🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

damn are you a perfectionist?

[thorny steeple]

Maybe

[thorny steeple]

huh?

[gloomy frost]

Again no, perfection is unattainable either way, When something is perfect, Nothing else can be improved in it, Kinda boring if you ask me, Rather Realistic would be a wiser choice.

[golden jetty]

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[wary oak]

what you're describing are social constructs, we created the barriers for ourselves

[thorny steeple]

you are difficult to read...and more on that scary as hell too..like an advice maybe.....life is boring when u satrt thinking everything is worthless at the end...you question u learn different povs as well..but i dont think you get a definite answer...and when you think you do ..u would have spent it all

Have a nice one tho, See y'll later.

Rest in peace

[gloomy frost]

Correct ~ you are really smart aren't you? They are just barriers, A thin line of rationality that fades when survival comes in, It's all an illusion.

[thorny steeple]

:))(((

[gloomy frost]

Even animals spend their lives living without questioning reality, I have been blessed enough to question it, So I must, even if there's no answer, Even if there's nothing in the end, It's an necessity.

[thorny steeple]

twisting words are we nvm i asked

[gloomy frost]

I wasn't being sarcastic.

[gloomy frost]

No no it's fine, You just have to look at other perspective all the time.

[thorny steeple]

no u answer with basically same point every time...more like manipulation or should i say twisting words precisely

[thorny steeple]

like i said questioning is never wrong

all the best dude

[gloomy frost]

Twisting? I suppose you are correct, even so I can understand your words, But I can only answer your question with my own ways I grew up with, Whatever tell me are you a child of light or child of darkness, Just pick a side, i can explain what those light and darkness means later on.

[thorny steeple]

where are you from and more importantly how old r u/

[gloomy frost]

Fine, I am from india, And I am 17 years old, Wbu?

[thorny steeple]

you have a twisted way of life kid?chose psychology ?

[thorny steeple]

india

[gloomy frost]

Not twisted, Just simply is, Probably gonna choose psychology

[gloomy frost]

Ohh, I see, What about age?

[thorny steeple]

u r in 10th?

no 12th

[gloomy frost]

Affirmative.

[thorny steeple]

ohk

dont u have boards...what r u doing on discord

[gloomy frost]

Nothing much Trying to find some from of joy, Don't we all?

[thorny steeple]

u r twisted trust me

[gloomy frost]

😭 Why do you think that?

[thorny steeple]

cuz u talk contradictory

and u r just here being manipulative

dont u have school its 6;40

[gloomy frost]

I do, It's at 9:30 got a lot of time till I have to get up and go.

[gloomy frost]

Nuh, that's just how I talk.

[thorny steeple]

if u say so

[thorny steeple]

u are a science student? dummy school or soemthing?

[gloomy frost]

I am an commerce student, And it's not a dummy school rather a well known you must have heard of D.A.V public school right?

[thorny steeple]

ohhh that school starts at 9? lucky

[thorny steeple]

no offense heard of it... its famous too but not really for good reasons

[gloomy frost]

Sure is

[gloomy frost]

Right, I know it's known for it's violence but really where I live, It's not that common.

[thorny steeple]

i seee

[turbid dome]

Florida classic

[torpid dirge]

What's your motive then to refer fear as a byproduct of believe?

[celest gorge]

Believe in Jesus Christ to be saved

[turbid dome]

Can Jesus Christ get me an AARP Discount?

[shy summit]

So do you like… have an actual statement or….?

Cause we have a room for that.

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1236713261421035620

If you wanna have like… an actual discussion sure… but if you wanna JUST proselytize this ain’t the place @celest gorge

[hollow fjord]

For real, dude❤️

[fallow shard]

What's that

[turbid dome]

American association of retired persons I think

[fallow shard]

You're already retiring? That's awesome

[turbid dome]

It’s an org that old people like to sign up for because showing the card gets you a ton of discounts

[turbid dome]

I wish

[fallow shard]

Become billionaire and u could

[turbid dome]

I think you need to be at least 50 to get an AARP card but idk

[fallow shard]

That's stupid. If you could retire in ur 20's why'd they deny the card

What's the difference

[turbid dome]

Yeah nvm, there’s not an age limit besides 18 but most the benefits start at 50+

[frozen cape]

Nope

[fallow shard]

Age racism or something

[turbid dome]

It’s an old people group mostly, because nobody can retire young unless they’re already wealthy

[frozen cape]

Retiring that young and then wanting a card that could get you discounts is just being a massive cheapskate

[turbid dome]

Also true

[fallow shard]

Yea but who'd want to retire in their 20's

[turbid dome]

Me, if I could

[fallow shard]

Like if you'd have like billion dollars you'd get bored after awhile using that money

[gloomy frost]

depends on how you use it.

[turbid dome]

Nah I’d probably give most of it away and then live off like 10 mil for my whole life. Maybe keep another 10 as backup in case I become capable of healthy relationships.

[fallow shard]

Burn it

[fallow shard]

Sounds good

[gloomy frost]

Nuh, Let's say you are helping the poor, Would you get bored of that? Seeing them smile and joyful, As they can finally feed and live life happily, would get bored of that?

[fallow shard]

You can get bored of everything so yea eventually

[gloomy frost]

Understandable, What about using the money to travel and go on outer space if possible.

[frozen cape]

Need more for all of those private jet flights when you wanna move around

[turbid dome]

True. I think I should get rid of any chance of getting a drivers license and also hire a limo to take me to the private jet to fly me to Walmart

[fallow shard]

You can do so much w billion dollars that you could try everything and still have millions. Traveling to each country would probably take tiny portion of the billion except if you end up buying all the most expensive things

[frozen cape]

Your errand boy doesn't need a limo

[manic juniper]

Frog-shaped villa at the exact centre of a lake in Uzbekistan

How much will that cost

[fallow shard]

The what now😭

[manic juniper]

That would be the first sign of me becoming a billionaire

Actually no the first sign would be my own country where optic fibre gets fixed instantly

[gloomy frost]

Well, you'd need to realise that if a billion dollars suddenly came into the system, Especially countries rather than the entire world, The government can eligibility take that money from you, plus you'd have to at least explain how you got it, Then there's taxs, as well as it would cause an huge amount of inflation as well.

[fallow shard]

Lmfaooo you and ur optic fibre problem

[manic juniper]

Elisa betrayed me

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

If magic was real, what spell would you try to learn first?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[manic juniper]

Elisa and the Orpo regime will pay for what's being done to me

[fallow shard]

But hypothetically you just get it untaxed out of nowhere. Could you spend it so that every penny gave you something enjoyment. If you could spend every single dollar, could u be happy after all those experiences?

[fallow shard]

Change to different operators

I hate Elisa too

[manic juniper]

I changed from Telia to Elisa because they promised uncapped optic fibre network
And it was true

They betrayed me when it comes to mobile data plus they're not insisting enough to have the optic fibre fixed

[fallow shard]

😭

[manic juniper]

Today was the second time they promised me it would be fixed

The cables were fully fixed (allegedly)
Now they need to plug them to the closest control unit, but that didn't happen

I'm living with my aunt now, it feels like 2017 all over again

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[gloomy frost]

no no, You are mistaking happiness with joy, But it's fine everyone does that, joy is something that fades like buy a new car but after a while, Excitement is gone, Or kissing a girl, Well, Happiness is a whole different thing.

[fallow shard]

That honestly sounds great, my 2017 was banger

[manic juniper]

Mine wasn't, hopefully my 2018 comes next

But it's not going to happen, they ruined my fourth Skyrim modding era

[fallow shard]

But could you be happy?

[fallow shard]

Why skyrim specifically

[manic juniper]

I was trying to mod Skyrim for the fourth time

I mean it is my most successful modding era so far despite everything, I successfully installed 1300 mods and it's stable

But I was going to stop at ~1500

[fallow shard]

Where do u need 1300 mods??

[gloomy frost]

Again depends on what type of person you are.

[plain ruin]

good morning chat

[manic juniper]

Did you ever play Skyrim, many things need to be improved

For example no saunas despite literally being Nordic themed

[turbid dome]

Are you about to start a guerilla movement with the demands to fix fiber optic, uncap the data, and increase the reptile employment rate

[turbid dome]

good morning, did you miss the abdul ban? I forgot

[fallow shard]

Yea ofc but I asked you

[fallow shard]

Never actually, the game isn't appealing to me

[turbid dome]

wait nvm

[plain ruin]

I was just wondering what he was upto after I slept

[turbid dome]

he's back and muted

[plain ruin]

He got muted looks like

[turbid dome]

Yeah he left so i assumed it was a ban

[turbid dome]

Idk when you slept again but he did some holocaust denial

[manic juniper]

I get that it's Scandinavian and not Finnish but it's not like we never taught those savages about sauna

[manic juniper]

Exactly why you need mods

[fallow shard]

Again?

[turbid dome]

yes

[manic juniper]

I can probably find at least 20 mods that would make it more appealing to you

[fallow shard]

Sounds great then

[fallow shard]

Which are?

[manic juniper]

The game is probably one of the most flexible and tolerant to mod

[plain ruin]

a little less than 8 hours ago

[turbid dome]

Ok you were there then

[manic juniper]

Tell me what is it that you don't find appealing

[turbid dome]

nothing new

[plain ruin]

hmmmm i dont remember seeing any new messages after his last one to isfrun

[fallow shard]

It looks funky and it seems pretty dark

[gloomy frost]

No, I think true happiness is unattainable.

[turbid dome]

yeah. last i remember too

[plain ruin]

oh then i was there for it all, he probably got muted later for it

[turbid dome]

yup

[fallow shard]

But why, why are people still living if they can never find true happiness

[turbid dome]

great question, looking for an answer

[plain ruin]

the dumb jew conspiratorial hater uses JewGPT but cant admit that the thing isnt "smart" but told what "smart" looks like

[manic juniper]

Say no more
https://youtu.be/KlEOLCU3-r8

This is a mod I installed btw

It's just 120 MB and it adds a lot new interactions and events while you're on drugs

[plain ruin]

what can I say to abdul except

[turbid dome]

With abdul muted and flare hibernating, no fundamentalists to balance the chat against "it"

[plain ruin]

Voldemort is bound to be awake soon too

Holy
He woke up 2 hours ago

[manic juniper]

What is faster

1. The speed of light
2. Nobu's hadith of the day

[fallow shard]

That's exactly what it needs

[manic juniper]

What about fishing, that one doesn't even need mods

Yet Skyrim has fishing now

[turbid dome]

2

[fallow shard]

Huhh?

[manic juniper]

They added fishing to Skyrim some years ago, officially

[fallow shard]

Wdym some years ago? Isn't skyrim like +10yo

[manic juniper]

More, 10 years ago is just the current edition of Skyrim

Its first release date was 2011

They did some big updates to the 2015 Special Edition, they added Survival Mode, then they added Fishing

[fallow shard]

Old game

[manic juniper]

You can mod it to look more modern than 99% of games

My modded Skyrim is the second most powerful game on my computer

[haughty wing]

You guys are talking bout Skyrim?

I love Skyrim haha

[manic juniper]

Beaten in graphics only by Need For Speed Unbound I guess

[fallow shard]

Only by that? Okay you've modded it a lot

[manic juniper]

There is more I need to do still

Once I'm not limited by the technological constraints I have I will go further

[gloomy frost]

Most of them don't realise this but if you ask me Because life is not only about happiness, nor is life about grief, But experience if you can live a interesting life what's death? Just an another state, Nothing to worry, Experience all the wonders of world whether it may be beauty or filth.

[fallow shard]

You seem to be determined that you'll make it look better than most games

[fallow shard]

Philosophical, I like it

[manic juniper]

I stopped with graphics because I'm satisfied, now I will focus on quests and enemy variety

[gloomy frost]

got too serious, Anyways, I also played Skyrim once, It's peak.

[fallow shard]

Okay makes sense and sounds fun

[fallow shard]

Starting to feel like I missed something culturally important

[manic juniper]

It's never too late to play Skyrim

And if your computer is beefy enough you can just play my mod collection

[gloomy frost]

It's was popular back then, Actually it still is just try it, you'd not regret.

[thorny steeple]

1.When i woke up
2.I started crying
3.When i saw you
4.I hugged you

Read this in 4,3,2,1 order

[frozen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[plain ruin]

@turbid dome voldemort is up

in vc

[north sapphire]

Sahīh al-Bukhārī

To lick and suck the fingers

Narrated Ibn ʿAbbas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'When you eat, do not wipe your hands till you have licked it, or had it licked by somebody else."

Reference: Sahīh al-Bukhārī 5456

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-best-laugh-thats-funny-gif-8282901

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-bro-how-bro-felt-gif-8015564281503585223

[turbid dome]

Fun

[formal pilot]

They say Nobu is Horcrux

[turbid dome]

Who is the opposite of Nobu here

[lunar crown]

Who's even Nobu? Christian or Muslim?

[turbid dome]

There's multiple theories. He claims to be christian and we know he runs an apologetics website. On the other hand he spends all his time attacking Islam so there's the Hindu nationalist theory

[formal pilot]

No one, we all share similarities with Nobu

[turbid dome]

We need to get someone who loves Islam and is off discord all the time to counter him. So the Ayatollah

[lunar crown]

What kinda radical centrist shi is that

[turbid dome]

No idea.

[wary plover]

Nop

[formal pilot]

What's on bottom right

[wary plover]

It’s meme

This is internet freaking

[thorny steeple]

yk what it is

its a human riding a saber tooth

[formal pilot]

Goddammmmit he got muted

[austere moat]

Dead chat

[thorny steeple]

Tonight's the night

[wet basalt]

Hii

Hru

[static meteor]

The frog has neglected its own persona, showing up an stressed life with irritated, unfocused eyes, wrinkles around its face and dehydrated appearance overall

AI tweaked version
The frog's been neglecting itself—its eyes are all over the place, and those wrinkles are a sign of the times. It's burned out, running on empty, and in way over its head, barely hanging on

[slender coral]

دعِ المساجدَ للعبّادِ تسكنُها
وقف على دِكَّةِ الخمّارِ واسْقِنا

ما قال ربُّكَ ويلٌ للأُلى سَكِروا
لكنْ قالَ ويلٌ للمُصلّينا
Leave the mosques to the worshippers who inhabit them,
And come sit upon the vintner’s bench and pour for us.

Your Lord never said “woe to those who become drunk,”
But He did say “woe to those who pray”

A part of the small heretical Arabic poetry legacy we have. It's said that the verses were written by Abu Nawas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nuwas

[crude elk]

he looks drawable

[slender coral]

The last bit is a play on words. A verse in the Quran literally says "woe to those who pray..." but continues explaining that it's referring to those who are supposed to pray but don't.

Except for his weird sexual preferences, I like the guy.

You can read about it in the Wikipedia article.

[cerulean pivot]

My culture is not your costume 😔

Femboys and women
He was bisexual

[slender coral]

He was attracted to minors it seems. The femboys were minors.

[wary plover]

Ok

[turbid ivy]

R u a Muslim

[slender coral]

Well, because the whole thing about protecting kids/adolescents and doing our best to make them grow up healthy is a very new thing. Most common religions are very old, were made during time when no one gave a fuck about such topics and no one really had a developed understanding of adolescent psychology.

Muslims problems with him was that they considered him gay, not a predator.

[cerulean pivot]

But he repented at his last days

That's for the politics

[slender coral]

It's very incompatible. Idk about Zohran's beliefs but he probably does much religious progressive mental gymnastics to justify them to himself.

[slender coral]

No. The man is very obviously progressive. Haven't you seen the pic with his wife? He doesn't care about traditional values.

[cerulean pivot]

He is
Not "lying" everyone know shia Muslims forbid homosexuality
He's just not a religious person

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah as i said
He's not religious

Idk man ask him

[slender coral]

The Quran literally said that god punished the people of Lut for homosexuality. And there's a Hadith where Mohamed says that if gay people have sex they are ought to be killed. The very well-known punishment I think comes from Mohamed's companions where they push them from a high place to their death.

[cerulean pivot]

Lying of what
Bro

He's a shia twelver
Read what's the judge on gay people according to twelvers and see

Are you blind

[cerulean pivot]

.

[plain ruin]

He didn't say "lying"

[turbid ivy]

[slender coral]

Nothing really says you can't hate them, but yeah the punishment is only tied to the action.

[cerulean pivot]

Not religious Muslim is a thing
Just like most of Christians

[plain ruin]

Sure it does, it's not a binary "religious" or "not-religious", it's more of a degree of "religiousness"

[slender coral]

"That's tor politics"
Suggests Zohran lies for politics.

[cerulean pivot]

Yes

It's fine btw
He might be a good mayor or a good person in general
Nothing against him

[plain ruin]

Not really
He most likely does support the LGBT movement himself, he just doesn't follow everything in the religion

[cerulean pivot]

Devil always gets the worst out of me😔🙏🏻

So happy i have a hater after all

[plain ruin]

Every religion says that
Hell, Catholics say that the Pope is infallible
At the end of the day it's pretty subjective, one can identify with a religion without following every single aspect of it
There's a "free will" aspect and "weighing of sins/good" aspect in Islam too
They also have explicit definitions as to who is a "non-believer" (kufr)
Engaging in homosexual acts will probably be sinful but not "kufr"

Every one of every religion says xyz is wrong, yet everyone does them to some extent anyway, or justify doing "wrong"

[cerulean pivot]

"That's for politics " i meant that a leader with different people under his leadership has to melt between them , religiously / culturally

It can be
And can't be at the same time
Depending on who are u following

[plain ruin]

Generalization by other religions/atheists, bad actors among the religious, "religious" people using certain verses to justify wrongdoing while ignoring other parts of the verses, etc.

[cerulean pivot]

It's more of an individuals behaviors than a strict scripts
Especially in these times

[plain ruin]

I'm agnostic and don't really care what people "believe"
Believe what you want, but when it comes to laws and how you treat humans, go beyond what any book says

[plain ruin]

Adding to this, institutionalization against progress by religious entities,
Conspiracy theories, etc. etc.

[slender coral]

I'm struggling to see the flexibility. Everytime I look at the texts, the meanings are often straightforward. It's just that people project their values onto the texts, and reintrepret them heavily. You can't convince me a liberal Muslim who can't read Arabic today understands Islam more than a scholar who lived in a time closer to the age of the prophet.

[plain ruin]

Well, he argued that supporting/not supporting homosexuality defines him as a muslim
But that's not exactly true, being muslim is based on different factors

And even then "flexibility" seems imo to be moreso based on the totality of one's good/bad actions combined rather than "Did you do all the good possible things and avoid all the bad possible things"

I wouldn't be able to talk to you about interpretation, I haven't read that much into it

Let the liberal [insert religion] "sin" if they want to, their choice
If they believe they do more good than sin, their choice and ultimately good for society if they "sin" in ways that are good, and do "good" in the context of their religion, if its good for society

This is my view

[cerulean pivot]

Idk
I don't have reliable statistics for this topic

What do you think?

[slender coral]

Religious people often claim this but I'd say communism was more harmful than Islam because communism had the power to cause it. There are many Muslim rulers who were known for tyranny and brutality but they often didn't have a huge population under their control with modern quick killing methods.

[plain ruin]

At the end of the day "liberal [religious]" are still holding back society for sure as well

But you won't be able to convince conservative [religious] without first liberalizing them

Once they are "liberal", then only can you actually completely have conversations with them about the rest of their beliefs

Things need to be done one at a time

Changing the view of beliefs to shape better "actions" and reduce negative "actions" is easier than trying to tell someone that their belief is "wrong/ancient/invalid"

[turbid ivy]

Tak tak khyah

This al zutt story is blowing up the Internet

[thorny steeple]

I really wana start my studies again but Thinking about How much time ive wasted and so much behind mow in studies than others i dont feel like doing anything at all

[rapid nebula]

Same here.If you don't mind,how old are you?

[thorny steeple]

Hiii

[hidden shore]

crazy , is it true

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-roll-tumbleweed-gif-5514767

[frozen cape]

this is nonsense propaganda from the cold war

[slender coral]

Hey

What do you wanna discuss today?

[thorny steeple]

Na actually I just came to see but every chat Is empty

[slender coral]

🤨
What actually happened then?

[thorny steeple]

How r you doing devil

[slender coral]

I'm good

[thorny steeple]

That's great

[plain ruin]

I mean it is a misleading phrasing, trying to associate atheism and communism as the direct cause of those activities

[austere moat]

dead chat

[slender coral]

Oh, I thought anti was referring to the numbers as nonesense propaganda. Communists did cause a lot of damage.

[plain ruin]

Yup, nowadays the good ideas of their ideology are being used all over the world with good effects.
Some people are literally giving ad-hominem like attacks to ideologies rather than talking about the implementation of the ideology

[slender coral]

These deaths weren't caused by atheism really. They were a result of totalitarian practices and inefficiency, two things religion didn't protect religious societies from, there were countless religious tyrants in history. The difference is that communism had the political conditions at times to have its affects on bigger scale.

They had the technology to kill and suppress people, and they had a massive population.

Compare the ratio of death toll of Mustansirite hardship to the Great Leap Forward famine to population sizes of Egypt and China during the times of these events. The Nile failing to flood was one of the causes to the Mustansirite hardship but political problems certainly played a key role.

[quartz furnace]

Hey guys

[slender coral]

Hello!

[thorny vapor]

https://youtu.be/Sj_QQsghkqs?si=gNLms1l0mbRzNPz7

Check this out Mr. Satan

[slender coral]

There's no hope with that fella. He simply refuses to understand. Funnily his Bible has more weird stories than Islamic texts lol

[thorny vapor]

True

[slender coral]

https://youtu.be/cGecYM8S1r0?si=371nAg4yt39Nz_Ci

@thorny vapor

[thorny steeple]

22

[elfin kraken]

does that exclude the hadith ?

[slender coral]

It excludes the ones Muslims deem inauthentic. But yeah despite how odd some Hadiths are they don't reach how odd stuff DarkMatter2525 covered in his channel.

[thorny steeple]

Hello Cosmic plant

[elfin kraken]

There is a lot of authentic hadith who are silly af like what’s the point the things you are calling out in the bible, are almost the same in the islamic litterature at the end of the day it’s both two funny men made stories about who’s as the real god and he’s just gonna punish us .

All people having worth and dignity except if ur a women, or gay, trans or a slave lmao

[slender coral]

Tell me what's the weirdest thing in Islamic texts have you ever encountered? Does any of it reach the level of an ancestor of an important religious figure tricking her father in law into having sex with her.
I agree with you they are all fantastical bs that came from medieval/ancient times but I think Islam went through a stricter path in terms of modesty.

[plain ruin]

Not saying you're wrong
We have a structure that was created by xyz
If we find better materials (ideologies) for the structure (society), just renovate and replace them

There's no need to go into the "Christianity had good impact" or "Islam is having bad impact"

The past is the past
Take the good we have from whatever religion, don't take the bad we have from whatever religion

One can argue that Christianity led to slavery, anti-abortions, some sects don't even allow for certain conditions of saving lives for the "higher belief"

My point is why give a shit about the religion
We need to worry about actions that people in society are taking part in, regardless of religion

Action > Belief

[elfin kraken]

I think the best one i’ve read was about Musa chasing a rock who stole his clothes it’s was like the funniest thing i’ve read but like if you want more disturbing hadith maybe the one that’s say that if someone leave islam they should be ☠️

[austere moat]

Hello fellow gambler what are you doing here

[thorny steeple]

Haha

[elfin kraken]

But sometimes Belief lead to action so it’s still has an impact on us. Like the thing we should do is fight against extremism in every religion or politic group to give more nuance to things and be able to coexist without any conflict (i know we don’t live in a utopian world )

[plain ruin]

Belief based on foresight of outcome leads to action

"Belief" on its own is meaningless

What matters is the goal of the belief

People are too busy criticizing "belief systems" without looking at the actions of people as individuals

[elfin kraken]

Yes i agree with you but sometimes individuals actions are caused partially because of the belief, like for exemple being homophobic.

[plain ruin]

I addressed this, the goal of the belief matters
If the goal of the belief is to condemn people who aren't causing harm to others, then its not a belief to keep holding onto
Address each belief individually as well

[brisk marsh]

Have you ever heard of subconscious mind? It influences both conscious and unconscious actions. Belief does has a great impact on it bcs people could be influenced subconsciously through their beliefs. Actions also has basis, things that underlies actions is the belief that the person holds, as to why they did it.

[plain ruin]

When we're talking about religion

Each person that follows, choses what to believe and what not to believe in the religion anyway.

Religions say a lot of things, doesn't mean every single thing is going to be followed by anyone

[sweet wolf]

hi carpe

[plain ruin]

You're misunderstanding my argument

My argument is mainly that criticism towards people should be towards their actions rather than their belief (initially)
Someone could be homophobic but not promote homophobia/killing/harming people in the LGBT community
Another could want to kill someone and mention it online

Actions need to be addressed more than the political game of criticizing beliefs, as beliefs are a part of identity and constantly criticizing beliefs leads to radicalism

In trying to fix society, we shouldn't play into also radicalising it further

That argument doesn't even make sense

Would you say the same for capitalism due to the fact that most of the "developed" countries today are only there because of slavery?

If you can show me where the ideological structure of communism itself promoted the causation of those deaths, you have a talking point

[swift crest]

Then why do we always have these religious convos,
Why is it that so many people memorize what the other religion does to prove them wrong? 😭💔

[slender coral]

Crazy stuff, but I don't think they reach the level of madness in a story of a holy bloodline that had a woman in it tricking her father in law to have sex.

[plain ruin]

Singapore's wealth is based on authoritarian rule, South Korea based on reparations and early authoritarianism

It's not "capitalism" that made them what they are now

[elfin kraken]

Yes it’s fucked up never heard of that tbh !

[plain ruin]

But you're criticizing communism which is an ideology

It can have all sorts of implementations

[wet basalt]

Hi

[plain ruin]

Same with capitalism
You wouldn't say that capitalism is bad because capitalists indulged in slavery

You're diverting from the point;
the "suffering of communism" has less to do with the system itself, and moreso to do with the authoritarianism and greed in implementation

Every country in the world has communist aspects to it, right now

Great, now explain how

Same thinking can be applied to capitalism and slavery/exploitation

[swift crest]

?Def communism

[cursive bobcat]

Word: communism

Definition 1 (noun): a form of socialism that abolishes private ownership
Definition 2 (noun): a political theory favoring collectivism in a classless society

Definition requested by tiol0708

[plain ruin]

Do you not see how this reasoning you gave conflicts with "communism"

Capitalism is driven by profits
Spend less, earn more = Profit for the owner
Spend as low as possible by owning slaves, exploit people through jobs by underpaying

[brisk marsh]

There's no systems in this world that's purely for the good of humanity, whether communist, capitalism, etc. All were designed for the benefit of individuals in controlling the masses. Each system has its own way of killing their own people, both physical and mentally. They never really cared abt humanity.

[wet basalt]

What y'all guys talking about

[plain ruin]

Not sure you're talking about the same thing

You talked about "communism" alongside "liberal democracy"
i.e. You're talking about "communism" as a political model

Inherently, it's an economic model

Slavery was a result of promoting profits
#🧠｜serious-chat message

"A result of the system itself"

[swift crest]

Same.

[plain ruin]

Communism is defined by ownership by the community

If you're talking about "communism" in terms of the definition by the Soviet leaders (which expanded political definitions), you're then talking about their implementation and thoughts of "communism" and their results of their implementation

How wouldn't there be one?

This is again; besides the point of my message
You're talking about an outcome of a political system created by certain individuals as the direct cause of 50 million deaths

By definition, using the word "communism (atleast using the word alone)/atheistic" alongside that would be wrong

Your argument was:
"The communist and atheistic machine > Caused 50 million deaths"

"The system" (communism) or "That system" (soviet implementation of what they defined as communism)?

Ownership by the people = people have control, not = centralization

[swift crest]

You're saying : communism caused 50 million deaths?

[plain ruin]

That's a fair question
There aren't many places/examples
But using an example which itself was against the core essence of the word

[swift crest]

You also included atheism?

[plain ruin]

you see the problem now @swift crest

[swift crest]

You're saying : communists are atheist?

[swift crest]

Idk
I am just tryna understand guys...
Please don't counter now 😭

I see the problem.
I dunno if that's the problem, that you're arguing for @plain ruin

[plain ruin]

The people have control over the assets/etc. as a collective
If the people agree for the leadership of a person to represent a business/company/etc... they can do that
The decision making power isn't with people who have money and bought a share for the sake of making profit

The decision making power is with people who have an interest in the outcomes as a whole rather than outcomes that are solely profit-driven

[swift crest]

Why r you combining communism and atheism?

[plain ruin]

You're tying an implementation of communism that wasn't "communism" to begin with, with communism
Atheism with the same implementation

Default on a vote
Not that hard

[slender coral]

Communists were atheist. As fair as I understand and know, communsim explicitly rejects god and makes atheism a national identity.

[plain ruin]

Either way, the main issue is how you're tying things together rather than "communism vs xyz"

[swift crest]

So if I say I am atheist,I am a communist?
According to communists???

[slender coral]

@abstract night

[slender coral]

No. Communists said they are atheists, not that you have to be communist in order to be atheist.

[plain ruin]

I think its more apt to say Soviet Communists/Marxism were "atheistic"

[plain ruin]

No
More like communists (soviet implementation) were atheists
But not all atheists are communists

[swift crest]

I don't think everyone in china are atheist.

[slender coral]

China has its own distinct version of communism today.

[swift crest]

I see.
Then I don't think that generalization is valid now.
Saying communist are atheists OR a form of communism is atheism.

[plain ruin]

This is the problem
"Communism" isn't about atheism at all
Neither does it itself promote killing

It's the specific implementation done by certain individuals in the soviet era that led to the suffering

[slender coral]

That's not a good idea. We didn't have that many "atheist" states to begin with.
How do you even define "atheist society"? Is it one led by atheists or one where atheism is common? If you pick the second definition, a lot of stable and flourishing societies today are atheist.

[swift crest]

Soviets killed people in the name of atheism?

Could you explain it better... like why would you think so?

A country that "bans" all religions sounds bad than, A country that follows atheism.

You're saying we need "religion" to solve some struggles in a society?

[slender coral]

Friggin how? Atheism is lack of belief in god(s), one/a society can lack belief in god(s) yet still not being in favor of banning religion.

[swift crest]

You're saying we need the concept/belief system "religion" to solve some struggles in a society?
And that if you "embrace" religion, some of the struggles would go away?

[slender coral]

A nation that defines itself as one and implement law inspired by Christian texts.

[swift crest]

I agree with this.

Do you have anything that supports it or is it a general claim?

[slender coral]

They are simply communist, that's it. It's interesting that you called it "religiously atheist", drawing parallel from how fanatical religious ideologies can be.

[swift crest]

Arey yarrrr
"Religiously atheist"?? Sounds new.

[plain ruin]

Correct
But being an atheistic society does not necessitate the banning of religion

This has been my point from the beginning

From before you brought up communism

[slender coral]

That's the thing, you cannot attribute communist bad nor good attributes to atheism because atheism is such a very plain thing. It's just like a belief in god on its own (deism) which doesn't come with a doctrine by itself.

[swift crest]

Are you implying : christian society doesn't want everyone to be christian? A Christian society won't ban other religions?
I think if they could they will.

I won't say impossible.

I see.

I dunno for some reason, this argument feels productive.

?def religion

[cursive bobcat]

Word: religion

Definition 1 (noun): a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
Definition 2 (noun): an institution to express belief in a divine power

Definition requested by tiol0708

[slender coral]

It's possible, but the things you are trying to say that an atheist nation necessarily have to have such as banning religion are actually not a necessity in an atheist nation.

[dapper pier]

Hello,who are you?

I meant your profile photo.Who is he?

[swift crest]

Bro.

[dapper pier]

Yea bro

Just roleplay

Nelson mandela

Can I put in my profile führer?

[high rapids]

MEINE DEUTSCHEN VOLKSGENOSSEN UND GENOSSINNEN

[candid storm]

Is that chat for big brains and that kind of people?

[swift crest]

I know nothing about silksong.
LITERALLY NOTHING.
I didn't even know that my pfp is related to silksong, It came as my wallpaper once, I thought the pic was cool, I took a screenshot.
And I just randomly put it as my pfp.
I knew abt it later.

[slender coral]

People should move to Linux tbh

Microsoft is a friggin spyware

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-outta-here-bye-kick-gif-15735059

[austere moat]

Flat earth mod in chat crazy

[uncut tiger]

why do i hear everyone saying this dude

i am windows user since birth

[slender coral]

Because it's true. Windows sends much information about you to Microsoft, and they do it to the extent of making the performance of your PC worse.

[uncut tiger]

Yeah I installed win 11 with Rufus

[shell hemlock]

true

[formal pilot]

I disagree

[mystic bay]

If I could live without a computer then I would

[austere moat]

dead chat

[mystic bay]

Nobel*

[formal pilot]

You can always get an off grid farm in southwest france, and limit your activities on computers

[mystic bay]

Not without quitting my current job

Which I do not want to do

[formal pilot]

Clay ovens are the way to go

[swift crest]

Bro chill, it's not that deep 😭😭😭😭

[sweet wolf]

where are minecraft and nobu

[high rapids]

just ping them

https://tenor.com/view/caramelldansen-dance-meep-dancing-dance-moves-gif-16979035

[frail nexus]

guy who think the earth is a fluid covered ball spinning in a vacuum without a container in 2025 is delulu 🤪

[austere moat]

You mean a floating bowl in space?

[frail nexus]

space is fake there's no bowl in a heliocentric systeem

[shy summit]

Let’s keep this chat serious please? We can leave the silly conspiracy theories for their designated rooms.

[frail nexus]

yes objective truth claims and reaching the conclusion of the truth is a joking matter

[frail nexus]

super serious

[austere moat]

Fellas I have a question

Why is gambling addictive?

[mystic bay]

It's not if you don't start

[shy summit]

Dopamine, Serotonin. That sort of thing.

[mystic bay]

The trick with gambling, drugs, alcohol, fornication, etc. is simply to not take even the first step down that road

[high rapids]

flat earth is serious

[shy summit]

Mhm. Anyways. We got a few weeks till the documents get released.

[high rapids]

Just do cocaine

[shy summit]

Let’s not 😭

My drug is politics

[high rapids]

you are our supplier

[shy summit]

Yes, that’s my job as a journalist

[high rapids]

Selling cocaine?

[shy summit]

Dealing political news

[high rapids]

is this you?

[shy summit]

No

[high rapids]

My love language is rage baiting

[shy summit]

I know… I’m so sad for you

[high rapids]

?

Why

We should meet in person:)

[shy summit]

I’m not looking to dox myself bby

[high rapids]

what is dox

[frail nexus]

it's an allergy

[blazing stone]

Hello everyone

[shy summit]

Leaking personal info basically

[high rapids]

we can met in a coffee shop

Or at an LGBTQ Festival

[mystic bay]

Ew

Is that a real thing

[fallow shard]

[unkempt veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[high rapids]

idk

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/pride-month-2022pride-month-progress-flag-pride-progress-flag-pride-flag-gif-25833147

[mystic bay]

Cringe

[fallow shard]

Little gay

[slender coral]

Nah it's not

Supporting a suppressed minority is never a bad thing.

[cloud basin]

hi I want practice

[mystic bay]

Suppressed?

One can hardly get away from it

It's obnoxiously, grotesquely visible

[wary oak]

Piss off bigot

Go to egypt

[fallow shard]

Fancy words won't make you looks smart

[slender coral]

Hey, you are in the best place for it.

[slender coral]

lmfao

Yeah, come take my place PJeong

[wary oak]

Dudes i think my neighbors are like beating their kids

My neighbors are pakistani and basically at like 9pm - 1-2am all u hear in that apt is banging and screaming and crying and stomping

[fallow shard]

Solution, violence

[wary oak]

Idk why theyre up so late

[slender coral]

It depends on what country and what region we are talking about. But mostly, they aren't visible. And even in places where they aren't systematically suppressed, they still face the disadvantages of being a small minority in a society of people who can't rleate to their experiences.

[slender coral]

You can't report them?

[high rapids]

call the police

Tell the police they kidnapped babys so the squad team comes

[wary oak]

Cops have come a few times

[slender coral]

People from third world countries often tolerate child abuse, unfortunately.

[wary oak]

The thing is one of the kids has cancer

[wary oak]

So i really have no clue if thats what the cryings about or not

My upstairs neighbors are both cops

Get this, im 100% theres abuse in there

I have heard some wild shit

[slender coral]

Report them then

[wary oak]

Theyre cops dude

The girl is a local cop, the pd is like a mile away
The man is a state trooper

i dont think it’ll serve me well to meddle

[high rapids]

call the fbi

[wary oak]

My landlord said they get passionate about sports upstairs

But i only believed that for a few months

they for sure be fighting

[high rapids]

that sounds like a job for @shy summit

[wary oak]

you know they used to have intercourse like REALLY loud too

But one of my roommates starting blaring s*x sounds everytime they would on a speaker up to the ceiling and we stopped hearing them about a year ago too

[high rapids]

declare war on them

[uncut tiger]

Cancel their visas and let me live their

[high rapids]

HAHA

[uncut tiger]

Foking dumbass Pakistanis ruining our image

[high rapids]

Where are you from?

[uncut tiger]

Pakistan 💀

[high rapids]

you are kidding

[fallow shard]

😭

[uncut tiger]

Their visa must be given to me so I can live in civilized manner in their home

I'm sorry on behalf of those Pakistanis guys

[austere moat]

Very Jews mentality

[high rapids]

Can´t you live in Pakistan under civilized manner?

[austere moat]

W

[uncut tiger]

Yeah I'm doing it right now

[high rapids]

So you can stay there

[austere moat]

Stay there

[uncut tiger]

No way I'm coming after four years watch out bitches

[blazing stone]

Hello everyone

[rain lava]

Is that u on your pfp diaz

[high rapids]

I don´t get it whats your problem why would you leave your country

[rain lava]

[uncut tiger]

WHY TF ARE YOU LAUGHING ITS SO GOOD

DUDE SHASHA STOP

[austere moat]

Alexa play hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have

[rain lava]

Yeah its good but is that u ?

[uncut tiger]

Because of the American dream

[high rapids]

Being white?

[blazing stone]

How dangerous

[uncut tiger]

Yeah that's why stop laughing

[uncut tiger]

No being American

[high rapids]

if they give you visa you arent american

if they give you the citizenship you aren´t american

[uncut tiger]

Green card soon in Sha Allah yallah Habibi by the grace of Allah 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[uncut tiger]

Alright wtv I'ma still live here tho

[high rapids]

wtv?

[rain lava]

Whatever

[hidden shore]

Dont worry his allah give him American citizenship In afterlife

[high rapids]

In Austria, a ban on headscarves for girls under the age of 14 in school will come into effect in 2026.

Do you think thats a good idea?

[rain lava]

Why would they wear a headscarf ? U mean muslim ?

[high rapids]

yes

[austere moat]

Imagine getting a scholarship in Germany and enjoying the snow there

What a perfect life to imagine

[high rapids]

It was snowing today in Austria

[fallow shard]

Why is that thing

[high rapids]

Because that's what the left wing partys decided

[rain lava]

Yeah i think its good since its the 14 and below, for muslim i think its only mandatory when u hit puberty like 14 above

[austere moat]

Wow GTK I wish I could experience snow for once in my life as well

[high rapids]

Where are you from?

[blazing stone]

We’re you at

[river stream]

Hiii

[blazing stone]

From the states and you

[high rapids]

Austria

[fallow shard]

Well it's whatever, I don't see any reasons why would it be bad or good thing

[blazing stone]

Okay that’s fine how’s everything over there in Austria

[austere moat]

Pakistan

[austere moat]

PAKISTAN

[blazing stone]

How’s Pakistan

[high rapids]

Its okay

[blazing stone]

Okay that’s fine we’re exactly in Austria are you

[austere moat]

Good NGL

[blazing stone]

Okay that’s fine

[slender coral]

You'd fit better among Israelis with that mentality.

[uncut tiger]

💀💀💀

[high rapids]

rip diaz

[uncut tiger]

Not the ✅ reacts

[fallow shard]

Diaz being bullied🥀

[high rapids]

who?

[sweet wolf]

khyah

[swift crest]

What's khyaha????

[high rapids]

????

[sweet wolf]

the chant of the kafir

the nepali hood ☹️

sorry bro i couldn't resist taking pics of you in the urinal while hanging from the ceiling

are they in sweden or doing this in japan?

[high rapids]

@feral river Whats the problem rn between China and Japan

[feral river]

that's quite an old fashion in China

probably in 80s or 90s

[feral river]

no very much problem currently

[high rapids]

Are they gonna invade you like they have done it before?

[feral river]

not possible if they would try to invade us

they better pray we don't invade them by our impulsive idea

[mystic bay]

Really really

[valid sonnet]

This is stubbed thinking

[shy summit]

What’s that mean

[near blaze]

Ai results be like

[slender coral]

[thorny steeple]

Finally they stop talking about Islam

Everybody
Everyday
All day long

https://tenor.com/view/tired-af-crying-sad-kid-baby-gif-16569285596128859211

[crisp garden]

islam is a good religion

-# true one

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[mystic bay]

In a word (or two): Christian fanfiction

[slender coral]

"We talk about other stuff here every now and then.
Many complain that we talk about religion very often, but if you don't like it you can try and shift the topic to something else instead of just complaining."
Saved

[glossy ether]

wagwan

[thorny steeple]

Why are you Nelson Mandela?

[glossy ether]

[thorny steeple]

Who said that?

[slender coral]

Me. I saved it to paste it every time someone whine about religion/Islam topics.

[rain lava]

R u mislim

[uncut tiger]

allah u akbar

She is oompa loompa

bro works in a chocolate shop

[mystic bay]

No

[thorny steeple]

Hell nah

[thorny steeple]

Do you think I am

[mystic bay]

Actually I gave up that job!

The orange vinyl pants have been retired

[uncut tiger]

Yeah you told me you got a new one

[thorny steeple]

Who said I hate him?

[uncut tiger]

how's it going Pjeong

[rain lava]

Kinda

[mystic bay]

Yes

[mystic bay]

That's right. I am a full-time academic editor now.

[uncut tiger]

that's nice, I hope you're satisfied by this one

[mystic bay]

I am

I really like the job so far

I get my first paycheque tomorrow

Going to spend it on chocolate

Academic articles

Mostly in the sciences

All fields, but I get a lot in material science for some reason

[thorny steeple]

You just accused me of that.

I will deny if you have proof 😉 😏

[slender coral]

I can't take this word seriously anymore.

[thorny steeple]

Hahah

[slender coral]

It's thrown around very often, and often directed at anyone who is critical of Islam or bad aspects of Muslim cultures.

[thorny steeple]

I didn't even know this word existed

[slender coral]

Even if they aren't hateful

[slender coral]

Where are you from?

[turbid dome]

I don’t dislike Mandela, I admire him quite a bit. I do think negotiating an end to apartheid was a mistake, and the ANC should’ve pressed the advantage to get full equality instead of the truth and reconciliation committees

[thorny steeple]

Canada

[thorny steeple]

Terrorist things

[slender coral]

Strange that it's new to you. It's very commonly used in the west.

[turbid dome]

It’s a slightly less abused antisemitism. It has valid use cases, but most of the time It means “you made me uncomfortable”

[slender coral]

It's a term coined by some western guy.

[thorny steeple]

Ik, It's my disguise 🥸

Im here to bother them and everyone

[turbid dome]

How did you extract that from what I said

No

[slender coral]

I'd say it's abused more considering how Islamic bs happen more frequently than Israeli bs and that opens the discourse around Islamophobia more often.

[thorny steeple]

Talking about Islam again

Finally, a feminist guy has arrived!

[turbid dome]

Ehhh, there is actually some systemic discrimination against Muslims (TSA as an example). On the other hand Israel has made the news a lot more than usual for deciding to escalate their genocide

[thorny steeple]

Is it your name?

[turbid dome]

That’s not real

[plain ruin]

Didn't Elon's own AI debunk him on that

[turbid dome]

They’re politically motivated operatives lmao. There is no evidence

[plain ruin]

Debatable given the last few months

[thorny steeple]

Who said I hate them

[turbid dome]

Yes

[swift crest]

That happened? lol

[plain ruin]

Grok does counter a lot of MAGA points

[slender coral]

Conservative have been debating Grok (Elon's AI model) for a while now on many different topics, and they lose.

[plain ruin]

Just gotta see Kash Patel's track record

[plain ruin]

@swift crest there are ig pages dedicated to showing examples of these threads

[thorny steeple]

I think they should have the same right, but the majority feminist want be better than us. They want privileges that we don't have

[turbid dome]

I don’t even care about individual actors here as much as the fact that the US lies all the time so unless there’s solid evidence I don’t care what some bullshit artist says

[thorny steeple]

Read again

[plain ruin]

"Pakistani" oh dear

[turbid dome]

Feminists just want equality

[plain ruin]

If you don't even know who Kash Patel is/where his origin is from, how are you even attempting to make the insinuation that people are dismissing him due to racism

[fallow shard]

[plain ruin]

He's Gujarati indian, he doesn't even have a muslim name, wtf

[slender coral]

Such as?

[thorny steeple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/twpB8nQj8YM?si=D_nY_CxA7Oha30s1 these one? Hahah

[fallow shard]

That isn't feminism

[plain ruin]

Still, shows how you don't know what you're actually talking about

[slender coral]

@swift crest

[thorny steeple]

Just bc they didn't say 'I am fem..."?

They are

[plain ruin]

If he does, atleast puts more dedication into his prompt than Abdul does

[turbid dome]

You can’t be serious

Probably

[fallow shard]

No, that's just extremist thinking. It has proper word but I don't remember it

[thorny steeple]

[uncut tiger]

I am feminist

[plain ruin]

Misandry

[thorny steeple]

Why so serious/dead meme💔

[uncut tiger]

real men support woman rights

[thorny steeple]

What are we debating about folks

[turbid dome]

2 people said it on the news while being cherry picked by a right wing outlet who tried to spin it. This must be feminism!

[uncut tiger]

we should facilitate all women by buying them the most expensive dishwasher

[fallow shard]

Yea exactly, thanks

[turbid dome]

Genius I am one

[plain ruin]

Lessons need to be done on what feminism, misogny and misandry are

[slender coral]

This is not feminism, nor even misandry. Just pure stupidity lol

[plain ruin]

Even so, misandry is a more apt word than feminism is

[uncut tiger]

Is that why you stand for abortion

[turbid dome]

Yeah, I think the podcast and internet manosphere pipeline has broken a lot of people’s brains to not like feminism.

Ok, doing fine, now what

[plain ruin]

There are people who say "I'm a proud misogynist" with conviction nowadays

[thorny steeple]

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[turbid dome]

No, I stand for it on principle

[high rapids]

Lets invade france

[thorny steeple]

He's right

[slender coral]

I suggest we invade Austria.

[high rapids]

The reason: because we dont like france

[slender coral]

That feminists think men aren't needed to give birth 😭

Show me

[high rapids]

You dont even know where austria is

[thorny steeple]

There is no france anymore. This country is over 😂

[plain ruin]

link them

[fallow shard]

There's very clear line in-between of feminism, misandry and misogyny

Not that hard to tell difference

[slender coral]

Two feminists saying that, therefor the average feminist believes that.

Very good logic.

[turbid dome]

I think it’s partially motivated

[turbid dome]

I found a video of Andrew Tate saying something, therefore all men believe it

[slender coral]

If you are dishonest enough, you can blur the line between feminism and misandry.

[fallow shard]

Ofc but problem is that people can't tell the difference between misandry and feminism. Partially bcs SOME of the men are kind of scared of women

[thorny steeple]

33% misandry, 33% misogyny, other 33% whatever you want and everything will be alright

[slender coral]

You know what's the funny thing is, misandry despite how common it is to do it doesn't even match how damaging misogyny is. I remember I heard a saying, men should be grateful that women want equality not revenge.

Misandry is more complained about than what it deserves.

[fallow shard]

Feminism is still by definition movement that seeks to give women and men equal rights and chances

[thorny steeple]

Revenge? They are not capable

[fallow shard]

There's no "if" that's the case

[turbid dome]

I mean… my outlook is more pessimistic. It’s in the material interest of men to have more power over women. So men are motivated to disbelieve in feminism and believe in patriarchy

[fallow shard]

Idk how small your bubble where you live is but I've seen that

[plain ruin]

Sure
But its important that misandry is separated from feminism, so that the valid feminist movement isnt harmed.

[fallow shard]

LMFAO

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, bc they want privilege not equality

[plain ruin]

Both

[turbid dome]

Something you conveniently don’t want to do for your claim of what feminism is

[fallow shard]

What do u need? You can just go look it up

[turbid dome]

Isn’t your whole argument that feminism is about female supremacy based off of 2 peoples opinions?

[fallow shard]

I can't always handheld people to give them everything

[frosty dove]

People are serious here?

[plain ruin]

You're right;
Now link your proof, I asked you a while back and let it slide that you didn't reply

[eager lark]

Frrr

[fallow shard]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Get out. Keep you healthy brain out of this

[frosty dove]

Then this chat isn't for me

[turbid dome]

Both

[thorny steeple]

Get out. Keep you healthy brain out of this

[eager lark]

Kinda intresting

[plain ruin]

Common in reality or on shorts/reels/tiktoks?

[frosty dove]

[fallow shard]

LMFAOOO

Women cmon crank those numbers up

[thorny steeple]

They are jealous

[plain ruin]

😭

[turbid dome]

Do you have any evidence to corroborate your claims or are you just going to ask my opinion.

[slender coral]

Fr

[thorny steeple]

Don't waste you time with them

[plain ruin]

You made a claim that is based on social media anecdotes

Everyone else hasn't made a claim different from the status quo

[turbid dome]

Scroll up and you’ll see all the times you haven’t provided evidence, if that answers the question

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism

[hidden shore]

let us goo!!

[plain ruin]

Simple, that the garbage anecdotes you're watching, aren't what "feminism" is about

[hidden shore]

let us back to stone age

[turbid dome]

Woke Merian Webster at it again

[crisp garden]

everyone is a feminism

[eager lark]

No doubt

[hot trench]

[thorny steeple]

It is, except me

[crisp garden]

yeah were all lesbians so were feminists

[fallow shard]

Boo feminism or something idk

[crisp garden]

u like boys sybau’

[thorny steeple]

Hell nah

[turbid dome]

But it says fem in the word so supporting it isn’t masculine enough damn women

||joke||

[hot trench]

Why not

Men are cool

[crisp garden]

then u are a lesbian

[turbid dome]

The average American can’t read at or above a 6th grade level

[fallow shard]

LMFAOO

[thorny steeple]

Kinda

[plain ruin]

Is that because they actively talk to feminists or is it because these clips go viral and cause negative reactions from men on social media, further radicalizing both groups?

Such videos are over-represented

[crisp garden]

Kinda or not?

[turbid dome]

Popular opinion doesn’t determine reality

[thorny steeple]

Wait ✋️

[round canopy]

sybаu

[turbid dome]

If the average person believed the world is flat, is the world flat?

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately the average feminist is too naive and merciful

[thorny steeple]

Bye feminist

[crisp garden]

HOW

[rain lava]

Bro

[turbid dome]

You think I care about liberals?

[crisp garden]

sybаu

[round canopy]

it's a deep secret of mine

[plain ruin]

You're talking about people who're reacting to videos, saying these are equal to feminism

This is a different measurement than from measuring the average feminist's beliefs

[round canopy]

coping is cheating tho
I can copy strike you

[fallow shard]

We should give women superior place

I wanna see how that'd be

[turbid dome]

In this analogy, The evidence is already out there, it’s already been proven. The people simply believe it anyways.

[turbid dome]

I would be fine with it if it meant I didn’t have to hear the bullshit whining about feminism

[hidden shore]

fuck

[round canopy]

nothing would change in terms of corruption, economy and HDI
womans will have more rights then man that will appear as the only difference

[fallow shard]

😭

[slender coral]

Didn't the Finnish government have all women ministers at some point or something?

[fallow shard]

So second suggestion is nuclear winter

[fallow shard]

No but +50% of our ministers are women

[plain ruin]

Yes, vocal minority

The inverse is also true, in regards to science
Except that by using common sense and engaging in conversation, you'll find out that women agree that they're a vocal minority

[turbid dome]

Seriously, I’m only in favor of female supremacy if they create gulags for men who whine about feminism. They like to talk about how good men are at physical labor anyways…

[plain ruin]

Depth = 1

[manic juniper]

Because those women, like Sanna Marin, are Swedes

[high rapids]

@shy summit Im sad

Because you haven´t replayed

[turbid dome]

Sweden controls the world 🫡🫡🫡

[fallow shard]

Men are usually the emotional ones so you shouldn't be surprised

[slender coral]

The west has many countries where women hold much politcal power compared to the rest of the world, and they are doing pretty well under them. So I'd guess the world be better with women in leadership roles.

[round canopy]

what does it have to do there

[manic juniper]

"B-but I speak Finnish just like you guys!"
Looks inside
"Grew up in a Swedish speaking family"

[plain ruin]

Every group in the world is terrible at PR right now

[fallow shard]

Partially that but there are so many things contributing ti that too

[high rapids]

NO? WHATS ABOUT AUSTRIANS

[turbid dome]

I think it goes the other way around. Women being in leadership is a marker of how much they’ve advanced, not that women are necessarily better.

[fallow shard]

No more humanity= no more problems

[plain ruin]

social groups not national groups

[turbid dome]

Example 1: Margaret Thatcher 😭

[round canopy]

weather, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes?

[slender coral]

We saw this historically in other places too. Shajar al-dur led Egypt against a crusade and in the middle of a dire political situation and she won against them. We also have Hatshepsut from ancient Egypt which afaik her reign was prosperous and stable..

[manic juniper]

Imagine being forced to side with:

1. Bugmen from the East
2. Swedes

[cerulean pivot]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DQrtSz2jUDb/?igsh=MWZuN215ZWlyaHYyaA==

[round canopy]

wildfires?

[turbid dome]

You’re like wienerschnitzel Anschluss country

[plain ruin]

yes

[cerulean pivot]

Might be true

[turbid dome]

Alternatively inbred Habsburg ww1 starters

[manic juniper]

It's true, my grandpa sided with bugmen and then regretted it once everyone was executed by said bugmen

[high rapids]

You are american dont talk

[manic juniper]

No wait. There are less evolved than us

Same kin, but living in denial of their true roots

[cerulean pivot]

Russians

[plain ruin]

He's got enough IQ above average for an american that he's essentially European

[fallow shard]

Yea that's just not humanitys problel anymore if there aren't any left

[round canopy]

I agree on 32768%

[turbid dome]

😂

[manic juniper]

It is a problem if it hurts reptiles

[slender coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shajar_al-Durr#Defeat_of_the_Seventh_Crusade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatshepsut#Major_accomplishments

[high rapids]

na

[round canopy]

that's the least thing they do
they are much worse than Americans. my parents are from there not anymore thankfully

[fallow shard]

Fair

[manic juniper]

My mum too, she renounced citizenship

[turbid dome]

I can’t tell if this is a Russian liking their new apartment in Russia or if it’s a Russian Israeli in the West Bank 😭

[fallow shard]

B

[turbid dome]

Option C: genghis khans army

[plain ruin]

do they have to pay the andrew garfield tax

[high rapids]

traitor

[cerulean pivot]

Not anymore how

[fallow shard]

Fym traitor

[manic juniper]

One of the most competent pharaohs

[high rapids]

that's hate spreading

[fallow shard]

I don't associate myself w denial

He's different

[slender coral]

Say that to a misogynist and watch them cope.

[manic juniper]

What is that, was he Russian as well

[round canopy]

"братик" in this context does not mean "little brother". the suffix "ик" is diminutive affectionate form, and in this case it's used to make the world bother look/sound cute, not saying he's her lil bro

[round canopy]

they moved to the UK in 2005
they are polish btw

[manic juniper]

Yes I think it's difficult to translate it into English, it has no direct equivalent

[round canopy]

and she's an ugly ru-Tatar by the way

[slender coral]

Would you hear such a stupid term outside of the west?

[plain ruin]

Oh nvm
I'm talking about America
America has this tax law, no matter where you are a "tax resident" in, in the world, as an american, you still have to declare and potentially pay taxes to america on income earned outside America

They realised people were giving up american citizenship for this reason, a notable example was the co-founder of facebook (the one played by andrew garfield in that one movie)
So they made a tax, specifically for people renouncing american citizenship
And they named it after the facebook co-founder

[feral river]

https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1991285097450926136?s=46

The White House (@WhiteHouse)

It’s been a broken system for decades.

President Trump is the one finally shutting it down.

DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION: ABOLISHED.

Education to the STATES. 🔥

X · Nov 19, 2025, 11:18 PM

[turbid dome]

I mean it makes sense. Like if a black person joins the police, even though the police enforce white supremacy

[round canopy]

it is a bit tricky since English language doesn't provide those forms but you can say "pretty brother" or just refer him as cute, but not little

[feral river]

SHUT DOWN ALL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION NOW

THEY ARE SCAMS

[plain ruin]

I'm telling Marre

[cerulean pivot]

Mashallah

[manic juniper]

Isn't Andrew Garfield the actor? Does he share name with the co-founder of Facebook, that's ridiculous if true

I thought it was some sort of Spider-Man tax

[turbid dome]

It’s fucking insane but I would gladly pay the one time fee to avoid the income tax for my whole life

[plain ruin]

No, I forgot the guy's name

Elif is more of a race traitor than you are bro, she's a traitor of the turks

[manic juniper]

I miss the New Kingdom of Egypt's borders

[slender coral]

Wouldn't be "race traitor". That's a very big word why would someone have to feel a connection to the people who share their skin color?
In the case you mentioned one would say the person betrayed the African American community not the entire race of black people.

[turbid dome]

I mean it describes the same concept imo.

[manic juniper]

It would count as betrayal if Turks were their own race

[plain ruin]

In "action" maybe just the african americans

In theory, its still against the "black community" as a whole

[high rapids]

@fresh flower great country you have there

[manic juniper]

[turbid dome]

It’s less about feeling a connection and more about going against their interests.

[high rapids]

maybe start help your people before hate spreading in discord

That´s when the left wing party men shows his face who rather help migrants instead of his own people

[whole beacon]

hhmmmm

[slender coral]

I never seen anyone outside the west, maybe even only America, thinking in terms of race. Poeple when racist talk about nationality or ethnicity but not skin color, normally.

[high rapids]

And then criticized

[slender coral]

Who are you here for? Me?

Or Denial?

[whole beacon]

Nope

Neither

[high rapids]

I was talking about your people, and not about austrians

Why are you trying to switch the topic

Can´t face the truth

[slender coral]

@whole beacon ban this guy, whatever it is he is guilty.

[stone iris]

?

[whole beacon]

Alr did

[turbid dome]

Well in the west there’s a big racial discrimination issue, so it does need to be examined in some capacity

[whole beacon]

[slender coral]

LMFAO

Bye Oli

[crisp garden]

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭😭

[slender coral]

I guess I see where you are coming from

[plain ruin]

atleast olly's ragebaiting for fun whereas the others are doing it out of hatred

[uncut tiger]

what did i miss

[plain ruin]

olly banned

[uncut tiger]

@fresh flower

this is the only ollie ik

@fresh flower say smth

are you talking about olivander shawn

why can i ping him

[slender coral]

I'm guessing it was for the bloodline comment.

[uncut tiger]

alr he got banned

[slender coral]

What was it for then, trolling?

[plain ruin]

Cache, probably

[uncut tiger]

what did he do

[slender coral]

What were these about?

[uncut tiger]

@slender coral

[plain ruin]

I'll dm

[uncut tiger]

he used to call out the mods

||for e dating ||

[slender coral]

Idk I'm trying to understand as well. He used to troll very often here and before getting banned he said he wanted to delete Denial's bloodline.

[turbid dome]

Said something about the mods😭

[stone iris]

[uncut tiger]

@high rapids Why did you eat banana on his comment

[slender coral]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vSkxmJV0DyE?si=onvnBw4J6MFS55rT

[sweet rampart]

Hello @pallid flax
Nice to meet you.

[summer sphinx]

.

[plain ruin]

Shush...

You're out of it 😭😭😭💀

Chika bout to ban you bro

[summer sphinx]

Olly would ask me for feet pics dawg

[plain ruin]

I'm snitching to olly rn btw

[sweet wolf]

enghub stasi

[summer sphinx]

Sike biches

Bitches

[uncut tiger]

What did i miss again

[summer sphinx]

Bih

[plain ruin]

im tickling you bro

[summer sphinx]

Dih

[plain ruin]

he blamed you for the delhi blasts

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

[plain ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-weak-sauce-im-ded-dead-i'm-dead-gif-14585803140541155662

[sweet wolf]

carpe's a pakistani

pakistani hindu

[plain ruin]

0.00001%

[uncut tiger]

Wait why do you two have same names

[plain ruin]

trolling him

imma switch back this name SUCKS

[sweet wolf]

Imitation is flattery

[uncut tiger]

Yeah shawn

[sweet wolf]

carrying his aura debt wherever you go with that name

[plain ruin]

Who

[uncut tiger]

Imitation is flattery

What a saying I love it

[plain ruin]

Oh...

[uncut tiger]

why can i see myself typing

WAIT HEYYY

i thot ts was a glitch bro

[lusty zenith]

you lost your signature cat pfp

you look uggo now

[uncut tiger]

Ain't I hot Kimmy

[lusty zenith]

you're burnt

[uncut tiger]

I'm hurt.

[lusty zenith]

what's love without a little bit of a lot of pain

[uncut tiger]

Nice way of saying 'I cheated on you'

[lusty zenith]

trying to. But can't find anyone to do it with 😔

[uncut tiger]

Cheat with me

[lusty zenith]

you funny. Like that Pina Colada song

[uncut tiger]

[thin lintel]

Ion wanna study

I should study , I have math exam tom but Iono why in this peak timing ion wanna study

Help

[slender coral]

Don't bring brainrot to this channel pls

[mystic bay]

It is much too late for that

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-nezuko-tanjiro-gif-1729949214785977835

https://tenor.com/view/nezuko-demon-slayer-nezuko-kamado-kimetsu-no-yaiba-gif-5833263962802383681

[uncut tiger]

shit i blew my ballz off

[hidden shore]

Everytime i came to here i hope someone talk about religion

[austere moat]

Let's talk about religion what's your religion? And why do you think it's the right/correct, and if you're an atheist, what was your reason to choose atheism?

[thin lintel]

[hidden shore]

Who says i am atheist

[austere moat]

If*

[slender coral]

What are u then?

[hidden shore]

This is My god