🧠｜serious-chat

[slender coral]

Mohamed wasn't just a random man who lived in the past, the guy is claimed to be the perfect human by Muslims and Islamic values and standards are supposed to be timeless. The later views on Aisha's age didn't appear until the extent of harm of child marriage became more known.

[swift crest]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-williams-mrs-doubtfire-get-lost-gif-16430428

[slender coral]

The attraction to children is pathological, it's not just a "modren label". @thorny steeple

[swift crest]

Ok I'm prepared to be banned or muted.

It is what it is

[gloomy frost]

no it's forgive an forget.

[magic olive]

You’d get some quality time alone with nobu

[swift crest]

No.

[gloomy frost]

Whatever, It's fine, Even if you forget it won't matter.

[swift crest]

[swift crest]

[gloomy frost]

in the sea of chaos your actions have little to no meaning.

[swift crest]

[hoary glen]

Can mods be voted on? I think mods should be more diverse, so I'm voting for Nobu.

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-misono-arius-mod-discord-gif-13933025578271285252

[prisma cipher]

You will ban all Muslim

[fresh flower]

Anyone who disagrees with him*

[hoary glen]

No, he's not that kind of person. You'll only see a mod that argues with Muslims every day.

[prisma cipher]

You will be the first

[gloomy frost]

[plain ruin]

Abdul and Nobu both still muted damn

[slender coral]

Nah bro, won't happen.

I'd ban Oli that's for sure

[knotty niche]

@old totem https://biblestudentarchives.com/documents/1910_Russell-Hippodrome.pdf

[slender coral]

And he is not a Muslim, just an agnostic that larps as Muslim.

[cursive sphinx]

May the remaining 3% end fast this time

[knotty niche]

He had global Jewish meetings in 1879

There was also Mordecai Manuel Noah

In the 1840s

[cursive sphinx]

Charger has been plugged

[formal pilot]

tomorrow mythical Nubu will be unmuted by the grace of yahweh

[sweet wolf]

wow

[gloomy frost]

[formal pilot]

I met Nobu on muted chat, he is completely healthy and prosperous

[hoary glen]

Nobu is Cyber ​​Jesus, so the next ban on him should be limited to seven days.

Or at least seven days

[high rapids]

True

[gloomy frost]

Bro's not cyber jesus, Only thing he's relatively close to would be je(sus) because he's a just spamming bullshit all day.

[hoary glen]

I'm referring to the only similarity between him and Jesus.

[plain ruin]

Was he posting hadiths there too

[still dagger]

Hi guys I hope ya all are doing well ☺️

So silent

[high rapids]

Right now I'm declaring war on france

[gloomy frost]

[old totem]

It's long article. I need some time to read all of them.

[formal pilot]

no, but he was excited to get unmuted and share memes in serious chat

he also said khayah or something like that

[still dagger]

Count me in yo

Together we blast

😎

[cerulean pivot]

Khayah

[formal pilot]

He used exactly the same emoji

[slender coral]

😂

لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله

[formal pilot]

What this yahoodi pookie is typing using Ai

[thorny steeple]

Jesus loves you!

[iron dagger]

I never called for anyone to be killed. I said Israel's actions in declaring war against Hamas are justified on the basis of the actions of Hamas on Oct. 7, 2023. Those actions by Hamas did constitute genocidal actions and human rights violations against a peaceful civilian population across an international border. That is an act of war by any standards. The civilian population of Gaza, just like the civilian population of any state, country, para-state, territory, etc, does not have the power to determine whether its governing body goes to war or not. But if the governing body (in this case, Hamas) commits acts of genocide, murder, terrorism, and kidnapping, then the nation against which it has committed those actions has every right to declare war against them. And if the governing body (Hamas) is stupid enough to pick a fight with a nation who's military is far superior in technology, manpower, and firepower, and it brings war to its own civilian population, then the onus is on Hamas, not Israel. So, it's completely hypocritical if they go crying to world when they get hammered in response. Especially when all Hamas had to do to put a complete stop to the conflict at any point was release the hostages and permanently cease any militant actions against Israel. Further, if the actions of Israel are dominantly consistent with wartime ethics (which they are), and so long as the attacks are not committed en masse against a population based on their ethnicity, religion, or nationality (which they are not), and the invading military takes precautions to warn civilians to exit the areas of conflict so that they are out of harms way, then the invasion does not constitute a genocide. It's a war.

Now, in war, mistakes happen, collateral damage happens, and, sometimes, unfortunately, atrocities happen. And that is very tragic. None of that, however, delegitimizes the general justification for the war, or any war for that matter. If there are atrocities intentionally committed against innocents, then justice should be served against any and all individual parties directly involved. That's why we have international laws against war crimes. I'm not saying every action Israel performs on the ground is good. I'm saying the invasion and the war itself was perfectly justified. Unless you want to argue that war in general is unjustifiable. In which case, why are you even arguing this point?

[plush surge]

He should rename this room "The Israeli-Palestinian Debate"

lol

[gloomy frost]

Holy fucking yap

I get it bro, You will kill people for your family safety, admirable.

[plain ruin]

😂

[gloomy frost]

But to justify genocide, Meh.

[plain ruin]

"It's good when I do it to them, they can't do it to my people"

[gloomy frost]

Bro's in Denial.

[plain ruin]

@high rapids mentioned

[gloomy frost]

Anyways, it's alright, He ain't even such situations to begin with.

[plain ruin]

[gloomy frost]

He's just boosting of integrity when waters are calm.

We will see how moral he will be when doing the right thing truly hurts him.

[high rapids]

Didn't you read what I said earlier?

[gloomy frost]

No, I haven't.

[plain ruin]

Pretty sure he was making a pun

[high rapids]

Pun=Joke?

[plain ruin]

Yes, it's a type of joke, wordplay

[iron dagger]

Okay, what is the distinction between war and genocide? Do you even hold a distinction? Or are you trying to assert that there is no justification for any war?

[gloomy frost]

Personally, war is more about winning, while genocide is more about eradicating what they believe to be filthy.

[inland hedge]

Wars are fought between 2 or more parties, targetting eachother, not civilians

The distinction between war and genocide is pretty obvious, it seems ironical of you to be asking this even

[iron dagger]

Okay. My definition of a genocide is the intentional segregation and targeted killing in mass of a population merely on the basis of their race, ethnicity, religion, sect, or nationality. War is the declaration and armed engagement on the part of a state, government, or organization against another state, government or organization in retaliation for violations against its own sovereignty or the safety of its citizens, or (in the case of an unjustified war) for the purpose of conquest.

What Hamas did on October 7, 2023, was genocide.

what Israel did in response was war.

[inland hedge]

Though it was not was it

You can't be saying Israel is mainly targetting Hamas in Gaza

Excluding all intentional civilian casualties

[gloomy frost]

Hmm, Well, Sure your explanation of genocide and war is good, But what did israel do? I wanna hear it from you.

[iron dagger]

Well, some people here seem not to be able to tell the difference.

[inland hedge]

You needn't support Hamas to be aware of what Israel is doing

So if you're assuming that every concerned soul here is a Hamas supporter, you'd be wrong

What Hamas did was wrong yes, actions against civilians of a sovereign state

[iron dagger]

Israel declared war against Hamas and invaded Gaza with the express purpose of eliminating Hamas as an organization in retaliation for Hamas's violations against Israeli citizens and for the purpose of seeking the release of the hostages.

[rapid mica]

Hello

[inland hedge]

Though you also can't be saying what Israel is doing are just a bunch of actions enacted against the existence of Hamas entirely, and not to wipe Palestinians off of Gaza

[gloomy frost]

Then it is correct, If something hurted you first you have every right to retaliate.

[iron dagger]

If Israel really wanted to exterminate the entire population of Gaza, they could very easily do so. They aren't.

[inland hedge]

You also needn't be a 4 star general to comprehend what's war and what's not

Destroying entire neighbourhoods ain't no act against Hamas

[iron dagger]

Exactly my point. But some people here seem to think that constitutes a genocide. It does not.

[shell hemlock]

real

[inland hedge]

Though they've used ammunition filled with white phosphorus didn't they

Is that not an act of genocide?

[gloomy frost]

I don't know, Personally I don't really cared who killed who.

[iron dagger]

I don't need to be a 4 star general to comprehend war. What a laughable comment. You think common people of Ukraine don't comprehend war?

[inland hedge]

You're trying to focus on the distinction between War and Genocide while the main thing is what Israel is doing to Palestinians

Therefore is why I've sent that

Everyone knows it's a war if you're solely looking from a Hamas v IDF perspective

Though when you go further into the casualties

You realize it's far worse than that

Nothing explains babies being gassed to me

[inland hedge]

If you reckon that ain't no act of genocide, or if you acknowledge that to be fully lawful

Then you've something wrong w urself smh

[plain ruin]

"It's about the hostages, no no no you don't understand, those palestinians were arrested in the west bank without trial and official reasoning aren't hostages they're prisoners"

[inland hedge]

Your point?

[turbid dome]

Ok buddy free Palestine and try not to use the same debunked propaganda points based in half truths, outright lies, and casual racism.

[plain ruin]

I'm making fun of the people like the guy you're talking to
He claims its "about the hostages"
Without seeing the irony of his statement

[inland hedge]

Ah I see, thought you were referring to me lmao

I don't know what these guys are on about

Completely blinded by some metaphorical "facts"

[plain ruin]

That reminds me by the way, I'm going to quote Israeli sources and talk more about the irony, since @iron dagger didn't go through Hind Rajab's killing
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visited-qatar-begged-it-to-pay-hamas-liberman-says/
This was in 2020^

https://www.jpost.com/defense/yadlin-israel-would-be-happy-if-hamas-takes-over-gaza
https://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html
https://www.maariv.co.il/journalists/opinions/article-1008080
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-11/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-needed-a-strong-hamas/0000018b-1e9f-d47b-a7fb-bfdfd8f30000?v=1697032057551
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/4002043

[turbid dome]

Hamas sources

[high rapids]

Racism?

[plain ruin]

Explain why Israel funded a group against secularists
And why Christians are persecuted in Israel

[turbid dome]

Yes

[high rapids]

Where did he use racism?

[plain ruin]

Probably the most realest and honest message in the entire history of #🧠｜serious-chat

[high rapids]

I'm to lazy to read his new messages

[swift crest]

I didn't even know where to start

[turbid dome]

Its core to the entire “justifying the wiping out of another ethnicity just so my country can steal more land”

[inland hedge]

It's basically just an "its a war not a genocide" debate

[plain ruin]

I wouldn't say he explicitly used "racism" in his messages from a few hours ago until now
But he has been arguing for christian fundamentalism, exaggerating Hamas, defending the IDF, ignoring Hind Rajab, etc.

[inland hedge]

That's like saying germany back then was at war so their actions could be justified

I don't know what them j£££ws be drinking who claim that shit

[turbid dome]

I mean, Israeli lives are held up as more important than Palestinians in his messages

[frozen cape]

it's been ongoing for almost an entire lifetime

[inland hedge]

(censoring it in case y'all got that automodded)

[plain ruin]

Jews isn't auto-modded, as it refers to a religion/race

[swift crest]

I wanna understand better, but I can't, well I can if I want
You get my point right?

[inland hedge]

Yuh no worries

I mean it's a matter of sensibility

It's illogical to claim what happens in Gaza is just a war between 2 parties

[plain ruin]

That's there, but then there's the "Christian Palestinians are aight" thing too, so it's kinda shaky for me right now
Regardless, I was referring to explicit race stuff, but there are racial connotations when you support a system where one race is above another

[shell hemlock]

[shell hemlock]

yeah that’s what he is implying

i talked about the comparison between the death tolls for palestinians and israelis, as well as how harsh the crimes were

israel is factually more powerful than palestine, one hit from israel on palestine is like the battle between one punch man and an ant

[turbid dome]

For me I think having a preferred group in the group doesn’t really change it. Besides, idgaf what he says when he’s busy doing genocide propaganda for free, he in some way supports genocide so if he says a few words idgaf

[plain ruin]

Btw guys, his username... translates to this

[inland hedge]

They argue that Hamas shouldn't have started this all in the first place then

Completely ignoring the fact that what/who Israel is targetting mainly

[turbid dome]

Lmao

[plain ruin]

Documenting this alongside for reference
1134136468030357647

[inland hedge]

Also ignoring the illegal occupation by the Israeli side in the first plaace.. though I reckon thats a convo some people here aint ready for yet

[turbid dome]

Christian councillor with jew tag is a thing 😭

[inland hedge]

He could be an evangelist

[plain ruin]

Hamas is irrelevant in the context of anything
Israeli military commanders have admitted that the Palestinians wanted a secular government, and that they supported Hamas's creation to divert support away from secularism, so that Gaza could be targeted

Refer to
#🧠｜serious-chat message

[plain ruin]

He claims to be a Messianic Jewish Rabbi

But uses Old Testament justifications

[turbid dome]

He has a Christian councillor role 😭

[plain ruin]

Messianics believe that Jesus is the Messiah, they have a "Jewish Conservative" form of Christianity, where they observe Jewish feasts/laws etc.

[inland hedge]

And it's the most illogical view ever considering how Jews think of Jesus

They'd curse Muslims for believing Jesus was a prophet lmao

[plain ruin]

"Messianic Judaism" originates from Protestant Christianity btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism @turbid dome

[shell hemlock]

history started before oct 7th 🇵🇸

[fresh plover]

That was said by a very patient doctor, I forgot his name

[shell hemlock]

must be mustafa

[turbid dome]

Ahhh makes sense I guess

[frozen cape]

I said it earlier, also I'm not a doctor

[fresh plover]

https://youtu.be/D-5cuqyRM9w?si=3IoIN8Nykrc1zEzr

[shell hemlock]

lie, aren’t you a male gynecologist/j

[frozen cape]

not yet

[shell hemlock]

ohhhh you mean an actual doctor in the real world

[fresh plover]

Yeah. I loved the speech

[shell hemlock]

🌚

[fresh plover]

He was so calm, and factual

All eyes on gaza

[frozen cape]

ok fine i'm watch it

[shell hemlock]

why is nelson mandela in here

[fresh flower]

Damn yall still debating the excommunicated guy?💀

[plain ruin]

That's MrSheen btw

[tardy jay]

ugh. i have a friend in venezuela that is doing okay. i'm scared because SOMEONE might pull the trigger on the country.

[shell hemlock]

ohhhhhh

[slender coral]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

[shell hemlock]

i wanted to set my pfp as mamdani but @rain lava said i have to be trump i was like nah

[plain ruin]

Debating? He stopped replying to me since I pulled up with the Hind Rajab receipts

[crisp garden]

This guy is STILL going 🙏🏻

[swift crest]

Nah uh uh

[fresh plover]

Yeah. Watch it

[plain ruin]

hi nessah

[shell hemlock]

who made him mod ? like who handles the mod apps for vc

[fresh flower]

Did bro even address the verses?😭😭😭

[swift crest]

Expected

[fresh plover]

I'll follow him on Instagram

[rain lava]

Yes , just paint yourself orange and put a blonde wig

[crisp garden]

Hallo shawn

[rain lava]

[plain ruin]

I have no idea, trying to do something about it, someone like this shouldn't be represnting Christianity

[swift crest]

Hey

[fresh flower]

Why so many casuals in my channel

[shell hemlock]

i also have to lean my body forward a lil bit when i stand for the 99.9% accuracy

[fresh plover]

Beware of Bill clinton

[frozen cape]

yeah i'm good, not gonna finish it

[swift crest]

DAMNNNN
Nice.

[fresh plover]

Bruh, you guys' attention span sucks.

[shell hemlock]

he was talking with sanna and me earlier 🌚 it’s been 5 hrs and i just saw that he was still going

[fresh plover]

I'm so cold, I'm freezing

[frozen cape]

no, i'm familiar with the war, heard it all before

[fresh plover]

Okay

[plain ruin]

Romans 16:19? No
I pulled up with satellite images showing the tanks and hind rajab's car and the ambulance

Just a "I'll look into it" few hours ago, he's been avoiding me since 💀
I decided to compile israeli sources on how Hamas was created by israel too now, I'm going to keep that saved

[fresh plover]

https://youtu.be/TnzEdPahHZw?si=ooL5Ps7yiGz2EzAo

[plain ruin]

this reminds me of when i met my friend in al-andalous and he said "hallo mr. shawn"

[frozen cape]

i'm one of those who cbf

[crisp garden]

Lmaoo
Al andalous mall ?

[shell hemlock]

BEN AND JERRYSSSS AYEEE

[fresh flower]

Bro's rich

[slender coral]

I talked to that fella a few times before, and based on my experience with him I don't think he is malicious. I think showing him sources and stuff could change his mind.

[shell hemlock]

oh…

[shell hemlock]

bro someone bought this for me cuz i told them i was poor and they felt bad

[plain ruin]

He's going only with people who are talking without citing things/people without complete knowledge about what's happening from public sources
Doesn't have the ability to counter people who do

[shell hemlock]

does ben and jerry’s support palestine

[swift crest]

You can see?

[fresh plover]

I didn't get what you mean

[frozen cape]

cbf - couldn't be f'd

[swift crest]

Lol

[tiny crag]

Hi

[swift crest]

I see that you see.

[plain ruin]

no just andalous, we were then heading back to avenues from there
to this day, i dont know why i went to fahaheel, andalous, and salmiya all in one day, thinking that would be a good idea

[shell hemlock]

whaattttt ayeee ben and jerry’s clock ittt

[crisp garden]

Damn that mustve took yall a long time lol
but experience is good

[crisp garden]

[plain ruin]

the experience is worth the 2KD or so I spent ngl
saw lots of places i didnt even know existed

[honest flame]

Hello everyone

[slender coral]

Hello

[swift crest]

Hehehehehehhehehehehehehehhehehehehehhehe

[swift crest]

Excuse me
This isn't a chat for normal people
There are non-human beings here, I suggest you be vary of them.

[sour basin]

Hi

[shell hemlock]

i am actually poor myself, no joke i can’t even afford ice cream

i am financially irresponsible

AYE WHO IS THAT AYE THATS MY NAME

[thorny steeple]

are you administrator here or something?

[plain ruin]

Lily and LilyHru😨

[swift crest]

Relatable

[shell hemlock]

[shell hemlock]

i got so confused earlier

i forgot i’m not the only one named lily

[crisp garden]

sounds like a good experience to me

[plain ruin]

She isn't but it's still a correct statement

#🧠｜serious-chat is very hate-filled usually
Though most of the worser individuals are muted right now

[swift crest]

I didn't know they were 2 lilies

[shell hemlock]

there are three now

[swift crest]

Noice.

[crisp garden]

u r the only known lily in eng hub

[shell hemlock]

some age regressor named blue lilly (she was very rude to me but tbh i was rude to her first, unintentionally)

[plain ruin]

Fr
Might do it again, terrible timing for visa prices to go up though

[thorny steeple]

still....non human strong word dont ya think

[shell hemlock]

i don’t wanna be popular on discord bruh i wanna touch grass 💔💔💔💔

[swift crest]

I love that you agree first
THAT'S MY GURL

[shell hemlock]

i love the pfp i love lily flowers so much

[plain ruin]

It's apt for how sickening some of the people here can be, they dehumanise people, they can only be labelled as "non-human" themselves

[swift crest]

Hmmm

[slender coral]

Yea, terrible choice for a description. @swift crest

[shell hemlock]

yeah she talks in third person like “lily doesn’t like this, lily doesn’t like that” and i asked her why she is talking like 3 years old (out of curiosity)

[thorny steeple]

thank youuu

[swift crest]

STAPPPPPPPPPPP

[slender coral]

No fr girl, that was bad.

[swift crest]

OH MY GOOODNESS

[thorny steeple]

you are also here you see....you can also be considered as one

[plain ruin]

I think Nobu and I think that it's right ngl

[slender coral]

Jokes aside, it's a very bad term to get used to using.

[shell hemlock]

she got offended and told me to mind my own business 💔 i agree with her

[thorny steeple]

for the first time...u said something in my favour😂

[plain ruin]

I don't justify killing people though
It does have some nuance

[swift crest]

Include me!!!

[slender coral]

[shell hemlock]

i cannot actually i tried but i just started annoying people irl so i have to do it here

[plain ruin]

Yes, at the end of the day it's satirical and it's to exaggerate a little bit as well

[thorny steeple]

depends on which context you are saying it

[shell hemlock]

@thorny steeple i haunt thy

[slender coral]

Have you witnessed Nobu?

[swift crest]

Enlighten me.

[shell hemlock]

i don’t mind my friends’ business either

(i do mind)

[swift crest]

I WANNA EVAPORATEEE

NGL

[plain ruin]

I cannot do that in good faith
Nobu is as annoying as having a ton of mosquitoes, flies and bedbugs in your room, except they can all laugh at you
" Khyah"

[shell hemlock]

@plain ruin have you ever considered going halal mode

i mean in dietary choices

[swift crest]

I see.

I see.

I see.

I see.

[slender coral]

A Christian Nepali guy, for some reason very focused on Islam and that could be fine on its own. He keeps posting the same exact posts here every now and then, and when people try to have a conversation with him he speaks in an insufferable way. He also has a history of misogynist statements and weird posts on Twitter about sexualized hijabis.

I talk to her in dms and let me tell you, if that's the case it would be the biggest plot twist ever.

[swift crest]

Yes I am
Any doubt?

[plain ruin]

Of course, there are some right contexts
But the wrong contexts. There are people who jusitfy murder, etc. in the wrong contexts. These people are "metaphorically" non human, because of their behaviour/anti-social values

A key difference, is that these same people also justify the killing of other groups of people, and say that some races of people involved "demons mixing with humans", and that they are literally non-human

[slender coral]

Nobu is a guy, Tiol claims she is a girl.

Are you a girl? @swift crest

[swift crest]

Tf you mean I CLAIM?

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-funny-cat-cat-sleeping-lazy-cat-gif-3663060523172870024

[ancient silo]

🥀 yooo gng

[plain ruin]

In terms of diet, generally I already do
I cannot tolerate pork, alcohol isn't something I can have with my ADHD meds
I've had Halal meat for a lot my life, and if I'm in a new city where meat might be low quality/questionable, sometimes I do look for halal certified meat, just because of that little bit of extra closeness it has to the meat I've grown up with, gives me mental security

[ancient silo]

i do not care if the meat im eating is halal or not

[thorny steeple]

thats absurd.. i dont understand why do people have to go to such extremes in order to interrupt the rather calm and yet joyful life of other people on the basis of some nonsensical theories they have made up in their mind with no sensible ethical proof ...and for what ? their so called belief

[slender coral]

What's your gender, sex assigned at birth, date of birth, location of birth, full name, height, weight, phone number, bank account number, and card CVC?
We just wanna verify you aren't Nobu.

[plain ruin]

Yup, sadly

[ancient silo]

did not visit any hospital bro , but today i got my first own phone number

it was for 5 dollars

yeah

it is easy

[plain ruin]

It does matter when you move from the Khaleej to India (or a new city in India), when you get diarrhea and need meat as much as I do, you're going to try to get things as close as they can get to where you've grown up (Kuwait for me)

[ancient silo]

i want to move the US

[plain ruin]

Doesn't mean I actively eat halal meat all the time, just that it can help mentally, sometimes

[ancient silo]

understood

[swift crest]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-girl-middle-finger-mood-screw-you-leave-me-alone-gif-10174031

I am a human being.

[shell hemlock]

good good good, i lowkey advise my non-muslim friends to go on a halal dietary choice now bc of the many health benefits that comes with it, i used to be skeptical when i wasn’t a revert bc like you know i used to like eating pepperonis and yk those bacon with eggs but after i learned the health benefits on avoiding those things i encourage even non-muslims to go on a halal diet and see for themselves how much they can improve their health for the long term

[ancient silo]

should i got to a bank to get a master card ??

[slender coral]

Shocking

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/triples-seoyeon-credit-card-credit-card-scam-discord-gif-12398926643519365839

[plain ruin]

Too much of a hassle in every way for me imo

[thorny steeple]

but again you cant judge a whole lot here because of some dumbass people ...i agree there might have been an argument/debate on such thing and people were like you stated but not all the people are like that ...you dont have to force that one single person character judment on the whole group.. ...everyone has the right to explore and create opinions

[ancient silo]

okay

they did not open the diversity visa yet xd

[plain ruin]

I still have beef bacon occassionally, the calories are pretty high though, sometimes I need em
At the end of the day, the familiarity and safety agrees with my gut

[shell hemlock]

@plain ruin btw i asked that out of nowhere bc i realized that i’m now subconsciously picking out things that are halal certified* without having to look it up bc i used to pick out things just by guessing

[gloomy frost]

It feels amazing to be correct, That's the exact reason why they do it.

[shell hemlock]

this logo

[plain ruin]

Yes, most banks in the khaleeji region would be able to get you an account with a debit card (visa/mastercard) between the ages of 16-21 (without applying with your parents)
Depends on the local laws

[thorny steeple]

well everyone does

[plain ruin]

It's not some, you caught this chat at the best possible time since a lot of the weirdos are offline or muted

Otherwise they take up 70% of the messages here

[ancient silo]

no , my mom went to ask and they said that you should be over 18 to make a bank account

i might go with a repaid card though

i do not wnna pay fees

[plain ruin]

That wouldn't matter to me as much as the debt and cultural aspects would

[shell hemlock]

if they have their own vegan organization… it’s possible, i mean some cosmetic products are like peta certified or something

[thorny steeple]

i have been online here before as well

[swift crest]

Hello

[gloomy frost]

Not really, Only egoistic people do, If something threaten their ideology or makes them seem untrustworthy, They jump out to criticize and correct them on delusions they believe.

[plain ruin]

Not a lot of reasons. If you screwed with the wrong person intentionally/unintentionally, you may have to though

Can only happen if you're pretty dumb
Can't happen if you're neurotic about everything though

[daring dust]

Hello

[formal pilot]

[daring dust]

eveyone

[swift crest]

You're vegan?

[swift crest]

Hi

[slender coral]

Hi

[ancient silo]

me too , going to america will make me poorer than staying in my country , but i hate the culture here

[daring dust]

what is time in your contry guys?

[plain ruin]

for me idk bro
everything i grew up with was halal by default;
if i'm in india i mostly find out what's good through trial and error, the halal part can play a role, generally there's more guarantee

[swift crest]

Time to sleep

[slender coral]

Where are you from?

[plain ruin]

it depends, in Kuwait, I opened a Shabaab account at 16 in one bank, another bank said you must be 18
Maybe check the other banks, it's possible maybe

[thorny steeple]

ok thats the insecure and paranoid people ....but normal people as well loves to be right to get appreciation ..but that doesnt mean they dont accept shortcomings

[daring dust]

yes it is time to sleep

[swift crest]

Bro you're in Korea right?

[ancient silo]

are you from an arabic origin and moved to a european country ???

[swift crest]

Here you can only have a "child" account when you're 16

[ancient silo]

same in iraq

[swift crest]

That is the most useless thing ever.

[daring dust]

what is the most cringe trend on TikTok, as you think?

[plain ruin]

Fair answer
Europe is generally fine as long as you keep away from the far-right and far-left both, and don't talk about religion/politics

Otherwise you'd have to look for khaleeji options and also remain lowkey

[ancient silo]

yeah

[shell hemlock]

no, i’m cambodian but we have a lot of muslims now i guess and we don’t rlly see traces of pig based products anymore, but since pork is generally cheaper most lower income household still use it

[swift crest]

I thought most of them are cringe, they aren't?

[ancient silo]

i do not want to go to europe , i want to go to america xd

[gloomy frost]

Yeah, It is infact most people already lost when they choose a side, Like religious or atheist, The second they choose they become incapable of seeing the other spectrum and loses, and become egoistic, tbh even what you call normal people barely accept their own shortcomings and improve, Only a few does.

[swift crest]

Well
Who cares if you're getting paid? 😭

[ancient silo]

i see

[shell hemlock]

goody good good

[daring dust]

Yes, exactly, it wastes a lot of time for nothing but some are funny

[plain ruin]

Saying the wrong thing to the wrong person with a load of power, it's not impossible yet in the UAE that you can get some old angry man triggered over valid criticism

But it's rarer nowadays than before for such a guy to do anything to you physically/economically/visa wise

[shell hemlock]

i think most halal based products were produced in turkiye ???? idk just assumption

[slender coral]

Why do you guys talk about food here instead of #🍧｜food?

[daring dust]

Do you guys talking about Halal food

[swift crest]

Depends on the kind of job you pick
If it's more business and all
I would say europe, it has better stuff and all
Same with america

[shell hemlock]

i asked chatgpt and turkiye produced most stuff in halal version

[slender coral]

That channel needs more activity.

[plain ruin]

No💀
I was born in Kuwait, an arab country, south of iraq, east of saudi arabia

[ancient silo]

i want to be a programmer and move to the ai field

[swift crest]

That's a good one.

[shell hemlock]

you guys have the funny arab accent that i love 😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

It's the same, a child account, but the child account I had in Kuwait was a proper usage account compared to the child accounts in India

[shell hemlock]

STOP ITTTTT

[slender coral]

It's not about that. Activity is very low in there, and when food mentioned for some reason I find it here.

[ancient silo]

i mean , it is very clear

[gritty echo]

Whenever I look at this chat , every time there are religion

[shell hemlock]

you guys always say that khyah everytime i’m here 💔💔💔💔 my blood boils when i read that

[ancient silo]

what is khyah ?

[swift crest]

I think the bay area would be great for those typa stuff
Sf side
You'll meet a lot of people with startups and all
You could try going to hackathons..

[plain ruin]

I've not talked to arabs for almost a year now, my accent shifted back to "rich indian"

[shell hemlock]

he sends a hadith that says “ex muslim hadith of the day”

[plain ruin]

he says "allah made halal for me"

[gritty echo]

Be Muslim = Oh maşallah
Be Christian = Christ be with you
Be Jew = I need money

[ancient silo]

yeha also || there is not big ai centers in iraq||

[thorny steeple]

well honestly now if i say it from my perspective ..i dont believe it.cuz as a person whose opinions were mostly ignored before...i try to hear out each sides every pov ...yeah maybe you are right about most of the people but again those few exist too ...that alone makes a difference

[shell hemlock]

an inside joke 😭

[gritty echo]

Be Buddhist = I'm as lazy as working

[ancient silo]

okay

[slender coral]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

You even saved it

[shell hemlock]

SEEEEE I REMEMBER IT IM SO SAD THAT I REMEMBER THAT

WORD FOR WORD TOO😭😭😭😭😭

[slender coral]

Not really word for word but ok

[swift crest]

Child accounts in india are stupid
Some banks have this stupid tech where you can only have a fixed amount in your bank, it happens a lot with icici

[plain ruin]

Kuwait doesn't/hasn't competed with the other countries in the region since they got liberated from Saddam's invasion

I don't know what sort of rivalry there would be, Kuwait seems to be the "richest" but they're also the biggest/have the most oil
But in terms of a lot of things, Kuwait is behind the others, the ruling family repeatedly dissolves the parliament before they can pass anything, it's hopeless

[plain ruin]

You mean an upper limit?

[shell hemlock]

i remember that kuwaitis have the accent that sound like they are underwater like gurgling mouthwash and i find that so satisfying 😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

WHEEZING😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

i know what you mean😭

Kuwaitis have the deepest accents in the gulf, probably

[gloomy frost]

Right, The thing is, the second people choose a side they become rigid, incapable of seeing anything beyond what they believe, though it is in human nature to seek comfort within those ideologies, But what's the point of all this intelligence and consciousness if you can't even ask why without them getting annoyed, Welp, Tbh those few people barely exists anymore, I am barely seeing anyone accepting just excusing everything and blaming others or luck or god.

[ancient silo]

always make sure to hate people who do not follow islam and jihad against them

[swift crest]

I think so
I don't remember the name
Even if you have 15k in your children's bank account, you can't use all of it...

[plain ruin]

Maybe you're referring to minimum balance then

If you go below say, 10K, you'll be charged a fee

[swift crest]

Nah uh uh

[plain ruin]

Look it up and explain it maybe

[shell hemlock]

jihadi

[slender coral]

I was distracted by the Nobu jokes but damn, that verse is hateful.

[ancient silo]

i do not mind anyone who just live by his own without annoying others

[shell hemlock]

i like calling muslims that and watching them deny it

[plain ruin]

We should all say "Ahlan wa Sahlan ya jihadi akbar, sayid nobu" when he comes back

[thorny steeple]

i know right..still i wont deny there were times i was also like that clinging onto being right always...but then you lose the intellect of differentiating between whats actually right or wrong...ig that made a change...questioning myself and then others

[slender coral]

Write it in Nepali.

[shell hemlock]

isn’t he actually hindu or something (can’t even remember the lore)

[ancient silo]

why everything is banned in this server , i can't say anything

[plain ruin]

I actually 100% confirmed he's christian later
The idol post he liked was just because of the actor

[slender coral]

non-Orthodox in what sense? You mean not following the Orthodox church or not being as the texts tend to want them be or what?

[shell hemlock]

actually christian ??? plot twist

[plain ruin]

Yes

"Christian" but his faith is derived from american-reformed christian movements

[slender coral]

Yea, I know about this. Very disturbing. I'm an Arab, an Egyptian, and while I didn't follow the events in Iraq thoroughly, I found a lot of disturbing videos, social media posts, comments from there. If you are in Iraq, I wish you be able to leave soon and live in a better place.

[gloomy frost]

It's fine though, It's in human nature to cling to ideals, Cling to past, cling to things that time will erase, But if one truly seeks to grow and be "better" they must question it, question it all, Even their beliefs, Even their right or wrong even reality, Uncomfortable yes, Isolation yes, Is it worth it? No, But should one use something that question itself like universe questioning itself? Yes.

[shell hemlock]

i assume he follow those white supremacists church teachings or somewhat ???

now that i think about it it’s oddly familiar

[plain ruin]

substitute a letter with a symbol, don't use all the letters with a symbol in between

[ancient silo]

thank you , im planning to do that

[slender coral]

I wonder how their behavior contradict Christian texts?

[plain ruin]

Not the true white supremacists, but you can very much say that a lot of white supremacists also belong to the same sects.

[shell hemlock]

crazy to think that even they have a sect

[thorny steeple]

i am flattt....how come you are so similar

[slender coral]

@high ravenwhat texts would paint some such as Nobu bad?

[plain ruin]

Wait till you read up about the latter day saints

[turbid dome]

Fun fact, they believe the US constitution is divinely inspired.

[plain ruin]

They have "temples" in India

I had to rub my eyes

[turbid dome]

I swear if I was the CIA i would make that a religion

[turbid dome]

we have a temple here for them

[thorny steeple]

FGS Do you want to marry thee Vold man?

[turbid dome]

total nutjobs

[median sphinx]

hey guys

[gloomy frost]

Flat? And Every being with some form of intelligence can understand what I was saying so meh, They lack brain cells then.

[plain ruin]

They have 3 within a few kilometers

[turbid dome]

wtf

[shell hemlock]

LOL it’s such a funny pic wait i have more

[median sphinx]

what r you guys up yo

[turbid dome]

we call it the mexican restaurant because it looks like one

[fallow shard]

[median sphinx]

to*

[slender coral]

[thorny steeple]

flattered** yeah they can understand what you said but applying it to them nah interpreting it right ..nahh

[plain ruin]

HAHAHAH
They're probably less than 20km apart, but probably 30-90 minutes apart by driving, due to traffic
The americans managed to fund these

[turbid dome]

tell me it's not the same as this generic mexican restaurant

[turbid dome]

damn americans

[slender coral]

People are talking about multiple topics right now. What would you like to discuss?

[gloomy frost]

I mean, A being should be neutral to actually understand something rather than just yap and try to find correct in their own ideology and fails in seconds when asked why's.

[slender coral]

Ephesians 4:31

[gloomy frost]

Whatever, good night.

[median sphinx]

oh i would love to talk abt anything u guys are talking about rn

[slender coral]

Bible bot isn't Bibling

[swift crest]

?Ephesians4:31

[plain ruin]

Nvm they're just hogging people

[shell hemlock]

the other day n*bu used the islambot 🗿

[thorny steeple]

i get itt

[shell hemlock]

and someone else use the islambot as well

[swift crest]

Nvm
It's not working

[slender coral]

So, you have my conversation with Sanna. She claims that bad behavior that we've seen here from some Christians, which include Homophobia, slander, discrimination, vengefulness and more, contradict the Bible.
I'm not very well-informed on Christianity so I'm trying to understand why she thinks so.

[turbid dome]

I know in it's inception it wasn't a CIA thing but my personal conspiracy theory is any religion that says the US is part of the holy land and the US constitution is divinely inspired would be the best possible religion for the US State Department to spread to promote american exceptionalism among foreigners

[plain ruin]

this one looks like that one church in the hood in GTA V

[shell hemlock]

i don’t remember but i think some mods could still use it here or maybe vc room mods

[plain ruin]

is this India or the US

[turbid dome]

Could be either based off that photo lmao

[swift crest]

India ig

[north sapphire]

Surah Al-Baqara (The Cow)

2:120

And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.

Translation: Saheeh International | Medinan

[gloomy frost]

go to sleep girl, It's late.

[plain ruin]

(it's actually india)

[slender coral]

It works

Bible bot doesn't

Discrimination 😭

[swift crest]

See I told ya

[thorny steeple]

where r u from?

[shell hemlock]

both should be removed 😭

[turbid dome]

unknown duck lurking

[gloomy frost]

I am the same guy talking about existencial dread that day, I am from india btw.

[fallow shard]

No

Shut up

[turbid dome]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

huh? i dont remember sorry...

[swift crest]

India really is the most populated country.

[gloomy frost]

you were calling me twisted remember?

[uncut tiger]

Hello I'm Diaz and I'm straight and white.

[plain ruin]

That's why I thought it would take 30-90 minutes between the 2 churches

[gloomy frost]

Lies.

[plain ruin]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[fallow shard]

I spent 1.5h learning basic drug regulations

[median sphinx]

oh that’s actually super interesting! i’m not a christian i actually identify myself as agnostic, but i think it mainly depends on how a person interprets the bible and also on their moral values.. for example, some ppl believe in god, but don’t take some of the things written on the bible (especially the old testament) litterally, because they believe faith is more important than following what the scripture says

[swift crest]

Fair enough 🤣

[turbid dome]

Are you ready to do drugs now?

[slender coral]

My eyes have never seen statements more wrong than those.

[uncut tiger]

Hello I'm Diaz and I'm straight and white.

[fallow shard]

No, I've to do some other shi too but I'm lazy asf

[slender coral]

And I'm Devil, Muslim and Asian.

[turbid dome]

oh, that's fun

[slender coral]

Nice to meet you straight white @uncut tiger

[uncut tiger]

Hello I'm Diaz and I'm straight and white.

[fallow shard]

Need to learn chromosomes like I didn't do that in highschool already

[slender coral]

Bro is lagging 😭

[thorny steeple]

now i dooo...you are the maniac guy no offense

[turbid dome]

You learned chromosomes in high school? We just learned that they exist and didn't go much further than that 😭

[plain ruin]

atleast you have sex ed

[fallow shard]

I learned DNA parts and chromosomes. Uhh then every basic cell like blood and white cells and their parta

[turbid dome]

we don't actually. Abstinence only sex ed

[plain ruin]

we dont even have that

[fallow shard]

Jesus Christ y'all school system sucks

[turbid dome]

oh weird.

[uncut tiger]

I learnt it from Netflix's sex education

[fallow shard]

No wonder Americans are welp...

[plain ruin]

i'll explain
"here's a diagram of a penis, he's a diagram of a vagina"
"you should use condoms, otherwise you'll get STDs"

end of the 5 page chapter

you must memorize all of these 5 pages to do well in the exam!

[slender coral]

Bad school systems isn't exclusive to Americans 😭

[uncut tiger]

no we don't discuss condoms here in pk shush

[fallow shard]

It's basic knowledge

[turbid dome]

btw abstinence only sex ed is "these diseases exist, don't have sex until you're married or you'll get them. stuff exists to prevent it but we don't need to talk about that."

[fallow shard]

I'm starting to get why Finlands education system is praised

[plain ruin]

oh nvm we're basically the same then

[turbid dome]

Never learned any of that besides blood cells

[fallow shard]

We learnt every disease in 7th grade and relearned everything in highschool again just as reminder

[plain ruin]

there's nothing of substance to learn in these systems, that can actually help anyone

its just "you guys know sex exists, here's 2 diagrams"

"thanks for coming to my class"

[uncut tiger]

what about the stuff they show on netflix is it fake

[fallow shard]

We had 30 page chapter for sex ed

[turbid dome]

Twice? lol. We got a puberty video in 5th or 6th grade (gender segregated) and that's it

[turbid dome]

pretty much, but no diagrams of sex

[uncut tiger]

sex education is a UK based show tho

[plain ruin]

oh yeah there was a bit about puberty too
no videos, ever

[turbid dome]

idk what's on netflix

[swift crest]

Anyways
It was fun talking to you'll
Imma go sleep
Bye bye.

[turbid dome]

wow

[fallow shard]

Why tf was it segregated

[plain ruin]

they weren't diagrams about sex
just the cross-section organs of a male and a female😭

[plain ruin]

have a good night!

[uncut tiger]

most kids in high school arent virgins and hook up in libraries, alleys, corridors

[slender coral]

I remember in 2nd middle school year me and my classmates were losing our minds over the male and female genitals diagrams in our biology book.

[turbid dome]

Oh the video on puberty wasn't anything special. It's just like "you may get facial hair, you can shave it" "you may get wet dreams, don't freak out". Nothing useful

[fallow shard]

This is why sex ed is important

[uncut tiger]

Why were you expecting diagrams about SEX?

[turbid dome]

to decrease learning

[plain ruin]

he said diagrams of sex, i elaborated that we had organ diagrams

[turbid dome]

oh, yeah we didn't get those either

[fallow shard]

3rd world countries istg

[fresh flower]

"Diagrams"

We had to taste condoms

[formal pilot]

Yeah, they made female reproductive organs look like batman

[slender coral]

Up until 3rd middle school year, I was 15 years old, I thought that newborns come through the rectum of the woman.

[uncut tiger]

yeah fokn hell

[turbid dome]

it's why we had to have a daycare for the pregnant teens in high school 😭

[plain ruin]

we had "Both genders get hair"
"People get dreams sometimes"
"Males develop deeper voices, females develop shriller voices"
etc.

they didn't even tell us not to freak out

[turbid dome]

damn it mentioned that there's more than boys

[fresh flower]

That's it?💀

[plain ruin]

it was like an objective talk

[fallow shard]

I'm losing my hope

[fresh flower]

We had to see photos bro💀

Whole class was screaming in shock

[turbid dome]

imagine having an education

[fallow shard]

I had to put condom on a stick

[plain ruin]

yes bro
the girls freaked out when they saw diagrams of a cross section of a penis

[turbid dome]

did you at least learn stuff for both boys and girls?

[fresh flower]

We did that too😭

[slender coral]

The place where you are at almost sounds like a third world country 😭

[plain ruin]

yes
but it was very generic

[shy hazel]

nah textbook diagrams are bad

[uncut tiger]

yeah that was also in that show

[fallow shard]

And that's like only good thing😭

[plain ruin]

"Women get what is known as the menstrual cycle"

[fallow shard]

I had no issues w it

[turbid dome]

Arkansas is competitive like that and Christian fundamentalism means parents would freak out if the kids learned anything

[turbid dome]

never even heard that much

[plain ruin]

yes
we had a different diagram that the teacher used a projector for

[fresh flower]

Most of our sex-ed wasn't even by the teachers, it was from a non-profit organisation

[turbid dome]

People would freak out if their kids were shown how condoms work here

[plain ruin]

😭

[turbid dome]

That was probably the girl's video 😭

[fallow shard]

I did that in 7th grade

[shy hazel]

i heard some schools even skip it cause of students behaviour

[formal pilot]

People often use condoms to get high btw

[slender coral]

hushhh, someone could cry if you say religion is responsible.

[shy hazel]

ppl can get high on anything

[fresh flower]

Not here, pretty sure it's mandatory by law

[turbid dome]

crazy to me

[turbid dome]

what

[fallow shard]

Should've had tasting test just for the greater good

[shy hazel]

they can get high from sniffing nail paint

[fallow shard]

[turbid dome]

Well we're the most conservative on abortion in the country, best at hitting kids in school, one of the most conservative states in general 😭

[formal pilot]

Condom addiction: Increasing demands for condoms to get 'high'; Know the health hazards - Times of India https://share.google/9HAkW1BQkqNqbV8Tg

[fresh flower]

I'd move there

[slender coral]

I think that is the case. I personally judge the religion based on what the texts say, not what their 21 century reinterpretation says.

[turbid dome]

You would have a new civil war here if that happened

[plain ruin]

i think it was something to do with one of the chemicals on certain ones

[turbid dome]

Ok that's wild

[turbid dome]

people will get high off of anything tf

[fallow shard]

Ur country sucks

[turbid dome]

Oh also the videos you had to get a permission slip for so some kids didn't even learn that

[plain ruin]

who do you think invented glue sniffing

[turbid dome]

elmer's

[formal pilot]

Rats

[turbid dome]

idk

[fallow shard]

Fym u need permission likw this situation couldn't get any worse

[formal pilot]

Kamlesh

[fresh flower]

I was gonna say something but I remembered I have mods after me

[plain ruin]

this is the only right answer

SOLUCHANNN

[turbid dome]

Well because some parents may not want their kids exposed to content about puberty and want to teach it on their own (fundamentalist version or not at all usually)

[fallow shard]

I'm crying myself to sleep tonight

[turbid dome]

lmao

[plain ruin]

@turbid dome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImjVe8rKLnw

[formal pilot]

Feeling proud indian army

[plain ruin]

ngl pretty sad

[turbid dome]

He looks simultaneously 13 and 55 😭

[formal pilot]

How would you explain a person like him about the meaning of life without religion

Why he should stop getting high

[fresh flower]

I lowkey miss Nobu I'm ngl

[median sphinx]

that is a great point, but obviously some people don’t, because ethic and moral values have changed enormously in 2000 years

[turbid dome]

Btw @fallow shard @slender coral , there's a law in Arkansas, Act 573, that would put the ten commandments in every Arkansas classroom (currently only held back by the courts but the local university is implementing it regardless) , and when I was in school here they passed a law that put "In God We Trust" signs in every classroom.

Not to mention the Christian organizations would explicitly break the law in order to harass me to convert in school.

[shell hemlock]

i used to live in a neighborhood that had teens addicted to that, those glue for shoes

[fallow shard]

That's so odd

[slender coral]

Those people are disgusting af.

Oh the dhimmi hates me, I'll cry 😭

[turbid dome]

Not really. Most people here are like that so there’s no consequences

[fallow shard]

[feral river]

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1993015459201929229?s=20

The White House (@WhiteHouse)

"I just had a very good telephone call with President Xi, of China. We discussed many topics including Ukraine/Russia, Fentanyl, Soybeans and other Farm Products, etc. We have done a good, and very important, deal for our Great Farmers — and it will only get better. Our

X · Nov 24, 2025, 5:54 PM

whoever made any statement against Donald J. Trump himself and his administration should be sentenced as treason against the United States of America under the law

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

[fresh flower]

"Religions are oppressive and shut down dissent"

[slender coral]

Bruh really thinks that me making fun of him for saying he is hating on me is the same as Muslim countries killing apostates.

[fresh flower]

... I wasn't equating those two💀

[slender coral]

Well, it is one of the main reasons why I say religion is oppressive.

[frail nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-heresy-newspaper-gif-8197244

[fresh plover]

I should stop reading books, they're making me hate society

[turbid dome]

you don't already?

[fresh plover]

Argh

[fresh plover]

I saw something really profound today

And I was watching a youtuber vlogging in Afghan

It was so bad, not ONE woman on street

[turbid dome]

wouldn't they just learnn the same stuff over and over? Or is there a school library or whatever

[fresh plover]

And a girl vlogger went to Afghan and those "holy" men were lusting after her. Why all the rules for women

Why can't men be held on the same standards

[turbid dome]

turns out they don't want to not have to talk

[fresh plover]

I think its just because they can go somewhere, as they're probably more prone to getting married away

[turbid dome]

fair enough

[fresh plover]

after 6th grade

[turbid dome]

crazy early

well ig that's what you'd expect when religion rules a society

[fresh plover]

😭 Talk about somalia, a 7 year old was marrying a 65 year old!

[turbid dome]

😭

[fresh plover]

And there was this woman that made videos stopping forced and child marriages

Apparently she was assassinated

[turbid dome]

wtf

Yeah the fact people defend it is more gross 😭

[fresh plover]

https://youtu.be/aL0fvilQlfQ?si=zfoSAkOgRCBc-lqZ

[fresh plover]

Of course, just simply outrageous and disgusting

[turbid dome]

That's so gross but ig it truly is back to biblical times

[fresh plover]

Ah, humanity sucks

[marble seal]

That crap also happens in the US 🙁

[fresh plover]

Not even because of religion, and all religious factors ASIDE, the fact that kids can't learn because of their gender is sad

And that people find joy in oppressing KIDS for some sick pleasure

And women

[slender coral]

To them, women are supposed to only serve a set of specific purposes they determined, and live the lifestyles they allow.

[fresh plover]

It's like, even through religious lenses, women are God's creation too. How can they act like that is beyond me

But honestly Afghanistan is a very volatile example, as even men get oppressed for opposite views

[marble seal]

you ....are so close to connecting the dots....

[turbid dome]

Well, by religion being detrimental for women it gives more control to men, providing an incentive structure for one group to be religious and enforce religion

[marble seal]

thats its a class hierarchy issue.....

[turbid dome]

interestingly though since men have been historically powerful they make up a majority of atheists

[fresh flower]

Uh oh are we confusing religion with how people use it again 😢💔

[turbid dome]

A bit of a paradox that religion creates power for men which turns them atheist

[fresh plover]

I definitely agree!! But the thing is, it gets messy when it is justified as a 'religious law'

[marble seal]

Only because ... religions have always been used as means of control. Sadly, not many people are capable of seeing that

[crystal kayak]

Yep

[glossy ether]

uhoh!

[turbid dome]

Religion and class are one in the same, in that religion distracts from class.

[fresh plover]

Like for example, if you oppose something in say countries like Sudan, Zimbabwe, and Somalia, they'll justify it as islamic law and regional culture.

And the fact that stuff is written to be interpreted that way is somewhat scary.

[turbid dome]

"A guy said it so it must be right"

[fresh plover]

Aww, did you have fun coping

[fresh flower]

That's literally science

[fresh flower]

Coping? What?

[marble seal]

Ive been thinking a lot lately about the whole ..... leaders and the lead. I always thought otherwise that people should be told and be able to decide complex topics on their own....but lately I kinda understand that not everyone is capable of complex thought

The levels of copium here are off the charts

[marble seal]

I made a meme saying dumb shit so it must be right 😭 20iq ahh logic

[fresh plover]

Nevermind, daftness can't be chastised away

[fresh flower]

@glossy ether Broski why is it so easy💀💀💀

[prisma cipher]

Tell her about powerful men https://youtu.be/e67tVisO9ZU?si=QMDeng6luhr5-lR1

[turbid dome]

nobody is 100% right so idc who said it unless they bring evidence

[fresh plover]

Of course, I'm very heretic in my views, I'm not criticising ONE religion, they're equally as bad

[fresh flower]

You're not even saying anything you're just insulting 😭😭😭

[manic juniper]

Do you have a GameCube

[marble seal]

I got that you were talking about them in general

[fresh plover]

What can I say when almost all the religion in the history have supported slavery

[manic juniper]

Why

[fresh plover]

I don't know about almost but you get it, the major 4

[prisma cipher]

No but I wanna

[glossy ether]

LOOOL

idk bro

[prisma cipher]

My faw console by appearance

[manic juniper]

I got my hands on a GameCube bios, now I can start them from the original menu

[crystal kayak]

The united states of atheism

[fresh plover]

It's just the concept is very cultish

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-mummified-crocodiles-nope-no-way-nah-gif-18987040

[marble seal]

when you realize that south american religions had human ritual sacrifices

[fresh flower]

Heheheh ur not smart religion is bad idiot☝🏻🤓

[manic juniper]

I mean heretic how

[fresh plover]

Brainwashing and socially conditioning your children to believe in your beliefs is just weird

[crystal kayak]

That literally how devil talks

[fresh flower]

Most of them*

[fresh plover]

😭😭😭😭😭

Funniest thing I read today, y'all jest

[fallow shard]

No bcs my beliefs are simply best

[marble seal]

I wonder how people miss the red flag....that actually learning and thinking is devilry

[fresh plover]

I believe in UGF, United Gays of Finland

[marble seal]

like...thats classic cult logic

[fallow shard]

LMFAO WHAT

[fresh plover]

+11111111111111111

[fresh flower]

Yall just make shit up how are you any different from "made-up religions"😭😭😭😭😭

[crystal kayak]

I dunno why they feel so superior when talking to us

[marble seal]

aye science is made up ... /s

[fresh plover]

You sound like every flat earther out there that's sitting in their mom's basement

[manic juniper]

Pagan reaction

[fresh flower]

Most atheists overestimate their own intelligence, they think the absence of religion makes them more logical/intellectual

[slender coral]

The religious lenses themselves were mostly made by men.
And through these lenses, women are made for men. Even the creation of humans in the Abrahamic narrative literally say that Eve was made for Adam.

[fresh flower]

Again, nothing of consistency, just insults

[fresh plover]

The presence of critical thinking actually does make them smarter though there's stupid people everywhere

[marble seal]

better believe in my imaginary friend 😭 else me and my imaginary friend are going to be really mad at you

[crystal kayak]

@fresh plover are you an atheist

[fresh plover]

Your sentences leave almost to nothing of debate. You express things in a way that's vague, what facts do you think are "made up" by atheistic people

[fresh flower]

How's that any different from being mad at people for choosing to be religious

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper by the way turn English autosub and listen, she also rule Kiev back then, and many other countres.

[marble seal]

Mad? nah im just laughing at ya

[slender coral]

[fresh plover]

Yes

[marble seal]

you are being fun of here ...if you dont get it

[fresh flower]

Me? I'm not even religious?

Why are you guys so slow

[fresh plover]

#🧠｜serious-chat message Literally here, the guy criticizes atheism as "devil talks"

[manic juniper]

Isn't she Catherine II? Probably one of the most competent rulers of the Russian Empire but isn't she the one who got rid of Crimean Goths

[fallow shard]

Actually if you think about it religious people aren't any dumber, they just happen to believe in what they believe . It doesn't need to be right or wrong, it's wrong when you're justifying ur stupid shi w religion

[fresh flower]

Read it again, I thought you mentioned that you read literature so I don't understand how you misread it. He was saying that it's the mannerism in which Devil talks, not atheists, I was the one who attributed it to atheists

[crystal kayak]

I was just pointing out the Truth

[fresh flower]

Noooooo you can't say this atheists are more logical 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[slender coral]

Idk about Christianity, but Mohamed literally advised his followers to not entertain the question "who created god" because as he put it, it's from the devil.
Salafis literally say من تمنطق تزندق whoever rationalizes hereticizes, and while they are referring to trying to understand how how metaphysical shit work beyond what god clarified or left ambiguous, it still is a limit put on rationality.

[fresh plover]

Of course. Having beliefs doesn't automatically make someone dumber, it's the belief that's dumb.

If religious people were all dumb, I would have to disrespect my parents first

[woven quail]

Ku-li mu

[fresh flower]

So is it Islam or all religions? Pick one

Or are you attributing things that Islam says/does to all religions?

[crystal kayak]

Well you guys believe the universe just came into existence out of nothing

[glossy ether]

who’s actually an atheist here

[fresh flower]

Like 6 of them

I'm Drake right now

[fallow shard]

Why is it certainly dumb? Yes, you can't prove God or any other higher being is there. It doesn't make the believe itself stupid, it's belief, not truth. Ik some say it's true and some don't but then what

[marble seal]

....there is a difference between we dont know and coming from nothing

[woven quail]

debil yapping about Islam again

[slender coral]

Well, I've seen similar patterns, attitudes, mindsets from texts of other faiths and their followers as well, so that's my judgment to them.
You can point out something that disproves my idea, and I wouldn't reject it.

[fresh plover]

Sure, let's decipher it, you said, "oh no religion bad" which is obviously a jest to us. And even if not so, the context makes it. Nobody here is 12 and wants statements to be verbatim, it can be understood with context.

[humble acorn]

what's the topic you all are discussing!

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[uncut tiger]

talking about god again

tsk tsk

[prisma cipher]

No idea about that, by the way I have money almost at the time her rule. Just little earlier

[crystal kayak]

So you don't know how the universe came to be

[manic juniper]

Who is that

[fresh flower]

Can you provide said examples?

[glossy ether]

but you’re gay and brown

[crystal kayak]

Sup star

[marble seal]

Yes...Science doesnt know yet

[woven quail]

Lavenom

[uncut tiger]

atheists

dont believe in a religion
proceed to talk abt it for 6 hours

[uncut tiger]

Hello I'm Diaz and I'm straight and white.

[manic juniper]

I looked it up and it's unknown, but it's likely that it happened under her, do you have pics of the coins

[woven quail]

atheists

dont believe in a religion
proceed to talk abt it for 6 hours #

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper

[marble seal]

but we also know that its nothing what the religious yappers say

[crystal kayak]

And I don't think they will ever know

how the universe came into existence

[manic juniper]

Mythology is better

[prisma cipher]

1753 year

[woven quail]

Yeah fr

[manic juniper]

How did you get your hands on this

[fallow shard]

Atleast they've better plots

[humble acorn]

chatting with a friend and reading a few chats here, hby!
how are you doing!

[woven quail]

Where did u find that?

[slender coral]

Olivander is claiming that atheists claim they are more tolerant and smarter than religious people when they are not.
And now we are talking about whether the negative things anti-theists associate with religion are the fault of religion or the fault of people.

[fresh plover]

Having a belief that a higher being exist isn't stupid! I respect agnostic people.

But when there's 1000+ versions of that higher being and each one is used as a power play against the community by the religious scholars is when it becomes a problem.

Think of any deeply catholic/islamic/hindu/buddhist/jewish country or whatever.

It is never a justification when it is so fluid, and that's what makes it so stupid imho. Of course everything I said started with "I think" so it's all my opinion

[turbid dome]

in many cases same thing as religion except not enough believe anymore

[marble seal]

thats exactly what religious idiots have been saying about most things for centuries at this point........

[prisma cipher]

In the ground

[fresh flower]

That's NOT my issue with atheists just to make it clear

It's the insufferable "I'm more logical"

[manic juniper]

All these versions exist, they could be an aspect of that one being or simply 1000+ deities and entities

[marble seal]

but here we are.................having to debate people with room temp iq on a device which most of them cant even begin to comprehend

[manic juniper]

Did you use a metal detector

[woven quail]

I prefer u read about human history

[fresh plover]

Sure, but then there's versions that are polytheistic and disprove the fact that there can be thousands of deities because their deity said they're the only one

[fallow shard]

Now it makes sense

[fresh flower]

"Religions is bad because they shut up criticism"

"Everyone who disagrees with me has room temp iq"

[manic juniper]

Well yeah it could still be true, in my opinion some gods definitely lie or wish to be the only ones worshipped by humans

[crystal kayak]

Your just proving @fresh flower The arrogance this atheist have, about what exactly did we say science can't prove

[marble seal]

wait until you realise truth and reality actually...exist

[manic juniper]

They are false monotheisms

It's easy to convince humans

[fresh flower]

I'm telling you these guys are INSUFFERABLE

[prisma cipher]

It my friend give me this. But he found it in the group, I won't tell you the way he found it. But because it bad duality this money cost nothing if you wanna sell it

[fresh plover]

Sure, but the same beliefs also say gods can never lie!
And believing in polytheism is pagan

[manic juniper]

Telegram? Lol

[crystal kayak]

Just chilling and watching atheist rage at the very existence of us

[turbid dome]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[manic juniper]

It is pagan, and paganism is better because you get to choose your needs

Pagan reaction of Poland

[prisma cipher]

No fr my friend just give me it, he have a lot

[fresh plover]

But isn't that cherrypicking

[marble seal]

Idk fam brain eating bacteria would starve in some peoples head here 😭

[prisma cipher]

In the past at least

[marble seal]

but aye they are pissed cuz of their own skill issue

[fresh plover]

So we have to cherrypick gods now? Local elections weren't enough

[manic juniper]

I want to get an old hryvnia

[manic juniper]

No that's not how paganism works, you can worship more than one at once according to your needs

[prisma cipher]

Those is Russian Ukrainian just use name

[crystal kayak]

Because he is black

[manic juniper]

I choose deities with reptilian features because they represent true divinity in my eyes, other gods are false gods

[humble acorn]

atheists are confused ppl, they are not even sure how they came into existence and mostly believe in chimpanzees to humans, and lots and lots of coincidences and miracles and theories, and most of them proved wrong by new generation, always evolving, instead of facts, how could that make them intelligent or smart ppl!
-# it's my opinion!!

[marble seal]

OG reptilian worshipper

[fresh flower]

Literally nothing of value just insults and overestimating their intelligence

[fresh plover]

But you're conveniently ignoring the much larger demographic that thinks they're morally superior or somehow better than the rest of the society because they follow one of thousands of religion.

Very convenient.

[prisma cipher]

This one my father found just in the ground fr

[humble acorn]

as usual, one of the thing you will see lots of time on discord,

[manic juniper]

It depends on the period, idk about Moscovy but in Kyiv they often stopped trading with coins and went back to bartering

Either they were close to communism or the economy sucked big time

[fresh flower]

It's convenient because it doesn't happen in this chat, why would I attribute things to the conversation that has nothing to do with it?

[fresh plover]

It literally does. Maybe it's because you're immune to it that you turn a blind eye towards it

[manic juniper]

Double headed birds are the way

[slender coral]

These verses are of the examples I found on this.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 1%3A18-25&version=NIV

[fresh plover]

Also, I can literally go back and I swear it was you saying are we judging religion because of how people use it.

We can turn it around as you judging atheism as insufferable due to the people in the chat

[prisma cipher]

Also my friend have a lot like small thing I will google it. I forgot the name but they made from silver. I should take at least one, because those are fr ancient.

[manic juniper]

If they are made of silvers they could be actual hryvnias

[high rapids]

I think the most people here are doing drugs

[fresh plover]

And honestly you'd still have the short end of the stick because religious people here (Like Abdul, Nobu and others [they who shall not be named]) are much more extremist in their believes and if we were to judge a religion with respect to the people present in chat, it would never be a good look

[manic juniper]

Tikkuri

[manic juniper]

Can confirm I'm one of those

I'm not as extremist as the others you listed tho

[fresh plover]

No, you're one of the sanest person here

[manic juniper]

Are you sure

[fresh plover]

In my book

[slender coral]

We aren't the ones killing and imprisoning people over their beliefs these days.
https://exmuslims.org/our-issues/blasphemy/

[cerulean pivot]

Drop the cap

[fresh plover]

Without a shred of doubt

[fresh plover]

Shh

[cerulean pivot]

how are you doing
Haven't seen ya in a while

[fresh flower]

Did you even read it? It literally criitiques prideful wisdom, not the pursuit of knowledge, how does this verse prove your point?

[fresh plover]

Zenax, you literally live beside afghanistan, teach your neighbors some feminism /j

[manic juniper]

The bar is below the bedrock

[fresh plover]

+1, it actually is for this chat!

[ancient silo]

🥀

[cerulean pivot]

There's a whole ass country between us

[crystal kayak]

Source ex Muslim.org

[fresh plover]

Aren't you from Iran

[manic juniper]

He is a normal Shia

[ancient silo]

he ia not

[cerulean pivot]

I'm gonna hit my future wife for this

[fresh plover]

I've relatives in Iran

[cerulean pivot]

Iraq with q not n

[prisma cipher]

By the way I have anbernic that can run all console up to dreamcat and PSP. Soo good

[fresh plover]

F***ing baghdadi

[high rapids]

[cerulean pivot]

Americans and their geography knowledge

[manic juniper]

Is that a fan made console?

[cerulean pivot]

Handheld

[fresh plover]

I'm not american

[fresh plover]

Iraq is worse, nein?

[fresh flower]

No one is stopping you from doing it? It's literally not even what I'm talking about so I don't understand why you'd go off on a tangent, do you at least now see the hypocrisy and how you/atheists aren't that dissimilar?

[high rapids]

German?

[cerulean pivot]

We both suck tbh

[prisma cipher]

It's China's

[manic juniper]

Don't know to be fair, Iran seems more insane and the Shias are weirder too

[manic juniper]

What's on the other two pages

[cerulean pivot]

This comes with games installed in it's sd card right?

[fresh plover]

I definitely thought Iran was better than Iraq in extremism

[cerulean pivot]

this is the 3:4 version
Great for GameCube games

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah they are more extreme

[fresh plover]

I don't see the hypocrisy that you're talking about. Be precise or don't say anything

[manic juniper]

Better in the competitive sense? Yes they are

[crystal kayak]

Both?

[cerulean pivot]

Iran and Iraq
Financially speaking

[fresh plover]

I don't judge religion based off of people like Nobu or Abdul, my point was you shouldn't too

[manic juniper]

There is the TurboGrafX 16 bit 💜

[crystal kayak]

Look on the bright side north Korean triple sucks

[fresh plover]

I don't see how that text correlate with all this? That was pointed at the system and yours was at individuals in this chat

[cerulean pivot]

[slender coral]

What is prideful wisdom?
If it's prideful, it's not wisdom, and that's the problem. The critique the verses present here is to the idea of opposing the faith, painting it as a bad thing because you are opposing god, while ignoring the fact that those who oppose it don't believe in god to begin with so it's a nonsensical critique all around. It simply warns followers of thinking in ways that could make them go against faith, that's what I understood from it, and I think there are more instances of this in both OT and NT.

[fresh plover]

The system that favored churches and mosques

In politics in the past

And in some countries even now

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper also it have retroarch in it with even more consoles.

[cerulean pivot]

Is it an Android or Linux based?

[manic juniper]

I made a petition to have a pagan temple be built in my village, 500 people voted in favour which is more than the average but Petteri Orpo didn't do anything about it

[gritty echo]

What is the topic

[fresh plover]

That's crazy, why don't you teach them something :(

[slender coral]

Can you deny anything they say in the page I provided?

[prisma cipher]

This one is Linux

[manic juniper]

Petteri Orpo will pay for delaying my fibre getting fixed and not building our temple

[cerulean pivot]

Ohh cool

[gritty echo]

Is it again a piece of religion

[fresh plover]

😭😭😭😭😭

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper

[manic juniper]

How good do PS2 games run

[fresh plover]

I want to frame this and keep it on my wall

[cerulean pivot]

Sucks

[fresh plover]

Funniest thing ever

[manic juniper]

Show what's on ports

[manic juniper]

I guess, NetherSX2 isn't as good as PCSX2 and the latter is beefier

[fresh plover]

Now I'll do an irish goodbye

[manic juniper]

I found out that blending accuracy kills performance at the level I set it

[cerulean pivot]

The cheap ones usually only capable of psp and GameCube at it's finest

[prisma cipher]

Ports is old pc games, don't use it, it have quake, Wolfenstein 3d

[cerulean pivot]

Ps2 ones require atleast a good snapdragon cpu

[manic juniper]

As usual

[turbid dome]

is that a violent one

[crystal kayak]

I don't know about those countries but Muslims in my country are chill, inshaallah someday I will invite you over and show you the beauty of Islam

[crystal kayak]

Hold up are you British

Never seen a British atheist before

[prisma cipher]

It can't run ps2 consoles, too weak. It can run good up to ps1. And can run good enough Nintendo ds, PSP, and Dreamcast

[cerulean pivot]

@prisma cipher you could run visual novel games and simple rpg ones by using an emulator called joiplay

[manic juniper]

Do you think I will ever convince my cousins to have a dump of their 3DS and Wii

Possibly even the Wii U

[fresh flower]

Yeah you're reaching here and I think you know it too, that verse warns against trusting human pride and status-driven intellect over gods revelation. It doesn't go against learning, it just goes against arrogant “wisdom” that dismisses the gospel, it doesn't prove your claim, do you have other verses?

[manic juniper]

I want to unlock all functions of Azahar and Cemu

[cerulean pivot]

Like deez

[prisma cipher]

Why not

[manic juniper]

It's like a deal with the devil tho

If they give me the unique data of their consoles and handhelds they will never be able to do the same things I am planning to do

[prisma cipher]

I will check what is that

[cerulean pivot]

Some of them won't work so there's also another one called easyrpg

It's easy to setup and you can bring the games just by downloading the pc versions of them

[manic juniper]

I have that on my Vita

[cerulean pivot]

||steamrip||

[fresh flower]

I have to, I'm Allah's greatest warrior

[prisma cipher]

Go check their website they have biggest consoles that can run ps2, and those are really good made, good quality. https://anbernic.com

[slender coral]

You will invite me bro? You seem to really hate me.

[prisma cipher]

I mean all consoles is with good quality, because I have one else console that is good but quality is kinda meh

[manic juniper]

I am good with my Vita, I didn't get to try a GameCube game on it so idk if it works but everything else besides PS2 runs well

There are some PS2 ports that are great, actual PS2 emulation isn't s thing on Vita

[cerulean pivot]

Check my list

[prisma cipher]

I know, but they have this, two screen, for Nintendo ds perfect emulation.

[manic juniper]

Lmao

[cerulean pivot]

That's cool

[manic juniper]

These handhelds and consoles are going too far but it's a good thing

[manic juniper]

He got the untitled goose game

[cerulean pivot]

Isfrun simulator

Being rude to strangers

[manic juniper]

My compatriot's simulator

No wait she's duck

[manic juniper]

I just answer fire with fire

[prisma cipher]

I remember they have gba looking one, and this one game boy colour like

[manic juniper]

Do they receive updates, I guess they do

[prisma cipher]

Ngl I wanna buy all of those

[cerulean pivot]

In this genre ( bellows 100$) they are the best
But in higher ones nothing can beat the retro pocket and flip series from Retroid

[prisma cipher]

It have WiFi, and yes, but it depends. Their hardware not the best. Like for mine I have to download update on my pc and install it on SD

[slender coral]

I don't have other verses tbh.

And I don't wanna move on from this, if you don't mind.
I still don't get it, maybe you are misunderstanding me.
I'm not saying that the verses are saying "do not learn anything", even Mohamed when he commanded his followers to stop thinking at the question who created god, he didn't mean for them to stop learning completely.
The way I see it is that, those two faiths did draw limits before anything that could undermine them, and that's not something an honest intellectual would do. Intellectual honesty include the ability to be skeptical about your beliefs, and it seems like that's cancelled with religion. The discouraging of followers to be skeptics, which very often reached intensity with physical and psychological earthly punishments, and threats of being tortured in hell, all of these are aspects of anti-intellectualism. Things that eventually led to books being banned, scholars assassinated, killed, imprisoned, and scientific ideas rejected today entirely on the basis of faith.

[manic juniper]

From what I've seen they are making much progress when it comes to upscaling hardware and monitors

[slender coral]

Holy text wall

[crystal kayak]

First of all don't call me bro,it is not you who I hate it is the atheist superiority that you carry around and the obsession that you have with us I hate.I would still invite you over as long as you are not gay

[prisma cipher]

You know about consoles that uppe to 100$ there is Nintendo Switch lite territory. It can run a lot emulators, and also native switch games.

[manic juniper]

How

Does it use actual Switch components?

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah the modded Ones are great

[manic juniper]

Or is it just that powerful

[slender coral]

I'm bisexual so Idk about that.
I don't see myself as superior to anyone really, and for the obsession you really stretch the definition of the word to fit me, I mean being obsessed is bigger than posting about something on Discord often.

[prisma cipher]

No no I mean real Nintendo Switch. I mean if you try to find good device that cost more that 150$ it like better buy Nintendo Switch lite.

[cerulean pivot]

The regular switch lite ones are dirty cheap
U can modify them with a tool that you can buy and download any software you like

[cerulean pivot]

Check " Tinfoil "

[prisma cipher]

Is it tablet?

[midnight shard]

Hi I just joined the Server I can speak nearly fluently but I have a very Advanced oral exam coming up and I want to practice. Which vc should I join?

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah
Xiaomi pad 6

[prisma cipher]

I play some of those, hollow knight of course, and Celeste is great

[prisma cipher]

Using gamepad?

[cerulean pivot]

Yes

[prisma cipher]

Which one?

[cerulean pivot]

easysmx x10

[crystal kayak]

Ohh so that is why you were that excited about those men, good for you.This is the problem with atheist they don't want to acknowledge their mistakes,you guys act like you are intellectually superior to believers and let's be honest here this is an obsession.It is late here goodnight,

[prisma cipher]

Just check, looking like Nintendo pro controller. I consider Nintendo pro controller are one of the best

[crystal kayak]

Hope your e-dating goes great

[manic juniper]

Type of shit you find on GitHub

PS Vita has hardware modifications... On GitHub