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how can i get a fluent role , or test my english and get a role on my english
you need to apply
ticket?
yes in general support
I don't know. The pastor traveled to Mozambique this year but said he met this guy and he is from South Africa
can u # it?
i need to look up where Mozambique is
Why aren“t you travel there with him to find someone who can speaks his language?
we don't have that much money lol. we are from Brazil. I'll ask him when he's planning to go back there.
I know it was a dumb question, but if you can“t find someone who can translate or find the language somewhere i guess thats the best you can do
that's completely true! thank you.
May I ask why "he" is in brazil?
Could be Tsonga or Ronga
How did you come up with the idea?
It's two languages in Mozambique with few millions speakers each
thanks
and thanks for the unmute, I“m sorry for beeing a jerk to you
@thorny steeple why u have less roles than other moderator
The Administrator role is enough for everything.
Also, others deal with certain stuff that's why they're identified through those roles.
What is difference between adminstrator and moderator btw
Wh like golden keyboard?
Silver keyboard
Whait r u owner??
ohhh if you hadnt told me i would have been deprived of this knowledge , thank you......u have a beef with me or something?
Man, please do Google it you'll understand. I can't explain at the moment because I'm waking home and trying to chill from work.
No, it's Vivek.
It's for the people who keep a clean record or less trouble in this server. It's given for the people who are active in the chat, they have special access to a chat channel .
Is he Indian?
He is...
But it's english server!!
so?
Yeah, India has English as it's official language
cry bout it.
I didn't know it
Okay, good luck.
uh not really its associate
so? where r u from?
I mean the central government
but that's not important to his question
Mm it's says english and hindi are Indian lang
Anyone can be the owner of this server.
still no....after 1960 it was allowed to be used as an associate official language after hindi cuz south indians werent fluent in hindi
No matter the country.
yeah exactly
Yeah
as per that.
Neither northeast indians r
I ain't fluent in Hindi
Yea
yeah but the problem was raised by tamil people thats y i only mentioned that sorry
I didn't mean anything like tht
Yup
Yeah yeah 
So that's why u told me to cry about it
If you are aware that you should be aware bout the LTTE as well.
Do you know that?
bro first of all there is no indian language type...india has many langauges....its like you are saying americans have american language and brithish have british language
Yeah but a lot of them are kinda similar
Western Asia
Usually those types of questions rise up from racists, that's why I had to hit with that comment. But it's alright, if you didn't mean that. My apologies sire.
if u r asking me yes ik
You cannot make that comparison because there arent various āethnicā or āhomegrownā languages in the US like india
If there were
Then that actually wouldnāt be too far off since iād imagine theyād be similar
Mm mm
bruhhh americans and british people speak english only...the language is english u cant say they speak american or they speak british....thats accent if you mention that
Right , I agree with that
No no, he probably thought English Server owners would be only from the native countries that use English as their native.
No no it's alright don't apologise
dude are you serious....did you ever read political sciences before?
I think weāre saying the same thing
I have Indian frds and they are kind
thats kinda racist ...i am offended
sorry?
oh yeah ryt sorry
Like which place are you from ...
Okay.
indian
What's your native language?
Did you guys see the Tamil kid that claimed to speak like 40 languages get exposed
40 Languages š
Tongue twisters would get no way near him if that's the truth.
Send me the link Brutus.
hindi is my mother tongue ...but i am fluent or i take it as native in english...i am trying to learn telugu too
I review the video 'Can this guy REALLY speak 46 Languages?' by @AkramInstitute.
I also review related articles such as:
https://thebetterindia.com/400360/mahmood-akram-languages-youth-world-record-prodigy/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/laevildea
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EvildeaVlog
Discord: https://discord.gg/tPbQTtU2Zt
Maybe u recognize him apparently he was famous a bit inside India
I usually find everyone here Pakistani and so I thought owner is also pakistani but u said india so I was shocked btw
This is what he looks like
ohhh is that so
But if my curiosity triggered u in wrong way then my apologise brother @thorny steeple
You meant ānative-likeā in English thatās great. Keep it up, and I wish thee the very best.
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Yes almost everyone is pakistani
Nope discord doesn't trigger me. If it did there are certain ways to dodge it don't worry.
thank you ....yeah my bad i am tired af after 6 hrs of study
Me too
ohh i see
y r there suddenly so many lilyās around
Ah, no worry six hours of study would weary anyone. Rest your mind a bit.
U are the first one I'm talking to an Indian (in this server) !!
you are a coordinator here? where r u from?
tackle who?
It was typo
What is coordinator
oh yeahhh i am jst searching for a good playlist for this brek
ohhh no problem
Ah well for my country, it's a tangled tale.
I'm originally from Sri Lanka
I hope this is enough to fill the gaps of the conversation or questions.
as in oraganising and managing server
That is but a role, easily set aside when need be I hold it only for certain purposes.
"Coordinator in charge" talking bout that.
U are? Or its a explanation
We call those mods and admins not coordinators xd
is that the way itās said in hindi or sm
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humorous ...and sri lanka thats nice ....so like if am right you speak sinhal or tamil ?
i am not...i am explaining
Both but my Sinhala is a bit weak.
Same!!
i see nicee...tiresome?
Nope it's chill.
so like i dont remember correctly u must be from a tamil family whose ancestors migrated from india?
yeah
niceee
I used to be in telegram, and In telegram admins don't interact with ordinary people in groups, did uk tht @thorny steeple
Joined for learning english?
.
For this
my work is shit but otherwise life is good.
basic definition....i dont know what a coordinator does in discord....well then again thanks for the information
Is this ur own start up??!!
Iām mostly active on Discord, cuz my workās a mess. Iām chained to the computer, coding the life out of it, haha. tis a start-up struggle, so I canāt keep an average jobās hours on it.
oooh i seee
yeah i got it
Hey why did u delete it
I mean yeah, it is.
Hallo everyone
noo i think i am pretty good in english
All the best man š¤
niceeee
Oh no native ?
That's common for WhatsApp, Facebook and telegram. As well as apps like Signal...
yeah you can say that
That's good it will be good for me to learn from u
But not for discord or its tht only u who give values to every person!
ooh i am sorry i am not active all the time..i just sometimes come for poetry club
Poetry?
Like
yeah ...um i write as well as i recite poems..pretty good accent i guesss
As I said, tis a different case but yeah close something like that.
I hail from a Tamil family, though the tale of our roots is somewhat more tangled than a simple migration.
i seee
If that makes sense for ya āØ
ohh i get it ik tangled
yeah it does
Take thy care sire. ā¤ļø
I would u to share it with me !!
Discord ain't similar to those sire.
i dont share my poems...i mean atleast not yet
I'm not good at english to understand this š
But I think u are kind
It's just "Take care sir".
Ahhh sure sure
inspired by shakespeare ? thy thou
Oh okay!!
Ok u r cute too !!
yeahh sorryy....
whats that forrr?
More like semi-archaic
or early modern style.
um dude ig his pfp is not his picture...
You speak Arabic?
ooohh well first time met someone who speaks like that...usually i have seen that style in poetry or writings
I'd introduce you to someone who's good with old English.
@upbeat junco and @rose barn
One is good with etymology.
Nother one is good with English words...
Vocab at its peak...
yes sir
as well as the slang.
You're saying this based on my native š , as I said my roots are tangled very much. That one is a Gemini trend where you post your pictures and get mixed with ai and get the best out of it.
oooh nicee ...its commendable for reall to be expert in that requires lot of effort ..
Yeah.
Anyways, I'll explore some other parts of this server due to some reasons. Good'ay to ya.
Toodles.
based on nothing sir...i am just saying i have seen nobody here using their real pictures in discord
so from experience
Most of the People use it here...
DW
I met many who talked in VC.
and also it looked like a pinterest picture
ohhh nice ig
You wouldn't find anything to be honest like this but okay āØ
i have serious trust issues with everyone so dont mind
How do you say goodbye in hindi?
Understandable..
alvida..tho that has urdu origin
No i meant he is cute by tht sticker
šš» Alvida...
oooh
adios
I have a beef with the chatters in the other text channels.
ohh ....then would it hurt you to be nice to those who didnt piss you off sir
I wasn't nice? Sorry if I came across that way 
I'm just mad at the other channels
Because they are always like what I said.
apology accepted
WOW
yeah understandable

Who taught u man!!
Can u say this
Like what I say just repeat ok
Sometimes we can have a natter in Arabic through voice calls.
Oo
It's nice!
@thorny steeple
Hi
Hi
how are you?
Hru
im ok
Fine nd u
Well, and u?
everything is ok
why?
Idk
what is your philosophy ?
Live to live. There is no need to compete because in the end you will d1e
Rip Diaz
What
Hello
As a Lebanese
Fuck Lebanon

Is she saying sth wrong?
Basically she's encouraging women to stop wearing bras
Whatās ur problem with that? It has benefits as well as negative side effects.
True
And the one not liking this is a guy lmao
HAAHA TRUMP LOVES MAMDANI
What a plot twist
They had a meeting and trump said it was very productive and he thinks mamdani has a lot of good plans for new york
Conservatives in shambles
Are you wearing bra?
I mean guys If it's not something shameful
Dude theyre actually bros
Holy shit lol trump said u can ignore her to mamdani when a news reporter asked a pointed question
This is so good
No
Did olivander get banned
No wonder chats dead
They seem to remove the quality chatters from here
Gif spammers in general a - ok š
Damn
I guess I missed the juicy drama
Mamdani didnāt make any effort to gain Trumpās respect or approval, it's just Trump who may have changed his opinion
pookiesss
did u know that u can get 5 by 10/2?
His demeanor
Heās not weak , not a sycophant
Thatās literally enough
Trump likes strong men, like Xi and Putin
He sees Mamdani as an equal i believe
He has strong supporters as well ig
They actually share a voter base in NYC and of course Trumps from NYC
They agree on so much because both want better for NYC
Maybe cuz this is a āserious chatā
@true lark did you see this
Awww this is cute
I'm fine and thx for asking 
This is your biggest problem these days lmfao
i mean tbf i think we're allowed to say such things about our own countries
Hello
Yeah but, I wouldn't say that over a random woman on the internet saying women shouldn't wear bras.
why š¤
They are spreading the Shi
My country is fucked with this
also, why ?
So your biggest fear about Lebanon isn't the corruption, nor the political problems, nor Israeli occupation. Just women not wearing bras 
A corrupted society led to problems you said
People here are so chill to the point that they still find happiness during all the shit you just mentioned
Among all that, having fear about wake up seeing the nudity being something normal, is still valid
Corrupted? Many countries have the things that you see corruption as and are still ahead of you. You really don't realize your mess of a country problem? You are so divided to a ridiculously funny level. Your political structure is distributed among people based on their religious and secterian affliation lmfao
And you think some women wearing what they want is the problem.
That's the conservative MENA mentality basically.
@slender coral @cursive sphinx
What's going on
I come from a conservative family
So having these concerns is related to what I think about how the society should be
In Egypt you don't find LGBTQ protesters or
Women demanding nudity
Marshall thinks the problem with Lebanon is women on social media saying they don't wanna wear bras.
how does one wake up everyday and find every little crevices and crack to bring up the religion that they hate very much in every conversation
I never mentioned any religion. This deficit in intellect woman doesn't know what she is talking about 
Yeah, you don't find that. And our situation is still shitty.
Still better than ours
They don't want to wear bras? I didn't get it, they want to be naked or wht
Free the nipples
It's better than yours because our political system and society are less divided than yours.
whoa i'm out of the loop haha
You live in turmoil because you can't tolerate each other.
Dictatorship
You can't deny that it can control people
egypt doesnāt have divided political and societal system ? 
where are thou from friend
Dictatorship is bad, and it's why our situation is bad. But there's nuance and it certainly offers better outcomes than a system where power is distributed based on religious affliation.
Lebanon women on social media saying they don't want to wear bras ???
When the islamic party came and gave you freedom your people appeared on their reality
Good that you qoute me. I stand by what I said.
You guys want to be under the dictatorship
feminism women movement š¤£š¤£š¤£
You don't deserve freedom
What was the topic about
The Ikhwan tried to turn the country into an Islamic dictatorship.
about him complaining about being an ex muslim in egypt or wtv
Devil is ex muslim?!!
imagine being so mad that people have beliefs on something that you donāt agree that u gotta wake up and yap about it 24/7
Sheikh Abdullah Saeed how many wives you got ?
calling me a intellect deficit woman just because i am not a feminist š¤£
right now only one akhi tomorrow finding new
No. Called you that because you claimed women are inherently emotional and intellectually deficit. You are a liar.
Pathetic performance, your ancestors would be disappointed
why you blaming me, i need 3 new arranged marriages within a month now
Abdullah Saeed is a Woman herself btw š
So people chose them and you now saying that they wanted a dictatorship
After what the military does you guys deserve that
I know lol
That's why I called her that. When you believe that about yourself, then it's fair for people to label you as such.
guy is a lost cause, heās leaning to the extreme far right because heās an ex muslim whoās a rebellion against the religion basically
he wanna do anything that is the complete opposite of the religion to prove something for validation* guess
I'm a rightist now 
@plain ruin @turbid dome
You can't change his opinions Lily

ALLAHUUU AKBAR
@shell hemlock I don't think he was ever muslim tho
ask him
He's ex Muslim isn't he
Devil's Egyptian
Maybe he is pretending
makes the circumstances even more ironic
He has far too much knowledge this ain't possible 
@slender coral what made u leave islam
guy think heās very different from others when heās like a copy paste by a printer machine
Haha
Devil thinks cornstars should be left unbothered about their past and treated as if nothing happened
After they decide to change their life and quit**
Let me see what he knows
I thought you had him blocked 
Nothing really proves the validity of the faith. All what I see for it are arguments with false premises and bad logic.
The "scientific miracles" in Islam, the "eloquence miracles", the "numerical miracles", I went over all of that.
ex muslim usually have the common characteristic ideologies of turning extreme feminist > pro lgbtq > anti muslim
Do you think Allah will forgive them if they change their lives and ask for forgiveness?
heās insulting me so lol gotta give him a lil bit of attention cuz he is starving everyday like n*bu is
Don't forget about past cornstarry. I still remember when LilyHru said women are emotional and intellectually deficit.
And she argued for that with Karrin V2 and Ain.
preferring to not argue with women equals me calling women emotional and intellectually lacking i guess, whatever suits your opinion of me as a muslim

every opinion i have will always be associated with me being muslim because why ? you hate them lol
Friendly fire
Fr
@rapid lark is a Muslim and he is my friend. It's your dumb opinions and disrespectful bratty behavior that makes me not have respect for you, not your faith.
You aren't a victim bruh.
Youāre claiming the entire faith is invalid because u personally werenāt convinced by the arguments u found That isnāt a logical conclusion. It only shows the limits of ur own research not the limits of the religion
You listed scientific miracles eloquence and numerical claims as if those are the foundations of Islam
Theyāre not. Islamās core is tawhid
the message the consistency of revelation the preservation of the Quran and the historical reliability of the Prophetās life
@shell hemlock I was right he is not ex muslim
donāt ask for respect when youāve never given it
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maybe he need to check himself because i never wanted problems
You still fail to distinguish between respect for people and respect for beliefs
Maybe he went to ask ai to get some help
You called me a far right winger when I'm one of the most liberal folk here š
Guys who is Abdullah saeed Mohammad
random arab name i typed in lol
anyw thatās my last acknowledgement to him i will continue to not bother debating stuff in here
I'm personally not convinced not because of personal preferences but because as I literally said "arguments with false premises and bad logic".
The things I mentioned are the things cited often.
Specially with him, it is waste of time
Hasan the Indian bangers guy 
But what you mean that she's a victim
He is a nice fella although a bit freeky lol
She is claiming that I criticize and make fun of her just for being a Muslim not because her views.
So, that's basically a victim card.
If the arguments r false premises and bad logic then name one. The points u mentioned arenāt the core of Islam. Show a specific flaw in the actual foundations not in weak arguments u saw online
If her views based on her religion then she's right
I mean I can bring you a Muslim who believes that women shouldn't wear hijab, you aren't gonna hate him ofc, but he is just a Muslim by name
The weak argument I saw online? Take one of the things I mentioned for example, the scientific miracles, a scholar such as Mohamed Mitwalli al-Sharawi argued for it in his book The Miracle of The Quran. You really don't know what you are talking about.
Some things I attribute to Islam based on what the texts say. Of course everyone has their own views about what religious texts mean, we can argue civilly about it any time. But personally, just like anyone out there I have my views on religion but instead of having positive ones like the ones religious people hold toward their religion, I have negative ones.
Sharawi discussing scientific miracles doesnāt make them the foundation of Islam Even scholars can explore secondary topics without calling them core evidence
I asked for a flaw in the actual fundamentals Quranās message tawhid prophecy preservation
And I never claimed they are core evidence, I mentioned them because it's the most thing you guys cite both irl and online.
And even in scholarly circles.
Citing a side argument from a scholar doesnāt prove ur conclusion
But of course you'd avoid having a discussion about anything and try to jump to the conclusion that I'm a "fake ex-Muslim" 
Arguably, you are a feminist, but not a misandrist
I don't think she's completely aware on what "rightist" means
I think nowadays, some people conflate the "right-wing" with extremism
She literally said before and repeated it here that she wouldn't argue with women because they are emotional, during a conversation where the topic was how her freaky misogynistic prophet said women are deficit intellectually and religiously.
u brought those arguments up yourself and used them to justify leaving Islam so itās fair to ask for something deeper. If theyāre not core evidence then give a flaw in the core
And she expects me to take her seriously 
And nobodyās avoiding discussion Iām asking for a specific point If u canāt give one, thatās on you, not on me
It's not about this. It's about escaping addressing my criticisms by labelling me as right wing.
Dude you just said it
"Religious ones"
It's only one way
You either choose to be religious or just quit it like you did
You aren't asking for shit, you directly got here mid conversation and started accusing me of dishonesty just because I criticize Islam.
But hey, I'm willing to move on. Present your argument on Tawhid if you wish to as well.
Hmmmm, I'll give you my opinion
I would sort of agree with her comment (I'm not sure what she exactly means when she's saying it though), women are more emotional in general, and that also involves good emotions such as empathy. I wouldn't say "women are emotional" is necessarily wrong, because their empathy and good emotions have contributed a lot to humanity as a whole.
I wouldn't say that they're "intellectually deficient" though, back then they were forced to be
In an unrestricted society, they're on par with men, whereas men imo are "emotionally deficient/numb to emotion", though I don't know how much it's society vs biology
Nobody accused u for criticizing Islam I asked for specifics because you made big claims without evidence and u said Islam has āfalse premises and bad logic so show one
u asked for tawhid? Fine Tawhid is the claim that there is one God absolute and unique. If u think that premise is false state why If u canāt, then youāre just shifting the discussion
I understand but y'know, one of us is right at the end of the day. It's either you as a Muslim are right and Allah is up there and he isn't a merciful all-knowing being in contrast to what I claim, or I'm simply right. I just was trying to approach the disagreement humbly by not presenting it from my perspective.
But not wanting to engage for the sake of being a woman, that's a bad take, each person should be evaluated on their own
Whether men or women, anyone who's too emotional, isn't worth debating with
Oh right, either way, I don't know how anyone could claim that has anything to do with the right-wing
It may have to do something with the christian right-wing, but even liberal westerners criticise islam
Yeah it's terrible. And it was the reason she cited when she was talking to a group of women here, for why she didn't wanna engage with them. That's why I'm holding it over her head.
Problem is, she like many Muslims out there can't distinguish between criticizing Islam and hating Muslims.
I know what Tawhid is, I just want to get your pov so you don't claim I'm strawmaning the argument. What makes you so sure there must be one god?
The point isnāt there must be one god The point is if a creator exists multiple gods create contradictions
If two or more gods had independent power they could disagree. If they can disagree, the universe couldnāt stay consistent Reality wouldnāt be orderly or stable
One will one source, one authority avoids that contradiction
Thatās the logic behind tawhid
Yeah, fair criticism
It boils down to there must be one god. You are claiming that if a creator exists multiple gods create contradictions, and therefor there must be one god. Am I missing something?
I think atleast among the average working class individual, this is caused by the american far-right
People who are made to be victims/constantly criticize get that cognitive dissonance/inabililty to distinguish/get defensive
Kinda like BPD/NPD
I don't entirely blame them for that
Politics nowadays... Just sucks
She is just inconsistent. Here she claims " heās leaning to the extreme far right because heās an ex muslim"
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And here she says "ex muslim usually have the common characteristic ideologies of turning extreme feminist > pro lgbtq > anti muslim"
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She doesn't know what she is talking about and it isn't deeper than that.
Yeah u missed it Iām not saying one god just cuz If there were many their power would clash and the universe wouldnāt run this clean
You turned the point into something way simpler than what I actually said
Ok, elaborate then.
When she claimed women are emotional and intellectually deficit, she was projecting.
Yeah for the far-right thing, she doesn't know what she means, but the other statement, that's fairly true for the average ex muslim imo
Not knowing is ok. But throwing terms around without being aware of what they mean is problematic.
Umm fine. If two gods have real power what happens when they want different outcomes? One wins, one loses If one can be overpowered then that one isnāt a god in the first place
So u canāt have many gods with equal power The idea breaks itself
a feminist at heart but not in title, thatās what i prefer
Oh yeah, definitely but that's where it gets deeper, she doesn't know the meaning because of the conflation due to politics
Gtg
I completely blame politicians for the screwed up way that words are misused
And for sowing further hatred
Not all of us are westerners so of course we don't know how things in the west work exactly, but he rhetoric which is common among Muslim fundamentalists revolves around painting any opposition as a bad thing and that's just it, it doesn't need to make sense for them.
you throw around the term intellectual deficit as well, i never referred to women as that but⦠okay
I think feminists need to reclaim the word "feminism" and separate it from the viral social media misandrists
Both the words are very important in meaning, I hate political conflation of words, because true feminism isn't "hating men"
i said women are more prone to being emotional when it comes to arguments which leads them to throwing personal attacks and insults, here i am using the example of when i said i am not a feminist
with what the community are preaching rn iād rather not be affiliated
Hmmm, I wouldn't know
Most of the muslims I've talked to are liberal/khaleeji/indian, and not levantine fundamentalists which would be more extreme than khaleeji/indian subcontinent ones, atleast culturally, imo
@slender coral
Yeah, I get what you mean
I think the community itself needs to solve its PR crisis and change labels
yesterday some girl in feminism vc said itās not necessary to disclose to your partner that you have a sexual transmitted disease š
šššš WHAT
and she claims to be a nurse as well, which is even more concerning
It's over for some places in the world
She ain't real
You didn't, but you said that arguing with some women means you need to be patient because they are emotional when they were talking about that Hadith where Mohamed labelled women with that.
They have their differences but many of them are unified on considering any criticism toward Islam a disastrous thing, and consequently hating ex-Muslims.
Why would they need to overpower each other to begin with? Each one could operate on an entirely different level than the other.
Also, we are speaking about thing in a supernatural dimension so why not assume there's some sort of a supernatural harmony between them? Humans can cooperate for a long time in harmony without a leader, that works in small groups, so why should we say it's impossible to the creators of the universe themselves?
Yeah the average fundamentalist is like that
I don't know about "disastrous thing", but in my opinion they take it personally, as if they themselves have been insulted
Hatred for ex-muslims varies on a socio-economic basis depending on the region and culture, lot of variance there from what I've seen
That's what they consider it a disastrous thing, they'd be so friggin mad at criticism like it would end the world or something. They literally sometimes say it, that if they let atheists roam around freely in their societies god would punish them.
Fair enough, they do conflate atheists with liberals
Although
Actually nvm
That wouldn't have made sense
I think the blame still ultimately goes to politicians
Especially between the abrahamic faiths, each side's "best representative" insinuates the the other 2 are out to get them, and vice-versa
Some 30+ years ago, I would say the gulf was more liberal in terms of religion, than it is now
(Excluding Saudi)
i said that because a feminist was throwing personal attacks at someone they were arguing with
you will always find a reason to blame me i guess like the time i stated my opinion and you said āthe muslim opinionā yep
never hated you or anything but it seems you have some internal conflict with yourself so should get that checked
Internal conflict with myself you say, I'm not the one who thinks their gender identity implies being emotional and unreasonable.
"the Muslim opinion" bit is something even some Muslims would accept, because certainly fundamentalists put your reputation in the mud.
And you reflect their opinions and attitudes often
so i wasnāt wrong lmao*
just proved to me even more abt why you pick my opinions and choose to hate on it
because i am muslim, there
u: or a:
You aren't the only person I criticized here
itās muu slim
And not only Muslims get criticized by me
@plain ruin is this or is this not the same thing i was implying, youāre the mediator* here
I believe it would be greatly hypocritical to not acknowledge that I was wrong, so yeah I apologize for that comment.
Both your arguments have merit, there's an aspect where "muslim opinions" aren't entirely derived from the quraan/hadith but from culture/being taught things
There's some opinions that are "Muslim opinions" (Opinions by muslims can be affected by culture) but not necessarily "Islamic opinions" (Some preachers/dai'sts/etc. will explain things, and state that some interpretations are twisted by culture, so "Muslim Opinion" may not necessarily be "islamic")
I want to say I read the convo where devil said "the muslim opinion", but it seems like our dear Mr S deleted his messages
I can't tell you any more than that in general though
I think it was Abdulah? My reply was to something very bad and I don't remember what happened.
Idk who deleted messages, but you pinged Mr S, so its possible someone else was involved
I have no idea what "opinion" was talked about
The conversation before that also has Sanna commenting on Mr S deleting his messages
Maybe killing Israeli civilian and children, but I'm just guessing so Idk.
Wtf
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@coral belfry how is that a "should we report him" moment ššš
Ngl I should start reporting people
Is LilyHru a fundamentalist or what's her deal exactly? I remember she didn't object to Flare's points in support of the apostasy death penalty.
Time to remove the guy's name from my messages, I fear he looks up his own username at this point
Can I ask you what was the Al-Zutt night
I think she's trying to be on the moderate side,
she seems to not want to align herself with either conservatives/right-wingers or liberals/leftists
But also not go completely against either side either
It was an encounter where Mohamed exorcised a group of devils. Some Christians today interpret it as a sexual encounter with real physical people.
As usual
Okey. I understand mashallah
I had to do a double take
For a second I thought Nobu would try to get an alt and also attempt to change his texting style
Wait a minute
Y'know, some Muslims who identify as moderates still agree with the apostasy death penalty or at the very least some form of restriction on freedom of speech. That's what we go through in Muslim majority countries 
I'm now 50/50 on this.
Oh yeah, this I'm very aware of
But they'd be saying they support it out of fear in general rather than "belief"
Atleast in general, right?
Either way, bad, but it demonstrates some amount of critical thinking
I think that the amount of people who "fear" talking about belief are increasing
Though we can't really quantify that
A lot of families/societies are scary
Well, my dad told me apostates are ought to be killed and atheists don't deserve to be treated humanely so there's that. He isn't an ISIS supporter or anything he is just the average man, maybe even better because he doesn't adapt misogynist views and opposes infighting between Muslims (Shi'is vs Sufis vs Sunnis, Asharis vs Atharis, that kind of thing).
The Hadith is simply there so no matter how moderate you are, it's difficult to deny it.
I just wonder, how many people teach their [child/family members] that out of fear themselves, so that the person they're "teaching" doesn't go about saying something that'll put all of them at risk
We'll never really have a way to quantify it as such though. But I do have the lingering thought, every now and then
don't let him kill me pls š„²
People deny hadiths that are sahih all the time or claim that it could be upto more interpretation
To my knowledge, hadith grading is moreso about "Yes this thing was most likely said (lets exclude that being "honourable" doesn't mean the narrator is telling the truth)", is that right?
Oh, I see what you mean. Well even if that's the case, just planting this hate in people would not have good results. My mom dislikes Christians for example, but she wouldn't go kill them or agree on killing them. But just telling her child in his formative years that they smell bad and that he should avoid them all of that plants something in him that can turn him into an extremist when he grows up.
Atheists doesnāt need anyone from treating them differently
If they do believe kill atheist is their way of winning the war, try then
I believe our J-20 with nuclear weapons will ring them a huge fucking bell
same guy btw
Gaza is the front fight against terrorism
Already tried with people fearing others would treat them very seriously like an enemy by their religious allegiance or other piece of shit they really believe world works as what they think
Yeah agreed, I wonder what your opinions are, on the moderates who say stuff out of fear
Because most of the families I've talked to, from my time in Kuwait, were on the more liberal side, I've seen harsh families (albeit not as fundamental is conservative arabs) and I've even seen liberal families
Thatās a piece of shit mind to apply that everywhere, and it was a recognition struggle ideological struggle
I so need to get some mass storage running and get vencordš
Then only way we bring the common sense and rule back was eliminate such leftism sympathy-based loser ideology and promote development, authoritarianism, anti-terrorism
I guess you can guess what I think about them, I dislike them anyway and blame their religion for their views and behavior.
Your fucking sympathy seeking project can save you no where from stopping a 7.62mm bullet come through
Hail State of Israel, Hail the War on Terror
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The communists tried that in many places around the world before, it failed miserably.
Tens of millions of your people starved to death because of authoritarianism before.
So ultimately its more about what they express
Fair
I do think that having the objections/wanting to have a conversation even if its not expressed, is still "in the right direction"
Bad analogy, I but think of it as an addict
It's hard and potentially harmful to "quit" cold-turkey. And I think this applies to all extremism.
Oh they donāt promote that shit very much do me a favor on that also they simply diverted their way pf achieving communism than achieving totalitarian control under old institutions
Donāt even say Soviets are communists, they are a shame of communism
I aināt saying anything that totalitarian control is bad and in fact it was damn hell efficient but they use it apply on an old ass institution which makes them less credible on ideological struggle as well as their development progress got halted greatly
In marxism ideology in what institution and system brings the maximum production output which is more advanced, none about the distribution is related in this shit
Communism was more about distribution rather than production, in terms of production capitalism was the most productive system ever to be exist
But it has cost and problems, the most significant one was differences on wealth distribution aināt gonna say how bad that was which 2% of the people controls 98% of the wealth but if you get rid of the free market which prevent this from happening, the advocacy to achieve a greater economic output is closed and opportunity of getting rich is closed, therefore nobody would risk their fucking money and debt themselves to create businesses
But if you donāt get rid of the free market, this will continue to happen until regular people can no more foot their bill anymore and going debt interest cycle long over time until inflation and economic recession fuck their ass
First time I've seen you say something contrary to popular western belief
Then you didnāt see very much about what I am used to illustrate
Isfrun knows more I believe
I mean, most of the time you're talking about liberals
This is the first time I'm seeing you say something that both western liberals and conservatives would disagree with you on
Actually nevermind, your morality opinions would also fit that
I barely give a fuck about how people would think my opinion
smarter guys just need a sign, but stupid ass even if you gave him a full class he will ignore it and say fuck you anyway
that's quite true
I'm aware, I'm just trying to figure out you as a whole, because on one hand you say "Support who is in power", which would be the US, but the US as a whole generally loves the free market
So that tells me that you're not entirely in support of opinions of people in power
yeah I'm in favor with the free market a little bit more cuz I don't care how poors is going to live in this world
I'm a fucking middle class and going to be a rich finally why would I give a shit how they gonna live
Replay the game weee
they just keep their struggle to live and spend their time in factories as cheap labor is what all we wanted
but problems exist
But you also expressed opinions against the free market too
(Actually that seems like a pretty objective outcome though)
I'm in favor with the limited free market but I'm pro a little bit free
Fair enough
by limitations we put on certain industries to make a monopoly and use government forces to control them and make them work for the military only
so in case of the demand this won't be controlled by adversary forces and you use these to crash every opposition
I'm still pro-totalitarianism but embrace free market to achieve it is very necessary
I'm a man of objectiveness
ty pretty delicious as I can see but he don't have very much meat to eat that's too bad
So you're in favour of limiting the free market in a way that:
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Promotes growth/development in a way that effects everyone (Such as China's war on air pollution, their quick development and implementation of new battery/electric technology)
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Not allowing companies to lobby in a way that can slow down/undermine positive growth
So basically limiting the free market in a way that helps all people, instead of helping only "poor" people
basically yes, and use this free market as a weapon to fight against enemies
Got it, makes sense
you need abundant resources in a war that has no doubt I would say US system of printing money/use free market to allocate resources/fight war/seize benefit model was quite successful
the only bad thing they didn't do was establish direct control over their controlled territories
for me I would expand the United States of America to become the United States of World
they don't need any freaking interventionism anymore all they need was take control, eliminate every enemy
I do remember they had a law made definition of "unincorporated territories" which makes them legally treat these people differently and even discriminately
don't say I'm speaking German in this case, this is the active law of the United States of America šŗšø
I see.
Will there be a day in the future where you think this isn't what you would do?
that might happen, in 2021 when my business got shut down by Xi Jinping I say fuck Xi Jinping and Chinese government
until I calm the fuck down
and I know he's doing good for all people besides fucking my business class
ain't gonna blame him that has no use but find another one
How long will he live? š

wsg guys
Hello everyone
rdr2 weeee
yo wsp
yk what , I just texted on the wrong channel,this one seems like for advance learners lol
- God is an infinite being.
- Therefore all things are attributes of God.
q.e.d.
close to = near? when you are talking about locations, no relationships
Youāre patching contradictions with more assumptions
If gods are on different levels then the lower one isnāt a god If they need supernatural harmony to avoid conflict, thatās just imagining whatever fixes the problem.
A system that requires extra made-up conditions to work is already weak One will is simpler and doesnāt need rescue assumptions
@severe tinsel
How did u add tht sticker on ur thoughts
Generally, "Close to" implies more closeness than "near"
It can depends on the sentence as a whole though
My race is also an infinite being
No, its not. 
it is
*a non-infinite being.
You're Indian
religion mention
Wtf is an infinite being
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Someone explain what's a finite being
just follow god path
We wonāt go to hell in afterlife
That doesn't answer the question
God created universe
Is this right answer
I didn't ask who created the universe or what path to follow or who'd go to hell in the afterlife, I asked what an infinite being is
God created infinite beings
You're allowed to say "I don't know"
i know i have been to heaven
They're mentally unstable.
Great, good on you, still doesn't answer the question lol
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???
It's a monkey
so what is hell a infinte being
I thought it was a Polar Bear.
Nope
Thanks for correcting me!
Not necessarily advanced. It's for people who wanna talk about controversial stuff.
This dog is too skinny, there's no meat on it, it won't taste good.

No god needs to be in a different level, say for example a god that handles time and one that handles space, what conflict could arise from this arrangement? I'm not saying that I believe in that, I'm asking can you deny that possibility?
I'd argue that the whole concept of god is there to fill a hole in our knowledge, we don't know how the universe came to existence exactly and with that theists claim our lack of knowledge is evidence for a personal god who must've been the cause.
Ultimate
You don't have to call it conservative, cuz looks like a good term for them while it is not
Why?
Why not since they are not yours
@slender coral
They think being called conservative is a good thing and something to be proud of.

YOU are goddamn genius š¤£
Let them be. You can't fix everyone's wrong beliefs.
Can't I mean
Typo
I don't concern myself with their beliefs, however it is sad that women are still subjected to such things
The world is healing from it though. It's a slow non-linear process, but it's happening. I myself was raised as a religious conservative but left that behind.
It's not about religion. It's more about traditions and societyās mentality
I think
It's tied to religion in one way or another often, but yeah the base for it is the conservative mentality.
Oh wow they're so friendly haha, introducing two horses to eachother doesn't go this well most of the time
Hy
IDF is going to solve that issue
**HAIL ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES š®š± **
Current Israeli leaders are conservative lol
bruhh he got potential that be a revolutionary in egypt and take down islamic institutions
and establish pharaohs of Egypt Republic
Doubt it truly wild horse. Most likely this is some kind of horse kennel. Like Russian I know this horse.
Gods wouldn't behave like humans either, I don't understand why people assume they'd have conflicts instead of cooperating or sticking to their domain
Also Ukraine lol, does they have those horse
They exist from the Pontic steppes to Mongolia
It's very widespread, used to be even more widespread in the past
It's an assumption to reach a predetermined conclusion.
It's the only wild horse left
Look at the mane and crest, plus the body proportions, they are conservative compared to any horse in existence, and genetically it's a distinct lineage from domestic horses
I sure when I was at school those horse don't stay at wild nature. Doubt something change since I was at school
They made more recent discoveries and found out it's a wild lineage, previously there was a debate over these horses being a distinct lineage that was domesticated long ago and became feral again, or a semidomestic horse
Also no idea what it do at Ukrainne in wild š¤Ŗ
But recently they confirmed that it's wild, with possibly another domestic horse lineage stemming from it and being framed in Mongolia but went extinct
They expanded as far as Belarus
They're from Central Asia and Mongolia originally but it is expanding elsewhere
again bro is not a cute anime girl.
lets get e merried
will u accept this e-ring š
nahh that is boring as hell
do u prefer the real thing
ofc
in sickness and in health.
through happiness and sadness.
for richer for poorer.
till death do us part
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i take it seriously, since this is serious chat
I wanna buy these games now
Our beautiful Wheel, wedged upon the rocks, a casualty ofthe massive Serpent of the sea. But even shattered, its presence is still comforting Adrien and Gabriel are doing their best to sustain morale, but with no food, no clean water, no way to fix the Wheel our fate is quite clear, To me, at least. But I have no desire to hold back the hopes of others. Perhaps. Perhaps we will find a way back.
Still, 'These moments of quiet, sitting on the beach, are also a source of contentment. All our lives we've been running, trying to outrace time. Trying to reach an unreachable goal. And now we can finally rest. At least we got to see some of the wonders of this world Even the Serpent, cruel as it is, has a deadly elegance that is mesmerising.
But oh, what other marvels might we have seen had we been able to keep rolling! I sometimes wonder what it would have been like to grow up outside the Dome. Perhaps even live amongst the Monsters. Could we have achieved a form of peace? Or even prospered alongside them?
guys , could you read this passage easily?
does it count an easy english article
hello lily!!
Good essay, you could go to Princeton University
hmm i m curious is that hard to read
ok lets go make e-babies
i dont think these never existed
Why you playing ps games on pc, go play call of duty
For richer only
but hes not rich
He is not the one then
@hidden shore ok lets divorce
i finished them all , boring tho
this essay from a very very popular game recently
and i cant understand it at all
okay
the most popular game this year
which game
you would regret to miss it
take a guess , it should be the top 1 TGA jrpg game this year
i see you dont know that game, Expedition 33
i know it but not my interesting
sorry for the interruption , the e baby topic is interesting
i am single too
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People worship altar twelve gods
@rotund valley why you add me?
i am a dude
where are you from
i knew it
south asia they often have these mental diseases

you are a Muslim? Pakistan boy
He thinks you are a girl lmao
they often want to have sexual with both genders
many of them i guess

Get the fuck out here and never come back
He is the engineer of giving blowjo..
My sister is 10 you stupid pdo
why are they mamdani and trump friends now
Why doesn't it wonder me
Donald Trump helped New York mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani evade a question probing him on calling the president a fascist after a meeting that Trump said was 'great'.
Trump and Mamdani said that their meeting was focused on their shared love for the city of New York and not 'places of disagreement'
US politics: latest updates
"Why nobody likes us"
then why were they talkin shit abt each other before
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Charade in what sense though? You were expecting them to have a fist fight?
"You're not that slow" 
I mean, politics everywhere is a mess, but I could see why they wouldn't be visibly angry at each other, after all being diplomatic is an essential part of being a politician.
I have a rule for VCs, when things get heated, leave.
Not productive to talk to someone yelling.
Free your nipples dude
Who tf minded your nipples
Not gold
It's a trivial matter I think, both opposing and advocating for it.
may i join /j
@cursive sphinx LilyHru distracted me with how she shifted the topic to Islam, I still really wonder how you think women not being modest is the problem of Lebanon. As I said before, there are plenty of countries that are even more secular than Lebanon and they are doing well.
literally just came here

Marshall shared a video of a Lebanese woman who said women should not wear bras and somehow for him that's the problem with Lebanon.

Now you are jumping to assumption. I was referring to a conversation I was having earlier with Marshall about Lebanon and MENA conservatism and she came in the middle of it and made it about Islam somehow.
Ok
But it's not about her being a Muslim this time, that's for sure.
@shell hemlock he is not targeting you because you are muslim
it's just gonna get better since i have a conveniently placed arab muslim nickname now 
don't make me send screenshots again...
Your screenshot is useless
the more you're trying to prove you're not, the more you make me distrust you more lol especially since i just sent 1 text and suddenly "lilyhru distracted me with ..."
Habibi
always tryna blame me for everything 
Bro he just want to express himself let him do islam gives him freedom to choose whatever he wants and I know him he don't hate muslims
NOT THIS
hey , can I get ur pfp?
he does hate me though, even if not necessarily muslim inidividuals that's fo sho
abdullah saeed mohammed š
I find you annoying but I don't hate you lol

Not this fallacy mess all over again
hey is it immoral to wipe yo ahh with leafs and not toilet paper cuz you are technically ruining the environment ??????!!!!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Madagascars economy, idk
Neither, just don't use anything
oh cool
the second line was Israel
They fixed it two days ago, I'm very satisfied. What about yours
no idea if they would hook up someday
May it never be cut, may Perun fix it if it ever happened
Svarog would be even better
What's your usual speed
200 to 270 MB/s, the peak is 312 MB/s
Wouldn't have been as bad if I hadn't lost my "unlimited" mobile data as well
What do you think about it? Is it impressive or just right ?
What is it
that's quite fast anyway in here it's usually between 50-100MB/s
It's impressive compared to what I had before
and it was the fastest I ever seen in Korea it went 500MB/s
Same dude I have 50 Mbps 
ofc you can improve it in here but sure it cost you some money
If you didn't care why would you bring such a topic to the table and start complaining about it. Now, cover yours and pfff
probably per subscription 40 USD/month
Yeah you can get 1000 Mbps but it is super costly
and you can enjoy like 300-400 MB/s
Is it only sold there
1000 Mbps was already extremely good but having better was going to happen sooner or later
we already had that for a very long time ago but we don't really pay that shit for just the speed
Why would someone even need 300 Mbps
@manic juniper
I can't think in what cases you need this besides download videos
You mean MB/s
I'm speaking in MB/s because it's 2.5 Gbps
Yeah megabytes per second
well I ever experience that you don't understand how it was that damn fast
DUDE ššš
It's useful because some sites have next to uncapped speed
and it is damn fast but I don't download too much stuff so basically doesn't need it
You have 2.5 gigabytes per second?
you could improve it to 5
Is Mbps and MB/s different guys
it is indeed different
You can't understand the feeling of sending 64 download requests at once for many times in a row, something like 10 times 64 requests and it's great to have all these songs ready in minutes
1 Gbps was around 150-200 MB/s if I remember
whoaaa
it was like that anyway I forgot why would we need this piece of shit
but I don't download too much stuff cuz it's unnecessary to do that
but what cases you need that crap
That would be insane
The peak is 312,5 MB per second, but in reality it's usually around 240 MB
Is 1 Gbps giga bits per second?
Yes
Ahh
not too high we can make it higher if you had enough money
are you Chinese?
I do it all the times to mass download songs and games
So you have 300 megabytes per second right @manic juniper
or just put yourself in between these wires and try to get better on that
yeah
At peak
do you know danmei?
Impressive lmao
I never download any songs but games I only play a few games sometimes anyway
I don't usually download it over and over again
Unfortunately I only like water, milk and almond milk
nah what was that piece of shit
what? š
fuck apple input system
do you like xianxia/wuxia?
WTF YOU ARE SAYING DUDE
I don't even know what the fuck was that
.. bb... but... you said you're from China...
Does piwo contain caffeine
so what, what the fuck is xianhua
type it in Chinese
don't use pingyin it could indicate fucking everything
what hobbies do you have? (I see a guitar š)
okkiee ä» ä¾
Would drink
never heard of that
crazy
ain't give a fuck
can electric go through your body
I wish it could š©
I ever see a guy on TV using their body to power up a fucking light
that was fucking crazy tbh
what is maga
Do you suggest Skyward Sword or not
what (?)
could be one anyway
I finished setting up the Switch emulator
After 3 years
yeah but why make America great again what is it
šŗšø MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
FUCKING LET'S GO DONALD
HAIL TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
you don't understand the word of the holy God in the world
šŗšø Donald J. Trump
what's this gay ahh pfp.
crazyyy 
Ain't no way
You need to play with the motion controls and I literally cannot with mouse or controller
I would go insane and die before I do
I'll play the HD version on Switch
nope not at all
narcissus from the myth of narcissus
the pfp is from a manhwa BJ alex
and status is a xianxia joke
You probably follow heavenly court agenda, Religious path member.
demonic path cultivation 
My man, Let's keep preserving until the end.
My life has turned shit after I turned 12
as long as one wishes to walk, heavens will find a path for you.
just a humble cultivator trying to comprehend the dao 
Please give me a advice
wait till you hit puberty. it only gets worse.
I'm a adult now
Nuh it's because you are in Socialize | Active VC Server ⢠Hangout ⢠Voice Chat ⢠Call ⢠Social ⢠Chill ⢠Anime ⢠Memes ⢠Emojis server.
an*
Oh that's cool
How do I handle people treating me bad
still life will suck and only get worse from now on
The great dao is emotional less and impartial, But we must keep walking forward as that's the only path we can take.
I've lost most of my friends because they were toxic (I decided to leave them, to keep my oeace)
Good choice mate, Better to be alone than be with toxicity.
Not really, I still do have one last friend, from whom I will part ways in few months.
Wbu?
Aren't all Zelda games like this, at least from 3D era
I didn't have the greatest personality back then but I'm definitely better now
A lot of spamming the A button
I try my best to be nice and not bother others
Gay literature

He has a really good eye for people.
Obeying the law and living in constant worry, bandits live in pleasure every night; those who harm others to benefit themselves ride horses, while those were righteous and fair starve in hunger. Those who build bridges and repair roads go blind, while those who murder and cause arson have many offsprings. When I died, I asked Buddha, Buddha said: There was nothing I could do!
Loneliness kills you slowly
Why would people not seeking invade everything rather to choose be alone
But yeah it's better then being with someone toxic 1000%
When I do that they treat my bad
Find a good distraction and get distracted long enough to forget your problems
you're so tuff bro š„
Distraction won't fix the root problem
Or just get into a good hobby and not care about the problem
Invasion, conquer, domination
It's a bandaid solutionn
And eliminate every enemy
How bad is it
I can recommend you a book, that changed my life forever and saved my life
absolute cinema.
Yeah, It does.
Like pretty bad but not suicidal level bad
Not so tuff to deal with buddy but it is indeed tuff when Iām going to eliminate some enemies
Sure
I wonāt close my eye when Iām using a machine gun shooting targets
We will win the war
the laws of human nature - Robert greene
read just the introduction and first chapter, and if you don't like it drop it immediately. I'm that confident.
oh my god a big strong man
faints
LRWEITP
You know what it means ?
nope
LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER
I think it works
wipe ma ass
Unless it's a problem that affects your body, it's possible to ignore it through distractions
But they need to be good distractions
YES MAKE EVERY FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT LAWS AND RULES TO WIPE YOUR ASS
Hopefully there are cheats or hacks to fix this stupidity
AND SEIZE YOUR PLACE
I have depression I think
CONQUER IT BE YOUR OWN
wid da toilet paper
I would rather peacefully comprehend the dao
It's possible but until you get an actual diagnosis you need to deal with it in a more casual way
80% of my thoughts are negative
read psychology... or don't it might mess up your mind even more I can't say myself lol š
Try turning yourself into an entertainment robot, distract yourself continually until you don't care
What's the book called you were talking about
the laws of human nature - Robert greene
read one chapter and it is impossible it cannot help u
whyyy
Will it help me?
Hello everyone
Hello people here
Whats going on š
Curiosity isnt that bad too
Nothing is bad until you realize you lost everything by get addicted to something
Only that point you realized it is bad, then it is indeed bad
And you canāt get rid of that shit anymore
elabore on that