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Take back taiwan first
and destroy yourselves too, wow thats so big
And US Russia as well they also have this capability
yall cant even defeat JAPAN
Itās just a game
And you're NOT playing
Bro Japan is going to invade you again
ur chinese and ur glazing USA? are we FR...
They have support from America now so china will be done for
Crazy
He's defending Israel and US more than china
Feeling bad for this intellectually poor individual
he is not chinese prob
I play a lot lmao I see why people hate at people who are way more powerful
Don't bro
Lemme check
dumb american
They do know itās because of us they will stay in that ground and struggle to survive
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Tell me how many times you used a gun
Not a secret I donāt hate to be a capitalist
The Japanese just smoked them, what an embarrassment, having over a population of 400 million but couldn't defend yourself against a country of less than 20 million.
They were so fucked that the Soviet Union have to intervene to save their ass
When u die only your bones left so who cares 
seems like you can't speak Chinese
SAY IT HAHAHHAA
He can but he needs to change the keyboard settings if he wants to write in Chinese
Getting more cringe
This guy Is from Chicago I bet
Lol it takes less than a second ä½ å„½
Yeah YOU are
Idk if some lower class of people in China would try to support terrorism outside and inside
Why should he lie
He's claiming to be Chinese, but I have my doubts.
But we do need to enforce more censorship
Confirmed, you didn't have my braincells to begin with, supporting the US and the terrorist country Israel.
Donāt worry that too much
Bait
Keep supporting genociders
I'll die on that Hill
Thatās how it make you irrelevant, cuz Iām really the beneficial
Na I "know" him to long
And China-Israel relation will strengthen even further
If I was him i would going to live in isreal
We will do that for you
Enjoy that taxation without representation is what you are obligated to do
Delusionall final boss
Besides that, none of others are concerned
He loves Israel so much that he's defending it more than his OWN COUNTRY lol
I would change my Religion and become a Jew if @feral river invites me for a dinner in his house palast (thats a joke)
Np i will cover that dinner
Notice how he was chill when they said japan is invading china
Okay lets do it
I'd do that if he shows his face
Even the US is trying to distance themselves with those parasites, but you want your country to be associated with them?
We can dock our ships at their ship
... this is just ragebait this guy is not real
Don't worry he doesn't represent all of china or the Chinese government
He's just here to say "make America great again" š®š±
Also we had a lot investment and export personnels to fill their demand
true ragebaiter
Some part of the Israeli drone were made in China
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We will provide support as long as thereās demand šØš³ š®š± š·šŗ
if he hear one gunshot he would run into the basement
At this point he's just here to waste time
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Capitalism wins
Jobless final boss
Is he even Jew?
You can do that in all the ports In the middle east.
You don't want to rely on someone who can't even protect his ships do you?
I dont think so
i think he is just larping tbh
Hey
Go to your underpaid labor
Doesn't seem like one
He's serious
People like him are the reason hell was created

They wonāt welcome him into jews if Iām not be wrong 
Dividends I receive from Israeli military could cover all of my food expenses
Lmao
@feral river are u a jew
This guy I swear
I mean their industry I donāt fund their military directly
But he supports Isreal thats why I said it
Even Jews for themselves doesnāt support natanyaho 
"I want attention" final boss
It is true though, all the things he's been saying is what he believes
What district are you from @feral river
Jews in the states were protesting against Israel's bad actions for making the Jewish religion seem violent
bro ur not funding their industry when u give 100 yuan to ur government, ur not the decisive factor
Yeah fr
Ik 
š¤£
If you are poor, just say it
true larpmaxxer
Rich people have a thousand way to do it
Still got taxed by the IRS for 10% dividends revenue
UR NOT RICH CUTIE PATOTIE
The loving Jewish people of israel
But thatās not too much anyway
-says the poor
You don't even have a nitro Mr Elon musk
Whatās wrong with being poor 
Thatās how it makes you poorer
I think with fund he meant he own stocks
This guy can't be real
Only 10% dividends taxes to IRS
You're proving your dumbness again and again
Not pretty much in reality
he cant be real
Bre left his brain in mommy's womb ig
"I don't have nitro that's because you are poor"
"I'm Chinese I support Israel and US"
Thx at least Minecraft is here when I donāt know what should I do
Just enjoy the great show while earning money from it
Who do you support?
The US VS vietcong?
Not pretty bad that feeling I bet you

If thatās the case I canāt deny CIA is doing a good job
But obviously I donāt get paid by CIA
People know what side to support and take benefit
Neither by Israel
Just donāt worry, it will go as what we wanted
Mr supporter and funder of israhell doesn't get paid and is so jobless that he defends Israhell 24/7 on discrod
He must have got the $7000 hasbara money
Who tf are we
This gender-fluid Israelian bot
Bruh natanyaho doesnāt even know ure existence
Antisemitism is on the roof again lmao
wtf ur saying bro
Next time you provoke Iran Don't come begging dady to make a ceasefire happen
Oh yeah, the greatest argument
Today we had IDF as our greatest appreciation to fight against such stuff
And they win the war
Chat I'm done
@warped plover dm me if you have any more questions
Bye chat
add me then
Me too
In the past I might argue cuz thereās something to, but now itās nothing
Itās already done for that side
Do you know what I mean by Done ?
Itās too boring to defend a state with bunch of terrorist supporters that canāt even defend their airspace
They are becoming bigger hamas
Not surprising anyway
I think its enough now
Reality and situation changes as the war and diplomatic stuff happens
Ofc I know, you got so thoroughly beaten/ have your so called invincibility myth shattered.
Btw defending an airspace as big as that of iran is not easy, if you know how air defence works.
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Plus
That's rich coming from a country who can't defend an airspace of some hundreds kmš
he has no clue
He is just here to kill the mood in the chat
I'm dumfounded
https://x.com/Ambar_SIFF_MRA/status/2004869834472104268?s=20
That's a chinese looking cat
Yeah so it's also how most X pages spread misinformation
What's anti semitism
Dude thatās American shorthair
actual American cat
Im scared
whats up chat
What's your opinion on isreal recognition of Somaliland
Idk really nowadays I just thinking about palestine
It's ok
I'm asking the whole chat
oh ok
I don't know why, someone should have a opinion on something else that person is not part of but, meh.
well i think Political upheavals affect in the whole world
And why do you care if your words affect the world?
Politics is bs politicians have certain bs degrees
I will care if it achieve my purpose
well the real politics are few
Now someone makes sense
If Somaliland would become an Israeli puppet state why not
Israel need to expand its influence over Africa
Together, we three genuine democracies in the Eastern Mediterranean shall advance security, prosperity and liberty.
With God's help, we will bring a brighter and safer future to our nations and to the entire region.
I donāt oppose to support democrats but they have to support Israel to take more aggressive action in the first place
And Trump administration is doing it greatly
HAIL AIPAC ISREAL AND UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Are they Democrats anymore
Donāt be jealous that I am actually very white
They are some democrats who would tend to support Israel
Not all democrats are leftist communists
What's your purpose?
Republicans would love democrats, republicans and all American and lead them to the final victory against the enemy
People are making a lot of trouble by using one or two specific cases like Epstein or something but that shouldnāt happen anyway, I hope this will be settled
And that does not disrupt them from continue to support the side of justice š®š±
Being p*do and abusing power are not the enemy of America? Where do you draw the line?
They are given justice already under due process
Omg
You're still here defending that country
Jobless final boss
Not all of them, definitely.
But that will apply on all of them by time
Now just leave some to contribute this country
This case should not be a political excuse to remove someone out of power
Thatās political struggle, not giving justice
What is the good excuse to remove someone from power?
in your opinion
or there is none?
If you are asking a question relating to political struggle, I would say if there is the struggle between two sides, any matter that relate the whole situation could be the blow as the part of struggle
You canāt expect WW1 from happening if a guy in Serbia got assassinated
But people in charge used it as the reason to go to war
Itās not because if he doesnāt got assassinated so war will not break out
Don't change the subject. You said this is not an good enough excuse. I want to know what's your limit?
But because the forces behind this issue are waiting for a perfect case to launch the war as they cannot hide out their ambitions and contradictions inside of the country anymore
Thatās the nature of the conflict
An excuse could be anything that sounds justified
then what does sounds justified to you?
You don't answer my question.
Which was in favor for me to gain more support from multiple sides
If I choose to go to war by saying fighting for my own country, I might only able to mobilize my own people
If I choose to go to war by saying fighting for God I could have attract more supporters
Itās all relating to what you would choose the excuse that include what kind of people you would attract to support you
Thatās the art of politics
Then what are you doing is very bad strategy. Because people hate two-headed bird.
Oh trust me itās a good strategy and people will buy it
It is the strategy that everybody around the world would use as a politician
Thatās the upper class strategy
And very pragmatic
And you don't fear that you will become poorer in this economic situation?
You'll stay high and play this game until you die
I am becoming rich and richer in reality
I would say Iām not rich enough, but Iām becoming more rich
But thanks for your upper class' wisdom man
Still a long way to go
Itās hard to be rich enough I must admit
Some millionaires would say they are just few pieces of sand if they compare themselves to this whole capitalist market
Thatās true anyway
You can be snake all you want. But don't cry for help when you hit the bottom. Because that's what capitalism done to loser.
I believe that possibility exists but chances are only given to whoever has the mind
Someone are materialistic poor
But someone are mentally poor
They are not compatible
Poor people can get rich but stupid can never
or they pick the godās bless who knows ?
If your job is support terrorism and separatism in Xinjiang and you could be arrested for that in PRC
Thanks for worrying about me zio
Terrorist telling me what I should do is crazy.
Np, I am happy to be a Zionist
You donāt have to be a Jew to support Israel
Being zionist in the big 26 š„
To support terrorism*
Haven't you seen the videos of starving children of Palestine? Even the israelis accept that they bomb Palestine while blind supporters of Israel like you believe they're some sort of good people trying to "reclaim" their land that was actually never theirs. Also if the US loves them so much they should give them a part of the US to live in.
I genuinely can't believe that a Chinese person is supporting Israel and the US that are not their own allies.
You're just their dog like other zios promoting terrorism thinking it's some nice thing while you don't have any idea in the slightest how it feels to lose someone closer to you.
They have already committed a genocide and killed thousands there and you're still supporting them. Insane
Itās the best interest for the world and the United States of America to support State of Israel which is the biggest nation that contribute the most to anti-terrorism and anti-radical islamic influence effort
Thatās my reason, nothing beyond that
Based on this I buy Israeli military stocks and I earn profit from their war
Islam is the fastest growing religion and it will even surpass Christianity in numbers soon.
Contributes to anti-terrorism? Oh please they're the most inhumane terrorists I've ever seen
I donāt oppose people who are religious but the lines are clear that we cannot tolerant any recessive, backward and extremely aggressive ideology which promotes terrorism to be spreading
And we contain it
Islam doesn't promote terrorism at all. It's just that you're brainwashed by western media
We are all containing it not only in Israel but also in other countries
Who tf is we?
We are one of the most successful example of how we have shut off their influence entirely
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Whose influence are we talking about here? Western or Islamic?
Radical islamic jihadism
I'll become a zionist if you tell me right now what's the meaning of jihad
If brainwash was a person:
Hamas is a terrorist organization, that promotes islamic revolution which also promote to use any measures to contribute to the revolution based on jihadism which includes arming children, using hospitals and civilian areas to store weapons, taking hostages against civilian, using aggressive ways to target against civilians and created security threat to people of Israel and Israeli nation
Taking too much time to answer a simple question
Ideology of promote to restore the theocracy rule of Islam by radical aggressive means
Wrong! I didn't ask you what hamas was, I asked you what jihad was and jihad doesn't mean arming children lmao you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Israel isn't fighting a war in Palestine, they're literally killing innocent civilians there. The only reason you're safe from them is geographical luck that you spawned in china.
Israel is the one oppressing Palestinian Muslims.
I never deny that people who refuse to follow the order of the IDF that caused mistaken casualties
First off, the people of group you mentioned was Israeli arabs
Israel is not targeting civilians by intent. Hamas embeds military infrastructure in civilian areas (schools, hospitals, homes), which turns civilians into tragic shields. Civilian deaths are a consequence of asymmetric warfare, not Israelās stated objective.
"Mistaken casualties"
BBC
https://www.bbc.com
Israel to review reports that troops killed three-year-old in Gaza
Visit BBC for trusted reporting on the latest world and US news, sports, business, climate, innovation, culture and much more.
And about jihad we're seeing so many cases in india itself this is so disgusting and growing as fast as cancer
Al Jazeera
https://www.aljazeera.com
Israel kills an average 28 Palestinian children daily in Gaza
Damn
17% Muslims of India are committing "jihad"
Muslims are a minority there and Islam civilized India. Hindus used to kill the widow when the husband died and you guys still eat poop.
comical
calling yourself civilized while spitting slurs already exposes the lie india had cities universities maths and philosophy when your ancestors were still figuring out basic hygiene sati was abolished by indians themselves not by people who justify violence in the present
and if your best argument is poop jokes congratulations
Poop eating wasn't a joke. You guys recently had a poop festival there I can send the link of the video if you want. Talking about basic hygiene
This is what you literally believe in
Source: shrimad bhagvatham 9.20.36
Sorry if I wrote it in the wrong way
Where did we justify violence?
Lemme guess your source is
Source: trust me bro
However, Hamas was born out of Israeli oppression. Even in China, where religion is not dominant, religious organizations like the Boxer Rebellion and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom emerged in the face of oppression and exploitation during the Qing Dynasty. Religion was merely a means of resistance, not their ultimate goal
Mao Zedong
The man who killed the most humans in history was a Chinese atheist
^
@feral river
Flying cars they said
Only 17% of India's population is Muslim and they are the ones being oppressed
Even a Hindu made video on this lol
https://youtu.be/2OwlPuB1eBg?si=CY_9-uDZ9W080duv
Most people talk about Indian Muslims ā but very few ever try to understand them.
So I decided to live inside the community for 30 daysā¦
No filters. No media narrative. No political spin.
What I experienced was completely different from what we usually hear on TV and social media ā the daily life, the culture, the fears, the kindness, the...
Flying cars they said
"6-7"
Why would him being an atheist be remotely relevant
2+4/7
He's saying religion promotes violence
24/7 š
Stalin and mao Zedong the two people who killed the most humans were atheists
Full time job
=6/7
I mean, you're saying that you're not familiar of any instances where people used religion to justify violence?
I mean religion doesn't necessarily promote violence. Some religions may do. Some people interpret religious books in the wrong way so they can justify it.
1.1428 grrr
So for some their misinterpretation of religion leads them to violence?
Yeah there are many crazy people around the world
I still don't see how Stalin or Mao being atheists had anything to do with their violence
Ok i was talking to that zionist guy who said "religions promote violence or smth" and I gave the example of mao Zedong and Stalin, the men who've murdered the most humans in history were atheist.
It's not difficult to understand tbh
I don't understand either
@hoary glen
I think he's right, Israel is indeed very violent right now
Even BBC accepts that
True
But I still can't connect Mao Zedong's actions with his atheism. If you say all communists are atheists... then perhaps there's a slight connection
You misunderstood what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying atheists or communists are violent, what I'm saying is violence has nothing to do with what an individual does, a christian, Muslim, Hindu or a Jew can be violent but their religions shouldn't be blamed for that.
I hope you understand now
In my view, some religious doctrines provide a basis for conservatism, such as the abortion laws in the United States
Just as Israeli Jews seek justification in religion for the legitimacy of their occupation of lands
I don't really like to sugarcoat things. Imo Jewish religion is racist and if their book promotes violence then that's a really bad thing.
They believe they are an upper class race, "god's chosen people"
Chinese mannerisms
Crazy how y'all aren't mocking his religion or ethnicity for it
yep
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Stalin wasn't atheist, the guy almost became an Orthodox Christian priest
Our great leader that liberated our people from oppression of the imperialists and united our nation to become a great power
Stalin was another controversial legendary leader who bring up a backward state of Russia to become a superpower after winning a war defeat Nazi Germany
Both are legendary leader contributed a lot to their own nation
šØš³ š·šŗ
Irritated
I never say the problem of religion that was promote violence
The problem of religion was to promote backward way of production and organization, using scam and intimidation to oppress people as the tool of the ruling class
Violence was one way they used right
Violence is a certain act you could impose something by
But that doesnāt equal to you would promote to use violence to solve issues
Use violence as a mean does not equal to be violent
You use violence to arrest a criminal does not mean that you are violent to do this
why
I never oppose violence and I donāt have to
Also Iām not violent at this point
Violence could solve the issue in short term, but to solve the issue completely, you need other ways
So you're saying the innate nature of religion requires them to be violent
Every religion has their implementation of justifying the violent way to solve issues
Even the āpeacefulā hinduism
Besides they are scamming people but creating nonsense out but itās a total backward ideology to form certain things out
Pick some country that does rely on religion to establish rule you would surprisingly realize thereās none besides ISIS and Taliban
Even Iran use their unique way of interpreting Islam and they still call themselves āRepublicā as they use modern institution to rule the country
I'm confused
I donāt have to say how backward it exactly is to use a stuff that was created thousand years ago to rule a country even backward than monarchy
Monarchy could be more advanced than theocracy
Remember, violence != violent, violence is a mean to impose certain things, violent is a hateful attitude that promote use violence to solve the issue
Huge difference
I oppose to use the violent way, but I donāt oppose violence
Oppose violence is purely stupid and nonsense
Violence is necessary but being violent isn't
Exactly
What kind of acts come under violence?
To put it in different way
Wdym when you say violence
You said violence is necessary, what is that necessity
To use force that include violence way to impose something
Like use violence to arrest criminals
Use violence to repel the rebellion
and who has the right to decide if it necessary
Use violence to fight against terrorists and separatists
You canāt say they bombed your house so you canāt use violence to catch them and prosecute them
That does not making any sense and impractical
The weapon of criticism cannot replace the criticism of weapons
Material force can only be destroyed by material force
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Exactly
We oppose being violent does not mean we give up the violence
That's sick
Thought it was sun Tzu quote
Nope itās the quote of Karl Marx
Regarding to the proletarian revolution
Ain't you national capitalist? you support Karl Marx now?!
I thought he spoke German, how did this happen
Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Maoism is sick anyway
I would suggest myself a communist scholar but I donāt support communism
I thought he was russian
He also knows Arabic
it isn't compatible with your idea of nationalism tho. He asks for global revolution.
Mr. Worldwide, I'll check if he could speak Romanian
Not socialist but communist. You dont waste no time do u lol
Itās a luxury you have a tons of time to waste
Realize a fact that time is precious as your wealth gets more
It doesnāt mean you should always do something but chat on discord just for fun and ideas exchange
That make me smart way more I could without
Always interesting to hear different takes. Wish u all success.
That's not... sigh
What's your take shawn?
No. Im scared i might ended up follow your ideology
Hi
Im extremely serious today
Dont disturb my meter
If my meter gets triggered ill blow up and explode
I will smash u
Do not mess with me today im way too serious rn
Ok father
Im way too stressed my muscles are stressed enough to knock u
Good boy
Girl
U girl?
What do u think i am
Good boy

How old r u
30
Married?
No
Can i dm u
No im lesbian
Its fine
Oh
Still got the women structure right?
No i mean im actually trans like from man to woman yk
But i identify myself as a girl
They are literally the same root word, violence is a noun while violent is the adjective form
Violence is forceful behaviour to harm/damage, violent is describing someone or something as one that is engaging in violence
His usage of the words is wrong
U talking about me?
Am i violent?
According to my previous conversation and my behaviour towards my wife it looks like u are talking about me
The fuck?
Idk either
Did bro just casually admit to spousal abuse š
he sounds like he's sad 
In a way yes
Wtf
But we don't know if he actually meant..so....
Bruh explain
Im sad
So serious guys š
My wife doesnt let me have pleasure with her atleast once a week
Hlo chat
Hi
Have you tried get other wife?
Bc you need it
What the hell is this
Secrets chat
Just tell her it's an issue and something you can't compromise, if she still refuses, Well you do you. ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I disagree with nale, he's lowkey geh
If she refused just divorce her
Good morning
build a fake case of her cheating/unstable.
Ask her if she is pregnant
Or sad
You're not entitled to it (185cm/Feminist)
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hey everyone
Are you sure you are not in the wrong place!
It's serious chat š¤·āāļø
It won't last
Not with that attitude
Confront her, talk to her if she is going through something
Should I ping abdul or cool cat
erj
Sistar !!!
Btw what is going on in Cambodia
Hello beautiful
Apparently ceasefire was agreed, probably wonāt last icl
Hi why no sleeping yet sis
What about before the ceasefire
Thailand soldiers invaded Cambodian civilians homes and looted from them.
Posted to social media and boasted about it too
I just canāt fall asleep
Thankfully tomorrow is a national holiday
War?
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I see i hope things goes normal soon
what do you guys think about indians. what u love and hate about india
I have some Indian friends, cool people although the politics in their country seem fucked.
It's true, and what about people of india
I'm not a believer in the idea that the whole people of a country are either good or bad. There are always good and bad folk in every country. What we can talk about is social issues and it seems to me that a big chunk of the Indian society is leaning toward religious extremism based on what I hear.
True
It's a reaction to the threat that they are facing
Existential threat
What's the threat?
Terrorism rooted in Islamic ideology
In India yr talking bout?
what?
Yes
What is its scale and how is it an "existential threat"?
Well it maybe cuz most activities are connected with isis and pak terrorist org and Kashmirs too
Large Scale and it is targeting the Indic Civilization
Yes
How large are we talking? How many Muslims are in India and how many of them are terrorists?
This is the backing from Islam which terrorists use to invade India
@slender coral
Islam never tells this to do but people are using Islamic slogans to do so... Brainwashing them and make them terriosts
Mostly terrorist activities happen from neighbouring countries, but there are unknown number of anti India elements who also live in India
How fuking stupidity it's that people think the root cause of terrorism is islamic ideology
I'm an ex-Muslim and I know how terrible Islamic texts can be, but that can apply to other religious texts as well. Religious people reinterpret their stuff all the time.
I am also Ex-Muslim
Murtad
Agree
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Ohh can you please tell me bit about that terrified ideology?
look up I gave the source
But does Islam suggest that?
You are an Indian?
Yes
Biased deceptive based evidence which hasn't got to do anything with islam
Terrorism rooted in islamic ideology?
What do you think about Muslim Indians?
Let me quick fact check this
this is a hadith (Authentic as per muslims) which promote invasion of India terroristic activities. I am strongly against it as an Ex Muslim. @shadow tree @winter echo @torpid dirge
How many imams are in the Quran?
Ask that to a Muslim, why are you asking that to an Ex-Muslim?
You don't know how many imams in the Quran?
They think being an ex muslim make them like justifying Islam because they didn't get know about islam in first place how irrational
Nothing really
What type of Muslim you was
A doubting one
Google is free guys
He means what branch did you follow?
Dude
I mean the school of thought / sect
Sunni
Sunni what exactly
Didn't you say you used to be a muslim?
I just want to know how many imams are in the Quran
Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamaat
Salafi /asha'ari
Which imam u were following
Google is free and you can ask that question to your teacher also. Why are you asking me I dont understand?
He's making sure u were a Muslim and not anything else , we encounter alot of liars here yk
I feel like I am a celebrity, everyone is taking my interview now. Guys relax there are several ex muslims in the world
They think you are a Hindu pretending to be an ex-Muslim to spread hate against Muslims, basically.
Basically
And I honestly don't blame them
who is nobu?
Maybe he is Nobu
Your better version
Yeah it true but.... I don't k ow... Maybe we should view it with prophesy of scholar
ah ok
Because you are claiming to be an exmuslim while in reality you were never a muslim.
Just maybe found yourself in muslims community or household and pretended to be a muslim just to fit in
A rational thinker will understand the problem with that hadith
U didn't answer tho
I see, thanks for telling me about myself. You gave a new clarity about my own background. Thanks good man
Honestly, Islamic fundamentalism is just bad. But I guess it's the case with any type of religious fundamentalism.
What does al hind mean in arebic language?
"Guessing"
Fcking guessing
Imam Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari and Imam Abu Mansur al-Maturidi
India is Al Hind
Are you sure about that ?
Ahh u were from the kinda cool type
It's tru
Yes 
Doesn't it refer to the Indian subcontinent?
He is a troll pretending to not know that Al Hind is India
Ignore him
Don't say it's gpt because it's basic knowledge
Yo, approach the conversation in good faith.
Doesn't this make the Hadith worse? š
First thing that comes up lol
I have a question for Atheist that I've been meaning to ask for ages.
How do you guys establish objective morality?
I don't remember you tried to talk with me about this before. Objective in what sense? As in unchanging?
I think what Arabs used to call al Hind wasn't exactly today's India. I'm not sure if it's bigger or smaller but I guess it was bigger.
Why do u think they want to invade India?
If I remember correctly, the region had a reputation of being wealthy. One of the names Arabs have for swords is al Muhanad from the root India because they used to get some from swords with good quality from there. So basically, they though invading India was a step for world domination.
Primary reason why they want to invade India is to establish Islam as a majority religion in India. What you said is secondary reasons
Are you fcking dumb or what ? Have you ever thought why would they use "hind" term in ancient times just for jihad ? Even though Indian republic didn't exist back then rather it's geographical region used by arebian becoz they were referring historical geographical region not particularl republic India
Go get some research
Well, I think they are the primary ones. A step to making Islam dominate would be Islamizing big regions, and doing so required resources.
true
I know this dude. What did I say that makes you think I object to it?
Note these names down:
Nagabhata I, Lalitaditya Muktapida, Bappa Rawal, Avanijanashraya Pulakeshin and search why they are famous for
@slender coral @torpid dirge
By āobjective,ā I mean moral truths that donāt just depend on personal opinion or religion for example, that causing unnecessary suffering is wrong because conscious beings experience pain. But it doesnāt have to mean unchanging forever. Iām curious how you personally decide whatās right or wrong without appealing to God.
what principles guide your judgments?
You're confusing geographical identification with jihad and that's whole context of that hadith
you are born with it
Nature gave it to you
Lack of understandings knowledge sometimes can lead you to deception
@unique tulip I think that religious fundamentalism is just harmful regardless of religion. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, You'd often see groups that are strongly hateful and speak in the name of these religions. Maybe Islam has the issue of fundamentalism being more common among Muslim and has a stronger global movement, but I think one must acknowledge nuances. Not all Muslims are fundamentalists, not all fundamentalists are extremists, and not all extremists are terrorists.
How so? The Hadith is clear. however the region was defined for Arabs back then, the Hadith offered incentive to invade the region.
I want to hear your personal, opinion not read an article from CNN
"Not all Muslims are fundamentalists"- I agree
"not all fundamentalists are extremists"- Maybe
" not all extremists are terrorists"- I disagree
@winter echo
Every hadith and scriptures which have preserved must be understood by reference and context
So what's the context of that hadith?
Can you prove it?
I did tell her
U can't convince a radical nationalist , he seems like one
what?
@unique tulip
Do I? Check what I texted above before making comments on my character
This is the context?
Bro u were an ashaari , from all people you're the one that have to understand that u don't take the hadiths literally like what salafis do
What else were you talking about?
Sorry the people who entered with guns and massacred Indians are taking those hadiths literally
I, like many other non-religious people, base our morality around the idea of harm and benefit. The moral goal is first to reduce harm and secondly to maximize happiness, and the purely rational reason that could motivate one to do this is how a society where those values are prioritized would be a better place for everyone include the person who adheres to these values.
Can you explain why is that hadith promoting invasion of Al Hind?
Yes
No one do that now lol , especially in India
You're living in a bubble that u made it for yourself to hate Muslims
I never said that I hate muslims. Show me where I said I hate muslims?
Your government even abused Christians in their holidays the last day
Dear atheist I'm waiting for an answer
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Recent incidence of terrorism caused by terrorists in India
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If they did, I am against that also. No one should be persecuted. Everyone should live peacefully.
So u believe that this Hadith made them do it
Why not?
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This one is more interesting than this bullshit @unique tulip
On the last one: not all hateful people are terrorists.
What do you mean? Which one is bullshit?
I, like many other non-religious people, base our morality around the idea of harm and benefit.
This sounds great, but I wonder how productive it is to implement. Virtually any kind of morally interesting question is based on some kind of tradeoff of harms and benefits.
Do you have plans to move back to Korea
I'm in Korea right now over Christmas, but I have no plans to live there again
Why not
Because my job is in England
Are there no jobs in Korea?
Not my job
Why not
It just isn't
Terrorists are the most coward, they target unarmed civilians
#SayNoToTerrorism
#StandAgainstTerrorism
There is no such job in Korea, or you simply don't want to work there.
America did the same thing, and you didn't say anything about it, you idiot. Only on a much larger scale.
I think it often can't be like that. With theists what I often see is the focus on whether or not the thing is allowed by god. There's also the appeal to culture and tradition. Groups that truly center their values around harm and benefit often agree on many ideas that are considered liberal.
Doing good is better for who?
The world is not that simple
The world has always been cruel, the strong gets stronger the weak get weaker, mostly only the less previliged get punished for violating the rules of the society. moreover what made you think that being good will make life/ society better?
Take the US for example they were founded in ethnic cleansing, committed unbelievable number of atrocities but they are still one of the best countries on earth.
Btw happiness is not something that you can rely on because whatever makes you happy have the potential to make you sad
I am Indian, I will speak for my people. When others speak about their people, no one says X Y Z are doing so and so, why are you ?
Cowardly scream
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Good thanks for denying history face the mute
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it's not history
This is the second time you've said something logical
You're just talking to the air.
Terrorism is a very good tool for control and destabilisation.
That's The main reason terror groups were made courtesy of uncle sam
My question is how you choose to trade off harms to one person or group against benefits to another. If you can make some people better off, without making anyone worse off, then that's great. But that is seldom possible.
I mean that the job I presently have is located in England.
YO
When my country do something bad it's heroism
When others do the same thing : terrorism
Are you happy to know that humans are born with morality?
Harm to who benefit to who?
Well, that's my question
Gurt
From an evolutionary perspective, humans appear to be born with a basic moral core, because it is advantageous for survival and cooperation. Research in evolutionary biology, psychology, and developmental science suggests:
Humans are born with innate social tendencies like empathy, fairness sensitivity, and helping behavior.
Even infants show preferences for helpful individuals over harmful ones.
These traits increase group cooperation, which improves survival and reproduction.
@mystic bay @winter echo @slender coral
oh i forgot that i was using CAPS
That's not true,
You still haven't proved it btw.
To what question is this an answer?
Where morals come from
We are born with it
Well, it might be where our moral sense comes from
But that's not exactly the same thing
thanks for contributing to the conversation
You input was quite valuable
thats India
Americans certainly committed atrocities but they aren't the only people who did bad things. The US, like many geopolitical actors (if not most), is not innocent. You are right that the world isn't simple, it's often many different shades of gray, and conversations about morality cane often be complicated but what I said was just to clarify the very basic idea that some people agree upon.
I think I'd use murder as an example because it's actually one of the simple things moral systems can address. Based on the harm principle, it's clear that allowing people to go around and kill whenever they want is not a good thing for society. Murder brings psychological harm to all involved, psychological harm bring economic harm, the absence of the dead people bring more economic harm, both psychological and economic harm cause instability to the society where this is taking place, and thus we can say it's a bad thing.
Beautiful
Your home?
yours
Oh thanks for clicking this beautiful pic of my home.
The harm principle prioritizes avoiding harm.
your welcome
I gave an answer and scientific proof that we are born with moral core but people seem to dont care about it 
It's like I gave glasses to the blind but the blind decided to not wear it
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What is covered under 'harm'? I understand if you are talking about not inflicting injuries or killing. But what about things like property and theft? How does that figure into the meaning of 'harm'?
They want to have a conversation instead of read an article, y'know.
@slender coral this is an article or an answer?
Oh didn't notice that sorry
It does because of the psychological harm that things such as those cause. They make individuals feel like working for themselves and for society is meaningless, so they stop.
Does taxation violate the harm principle?
Homo sapiensā superior cooperation gave them a competitive advantage that contributed to the decline of other hominids. Morality is evolutionarily favoured and integrated in our DNA.
I don't think so as individuals benefit from it more than it harms them. A state takes money in exchange for services and law enforcement which keeps us safe from chaos.
We were all once kid. You always had this sense of stealing a chocolate is wrong even before your parents told you. This further proves that we are born with this moral core.
Murder doesn't bring psychological harm to all involved viz the victim and the perp.
Many people enjoy killing people, it makes them feel alive
This is what I'm trying to press on. Your ethic isn't really 'don't cause harm'. Rather, it's 'cause as much harm as you like, as long as the benefit of doing so is sufficiently large'. Ultimately, it's a trade-off or harms versus benefits, no?
Morality emerges from a network of brain regions that work together. That said, some areas are especially important:
Key brain regions involved in moral behavior
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Ventromedial Prefrontal Cortex (vmPFC)
- Central for moral judgment
- Integrates emotion with reasoning
- Damage here can lead to knowing rules but not feeling their moral weight
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Orbitofrontal Cortex (OFC)
- Evaluates consequences and social appropriateness
- Helps inhibit harmful behavior
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Amygdala
- Processes emotional responses like fear, empathy, and aversion to harm
- Important for learning what actions feel āwrongā
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Anterior Cingulate Cortex (ACC)
- Detects conflict between moral rules and actions
- Involved in guilt and error awareness
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Temporoparietal Junction (TPJ)
- Critical for understanding othersā intentions (theory of mind)
- Influences judgments about blame and responsibility
Bottom line
The āmoral coreā is distributed, not localized. It arises from the interaction between:
- Emotional systems (amygdala, vmPFC)
- Social reasoning systems (TPJ)
- Executive control (prefrontal cortex)
This distributed setup makes sense evolutionarily: morality depends on emotion, social understanding, and decision-making, not a single brain module.
Yup. The thing is, the harm principle exists at the core of any moral framework. But the problem with theism and conservatism is how details around the things that a society considers right or wrong blur the main motivation to keep order and give people the chance to live good lives. People get distracted by "god said so" or "it has always been like this".
Yes, religion is like the police which is enforcing the laws and our moral core is the law itself.
Murder does harm people who kill btw, even if they enjoy it. I could enjoy drugs but that wouldn't change it destroys me. And....... the victim's family and people they know wouldn't be happy about it.
As I said earlier, the harm principle prioritizes reducing harm. So obviously the silly reason that murder makes some people feel good wouldn't be accepted under it.
I think you are wrong. I do consider taxation as a thing that isn't harmful, or at least it shouldn't be so in a system that taxes people who have smaller income less.
What about sociopath/psychopath? Are theirs functioning properly?
Brain damage, exceptions
Exceptions dont make the General
It harms normal people.
If you pay enough attention what to I said many people not all people.
Moreover psychopaths and sociopaths aren't harmed by killing people.
Brain damage wouldn't be an accurate description, I think. A fitting term would be a mental illness.
Yeah brain not functioning properly
Mental Illness
They need help
Not necessarily true/ moreover they are as many as 15% of the population
"Not necessarily true"
Source: Trust me bro
People with ASPD (psychopaths/sociopaths) can get things such as PTSD from violent actions. Their bad actions can actually and often do make their lives misrable. That's why high-functioning individuals with ASPD go and see therapists, not because they feel bad about people and want to stop hurting them, but to limit the damage that happens to themselves as a result of their disorder.
Hey I've been reading a lot of books on heinous criminals,Like serial killers.
And what I found consistently among the them is even if they feel some guilt for killing people the reward they got is more than the guilt they felt which in these case is the pleasures they got from the act
A person with proper brain growth will think twice before murduring someone else. Why? Because inside their head they know it is not right to do. Why? Because their brain is wired normally. Will they still murder? Maybe or maybe not.
Role of Religion? Sure it can be a demotivating factor for them to not kill because their spaghetti monster said not to kill. Will they still kill? Maybe or maybenot. Similarly role of law.
Inshort, religion acts as an extra barrier if the person truly believes and sticks to it, just like a law in a society.
From which book did you sourced this?
Not really necessary.
When normal people kill they do it because the benefits outweighs the potential harm, like facing the wrath of the law not because they'll suffer trauma that may or may not happen.
Btw if you don't believe in any God, why would you choose to do good it's not like by doing good you're guaranteed to get some rewards, sometimes doing even backfires on you
I can understand if you think that the benefits of taxation exceed the harms. But it's perverse to think that there is no harm involved. Tax revenue is confiscated; it is backed by the threat of force.
But taxation isn't really what's important. It's only an illustration. I'm just pointing out that the harm principle is really a very different thing from a utilitarian cost-benefit calculation. Prohibiting harm is one thing; trading off harms against the ensuing benefits is something very different. It now sounds as though you are actually talking about the latter.
So you are telling me you are not murdering another human being and not stealing everything from everyone is because your God said not to do so? š
You dont have an inner conscience that says it is not good to do such acts?
Stop being dishonest to prove a point
The harms outweighs the benefits.
I have a very limited time on earth, max 120 years even if I feel like killing someone for someone reason I have to control myself because I don't know what I'm going to encounter after my limited time on earth.
You said: "When normal people kill they do it because the benefits outweighs the potential harm"
I say: False in most cases. Their thinking and conscience gets clouded by other things such as anger, revenge, etc which makes them not think in a straight way.
Killing is bad, end of discussion
Belief that does not govern behavior is empty. For me, God is a constant moral reference point, and I try to restrain myself regardless of provocation. Faith that fails under pressure is not faith at all.
For who?
Even as per Islam, you have Fitrah- The inner moral compass.
I'm blind I act like I didn't see this
Do you want my glasses?
Stop pretending as if we are living in the ideal world
I'm good
ok
EVEN SO???
@winter echo
Killing is bad even if it would be "justified"
I dont think so
serious chat is really gay without nobu
He dead already?
eat free food
He's such a nice guy bought me a big mac yesterday
Yes but it's not like anyone is going to keep a watch on you.
You have free will.
you can do as you please, that's if you don't care about the consequences in the hereafter.
But you atheist don't have to worry about the consequences of the hereafter.
And it's not like doing good is going to guarantee good outcome for you, some times it even works against you.
No
whats the topic my gays
Is killing justified
No
If you needed God and religion to stop you from doing bad deeds, you were never a good person in the first place
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No
Define good
Fuh
Animals are different?
Halal
Naw those little creatures are mine to devour
Ik they can feel emotions and all that
Everything aside they are people who doesn't deserve to live in the same society as us.
It's cycle
Sorry to break it to you but Humans are part of the Animal Kingdom, biologically speaking
is it a slow or a fast cycle? Does it have gears? Is it manual or automatic?
Yes ik
Why are you using islamic term, didn't you abandon islam?
@abstract night stop eating animals they'll get eaten by other animals
To explain to a muslim, I have to use what you understand.
Seems like it. Not the brightest lots here
So killing humans is okay?
You lost the right to use that word.
Stick to Atheist terms
It depends on the kinds of humans
A rocket scientist when trying to explain jet propulsion to elementary school children will use the terms that they understand, they will not use Aerospace Engineering terms.
Why
Yes it serves as a deterence that prevents future occurrence
idc cuh those lowly creatures are mine to devour
How are they "lowly"?
In what sense?
Who's the elementary kid here?
You?
š
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You are the elementary kid and I am the rocket scientist
Seems like a reasonable response
What could possibly be justification
He has ability to look into the future
ahem ahem, he relies on a book
i don't eat unhygienic
Because it works, take bullying for example.
i will
shi idk most of them ig
so you make the animal take bath first and then eat it?
Yo nah twin dog will eat me before i eat him
no koalas in my region and cats are not edible unless you're chinese
Ishowspeed had a crashout when someone told him he was eating meow meow
The book that people like you were challenged to replicate for over fourteen hundreds years but till date you are no where near producing something even remotely similar.
not all the time
yo nah gotta keep ts private
Do you stand with peta
i hate pigs they look so ahh
i dont cuh
How is ability to replicate got to do with anything else?
Who decides and what are the parameters?
Like for taking selfies?
he must be suffering from malnourishment 
Prove it
Use a gps in phone
Use the google map
please be serious
yeah sure I'll use a gps in my phone
Free them dwarfs
No
ok
They were promised to them 3000 years ago
ok
Wait.... Earth's rotation speed is 1670 km/h, average commercial jet travels at like 800 km/h
wtf
Good try
No huzz no buzz ššš
I“m doing well thanks
Are you winning?
No we got absolutely destroyed
They even said "ggez" in chat
yeah itās over
Thats called doxing btw
And then I deledted it
Yeah, And I deleted my message as well.
But it was too late.
But how can you see the profil
I thought if I put kk before the link
It's that instagram shows your account if you don't delete the last part of the reel, and kk doesn't do shit.
And anyone can just remove kk to find bruh
Thanks good to know
I know thanks ā¤ļø
Kk is just to embed
The tracker is the igsh part
then you have embraced and compromised to the reality
it's not hard to realize only the way that you set yourself would only and probably influence you
you aren't someone in charge or hold tremendous power to change the world
that's why people are tend to follow the rule regardless how they will rule them
even if it's under the IDF
they don't want piece of crap but continue to live so they don't dare to resist
because they know, what was the result if they do that
it's a very clear message
Are you a party member?
of the Chinese govermement party
no
Why not
I thought everyone can join
Also I donāt want to join
Itās very hard to join the CCP
I might fit the qualification but it still takes 3-5 years
you say 1000 times a day your country and the politics is so good and now you say you dont wanna join
Also if you want to be a bureaucrat you have to complete a several set of exams
Which is way more difficult than gaokao exam
I donāt have to do that
why would I join an exam with all rural fucking guys who only know how to settle the quiz
They canāt survive doesnāt mean I canāt
Itās called personal interest
And it is indeed really hard to join the CCP
Itās more like a theory-loyalty test you are going to take, not going to test you how good your politics it is
they don't test you how politics really looks like but CCP want you to believe what politics should be
that's sucked up in total for me
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#shorts...
I just got this on my feed š
They're not doing anything wrong
Ye they simply evaporate
We'd all do the same thing if we were in power
No one likes dissent
That sounds like you, are you sure you aren“t a member there
Hi guys, I need advice. I want to take the IELTS exam in a year, but I'm lost and don't know what to do.
What language
english
Why are you lost
I don't know where to start, and I don't know of any specific courses to begin with. For example, is daily practice enough, such as reading and shadowing, or do I need a course?
I'm serious that I'm not a member of the Chinese Communist Party
I will register myself as a foreign agent if I was one
I haven't found anyone I can practice the language with, and even on the channels here, I can't easily join the conversation.
all for the United States of America šŗšø and State of Israel š®š±
God Bless the King
Can I join the CCP
#šļ½introduction youĀ“ll find someone in this channel
I sent a friend request but no one replied š«
I feel sorry for you keep trying
knowing I'm 100% loyal to the US government
I mean the current US administration
the Trump administration
You should probably read the files first buddy, . . .
Like, no cap, you REALLY should read them bro . . . Cause you do not wanna be within a mile radius of the shit in them.
Please dont talk
I“m still waiting for your "Gaza proves" you never showed me
any polish man??????!!!!!!!
@molten osprey he's potentially polish
Thereās a fucking ton of it I donāt know which one was actually useful or valuable
But all cases was around a bunch of congressman and bureaucrats created an island to commit sexual crime on children
CzeÄh (Iām not polish, but hi)
good to hear then
which city?
I know it is totally fucked okay
Iām from Ukraine originally, not sure it matters my city
But I was in Wroclaw, best city Iāve seen
u live in ua now?
Nope
I donāt want to be bombed
Good luck š
wlc!
You from Russia ?
Sounds pretty bad for you to live in Ukraine occupied areas
I donāt live in Ukraine rn
My city is near frontline and wasnāt occupied
Around 50 miles if youāre American or 80km as google says , shit got lucky anyway
Czesc , co tam
Why does it feel like being a guy comes with a lifetime subscription to stress, expectations, and nobody talking about feelings? Anyone else feel this?
Done with this society man
not at all
why do you listen to them
these claims are often taken out of context, because anyone can be subjected to these things
and people dont always have these things in their mind
who fuck cares stress and expectations lol
you subscribed to this enjoy it
you can always talk about your feeling with @feral river
Just dm him
you are not obligated to those expectations, Be self sufficient, You'd not be effected then. ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Hey I got some unexploded tomahawks for sale, they are fully intact, courtesy of uncle sam
That's The burden you have to carry as a man.
You better accept your fate and quit complaining, it's not like someone is coming to help you
That's quite irresponsible, are you telling him to abandon his responsibilities?
dawg where's the lawyer streams atš
Akari Ross ong
I read a lot about the condition online, it's an oversimplified message though.
Take the accounts in this article as examples. Individuals with ASPD don't necessarily have no emotions, the problem with the disorder is difficulty understanding the perspective of other people and empathizing with them.
https://www.geteducatn.com/2024/11/living-with-antisocial-personality.html

he got hairs?