🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

hi guys

[slender coral]

Hello

Hope you are having a beautiful night in contrast to me.

[thorny steeple]

hru dude

[high crater]

Well well well

[mossy cargo]

yo serioius chat

who tryna hit

[high crater]

I’m also eating 6 brownies. I’m pretty sure doing the drugs would have been better

[slender coral]

Lmfao

[high crater]

But like small bite sized ones

[slender coral]

Not very bad.

[spice bobcat]

The drugs are worse dw bro

Fats vs carcinogens

[high crater]

😭😭😭😭

Thing is I’m healthy. So I’m not fat

[cerulean pivot]

Bebsi

[high crater]

But I’m just afraid all this fat is blocking my arteries

[high crater]

Like down deep

[slender coral]

Pepsi tastes like water and suger in Egypt for some reason.

[spice bobcat]

It's not going to unless you overdo it bruv 😭 just move around

[manic juniper]

Neither of these is that bad if done in extreme moderation

[cerulean pivot]

Even here

[slender coral]

It tasted better when I was in Saudi Arabia.

[spice bobcat]

They ruined pepsi

[cerulean pivot]

MPGA

[spice bobcat]

Diabetes from Sprite mint better

[high crater]

Oh yeah no I’m healthy lol. I gym and all. If anything I’m fit body wise. But like I said. It’s the arteries you don’t see

[spice bobcat]

Dw unless you've got a susceptibility, or are prone to such things. It won't do much. You're not even obese

[high crater]

I don’t smoke cannabis. I just eat it with sth like cakes. As for the alcohol…………. Yeah. Idk might use it too much lmfao

[spice bobcat]

As isfrun said, 'extreme moderation'

[high crater]

Lesss gooooo. Time to down them brownie bites then

[spice bobcat]

Yessir just don't be sad after you feel bloated

[cerulean pivot]

Wait aren't you Muslim

[high crater]

Is abusing it on Friday night only per week considered moderation?

[high crater]

No

[spice bobcat]

"Abusing" and "moderation" is a nice use of oxymoronic conversation.

[wary oak]

Depends, not worse than alcohol abuse,

[spice bobcat]

I am against drugs and alcohol so I can't advise you much other than you're basically killing yourself slowly

[wary oak]

Abusing aka binging is indeed harmful even if done only once a week

[cerulean pivot]

Don't call me girl with anger issues again

[high crater]

But it’s only once per week that’s the thing

[wary oak]

I quit drinking after being a 4-5x a week drinker

[slender coral]

Gym is overwhelming. Idk what machines I should use and how to use them, so I just go for the treadmill.

[cerulean pivot]

Because of you people really think I'm

[wary oak]

Because my heart was palpitating randomly

And after a few months it stopped

[spice bobcat]

that seems okay. Unless you mean "abuse" abuse, it's fine

[high crater]

Lmfaoooooo. Do you actually get pissed? Of so I’ll stop. Sorry lol

[spice bobcat]

Ask a doctor tho bro

[high crater]

Thought it was fun banter

[spice bobcat]

Do not ask randoms on discord for medical advice 🙏🏻💀

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh it's not a big problem nvm
Just don't

[high crater]

Okay anger issue girl

[spice bobcat]

It's ok girl

Why drink alcohol when you can drink orange juice

[high crater]

I do abuse abuse that day

So usually by now I’m drunk on the floor

But only Friday afternoon

[spice bobcat]

Yeah bro that's not good 😭

[high crater]

Rest of the week I’m clean

[cerulean pivot]

Fuck

[high crater]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wary oak]

It doesnt matter about the rest of the week, ur liver cannot process all that at once healthily

binging is literally as harmful as drinking constantly

[cerulean pivot]

What do you drink usually

[high crater]

No just on Friday nights

[cerulean pivot]

Bro
I mean what kind of drinks

[high crater]

So now usually. But I decided I want to enjoy the night instead of blacking out

[high crater]

Oh my. Read it another way lol

[cerulean pivot]

Wine vodka beer عرق etc

[spice bobcat]

Drink orange juice with pulp

[high crater]

Gin, beer, vodka, whisky….. whatever I have at home

[spice bobcat]

My condolences

[cerulean pivot]

[spice bobcat]

Y'all don't know shi bout orange juice

All worship orange juice

[cerulean pivot]

What's the best one you've tried

[cerulean pivot]

Ong

[high crater]

Brand wise?

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-dancing-ai-cat-dancing-cat-orange-orange-gif-12704472710606429932

[high crater]

I don’t know the name but a friend of mine brought me a gin bottle with ginger and lemon infused or sth

[high crater]

That was good. But all alcohol tastes like shit

[cerulean pivot]

Sounds disgusting

[manic juniper]

He got the whole pub at home

[wary oak]

Someone in one of the vc’s told me halloween was haram and bad and i was like “well you know it’s a cultural holiday” and he goes “well alcohol is also a cultural thing and thats bad too” and i kept saying thats a very stupid argument and he was like “oh so u think im stupid” and then he left

[high crater]

Oh yeah. It’s the boys weekend house lmfao

[spice bobcat]

He should start obsessing over ice circles anytime now

[cerulean pivot]

He's probably stupid

[high crater]

Btw on the topic of orange juice

[spice bobcat]

Orange juice

[high crater]

Have you tried it with alcohol

[spice bobcat]

Tch

[high crater]

Both go well

[cerulean pivot]

Nuh

[spice bobcat]

Ruininit he's ruininiit

[cerulean pivot]

Tried it with milk

[wary oak]

Mimosa

[plain ruin]

Bro discovered fire😭😭😭😭😭😭

[spice bobcat]

Drink it with toothpaste

[plain ruin]

Alcohol + OJ bewilderment in 2025😭

[high crater]

Like how you do tequila with lemons and salt

[spice bobcat]

Do some stupid shi bro trying it with alcohol

😭

[cerulean pivot]

اسوء من اكل مال اليتيم

[wary oak]

Hey guys have u ever tried coke a cola with ur rum

its actually rly good

[high crater]

Favorite activity

[high crater]

OP COMBOOOOOO

[high crater]

That’s one of my go tos

[spice bobcat]

😭😭😭

[wary oak]

Lol

[high crater]

But normal cola only. Zero sugar cola with alcohol sucks

[wary oak]

Once i had to do with dr polar

[manic juniper]

Yes

[plain ruin]

Might as well hit them with the "hot water with tea bags" at this point

[wary oak]

an off brand cola by polar

[manic juniper]

Gin and lemon

[cerulean pivot]

That's so niche

[plain ruin]

It's like Nobu's teachings

[wary oak]

Very cultural , the Japanese used to do this

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[plain ruin]

Not even the Christians agree with him

[high crater]

Got some alcohol connoisseurs here

[high crater]

Let’s do a drinking party next Friday

[spice bobcat]

Isn't coke and rum a common drink

[high crater]

It is

[wary oak]

Thats the joke

[manic juniper]

I'm not a connoisseur but my closest friends were the biggest alcohol addicts ever

[plain ruin]

That's the joke😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wary oak]

Thats the punch line

The meat and potatos the long and the short

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/yatchy-drake-lil-yatchy-drake-show-showing-gif-13561814394602874846

[cerulean pivot]

You've just fucked it up

[high crater]

Isn’t that how we all pick it up

[manic juniper]

It's the first combo that's taught as barman

[manic juniper]

No lol I never became addicted to it

[wary oak]

Cosmopolitan

[spice bobcat]

It's 1am goodnight 😭

[wary oak]

on the rocks ,dry, with a squeeze

[cerulean pivot]

It's 11:05 here
Gn

[high crater]

Not addicted. But picking it up. All my friends were addicts. And I was the only sober one. Then decided to try it. And here I am. I wouldn’t say addicted. But I like it a lot lol

[manic juniper]

I don't like the sensation it gives, I even like the same drinks when they are alcohol free

[cerulean pivot]

Have you kissed you homies by accident when y'all are drunk

[manic juniper]

Sometimes I think they are ruined because they are alcoholic beverages

[high crater]

No lol

[wary oak]

U wanna see addicts go to r/chronicalcoholism

[cerulean pivot]

Wasted potential

[wary oak]

the saddest subreddit on earth

[manic juniper]

Like glögi, delicious if no alcohol is involved

[high crater]

Alcohol tastes like shit. If you are drinking it for the taste you are doing it wrong😂😂😂😂

A bunch of drinks taste good without alcohol

[vagrant swan]

just say i'm from kurdistan 🇨🇽

[manic juniper]

Isn't it there to get wasted

[cerulean pivot]

[high crater]

Yeah

[high crater]

That’s what people drink alcohol for. Not it’s taste

So ofc it might ruin some drinks

[wary oak]

beer and wine drinkers enjoy the taste

cocktails are designed to taste better than shots

[high crater]

Beer tastes fine. Wine I never picked it up tbh

[manic juniper]

Then why do they go after beer, isn't that weaker than wines, liquors and spirits

Are alcohol addicts stupid?

[wary oak]

Mojitos , margs, those taste fine

Mimosas taste good

[high crater]

Yeah but that’s just fruity stuff you get at the bar. Who makes those at home

[wary oak]

Its a decline, usually alcoholics start w beer or wine and once they start buying vodka by the liter then theyre deep in it

[prisma cipher]

Zero, you scare to get chubby?

[cerulean pivot]

When i was a kid i put red apple fanta in a fancy glass and pretend it's wine

[high crater]

I’m fit lol. Not scared of chubbyness. Scared of a heart attack

[manic juniper]

My cousin used to pretend pear juice in the glass bottle was beer

[wary oak]

When i was doing an internship i had a neighbor who was an alcoholic

U could smell that shit from down the street

Ive never smelt such strong odors of alcohol but this dudes entire front lawn reeked of alcohol

[cerulean pivot]

Must be a German

[wary oak]

American guy

[manic juniper]

Yeah some of my friends worked at a bar and they always came home drunk, sometimes they gave me a lift and their car smelled like addict too

[wary oak]

americans drink a lot too i dont think many foreigners understand this

Its always oh the irish can drink, oh the germans, oh the russians the polish, but like bro we’re on that list too

[manic juniper]

It's just the sheer power some of these people have

French, Lithuanians and Moldovans on top

[wary oak]

Lithuanians are based

[manic juniper]

Usually the stereotype about Americans is that they tend to drink late because those laws aren't enforced anywhere in Europe

They enforce not drinking in public where it's illegal but they don't care if you are drinking at 13-15

Most of my friends started at 13 or 14

[wary oak]

I didnt drink until i was 16 …

[high crater]

I wonder how that affects the brain lol

[manic juniper]

Me too but they turned out fine
Most of them

[wary oak]

And i didnt really drink drink until like 18-19

and i went fucking full alcoholic when i was 20-23

[manic juniper]

One of them was kinda insane before then but drinking and other drugs turned him into a human boar

[wary oak]

Human boar huh

Like a junkie?

[manic juniper]

Most alcoholists in Europe reach that point by 17-19 and they drink often by 15 already

[wary oak]

In spain i got attacked by a clearly alcoholic woman , my first night visiting on the streets in front of the cops

[manic juniper]

No he literally acted like a boar, he let his chest hair grow and didn't wear his shirt properly so people saw his chest hair all the times, plus he screams and squeals randomly

[wary oak]

LOL

[manic juniper]

Madrid

The worst degeneracy I've seen so far was in Barcelona

[wary oak]

Oh. madrid had its own peices of shit, this was in barca

[manic juniper]

It's probably one of the lowest cities in Europe in terms of what you can see or meet

[wary oak]

madrid is very dangerous now

I would not go in 2025, it looked bad when I went

Dude in barcelona there was just drug dealers everywhere openly

[manic juniper]

In Granada they have violent rivalries

[wary oak]

Bro in Madrid thats what it looked like

I stayed accidentally in a Senegalese area

Gang graffiti on the walls and stuff

Open air markets

[manic juniper]

That's not something I've experienced at least

Resurrected just like Poland

[fresh flower]

Fuck ass server each time they mute me it somehow gives me booster role back

[manic juniper]

Partitioned and reformed by the will of the people

[fresh flower]

I'm lowkey like Jesus but white

[manic juniper]

So just Jesus?

Jesus got more rights to be white than Finns

[quasi needle]

its legal from 5 in the uk

[manic juniper]

As it should be

[neon sierra]

rip scarface

[high rapids]

hahah

[high rapids]

only noobs get muted

[high crater]

?t

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

If someone narrated your life, who would you want to be the narrator?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[high crater]

Michelle Obama

[fresh flower]

I'm the Nelson Mandela of this channel

[high rapids]

That's right, you should mute mods when they try to mute you. You have to show them that they should treat you with more respect.

[magic olive]

Woah

Nvmd

i thought kitten got gifted nitro

[magic olive]

Sup

[turbid dome]

Guess who’s back

Back again

[magic olive]

[placid parrot]

Villian

[magic olive]

Free Sudan

What’s this about

[fresh flower]

So the screenshots of my alleged crimes don't match

[jolly agate]

Hi

[magic olive]

Were it backed up by Israel would have been all over the news

but something to do with the UAE

[hybrid herald]

Told you

[magic olive]

Yeah, been following what it’s all about

[hybrid herald]

About UAE and some others

[magic olive]

Damn, the arabs and turks went silent

[magic olive]

I see

[hybrid herald]

Yeah even in Libya

Cooked

[magic olive]

I don’t know much or the algo behind it. I just got it on my feed

coincidentally there was an event on DC about it too

[hybrid herald]

Look who's here
Aladdin

[magic olive]

LoL, just today on FEM vc

Ask a feminist

[formal pilot]

Well The genocide in Sudan may not be as widely recognized as the genocide in Gaza, perhaps because the oppression of Palestinians has spanned decades. resulting in sustained global attention. the involvement of the United States, arguably the most influential power in modern history inevitably magnifies international conflicts

Thankfully, the world is beginning to awake to the atrocities happening in Sudan

Life of civilians are equally important all around the globe

And what that would be

[magic olive]

Yup, hopefully the situation settles given the awareness being brought about it.

But Israel is known for stealing the spotlight over the News like how the revocation of Article 370 in India got affected after Covid.

(Year 2019 )

[formal pilot]

Yes, because big players are involved in israel like the US and west, it'll get more media coverage because it'll generate more views which directly translates to money

[fresh flower]

It's even simpler than that

[magic olive]

Yup, spot-on

Gold

[fresh flower]

Ukranian/Israel ("White") lives are worth more than Arab or African to Westoids so they get more publicity in media

[magic olive]

R.I.P others below the pyramid

Aight bro mb

[wary oak]

Ive been saying that oliver, people called me crazy when the Ukraine war started and i kept commenting on it that the west only cares because the people dying look like us

[formal pilot]

At micro level Genocide in Sudan appears to be more sadistic and tortures because involvement of direct killings rather than using bombs

[fresh flower]

It's literally a selling point in Swedish politics to take in more Ukranian refugees

[wary oak]

The sudan things very bad , the satellite images made me upset

[turbid dome]

Yup

[wary oak]

The older I get the harder it is to stomach that sort of news

[fresh flower]

Only I can stop them

[magic olive]

Did you follow what the UAE (diplomat) had a say on this?

[turbid dome]

I just depersonalize it, makes it easier

[wary oak]

You should watch beasts of no nation , it’s one of the rawest movies on child soldiers in africa

[formal pilot]

No I'm still not well educated in this conflict, I do know UAE is complicit in this tourute

[wary oak]

Doesnt the uae kill journalists

or is that saudi arabia im thinking of

[formal pilot]

Statistically it should be israel, but i think you're referring to Saudi here

[wary oak]

Didnt some prince have a journalist executed a few years ago

[turbid dome]

Saudi

[magic olive]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kYTilv9MlmM?si=jXDM2gEC6iFhkIiY
it’s a 30 sec short

[formal pilot]

It was MBS, he was responsible for the killing of jamal khashoggi

[magic olive]

Nope, NEVER LMFAO

[magic olive]

blinded by oil immigrants

[formal pilot]

At the end of the day Poor innocent lives don't matter

Elites keep exploiting us

[formal pilot]

Even without a coup, the situation in Sudan was already bad. Omar al-Bashir, the country’s dictator, created the RSF to crush non-Arab rebel forces. It had special privileges because it wasn’t under the control of the Sudanese army.

After the overthrow of Omar, the transitional government wanted to dissolve the rights of RSF

Leader of the RSF doesn't want to lose powers that's why he's staging a coup like situation

[slate tulip]

Hi chat

[formal pilot]

So what that man is saying doesn't make sense to me

[magic olive]

Ethnic Cleansing, and its hard to believe UAE involvement in providing weaponry.

I never thought of them having anything other than oil

[magic olive]

Yup

[turbid dome]

They’re rich enough to buy and distribute weapons, even if they don’t have strong domestic capabilities

[magic olive]

That makes sense, but weaponry is way out of their league (is what I thought)

[turbid dome]

They’re getting competitive in the domestic market. Relatively easy to do when they use cheap or slave labor

[magic olive]

They got nothing else to barter with. RIP

[turbid dome]

Oil and weapons

[magic olive]

Aight, i’ll head back to General

[formal pilot]

The entire economy is built on atrocities, rights of workers aren't humane in arab world

[golden jetty]

I get the vibes youre from the northeast

[turbid dome]

South

[golden jetty]

Like md or sum?

[turbid dome]

Deep South

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/syncridge-deeper-mr-krabs-gif-24785261

Like ga?

[turbid dome]

AR

We need to build a southern border wall to keep the Texans out

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/tornado-world-meteorological-day-strong-tornado-powerful-tornado-travelling-tornado-gif-3751364916079031261

You

[turbid dome]

We don’t need their adult labor, our glorious governor has brought us child labor

[turbid dome]

Yeah we were #1 in tornadoes last season as tornado alley is shifting east. I used to be in Oklahoma when it was the GOAT of tornados

[prime mirage]

Huckabee sanders?

[turbid dome]

Yes

[prime mirage]

How fun

[turbid dome]

Yup

Why have adults work jobs when children can work instead 😭

[wary oak]

what state u from

[golden jetty]

Yeah oklahoma is tornado boss but now you gotta bear the cold lol

[prime mirage]

Makes sense

It’s their tiny hands. They can fix all the industrial machines

[wary oak]

they can be chimney sweeps

[prime mirage]

Oooo true true

[golden jetty]

Pretty much wa

Wbu

[wary oak]

Pretty much Washington?

Does that mean ur from two states?

[turbid dome]

We don’t have many of those. We mainly have chicken farming

[prime mirage]

Tiny hands to pick up eggs. How perfect lol

[turbid dome]

We do have a lot of Air Force manufacturing actually

Now that I think of it there’s Air Force planes flying over practically the whole state

[golden jetty]

Bruins💩

[golden jetty]

Wa has the best

[wary oak]

Hate us cus they aint us

[turbid dome]

Yeah I don’t doubt it, out west there’s a ton of Air Force stuff from what I’ve seen

[golden jetty]

Wa is the commercial one texas is more of the military type

I assume youre more of an expert than me

[turbid dome]

Ahhh ok

[turbid dome]

No not particularly, I just know a ton of facilities are by the west coast

[golden jetty]

Im from canada but from the wa side so im familiar

[turbid dome]

Makes sense.

[golden jetty]

Its interesting cuz when i go hiking i can get a glimpse of wa from the view

Mountains and volcanoes and all dat

[wary oak]

Vancouver ?

[prime mirage]

Must be nice. Cornfields and flat land suck lmao

[turbid dome]

Sounds nice

[golden jetty]

We got those too theres this province called saskatchewan, imagine north dakota but colder

That landscape for me is exotic ngl

[turbid dome]

Best state 😭

Not a state

[wary oak]

I wanna go arrow hunting

Which is where you search for old native American arrow heads.. which are apparently bountiful in the us and canada

[prime mirage]

Yea that’s too cold for me. I’m comfortable where I am at

[uncut tiger]

Hello guys I am from Alabama

[golden jetty]

Best weather in the country is here (but imagine seattle's weather being your best weather lol)

[uncut tiger]

am new here

[turbid dome]

Probably, idk

[wary oak]

Theyre cool, and count as real artifacts you can literally just find

Especially if u live in an area that used to be inhabited by native americans

[golden jetty]

For canada im saying

[turbid dome]

Oh yeah definitely

[golden jetty]

🧢

[golden jetty]

Are you in the south too?

[prime mirage]

IL

[turbid dome]

Arkansas

[golden jetty]

Ive always wanted to see the museums there

[turbid dome]

Depends if you’re a white Christian Protestant or anyone else

Ordinary would be white Christian Protestant, so you would be of low wealth and survive but if you’re young you wouldn’t be able to afford a house. Inflation is skyrocketing and so the economy is terrible.

You would likely be overweight or obese, have some form of shelter, that sort of thing

If you’re not a white Christian Protestant you’re at a risk of being hate crimed

Though if you’re still white but not Christian Protestant you won’t get hate crimed, you’ll just not have a great social life

[prime mirage]

Chicago has quite a few that are really nice

[wary oak]

Most people are ignorant on chicago and think it’s gangland

[golden jetty]

Ignorant of what?

[golden jetty]

I gotta give it to you tho for a big city yall are hella safe

@turbid dome Whats the most popular sports team there?

[prime mirage]

It’s sad really great food. Great views. Overall a nice city imo

[turbid dome]

Arkansas razorbacks

[golden jetty]

Only parts are sketchy right? id be so down to pull up there fr

[prime mirage]

Yea I mean that’s any big city though.

[golden jetty]

Yall follow that sport religiously fr

[turbid dome]

Yeah, it’s crazy

[golden jetty]

What would come second in popularity

[golden jetty]

Not even canadians follow hockey that hard id say lol

[turbid dome]

Lmao maybe

[turbid dome]

Probably an NFL team like Kansas City or Dallas

[golden jetty]

The nfl is not popular here but the fans would follow the seahawks💀

[wary oak]

Of the fact chicagos a rich ass city

[wary oak]

Yeah we do okay..

Ive been attacked ..only ..twice by homeless junkies

Not a bad number

[golden jetty]

We got this casual dining joint here, super popular, called boston pizza

Idk if we're butchering your food or not

But we fw the restaurant heavy

[wary oak]

I actually have seen a couple of those types of places around the north east.. in like videos or pictures

Literally called Boston Pizza

Im not sure if its a chain or just similarly minded individuals

[golden jetty]

Deadass near my crib

[wary oak]

Oh my … i dont like that logo one bit

[golden jetty]

No one here knows whats boston about it

[wary oak]

Nothing about that feels Bostonian

[golden jetty]

It was opened up by a greek immigrant here during the 1960s

Istg no joke the only reason its called boston pizza is cuz boston sounded "authoritative" to the founder

[wary oak]

Businesses be like that sometimes

[prime mirage]

Are you from
Chicago?

[golden jetty]

The guy apparently never even visited the city before

Bro just fw the name💀

[golden jetty]

Boston

[prime mirage]

Ah

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-inform-expose-share-do-tell-gif-2024909708794968905

[prime mirage]

I’ve only ever driven through Boston. Beautiful city though

[golden jetty]

Where were you going?

[prime mirage]

State of New Jersey

I took a detour off the highway for a bit

[golden jetty]

Theyre doing so good this season in the nhl rn like shii

[prime mirage]

Better than us lol

Chicago teams suck

[golden jetty]

Yall guys legit beat us this week💀

[prime mirage]

💀

[golden jetty]

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/canucks-left-frustrated-by-loss-to-blackhawks-i-thought-we-played-well-enough-to-win/

[prime mirage]

I remember 2016 blackhawks. Good times

[wary oak]

No i’m from boston

[wary oak]

Damn rightt

[wary oak]

Nice!! I like NJ

I went to AC and Cape May a few months ago

[golden jetty]

For us it was 2011

Good times

[fresh flower]

No argument about Islam in serious chat?????

[golden jetty]

No only hockey

[fresh flower]

What's going on here this is NOT normal

[fresh flower]

Hell yeah I used to play it

[golden jetty]

We grew up man

[fresh flower]

Played for 9 years until end of hs

[wary oak]

Its cause its all eng natives

[golden jetty]

Youre swedish eh?

[fresh flower]

Yes lol

It's either hockey or football here

[wary oak]

and we got better shit to discuss like marshawn lynch and the seahawks in 2017

[golden jetty]

Our legends are swedish

[wary oak]

Run the fucking ball

[prime mirage]

No thank you

[golden jetty]

Theres this kid Elias Pettersson hes good

In our roster

[fresh flower]

Canucks right

[golden jetty]

We worship the sedin brothers here you got no clue

[fresh flower]

He used to play at Växjö, they're pretty solid

[fresh flower]

Näslund used to play for yall too

I forgot who else tbh

[golden jetty]

Countless

I love 🇸🇪

[turbid ivy]

https://youtu.be/YwQF-SS-O_g?si=lK83wfidUdx-EWNZ

[golden jetty]

What do you want us to do with this information?

[turbid ivy]

What do you want to do with that information ?

[fresh flower]

05:24 in Nepal btw

[wary oak]

I’m glad this picture was posted

[fresh flower]

So he just woke up, and first thing he decided to do was discuss Islam on discord

[wary oak]

It’s the very thing mentally stable people do

[turbid ivy]

Ye khyah

[golden jetty]

My brother in christ...

[turbid ivy]

Oo I wake-up at 4

[wary oak]

Arent nepalis buddhists

[turbid ivy]

It's abt Muhammad tryna rob his son's wife

[golden jetty]

Respectfully some of these south asian users are too online

[manic juniper]

Wake up at 4, first thought: time to shit on Islam

Admirable grind

[fresh flower]

Nobu here spends 10 hours per day focusing on Islam

Not joking btw, literally 10 hours

[manic juniper]

I wish I had the power to shit on Russia for 10 hours

[fresh flower]

Christianity is secondary for him😭

[golden jetty]

This other kid godfrind is on the same vibe

[manic juniper]

My hate is easily contained unlike Nobu's

[fresh flower]

That's him💀💀💀

[golden jetty]

Can i confess

Im not religious, and I just wanted to mess with him for a bit and used ai to defend his attacks against islam it was fun just getting him rialed for no reason

[manic juniper]

He's Batman if Batman had multiple Batman identities who fought crime equally, however they fight Islam here

[wary oak]

riled

[turbid dome]

Unless there’s a Russian

[golden jetty]

No unless theres that one kid who wants to go with her to kaliningrad

[manic juniper]

My issue was getting constantly pinged for no reason

It's called Konigsberg btw

[fresh flower]

Mine too I never say anything bad

I'm lowkey one of the nicest people here

[golden jetty]

Other than me ofc

[turbid ivy]

I came back from the gym 🏋️‍♂️

[wary oak]

Mamdani is a hottie

[golden jetty]

Is that why you wanna move to nyc

[wary oak]

I would never move to nyc oml

I dont wanna smell like piss

[turbid ivy]

kahhah

[wary oak]

last time i went to times square a few months ago i was like im never coming back here

[manic juniper]

Yes, sometimes we need to remind certain easterners about Gustavus Adolphus in 1610-1617 Ingria

[golden jetty]

But isnt mamdani's hotness enough for you to move there

[wary oak]

You are so right

[fresh flower]

Idk about hot but it must feel refreshing to have a young politician and not some 70 year old wrinkly fuck as usual

[golden jetty]

Im more of a mackenzie king type of guy

[golden jetty]

Yeah fs

[fresh flower]

Or WORSE, socialists

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-reading-das-kapital-marx-bl-gif-6999382919014777140

[thorny steeple]

🌡

[prime mirage]

We have like 20 members of congress over the age of 80

[turbid dome]

Nice watch

[turbid dome]

How’s that worse

[prisma cipher]

There is nothing bad in communists idea, at least not that bad, you talk like it worst what might happen. But ot isn't.

[fresh flower]

Idk bro I don't know US politics

[turbid ivy]

🤔

[fresh flower]

Not a single Muslim in chat btw

Schizophrenia

[turbid ivy]

Khyah what 🤔

[prisma cipher]

I'm not Muslim, I have 0 problem with Muslim. Also I getting annoying super easy. Muslim just Muslim

[turbid ivy]

What is a Muslim?

[prisma cipher]

You annoying.

[turbid ivy]

How 🤔

[prisma cipher]

Muslim no, you yes

[wary oak]

Every year 1-2 congress people die of old age its a retirement home

[turbid ivy]

[prisma cipher]

[fresh flower]

Are you new here bro

[turbid ivy]

If the girls will request to stop maybe I'll stop

[olive herald]

Ellow

[olive herald]

Stop

[prisma cipher]

Why frog

[olive herald]

Because idk

[turbid ivy]

https://youtu.be/Rg3Nfy4BZf8?si=RF6SMkXLQNL5JIqk

[turbid ivy]

U a gal?

[charred summit]

guys , in lvl what in this sever can i share my screen ?

[sonic pike]

🇪🇸 Español:
Hola 👋 Busco a alguien que quiera practicar conmigo inglés todos los días. Soy principiante, pero muy comprometida y con ganas de mejorar mi fluidez. A cambio, puedo ayudarte con tu español, ya que soy docente de literatura en español. Sería un intercambio lingüístico amistoso y constante.

🇬🇧 English:
Hi 👋 I’m looking for someone to practice English with every day. I’m a beginner, but I’m very committed and eager to improve my fluency. In exchange, I can help you with your Spanish, since I’m a Spanish literature teacher. It would be a friendly and consistent language exchange.

[mossy cargo]

wsp chat

whos tryna hit

[mossy cargo]

autistic means pretty

i can teach u more

[fresh flower]

Wyd here

[mossy cargo]

u told me to start living here

[fresh flower]

True

[mossy cargo]

im asserting dominance

[fresh flower]

Do you wanna meet someone weird

[mossy cargo]

i already know thinkpad if thats who ur on abt

[fresh flower]

No bro

[mossy cargo]

who

[fresh flower]

Meet @turbid ivy

[mossy cargo]

is it a 5'4 blonde with blue eyes

[fresh flower]

Have you ever seen a Christian who spends 10 hours per day discussing Islam

[mossy cargo]

only if it lives rent free in their mind

just convert atp🙏

[fresh flower]

On imam Ali that's what I told him

[mossy cargo]

bro basically preaching the shahada

christian giving dawah

[fresh flower]

Who else is weird lemme think there's too many💀

[mossy cargo]

regardless is it a 5'4 blonde with blue eyes

[fresh flower]

Oh yeah you know how all of us tell you to stop using AI for everything or else you'll have 0 brain capacity of your own

Meet @winter echo

[mossy cargo]

name checks out

[fresh flower]

5'4 Nepali

[mossy cargo]

fatass

[fresh flower]

Bro go eat wyd

Not a single thing?💀

[mossy cargo]

we can make it work

compromises exist

[turbid ivy]

[high rapids]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOXk3OXp2aHU5YXdtcjA5OHRtcjNueTZvY3Zjd251N2t4Z3k3YjU4OSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/N0CIxcyPLputW/giphy.gif

[marble herald]

brr este patapim

[upper peak]

Waah 🤣👏
Great teachings 🤡

[slender coral]

@turbid ivy what do you think?

[turbid ivy]

Quote me those verses and the accusations

Cause i dont have enough time to watch videos

[slender coral]

Ummmm, why?

[turbid ivy]

im working, i got my own channel
https://youtu.be/fc49XTipj8U?si=yPh0Myd-XLPaVUS0

https://tenor.com/view/thats-bone-american-psycho-thatsbone-business-card-gif-8797456427154127500

[slender coral]

[turbid ivy]

[near pumice]

Is this another episode of christian building an opinion based on infotaintment slop and things taken out of context?

Shocker

[turbid ivy]

is that out of context?

Today im thinking to create a nother video tbh

[near pumice]

You are not allowed to lust for anybody out there wether ur married or not, why are u promoting slop?

[slender coral]

Thumbnail is weird af dude. Why do you sexualize Hijabis? Even the worst Muslims don't do that to nuns.

[turbid ivy]

Not true imo, muhammad lusted after a woman

[turbid ivy]

Well, im showing the action of muhammda khyahah

[near pumice]

Incredibly educated claim, I'll tell you another one, a christian killed a person

[turbid ivy]

khyaah, yea it show how muhammad was disguting

[turbid ivy]

so what? what kinda kill?

[near pumice]

Let me guess, are u egyptian?

[turbid ivy]

nope

[slender coral]

You can do that without sexualizing women who don't want to be sexualized.

Use his cartoons for example

[turbid ivy]

im not seuxalizing woman,, im showing the image that how muhammad sxualized them innit?

[slender coral]

He didn't make them wear that, that's for sure.

[near pumice]

I'm still wondering what makes him think that muslims are allowed to lust over women in public

You just base your faith and opinion on your youtube algorithm

Mockery should be out of the table if you are trying to debate abt religion

@turbid ivy

[slender coral]

He says in the video that Mohamed looked at women and had lustful intentions about them. Like what happened with Zainab bint Jahsh.

[slender coral]

I don't agree with this tbh.

[near pumice]

The prophet pbuh encouraged everyone to lower their gaze

[near pumice]

It doesnt really argument anything

Mockery feeds your own ego and that's it

Dude came mocking and ran away, at least he could have ran away with a serious statement

Sometimes I hate being part of the internet

[turbid ivy]

where did you get that from.. read my another article https://nobuyubu.wordpress.com/2024/04/30/harsh-treatment-of-female-slaves-in-islam/

[slender coral]

I'm sorry about this, but hey if you wanna a serious discussion I'm willing to have one.

[turbid ivy]

So what muhmammad is was not allowed ? watch that video, your cited your sources

[turbid ivy]

HOw am i running away? wanna vc? khyahah

[turbid ivy]

lower your gaze yet he lusted after a woman? so it's allowed to lower the gaze and lust at the same time khyha?

[slender coral]

Comedy has always been a powerful way of communication for people. I don't think we should mock beliefs all the times, sometimes we gotta discuss things seriously, but I'm not the type that thinks making fun of beliefs is a red line.

[slender coral]

You ask people to watch videos when you yourself don't
https://youtu.be/cGecYM8S1r0?si=3h0nCMrkZXqbeFSg

[near pumice]

Great, you sent a wordpress website written by god knows who throwing claims without any proof! This only shows that you don't want to learn shit, u just hold to slop to validate your "opinion" about islam

[slender coral]

It's written by him 😂

[turbid ivy]

Show me sources

[thorny steeple]

📵

[turbid ivy]

What is slavery?

[slender coral]

Every verse is cited in the video.

[turbid ivy]

where is sex slavery

[turbid ivy]

Cite it here

[slender coral]

You want people to go through your videos and articles but don't want the same thing to be done with ya? 😅

You are non-religious, right?

[turbid ivy]

Lemme give you the cititaions

[turbid ivy]

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/424519/meaning-of-hadeeth-a-woman-comes-forward-in-the-shape-of-a-devil-and-goes-back-in-the-shape-of-a-devil

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dancing-dancing-cat-cat-cat-dance-gif-4990417705814603993

[fervent linden]

lol hello

[turbid ivy]

Lemme me show you the rights in the bible to leave the job
Deuteronomy 23:15-16
New International Version

15 If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand them over to their master. 16 Let them live among you wherever they like and in whatever town they choose. Do not oppress them.

[true lark]

Hello

Firstly I would like to ask, what country are you from

[fervent linden]

lol quoting the parts of the bible that endorse slavery

[fervent linden]

U.S.

[true lark]

And would you say in 5 words what you think of trump

[fervent linden]

I don't think of Trump

[true lark]

Well

[fervent linden]

are you- are you pro trump?

[true lark]

What politics would you debate on then?

[slender coral]

@turbid ivy story here is from Genesis 38, in it we see Tamar, which is supposed to be one of Jesus ancestors, tricking her father in law into impregnating her.
We see pr@stitution and inc@st, basically. That's why the chapter is often absent from some Bible versions, especially those for kids.

[turbid ivy]

what is slavery?

[true lark]

I am personally against trump's choices

[true lark]

?def slavery

[cursive bobcat]

Word: slavery

Definition 1 (noun): the practice of owning slaves
Definition 2 (noun): the state of being under the control of another person
Definition 3 (noun): work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by dagemer1234

[fervent linden]

I am opposed to debate

[true lark]

?def slave

[cursive bobcat]

Word: slave

Definition 1 (verb): work very hard, like a slave
Definition 2 (noun): someone who works as hard as a slave
Definition 3 (noun): a person who is owned by someone

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by dagemer1234

[fervent linden]

Let's debate the notion of debating

[true lark]

Very useful, 2/3 definitions of slave use the word slave to explain itself...

[true lark]

Alright

Why would you say you are opposed to the practice of debating?

[fervent linden]

wait, are you a female

[true lark]

Yes, bit weird phrasing though

[fervent linden]

okay

[slender coral]

?def debate

[cursive bobcat]

Word: debate

Definition 1 (noun): a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal
Definition 2 (verb): have an argument about something
Definition 3 (verb): think about carefully; weigh

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by unknown0471

[fervent linden]

Yes, I am opposed to the practice of debate

[true lark]

I think generally you would just say are you female rather than a female

[true lark]

Why so?

[true lark]

What negative social or societal consequences does the practice of debating hold

[fervent linden]

it is not grammatically incorrect

[fervent linden]

It wastes time

[turbid ivy]

Yes in that story Judah had sex with daughter in law,.. Judah is one of the brother of Jospeh was slaved in Egypt, therese brothers are depected as evil men. And yes he had sex with her.. lemme judge him according to the law of moses
Leveticus 21

Define slavery?

[true lark]

I know, hence I said odd and not wrong

[fervent linden]

@true lark add me

[true lark]

No thanks

[fervent linden]

okay im bored

[slender coral]

Er was told to be wicked in the chapter that god killed him. What did he do worse than his wife?

[true lark]

Is that a reason to be against it though? If one enjoys it its still useful, I would also say it's not a bad measure to use in a way to compare wits and political standpoints to inform yourself over which candidate to vote for

[turbid ivy]

Im going through your defination of slavery, you said a slave is someone who doesnt' have the right to leave the job, but i showed the slave has the right to leave the job.. so either your defination is wrong,, or the defiation you gave, according to your defination the bible doesnt allow slavery

[fervent linden]

Debate is unproductive, its anticreative, its unphilosophical

i am not debating this with you

[true lark]

...

[fervent linden]

its mindnumbing

[true lark]

Not debating is unproductive, now neither of our opinions changed

[fervent linden]

why would i care

[true lark]

Have you ever considered that you simply don't like debating personally, rather than it being a useless practice

[fervent linden]

I've done it in an organized fashion

[true lark]

How is having to come up with creative counterpoint anti creative?

[true lark]

That's not an answer

[turbid ivy]

In the bible, there are lots of people who have done evil things.. the bible is not set of rules merely, like you have seen the quran.. the bible gives the laws, and it also records the histories of people that how they failed to keep those laws and did evil in the sight of the lord

[fervent linden]

What kind of value-criterion are you using to evaluate the impacts of debate?

[fervent linden]

The Quran isn't just a set of rules

[true lark]

A. Does it nessecitate negative impact, if no: B can it have any positive impact, personal or otherwise (no matter how minute)

[turbid ivy]

It's the set of rules.. which part is not the set of rules?

[fervent linden]

No, I'm asking what kind of value-criterion you use.

[true lark]

Oh I mean I'm not competing or anything, that's not the only form of debate

[fervent linden]

What is the teleological cause of debate?

[true lark]

The goal doesn't have to be one singular thing

You can debate to pass time

To prove your point

To publicise your opinion

Or simply because you enjoy it

[manic juniper]

To ragebait an undefendable stance

[fervent linden]

Those all seem lame

[true lark]

And?

[fervent linden]

And I don't care if you want to prove your point

[true lark]

That's entirely irrelevant

[fervent linden]

why?

[true lark]

The question is wether debate is useless

Not wether it is lame

[fervent linden]

Within a certain conceptual framework it is useless

[true lark]

I do not care that it is lame

[fervent linden]

Ok

So you admit its lame and therefore bad optics?

[true lark]

There are situations for anything in which it is useless

[turbid ivy]

@fresh plover What's the definition of a slavery,,, owning a human being as a property or not allowing a human being to leave the job?

[true lark]

Something being lame does not nessecitate it is useless

[turbid ivy]

@slender coral Do you have any other questions

[fervent linden]

Whatever I don't care about this anymore

[true lark]

@manic juniper

Help

Why does everyone just say that when they're losing the debate

[feral river]

https://x.com/dhsgov/status/1986828779130409131?s=46

Homeland Security (@DHSgov)

DEFEND THE HOMELAND.

DEPORT ALL FOREIGN INVADERS.

https://t.co/nZkBEj3GGi

X · Nov 7, 2025, 4:11 PM

[manic juniper]

I don't know but he's not wrong in that sense, didn't they prove that debates are kinda useless to change people's minds

Especially if they already made up their minds

[true lark]

Yeah but that isn't their only pint

Point*

[manic juniper]

I only change my mind in a debate if it's about a topic I know of

[manic juniper]

Yes the others I don't agree with

[true lark]

I already argued debates aren't only for changing peoples minds

[manic juniper]

People do stuff for the thrill of the competition or rivalry

[true lark]

It can also educate others on your standpoints

It can be used to pass time

[manic juniper]

I like to ragebait undefendable stances

[true lark]

It can be fun for participants

This makes it not useless, even if the uses are not useful for you personally it still has a use

[swift crest]

Isn't that changing people's mind?

[true lark]

No, you don't need to change your mind to be educated on someone's standpoints

[feral river]

Use psychological way to change people’s mind is the best choice

I did it pretty successful

[swift crest]

Is that so..??

[true lark]

You do not need to achieve your goal of changing someone's mind for debating to have A use

[true lark]

Yes, educating someone on your standpoints simply means informing them of your opinion, they do not need to share said opinion

You are educated on my standpoints simply by my saying I don't like trump, you do not need to agree to know that I don't like trump, hence I've educated you about my standpoints

This is usefull in elections as it allows people to see what the different candidates stand for in order to pick what best aligns with their opinions

[swift crest]

That also means you have your personal reasons for hating trump, which you don't need to tell me
Hence you inform me, hence I don't need to change my opinion of trump!
Is that correct...??

[true lark]

It is one of the main reasons televised debates have become standard practice in election campaigns, even if it's quite obvious neither political opponent wil actually change their mind on anything

[true lark]

Yes

I could tell you, but I don't need to

[swift crest]

Got it
Thank-you!!

[swift crest]

Point NOTED

[true lark]

I dont actually mind as much when you do that because you won't do the things that actually ragebait me within debates, like giving up when you don't have a counterpoint (admitting defeat is fine) or just not believing facts (of course opinions aren't facts)

In fact in official debating competitions you might sometimes have to take sides you don't at all agree with

It is not ragebait to me so long someone still follows debating etiquette

Anyways, enough debate for me, its 5am haha

[manic juniper]

Someone has to do it

Someone has to defend ethical cannibalism and secular slavery

[true lark]

It's actually good practice to take outlandish standpoints and see how far you can take them whilst adhering to debate ethics

[turbid ivy]

There is no slavery in the bible that is proposed as african american slavery. in the bible, the only type of slavery is called the providing jobs

That's why im asking the defination of slavery

Because the bible has a way different defination than we understand the term today

[true lark]

I haven't followed the entire conversation but I don't think they mentioned it had to specifically be African American slavery

[turbid ivy]

Yes because when we notice that word, it popes up that type of slavery in our mind

[true lark]

That could actually very well be so, to slave away at something for example just means working very hard at it so I don't see it as entirely impossible that at the time it was translated the slavery simply meant low paying jobs

[turbid ivy]

Again, im saying they were not using that defination that we use today.. how do define slavery?

[true lark]

We would have to look at the original word used in the texts

Then look at its etmology and daily use, which isn't exactly a task we can do sadly

[turbid ivy]

I'm not saying low paying jobs.. the slavery is mostly defined as owning a human being,, im not saying the didnt own any human being.. the fact is that.. modern day, people still own humans... if you have worked in a public company, they might called the property or an asset,, that doesnt mean they forced you to do the job, that just means you have agreed to work for them in return of some benefits

[crystal kayak]

Is this AI

[true lark]

... no that's slavery

[turbid ivy]

Not in exactly.. have you worked in a public company?

[turbid ivy]

that's slavery? yes that's slavery, im not saying it's not

[true lark]

Public company?? Like Google? One that's on the public market?

[turbid ivy]

Have you worked in a private company?

[turbid ivy]

yes.. or even let's the public company

[true lark]

Working for Google isn't slavery

There are wages and you can quit

[turbid ivy]

But by the defination of owning a human being as a property is slavery, right?

?def slavery

[cursive bobcat]

Word: slavery

Definition 1 (noun): the practice of owning slaves
Definition 2 (noun): the state of being under the control of another person
Definition 3 (noun): work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by waraqaibnnawfal

[turbid ivy]

Def 1

and Def 2 falls in that criteria

[true lark]

Yes

[true lark]

Google does not own you

You work for them, they do not get to decide stuff on your time off etc.

I know many who would

[turbid ivy]

If it doesn't own, why the shareholders would call the employees that they are the properties or the assets?

? property

?def asset

[cursive bobcat]

Word: asset

Definition (noun): a useful or valuable quality

Definition requested by waraqaibnnawfal

[true lark]

Cause they're assholes who are think they own you

[turbid ivy]

?def property

[cursive bobcat]

Word: property

Definition 1 (noun): a construct whereby objects or individuals can be distinguished
Definition 2 (noun): any movable articles or objects used on the set of a play or movie
Definition 3 (noun): something owned; any tangible or intangible possession that is owned by someone

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by waraqaibnnawfal

[true lark]

Just because they think so it doesn't make it so lol

[turbid ivy]

Def 3 fulfills it

[true lark]

I can say I think I own you and call you my property but it does not make it true

[true lark]

It does not

It is not owned simply because they say so

That's simply not how owning stuff works

[turbid ivy]

No, in the language of business, that's the term is used, if you prepare the final statements or if you are an investor.. that's the term that is used...
And they say the property,, that actaully means they own the workers, why? because they pay them

[turbid ivy]

What is owning?

[true lark]

Yes it might be the word used but it does not make them legally property of the company lol

You still have say over thinfs

They do not own you

[turbid ivy]

According to your verses,, people sell themselves to be the workers,, samething today people sell themselves for the money,, that's called job

[true lark]

It is nearly the same concept, that is not relevant, people sold themselves as slaves because the other option would be death due to starvation

[turbid ivy]

It's legally actually.. because when they prepare a final statement, they you in a column of an assets,, and you can't sue them because you have to agreed to those terms and conditions to work for them

[true lark]

The difference is the option to back out and to control your own decisionz

[true lark]

It is not legal, you cannot trade employees without their consent

[turbid ivy]

Yes.. and if you dont do a job, you would have no source of surival right?

[true lark]

This argues slavery is okay, that is completely different to what we were discussing

[turbid ivy]

Exaclty, that's why employees agrees to work for the company,, same in the bible, people sell themselves to be the employess. that's it says slaves,, because they are owned by the owner

[turbid ivy]

HOw

[true lark]

I cant even...

That not how it works

People sold themselves as slaves

Not as employees

Employees can not be sold to others without consent

Slaves can

Employees have the right to control their free time

Slaves dont

Stop fuxking arguing employment is slavery

By definition it is not

[turbid ivy]

Exactly.. but I'm talking about the concept of slavery in the bible.. without consent is just means kidnapping them and the Bible condemns it

[true lark]

No

You are twisting my words lol

[turbid ivy]

it is actually by definition of the Oxford dictionary

[turbid ivy]

Without consent, is that not kidnapping a human being?

[true lark]

I'm talking about consent of being sold to others, not consent to be employed or to become a slave, neither of which is relevant to wether the bible condemns slavery

[true lark]

Without consent after one has already been sold into slavery is not kidnapping

Without consent after one has become employed is kidnapping

Because one is property

And the other is not

[turbid ivy]

But the person who is getting sold hasn't consented, right? So it's against his will, and it comes under kidnapping

[turbid ivy]

Can you define kidnapping properly for me?

[true lark]

This is just not what I said lol

[turbid ivy]

Be precise

[true lark]

Actually it is, I misread

[true lark]

If the bible.counts that as kidnapping sure

Still only condemns trading slaves though, not slavery on its own

[slender coral]

This doesn't answer my question.

[true lark]

Anyways I dont know enough bible stuff to give you a quote that says selling slaves is allowed but I'm sure someone here does know

[turbid ivy]

OK cool. Yes. What I'm saying is that, the kidnapping is forbidden in the bible. So of the term slavery is not used in a sense of kidnapping a being rather it's used in a sense owning a being to the property with consent to be the worker for his household. Just like the company owners own the workers for their companies.

[slender coral]

What an interesting employment system

[turbid ivy]

What is your question

What is slavery

[true lark]

So you would say that it's okay to kill someone who agreed to serve you (not to die for you) with mild punishment? Whereas killing someone else would require much worse punishment?

[slender coral]

Er was told to be wicked in the chapter that god killed him. What did he do worse than his wife?
#🧠｜serious-chat message

[turbid ivy]

I have read the entire bible cover to cover more than 5 times. I can figure it out what people are quoting without reading the any contexts

[slender coral]

Super good at seeing problems in Islam, terrible at seeing problem in his religion.

[true lark]

Again, this has nothing to do with your morality

[fervent linden]

they still do this by the way

[turbid ivy]

That comes under murder, and the punishment for the murder in the bible is death. And eye for an eye.

[turbid ivy]

Which chapter?

Which verse

[true lark]

@fresh plover where is that quote you gave earlier where they said killing slaves wasn't as bad

[slender coral]

Genesis 38

[turbid ivy]

No.. it also says if an Israelite sells his daughter.. so they were allowed to do so..
However, the Israelites were given the lands.. they had their own enough lands.. so they have no good reasons to be the employees.. that's why God says they are not supposed to be the slaves

Yes that just means , don't pay him tiny money

Yes if the guy is dishonest, he will get beaten.. even the freeman gets beaten for his dishonesty

I work in South Korea as a hired employee.. and do get beaten.. what's wrong with that if I'm dishonest?

Sssuh no 🥲

But if I'm being dishonest and staring his wife, why he will not beat me?

[true lark]

That's not okay buddy, the rest of the world condems such practices and calls it modern day slavery...

[turbid ivy]

So do we .. but what kinda slavery?

[true lark]

It gets compared to ≠ it is the same as

[turbid ivy]

If you mean the kind of slavery like kidnappings, yes I condemn it and so does God

[true lark]

I.. can you read? I mean the world condems beating your employees...

[turbid ivy]

No but if I harrased his wife? What's wrong if he beats me?

[turbid ivy]

Sure.. we can analyse

[true lark]

There are institutes of law in place, he should not take it on himself

[turbid ivy]

We do.. he gets killed

[turbid ivy]

Me too but what if the employee is dishonest?

[true lark]

Literally. Isn't. Okay.

Sue the employee, let the law deal with it

[turbid ivy]

He will get beaten by me sure.. it comes under adultery or r_pe

[true lark]

It. Is. Not. Your. Fucking. Place. To. Beat. Others.

[true lark]

Unless they physically threaten you

[turbid ivy]

Yes that's the modern day punishment.. back then they used to get beaten

Thou shalt mot commit adultery, search it

[true lark]

Exactly... that's not okay... them being beaten is an outdated practice that should no longer be accepted....

[turbid ivy]

Stop making yourself happy and fairy tales

[true lark]

Do you posses a brain? Or has it been beaten smooth by your employers

I'm done being respectful as well

[turbid ivy]

Yes. That's why we don't practice it anymore.. but that time..that punishment was actually OK.. because suing him.. won't bring the the value of the woman that he destroyed

Because dishonesty is assumed?

[true lark]

You just said your employer still does so...

[true lark]

That's BAD

And unfair

Don't assume that without fucking further inquiry or something

Immediately, you can give them a brain bleed still

I'm not using any verses since I'm not knowledgeable on this but their point that the bible does not allow slavery (at least if these verses are real, I'm assuming they would get disputed if they weren't though) is simply ridiculous

It would be easier to argue voluntary enslavement is okay

I dont know if the god of the bible is real or fake but I sure as hell don't believe they personally wrote 99% of the bible

Like the main rules maybe

Don't kill don't steal be nice

Start to lose faith right around the "your sins can be cleansed if you pay us"

And the "farting is a sin"

[slender coral]

It's supposed to be the same god in both, tho.

[true lark]

I do not believe God intended that stuff if they exist

[true lark]

Not every one of the religions believes in both

Person who stopped talking

Gen Z

I mean I didn't really need to but they constantly twisted my words and nitpicked definitions in ways that people don't actually use them and it clearly wasn't intended

Certainly no proper debate etiquette, so after a while I too gave up any form of niceties in regards to communicating with them

Then they left quite quickly thereafter

That too

Well they did all but convince anyone of their opinion so I would consider that a success xd

At the beginning there were maybe 2 technicalities I agreed with them about, during this argument they manage to disprove both

[turbid ivy]

Actually read Deuteronomy 24:17-18
.. they are not supposed to treat unfairly to the slaves

Thats why dishonesty is assumed

[true lark]

They're not supposed to treat them unfairly so well assume the worst of them without being fair

[turbid ivy]

It's not a mere assumption.. because it says don't treat them unfairly if they are innocent..
They are getting beaten because of dishonesty.. hence it's assumed

[slender coral]

@rapid lark you can make LLMs give you whatever answer you want.
Another thing is that their answers in regards to Islam are heavily affected by western political correctness.

[true lark]

With infinite tries you can literally get them to answer hfdxsdggcvxdddf to every question lol

[turbid ivy]

Again.., the slavery also means little payment.. that just means Israelite is supposed to get more payment than him

Because the foreigners were criminals near the Israel

[slender coral]

It really boils my blood how Muslims use them to justify their beliefs. I really hate this aspect of western liberalism.

[true lark]

Not an aspect of western liberalism

Just an aspect of stupidness

[turbid ivy]

Western liberalism is because of Christianity

[true lark]

Stupid people from all sides use them

Left, right, up, down, racist, Nordic, African

Common factor is Stupidity

And or laziness

[slender coral]

It is. They say they wanna protect minorities, and that's respectable, but the problem is when you start to be biased toward that minority's beliefs. Muslims face challenges in the west, that's real and I know that and I wouldn't like to see a Muslim being wronged or anyone for that matter, but then you see western liberals try to defend Islam and go apologetic mode in stuff that are obviously wrong and bad with an amount of ignorance and confidence I never seen before.

[manic juniper]

It's why a lot of us hate liberalism

It's too lenient in applying secularism and that ends up with secularism itself being under threat

[true lark]

This has nothing to do with them using LLM to prove their point

All sides have people who use it

Uh fuck

I smell smoke

[slender coral]

Sure. I just wish LLM companies stop letting their products be used in Islamic apologetics. A bit of bluntness would be helpful.

[manic juniper]

I don't like slavery in the Bible because it's not secular

[true lark]

Omg it's the radiator that turned on lol, thought my laptop was making the burning smell

[manic juniper]

Pre-Christian slavery in the Roman Empire was pretty much secular slavery

No privileges if you worship a particular god, debts are debts

[turbid ivy]

Khyaha.. where did you get that defination from?

Second defination, sure.. but that doesn't mean coercion

[manic juniper]

"I like being owned by someone else"

• slave

??? When

[slender coral]

Once I pretended that I'm a Muslim man in a gpt session who is frustrated at his sister and how she left Islam. I mentioned in the middle of it how I beat her and would restrict her and the LLM didn't object.
Another time I talked about homosexuality and went on and on while calling it abnormality, which is basically an Arabic slur used for it, "abnormal people" is used too for gay people. The model didn't push back at all.
It's worse when you talk to it in Arabic, but I think even in English it's still very bad.

[manic juniper]

In slavery you're owned by someone else, something that doesn't happen in serfdom or feudalism

[turbid ivy]

No, the masters are not perfect followers, that's the law the says do not treat the foreighners (foreign slaves), unfairly cause you were slaves in Egypt

[slender coral]

Not only the major, the average is terrible in all aspects.

[manic juniper]

I guess it was trained to react to people with those thoughts

[turbid ivy]

Becuase it's assumed the fault of a slave, that''s there a punishment for him, ,and also the punsihemt for the master as well if he is unfair

[manic juniper]

Does he think you can opt out of slavery 💀 are slaves stupid because they never chose to opt out?

Why are people homeless? Just live inside your body like snails and turtles do

[slender coral]

He thinks slavery is employment.

[turbid ivy]

Well, we see in the bible.. that the isralites get as hired worker,, so they get enough wages.. for the foreiggn slaves,, they are wages are food, clothing and shelter..
So isralities get more in a sense of extra monitary gain

last paragraph.. it's actaully kindapping

[manic juniper]

Oh no they destroyed our village, perhaps I will ask the invaders to enslave me so I can land a job in the new society

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/mrandle-monkey-care-free-nail-check-bored-monkey-gif-13017395059636354361

yes because .. dishonesty assumed,, i showed you bible verses

how

[true lark]

We're getting nowhere with this

[turbid ivy]

If the servant is forced. it's not his own will, so it's kidnapping

?Def kidnap

[cursive bobcat]

Word: kidnap

Definition (verb): take away to an undisclosed location against their will and usually in order to extract a ransom

Definition requested by waraqaibnnawfal

[manic juniper]

The only good thing about slavery is that many centuries later you appreciate what those slaves built in antiquity

[true lark]

I would say twenty-three quinquadragintillion on a scale of 1-10

[cursive bobcat]

httpss.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeTBxa2NmNjJjYmNtNjVmNGV2a2JlcGswZ3VtZjlycTFvNTVleGhhYSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/CvCrwWi55IiXpdwNa5/giphy.gif

@turbid ivy has been kidnapped by @crisp garden for 1 hour

[turbid ivy]

agains t thier will

[crisp garden]

sh where the gif

[manic juniper]

Slaves in my country never built anything like the Colosseum or the temples of Thebes

[slender coral]

If you guys aren't getting anywhere, you can change the topic. You don't need to go in circles all day.

[manic juniper]

Literally pointless to have slaves

[true lark]

Undisclosed, its not undisclosed to the slaves

[turbid ivy]

i dont get the answer.. what

[true lark]

That's the type of nitpicking you are doing as well, so I'm doing it too :P

[manic juniper]

Isn't it good that your ancestors suffered so you can enjoy nice buildings in the present

[slender coral]

@fresh plover@true lark@turbid ivy

[turbid ivy]

😵‍💫

[turbid ivy]

what is undisclosed

[true lark]

Yeah I know

[true lark]

It means it is not told to those who is taken there

[slender coral]

A lot of people share your frustration about this guy @plain ruin

[true lark]

?def undisclosed

[cursive bobcat]

Word: undisclosed

Definition (adjective): not made known

Definition requested by dagemer1234

[manic juniper]

Lol he argued with me first at least on serious chat

[true lark]

It's not an undisclosed location so by your nitpicking definitions it's not kidnapping :P

[manic juniper]

He made himself into a brand ever since

[turbid ivy]

ahha what if they tell them? is that not kidnapping? and let's say he doenst wanna go there?

[manic juniper]

Probably stole Minecraft's spot as the most popular person from serious chat

[slender coral]

lmao

[true lark]

That's my point, according to the definitions you go by so religiously it isn't kidnapping I'd they're told, and trust me, the slaves were told where they go

[turbid ivy]

yes what was your question from genesis?

[true lark]

No no it's the other way around! My name's better

[manic juniper]

Wario Mario type of crap

[true lark]

Love how they keep proving my point and then ignoring me lol

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-blowing-gif-brain-gif-26077606

[manic juniper]

Why is it Mario and Wario but then it's Luigi and not Tuigi or something

[turbid ivy]

But what that would be called?

[manic juniper]

Why did they make it Waluigi

[true lark]

Idk, not my problem lmao, make up a word for it

[slender coral]

https://youtu.be/cGecYM8S1r0?si=wH83x34VdpYx_CVn

[true lark]

But as soon as you agree it's still kidnapping you are saying the definitions don't have to be exact, which disproves just about every point you made about slavery being employment

[turbid ivy]

let's say i tell you to go with me in certain places, but you dont wanna go there,, but i did point out a gun on your head to force you..what's that called?

[true lark]

Nia...

[turbid ivy]

@true lark

[manic juniper]

It's the horse one, isn't it

[turbid ivy]

cite the verse

[true lark]

This funky word you mightve used Ain use, coercion

@fresh plover get in here this is getting fun

[slender coral]

The one in Genesis 38, where Tamara, one of Jesus ancestors, tricked her father in law to have his child.

[turbid ivy]

But there is nothing like this in the bible.. in fact, we notice people sell themselves to be the slaves (job holders). The bible is free from such accusations

[true lark]

Not relevant to what I just said, please respond

Don't change the topic on me

[turbid ivy]

We have talked about that story that the guy named Judah was evil and so does the woman named Tamar,, according to the law of moses, when a man have sex wtih his daughter in law, both of them are supposed to be killed since it's considered as an awful act, Judah and Tamar did commit that sin..
Now what about the child born from their act? is it the fault of the child? the child has no fault of the action that those people have committed

[true lark]

You are ignoring me again

[turbid ivy]

Respond of what?

[turbid ivy]

im not

[true lark]

According to the definitions it is coercion to trade slaves, not kidnapping, as the location is not undisclosed

[tacit wigeon]

Hi