🧠｜serious-chat

[shell hemlock]

after 120 days it means life was breathed into the fetus, making it a living human being with a life

[formal pilot]

Yes I do have one great website, lemme send you the link

[slender coral]

So, is letting sperms die immoral?

[shell hemlock]

i’m getting déjà vu from this topic

[empty heath]

I might just become a clinician to do abortions and upset pro lifers

[fossil perch]

So murder is better than adoption now? What type of shi is that?

[formal pilot]

@nova obsidian
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[fossil perch]

The sperms won't become a human. Unlike the fetus

[empty heath]

I'd say that killing something that isnt even experiencing shit yet is better than making two adults suffer (and possibly the child that could develop from that clump of cells)

[slender coral]

If you live somewhere where it's illegal, you'd begin to really feel bad for your customers that you may not want to earn much money from it.

[formal pilot]

And trust me it's not fun to have parents who didn't want you at first place

[fossil perch]

Let them suffer for their bad decisions. It's called consequences.

[slender coral]

They have the potential to become humans as well.

[formal pilot]

Kid also suffers lol

[reef burrow]

I live in a majority of Christian ethics, and I'm not much of a social media guy.

[nova obsidian]

Awesome, thank you! I'll check it out

[formal pilot]

[empty heath]

Is sex a crime? If not, then why punish or say it has consequences?

Be a little logical for fuck's sake

[reef burrow]

[empty heath]

This happened to me

[reef burrow]

i think he meant morally wrong

[fossil perch]

If you leave them they won't become humans, it's about their whether they are now in the state of being able to become humans.

Or that they are in that process.

Sperms are not in the process of becoming humans, the fetus is in hat process.

[empty heath]

"If you leave them they wont become humans"

The fetus will also not become human by itself unless the mother continues sustaining it

[fossil perch]

It's called letting them face the consequences. Not everything with consequences is a crime.

[fossil perch]

And I don't think the mother will stop sustaining itself.

[empty heath]

Believe me, it doesnt feel good to be raised in a family that didnt want you in the first place, that doesnt love you, that didnt nurture you

I think about suicide many times

Ithink im gonna go sleep

Im not fine

[fossil perch]

Put him on adoption then if you really don't want the baby that much. Why do you use this false dichotomy of raising the baby abd abortion

[empty heath]

Have some empathy

[frigid cargo]

Love yourself ❤️

[fossil perch]

Bro chill. Take a deep breath

[empty heath]

You're saying it as if adoption is any better

[fossil perch]

I have empathy for people who get killed just for their mere existence.

[feral river]

they knew actually a lot but for this case, using force is the best choice to deal with them

[empty heath]

They're not people

[reef burrow]

is it morally wrong to killed a baby before it was born?

[golden jetty]

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3208

[fossil perch]

Murder isn't better either. This is all because a dude couldn't put his d in his pants and a woman who could close her legs.

I don't have sympathy for lack of self control.

[feral river]

communists never spare any reactionarist or any other forces which would oppose to them, eliminate the opposition completely is the only way you can achieve your own goal based on your own vision

[golden jetty]

No

[empty heath]

Its not murder, its a clump of cells, not a person

[feral river]

implement a totalitarian rule, replace any other ideology, eliminate opposition is very necessary

[reef burrow]

then there is your answer about abortion

morality is subjective after all

[empty heath]

Why do you even care about what other people do

If they want to kill that clump of cells then let them do it. Dont give a fuck about what other people do

Will you make a fuss if your neighbor gets an abortion? Will you shame her?

[fossil perch]

Why? Because they are smaller? They are "less developed"? These are the same dehumanising shi nazis were saying about the Jews.

This dictation of a person's rights based on their development is against the very essence of human rights.

[feral river]

your human rights isn't universal and we don't give a fuck about it

[golden jetty]

No, morality is both objective and subjective

[empty heath]

Except for the fact that they're indeed less developed so your analogy makes no sense, idiot

[fossil perch]

So what? I and you were also clumps of cells. Is it ok if someone murderers you?

[feral river]

we use every measure we want to achieve our goal without any limit based on some piece of shit

[empty heath]

Semantics

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[reef burrow]

how can morality be objective, name one morals subject that we universally agreed on

[feral river]

morality is a piece of shit that authority uses to fool people around to make their rule justified and become easier

[empty heath]

I hate my life i want to end this suffering

[feral river]

it's an opium to make you do as their will

[fossil perch]

So your value as a human is based on your "development", whatever that word means, not for being a human?

[feral river]

LMFAO

[empty heath]

I dont want to engage please stop it i cant

[feral river]

there's no fucking objective morality

[empty heath]

I hate my life

[fossil perch]

?? Let's go back to my old question, is it ok to kill a person in a temporary coma or sleeping?

[feral river]

nor universal morality exists

[empty heath]

Stop it please

[golden jetty]

Almost everywhere, agree that being cruel for no reason is wrong

[reef burrow]

that's what I'm saying

[reef burrow]

then what about murderers

[empty heath]

Please stop it

[reef burrow]

are you gonna change their morals

[feral river]

nah I don't agree that, in any circumstances I could use cruel measures to seize interest for my personal gain

[fossil perch]

Sure if you can't except that all humans have rights. Have a nice day

[feral river]

that's absolutely necessary

[fossil perch]

That's how the "pro choice" people argue guys

[feral river]

a very important part to expand your interest of influence

[empty heath]

Why are you so mean

[fossil perch]

Not trying to be mean ♥

[feral river]

how could you automatically renounce your devine right of using forces and violence with cruel measures ?

[fossil perch]

Sorry

[turbid dome]

💀🫡

[feral river]

sounds like you already ready to face death without resistence

very impressive

[empty heath]

You genuinely make me think nobody loves me

Nobody chooses me for anything

Im worthless

[golden jetty]

Guys is @empty heath okay?

[fossil perch]

Im sorry I made you feel that way ❤️, I love you man.

[feral river]

moral is a piece of shit which has no fucking enforcement, it's literally a fucking toilet paper

nobody gives a fuck or use this to regulate themselves

if everybody use that I don't use it therefore I will become the man in charge by scaring them the fuck out

[empty heath]

Its 3:27 AM and im talking in a discord server instead of sleeping as i should im so fucking stupid

[reef burrow]

you are something else

[empty heath]

My therapist told me to try and sleep early but i cant im just stupid

[feral river]

LRWEITP

[fossil perch]

That's a good point, but remember that others are going to do the same thing to you, so don't whine and cry when it happens to you.

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[fossil perch]

Sleep!!!!

[fossil perch]

You are right.

[feral river]

I don't cry the fuck out if that happens on me because it won't happen on me I ain't some fucking loser need this piece of shit to protect myself

I had my wealth I had my guns, I don't need your shit neither your mercy at all

[empty heath]

Im self neglecting a lot i cant

[reef burrow]

what

[feral river]

who the fuck needs some piece of shit that only protect fucking losers ?

[fossil perch]

Good

[feral river]

sounds like very against the natural selection

survival for the fittest dude

[golden jetty]

We call it murder precisely because there’s a shared norm against unjustified killing the outliers don’t erase the norm

[empty heath]

😢

[reef burrow]

that's not what I asked but okay

[fossil perch]

Who's the "fittest" in this context?

While ya I agree law without power is ink on paper, we shouldn't supress free speech.

[feral river]

maybe murder wasn't a nice choice to settle conflict but prosecution with death penalty is very necessary

[fossil perch]

There is, we made it.

[reef burrow]

and what is that

[feral river]

that's your opinion anyway but depends on different situation, in a nature world where no law exists, who control the most gun who's the fittest

[golden jetty]

If your principle can’t be applied to you without objection it isn’t a principle it’s a tactic

[feral river]

in capitalist world under a state who controls wealth who's the fittest

[fossil perch]

Murder is bad.

[feral river]

in communist state who's the higher rank official who's fittest

not a very hard question

[fossil perch]

That's why we in america want to have the strongest military in the world 🇺🇸

[feral river]

it is applied on me all the time actually

[empty heath]

nobody notices me im just a worthless stupid fucking no one

[fossil perch]

Not very cool

[feral river]

exactly that's why you ccould run the world on your own

🇺🇸

[fossil perch]

Bro stop saying thay shi

[golden jetty]

Murderers don’t prove the rule is false, only that people sometimes break it. I'm saying almost everyone agrees unjustified killing is wrong, some still do it anyway

[reef burrow]

degrading yourself won't make it better

[feral river]

very true

I live in a semi-communist state or post-communist state I feel this pretty hard

also my family was a bureaucrat CCP family

[empty heath]

😢

[fossil perch]

Hong kong?

[golden jetty]

Im confused whos degrading themself?

[feral river]

PRC 🇨🇳

People's Republic of China

[formal pilot]

You don't necessarily need to be noticed to live a happy life lol

[fossil perch]

The cat dude

[fossil perch]

Its not really "people's" if the people can't have free speech.

[reef burrow]

there are also many subjective where individuals simply don't care, almost "everyone" agreed is a non sensible. There are many other examples, not Just murder but others

[feral river]

you can conquer your place to make people notice that

I always do that I conquered a lot of places and spaces even it's on internet

[empty heath]

i never was and i dont think ill ever do no matter what i do or how hard i try its not working it never works

not evn my sychologist understands me it feels bad

[feral river]

free speech wasn't that necessary to be universal, for me I had full free speech as I do speak in here nobody is going to have me around

[fossil perch]

I love you 💖

[feral river]

I don't think somebody deserve free speech

[golden jetty]

Bro what

[empty heath]

you dont

stop lying

[fossil perch]

😘

[empty heath]

no

[feral river]

free speech was a privilage, it never should be a universal right applied on everybody

[formal pilot]

Dude you don't need to be noticed, earn money and book escort

[fossil perch]

Aside from the fact that no one "at least rational" wants his speech to be suppressed, we also need people to be able to oppose bad ideas and notions in society.

[feral river]

especially some fucking separatist and some stupid guys would promote leftism piece of shit we would definitely use forces to crack them the fuck down and slience them pretty much

[reef burrow]

just take a deep breaths and let it out

[fossil perch]

Find something that you'd like to suffer for.

[empty heath]

Youll never understand

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[feral river]

unnecessary, it would cause chaos and social unrest, let the people discuss in rational case is fine but express bad emotions or challenge the authority is unacceptable

we need to maintain the social order for our interest

[fossil perch]

What do you mean "privilege"? That implies freedom of speech is scare resource. While in reality it can be given to everyone.

[feral river]

we don't have to give it to everyone, somebody doesn't deserve to have it

[fossil perch]

So I cant criticise nazis?

[feral river]

you have to be responsible of what you are saying for all the time

[feral river]

that's fine if you do that

but you can't criticize our government neither our current administration if you live here

[fossil perch]

Do you know what is free speech? At least in the USA constitution sense?

[feral river]

1st amendment yes

[fossil perch]

What does it say?

[feral river]

I know pretty much about the US consititution

[spice bobcat]

Whining about an arbitrary problem and then shunning a responsive rationale in order to fit in your bias seems like you only seek self-validation and not a solution. If you rather say you'll not understand then how do you expect a proper conversation or solution

[feral river]

I would uphold 2nd amendment instead if you gave me a choice lmfao

[feral river]

free speech is a right to everybody

[golden jetty]

Subjective means some disagree, it doesn’t erase patterns. We don’t need 100% to say a norm is objective, you agree?

[fossil perch]

Yes, what free speech? explain it.

[feral river]

freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of the press etc.

[reef burrow]

i can agree on that I guess

[fossil perch]

It's ok if you don't know.

[golden jetty]

Just boost your testosterone everything will be fine trust

[feral river]

and assembly

[reef burrow]

seeking validation?

[spice bobcat]

I'd hope so

[fossil perch]

OK let me explain it. The 1A give the people of the United States of America the right to express themselves without government prosecution.

[empty heath]

Theres not solution for me

[reef burrow]

oofs that sucks

[golden jetty]

@empty heath Just try what I told you bro

[fossil perch]

@feral river

[feral river]

yeah

[empty heath]

I cant

[reef burrow]

and why is that?

[empty heath]

Its hard to even type

I dnt want to move from bed for days

[fossil perch]

Meaning you have the freedom of speech but not the freedom of social consequences

[golden jetty]

No deadass boost testosterone it will save your life

[spice bobcat]

That doesn't posit giving up bruv. Start from the menial activity of journaling, do something. A solution is only found when you look for it.

[empty heath]

Im tired of everything just leave me alone please

I cant do this

[reef burrow]

you could just ignore us

[golden jetty]

I wont until you boost your testosterone

[spice bobcat]

Shi do a flip

[reef burrow]

just saying

[empty heath]

Im gonna turn my phone off

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/backflip-back-flip-gif-5547677

[empty heath]

Bye

[fossil perch]

@empty heath it is really simple man

drink water, exercise, eat healthy food, sleep.

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-peter-griffin-family-guy-clapping-audience-gif-8061025

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-tucker-bye-bish-gif-13500768

Bros such a ragebait

[fossil perch]

Now i need to start another conversation in this "serious chat".

[spice bobcat]

This is why clinical depression gets stigmatized 💔

[golden jetty]

Do it, its dying hurry

[golden jetty]

Dont fall for the ragebait

[reef burrow]

yea bring something up

[fossil perch]

Ya I genuinely thought he is depressed or something smh

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/my-new-character-bruno-nonchalant-teaboimnc-gif-7590548636054634250

[spice bobcat]

Shake yo dreads typeshiffft

[pastel wigeon]

We are gonna cooked 🙃

[golden jetty]

Bro caught your attention

[fossil perch]

should everyone be able to vote?

[reef burrow]

well those amazon employees are done for

[spice bobcat]

People with depression don't really show it often or talk about it

[pastel wigeon]

Im scared af

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cooked-we-are-cooked-gg-ggs-gif-10973716785212391451

[reef burrow]

I guess

[spice bobcat]

Unless they've been freshly diagnosed

[golden jetty]

Those indian truck drivers

[spice bobcat]

Nobody can replace the goats

[reef burrow]

wait I'm done for as well, I'm working minimal jobs

[reef burrow]

if they replace that, I'm gonna crash out

[pastel wigeon]

I'm learning software dev and I'm a cs major. Seems like I'm going to be homeless 😭

[golden jetty]

No, non citizens, minors, and individuals without identification should absolutely not be able to vote

[pastel wigeon]

It's so hard nowadays 😭

[golden jetty]

Im gonna cry bud

[spice bobcat]

Nice doxx I'll see you soon

[fossil perch]

I think right off the bat, any person with mental illnesses is not allowed

[reef burrow]

didn't last month ago or so, where ai can do software engineering?

[feral river]

https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1982906795141263417

Homeland Security (@DHSgov)

You have a duty, American.

X · Oct 27, 2025, 8:26 PM

[pastel wigeon]

It is still not fully automated but like I mean how long 2 year's 5 max. Then what ☠️

[feral river]

TURN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO PURE RED

HAIL 🇺🇸 DONALD J. TRUMP

[plain ruin]

#LWEITP

[fossil perch]

Not only that, people with mental illnesses and people with less than 80 IQ

[reef burrow]

packs your bag and get ready for janitors jobs..

[fossil perch]

This guy is based

[pastel wigeon]

Last hope 🤞

[reef burrow]

alright this is boring

[pastel wigeon]

It have to be

Coz it's serious chat 🙃

[reef burrow]

I'm gonna ask chatgpt for topics

[fossil perch]

@feral river is the reason why I love China

[reef burrow]

[golden jetty]

Dont just randomly send these type of photos on here bro

[fossil perch]

Chatgpt is a sophisticated parrot

[pastel wigeon]

Chatgpt 😭😭 only person who knows me better than anyone else

[reef burrow]

that chatgpt gonna steal your job soon, just saying

[pastel wigeon]

Don't talk about him like that 😭, he's real one 😭

[golden jetty]

Bro stop we know exactly where you are

[fossil perch]

His a clanker!!! 🤖

[pastel wigeon]

It is also helping me rn

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-gpt-gpt-go-lets-go-answer-gif-9692481123412883348

[pastel wigeon]

Give and take

[reef burrow]

"using chatgpt to passed medical exam"

[pastel wigeon]

[fossil perch]

*to pass medical exam.

[reef burrow]

sarcasms

[fossil perch]

"Using" implies that you are doing it now

[pastel wigeon]

We are pretty much deep in this shit

[golden jetty]

I disagree, they should have the right to vote buddy

[fossil perch]

I'm saying your sentence is grammatically incorrect

[reef burrow]

oh yea...

[fossil perch]

People with than 80 iq literally cant understand hypotheticals

You could tell them "what if you didnt eat breakfast yesterday" and they go but "I have ate breakfast yesterday"

[slender coral]

Ok, but this still doesn't explain why a fetus is like an unconscious human for u. It's certainly still closer to a sperm.
I wonder, do you oppose abortion in any situation or do you think sometimes it should be allowed?

[pastel wigeon]

Does anyone read the Daniel Kokotajlo research paper about the future of AI.

It is scary af☠️💀

[reef burrow]

your saying that people with severe metal illness and low intellectual individuals shouldn't have voting right?

[reef burrow]

what does it say?

[fossil perch]

The only case were abortion is good is when the woman will die if she gives birth. Unless there is a way to like have an artifical womb to keep the fetus in or somrhing.

Even in that case abortion is bad and murder but it is a necessary murder.

[pastel wigeon]

It is a long long research I also didn't read that I watched the explained yt video 🙃

[fossil perch]

Yes, they are not able to make good decision.

[reef burrow]

bad enough, I'm soo done for

[pastel wigeon]

Daniel Kokotajlo is ex chief Open ai scientist and his previous predictions was correct

[pastel wigeon]

Same 😭

[wraith sorrel]

[reef burrow]

pray to y'all cs and software engineer students

[golden jetty]

IQ tests are bs

[pastel wigeon]

We need that. Please do 🙏😭

[fossil perch]

? You have a better way to measure intelligence?

[reef burrow]

does creativity equal intelligence?

[wraith sorrel]

How good someone is in their own field of interest?

[pastel wigeon]

I think Magnus has the most rn. I'm not sure I think he has around 200 or something

[plain ruin]

What 'mental illnesses' would fall under this category?

[golden jetty]

Conversation

[pastel wigeon]

Top 1%

[reef burrow]

chess enthusiastic?

[pastel wigeon]

I play occasionally

[golden jetty]

Nah, its younghoon kim

[fossil perch]

Also, the fetus is like an unconscious human because both are going to become conscious at one point if left alone. Unlike the sperms which if I leave them in my ballsack, they would just decompose back to their components.

[pastel wigeon]

I like and hate chess

[pastel wigeon]

Always Chinese

[golden jetty]

I play religiously

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-18145514339307366392

[reef burrow]

same, highest elo peak is probably 1500+

[pastel wigeon]

Oh goddd😭. It means I'm noob 😞😔

[winter echo]

There's one British guy, I think his name is George something, he have IQ of around 300

[reef burrow]

how can you play chess religiously, is levy your priest or something

[lime cobalt]

Bro , do u think human can hollisticaly understand universe ? I just watch comet 3i atlas

[fossil perch]

Politics is could be a good indicator with iq. How good a person is in politics (which correlates with iq btw) and iq.

[pastel wigeon]

What does he do

Dc don't have ai in chat huhh

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[pastel wigeon]

Thank godd it's better I think

[wraith sorrel]

Hello

[reef burrow]

i haven't play it for a few months now, and I don't think I'm that good now..

[plain ruin]

I don't think that's currently possible
Whether that is possible someday isn't a question for me

[reef burrow]

but I can still beat the shit out @thorny steeple

[fossil perch]

All the mental illnesses that distorts someone's ability to make decisions. Such as Schizophrenia

[pastel wigeon]

Bro mine is 800 🌚👽

[reef burrow]

oh...

[thorny steeple]

good and evil don't inherently exist and you can't prove me wrong

[reef burrow]

dammm

[lime cobalt]

Yeah i call science now is local science , not universal yet

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah society influences

[wraith sorrel]

Yes, you are right

[pastel wigeon]

I think

[golden jetty]

I meditate on the board

[reef burrow]

you're absolutely right dude

[fossil perch]

They exist the same way that governments and human rights exist.

[thorny steeple]

What people see as either good or evil changes over time

[winter echo]

Cope, either you adapt to changing times or get left behind, the choice is yours

[reef burrow]

are you trying to reach nirvana on chess?

[pastel wigeon]

You read philosophy

I mean study

[thorny steeple]

DO you?

[pastel wigeon]

Ethics is the branch what you are saying

Of philosophy

[lime cobalt]

Who study astronomy ?

[plain ruin]

Interesting, so does someone with ADHD fall under this category because of an inability to make decisions? Should a retired vet with PTSD fall under this category? Is a high functioning autistic person falling under this category? Would someone with schizophrenia that is actively aware of the hallucinations and manages to deal with them effectively and have a normal work-life balance fall under this category?
Seems like you just used an umbrella term without thinking enough about the variables

[reef burrow]

question "should eq be important as iq"..

[pastel wigeon]

Sometimes. I really love it but don't get time for that. I only like metaphysics 😭

[plain ruin]

Yeah, agreed

[pastel wigeon]

What is eq

[thorny steeple]

It all ties together

[reef burrow]

emotional intelligence

or emotional quote

[pastel wigeon]

metaphysics are things you can't answer that from science and I really love that

[pastel wigeon]

Oh

I think both are important

[thorny steeple]

What do you think about the soul/consciousness

[pastel wigeon]

Oh goddd its so deep I can't answer it rn 😭😭

[thorny steeple]

What about unemotional intelligence

[reef burrow]

there are different view in there...

[pastel wigeon]

Amazing questions 😭

[golden jetty]

What people see as either good or evil changes over time, good and evil come from god's guidance

[thorny steeple]

I think I can go way deeper and im ready to push you down a rabbit hole

[lime cobalt]

What will you do when Andromeda and the Milky Way collide?

[reef burrow]

well there are some statement I guess

[thorny steeple]

Good and evil dont exist, whether or not there is a creator of this reality

[pastel wigeon]

I think the thing which differ us from non living things is consciousness and soul. But some quantum phys dude says maybe a pencil have consciousness 💀

[pastel wigeon]

Tell me your pov

[thorny steeple]

I think that the only difference is the complexity of our brains

[reef burrow]

The religion of Shinto also said that everything has a conscious, this we should respect them as we respect ourselves

[pastel wigeon]

Become a cameraman iykyk 👽

[reef burrow]

vaporise

[pastel wigeon]

And that is consciousness huhh

[lime cobalt]

The only cameraman who survived.

[pastel wigeon]

It's a theory I think

[thorny steeple]

I mean, what is our brain made out of, and what is the pencil made out of? Its made of the same thing

[pastel wigeon]

Not proved

[pastel wigeon]

Oh that's pretty straight forward and logical

[reef burrow]

exactly, but I like the idea of it

[wraith sorrel]

I can help with that, we were to cut the corpus callosum between your left and right brain, which is you? Left one or the right one?

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah that's fascinating

[thorny steeple]

none is me

[pastel wigeon]

Oh I saw the video about this

[lime cobalt]

See, scary right ? So i think became flat earther is more healthy mentaly

[pastel wigeon]

Should I share it

[golden jetty]

Good luck, we're all about to team up against you with this

[pastel wigeon]

It's about what will happen when we die

[wraith sorrel]

Are you merican?

[reef burrow]

don't mention those idiots, tried debating them and they just mute me

[thorny steeple]

take a look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet/comments/1ffof24/very_important_post_the_role_religion_plays_l/

[thorny steeple]

what makes you say that?

[pastel wigeon]

Okay

[lime cobalt]

Lol, no i mean the choose ti isolate themselve from scary reality, we live in a dome

[thorny steeple]

tell me what you think after you look at it

[reef burrow]

that is next level delusional phenomenon, and I love it

[plain ruin]

Finally changed your strategy instead of claiming you can't be beaten

[wraith sorrel]

Your profile picture

[thorny steeple]

what about my profile picture makes you say that?

[wraith sorrel]

bruhhh just yes or no
Merican or not

[lime cobalt]

No i think its survival things, people who cant understand what happened tend to create something to keep sane, like religion and flat earther

[thorny steeple]

I want to know the root of that question

[wraith sorrel]

You shall never know

[reef burrow]

that needle is too big for a bundle

[thorny steeple]

Because your profile picture makes me think you are from Japan, But a haystack is more prevalent in other countries, is it not?

[reef burrow]

I can agree on that

[golden jetty]

Forget that, explain what you think of loosh

[thorny steeple]

how do you know that word?

[wraith sorrel]

I had merican friends in the past w pfp like urs

[golden jetty]

You shall never know, now answer

[lime cobalt]

Yes becouse unknown is horror

[thorny steeple]

what was theirs?

[thorny steeple]

I need to know what you think first

[reef burrow]

your pfp make me cry cause I watch the damn thing

[golden jetty]

Before I tell you, whats the root of your question

[wraith sorrel]

Potato, tomato, w white background

[golden jetty]

Im not merican dw

[thorny steeple]

I want to know what you think because you are saying the word out of the blue and I know you must have clicked the link I sent but you could not have read it that fast

[wraith sorrel]

It's a beautiful film

[reef burrow]

the fact that she didn't even died from her illness, instead being stab

[golden jetty]

Now youre thinking, consider I first read,"You should not skim around and read from start to finish", I ofc did not listen

[reef burrow]

that is some next level shit

[wraith sorrel]

Well yes

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[frozen cape]

Nf6 no matter what

[golden jetty]

Im coming to tokyo soon

[thorny steeple]

so what did you read from it?

[wraith sorrel]

Good for you

[golden jetty]

Pain and big feelings make a kind of energy, they call it loosh, that some beings collect

[reef burrow]

that's boring, come to India instead. We can give you food poisoning, train filled with people and scamming

[lime cobalt]

@feral river U speak like uncle roger or not ?

[golden jetty]

@formal pilot Ill send you pics specifically

[frozen cape]

who can i scam

[golden jetty]

I thought youre from japan

[thorny steeple]

not"some beings", same things as u,s just not harboring physical bodies

[golden jetty]

How do you know I dont live there?

[wraith sorrel]

We never know

[golden jetty]

Whats the root of your question

[reef burrow]

old people

[golden jetty]

Also read that those beings aren’t evil just using the energy, and the world keeps people in a repeat loop, sounds like some hindu shit idk

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/eid-lunch-irfans-view-youtube-tamilmil-youtube-eid-mubarak-gif-3730595171240117794

[thorny steeple]

not hindu

[golden jetty]

Ik im playing

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah I read that honestly this whole soul farm and energy thing just sounds like some overcomplicated theory people made up. it’s just talk. I’d rather not go down to that I’m good with focusing on real life stuff.

[thorny steeple]

👋

[golden jetty]

After you die, there’s a white light that seems nice, but it’s a trap that sends you back to live again

[lime cobalt]

U from india ?

[thorny steeple]

The world we live in is a sadistic playground. This is "real life stuff"

[reef burrow]

existential crises

[pastel wigeon]

Again it's a theory

[reef burrow]

guess

[thorny steeple]

what do you think about Christianity then?

[lime cobalt]

Yes u from india

[reef burrow]

eternal suffering sound harsh

[winter echo]

That's demarketing my fav country 😭

[thorny steeple]

I mean its what your doing now if your stupid

[reef burrow]

I'm pretty good at it no?

[golden jetty]

Have you read omar khayyam's thoughts on these matters?

[thorny steeple]

no

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah, I get that life can be messed up sometimes, but that doesn’t mean there’s some hidden system farming us for energy. Bad things happen that’s part of the world, not proof of some cosmic trap. I just don’t see the point of turning everything into a conspiracy.

[thorny steeple]

I dont think its a conspiracy

[reef burrow]

well christianity has some background, I guess. I'm an ex christian (salvation army), left the religion about a few months ago or so

[winter echo]

Unfortunately yes

[thorny steeple]

I mean the world is a sadistic playground and the only people who enjoy this playground are the ones who know they are playing in one

[reef burrow]

I suppose

[pastel wigeon]

I think Christianity, like most religions, has some good teachings but also a lot of stuff that doesn’t make sense to me. I respect what people believe, but it’s just not something I personally agree with.

[pastel wigeon]

Its okay

[thorny steeple]

Lots of half-truths in it

[reef burrow]

the old testament was a wild one

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah

They changed it alot

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah fr

[feral river]

Since when people would use religion to teach themselves as a trend

Aren’t today 2025 rather 1700s?

[thorny steeple]

What do you think about free will?

[feral river]

Why would in a fucking world we have modern science and philosophy but you would use some fucking fictional story book to get educated

I don’t get it

[thorny steeple]

hello

[pastel wigeon]

Personal preferences

[thorny steeple]

what do YOU think about it do you think it exists?

[pastel wigeon]

Oh goddd 😭

[hidden shore]

@lime cobalt wild animal are protected in Indonesia?

[feral river]

An ass one

[shell hemlock]

muslims has contributed a lot to science

[pastel wigeon]

What who exists

[thorny steeple]

What do you think

[reef burrow]

i think free will exist

[thorny steeple]

Do you think that there is free will on a physical level

[reef burrow]

but I can't be certain

[feral river]

Don’t say muslims it’s arabs okay ?

Arabs indeed contribute a lot on science

[hidden shore]

muslims has contributed science 😂

What a funny joke

[shell hemlock]

not all arabs are muslims

[thorny steeple]

So you disagree with his general arguments against free will?

[feral river]

You know how the fuck funny that was right but somehow it was true some ‘muslims’ did contribute to science in history

[chilly haven]

Hey everyone pls Can any one help me with eassy writing

[shell hemlock]

quick google search can prove my point

[feral river]

Every powerful civilization would tend to stay open in ideas and contribute technological development

[reef burrow]

I think some of the point he make against free will was pretty good but I do have some disagreement

[hidden shore]

@lime cobalt borneo the place that i want to go there

[feral river]

At the era they had their islamic empire that exists

[lime cobalt]

In theory, yes but in reality, it depends on the enforcement.

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah, to some extent but not fully. A lot of stuff is influenced by things we can’t controll

[feral river]

But today the fucking most powerful nation that represent most of muslims is a fucking dead hell called Iran

[thorny steeple]

what are your main disagreements

[hidden shore]

But a lot of YouTubers go there even without license? Why they are not going to jail

[golden jetty]

We shall be gone, and still the world will stay;
No sign of us, no name to mark our way.
Before we were, the world lacked nothing then;
When we are not, it will be so again -- Khayyam

[pastel wigeon]

Same

[feral river]

That’s where it begins with the new stuff

[hidden shore]

They handing snakes and reptiles those animals are protected animals

[shell hemlock]

it was muslim scholars that contributed a lot to mathematics

[thorny steeple]

I think we don't fully dont have it. We are nothing but a consciousness waiting our lives like a movie, but with the illusion of control

[hidden shore]

i can go there and handing snakes without facing enforcement, i don’t have license tho

[reef burrow]

I can't remember correctly, I will have to watch the podcast again.

[shell hemlock]

i’m not rlly a big fan of iran tbh

[hidden shore]

But in many laws and harassment and disturbance is considered criminal in wild animal protection rights

[lime cobalt]

Snakes ? I dont think snake is protected

[thorny steeple]

Okay so everything happens because of something prior and you cant control what you want

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah I get what you mean, but I still feel like we’ve got some control at least over how we react to things. like choices

[hidden shore]

Bruhhh hold on i gonna share videos

[thorny steeple]

We dont its all due to prior experiences

[hidden shore]

https://youtu.be/Oy9n1GkrwjI?si=B0xG_Dlxz8pyQiyx

[pastel wigeon]

Hmm maybe

[thorny steeple]

Theoretically, with a quantum computer, we can recall all particle movements and calculate future particle movements

[hidden shore]

You can look it up laws in Indonesia, many wild animals is protected including snakes

snakes is reptiles

[reef burrow]

life is unpredictable

[pastel wigeon]

Like mathematics huh

[thorny steeple]

in your perspective, it may be

[thorny steeple]

no actually

[pastel wigeon]

At some extent

[hidden shore]

@lime cobalt so if i go to borneo and with a local with me , i can do the same like him, in my country all wild animals is protected tho i can not touch even disturb, unless i can go to jail three years

[pastel wigeon]

It's all that. Like predictions. Data it's all just calculations

[reef burrow]

it just a point of view, we can't be certain of everything even our own thoughts

[thorny steeple]

but soon in the future, we will be able to predict every atom's movement

[pastel wigeon]

That's crazy

[pastel wigeon]

Whaaoooo

[lime cobalt]

Do you dare to mess around with a cobra?

[pastel wigeon]

That's amazing

[reef burrow]

if that is possible, I hope I get to see it

[thorny steeple]

Your soul/consciousness is just watching your life with the illusion of control, you are not you you are just watching what you think is you.

[hidden shore]

Nahh i just want to film them I won’t mess them

[pastel wigeon]

But that soul consciousness belongs to us naa so I mean huh

[hidden shore]

@lime cobalt but i look it up like mammals and reptiles species is protected , if i go there and to film video , i wont face enforcement right?

[lime cobalt]

Yup its high risk, bro

[reef burrow]

do you the hypothesis of "evil demon hypothesis" by rene descartes

[lime cobalt]

Filming is okay, why not

[thorny steeple]

But if we can use a quantum computer to resimulate and move a set of particles to their exact positions as they were in the past in a controlled area we can recreate your exact self down to the atom and brain structure and it will think its you so in that who do you think is you do you think you have the same soul?

[pastel wigeon]

That's crazy I mean huhhhh. Wait do physics allow this huhh

[thorny steeple]

Consciousness can't belong to a physical body. You are the consciousness just viewing itself through a temporary physical body that will soon rot in the ground

[reef burrow]

I'm going for now

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah enough serious chat today

[reef burrow]

bye

[thorny steeple]

dont leave

[golden jetty]

dont leave

Who are we gonna talk about loosh with

[hidden shore]

Like handing a snake or something, no problem without break Indonesian law😂

[pastel wigeon]

Brain.exe runtime error

Sorry guys gtg

[golden jetty]

Ibad no

[thorny steeple]

nahh

[thorny steeple]

dont do this

[golden jetty]

Haystack and I are gonna die alone now

This cant be happening

[lime cobalt]

handing is just fine

[pastel wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/404-gif-22163955

[thorny steeple]

@pastel wigeon Consciousness can't belong to a physical body. You are the consciousness just viewing itself through a temporary physical body that will soon rot in the ground

[thorny steeple]

bro dont do this me and @golden jetty will die

[pastel wigeon]

Then how the fuck I'm typing this msg if I don't have consciousness in me huhhhh

[golden jetty]

[pastel wigeon]

That's amazing huhh you are going to see that white light and going to be reincarnated

[thorny steeple]

Its not in you its like putting a vr headset on and saying that

[feral river]

If I cut the fuck off of your head you will have 2 conscience

[thorny steeple]

not me

[feral river]

And I kill one of that you lost one

Ofc if I add one on your fucking body you will 3 conscience

It’s nice show your left hand try to open the door while your right hand shut it off

[thorny steeple]

No my conciness will slowly fade from the physical body

[feral river]

🤣

[pastel wigeon]

I think these are the concepts you can't explain to the people it is more your inner self believes which small % are made up by society

[thorny steeple]

That can't happen

[thorny steeple]

hold on

[feral river]

Dude didn’t realize his conscience is based on brain

[pastel wigeon]

Oh goddd 😭

[feral river]

In that case what happens if it shuts down

Will the Jesus send your fucking soul to the heaven

Prove it

[pastel wigeon]

Not possible to prove

Universe will collapse

[feral river]

Or you will have 2 souls because your brain got cut off

[pastel wigeon]

Lol

[pastel wigeon]

[feral river]

It’s also true 2 conscience will happen on one person if the left brain and right brain lost connection

[pastel wigeon]

Hmmmm maybe a one divides huh

[thorny steeple]

It is attached to the brain

[feral river]

We have such technology

[pastel wigeon]

[thorny steeple]

I have another post to send you about this I just need to find it

[pastel wigeon]

Yeah it is evolving rapidly

[pastel wigeon]

[feral river]

In that case it would be fun if one believes Islam and the other one believes Judaism

But they sure lost some functions and it could work but it was lame

[thorny steeple]

do you enjoy doing that to people?

[golden jetty]

Well do you remember when we were talking about morality

[feral river]

Btw we could use another way of forcing one to get their conscience off the fucking brain to make them commit every crime even he didn’t do that

That technology ever used in our prison in Xinjiang

[thorny steeple]

what does that have to do with this

@pastel wigeon https://www.reddit.com/r/ReincarnationTruth/comments/1kgn6v9/consciousness_cannot_be_tackled_using_the_tools/

[thorny steeple]

do you enjoy killing people

[lime cobalt]

Have you ever seen a femboy who’s almost impossible to tell apart from a real woman?

[golden jetty]

Its okay nvm, the kid's a master ragebait

[thorny steeple]

wym

[thorny steeple]

a trans girl

[lime cobalt]

Why do I feel triggered? Am i okay

[thorny steeple]

why do you

[golden jetty]

@plain ruin youre late

[plain ruin]

I mean, there's many

[plain ruin]

What's up

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy?wprov=sfti1

[golden jetty]

We had a like a massive discussion, everyone left

[feral river]

Never question our technology advance for control one’s activity

[golden jetty]

Im leaving too

[plain ruin]

What was it about dawg

I did talk in between, I remember seeing you earlier

[lime cobalt]

I mean the voice also

[thorny steeple]

Good and evil don't inherently exist, and you can't prove me wrong

[golden jetty]

We'll talk later

[golden jetty]

Again?

[feral river]

None of your business

[thorny steeple]

I think it might be

[plain ruin]

Then it's a lot harder for sure, but I don't think it's impossible

[feral river]

Probably you would ask this question to our political commissar and secret police

[golden jetty]

Dont fall for the ragebait bud

[plain ruin]

Minecraft does NOT ragebait bro

[winter echo]

No wonder

[golden jetty]

No hes really good

[plain ruin]

He's a true patriot ong

[golden jetty]

I know minecraft, hes so op

[plain ruin]

I'd vote Minecraft for *insert position here*

[feral river]

Controlling one’s brain technology already researched like 10 years ago

[golden jetty]

You see, bros insane

[feral river]

Dude was lagging for a while

[plain ruin]

I think Minecraft is perceived as a ragebaiter only because he isn't as native of a speaker as we are

[winter echo]

I'd like that to happen, but I'm not sure of it's feasibility, our leaders are very greedy and and have insatiable thirst for power

Are you serious? 😊

[feral river]

You won’t become a leader if you have no thirst of power

Dude

[golden jetty]

Hes next level

[plain ruin]

Thirst for power isn't bad, it's how they use the power they "thirst" imo

[feral river]

Holding power is really satisfying, I’m already used to it

But I don’t abuse it

Use this power to serve the people

[winter echo]

Wake up from your slumber, it's never going to happen

[feral river]

Serve the people - Mao Zedong

[winter echo]

Leaks maybe

[feral river]

I would consider myself as a regular stalinist anyway

[golden jetty]

Why stalinist why not leninist?

[feral river]

I’m not very into some communist revolution across the world

I would prefer state totalitarianism with capitalist market

And Stalin’s one state socialism pretty like the national socialism which is the nazism but not really nazi

[hidden shore]

but chat GPT says It is illegal to disturb or touch wild animals in Indonesia, are you sure

[thorny steeple]

Good and evil dont exist and you cant prove me wrong

[lime cobalt]

The rule is , if u have money u can do whatever u want

[turbid ivy]

is there a pnr ban appeal

[hidden shore]

damn

[lime cobalt]

Visible or invisible.

Thats the reality man

[turbid ivy]

The best role model for humanity according to some people
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، وَأُدْخِلَتْ عَلَيْهِ وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعٍ، وَمَكَثَتْ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعًا‏.‏

Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5133

[lime cobalt]

What did u do ?

[turbid ivy]

just messed up with kaleb

[hidden shore]

without authority permit,i gonna go and a local with me, hopefully i wont go to jail or facing highly funds

i actually want to see king cobra

damn big

[lime cobalt]

[lime cobalt]

What is kaleb

[lime cobalt]

Bro try different thing

[turbid ivy]

the owner

[hidden shore]

what is this symbol, a sun?

[lime cobalt]

Go to slum in philipine

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭

[hidden shore]

why

[stone furnace]

Complete true as a muslim

[hidden shore]

why go to slum in Philippines

[lime cobalt]

I think its good content, u help people there

[hidden shore]

bruhh i am not elon musk

[stone furnace]

Guys I am a muslim I am here to ask a Christians
It is not hate question I just wanna know so the question:
Why would God (Jesus Christ) itself would d!e with his own creation?

Pls tell me just a question

[analog hound]

Yes

[hidden shore]

God's existence or not ,it is not important it does not affect how people they live their lives

[deep seal]

yess

[stone furnace]

Oh ok thanks

[hybrid herald]

Damn you still here

[analog hound]

I slept and then I woke up an hour ago

[hybrid herald]

Oh i slept and i just woke up

Kinda same

[stone furnace]

But why would God go in existence if he knows nothing will happen?

No hate speech

Not arguing

About religion

[hidden shore]

be in reality bruhh, in out human history records and including science we never see gods

dont talk nonsense and which something it does not exist

[rain depot]

Hah

[stone furnace]

So why in bible

[golden jetty]

Then would you prefer to consider yourself as a regular stalinist or khomeinist?

[hidden shore]

peopel can create any books whatever they wants, think about that in the ancient times, there is no any tech or camera,and people dont have such knowledge or education like in modern days, people absolutely lack of science or nature .Geology,Biology,Physics,Ecology , human phycology etc , too much to talk bruhh, religions which is not simply questioning god or which god, human using religion for so much ways, somepeople using a religion as a identity ,someone like cutulre, like politics, laws, policies

[frozen cape]

not a Christian but I've heard this typically answered using a verse in John

[feral river]

at least I would be smarter if I was in charge of Nazi Germany not so sure about the Soviet Union

It’s hard to manage a poor country with multiple issues and conflicts

That’s why I admire Stalin

[golden jetty]

Thats fine, but I asked whether youd consider yourself stalinist or khomeinist

[feral river]

Stalinist

[turbid ivy]

Wdym with own creation?

[hidden shore]

[golden jetty]

Why not khomeinist, arent there a lot of overlap?

[hidden shore]

I brought this shit it costs me 34 dollars

Damnn just A lil shit

my girlfriend gift to me i can not replcae it

[feral river]

You know if somebody catch you if you are watching some anti-CCP shit they could get you in jail right

[hidden shore]

why

yeah i will considering it about OLED

i dont know

i will use this old monitor for a few years until my girlfriend say i can buy a new one

[feral river]

The only difference between TV and PC to me was the distance between you and the device as well as your position

I would never try to watch some long piece of shit on my pc

And I can’t get a comfortable position

[hidden shore]

nah i dont like it, it makes me so uncomfortable by using it side by side

[high rapids]

Lets burn there books again

[hidden shore]

[high rapids]

[nimble wyvern]

Hi

[feral river]

me

mainly CS PUBG

[high rapids]

well played

[rain depot]

[turbid ivy]

Where did she go

[zinc cape]

Hey

[hidden shore]

What kinda model is this car

[nimble wyvern]

Sorry out of context: The streets are like the anime more than anime

[cerulean pivot]

WhatsApp car

[prisma cipher]

Looking like another city where Zelensky make a selfie now Russian.

[winter echo]

Which city is this?

[winter echo]

This car doesn't belong in this neighborhood, are you sure it's not photoshopped?

[hidden shore]

Anti terrorists

What about this car bulletproof

[winter echo]

Up until 19th century it's normal for people to get married at that age,
What are you on?

[turbid ivy]

Oh and you are saying those uneducated people are better than muhammad or his all knowing God?

[prisma cipher]

Покровск

[hidden shore]

[winter echo]

Didn't you see the insatiable part?

[lethal anchor]

Church of God ministry of Jesus Christ international there connections to CIA are attempting kill me and make loot of health issues Stop funding churches their banks are connected to the government they’ve been violating privacy through individuals within to run up money through the court system and to manipulate to create illsuion that God uses them. The major churches are connected to politics and use congregants to affect political affairs. They keep funding Israel. Check my insta johnm3_1

[thorny steeple]

Good and evil don't inherently exist and you can't prove me wrong

[winter echo]

Uneducated, you said?
Those so called uneducated people lay the foundation of everything you're enjoying that makes your much more convenient.
Also don't even start talking to me about your perceived morality

[thorny steeple]

I need a job

[high rapids]

OK

[thorny steeple]

I might

Why do you want to know

what would it explain

[glossy ether]

dead chat

[cobalt comet]

In the old testament, there's one chapter wherein God says
them to give 70 offerings in one week, but not all on one day,
but rather, give 13 on day 1, 12 on day 2, 11 on day 3,
10 on day 4, 9 on day 5, 8 on day 6, 7 on day 7.
That's a staircase number, or a polite number.
The number 70 has staircase of 7 steps.
The number 777 has seven distinct staircases.
God is very well familiar with staircase numbers.
Total verses in the Bible, 31102, is a staircase number,
and has only one staircase. 31,102 = 7774 + 7775 + 7776 + 7777.
Bible says God knows the end from the beginning!

[thorny steeple]

so no free will?

[cobalt comet]

God is so great that, he gave us free will but can still know our choices and the ending from the very start.

[plain ruin]

Say it bro...

[glossy ether]

@tsdead

[plain ruin]

ong 💔💔

i might vc from this week, things have started coming through

[thorny steeple]

so why did he design this place as a sadistic playground where animals and humans die brutal deaths every second

[surreal glen]

I have many jokes about unemployed people—sadly, none of them work.

[cobalt comet]

he had desined it all perfect. God made the world in six days and rested on the seventh.

[glossy ether]

lets goooo

[thorny steeple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet/comments/1ffof24/very_important_post_the_role_religion_plays_l/

[thorny steeple]

dont be an idiot

[cobalt comet]

no for real, God had designed it all perfect.
There was no death or decay in the garden of Eden.
God had never intended man to know good and eivl.
Because God knew that man, though made in God's image, was not GOd.
Only God could know good and evil and still not be tempted.
God ate from that fruit every day, in front of Adam.
Just to remind him to not think too highly of himself, cause, though very like God in every regard, Adam could not eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil and live.
But then Adam sinned, and ate it.
You see, we are unique in that we are created in the image of God.
An angel is not in that regard. Once an angel has known good and evil, it can never choose good; so great is the temptation.
But man, created in God's image, could know good and evil and still choose good.
It's just that, no image is perfect replica of the original.
So every man that ever lived, though knew to do good always, has done evil at least once in life.
Except one man, the God Man Jesus Christ.

[thorny steeple]

read what ive sent

[prisma cipher]

Human body isn't perfect tho

[thorny steeple]

Whats perfect is subective

[thorny steeple]

Good and evil dont exist can you prove me wrong?

[prisma cipher]

Yes but not in that case

[thorny steeple]

this guy is an idiot

[prisma cipher]

The respiratory system is designed in such a way that the esophagus is connected to the breathing system, which is why a person can choke while eating. This isn't an ideal system. It would be made separate and human can yet and breath at the same time.

[cobalt comet]

you guys are not understanding.
Once Adam fell and sin came in the world, God's perfect creation was ruined.
And that's how we get here. Everything sucks. Plants die in weeks. This was not how it was originally.

[thorny steeple]

this is a sadistic playground designed for emotional and physical pain and suffering you can enjoy it if you know how to play on the playground

[thorny steeple]

do you think that good and evil exist yes or no

[prisma cipher]

Got it

[cobalt comet]

yes, but before i became a christian an year ago, i was in the same boat, and would have debated and defeated a thousand christians and proved that good and evil was subjective, that god was an illusion, that world was billions of years old, and that christianity was the worst religion that had done more harm to the world than good, like inquisition, witchhunts, suppression of science, etc. Now i know that, boy was i hypnotized all those years... Jesus is my creator.

btw, i was an often visitor of the prisonplanet sub, and believed in aliens, and bunch of other things too.

[thorny steeple]

well we are not in the same boat and you were a hypnotized idiot then and you are one now

[thorny steeple]

This world has a creator and Christianity is full of half truths

[thorny steeple]

You will die and see whatever religion you believe in and any loved ones who have died before you and yu will follow whatever Jesus figure into a white light being farmed for loosh and the soul/consciousness just comes back in another physical body to endure more pain in this meat bag

[thorny steeple]

And aliens are a simple probability thing, there is obviously other life outside of earth even if its microbial life

[cobalt comet]

yes, brother, but we gotta weigh and compare the evidence of different propositions.
One one hand:

• prison planet,
• aliens,
• new age,
• every other religoin,
• science that says universe came from big bang came from nothing.
  and on the other hand,
• christianity.
  Weigh the evidence and make the rational choice.

The evidence for first is trash.
The evidence for Christianity has made this man, me, a humble believer of God who now repents and is deeply sorry for cursing God all my life and pretending all my life like he was a lie...

[thorny steeple]

And Christianity just looks like a trap to me all relgion does

[manic juniper]

Snakes fixed this by developing the glottis

If you have ever seen a snake eat you probably saw how it looks like

[thorny steeple]

but walk into that white light like the idiot that you are dont you see that the creator of this reality is sadistic

loosh farm

[cobalt comet]

@thorny steeple what's the evidence for prison-planet?
And then i'll show the evidence for Jesus being the Christ the Son of God, who died and ressurected for sinners like you and me.

[thorny steeple]

there is no such thing as a sinner

[thorny steeple]

let me ask you this do you think you are being saved from hell?

[turbid ivy]

Such as?

[wary oak]

Prison planet is as old as the Old Testament

Fyi

[thorny steeple]

comes from gnosticism but even some of the stuff in the main Prison planet idea is non sense I have filterd it all out into what makes sense and this place is a loosh farm

[cobalt comet]

i did sins, sins which I had a big feeling in my mind that it was wrong, but i've done those sins anyway.
And God is a good God.
A good God hates sin.
A good God must punish sin or he's not just.
The greater a man's love for his wife, the greater his anger toward a thief who broke in and killed her and stole her necklace.
God loves goodness and good people so much that, he has to punish evil.
And I've fallen short of that.

But Jesus never sinned ever.
And yet, he was chastized for our sins, was bruised for our iniquities.
And by his stripes, you are healed. By his blood, you are redeemed.

[thorny steeple]

So why did he create sin

[cobalt comet]

He did not ever intend man to know what sin was.
God had not wanted Adam to know good and evil.

[thorny steeple]

free will does not exist

Everything happens because of something prior

[wary oak]

You ever do something and someone else does something almost as a reaction

U sit down next to them and they put their phone down or take a sip of water or something

Mind controlled

[thorny steeple]

What do you think of loosh

[wary oak]

I forgot what loosh is

Isnt it our energy ?

[thorny steeple]

this is a loosh farm so yea, all the traumatic energy but if you see everything as neutral its impossible to be traumatized

[cobalt comet]

everything has an effect on us, but the final decision is still ours.
Bible says, and my interpretation is,
say, you have an alcoholic parent.
The demons would latch on and stay in the family for three generations.
But what that means is, there will be greater temptation to drink alcohol if you were that child.
But the final decision is still yours, and you would be guilty of committing that sin, not the demons alone.
The demons can't do any black magic on their own. They need a human to command them to do so.
Man sins, by his own violition.
And yes, some can sin so much and yield themselves so much that they're effectively possessed by the demons they've so long entertained, and then, it seems as though it's not them but the demons doing everything through, but the first time, the door to those demons was opened by them by their own clear rational mind, under full soberity. So yeah, man sins.

[fresh flower]

Wagwan bro

I got a question for you

[thorny steeple]

I think you are the way you are now because of fear; you are nothing but a scared kid

[cobalt comet]

I'm 25.
Such a shame that it took me 24 years to discover the evidences for Christ.
Problem was, i was so close minded that i never bothered to give christianity any chance.
Anything i would give a fair research, say, astrology, shadow pepole, aliens, but this Christ, I just knew, was a made up story, lol.
So wrong was i.

[manic juniper]

He asked why god created it

[wary oak]

What happened to make you believe

[thorny steeple]

I was born a Christian. I was like you when I was a young kid and became smarter, and just looked around and saw that the Christian god was bullshit, You are reverting, man I will get to live the rest of my life mentaly free you will be locked in thoes chains

[cobalt comet]

ten days after trump assassination, i was watching this far-right youtuber (which now i do not condone very much), and in the last ten seconds he showed the clip of this prophet Brandon Biggs.

I could never imagine such accuracy out of any prediction method. I was doing astrology for free on discord, and my readings were always only, say, 70 percent accurate. And future prediction kinda astrology, i never even tried.

And I had known about phsychcs and mediums, but their efficiencies were low too, though, very impressive. Like, they could predict the digits on the paper bill you be carryiing in your pocket.

But boy did this man of God predict Trump bullet hitting so close to his ear that it bust his eardrum, and then he falls on his knees, and becomes radically born again, and wins the election, and then there's a planned economic crash with trump weeping in the white house, making intercession and prayers for the continents, etc etc.

[wary oak]

Oh my god man

[cobalt comet]

Then I researched all the months, about Christianity, and proof after proof, I was sold!

[wary oak]

Cmon dude stop

Youre larping so hard

Ridiculous idk why I even asked

Ridiculous

[neon sierra]

whats more beatiful than believing in God

[thorny steeple]

'You will believe it if you want to believe it

[south mesa]

Christianity is bullshit, ur js believing it cause ur scared abt all these jesus died for our sins things

[thorny steeple]

Sounds like you were into a load of shit then and a load of shit now

[cobalt comet]

what chains?
Sins are chains.
The wages of sins is death.
But thanks to the holy spirit which we have recieved thanks to what Jesus did on the cross, I can walk in freedom from sin and live happily and with peace of mind that I have been forgiven, cause Jesus has been risen!

[thorny steeple]

Christianity is full of half-truths. There is still something to learn and take from it but then you move on

[fresh flower]

"I became smarter"

[neon sierra]

if you dont mind me asking, what do you believe in?

[thorny steeple]

Jesus could have been a serial killer for all you know. How do you not see how tricked you are, you were this same way when you were into astrology and now that you are into chrisianity you are like this what is it going to be next man

[wary oak]

Bro basically said he spent his time listening to alt right Christian media and then became a believer like cmon

[cobalt comet]

God did not create evil per se.
God created good, and everything he created in those six days, was "good".
On day six, he created man,, and called it, "very good".
And gave him dominion over everything he had created.
Man was created so powerful and so much above angels, that,
Adam would even think that he was God, cause everything creative God could do, Adam could also.
Except for this fruit, which God would eat in Adam's presence everyday, which Adam couldn't.
Kept Adam humble.
And then Adam fell.
And then sin was created and entered into the world in loads of quantities...

Also, maybe, if God created good, the opposite becomes evil and becomes "implicitly created"?

nevermind

[south mesa]

Islam, but don't get me wrong, I don't think ts is a 10/10 religion as well

[thorny steeple]

good and evil dont exist

[wary oak]

Evil can be demonstrated in nature

[thorny steeple]

You are just as crazy as him

[wary oak]

Look up Chimpanzees shredding their friends of 10 years apart over land disputes

Eating babies out of a womb and shit

[south mesa]

Ik. I should have know more things abt religions

[thorny steeple]

your time is now https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet/comments/1ffof24/very_important_post_the_role_religion_plays_l/

[wary oak]

Ok but prison planet theory is actually full schizophrenic

[thorny steeple]

I filter out things

[wary oak]

But

[keen storm]

Hello guys how are you there

[thorny steeple]

to what the real truth is and its simple really

[wary oak]

The kernal that may be accurate is that god is an alien

[south mesa]

Tell me more abt this

[wary oak]

our interpretation of god is actually some aliens that came to earth like 5000 years ago now we’re more advanced and theyre matching our technology

[keen storm]

What the subject her

[wary oak]

by flying around in those little drones / uaps

[turbid ivy]

i see.. how are your sins forgiven?

[fresh flower]

Schizophrenic chat

[cobalt comet]

exactly

[wary oak]

Nah just theorizing

It’s about as believable as everything else

[cobalt comet]

Islam even says, God has no son, and that it's outrageous to suggest that God has a son, cause God has no need for a son.

[south mesa]

In islam, u do pray to god for forgive ur sins

[lime cobalt]

Who love mini trump ?

[fresh flower]

Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar
Ashhadu an la ilaha illallah, Ashhadu an la ilaha illallah
Ashhadu anna Muhammadar rasulullah, Ashhadu anna Muhammadar rasulullah
Hayya 'alas salah, Hayya 'alas salah
Hayya 'alal falah, Hayya 'alal falah
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar
La ilaha illallah

[keen storm]

This is true

[south mesa]

Aren't u guys calling god as a father

[turbid ivy]

Not exactly,,
This is how your sins are fogiven

[keen storm]

Alhamdulillah brother

[wary oak]

Are u swedish

checks out tbh

[fresh flower]

Fr

[wary oak]

Wait are u though

[fresh flower]

Yeah

I'm not Muslim tho I'm just schizoposting since everyone else also is

[wary oak]

https://tenor.com/view/hjalmar-jaaa-viking-vikinger-vikings-gif-22048459

Oh lol

[fresh flower]

TAKBIR ☝🏻

[south mesa]

A non muslim btw💔

[turbid ivy]

So God is not just?

[fresh flower]

Are you Turkish or Kurdish

[keen storm]

I thought you are a Muslim man

[south mesa]

Turkish

[fresh flower]

In this channel I am bro, too many atheists here so I'm Shia-Muslim to balance it out

[cobalt comet]

hindus believe that washing in a river named ghanga washes away all sins.

[turbid ivy]

The sins of a muslim are forgiven through the human sacrifice of a jew or a christian

[south mesa]

The god forgive all ur sins in islam if u truly sorry abt them

[fresh flower]

Nobu when will you stop making things up

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g2tf3NSzN9o

America need more censorship on American people

it's time to make America an anthoritarian state

[turbid ivy]

I see.. so if he would truly forgive your sins just being sorry, why there be a human sacrifice?

[cobalt comet]

KJV bible has 7 to the power of 7 words.

The first and the last verses have the same number of letters,
vowels, consonants.
In the first and last verses, the first and last words of those
verses occur seven times.

who's going to verify this? I can bet this is true.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth.
and
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. AMen.

count the letters and vowels.

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-handshak-handshake-khar-gif-26201999

[cobalt comet]

44 letters in both first and last verses.

i'm still counting the vowels... wait.

16 vowels.

[keen storm]

"Today, in this age, Islam is the true religion. Although all religions were revealed by God over different time periods and to different prophets—each religion having its own prophet—it culminated with Islam, which was brought by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to gather all the teachings of the past religions. Therefore, the Islamic religion is the religion of truth, and God is the One, the Indivisible, and Muhammad is the servant and Messenger of God."

[south mesa]

According to the Quran, you can ask for forgiveness To god until your last day on earth. But God says some people refuse to ask for forgiveness for their sins. So when they die, the god punishes them. But in everyday life, god doesn't punish you directly.

[wary oak]

🤣

[turbid ivy]

i see. how islam is true religion?

[turbid ivy]

Aha.. so he forgives based on human sacrifice because that's what muhammad said in the hadith

[south mesa]

U can say that

[keen storm]

As for the divine books, the Quran is the speech of Allah which He revealed to His servant Muhammad, peace be upon him.

[turbid ivy]

And you critiquing the Christian idea of sacrifice when you have more sacrifices in islam?

[turbid ivy]

What makes islam a true religion?

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[wary oak]

Once they actually start being peaceful i might believe it is

[keen storm]

There are many facts you should delve into.

[turbid ivy]

Such as? 🤔

[keen storm]

Were you created from nothing?

[cobalt comet]

Jesus literally said "i'm the beginning and the end, the alpha
and the omega, the first and the last".
The first and last words (totaling 7 letters) of the first and
last verses occur in the bible, 77777 times!

Jesus said to forgive your brother "not unto seven times, but
unto seventy times seven".
His name is the only word that occurs the same number of times
in odd and even books of the new testament: 70x7 times.

980 (70x7 + 70x7, cause "double it and give it to him as his portion"),
the perfect forgiveness of sins, occurs in the digits of
pi for the first time on digit 777+777 (which is how many
times Jesus+Christ occurs in the bible (pure mentions only, ie,
not counting the three anti-mentions of jesus, ie, "jesus which
is called Justus", "some magician soccerer called jesus" and
"if Jesus the Joshua of old testament gave them rest,
will he not have spoken of another rest").

The first word of the hebrew bible ('in the beginning'),
it's ordinal (nope, standard) (cause in hebrew, letters are
also numbers) occurs in the first 7 to the power of 7 digits
of Phi the golden ratio, guess how many times? 777 times!
And the 777th time it occurs is literally on the 7 to the
power of 7th digit of Phi!

[winter echo]

Just learned an interesting term called the Cobra effect

[south mesa]

Nah I found some christian idea stupid cause they say jesus is a god as well.

[wary oak]

Let me guess

[wary oak]

Youre protestant

[turbid ivy]

Created from prior matter

[keen storm]

I cannot shorten the discussion because the topic requires seriousness and a lot of focus.

[turbid ivy]

Okay. Do you believe the word of Allah is eternal and inseperable from Allah?

[south mesa]

Yep

[turbid ivy]

it does

[cobalt comet]

yes, protestant pentecoastal etc, but i have no real church to go to, though, i'm one of the the only in my city lol

[turbid ivy]

Okay, is Jesus the word of Allah?

[south mesa]

Yeah

[wary oak]

I find protestants to be heavily misguided

Catholics actually stand for something

[gloomy frost]

Well, Do you have any proof that it is the "true" religion, Even if it is, Your "truth" is based on assumptions anyways.

[cobalt comet]

yes, thanks to catholics for preserving the Shroud of Turin, and allowing hundreads of scientists to do experiments on the Shroud...

[turbid ivy]

the word of allah = uncreated and inseparable from allah, Jesus = word of Allah.. therefore it would follow from transitivity that Jesus = uncreated and insperable from allah

[keen storm]

From the Quran and Sunnah
This is what I believe

[cobalt comet]

The fifth book of the old testament, Deutrotomy 16:11, has
the 1611th mention of the word "LORD", "rejoice in the LORD,
ye, your sons, your daughters, your servants, in the place
where He chooses to put his name".
The fifth book of the new testament Acts 16:11 contains the
1611th mention of the word "day", and the three cities
mentioned lie on a straight line, the middle one (an island)
has a height of 1611 meters on wikipedia, and the three
cities point straight to London, where the KJV Bible which
for the first time differentiated LORD from Lord, was printed
for the first time, in year 1611! And on that little boat
is the gospel travelling to Europe for the first time,
with
authors of 16 books of the new testament on that very boat,
and 11 not.

the 1611 bible, called the kjv bible, is the most printed book in the world, with one billion printed, hthough, now harry potter has overtaken it though

took seven years to translate the bible; much of the work was reused from tyndale.

[south mesa]

According to what? Bro I never said jesus is uncreated. I js want u to tell me that how u guys believing that jesus is a god as well

[shy summit]

Oh boy…

[hybrid herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1327725629243916369.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=evilcat

[glossy ether]

tell me about it bro

all they do is yap in here

[keen storm]

That's what I'm talking about
How can Jesus, peace be upon him, be God, the Father, and the Son at the same time?
Jesus, peace be upon him, is a prophet, and God raised him to Himself, and his mother is the Virgin Mary. That is all there is to it.

[spice bobcat]

The numerologists have infested the bible

John 11:35

[cobalt comet]

the height of samatrocia the mountain island, is 1611 meters on wikipedia.
Even that is an infestation by the christians?

[hybrid herald]

The bot doesn't work here anymore

Due to spamming

[cobalt comet]

search Shroud Studies on youtube, and tell me,
are those red blood stains upon that cloth not enough evidence that Jesus died for you, and rose again by what scientists hypothize was, a billion watts of light for a very short duration that imprinted the 3d negative image of Jesus upon that cloth.

[wary oak]

You’re just so

[violet viper]

guyyyyyssss

guyssssss

[wary oak]

Gullible

[stray lion]

@cobalt comet cool pfp

[violet viper]

i need some helppppp

[high rapids]

ok

How can i help you?

[south mesa]

Jesus is the son of god? This is bullshit. How can the god, creator of everything can have a son? The god is not a human. So god can't have a wife, son or daughter. U guys can't even give me a proper answer

[cobalt comet]

bible says "is anything too hard for the Lord"?
"does God's hand wax short"?

Jesus is the right hand of God, the mighty hand that hath gotten Him the victory.

[south mesa]

He said that god is a father.

[glossy ether]

omg sanna i need to tell youu i’m a trainee solicitor now

[gloomy frost]

Ahh, Those are just books, It's like saying spider man is real because it is made in real life places and It is written in an old book, Which it is, Just because it's a book, It doesn't prove it is true.

[glossy ether]

[cobalt comet]

It was for our sakes that God took on this triune nature.
Cause God knew that Adam would sin,
And so Jesus decided to be a man, so that one day, in the distant future,
He be able to take birth on Earth and ride to Jerusalem on a donkey and die their for our sins,
and reconcile the whole humanity to God.

[wary oak]

Stupid question, he can do whatever the fuck he wants as he’s all knowing

[stray lion]

Don't be smug in your words, if you want make a question, do it without presumption ("this is bullshit").

The Son begets the Father, Jesus is God manifestation in flesh and bone, and He came in time, unlikely the Father (Himself yet, but as will, the Creator).

[wary oak]

It’s like asking why would an admin in a minecraft server play the game

[frozen cape]

Don't ruin my fantasies bro 😔

[wary oak]

cause they can bro

[turbid ivy]

When you say Jesus is the word of Allah, that's what it emplies

[south mesa]

This is more stupid things to say

[winter echo]

@turbid ivy you might find this useful
https://youtube.com/shorts/8nfe147reS4?si=mvaRRY-mohxfheMX

[wary oak]

You’re saying why would he he’s god? What if he wanted to OMEGALUL

[south mesa]

Sorry abt what I said. I js got angry cause they kept sending me words from bible

[turbid ivy]

That's not what we mean when you say Jesus is the son..

[glossy ether]

tyyyyyy