🧠｜serious-chat

[fresh flower]

Religion this religion that

No one wants to talk about how Taiwan can win a war against China with 5 missiles

[lunar crown]

Religious yapping

[formal pilot]

Fair enough, I hope you are enjoying Kafir era

[lunar crown]

Let's go

[lunar crown]

If whatever happens to Taiwan, the whole world gets fkd up

[crystal kayak]

I would love to know how that is possible

[fresh flower]

We're all dying on that beach

[slender coral]

Some aspects are good, some are bad. But I'm enjoying it overall 🍻

[cursive sphinx]

I know someone who became atheist because he failed in exams
He thinks that Allah would appreciate his time wasting and studying avoidance by making him passing the exams

[placid parrot]

I'm serious

[lunar crown]

Because of chips

[placid parrot]

[formal pilot]

Impossible, rabbi zidni ilma always works

[fresh flower]

Taiwan and Netherlands, we'd all die for them

[turbid dome]

Do you know rabbi shmuley

[formal pilot]

We aren't discussing strategies to make immortal teams in owo

[prisma cipher]

What else can you call them? Their way of thinking is formed by religion, but they deny it.

[lunar crown]

It's a matter of time when the Netherlands will get flooded

[placid parrot]

[formal pilot]

Never heard of it, I do know Yosef Mizrachi

[fresh flower]

It won't happen, they have too much flood protection

[cursive sphinx]

You can't say that while watching game of thrones and expecting it to work

[slender coral]

There was a dua for exams, I'm trying to remember it.

[turbid dome]

He’s like the #1 Israel defender and said that on October 7th Hamas cut off women’s breasts and played ball with them.

He also wrote a book on kosher Sex.

He’s a freak

[formal pilot]

rabbi shah ali sadri?

[lunar crown]

Even if most of the Arctic melts? Cuz I believe it's gonna happen in ~200 yrs

[crystal kayak]

Doesn't it have like advanced air defense system

[fresh flower]

We will all die when that happens

[formal pilot]

Dude coming up with this shi sounds freaky, do you think these people are legit religion or just using religion for business

[slender coral]

اللهم لا يسهل إلا ما جلعته سهل، فأنت تجعل الحزن إن شإت سهلَ. something something و احلل عقدة من لساني يفقهه قولي.
It's: god there's nothing easy other than what you make easy, and then something in the middle. And then the last part I don't fully understand, it's from the story of Muses when he prayed to god so he would be able to speak properly because he used to stutter.
Kids used to say all of that before every exam.

Adults taught it to us of course.

[turbid dome]

Tbh it’s hard to tell but I think it’s business

[crystal kayak]

I would just leave them alone let them believe want their want to believe as long as they don't hurt nobody we won't care

[formal pilot]

Never heard of that, we used to recite
Rabbi shrahli sadri wa yassirli amri wahlul uqdatan mil-lisaani yafqahu qawli

[slender coral]

What is Kosher sex like I wonder.

[lunar crown]

Xi is already looking for a way to live to 150 y.o. 😭

[shell hemlock]

@winter echo

[turbid dome]

I assume the sheets have to have no wrinkles but idk

[plain ruin]

O Prophet Nobu @turbid ivy can you tell us

[slender coral]

Oh that's the second part of what we used to say.

"Allahum la sahl ila ma ja'altahu sahla, fa ant taj'al al hazan in shi'it sahla. Rabbi shrahli sadri wa yassirli amri wahlul uqdatan mil-lisaani yafqahu qawli."

[shell hemlock]

didn't have to call my fan over here

[plain ruin]

@slender coral Don't ApostateProphet and David Wood both support Israel's actions in Gaza?

[turbid dome]

I looked it up just now, apparently there’s more than just the book. He has a whole website with uhhhhhhh stuff

[slender coral]

They did, unfortunately.

[plain ruin]

Sigh
Never will understand american "christians"

[formal pilot]

Yeah I'm familiar with it lol, good old days

[prisma cipher]

I can if in good mood

[turbid ivy]

If im lying,, why dont you come to debate me..

[plain ruin]

Atleast the 25 year old unemployed guy left

[slender coral]

I understand AP though. Non Arab ex-Muslims (even many Arab ex-Muslims) got the whole thing about Palestine pushed down their throats as a matter of good Muslims vs filthy infidels, so it's difficult for many of them to empathize with the Palestinians.

[plain ruin]

@slender coral LOOK😭😭😭 Even after 2 apostate youtubers said its bs😭😭😭💀

[formal pilot]

If they did, most likely i won't be watching them for religious/ philosophical take, they clearly lack the ability to distinguish between good and bad

[prisma cipher]

No good mood for alladin, because he think terrorism in Russia reason for jokes.

[shell hemlock]

i don't understand the logic of telling someone to go in vc to debate when you are alrdy texting with them for the past 10 mins

[slender coral]

He acknowledged that you aren't lying earlier btw, but he thinks you are wrong.

[turbid dome]

To yell over them

[turbid ivy]

come to debate then

[shell hemlock]

i witnessed how n*bu 'debates' firsthand, he just talks over them with his cheap mic

[plain ruin]

Hmmm understandable, he should focus on the facts, all of them, both sides

[last geyser]

Whats topic guys

[crystal kayak]

Why does he always want to vc

[plain ruin]

Zzzzzzzzzz now you're just denying reality

[shell hemlock]

nobody talks to him irl

[hybrid herald]

Just lurk

[turbid dome]

That’s what I’d expect yeah

[plain ruin]

Any real Christian knows that the Bible has said worse than any other mainstream religion

[last geyser]

Bro What do you want from Turks leave us alone

[plain ruin]

Nobu Shapiro?

[hybrid herald]

Tf, I said lurk not turk

[last geyser]

Tf I hate my eyes

[turbid ivy]

if God is destroying his creations.. why so upset?

[formal pilot]

I have even joked about 911, 26/11, genocide in gaza
I take my words back and apologize if it caused you discomfort

[turbid dome]

Ben Shapiro at least is competent at deploying fallacies

[slender coral]

Yeah. Ex-Muslims supporting Israel have always looked emotional for me. And I'm torn between blaming them for letting their emotions drive their views, and blaming Muslims for the hateful and toxic enviroments they put their people in.
But anyway, I'm glad their voices about Israel don't have significant effects on the conflict.

[crystal kayak]

I see well hope you and Aladdin resolve your issues

[plain ruin]

HAHAHAHA😭😭😭😭

[last geyser]

My bad bro LMAO I woke up 20 minute ago. I have brainrot

[hybrid herald]

I can tell

[turbid dome]

My favorite jokes are the ones nobody sees coming.

[turbid ivy]

I dont care what he thinks.. i only care what the text is saying

[formal pilot]

Would it be optimal to get religious/ philosophical takes from people who's opinions are often get driven by emotions rather than critical thinking?

[turbid ivy]

Come to the vc. and refute me

[plain ruin]

Yup, not an easy thing to do
When you understand/see how people become disillusioned with reality because of bad experiences to that degree, it is very understandable

[slender coral]

It's a very inhumane way to see things but ok. Does that apply to the Islamic god too? Since god can do whatever he wants with his creation, you don't have a problem with Islamic cruelty just for being cruelty right?

[crystal kayak]

Why vc

[turbid dome]

Tbh it’s both. If you end up supporting Israel you’re pretty much a hateful and toxic person, just a different variety from what they escaped from

[slender coral]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[turbid ivy]

Why God destroyed those people and everything they had possessed?

[formal pilot]

I call it premature E jokes, it comes out of nowhere

[slender coral]

Just get straight to your point please.

[turbid dome]

Not going to make a plane hitting the tower joke

[plain ruin]

Why are you running away to vc Mr. Shapiro? Can't disprove what Arab Ex-Muslims are saying?

[turbid ivy]

Do you like archelogy?

[plain ruin]

"They were evil doing this and that"

[slender coral]

Not very into it tbh.

[turbid ivy]

I will.. obs.. so you tell me.. when men were naked.. why muhammad went to meet naked men?

[formal pilot]

Martiniii likes palaeontology, he's into oldies

[prisma cipher]

Before you joked about terrorists, I liked you. And I rarely like anyone.

[turbid dome]

Lmaoooooo

[cursive sphinx]

The Islamic Supermacy

[turbid dome]

No long holy moly just guacamole

[cursive sphinx]

You keep discussing what you can't deny

[shell hemlock]

no it's just one person talking about it

[plain ruin]

Call me when you're able to read English, they went to him, it says that in your English translation
Pathetic

[slender coral]

What would you like to discuss?

[turbid ivy]

Sometimes archelogy can be useful to desrcribe events..
there is a book called the "a record of excavation and discovery in Palestine" by Macalister, Robert Alexander Stewart. He was excavating in 19th century in the high places of Amorites in Gezer.

[shell hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-lonely-rain-sad-gif-7792030237214898863

[slender coral]

This is the stupidest argument I've seen today.

[turbid ivy]

Sure, let's vc

[slender coral]

Bible manuscripts?

[shell hemlock]

i think u know religion more than me, do jewish people rlly not use electronics ?

[formal pilot]

Yes, I'm a better person now, we grow everyday, i don't joke about terrorist attacks now.
I hope we resolve the issue because it's always good to have Russians on your side

[plain ruin]

??? LMAO, can't read English and wants to hear my voice
Nobu Shapiro, talk to me when you're able to use your eyes, maybe even get glasses

[shell hemlock]

wwhaattt

[slender coral]

@plain ruin@turbid ivycould you guys move on from this topic. I don't think this is the biggest religion issue 😭

[shell hemlock]

i saw a video where jews on an airplane covered up the tv in the plane

[prisma cipher]

Can't say Im better person too, but ok.

[plain ruin]

He's going to say "The Amorites did child sacrifice and this and that and there's archaeological evidence"
But still not show proof of how this is related to the residents of the City of Jericho at the time.

[shell hemlock]

are jews the amish people ? but the amish people are christians no ??

[slender coral]

I see

[plain ruin]

It's just so funny how pathetic he is, and how he's too proud to admit he's wrong, pride is one of the major sins of Christianity

[turbid ivy]

No, it's a book about the archealogical discovery of the Gezer.. it's a place in palestine,, where Amorites used to worship their Gods
There are many findings.. like

1. The burned cut off baby bones
2. Infants bones (with jars)
3. The high places worship of Cannaites Gods

So, from that, we have the extra biblical sources,, they were sacrificing their infants for years... they were practicing prostitutions,,and other immoral activities..
What do you think the just God would do to them?

1. Judge them
2. Let them keep sinning

Now, im not saying God only favored israel.. when israel committed sin against God..
God brought other nations like Assyria, babylon etc to judge them..

[plain ruin]

Not to mention, he's not even arguing about the topic anymore, he's just wants me to come to vc

[turbid ivy]

If you think you can actually prove me wrong.. let's vc about it

[turbid dome]

Like 95% don’t bother lmao

[slender coral]

Maybe they call it a sin, but it seems to me like their holy trait sometimes.

[turbid dome]

Different people

[cursive sphinx]

Prove that Islam is wrong and Deny it and I will become atheist today

[turbid dome]

Burden of proof, you have to prove it’s right

[turbid ivy]

aha.. what makes islam true?

[plain ruin]

Yes, now show the same with Jericho doing any of these things?
And you're saying that, they sinned by cutting and killing and burning babies
And got punished by God's people by killing people of all ages including babies? 😭

[plain ruin]

Pride comes before a fall 😂

[slender coral]

God was unable to judge those who sinned instead of making people genocide one another?

[turbid ivy]

Who were those people who got killed in Jerricho?

[cursive sphinx]

No, I want someone to prove that all the religion is wrong

[turbid ivy]

What do you think those people would deserve?

[plain ruin]

Did the cattle and sheep and donkeys kill babies too?

[turbid dome]

Ok well I think you’re an alien, prove me wrong

[turbid ivy]

Im asking you .. the people who got killed,, who were those people

[cursive sphinx]

My perspectives aren't like yours
You gonna say that I'm brain washed
I just want someone to prove that Islam is wrong

[plain ruin]

I'm asking you, did the donkeys and sheep and young people kill babies too?

[slender coral]

Nothing would make an entire group of people deserving to be massacred. What were the sins of the cattle and babies? Were every man and woman sinful?

[turbid ivy]

yeah.. so we will, but first tell us.. what makes islam true

[turbid ivy]

So you dont know which people got killed?

[cursive sphinx]

Is that related
Or just try to change the topic

[turbid dome]

Can you prove me wrong or do I need to provide proof

[plain ruin]

Every living being in the region except a prostitute, again, tell me yourself where the child sacrifice archaeological remains from Jericho's previous people are

[cursive sphinx]

I'm not a scholar
I'm a random Muslim believer
I just want someone to make it logical to me that what I'm doing is wrong

[shell hemlock]

have no idea, i went looking for it on instagram n can't find it anymore

[turbid ivy]

Because the entire group of people were engaged on such practices...

Now about the animals.. if God wanna kill animals, since he created them.. there is nothing wrong for God to destroy thier livestock as a means of punishement. Their babies were also killed for they wouldnt become a future threat and actually become like their parents.. God took their lives to save them

[winter echo]

Hey

[formal pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1259553761739673611.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=bsfdancing_sine

[turbid ivy]

Who were those people living in jerricho?

[turbid ivy]

I know.. but what are the things that you believe are supposed to be true?

[slender coral]

Burden of Proof
The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, not on the person who denies (or questions) the claim. The fallacy of the Burden of Proof occurs when someone who is making a claim, puts the burden of proof on another party to disprove what they are claiming.
Ellis: "I believe that fairies exists."
Marty: "How can you prove it?
Ellis: "I don't have to, if you can't prove that fairies don't exist."
https://www.logicalfallacies.org/burden-of-proof.html

[cursive sphinx]

Why you can't just answer the question instead of this
I didn't ask you to deny the concept of the religion
I just want you to prove that Islam is wrong

[winter echo]

@feral river your paymasters did this
https://x.com/ItsAyaHijazi/status/1711160097533997369?t=Yo_xKQWvZlVKncV5R32aug&s=19

Aya Hijazi آية حجازي (@ItsAyaHijazi)

The Israeli forces killed little Huda’s entire family in 2006, in front of her eyes, but no one cared, because they are Palestinians.

X · Oct 8, 2023, 11:22 PM

[plain ruin]

"Who were the people"
Where is the proof that they did what you claimed, in the Bible or in archaeology?

Why did cattle and young people get killed? Answer the question

Nobu endorses collective punishment, settled

[turbid ivy]

So you have no idea what you are talking about because you cant even name the group of people who were living in Jerricho?

[turbid dome]

I’m demonstrating burden of proof.

Obviously it’s ridiculous for me to claim you’re an alien without proof.

You’re the one who is claiming that there is a god and he said all these things and this whole belief system and all that. You have to prove it right.

[plain ruin]

Wasting time here, trying to claim that all people are the same rather than showing that the people of Jericho did anything wrong.

[cursive sphinx]

Maybe atheist scholars have more knowledge than me
I don't want to be brother Ahmad
I'm bakr

[shell hemlock]

atheist scholars ?

[turbid ivy]

Again, who were the people living in Jerricho?

[shell hemlock]

that sounds funni

[plain ruin]

How about you tell me who they were, and proof of their sins?

[formal pilot]

Alright, enough of religious talks, I'll be back when the topic is science, preferably biology/ evolution/ Evopsych

[slender coral]

We don't have scholars like yours but I'd bet we do have more knowledge.

[turbid ivy]

So you do acknowledge that you have no idea what you are talking about since you have never read those books?

[plain ruin]

Can't even explain why cattle were killed for human sins

[turbid ivy]

If God wills to destroy the livstock of sinners.. what makes it wrong?

[slender coral]

You are a biology student/graduate?

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-best-laugh-thats-funny-gif-8282901

[plain ruin]

LMAO, first of all, where does the Bible or anyone say they were Amorites?
Secondly, where does the Bible or anyone show that this Amorite city do anything of the sort?
Thirdly, what the fuck did young people or cattle do?

[cursive sphinx]

We ain't going to discuss all the proofs that already existed
I just want to understand
What makes you think that Islam isn't true

[plain ruin]

Do you acknowledge that none of the "sins" of the people of Jericho are in the books?

[turbid dome]

That there’s no evidence it is.

I think showing the evidence would be a start

[plain ruin]

Collective punishment endorser

[turbid ivy]

When did i say they were amorites?
Again, when God destroys the livestock of sinners.. how it's wrong?

[winter echo]

Are you adding fuel to the fire?
🤣

[gritty echo]

Still the same shit topics

[turbid dome]

It’s my favorite

[gritty echo]

There is a brain emoji on the channel name, but everyone is still talking about unscientific shits

[turbid dome]

I like bonfires, big and tall

[gritty echo]

Like politics and religions

[cursive sphinx]

Pick one thing that is undebatable about the Islam being wrong

[plain ruin]

You want to make the claim they are, why don't you acknowledge?

• Where does it say the people of Jericho were sinners in The Bible?
• Where does it say that the babies sinned?
• Okay, let's say destroying the livestock of sinners is not wrong, where's the proof that they were sinners to begin with? Use proof inside and outside The Bible

[slender coral]

You could always suggest something new, y'know. @formal pilot would like to talk about evolution or biology.

[winter echo]

Collateral damage ?

[shell hemlock]

ok i found a topic to headstart this

[turbid dome]

No, you have to show proof that it’s right. I can say that any book is correct but I have to prove it, not wait for it to be disproved

[shell hemlock]

the quran has never changed in over 1400 years

[slender coral]

This shows how close-minded you are.

[turbid ivy]

let's vc

[turbid dome]

That’s not evidence

[shell hemlock]

i was just sending a verse that is related to disbelievers like you are

[winter echo]

If you don't have conviction on islam, don't play that game

[crystal kayak]

@plain ruin let's VC let's vc

[shell hemlock]

there are things written in the quran, that haven't happened yet but will happen

[cursive sphinx]

Being here is big proof that I'm not
Cause if I'm a close minded I would curse you and move on
My question is simple You were Muslim, just say why you wake up and decided to become atheist or Agnostic or whatever it's

[turbid dome]

That describes plenty of things

Though many will not happen

[gritty echo]

If you try to talk about a different topic from most of these people, they probably just ignore you and still continue talk about religion wars or only wars

[slender coral]

You'd need to explain in more details why this is not evidence. They deeply believe the claim that Quran is the best Arabic literature ever, and that it's a sufficient premise to the conclusion that it came from the creator of the universe.

[shell hemlock]

how can you know

[cursive sphinx]

So you disproved it just because you can't believe it's correct?

[turbid dome]

Because they’re not based in reality

[winter echo]

By the way, this challenge is 14 hundred years old

[plain ruin]

What proof can you show in VC that you can't copy paste here?
Maybe you should read Genesis 18 again

[slender coral]

You could ping Aladdin and he will respond to you, if you wanna talk about evolution or biology.

[shell hemlock]

it is based on reality, let's say for example a verse that talks about israel, lemme find it

[turbid dome]

No, it’s yet to be proven

[plain ruin]

@slender coral not a single direct answer to either of us, just "no no you dont know"
or "let's vc"

[cursive sphinx]

What you talking about

[winter echo]

Not even in the slightest

Not even in the slightest

[cursive sphinx]

Explain more please

[gritty echo]

The problem is if I talk about evolution in this chat, probably someone will come here to say , I'm not coming from monkey, evolution is a big piece of garbage, Darwin was a liar, you're gonna hell because of that

[turbid dome]

Why do you not believe in other religions

[winter echo]

Allah rejected him 😭

[gritty echo]

You can't debate with short minded people

[plain ruin]

Aladdin and Devil and a bunch of people wouldn't do that

[turbid dome]

I wish you were joking

[shell hemlock]

you can read it and understand what it is referring to, that is happening today

[gritty echo]

Joking ?!! Oh this chat is like ww3 era

You will see

[shell hemlock]

Allah never reject anyone

[cursive sphinx]

I believe in the existence of only three religions
But I don't believe in their creeds
That's all

[winter echo]

@turbid dome ?

[slender coral]

So it's full circle back to religion, and religious people are the problem 😅
But anyway, you have Aladdin there, you can ignore idiots and discuss a related topic to evolution or biology that interests you.

[signal rose]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-leonardo-dicaprio-leo-dicaprio-wail-mourn-gif-7910101

[plain ruin]

Existence? Or truth?
Religions are "systems of faith"
You cannot deny that "Hinduism" exists

[turbid ivy]

Read Leviticus 19 and Deuteronomy 9... come to the vc and stop running

[winter echo]

I'm just mocking them 😂

[shell hemlock]

to disbelievers they will say that it doesn't insinuate anything related to modern times, this is what makes their heart blind

when it's written right in front of them but they can't see it

[turbid dome]

Yes, the Quran was a historical document, so some parts of it are based in reality, though it should be noted that this doesn’t have anything to do with Israel. Children of Israel refers to Jews.

[winter echo]

Is that your response?

[turbid dome]

Yes. An entire book isn’t based on reality because a vague statement correlates in the future

[shell hemlock]

so yes, it is based in reality basically, i do understand that it is not related to modern times israel, but who is inhabiting israel now ?

[winter echo]

LMAO 😂

[shell hemlock]

i think recently they found the oldest quran in the uk or smth, and every word is exactly the same

[turbid dome]

It’s a vague gesture, it doesn’t validify the entire book.

And yes, Israel is a Jewish state but this is so broad that it could mean anything lmao

[winter echo]

💯

[gritty echo]

War of science and beliefs, not changing still the same, sad

[slender coral]

The verse is so friggin vague, and doesn't put a time limit. Most alleged prophecies related to any religion or even the so called fortune tellers work in a similar manner.

[wind folio]

What about the theories? Like big bang planets move in orbits supernovas etc?

[turbid dome]

What?

[wind folio]

They are stated Clearly...in Quran?

[gritty echo]

Theory is a way of explaining something that happens, or facts

[turbid dome]

Where?

[shell hemlock]

i will continue now, so let's say surah al-mu minun 23:14 you can read it*, it describes the stages of human development in details (from being a wiggly little sperm to a fully developed fetus) and this was written 1400 years ago when there were no such things as advancement in technologies there were no yk xrays or ultrasound or smth to watch as the fetus grows, how would you explain this as a disbeliever ?

[cursive sphinx]

🤔
Okay so you agree that Hinduism is away from truth
And yes, maybe i missed the correct word, but as a Muslim Christianity and Judasim are existing
I can't say it's truth because if two are truthful in addition to Islam
There will be a huge confusion
Or to be clear if the three religions are true then there's no point from having these three religion instead of one
What I can say that these three religion belongs to the same source but now Islam is the last religion and the only truth one

[gritty echo]

Before the religions, people were already new there were other planets , or orbits or other things

Science was already developed before Christianity or Islam

Just look at the ancient civilizations like Sumers or Egyptians

[turbid dome]

“then We developed the drop into a clinging clot, then developed the clot into a lump ˹of flesh˺, then developed the lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, then We brought it into being as a new creation. So Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators.”

Far from being super scientific. Not hard to figure out how pregnancy works, it’s something you can observe.

[wind folio]

👁️👄👁️ flat earthers....

[shell hemlock]

this was 1400 years ago, it's not something you can open up the womb and watch

[turbid dome]

How does that describe the Big Bang theory, orbits, or supernovas

[winter echo]

@turbid dome ?

[plain ruin]

No actual "sins" are mentioned at all...
The only other thing mentioned is that they're referring to the Anakites, Anakites were only documented till Hebron though, Numbers 13 shows this
They went from Negev to Hebron
Here's a map where you can see where Hebron is and where Jericho is

Now explain where the proof for Jericho's sins are, and why were babies killed

[gritty echo]

I can say kuran is just telling Sumerian epics in a different way,

Or about the bible

[uncut tiger]

LRWEITP

[gritty echo]

Or about Torah

[turbid dome]

You can see that a stomach grows. And if a pregnant woman was dying, it wasn’t out of the question that she may be cut open to save the baby.

Not to mention that’s so vague that it hardly warrants being presented as accurate

[winter echo]

Lily, you're talking to the wall

[plain ruin]

I said truth because I think that's what you mean, other "religions" which is a term defined as a "system of faith" exist
The point is for you to use English better/learn what the words mean so that you can speak/debate better, to native speakers, saying other religions "don't exist" would make you look like someone not worth debating with

[winter echo]

🤦‍♂️

[turbid dome]

That still has nothing to do with any of the theories

[gritty echo]

Most Muslims are just saying, when scientists found something new , it was already written in the Quran, but the point is most of the scientists founding them is not Muslims

[plain ruin]

Only one runner here, using LLMs to give weak arguments without actually researching where the Anakites lived

[turbid ivy]

If I'm running, let's vc. Coward

[gritty echo]

They found it, published it, talked about it , wrote about their thesis , and most of the other things

[uncut tiger]

If it was already in the Quran then why didn't you discover it first 🤡

[turbid ivy]

Keyboard warrior 💀

[gritty echo]

But Muslims are just saying it was already in Quran

[shell hemlock]

you can see a stomach growing only from the outside, this surah describes the detail of how the fetus develops inside the womb, 1400 years ago humans did not even think about this stuff all we knew was having intercourse leads to impregnation inside a female human, the matter is that the quran has written something that was not taught about

[gritty echo]

It is what I am saying exactly

[slender coral]

It's an interesting phenomena. Do followers of other faiths do similar things?

[thorny steeple]

what is going onn

I am here

[gritty echo]

Of course they are doing

[plain ruin]

If you're not running, stop running to VC and show your actual physical proof for once in your life, you shameless pride-filled baby-killing endorser 🤷‍♂️

[shell hemlock]

i don't say that but muslims do contribute a lot to science

[gritty echo]

It is about religions and science not only for Islam

[slender coral]

Islam discussion going hard. They are talking about the alleged scientific miracle in the Quran.
And oh, on the side there's Shawn and Nobu fighting.

[gritty echo]

Really these days or before a thousands years

[plain ruin]

We can kill the babies of baby killers! - Nobu

[turbid ivy]

I'm not running.. I can't stay the entire day fighting in keyboard.. cause I'm not unemployed like you.. let's have a vc

[gritty echo]

Because before the thousand years Muslims do so many things for science but these days, they are just trying to damage it

[slender coral]

We wouldn't have to deal with baby killing problems if we kill all the babies.

[thorny steeple]

wow... damn... I can see people feeling too pride of their community ahahah

[shell hemlock]

so at the end of the day you agree that muslims contributed a lot to science

[turbid dome]

It’s not a very good description though. It’s quite vague.

And you’ve yet to reckon with the fact that women could be cut open then, so development could be physically observed.

All that description amounts to is that afterwards flesh developed, bones develop, and skin develops. Not that hard to imagine when you go outside in and reverse the order of people.

[shell hemlock]

that's all i wanted to hear

[plain ruin]

You are unemployed, I'm not employed but I'm less active than you are, because I do other work in real life and not sit on discord while working LMAO
What fight on keyboard? Copy paste and show proof of what the people of Jericho did? Is it not that easy?

[gritty echo]

Why did the Taliban destroy ancient statues in Afghanistan, why still most of Arabic countries are just rich because of their oil reserves, not their science or other things

[winter echo]

What can you say about the water circle?

[turbid dome]

What?

[plain ruin]

• Nobu

[turbid dome]

Do you mean water cycle?

[shell hemlock]

you don't have to be muslim to believe the quran is true

[winter echo]

The Quran talked about Water circle 14 hundred years ago.
What can you say about that?

[slender coral]

You could sit on Discord while working if you are a femboy autistic computer science major. I'm not speaking out of experience.

[turbid dome]

You do though. Because definitionally if you believe that you’re Muslim

[turbid dome]

Show the verse lmao

[plain ruin]

Are you talking about @compact scaffold
Nvm he does biochem

[turbid ivy]

Oo If you are employed.. what do you do here entire day.. come up in a vc.. don't be a coward like your prophet

[gritty echo]

Why most of the scientific research growing up in regions like Europe, north America or east Asia like china , Japan and Korea

[thorny steeple]

lol, which side is winning here?

[plain ruin]

What the fuck💀💀💀

[shell hemlock]

you mean if you are muslim you have to believe in the quran, not the other way around

[gritty echo]

Why not any Muslim countries

[plain ruin]

@slender coral get a load of this guy

[turbid dome]

It goes both ways. If you believe in the Quran then you believe everything a Muslim does, so you’re a Muslim

[gritty echo]

Just non Muslims doing something to improve science in this century

It is the problem about dogmas

[turbid ivy]

Wanna join in a vc or just wanna clown like a coward? 🤡

[shell hemlock]

there are many quranists that do not practice like a muslim do, they reject the hadiths and for muslims you have to believe in both

[slender coral]

Broooo, you genuinely think Shawn is Muslim?

[slender coral]

Chill dude

[turbid dome]

You’re using a very narrow definition of Muslim then

[gritty echo]

Wrong hadits written after the death of Muhammed like 200-150 years later

[turbid ivy]

The way he is trying to save it from my hand, makes sense.. but I'm gonna tear it apart

[thorny steeple]

damnnn how did I miss this lounge it is sooo fun

[turbid dome]

What theory is that lmao

[wind folio]

Nvm I'm no scholar gotta delete

[gritty echo]

How do Muslims do their beliefs except from hadits than

[shell hemlock]

nope, what i'm saying is true, there are people who* believe the quran but are not practicing muslims

[plain ruin]

Do you want to actually send proof or just talk nonsense like a coward? It takes a few seconds to do a couple google searches and send your proof, you shameless baby killing endorser

[stray shell]

Guys can you tell me what is the difference between liberals and democrats in easy terms

[slender coral]

Glad you are enjoying the show.

[gritty echo]

Why does khalifa Omar just remove hadits and he banned to write

[turbid ivy]

I will give you proof.. do you wanna have an actual discussion or do you wanna just clown like skinny coward?

[shell hemlock]

we follow hadiths that are verified and doesn't contradict what is written in the quran, so there is a correlation that we believe in both

[turbid dome]

Ok practicing is the key word lol

[turbid dome]

Democrats most often refers to the American party, whereas liberal is broad and has many meanings, but is an ideology

[plain ruin]

Not really, if I was Muslim, I'd use the fact that the Bible has this verse to justify the killings in the Quraan
You can't even admit that The Bible has worse killings of entire cities without proving the "sins" of each and every single one of these people.

[gritty echo]

Is hadits coming from Allah, is hadits written by prophet Muhammed to the papers, is hadits are published with Quran

Nope,

[shell hemlock]

they believe in the words and what is written in the quran but don't pray and fast etc yeah, that is what it is to be muslim

[slender coral]

No bro, he disagrees with how you criticize stuff and your motivation, nothing at all indicates that he is a Muslim. You are now acting like Muslims who argue with different people in bad faith.

[plain ruin]

"Will give"
So you have it then? Why are you running to vc? Share it
Make sure Jericho is mentioned clearly

[turbid ivy]

Do you wanna have an actual discussion, or do you wanna just waste my time?

[gritty echo]

So what is the point about believing hadits like believing kuran

[stray shell]

oh okay i got it, and liberals is left and conservatives are the right wing, is that true?

[turbid dome]

Still at that point culturally Muslim even if not religiously, but yeah I get what you’re saying

[gritty echo]

Which one is your book Quran or hadits book

[turbid ivy]

That's how he is cooked

[turbid dome]

Liberal is center right and conservative is far right imo but that’s just me. Some will say conservatives are right and liberals are center

[gritty echo]

Because Allah says only guidance is the Quran, in the Quran

[winter echo]

https://chatgpt.com/share/6904f098-c0c0-800c-9ba8-d0b65e170ff2
This will do

[plain ruin]

You're wasting my time, you have the proof, you send it and we can finish it, if you show proof and it works, I'll say "I'm wrong"
You're refusing to show proof
It'll take you a minute

[turbid ivy]

Do you wanna have an actual discussion?

[turbid dome]

In the context of most systems liberals are on the left flank and conservatives on the right flank

[gritty echo]

What is the point about creating new guidance about Islam

[plain ruin]

Do you wanna actually send any proof or just talk about how you will send proof without sending any?

[turbid ivy]

That's why I'm saying.. come to the vc.. you don't have to sitt 5 hours in a discord like a loser

[stray shell]

then what do people mean by leftists?

[plain ruin]

@slender coral 😭 What the hell's wrong with this guy

[turbid ivy]

I will give you the proof.. do you wanna have the discussion?

[stray shell]

okay that makes sense

[plain ruin]

Stop wasting my time, you're stalling for 20 mins now, show proof or stop pinging

[plain ruin]

No need of discussion, show proof, I'll admit I was wrong
Don't show, then you're wrong
Simple

[slender coral]

https://stopcitingai.com/

[turbid ivy]

do you wanna have a discussion or not?

[turbid dome]

That doesn’t show evaporation

[stray shell]

I hate chatgpt or any ai for that matter

[plain ruin]

Stretching out what can be fixed in a minute, to an hour, I'll say it again:
No need of discussion, show proof, I'll admit I was wrong
Don't show, then you're wrong
Simple

[turbid dome]

It just describes rain and the fact that clouds form

[turbid ivy]

So you don't wanna have a discussion?

[shell hemlock]

do you know what we say when we muslims take the shahada ? "i bear witness that there is no god but Allah and i bear witness that muhammad is the messenger of Allah" - what is written in the hadith is basically the sayings of prophet muhammad pbuh and bc of that we practice and follow according to guidance from how prophet muhammad pbuh lived

[plain ruin]

Okay, so you don't want to show proof, thanks

[shell hemlock]

it's hard to explain but i tried my best lol

[turbid dome]

I personally start it with being anti-capitalist in an egalitarian direction (like a socialist but not a feudalist)

[slender coral]

AI is a great technology, and LLMs are amazing. It's not the tech that's bad, but how people handle it.

[turbid ivy]

The evidence will be presented in a discussion.. do you wanna have the discussion?

[winter echo]

You can continue the debate with him.
I have no time to waste on this

[plain ruin]

The evidence can be presented in 2 minutes instead of 30 minutes of you talking like a fool
Stop wasting my time

Show proof, I'll admit I was wrong
Don't show, then you're wrong
Simple

[turbid dome]

“Him”

Bro it’s an AI

[gritty echo]

The point is you don't want to understand hadith books written after the death of Muhammed like 150 years later, and of course when Muhammed lives people learnt Islam from him, this sura is about that, he is my prophet and follows their actions like something like that

But after the death of Muhammed Quran was already done

[turbid ivy]

Okay let's have the discussion.. which vc?

[gritty echo]

It was finished ,

And Allah says Quran is only guidance

[plain ruin]

No need of discussion, show proof, I'll admit I was wrong
Don't show, then you're wrong
Simple
No discussion needed to solve something which you can prove with text
Stop stalling

[gritty echo]

Did you get what I am saying

[winter echo]

Him ofc

[stray shell]

oh

[slender coral]

LMFAO

[turbid ivy]

You better grow some b**lls

[stray shell]

all these terms will be the death of me as a non native

[turbid ivy]

Coward

[gritty echo]

Hey there is a book written after the death of Muhammed and finishing the Quran , the timeline is just like 150-200 years, we have to believe him because they are words of Muhammed

[plain ruin]

You better grow some humility you baby killing endorser who can't share proof

[turbid dome]

Yeah don’t worry most natives misuse them because most natives have no knowledge of political theory

[gritty echo]

Just imagine how the world 150 years before

[winter echo]

Because you don't want your lies to be debunked

[turbid ivy]

I have never seen a weak,coward ever

[turbid dome]

Why don’t you engage with the link

[turbid ivy]

Am I gonna eat you in a vc?

[stray shell]

sure

[plain ruin]

See how pathetic he is/can get @slender coral
Most of the muslims in this channel don't stall/deny this hard

[gritty echo]

Can the prophet say about this hadith books , yeah they are true believe him, NO because he died and why hadith books are dangerous it explains it

[plain ruin]

I've never seen a Christian successfuly prove anything about Jericho being worthy of destruction, ever

[turbid ivy]

I'm not that scary.. but this dude has started peeing

[shell hemlock]

just typed a whole paragraph and my laptop died

[gritty echo]

The Quran is just warning you about that , but you are just doing the opposite of what Allah says and you are saying we are true believers

[winter echo]

🤦‍♂️

[gritty echo]

First of all read your book carefully and understand that and after talk about these topics

[stray shell]

wait is your pfp a hijabi cat mashallah

[plain ruin]

You are scary; the fact that you cannot share proof and keep dying, makes me scared for the future of Christianity
Send proof, I'll keep pissing till then

[dapper laurel]

The world is moving towards atheism

[plain ruin]

Can't justify his beliefs, complains about Muslims who can't justify theirs

[dapper laurel]

Another thousand years and most people will be atheists

[plain ruin]

For a reason

[gritty echo]

wrong, world is going to wars and it is the reason why people are starting to take care of these topics like old days

[shell hemlock]

okay so i believe it’s logical to follow the hadith because this is based on the life of prophet muhammad pbuh and how he himself practiced islam, also he is the messenger and the messenger who received surahs for the quran

i also believe there are hadiths thst are completely untrue (like stoning women who committed adultery) that is why we don’t follow what contradicts the quran, i can say even some verified hadiths i don’t agree with

[shell hemlock]

lol yes

[rain depot]

[turbid ivy]

Ping when you will become a man

[gritty echo]

Okey the point is If I write something about your life after your death like 150 years later

Who's gonna trust my words

[dapper laurel]

It's disconnected from what I'm saying

[winter echo]

Does he even know how hadiths are recorded and compiled?

[gritty echo]

You? , your family?

[stray shell]

ts aint tuff twin

[gritty echo]

No

[plain ruin]

Ping when you can phrase that sentence in a correct manner and prove the things you say

[stray shell]

missed opportunity to call him timmy tuff knuckles

[plain ruin]

Ping me when you're less ignorant than the "ignorant muslim deniers" you always fight

[gritty echo]

Who is gonna say about these hadith books wrong or true after 150 years of the death of Muhammed , he can't say it is wrong or true, Allah stopped giving messages after the Quran,

[slender coral]

You can make chatgpt tell you whatever you wanna hear. It prioritizes user's comfort and above that leans heavily toward western political correctness.

[gritty echo]

Who is gonna check , is it true or lie

No one

So,

[cerulean pivot]

He's right tho

[slender coral]

I think you are wrong, they are as bad if not worse. While you were talking to Nobu, Martinii was talking to them. They are in denial.

See @plain ruin

[plain ruin]

He's a conspiracy theorist kinda guy, outside Islam

[shell hemlock]

that’s the point, the correlation between the quran and the hadith without contradiction is why we follow it, like why muslims pray 5 times a day if the quran tells you to pray but not how, quran tells you to give zakat but how do we practice without seeing how the prophet do it

[winter echo]

That's because you don't know what you're talking to him about 😭

[plain ruin]

He doesn't like digital IDs and western spying practices, then uses ChatGPT

[gritty echo]

Fact is people already know that before the Hadith books

Right,

[slender coral]

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh! Brother, conspiracy theories and Muslim cultures can't be seperated I swear, I grew up with them lol
They think everything they don't like is a conspiracy against their religion.

[cerulean pivot]

@slender coral watch and learn from professional

[plain ruin]

I haven't paid attention, I was too busy laughing😭

[shell hemlock]

ehhh we only know that we needed to pray and give zakat but like we didn’t know how to do that

[gritty echo]

You don't get the point still I am saying before the Hadith books people were already doing these things

It is not about hadits books

Hadits books are not Quran

[winter echo]

What's hadith?

[plain ruin]

They are seperate from the religion itself though and come moreso from emotional thinking rather than the religion itself
Not to mention that Christian far-right share the same conspiracy theories adapted to their beliefs/thinking

[gritty echo]

They already know how they're gonna pray , or giving zakat

Hadits are written after 150 years can you imagine how long these time

[shell hemlock]

i’m telling you, people weren’t doing that just by the quran they were also following prophet muhammad😭

[gritty echo]

No you are just protecting Hadith books are just like dogmas

[slender coral]

No actually, Quran promotes that type of thinking. It claimed in many instances that non-believers are actually believers in secret but deny it for their pride for example 😭

[gritty echo]

I already said that

[gritty echo]

.

Here

[shell hemlock]

they were written while* the prophet was alive😭

it didn’t become an actual book till then

[gritty echo]

And khalifa Omar giving command to burning them

[slender coral]

All of them?

[gritty echo]

Why

[fresh flower]

Wrap it up

[gritty echo]

Is khalifa Omar stupid

To not know how to make a Hadith book

[plain ruin]

Where's that said?
And I haven't seen Abdul question anyone's value as a male for not agreeing to his lack of proof

[gritty echo]

Why did he just command to burn these words than

Why are there tons of different versions of the last speech of the prophet Muhammed

[cursive sphinx]

Waste of time

Leave people deciding what they want

At the end
We all are sinners

[shell hemlock]

he thought it wasn’t needed to write about how they were practicing islam but prophet muhammad pbuh insisted so the hadith could help guide muslims to follow islam, pretty simple

[gritty echo]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[rain depot]

At the end it doesnt really matter

[gritty echo]

I can't debate with you

[shell hemlock]

i wasn’t debating

[gritty echo]

Because you are not getting answers from my questions

[shell hemlock]

was that a debate ?

[gritty echo]

You are just saying the same things

After and after

[gritty echo]

Or disggusion

I can't with you about Islam

[shell hemlock]

okay

[gritty echo]

Because you just don't question your religion

And trying to find answers

[shell hemlock]

???

[gritty echo]

You are just saying what your parents teached you

Nothing more

[shell hemlock]

my parents aren’t even muslims

[gritty echo]

It is hard to believe because you just not even ask hmmm it can be true or false

You just save them like dogmas

[cursive sphinx]

What matter is that some people are going to be regretful

[shell hemlock]

what😭

[gritty echo]

So there is no point to talk with you about that

[shell hemlock]

you didn’t even ask me what is true or false you just asked me why muslims follow the hadiths and i gave you my answer

[gritty echo]

Nah,

However

[rain depot]

And nothing can fix it

[shell hemlock]

just a whole lot of hootin and hollerin

[cursive sphinx]

🙏

[gritty echo]

The same feeling ,talking about Islam with a muslim

[shell hemlock]

???

[stray shell]

why don't you speak to scholars in real life

[gritty echo]

I'm doing it

Not only mosques

[cursive sphinx]

I'm lacking ahh moment

[gritty echo]

Churches too

[slender coral]

I was actually wrong, nothing in the Quran seems to explicitly say that tbh. But you'd have a verse like this:

Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it]. [2:146]
And a Hadith like that:
https://linguisticmiracle.blogspot.com/2010/04/al-walid-and-what-can-i-possibly-say.html
These stuff are often cited of course in bad faith by them during arguments and debates.

[stray shell]

i couldn't tell

my bad

[plain ruin]

Both are true for Nobu, unironically

[slender coral]

They get angry, especially if the person they talk to is an apostate from Islam.

[hidden shore]

🤣 A gangster became a president

[plain ruin]

Hmmm the hadith is interesting, that's too much of a "single instance" to actually apply to all people to begin with

[hidden shore]

but she always smiles

[plain ruin]

Basically they're using this anecdotal evidence? 😭

[shell hemlock]

what’s a muslim scholar doing in a church

islamic scholar i mean

[gritty echo]

Really , I was pointed,I'm talking about Christianity with Christian scholars too

Not with only Imams

[shell hemlock]

interesting

[slender coral]

It doesn't even reach the level of an anecdotal evidence, how can you know for sure that they didn't put those words in the man's mouth? Victors write history, and they certainly write religious myths and legends as well.
Growing up, I always questioned this claim, but Muslims believe it deeply. I think there are more instances like this in both Quran and Sunnah, with texts that don't explicitly make the claim that non-believers actually know Islam is true, but they imply it.

[cursive sphinx]

You probably went to the Imam in your neighborhood mosque
You decided your path, being a Muslim or not isn't affecting anyone except you
People advice, sometimes they scolding
But at the end you can pretend to be Muslim while you are not
And also to declare that you are an atheist
No one will judge you, and if they do probably they only want to know why 🙏

[fresh flower]

Salam walakum

Why so many atheists here

[shell hemlock]

hello demoted muslim ally

[plain ruin]

True
At the end of the day, even if we believe it's true, the fact that its anecdotal is pretty much everything
Same thing with the conquest of Canaan, no way to know if all of those people are who they're claimed to be

[fresh flower]

I will protect any atheist here as long as they pay me jizya in the form of nitro

[shell hemlock]

this is n*bu perfectly described in the quran

[stray shell]

that's unfortunate. try to talk to an alim than imams directly. also depends on your tone and how you discuss your queries with the person

[fresh flower]

He'd say this is fake

[plain ruin]

Wouldn't it be the opposite?😭

[slender coral]

It doesn't. Muslim societies are very dogamtic, that's the problem.

And they are dogamtic mainly because of Islam.

[plain ruin]

Or are you saying that Nobu isn't Christian?
I'm 99% sure he is actually Christian

[fresh flower]

There can't be good things in the Quran because his ex was a Muslim and she was a bad person

[shell hemlock]

he is very bitter because he can’t follow his own religion he have to find the flaws in the other

[stray shell]

thats generalization

[plain ruin]

B-b-b-but 😖

[fresh flower]

I'm 100% sure he's Hindu

I'd bet money on it

[shell hemlock]

i solely believe his ex wasn’t an actual muslim (just from dating him alone) and maybe she’s just an atheistic hijabi which explains why he fetishizes hijabis

[fresh flower]

You're wrong. His ex doesn't exist💀

Figment of his imagination

[stray shell]

what are you saying

atheist hijabi?

[plain ruin]

I may have proof

[fresh flower]

You can't tell me bro had a gf while he spends 10 hours in vc, most neglected gf in the world

[high rapids]

I´m white

[plain ruin]

Of him actually being raised Christian

[fresh flower]

SO MANY LIARS TODAY

[shell hemlock]

theory 3: his ex got arrange married with another muslim man and he’s still holding prejudice

[high rapids]

thats the truth lol

[shell hemlock]

yeah basically a hijabi that doesn’t believe in god

[fresh flower]

That's lowkey me

[hidden shore]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQKdEaJjQJ3/?igsh=Z3kwMmtub2Q3Z2Q1

resisttimes

Video of India’s Gorehabba festival, celebrated a day after Diwali, where Hindus throw cow poop on one another.

@resisttimes

Likes

27395

Instagram

[shell hemlock]

saw the cutest thing today this muslim woman teaching her daughter to say bismillah before eating

[slender coral]

It's the truth. I lived in two Muslim countries, still live in one and I know what I'm saying. The only countries in the world that punish apostasy with death are Muslim countries, and most Muslim countries have harsh punishments for apostasy, blasphemy, and they limit freedom of speech heavily.
Add to this, this statistic.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

[hidden shore]

Let’s enjoy cow poop bath

😂

[high rapids]

please stay there

[slender coral]

No

[high rapids]

please

next election

[slender coral]

You could hit your head against a wall.

[plain ruin]

💀💀💀💀💀

[high rapids]

Can you show me how to do that?

[slender coral]

No

[high rapids]

why not

[slender coral]

I'll go to your country

Take your job and girl from you

[high rapids]

please

[slender coral]

Muhahahaha

[high rapids]

Like Mohammed, the 6-year-old child?

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/i-m-villain-gif-8105801559398118233

[manic juniper]

How can you take two things he doesn't have

[stray shell]

doesn't make sense, hijab is something sacred and a form of worship to allahﷻ , if not for religious reasons, isn't that just a head covering/scarf?

[slender coral]

Damn your girl is 6-years-old

[high rapids]

Na

[plain ruin]

Just like Nobu, assuming you're muslim😭

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-gif-2734175389934997010

[plain ruin]

Despite seeing countless arguments of yours😭😭😭

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/fahads-fahadz-serious-report-gif-15931896867289264115

[plain ruin]

These supremacists I swear

[slender coral]

Western Nobu

[plain ruin]

Unironically more Christian than he is

[slender coral]

I'll go legally, worry.

[stray shell]

oh well

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-camp-gulag-ussr-sfsr-gif-11375769938799485374

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/behave-yourself-by-allah-taste-of-my-shoe-angry-mad-gif-17675875

[plain ruin]

From Mustache guy to Stalin?

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-roosevelt-yalta-conference-soviet-union-united-states-gif-1763661690583192843

[hidden shore]

https://youtu.be/aqaEltoxu5k?si=uY8ZCEAPL3zpDcMr

🐮 is god

[high rapids]

its time to go vegan

[wraith vine]

Hi everyone

[plain ruin]

There's not even a single hindu that speaks here, if any

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-raining-winter-rainy-day-rainy-gif-17307471363181880117

[fresh flower]

Love your country
Don't help build it

Oh God coping guy is here

[shell hemlock]

yep that’s basically my point, there are girls that will wear hijab etc but they don’t believe in god they wear it solely bc they don’t want to be judged

[plain ruin]

The difference being that one side complains all day and uses their parents money to sustain their screen addiction

[slate nymph]

guys now i am join this server for improving my english so anyone can guide me please?if yes so give me a friend request if you are comfartable

[frank furnace]

I, as a guy, wear hijab on a day to day basis? Why does Islam forbid me?

[high rapids]

It seems like you're speaking from experience.

[slender coral]

Some Muslim and ex-Muslim women are forced to wear it so they don't get beaten or judged over it.

[fresh flower]

Salam walakum brother, you join any VC you talk people, best way learn English 🙏🏻

[uncut tiger]

Salam Aleykum yallah habibi White boyfriend

[fresh flower]

Kitten wyd here it's not safe

[slender coral]

Here's a brown guy stealing your potential bf @high rapids

[plain ruin]

Why is the example talking?

[hidden shore]

it depends which country tho or your family environment, in many countries like Tunisia , turkey , many people don’t wear it

[high rapids]

?

[slender coral]

I understand. But many are bad.

[hidden shore]

They are not getting judged by society

[uncut tiger]

is whitewater a hijabi man

[fresh flower]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

I am allowed to have two boyfriends right

@high rapids sup

[fresh flower]

Four

[high rapids]

leave me alone

[plain ruin]

Did you not understand?

[slender coral]

May Allah bless your marriage brothers

[uncut tiger]

Silence yourself dishwasher

[high rapids]

hahahahaha

[uncut tiger]

are you a dude

[high rapids]

You're all so amusing.

[slender coral]

Probably, but I'd recommend him getting the household chores.

While the other two work

[high rapids]

@plain ruin Don't forget to take your medicine 😄

https://tenor.com/view/wow-trippy-freaking-out-ausflippen-ritalin-gif-15115667

[plain ruin]

Don't forget that I have seen your usage of a Nazi Book Burning session 😁

[high rapids]

it wasnt lol

Do you imagine things when you don't take your medicine?

[plain ruin]

Are you allergic to reality?

[high rapids]

Im not

[high rapids]

I took the first thing that came up on Google.

[plain ruin]

LMAO okay
You don't need to hide your love for the mustache man, you used to be more open about him

[high rapids]

?

[plain ruin]

Not to mention, everyone knows what instance of book burning was most famous

[high rapids]

Okay, do you need a tissue?

[plain ruin]

You're so random when you get called out

[high rapids]

@plain ruin I don't understand why you're so angry.

[plain ruin]

Where did you perceive anger from💀 You're hilariously bad at ragebaiting

[high rapids]

ok

[coral belfry]

what

anyway

[high rapids]

It can't have been that bad if suddenly five people come at me and say things that aren't true.

[coral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-muted-jeremy-clarkson-gif-24026601

[plain ruin]

What five people?

Have a good night, maybe stop imagining things

[high rapids]

I'm done here. I think it's better this way. I don't want to make you feel like you're wrong.

[high rapids]

Good night sleep well

and dream about me

[shell hemlock]

what happened why are people getting muted

[high rapids]

nobody got muted

I don't understand why there is always so much arguing here.

[crystal kayak]

I got muted yesterday for no reason

[high rapids]

i saw it

[shell hemlock]

diaz and abdul is muted

[shell hemlock]

how was the experience ?

[crystal kayak]

Abdul got muted again😂😂what did he do

[shell hemlock]

i don’t understand this question

[shell hemlock]

i don’t know i just came back

[high rapids]

i dont like diaz

[shell hemlock]

why

[high rapids]

hahaha

[high rapids]

idk

[crystal kayak]

If people didn't argue life would be boring

[high rapids]

Can you offer me a job?

Isfrun is always toxic

[crystal kayak]

It is just like those court shows you watch on tv the evidence against you is brought and you simply try and defend/explain yourself

[high rapids]

that´s true

[shell hemlock]

hahaha, i got muted couple times too, i also got banned once i guess you can say it was a joke

[crystal kayak]

Why didn't you ping me

[plain ruin]

about?

[crystal kayak]

Talking about the moustache man

[high rapids]

Why aren't you sleeping?

[plain ruin]

Nothing new to talk about him, isn't it?

[plain ruin]

My best time to do my work is now

[high rapids]

What time is it where you are right now?

[crystal kayak]

I just like being there when he is the topic

[high rapids]

[crystal kayak]

Why did you get banned🤣🤣

[plain ruin]

You're already aware, I'm sure you can figure it out

[high rapids]

I thought the “good night” was directed at me because it's evening in Austria.

[plain ruin]

"Have a good night"
Can be used earlier in the day

Mostly in the evening/late evening when you may be parting and may not see each other at night

[slender coral]

Who were you referring to by "their book"?

[slender coral]

Diaz deserves it he is a damn troll

[high rapids]

No one, I just translated word for word from German into English.

[cerulean pivot]

#justice_for_diaz

[hybrid herald]

Tf diaz is muted

[hybrid herald]

Why did they mute him

[cerulean pivot]

Idk man

[crystal kayak]

Go do your work bro sorry for pinging you

[hybrid herald]

I will nuke the server

[cerulean pivot]

Evil mods fr

[crystal kayak]

Any Russians here

[shell hemlock]

i made a joke abt the owner

[hybrid herald]

Ts isn't tuff 😔

[torpid dirge]

Hey what's up

[crystal kayak]

Ohh, what is the owners username

[crystal kayak]

Are you Russian

[torpid dirge]

Do i look like ?

[crystal kayak]

Well if that is you in the pf you look Indian

[torpid dirge]

Yeah becoz I'm

[crystal kayak]

Ohh nice to meet you then

Sorry I forgot we met

[torpid dirge]

Mee too how's everything going on ?

[crystal kayak]

Great,how about you

[torpid dirge]

Yeha kind of

[crystal kayak]

Have you talked to a psychologist yet

[torpid dirge]

Normal what ?

[torpid dirge]

It's been worst

[prime mirage]

It’s never normal

[crystal kayak]

How has it been worse if you mind sharing

[torpid dirge]

It's just like my mind repeatedly victimize myself for not doing anything I'm fcking loser

[plain ruin]

Doing what?

[torpid dirge]

Ntg existential crisis

[plain ruin]

Hmmm okay, wish you well

[torpid dirge]

Any tips would you like to give?

[plain ruin]

I have no idea what the issue is centered around, so can't really say much

[crystal kayak]

This kind of thinking won't get you out of your situation,get out of your own head,go to the gym,talk with friends and family, learn a new skill,if you continue victimizing yourself nothing will change

[plain ruin]

If it's situations or people or yourself; no idea

[torpid dirge]

Overall we can say it's depression

[hybrid herald]

Maybe

[torpid dirge]

I have my own insecurity I can't go gym because of my body

[plain ruin]

Did something/series of events happen that have led you to believe that it's depression?

[torpid dirge]

Everyday every moment man i can't describe it

[plain ruin]

For how long/when did it start?

[plain ruin]

Do you have a source of income at the very least?

[torpid dirge]

Depends on parents so far but im trying to

[plain ruin]

Do you have sleep/appetite issues?

I think for the most part, unless you give actual details, I can't really "give you advice" other than for common issues you may be facing

[torpid dirge]

Can't say about appetite but Yes I have been sleeping like 12 hours and more

[crystal kayak]

Nobody is going to care, everyone will be doing there own thing plus there is home workouts you can do that. fix what you can fix and the rest leave it to Allah.

[plain ruin]

Do you have any commitments like work or classes? How old are you?

[torpid dirge]

23, doing medical nursing in college

[tawny umbra]

Hi

[torpid dirge]

Hey

[tawny umbra]

How's going

[torpid dirge]

Ntg wby ?

[tawny umbra]

Am good

[tawny umbra]

What does it mean ntg

[torpid dirge]

Nothing*

[plain ruin]

Is the extra sleep literally daily? Even when having classes? Or on the weekends more? Or moreso during class days?

[tawny umbra]

Aa okay

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-happy-dance-happy-birthday-happy-birthday-to-you-gif-14641296808833921829

[high rapids]

my dance moves

[torpid dirge]

I'm not doing anything one of them and that's The centred issue i want work get busy myself

[plain ruin]

Since you said you can't talk about appetite and have body insecurities, did you have a huge change in weight since the "depression" started?

[summer sphinx]

Dms bro

[plain ruin]

I'm pulling a @glossy ether on you rn

[torpid dirge]

I mean can't as idk if it's really

[summer sphinx]

Reply to them dms

[plain ruin]

You can tell the change in weight and over how long?
For example 10kg gained over a period of a year?

[crystal kayak]

Why are you always dancing

[torpid dirge]

I remember my weight has been gained 7kg since last yr now I'm at 45

[plain ruin]

Huh... is that good for your height?

i.e. is 45kg considered healthy for your height

[torpid dirge]

Yeah I'm 5'6 idk specifically

[fresh flower]

That's too low

[plain ruin]

Yeah you definitely need to be eating more, mid 50s at the very least

[high rapids]

I've heard that if something bothers you, you should dance it out.

[plain ruin]

What about focus/attention? Issues with them started recently?

[torpid dirge]

Memorization mostly

[high rapids]

@plain ruin I want to apologize to you for what I said earlier.

[torpid dirge]

I forgets things

[plain ruin]

But has it developed recently? Or what?

[plain ruin]

Sure, no problem

[crystal kayak]

Wait till you become an adult🤣🤣you can't just dance it out

[torpid dirge]

Been for yrs since I got enter in college

[plain ruin]

Last few questions:

• How many glasses of water do you drink daily?
• How much direct sunlight do you get? (Through windows doesn't count)

• Did you have struggles studying for 2+ hours during school?

[high rapids]

You can

[summer sphinx]

Dms bro

[plain ruin]

I'm not sending you feet pics dawg

[summer sphinx]

Man..

[plain ruin]

😿

[summer sphinx]

Reply to them dms

[torpid dirge]

3, 4 maybe ?
Not quite much ngl

[plain ruin]

I did

[high rapids]

I'm really sorry, even if it doesn't come across that way right now, that really wasn't nice or correct of me.

[plain ruin]

• That would be ~ 1-1.2L per day assuming a 330ml glass, you're still under the 1575ml requirement for your weight (35ml per kg)

• Not much, how much time do you spend?

[thorny steeple]

Fk

[torpid dirge]

DM

[torpid dirge]

Spent for what ?

[plain ruin]

Sorry, how much time do you spend* in direct sunlight?

[crystal kayak]

You can't, what you can do is just go into nature and walk around see the birds and other animals it is really peaceful

[torpid dirge]

Few times Early morning and afternoon but not much

[plain ruin]

Less than like an hour a day?

[torpid dirge]

Yeahh kind of

[plain ruin]

Hmmm okay then you should start there, right?
Low Vitamin D/minerals can cause depression like symptoms to begin with

[high rapids]

DANCE IT OUT

[plain ruin]

If you had trouble focusing during school then you may wanna see if its ADHD but I don't think you'd sleep that much if you had ADHD

If you know what "events" caused this feeling/sadness then you should work on those too. Journaling and moving on from it by trying to get to class and enjoy it more often.

[high rapids]

May I ask how many hours you sleep?

[plain ruin]

My realest advice to you would be to try to get more direct sunlight, and maybe drink a glass of milk a day, to make sure that your low fat%/vitamins/minerals aren't contributing

[grim folio]

6 is too much

[plain ruin]

7-9

[grim folio]

Lazy

[high rapids]

you sleep more then i do

[plain ruin]

At the end of the day, you gotta put yourself out there, it's like an avalanche, your good progress starts with a little snow rolling,
Snow rolls downhill all the time, but only after a constant build up of snow, it becomes an avalanche
The same way, you will struggle trying to do the same improvements over and over again, until one time you start getting consistent, only then will you build enough momentum to actually get through

[torpid dirge]

I just want to get a starting point get a routine and do work for avoidance

[torpid dirge]

People thinks I'm crazy or psycho but I'm too sensitive and kind

[plain ruin]

• Milk + Sunlight, as a med student you should be knowing that lack of these cause depression like symptoms and deficiencies

• Use alarms to set times to go to bed instead of just to wake up

• Use alarms to remind you to do things like get sunlight or eat or exercise

• Do some puzzles/memory games/cognitive games

• Do some flashcards for your medical courses

• Try to appear for at least a part of the classes, even one class a day if you have to, if you can't attend all

• "Avoiding" it isn't going to help, a part of having a problem, is acknowledging that you have one. Many addicts don't quit their vice because they say "No I don't have a drinking/smoking/gambling/gaming/etc. problem" They don't accept that they have a problem, so they keep doing the bad things, if there are any. You have to accept the past, it's gone, and find something in the present to be happy about.

• Finally, you're in a med school. There's a point where if, nothing else works, you can and should talk to a psychiatrist. They may or may not prescribe you something. But, remember, whatever you tell them, since you're an adult, is confidential. Telling them more information about the cause of your issue, your lifestyle, etc. will help them help you.

[high crater]

I am Barack Obama

[torpid dirge]

Thnks man appreciate your help a lot , but I'm trying to be afford professional help ASAP

[high crater]

Are you JD Vance

[torpid dirge]

No I'm Muslim not Jewish

[high crater]

JD habibi?

[plain ruin]

I have to, if I try to wake up sooner than my body wants me to, I'm screwed for the rest of the day.
I used to be able to sleep for less, now it's nigh impossible.

[turbid dome]

Jd Vance isn’t Jewish lol

[torpid dirge]

Yk he is indirectly

[turbid dome]

No he’s catholic

[plain ruin]

Can't you check with the med school itself?
Or is it one of those medschools that aren't connected to a hospital?

[torpid dirge]

Check what ? Psychologists?

[plain ruin]

Yeah?

Even there, they'd have to keep your privacy

[torpid dirge]

Idk man

[summer sphinx]

Where the fucking huzz at broo 😭

[plain ruin]

💀

[summer sphinx]

Indians Indians Indians

[plain ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-happy-mirror-pooh-gif-14849911

[torpid dirge]

Maybe I have to check out

[plain ruin]

Yup
Just don't get over-reliant if they do prescribe anything
If something is too good or not working, anything experience, you have to be honest with them, if you want to get better

That is, if they do prescribe something, repeating that again

[torpid dirge]

Before that can I get a routine? Like get busy myself? For studies?

[thorny steeple]

I have a question guys

[torpid dirge]

Ask

[thorny steeple]

If you have to choose between
Irani woman or pakistani woman
Whom will you choose ?

[manic juniper]

Aladdin would choose the first almost every single time

[torpid dirge]

Sorry this is not my type of questions I'm kind of mysogynist you can ask it to others

[plain ruin]

It depends on your situation imo
Some people require medication for a boost/talking to someone to be able to fix their issues
The brain is dumb, you have to train the brain to do what you need it to.
And sometimes, that means needing a medication that can help.

If you get medicated, it'll help you reinforce the good habits etc. in your brain, then they'll test taking you off of meds if you're doing good.

[turbid dome]

If I have to choose between the two I’ll take “or”

[thorny steeple]

Oh

[high rapids]

DO YOU HAVE A JOB FOR ME? HAHA

[thorny steeple]

Lmfao

[turbid dome]

You’re advertising your choice

[manic juniper]

They don't hire if you can't speak Suomi

[turbid dome]

Do you hire English speakers

[plain ruin]

Damn it Linus

[thorny steeple]

Nope
Asking people opinion

[high rapids]

They are not qualified enough.

[manic juniper]

No because elders can't understand well

[turbid dome]

I’m overqualified

[high rapids]

haha

[turbid dome]

You’re not that old

[summer sphinx]

@thorny steeple miss u bro

[high rapids]

She has a world view from 1992.

[turbid dome]

More like 199.2 million years ago, which is based.

[high rapids]

Lets invade finland

[turbid dome]

Are you Russian

[high rapids]

no

[turbid dome]

Georgian?

[high rapids]

no

[turbid dome]

Swedish?

[high rapids]

no xd

[turbid dome]

Welp

[high rapids]

Austrian

[turbid dome]

Oh ok

[high rapids]

Is the war in Gaza over yet?

[prime mirage]

It’s not unfortunately

[turbid dome]

No, there’s a ceasefire but Israel is still slaughtering. They bombed today.

[high rapids]

Good to know thanks

[fresh flower]

Weak ragebait

[high rapids]

That wasn't rage bait. I was genuinely interested in whether the war was already over.

[fresh flower]

I know what you meant you can't fool me

[torpid dirge]

@west urchin don't go

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-happy-dance-happy-birthday-happy-birthday-to-you-gif-14641296808833921829

Dance it out

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-dance-it-out-cristina-yang-sandra-oh-thats-how-we-finish-gif-17333612

[thorny steeple]

You look like Charles Leclerc

[covert ore]

We have here guys they think themselves geniuses

[high rapids]

?

@astral field Why did you delete your messages?

[uncut tiger]

@fresh flower Step bro help im stuck in the washer

[high crater]

I am a liberal and it’s okay

[high rapids]

because it was racism

enjoy the report

@astral field ?

[astral field]

What do you want from me

[high rapids]

Why did you delete your messages?

[astral field]

Because the freedom of speech is not respected around here

[high rapids]

aha

[astral field]

That's true

If I point out that majority of this server belongs to the Arabs and Indians the I will automatically become a racist

But that's not racism but statistics

[high rapids]

You deleted your messages yourself, no one else did it. You took back what you said and now you're saying “there's no freedom of speech here.”

[cerulean pivot]

Victim card

[high rapids]

Can you show me the statistics?

[astral field]

Because I'm afraid. That's how the totalitarian regimes works. I'm even afraid of posting messages

[high rapids]

If you're so afraid of sending messages, why do you do it?

[astral field]

Voice chat is enough source of statistics

[cerulean pivot]

Bro it's discord
Imaginary world in the internet
If they banned you , fuck it who cares

Just say what you wanna say

[high rapids]

So, I need statistics that I can read, otherwise it's just an assumption.

[astral field]

I don't want to be excluded from this environment. I'm not gonna do that. I will stay under the iron curtain of the regime forever

[high rapids]

brain washed

[cerulean pivot]

A slave of freedom

Suit up yourself with Indians and arabs then
Enjoy the moment and don't play the victim

[astral field]

It's obvious observation. Just join the random channel

[high rapids]

You should look for a support group @cerulean pivot can help you.

[cerulean pivot]

I'm not a mod

I can't do shit

[high rapids]

Okay, I'll join all the voice channels now and take a look.

[astral field]

If playing a victim means fighting for freedom of speech then yes I'm playing a victim

[cerulean pivot]

Congratulations
Are you Jewish by any chance?

[astral field]

If you don't have anything better to do then let's go

[high rapids]

ok

you like them?#

[high crater]

ITS THE JEEWSSSSSSSS 6 million my AHHHHHHHH

[high rapids]

You both need help

[cerulean pivot]

He typed it three times and you asking him

[high rapids]

yes

[cerulean pivot]

For what

Did I upset you in any way

[high rapids]

no

[high rapids]

I think you two are well suited and can support each other.

[coral belfry]

.

[high rapids]

I'm flying to Sydney now to visit you. @cerulean pivot

[high rapids]

I'll visit you next

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/milanesas-milanesius-milanga-milanesa-gif-11343489

[high rapids]

SCHNITZEL

I´m so hungry tbh

[turbid dome]

Wiener Schnitzel

It better be lamb

[high rapids]

Where are you from?

[turbid dome]

Arkansas, USA

[high rapids]

Mostly pork, but a genuine one is made from veal.

[turbid dome]

Yeah, that’s what I meant. We don’t have veal on very many menus here so I confuse it with lamb

[high rapids]

I´m hungry 😭

[turbid dome]

I just ate

[high rapids]

😭

[spark frigate]

wsp guys i'm new

[fresh flower]

Leave bro this channel is not safe these guys are insane

[hybrid herald]

Especially someone called Minecraft i am thankful he's asleep rn

[high rapids]

I love you

[high rapids]

HAHAHAHAH

[high rapids]

It´s 6 am rn

[high rapids]

@feral river you have a fan

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-bitch-gotchabitch-gif-22679594

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-me-up-when-its-all-over-avicii-gif-11680934

[golden jetty]

You live in munchen?

[high rapids]

Graz

[golden jetty]

Same thing

[golden jetty]

Bavaria austria same thing

[high rapids]

small city

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/oktoberfest-dancing-celebrate-gif-4728674

[golden jetty]

Foodie austrians

[high rapids]

yes haha

[golden jetty]

Do you ever visit slovenia

[high rapids]

yes

[golden jetty]

Is it a W or nah

[hybrid herald]

Is ts dm

[high rapids]

I've been there a few times.

[high rapids]

Its okay

[golden jetty]

L slovenia

[last geyser]

Hi

[high rapids]

?

[golden jetty]

Lacking schnitzel frfr

[high rapids]

I'll probably fly to Vietnam at the end of December.

[golden jetty]

Why

[high rapids]

I need a new Mac Book Air.

[golden jetty]

You need to fly to india for that

Apple products are made there now

[high rapids]

I'll think about it, but I would also go on vacation to Vietnam.

[golden jetty]

At the same exact time im going to tokyo

Which part of vietnam are you visiting?

[high rapids]

tokyo is overrated

[golden jetty]

How come

[high rapids]

Hanoi and Ho-Chi-Minh-City#

[high rapids]

So many people fly there, and even more than once. I don't want to go where everyone else wants to go.

[golden jetty]

There must be a reason everyone wants to go there then

Wouldnt you wanna find out?