🧠｜serious-chat

[slender coral]

Let's make this clear first, you realize I'm atheist right? I don't believe in god nor gods, and that committee of gods is a hypothetical scenario to disprove the necessity of one god. Because since you started talking to me about this I got the feeling that you think I'm a polytheist.

[gloomy frost]

I never said I think you are an polytheist to begin with, I just thought the idea was a little bit interesting, But why would you even bother trying to prove an hypothetical scenario when you don't even believe in that.

And If you are forced to use assumption to prove it, It ain't proof.

Just delusion.

[slender coral]

Again, it's to disprove the claim that only one can god exist. I explored that hypothetical to show that yes multiple gods can exist. If you don't realize, I was talking to that Muslim fella and the claim of pure monotheism is foundational in their faith.

[gloomy frost]

But that's an hypothetical scenario, Not the truth.

[slender coral]

Ok, I know. And?

I really don't understand you 😭

I mean, what conclusion are you trying to reach?

[gloomy frost]

Pfft, Sure, You can't disprove something if you use assumptions.

[gloomy frost]

Just a simple one, That you are just wasting your time on a hypothetical scenario where you change it a lot of times to fit your idea.

[slender coral]

And I'm not using assumptions. I'm saying that scenario is possible and therefor it disproves the claim that "multiple gods cannot exist". I hope you get me now.

[gloomy frost]

Then they are idiots as well, I understand where you are coming from but It's just foolish to fight a fool on foolish things.

[thorny steeple]

If u admit your scenario isn’t real and u don’t believe in it, then it can’t disprove anything. A made up example isn’t evidence against monotheism

[gloomy frost]

He's just saying that as an possibility not reality

[glossy ether]

sannnaaa

[gloomy frost]

There's a possibility that there's a teapot on Mars but it doesn't mean it's true.

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[gloomy frost]

Yeah, I see no issues.

[thorny steeple]

Saying something is possible is not evidence. A possibility u imagined doesn’t disprove anything. If u admit the scenario isn’t real and u don’t believe in it, then it can’t be used to reject monotheism. A made up scenario isn’t a counter argument

[glossy ether]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh my fellow sister

my sundays going great i have family over today though

wbu?

[summer sphinx]

we are charli kirk we carry the flame
we fight for the goyspel to
honour his name

[glossy ether]

stfu

[thorny steeple]

Bc if multiple gods had unlimited power, their actions would overlap and conflict And if they have limits, they aren’t actually gods That’s why the idea doesn’t hold logically

[summer sphinx]

make me

[hidden shore]

i gonna buy them all tho

[fresh flower]

Hello I'm new here

[fresh flower]

Not here bro go back to refugees

[slender coral]

يا معاوية

[hidden shore]

because there is so much religions as far as we know, if you live in a village and a tribe community isolated outside of world yes you 100 percent believe your own religion and there is one god

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sheikh-fake-cry-crying-man-crying-sheikh-gif-18098038

[thorny steeple]

If they always think the same and have the same goals, then they aren’t separate gods they’re just one will copied several times.
If they don’t think the same, then conflict is possible.
Either way, the idea of multiple gods doesn’t hold up

[slender coral]

Iran

[dense agate]

cross + mashallah
did i miss a new update or smth

gow and gow ragnarok
wonderful games

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[cursive bobcat]

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[dense agate]

nice

[slender coral]

Goyspel?

[dense agate]

we call it supreme leader 😊

[slender coral]

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Doesn't work @dense agate😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/noperms-gif-27260516

[hidden shore]

okay i will try

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/george-bush-angry-shoe-throw-dodge-gif-5298606

[thorny steeple]

Looking different or living in different places doesn’t matter. If they have the same mind and same goals, they aren’t separate gods. If they have different minds, then conflict is possible. Appearance and location don’t change that

[glossy ether]

she’s muslim on the weekdays christian on weekends

we shia together

mashallah

on wallahi things are gonna get lit

[dense agate]

no yahudism, dang

[glossy ether]

FUCK

we ALL jewish today

shalom my fellow zions

[thorny steeple]

Clones aren’t the same bc they have different minds and can make different choices. If ur gods also have different minds, then conflict is possible. If they have identical minds and never disagree, then they aren’t truly separate gods...ur example proves my point, not yours

[glossy ether]

alialialialialiali

japan 2026 maybe as well?🥺

[slender coral]

Christians being fluffy with Muslim fundamentalists is something that I'd never understand. It reaches some weird levels some times. Back in the days when Sam Paty got murdered, I saw some Egyptian Christian priests put that إلا رسول الله "anything but the prophet of Allah" filter on their Facebook pfps, and it made me wonder, mfs if you think he was prophet of Allah then why didn't you convert to Islam already 😭

[thorny steeple]

Twins aren’t the same person bc they don’t share one mind and can make different choices. If ur gods have separate minds, they can disagree. If they share one mind, they aren’t separate gods

Nice mental gymnastics devil

[slender coral]

Thanks for the compliment, you are masters in it.

Top of the top.

It's a big thing to be acknowledged by the professionals.

[thorny steeple]

If they have different minds, the chance of different goals always exists. Calling them maximally rational doesn’t remove that.. Rational beings can still choose different priorities or methods. If disagreement is impossible, then they don’t have independent minds, and they aren’t separate gods

[manic juniper]

They could, doesn't mean they necessarily do

If they are as smart as a god would be they wouldn't disagree

[slender coral]

He is just unable to understand that

And doesn't wanna move on

[thorny steeple]

It wasn’t a compliment. Mental gymnastics is what u’ve been doing the whole time by dodging the actual logic

[slender coral]

You geniunely didn't realize I was being sarcastic? Oh my god.

You failed to convince three people here of your point, and still keeps going.

And trying to pin the blame on us for not agreeing with your mess of a logic.

[thorny steeple]

If they can make different choices, then conflict is possible. Saying they never would is just an assumption. Rational and omniscient beings can still choose different priorities or methods. If disagreement is impossible, then they don’t have independent minds, and they aren’t separate gods

[manic juniper]

Even one god could disagree with itself if it's omnipotent

Does that mean it will disagree just because it can

[turbid dome]

But is your god the same god?🧐🧐🧐

[slender coral]

Their god already changed rules and teachings and they have a term for it.

[manic juniper]

Idk how some people have a difficult time understanding omnipotence

If it's omnipotent and omniscient then there are no limits in the way the power and capabilities would be applied

[thorny steeple]

If they can disagree, conflict is possible. If they can’t disagree, they don’t have independent minds. In both cases, u don’t get multiple real gods

[thorny steeple]

Sarcasm doesn’t answer the argument. It’s not about convincing people, it’s about addressing the logic. If u think it’s wrong, then show where it breaks instead of dodging it

[manic juniper]

It would be a divine hivemind, it's not multiple gods but it's not one either. And like I said before, even one god could disagree with itself if it's omnipotent, doesn't mean it necessarily will

[ancient silo]

🥀

[manic juniper]

Unless the rightmost and most rational choice is to disagree

[slender coral]

I already showed enough times, you just aren't convinced. The use of sarcasm was out of frustration of how you keep going with a condescending tone instead of just closing the conversation and accepting that we didn't reach an agreement.
But I guess being a religious often means not being able to tolerate differing views.

[thorny steeple]

Rational doesn’t mean identical. Two perfectly rational beings can still choose different priorities or approaches while both staying rational. So independent minds mean the possibility of different choices, which means the possibility of conflict

[turbid dome]

😭😭😭

[manic juniper]

We may not understand why they need to disagree but it's possible

[thorny steeple]

If they share one mind, that’s one being. If they have different minds, disagreement is possible. There’s no middle state where they’re many gods but somehow one will

[manic juniper]

Pando shares one mind, but it's not one being

I also share one mind with myself yet I'm billions of cells at once, those are all different beings

[ancient silo]

i want to g00n so bad but im holding in 😭🙏

[thorny steeple]

u didn’t show anything u used a hypothetical u don’t even believe in, and it never solved the core contradiction. Not agreeing with weak logic isn’t the same as not tolerating views

[manic juniper]

Somehow you're making up rules and limitations for things that we have no idea about how they'd function, this is like saying that Pegasus couldn't have a horn on the forehead because it would hurt aerodynamics and couldn't evolve it

[ancient silo]

it is not sleeping gng

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-misono-arius-mod-discord-gif-13933025578271285252

[thorny steeple]

Coming to the same conclusion every time means they don’t have independent minds. At that point it’s one will,.. not multiple gods

[ancient silo]

what you guys are talking about ?

[manic juniper]

Lol if all people with normal vision see a car as green and a colourblind man sees it as yellow does that mean they share the same mind or simply that they function as intended

[slender coral]

Go g00n away, don't spill it here.

[glossy ether]

we’ll make it out the gc

[thorny steeple]

Pando doesn’t have one mind. It’s a shared root system not a shared consciousness or will. Sharing structure isn’t the same as being one mind

[ancient silo]

i want to stop g00ning and be a better person 🥀

im trying to distract myself

islam

[slender coral]

Wrong

[thorny steeple]

Even twins with telepathy still have two separate minds. They can think differently and choose differently. Sharing thoughts isn’t the same as sharing one will

[ancient silo]

god

[slender coral]

Now, I'll touch you.

[manic juniper]

The root is where a plant's mind is

[slender coral]

You only had one chance, you aren't escaping touching.

[ancient silo]

stop this gng

it finally went down

ain't doing it today 🥀

[thorny steeple]

Reaching the same solution every time means their will is identical. If the will is identical, that’s one mind, not multiple gods. Perfect intelligence doesn’t erase individuality unless they’re not separate beings to begin with

[manic juniper]

No, that simply means they know the truth and the best solution

Nelson Mandela explained it perfectly

[slender coral]

RIP Nelson Mandela

[turbid dome]

Now say in 2010 god is driving a purple PT cruiser, how does that change this?

[frosty hearth]

He didnt die

[manic juniper]

If all my homies and I don't walk off the volcano every single time yet a mentally ill guy takes a bath in a volcano just to disagree with us doesn't mean he has individuality, just that he's fucking stupid

[turbid dome]

He did

[ancient silo]

the truth is that America and china are the strongest countries so we have to follow what they do 🥀

[manic juniper]

Lol yes he died in 2012 or 2013

He died the day after we studied him at school

[thorny steeple]

If they have their own wills, then the possibility of choosing differently always exists. Saying they always choose the right action is just assuming perfect agreement, not proving it. Independent wills mean disagreement is possible

[thorny steeple]

Roots aren’t a mind. Plants don’t have a shared consciousness or a unified will so the example doesn’t apply to the idea of multiple godss

[manic juniper]

It's an example of individuality versus being a group, wouldn't change a single thing about it being s possibility

[slender coral]

We are pivoting to another topic like this

[slender coral]

You jinxed the guy 😭

[thorny steeple]

Knowing the best solution isn’t the issue. If they always reach the exact same conclusion with the exact same will, then they don’t have independent wills. That’s one will expressed many times, not multiple gods

[ancient silo]

one is already enough to make a lot of people suffer 😭🙏now we are getting multiple ????

[fresh flower]

Too many atheists here, do you want me to get involved bro

Put me in coach

[ancient silo]

imagine 4 gods and all of them decided that you are gonna be touched today 🥀

[manic juniper]

It's called convergence, doesn't mean it's the same mind and you failed to make a point in favour of it so far

[thorny steeple]

A morally perfect being doesn’t choose wrong bc its nature is perfect, not bc it lacks the ability to choose. That still means one will. Multiple independent wills would not be identical by naturee

[manic juniper]

Greece gameplay

[slender coral]

Pay the Jizyah while you are at it too 😭

[thorny steeple]

Your example still doesn’t work because plants don’t have a shared mind or a unified will. Without a shared consciousness, it can’t support the idea of multiple gods acting as one

[fresh flower]

I'm about to "troll" debil

[thorny steeple]

My network is bad

[ancient silo]

are you from iraq ?

[fresh flower]

Dw bro I can handle them

[thorny steeple]

Yes bro

[fresh flower]

Restart your wifi

[manic juniper]

My example wasn't to prove that a mythological concept could work because of a biological one, just that a group can still share the same organ

[thorny steeple]

Tgen wait 20 minutes

I'll be back

[ancient silo]

olivander is here to refute all atheists and prove to the world that there's no god but allah

[fresh flower]

Enshallah ☝🏻🙏🏻

[ancient silo]

👍🏻good luck brother

[fresh flower]

They can't engage with me though they just call me a troll to dismiss any fair criticism 😢💔

[ancient silo]

they are scared from the truth

[glossy ether]

turkish spelling 💔 its over before it even started

[ancient silo]

🥀

[slender coral]

He is ragebaiting.

[fresh flower]

Wait a min wtf is wrong with the star on your role

[glossy ether]

idk bro

[fresh flower]

"They can't engage with me though they just call me a troll to dismiss any fair criticism 😢💔"

• Me, a minute ago

[glossy ether]

i picked the first yellow icon

[fresh flower]

The I can't stand for anything I say so I deleted my past messages get on my nerves

[slender coral]

"#🧠｜serious-chat message"](https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/EuYc3q54J-bVmviVCOYGkdmita2Vn4IdZw2HHJORgZk/https/media.tenor.com/s4Jf6seva20AAAPo/vince-mcmahon-entrance.mp4)"
-You a minute before it

[cursive sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1077424882247274557.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=cutetwerk

[fresh flower]

Being an atheist doesn't make you more intellectual or logical than a religious person, regardless of which topic it's being measured on

[glossy ether]

yahoo big summer blowout

[fresh flower]

Woah my old messages are still there?

[manic juniper]

What if I did

[slender coral]

Shocking

[fresh flower]

That includes discussing religion, and you/you guys have claimed it

[slender coral]

lmfao

[crystal kayak]

Incoming Israeli propaganda

[slender coral]

You don't realize it, he thinks (or just trolling Idk but some people are stupid to that level so hard to determine) that we think we are smarter than religious people just because we discuss religion.

[fresh flower]

Be me
Make a claim
Provide evidence for it
"He's ragebaiting/trolling"

How

[slender coral]

It doesn't necessirly have to be like that, y'know.

[crystal kayak]

Atheism

[slender coral]

Have I ever claimed you are trolling before?

[fresh flower]

It's genuinely worrying

[slender coral]

I talked to many religious folk here, some normal, some unhinged, but Oli is the first one to be labelled as a troll by me because his behavior is genuinely trolling often (if not always lol).

Or at the very least appears so, that would be revealing about his intelligence if it's the case.

[crystal kayak]

Nope.How is e-dating going for you,no offense

[glossy ether]

if ur so upset why dont u just stop interacting with him

or ignore him

or block him

idk

theres just so much more you could do than keep being upset that someone is “trolling”

[fresh flower]

"But uhhhh only religions shut down dissent"

You can't disagree with me nooooooo

[slender coral]

Maybe you didn't notice but he once claimed he converted to some religion, he used to larp as a Shia Muslim and even had an entire conversation with a Muslim member where he claimed to be a Shi'i Muslim.

[fresh flower]

Oh my God.....

[glossy ether]

uh oh!

[high rapids]

@abstract night Im still waiting

[crystal kayak]

Wassup

[slender coral]

He is annoying but entertaining too tbh, because some people are just too stupid that they seem to be trolling and it sometimes appears to be the case with him.

Me neither

[high rapids]

Welcome back

[glossy ether]

idk bro ur overcomplicating things

u sound like my ex gf

[high rapids]

[fresh flower]

Literally keep proving my point 😭😭😭

[slender coral]

Maybe it's lack of intelligence maybe it's trolling Idk 😅

[crystal kayak]

@fresh flower All of this just because you are a shia

[fresh flower]

Should I report them for harassment 😢💔

[high rapids]

This guy is MrSheen he changed his name to troll

[glossy ether]

hahaahahha

[uncut tiger]

Is chika lesbo

[slender coral]

He deletes his messages too, Idk why but if you wanna troll there are other ways.
@abstract night why are you doing that?

[turbid dome]

so he can't be seen as inconsistent

[glossy ether]

nah

are u

[slender coral]

How inconsistent is he, I wonder?

[uncut tiger]

yeah I am

[slender coral]

I guessed this.

[glossy ether]

thought so

[uncut tiger]

whyd you say ex gf then earlier

[lime cobalt]

Whats goin on ?

[crystal kayak]

Egg dumplings and vegetarian soup

[glossy ether]

why not

[fresh flower]

That's the funny part bro, I only rp as Shia💀

[slender coral]

How many times have you changed your beliefs recently?

[glossy ether]

ya hussain

[uncut tiger]

stop confusing me

[crystal kayak]

@turbid dome

[turbid dome]

yes?

[slender coral]

You became a feminist?

[crystal kayak]

Why does this nelson guy chat so weird like he is trying to be formal,do you think he is using Ai

[turbid dome]

I'm not quite sure but I don't think AI is likely

[crystal kayak]

Do you know Chris eubank

[turbid dome]

no

[crystal kayak]

Search him up, this nelson guy gives off that vibes

I see

[slender coral]

I feel like it's not about how it's currently understood, but how it's portrayed by its opponents. If you believe men are women deserve equal rights in the sense of providing them with equal opportunities and acknowledging that men and women aren't rigidly tied to gender roles, then you are a feminist.

[crystal kayak]

Should the pro women footballers paid the Same as the pro men footballers

[slender coral]

Don't you think I'm a dishonest evil person or something like that?

[fresh flower]

You are though

[crystal kayak]

I just wanted your opinion on this should they be paid the same

[slender coral]

Bruh why do you want it if you have no bit of respect toward me?

[crystal kayak]

Why are you avoiding the question, should they be paid the same or not, 🧐

[primal narwhal]

Yo

[slender coral]

Not avoiding the question but avoiding engaging with you.

[slender coral]

Hello

[primal narwhal]

Wssup

[crystal kayak]

Yes or no

Should they be paid equally

[slender coral]

Thing about women sports is, they have lower viewer rates. I think feminism needs to focus on equal pay when the effort being made is equal.

[slender coral]

Not all women sports of course, women's MMA has high view rates and women in MMA get paid equally. But women's soccer is one of the sports that aren't doing well financially and therefor don't give the players in it similar pay to men.

[woven quail]

Omggg zazuuuuuu

[crystal kayak]

You are not a feminist

Just pack it up

[crystal kayak]

Lavvvvvvv long time

[woven quail]

Yeahhhhhhh how areeee uuuuuuu

I love that pfp

He loved us

[crystal kayak]

Are you dumb how should they be paid equally they don't bring in that kind of revenue

[woven quail]

What’s the topic here

Why zazu mad again

[crystal kayak]

Fantastic, what about you

[woven quail]

Eh Alhamdulilah just studying and stuff how’s life been lately

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-gif-gif-8524601943548603280

[crystal kayak]

Ehh average nothing new,you still afraid of lizards

I don't understand

You want to pay them equally, how

[golden jetty]

You're welcome: women athletes being paid more relative to their current revenue makes sense because it helps correct past discrimination, builds a stronger talent pipeline, and can grow future viewership and overall sports revenue

[crystal kayak]

I am not opposed this,I would actually like to see it happen

[fresh flower]

This doesn't work btw

[crystal kayak]

How will it not work

[fresh flower]

The key issue here is that most women aren't into sports and are even less interested in watching it

[indigo fox]

hi guys

[fresh flower]

Our womens FA has been active and funded since 1973

[indigo fox]

whats the topic ?

uhm ?

ahh nice

iam sporty

[fresh flower]

Both girls and boys are more or less forced into sports in Sweden, very few women do end up transitioning to it professionally despite the structure being there for it

[crystal kayak]

This is changing as the years pass like in my country more women are getting more interested in sports

[fresh flower]

They won't be paid the same because sponsors aren't interested in paying as much for less viewership, and there's no stigma whatsoever regarding women in sports as far as Sweden goes

[fresh flower]

Girls or women?

You have, but there's no mention of who's funding it, corporations won't do it because there's nothing for them to gain, a government could chip in, but there's no benefits to it

[crystal kayak]

Sorry,I meant girls

[fresh flower]

Yeah that's common and normal everywhere though, but it doesn't transition to adult women in/watching sports because the audience and interest just isn't there

At least not on men's scale, so the payout will never be the same

A ROI from what?

Investing in grassroots sports is commonplace for corporations, the only ones who benefit from it are those who invest in men's football/hockey/basketball

[crystal kayak]

But here they do watch sports both girls and women especially football compared back in 2016-2010 era when you couldn't even find a girl or a woman that was interested in watching football

In my country

Goodnight everyone and the swedish Somali

[fresh flower]

The others are irrelevant when it comes to feminism

[fresh flower]

Sleep well my Shia prince 🤍

[slender coral]

Dhimmi

[fresh flower]

Watching or playing sports has nothing to do with religion though, even Saudi Arabia has a multi-tier women's football setup with leagues and divisions, are you attributing cultural norms to religion?

[slender coral]

A lot of conversations about religion here talk about religion but still distant from it. Like, someone would say "religion says this, religion doesn't say that" without getting into the meat and seeing what the texts and scholarly views say, y'know, the things that the religion actually consists of? There's much ignorance around religion.

[fresh flower]

If you're referring to patriarchal norms, religion didn't create them, it existed long before them, it's not anything inherent to faith itself, even though you can argue that religions are sexist to some degree. Less religious people doesn’t necessarily mean less patriarchal norms

You can be religious and feminist though, unless the religious is extremists and the feminism whatever the current trend in the US is among liberals

[thorny steeple]

You can be religious and psycopath

[fresh flower]

Dawg what does that have to do with anything 💀

[thorny steeple]

Sociopath = psycopath

[thorny steeple]

Everything

[turbid dome]

I miss when ragebait was good

(never)

[fresh flower]

Dexter Morgan pfp btw

[violet spire]

Someone want to talk bout id god exist or not (I want to improve my inglish)

[thorny steeple]

Sociopath just feel more them psycopath

[thorny steeple]

What do you believe?

[violet spire]

That god exist

I only have logical arguments

[thorny steeple]

How can you prove the existence?

What is your religion

[violet spire]

If you want we can talk about in a call to improve my speaking too and I am Muslim but that's doesn't matter first of all we need to talk bout id there is something or no then we can talk about which one is the true religion

[thorny steeple]

Nah

[slender coral]

Both terms, psychopath and sociopath aren't scientific from what I know. The scientific term used is ASPD anti-social personality disorder.

[violet spire]

Alright😔

Can I give you my facts and give me your opinion?

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

Proceed

[slender coral]

Go ahead, I'm interested.

Idk

[golden jetty]

Go ahead, I'm interested.

[slender coral]

I thought "hey why Nobu doesn't post", searched for his message history and he is muted as usual

Idk why they don't get it over with and ban his ass.

[violet spire]

First of all. We need to think obout how it was created the universe ( explosion of materia and antimateria "Big Bang") but I ask you where is coming from that materia and antimateria that is my first fact we could thing bout the The law states that matter is neither created nor destroyed, but that doesn't negate the fact that a force, which obviously cannot arise from nothing, could have caused the bug to explode. Bang, that's my first fact.

To understand that there had to be something, or at least that's how I see it

[slender coral]

He is insufferable when you interact with him, and keeps posting the same stuff every time with the same silly emojis.

[violet spire]

Yeah but its start whit something

Every cycle has a beginning.

[thorny steeple]

What if universe created itself

Or always existed

[slender coral]

It wasn't an explosion, that's one thing you got wrong.

The Big Bang wasn’t an explosion in space. It was the sudden emergence of space itself. It wasn’t the shattering of a quiet silence by a noise, but rather the birth of all noise and silence together.
https://www.sciencenewstoday.org/what-really-happened-at-the-big-bang-the-origins-of-everything-explained

[violet spire]

Or maybe it was created by someone. If we don't stop to look at our galaxy, we can see that everything is perfect for us to live in, not only that we are in the perfect place, but also that

Ye

God doesn't depend on anything to exist; he wasn't created, he didn't arise, he simply is. If we think he was created, we could ask the same question about that creator, and that's not true. God is simply eternal.

Other planets also help our survival, like Jupiter, and there is a constant balance in the universe due to black holes and energy explosions.

[turbid dome]

If god simply is, why couldn’t the same be true for other things?

[violet spire]

Besides, in our universe there aren't just a few perfect things, but everything is perfect. Just look at biology; everything is perfect, so it's not a coincidence.

[potent tide]

Brian and stewie used a time machine to make big bang

[turbid dome]

If everything is perfect then why do species go extinct?

[potent tide]

Depends on how you look at object

[turbid dome]

That seems to be balance, not perfection

Perfect is rather subjective

[violet spire]

Everything is perfect but the humans no God it doesn't Make decisions for us; our decisions led the world to this.

[turbid dome]

Depends on perspective

It’s definitely spicier ngl

[violet spire]

What is spicier ngl

Xd

[thorny steeple]

This question could be logic if only that kinda god you are talking had a beginning

[potent tide]

Imo the best answer to this conversation will be the moment in king of the hill, where bobby and hank are talking about flower

[thorny steeple]

Someday all us will know the answer

[potent tide]

True

[violet spire]

I didn't understand the question

[potent tide]

Idk for fun ig

[thorny steeple]

Bc he's beyond everything

[potent tide]

I see

[potent tide]

God?

[violet spire]

The univers is perfect as you know thats why it need to be something that thinks and all that and the big bang was perfect to Each atom itself explodes, and they all explode simultaneously.

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[potent tide]

Guys i had an essay about is tolerance towards people of other religions against your religion

I wanna listen to your answers

[violet spire]

The human is curious and God doesn't says that its Haram to be gays god only says that you ar not going to do that actions

[potent tide]

Yall

[violet spire]

Everything has a resound id gods thing is the better for it it's going to be like that

[potent tide]

Imo it's kinda psychological thing

[violet spire]

Ye the people has curiost and they want to try something new and sometime they like it

[potent tide]

Do muslims ascend if we are talking in perspective of christianity or other way around

?

I share your thoughts friend

But can someone answer to my question? I am curious about your replies

[violet spire]

The islam is a true religion if yo want I can send you a lot of facts about science that it waited in the quran

And everything int the book is perfect no contradiction

[potent tide]

Yo i have a question, did prophert Muhammad had a wife?

[violet spire]

Ye

[potent tide]

How old was she, just curious

[violet spire]

18

[potent tide]

Ah ok then

[violet spire]

In that time the age was count

Wait I send

[potent tide]

Wdym by that

They conted age differently?

[violet spire]

Women's age at that time began to be counted from puberty.

[potent tide]

Can you be more specific

[violet spire]

Wait I go to traductor xd

[potent tide]

How old was she if we are talking about modern age counting

[potent tide]

Huh?

[violet spire]

20-21

[violet spire]

Idk to speak good inglish

I'm from spain

Si what do you think obout my logic xd

So*

I only wanted to talk obout the facts and know what the people think

[unborn quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1353084275158679552/1382768197715103855/bounce.gif

[violet spire]

No one understands the logic 😔?

[thorny steeple]

What your thoughts

[manic juniper]

Where is Buddha's grave

[thorny steeple]

Good question. Did he really exist

[vocal quest]

Did Jesus exist

[manic juniper]

Yes he existed

[vocal quest]

I could say the same thing

Just need to be biased toward something

[vocal quest]

As for buddha there are few places where u can find the remains of his body

[vocal quest]

Confucius was a scholar closer to something a great monk type not something divine

It is just that all the followers from different faiths see their
One as divine and believe others are false

[wary oak]

Dude I’ve been to a church with catacombs for bishops and stuff

There was also a saint’s grave there

it was mad cool

[cursive sphinx]

Did I exist

[latent steppe]

yall wastin ur damn time arguing with people who were put in special ed

[torpid dirge]

What's your encounter point

They are not gonna admit all of scientific research and discovery on earth being not flat

Becoz they're fcking reta rted

Even though they have refused to be agree with nasa research

I did that bro I was down the range with these kind of PPL totall waste of time

You don't have to be shameful about it

[latent steppe]

how did u lose

yes be ashamed how do u lose a bunch of speds gng

what do u mean

so is their contention that gravity doesnt exist or what

that doesnt even make sense u dont prove a thing exists by assume it as a variable

but then again these people have never heard of the scientific method

they dont accept modern science but under the modern scientific framework it would be gravity and the weak laws of attraction

u "lost" to them cuz they led u around

u simply have to ask them what their reason is

neither is there an experiment that proves that the earth is flat

no its not

their claim is equally a positive claim

because they need to provide a positive claim within their framework to explain why objects fall to the ground

that is not the default position and thats a shite argument

if they believe that their framework is correct at least it has to be coherent

density, which is explained under the scientific system

they reject a coherent system for one which is far less coherent and simply brushes ideas off for being inconclusive with their bad logic

less dense surely

then its not at the same temperature and pressure since theres less of it

surely these questions can be answered by a google search

the problem is not that they are asking questions but that they do not have a counterfactual model

no u just have to answer tards with the tard way

it doesnt matter since the scientific position is far more nuanced and coherent than theirs and therefore its way easier to end up requiring an answer that u wouldnt be expected to know

thats just straight up bs obviously

and if u didnt challenge that then uve lost

the default assumption itself assumes two things

one that the default can be defined, which we know to be false since the default is a human concept and not a natural concept

and secondly that there can be a default assumption at all and that it should have more credence / truth value, which is simply untrue in any formal philosophical system of truth

they have just as much burden to prove a counterfactual

no u cant because they are challenging the physics / basic science framework

u cant prove a system using itself

just like u cant say god is real because the bible said so

the argument against a flat earth is very simple, under a coherentist framework the modern science view has way more credence and is therefore true, there is no other way to justify it vs a flat earth argument

from a pragmatist definition of truth the scientific framework also wins

basically all of physics

if ur sped enough to think gravity doesnt exist

and thats why nobody will ever convince them, because experiments provide data which can be perceived under any kind of framework that is sufficiently pliable

eg if data shows that the earth has curvature they can simply update their beliefs to suggest that the earth is a flat manifold in hyperbolic space or some bs like that

u cant the prove that the earth is or isnt flat using an experiment without first assuming all the prior laws of physics, which they disregard

so its pointless

whether it does or not is irrelevant, this is purely a philosophical thing

u cant prove god's existence using the bible

yes and no, depending on what your theory of truth is

i believe in coherentism, but that would be correct under a pragmatist theory

i think coherentism is much stronger

well then they need to provide an alternative explanation or set of physical laws, as ive explained

[fresh flower]

Just ask them a simple question

[latent steppe]

shits not even that hard bro

"are you based in tel aviv?"

[fresh flower]

Like why can people in different time zones experience sunrise and sunset at completely different times if the Sun is supposedly always above a flat plane?

[fresh flower]

That works too lowkey

[latent steppe]

werent u banned

[fresh flower]

My lawyer too powerful

[latent steppe]

lemme fuhh...

[fresh flower]

Flat Earth vc is chill though they're almost all nice

Except for that woman, she's mean

[latent steppe]

thats straight up restarted cuz then the sun's umbra would be a cardioid

[fresh flower]

You gotta keep asking questions and let them fumble, it's easy, they try to bait you by talking about science stuff you wouldn't know about. Just ask them if the sun is creating a caustic pattern like light in a coffee cup, why does the sun physically move in the sky along a measurable arc instead of staying in one place and only projecting patterns?

[latent steppe]

ask them to explain the curvature of the earths "walls" then

[fresh flower]

Play their game, ask them questions

[latent steppe]

the sun would cast a shadow that looks like a heart shape

[latent steppe]

yo gng i lowkey fw u like u give off chill pdf vibes

no, this is just a direct implication of their caustic explanation

[manic juniper]

Do they even have any rebuttal against the Dinosaur Earth theory

[latent steppe]

if they believe it's a caustic, the sun would cast a heart shaped (cardioid) shadow

https://tenor.com/view/young-thug-sp5derworldwide-spider-king-spider-ninja-gif-4389782250895466266

[fresh flower]

Ask them why I in Sweden can see Ursa Major high all year, while for Randy in India it drops low and disappears for hours, and Randy in India see southern stars we in Sweden never see

[latent steppe]

ong i love india

[fresh flower]

Jai Hind Jai Bharat Jai Vandemataram

Jai Paul too, has to be the most influental one drop artist of all time

[ancient walrus]

Hi chat

[glossy ether]

LMFAO

[golden jetty]

Why

[latent steppe]

best country in the world

[olive herald]

Meow

[feral river]

https://x.com/america/status/1992607399040217598?s=46

America (@america)

Just a reminder that Voter ID is overwhelmingly popular and is not a partisan issue.

X · Nov 23, 2025, 2:53 PM

We need complete deportation against terrorists and stop them from influencing American politics

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

[olive herald]

Wot ?

[swift crest]

I get it it's out of topic
But shouldn't the total sum be 100%?
84+15 = 99%

[turbid dome]

Often times those numbers are rounded down

So it could be 84.5 and 15.5 as an example

[swift crest]

Ohhh
Got it

[magic olive]

[hidden shore]

religion mention

[thorny steeple]

Sharing an organ isn’t the same as sharing a mind or a will. A group can share structure but that doesn’t make their consciousness one And without one shared will, the example doesn’t support multiple gods acting as a single mind

[thorny steeple]

No

[thorny steeple]

I’m using a Hindu example bc it’s a real polytheistic system. In Hindu texts, devas like Indra and Shiva sometimes reach different conclusions even with divine knowledge. That shows convergence doesn’t erase independent wills separate gods don’t act as one mind

[plain ruin]

It's hard, but not impossible
One has to work through it and go through what led you to becoming sensitive/what let them to become narcissistic in your environment as a child

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper This isn’t just my view. Philosophers from Islam, Christianity nd Judaism all said the same thing in their own books. Ibn Sina in The Metaphysics of the Healing showed that two necessary beings would be identical, so they would be one. Al Ghazali in The Incoherence of the Philosophers explained that two unlimited wills can’t both have total control. Maimonides in The Guide for the Perplexed wrote that a perfect being can’t have a rival. Aquinas in Summa Theologiae added that if two gods had unlimited power, each could block the other. All of them reached the same conclusion only one true God is logically possible

[thorny steeple]

...

[thorny steeple]

...

Somehow I missed ur messages earlier, so I’ll reply now. One being cannot disagree with itself bc it has one will. Disagreement requires two independent minds. And changing a rule isn’t contradiction it’s still one will acting over time. None of this supports the idea of multiple gods

[slender coral]

Wasn't ibn Sina accused of disbelief by ibn al Qayyim?

[thorny steeple]

Yes, Ibn al Qayyim did accuse Ibn Sina of atheism but that doesn’t change his argument. Ibn Sina still argued clearly that only one necessary God can exist. An accusation doesn’t erase the logic he wrote

[high rapids]

Good morning

I declare snowball fight war on all of you

[thorny steeple]

Btw It’s funny how u skipped all the actual arguments and only replied to the one side point about Ibn Sina That doesn’t answer anything I said about the logic itself. If ur position was strong, u wouldn’t need to dodge the main points

[formal pilot]

[slender coral]

You still don't realize I don't want to engage with you on that? We already went over it and you spoke to me with a condescending tone, we reached a point where either one of us can convince the other so I said let's move, but you didn't move on it seems.

You've been talking about the same exact thing for a couple of days now.

And you failed misrably to convince three people of your views until now, and still want to keep going.

[magic olive]

Bet

You will get crushed lil bro

[slender coral]

Anyway

https://youtu.be/1L3DaREo1sQ?si=f7uidrvJDuRE2Ejh

[high rapids]

😂

[upper zodiac]

life is amazing

[shell hemlock]

what’s that symbol in your role icon mean

[high rapids]

Always

[golden jetty]

Anyone who has strayed from their true self seeks to reunite with their essence

[potent tide]

Ig so

Did something occur in your life that gave you this view

[golden jetty]

Obv

[magic olive]

I don’t even know

Going to change it

[frozen cape]

Birthday cakes

[slender coral]

Two consenting adults of the same sex -> ultimate evil
A man in his 50s sleeping with a 9 years old child -> you are falling in presentism fallacy 🤓 it was actually normal back then and actually girls at that age are/were hot and pathologizing sexual attraction to minors is western propaganda

[rain lava]

I have seen the symbols in medical ngl

Similar

[potent tide]

Yaa

[potent tide]

Umm wtf

Well the only argument that i can have here that people's lifespan was shorter

That's why they married youbg girls

But f pdf

Hope they will all die

In torment

[slender coral]

People back then had it rougher and their knowledge was way more limited than us, but problems arise when one considers them to ultimately be better than us and try to apply their values and structures in the present.

[potent tide]

Yeah

[turbid dome]

“Also Europe did it”

I don’t think European monarchs were/are good people.

[potent tide]

Not being intolerant but didnt this happen to prophert muhhamed? (I respect all religions) didnt he marry a little kid from present view but a woman if we are talking about that period?

@slender coral

[potent tide]

Everyone was shit back then

[slender coral]

It comes from the assumption that people they talk to also sanctify some historical figures like them. When they talk about what they believe "atheistically" wrong and right, they'd tell you something along the lines "your atheist scholars" in parallel to how they parrot the opinions of their scholars and what they call "people of knowledge". It's all a projection.

[potent tide]

@slender coral

[vast estuary]

Hi

[slender coral]

You aren't being intolerant at all, I was referring particularly to Mohamed. Yes he did that and yes a lot of Muslims today defend it unfortunately.

[vast estuary]

https://youtu.be/xUNMNVasMZk?si=M-8mpxLnjG50JMpg

[potent tide]

[vast estuary]

Open it

[potent tide]

Aint opening sus links lil bro

[turbid dome]

Something I’ve noticed quite a bit

[slender coral]

It's safe. Has https and the link has the domain of youtube youtu.be.

[slender coral]

This is AI slop

[vast estuary]

@potent tide again open

[potent tide]

Later

[vast estuary]

@slender coral yes

Open it

And comment it

Suggestions give me

[slender coral]

It's AI slop dude, what suggestions do you want?

[vast estuary]

Open it see and tell me how to improve it and add in it.

[plain ruin]

How old are you and what are you planning to specialize in?

Are you in school or university?

[cerulean pivot]

Why does a white woman have an Indian accent

[potent tide]

Idk

[thorny steeple]

U keep announcing u’re done like it’s a victory lap, but u only ever reply to the soft points and dodge the ones tht actually matter. Then the moment u think u spotted smtg small to poke at, u sprint back in That’s not confidence that’s selective bravery. If u rlly had a solid reason for leaving Islam, u wouldn’t be running laps around the main question, and uk that if u keep stay in the discussion, the gaps in your reasoning will be exposed

[rain lava]

Indian accent is the easiest accent

[frozen cape]

Takes a bit of getting used to

[slender coral]

Omfg, you were the one who literally kept announcing an alleged victory
You don't know the difference between disengaging and claiming victory?

The latter is something you kept doing.

[slender coral]

Delete the video and start over, make something human.

[vast estuary]

@slender coral Oka .it is fell 90% human

[slender coral]

What do you mean the voice over and the visuals are AI 😭
That's a lot already.

[vast estuary]

Oka

[slender coral]

I'm not even sure you wrote or generated the script.

[slender coral]

I'm glad my existence is irritating to some people

[thorny steeple]

I didn’t see this earlier, but it’s obvious u weren’t trying to make a point u were fishing for a reaction. When some1 has real arguments, they don’t need to dress history in shock value lang to make it sound worse. That’s what ppl do when they’ve run out of facts. If u ever decide to argue without hiding behind exaggerations, then we can talk

[thorny steeple]

I never announced a victory. I pointed out that u were avoiding the main arguments. That’s not victory claiming, that’s calling out selective replies. u’re trying to reframe it because addressing the actual points is harder than arguing about tone

[thorny steeple]

It’s not ur existence that irritates ppl it’s the way u try to get attention by saying things u can’t defend. If u ever argued in good faith nobody would care

[slender coral]

Idk why you consider a random sarcastic post is evidence that I'm not willing to engage seriously, but ok. Yeah we can talk, and while the message was sarcastic I guess you can see my points through it, you can ask if you need clarification on anything. Do you think Mohamed's relationship was justified, normal only in his context, or that he actually didn't marry Aisha when she was 9 years old?

[slender coral]

It's only religious folk who have a stance ranging from dislike to hate towards me, that tells you something.

[thorny steeple]

If u want a real discussion, then drop the sarcastic framing and ask the question normally.
As for the history early Islamic sources report different ages for Aisha, not just one number Some narrations say 9, some say older, and later scholars disagree on which is strongest. And whatever the exact age was, it was judged by the norms and legal systems of that time, not by modern standards...If u want to talk seriously, u have to acknowledge historical context instead of forcing modern labels onto a very different era

[thorny steeple]

It’s not about religion. Anyone would react the same way to some1 who jumps between sarcasm and bait instead of sticking to an argument. If u dropped tht behavior, nobody would have an issue with u

[slender coral]

Oli is a Shia larper so his opinion doesn't count

[potent tide]

Fuck pedos

That's all

👍

[hushed ferry]

discuss what makes the brain focus

[thorny steeple]

When the argument gets too heavy, u always switch to labels. That tells us exactly who ran out of points

[crystal kayak]

I would just ignore him

[thorny steeple]

I could ignore him, but that would let him think he actually made a point. I’m not here to boost his confidence

bad arguments need to be checked If no one pushes back he’ll keep repeating the same nonsense

[crystal kayak]

Okay,did he tell why he left islam, and as you can see the moment you prove him wrong he goes ghost

[slender coral]

I'm going to university you lifeless idiot. I'll respond when I return.

[crystal kayak]

But arguing with such people is a waste of time,they will never change

[crystal kayak]

Lifeless says the one who's whole life is obsessesing over Muslims

[thorny steeple]

No, he never gave a real reason Every time I asked, he dodged it or changed the topic and yea the moment the logic corners him, he disappears. That’s been his pattern the whole time

[thorny steeple]

I’m not arguing to change him. I’m arguing so his bad points don’t stand unchallenged. Some ppl won’t change, but leaving their claims unanswered just encourages them

[crystal kayak]

He has been like this since I met him on here,no valid reason just hate and obsession over Muslims his whole personality is about being an ex Muslim

It is literally sad

[thorny steeple]

Ppl like him always follow the same pattern loud attitude, no real substance and a constant need to prove smtg They depend on reactions bc that’s the only way they feel relevant

@cursive sphinx boi, where u at

[high rapids]

[wise prawn]

Anyone watching Dear X here?

[high rapids]

No where can I watch it?

[high rapids]

Cry about it

[shell hemlock]

why this guy always be mad

[high rapids]

Who?

[zenith phoenix]

Hey guys

New here

[shell hemlock]

devil

always causing problems with muslims

[high rapids]

????

[shell hemlock]

ig he live up to his name

[high rapids]

@shell hemlock Zazu is also causing problems he gets muted every 3 days

[shell hemlock]

so

what now

i didn’t even mention zazu

[high rapids]

But you said something against devil lol

[shell hemlock]

yeah what abt it😭😭😭

??? 😭😭😭

mods have logs btw

🥺

[high rapids]

Go for it

[shell hemlock]

i’m cryig

[cerulean pivot]

I wish I had even a quarter of his confidence

[iron dagger]

Uh, last I checked, on the Sunni side of Islamic life, her age is pretty solidly 6 at marriage, 9 at consummation, and 18 at Muhammad’s death. All Hadith are Sahih and they’re repeated with different chains of narration.

https://sunnah.com/search?q=Nine+years+old

The other problem is that Muhammad seems to hold a double standard in this matter. Because when Abu Bakr and Abdullah bin Buraidah ask for Fatimah, he tells them that she’s too young for them.

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3221

Which means that he knows it’s not customary for a 50 year old man to take a nine year old girl.

Now, if you’re Shia, that’s a different story. But Shia have other problems.

[cerulean pivot]

What problems do shias have

Enlighten us

[wise prawn]

Who's watching Dear X here?

[iron dagger]

Ever heard of mutah?

Yes.

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah? What's about it

[iron dagger]

You don’t have a problem with it?

[cerulean pivot]

Ofc not

[wise prawn]

Hey goy

[iron dagger]

Do you have an issue with prostitution?

Right. And the answer is yes to both.

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah
I see where you are going

[iron dagger]

There you go, then.

[cerulean pivot]

Mutah with it's rules is not like this

[wise prawn]

Wasting your time on goyim?

[cerulean pivot]

just having fun

[iron dagger]

Okay, aside from a piece of paper and a blessing from an Imam, tell me how mutah is different from prostitution.

Welcome to the real world, my friend.

[wise prawn]

Why are you accused of sucking the blood of babies wherever you go?

[cerulean pivot]

It's a temporary marriage
with several conditions and legal rulings that i can't summarize currently
but it's exactly like an Islamic marriage,

If you're taking your words form sunnies resources and websites that's a different story

[iron dagger]

Wow! Straight to the most anti-Semitic come back you could possibly make. I’m not engaging with you anymore. 🙏

[cerulean pivot]

He's a khamas member obviously

[wise prawn]

I was waiting for you to say antisemitic,
Welldone

Hey choosen one where are you?

[iron dagger]

Right, so it’s a temporary engagement between two consenting parties where the exchange of sexual services is offered for payment.

How is this not prostitution in a different wrapping?

[wise prawn]

A sunni masquerading as a jew, what a time

[iron dagger]

And if it’s exactly like an Islamic marriage, that just goes to show how degraded the Shia view of marriage really is.

[cerulean pivot]

The way you're phrasing it is wrong from the beginning
Every relationship between two people is a prostitution According to you
What distinguishes this marriage from another thing you've mentioned is its legitimacy
Mutah is sanctioned in our tradition through hadiths and verses, and it has conditions and laws, and this is what distinguishes it
One of the conditions, for example, is announcing the marriage publicly
And the "iddah " concept

[cerulean pivot]

You gotta read the Practical fiqh Messages of our scholars about it

[lusty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-drama-discorddrama-gif-22395692

[cerulean pivot]

Talking nonsense about something you don't have enough knowledge about is just absurd
I can't criticize Christianity because i haven't studied it's core
I can't just throw different verses and call it a debate

[lusty zenith]

But you can. And you should

[cerulean pivot]

No

[iron dagger]

Clearly you’ve never been to Jerusalem.

And, yes, if Hamas is hiding in a church, destroy it. We’ll rebuild. Free Gaza from the tyranny of Islam! Make a Christian state!

[cerulean pivot]

Not like this
Not in here

[lusty zenith]

Booooooooooooooring

[iron dagger]

Oh, you really don’t want to go to iddah, my friend. That will end badly for you.

[cerulean pivot]

" but there was huzbollah there "

[iron dagger]

Then if it’s Hezbollah in the church, get the Christians out if you can and bring that roof right down on their heads.
We’ll rebuild.

[cerulean pivot]

He's clearly not a Christian

[cerulean pivot]

I saw that coming

[iron dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/david-goggins-lifting-they-dont-know-me-workout-gym-gif-17664862

[cerulean pivot]

Good goy

[iron dagger]

So, how do you say I’m not a Christian when you asked me exactly nothing about my faith? A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ who trusts in His sacrifice for the remission of sins and justification before the Father.

Or do you think that all “true” Christians are pushovers and pacifists?

[cerulean pivot]

Idk

I might be blind

[thorny coral]

Everyone so serious let me lighten up the mood

Kittycat

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah go on

[thorny coral]

Kittykitty kitty

Cat

[iron dagger]

It’s a tag for a different server.

I’m Messianic Jewish. So, yes. I’m Christian in that I follow Yeshua haMashiakh and I’m Jewish because I do exactly what Jesus’ followers did and I practice the Torah. I’m also Assyrian Hebrew, so by lineage, I have Jewish blood.

Acts 21:20

And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law…”

[shell hemlock]

[cerulean pivot]

In short
What should we call you?

[shell hemlock]

just from my opinion i think there are possible reason as to why some people support israel and most of them are related to opposition towards islam & muslims

[iron dagger]

It also has a lot to do with the Bible and people who believe the Bible holding that the establishment of Israel is fulfillment of prophecy.

[iron dagger]

You can call me BarEprem.

[shell hemlock]

elaborate

[hoary glen]

I finally saw Jews here.

[rain lava]

Do u support genocide?

Bro is a slow typer

[shell hemlock]

the server tag/server he is in seems like a troll server icl

like an edgy dark humor-ish kind of server

[shell hemlock]

people should learn to use simple sentences on discord

it’s not a business email 😔

(i learned that in class today)

[rain lava]

Why not he use chatgpt

[iron dagger]

Nope.

And the state of Israel is not committing genocide, if that was where you were going next.

Islam on the other hand, is, by definition, a genocidal religion. And Hamas is a genocidal organization. As is anyone who chants “from the river to the sea”.

[iron dagger]

Because, unlike this generation that tosses their brains in the trash over what an algorithm tells them, I know how to do actual research.

[shell hemlock]

islam is a genocidal religion 💔

[rain lava]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[shell hemlock]

mass murdering innocent children isn’t genocide ? 💔

[iron dagger]

Surah 9:5, Surah 9:29

[rain lava]

Ikr

[iron dagger]

If you think that’s what’s happening, then you are horrifically misinformed.

[shell hemlock]

let’s talk about your definition of genocide first before we jump to religion because we have different beliefs and it’s only right to state the term we use for ‘genocide’

[rain lava]

takes up atleast 20 minutes 😭

[shell hemlock]

what is happening, is there a justifiable reason as to why innocent people should be murdered ?

so something something cleansing huh

[hoary glen]

No, it will soon return to the embrace of Islam.

[rain lava]

Massive killing is cruel, and thats whats happening right now, why do you think islam is genocidal religion meanwhile in islam if theres war happening , islam kept old people , women and child safe.

[shell hemlock]

keep your enemies closer or something the proverb

[hoary glen]

Unfortunately, there aren't many Christians here.

[iron dagger]

No, there is no justification for the murder of an innocent person. But innocent people die in war. And when the terrorist organization you’re fighting crosses an international border and starts brutally killing your civilians, hacking them to pieces with machetes, and kidnaps them to use as human shields, then you go to war.

[shell hemlock]

i think there are but not a lot of christians focus on debating too much like muslims do

[hoary glen]

The number of Muslims determines the content of the chat on this channel.

[shell hemlock]

which is good i think we should keep our relationship with God personal to us

[hoary glen]

It's determined by quantity, not by religion.

[cerulean pivot]

All of ts for 9$ 😭✌🏿

[iron dagger]

If you want to see Christians engaging in serious discussion, I invite you to the Ask A Christian VC.

[shell hemlock]

you are making a justification right there though, innocent people die in war (?) the innocent civilians aren’t the ones bombing countries so why should they suffer ?

[rain lava]

invite more christians

[shell hemlock]

we do have some christians here believe it or not but that one christian usually can’t be taken srsly, so is the other muslim

[iron dagger]

Because that is the reality of war. I put the blame for the deaths of those innocents squarely on the shoulders of Hamas.

[shell hemlock]

butttt double standards for palestinians ?

they are dying from israel too

[cerulean pivot]

Our bravest crusader nobu the great

[shell hemlock]

i absolutely HATE this 😭😭😭😭😭

[iron dagger]

What double standards? If you want to talk about double standards, let’s talk about Hamas blocking and raiding food supply lines, hoarding goods from its own people, using them as human shields, and then complaining to the world that Israel is causing starvation in Gaza.

[shell hemlock]

that emoji should be removed

[shell hemlock]

there is one fact though… palestinians death toll is much higher than that of the israelis…

soooo

[hoary glen]

Just like Nobu and Minecraft always say the same things, but there are always new Muslims responding to them.

[formal pilot]

Imagine if the account is based in india

[cerulean pivot]

We need this feature fr

[formal pilot]

No, i would get exposed

[cerulean pivot]

[iron dagger]

Ya think?

The war is IN Gaza. The Israeli military is highly advanced and strategic. So, yes, when you attack an area that has a higher population of one people versus another, then what do you think the statistics are going to show? Please use your brain a little.

[shell hemlock]

okay so many palestinians died compared to israelis so they are more powerful, which means they are using this power to kill innocent civilians

how can you overlook this and think it’s completely justifiable

[cerulean pivot]

" bbbbut they are hiding khamas in their pockets"

[fresh flower]

Gulp

Chat's not safe, evil Sanna is active

[shell hemlock]

maybe their heart made of stone or what

[iron dagger]

No. Every human life is sacred. I’m very sad about the loss of innocent life in Gaza. But stop blaming the Israelis who were defending their people and trying to rescue kidnapped hostages. The war was the fault of Hamas as was every innocent life that was taken.

[formal pilot]

Didn't idf kill multiple hostages, pathetic

[formal pilot]

They also like to wear random women's undergarments, that's pretty weird

[sick bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-flightreacts-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-gif-15614272518944102240

[iron dagger]

Because what started this war was that innocent civilians were butchered and kidnapped and held hostage. That’s an act of war. And the horrific actions of Hamas fully justify any and all aggressive actions on the part of Israel to bring their people home.

[cerulean pivot]

That's so antisomething

[shell hemlock]

“innocent people die in war” as a justifiable excuse, that is wild

[sick bronze]

That’s my antidepressant

[formal pilot]

Dond you dell me whad to do

[shell hemlock]

i’m gonna cry i read that in an accent

[cerulean pivot]

Everytime an Israeli tweet something i read it in this accent

[formal pilot]

Because that's your actual accent

[sick bronze]

The only nice move of Elon Musk on X was to reveal where you’ve registered from

[rain lava]

Drop @

[cerulean pivot]

She posts fanfic between countries

[iron dagger]

Human life is sacred. That doesn’t make me a pacifist. I will take any and all lethal action to defend those I love. And I have no problem with anything that Israel has done in Gaza because the justification for their actions is the release of the hostages and the destruction of a genocidal terrorist organization.

[cerulean pivot]

Middle aged women and their preferences

[hoary glen]

I suspect that the war caused them so much psychological stress that they did these strange things.

[rain lava]

Excuse me ☝🏻

[cerulean pivot]

Ptsd type shi

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Jorjor will

[shell hemlock]

i want to know, is punjabi a slur or just a term referring to a group of people

[hoary glen]

[cerulean pivot]

It's not a slur

[shell hemlock]

oh !!! good to know

[hoary glen]

So he was banned

[gloomy frost]

Wtf?

[hoary glen]

No wonder I didn't see him.

[gloomy frost]

[hoary glen]

Lmao

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

I'm chuckling at work

[rain lava]

Punjabi isnt a slur , but the slur words is ‘punjeet’

Please mod dont mute me im just stating statement

[hoary glen]

It's a real shame; I kind of miss the slogans he used to shout every day.

[gloomy frost]

[shell hemlock]

lol the fact that having these roles pretty much makes you immune to infractions basically sums up discord

[shell hemlock]

ohhhhhhhh ok that make sense ig i got confused

[hoary glen]

I don't know why you feel sorry for Minecraft.

[shell hemlock]

i would make a joke about the owner but i already got banned once bc of that so i won’t

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONNSSSS MY FRIEEEENDDDD

[hoary glen]

Because his purpose in coming here was to provoke others, Lmao

[shell hemlock]

where is abdul these days is he not gonna appeal

our muslim representative (not)

[hoary glen]

I hope he can return soon.

They are indispensable here.

[cerulean pivot]

My fyp got jewished

Stay safe y'all 🙏🏿

[hoary glen]

Recommendation Algorithm

[shell hemlock]

what the hell is goysplaining

laughing to myself in the taxi

[hoary glen]

Recommendation algorithms confine everyone to their own area.

[gloomy frost]

Okay bro, Let me What's religion without serching it up online.

I am asking you a simple question, What's religion?

[high rapids]

You mean the definition of religion?

[gloomy frost]

Ofc, what's religion.

[frosty hearth]

My mom is my religion

[gloomy frost]

Okay okay, Now now you do know what's religion, Why are you believing in it?

Though tell me did you ask chatgpt to write this?

What's the issue? I was just asking you questions as you clearly are a religious person.

[plain ruin]

Group of people
Punjab is a state in India

[magic olive]

Amen

[plain ruin]

You're better off with repeating the Anima Christi constantly than spouting nonsensical rhetoric 24/7

[gloomy frost]

No, I never said it's ai, I was just clarifying, You clearly are getting frustrated over nonsense.

[plain ruin]

Have no idea what Solvent is talking about
He's perpendicular to the main conversation at hand to begin with

[gloomy frost]

Good point, My bad, So let's go back to real question again, Why do you believe in religion?

[iron dagger]

I’m not promoting mass murder. I’m saying what I would do if someone came and harmed my family. That should be a normal response on the part of any rational person.

[plain ruin]

Clearly, you haven't learnt anything from Genesis 18 🙏

[manic juniper]

Any rational person turns irrational and wishes ill onto others just because they are going through a difficult time, lol

[iron dagger]

I’m not Catholic.

[manic juniper]

Definitely didn't happen to me and I'm not the most rational person out there

[plain ruin]

It doesn't matter, you barely seem to be Christian to begin with

[plain ruin]

Very true

[iron dagger]

What the heck does God visiting Abraham and giving the promise of Isaac have to do with anything?

[hoary glen]

I'd like to know your perspective on Arabs in Israel.

[plain ruin]

Clearly you didn't read the end of the chapter you goof

[iron dagger]

Then you don’t seem to know much about Christianity.

[plain ruin]

Hahaha, quite the opposite 😂

[iron dagger]

Maybe I should remind you of what Abraham did in Genesis 14.

[formal pilot]

Why "jew" tag has a dollar sign next to it

[manic juniper]

Not defeating the allegations

[plain ruin]

You're right, but that just shows the absurdity and lack of nuance of the book to begin with

But the fact that you're that so persistent to defend such actions with no regard to human life, this is what takes you away from the message of Christ.

[magic olive]

[cerulean pivot]

You can't borrow that

[hoary glen]

Isn't the strangest thing Trump in the background image?

[gloomy frost]

And Why do you believe in god?

[magic olive]

Refrain from typing that again (metaphorically or rhetorically or poetically or theoretically or any other fancy way)

[iron dagger]

So an atheist is trying to school a Messianic Jewish rabbi on his religion. Nice.

[plain ruin]

"Messianic Jewish Rabbi"

A Messianic Jewish Rabbi is also telling us that the normal reaction of people is collective punishment

[iron dagger]

Sorry, I’m a little confused. What exactly am I prohibited from typing?

What I would do if someone kidnapped my family?
Or the assertion that there are certain wars that are justifiable. Not being snarky. Honest question. Just want to be clear.

[iron dagger]

That’s not what I said. I said I would take any means necessary to ensure the safety and retrieval of my family and that I would see such actions as justifiable in self defense and defense of those I love.

[plain ruin]

Which in your definition, includes indirect justification of collateral damage

Fancy way to dance around collective punishment, not to mention this contradicts a lot of your statements, as I can see them

[fresh flower]

Second "Christian" to get excommunicated by Sanna💀

[magic olive]

I would slaughter whoever i had to etc..

I forgot the syntax

bruh

[iron dagger]

Ah, no problem. Thank you. Sorry for the hyperbole.

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[magic olive]

All good

[rotund urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/jew-jews-jewish-jump-happy-gif-1531468640197245258

[crisp garden]

is drama over ?

[magic olive]

Pass me some popcorn too

[plain ruin]

Just thought I'd leave this here @magic olive

[crisp garden]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-harry-steal-food-eating-popcorn-cute-baby-gif-11854311

[iron dagger]

The justification of collateral loss of life is the same justification for any war. War is horrific. But if the war is justified because the enemy has violated the basic principles of humanity, then the loss of collateral life is a tragic by product. And in war, lives are lost. Now, in the conflict, the mitigation for the loss of innocent life is absolutely necessary. But if it does occur, that does not qualify as a valid delegitimization of the war itself.

[gloomy frost]

Mate, Give me some as well.

[high rapids]

whats the problem

[gloomy frost]

Got clowns here.

[high rapids]

who?

[plain ruin]

Except Israel also has "advanced military technology" which could easily help focus on actual militant targets

Very old, very well known imagery and sensor technology, that Israel has access to, which are easily useable even with infantry weapons, would've told them that there was a child-sized person in a car, and it probably wouldn't be a good idea to fire, I don't know, 355 bullets

[gloomy frost]

Not you.

[high rapids]

i know

[plain ruin]

• Claim the other extremists are bad
• Using extremism to justify extremism
• "I'm a good extremist"

[crisp garden]

🍿 🍿 🍿
i should do a popcorn stall

[iron dagger]

Care to give me the source on the specific example you’re referring to?

[hoary glen]

Before the war, Israel didn't treat the Gaza people as human beings, confining them in a massive prison. So it's no wonder the Gaza people didn't treat Israel as human beings either.

[gloomy frost]

Okay bro

[gloomy frost]

at this point, Sure.

[iron dagger]

Bruh. You clearly don’t know history. Prior to 1967, under what government jurisdiction was Gaza? And if that was such a friendly and amicable relationship, why didn’t they open their border?

[crisp garden]

[iron dagger]

Also, you do know that between 2005 and 2023 there was not a single day that rockets and mortars were not fired across that border by Hamas?

[hoary glen]

Then why did Israel blockade the Gaza coastline as well?

This reminds me of Attack on Titan, where the young people of Gaza wondered what was on the other side of the wall, until one day they crossed it.

[iron dagger]

Oh, I don’t know, maybe because the people of Gaza elected a terrorist organization for government.

[cerulean pivot]

But they kidnapped an idf soldier from his tank 🥺

[high rapids]

Why are you called “I am Charlie Kirk” and why in Hebrew?

[cursive sphinx]

Lebanese cooking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1077424882247274557.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=cutetwerk

[cerulean pivot]

Gotta be may fav levantine race fr

[plain ruin]

I shouldn't need to 😂 The IDF redacted all their claims that they weren't in the area 😂
Without anything to show for it.
Here you go though:
US imagery of the area also has shown that Israeli forces indeed were there.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/hind-rajab-israel-gaza-killing-timeline/
Source of the image:
https://news.sky.com/story/im-so-scared-please-come-heartbreaking-final-moments-of-girl-5-killed-in-gaza-13229813

There's audio analysis of the rounds as well
https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/the-killing-of-hind-rajab

[high rapids]

Btw why is there no "Ask A Jew" Channel?

[cerulean pivot]

Wait is that his name

[high rapids]

yes

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah we should create one just for him

[high rapids]

true

[iron dagger]

Oaky, so lemme get this straight. Hamas crosses an international border, specifically targets innocent civilians, kills them, and then takes hostages back across the border, and you would prefer that Israel does absolutely nothing about it?

[cursive sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

[fast nimbus]

Looks like y'all got a lotta question lol

[plain ruin]

He must've not heard this banger either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14xmQLiYYuM

[iron dagger]

Thank you. I’ll take a closer look.

[manic juniper]

Halo 3

[hoary glen]

This is not a good reason.

[frozen cape]

Why are there still Christians around? Are they the bad ones who got left behind after the recent rapture?

[iron dagger]

No, I’m saying that Israel’s actions in the war do not constitute genocide and are justified on the grounds of Hamas’s actions on October 7th.

[slender coral]

Fr bro. It's just obvious bias against me because I'm critical to their faith.

[slender coral]

What's this?

[manic juniper]

It's probably comedic on purpose but it's a neo-nazi Belarusian simping on middle eastern woman

[high rapids]

Men you can put this guy in a chamber if you know what i meant to say

[hoary glen]

[cursive sphinx]

Even the jesus won't forgive you

[slender coral]

Israel's actions were genocidal so you basically think Oct 7th attacks justify genocide.

[hoary glen]

It's okay, if Jesus doesn't forgive me, Buddha will.

[high rapids]

The only reason anyone would say it is justified genocide is because they have no problem with it, as it is not their “people” and/or their "religion".

[hoary glen]

I have so many choices.

[frozen cape]

praise Kali

[glossy ether]

LMFAO whos the first

[plain ruin]

Nobu

[glossy ether]

bros hindu

[fresh flower]

Nobu bro 💀

[glossy ether]

have you all seen

[fresh flower]

Evil Sanna is dangerous, bro's even ignoring the verses she's sending💀

[plain ruin]

I've confirmed with sources which I can't state, that he's actually Christian bro

[glossy ether]

those israeli twiter accounts

that turned out to be indians

its so fucking funny

[fresh flower]

I saw it bro 💀💀💀💀

[glossy ether]

hahaahahahaha

[glossy ether]

BRO my feed is full of them

[plain ruin]

They use AI the same amount that Hussain does, and don't even get paid for it

[glossy ether]

😭😭😭😭

[hoary glen]

I wonder if the young people of Gaza have ever chanted similar slogans: What joy is there in life, what sorrow in death? Joy and sorrow, all return to dust.

[frozen cape]

if I see a top comment with absurd and unhinged takes I reply with "Sounds like another one of those Indian bots" 🫢

[glossy ether]

LOL

[fresh flower]

But when I do this I get called racist

[plain ruin]

<@&1373007728590458890> bro have you heard this banger growing up

[glossy ether]

GET OUT

[fresh flower]

Nah bro who deleted that comment 😭😭😭 @high raven

[plain ruin]

Be excellent in what is good 🥺
Be innocent 😇 of evil 😈

[fresh flower]

I didn't take a screenshot it was too good

[glossy ether]

wait which bro

[plain ruin]

Which one

[sick bronze]

Best feature since Elon bought Twitter

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭

[glossy ether]

LOLL

[marble seal]

most sane serious chat user

[plain ruin]

thoughts @glossy ether

[plain ruin]

That comment was like tear free shampoo, compared to what the other guy was saying

[glossy ether]

bro its so retarded

you have not seen the shit ive heard from that vc

ahahahahahahahaha

[gloomy frost]

Olivander you had a majestic ahh pfp in April of 2025 why did you change it?

[glossy ether]

its so fucking stupid

[fresh flower]

All they talk about is Islam bro💀

[glossy ether]

holy shit are you in love with him

[glossy ether]

literally bro

[fresh flower]

So the screenshots and allegations don't match

[glossy ether]

theyre more devoted to islam than the muslim mods

[gloomy frost]

No.

[gloomy frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1344972824405872696/1362436193622425610/405939648221675521.png

Like this pfp is cool ngl

[fresh flower]

Bro sent a virus

[glossy ether]

NOOO

OMG

LMFAOOOO

[glossy ether]

bro look at ts

[gloomy frost]

Nuh

[glossy ether]

😭😭😭😭

[fresh flower]

JOEYYYYY MY GOAT

[plain ruin]

Could you get Ed Sheeran to make a song bout it bro

[glossy ether]

THE GOAT

[gloomy frost]

the goat

[glossy ether]

ong i will

[gloomy frost]

You should give me image perms So I can send more peak.

[fresh flower]

"People ask me what God has done for me? Look at all this money"

[glossy ether]

“no xp” its so over😭😭😭

@magic olive free this guy

[fresh flower]

How did YOU get noxp role💀

[plain ruin]

Ngl deserved

[gloomy frost]

He ain't giving me the image perms for the 5th time.

[gloomy frost]

[glossy ether]

lemme see what u did

LMFAO

[gloomy frost]

I think It would be better if you just don't give me image perms rather than checking what I did.

[plain ruin]

What'd he do

[glossy ether]

what didnt he do

😭😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

Expected😭

[gloomy frost]

what did I do though? I forgot, and it's in the past, Forget and forgive (said this line for the 4th time)

[swift crest]

I think...it's supposed to be "forgive,never forget" 😭

[magic olive]

You’re a mod now bro

[glossy ether]

ur decision bro

[magic olive]

Aight bro

[swift crest]

Why don't you make me a mod?
I'll establish peace all over the server.

[magic olive]

I’ve read plenty of jokes today, i’m done for