a mod"

[swift crest]

What is this

[thin sleet]

Transphobia in my racist app

[hoary glen]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-flag-ussr-cccp-russia-gif-394328406061708255

[mystic bay]

It's a polite alternative to rarted

[true lagoon]

Alright, it may sound weird in English

[swift crest]

And what is that 💀

[true lagoon]

But in my language-

[fresh flower]

I don't really care about the whole pronouns discussion, I just go into that feminism vc to ask if trans women have the right to speak on womens issues and that starts a shitshow

[mystic bay]

Mentally handicapped?

[swift crest]

What is your language

[thin lintel]

Mod in my language means alcohol

[true lagoon]

Prereform Russian

[thin lintel]

Mod mod

[thin sleet]

Bro do you eat raw meat

Tartar or something

[true lagoon]

I ain't Yakutian/Italian

[slender coral]

On what basis are you saying this?

[thin sleet]

It is probably god made this forbidden or something like that

[mystic bay]

Because the distinction between male and female is established biological fact, and not something you can erase through wishful thinking

[slender coral]

😔

[true lagoon]

You can't change your birth certificate/passport anyway

[thin sleet]

You don't know the definition of being trans

[slender coral]

No one is erasing the biological fact. What we are saying is that gender is a social construct, not sex. It's a position largely accepted in psychology today.

[mystic bay]

I didn't attempt to define 'trans'. Didn't even mention it.

[true lagoon]

Your sex must be written there

[mystic bay]

But 'male' is a sex. It is a biological classification.

[thin sleet]

Sex and gender are different things

[mystic bay]

I didn't mention 'gender' either.

[fresh flower]

So yall saying trans women aren't real women

[thin sleet]

Then what are you talking about

[cerulean pivot]

Are they?

[thin sleet]

I think they are

[hoary glen]

Is military service mandatory for all Russians now?

[slender coral]

So, you recognize the distinction between gender and sex?

[true lagoon]

I say they're mentally ill females

[true lagoon]

For all males who are 18-30 yo

[fresh flower]

But you just said sex and gender are two different things

[mystic bay]

I'm not interested. All I said is that a male cannot cease to be male. What you mean by the word 'gender' is irrelevant.

[fresh flower]

One is a social construct like yall said, the other is a biological fact

[thin sleet]

What

[hoary glen]

Is this because of the Ukraine war?

[true lagoon]

No

[fresh flower]

Hence you're saying that trans women aren't real women

[true lagoon]

It's always been mandatory

[hoary glen]

Alright

[thin sleet]

Being woman or man is a social thing

[true lagoon]

Altho the conscription age used to be 18-27

[thin sleet]

Being perceived as a woman...

[slender coral]

People like to throw the word "mentally ill" around when no respectable psychiatric institution would use it like them.

[fresh flower]

So they can rp as women but you won't accept them as female as per the biological facts?

[thin sleet]

There is a term that is sex given at birth

[thin sleet]

Biology and social perceltions are far from each other

[fresh flower]

Yeah so you agree with us

Transwomen aren't real women

[thin sleet]

No I don't

[hoary glen]

You'll still have to join the army after graduating from university, but it should be safer then than it is now

[thin sleet]

Being woman is a perception thing

[cerulean pivot]

What is a woman

[swift crest]

Whatttt

[thin sleet]

It js a social term

[mystic bay]

adult human female

[fresh flower]

My perception of a woman is the classical female

[cerulean pivot]

@thin sleet watch and learn

[thin sleet]

I don't know if you are all hard christians or muslims

[mystic bay]

'man' and 'woman' are just the human equivalents of words like 'stallion' (adult male horse) or 'sow' (adult female pig)

[fresh flower]

I'm neither

[mystic bay]

These people would really have us believe that we don't have a singular term in our language for male and female members of our own species

[cerulean pivot]

That has nothing to do with religion buddy

[slender coral]

Terms like man or woman are terms assigned by societies to categorize people. They aren't ultimate realities and they are often attached to social norms and definitions of how a man or a woman should be.

[mystic bay]

it's pure bluff

[thin sleet]

Yeah

[mystic bay]

It's like they're going out of their way to be as unpersuasive as possible

[slender coral]

lgbt phobia is more common with religious people. It does.

[fresh flower]

This isn't phobia though

[mystic bay]

^

[cerulean pivot]

We're talking about what the term " woman" stand for

[mystic bay]

It's just reckoning with reality

[hoary glen]

It's okay, I don't mind, so Zenax and I are friends

[cerulean pivot]

How's that a lgbtv+ phobia

[thin sleet]

This is just not understanding layers