🧠｜serious-chat

[wary oak]

Either way

Native and fluent are not the same

Nicaragua

[cobalt owl]

I’d suggest you to not fall into conclusions right away if you’re unsure about something

Mashallah

[wary oak]

Either way ur native tongue’s arabic not english

No

Native and fluent are not the same

Big difference between the two big big difference

[cobalt owl]

I speak English in a native level, I even went to a British school, now does that make me native/fluent even though I’m not native to the land?

[wary oak]

Grew up in English speaking country / lived in English speaking country (for English)

This means you interact with other natives frequently

Fluent is just being fluent

[cobalt owl]

😂😂

[wary oak]

Dude

[manic juniper]

Native level isn't the same as B2 and all that shit

You can have a worse English than B1 and still be native

[wary oak]

I speak Spanish at a fluent level, and grew up speaking it. My spanish is NOT NATIVE LEVEL because i dont live in a spanish country , and dont do all my daily interactions in it

[cobalt owl]

I’d love for you and welcome you to visit the khaleej

[wary oak]

What the fk is that

[cobalt owl]

The gulf

Arabian gulf

It’s a region

[wary oak]

Sure and meet all the other English natives over there

[cobalt owl]

Yes

[wary oak]

I literally am

Get any of ur friends who speak it to test me

Did u forget when i said i was biracial and latino yesterday

[cobalt owl]

We have a lot of people from the uk, Canada, the states etc, living here

[cobalt owl]

You’re funny😂

[wary oak]

Dunning Kruger but with languages

You aint heard me speak bitch

[cobalt owl]

What do you think my role should be?

[wary oak]

idc bro live ur life

[cobalt owl]

Then why so much drama?

[wary oak]

DR, barbedos

[wary oak]

Wait barbedos

Ik but theres other islands

in the Caribbean

[manic juniper]

Republica Dominicána

[wary oak]

How many boats does the bolivian navy have

Omegalol i am

[manic juniper]

What's the point of all these countries speaking the same language

[wary oak]

How u want me to prove it

[manic juniper]

Don't they feel like they are the same thing

[manic juniper]

Who are los baturros

[wary oak]

no perms for that

i genuinely would though

ill vc later

[manic juniper]

You can share it as a file

[wary oak]

Rather do it in vc

im at work

I’ll do it, just not at this exact moment since im leaving work soon

u guys will be proven wrong

why wont u just let me prove it in vc?

Bruh im not chickening out but im leaving work in literally5 mins and im not gonna weirdly step out and back in for this

I’ll be in vc later and prove it

Since i see ur always in vc im sure u will be around

brutus es un bobo gigante que no puede hablar español

un tonto enorme

Autocorrect

[frosty hearth]

Isfrun would you exchange 20 years of your life to spend 3 hours in the dinosaurs period?

[manic juniper]

What's the limit

[frosty hearth]

Like, starting now

[wary oak]

Hablo mejor en voz , mi gramática es una mierda

[frosty hearth]

Your age + 20

Ohh hahaha

[manic juniper]

No because by then I can hardly survive

I'd end up 65 if I do it twice

If I get an helicopter I will exchange as much as possible

[wary oak]

according to u that’s objectively not spanish since i dont speak it

[frosty hearth]

Which is your fav dino

[manic juniper]

Don't know, probably a toss up between Ambopteryx and Latenivenatrix

[noble raven]

Well, MrBeast did one of his challenges and gave a pilot a small airplane. Maybe you could convince him to give you the same.

[wary oak]

you think its basque or Galician?

[manic juniper]

Ain't no way that's Basque

[wary oak]

it might be castillian

eu tambem fahlo pt

but much worse

[thorny steeple]

hi

[wary oak]

Im a learner of Portuguese

[manic juniper]

It's Castilian since it's just normal Spanish

[wary oak]

Couldnt be

Spain and italy

[manic juniper]

Isn't it France and Spain

Their king is France's president or something

[wary oak]

i can ace any geography test on latam

[thorny steeple]

hi

wwhats up flat earther

[wary oak]

Landlocked

Bang

[thorny steeple]

when are you falling off the edge?

your not?

you were debating that gravity doesnt exsit lol

but i believe in globe earth

that was a typo

i forgot to add "not"

why were you debating that gravity doesnt exist?

[wary oak]

This Sheen fella, is a contrarian

[thorny steeple]

why were you debating that gravity doesnt exist?

why saying that gravity doesnt exist

and you did say

gravity doesnt exist in the end

[wary oak]

This guy woulda bullied our boy newton to death

[thorny steeple]

na

mrsheen aint that smart

he was defending flat earth

it takes like 1 second to prove him false

no

extraordinary claims require same evidence as any other claim

sure buddy

yea

same hard evidence as every other

everything required hard evidence lol

from a dog to god

from a law to theory

yea

[wary oak]

There is hard evidence to that

Source: history and various institutions stifling science and then science being right later

One example may be Galileo’s perception of planets

[thorny steeple]

bascially a mythical creature

[wary oak]

Do you subscribe to lastthursdayism

[thorny steeple]

a horse is not a unicorn

💀

im skeptical

of that

[wary oak]

im sure u would love lastthursdayism

[thorny steeple]

i would just believe in unicorns just by hard evidence

lol

thats sufficient lol

i wouldnt

believe in worlds best sciencist just bc he is best scientist lol

i already said it, hard evidence is he enough to warrent belief

thats a fallacy caledd argument to authority

or appeal to authority

nope

ill wait for peer reviewed papers

lmao tbh it would be called space and time hypothesis, if its going to be proven

and not a theory

lot of

yea

nope

equations arent hard evidences

but yea i can site

matter of fact there is a whole ass book

called quntuam mechanics go read one

of what book

and why

i never claimmed i did

💀

consensus of scientist

nope

im still on it

hard evidence is what i need

hard evidence like demonstrable or observable or replicable or reproducible or empirical or detectable

soft evidence like anecdotal or witness or testimonial

[golden jetty]

Whos coping

[frozen cape]

An ass book, nice

[slender coral]

Good morning chat

Some people pick the begginer role when they are good, some pick the advanced or fluent role when they are shit.

[frozen cape]

Good a

[slender coral]

@cobalt owl
What makes you believe in Islam, if you don't mind asking?

[frozen cape]

bro's leaving us hanging 😔

[slender coral]

He is probably sleeping.

It's 6:26 am in his country

[frozen cape]

ah, one of many who lives in the past

[slender coral]

He is an hour ahead of mine 😭

[frozen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-bears-cry-tears-stop-crying-gif-13093760

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/OXpKowV8uZI?si=UsNgigetIxSQMOMA

[frozen cape]

i want my native role removed so i can speak more willynilly without having to deal with pedants

[manic juniper]

I just liked the colour

[cursive sphinx]

Me too

[frozen cape]

I've changed it to dot colour

[high rapids]

Good morning

[vestal turtle]

LF someone to help me practice my English skills
Im Thai and Im currently in Thailand (Gmt+7).

[frozen cape]

I'm colourblind, certain colours in the default settings would make names unreadable

Yeah many times

[turbid dome]

You’re fluent lmao

[formal pilot]

And some people are superior, chillin with unique colour

[feral river]

I'm a beginner tell me how to speak english

I dunno how to speak

[turbid dome]

Lmao you’re fluent as well

[feral river]

isn't it make me more cute to have a pink color

[turbid dome]

Idk I don’t like pink

[feral river]

you are such a direct man

girls doesn't like such dude

[turbid dome]

Often to my detriment

[turbid dome]

A ton of guys don’t either lmao

[high rapids]

@turbid dome I'm a beginner

[turbid dome]

I’m gonna doubt that

[high rapids]

My english isn't good

[turbid dome]

I mean I haven’t seen you that much to know how good it is but I think you’re probably at least intermediate based on your typing

Idk your speaking

[humble vapor]

Could someone give me a Nitro because I can't afford to buy one?

[high rapids]

Don't you feel bad asking someone to buy you nitro on the same day you join the server? What's wrong with you?

[humble vapor]

Sorry Bro

[humble vapor]

I'm sorry, it's my dream to have nitro but I can't afford it.

[high rapids]

men stop trolling

[high rapids]

You're not here to learn English or improve your skills, you're just here until someone buys you nitro. Go to work.

[slender coral]

Drones are terrifying. I'm glad these fellas got rid of it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Z2aUL8VWaYE?si=Y1uMPptKxMOxCD2p

[frozen cape]

i don´t get it

[high rapids]

me either

[frozen cape]

is it a religious thing?

[high rapids]

yes maybe

[high rapids]

@slender coral Help us please

to understand

[shell hemlock]

it’s supposedly because muslims consider dogs dirty

[high rapids]

then don´t touch it

[shell hemlock]

touching dogs is fine but if you get licked by a dog (or touched by dog saliva) you have to do proper cleaning

because it’s impure

[frozen cape]

what but I know Muslims who own dogs 🤔

[shell hemlock]

i have a dog 💀

[high rapids]

Stuffed animal?

[shell hemlock]

just after wudu and during salat i keep my dog out of my room when i pray

[shell hemlock]

no

[high rapids]

wudu?

https://tenor.com/view/stars-voodoo-dallas-stars-voodoo-voodoo-stars-gif-18389774

[shell hemlock]

it’s cleansing before praying

[high rapids]

this

[high rapids]

what is salat

https://tenor.com/view/salad-mix-spoon-avocado-tomato-gif-11658055

you mean this?

[high rapids]

good to know

I was going to say the same thing, but then I decided not to.

[frozen cape]

so it's not an issue then, others are just less chill about it

[high rapids]

Why don't you let your dog pray with you? He could sleep while you pray in the same room.

[frozen cape]

bro don´t be silly, animals don´t pray before their meals, they go straight to hell!!

[high rapids]

?

[high rapids]

Can you prove that?

[shell hemlock]

some muslims avoid owning dogs in general as they are not allowed in homes

[frozen cape]

oh right i forgot #🧠｜serious-chat 🫢

[high rapids]

I was just asking

[frozen cape]

well i've yet to observe an animal praying

[shell hemlock]

my dog sit on my head when i am prostrating

[frozen cape]

look at the school uniform you poop!

stop breaking my heart

[high rapids]

But you certainly didn't look that closely.

[frozen cape]

well i wouldn´t know, i don't pray

[shell hemlock]

animals are different from humans

i mean ‘pets’ to be specific

[frozen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-secret-handshake-gif-24763988

[shell hemlock]

they don’t know what’s praying, what’s religion etc

[high rapids]

Oh okay

[frozen cape]

that's why we get to eat them 😈

[high rapids]

That´s a good question

I couldn´t answer that one

[shell hemlock]

do you think dogs have the mental capacity to read and write

[frozen cape]

i've never had the chance

[shell hemlock]

yes

[high rapids]

And why?

[shell hemlock]

because they’re innocent they don’t know anything

[frozen cape]

arghhhhhhhhh contains content blocked by the server my bum

[high rapids]

Is that what it says in the Quran, or is that your own opinion?

[shell hemlock]

where did u hear this💀

[hidden shore]

crazy shit

[frozen cape]

Cannibalism used to be practised here

[shell hemlock]

according to what scholars say, also from the quran

??

[high rapids]

Who appointed these people as scholars?

[frozen cape]

self-appointment

[shell hemlock]

they have proper education

[hidden shore]

humans never create a religion for animal kimdoms

[high rapids]

And then they can "self-appointment" themselves?

[shell hemlock]

no they cannot

[hidden shore]

normal, some animals are smart tho

[high rapids]

I saw an Elephant chasing a human to kill them does that count?

[frozen cape]

fake news, i´d believe it only if the octopus complained about some of the keys being out of tune 🫢

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/octopus-gif-19480555

[high rapids]

He looks cute

It*

[rain lava]

The comments

[hidden shore]

why they dont touch dogs

[high rapids]

"can´t touch them" is wild

[fresh flower]

Free Nobu
Free Abdul
Free all the homies

[high rapids]

abdul is muted again?

[turbid dome]

That’s just wild.

[fresh flower]

Idk if he's unmuted or not

[high rapids]

he got unmuted yesterday

[frozen cape]

you're such a rabble rouser 🙌

[rain lava]

U can scroll up to lilyhru wxplainations

[high rapids]

Send me sweets to Austria

[hidden shore]

why dog is considered unhygienic

[rain lava]

BAttery about to die

[rain lava]

I somehow agree

[hidden shore]

i can not get it their religious mindset

[high rapids]

me too

[frozen cape]

they don´t wash their paws with soap before they eat 😰

[turbid dome]

Superstition, we have handwashing now. The skin is there for a reason lmao

[gloomy frost]

They are more brain dead then you'd expect.

[high rapids]

hahahahhaa

[shell hemlock]

me with mah dawg

[frozen cape]

as you should!

[turbid dome]

Do female dogs have to wear dog hijabs so the male dogs don’t get tempted?

[slender coral]

Dogs are considered filthy in Islam.

[hidden shore]

[hidden shore]

why Dogs are considered filthy

[slender coral]

Their prophet didn't like them it seems.

[turbid dome]

Never trust someone who doesn’t like animals

[slender coral]

Fr

[turbid dome]

Doesn’t have to be in a pet owning capacity, just in general

[frozen cape]

you could prolly claim this about every animal out there

[hidden shore]

maybe in history prophets died by dog rabies🤣

[turbid dome]

Brain eating amoebas can’t pray can they

[shell hemlock]

he is praying

[frozen cape]

they can after eating a religious brain

[slender coral]

It's a sad thing tbh. Some folk in Muslim countries tend to be harsh with dogs because of that religious rule.
Not cruel but y'know, not liking to feed them or let them wander in their area.

[turbid dome]

Yeah I hear stray dogs is pretty common

[slender coral]

They also don't get dogs as pets, and if they do they have to keep them out of the house.

Just for guarding.

[turbid dome]

Dogs are super domesticated, at this point it’s best for them to be pets compared to left outside

[hidden shore]

poor dog

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-holding-flower-gif-5334994179370395420

[feral river]

delicious

These low class species

[high rapids]

You saw my dm?

[feral river]

What

I don’t usually check dm

[high rapids]

ok ok

[feral river]

Oh i see

You ask me how would I think well it’s complex

I don’t know what to start

[high rapids]

Just start

Take your time

[feral river]

Nice place nice people nice leadership

🇰🇵

[high rapids]

I had expected much more.

[frozen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[feral river]

My total impression and based on general analysis I would say it was a country with full of potential

But it’s hard to say if they really had something to grow besides stealing crypto from major banks and crypto trading platform

[high rapids]

It doesn't look to me as if there is much potential there.

[feral river]

Stealing business, sell weapons and technology

Also they have a total clean society which is no foreign influence involved and their leaderships basically controls every corner of the state

[high rapids]

Lets travel there together

[feral river]

Every person has limit but only based on the true power they hold I guess it’s Xi

Trump doesn’t have very much power because of their institution and democracy

Putin doesn’t have more power than Xi

Who else

[high rapids]

Von der leyen?

[high rapids]

Ursula von der leyen*

[high rapids]

@feral river

[feral river]

Not kidding at all North Korea has one of the most og hack team in the world

Wym idk if he’s going to have another administration

There’s no indication for a next administration for him

For the final goals would be dominate the world by our influence and expand our territory

Just like Nazi Germany

But we don’t have to go to war right ?

[cerulean pivot]

One day everyone will be forced to speak Chinese

[feral river]

We use debt trap with economy control

[high rapids]

True i saw there an documentation

[high rapids]

It´s so smart

[frozen cape]

Nice

[turbid dome]

I would think that the risk of overextension is too great and so ideally retake Taiwan and the South China Sea region and then do more puppet/client states. I would guess client states would make more sense though

[feral river]

The greatest failure of the United States is they don’t launch war to conquer like Nazi Germany

When they hold full capability to do that

[high rapids]

They lent money to neighboring countries for dams and built them with them, but as far as I remember, the official Chinese belong to a certain year, and these countries now have to pay back the money in installments.

[frozen cape]

US bases in the Philippines though

[feral river]

They are going to regret that anyway

[turbid dome]

Yeah, well the US is slowly collapsing and is overextended, if they play the waiting game they will be forced to back down

[feral river]

They are going to fail in the order they established

[high rapids]

@feral river What do you think about Ursula von der Leyen?

[turbid dome]

China is growing its power as the US shrinks its own, it is inevitable

[feral river]

Imperial expansion is true indeed most efficient way to conquer territory and seize interest for a very long time

You can have everything to be established based on it

[turbid dome]

China has let many of them off free, knowing they now have more soft power. Purchasing power isn’t half bad for them

[high rapids]

Then China will close the dam and the country will have less electricity and water?

[slender coral]

It won't be Chinese, it'll be Arabic.
The pan-Arab dream will come to life.

[feral river]

The US led global order was a very brief weak order based on strength control which gives the nation a chance to challenge it

[turbid dome]

No way lmao

[feral river]

Ngl our rule is way worse than Americans

I promise you

I mean for you guys

[slender coral]

Won't happen, ching chon chun.

[feral river]

That’s racism

[slender coral]

Sorry 😭

[high rapids]

How dare you

[feral river]

The reason is you don’t enforce your power on whoever challenge you

[turbid dome]

Yup

[feral river]

If you occupied Afghanistan situation in middle east won’t be this bad

Nope

We don’t have inflation problem at all

[turbid dome]

The US does that and we’ve failed.

It’s because China controls the means of production, it’s the global manufacturing hub.

[feral river]

Well we do have inflation as a very regular rate

[high rapids]

Ask @feral river about that. But as far as I know, it is stipulated on paper that the “dam” belongs to China until a certain year. So they can do whatever they want if the countries don't repay the debts.

[feral river]

Not really the issue, the problem is the politicians in DC

Your biggest unstable factor is politicians in DC

And fucking democracy

[turbid dome]

Well, the system of government has made them inherently too corrupt to do anything worthwhile

[feral river]

Democracy built the United States, now I could say Democracy failed the United States in the future

You can’t even believe how tf that was weak asf

An institution allows their politicians throw money above all, an institution gives a fucking chance to stupid losers follow some basters to make a nation suck

[turbid dome]

Yes, it’s making the cost of goods go way up here

[feral river]

During a fucking great purge by Stalin nobody dare to steal a penny of ruble from the government

[spiral turret]

hey y'all I'm about to crash out on my speaking professor, this dude is running on my nerve frfr

he's ego-ing me so bad, like the most insecure perfosser I've ever come across with

he told me i can't hold a fcking conversation in English in daily basis topics.

is this dude gaslighting me??

bruv the teacher doesn't let noe one talk in a class that Is titled with speaking/listening

ofc i can

I mean I can hold a convo on things I'm informed by, including daily basis convos

[high rapids]

Listening and reading are no problem for me, but writing and speaking are.

[spiral turret]

nah he keep complaining that y'all suck without letting us talk, its not a lecture

[high rapids]

How do you manage to learn more and more vocabulary?

[spiral turret]

DO YOU GET WHAT IM SAYING??? HE AIN'T LET YS TALK IN SPEAKING CLASS

i got 20 out of 20 last semester

this is straight gaslighting

[high rapids]

But then you're so full of so many words, should you write them all down?

[spiral turret]

what if he cut off your thinking process by instantly saying "BEEEB, UR WRONG, NEXT PERSON"

I don't appreciate a place that put pressure on the students than trash talk on them that why they're muted in the class. this is literally called gaslighting

[high rapids]

That´s what I meant only write those words down which I am unfamiliar

[spiral turret]

a moan?

I see

lol

bruh i wouldn't think the only subject I like is gonna turn to a humiliation ritual

true

[thin verge]

Tf

Nher

[spiral turret]

he's also fat

I mean what you said wasn't some out of box thinking, you kinda rationalized it

[slender coral]

Bro has an account dedicated to this 😭

Oh, got banned.

[spiral turret]

lmao bruh, not sure about that one

😭🥀😭 will I pass with this method chat

[thin verge]

Hellossss

Yallsuppsu

Where are u from

Whats that

Oh cooll

Whats good

Im from india

Northern

No near kashmir u know kashmir???

Yyea im fromm there

West

North west near Pakistan border

Its not that safe and there's ceasefire declared bw india and Pakistan so Its safe for now

Like in war time the government told us to move to safer places

[high rapids]

You can always move to MrSheen´s place

[thin verge]

Can i?

Ig im.ok here

[high rapids]

ofc

[high rapids]

okay

[thin verge]

Ywa

[clever trellis]

Hello, everyone!

Nice to see you.

??

Nobody is with me?

[lusty zenith]

Nope

[clever trellis]

Oh, thank you.

[violet sorrel]

hello

[clever trellis]

I am from Kazakhstan.

Wow!

East by China.

Do you know well?

.....

[thorny steeple]

most of them are ass

[gentle wagon]

Ass? Where?

[thorny steeple]

donkey

[gentle wagon]

Why being mean?

[thorny steeple]

stop believing smth you dont have evidence for flat earther

[thorny steeple]

no, donkeys are ass

[gentle wagon]

Oh I don't like that

[thorny steeple]

thats what i mean when i say ass book

i dont like em

immoral ass books

[gentle wagon]

You're talking nonsense to me

[thorny steeple]

im talking how a book can be immoral

[brave cloud]

the book?

[gentle wagon]

How?

[thorny steeple]

it advocates for immoral things

like slavery

[gentle wagon]

What book is this

[thorny steeple]

bible

exodus 21:1-3

[gentle wagon]

I see

[brave cloud]

thank u

[thorny steeple]

2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.

L

only smut readers read that

[near blaze]

Sorry what
No I'm talking about the concept of metamorphosis

[near blaze]

??

??????

[thorny steeple]

im being silly

[near blaze]

Ah that's where this is from

[austere moat]

You wanna talk about it

[brave cloud]

oh okey i thought you were saying the book written by kafka

[near blaze]

Confusion

[near blaze]

Sure

[gritty echo]

Franz Kafka

[austere moat]

What do you think about him?

And his family?

[gritty echo]

https://tenor.com/view/sabbath-jewish-transformers-jew-transformer-gif-11144982

[near blaze]

Is this about the book or the author

[austere moat]

Do you think we are all like him? Like roach? If we're not providing something or adding value, are we not worth it?

[gritty echo]

Yes,

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[austere moat]

Gregor Samsa, I'm talking about him

[gritty echo]

If you become an oblomov there is no point to give you a value

Saying my mind is down, everything is against me and other shits it is just destroying your life, this is only one life not more and living it like nothing , the biggest stupidity I believe

[austere moat]

He lost his existence yet he was worried about the shame his family might face because of his metamorphosis so who's the real monster? Him or family? society

[gritty echo]

Him, he can be shown himself too

But he didn't

[near blaze]

Wdym

[gritty echo]

I mean if you are a cockroach now, you are a cockroach, everyone should be accepted to what you are now

Otherwise you cant live with this feeling

It will eat your mind

It will destroy everything you got because of these feelings

[near blaze]

It's like his body became a bug

But he could still think with the complex rationality as a human could

[gritty echo]

Well if I become a bug , I will be getting cash from it to make business

[gritty echo]

It is the point

[near blaze]

How 💀

[gritty echo]

But he chooses to be nothing

[near blaze]

You're not able to make cash in your human form but you'll do it as a bug

[thorny steeple]

Is this serious chat

[near blaze]

Hahaha

[lusty zenith]

It tries to be

[thorny steeple]

im sick and tired of this life

goodbye people

[thorny steeple]

I seee 🤣

[gritty echo]

Just imagine you are a cockroach, you have radioactive protection one of the hardest things is killing you, you have a shield and tons of power and speed, you can be like superman or something

Or just getting to be an actor

[thorny steeple]

😭🤣😭😭.

[gritty echo]

Just imagine that, movie makers don't need to make up because you are already

[thorny steeple]

Let ozgur cook

[near blaze]

Cockroaches don't have radioactive protection

And before you can even talk to the director

Some fella gonna smash you with their shoes

💀💀

[thorny steeple]

Oo mannn

[gritty echo]

But their cells divine more slowly

It is the fact,

[gritty echo]

You just think the worst if you become a cockroach you will probably like Kafka one

[near blaze]

Doesn't matter

You still gonna die

[gritty echo]

You don't know how you are having fun

[thorny steeple]

Kafka?

[gritty echo]

Bored mines

[near blaze]

Cockroaches have an average lifespan of like idk a few weeks

[gritty echo]

Franz Kafka - Metamorphosis the writer of the book

[gritty echo]

Nah not a few weeks

[near blaze]

No way you think a cockroach is living a better life than human

[gritty echo]

Some can live for 10 years or 2 years

[near blaze]

Months maybe

[gritty echo]

It depends on the spicy

[near blaze]

Not 10 years no

SPICY ROACHES 🔥🔥

[gritty echo]

Yeah giant borrowing cockroaches

[thorny steeple]

Metamorphosis and
The Trial 💀

[gritty echo]

Can live like 10 years

[gritty echo]

Sure spicy to get more hot

[near blaze]

Only if they're like sitting idle their whole life

Dumb cockroach

[thorny steeple]

Where u from

[plain ruin]

They do

[gritty echo]

It is not hard to guess

[plain ruin]

In people's heads, that is

[thorny steeple]

Pakistan?

[gritty echo]

Bruh

[thorny steeple]

Most people i found from Pakistan in this server

[gritty echo]

Bruh

How many Pakistani people did you see used ö and ü in their names

[plain ruin]

How do you see the Ö and think Pakistan

[gritty echo]

?

[thorny steeple]

Some used japnese name

[thorny steeple]

Ok turkey

@gritty echo man tell me

[plain ruin]

Let me guess, you're from India

[thorny steeple]

Who

No

[plain ruin]

You, who else?

[gritty echo]

.

[thorny steeple]

I knew it

[plain ruin]

Interesting, then why'd you previously tell someone you're from India😭

You don't need to feel bad about it, I'm from India myself

[thorny steeple]

I told someone that I'm from Turkey too 😂😂

[thorny steeple]

Oh

[plain ruin]

Lmfao

[thorny steeple]

But I'm not brother 😭

[plain ruin]

Then, where are you from, if you don't mind, that is

[thorny steeple]

No i don't want

[lusty zenith]

Your punctuation is nice to see

[thorny steeple]

To reveal

[plain ruin]

No problem with that either! Don't ever feel bad to deny answering a question

[thorny steeple]

Ok!!

[lusty zenith]

Oh wow. Respectful conversation? In EngHub?

[plain ruin]

Yeah, I wasn't raised in India
The last couple or so generations of Indians born in India are not doing so great with English

[lusty zenith]

Scientifically impossible

[slender coral]

Happens sometimes.

[gritty echo]

[lusty zenith]

If I don't see it with my own eyes, it doesn't happen

[plain ruin]

In #🧠｜serious-chat it happens everytime the dudes with nigh radical political views aren't online

Depends on time of day

[gritty echo]

I need this dog

[plain ruin]

"Ben Turkiye"

[gritty echo]

The John wicks real dog

[plain ruin]

Question to you, since you're turk

Would you say John Wick loves his dog more than the average Besiktas fan loves Besiktas?

[gritty echo]

Average Beşiktaş fan loves Beşiktaş more then Muslims love Allah

[plain ruin]

😭

[gritty echo]

You can say it for any football club in Türkiye

[plain ruin]

I just remember waking up one day and seeing my IG feed filled with every player in the world allegedly signing for besiktas

And it kept getting more and more prevalent

[thorny steeple]

hi

[thorny steeple]

why you banging you cuh?

[near blaze]

Girl

[high rapids]

@feral river Have you ever eaten frog legs?

[thorny steeple]

girl-

[plain ruin]

I said this right after #🧠｜serious-chat message
I wanted to see the reaction the guy would give

[thorny steeple]

i have eaten somene else

[high rapids]

true you are blocked now

thanks for nothing.

[thorny steeple]

couldnt care less

[plain ruin]

They're like chicken I think

[high rapids]

I've seen them at the Chinese grocery store in my town, but I've never tried them.

[plain ruin]

My parents told me I had them, I was asking them about this one "chicken dish" I had when I was maybe 12, in France, they said it was frog

Turns out frogs are popular in quite a lot of places
But in a lot of countries they're also endangered so there's also a stigma against them

[thorny steeple]

💀 vro ate frog legs

[high rapids]

nobody asked you

[thorny steeple]

lmao why you lookin at my message? didnt you block me?

[high rapids]

i did

??

[thorny steeple]

are you in china?

[plain ruin]

How is the Indian judging frog legs? Arguably, north east indians consume more frogs than the French

[thorny steeple]

oor amazon river

[plain ruin]

I've never really watched it

[thorny steeple]

whose indian?

[high rapids]

Oh now i get it

[plain ruin]

You seem to need to learn a lot, they're a delicacy in many places, inside and outside of Asia too. France is known for frog dishes.

[thorny steeple]

naruto is L

[plain ruin]

I don't think we have to go over this again, basically every active user here knows you already

[thorny steeple]

im sorry for frog eaters

[thorny steeple]

which of them is indian?

[thorny steeple]

i asure you do

nope

[high rapids]

Maybe next time when I´m there I buy frog legs

[thorny steeple]

whose worshiping cows lmao?

how can someone be so irrational lol

they aint even god

[plain ruin]

And back to this, yeah they're pretty good, though I'm talking about a different cooking style

To me, tasted like chicken, and I think its the same for a lot of cases, but I think the texture was less meatier, which is why I liked it so much, that dish was really easy to bite into

[thorny steeple]

how is that relevant to me? lol

new zealand

[plain ruin]

You do remember the time you told me that you stay in Mumbai, correct?

[thorny steeple]

u?

[thorny steeple]

lmao thats a deleted user not me

[thorny steeple]

i have never been in mumbai

[plain ruin]

Since this was brought up, no hindu "worships" cows
They're seen as revered, although that's subject to interpretation, given the low quality of life and care for the average cow in India apart from slaughter

[thorny steeple]

kaveing

[thorny steeple]

they do

💀

[plain ruin]

Sigh

[thorny steeple]

skull emoji

lmao how does that says they worship cow?

[plain ruin]

Yes, this is true, I'm not entirely sure if it's a new trend because of the recent Gurus, or if it was practiced in old times in villages

But I wouldn't call it "worship" of the cow itself

[thorny steeple]

that just says they do smth wiht poop, how does that make it they worship cows?

you got any evidence?

ur just asumming stuff

major correlation = causation fallacy

dont send some edited vid pls

literally looks ai

😂

[plain ruin]

I think you're misunderstanding their main reasoning
Cows are considered revered, because they were said to provide milk, which is used to make many things used by indians such as ghee, curd, sweets, etc.

[latent steppe]

holy sub 80 iq detected

[latent steppe]

aint the 5 holy cow products milk ghee curd piss and shit

[thorny steeple]

your detecting machine needs working

[plain ruin]

Puja itself is a ritual, it isn't explicitly for "Gods" either

[thorny steeple]

yet people all over the world mostly use cows

it is cooked bc its ai

[latent steppe]

bro is NOT a new zealander

[thorny steeple]

look at the thumbnail lmao

[latent steppe]

[thorny steeple]

ikr

they could never

[plain ruin]

The piss and shit stuff, I don't actually know if it's some new creation because of trying to monetize their waste, or if it was an actual practice done

[thorny steeple]

mary wasnt an non human like cow 😭

looks ai

[plain ruin]

Yeah but you gotta consider the local context too, cows would be more popular for milk in the region, and they'd produce a higher yield of milk

[thorny steeple]

shes wasnt even real

its all a myth

[plain ruin]

It isn't, that's a wide lens camera, watch the video for like 5 seconds

[thorny steeple]

thats THE point

[latent steppe]

this guy so stupid 😭😭

[thorny steeple]

ikr

[plain ruin]

I wouldn't say that Mary or Cows are "worshipped", but both are revered to the same degree, sure

[thorny steeple]

like how can you

[latent steppe]

u should actually consider donating urself to scientific research

[thorny steeple]

ikr people worship anything

stones, cows, frogs

you name it

[thorny steeple]

they the real ones

tbh worship itself is immoral

pretty much

lmao stupidass

cermonies

atleast worshipping you own mother is more logical then a cow who didnt even birthed you

😭

i hope people in future becomes more rational and stop worshipping anyone

they wouldnt die, if they dont

so they dont need

[plain ruin]

My point is the equivalence, they aren't done at the same level
Cows are "revered" in a weird way. They don't want you to kill them and eat their meat, but they don't mind millions of diseased and weakened cows to roam on public roads in cities, swarming with flies around them.

#🧠｜serious-chat message
I get your point, but it's just at different levels
For example the "Hail Mary" prayer is still not treating Mary as equivalent to God itself in Christian culture, she's seen as someone who may be more human and intercede for humans. The same way, cows aren't treated with the same respect as Gods in the hindu cultures.

[thorny steeple]

people dont vanish when you stop worshipping

[formal pilot]

Mahmudiyah R and killings - Wikipedia https://share.google/dQh7lzvAKiaaTSQxO

[thorny steeple]

lmao anther correlation = causation fallacy

[formal pilot]

F mericans

[plain ruin]

The ceremonies aren't the worst offender at all mate, you can buy their poop/piss online and have it delivered to your home by the top pharmacies

[thorny steeple]

community dont need religion to survive

humans have existed wihtout religion for 100 of years

lol

what good is a belief when its not a truth

[plain ruin]

Yes, but in the same respect I'd say that they also "worship" their Gods even more than they would with cows

I'm aware, I'm aware, they're even getting into pubmed, they're sponsored by the religious government to do and say a lot of things
The quality of their studies are weak though, I took a peek at 2-3 of them

[thorny steeple]

religion is divisive more then it connects

[plain ruin]

I'm talking about it in terms of effort, they put more effort into their gods than the cows

[thorny steeple]

again what good is a belief if its a lie

[plain ruin]

Explicitly in terms of "worship", and not care

[thorny steeple]

this is the hardest quote i have dropped in a while

[plain ruin]

Makes sense, I'm speaking in terms of the terminology they use, in which they don't considered cows as gods
There are only "3" supreme gods in hinduism, each of which has reincarnations and then there's minor gods
But even then, all of their "gods" are each individuals with names and not just the whole species

I think this is the main distinction they use

[thorny steeple]

you again missed the point

religion is not a truth component

[plain ruin]

That would be more apt
And then, the practices aren't also very widely adopted (such as the cow poop festival thing)

There are gurus that are going on national TV saying that Indian cow dung can be used for "skin" and other health benefits and diseases and whatnot

But festivals like in the video, are still much rarer

That's interesting
It was already on my watch later, might see what it's about then

[thorny steeple]

lies leads to misery

truth is independent

truth is virtue

truth collects people

lmao also your advocating for a lie

😂

vro is advocating for delusion

willfully

[plain ruin]

Nice try though

[thorny steeple]

😭

[thorny steeple]

try what?

yea

delusion

you know what it leads to?

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/11-bright-people-with-one-dark-secret/article24428709.ece

[plain ruin]

Aren't you being delusional yourself by denying your own heritage and evidence?

[thorny steeple]

"my delusion says i need to kill my babies bc they need to get in heaven"

[plain ruin]

Holy shit the number of ads

[thorny steeple]

https://people.com/andrea-yates-lawyer-flowers-children-grave-exclusive-11691942

[plain ruin]

Oh was this one of the mass s**cide families?

[thorny steeple]

mother killes her childrens bc she got convinced of her babies will go to heaven if she does

this is what lies lead to

[frozen cape]

that woman is a hero 🙌

[thorny steeple]

i think she is disguting

lmao thats how cult end up

nope

thats why i believe in truth then a delusion any time

and its demosntrably true a world ful of truth is more better then a world full of lies

Whats going on here

can we handle it now?

[plain ruin]

This seems moreso along the mental illness lines, this guy didn't even bother reading the story
It seems to be psychosis due to grief after the main perpetrator's father died, he believed his father to be talking to him and giving him instructions for 11 years, and then got the instruction to do this

Wonder what happened this guy and "correlation = causation fallacy"

[thorny steeple]

also what is this reason, believing in lies bc i cant handle truth

thats already a bad reason

for believing in stuffs

sure then go ahead and believe in lie

im more moral then that

the greater wellbeing where religious wars cause death of 1000s

a mother kills four of her chilrens

nice well being

a famile mass suicicde bc thye get convivned of a lie

secualr countries like europe which are more happy

[plain ruin]

Again repeating the fallacy, unknowingly

[thorny steeple]

😂

[plain ruin]

What a time to be alive

[thorny steeple]

anyways, my conceding point by believing in as much truth as then false

i didnt even say atheism

i said secular

😭

thats false

bc the world in religon have cause massive religous wars

yea

religion is based on lies of assumtions

[frozen cape]

stop breaking my heart

[plain ruin]

Yet he argued that Macs were better than... Sigh

[thorny steeple]

i require evidence

you maybe require faith

i dont

faith is the answer whe nyou dont have evidence

no

nature works in a way

which sceince understand

and makes observable, demonstrable, reproducible results

science is the one most reosut method to find truth

and you have no method to investiagte god claims to even make it true

No, I'm making an inference based on how many times a thing has given me a result in the past in same order, to conclude it will do the same tomorow

gravity wont vanish tommorow

no

it rquires confidence based on evidence on how many times it has given the results in past

again faith is the excuse you give when you don have evidence

thats why people believe in god wiht faith

and not evidence

confidence based on evidence of how many times it created the same result

if i remove evidence the it will be faith

yeah you stil dont get it

evidence is not faith

cause your not listening to my words

faith is when i have no evidence

faith is beliving in stuff without evidence

yes

[fresh flower]

Holy cornball

This bum is always throwing a fit about religion

[thorny steeple]

The senses of my eyes and consciously talking to you over Discord, which i used to talk to you over Discord for a time span of 30 mins and the memory of consecutive recognized your messages

if i say faith, then i would say no evidence

[chilly crest]

Holy moly

[thorny steeple]

thats how you debate a hard solipcist argument

[fresh flower]

All this philosophy just to be a waiter

[thorny steeple]

yeah

thats why i relied on my memory

and eyes

and i can also call my mom and text her if she is seeing you chats, which will be independent evidence of you existing and talkign to me

i can't observe your consciousness, i have no way to go inside your mind, im just conscious about my brain awareness

And I can say you're conscious bc you're able to text me. If you weren't conscious, you'll be braindead and not be able to text me

i ddint deny that

the question you asked was "do i exist"

and i did prove that

with evidence

without faith

[frozen cape]

you guys are still at it 😕

[thorny steeple]

i can, cause if youre in my fragment of imagination, i can control you, lol, which i can't so your not my figment of imagination

you framed yoru question opposite

i cant prove that im a figment of your imagination

but i can prove your not my figment of my imagination

which i did

you should be

thus, its not in my figment of imagination.

cus its independent of me

anyways where or not i can prove that im not a npc stuck in your mind, i can still prove a religion is a lie

and i concede that here.

sure go ahead believe in a lie willfully

lie

cheat

[muted pecan]

whats the topic rn

[thorny steeple]

be dishonest, i would love to see how good a world full of lies, dishonesty, cheaters would look like

[marble seal]

It already is lel

[thorny steeple]

exactly

[fresh flower]

The usual, atheists throwing a tantrum about religion

[muted pecan]

yeah most of people need something to belive in to just stay sane, thats pretty normal

[thorny steeple]

thats why im advocating for most truth and least lies

as possible

[marble seal]

but it has nothing much to do with religion

[muted pecan]

because it is lmao someone is just delusional and seeking attention

[marble seal]

The people cant handle the truth....that much is true

[thorny steeple]

it has, religion is based up on assumtions of lies over another

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pesado-dios-mio-stressed-problematic-oh-no-gif-12622815322168322147

[thorny steeple]

how come europe is alive?

they dont believe in a religion

matter of fact they are the most happy nations lol

[muted pecan]

do religious people hurt you? did they murdered your familly? do they harrass you irl? dont think so

[manic juniper]

Most people are still deists

[marble seal]

If you tell a normal as person about climate change and how bad it is...they dont want to listen...heck they dont want to comprehend

[fresh flower]

Yall talk more about religion than religious people

[thorny steeple]

theres a thing called religous wars, faith killing

[marble seal]

heh...................religious freedom =/= atheism ......

[muted pecan]

in europe????? nahhhh the fuck are you talking about

[manic juniper]

Internet Explorer

We haven't had religious wars in centuries

[fresh flower]

He blocked me because his arguments folded 💔

[marble seal]

We do...They are just on discord and reddit now

[fresh flower]

It's so hard being me fr 💔🥀

[thorny steeple]

i said they don believe in religion or god and they still able to live and more happily

[muted pecan]

yk its 2025 now, right? just because idk 5 countries maybe do that, doesnt mean you have a right to shit on every religion existing

[manic juniper]

They believe in god wtf

[shell hemlock]

is pooping moral or immoral

[thorny steeple]

lmao im not even religious

[thorny steeple]

i do

[muted pecan]

shut the fuck up then????

[fresh flower]

It depends on the existence of a bidet

[thorny steeple]

religons causes reiligous wars

[marble seal]

Sorry to burst your bubble here lil buddy.....but a ton of people are religious here

[thorny steeple]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/11-bright-people-with-one-dark-secret/article24428709.ece

[manic juniper]

The only exceptions are Czechia and Estonia

[thorny steeple]

which god am i worshipping in science?

😂

[muted pecan]

god of delusions for sure

[shell hemlock]

you drink aloe vera ?

[thorny steeple]

scienc is metholdogy not a agent or entity

[shell hemlock]

sister diet

[thorny steeple]

its really just a method

i already told you science relies on evidence no faith

religion require faith and not evidence

we already agreed on that i thougth

[shell hemlock]

oh… golly i’m allergic to aloe vera i’ll prolly die

[marble seal]

It really doesnt

[thorny steeple]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/11-bright-people-with-one-dark-secret/article24428709.ece

[austere moat]

Victim blaming noice

[thorny steeple]

https://people.com/andrea-yates-lawyer-flowers-children-grave-exclusive-11691942

[shell hemlock]

that’s so cute

[thorny steeple]

a mother kills five of her children bc she got convined of a lie

[marble seal]

Ive seen some dumb arguments...............this ones in the top 5

[shell hemlock]

here you dropped this 🧠

[austere moat]

You turned it into some funny shit and I don't like it

[frozen cape]

no you

[thorny steeple]

anyways i dont need faith i rely on evidence

[austere moat]

It was existential dread

[muted pecan]

how does that prove that every religion out there is worth shitting on

[thorny steeple]

bc its made of lies

[marble seal]

you are mixing philosophy and science........but ig you were ignorant enough to make that argument so you dont know the difference

[muted pecan]

why tf do you care, let people live their lives

[thorny steeple]

they are pretty much connected

[thorny steeple]

believing in a lie, is what i find th problem

[muted pecan]

everyone belives in fucking lies, its impossible not to

[shell hemlock]

wassup twin (i just woke up from a nap and forgot i still exist)

[thorny steeple]

its demonstrably better for everyone to live in a world with as many truths and as least lies as possible

[shell hemlock]

that doesn’t work

[marble seal]

wow.....did they teach you that in 5th grade?

[thorny steeple]

i asure you religious people sure do

[shell hemlock]

and you know it

[thorny steeple]

thats why i said, as much as possible in truth and no absolute truth

[frozen cape]

it's sleepy time for me soon

[thorny steeple]

religions have caused more harm then good

[muted pecan]

....then dont be a part of one maybe?

[thorny steeple]

can countries with no religion are performing better like europe

[thorny steeple]

lmao its like your finding excuses to live in lies

[muted pecan]

countries like what, because religion is still pretty much alive in europe

[thorny steeple]

💀

sure buddy

[muted pecan]

lmao

[thorny steeple]

europe is super religous like middle east

[muted pecan]

so i wont ever know what countries?

[thorny steeple]

😂

[muted pecan]

one example, come on

[thorny steeple]

and middle east is surving really better with more religionous polution

[muted pecan]

yeah probably, since when europe aint religious lmao

[thorny steeple]

no wars in middle east east

for sure

[muted pecan]

yeah sureeee

[thorny steeple]

and tons of them in europe

[muted pecan]

thats straight misinformation right there

[shell hemlock]

why do most atheists i talk to are always concerned about who does or doesn’t go to heaven, is it the fear that they will be missing out because they aren’t a believer ?

[muted pecan]

...if they worry about whos going to heaven, they arent atheists

[thorny steeple]

anyways secular countries perform better then religious that was my point

i would live in eruope then syria anytime

[muted pecan]

please go for it

[shell hemlock]

that’s the thing, if they are atheists then they don’t believe in heaven or hell

[marble seal]

jesus christ im talking to a kids here or something. If you bother to actually use whats up there between your ears its obvious that modern science has little to do with classic philosophy.....even if they share the same roots of thinking about something doesnt mean that they are the same ...science was developed out of philosophical reasoning and then it went its own way

[shell hemlock]

but they also always bring up who will or will not be in heaven or hell

[muted pecan]

yeah if they were atheists and actually didnt belived in heaven or hell, why tf would they care whos going to imaginary wonderland? girl it doesnt work like that

[shell hemlock]

europe is a continent twin

[thorny steeple]

pretty much

[marble seal]

Bro using words he doesnt understand

[thorny steeple]

science is one hella of a robust method humans have creaetd to find truth about relality around us

the fact that your able to use discord is based on scientific study on how internet works, how electricity works from miles and miles away

is just astonishing

[marble seal]

and sure logic is not truth..........uve also very obviously never dealt with even a basic college level logic class

[thorny steeple]

best methodology anyone has created

[thorny steeple]

i think you can use logic and reson to find truth

And you can use illogical arguments to lead to false

[frozen cape]

good thing i don´t 🙌

[thorny steeple]

and lies

[shell hemlock]

i guess so, i haven’t met that many atheists personally, even online, irl i have never met someone who definitely don’t believe in god since i live in a buddhist country it’s pretty diverse and everyone holds some sort of spiritual beliefs whether its like i don’t know the term but some sort of pseudoscience stuff

[marble seal]

Nope...you are making that jump. Im saying logic itself is not always true.....ever heard of basic ass vacuously true statements ?

[shell hemlock]

imagine you are doing lottery and stuff, some people could look at a farm count some sheep’s in their dream

[muted pecan]

yeah maybe you should meet more atheists before making a statement about atheists then

[marble seal]

No.....logic nowadays has very little to do with philosophy

[shell hemlock]

i was talking about atheists that i have met on discord

[muted pecan]

that probably wasnt even atheists and they lied to you

btw @shell hemlock can we stretch this conversation a bit more, i want to get lvl 10 here 😭

[shell hemlock]

maybe

i don’t even know if people practice what they preach on here

[marble seal]

Shoot me dead the day I turn religious ....cuz that possibly couldnt be me

[shell hemlock]

sooo anywayy

dunno what to talk about

apparently mole rats are blind

[muted pecan]

real atheist wouldnt give a shit about anyone going to heaven or hell, because our "beliefs" clearly state that none of that even exist, thats kinda a definition of atheism

[muted pecan]

yk also white ferrets are blind most of the time, also if i remember right most tricolor cats are female

how lmao

[shell hemlock]

well i do question if atheists sometimes wonder if heaven and hell does exist and that they would fear it

[shell hemlock]

i think white ferrets are albino

[hollow iron]

@abstract night good morning

[muted pecan]

well idk about rest of atheists, but personally, if i got even one evidence of this shit existing yes, i'd be scared shitless, because well it exists after all

no evidence tho, so why even care about this

[marble seal]

and you are larping being jordan peterson with his bad arguments

[muted pecan]

that doesnt anwser shit tbh

[hollow iron]

What's the topic this time?

[muted pecan]

uhhh atheists and albino ferrets ig

[shell hemlock]

have you ever wished hell on anybody ? like maybe someone that made you mad or smth

[marble seal]

Hes dumb af and falls apart as soon as anyone educated comes up against him ..........kinda like charlie kirk

[muted pecan]

well i probably would if it was real but no, my to-go curse is actually glitter in car and pouring milk on couches

[marble seal]

same vein of bullshit

[hollow iron]

Did I show up too early to talk about the email case involving Trump, or have you guys already discussed it?

[marble seal]

emperor's new clothes ahh person

[shell hemlock]

what’s the email case involving trump

[muted pecan]

besides, even if someone os religius - wishing they go to hell just because they made you mad? jesus thats harsh

[muted pecan]

WHAT EMAIL

ahhh damn

...well it kinda looks like he is there doesnt it

im like 97% sure

and i dont even live in USA

[hollow iron]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/politics/epstein-trump-emails-oversight-committee