🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

why am i immoral to drinking milk?

https://tenor.com/view/man-stand-man-stands-bald-room-gif-21747656

no answer?

you dont have a power over here do you

thats 20 days atleast ill have better time without toxic vegans

@edgy monolith : "hey dont kill animals for food"

after using pesticide on crops to kill insects

stupid ass morality they got

[raven forum]

can anyone help me rn?

its dead serious

imlooking for a quantum mechanics book which is highly good but underrated

[golden jetty]

The rest is history by goalhanger

[thorny steeple]

chatgpt

[high rapids]

Thanks

[near blaze]

Nop

Wasn't you

[raven forum]

no, the govt will detect it , discord is safe and is operated by pvt cooperation i believe it wont get leaked even if i put the virtual blueprint to subspace jump

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-cat-row-boat-boating-gif-12903093113831772718

[thorny steeple]

then why would i remember this?

[thorny steeple]

gpt is private ownership

[hybrid herald]

Same gng
W

[raven forum]

no you fool it isnt , i've already looked into the database of gpt

[uncut tiger]

did u see my role yesterday

[hybrid herald]

Nah

[golden jetty]

La vie en noir ❌ La vie en noor

[hybrid herald]

What was it diaz

[hybrid herald]

Fr. That's me fr

[uncut tiger]

schengen visa

[hybrid herald]

Good one, immigration to usa when?

[uncut tiger]

it was a blue color

[thorny steeple]

😭

[uncut tiger]

with european union flag as icon

[golden jetty]

Like bro that'd go so well with the alhamdulilah

[raven forum]

and ye ur gonna believe that bs? all your data cannot be stored by a pvt coorp bro , use your dumb brain

[uncut tiger]

i got deported dude i cant go back now

[thorny steeple]

you have got to be joking

[golden jetty]

Whys it talking like that

[thorny steeple]

i told her to me like that

more human like

[raven forum]

bruh ofc im not

[thorny steeple]

friendly and funny

[hybrid herald]

I la vie en noir and i am noir
Matching

[formal pilot]

Manually add EU flag to your username

[thorny steeple]

whats your postion on veganism

and animals rights

[formal pilot]

Personally I don't see myself becoming one any time soon

[thorny steeple]

i didnt ask what you wan to be

[formal pilot]

If someone is vegan, I don't have any problems with it

[thorny steeple]

i ask what do you think about veganism

[thorny steeple]

ok

[formal pilot]

Ooh veganism as a movement

[thorny steeple]

why not becoming one?

[formal pilot]

I don't find it optimal

[manic juniper]

Is too dangerous

[thorny steeple]

ok

[formal pilot]

Yes, specially for young people

[thorny steeple]

goated album

[manic juniper]

I sent in the wrong chat

[tardy jay]

@wild glen I was concerned because of what's going on in the middle east. That's why I said stay safe

[hybrid herald]

Gng when someone Racist arrived ping me
(Not aladdin or diaz)

[wild glen]

Oh I see don't worry it's safe Alhamdulilah

[thorny steeple]

you dont have to

under my moraltiy i can eat a fish

and still be moral

some vegans like @edgy monolith has this perfect view of being absolute against harm which is already immpossible

[west torrent]

Native speaker?

[uncut tiger]

@manic juniper hey what you play on Minecraft

[wary oak]

Society has advanced past the need

[fresh flower]

Bro hasn't heard about canned food

[manic juniper]

Java and Bedrock, survival

But I don't like it much I just downloaded on the new PC to check performance

[rustic bramble]

Vegan principles don't say that you have to starve yourself in dire situations. Veganism is about the prevention of animal suffering and exploitation in a world with plenty of alternatives.

In most places around the world people have access to alternatives to the killing, eating, and exploitation of animals. In a scenario like that it becomes immoral to inflict suffering or death upon another conscious being so as to feed yourself

[dapper laurel]

Yes, It's a fish

[hybrid herald]

Sana is typing....

[high raven]

Petty? The killing wasn't just for the physical act itself, it was for willfully and knowingly defying a direct command of God and rejecting covenant duty

I'm not sure which answers you expect

[fresh flower]

You gotta reply in a way that enables an atheist "gotcha"

[winter echo]

Who remember this?
Wearing suit for iranian missiles?

[wary roost]

Epic picture

[winter echo]

Good old times

[wary roost]

Ahh 🥀 frr

[winter echo]

Can you explain this?

[wind bramble]

this chat still alive

well its actually dead rn

new topic

[high raven]

Deuteronomy

[turbid dome]

Feels a bit weird to take umbrage with commands to kill people for being of a different religion when your religion is the exact same thing but if you downgrade Jesus from the son of god to a prophet and add in some guy named Muhammad

[tall elm]

that what happens when u give an opinion without doing 3min search

just shut up

[turbid dome]

Can tell me to shut up but can’t call me wrong 😂

[tall elm]

this is not my job

[thorny steeple]

i base my morality on well well-being of humnas, which is decied by social contract and the species who come in social contract needs to have the capacity to understand rights

.
.

this is the most concise i could do of my defintion

im so proud of myself

im finally more robust

[manic juniper]

Cring

[analog hound]

@high raven Are you an Orthodox Christian? Or Protestant?

[thorny steeple]

shes methodist

i always she her near a bar

or at a beer shop

[analog hound]

Really?
Never met one actually

[thorny steeple]

im joking

[analog hound]

Oh come on 😂

[lost flume]

What is Methodist

[thorny steeple]

A Methodist is a member of a Protestant Christian tradition that originated from the life and teachings of John Wesley in the 18th century. Methodism, also known as the Methodist movement, emphasizes personal and social morality, faith, education, and has expanded globally with various denominations and churches, such as the United Methodist Church and the Global Methodist Church.

[lost flume]

Thankssss

[high raven]

Syriac Orthodox yes

[lost flume]

So many orthodox in chat

[analog hound]

So nice having lot's of Orthodox Christians in the chat

[analog hound]

I am Greek Orthodox
Are you Orthodox too?

[lost flume]

I was raised Greek Orthodox

[analog hound]

Really?
Where are you from?

[lost flume]

USA

[thorny steeple]

prove god

[mortal tangle]

Hi guys

[thorny steeple]

im sorry for you

[lost flume]

Thanks

[analog hound]

Let me give you an example
Once, I was almost hit by a car while riding my bike. I had a picture of the Virgin Mary in my pocket because I had lost the cross I wear around my neck, and I would never leave the house without protection. I didn't turn the handlebars of my bike; I know for sure that I didn't turn them. They turned just as the car was passing right next to me.

[thorny steeple]

default pfp ass user

[crystal kayak]

@high raven where have you been

[analog hound]

Are you ok?

[lost flume]

What

[analog hound]

Because you are living in the US

[lost flume]

Um

Yeah I’m cool

[thorny steeple]

beer shop

[winter echo]

I heard it's from the bible

[winter echo]

Christianity is much more violent than islam

[thorny steeple]

yes

then?

[turbid dome]

Historically, sure. In the text? Both are extremely violent

[winter echo]

Before you type anything I'll like to let you know this is my domain,
I'll just crush you

[turbid dome]

Your AI will try you mean

We’ve already had a certain member here say hitting your wife is halal in Islam

[winter echo]

I don't have to use the help of AI on this

[turbid dome]

How do you explain the violent language in the Quran?

[winter echo]

Who is the bastard who said that?

[turbid dome]

Flare

[high raven]

Not sure when you mean, I was working and then went to take my exam 😭

[high raven]

It is, you're not wrong, but it's Old Testament

[winter echo]

I'm running out battery

[cursive pagoda]

light theme

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[crystal kayak]

I haven't seen you chat here in two days

Ohh cool,I thought the madness of serious chat got to you

[thorny steeple]

gugu gaga

[thorny steeple]

its like bombing a nuclear

[brazen agate]

Use dark mode you'll get free 500% battery

[lost flume]

Ahon

[thorny steeple]

you can't get more than 100% more battery

[brazen agate]

You can

Use a pen.

[thorny steeple]

for what

[brazen agate]

Write.

[thorny steeple]

write what

[high raven]

No it's just discord 😭

Plenty of weird people around though I agree

[turbid ivy]

😔

[turbid ivy]

👀

[weary belfry]

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/whiskers-mmm-hmm-suspicious-sus-gif-11609747178733891907

[strange pagoda]

Someone to practice English

[vagrant fog]

Samsung s50 ultra

[thorny steeple]

im in

[covert elk]

👀👀

[turbid ivy]

[wicked flax]

Greetings, esteemed individuals! How are you all faring?

[turbid ivy]

Oo so what do you think about such thingy

[covert elk]

Sorry, what thing are you saying?

[turbid ivy]

Today I wanna share a very horrific story that used to happen in 7th to 8th century Mecca

👀

[covert elk]

Please, do. 😊

I'm curious about it.

[turbid ivy]

Great. But first I want you to read surah 33.59

Al hazab verse 59

🌚

[covert elk]

Done.

[turbid ivy]

What is the verse talking about

[turbid ivy]

O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies. In this way it is more likely that they will be recognized ˹as virtuous˺ and not be harassed. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
surah 33.59

Today i wanna talk about this little phrase not be harassed for not wearing hijabs.

@covert elk are you there?

one thing you would notice in that verse is referring to a group of women who are 'wives, daughters, and believing women, ie free women', the verse is missing the slave women unfortunately.. and that's what im gonna be sharing with you today.

[frail fern]

Hello all

[turbid ivy]

Hello hello

[turbid ivy]

@frail fern are you aware of this verse?

[wicked flax]

If you were endowed with the extraordinary capacity to foresee the precise moment of your own mortal dissolution, would you exercise the prerogative to know, thereby potentially recalibrating the trajectory of your existence, or would you elect to remain in a state of felicitous ignorance?

Or simply:
(If you could know the exact moment of your death, would you want to know? Why or why not?)

[covert elk]

Sorry, I'm out before.

[turbid ivy]

Still? I will be back after taking shower

[covert elk]

Personally, I choose not. Ignorance is a bliss, sometimes.
Why not? Cause I don't wanna be weary about when and how I'm gonna die. 🤭🤭

[covert elk]

No. I'm here now. Take your time.

[wicked flax]

Nice!

[covert elk]

What about you?

[wicked flax]

I would elect to remain in a state of felicitous ignorance.

[covert elk]

We're on the same page here.

[wicked flax]

Yeah!

I guess.

[golden jetty]

Is ignorance bliss?

[void ruin]

It refers to all Muslim womens

[void ruin]

Bliss for some and curse for others

[golden jetty]

Temporary comfort is for betas tho

[covert elk]

For some cases, yes.

[golden jetty]

Ignorance isn’t bliss because it confuses not noticing harm with not having harm, without knowledge you can’t assess your own welfare or prevent risks, so any “bliss” is just an untested illusion

[covert elk]

I personally believe there's always two sides of everything. Anything could bring you both to good and bad things. All we need is to be aware to keep things good for us and ofc didn't harm anyone else or bring devastation. 😊

[languid wolf]

Two sides for every coin, two sides for every story !

[golden jetty]

Do you agree with the saying "A prudent (expedient) lie is better than a truth that incites strife"?

[languid wolf]

sometimes ignorance is really blissful djow .. most successful people are ignorant of most of the BS going around in the world right now. It does take a lot of ignorance to focus on your own life !!

[covert elk]

Since I value honesty, I believe being true is always better.

[wicked flax]

Knowing the exact time of your death can create immense pressure and lead to relentless overthinking.

[golden jetty]

Yerrr

[turbid ivy]

Ok, cool, now let's read tafsirs

[turbid ivy]

Are slave women muslim women?

[high rapids]

Good morninf

G

[turbid ivy]

… (In this verse, Allah ordered the free women) to draw their Jilbabs over their bodies, so that they will be distinct in their appearance from the women of the Jahiliyyah and from slave women …
And Suddi said about the revelation of this verse 33:59 that the mischief-mongers among the people of Madīnah would come out on the streets at dusk and get after the women. The houses of the people of Madīnah [in those days] were very small in size and at nightfall the women would go out on these streets [making their way to the fields] to relieve themselves. These evil people would tease and molest these women. While if they saw a woman who would be wearing a Jilbab (cloak/outer garment), they would say she is a free woman [and not a slave] and would abstain [from molesting her] and if they saw a woman who would not be wearing a cloak, they would molest her by saying that she is a slave woman.
And Mujahid said that those women would wear cloaks [in the way prescribed by the Qur’ān] so that it be known that they are free women and the mischief-mongers would not then harm or molest them.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir 33.59
link: https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=7&tSoraNo=33&tAyahNo=59&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1
@covert elk

[void ruin]

Are you a Muslim?

[turbid ivy]

Christian

@covert elk are you there

[high rapids]

I hope so

[covert elk]

Yeah. I'm here. So, what's about it?

[formal pilot]

I agree

[golden jetty]

Typical lahori hornball behaviour

[formal pilot]

I'm from Lahore Pakistan and i believe in Balochistan's right to exist as an independent country

[golden jetty]

You live in lucknow fr and not for ragebait

[formal pilot]

Alright I'm not that inferior

[golden jetty]

Zindabad or murdabad?

[formal pilot]

Islamabad

[golden jetty]

Hyderabad

[slender coral]

He said that you should only hit the wife lightly though

[formal pilot]

Sure if she's into it

[tropic jay]

umm..

[formal pilot]

Which one? India and Pakistan both have hydrabad

[slender coral]

With a siwak, a thing Arabs used to clean their teeth. The guy didn't know how painful it is until an Arab responded to him and talked about his experience being hit with it by his parents.

Some people can be very ignorant and dumb

[golden jetty]

First time using your brain?

[formal pilot]

Arguably

[high rapids]

.

[sharp summit]

There is hyderabad in pakistan

[formal pilot]

Miswak?

[golden jetty]

No one cares

[formal pilot]

It's painful, I've been hit by miswak for not pronouncing غ perfectly

[sharp summit]

Weird

[tropic jay]

He's being rude without any valid reason

[sharp summit]

Hi

[golden jetty]

غ is so easy how are you that stupid

[slender coral]

Miswak - Wikipedia https://share.google/mfpNgllObvoqKx3h2

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/indian-bobble-uncle-thank-you-gif-25536894

[tropic jay]

Khair...

anything interesting around?

[formal pilot]

Yes, I'm familiar with it

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/miswak-toothbrush-araaq-sewak-gif-13951510

https://tenor.com/view/miswak-gif-18329065

[sharp summit]

Datun

[formal pilot]

It might be difficult at first, now I can perfectly pronounce it lol

[sharp summit]

The teeth are looking white cuz..

[golden jetty]

It was easy for me first try, I'm a good boy

Unlike you

[tropic jay]

O.o

[formal pilot]

I didn't know you were a Muslim

[tropic jay]

Ikr

[golden jetty]

That shit gives you gum recession, cave man invention

[golden jetty]

Who says I'm muslim

[formal pilot]

Are you a Muslim?

[formal pilot]

I bet you can't even say ع

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-whatever-over-it-forget-gif-23166016

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-underestimate-gif-7915876

[tropic jay]

Well, I would like to skip these questions because I've already seen some racist douches beside me

[formal pilot]

Sure, it's not that hard to encounter Islamophobs on discord

[tropic jay]

Indeed ...

I'm taking infinity to reply you back

Sighs

I'm just a beginner

[formal pilot]

It's alright, English isn't your native language

[tropic jay]

And i have a long way to improve my English skills

[formal pilot]

Eventually you'll become more fluent and it would be easier to discuss complex matters

[tropic jay]

Yup , English isn't my native language

[formal pilot]

It's not that difficult if you put your time in it

[golden jetty]

@tropic jay

[tropic jay]

Ahan n it takes time to drop some words if I would step in any intellectual discussions

[tropic jay]

I'm doing my best to spend some time on it but still...

[tropic jay]

What 😔

[formal pilot]

Just be active, don't hesitate to make mistakes, here in the English hub we correct each other without judging

[golden jetty]

Dont hide the truth when you know it bro, it says in 2:42, if you're muslim say it

[tropic jay]

I'm not hiding it, just not telling em,, see the difference man

O.o

[formal pilot]

Wasn't it obvious, and one should learn to respect other's boundaries

[tropic jay]

Saeee

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/yeaaaah-gif-18170915

[tropic jay]

Let him be... He's just trying to offend us with different different ways

[formal pilot]

Na, he's a good man, ik him

[formal pilot]

Let me in, I'll contribute to make Europe great again

[tropic jay]

😐ahan, kuch ziyada he acha hai

Well brb! Going to cut some veggies

[formal pilot]

All primary channels including serious chat are for English only
For other languages you can go to #1006555275152588901
https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1071795785332703252
https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1034097236138799164

[tropic jay]

I'm really good at chopping

[high rapids]

Rejected

[golden jetty]

Lol gotcha, you're pakistani

Rare exposed your ah

[tropic jay]

No he's not

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-air-quotes-gif-18226933

[tropic jay]

I'm from pak

[golden jetty]

How'd he understand urdu then

[high rapids]

Who cares

[formal pilot]

I'm fluent in multiple languages, I can speak urdu doesn't mean I'm pakistani lol

[golden jetty]

True you could be indian or afghan

[formal pilot]

Rn I'm learning Persian

[tropic jay]

Well most of the foreigners can speak Hindi or urdu

[formal pilot]

Why

[tropic jay]

No big deal in it

Ayee

[formal pilot]

Not most, I'd say only a handful

[tropic jay]

Brb!

[formal pilot]

Sure

[golden jetty]

Why would you do that to yourself

[high rapids]

Idk

[tropic jay]

Lemme say something before

[formal pilot]

Persian litrature is great

[golden jetty]

Like who

[golden jetty]

Let me in, I'll contribute to make Europe great again

[formal pilot]

Yeah because I might be black

[tropic jay]

@golden jetty aren't you an Indian Muslim guy who's trying to pull others in your lame conversation

See

I'm just assuming things like him 😔haww

[formal pilot]

Wrong chat

[high rapids]

I'm not going to put up with that conversation.

[golden jetty]

Love you bro

[formal pilot]

What would be the major contributing factor in making Europe great

According to you

[high rapids]

Don't let people like you in, you're just looking for trouble.

[golden jetty]

How do you know what he is lol

[formal pilot]

Sure

[high rapids]

Are you stupid?

[golden jetty]

No daddy

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/white-day-happy-white-day-gif-88077623617676868

[formal pilot]

I'd assume that was a sarcastic/ funny statement

[high rapids]

Its time for breakfast

[formal pilot]

Otherwise, it’s hard to fathom such words arising from a land that reveres logic and the discipline of empirical truth

[neat shore]

Let me lurk in this chat

Maybe i will learn something

[high rapids]

I will enjoy my breakfast because I am white and I am where I belong.

[neat shore]

L learning

Racist chat lmao

[high rapids]

Proof?

[feral river]

https://x.com/vividprowess/status/1980650784309277135?s=46

Vivid.🇮🇱 (@VividProwess)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BENJAMIN NETANYAHU 🇮🇱

The one and only. Israel's true leader.

He is 76 years old today.

What would you like to wish Benjamin Netanyahu? 🙏

X · Oct 21, 2025, 3:02 PM

[neat shore]

I can see chats

[feral river]

He deserve to live forever and lead Israel to finally eliminate terrorism

Happy Birthday 🇮🇱 Benjamin Netanyahu

[high rapids]

So is it racist to be proud of being white?

[neat shore]

😭don't pull me in this chat aahh

[slender coral]

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has | surah Nisa aya 34 https://share.google/lOaB9uKiSwPdxQDGX

[high rapids]

Isn't it racist to seek refuge in a country and then, as a non-white person, ra*e a 12-year-old white girl with ten other people

[neat shore]

Tell me more

[high rapids]

Now we see which one of us is the racist.

[neat shore]

Lol

I will just lurk here

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/emily-rhoc-white-people-gif-13798659

❤️

[golden jetty]

Are turks white?

[high rapids]

[golden jetty]

[high rapids]

Now I have to stop with the rage bait—they take it all seriously.

[golden jetty]

Idk why they do man, it's just dc

[high rapids]

Makava or Coffee?

[golden jetty]

Craft beer

[high rapids]

Hahahaha

[golden jetty]

Hbu

[high rapids]

?

[frozen cape]

nice

[slender coral]

As if white people don't commit sexual violence as well.

[high rapids]

Did i said that?

[slender coral]

No, but you did imply it. If you didn't mean that, you should be careful in what you say especially in sensitive topics.

[high rapids]

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[dusk ivy]

u never replied to me dene

[high rapids]

?

[dusk ivy]

she a professional ragebaitor

although its very obivious

3/10 ragebaiting

[slender coral]

There are people who actually believe some very stupid stuff.

[golden jetty]

What do you prefer

[golden jetty]

8/10 ragebaiting

[slender coral]

Anyway, let's talk about colonialism. It blows my mind how Europeans often accused others of savagery and uncivility when they were acting savagely and uncivily.
Atrocities in the Congo Free State - Wikipedia https://share.google/uOcjazw7SCf56e5iJ

[dusk ivy]

true

wish people treated serious channel in servers seriously and not to troll

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/yeaaaah-gif-18170915

[gritty echo]

Well they took everything from them, they made them slaves , they showed them in human zoos in Europe, they took their religion and language and gave them their, like french , Portuguese, English , and now the Europeans talking about I don't want African people in my country

It is just hypocrites

There are How many white guys in the French football team

[plain ruin]

Yo

[slender coral]

To be fair, not all Europeans today are like this. Hopefully we would live to see the day when conservative ideologies die in the west.

They changed a lot in the past couple of decades, and they can change more in the next for the better.

[dusk ivy]

Young Europeans i come across are generally liberal

Probably varies by country too ,East European are likely more conservative than West ones

[dusk ivy]

Gender likely influences political leaning as well , more western women tend to be liberal then western men

[feral river]

It’s not obviously

You can be a proud white without being racist

Some black supremacist shit would always use the excuse of how badly they were treated before to blame the white people and create racial conflicts

[golden jetty]

Where would you guys consider the west to be?

[winter echo]

Lies

[frozen cape]

Bitters

[winter echo]

Was it when people used to bury their female children?

[winter echo]

That's what you want to focus on?

[frozen cape]

Gotta start using Global North/South

[golden jetty]

Example?

[versed bane]

yo guys, you know what?

Yes, I'm serious!

[frozen cape]

Victoria Bitter

[golden jetty]

That's even worse

[rain lava]

Seriously

[versed bane]

ofc

[golden jetty]

So beer?

[frozen cape]

That's suppose to be the updated term

[frozen cape]

I suppose

[golden jetty]

Imo the best is the world bank classifications low, lower middle, upper middle, and high income

[frozen cape]

So Oman and Saudi Arabia are in the high income bracket

[high rapids]

Giorgia Meloni is my role model.

[subtle geyser]

Come to serious chat and you see two birds talking

[turbid ivy]

im in a vc if you wanna join

[high rapids]

We need more people like her in Europe

[covert elk]

Sorry. I'm busy now. Duty calls. 🥲🥲

[high rapids]

Victor Orban is great too

[golden jetty]

For sure

So are a few other "global south" countries

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/fahads-fahadz-serious-report-gif-15931896867289264115

[golden jetty]

Please don't daddy

[turbid ivy]

[fresh flower]

Nobu shocked that someone has a life outside of discord

[golden jetty]

Whos that

[high rapids]

I'm sorry

[last geyser]

Hello / 你好 / Hola / नमस्ते / Bonjour / مرحبا / হ্যালো / Olá / Здравствуйте / سلام / Halo / Hallo / こんにちは / Hello / أهلاً / नमस्कार / నమస్కారం / Selam / வணக்கம் / Xin chào

Guys

[golden jetty]

That's crazy work

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-apology-accepted-apologize-star-wars-youre-forgiven-gif-21611600

[frozen cape]

Why are those two in there

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-scar-i-am-surrounded-idiots-gif-22454341

[shell hemlock]

you're really going to give him what he wants

[golden jetty]

Threshold for high income is $13,935 based on the dollar value of a country's final income in a year, divided by its population. Both are well above the threshold

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-gif-2458926480630202354

@golden jetty

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/ssbm-melee-dan-on-god-bro-gif-22571231

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/stalking-gif-7357576

[golden jetty]

Are you well versed in the quran?

[high rapids]

[high rapids]

Take her to the KRANKENHAUS

[golden jetty]

Nah I'm more of a BOLNITSA type of guy

[high rapids]

HAHAHAH

What does 1383 mean?

[golden jetty]

Idek

What does make europe great again mean

[high rapids]

That's a secret

[golden jetty]

1383 is a secret too

[hidden shore]

Take her to Afghanistan, gaza instead

That culture fit for her

[shell hemlock]

why is it that every time i talk here, i get ridiculed when i haven't even said anything.

[shell hemlock]

no, i'm not knowledgable enough to debate over the quran, i'm a new revert

[golden jetty]

Whos ridiculing you? Let me go fight them

[plain ruin]

Because it's done for the sake of your identity rather than your beliefs

[shell hemlock]

jihadi

[high rapids]

Rejected

[shell hemlock]

i don't know how much more i can tolerate this 💀

[golden jetty]

Shawn you went so deep yesterday

I was lurking

[high rapids]

What's the problem

[hidden shore]

Europe mission

[high rapids]

Culture?

[hidden shore]

Culture?

[plain ruin]

Yeah you pretty much gotta ignore claims about you, that don't align with you
or leave
Kinda hard to do either sometimes

[hidden shore]

What country and religion has to do with culture

[hidden shore]

[plain ruin]

Had a lot of extra time to think yesterday, and a lot less stress

[shell hemlock]

i wish someone would put themselves in my shoes, imagine trying to talk about something else aside from islam but people will always hold that topic against you because you are muslim

that and also making personal attacks as soon as i join the chat

[high rapids]

You send a picture to the chat and want me to follow your train of thought?

[plain ruin]

Yeah, I know how that can feel, that's just their obsession though, ignore them idiots

[hidden shore]

Bruhh make Europe religious again

[high rapids]

Should I change my name to "Make Europe White Again"?

[plain ruin]

I mean, there is the EU

[high rapids]

Lets invade France

Good old times

[turbid ivy]

huh what 🙂

[turbid ivy]

unblock me i will help you, i have a big heart

[turbid ivy]

@fresh flower right?

[fresh flower]

Relax Nav

[high rapids]

When will Trump finally invade Venezuela?

[turbid ivy]

👶

[shell hemlock]

[fresh flower]

Let's go work in Dubai together

[high rapids]

You and Zazu got me muted for a gif lol

[turbid ivy]

if Lilharu is coming with us, sure?

[dawn mortar]

.

[high rapids]

May I join?

[shell hemlock]

what did i do again 💀

[thorny steeple]

hi

[turbid ivy]

why lol

[thorny steeple]

al-vindar the ford

[plain ruin]

I responded to your statement, they treat themselves like a "country" because of the European Union administration
And they unite to blame the EU's policies regarding asylum seekers and other issues

[high rapids]

Why not?

[fresh flower]

Dw about her, I can wear a hijab myself

[turbid ivy]

Do you think she would flirt with you, crazy?

[high rapids]

YOU UNDERSTAND IT OMG

[turbid ivy]

nah

[fresh flower]

Stop eating steaks with fakes and start eating macaroni with the one and only

[plain ruin]

You gotta pass...

[high rapids]

Im not interested lol

[golden jetty]

Im back gang has a war started in this chat lol?

[turbid ivy]

why you dont like her khyaha?

[fresh flower]

Normalise bullying Nobu

[high rapids]

Khyaha?

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/jailbreak-discord-disocrd-discord-jailbreak-fr-gif-27191220

[turbid ivy]

Lauhing khyahha

[plain ruin]

Why is Nobu obsessed with the idea of Lily flirting with people💀💀💀

Get in the chair already💀😭

[turbid ivy]

i hate when she flirts with other men, natural feeling lol

[shell hemlock]

i don't know about asian union but in southeast asia we have asean

[high rapids]

I would never flirt with ...

[turbid ivy]

''

[plain ruin]

You'd have to ask all the asian countries, my point is that the EU administration exists and they actively do have some level of administration, they administer all the countries within the continent so

[turbid ivy]

cute, which country btw

[plain ruin]

That feeling is called jealousy💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[turbid ivy]

why but i support her ig

[turbid ivy]

she doesnt see how much i care abt her lol

[plain ruin]

It's over dawg😭😭😭

[fresh flower]

I lowkey blame Lily too atp because she hasn't reported him

[shell hemlock]

although asean doesn't cover the entirety of asia

[plain ruin]

What does caring about her have to do with anything

[shell hemlock]

what did i do

[high rapids]

You and Zazu reported me

[golden jetty]

So freaky

[plain ruin]

Fym
It's like the IDF
They'll put the guy who ****** a palestinian, in prison for a couple days, then release him

[shell hemlock]

because of what

[turbid ivy]

Loving thy neighbours I meant

[shell hemlock]

nahhhhh

[fresh flower]

I saw a video of them doing it to a man 💔

[turbid ivy]

Lol nothing i did call harrass khyah

[plain ruin]

Dawg is obsessed😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

"Most Moral Army"

[turbid ivy]

[shell hemlock]

nobu ?

he got banned maybe 3 times now 🗿

[high rapids]

Who?

[shell hemlock]

i didn't report you

[plain ruin]

That's if you count a single account, 4 times more on his other ones atleast

[shell hemlock]

i simply left the conversation where i don't feel welcome

[fresh flower]

@magic olive Get him out of here bro

[plain ruin]

Bring back Ambrose🙏💯💯💯💯

[turbid ivy]

Innocency has no value nowadays lol

[golden jetty]

What are we discussing rn?

[fresh flower]

????💀💀💀

[plain ruin]

Dawg...???💯😭😭

[plain ruin]

It's like Carpe😭😭😭😭😭

[shell hemlock]

cambodians are becoming maga supporters tho, unfortunately

[turbid ivy]

People accusing me when I help them a lot ig

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[fresh flower]

I saw your question earlier but I forgot to reply. "Make Europe Great Again" isn't about all that, it's just a way of saying "Kick out all non-Europeans and make Europe Christian again"

There's nothing else to it, it's not that deep

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[plain ruin]

yeah idk why he's conflating that with Asians, or if he wants to test if "europeans" can actually answer that, because to be fair, none have

[golden jetty]

It's deep tho

[plain ruin]

nvm you're european

[high rapids]

It isn't

Yea and much hate

[plain ruin]

Basically

[fresh flower]

Yes

[turbid ivy]

Christianity helps Europe to boom in development

[shell hemlock]

is the european being racist a propaganda or is it factual

[slender coral]

Makes sense why their standards of living are worse.

[plain ruin]

💀💀💀

[fresh flower]

Idk about that but "right-wing" politics is the new norm here and more and more countries in Europe are taking a stronger anti-immigration stance

[magic olive]

#🛂｜report-help staff will deal

[golden jetty]

Nah

[turbid ivy]

It is actually

[fresh flower]

There's 2 sides to it though, those who want to kick out all immigrants (Even those who have integrated) and those who want to not take in more immigrants

[fresh flower]

@shell hemlock Go ahead bro

[plain ruin]

Depends on the country

[turbid ivy]

From 16th century to 20th century, Europe was booming with innovations cause of Christianity

[golden jetty]

Theres also the side of those who want illegal immigrants out but are cool with the legals

[cedar oar]

It's about proportionality and God's purported attributes—omnibenevolence, omnipotence, and omniscience—and his portrayal as "all‑merciful". It seems awfully unfair for Onan to receive the death penalty from the supreme being of the universe for what, in my opinion, is petty

But what about the other verses?

[shell hemlock]

what about the uk though ?

[golden jetty]

Innovations by whom? Christian thinkers lol?

[shell hemlock]

i believe they had some sort of little protest going on over immigrants

[golden jetty]

Or athiest thinkers?

[cedar oar]

Oh, come on. How is that a "gotcha"?

[fresh flower]

They're morons. Their country was built on immigration, now they act like they're better than immigrants

[shell hemlock]

i'm tired of it

[plain ruin]

Interesting, so this is Christianity according to you then, thanks

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[slender coral]

@high rapids the more liberal side of Europe have better living standards. Why try to hold onto conservatism?

[turbid ivy]

Onan was using a woman as an object he received the punishment for his crime

[cedar oar]

The typical responses. I don't believe this requires elaboration!

[shell hemlock]

didn't they colonize a lot of places too

[turbid ivy]

Slavery was common at that time

[plain ruin]

It started and grew in europe at the time💀💀💀💀💀

[turbid ivy]

Christianity doesn't allow slavery

[plain ruin]

You should take more effort to read💀

[shell hemlock]

i don't know much about politics honestly

but if you colonized a lot of countries, wouldn't you expect people to come and reside where you are as well ?

[golden jetty]

I don't either but it's better to make an effort to understand it

[fresh flower]

Only 22 countries in the world have never been invaded or colonised by the UK

[golden jetty]

Like which ones

[cedar oar]

Fair enough, but I really want to emphasize proportionality and the "all-merciful" aspect of God, not that he was justified in doing so

[slender coral]

The US is more obviously built upon immigration and many Americans now hate immigrants.

[plain ruin]

Factually, the development of europe in the time period you mentioned was because of slavery being established in the 1500s
Christianity didn't create any inventions
"Christianity doesn't allow slavery"
But you made the claim that it caused the "booming with innovations" dawg

[turbid ivy]

What do you mean by all merciful..? We have to keep in mind God is just, right?

[shell hemlock]

the thing is though, they don't even make effort to draw a proper border over those countries

[cedar oar]

What about the commands for slaves to be obedient (if I recall correctly)

[turbid ivy]

What was the cause for the Europe to develop?

[turbid ivy]

Define slavery?

[plain ruin]

Now let's make anime shitposts about Hirohito

[rotund urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-batman-batman-mr-batman-dance-indian-gif-27040906

[plain ruin]

Slavery
Slaves led to the growth of Europe, perfectly within the centuries you mentioned

[rotund urchin]

where's india

[cedar oar]

By all-merciful I'm referring to his portrayal as a benevolent, merciful God that is forgiving. It seems disproportionately harsh to receive the death penalty from such a god for such an action

[fresh flower]

I think they're counting Hong Kong as Japan for that one

[turbid ivy]

Source?

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀

[shell hemlock]

chad

[rotund urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gandhi-jayanti-gifkaro-greeting-wishes-gif-20950338

[plain ruin]

If I need to cite something as well known as that... I'm afraid you'll also need citations for the earth being round then?

[fresh flower]

Most dangerous character in the Civilization game

[rotund urchin]

[cedar oar]

The condition in which a person is owned or controlled by another and forced to work or obey against their will. I recall, however, reading that most of these passages refer to those wilfully subjected to pay debts (peonage)

[plain ruin]

"2 Mutual servers"

ANOTHER ONE

[sweet wolf]

Highkey

[plain ruin]

THE ALL OUT NUKES

[sweet wolf]

Such an effective way to deter potential occupation

[turbid ivy]

It's the mercy of God that he is expressing goodness by removing the disorder for the creations

[golden jetty]

Notice how it's not successfully invaded

So it's not all that impressive

[turbid ivy]

There are satellite photos that the earth is round by NASA

[fresh flower]

I disagree, I think it's the most successful empire in history given their population size

[cedar oar]

Then why not remove other much more evil "disorder"? Surely it would be more merciful to purify this disorder than to destroy it, as destroying it is itself contradictory to the all-merciful attribute?

[turbid ivy]

So the first definition is the slavery? That's not in the bible

[golden jetty]

Laughs in roman empire

[turbid ivy]

He does through sacrifice of the son

[cedar oar]

Would you admit that peonage is?

[turbid ivy]

Define it

[cedar oar]

Did what—remove evil? I'm quite sure it's still present

[high rapids]

.

[slender coral]

Williams, Eric. Capitalism and Slavery (1944): This seminal work argues that profits from the slave trade and slave-produced goods were critical to Britain’s Industrial Revolution. Williams details how wealth from slavery funded banks, ports, and industries.

Inikori, Joseph E. Africans and the Industrial Revolution in England (2002):Inikori quantifies the slave trade’s contribution to British economic growth, emphasizing its role in expanding markets and capital accumulation.

Beckert, Sven. Empire of Cotton: A Global History (2014):Beckert traces how slave-grown cotton from the Americas drove the global textile industry, a cornerstone of European industrialization.

Eltis, David, and Richardson, David. Atlas of the Transatlantic Slave Trade (2010):Provides data on the scale of the slave trade, showing how millions of enslaved Africans generated wealth for European economies through plantation systems.

Solow, Barbara L. (ed.). Slavery and the Rise of the Atlantic System (1991):A collection of essays exploring how slavery shaped the Atlantic economy, benefiting European powers through trade and resource extraction.

BBC History: Slavery and the British Economy:Articles on the BBC’s history website detail how profits from slavery funded British ports, banks, and industries.

[golden jetty]

Olivander cooking something up for sure

[wicked flax]

Guys! this guy is a se*ist

[fresh flower]

Ratio wise it wasn't even close, peak of British Raj had around 100k Brits governing over around 300 million Indians if I remember right. Not a single conquest in the Romans history had that high of a ratio, it's a different level of success

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-waving-brush-little-girl-baby-gif-17492145

[fresh flower]

True

[cedar oar]

I'd define it as: "The use of laborers bound in servitude because of debt"

[turbid ivy]

Yes the sin was stoned by the sacrifice of Christ

[prime wharf]

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[golden jetty]

Imo that's not a solid measure of success

[turbid ivy]

How much benefit?

[cedar oar]

I may be confused here. What exactly do you mean by it having been stoned? Please clarify and elaborate upon it

[high rapids]

Thats a lie

[wintry pier]

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[sweet wolf]

tbh we didn't have a sense of collective national identity or a concept of a country way back then

[prime wharf]

Guys you know what i used to be so shy and introvert and i reallyyy wanna to work on my personality in earlier times. I scrolled through youtube to find something that can help me but found nothing. then recently i came across this youtube channel called ' sanjeev datta personality school' they helped me alot. and they recently start a celebrity podcast with miss india and miss universe. They have amazing insights. I would recommend you guys also to have a look on that channel and subscribe because more celebrity will come soon.

[high rapids]

search for help

[turbid ivy]

So it's not forced because you paid them as a debt, and they are accounts payables?

[sweet wolf]

It really was a bunch of kingdoms and princely states that would be bribed easily or conquered one by one

[fresh flower]

Land area? The peak British empire was like 8 times larger than peak Roman. Romans only win by period of time, and only by like 150 years, most of which weren't even stable

[sweet wolf]

The mughal empire, maratha empire, kingdoms of mysore and travcancore

[prime wharf]

youtube channel - sanjeev datta personality school. Go have a look, its really good

[slender coral]

It's hard to make a solid estimation, but it certainly was huge. I read before that it was valued over $2.5 trillion dollars in 2020 USD value. But I'd need to get a source for that give me a second.

[high rapids]

go away

[fresh flower]

Divide and conquer is too powerful💔

[turbid ivy]

Source of the estimated funds? Or it's 2 usd

[fresh flower]

Didn't the sikhs more or less roll over and help the Brits too

[sweet wolf]

Idc nerf miner and boss bandit

[fresh flower]

Idk if I remember that right

[cedar oar]

The consent varies. I'm unsure whether it's referring to forced or consensual peonage, but would you mind adopting the former definition for further debate? I believe it's more interesting

[plain ruin]

The biggest driver to European economy was colonialism, which primarily focused on invading countries (not allowed in Christianity), forcefully converting people (not allowed in Christianity), enslaving people (not allowed in Christianity according to you)

Source your claim now: #🧠｜serious-chat message

Sources for my claim:
https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/slavery-and-british-industrial-revolution
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/slavery-and-the-rise-of-the-atlantic-system/slavery-and-lagging-capitalism-in-the-spanish-and-portuguese-american-empires-14921713/D4C88229A6D3CC46A23B5D2998F07ED0
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41105067

[fresh flower]

Wyd bro you can't send sources here

We just make things up

[turbid ivy]

Sure

[astral radish]

hi all, I found an app to learn the vocabulary you want, its name is Dictionapp if you want to try it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiomuxatech.dictionapp&utm_source=play_console_redirect

[fresh flower]

Do you think he'll ever realise?💀💀💀

[turbid ivy]

How is that boom in economy?

[plain ruin]

I'll ping him, @summer sphinx will you realise bro

[sweet wolf]

5 big booms for you

[cedar oar]

Thanks. By that definition, I don't believe it's appropriate, even for indebted people, to be commanded thus—especially because they weren't consensually admitted into peonage

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/costco-guys-stream-tiktok-costco-guys-gif-4538176206507523730

[plain ruin]

Unpaid labour as opposed to paid labour
Taking of resources as opposed to trading for them
What the fuck💀

[sweet wolf]

Holy shit carpe v nobu would be a spectacle

[golden jetty]

Roman empire built for the long haul, a lot of roman infrastructure (roads, bridges, water systems) lasted well into modern times. British imperial infrastructure often served extraction/trade and was uneven after independence

[sweet wolf]

Literally call me if that happens

[turbid ivy]

They were well aware and consented to work for them to pay the debt? Because that was the operating system to pay the debt

[plain ruin]

Bro check dms rq

[turbid ivy]

How much?

[plain ruin]

Stop strawmanning, source your claim
#🧠｜serious-chat message

[turbid ivy]

How much money ? Else 2 usd

[plain ruin]

Strawman count: 3

[golden jetty]

Olivander I want you to cook up sum real good

[slender coral]

Sooo, I found this but I haven't read it yet I just skipped to the conclusion, and holy f*ck that's a huge amount of money.

As summarized in Figure 11 and Table 34, our analyses quantified reparations compensation of
US$100 trillion to US$131 trillion. While these are almost unimaginably large amounts of money, in the preceding sections we have shown that the magnitudes are reasonable given the depth (the harm per person), breadth (the number of people harmed) and duration of theharm, as well as the delay in making reparations. In this section, we show what these reparations would represent to the enslaving countries, especially in the context of their economic performance from the time when they sponsored slavery to the present.

[turbid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-staring-cat-stare-stare-cat-staring-cat-cat-looking-gif-2942271292240810632

[turbid ivy]

Who told you? 👀

[cedar oar]

We adopted the definition that didn't include consent. But even if it did, I don't believe such commands are warranted

[craggy heron]

Suggest me best plagiarism websites for uni research paper🙏😭

[turbid ivy]

We have to include that definition because it's biblical

[coral belfry]

bro cant read💀

[turbid ivy]

Who told you? 👀

[golden jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/android-meme-low-quality-gif-25555296

[turbid ivy]

Where did he get that from

[plain ruin]

When are you gonna realise that Nobu doesn't argue in good faith?
I wanted to see to what length the poor guy would go to back up his claim
He hasn't done anything to back up his claim, he's strawmanning so that he doesn't have to admit he's wrong

[turbid ivy]

I don't see any relevent sources

[slender coral]

It's a very detailed study it seems. You can read it if you wanna dive into the depth.

[plain ruin]

Neither do I #🧠｜serious-chat message

[cedar oar]

But you did accept using the other definition. Nonetheless, even with consensual peonage they deserve dignity, which I see the passage as partially infringing upon

[turbid ivy]

From which source?

[slender coral]

Well, I'm waiting for my lecture to begin so I don't mind killing some time.

[coral belfry]

you give us your sources first

[turbid ivy]

Getting paid for the job is not a dignity?

[turbid ivy]

About?

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-dodge-neo-gif-13288848

[slender coral]

I haven't read it yet so Idk. But y'know, such studies are used as sources for the credibility of the people and the institutions that make them.

[cedar oar]

Getting told to be obedient isn't

[turbid ivy]

So much made up words doesn't help, requires sources

[coral belfry]

your claims

[cedar oar]

But what about the other topic? Let me see where it is

[turbid ivy]

So they should rebel?

[slender coral]

You read the study?

[turbid ivy]

Which is?

[turbid ivy]

Uuh?

[coral belfry]

you dont know?

[cedar oar]

Here

[turbid ivy]

About what?

[coral belfry]

what

[turbid ivy]

?

[plain ruin]

For the comedic value, sure
That's the only reason I bother when people say ridiculous things and have double standards

[slender coral]

Uuh what? Have you read the study?

[coral belfry]

you dont know what you are claiming?

[turbid ivy]

kahha

[turbid ivy]

Which one?

[cedar oar]

Of course! No, but obedience shouldn't be commanded upon them

[turbid ivy]

What 😄

[plain ruin]

You think he reads... anything😭

[slender coral]

The one I shared, QUANTIFICATION OF REPARATIONS FOR
TRANSATLANTIC CHATTEL SLAVERY.

[plain ruin]

He's strawmanning asking you "which one" instead of saying "yes" or "no"
"THE" study😭😭😭😭 ONLY ONE STUDY HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT😭😭😭😭

[coral belfry]

tell me what are you claiming
and give me sources to prove that claim

[turbid ivy]

So what they should command? If they shouldn't obey to work then how would they pay the bill? By rebellion? Kahha

[turbid ivy]

According to which source?

[slender coral]

Some people aren't very smart 😅
I assume lack of intelligence rather than ill-intent.

[turbid ivy]

Sahih al bhukhari 5068

[cedar oar]

No, by simply doing their work. I suppose it's the tone I dislike

Of course they should pay it by rebellion, darn it

[plain ruin]

Absolutely ill intent if he cannot cite his own sources or has to ask you for sources you already cited, which have their own cited sources

[sweet wolf]

Having this much time on your hands is a future I desire

[plain ruin]

I'll tickle you bro

[covert elk]

Wait, is he the same person as yesterday? I thought he was somebody else. 😭😭😭😭

[turbid ivy]

That means they should be obedient while working not in rebellion.

So you debt the money, but they should rebel now? Suppose Guy named A took a loan from you but at the time of payment, he took your wife and run away.. is that what you want?

[plain ruin]

Yes, same person, same obsession

[sweet wolf]

No one has tickled me since I turned 18 I have lost all sensation

[slender coral]

Well, as I said I haven't read it yet, but as I'm reading through it now they cite other studies, explaining their approach and methodology.

[plain ruin]

I'll bring it back

[sweet wolf]

Nothing's new

[turbid ivy]

Well first finished it else 2 usd

[turbid ivy]

You came back? Good 👍

[slender coral]

Dude, what do you mean?

[turbid ivy]

First finish the study and give me manuscript

[plain ruin]

💀💀💀💀💀

[slender coral]

@plain ruin 😭

[plain ruin]

Devil bro, I gotta show you something

[turbid ivy]

[slender coral]

Y'know, you can use an LLM for that lol
Have some curiousity, dude.

[turbid ivy]

Which is

[summer sphinx]

Dame un grr un qe

[slender coral]

AI

Chatgpt can do that

[high raven]

Proportional by whose standards? Yours or God’s? Onan wasn’t killed for a minor mistake, despite it being your opinion, he deliberately defied a direct command that was part of God’s covenant plan. Regarding your second point, claims about God’s benevolence and mercy aren’t human‑defined, they don’t excuse wilful rebellion. Omniscience and omnipotence mean that He judges perfectly, seeing intent and context we cannot, and acts according to ultimate justice, not arbitrary human preference of yours or mine.

Which other verses are you referring to? You sent Exodus and Leviticus if I remember right, I don't recall the context

[plain ruin]

peep dms

[covert elk]

Okay. I skip, then. Thanks for informing me this. ☺☺

[summer sphinx]

Mangoes Mangoes Mangoes

[summer sphinx]

Get a room u two

[cedar oar]

My point is about the tone, not whether they should work or not. It should treat them as laborers trying to pay a debt, not as property.

But yes, I would very much like the person who owes me money to run away with my wife

zwingli, excuse me for a minute

[plain ruin]

I'll tickle you bro

[covert elk]

I'm the one who new here. 🥺😭😭

[turbid ivy]

Source of ai is?

[plain ruin]

Have a good day sis

[shell hemlock]

yes same person

[turbid ivy]

If you work in a company, you get paid and the rule says obey the boss
Is that bad?

[covert elk]

Thanks, bro. ☺

[plain ruin]

He doesn't have to have any curiosity, he needs to get back to working on hatred on discord for 8 hours a day

[covert elk]

Thanks for letting me know. 🥺🥺

[turbid ivy]

She's lying

That's a diff dude

[plain ruin]

Bro💀💀💀

[turbid ivy]

Alrighty

[slender coral]

The report Quantification of Reparations for Transatlantic Chattel Slavery seeks to estimate, in economic terms, the value of reparations owed for centuries of African enslavement and its continuing impacts. The authors provide an analytical, data-driven framework that separates two major periods of harm: (1) the era of chattel slavery itself, and (2) the post-emancipation period of persistent racial and economic inequality.

Using a “building-blocks” approach, the study quantifies categories of loss such as unpaid labor, loss of life and liberty, physical and psychological injury, and gender-based violence. Each harm is assigned a monetary value where sufficient historical and economic data exist, then adjusted to present-day terms using interest and discount rates. The authors also assess modern harms by comparing racial wealth disparities and lost economic opportunities of descendants of the enslaved.

Their calculations estimate that the value of reparations for the enslavement period ranges from US $77 trillion to US $108 trillion, depending on assumptions. For post-emancipation harms, the figure adds about US $20–23 trillion, producing a combined total exceeding US $100 trillion in present-value terms. The report also outlines how liabilities might be distributed among former slave-trading and slave-holding nations, including the United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain, and the United States.

While the estimates are necessarily conservative, the authors emphasize that these numbers represent only a portion of the true damage. Many losses—cultural destruction, trauma, community disintegration, and intergenerational deprivation—remain unquantified. The study concludes that any comprehensive reparations program must combine financial restitution with broader measures of justice, rehabilitation, and institutional reform.
-chatgpt

[plain ruin]

Devil, check DMs

[turbid ivy]

Whats the source of chatgpt

[high raven]

Clanker

[cerulean pivot]

With or against Great isreal

[turbid ivy]

Old Israel?

[slender coral]

Could you read the conversation again? Chatgpt summarized the study we were talking about.

[cerulean pivot]

Even the old one wasn't that big

[coral belfry]

The Prophet (ﷺ) used to visit all his wives in one night and he had nine wives at that time
-the translator, Muhsin Khan

[turbid ivy]

From where?

[turbid ivy]

It had covered the Lebanon

[cerulean pivot]

Are you nobu

[turbid ivy]

Now read sahih al bhukhari 5133

[slender coral]

We started from here @turbid ivy

[turbid ivy]

Nope 🙅‍♂️

[cerulean pivot]

Share the same one broken braincell

[turbid ivy]

It's tak tak 😕

[plain ruin]

That's nobu

[turbid ivy]

I see 👀

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah it shows

[high raven]

In the words of @feral river : Long live the war on terrorism 🇱🇧 🇵🇸 🇮🇶 🇾🇪 🇮🇷 🇸🇾

[plain ruin]

He changed from "zwingli" some 10 minutes ago and claimed he's a different guy💀💀💀💀💀

[cedar oar]

Proportional to the standards of what most (that being, of course, me and anyone that agrees with me!) would consider reasonable. He "spilled his seed," was the offense, no? I'd like to clarify that before proceeding.

And about his attributes; they are human-defined as humans did interpret Scriptute to assign those attributes to God. And how would our judgements be arbitrary? This is rather subjective.

[slender coral]

@cerulean pivot check ur dms.

[plain ruin]

did you send it to him😂

[coral belfry]

read it
what is wrong with it

?

[turbid ivy]

Using a woman as an object is goodness? By which standard it's morally good?

That's called the analogy, that doesn't mean your attribute is similar as God's

[turbid ivy]

Child marriage is what's wrong?

[plain ruin]

Alkuwayt is safe
WATANY ALKUWAYT SALIMTA LIL-MAJDY🙏💯

[cedar oar]

Not goodness. It's about proportional punishment. I'd like to argue with Sanna first as I dislike arguments with multiple people concurrently

[coral belfry]

the definition of child marriage you are using is modern

[turbid ivy]

God removing the defects is the goodness of God.

[turbid ivy]

So which definition do you use?

[slender coral]

Low skill gaslighter.

[turbid ivy]

She would respond within an hour, she's working.

[cedar oar]

I suppose we could argue before she returns.

If that is so, why hasn't he removed that which is more evil? Isn't it, by that standard, bad to not remove evil?

[plain ruin]

Makes the 2020 Liver King look completely honest

[turbid ivy]

What is more evil? 🤔

[cedar oar]

Murder comes to mind

[hidden shore]

time to go omegle trolling people

[turbid ivy]

Murder is lack of goodness. Good has provided sufficient grace to overcome from hatred like murder. In that sense he has removed evil.

[plain ruin]

"It's only right when he does it and makes the rules and no one else"

[turbid ivy]

[cedar oar]

I don't quite understand this. If it's the absence of good, isn't that other crime also the absence of good?

[turbid ivy]

Yes sin or evil is the absence of goodness. People commit evil when they lack God's grace in their life. God has provided sufficient grace to overcome evil

[turbid ivy]

Yes sin is the disobedient towards God when we lack God [the highest Good]

[slender coral]

I feel like I got desensitized to violence, but I still can empathize. I can look at very hard shit to watch, men, women, children, or even animals going through unbearable stuff, but I can still feel bad for them in the back of my mind, and hope they do better after the bad thing they went through.
Of course though, I'm truamatized. I think seeing such stuff, especially when I was a minor, contributed to my anxiety disorder.
But despite the desensitization, I can still feel terrible for sentient beings' suffering.

Our brains are really interesting.

[cedar oar]

Then it is an evil, which would make it more evil? This is, I must admit, very confusing. Onan's crime doesn't seem to be worse than genocide, yet the latter doesn't cause divine death

[fresh flower]

How nobu still here

[plain ruin]

Atleast you don't retcon what's right and wrong

[turbid ivy]

What is an evil?

Using a woman as an object to satisfy selfish desire... is evil. Evil is an evil.

[hidden shore]

BTW if religions are so good, why everyone insted of using a religion as a national right in human sociality?

[fresh flower]

Why's bro discussing Christianity with a Hindu

Fuck is this channel 😭

[plain ruin]

Ask a fake christian

[cedar oar]

Yes, but I'm asking why Onan is punished for what is a lesser crime than, say, genocide

[hidden shore]

the whole world should choose one religion, that means we wont have any conflicts over religions

[plain ruin]

Did you come here to learn english dawg

[fresh flower]

He wouldn't know, he's a Hindu. Why are you asking him

[plain ruin]

Nvm good on you for deleting that, this is the racist channel

[thorny steeple]

No cuz, I was bored

[plain ruin]

Fair

You'll see a lot of funny people in this channel

[thorny steeple]

Is this 🆓 speech server btw?

[fresh flower]

No

[plain ruin]

Pretty close to there, but you cannot violate Discord TOS

[turbid ivy]

It shows the justice that he was punished for his crime.
Onan is punished for his crime

[plain ruin]

Worst they'll do is ban you for a few days and allow you back in 15 times

[cedar oar]

I will admit that this strayed from the original argument about proportionality. We're currently addressing what evil is, the absence of good, and why the perpetrators of much worse crimes aren't punished by divine death

[thorny steeple]

Let me guess, U all r broke and people mostly here to flirt?

[turbid ivy]

UN uses biblical values

[plain ruin]

Most of them are

The rest of us laugh at them

[turbid ivy]

They go to hell. They reprobate as a means of justice

[rain lava]

U can be racist . (If u wanna get banned)

[hidden shore]

What do you mean by that

[thorny steeple]

What if I do this? Unexpected

[turbid ivy]

Matthew 7:12

[cedar oar]

Let's ignore proportionality for now—I'll settle that with Sanna—and move onto this, then. By the former sentence, I'll accept that Onan deserved his punishment. But, as I consider it a lesser crime and believe most would—when compared to genocide—why are the perpetrators thereof not punished the same, or even a worse way?

[cedar oar]

Yes, but that allows them to do evil on earth, which is not removing evil

[plain ruin]

Its subjective, there's a level of of hatred that if you cross, EnglishHub will ban you for a while, you can just appeal and get back in the server though

[turbid ivy]

They do get punished. That's why hell exists

[thorny steeple]

Let me be funny then! Don't be angry ok

[turbid ivy]

He has provides the free grace to overcome evil.
God has allows evil things to happen to bring goodness out of it

[gloomy lichen]

"God is ok with evil"
yikes

[rain lava]

U can try. Btw im serious 🥰

[cedar oar]

Then why not allow that free will to Onan?

[turbid ivy]

That's why we should aquire make a Christian nationalism to punish the evil

[thorny steeple]

@rain lava You're my finale and my genesis —
even in losing, I find my victory.
These flowers 🌸🌷🌼 remind me of you,
for nothing blooms with such beauty… except you.

[turbid ivy]

How

[gloomy lichen]

If God is the first cause of everything, then everything that follows.

[turbid ivy]

He had the freewill to choose life and death.. he chose death.

[gloomy lichen]

There is no free will with Biblic or Muslim religion.

[turbid ivy]

What do you mean by everything? Because evil is not a thing or a being

[turbid ivy]

Define freewill

[cedar oar]

No, I believe we're going in circles. You claim that God grants free will and people are punished in Hell for their wicked actions, yes?

[gloomy lichen]

Could God create a universe without evil ever existing?

[plain ruin]

Forgetting one

[turbid ivy]

Sure

[gloomy lichen]

the power of acting without the constraint

[rain lava]

You need to be racist…

[blazing flicker]

Jump to original message

[turbid ivy]

If you read genesis, God has created everything Good. That would imply God didn't create evil.

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/attack-penguin-king-the-super-mario-bros-movie-forward-get-them-gif-26913735

[gloomy lichen]

If god created everything, where did evil come from?
Did god create a universe without knowing that evil will exist?

[thorny steeple]

@rain lava But I'm not a f*ckin racist. I'm tryna impress you with my romantic-lines. Hey dear Lady💕👩🏻 O you of beautiful face, Thy face as adorable as the full moon. Your voice as sweet as the song of the Cuckoos🐦, You are tender as the butterflies🦋, You're meek as a fawn. Thy cheeks has a pinkish-glow as peach🍑, Your lips are comparable to the rippen-strawberries🍓, your hips r lage as a barrel. Your skin as soft as a foam. You smell like a lavender. You're hot & alluring as the finest pepper🌶 and O lady of slender waist, your appearance resembles the celestial-damsels, who possessed the enchanting beauty. 𝙾 𝚖𝚢 𝚕𝚘𝚟𝚎💝 𝙸 𝚠𝚊𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚍 𝚝𝚘 𝚎𝚡𝚙𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚜 𝚖𝚢 𝚍𝚎𝚎𝚙-𝚏𝚎𝚎𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚢𝚘𝚞, 𝚊 𝚝𝚑𝚘𝚞𝚜𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚒𝚖𝚎𝚜.

[cedar oar]

Then why did God kill Onan, thereby negating his free will to commit evil and be punished for it in Hell, but did grant it to perpetrators of genocide, allowing them to naturally die and be punished in Hell? It's awkward phrasing, but I do hope it gets the point across

[turbid ivy]

Evil comes from the freewill of human beings. When human beings make choices , they make choices opposing the goodness of God, that's called evil. So evil is the privation of Goodness that arise when human beings wills to choose evil

[turbid ivy]

2. No

[gloomy lichen]

Did God chose to create humans knowing they will cause evil?

[cedar oar]

Omniscience entails it

[turbid ivy]

If God killed onan. It shows Onan deserved the punishment for his crime.
About people who commit genocide.. they eventually perish.. they can't escape the hell.

[gloomy lichen]

Then the question is.
If god is all knowing, he knows who will go to heaven or hell before they are even born

which goes againts "free will" idea

[turbid ivy]

God's knowledge is eternal . He knew human beings would commit evil.

[cedar oar]

We are going in endless circles, aren't we? Don't you notice the double-standard, of Onan being punished prematurely while the others are not?

[gloomy lichen]

So if god knows all aspects of a human life before they are even born. There is no free will

[cedar oar]

I'm supporting your argument, darn it!

[turbid ivy]

They will get punished eventually..

[turbid ivy]

Define freewill

[torpid dirge]

Why did he choose death over life even though he had Free will to live?

[gloomy lichen]

You could ask em
"If the great flood happened, then god was ok with killing innocent babies"

[turbid ivy]

Because he wanted to evil

[gloomy lichen]

the power of acting without the constraint

[cedar oar]

God, damn it. Yes, but the damned point is that Onan received his punished prematurely, while the others were allowed to murder groups of people until natural death, while the former was killed for a lesser crime

[turbid ivy]

God is the giver of life he gave them. If he takes that belongs to him, he has the right to do that.

[gloomy lichen]

"IF GOD WANTS TO KILL BABIES, LET EM"

lmao

[turbid ivy]

If you have build the house in your property..do you hold the Authority to destroy the house?

[cedar oar]

Or hell (zing!), why did he afflict all of Egypt with plagues for one man's sins? I will eventually ask that, but the argument is currently about something else

[gloomy lichen]

Bad analogy.
We are talking about God who is ok with creating beings that will cause suffering.

[torpid dirge]

So choosing death over life Makes you evil ? Doesn't make sense

[turbid ivy]

Onan also committed evil. She was allowed . God allows evil things to happen to bring goodness out of it. If you see here.. he punished him. And it was better for the woman who was suffering. Genociders parishes in wars and hell

[gloomy lichen]

"God allows evil things to happen"
God enables Sin

[turbid ivy]

There is a meaning in suffering.

[turbid ivy]

Allowing is not commanding

[gloomy lichen]

He is enabling suffering to persist.

[cedar oar]

She or he? I find it futile to continue as I keep stating my damned point about the double-standard and receive the same reply

[turbid ivy]

What do you mean by choosing death?

[turbid ivy]

What do you mean by enabling?

[turbid ivy]

Who?

[cedar oar]

I'll state my point the final time as I must soon go. Onan was prematurely killed while the genocide perpetrators were not. That is a double-standard

Okay, I've got to go. 'Twas a pleasure arguing. I'll be back today

[gloomy lichen]

If God knew people would do bad things before creating them, then by creating them anyway, He allowed those bad things to happen.

[plain ruin]

@gloomy lichen @cedar oar yall should hopefully get the point by now that the guy believes that "It's right when God sets the rules and and actions, and breaks them"

[gloomy lichen]

I wonder if they would bite the bullet at something like "if someone commits a terror attack. Then its ok because it was God who created it"

[plain ruin]

It's a series of retcons "No no no it's not okay now"

[gloomy lichen]

I just love when they bite bullets tho D:

[tulip drift]

What's the topic here ?

[plain ruin]

You should see this conversation
#🧠｜serious-chat message

He strawmans and doesn't bite bullets, because he doesn't want to

He knows the consequences

Not a single source for his claim till now, when given multiple sources for our claims, he asks "where's their source"💀💀💀

[gloomy lichen]

ah unlucky. I actually hate people who say "I dont engage with hypotheticals". Then they talk about magic

[high raven]

The standard in that context is covenantal obedience, not majority opinion. The offense wasn’t just "spilling his seed", it was rebellion against a divine command. You're somewhat right on the second point though, scripture describes God’s attributes, but our grasp is limited, so our judgments are subjective because we don’t see intent, context, or ultimate purpose. God does, which is why His justice isn’t arbitrary, even if it seems so, or seems harsh to you or me.

That's just our take on it though, I'm not sure how a Catholic or someone else would see it

[turbid ivy]

Did onan commit evil? So he was allows to do so?

[plain ruin]

"It's only right when you don't engage in hypotheticals🤬
When I do it it's beautiful, glorious and a part of God's plan😁"

[turbid ivy]

How does that negate freewill?

[gloomy lichen]

imagine reading a book.
Would you ever expect the story to change?

[turbid ivy]

Onan commited Evil.
A genocider is called a genocider when he commits genocide.
So in your both statements, two parties committed sins

[plain ruin]

"Retconning is only allowed when I do it 😠"

[turbid ivy]

Book is a not human being with a freewill. God knowing something doesn't violate the freewill of a human beings.

[gloomy lichen]

define anology plz 🙏

[turbid ivy]

God's knowledge Doesn't cause necessity

[turbid ivy]

you are saying the book is a man. Doesnt work, the book doenst make choices.

[gloomy lichen]

Yes or No
Does God knows someones entire life (every choice they will ever do)?

[turbid ivy]

Yes, God knowing something that they will do doesn't cause them to do it

Again, what is freewill?

[gloomy lichen]

Is god the creater of everything? yes or no?

[turbid ivy]

What do you mean by everything?

[gloomy lichen]

for the sake of this convo. This universe.

[turbid ivy]

Sure,, God created this universe.

[fresh flower]

There should be a warning next to Nobu's name that says (This guy will use AI)

[gloomy lichen]

Therefor if god is creater of everything (that happenes in this universe). He caused sin to happen.

[turbid ivy]

Everything doesnt emply causing evil things to happen. YOu said everything emplies universe, the universe is the collection of the order of substances. SO, God created beings or substances. That doesnt include evil.

Because Evil is not a substance.

[gloomy lichen]

So if God made the beings and knew they’d commit evil acts, then God knowingly created the conditions that make evil possible.

[plain ruin]

Hmmmmm

[turbid ivy]

That's the providence of God that Goodness would triumph over evil. So yes, God knew people would commit evil. But again, God didnt cause evil. So when you say he caused evil, you are in error.

[plain ruin]

Let's go back here, he also hardened the Pharoah's heart intentionally, here, so that the Pharoah would not let the Jews leave

[gloomy lichen]

But if God designed everything, knew exactly what each being would do, and still created them, then God caused a reality where evil must exist.

[turbid ivy]

https://nobuyubu.wordpress.com/2024/05/04/did-god-create-evil-isaiah-457/

[plain ruin]

Lets see

[plain ruin]

The thing doesn't even load

[turbid ivy]

Knowing the fact doesnt causing it. If you know the sun will rise tommorrow, you are not causing it, you just know about it.

God created people with their freewill

[gloomy lichen]

God caused this universe to exist.

Therefor he caused evil.

[gloomy lichen]

Also ur anology implies that God did not know of evil when he created the universe.

[turbid ivy]

what is that

[turbid ivy]

universe is not evil, evil is not a being, try again

[sharp creek]

STOP GUESSING you cant prove it

fkkkkkkk

[turbid ivy]

God knew everything.. doenst change the fact. he didnt cause evil

[gloomy lichen]

did god create this universe knowing evil will exist? Yes or no?

[turbid ivy]

Define evil?

[plain ruin]

There's a simple very logical argument that he did create evil Nobu.

[turbid ivy]

incase if you know what we are talking abt, you gotta define those terms