🧠｜serious-chat

[golden jetty]

Ruthenia my ancestors

[manic juniper]

Are you one of those Ukrainian descent people living in Manitoba

[golden jetty]

Not at all, also fyi they live in alberta

[manic juniper]

Ah, those I know live in Manitoba but I guess they aren't as common

Alberta is better anyway

[formal pilot]

Still it was quite old

[golden jetty]

350k ukrainians in alberta

[golden jetty]

Much better bud

Manitoba is a dumpster

[formal pilot]

And yes the earliest humans in Europe must have darker skin colour but over time it became fair

[uncut tiger]

look how the tables have turned

well well well

[golden jetty]

Early european looked like one of those blue eyed giga chad looking indians

[formal pilot]

I'm not sure about blue eyes

[plain ruin]

blue eyes?

[formal pilot]

Hypnotize

[plain ruin]

What indians are you talking about

Huh

[formal pilot]

Epic fail

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭

[formal pilot]

I haven't met anyone with green eyes yet

[patent cape]

https://www.fiverr.com/s/5r3GQwv

[plain ruin]

Bro is advertising his freelance work in the racist chat...

[golden jetty]

https://www.livescience.com/42841-images-ancient-european-hunter-gatherer.html

[manic juniper]

This is when they migrated but those genes probably originated around 30k years ago, mainly carried by the Near Eastern Neolithic farmers and Eastern hunter-gatherers

They're quite a recent development at least in Europe, before then people had darker skin

[patent cape]

what u guys a rasict

[plain ruin]

You said "blue eyed giga chad looking indians"
Blue eyes? Indians?

[formal pilot]

Blue eyes genes aren't that dominant, this sketch is surely based on false assumptions

[manic juniper]

Yes, fugg Winnipeg

[plain ruin]

#🧠｜serious-chat is 99% just racists and funny people, no one's going to take it seriously

[golden jetty]

Im mostly messing around

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-nato-russia-vladimir-vladimir-putin-gif-13707825506315371638

[golden jetty]

Im afraid you might be colour blind, jk

[patent cape]

so why tf is it called serious- chat the hello

[golden jetty]

It is what it is

We're human

[plain ruin]

To talk about serious topics, that's the thing, people treat being racist and funny as serious

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-happy-dance-happy-birthday-happy-birthday-to-you-gif-14641296808833921829

[formal pilot]

Sure, this map still gives an idea about why lighter colors developed in some part of the world

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/schnitzel-cutlet-escalope-trendizisst-gif-4289266273828008681

[high rapids]

that´s me after russia conquers ukraine

[golden jetty]

You love this map dont you

[patent cape]

omd

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[patent cape]

get a load of these guys

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

[formal pilot]

I love this more

[golden jetty]

Wow

[manic juniper]

I think the North Siberians evolved or inherited the same skin colour but current Siberians are a more recent population, it's why most of them don't have blonde hair (which also first appeared there)

[uncut tiger]

I also love a particular map

let me send it here

[golden jetty]

Fuck aladdin look at brazil

[manic juniper]

Current Siberians are a result of nomadic migrations

[uncut tiger]

MY FAVORITE MAP

damn why bro laughing

get ragebaited bro

take the bait

[formal pilot]

How did you get it

[uncut tiger]

you know how

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/mam-you-dont-have-to-redeem-it-gif-7406184892679262325

[plain ruin]

Seems like the data points to...

[manic juniper]

Congratulations to Australia 🌏🦘

[golden jetty]

One of you guys hurry up and make me chamomile tea i want to slumber

[golden jetty]

For what

[plain ruin]

Ngl atleasst they could've made Haryana 50%, Gurugram is where most of the Scam HQs are

[golden jetty]

Delhi is

[formal pilot]

Why did humans develop blonde hair

Everything was working optimally before it

[golden jetty]

Good question, why

[manic juniper]

It looks good to many people

[plain ruin]

No bro, they get caught too easily there iirc

[manic juniper]

Maybe it was associated with better fitness once

[golden jetty]

Mumbai

[manic juniper]

Doesn't seem the case anymore

[golden jetty]

Bruh

[formal pilot]

I uploaded that picture on my potential satire based news company instagram page, and he took the ss

[plain ruin]

I think it also has something to do with melanin

[manic juniper]

For example peacocks with huge tails are more powerful than those with smaller tails

[golden jetty]

Its not simple with humans

[plain ruin]

Bro made his own state the highest...

[manic juniper]

I guess it's possible that the first few blonds were significantly powerful and they convinced other Asians that it was worth it to have blonde hair

[formal pilot]

Am i allowed to ping Nobu to this message and say he got a small peacock

[surreal glen]

they are also thick meat

[manic juniper]

Why not

[golden jetty]

Faisalabad is scammer central

[manic juniper]

It's even more difficult with ancient ooga booga humans

[plain ruin]

Not just beauty alone

[golden jetty]

Ancient ooga booga humans loved Weihenstephaner

[golden jetty]

No wonder I have blonde hair

[surreal glen]

?def blond hair

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[manic juniper]

But blonde hair use a more rare type of melanin, and they aren't really tied to lighter skin. Look up blonde Melanesians

[cursive bobcat]

Word: blond

Definition 1 (noun): a light grayish yellow to near white
Definition 2 (noun): a person with fair skin and hair
Definition 3 (adjective): being or having light colored skin and hair and usually blue or grey eyes

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by leafseed

[golden jetty]

Bruh thats not a single word

[plain ruin]

This is a picture of @fresh flower, he has Blonde hair

[surreal glen]

yeah i undestood

[manic juniper]

It became selectively widespread only recently

[golden jetty]

That looks something between me and olivander the fourth

[surreal glen]

ohh i see

[golden jetty]

If we had a child it would look like that

[surreal glen]

i have brwn hairs

[manic juniper]

From an objective standpoint red hair are useless and blonde hair even more so

[surreal glen]

[formal pilot]

Basically, those of flaxen hair did prosper more in the begetting of offspring, their lineage waxing full and fruitful above others

That's how natural selection works

[manic juniper]

It's the same as lighter eyes, there is no explanation as to why they would be beneficial. Even the increased vision at low light is a myth

[formal pilot]

My best friend in 6th grade argued nails are vestigial organs

[plain ruin]

I looked it up quickly and it suggests a "different cause" of blondness, to my knowledge blondeness becoming a trait was linked to teh skin trait

Idk tho, I just remember what I heard before

[manic juniper]

It evolved independently

[formal pilot]

Blonde is more common in children than adults
I wonder why they say bad things about wikipedia

[plain ruin]

In a different allele too

[manic juniper]

Btw we don't have a lot of pheomelanin in the skin either, that's what causes blonde or red hair

It would make your skin more red or yellow

[plain ruin]

I mean yeah? Most blonde hair goes brown-black with age, now I KNOW that's true😭

[golden jetty]

Blonde hair comes from russia

[manic juniper]

There are people with a more pinkish hue but that's more common in Central Europe

[golden jetty]

Eastern europeans spread blonde hair gene to the rest of europe and by extension the world

[plain ruin]

Sukaaaaa

[manic juniper]

No it was North Asians who had it first, in Siberia

[golden jetty]

Siberia is russia

[manic juniper]

But it's not Eastern Europe

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/absolut-vodka-vodka-ice-gif-2291577456855729249

[manic juniper]

Those are posers

[golden jetty]

Bonde hair gene comes from siberia way back, then when it made to eastern europe the people there spread it to the world

Chad genes💪

[manic juniper]

Did they, Siberia and Central Asia were connected

[golden jetty]

Only the kazakhstan part

[manic juniper]

This would allow blonde hair to spread too

[golden jetty]

They went westward through russia quickly

Corded Ware culture spread blonde hair to the world

[formal pilot]

Back in the day we used to bully blonde

[golden jetty]

And now today, we bully gingers

Blonde is now the new superior

[formal pilot]

Oliver cannot be superior

[plain ruin]

Do we have any Czechs here

[golden jetty]

Black people highlight their hair blonde, thats how you know

[golden jetty]

*Olivander

Hes a g

[plain ruin]

That's blonde women not men, revise your discrimination bro

[golden jetty]

Nope, too busy in the adult industry

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/prempdr-fc-mobile-fifa-gif-16778760554072111618

[manic juniper]

They still do

[thorny steeple]

hi

[manic juniper]

Even in blonde majority countries they say other countries are more blonde, just so they can be racist towards them

[hoary glen]

Everything can be racist

[golden jetty]

What are your opnions on finland?

[manic juniper]

Flat

[formal pilot]

What are the most advantageous genetic traits a person can be born with

[golden jetty]

Is it cuz they're blonde?

And in fact, the most blonde country

[manic juniper]

No it's just flat, western neighbours were luckier

[magic olive]

Becoming vegan is the healthiest lifestyle
Change my mind

[manic juniper]

And they are nearly as blonde

[magic olive]

[last geyser]

Hello / 你好 / Hola / नमस्ते / Bonjour / مرحبا / হ্যালো / Olá / Здравствуйте / سلام / Halo / Hallo / こんにちは / Hello / أهلاً / नमस्कार / నమస్కారం / Selam / வணக்கம் / Xin chào

[gloomy perch]

OMG

[golden jetty]

A vegan diet can be unhealthy if it relies on processed foods

[last geyser]

Yeah

[gloomy perch]

[last geyser]

Lets note it

[gloomy perch]

Yes I did

[magic olive]

In comparison with the junk food, would you still say the same?

[last geyser]

Perfect, Where are u from

[manic juniper]

Idk it depends on where they live, generally no hereditary diseases, black eyes, brown or black hair (but shouldn't make too big of a difference)
If out of Africa or South Asia they can afford a tinier body since there are no predators

[formal pilot]

It's not the optimal way to end animal suffering, we should protest for better laws around slaughtering and farming

[gloomy perch]

Asia

[magic olive]

Especially not on discord platforms, riyal

[last geyser]

Whichone From 100 country

[golden jetty]

Youre the blonde one

[hoary glen]

Yeah, I think so too.
Today: First day of veganism
Tomorrow: First day of veganism
…

[golden jetty]

Youre so halal buddy

[manic juniper]

But way more flat

[gloomy perch]

India what about you?

[magic olive]

lmao

[last geyser]

Turkiye

[golden jetty]

Unlike me

[golden jetty]

*Turkey

[last geyser]

We changed it

In 2022

[manic juniper]

You're in Canada it'd be worrisome if Canada was flat and that big

[golden jetty]

Kanka in english we say turkey

[manic juniper]

What would Canada even be about if it looked like that

[golden jetty]

Id shit my pants youre right

[golden jetty]

It would be saskatchewan bud

[last geyser]

We know kanka but. Turkey's mean = 🦃 Thats why we changed it

[formal pilot]

Well, lactose tolerance might be up there, there are some mutations which will make cells resistant to HIV

[golden jetty]

No arkadas turkey means doner and adana kebap

[manic juniper]

Does it have any downsides

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-istanbul-cappadocia-hagia-sophia-grand-bazaar-gif-3174312639827306054

[last geyser]

HAHSHQHSQHJD Thanks bro. I think we have talked before about polonezkoy

[manic juniper]

Resistance to malaria does for example

[gloomy perch]

Oh it changed recently

[golden jetty]

Maybe

[last geyser]

Not maybe. Its probably

Wait.. Both means same

My bad

[formal pilot]

Yes, Sickle cell
No I'm not aware of any downsides

I haven't read it properly

[manic juniper]

We don't even need to sweat to survive in most parts of the world

[golden jetty]

I accept your apology, now take me to Strada in bagdat caddesi

[manic juniper]

We can ditch skin colour altogether if people had hair all over the body

[last geyser]

Where is it bro

I know bagdat street but

[manic juniper]

Most chimps are white anyway

[last geyser]

I dont know Strada

[golden jetty]

https://share.google/KzZlvkjriOZuT4zEI

[manic juniper]

Strada means street

[last geyser]

This is very expensive thats why I didnt heard it

[manic juniper]

Or better, road

[last geyser]

Okay thank u

[golden jetty]

Yeah I know lol, Ill pay kanka

Order kahve

[last geyser]

Okey then

[formal pilot]

The world would be better if some people didn't sweat

[golden jetty]

Because of the smell of odor?

[last geyser]

Its like a joke... I am from Turkiye but We Turks cannot visit our good places because of economy

Peh

[formal pilot]

Yes

[spice bobcat]

Friendly fire

[golden jetty]

I know man I know, we should all just listen to ibrahim tatlises until it gets better

[last geyser]

HAHSHAHAHS Lets just listen " Dom Dom Kursunu " from him

[plain ruin]

Neanderthal propaganda

[formal pilot]

There's a mutation in the BDNF gene (Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor) which does have some positive traits but downside can be severe

[golden jetty]

East asian odor doesnt have any smell, on the other hand african odor is the most potent, everyone else is somewhere in the middle

This is scientifically proven lol

[formal pilot]

It's more like turkish/ greek propaganda

[formal pilot]

Why

[golden jetty]

No idea

[plain ruin]

No bro, Neanderthal
I remember reading about how Europeans have more % of neanderthal ancestry than africans do

[golden jetty]

Deadass deoderant is so hard to get in south korea and japan and shit cuz people's sweat dont smell

[plain ruin]

Hmmmmmm

[formal pilot]

Give a crack to research papers from 80 years ago

[plain ruin]

Only one person here is going to take those papers seriously 😂

[formal pilot]

I was expecting an evolutionary reason lol

[formal pilot]

It's hard to believe how homo sapiens outsmarted Neanderthals

They were superior in nearly every trait

[golden jetty]

No thats not the reason, im saying thats what i observed personally when i travelled to tokyo

There are evolutionary reasons fs go look it up i just cant recall them rn

[hoary glen]

You can’t buy it in China either

In East Asia, fewer people have body odor.

[golden jetty]

Thats what im saying, but also its not that they dont have odor its that it doesnt smell

[plain ruin]

You forgot about inbreeding that caused them to miss out on traits that helped homo sapiens survive

[hoary glen]

But there are many people who are lactose intolerant, and I am one of them

[golden jetty]

Not true

[formal pilot]

Fortunately I can digest milk and I love milk products

[golden jetty]

I digest lactose religiously

[formal pilot]

Homo sapiens were also involved in inbreeding

[golden jetty]

I consumed ayran, kefir, bulgarian cheese, and yogurt all just today

[hoary glen]

I get diarrhea and acne easily when I drink milk

[verbal torrent]

Ayraaaan

[golden jetty]

Not even kidding

[plain ruin]

Ultimately the "raw" Neanderthal populations are said to have been smaller and more hostile to others compared to Homo Sapiens, iirc

[formal pilot]

I literally have dry vax 💀

Am i supirior

[plain ruin]

I knew you were secretly Chinese

[golden jetty]

Wait fr?

[plain ruin]

I'll ask the RSS group to include you in the list of groups to deport

[golden jetty]

Are you mongol looking?

[manic juniper]

Now I know why

[formal pilot]

Yes, apparently homo sapiens were good at maintaining larger communities

[golden jetty]

What about it

[formal pilot]

Yes, Fr

[verbal torrent]

Love it

[golden jetty]

Ofc you do zehra

Kanka I have like 2L in my fridge

[verbal torrent]

I just drank it wit popeyes

[formal pilot]

My eyes aren't chinese

[golden jetty]

In bagdat caddesi?

[plain ruin]

We aren't anymore 😢
Maybe we just evolved into homo racistiens

[golden jetty]

You have mongol ancestors

[plain ruin]

Someone needs to document this icl...

[verbal torrent]

How can you reach them abroad
I heard they arent popular

[manic juniper]

You don't need to look Mongol to be a Mongol

[verbal torrent]

Yok at home

[manic juniper]

You only require to be victim of Mongol racism

[golden jetty]

Deep

[formal pilot]

I've no clue, I'd love to take an ancestry test

[plain ruin]

I just know you're lying, you must be one of the ones that claim Arunachal Pradesh as Chinese

[golden jetty]

My local middle eastern supermarket sells turksh, persian, and arab food products. We all get lumped together here

[formal pilot]

No, we still are most superior in maintaining larger communities

[feral river]

that was South Tibet lmfao

[golden jetty]

Ive took a 23andme, its so nice

[hoary glen]

[verbal torrent]

Ahaaa now get it

[manic juniper]

That's easy bro they literally have communities of zero people

[plain ruin]

Good luck saving up for 3 months

[golden jetty]

Mb I thought youre turkish

[plain ruin]

Idk bro😭 I just know that India controls it for the most part

[plain ruin]

Say what you wanna say

[formal pilot]

I'd get a good GPU first before spending money on BS

[feral river]

yes for now

[golden jetty]

The only azeri product are the pomegrante juice and syrup

[feral river]

but probably won't in the future

[plain ruin]

Have you seen the fights between the Indian and Chinese soldiers😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

GPUs unite us all
What are you gonna get

[verbal torrent]

Mal i am
Thts why i didn’t do tht in bagdat caddesi
As a turk ive never been there
it is one of tourist’s places

[plain ruin]

Might as well get a Ryzen APU in 2025 tbh

[formal pilot]

That's what I read, we were superior in making larger groups, neanderthals weren't

[plain ruin]

Not as good as we used to be; hence, homo racistiens

[feral river]

more indian soldiers got killed in that fight

[golden jetty]

Hes hazara

[verbal torrent]

You know what
I just realized that i dont know anything about Azerbaijan’s traditional cuisine food beverage etc

[formal pilot]

I might wait for 6060

[plain ruin]

It was literally a fist fight😭

[plain ruin]

Nah bro just get a Ryzen system, all of them have APUs now which are pretty respectable

[golden jetty]

Im part azerbaijani so i feel you lol, istanbul is nice tho i always go there, but baku is next on my bucket list

[feral river]

that kills people because they cross the red line of stepping into Chinese territory

it's our mercy we didn't use machine guns to deal with them

[bitter anchor]

Hello everyone

[tiny apex]

no me

[plain ruin]

Idk who crossed who, it's natural for India to claim that the Chinese crossed over, and for China to claim that the Indians did

[golden jetty]

Wine is the delicacy for sure

[plain ruin]

I remember the two sides fist fighting on top of a barbed wire divider

[tiny apex]

how come Indians and Chinese people hate each other

[golden jetty]

They dont

[plain ruin]

I'm talking about a border dispute, I'm not aware of the Chinese having a widespread hate for India

But, Indians do have some level of animosity towards the Chinese

[golden jetty]

Like economic animosity? Care to explain?

[plain ruin]

There is a "Make/Manufacture in India" movement going on right now in India, people are rejecting Chinese companies/products

[golden jetty]

Right thought so

Economic

[plain ruin]

And there's the US push also that's wanting to reduce business with China, especially with electronics

[golden jetty]

China will soon hate india cuz of what Apple is doing rn

Iykyk

[hoary glen]

hope they succeed.

[tiny apex]

Except the US is making a big mistake with that trade war they’re trying to do

[plain ruin]

I don't think so, I think that China will just go for making their own phones/devices like they're already doing

They already are attempting research on high end hardware, and well, US blocking exports to China is basically useless, the Chinese have been able to get banned hardware regularly

[plain ruin]

Yeah for sure

[golden jetty]

Only russian and iranian markets would support chinese phones like xiaomi, weak stuff

India will get the upper hand in the phone world very soon

[tiny apex]

Don’t a lot of different phones get made in china

[golden jetty]

Rn yes but not anymore soon

[plain ruin]

I'd argue that any 3rd world country would, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day
Xiaomi also has pretty decent flagship phones and tablets too

[golden jetty]

Iphones will soon smell like masala all around the world

Not complaining

[plain ruin]

And even then, we have to pay attention with what's happening with BRICS in the next few years

[tiny apex]

Either way whoever is making the phones is going to be making them for no pay at all and it’s harmful so that’s sad

[wispy sky]

Why so called Palestinian humanitarians didn't cared about syria iraq iran and Afghanistan?

[golden jetty]

Tell me yoeve never used a xiaomi without telling me youve never used a xiaomi

[wispy sky]

There were no rallies and boycotting products for them tho

[hoary glen]

There is no hatred towards India on the Chinese internet, only discrimination. This may be because both sides know too little about each other.

[golden jetty]

Indian slaves

[golden jetty]

Not the current topic of discussion atm

[golden jetty]

Yeah its like two separate planets

[wispy sky]

I had this question to ask for a while

Nvn

[golden jetty]

After this buddy

You'll get your chance trust

[tiny apex]

Even if they start producing phones in India the places they get the parts (African countries) will stay the same

Phone production in general is really sad once you start looking into it

[plain ruin]

They're next on the agenda, firstly, Palestine has UN workers from all around the world that can independently verify what's happening, and the issue has been a longer one than all the other countries you've mentioned

And again, the US, i.e. the dollar country, i.e. the currency which dominates use, has been actively funding Israel, while their citizens have cheap/free healthcare, internet, education etc. Which is seen as "Why should we sanction Russia because of the US, if the US wont do the same?"

Compared to the other regions, funders of conflict in those regions aren't predominantly the US

[golden jetty]

@wispy sky ^^^

[plain ruin]

It's not that no one cares, it's mostly about which governments are involved, and how actively they're involved

[manic juniper]

They both violated the borders but China literally expanded it afterwards, they ended up building an outpost inside India

So the Indian border is now de facto occupied by few hundreds metres by China if not more

[plain ruin]

Their flagship phones can somewhat compete with the base model flagships of the more popular brands

[wispy sky]

Truee but why there were no big rallies in cities ..why these muslims didn't condemned

[manic juniper]

I think India got cucked here

[golden jetty]

Yeah its sad but the point is that which country's gonna dominate

[golden jetty]

Not true, literally just use a xiaomi phone for one day

[wispy sky]

I think Arabs the real ones who are playing intelligently and safe

[golden jetty]

India cant satisfiy his wife?

[plain ruin]

I wouldn't say "slaves"
Factory work in India for electronics seems to be adequate, they may not be making more than the average college graduate in India does, but they'd make enough to live and pay rent in India (if they have to)

[golden jetty]

Arabs are intelligent

[tiny apex]

Also I think the reason people protest more about Palestine is because we can see an all out genocide is happening there as compared to other middle eastern countries that got into war

Though it is still sad

[wispy sky]

What about nigeria

Boko haram is doing a genocide

[golden jetty]

Right if id make enough to eat tikka masala easily id be a slave too, like the food is so good id do anything

[wispy sky]

Of Christians

[golden jetty]

Too populated

Same with china, theyve forgetten about the uygurs

[manic juniper]

No one cares about the Rohingyas in fact I don't even know if that's how you spell it

[plain ruin]

This is an assumption you have, without looking at the governments involved in these countries
The US isnt as involved in these conflicts, so people from the US just aren't going to give that much of a shit
If you're going to claim that people closer to the areas of the conflict aren't saying anything, you'd be mistaken
If you're going to claim that "Muslims" around the US and Europe are only supporting Palestine because of Islam, you're mistaken, it's mostly because the US is involved, everyone relies on the US
Very little of the world actively watches news from the countries you mentioned, everyone watches what the US does, it really is that simple

[plain ruin]

I remember reading this, not just an outpost but like a bunch of houses and whatnot too

[golden jetty]

Damn shawn's gotta reply to all of us now

[plain ruin]

Again, it's like... Who from the west cares about the morals of Nigeria? Westerners are going to give first priority to atrocities being done by westerners, it's that simple

[feral river]

there is no Palestine

[plain ruin]

😭

[plain ruin]

That reminds me, I'll think of a role today

[hoary glen]

The best outcome for Palestine would be to merge with Israel into one country.

I can't imagine a better outcome.

[golden jetty]

If you were the ruler what would you name the new joint country?

[hoary glen]

"Israel Stan", Lmao

[golden jetty]

Palesrael

Thats better

[hoary glen]

Just kidding

[golden jetty]

Me too

[hoary glen]

In any case, one-fifth of Israel's population is already Arab.

[golden jetty]

How do you know that

[hoary glen]

Adding the Arab fertility rate into the equation, it's hard to say who wins and who loses.

[golden jetty]

Im not buying it

[feral river]

it's not very hard to get somebody fuck off from a country by authority under advanced military and help with government organization

what people would hope was not making this equation to be part of the competition of survival

[hoary glen]

There are even Arab soldiers in the Israeli army, but it seems only Druze and Bedouin are allowed to serve.

[feral river]

Israel is not a Jewish ethnostate, but Jews are privilaged in the State of Israel

[hoary glen]

Lebanon used to think so too, until the number of Muslims in the country exceeded that of Christians.

[feral river]

just because they don't have a powerful leadership which promised their determination to make their country own by themselves

and being influenced by stupid leftists

that reminds me why we had deported millions of Japanese which lives in China after the establishment of the PRC

[plain ruin]

That can only happen if Palestinians are given equality in terms of the law and society, they'd need to restructure society, law and education as well

Being able to vote and run for elections too, finally, Palestinians would probably ask for reparations

[hoary glen]

Yeah, hope this day will come sooner

Arabs now make up one-fifth of Israel's population but remain second-class citizens

[feral river]

there's no Palestine, therefore there's no Palestinian

there's only Israeli arabs

[hoary glen]

They do not have the same rights as Jews in Israel and are not allowed to legally own guns.

They are also not allowed to join the military (some ethnic groups can)

[high rapids]

Lets invade Finnland

[manic juniper]

I thought they were allowed to but aren't subject to mandatory conscription

[hoary glen]

Only Jews and Druze are subject to compulsory military service in Israel

[manic juniper]

Yes but are Arabs allowed to join or not

[mental sandal]

what is 89 equal 1927482393226323256

[hoary glen]

Except for Bedouins and Arab Christians, other Arabs seem not to be allowed to join the army.

[manic juniper]

Didn't know

[hoary glen]

I found a 2014 paper on this topic

[golden jetty]

Israeli arab vs palestinian jew

[last copper]

@golden jetty
Hi
Hru

@manic juniper hiiii

[hoary glen]

But I think only more Arabs joining the Israeli army can change their situation

[golden jetty]

Hi al ihsan

Can I ask you a question?

[last copper]

Not ihsan
It's ahsan

[turbid dome]

Ehhh it wouldn’t happen.

The core of the issue is the settler-colonial style land theft. Due to repeated dispossessions the Jewish population of a binational state would be much wealthier unless reparations were given along with the right of return, and stolen land compensated (which would require going all the way back to the founding of Israel in order to see whose land was stolen vs legally purchased before the state’s establishment.

Otherwise, they can do the same thing they do to black Americans. Get a racist, brutal police force, restrict voting access to ID’s that Palestinians can’t afford, etc.

[last copper]

Yes pls

[golden jetty]

How do you pronounce your name?

Fell into it again buddy

[last copper]

Aapko or koi kam nahi hai
Ek hi sawaal baar baar puchte hai

[golden jetty]

I dont understand that

Lets just be bros al ahsan, chill

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332

[winter echo]

Israel will never give Palestinians equal rights

[golden jetty]

If they do one day will you forgive them?

[last copper]

Nahi
Bas puchta rahta hai
Mere naam ko pronounce kaise karun

[feral river]

exactly they only give Israeli arabs equal rights

and there's no Palestinians

[golden jetty]

Bro I just google translated what you said, if you dont like me messing with you ill respectfully stop🙏

[last copper]

Oh sorry I thought that you are an indian

[winter echo]

Then they should stop holding them back and let the Palestinians run their state, without external influence

[manic juniper]

Seems like they are restricted but they can join regardless

[winter echo]

After they pay for the atrocities they committed

[hoary glen]

Yeah

[formal pilot]

What y'all discussing?

[manic juniper]

Kinda like any country where conscription isn't mandatory, you have to get through a psychoanalysis

[winter echo]

Israel vs Palestine

[formal pilot]

Gotcha, the never ending discussion

[hoary glen]

No, this time we are talking about the Arabs in Israel

[plain ruin]

Yup, can, but probably wouldn't, unless Israeli's switch parties,maybe

[vagrant swan]

holy unemployment

[plain ruin]

They may not want to, but I think they'll eventually have to given the status quo of the entire world right now

[gleaming wolf]

Hi guys what's up

[analog hound]

After drawing his bow and shooting the arrow through the twelve axes, Odysseus reveals his identity with a voice that fills the hall. The suitors are stunned and try to react, but it is too late. Earlier, Telemachus and Eumaeus had taken the weapons from the hall while the suitors were trying to draw the bowstring. Odysseus begins hand-to-hand combat: he first kills Antinous, the most insolent and provocative, and then the other suitors one by one.
Telemachus actively helps his father and fights alongside him. Loyal servants, such as Eumaeus and Eurycleia, remain by their side.
Penelope watches the whole scene with restrained fear and wonder. She is not sure if her husband is really alive or if the justice being served is real. Odysseus calls out to her, and she finally recognizes her husband through his words, his voice, and his knowledge of the details of their life together.

There are only 2 rhapsodies left

[shell hemlock]

i was reminded of our last conversation when i watched this video, you should hear what muhammad ali (the muslim lantern) has to say about this topic as this is what the majority of muslims think as well n muhammad ali is a good representation

@bold owl

[analog hound]

Such a pity 😔

[turbid dome]

Very long way to say that hitting your wife is permissible 😭

[shell hemlock]

my mom hit me and i turned out fine

[turbid dome]

Everyone who says that did not turn out fine 😭

[shell hemlock]

what a logic

[formal pilot]

The right amount of trauma can make a person hilarious, i might do it to my kids so they can carry the legacy in school

[turbid dome]

I mean if you say it it shows you’re normalized with abuse 😭

[shell hemlock]

most of em end up having dark humor

[fresh flower]

First thing I'd do as pm of Sweden is legalise hitting your children

[shell hemlock]

are you claiming i was abused ?

[turbid dome]

Idk the proper amount 😭

[formal pilot]

Nowadays being disrespectful is called dark humour

[turbid dome]

If you were hit then yes, there’s clear psychological effects of that, even if you don’t recognize it

[formal pilot]

Fofo

[shell hemlock]

you have never encountered the asian way of discipline then

[formal pilot]

Have you ever got beaten by your parents or teachers?

[turbid dome]

These days dark humor = being mean

[shell hemlock]

do you even know what dark humor is

[turbid dome]

Doesn’t mean it’s good or healthy 😭

[turbid dome]

Yes

[shell hemlock]

that's subjective to you, it worked for us lol

asian parents don't do gentle parenting

[formal pilot]

Yes, I've seen R threats as dark humour

[turbid dome]

You think mine did? lol I got hit and choked

[formal pilot]

Generation is cooked

[shell hemlock]

choking is a different story lmao

[turbid dome]

Yeah well taught me to only slam doors when people aren’t around

😂

[turbid dome]

Gen Z will perish

[shell hemlock]

you're subjective to what 'abuse' is i guess, bc it's known that parenting methods is different

[formal pilot]

I nearly suffocated myself to death, and for that my parents beat the hell out of me

[shell hemlock]

my mom hit me with slippers, clothing hangers, etc when i did smth stupid and that made me stop doing stupid stuff

[hoary glen]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-beat-up-convulsions-convulsing-nileseyy-gif-25852525

Like this?

[turbid dome]

I mean hitting a kid is abuse

[shell hemlock]

it's subjective

what is the 'hitting'

[hoary glen]

[shell hemlock]

if it's flip flops being smacked or thrown at you, at least from my upbringing it's just my mom teaching me not to do smth stupid

[turbid dome]

Anything that leaves a mark, causes injury, or pain.

And any hitting whatsoever increases chances for long term psychological issues

[cerulean pivot]

It's not subjective lol even Islam forbidden it

[hoary glen]

The ultimate weapon: belt

[cerulean pivot]

Especially hitting on the face

[shell hemlock]

he is basically saying my mom abused me bc she hit me as discipline (the asian way)

[formal pilot]

I stuck that white roller thing deep in my nose and due to swelling my other nostril also got blocked

[cerulean pivot]

Aha
In that case yeah Asian parents are something different

[shell hemlock]

i don’t know how he is even claiming things for me when it’s my life

[turbid dome]

Psychological damage regardless of if you recognize it or not. 😭

[shell hemlock]

my parents did it out of love and concern for me

so like…

[cerulean pivot]

@formal pilot I'm an African jew and this is my art

[shell hemlock]

i think coddling your children to the point where they can’t take accountability is psychological damage

you ever seen americans teens who are entitled to the point where they would rebel just bc their parents let them off to do that ?

[turbid dome]

Hitting children isn’t an effective teacher, all it does is damage trust and cause psychological damage. There’s a difference between making a kid take accountability and beating them.

[turbid dome]

Yeah, it also happens with kids who get beat a ton because they don’t trust their parents and get in worse habits

[shell hemlock]

that is subjective to how you think your parenting method works

[formal pilot]

Yes, I agree with Martinii

[turbid dome]

No it’s not, there’s studies that show this. Whether hitting hurts kids isn’t subjective

[formal pilot]

Kids will start lying if you beat them

[shell hemlock]

you are twisting it now by introducing the word ‘beating’

[turbid dome]

Hitting or beating doesn’t matter, even just hitting is bad

[shell hemlock]

my mom hit me with clothing hangers and flip flops, do i count that as abuse ? no, bc i did smth stupid and she’s disciplining out of concern and love for me

[turbid dome]

Her intent doesn’t matter when her outcome is bad😭

[shell hemlock]

her ‘outcome’ is bad ?

[turbid dome]

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2019/05/physical-discipline

[shell hemlock]

huh ? me is bad ? huh ?

[turbid dome]

Yeah, the outcome is she’s hitting you

[shell hemlock]

[formal pilot]

Ik a person who got beaten up so badly during childhood, he ended up murdering his neighbour

[turbid dome]

Whether she’s doing it out of love doesn’t matter

[bitter anchor]

Hello everyone

[shell hemlock]

it’s not abuse

[turbid ivy]

Is she a Muslim, by chance?

[shell hemlock]

clearly you’ve never grown up in asian or african household

[turbid dome]

Would highly recommend you read this

[turbid ivy]

🤔

[shell hemlock]

it’s the fact that you are calling my mother an abuser*

[turbid dome]

I literally said I got choked and hit as a kid.

Just cause my parents are white doesn’t mean they can’t do the same thing, always looking out for grades.

[shell hemlock]

so how were you hit ?

[turbid dome]

I mean… I’m not going to sugarcoat it.

[shell hemlock]

i’ve never gotten choked, i mentioned how i was disciplined

[shell hemlock]

wow…

what the fuck :)

[turbid dome]

Always barehanded but the worst was around my neck when I was choked, the best was spankings.

[formal pilot]

It's alright Martin, some people have different values

[turbid dome]

I was talking about myself.

[shell hemlock]

you're calling my mother an abuser without even met her

[turbid dome]

Sometimes those values are harmful

[formal pilot]

It'll take them multiple generations to understand the optimal way of parenting

[manic juniper]

My mum used corporal punishment too but I don't think it taught me anything at all compared to other forms of punishment

[shell hemlock]

i don't tolerate talking about my mother like that

[uncut tiger]

Hitting kids is okay

I turned out just fine

maybe better

[shell hemlock]

you can hate my mom all you want, but insulting her is fucking low of you

[formal pilot]

My brother didn't

[turbid dome]

I mean… say wow all you want but it’s more just the social impermissibility vs truth argument

[uncut tiger]

too much of anything is harmful

[shell hemlock]

i'm proud of my mom and i love my mom, i applaud her for raising me and how i turned out

the fact that you are claiming shit just to indirectly insult my mom is FUCKING disgusting

[uncut tiger]

I will beat my sons so they become real men when they grow up

[shell hemlock]

anyway i'm done talking with u

[turbid dome]

I don’t hate your mom, it’s hard for me to genuinely hate most people. I’m too apathetic.

[uncut tiger]

like my dad did

[shell hemlock]

fuck

[uncut tiger]

why lily hatin on martinii 💀

[turbid ivy]

Wait.. surah 4.34

[manic juniper]

[formal pilot]

Ik someone who was beaten up so badly because of a rumour that she's dating Someone

[turbid dome]

I said hitting kids is abusive and didn’t give her mom an exception

[turbid ivy]

[uncut tiger]

beating girls is bad

i was only talking abt sons

my sister lives like a queen

[formal pilot]

Alright, I'm in

[manic juniper]

I know someone who was beaten for dealing cocaine

Beaten by his dad

[uncut tiger]

deserved

beat more

[manic juniper]

Then he went back to dealing cocaine after two weeks

[turbid dome]

Was it that guy you mentioned before?

[manic juniper]

Proof that it's worthless

[formal pilot]

Most of the time they steal cocaine from father

[uncut tiger]

okay maybe sometimes beating isnt the best

[manic juniper]

Yes

[formal pilot]

To resell it

[uncut tiger]

especially in addictions

but it does help in most other cases

[manic juniper]

The guy was very badly beaten, his dad didn't spare or show any mercy

Batman levels of beating, he ended up hospitalised

[uncut tiger]

is the kid asian bro

[manic juniper]

No

[turbid dome]

Joker origin story

[formal pilot]

I've videos of my neighbours fighting, and blood is everywhere

[uncut tiger]

damn bro

glad im in a civilized society bro

[formal pilot]

Property dispute

[uncut tiger]

classic

[shell hemlock]

he's gonna say no you didn't bc he got choked in his childhood

[turbid dome]

Pakistan vs India

[uncut tiger]

dont hate on martinii he's a gang member

[formal pilot]

Have you ever got beaten up by parents or teachers

[turbid dome]

🫡

[shell hemlock]

he indirectly said my mom is an abuser, imagine if that's how people describe your mom

he's never met my mom, literally just a guy on the internet

anyway i cooled off so it's fine

[uncut tiger]

aight we are allowed to have conflicted opinions here

[shell hemlock]

insult my mom all you want

[turbid dome]

I indirectly said all parents who hit their kids, meaning my own parents

lol

[formal pilot]

Quran is fiction

[uncut tiger]

have you ever went through such an experience bro

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

@turbid dome explain yourself

@shell hemlock lets hate on this white boi more

[turbid dome]

I haven’t had the privilege of being hit with an object, my parents preferred to feel my youthful flesh on my hands. I got choked tho

[shell hemlock]

is it time to jump the racist wagon

[turbid dome]

It’s historical fiction

[uncut tiger]

@shell hemlock i mean he's calling his own parents abusive, why u gettin mad then

you said the right thing at the wrong time bro

[shell hemlock]

bc my mom ain't an abuser, stupid

[uncut tiger]

right now we're hating on americans not indians

[shell hemlock]

he can call his own parents abusive, they're not my parents lol

[uncut tiger]

did u have a stepdad by any chance bro

[turbid dome]

No

My parents are still married

[uncut tiger]

are u in touch with em

[turbid dome]

Yes

[formal pilot]

US Navy loses F/A-18 fighter jet, Sea Hawk helicopter in South China Sea within 30 minutes; here’s what we know so far - The Economic Times https://share.google/utOJFblnZqeDRyMQU

Sanna has been unusually quiet since the recent jet crash

[uncut tiger]

do u love them

[turbid dome]

Transactionally

[uncut tiger]

@feral river why u fightin with the green card gods bro

[turbid dome]

Pros: less imperialist gear
Cons: no cool plane for Sanna

[shell hemlock]

i feel like some patriotic cambodians care too much about useless things

[uncut tiger]

wat does that mean bro

[turbid dome]

When I get stuff out of them

[shell hemlock]

like how there was a ceasefire agreement with trump, the malaysian pm and thailand pm the other day

[uncut tiger]

you are very materialistic bro everytime i talk to u i get that vibe

[shell hemlock]

and the thai pm switched seats with the cambodian pm to sit next to trump n the cambodians are like omggg i can't believe th*is would do that

[uncut tiger]

disappointed bro

[shell hemlock]

they kiss trump

eventho he doesn't do anything for our country

[turbid dome]

Makes sense, Thailand is reliant on US weaponry, a leftover from the Vietnam War era

[uncut tiger]

wym bro they select your government

[formal pilot]

Not every country has the same family values diaz

[shell hemlock]

they are focusing on the wrong thing

[manic juniper]

She doesn't like those anyway

[uncut tiger]

ik bro thats why i asked abt the stepdad thing 💀

[uncut tiger]

.

[shell hemlock]

the us has been supporting thailand for like forever so the fact that he was changin seats to sit next to his bf doesn't matter

[turbid dome]

Not really, I just engage in material analysis and have no real reason to care about my parents unless it’s in my interest, I don’t view blood as reason alone to care or maintain a relationship with someone.

[turbid dome]

Oh

[formal pilot]

In your country kids are investments for retirement

[uncut tiger]

BRO

[manic juniper]

Yes by both

[uncut tiger]

just look at what he sayin bro

[manic juniper]

Not at the same time tho

[turbid dome]

Am I wrong?

[formal pilot]

His parents can take care of themselves

[uncut tiger]

idk bro you went through different experiences so your worldview is different

[formal pilot]

Things are different in our countries

[manic juniper]

Degeneratio

[turbid dome]

All I’m saying is I’m gonna cut them off once I don’t need them anymore

[formal pilot]

No wonder why you turned out to be bad, as lord Kukumber said

[uncut tiger]

even if kids arent viewed as investment i still think its their job to look after their old parents

[turbid dome]

lol

[novel nimbus]

Should I continue with American or modern Russian campaign?

[shell hemlock]

unless their parents were rlly shitty

[winter echo]

And then?

[manic juniper]

Yes beatings don't teach a lot, punishments, yelling and starvation are better

[turbid dome]

I didn’t sign up for that, I wouldn’t be able to have a job taking care of both of them, their medical situations are too complex and require professionals anyways

[turbid dome]

Did they starve you?

[winter echo]

How was the seminar, did you manage to attend?

[formal pilot]

Verbal torture can be really bad

[uncut tiger]

wym u didnt sign up for that mf u came outta his balls

[manic juniper]

Not often

[formal pilot]

@NANA

[turbid dome]

I didn’t consent to that, there’s no paper trail

[severe tinsel]

Valid reason

[turbid dome]

Tag them, be brave

[uncut tiger]

not you too

[turbid dome]

Is that why you’re so skinny?

[formal pilot]

She's banned

[manic juniper]

Pretty much an investment, what if they pay someone else or the parents are able to

[uncut tiger]

[turbid dome]

Why

[manic juniper]

No

[turbid dome]

Oh

[uncut tiger]

thats the circle of life

what if your own kids dont care abt u

[turbid dome]

I don’t want kids

[cerulean pivot]

Deport

[uncut tiger]

aight martinii is an anti natalist

[formal pilot]

I mustn't discuss the matter here because it might look like a war on establishment

[turbid dome]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

💀 💀

[turbid dome]

Ping me elsewhere

[uncut tiger]

aight bro end of discussion atp

[cerulean pivot]

I'd rather marry sterile woman

[shell hemlock]

yeahhh i went to the whole event (rlly proud of myself btw) i made a friend there, also came back home with a lot of business cards from rich ceo’s lol

[winter echo]

Africa also, infact even our teachers used to beat us in school

[manic juniper]

I will not have kids so I'm prepared

[uncut tiger]

penile u mean right

[cerulean pivot]

The one who can't breed

[turbid dome]

Based

[uncut tiger]

are you also an anti natalist

[manic juniper]

Not for the usual reasons

[cerulean pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/george-floyd-movement-i-cant-breathe-black-lives-matter-gif-17399926

[uncut tiger]

just say yes

your population is doomed

but dont worry i will personally come there to repopulate europe

[cerulean pivot]

Yes diaz
Yes

[shell hemlock]

they don't care

bc they don't love their family

[manic juniper]

Being part time isn't the same as full time

[manic juniper]

That has nothing to do with family lmao, some Nazi shit

[uncut tiger]

okay how is that relevant

[manic juniper]

Why would I care if Finnish people go extinct

[uncut tiger]

💀

[shell hemlock]

i mean depending on the situation

[manic juniper]

It has nothing to do with family

[uncut tiger]

damn bro

[shell hemlock]

btw i'm not talking about you

[uncut tiger]

yall weird im leaving

[turbid dome]

But seriously why

[manic juniper]

I guess there is a bit of Nazi in some of us

[uncut tiger]

idk bro im kinda on my animal drive

reproduce!

[hoary glen]

Because she is a lizard cult, she does not want to add new life to mammals

[turbid dome]

I just want to avoid the reproducing step

[winter echo]

I don't believe the lots of business cards from rich ceo's part
Anyway, well done

[manic juniper]

I'm in favour of more mammals of different species

[uncut tiger]

why bro u scared or smth

[shell hemlock]

i don't know much about other cultures, but in asia we don't immediately leave our family as soon as we turn 18 (and we don't get ridiculed for living with our parents)

[manic juniper]

I think we should be antinatalist once it's the right time, aka when we fixed our damage

[uncut tiger]

why deprive humans from the gift of life

[turbid dome]

The globe is overpopulated and I think voluntary depopulation is a good step

[uncut tiger]

sad

[analog hound]

Eurycleia runs to tell Penelope the news that Odysseus has returned and killed the suitors. But Penelope does not believe it easily. After twenty years of loneliness, her heart does not easily give in to joy. Odysseus appears before her, but she stands silent, looking at him carefully, without approaching him.
Odysseus is saddened, but he understands her. So, the goddess Athena transforms him for a moment, making him appear young, handsome, and divine. But still, Penelope wants proof. So she asks him something that only he could know. The bed in their room had been built by Odysseus himself and was connected to the roots of an olive tree from the palace garden, making it as immovable as their love. Penelope, in order to test him, asks him to move the bed, but he replies that this would be impossible because in order to move it, one would have to uproot the tree itself.
Upon hearing this, Penelope bursts into tears and embraces him, realizing that the man before her is truly her husband.
That night, they talk incessantly. Odysseus recounts his adventures, and Penelope listens to him with admiration and affection. And when dawn begins to break, Athena holds back the night a little longer so that they will not be separated immediately.

[uncut tiger]

aight bro

[manic juniper]

No one is deprived of anything if they aren't born tho

[turbid dome]

How is it a gift

[shell hemlock]

also we are expected to care for our parents the same way they cared for us, unless they were actual horrible human beings who didn't fulfill their duties of raising a child right

[manic juniper]

This is like saying a Tyrannosaurus rex is being deprived of life when no one was born in the last 66 million years

[formal pilot]

All smart people are not having babies, all the dumb ones are multiplying like e-coli

[uncut tiger]

is 2 kids good bro

[turbid dome]

It’s true though.

[uncut tiger]

isnt not being born better than being born

[shell hemlock]

yeah i'm outta this

[manic juniper]

Depends on who is born

[winter echo]

How touching 😊
Next 🙏

[formal pilot]

No clue, ask ddy

[manic juniper]

Or what is born

[uncut tiger]

yeah i'm outta this

[analog hound]

The last oneeee

[turbid dome]

Reptile advocates = good?

[uncut tiger]

[turbid dome]

Reptiles

[winter echo]

Yesss

[manic juniper]

I think it's good if more wildlife is born

[formal pilot]

He's lying, I bet he hasn't read anything

[manic juniper]

I want the next people to enjoy the last moments of humanity on Earth better than I did

[turbid dome]

But seriously our economic system is predicated on infinite growth, we have to change it to serve human needs instead of shareholders and massively shrink the population, there’s only so many resources on this planet and we’re exhausting them quickly

[turbid dome]

Sadly feels like it’s getting worse but yeah, it’s not great

[manic juniper]

That's exhausting our needs too tho, just not evenly

That's why I think it should stop altogether, we fucked up for far too long

[turbid dome]

I mean I agree but I think it needs to be a managed process

[hybrid herald]

Valid ngl

[manic juniper]

Even kings didn't like having too many children otherwise their wealth would be divided and their power decreased

[turbid dome]

Wasn’t their ideal an heir, a spare, and tons of daughters for alliances and relationships?

[winter echo]

Says who?
We barely occupied maybe 10%
Actually many countries are having depopulation issues like Europe, Japan, Russia and many other countries who risk extinction if they don't start having more babies

[formal pilot]

Y'all be yappin about kids, bro no one is marrying you

🫵

[analog hound]

The 24th rhapsody is the epilogue of the Odyssey.
At the beginning, the rhapsody descends into Hades. The souls of the suitors pass through Acheron, and Hermes leads them there. Their shadows tell Achilles and Agamemnon how they died: not in battle, but at the hands of Odysseus in his own home. Agamemnon, who had been betrayed by his wife, admires Penelope, saying that her glory will live forever because she remained faithful. Thus, her fame passes through the ages; Penelope becomes a symbol of wisdom and devotion.
Back on land, Odysseus goes to his aged father, Laertes. He finds him in the garden, bent over and sad, digging the earth in poor clothes. Odysseus approaches him with tears in his eyes. Laertes weeps with joy and the family is reunited.
However, the revenge is not completely over. The relatives of the slain suitors take up arms and the country prepares for more bloodshed. But then Athena intervenes. She stops the battle and brings peace and reconciliation. Zeus approves the decision; the violence must end, because blood cannot be cleansed with blood.
So Odysseus returns to his homeland once again and, after 20 years, becomes once again a husband, father, son, and king of his beloved homeland

The End

[manic juniper]

Status quo I guess, or marrying off someone better

[turbid dome]

10% of the globe is huge btw. We’re destroying a ton of nature, risking our own suffering just for money.

[analog hound]

😂😂

[turbid dome]

True.

[manic juniper]

Status quo aka incest

[turbid dome]

I think there’s a 50/50 that Isfrun is either single or marries a bird.

For me it’s probably single, just because relationships are too stressful. The only reason I would consider marriage is economic reasons.

[turbid dome]

Sorry if I made fun of you too hard @manic juniper

[formal pilot]

We should ping Nobu, he'll ask isfrun about more details

[crystal kayak]

Don't you want kids 💀

[turbid dome]

No

[winter echo]

Destroying what?
We can just do afforestation like China is doing

[formal pilot]

Yes relationships can be stressful

[crystal kayak]

Why??

[thorny steeple]

abdul

[turbid dome]

We’re lucky that he can’t post #hoejabi for her

[turbid dome]

They’re annoying

[thorny steeple]

@winter echo yo

[formal pilot]

You can always adopt a grown man

[manic juniper]

Reforestation doesn't restore old growth forests and wildlife lol

[turbid dome]

The expanding population and economy will require greater environmental damage at a rate that can’t be sustained. Only shrinking the economy can fix it, but not permanently, it just buys time

[manic juniper]

If this was the case all of Europe would look like Bialowieza forest

[analog hound]

Don't make fun of her
She is secretly Greek, she just doesn't know it

[turbid dome]

No

[turbid dome]

This is true

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't even complain what kind of Greek would I be

[crystal kayak]

So you don't want to see the mini version of you??? 😭😭😭 I get the relationship part

[winter echo]

What a beautiful story

[formal pilot]

Anyway, Given the strain on global resources, it's becoming increasingly important to consider sustainable population levels to ensure longterm ecological balance and equitable access to necessities

[turbid dome]

Mini-fuckup? Hell no

[formal pilot]

I feel like a politician

[analog hound]

Oh Spartan
Definitely 😂

[turbid dome]

I’d vote for you (if you make me party whip)

[analog hound]

Thank you 😊

[manic juniper]

[hoary glen]

Which points are beautiful? List a few

[turbid dome]

Being party whip would be great for me as I could do strategic blackmail

[manic juniper]

Many people don't consider that we are using a lot of resources, and sure, certain people use a lot more than those in other countries. If we were all equal this planet would end in less than a year

[formal pilot]

Poland is making you jew

[manic juniper]

You can't really be in favour of equality while maintaining the same amount of consumption or population we have

[turbid dome]

Yup

[sweet wolf]

I was wondering where you'd be when a topic like this was being discussed

[turbid dome]

Oh damn I didn’t tell you long story

[winter echo]

I hate talking about climate

[manic juniper]

Personally I'm in favour of less people having more fun

[turbid dome]

It’s important

[analog hound]

Queen of Sparta

[crystal kayak]

Is it just because their are annoying or is there something else as for me I would love to see the mini version of me the only thing that is stopping me is I have trust issues 😭

[manic juniper]

Gorgo II

[analog hound]

Exactly ☝️

[turbid dome]

1. annoying
2. increases population when it should be decreased
3. future outlook of the world isn’t great
4. medical issues
5. psychological issues
6. economic issues

[manic juniper]

Do you know queen Teuta, she's Illyrian tho

[lethal sentinel]

anyone expert in eassy writing

[turbid dome]

The doggo just got a haircut and my dad keeps calling it the penis tail haircut but I prefer the Italian sausage tail haircut

[analog hound]

I have heard her name but I haven't really read a lot about her

[manic juniper]

Probably the most badass woman of antiquity in Europe

[winter echo]

Nature have preserved the earth for billions of years through balance and self regulation.
I don't have to worry about that

[manic juniper]

You're basically allowing a mass extinction to happen

[crystal kayak]

Fair, but I want one if I find the right person

[analog hound]

I will look into it ☝️

[turbid dome]

Yes, oftentimes by a large amount of animals suffering brutal deaths.

Would be a lot better if we were to be aware of that and plan to work in a way that minimizes that

[manic juniper]

Not only will that influence other beings but it will make life hell to our descendants

[turbid dome]

Yeah my issue is the right person 😭

[formal pilot]

Every food we take from this earth directly affects the lives of other species. We must not overpopulate the planet, other animals also have the right to exist and thrive

[manic juniper]

If you really care about humans more than anything else you should look past the short term gain

[manic juniper]

Yes, and we are making it less productive with agricultural lands unlike dinosaurs who boosted diversity and moved a lot of biomass

[turbid dome]

Option A) run out of resources and have the societal collapse cause mass death.
Option B) (currently happening) Billions displaced due to climate change causing mass death.
Option C) realize what is incoming and take steps to lessen the damage

[crystal kayak]

What, you said you don't want a kid because they are annoying etc your issues is not the right person

[manic juniper]

Option A and B are pretty much the same scenario just in different parts of the world, or the same place

[analog hound]

@manic juniper I was watching a video about Lapland and a Finnish guy who was living there yesterday and I want to go there 😭

[turbid dome]

There were like 5 other issues but yeah, I find kids inherently annoying and they would absolutely hurt my ears

[manic juniper]

It's pretty ok outside of winter season

[turbid dome]

True, A and B can happen simultaneously

[manic juniper]

Otherwise it always looks monochromatic and dark

[analog hound]

How cold can it get?

[winter echo]

We only contribution about 4 to 5% of the carbon emissions.
Don't try to gaslight me

[manic juniper]

-30 on average

[turbid dome]

Do you know what gaslighting is?

And 4-5% doesn’t sound like a lot but over time that’s a ton

[crystal kayak]

Everyone is different I find them cute,my issue is trust

[manic juniper]

The temperature isn't that bad imo, it's comfortable to dress heavy. What sucks is having everything look the same

[analog hound]

That doesn't stop me 😂

[turbid dome]

Yeah trust is the major issue for me

[manic juniper]

Me when I learn a new word

[manic juniper]

What about having night for two months straight

[turbid dome]

Could I move in? I’ll let you take my place here 😭

[manic juniper]

But I like living here, it's worth it despite everything

[turbid dome]

Ok first question still stands

[analog hound]

That's more difficult that the temperatures
Do you love in the North?

[turbid dome]

What’s the cost

[analog hound]

Where are you from?

[turbid dome]

Arkansas

[manic juniper]

Yes I'm close to the northernmost border

[analog hound]

Can I come too? 😂

[manic juniper]

Probably having another house

[turbid dome]

How much would it cost there?

[manic juniper]

Are you willing to live in a sauna with Martini

[turbid dome]

Are you putting me in a sauna? Oh no

[manic juniper]

20-30k€

[turbid dome]

I’ll live in your baseboards instead of the sauna

[manic juniper]

I don't have enough space elsewhere, the home is tiny

The sauna is a separate building and it's even smaller of course, it's just one room

[analog hound]

Isn't the cost of living in Finland higher than in the average European country?

[turbid dome]

That’s so cheap when compared to American housing wtf

[manic juniper]

It is but it's much lower than USA

At least half as high I think

[winter echo]

Yes you're trying to make me believe that humans have the largest impact on carbon emissions

[analog hound]

😂😂😂
Do you have a sauna in your bathroom like the other Finnish people in Lapland?

[turbid dome]

Yes but compared to the US I’ll just say you’re looking at that house being 10x cheaper than this

[manic juniper]

Because no one wants to live in a place without many opportunities or where the climate sucks

[turbid dome]

Can you point to where I said that?

[manic juniper]

Costs are much higher in Helsinki or even just the south

[analog hound]

Definitely
I would never live in the US

[turbid dome]

The climate is awesome

The only issue is the job market ig

[manic juniper]

No lol I have a sauna as a separate building, it's a small wooden sauna I built alongside my aunt (but she did most of the job), it cost us less than 2000€

[crystal kayak]

Yeah it is so scary putting all your trust in someone and expect them not to break it,I don't do that

[turbid dome]

Yeah same

[winter echo]

You didn't explicitly say that but that's what you're implying

[turbid dome]

I was implying that we are in control of enough emissions to do something about it.

[analog hound]

I would never imagine having a sauna in my yard but I would want one for after my workouts😂
Impressive that you built it on your own

[manic juniper]

"We only contribute to 5%" yes I would love to believe that tall red rectangle represents 5%

[manic juniper]

My aunt has many skills, I just followed her directives

[analog hound]

Useful skills

[cerulean pivot]

Another win for agartha

[turbid dome]

From what I looked up 4-5% only covers healthcare 😂

[analog hound]

I will come to live in your sauna
Isn't it bastu in Swedish? 🤔

[manic juniper]

Yes, but Finland Swedes also call it sauna

Much respect for Batman Arkham City, it's a 2012 game with feathered depictions of dinosaurs

Shame on Jurassic World

[analog hound]

I like the name "sauna" better
In greek we call it sauna but the pronunciation is different of course

[manic juniper]

How is it? Something like sαvnα?

[analog hound]

Sàuna

[manic juniper]

Finnish A is more back vowel kinda like Canadian English

[analog hound]

Sorray 😂

[turbid dome]

Stay on your half then

And don’t turn it on without letting me evacuate first

[analog hound]

😂😂

[analog hound]

Have you ever tried it

[manic juniper]

Lmao more similar to how they say "ramen", sometimes it sounds like an O pronounced from the very back of your mouth

[turbid dome]

No but I have no intent of doing so because I hate the humidity

[manic juniper]

It's not humid if it's not on

[hoary glen]

There are many dinosaurs in the game "Ark Survival Evolved" that I used to like very much, but the dinosaur models in it are early dinosaur restoration models.

[turbid dome]

Yeah that’s my point

[analog hound]

Unlike Olivander, I like the Finnish accent.
It's funny, but in a good way (I don't know if that makes sense)

[turbid dome]

What do we each have to pay in rent

[analog hound]

I have in a hotel
You should try it it is nice 😂

[turbid dome]

Noooooo😭 idk maybe I’ve been conditioned into hating them because I’ve always just viewed them as dangerous for other reasons

[manic juniper]

I get the feeling, it sounds rustic even if you compare it to Estonian which is somewhat similar

[analog hound]

I will give her a Greek passport

[manic juniper]

I feel like in Batman they used 3D models from another source because all of them are naked, meanwhile the paintings on the walls are modern

[turbid dome]

Ok I don’t have anything that good 😭

[analog hound]

Dangerous? 😂

[turbid dome]

Can that pay rent for both of us?

[manic juniper]

Nothing, just clean it regularly, shit far from it and wait outside if I need to use it

Or join if you don't want to stay outside

[turbid dome]

My dads condition

[analog hound]

For example the greek accent is terrible that's why I don't use mine

[turbid dome]

Ok. Could we go inside your house if we don’t want to use it

[turbid dome]

It’s not terrible

[manic juniper]

It sounds deep to me, kinda like Spanish but not funny like Spanish

[manic juniper]

I guess

[turbid dome]

Ok sounds good

[analog hound]

We just speak English the same way we speak Greek

[manic juniper]

I know how that works, that's how we operate as well

[analog hound]

I would go for a walk if you want to use it

[manic juniper]

People like to overestimate how good our English is, it's very ridiculous

[analog hound]

Hehe 😌

[manic juniper]

We have perfect comprehension and listening skills but spoken English isn't that good at all

[winter echo]

Is that so, then why are countries shutting down their nuclear reactors, which are considered the cleanest source of energy?

[turbid dome]

It’s true though, I can listen to Finns easier than English people

[manic juniper]

There are countries introducing toxins in their vegetables, just because they're doing it doesn't mean it's a good or sensible choice

[analog hound]

The British accent is fantastic
But people who speak aristocratic English 😂

[manic juniper]

Italians and Germans are crying because they dropped support for nuclear

[turbid dome]

???

Because countries don’t operate in the interest of humanity.

Also pretty sure there’s cleaner than nuclear energy, as it leaves radioactive waste.

[winter echo]

Guys if you don't want to have babies that is totally fine.
But why are you trying to impose your beliefs on others?

[turbid dome]

British accent is so horrendous

[manic juniper]

No one imposed any belief on others, that's just telling your opinion

If you can't stand other people's opinions maybe you are the problem

[turbid dome]

A belief isn’t imposed on others unless there’s a system doing it. Otherwise it’s just an opinion😭

[analog hound]

Νοοο
I like the Scottish one too

[turbid dome]

Scottish is hit or miss ig

Can be awesome or horrendous

[analog hound]

What were you talking about?

[manic juniper]

I never suggested anyone not to have children

[turbid dome]

There was a conversation earlier about not having kids and he’s tying environmental decision making to arguments about global population we made earlier

[analog hound]

I have a Scottish friend
I love his accent so much even though the first time we talked I couldn't understand anything 😂

[analog hound]

Ahhhh
Can I join?

[turbid dome]

In not having kids?

[plain ruin]

No Islam No Nobu
Has serious chat reached pre Nobu levels?

[turbid dome]

Maybe

[hoary glen]

Games and movies are all like this. They just want to create the dinosaurs that everyone imagines, or make the dinosaurs more exaggerated. As for restoring the real dinosaurs, that is what documentaries should do ("Prehistoric Planet").

[analog hound]

Join the conversation
I want kids

[turbid dome]

Oh yeah sure

[hoary glen]

Looking forward to Nobu's return

[manic juniper]

This is just a museum so it isn't that important if they look like this, but I thought it's funny that it's a bit inconsistent in how they are shown

[manic juniper]

Do you like kids

[fresh flower]

I just got home 💔💔💔

[analog hound]

Yes
Don't worry I won't bring any kids in your sauna

[turbid dome]

Good 😂

[analog hound]

So they were saying that having children harms the environment?

[analog hound]

I will find a Finnish guy and we will become neighbours
Are you still going to stay in the sauna?

[turbid dome]

I’ll stay in that sauna until I can “convince” (blackmail) her into buying me a house

[analog hound]

😂😂😂

I don't think you will succeed

[turbid dome]

Yeah I was saying the global population was too high because of our limited resources. They were saying who cares lol

[turbid dome]

Probably not but oh well

[analog hound]

Ohhh
Look I care about the environment and I am trying to be environmentally friendly but I will still have kids

[analog hound]

You can work in a reindeer farm

[winter echo]

This chart is misleading.
It confuses net impact with total emissions.
Humans produce only about 5% of total CO₂ emissions, while nature emits and reabsorbs hundreds of times more through oceans, plants, and soils.
The red bar just shows the extra CO₂ humans add that nature can’t absorb, not our share of total emissions.
So yes, our part is small in volume but big in effect the chart mixes the two ideas and gives a false impression.

[turbid dome]

Yeah I just don’t understand why people want kids 😭

[turbid dome]

That’s only exciting if I can do illegal reindeer smuggling. Maybe I’ll smuggle reindeer or use reindeer to smuggle other things

[winter echo]

You're welcome 😊

[turbid dome]

The effect is what matters 😭

[fresh flower]

This shit is AI

I 100% know it I just can't prove it

[turbid dome]

Yeah it is

[turbid dome]

No I agree

[analog hound]

For example, I grew up in a society that values family (especially now that we have a demographic problem), but on a personal level, it is simply one of my desires. I am also an Orthodox Christian, and children are considered a blessing from God, if you consider that there are people who want children but are unable to have them.

[turbid dome]

You can tell cause there was a long pause and none of the usual errors