🧠｜serious-chat

[shell hemlock]

which country are you from ?

[muted pecan]

well in chrstianity it would be good, they'd have to be nice to everyone, respect people and mind their own business, sometimes trying to tell you nice things about bible and thats it

well not counting children sacrifices, but non-christians would be safe

[shell hemlock]

fr i love this role and the pfp 😭

[swift crest]

Who said that?

[shell hemlock]

why can't you remarry ?

[swift crest]

No they do remarry In india

[true lark]

Not all Christians do that...

What normal Christians sacrifice children wtf

[swift crest]

What did I do? 😭

[true lark]

That sounds like something satanic

[swift crest]

Well what's your religion?

[muted pecan]

now they dont, but following bible to the T means they would have to start again

[true lark]

Life time, the life ended didn't it?

[true lark]

Ahh yea

[swift crest]

It's sanatan

[true lark]

True satanism isn't even that bad

[swift crest]

Their what?

[shell hemlock]

whats sanatan ?

[true lark]

True satanism is closer to the witch religions

[swift crest]

You mean which*?

[muted pecan]

satanism is fucking dope, just treat yourself as the most important thing out there, watch out for your wellbeing and make christians mad, it aint even about satan

[true lark]

No, witch, forgot the exact name but both use like herbs and artifacts and believe they hold both good and bad power that people can utilise, as well as some goat person that did some shit

[muted pecan]

oh thats wicca actually

[true lark]

That yes thanms

[shell hemlock]

would liberals be considered satanis

[true lark]

I am bad at names

[crystal kayak]

Dude you are back

[muted pecan]

thats not satanism not even close

[true lark]

I know it's not, I was comparing it to the original satanism

That's the"dark" ones

[swift crest]

That's not sanatan afaik

[true lark]

Not the good ones

[true lark]

I know it's not, omfg I was comparing it, not saying its the same.e

[muted pecan]

most of them do tarot readings for 20$, that scares you?

[true lark]

I know wicca witches aren't satanists

[true lark]

Yes, scares my empty wallet

[muted pecan]

ykw let me do a tarot reading for you

[true lark]

Satanism is simply very similar to the dark wicca stuff

Goats, sacrifices, objects with power

[muted pecan]

oops

[shell hemlock]

i thought satanism is just an opposing religion for christianity

[hoary glen]

It's the same; because resources are limited and there's no birth control, any extra resources (land or pasture) are quickly divided among a larger population, and women born into poor families are considered a burden.

[muted pecan]

XVI Tower, youre fucked

[true lark]

Really? Feel free to explain

[crystal kayak]

Do you believe witches exists

[true lark]

Irrelevant

To the anthropology anyways

I have had to one on one experiences so I could not tell you

[true lark]

Antro?

Idk, culture study

[muted pecan]

yeah maybe cancer, maybe drone attack, you fucked tho

sowwy 👉 👈

[crystal kayak]

Not the ones made up by Hollywood I mean real witches

[true lark]

I am thinking that the person you referred me to is ignoring me

[true lark]

Yes, it is not relevant in comparing their beliefs

[shell hemlock]

there's a lot of people in vc rn which usually doesn't happen but it's the weekend yea

[muted pecan]

depends what type of satanism, some are fr about worshiping the devil, some are just for fucking with chrstians and making them mad

btw did you know that gynecological speculum was finally redesigned after 100yrs because no one cared?

[shell hemlock]

people who actually worship the devil they are mostly just edgy 😭

[crystal kayak]

Here in Africa they are so many of them

[muted pecan]

if someone is satanistic to the point of sacrifice for Lucifer i think theres a bit more to it than being edgy

[true lark]

I think I was talking about a different type of witch but I do quite like a lot of the African religions

[shell hemlock]

but lucifer doesn't serve them y would they worship him

[true lark]

Especially the people sacrifice cults

[muted pecan]

yeah blood magic is a huge thing in christianity in general, ofc its also important in sacrificial satanism

[true lark]

Cause girls keep rejecting them and they just want to wreak havoc

[muted pecan]

....god doesnt serve people also, thats like... the opposite...

[shell hemlock]

he doesn't give them anything

[muted pecan]

i bet he gives them as much as any god does - pure zero

[true lark]

People also think God gives you nothing

[shell hemlock]

we are talking about shaytan

shaytan's intention is only to make u rebel and do bad things

[muted pecan]

yes there is a number like that

[shell hemlock]

why worship that ?

[crystal kayak]

I don't think it is even a religion it is like a cult

[true lark]

Cults are religions not officially recognised

Same thing

[muted pecan]

god will put you to never ending torture if you disobey him, why worship that? girl it literally works both ways

[crystal kayak]

Well they are dangerous they need to be captured and jailed for life

[shell hemlock]

god forgives, i don’t think shaytan does

[muted pecan]

said abdul

[true lark]

Not all satanic cults are dangerous but yes a lot are

[muted pecan]

none of that exists anyways, why do you care what someone belives in? they have a right to do it as much as you do

[crystal kayak]

African ones are dangerous they perform black magic

[shell hemlock]

it’s a topic that peaks my curiosity, nothing offensive

[muted pecan]

because im atheist and i say he doesnt exist, abdul.

[swift crest]

Does it work tho?

Just wondering no offence!!

[true lark]

There are a few of the cults that are more like a club where they meet every Friday to play games or something

[crystal kayak]

F it does

[crystal kayak]

I am not a performer of black magic why would I be offended🤣🤣

[true lark]

Satan is the Prince of forgiveness as you can do no wrong under him

[muted pecan]

what the fuck does that even matter here

[true lark]

But also the "forgiven" state is still hell 😆

[swift crest]

😬 how do you know it works?

Where r u from?

[muted pecan]

yes, because satanism exists only in middle east, well said bro 🤣

also internet doesnt exist and no one can do research

[true lark]

North korea

Um

[muted pecan]

you know what "example" is?

[true lark]

Chad Republic as well probably

[swift crest]

Asia

[muted pecan]

ty ❤️

[shell hemlock]

yep exactly my question

[crystal kayak]

The things I heard and witnessed

[swift crest]

You witnessed black magic?? 🤯🤯🤯

[crystal kayak]

People here do it alot

Especially over love

[hybrid herald]

Even if i change my server name, my username is always akenyy
@ akenyy

[swift crest]

Over love???

Very MUCH

[crystal kayak]

Yep if you still don't believe in black magic come to Africa

[swift crest]

No thanks 🙏🙏🙏

[crystal kayak]

Don't the ones in India work

[swift crest]

Never in my entire life did I see someone do blackmagic here

I have heard of it
But I am too scared to know more about it
So...

[crisp garden]

@gaunt canyon talk here

[gaunt canyon]

Add me

[crisp garden]

talk here

[gaunt canyon]

What shobohaat did u have and why did u kick me

[crisp garden]

i didnt kick u

i deleted the Vc

[gaunt canyon]

Why can’t I join it or view it

Ok

What doubts did u have

It’s better in dms in case others r affected

[hybrid herald]

Cheikh Yasser 🤩😍

[gaunt canyon]

الله يحفظه

[hybrid herald]

Amin

[crisp garden]

Its in the past
but it was bc i thought Allah prioritized men over women 💀

akeny

[hybrid herald]

What

[gaunt canyon]

Hahahaha loool

[crisp garden]

hello

[hybrid herald]

Hi, wsp

[gaunt canyon]

Did u listen to people quoting the ayah
الرجال قوامون على النساء

[crisp garden]

I said it was in the past
of course i did

[gaunt canyon]

U know if u read a bit more u will know why
بما فضل الله بعضهم على بعض

The men have to take care of (financially)the women

[crisp garden]

i know 🙏🏻

[crisp garden]

The ceiling

[gaunt canyon]

And also ولرجال عليهن درجة is referring to responsibilities

[crystal kayak]

Wise of you,I too stay far away from those things

[gaunt canyon]

Is that ur only shobohah

[hybrid herald]

Ic, here the sky

[gaunt canyon]

And also the ayatoddayn about the two female witnesses is coz women back then were rare to be in the tijaarah sector

[crisp garden]

u out?

[crisp garden]

meh yeah

[gaunt canyon]

U left islam over that

😭 😭

[hybrid herald]

i was, now i arrived
So yes the ceiling

[crisp garden]

I didnt leave islam completely

[crisp garden]

twin

[gaunt canyon]

“I’m not a Muslim”
That is the words of riddah

Khiyaanah

[crisp garden]

whatever i still believed in Allah

[gaunt canyon]

The qoraysh believed in Allah

[crisp garden]

where were you

[gaunt canyon]

The jehovah witnesses believe in Allah

Still koffaar

[crisp garden]

aight dude

im better now alhamdulillah

[hybrid herald]

I was in my city walking, for 1 hour and half

[shell hemlock]

like black magic ?

[crisp garden]

alone?

[gaunt canyon]

Walakin we have to have odhr biljahl since u r young and ur a girl
And girls think emotionally

[hybrid herald]

Yeah

[shell hemlock]

you have same color as him

[crisp garden]

Sad, u couldve brought a lil friend w u

[hybrid herald]

Oh yeah
I am still akenyy
And i am a gk

[shell hemlock]

wait nessah u left islam ??

[gaunt canyon]

At one point apparently

[hybrid herald]

I don't want to ngl, it makes me slower and i go for a walk to relax and to think alone

[shell hemlock]

shush you man i am eating ice cream

[crisp garden]

aight nice

[shell hemlock]

ohh but she is guided back alhamdulila

[gaunt canyon]

@crisp garden Well do u wanna read Quran together in vc for a bit at least

[hybrid herald]

Enjoy, it is kinda cold here so ice cream season is done for me

[shell hemlock]

yeahh we should have quran reading

[crisp garden]

u do that i listen

[shell hemlock]

omg the muslims r in here now

[gaunt canyon]

Do u wanna?

[shell hemlock]

yayyyyyyyy

[gaunt canyon]

Make a vc or something we can all do it

[shell hemlock]

after isha ok

[gaunt canyon]

What time is it for u sister?

[hybrid herald]

6 pm

[gaunt canyon]

Ur in a great server

[hybrid herald]

For her

[shell hemlock]

it’s 6:12

[gaunt canyon]

When is 3sha2 for you

[shell hemlock]

6:50 isha

[crisp garden]

shoo

ill invade this chat fr

[gaunt canyon]

Ok @winter echo @crisp garden @shell hemlock @hybrid herald do u all wanna make a Quran vc

Not compulsory to read if u don’t want walakin we should

[hybrid herald]

Go ahead

[gaunt canyon]

Ok all the people I pinged add me

I’ll make a group chat

[shell hemlock]

okays

somebody told me to leave taif

yk that srver akhi ??

[gaunt canyon]

No I don’t

[crisp garden]

eng hub ❌
muslim hub ✅

[gaunt canyon]

Alhamdolillah

[hybrid herald]

Just now, you will find islamophobe dw
Just wait

[gaunt canyon]

Add me anyway

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[gaunt canyon]

Shia?

[shell hemlock]

they said taif r haddadis

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[shell hemlock]

i didn’t leave the server though

[gaunt canyon]

Knew it

[gaunt canyon]

Sister u know a lot for a girl. The fact u know what haddadiyyah is and u have the Quran tag makes me think ur knowledgeable

Most girls online r having boyfriends and stuff but u masha2llah seem like u know what ur doing

[thorny steeple]

There is no difference between the two sects. We are both brothers in Islam

[shell hemlock]

i’m far from knowledgeable 🗿

[gaunt canyon]

Ithna 3shari? Do you do سب الصحابة?

[thorny steeple]

تعالي / تعال خاص نتكلم افضل بالعربي

[turbid ivy]

She is not knowledgeable, and she is dating

[slender coral]

I heard they granted some women the right to lead and fight.

[gaunt canyon]

What?

[thorny steeple]

????

[turbid ivy]

of course, everyday she talks about dating and husband blah.. and she havent read the quran infact

[slender coral]

hmm

[gaunt canyon]

We will see

[thorny steeple]

Our doctrines say that we should not insult the companions

[slender coral]

You guys kill each other wdym

[gaunt canyon]

I didn’t respond to u before coz I don’t want to talk abt this now wallah

At least u aren’t from the rawafid

[turbid ivy]

you can test her,, btw she flirts a lot with men.. so i think she is looking for a boy friend

[gaunt canyon]

Who lily?

[plain ruin]

The "Corinthians" verse is from the letters from St. Paul to the Corinthian Church. This is actually an order/teaching, compared to the Ezekiel verse, and its a MODERN teaching (Post Jesus, St Paul was among the first Romans to convert to Christianity)

Ezekiel on the other hand, I don't think I have to open the chapter, I already know that this verse is comparing the Jewish people to a woman who is committing adultery, this was after the Jews were conquered, he's known for such prophecies
all of this text is poetic/metaphorical comparison, but the wording is drawn from the common belief at the time, that beyond puberty is when sex is permitted

[turbid ivy]

Of course, who else

[thorny steeple]

Well, let's not enter the doctrines into the subject, we only speak English here to practice speaking in English

[slender coral]

He mentions the breasts forming. A Christian told me it means the age of consent doesn't come before they are fully formed, in other words the girl would be around 16.

@turbid ivy

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭
Did he use this verse to justify that? It clearly says "He's not sinning if she's past puberty, even if he thinks he's "behaving improperly" towards her"

[gaunt canyon]

You are Muslim?

[plain ruin]

From bible gateway @slender coral

[turbid ivy]

Zipporah is the Ethopian woman.

Now, yes, that shows people are imperfect. Lemme quote something

Genesis 2:24
New International Version
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

[turbid ivy]

Christian

[gaunt canyon]

Ahh that’s why ur name is waraqah binnawfal

[slender coral]

I see.

[plain ruin]

@slender coral It's not just about
"he can marry her if she's past puberty"
It's also indirectly saying
"As long as they marry, if he's getting worried she'll get older... It's fine"

[coral belfry]

there are differences
we have to acknowledge them and respect them

[crisp garden]

Spreading misinformation is crazy
Lily is looking for a husband.

[turbid ivy]

What do you tryna say?

[hoary glen]

Mongolians have no tradition of women leading troops. The only woman I know of who led troops in battle is "Manduhaisiqin," but this is just one example.

[slender coral]

I really feel terrible for women, man.

[gaunt canyon]

He is a kafir don’t worry

[slender coral]

It seems like they got it rough everywhere. Deprived of autonomy like that, I wouldn't have endured it.

[plain ruin]

What you won't 😂

[turbid ivy]

Okay, so if you think it's a child marriage, can you come up in a vc and actually debate on that?

Btw nowhere it's talking about child marriage

[plain ruin]

"Think"
Sigh.

[latent steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/6-7-albert-einstein-67-six-seven-calc-gif-7721896420449253217

[turbid ivy]

dont be a coward, dude.. can you able to come up in a vc and actually have a conversation like men do

[latent steppe]

WHAT IS THIS DIDY BLUD DOIN ON YHE CALCUALTOR

[plain ruin]

What was the usual age of marriage during and right after the time of Jesus LMAO

It's that simple

[turbid ivy]

More than 12 actually. Wanna have that conversation?

[plain ruin]

But it was still under 18 and 16 though

""

[turbid ivy]

It's been different different unstable in the first century,, if you talk abt Philo, he gives the different marriagable age, btween 28 and 35, some shows 13 to 18, some shows late 20s, or around 30, some shows after 12 years

[plain ruin]

Still
At the end of the day it's still "allowed"
That's why your arguments don't make sense

[turbid ivy]

About what in exactly? What if Paul is saying it's 20s? because at that jewish differes in marriagble ages

[manic juniper]

Didn't they only have authority when it came to horse herding? It's still important but not as much as wars

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lmao-teeth-roflcopter-guy-togi123-togi123-lmao-gif-14627655394872001288

[plain ruin]

He's not saying any one specific age though
If he's saying 20s he would've said the same 20s everywhere
Pretty simple

Nothing says it's not allowed

[turbid ivy]

He is just giving the general marriagable age that she have to be matured..

So, what's the age of maturity?

[turbid ivy]

Well, if she is not able to consent, it's abuse.

show me where child is supposed to be abused?

[plain ruin]

End of the day, the first official child marriage laws were made a couple hundred years ago, not from Christian scripture

[turbid ivy]

Paul actually advised them to stay single if possbile

[gaunt canyon]

True

[turbid ivy]

Where is child marriage in the bible?

[plain ruin]

Where is it banned...? Lol

[turbid ivy]

is child marriage abuse of a child?

[turbid ivy]

where it is allowed?

[plain ruin]

There we go. Yes actually, children aren't really capable of understanding marriage and such acts.

[plain ruin]

That's the point. There's no ban on child marriage nor explicit allowance. Example of morality we developed outside of Biblical texts.

Iirc Jesus did not allow divorce except for cases where one partner was adultrous

[turbid ivy]

Ohh so they cannt consent? Everytime we see marriages in the bible, we notice women do sent, and they are called women.. in the gospels a 12 years old is child,, therfore, it's a category of a child, but a woman falls in a different category.. if 12 is still a child, 15 16 is still supposed to be the child not even adult.. therefore, the marriageable age exceeds over 20

[turbid ivy]

So you dont have any sources to say child marriage is allowed?

[plain ruin]

We don't know if they did consent. The authors were not always the women themselves, they were always 3rd parties.

[hoary glen]

Yeah, in the era of cold weapons, men had a significant advantage over women in warfare.

[plain ruin]

Not really sure. Iirc I just mentioned that statement from a saying by Jesus, there may be more working around it, but generally, no

[turbid ivy]

We dont know? you dont know cause you havent read it,, why dont you re read that in every marriage that they women actally do consented

Show me child marriage in the bible?

[magic olive]

What did I miss

[plain ruin]

@slender coral can you see this😭

[turbid ivy]

why dont you come to the pc,, if you are so smarty?

[turbid ivy]

Okay, now lemme criticize your moral position,, what was the age of consent in your country before 1000 years ago in Qatar?

[plain ruin]

The books define women/children by stages of puberty, given their use of language at the time.
While we in English define women/children by a certain number of revolutions around the sun (also known as years)
Completely different things to compare

[gloomy frost]

you guys are getting married damn.

[turbid ivy]

So, do we actually see any child marriage in the bible? can you show me that verse

What's your claim?

[manic juniper]

Why are you blaming him when you did yourself

[plain ruin]

a. I'm not arab at all
b. I'm not muslim at all
Making those clear before you say anything stupid again

c. I'm not trying to say that either religion is "innocent" of the act. I just find it stupid that you keep on talking about Islam and child marriage while Christianity is no different.

Why did you make an alt? That's not right to begin with.

[turbid ivy]

Doesnt matter, which country do you belong to? Lemme go 1000s previous to country and let's see your standard

[turbid ivy]

Show me child marriage in the bible

[turbid ivy]

What's your moral standard?

[plain ruin]

Oh no, I do agree that even back then it would've been wrong.

[turbid ivy]

So it's wrong based on what moral standard?

Keep in mind, im not saying it's not wrong, im asking you your moral standard to know somehting wrong or right

[shell hemlock]

how old was rebecca when she got married in the bible ?

[turbid ivy]

I am

[turbid ivy]

How old was she?

Lemme ask his moral standard to criticze religion

[plain ruin]

Women weren't even considered important enough to have their ages recorded, in both testaments.
Even then, through evidence using multiple verses to ascertain time periods/number of years, we know enough as such.

You should've just made your point in the #muted room instead of pretending to be someone else

[manic juniper]

Ban evasion and undisclosed alts are against the rules

[turbid ivy]

Do you see women being treated with no value in the bible? im not talking about the ungodly society.. im talking about the bible, do you see, the moral laws treating women specifically unfairly in the bible?

[turbid ivy]

Is murder wrong?

[plain ruin]

It's wrong on the basis of simple truths we've found out through psychology and neuroscience, that on average as human beings, the parts of our brains that are involved in making critical/lifelong decisions aren't matured until a certain number of years.

[manic juniper]

If the mods allow it otherwise they'll get banned

[plain ruin]

You can talk to the mods there about why you were muted

[manic juniper]

I don't see what's the point of having alts

[manic juniper]

And this account I'm using is an alt

[untold thistle]

Bro, they allowed that in Britain too.

[plain ruin]

But you see, that's my point. Why would they write about how they treat women to begin with? Most if not all writers of the books are in fact male to begin with.

[turbid ivy]

So you are claiming to say it's wrong and the justificaiton is they suffer.. now, what's wrong if they suffer? what justifies it as wrong?

[turbid ivy]

They are not my God

[plain ruin]

Yes. There's a channel for muted people to be able to talk to mods.

[plain ruin]

HUH

[turbid ivy]

khyhaha,, show me where the women are treated unfairly? in fact in the bible, men and women are created in God's image, it's not just the man that is created in God's image, it equally values women..

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/t8dVIUiIuIE?si=sRsCJr0IKHXNn6FF

[turbid ivy]

Not huh.. what justifies suffering as wrong/ khyah

[feral river]

The only cybercafe in NK 🇰🇵

[plain ruin]

A verse was just posted, literally

[untold thistle]

Morality is subjective, and the laws against pedophilia are a modern invention.
Now, I am not saying that it should be condoned; however, you should look into the history of other countries than Arab ones too.

[plain ruin]

You're escaping the point
Both Christianity and Islam don't ban child marriage, its like, that simple

[feral river]

LRWEITP

Your piece of shit in some freaking fictional books has no any fucking enforcement to make people follow that ass

[plain ruin]

I don't know about that then. I only know about the #muted room

[turbid ivy]

Where show me

[feral river]

And these backward ideology will be exterminated by time

[plain ruin]

By your crush, she posted 2 verses now

[shell hemlock]

my least favorite verse

[turbid ivy]

no no, since your moral standard is better than the christian or islamic position.. show me your moral standard? What justifies suffering as wrong?

Since you are an atheist,, you dont have anything no morals at all

[feral river]

Who said that our atheists doesn’t have moral

[untold thistle]

💀 Atheists can develop moral codes based on their own emotions, culture or experience.

[turbid ivy]

Okay, so murder are like this are not wrong? So suppose a guy named Yakhi murders your family memebrs what would you do?

[feral river]

Our moral is already materialized, it’s the F-22 on the head or the nuclear submarine in the ocean

Or the 7.62mm bullet out of my fucking AKs

[plain ruin]

Did I say my moral standard is "better" ever?
I have simply pointed out the fact that you're hypocritical, and that you don't derive morals solely from the Bible

Please learn semantics

[turbid ivy]

Oh so if he wanna communicate, tell her to unblockme and we can have a conversation ina vc

[untold thistle]

I don't see how this is relevant to what I had told you.

[turbid ivy]

Oh based on own emtions.. now answer the questions that i asked you what would you do if a guy named Yakhi murders your family memerbs?

[feral river]

Ask Hamas about their fate in Israeli Gaza

🇮🇱

Hail State of Israel

[shell hemlock]

they r scary by the way they r treating women

[untold thistle]

Bro, I don't even see how this is relevant..

[turbid ivy]

SO you dont have a better moral standard than them?
If so is child marriage morally right?

[plain ruin]

Those things aren't written ofc

[turbid ivy]

It is relevent,, what would you do when a guy naked yakhi murders your family memebrs?

[plain ruin]

Learn semantics

[untold thistle]

Explain to me how my own moral code is relevant to what I told you.

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lmao-teeth-roflcopter-guy-togi123-togi123-lmao-gif-14627655394872001288

[manic juniper]

2009 ass meme

[plain ruin]

If you can't even read English right, then you should spend time in other VCs

[feral river]

You don’t do child marriage because of the law enforcemnt rather than some fucking moral standards

[shell hemlock]

this verse refers to rebecca who was like 12 btw

[turbid ivy]

Because dont claim the athiest society is supposed to be the best society, or do you prefer religous socieity?

[feral river]

Nobody gives a fuck or use moral standards to do something in reality

[shell hemlock]

some people say rebecca was 3

[untold thistle]

Bro, I never even told you any of this??

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

LRWEITP

[turbid ivy]

Why do you need to force your subjective openion on others?

[feral river]

Because I can, I hold fucking guns

I want dominance and expand my interests

So what

[turbid ivy]

Is the atheist society better than religous society?

[feral river]

Can you stop me with your moral ?

Can you stop a 7.62mm bullet by praying to Jesus or Allah

[turbid ivy]

@plain ruin this is your athiest society,, so what? so what if he murdres someone?

[plain ruin]

See, that's the thing, he doesn't understand semantics

We're saying one sentence, he's trying to extract an entirely different meaning from our statements

[untold thistle]

I don't have the proper research for that. This is not my field of expertise.

[feral river]

What a crap

[manic juniper]

Only if the book he's holding is thick enough

[feral river]

Lmfao that could be case

[feral river]

It is the society we all living in

[shell hemlock]

how u look typing that

[turbid ivy]

what research would you wanna do?

[feral river]

Survival for the fittest

[untold thistle]

Smh, I am just gonna study.

[plain ruin]

It isn't "my atheist society"
Minecraft believes that any human group that has power can do whatever they want, that's not a common atheistic belief.
@slender coral look at this guy

[feral river]

They will do anything they want if they had power to shape the world

I do what the fuck ever I want cuz I’m rich

That’s the fucking world lmfao

Cry about it now we get your ass

[turbid ivy]

That's his subjective openion, let's a guy is doing that,, what would you do that? Becauase you both dont have the objective truth? would you gonna force your subjective moral values in the name of justice to force on him? C'mon that's your society

[feral river]

🇨🇳

[turbid ivy]

@plain ruin see the audacity of the athiest society

[feral river]

Glory to a dead empire doesn’t make you better off

Stay under that poor ground

[feral river]

Say that to our nuclear weapons

And chemical weapons, space weapons

[gaunt canyon]

Trump worshiper here

[feral river]

Radiological weapons

Womp womp

Can’t even try to waste another second to some loser

[plain ruin]

Let's say that I agree with your statement (I don't because you have many holes in your argument/lack of considerations)

If you believe that you have "objective truth", you still would have to reconcile and agree that Christianity's "objective truth" does not say child marriage is sinful.

[feral river]

Survival for the fittest

[feral river]

Try hard I live in a second most powerful state on earth

Let me see who can enforce their belief on us

Who control the guns, who rule the world

Who has the most power, who is justice

These fucking losers are nothing but our chess or playground for our games

L

[shell hemlock]

fun fact neither the bible nor the quran mention ages of marriage

it's based on how people interpret it

[feral river]

Live under that cycle of our game is pathetic

But they don’t have any choice cuz we are powerful

[shell hemlock]

some say aisha was 15 in the quran, some say rebecca was 12 in the bible

[feral river]

Womp to the fucking womp of that reality

[turbid ivy]

Again, i gave you correlated passages, women getting in marriage are the grown up women,, that's they are called women. because jesus uses the word women and children.. children them who is 12.. so obs 12 is not the marriageable age according to the bible. It's not even adult that proves my point that they should be above 20 .

NOw do you have anything?

[feral river]

There will come a day they will all knee down beg for life under our great domination over the region

And we will make world great again

🇺🇸 🇨🇳 🇷🇺

[plain ruin]

It's a wild ride to claim that either book says it's "wrong" though

Nobu is complaining about child marriage being wrong, and even said that children without fully functioning frontal lobes "can consent"

Why is Nobu using "atheistically derived morality" to criticize Muslims then? 😝

[turbid ivy]

According to your most authentic sunnah she was 6.

NOw can you quote me any sources in the bible that Rebecca was 12 years old.. infact we notice REbecaa was able to pull out the waters from the well, and feed 10 camels.. that proves her strength that she was not a child..

[shell hemlock]

he has double standards lol

[turbid ivy]

Come to the vc

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-bench-press-pumping-iron-gif-24602679

[shell hemlock]

arguing about age of marriage from 1000+ years ago in the big 2025

[plain ruin]

It's translated to women and children in some versions of the translated Bible. The original meanings have always been related to puberty.

[plain ruin]

"B-b-but come to vc since I can't actually directly admit I use atheistic morality"

[shell hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-gif-22000151

[plain ruin]

It's funny to laugh at Nobu's sheer recklessness and ignorance

[slender coral]

Some theists talk as if we have a holy book like them or something.

[hoary glen]

Nobu recounted various things about Muhammad, but in my view, he was simply trying to illustrate one point: Muhammad was just a normal person from the sixth century AD.

[slender coral]

Their ideal societies are misrable, religious countries are misrable, even American states that are religious within the federation are more misrable than less religious ones lol

[plain ruin]

He wasn't at any point trying to do that, his intention has always been to say "Look, Muhammad bad"
Without talking about his own religion

[slender coral]

Very often, yes.

[feral river]

at least he support Israel

I respect him for this point

[plain ruin]

I don't think that's directly linked to religion
I think politicians started using religion as a tool to divide and control people.

(In the case of politics in the last few hundred years)

[plain ruin]

Abdul, you don't seem to understand Minecraft's philosophy
He worships everyone/anyone that is in power, that includes the Japanese Emperor that was responsible for the killing of the Chinese.
He doesn't care about his identity.

[shell hemlock]

this is abdullah’s room when he move in

[turbid ivy]

Obs not i checked the greek, these are two different categories one is woman, and different one a child.. it proves my point

So what do you have abt your moral standard?

[hoary glen]

Alright, The premise of a "bad person" is that he is a human being, Lmao

[plain ruin]

Source the translation then, use https://www.wiktionary.org/

In a way
Yes
It's a very... weird take on the world

[turbid ivy]

Khyyah, i just checked it.. go to luke 1 and Luke 8

Now, what's your moral standard?

[plain ruin]

Show the word and the meaning side by side
Source

[hoary glen]

An alternative form of "disenchantment"

[turbid ivy]

I just said go to luke 1 and Luke 8, you have to do little bit your own homwork, kid

[shell hemlock]

it’s abdullah’s room (yeah)

[turbid ivy]

That's not so clean

[plain ruin]

Sure, will get back to you in a few hours

[turbid ivy]

Of course

[uncut tiger]

Are you trying to get the serious chat citizenship
I see you in here too often

[shell hemlock]

nah look how good his room will be when we get married

[shell hemlock]

general chat is so boring no one talks about anything just hi and bye hru im good farting tootin okay see ya

[turbid ivy]

Aha,, and where do you think he will acquire the budget from?

[plain ruin]

"See look at Minecraft, he's atheist and see his beliefs that you don't agree with! Look at him he's a part of your atheistic society!"

"No that guy who said kill all muslims and hindus and jews is not christian! I don't agree with him! Look at him he's not part of my society!"

[uncut tiger]

Find a pious and Muslim man and start e dating him

That's how you make it fun

[shell hemlock]

e-dating on this server ????

[turbid ivy]

who will you find more pious than me

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-best-laugh-thats-funny-gif-8282901

[uncut tiger]

This server was made for e dating

[shell hemlock]

i went on a nail date with @half fiber

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-best-laugh-thats-funny-gif-8282901

[uncut tiger]

Wait, who am I to judge her

[turbid ivy]

How did you know, did she also flirt with you?

[uncut tiger]

Mb

[turbid ivy]

how am i to judger her

[shell hemlock]

oh i won't imprison him

[turbid ivy]

now she is dating.. i thought it was haram in islam

She is a meeting a guy, isnt' she?

Look, in islam, if the man and woman likes eachother,, they tell their parents,, and they are not allowed to meet secrelty

[shell hemlock]

i will just strap him onto a chair n duct tape him /j

[turbid ivy]

💀 that's getting to intense

[uncut tiger]

Who are you talking about

[shell hemlock]

how can he run

[shell hemlock]

nobody

[turbid ivy]

First of all, she is not allowed to do that unless they are married..

[uncut tiger]

Who's named Nobody here I wonder

[shell hemlock]

@marsh oak

[turbid ivy]

in islam the punsihment is stone to death keep in mind and you are taking her side? jibreel will punish you

[uncut tiger]

Why is girls liking kids okay

And men liking kids is jail

[half fiber]

I enjoyed it.. Looking forward to our next date

[turbid ivy]

is that halal? lol

[uncut tiger]

Do you like kids

[plain ruin]

Nobu:

• Noooo why are you taking that verse as literal
  Also Nobu:
• *Takes Lily's words as literal (including the /j)*

[shell hemlock]

gotta get mani pedi

[feral river]

I can finally agree with you for one point

[shell hemlock]

how can he run if he stuck

[feral river]

🇺🇸

[half fiber]

Yayyy

[uncut tiger]

@shell hemlock do you like kids

[shell hemlock]

yeah but not like that

[half fiber]

Yes

[shell hemlock]

my dream is to get a daughte

[uncut tiger]

Do you like to sniff kids?

[turbid ivy]

joking about islam comes under blaspehemyy keep in mind, if she was in Pakistan ... she would have disicplined

[shell hemlock]

um yeah ?? like a good wife that i am

[turbid ivy]

Can i see the source?

[half fiber]

Yes unless they shit in their pants I ainr cleaning it up

[shell hemlock]

yes they r cuties

[manic juniper]

What do you think about paying Libya to keep the illegal immigrants?

[feral river]

paying ?

we didn't occupy them is the best we could offer to keep these shit

[manic juniper]

Yes they are dropped there and kept in prisons or camps

[uncut tiger]

@shell hemlock

[turbid ivy]

Send them without any payment, let them join in their military programs

[half fiber]

@manic juniper gurl off topic but you're gorgeous

[shell hemlock]

i don't disagree with them they pooping and farting a lot

[feral river]

nah just send them back to somewhere like in the old times Australia

[turbid ivy]

Never seen her photos

[uncut tiger]

look closely

[manic juniper]

Thanks, I'm the Dovahkiin

[shell hemlock]

oh..

[turbid ivy]

Nah not there. i think the best place for them would be Africa (Sahara desert)

[shell hemlock]

bye

[manic juniper]

If that's an attempt at humour it ended in failure

[feral river]

why not antarctica

[manic juniper]

What about Nigeria?

[turbid ivy]

Sure, that's their punsihment for evading a country

[manic juniper]

It's a big country I've heard

[turbid ivy]

no not there, they will destory their lives

[feral river]

or make Gaza diversified

exactly what democrats wanted so far

[turbid ivy]

how

[manic juniper]

[feral river]

send them back to this place

[manic juniper]

Ngl I didn't expect that

[half fiber]

Guys have you seen how they are torturing Sudan pepple

[turbid ivy]

First of all they need throw out the hamas and Gaazans should submit themselves to the Israeli government.. and they should leave islam as well

[half fiber]

It's really saddeninf

[manic juniper]

Yes it's almost inhumane

[feral river]

if they did that they may come into Israel but if they can't

just stay at where they are

separatism against State of Israel cannot be toleranted

Palestine is not a state, Palestine can never become an identity

[half fiber]

The fact Muslims are killing Muslims for materialistic goods 🙁

[turbid ivy]

Their country will not develop,, they lack infracstructure

[manic juniper]

I saw a video that looked like one of those battles from the middle ages, with pools of blood

[feral river]

since when we have to develop their fucking place

[turbid ivy]

That's always been in the history

[manic juniper]

I guess those descriptions of the crusades held some truth

[feral river]

we just develop for our own by taxing them

that's the best situation

[turbid ivy]

That's unfair

[feral river]

under my guns nothing is unfair

I am fair

[turbid ivy]

That's athiesm

[manic juniper]

Why are they fighting? Ethnonationalistic reasons?

[uncut tiger]

@shell hemlock i tried to bait general chat people with that ss but it kinda backfired

[turbid ivy]

NO, they need capital and skilled man power

[shell hemlock]

hahahahahahha

[uncut tiger]

theyre criticizing me for taking everything sexually💀

[shell hemlock]

btw guys how can i easily calculate korean won to usd

[shell hemlock]

u deserved it salad face

[uncut tiger]

dont u have google woman

[manic juniper]

Google converts most currencies automatically

[shell hemlock]

i don’t know i don’t understand it

what’s the lowest currency in korea

[uncut tiger]

just type 'x won to usd' on google

[turbid ivy]

i can understand korean

[feral river]

AK-47 is humane

little boy is humane

tsar bomb is also humane

[turbid ivy]

백 = 100
천 = 1000
만 = 10000

[shell hemlock]

apparently 1500 won = $1

[feral river]

you know that was derived from the Chinese number system

[uncut tiger]

yeah ig

[shell hemlock]

for us 4000 riels = $1

[feral river]

백 = 百 = 100
천 = 千 = 1000
만 = 万 = 10000

even the pronunciation was very similar

[manic juniper]

The beauty of the Sinosphere

It made possible communication between completely different spoken languages

[feral river]

70% of the Korean word is Chinese word

[turbid ivy]

Yes these are called Sino-Korean numbers. They have their own native numbers
From 0 - to 99
한
두
셋
넷
.

[feral river]

btw Korean can be written in purely Chinese character and they use it until they choose to change it

[turbid ivy]

Right

[feral river]

as well as Japanese also use Kanji as the main part of their language

so for Chinese people it's quite easy to learn Korean or Japanese

[turbid ivy]

Yeah.. Korean is mostly derived from Chinese language

[shell hemlock]

yeah we use usd

[manic juniper]

To be fair it was the better choice, Japan did the same and Korea went through a time of transition

Don't elders still understand logograms?

In few generations no one will anymore

[feral river]

well in Korea yes but in Japan nah

everybody learns Kanji and it make American suffer obviously

[manic juniper]

Yes in Japan there are no plans or intentions to drop them

[feral river]

and btw that's the only case in South Korea, in China we had a little Korea at north of the North Korea

[turbid ivy]

천오백 원 = 1500 won

[manic juniper]

Older than who

[feral river]

at that place where people could speak Korean and Chinese

[manic juniper]

Isn't their dialect more old fashioned too, probably got even more Chinese words

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanbian_Korean_Autonomous_Prefecture

[manic juniper]

I'm not

[feral river]

this is so called "The Third Korea"

a Korea in China

[manic juniper]

No

[feral river]

you know you could learn how to read all Korean words in 3 days

[cursive sphinx]

Age doesn't matter
But sure thing that she is smart

[manic juniper]

Very nice, do they still speak Korean or were they assimilated

[feral river]

it's not conflicting to learning Chinese character as well

[feral river]

they do speak Korean and Chinese at the same time

[manic juniper]

Thanks man, much appreciated

[turbid ivy]

yes for sure,, infact you can read the hangul just in day one.. just need to memorize a little bit, it's super easy

[manic juniper]

One less

[feral river]

even Kim II Sung, the founder of the North Korea was once a member of the Chinese Communist Party

and he speaks perfect Chinese and Korean

[manic juniper]

Was he from that region?

Or was he simply taught by Chinese party members

[feral river]

yeah his family fled from Korea to Manchuria and he joined the CCP's army during Japanese occupation

that's the real history

[cursive sphinx]

It's my opinion
I didn't get involved in your argument

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il_Sung

[manic juniper]

I hope you're joking

[swift crest]

It's very hilarious how we started calling kim II sung as "founder" of North Korea

[feral river]

Hail the eternal Supreme Leader 🇰🇵 Kim II Sung

[swift crest]

I really hope the same

[manic juniper]

Ain't no way AI has such negative effects, I refuse to believe

[feral river]

it is found by Soviet Union anyway

[swift crest]

Exactly 😂😂😂

[feral river]

🤣

[manic juniper]

At least he has a cool backstory unlike Mussolini, the guy simply was a communist and a teacher

[swift crest]

Wsup with him?

[manic juniper]

He wasn't a soldier (I think) or anything like that
Even Hitler fought in WW1, Stalin was a gangster who robbed banks and part of the tsarist army

[swift crest]

[manic juniper]

Wasn't Pol Pot just a student as well

[swift crest]

It's so messed up dude 😭

[feral river]

anyway people should appreciate Mao, Kim and Stalin these great leaders for no reason

[manic juniper]

I have a good memory

It's 31

[swift crest]

@winter echo

[manic juniper]

Two of my favourites are Salazar from Portugal and Metaxas from Greece because their names are cool

Idk about my favourite dictator overall

[hoary glen]

Here's a funny story: Chinese netizens have always liked to use the derogatory term "金三胖(Kim Fatty III)" to refer to Kim Jong-un. Apparently, North Korea found out about this and demanded that this keyword be removed from browsers. So now you can't find this keyword on Baidu Browser in China.

[manic juniper]

He was general secretary of the party, not supreme leader

[uncut tiger]

Majeed do you have a beef with isfrun

[frosty hearth]

Isfrun where is all of that knowledge coming from

[uncut tiger]

@winter echo @winter echo @winter echo

[frosty hearth]

You have a privileged brain

[uncut tiger]

She was the nerdy kid in her childhood

With no friends and everyone bullied her

Majeed tell me
Do you have a beef with isfrun

[frosty hearth]

What

Dont make yourself jealous. Maybe youre smart too

[uncut tiger]

Awww

[frosty hearth]

But i dont e date

Cant even travel 2 hours

[shell hemlock]

can someone help

[frosty hearth]

E dating is not good over time

[frosty hearth]

Depends on what you need

[shell hemlock]

how do i win 8ball

i don’t understand this game

[manic juniper]

You laugh, meanwhile:

[shell hemlock]

hit what

[manic juniper]

Congrats to Abdul for surpassing half of the average

[manic juniper]

Iridium sample from Yucatán peninsula

[manic juniper]

You'd be surprised, I was the bully for most of my life (but yes I was first in class too)

[uncut tiger]

Stealing lunch from kindergarten kids doesnt count

[shell hemlock]

but which one

@manic juniper do u know how to play 8ball

[uncut tiger]

Do you mean the android game or just snooker in general

[shell hemlock]

it's a game on imessage

[uncut tiger]

Is imessage and iOS app

God forbid android users exist

🥻

[hoary glen]

On the bright side: there's a lot of room for improvement.

[shell hemlock]

oh so the black ball should go in last

[manic juniper]

It became the other way around later on

[uncut tiger]

AHAHAHAHAA I KNEW IT

[manic juniper]

Because I was less aggressive and violent than I used to be

No one was afraid of me anymore

[manic juniper]

I know how to play it but I cannot play it 😔

[uncut tiger]

make it make sense

[manic juniper]

I became less beastly, it makes sense from my perspective

Before I just attacked people, sometimes with dumb excuses because I felt I could

I only stopped because I probably came close to killing my classmate

[uncut tiger]

What grade was this

[manic juniper]

Idk how grades work but first year of elementary school, by then I switched to psychological bullying rather than physical

It's like the first year of mandatory school, after preschool/kids school

[uncut tiger]

yea ik

[uncut tiger]

psychological is always best

For others, you are the people

sure bro

[swift crest]

Sure bro sure

[spice bobcat]

Shiver me timbers

Scary chat

[spice bobcat]

If you're stripes pot all the stripe coloured balls first then the black.

If you're solids do the same for solids and pot the black

https://tenor.com/view/yatchy-drake-lil-yatchy-drake-show-showing-gif-13561814394602874846

[uncut bronze]

hello

[frosty hearth]

Have you changed?

[swift crest]

Seems like I am already half way through my plan

[manic juniper]

Yes I'm way less cruel now

[latent steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/diddytron-online-gif-874979075129686851

[manic juniper]

It's a lot more satisfying for sure

[frosty hearth]

less

[thorny steeple]

📵

[manic juniper]

I'm bully-free since 2017

[frosty hearth]

Thats pretty recent tho haha. Did they deserve it somehow?

[manic juniper]

20/80

Most didn't deserve it

[frosty hearth]

Youre an Orca hearted

[slender coral]

I was a bully too when I was too young, but got bullied later and that made me understand the perspective of victims I guess.

[feral river]

why you would try to understand them lmao

is that because you can't dominate anymore ?

be mercy to your enemies is cruelty to yourself

[manic juniper]

I legit didn't get it even when I was the victim because I just switched to bullying people on videogames

[manic juniper]

Mammals are evil

[feral river]

we must contribute everything aimed to eliminate our enemies completely

we will win the war

Hail the Supreme Leader

[frosty hearth]

Which is

[slender coral]

No.

I have empathy I guess, unlike ya.

[shy summit]

Moving on from drunken rambling

[manic seal]

Hi i have a problem

[slender coral]

What is it?

[feral river]

make sense when people lose they like to pick this excuse

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-sad-cat-wet-dead-inside-gif-14354821180399429137

[feral river]

unnecessary it was just random talk I used to have 1 or 4 times a week

somehow people lost their mind of remembering how I am

[shy summit]

Yeah maybe move on from advocating war crimes.

[manic seal]

It’s about school
Now I’m thinking to go to another school cus my school now it’s make me feel very depressed from tests and assignments
And the another school i want go to it
They are so good with the tests and homework it’s to easy and
They have a students how are very
good in English they arrange better than me Reverse my school i’m the best one in English I don't want to be less trusted there.

Oh my gosh i talk so much

[feral river]

I do not suggest to commit any crime which is defined by a institution which established effective control under enforcement

and which law does not apply to this basic requirement are toilet papers

[slender coral]

I didn't understand much to be honest 😭

[swift crest]

Have you decided yet?

[slender coral]

Probably

[swift crest]

Umm...yes ig

[manic seal]

HAHAHAHA what didn’t you understand

[manic seal]

No

[slender coral]

So, you basically are transferring from a school to a new one and the new one is better than the old one?

[manic seal]

Yes

[swift crest]

Thats literally it??

[manic seal]

But they have i bad thing it’s about the students there they are so better than me in English all of them

[manic seal]

Yes

[feral river]

MY SOLDIER DO NOT KILL PEOPLE, THEY SIMPLY DESTROY THE ENEMY - Wilhelm II

[manic seal]

I think the problem it’s because I always be the best one,and now if i go to another school i well not be

[swift crest]

The other school is better ig

[manic seal]

Thanks for you opinion ❤️i appreciate it

[crystal kayak]

The Chinese military will get obliterated in ground to ground combat

[swift crest]

I appreciate that you appreciate it
💞💞💞

[thorny steeple]

good song title

[hexed hare]

Maybe at the beginning, but if you are always the best one I think this is a really big experience for you to be learning english even if you don't know much, sometimes you just have to get out of you comfort zone to be better!

[manic seal]

Yes I think that,listen I'm not saying that I'm the best meaning to grow up or brag🥲,and thank you so much ❤️🤍🤍

[feral river]

Americans thinks the same way with you at 1950s when PRC just got established

and they got their ass kicked mess around with us

[thorny steeple]

Hruuu

[pure citrus]

Whats up lads? Whats going on

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[crystal kayak]

Dude we will destroy you in ground combat the only thing that saves you is your air force and navy

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from

[crystal kayak]

Kenya

[thorny steeple]

Good

[crystal kayak]

And you

[thorny steeple]

Azerbaijan

[crystal kayak]

Cool

[frosty hearth]

I think she included humans as well

[long sand]

My uncle told me when he was dying on my arm he said with great power comes great responsibility

[turbid dome]

You’re so close to using mammal as a slur that isfrun pretty much won

[crystal kayak]

@plain ruin

[turbid ivy]

🤔

[turbid dome]

It could be interpreted that you were using it as a slur to try and discredit her, meaning she won

[slender coral]

Didn't know such thing exists before 😅
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliment_sandwich

[turbid dome]

I’m sure she would accept it if it helps her discredit mammals

[slender coral]

Didn't Mohamed say the animal and the person should be put to death?

[turbid dome]

Yeah I don’t like it because I have to sugarcoat stuff.

The one time I didn’t use it I got disastrous results

[slender coral]

Oh wait, the Hadith was Da'if.

Abrahamic religions can be weird af sometimes. And they claim pagans are the only weirdos.

[turbid dome]

It’s funny because abrahamic religions stole from pagan ones. Christmas trees are pagan

[turbid dome]

I mean this shows that the ideas of how to worship were taken and tweaked between religions. It’s why there’s a lot of similarities between Horus and Jesus.

[shell hemlock]

women in politics https://youtu.be/wrH_VkOqS2I

[turbid dome]

And with newer religions such as Mormonism there is an ability to figure out why religions are created

[turbid dome]

Emily Austin is a ghoul but why does it have to be Ana Kasparian 😭

Yes

Not currently

[shell hemlock]

she is outspoken

[turbid dome]

There’s so many better people who are outspoken though

[turbid ivy]

No punishment for the man ie halal

[turbid dome]

Yes

[plain ruin]

I mean I'd like to see the whole point he's making
I don't like TRT World for cutting off the end

He generally supports "Why do we have americans in armies abroad?"

[plain ruin]

I mean it doesn't matter at the end of the day
What the hadith is saying that there isn't a specific punishment mentioned for the action

It doesn't say that it's allowed, and it even suggests a punishment too, because they recognize the act is wrongful
This is another case of Nobu trying to mislead people with semantics imo

Don't give him positive feedback for dumb shit like this, literally 99% of the world is against the act, religious or not

[turbid ivy]

There is no punishment cause it's halal khyah

[plain ruin]

There are a few
Idk why, but there are a few

[shell hemlock]

who's the best superhero

[turbid dome]

Pretty much you have to be a special type of deranged. Most psychopaths don’t even do it

[plain ruin]

Cannot read past 2 lines😭

[turbid ivy]

Read all it's halal

[turbid dome]

Idk

[plain ruin]

This is like saying "Child marriage is not punished in the Bible because it's allowed khyah "

[manic juniper]

I thought it was a Baltic German folk tradition from the time when paganism was already 6 feet under

[plain ruin]

Lack of comprehension keeps on showing

[slender coral]

I read a bit. I read Quran's Miracle by Al-Sharawi, A Conversation With My Atheist Friend and My Journey From Doubt To Belief by Mustafa Mahmood (both talk about atheism but they are centered around Islamic apologetics), and a book by a not very well-known writer called Yasser Mamdouh titled From Zero (talks about atheism but centered around Islamic apologetics as well).
Other than that, in Sharia law I read parts of Laws Of Ahlul-Dhimma by ibn al-Qayyim, al-Um by Al-Shafi'i, al-Moghni by ibn-Qudamah, and الصارم المسلول على شاتم الرسول by ابن تيمية (got tired of writing things in English 😭). Didn't read them fully though each one is big, some of them is huge.

[turbid dome]

Might have been multiple but idk

[turbid ivy]

There are clear Bible verses proving child marriage is forbidden.. exekiel, Romans, luke 1,8

Define a child?

[fresh flower]

There are none.
Only Allah SWT ☝🏻🤲🏻

WAHIDU

[slender coral]

Ik, but many religious folk, especially Muslims, wouldn't agree with that statement. They often justify their suppression of non-religious people because "they will make us have sex with animals" and such stuff, just because we don't have a dos and don'ts list.

[slender coral]

It's interesting that they throw gay folk from high places to their deaths but don't have a formal punishment for that.

[shell hemlock]

shaddup

i don't know which i think spiderman is cool

[turbid ivy]

Mhmm ur right

[fresh flower]

Holy fuck is Nobu still here

[thorny steeple]

I'm bored

[slender coral]

Bruh you are included, you are religious 😭

[turbid ivy]

yea it's crazy khyahh

[shell hemlock]

bc he has webs (not in that way)

[slender coral]

You deserve banning more than Nobu I swear.

[rain depot]

Understandable

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/kheumani-throwing-shoe-gif-6377868714856687080

[fresh flower]

I'd put atheists like you in jail

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[fresh flower]

Re-education camps ong

[slender coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852805796789354496/1402158038164701274/1399399833256853635.webp

[plain ruin]

Yeah that's a thing about fundamentalism rather than them actually trying to interpret the religion wrongly
Christians do the same thing with the "The gays will make us do xyz"

My point is that if we're criticizing christianity/islam/etc. is that we focus on the fundamental things instead of doing stupid shit like this example
His reading comprehension and method of arguing is no more than a 5th grader

[turbid dome]

It’s funny because we’ve already sat through religious lectures before

Been to church lmao

[plain ruin]

We need to end low quality arguments to begin with

[turbid ivy]

Exodus 22:11
Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.

[plain ruin]

See
He thinks your point is about the hadith itself😭

[fresh flower]

How many hours has Nobu been here

[slender coral]

I get your point but Idk, Nobu isn't reasonable but he is better than many folk I know irl and online. I guess I need to higher my standards a bit, but I swear Muslim societies are the biggest producers of things worse than Nobu.

[plain ruin]

Think of how many days Carpe spent in ST VCs
The opposite of that

[fresh flower]

He must've hit 1k hours in total by now there's now way he hasn't

[slender coral]

@turbid ivy don't you think you should improve the way you handle the topic?

[plain ruin]

Not really😭 Unless you're comparing him to the weirdo islam supporters

The average christian is a lot more reasonable than this guy

[turbid ivy]

This me being most respectful btw khyahh

[slender coral]

Yeah yeah sure, but average Muslim, at least in my experience, is less reasonable than him.

[turbid dome]

I mean, once upon a time we had someone argue that hitting women is halal and they agreed with it 😭

[turbid ivy]

Reasonable about?

[plain ruin]

Given your experiences, and the condition of muslim countries, yes, that would generally be true

In Christian standards (Outside of right-wing americans) he'd get close to excommunication

[plain ruin]

yeah, im talking about nobu with reference to christianity though

[slender coral]

Idk man, the sexualized Hijabi pics, the spamming of random criticisms unprompted, generalizing things about Muslims without acknowledging that Christianity had it's very bad times and people, all of that makes you appear as a bad person to people.

[turbid dome]

Just saying the floor here is underwater

[crystal kayak]

I just found the full video it is 1hr long,1hr of trump yapping

[plain ruin]

True

[plain ruin]

Send it, because I'm curious
Also, did you read the current peace plan, by the way?
(Not how it's going, but the actual plan, signed by Trump)

[turbid dome]

#hoejabi 😭😭😭

[fresh flower]

If I ever go to Nepal I will incite a Hindu riot against Christians just to see if this guy speaks against them and not just Muslims for once

[plain ruin]

Needs the same fixing as ThinkPad

[slender coral]

lmfao

[crystal kayak]

https://youtu.be/XFypot_kMH0?si=toVcGwIn_51JObsk

[turbid ivy]

Khyah.. no.. I was praising her beauty. First of all that's a sahih hadith.. 2nd Christianity has nothing like this

[plain ruin]

💀

[turbid dome]

Yes don’t worry we are well aware you thought she was beautiful

Trust me we know

[cerulean pivot]

Why do have a black kid in ur pfp

[slender coral]

Before you, I was the only critic of Islam here, I think. Muslims certainly hated me, but people didn't get annoyed by me like they got annoyed by you @turbid ivy

[crystal kayak]

@plain ruin I didn't find that part,but I sent the full video plus what peace plan

[turbid ivy]

That twitter gal? Oh yeah khyah

[plain ruin]

I'm talking about the current Israel-Palestine peace plan, the actual wording, I'm curious on what you think about it

[cerulean pivot]

Well
Both of y'all are
But he's miles ahead of you in this

[plain ruin]

Seems like a lot of yap, yeah
I'll wait to get to the point in the reel

[turbid dome]

It’s just a way for Israel to legalize and make occupation of Gaza legal and acceptable to people. Hamas only agreed to the ceasefire and exchange of captives so it will face difficulties being implemented

[turbid ivy]

No I was banned for 2 years before from the server ... at time I used to torture people severely
Let them get annoy, that's their punishment 🙄

[plain ruin]

I don't think people are annoyed by you at all, atleast the people who actually communicate
Just don't get sucked into poorer quality arguments

[slender coral]

Ok, that's ok. Whatever was in the past, let's just leave it.
But even in your channel, when you posted a video, you put a sexualized Hijabi pic in the thumbnail. You can believe that Christianity is different all you want, but Christians certainly had fundamentalists and hateful people in its history. You denied the damage western colonialism did when it's a widely acknowdelged thing and we provided evidence to you about it.

[turbid dome]

Is it called “My Struggle”

[turbid ivy]

That image is ai generated and it shows how Muhammad treated women. She was sexualized but by Muhammad actually

[slender coral]

The Shi'i troll is talking

[cerulean pivot]

Not troll that's my default

[turbid ivy]

Gn 😴

[slender coral]

Listened to Raghib al-Sirgani's lectures about it when I was a kid, he is an Egyptian Muslim scholar.

[turbid ivy]

Now the king will take some rest khyahhhh

[plain ruin]

I recall reading that it involves creating official lines of communication regarding prisoners from either country, sharing of information, and official recognition

The plan is still in phase 1 right now, this is from a stage 3 proposal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_International_Transitional_Authority

The 19th point of the plan includes entertaining the recognition of the state (By the US)

[fresh flower]

Long ass image

[slender coral]

Did Mohamed make them wear like that?

I didn't tbh.

[manic juniper]

The most pagan element about Christianity that I can think of is the Pope himself, his full title is pontifex maximus (highest bridger), which is 1:1 the title of the emperor of pagan Rome or his highest priest

[turbid ivy]

According to surah 33.59 yes

[slender coral]

Isn't it called الرحيق المختوم?

[turbid ivy]

Yes, as a Protestant, I deny his authority

[turbid dome]

Yeah I don’t trust it. But if there is eventually recognition then I would expect it would only be if it’s similar to the PA, where it’s a collaborator state

[manic juniper]

The way the Pope works is also the same way the pagan pontifixes worked

[slender coral]

@winter echo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar-Raheeq_Al-Makhtum

[turbid ivy]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Protestants have Halloween

[plain ruin]

The only reason I entertain the idea as possible, is because a lot of conservatives have actually started to get pissed at the ideas of churches being bombed and sending money to Israel (while they already have a lot of free/cheap services)

[turbid dome]

Yeah that’s a word salad which doesn’t commit to anything concrete, it’s just to legalize occupation

[turbid ivy]

Hmm.. do we? We don't celebrate it

[turbid dome]

They’re only mad at the current escalation of the genocide, there’s no way they stop the colonialism, they may scale it back though

[shell hemlock]

are we talking about salads

[plain ruin]

i.e. the pre oct 7 occupation, correct?

[shell hemlock]

i hate salad

[turbid ivy]

Halloween used to be way different

[turbid dome]

Yes, but with over half of Gaza stolen by Israel and a ton of land in the West Bank

[slender coral]

He certainly didn't

O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies. In this way it is more likely that they will be recognized ˹as virtuous˺ and not be harassed. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
https://quran.com/33/59

It's the most reliable I think

[slender coral]

Omg bro is making me defend Islam 😭😭😭😭😭😭 @turbid dome@plain ruin

[manic juniper]

How, pretty much everywhere in UK and USA is decorated

[turbid dome]

wtf has Nobu done to you

[slender coral]

lmfao

[turbid ivy]

Yes you have to read the tafsir for the background story and I'm sure you aware of the Awrah of a female slave in islam?

[fresh flower]

Inside every ex-Muslim is a Shia waiting to be released

[turbid ivy]

These days, yes..
In reformation era, it wasn't like this 😌

[turbid dome]

The ayatollah will reign supreme over the Middle East 🫡

[fresh flower]

Enshallah 🤲🏻☝🏻

[plain ruin]

yeah I agree, I think the complete withdrawal to before Oct 7 levels only happen in phase 3 too

At the end of the day, occupation or not, if freedom of movement is established, statuses are equalized, in civil terms, then that'll be what the people deserve
There are many israeli liberalist groups that are from within israel helping palestinians living in israel constantly

[slender coral]

I always heard of it. It seems to hold a special place in the Arab world at least. To me I never got interested about reading the Seerah because my father made me listen to Raghib's lectures when I was young, and I was told about it dozens of times by Sheikhs and relatives. So I never thought of reading it and I don't think it would add much.

[plain ruin]

That's my point💀😭😭😭
He doesn't argue in good faith to begin with, that's a net negative for people with valid criticisms, because people with common sense will look at people like him and think we're like him

[turbid ivy]

You can find those sources in my blog.
nobuyubu.wordpress.com
Gn

[manic juniper]

It has been around since the 12th century if not earlier

[turbid ivy]

Gotta look into it

[turbid ivy]

Gn 😴

[slender coral]

He didn't make women with Hijab go around half naked that's for sure.

[manic juniper]

Folk traditions find their way whenever there is a wide gap between the clerical classes and the commoners

[turbid ivy]

He did, read my article there are sources for his crimes

[shell hemlock]

no salad in my house ever

[manic juniper]

It's up to the authorities to choose whether adopting them is something they can afford or not

[slender coral]

What would that add I wonder? You could ask me about events and I'm sure I'd know it if you are curious about how knowledgeable I am.

[turbid ivy]

Gn

[turbid dome]

Yeah I don’t trust those groups either, I think they’re well intentioned but at the end of the day they only serve to get a South Africa style outcome.

IMO the core of the issue is land theft. The lack of civil rights and restricted movement are to enforce dispossession of land. It would be great if it happened but without land back and reparations it’ll lead to a wealthy Jewish population and a poor Palestinian one in any future state. In South Africa white people have like maybe 6% of the population but the majority of the wealth. In Israel they have the population too, so it wouldn’t solve the core issues and democracy could easily be denied through paid state IDs or something

[manic juniper]

Sometimes it gets stamped out violently such as the case of Saint Guinefort, other times it is adopted officially like Halloween

[thorny steeple]

Who revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad ?

[turbid ivy]

Gn 😶‍🌫️

[shell hemlock]

gabriel twin

[hidden shore]

what is Awrah ?

[shell hemlock]

i only eat cucumbers bruh

[turbid ivy]

Private organs

[slender coral]

He panicked

[hidden shore]

[slender coral]

Went to his house scared and asked to be covered..

[turbid ivy]

Read my article as well.. the angel tried to kill him...

[slender coral]

His wife at that time, Khadija, who was 15 years older than him, comforted him and took him to Waraqah ib nawfal

Whom told him it's a sign of prophethood

Yeah

[turbid dome]

If only me running to my house scared was a sign of prophethood

😭

[turbid ivy]

Actually khadijah said he's a prophet to persuade him

[slender coral]

I don't remember this. Could you provide source?

[spice bobcat]

Sure, www.apologetics101.com

[slender coral]

[spice bobcat]

Like omg

[plain ruin]

Definitely agree for reparations and land back too. All valid points that you're making.
The same would be possible here too, for sure, but I think that if there's more eyes into looking into pushing the peace plan into the right direction rather than just applying prejudicial concepts, that would be more productive for the ultimate desired outcome.

Reparations and being able to contest elections, vote, etc. would be a huge thing if we tried to promote these instead of undermine their possibility

[turbid ivy]

Sahi al bhukhari 6982

Further; https://nobuyubu.wordpress.com/2024/04/22/the-spritual-reliability-of-prophet-of-islam/

[plain ruin]

I heard the owner got rid of the site because of many unfortunate circumstances 😞

Sad year for David Wood fans

[thorny steeple]

The Bible, which was written long before the Qur’an, already warns about an angel from heaven. What is interesting is that the Qur’an, which Muslims believe was revealed to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel, contains teachings that are completely contrary to the message of Jesus and the Gospel recorded in the Bible. As Galatians 1:8 says: ‘But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

[turbid dome]

I don’t think that Israel would voluntarily sign all of that away when they’re the dominant power. That’s why I think a ceasefire is good but realistically any long term peace plan shouldn’t have Israeli input as it will simply sabotage it. The only reason South Africa accepted the equality was because all the criminals who did it got amnesty, they got to keep everything material, and they got a new way to subjugate the black population

[crystal kayak]

Apologies for the delay I went to pray by the peace plan do you mean the demilitarization and redevelopment of Palestine

[shell hemlock]

bc the bible and the quran aren’t the same twin

[keen hare]

Its the areas of the body that is meant to be covered or kept private in front of particular people

[turbid ivy]

[shell hemlock]

your name

[crystal kayak]

Nobu wassup

[slender coral]

@winter echo I know about it all brother, believe me. Heard it hundreds of times. How he started the Dawah and kept it in secret for years, how he turned to make it public and went to a mountain where Abu Laheb insulted him and rejected his proselytization, how Muslims were heavily suppressed after that because of the change of Qibla, how Umar converted after finding out his sister and her husband converted, how Hamza converted out of pride at first and then out of conviction, how they talked to people from Madinah who believed in him, and many other events that I've heard about a lot.

[high rapids]

Good Morning

[hidden shore]

i see i see

[crystal kayak]

@turbid ivy talk about Christianity for once how to be a better christian and stuff instead of wasting your precious time on us

[slender coral]

What do you mean?

[high rapids]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOXk3OXp2aHU5YXdtcjA5OHRtcjNueTZvY3Zjd251N2t4Z3k3YjU4OSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/N0CIxcyPLputW/giphy.gif

[shell hemlock]

the way the prophet lived was actually pitiful

[turbid ivy]

Tomorrow

[keen hare]

Nothing contrary. The idea that the Qur'an is from satan is contradictory of your own scripture which says satan does not condemn himself due to his arrogance. Read the second chapter of the Qur'an and you find an example of this. You first need to prove the Bible is both accurate and preserved as well as prove you have the true teachings of Christ before you can make the claim Islam contradicts it anyhow

[turbid dome]

Poor guy only controlled half the Arabian peninsula

[crystal kayak]

Tomorrow ain't promised why not start now gather the christians that want to better themselves and go to VC and learn and grow

[gloomy frost]

💔 🥀 people be making stuff.

[thorny steeple]

But isn't for you interesting the fact that the Bible has been written before the Qur'an and the same Bible warned us before even angels who will preach something totally different form what Jesus was saying

[shell hemlock]

i meant his living condition

[shell hemlock]

the bible doesn’t concern me

[keen hare]

Mark 3:26

[fresh flower]

Why did you parents spell Elisabeth like that

[plain ruin]

I don't think they would either. Right.
But it's not just the input of the US and Israel. There are a lot of countries that are planned to be involved, the main ones seeming to be US, European, Arab.

I see your point though "Yeah we'll redevelop the land you have... etc. etc. and you get nothing for the loads of land and lives you've lost over the years"
I think that makes sense too, we should definitely encourage further action to push reparations into the plan as well

[plain ruin]

Yes

[turbid ivy]

Tomorrow

[fresh flower]

Reminds me of a girl I knew from hs her name was Emilja

[crystal kayak]

How are you doing lils

[gloomy frost]

whatever man, I see religious people and all I see is little kids talking about some fantacy game they just found about and yapping how cool and it's real actually type shit.

[shell hemlock]

some guy named semaj and it’s literally just james spelled backwards

[shell hemlock]

good alhamdulila hby

[fresh flower]

Ngl I feel like it's child abuse to give your kid a "special" name

[turbid ivy]

The demon in the Quran is not actual demon.
And second, quran is corrupted.. by it's own standard, it's a false religion. And third, Muhammad was possessed surah 22.52

[turbid dome]

I just don’t think the plan is a solid foundation where that’s possible. And all those European and arab countries are reliant on US weapons and defense

[turbid ivy]

https://nobuyubu.wordpress.com/2024/04/22/the-spritual-reliability-of-prophet-of-islam/

[keen hare]

What demon

[shell hemlock]

the 150 mil people named mohammed:

[keen hare]

Yeah sure you do you

[turbid ivy]

What is a demon?

[plain ruin]

I'm still fairly surprised by how neutral the plan seems overall
I wouldn't say that that's "giving him credit" because it's not enough, but, it's not anything like what the american left claimed it would be
(And I agree with yur statement)

[crystal kayak]

I don't see a problem tbh Israel slowly withdraws out, hostages from both sides are released nobody gets hurt it is a win win,is there something to be worried about

[keen hare]

It would be considered either an evil Jinn, or just any one spreading that which is contrary to what Allahs messenger has been given and what is revealed.

[fresh flower]

I think for 2025 Alma and Noah will still be the most popular names here, we're not at the Mohammed and Fatima stage yet

[turbid ivy]

Jinn is a demon?

[slender coral]

Khadijah wasn't the one to try to persuade him in the Hadith, it was Waraqa.

Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamityafflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/91/1