#🧠|serious-chat
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If the only data the jury has, is the illegally and unverified chatlog, it'll be a problem for sure, though
So they just give malicious actors the opportunity to just steal anyone's data at Will, if they have the capacity?
Who are you calling malicious actors in this case? The data brokers?
But you know that's a double edged sword right?
Or the sources of the data brokers?
Hackers, script kiddies, and the data brokers.
The beef would be between these individuals and the defendants, and the companies affected by the hacks
In the case between the govt vs def, it wouldn't matter so much
And plenty of times, revenge killings have been forgiven and even allowed
That's outside security but is illustrates the point, verified evidence can be seen as something to be ignored even though illegal ly obtained
The same methods you use to acquire someones data can be used against you
It depends. Heavily.
Including calling 3rd party forensics experts to analyse the evidence
Anyway, what did you think about US claims of China's IP thefts?
Claims?
IP thefts? What's this now?
Not like there were many IPV4 addresses left anyway though
Intellectual property
Oooo
China and Japan have both been heavily known to steal IP
There's no doubt to it
Bro wym claims it couldn't be any more obvious 💀
Can they be substantiated?
Fairly sure they can
Yes, look at an image of US tech and its Chinese counterpart
I know the claims against Japan have been documented, because they didn't even bother removing US and company branding in many cases
With regards to China? They put some effort into hiding
What are you specifically talking about?
I'm curious too, are you talking about hardware or software or both?
C'mon you shouldn't say that, they might be doing some covert ops
If they prove you're guilty for a serious crime like murder or r***, I personally don't care about illegal obtaining of data, as long as it can be verified
Almost anything that requires RnD
Your government doesn't agree with you
I don't think IP theft is bad btw
The software thing is quite old, they would've had time to explore and fix things and hide them, now it doesn't even matter
They're doing things more on the hardware side these days, given how the US is banning sales of high end computer hardware and China developing its own hardware as well
That's more of an interesting IP topic, they could be stealing from NVIDIA and AMD in this regard
But the Chinese do it, more than anyone else
@latent steppe hope you can fix this bro🙏
May Allah guide the Chinese into creating a powerful cheap GPU amen
Last I heard, they couldn't beat a 1050Ti bro
Maybe a little over a year ago
Give it 5 years maximum
They'll have 7090
I want something tangible not speculated conjecture
LTX 7090
Olly why are you up
I'm trying to stay up on purpose to reset my sleep cycle
Fuck are you doing
Look into their military for MANY examples, HJ-12 is a Javelin copy, J-20 is a F-22 copy, J-35 is a F-35 copy, CH-4 is a MQ-9 Reaper copy, Z-20 is a UH-60 copy, "Star Shadow" is a X-47 copy
Shouldn't be covered up due to those concerns, should be deferred, at most
I'm sick bro I sneezed and my nose started bleeding I ain't going to work tomorrow 💔
I heard something very interesting.
Essential it's rumor going around that they are two types of companies in the US.
The one's that have been hacked by China, and the ones that doesn't know they've been hacked by China
This reminds me, I gotta restock on couch syrup
I got a sore throat myself 😔
Not just those, for sure.
The ones that haven't been hacked would be a few giants, a few.
But the two you've mentioned, they'd be the more common ones, given the fact that a load of small companies are vulnerable as hell.
Maybe the designs are very similar, however that doesn't prove China stole them from the US
The design isn't very similar bro
Correct
China in the supply chain would be for more benign parts on the PCB, not processing
It's a carbon copy💀
What's similar then the tech inside them?
You know it's copied because countries working on next-gen stuff than that of the US have turned to other, better, designs
Wake up
The tech isn't similar, I never said that. China doesn't have the capability to have the same tech in military hardware
Speculated conjecture still
That's why their F-35 copy uses Russian engines
You said China stole them
Decades seem like far too long imo
The designs, not the technology
Can that be substantiated?
And where's the s evidence for the alleged act?
It depends on what level of risk really
I asked him the design, he said no
He said that the designs aren't similar
But an exact copy
Believe me you're gonna be disappointed
Why are you a farmer bro wtf
You should be on Sweden's envoy to North Korea, you'd surely convince them to pay for the cars
Note that they also can't make it smaller because they don't have the capacity to go down to the correct nm and shrink the tech, and the engines are poor Russian copies so you need 2 to achieve the same thrust to weight ratio as 1 American engine
I love North Korea I will visit it one day 🙏🏻
Where I said they are very similar, he should say something along the lines of they are not very similar, they are exact copies
The base designs are exact copies, from there, they make modifications based on technical constraints
Can that be substantiated?
They often can't manufacture hardware as sophisticated as the US can, so some things can be understood
Read the message again:
It's blatantly obvious unless you don't want to see it. Other countries developing 5th gen fighters have gone for better designs that have lower radar cross-section, why did China go with the one that the US uses?
Answer: They don't have their own RnD
Can you also say that about their Evs, ships, Smart phones, 5G?
I'm not that interested in China,but what I know which also a fact is that China is leading the US across many sectors
Because they're smart enough to be self-sufficient and build for capacity
But they get a head start by copying other countries IP, and sometimes they do it better
Like with EV's, not a single European or American EV is as good as a Chinese
So you're saying a country that spent approximately 500 billions dollars just last year in science and research
Don't have any of their own?
@fresh flower Deny the truth all you want
Yes
None of that is spent where it matters
What truth💀
Just do a simple Google search
I did
EVs, definitely started after other countries did and sometimes they even used videos from other car manufacturers
Smartphones, other than huawei they all use the same qualcomm chips
5G is a standard set by the US, their implementation might be done differently in China but they have to adhere to certain specifications, even if it brings buying components from Taiwan etc.
Now guess where Qualcomm manufactures their chips at
Cope 😂
Bro gave up💀
The argument is not about who started it, it's about who's better
By the way, I just debunked your claims about China not having any RNDs,
You shouldn't be too happy
I know what to do
It’s not a contradiction. IP theft can jump-start development, but it doesn’t stop a country from eventually becoming a genuine innovator.
In China’s case, copying or stealing intellectual property gave domestic companies a head start. When Chinese firms got hold of Western designs or software, they didn’t just resell exact copies forever—they learned how those systems worked. Engineers studied, modified, and improved them. Over time that built skill, infrastructure, and research capacity.
For example, in the 1990s and early 2000s, Chinese electronics and machinery firms copied Western and Japanese models. By the 2010s, companies like Huawei and DJI were out-innovating many of their original sources in telecom and drones. The same happened with solar panels—China started by copying foreign designs but now dominates global production and innovation.
So it can be simultaneously true that China engaged in IP theft and now leads in those same areas. Theft accelerated the learning curve, but sustained dominance came later from heavy investment, education, and iterative improvement—not just copying.
EVs, imports and relying on their deals with countries to secure quality
Ships, I wouldn't know
5G, same argument, it doesn't make sense
Smart phones, same argument, how many US companies make pure US phones? Apple? They aren't the best, and they're the only "American" option
I'd say Samsung does still compete with Xiaomi and Oneplus across all market segments, if not outperform
So you now admit China have Some RNDs?
China May have stole those technologies, but what matters is China was able to improve them and make them much much better, while the so called owner was sleeping
That's because they have authoritarianism. The only thing preventing the west from improving EVs is... people and fearmongering by politicians
Phones? Other than Huawei, all Chinese smartphones rely on US designs AND hardware, and Google so they actively use US work (legally) for phones, they haven't really improved on western hardware at all, the most they can change is their skinning of the OS and maybe the body of the phone and the battery? Not much else, their cameras are also still behind, because they put extra processing into the extreme white beauty standard weirdness that they have over there
Do me a favor and paste what you wrote to chatgpt
And tell me his response
😭😭😭
You guys cracked me up 🤣
DO a little research before you come with some meaningless arguments 😭
It literally said true, mostly true, partly true, partly true
I used a screenshot of our chat, including this #🧠|serious-chat message
and
#🧠|serious-chat message
Seems that the image won't load if I share the chat this way, and I don't have image perms here
Even then for the camera argument, it says "partly" only because I skipped over some of them having Leica and Sony sensors... Literally non Chinese cameras
Same stuff that Apple and Samsung use
I remembered about the batteries, forgot about fast charging, since I don't think about charging anymore
Theists often tell me how without god those who are wronged won't get justice, even though the same people believe the only condition for going to heaven is to believe in their religion not be a good human. Many good people would end up in hell in their beliefs, and many bad ones would end up in heaven.
"Noooo we can't kill babies in the womb🤬"
"Why are you defending the babies of giant demon creatures who cause impurities in human genes🤬 They should be killed🤬"
It’s quite revealing of what religion actually wants to do.
It cultivates an ingroup and outgroup and seeks to control the ingroup and set them against the outgroup
And then for some religions it’s easy to even see the motivation for control in the first place.
Mormonism is an American exceptionalist version of Christianity that makes America a holy land.
Islam was a useful tool for Muhammad and his dynasty to expand control over the Middle East and North Africa.
Etc
hello
Like Mormons think the US constitution was divinely inspired but obviously they held the belief back when there were things like slavery and all that. So now they have to back peddle and say it’s only partially divinely inspired
Hi
howss u
Good, what about ya?
fine
Lol
Hi
🤔
Blood money is a payment that you need to pay if you kill someone
Let's say if you kill a guy and the blood money is 100 usd
damn, this hypothetical dead guy is cheap
But if you kill a lady you need to pay mere 50 usd
So her blood money is just half of a man.
This means they are not important than men are
You know, in Islam a father can't be executed for killing his children. He just pays blood money to the victim's heirs.
But when he merely insults Muhammad he is immediately cut off from human race 
Says who? Get your facts straight
I guess I'm taking that money by buying shares of the military companies
I invested some on Israeli and American military industrial complex
they do generate nice profit
interesting investment
Jāmiʿ at-Tirmidhī (Hadith 1400)
Arabic:
عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ: «لَا يُقْتَلُ الْوَالِدُ بِالْوَلَدِ»
English Translation:
ʿUmar ibn al-Khattab reported that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:
“A father is not killed for (killing) his son.”
Reference:
Jāmiʿ at-Tirmidhī, Book 15, Hadith 1400.
Graded Hasan Ṣaḥīḥ by at-Tirmidhī.
While I do agree it's not mentioned in the "QURAN"
But yes in major disciplinary schools
It's taught in the same way for the younger generations
What did ulema say about it?
It doesn't matter who said what
What matters is what are you teaching to younger generations!
Most islamic people follow this
They also teach kids this
Do you even have any idea what you're talking about?
Yes, I Do
Also I don't think you know what you're saying
They worked with this framework in Saudi Arabia for a long time, I think they still do. There's discussion around this among scholars, but it's still a stupid thing to see. Islam doesn't believe in rehabilitation and reintegration of offenders because it considers sever punishments such as the death penalty an essential way to prevent offense in society, yet this is something Muslims cannot agree upon. Here's the Hadith scholars use to justify this idiocy:
Ibn ‘Abbas reported God’s Messenger as saying, “The prescribed punishments are not to be inflicted in mosques and a father is not to be killed for a son.”
Mishkat al-Masabih 3470 - Retaliation - كتاب القصاص - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم) https://sunnah.com/mishkat:3470
This is in Arabic but you can use AI language model to explain and translate for you their logic
هل يقتص من الوالد إذا قتل ولده ؟ - الإسلام سؤال وجواب https://share.google/gOvHGsvv6PsuqligC
that's the quotation by the scholars
If you don't about religion ask scholars of jurisprudence for exegesis, don't just make opinion of what you all read through some hadith without context
I shared the scholarly opinions dude.
You always throw that out of context argument at anything you don't like 😅
Then what's the point of writing books.
If yes, then the islam should ban all such writings, just like how you do with many others right?
Btw, Saudi Arabia applied the rule not out of their whims but because their scholars judged such cases that way.
I won't waste my time arguing with y'all just go VC and debate with sheik, I'll like to be an audience.
That's if you dare
I don't like arguing with close minded people
Oh
Thank-you for not supporting islam teachings
You too come to VC let's debate this together with sheikh
To be fair, it's not something Muslim scholars agree upon.
But
But
.....
Alright agreed!
#1367799103354044446 message
If you dare 🙏
Oh
I don't dare🙏🙏🙏
#1367799103354044446 message
Let's all go thre
@swift crest don't bother talking to those people. They often are disrespectful if you don't agree with them.
Since you're back @winter echo, did you read
#🧠|serious-chat message
Please
Sorry brother but I'm really tired of talking to dawah folk.
Hi
Hello
Hello
Hey come defend China's technological advancements
I'm looking to learn English; I'm in college and plan to move to another country afterwards. Can anyone help me?
I'm at the beginner level lol, I'm using a translator right now.
I've read it, take a look at this please.
https://chatgpt.com/share/690325d3-2eb8-800c-b8fb-848995ef824f
Are you lost?
Or did you come to what she did with your account?
Please I'd like to an audience
Are you a coward?
The mods don't like it.
Did you just chicken out?
hello
Pathetic 😢
What are you guys discussing about?
Wsp
Just admit you're a chicken
Broski
Can you stop?
Stop being a bitch
Get a job
How has this led to insulting, was the topic that deep?
Abdula got his feelings hurt it seems. Muslim fundamentalists can't tolerate the idea of their religion getting criticized.
Istg I leave serious chat for like a few seconds and I come back to a dude calling another dude a chicken, then the other kid tells him to get a job
Yeah they dont bother researching about their own beliefs, so most of the time they cant even back up their own points🤷♂️
Okay its quite peaceful now
I addressed those already:
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They still use cameras not manufactured/developed by the Chinese
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They do have better options only for battery and charging, still in their early infancy, and the only reason for this is because of the longer approval time for newer technology when it comes to such things, in the west
They're still thriving on authoritarianism to have the little progress they're making -
You never specified what about Chinese phones is "better" in any way
In terms of everything except the battery and charging wattages, they're using the same hardware as western products. Because most hardware is still designed by the west, and manufactured by machines only the west has access to.
Funny for ChatGPT to talk about nuance, while not understanding the nuance of my statement either
Hi guys, I'm french and i search someone for speak mb 30 min or 1 hour. I have important meeting tomorrow and i need to prepare. It's just for speak english (my english is not the best ahah)
I simply ask them to go to VC and debate, why are they whining?
🤦♂️
@winter echo leave devil alone he left islam because he wanted to participate in Haram activities
what she did?
Ask her
@shell hemlock
😂😂😂
@shell hemlock he's curious what you did with he's account 🤣😂😂
bro stfo
That's pretty rude, but I'll let you off this once,
Don't try it next time
sad

i was about to say “you better stfo”
Keep talking, I'm collecting materials
that’s me
yooooooooooooo guys
🙏 Give him his account back he's about to start crying 😭
I believe
This Hairline will reach the sky
Hi everyone
hey how are you?
@shell hemlock I've just learned of a very fascinating term, call
The Cobra effect.
You gotta check it out
why are there so many videos about tv series Friends on youtube, is it the same for you
FKK but i really like that
fkkin janifer aniston was cute when she was young
white people are good looking, their eyes are big generally
and i know why that happens, because ugly people are usually hard to find for a partner, so those cute guys are more likely to have kids, then genes of the next generation become more and more beautiful
hello
there is nobody else here but me
im talking to you henntai
What makes you think that?
THAT is what called civilization
Stupid speculated conjecture
when a monkey marries another monkey their kids are also monkeys, better monkey get better kids

?
im a psycho who try to learn english , i have no idea with what i am talking about
ok
The most civilized nation on earth
https://x.com/5149jamesli/status/1983630905236447656?t=PT_GqDZC-U-0It35F3Fwqw&s=19
what is that
.
Interestingly, people from all over the world immigrate to and seek asylum in it.
It's really mind boggling how Muslims kept talking about the collapse of the west for decades, the collapse that never comes 
And their conservative nations are often the ones collapsing.
These are my dance moves
That dumplin looks good asf
There's food channel for such stuff...
Report me
No
ok
Hey
Yes
It's delicious.
I Have ate it with savoury chili oil. It taste unforgettable
I didn't know there was a food channel, otherwise I would have sent the picture there, but the channel was dead anyway when I sent the picture.
PLEASE DONTTT
who’s this handsome
Morning, guys, how are you?
I want to ask you about live in USA as a immigrant from Brazil, you know the ways to do it?

I'm serious
SORIAAA
VORIKKKKIAAAAAA
I'm not from the US
I think right now is a bad time
Fyi @high rapids doesnt like immigrants 😭😭😭
I think im misunderstood, the earlier conversation with someone 😭
What did you say that you dont like weeks ago ?
why
I think the thing u can do is maybe, work there ? Like a basic jobs first idk
Just recently, two people asked me how they could come to Europe as migrants, including Austria, and I helped them find out everything they wanted to know.
I remember you said something but what it is i forgot 😭 conv with a blackwater @
I could even clean bathrooms because it's more rentable than do it in Brazil
That was ragbait
Damn so its a ragebait
Are you from Europe?
Yes from Austria
Yes do that
Job application
but how can I do it?
Cool, I don't know Austria besides the name of the country and an great intellectual man that came from Austria to Brazil in the '40
Its actually kinda dangerous to promote yourself bluntly in social media to apply a job there in USA, u can maybe check linked in or whatever the job searching web is in USA
Tiktok
Its easy to make one, tiktok ac
Ok, thanks for that
But why it's dangerous to say it?
This is not fair😭
Anyone can approach you and have bad intentions to do with you.. which is why it is important to apply with a verified company/business
I think you need a residence permit so that you can't be deported.
Oh, I see
Ragebait
First I would like to know how it is live at the countries of my interest, I have two in mind, Portugal and US
Fly to Austria, I'll treat you to dinner.
for sure, I would do that all legally
During British rule in India, officials wanted to reduce the number of cobras in Delhi. They offered rewards for every dead cobra. At first, it worked — until people started breeding cobras to earn more money. When the reward program ended, breeders released the snakes, making the problem much worse
I knew this because there was a big ‘firm’ of scams human trafficking in a country which they promote a job online mostly facebook and people fall for it , and those people get tortured and basically ‘kidnapped’ by a fake job advertisement
But, in linked in isn't possible to have these fake jobs advertisements too?
To spot a fake job advertisement on LinkedIn, look for red flags like unrealistic pay, vague job descriptions, or demands for personal financial information. Verifying the company and the poster's profile are key steps to confirming a listing's legitimacy.
Are you serious?
Wagwan ?
hiii random but does anyone know how to memorise an essay in 5 hours
I don't have idea of what could be a unrealistic pay in dollars
Whats up it means 🇯🇲
@feral river your chosen people
https://x.com/aldamu_jo/status/1983751563622384059?t=9u-iUNbiZj7QrO2n-JzvKg&s=19
Pray for jamaica y'all melissa hurricane sum
keep repeating this for yourself until you can recite without consulting
do u think its possible in 5 hours
Yes, but break it into smaller parts
If you never did it before it's kinda hard, of course, but what the choices you have?
Example : 100 dollar/hour
ok aight thanks guys imma lockin
Oh nice. Wagwan
are you in high school or something?
Chillin
Okay, thanks for your help
One more question, you know if it have online jobs? That someone without experience could do?
🤙
Jobs..
Same
Those job advertisements wont offer u $100 an hour
💯
Theyll say something like 600$ a day or $2000 a week
My bad, I deleted it
They offer weird rates those fake jobs
And that's is unreal, right?
My fav rigby the cat too
Its closer to realistic
Cleaning job. Just filter the job search to ‘hospitality’ . If online idk
Ohh yeah for like cleaning it makes no sense
Im a thief 
Unless ur cleaning some billionaires house
What makes no sense 😭
Save it 
$2k a week, $400-$600 a day
I think I didn't express my thoughts correctly
Who rigby 😭
My roommate sometimes makes $400-800 a day waiting tables though so i mean
I'm sorry, cut me some slack, I didn't mean that
Are you serious?
That cats name is rigby look up its gif
Yep. All cash, at a BREAKFAST DINER
Aight sign me up 
Actually Im thinking about go to USA to work, live, and marry with my girlfriend
But I would like to work from home here and know where I am to receive in dollars
But I don't know how to do it exactly
RIP Rigby I'll always love you.
It's dead btw
why i got 4 pings from here
Maybe you need to ask those who lives in USA. But in international term ‘fiverr’ freelance job is in the option to work from home and receive in dollars
Damn 💔💔💔
Yup.
she's talking about two different things
Ive used fiverr as a customer before lul
Don't you live in USA?
i get it now i asked chatgpt
Do people actually get a job on Fiverr?
Nope but im experienced with jobs searching
Where are you from?
Isn't that fascinating?
Yes my ex. He got paid 200NOK from an indian man to translate his video and make video editing
Malaysia
I gotta try it sometime
I know how to editing videos, the basics at least
(What I think it's basic, for real)
Idk what youre saying, fiverr isnt the only option, theres alot of ‘freelance’ web. If youre talented in art you can make HUGE money especially to create and draw a ‘logo’ for a brands
Yes
Its not hurt to give it a try yk
Of course, you're right
Thanks for the help
Wish me good luck
there’s smth called a placebo effect which i find interesting
I thought fiverr paid bad
Youre welcome, goodluck and marry your gf
Depends on your client target and what you can offer… higher skill will get you handsomely paid with a right client
fiverr seems so sad to me
i’ve encountered ads of indians and such basically doing some wild things bc people commission them to, all for like $3-5
First world countries really like to exploit from third world
@turbid ivy why? i was playing a psalm on christian VC, while one lady was doing unchristian things, and I get banned?
There having a converstion..
she's showing the middle finger.
You shouldn't have played it.. cause it intrupts the convo
you're so unjust
she got muted
ok got it.
wow you got banned too haha
Dont stream yourself please..
Yeees
I didn’t…. Stream MYSELF! It was just the university yard
but you did show the middle finger
As a joke dude.. because he told me to show my face
ok then maybe you should not have been banned
The christian room doesnt allow streaming yourself... we dont want anyone getting in trouble if their photos are captured ... The mute will expire within a min, you can re join
@faint umbra if you are genuinely curious about christianity, i have proofs compilation for christianity.
Ok..
kjv bible first and last verses have same number of letters and vowels. check it yourself.
Please don't do that
Godfrey are you christian?
Greater friend one can not have than Jesus, who died for you.
Bruh… we live here for a small amount of time and I just want some company
Discord friends are cool
Cool... our friends have been attacked in real life..we dont any troubles for anyone,, understand that please
Godfrey should not have banned her. She's very positive and kind. SHe was just being humourous.,
yes
There is a tag on my name.. if you are looking for a place to have fun
then convert her. She needs Jesus. Time's running out. Jesus is coming soon. Rapture is soon (in few years i think).
She is a Christian
Bruh are you talking about me on a third person?
christians are the best indeed. the most kind and nice people.
That' true
NOW U WILL SEE THIS Bench weather u like it or not
The mute must have been expired.. you can re join.. we had to do that because our friends have been attacked in real life because the photos went in hand of enemies
Oh im sorry
brother, aren't you 11? you sound like 11 lol, no offence.
Please don’t even try to attack me with the bench pic
mhmm.. that's why we had do that.. if you are looking for a cool place for chilling or having freinds.. check out the name of tag on my profile
I think I’d literally go insane if i spent more than 1 minute in that voice channel
I joined last night for 1 second heard some clown going on about the homosexual agenda and left
I like voice channels
Most are chill
U german
Nope
Wie heisst du?
Daniel
first time i see christians fighting with each other
doeos anyone want me to read to them a bible chapter, in Brian's voice? over VC? Please... please please pretty pelase...
Relax guys, I don’t careee
Austrian*
Catholic church accepts lgbtq so u protestants can suck it
reformation bro
Well thats the thing, I joined for 1 second heard that and bounced
@turbid ivy what's your favourite psalm? i'll read it to you over VC.
I have to pee
Enjoy it
So i have no idea what was gonna be said
agenda for existing? lmao
Ooh Hallo, du bist sehr nett
Aye dont be weird
thou shall not make thy brother stumble.
Yeah, Catholicism is more secular compared to other branches of Christianity.
Isn’t that a normal thing to say? In my country everyone says that
Psalm Psalm 88
it's the one branch with a literal theocracy
Be modest
Join philosophy VC and i'll read psalm 88
88?
Ich mochte einen ZungenKuss
Please dont do that iin Philosophy vc
Das ist alles fur meiner Deutsch
it's completely empty room, that's why.
alright lemme join
I thought you will read by yourself
i love pslam 88
if you dislike music, i can stop the music too.
nah it's good. how do you play it
VLC media player lol.
Salam walakum chat
😂 bruh
oh bible voice is Brian, played over Balabolka software.
Who else is looking forward to going to the mosque on Friday
Ohh gotchu
it's so emotional a psalm.
Allahu akbar☝🏻🤲🏻
yeah.. very tough psalm
it's about Jesus, obvciously. Plsalm 88
I find that offensive.
any other favourite?
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psalm 23
We will make India Muslim inshallah 🙏🏻
walaaikumsalam
This lowkey us twin
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Wait wtf why is your name Ruslan
I thought it was him for a second
gtg
godfrey left? ok. see you soon
See you dude, lemme add you
See you in Ask a Christian VC in 20 minutes bro 🙏🏻
Someone's about to hop alts
Yeah, that's also why Catholicism was able to become secularized, because the Pope has the right to reinterpret the Bible.
Hi I’m new
reinterpret but not reprint.
the books of the bibles were do distributed and copied in among the churches that no pope could ever attempt the change even one verse in them without being detected and recieving backlash.
are you sure that's what secularised means
should i make u christian mod akhi
I'm a proud Shia Muslim
can i see ur rock
yeah youd be on the plane too
Man would probably shit himself
He went from crass movies and Family Guy/Ted things to “Do you have a moment to pray with me”

Not me certainly
It should be more secular compared to other religions.
Every Muslim ofc
When it's time for prayer I take my phone and earphones, walk very far away from our street so no one identifies me, and enjoy the 45 minutes of the prayer.
why do you have devil username as a christian?
Maybe listen to music or learn something
oh ok, you are muslim. makes sense.
I'm not Christian, dude. I'm agnostic.
want to hear the words of the bible? Just 1 chapter?
There's 150 psalms. Whichever you say, i'll play it over VC.
umm
We spoke about Christianity before, you didn't give me any good reason to believe. You talked about some sort of numerical miracle, and I told you that you can easily search for any numbers in the book and try to make a link between them and that Muslims do that as well with their texts, you didn't respond to that.
In the Quran there are scientific miracles as well.
I know, all bs.
i also gave you the trump ear bullet prophesy.
have muslims predicted the greatest event of this century, trump bullet?
I also gave you the shroud of Turin, that bears witness of His death, burial, reesssurrection.
Do they also have a burial cloth with the image of a crucified man imprinted over the top 1 nanometer of the surface?
Before we move on, do you agree with me that the whole thing with the numbers is nonsensical?
muslims's numbers can't be verified, and even if true (19 times allah in bible), pretty insignificant compared to the bible's numerical proofs.
there's a difference in finding 913 on the 7th digit of phi vs
finding 913 at the 7^7th digit of phi for the 777th time.
Not all numerical proofs are equally powerful and rare.
913 is the first word of the bible, btw. Cause in hebrew, letters are numbers also.
And in the KJV bible is 7^7 words.
Is this not the most spactacular?
If not, what proof could suffice for you, @serene mist ?
Wanna know something about numbers obsession, watch movie.. The number 23
It is not at all because you get numbers out of the texts and try to find relationships between them.
Which is something that could be done with any book.
I can read through, count shit, and find any kind of relationships between numbers.
It's so weak.
🐍
what about this, @stone siren
if i give you numbers, you say, numbers are not real.
If i give you trump's assassination prophesy, you say, it's just a fluke.
What on earth!
But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows, 17And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented. 18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. 19The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children. 20Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
it is the reason why we shouldn't release the rest of the epstein files
it will disrupt the social order and challenge the current administration
That’s why it’s a good thing
Bro what the fuck do you mean assassination prophecy 💀💀💀
Such as?
Pros = oust bad leader
Cons = maintain bad leader
Cant see how the cons outweigh the pros
Dems also want them to be released so trumpers realize their god king is bad and the epstein files are like
the ultimate evil
Avoiding that is not a con
did the yt shorts link i sent you get through?
Righttttt
looks like it's time for a revolution
Dems don’t want them released, they had the whole Biden presidency to do it.
They have their people on the list too, like Bill Clinton and others.
They’re only able to posture that way because they’re sure the republicans won’t release them
there's a reason why that's not the norm
he will never do that
if that's the case then you will have to face the police with the military
there's nothing that law is above upon, the people who control the force is the law itself
the law is a piece of toilet paper while there's no enforcement
LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER
lol most people have no idea wtf DEI actually is
Trump is the government and the administration
he would probably cancel somebody's ass if they would reject his legitimacy
and he can do that
hiii
but controlled by one group that was capitalists and bureaucrats, which ruled by a party, the Republican party, and under the rule of the President, which is Donald J. Trump
you just proved my point
it is totally controlled by people and the power is centralized together
the only power they doesn't seems to have was because they didn't abuse it yet which you didn't see it
but you see a lot is going on violating the current law runned by president
and you can do nothing about it
pray and hail for him let him to give you a nice image after a decade probably he will become the eternal supreme leader
i'm aware
HEIL DONALD J. TRUMP
🇺🇸
all you have know is nobody should be allowed to criticize the government nor Trump
you still don't get it
you have to obey what the government says
you have to be taxed or else got your butt cancel in jail
that's the reality which you have to do so
LMFAO these leftists really think they can do anything they want
now holding a fucking terrorist flag is not allowed in universities
we are overseeing a bright future based on these justice acts made by Trump administration
exactly DJT on top above everything
imagine two graduates, top 5 in the programme, same ivy league
one is a nepo baby, the other worked 2 jobs, all that jazz
who would you hire?
i just told you that they're top 5 in their programme, the grades shouldn't matter at this point
it is in most of America where all red party is conquered and it's gonne be the entirety of the USA
The Supreme Court ruled that the president is above the law in all core presidential powers
ok good, so who do you think, knowing what both of them went through in life, would be better suited to take on the challenges of any company?
you know the red party on top will deprive such madness of leftism off the people and restore the social order really fast right ?
I think it was working anyway and I see a lot of drama that is going on
which is needed to be suspended indefinitely for maintain the social order in 21th century
freedom of speech should be a privillage not a universal right
and it never should be an universal right
a democratic stable society cannot allow this to happen to make few minorities and leftism communists to use their ideology to fool around people and launch a possible coup overthrow the US government and administration
nepo baby having more experience in what? getting shit handed to them? lol
you seriously think a nepo baby would've had to be more resourceful one?
ok good, we're on the same page, sorta
so is that equity?
Core powers?
Command of the military is an example
that is big news 
china and make america great again work together
we are gonna stop this war
not bad
I said 1000 times that election does not represent democracy it should be destroyed
only totalitarian rule under one great leader would make the entire nation efficient and compete in the survival struggle between states
The president is mostly above the law
he's being charged as felon before he became the president but they can do nothing about it
Yeah doesn’t even matter anymore
The president is effectively unaccountable
Any conflicting laws don’t matter
My brother in fucking christ
The investigation was not a corrupt issue. The investigation was fine.
Everyone throws around the part where he didn’t collaborate with Russia but forgets that he tried but failed due to incompetence
Did you read the fucking report?
No. You can’t have an opinion on the investigation if you don’t understand it.
Which clearly you do not.
That's what everyone should do
You clearly aren’t
Mueller report in summary was that while Trump did not collaborate with the Russians, the Russians repeatedly tried to reach out but incompetence from figures such as Paul Manafort prevented it from happening
My brother/sister/non-binary pal in christ, I read the report in its entire availability when it first became available to the public several years ago.
Read the report.
Sitting down for trade talks in Busan, South Korea on Thursday (Oct 30), Chinese President Xi told his US counterpart Donald Trump that they should ensure steady sailing forward of China-US ties.
"It is normal for the two leading economies of the world to have frictions now and then. And in the face of winds, waves and challenges, you and I at ...

There was no evidence Trump attempted to work with them to sway the election.
Other parties however were not so incompetently hindered.

Brother, he’s literally been caught sending what he thought was a DM to Pam Bondi to arrest his political opposition.
No human being can act without bias. Bias isn’t the problem here.
Read. The. Report.
You are nothing more than a petulant childish layman until you read it.
No one here will take you seriously, nor should they.
I feel like we have taken a Time Machine back to 2016 where everyone can claim to be naïve about Trump 😭
President Donald Trump said goodbye to China's president Xi Jinping en route to boarding Air Force One and heading back to the White House in Busan, South Korea.
The departure was the last of Trump's Asia tour, which included stops in Malaysia and Japan. Now, Trump flies back to the United States where government shutdown stalemate continues ev...
I’ve read the reports.
so many bodyguard around
What’s your job
Oh right. For an outlet or newswire or?
Local and (soon) a national paper.
Oh nice.
I love you
Anyways. You have no excuse @abstract night you’ve had six fucking years to read it but you’ve remained willfully ignorant.
But… but…
Fox News and twitter
And now you’re screaming like a petulant child telling people who’ve actually read it what you think it says.
He wants war give him war!!!
You are the pinnacle of anti-intellectual dishonesty.
Either go read the report. Or shut your mouth on the topic.
I refuse to engage with you or your arguments until you read the report.
I’m not entertaining your petty online debate bro bullshit.
Go. Read. The. Report.
Which book?
Mueller report
Definitely moved towards NATO by invading Ukraine lol
He likes the immigrants Russia drops on the border I guess
Russia has asked again and again not to expand the NATO front into Finland, etc. But you provoked it by wanting to take Ukraine in as well. You sent soldiers to NATO countries.
NATO should expand into Russia
At least soldiers will require indoor plumbing for their prolonged occupation
no we
So because countries willingly joined an imperialist bloc, then Russia has a right to do imperialism? What?
Why are we infantilizing Russia like it’s a kid that got provoked
No he's from Austria, it's not part of NATO
But "Europe first"?
Do you think this guy is against imperialism
🤔🤔🤔
😹 russia is second, china is third, who is first?
Do some people count Russia as in Europe
Typical Russian stooge
No but often pro Russian people claim to be against imperialism because they think Russia is anti imperialist, but idk maybe that’s too many dengists
These leftists have betrayed us. With the right people, we would have gotten rid of all these migrants long ago.
He is a self defined far righter
Oh classic
Russia isn't second it's third, even if half of China's ICBM's have water as fuel they have a higher probability of a successful launch than Russian ones
Russia isn’t even third
"The Russian language is in top 5 most popular languages in Moscow"
Oh you’re talking about nukes nvm
Only if it's Russia
Imagine they try to launch one and Boris sold the fuses for scraps
Since when
"stole a job"
Did Germany face a famine at the end of WW2
Anyway if the answer is yes I still think it's justified
If Russia wins the war one day, it can finally invade Finland.
Happens
Our ancestors had to make sacrifices, whether they fought on the right side or the wrong side
What is the topic for today?
Finland is an ally of Russia? I wasn't notified
Based
There were no Russia or Finland during WW1
Both were a country named Russian Empire
You are talking about illegals rights?
Assuming the Russian Empire was Russia, Finland was just an autonomous duchy
Russia doesn’t even exist today, it’s the Russian Federation
ICE IS GOING TO DEPORT YOUR ASS
I always find it interesting how you can liven up the chat with a rage bait.
Why did you say your are a migrant who is stealing jobs from Americans?
Ya
Sorry for the rage bait, @manic juniper . It looked like your blood pressure had shot up.
Much love from Austria to all of you
How tf is... no no no no I'm not going to be rage baited
Love from the glorious state of Texas.
Oh you mean like they deport illegal immigrants throughout the world? Ya i hope that happens. They are competent.
Can i try to post act and potency argument to you
So as the 19th amendment
😭😭😭😭😭
Hi guys, do you know why Northern Europe is one of the richest and most prosperous areas in the world? Because they were the first countries where the Liberal ethic spread
Ahmed you gotta say something 💀
What's liberal ethics?
It's a joke
Norway never colonized anyone, and they were under the rule of the Danish crown for a long time, and yet...
I think feminism is good but DEI is horrible. So I think it is wrong to say Northern European countries are richer because they have dei and feminism.
Norway is a bunch of 5 million people sitting their asses on a mountain of oil barrels
Wait she was making fun of my religion?
And Iceland?
How do you measure the "wealth" of a country?. Sure the average person in Northern Europe richer than the average American but the richest American is way richer than the richest Northern European (NE).
Yeah? If you use the same definition on past data it isn't accurate?
I don't get it💀
However, I think that America is one of the most historically liberal countries
I'm not a muslim anymore so that Islamophobia doesn't effect me. But the race thing is really funny because and I'm not offended by it.
Our founding fathers were mostly libertarians.
? Wdym? She doesn't offend me bro what are you talking about?
He's bored he's trying to create drama 😭
Fr
Ya she is stupid. Another dishwasher malfunctioning.
Ik and I want drama too. I just wish we were on twitter or something so that I can bring out the misogynistic sexist in me.
She's a dishwasher. A malfunctioning one.
Why did everyone runaway
Well if tell to not be racist. You have to fight fire with cyanide
Or somehting idk
True, but I think it was only in the early stages of American history. However, I think it's also an economic and social doctrine even more positive than liberalism itself
America has become more socialist today than anytime.
Ofc until Trump won his 2nd term.
@moderator ask-a-christian vc channel is gone!
I was going to say that.
True, but relatively. Many European countries are far more screwed
The world is moving towards socialism when politicians think more about their seats than about ideals
at what level can one stream in vc and what level am i?
@turbid ivy dude, you accidently deleted the entire ask-a-christian vc channel, please undo it.
Isfrun still posts, but not as frequent.
It's still there
oh yeah i got banned from that channel, that's why not showing here
Damn, why did that happen?
i was playing audio bible through software lol, through my microphone.
So preachy that even the Christians banned bro 😭
@turbid ivy please i won't play or spam the audio-bible again, please, i would just listen christians talk... please unban me from that channel... every other channel is trash.
Why are you begging to someone who isn't even vc mod?
no he is mod indeed. he banned me and another girl.
The channel is right there btw it's not gone
He isn't
then where might i find vc mods?
it says " you dont' have access to this link"
A VC mod banned you, not Nobu the bum
im screwed
You could always convert to Islam
Or Hinduism
Or just join a gay orgee
Or literally anything else other than make religion the # 1 thing in your life.
Yesyes
can someone ping someone who's a mod and online, please?
Bro hasn’t read my profile or understood the reference
im not a mod dude
omg dude you're a mod!
You called? @cobalt comet
brother please, i'm soso so so sorry, so sorry please... please unban me from vc
You gotta ping a vc mod buddy. What room did you get banned from?
ask-a-christian
All this just to schizopost some numbers that have nothing to do with the Bible

You mean the Muslim Room 2.0?
Why tho?
Yeah they don’t talk about the Bible there as much as they spend time hating on Muslims.
I forgot /s I knew it would be a mistake
Lol
You want a copy? Free
i'm so depressed i got banned from christian vc channel...
imma leave server and quit discord.
You think I'm not normal 
You could just wait for your ban period to end, or ping a mod and apologize.
what's the default peroid?
There's no defualt, it's something the mod determines and they used to send a message through the server's bot about how long you got banned for.
The Way of Kings, Brandon Sanderson
I mean...I went to the vegan channel and that was a fever dream
Like you'd always see this stereotype of an angry vegan redditor ......
Kinda came true in the VC 💀
I think I've heard it before, but I can't really remember where, or what it is about.
Mind telling me?
Hail the IDF 🇮🇱
They are the Army of the God, aimed to eliminate every evil beings on planet earth for humanity
May Jesus Christ bless them
Why not give your entire life loyal to the Supreme Leader of your nation
I don’t like your implication here
We need only one channel on TV for praising the leader 24/7
Jesus Christ never called for genocide, don’t worry that much
I remember something now, wasn`t he an atheist?
He exploits sacred religious texts to promote his personal views
That's just absurd
I’m 100% sure IDF doesn’t have to kill a million people to achieve their objectives
They argue they have to
Even if they did you'll still lick their boots like a good goy
He is,… but he’s also neck deep in the Kool-Aid
Where did these weirdos come from?
Slander. Wit would have mocked every member of congress then slaughtered them all before putting crabs in charge.
Not a chance if it didn’t generate very much profit as dividends to me
Why the fuck I have to support an army with no money return
Reasonable
If they return 500% yield of profit I would support them to do anything the fuck they want
may I ask a question if you don't mind
||how old are you?||
Yeah i understand that , but why are you always connecting Their actions with Christianity and Jesus , so that you feel better about yourself!? Or to please people around you
Why don’t you just try to guess this one
Nah I just see a church around my fucking house and it was nice, I feel I was connected to Jesus
And use Jesus to get more profit ?

That's very fucked up ways dude but if they works , go for them
Btw even if there’s none I would still say pretty much Jesus Chirst

@feral river how much have you had to drink tonight?
🥀 anyone here is a native english speaker ???
23+
Just caffeinated
If you’re seeing jesus after a drink I need whatever the fuck it is you’re having wtf?
You have to be Chinese first
Nah i just found this chruch around my house
Praise Jesus
Even a regular revolutionary could launch a revolution killed tens of millions of people by the claim of I’m the fucking cousin of the Jesus
Glory to AIPAC
We all love Israel 🇮🇱
Nepo baby ?
im 17 and cooked
Don’t forget to kiss the beautiful wall
Just like the big beautiful bill made by DJT
Yeha you are cooked because you are Gen Z
We are comrades because I’m Gen Z too
what should i do
We have no choice but launch the world war 3
Freelancer
Don’t say that soldier, you are part of this
Win the war against the old ass
Dude is so wanted to have him a million dollar debt
Crypto trading is illegal where we live
good idea
making crypto trading platform
Even Mining coins
You know someone on discord is broke if they say crypto as financial advice
It's not that easy bro , but yeah Dubai is a good place for something like that
no , i want to move th UK
It is illegal but we do that
Btw it’s illegal in China mainland but it’s legal in Hong Kong
Ong
Hong Kong is the special administrative region of China
isn't it the same country
they are all chinese
It is one country but two systems
okay
Hong Kong was part of the People’s Republic of China
this is the US
okay
But they use a different law system, they had their democratic election, they had their parties, separation of power etc.
And they are a SAR
Which is the special administrative region
We crash their fucking day dream few years ago dude
Hong Kong can never be independent
I see
girlypop
Anyway I have to sleep now it’s fucking 1 AM
I have to sleep earlier to make this world terrible than ever
is the writing system hard
Hail Supreme Leader 🇰🇵 Kim Jong Un
Hail President 🇺🇸 Donald J. Trump
Hail Prime Minister 🇮🇱 Benjamin Netanyahu
Hail General Secretary 🇨🇳 Xi Jinping
Anyway that’s it I guess
Have fun guys gotta sleep
you froget russia
goodbye
Yeah but tomorrow
so you are supporting a war criminal?
Guys
The staff can change my level of english?
top right, next to the name
Ah ok
I did it thank you
Why ur profile so gay bro
hello
for example you're sick, and you eat gummy bears and pretend that it's a magic gummy that heals you, you will actually heal
I'm edating a man @uncut tiger
No fucking way dawg
They did ts to me
And ts pmo fr
Hello

Wassup
Why be halal when you can be haram
serious chat indeed
@formal pilot aladdin i saw you typing
halal is better
But andouille sausage
I was copying one of my previous messages about nihilism to send in beginner chat lol
What??
It’s so good
Is my profile tuff?
I met a nihilist who is a vegan
What is it made off
Pork
It lacks personality
Never eaten it but I know it doesn't taste better than a fried chicken
Depends on the fried chicken
That's a really interesting take, and seems to be contradictory
Put something, don't be emo
You can't go wrong with fried chicken bro
It’s mid, never seen good fried chicken outside the US. And in the US it depends where you go
Greet the devil there
I swear to God he is a nihilist and a vegan he usually hungs around the vegan vc
I won't say anything racist
Good for him
If you don't like fried chicken there is something wrong with you
You mean that animal that eat everything, even dead bodies?
I see what about the sausage you are talking about
Sounds a lot like humans
Higher floor so hard to go wrong.
Ceiling is about the same imo
How do you mean?
Humans eat quite a lot. We eat the dead bodies of animals all the time
???
I will
Yk that i change it a lot
