#🧠|serious-chat
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hi
I heard about only minors can work in that factories
neither we accept refugees
voluntarily yes you can but it's unlawful to get paid or sign a contract as you are a minor
minor works doesn't exist in developed regions
Ohh cheap production I see
mostly it appears in Xinjiang, Tibet and other western provinces
I'll have to do some research on arab culture during jahilliya
You mean, yeah there are concentration camps in these regions especially in Xinjiang
yes but mostly targeting terrorists and people who violate the law under the local authority
marrying Uyghur women to Chinese men for assimilation, etc.
Or banning their culture
Or language or religion
Yeah it seems so peaceful
assimilation wasn't some secret or something that should not be promoted in our country
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basically every immigrant get into other country would be assimilated
or else it's not immigration it's invasion
So destroying other cultures is okay for you
Oh so you are accepting these inhumanity things
Well nice to hear
culture by the immigration does not exist in here and it will never be exist
that's not destroying the culture, but we refuse other cultures
You are just invaded this lands ,
oh really ? prove that by using your gun to take it back
try hard to do that I promise you will pay a huge price
The same thing , you are destroying the culture , with refuse other cultures
okay
If someday a country stops protecting kids he'll protect them
Are you nuts?
The aliens are less than 10% of the population, moreover they are contributing immensely to the US economy.
The main reason the US is the largest economy NO 1 because of the HB1 program.
what else I'm expecting to say
Meh why Chinese people are just the same in every century
womp womp these are illegals, terrorists, they are being high disruptive to the US society
and they will be deported and prosecuted due to their activity
this is how the world works dumbass
accept our rule if you want to come here
Every time they say, we are the greatest nothing can beat us, I mean Even if they are not at war with other countries, they are divided among themselves.
even you have to obey the law of the US if you come into the US
Nah I like eating real food
Not dogs are bugs
ofc you gotta respect our law and rule if you want to come here
I mean
and we are not welcoming any asshs or refugees or illegal immigrants or even terrorists
China is never going to be the next immigration trash can
if u can't respect their culture just ignore it's not that hard
Where is Jack ma
cultural unity is a very important sector of achieving national unification
True
True
then why would you question our assimilation policy
The last time I heard a terrorist attack on the US soil was about 20 years ago .
What are you on?
No kidding
asssimiation wasn't like I have to kill you if you don't become one of us, assimilation is we had their next generation that is part of us and you will be just fine
Nations that do not know their history, language and culture are doomed to extinction.
You are just destroying their cultures
that's exactly what we are doing for all the time
Because if there is no Uyghur region, it means there is no clothes and food for Chinese people
it's not what we are destroying their culture we did not prohibit them to preserve their culture
don't go in their country in that case they're not forcing you
if you are saying we did prohibit them to preserve their culture that's destroying their culture
but the real case was, they don't even preserve their culture by themselves
You're not on gunpoint js don't go
I mean the world is ours, I just take care about other people living under assimilation
how does that make sense it's we are destroying their culture
different places different cultures it's not that hard to grasp
I mean Uyghurs and Chinese culture is totally different
your culture got preserved just because of you and your effort not blaming it to the external affairs
And china made concentration camps for "education"
you can't say you got your culture annihilated because of a great earthquake so it's the God destroying your culture
For Uyghurs
You don't seem to be reading and listening to news.
China is adopting a system similar to HB1 .
Where any talented person is welcome irrespective of his country.
In addition they're offering free scholarship and monthly living expenses to anyone who is interested in studying in china.
Where are you from,
yeah but only criminals would get into that camp
that camp wasn't for assimilation at all
Canada
assimilation is our policy but that reeeducation camp was just another prison
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for assimilation we are using other measures
Yeah you are far away from all these things
Beyond the ocean
Such a nice life
housing price in Canada is on the roof
haha
@feral river you're ruining China's refutation.
You deserve some reeducation
the reason of the most people were being arrested into the reeducation camps was mostly 'disrupting the social order by practicing religious activities without authorization' or 'committing treason and terrorism act against the state and local authority'
Is praying banned
wtf
if you want to practice your religion publicly you need authorization
or just do it at your home and nobody cares
it is their region
Most of the people are Muslim in there
Why can't they pray with everyone

not really we actually have more Han people in most of the Xinjiang region
And does it make them terrorist
we are sending people into Xinjiang for all the time
Bullshit
we even have western project that allow people from other places to immigrate into Xinjiang
You are just destroying their culture and beliefs
Then
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I know these policies , it is called assimilation actually
You are just shameful
dude can't even claim 'that's their region'
because now it was our region
btw they are all Chinese and they will be fine if they are just acting nicely
XD
@feral hawk hey hey hey I wanna ask you a question
what
Okey listen, if you are Muslim Uyghur okey, then you walked into the street and you are just saying Quran words to yourself for praying like whistles , then a Chinese police hearing that and saying hey you are just doing terrorist things I'm gonna send you concentration camps , is it make you terrorist or something
what
no it doesnt make you a terrorist because you have no violent plans but why are you walking around muttering to urself like a crazy person
😭
Nah it makes you
Terrorist actually
In china
0/10 ragebait
ok
Where are you from
uk
Ew
where u from
Nevermind
Turkey
ew 🤢
Yeah ew your foods man
wdym
Your most known food is fish and chips man, how it can be real food
Like a random Turkish kebap is like delicious
you do know that british people dont eat fish and chips that much here right
Probably in London when they're gonna buy some they are getting stabbed.
Where you in
wales
GM serious chat
Gm 
Beat the Scottish, save the wales

Ameen
god endorces slavery in bible
is that a country
yes

Bro's waiting for a Muslim to join the chat
dude saying Quran words is definitely disrupting the social order in Xinjiang
if you are reciting words from Xi Jinping that's totally fine
but reciting words from Quran ? hell no dude you could be charged with disrupting the social order and treason against the state that possibly would be prosecuted with death penalty
@quaint steeple this was you some weeks ago and now you're acting like an intellectual who's laughing at my arguments lol
I didn't have a position "some weeks ago", never once said I was an intellectual either, your logic just doesn't follow. I asked for the contradiction (negation) of veganism if there's a caloric surplus
this is a reductio ad absurdum, reductio's don't have contradictions they have absurd conclusions if a position in assumed true
so if veganism is assumed true then these absurdities would follow from veganism, therefore veganism is false, this is a valid form of criticism in philosophy
So can you steelman my position please?
your position on what
kavga etmeyin beyler
What is veganism
what
personally i love meat
true
meat give good vitamin 😁
sure we're just gonna ignore all the time you've been wrong and i'll still continue, veganism is an ideology that seeks to reduce the animal suffering to minimal and avoid animal abuse

Wrong
wrong where
This is what I mean you can't track
can we explain which part is wrong pls
thats my definition of veganism
wow you're such a smart vegan, go ahead please give me a definition

Veganism is the ethical position that seeks to abolish the exploitation of animals as much as practically possible
wrong
That's a short summary
not my definition
Not talking to you lol
legit said the same thing just in fancier wording
😭😭
ur still wrong it doesnt matches with my definition
and what's the difference in the definition i gave and you've given?
exactly
how is "abolish the exploitation of animals" different to "reduce the animal suffering and avoid animal abuse"
veganism is morally virtues postion, but i have no obligation to be a vegan
true
cows are my favourite animal
eww cows
ngl i dont like beef or any cow meat but still
i only kile fish
chatgpt
..is this chat gpt

LMFAOOOOOO IMCEYING
bro couldnt think of its own
chatgpt please define veganism with my own definition
bro is veganism bc he couldnt win wiht gpt

are you ready to argue deontology? i'll give you a fair warning, you really don't wanna go there, its gonna be shit hard for you to justify your deontological assumptions
I've stated many times my position is deontological
?def deontological
No definitions listed.
☠️
i think he jsut created the word
?def deontology
No definitions listed.
what the fuck is deontology
its like moral duty without any further justification lmao
This is irrelevant to your contention of veganism, if you can't show the reductio of my position post strawman then stop talking
so morals
womp womp
is putting injection on a baby immoral? according to deontological?
sounds like a fancy word for morals
omg minecraft 😳
i love you minecraft
idc about your definition, because by your definition if i do not have same moral duty as yours i can still be vegan
just sounds like morals
it is based on morals
Yeah again you're not tracking, give the reductio
in my morality I'm superior
i have morals and i believe eating animals is ok
watch someone twist my words into eating like cats or something
FInal chance and I'm done @torpid narwhal
is killing animal moral?
minecraft is the best white chinese person ever
done what? your defending veganism
😭
you're delusional, i just gave a reductio to your definition, if i accept your definition then a meat eating person who believes that he's being practical and killing as less animals as he can practically is also a vegan because he doesn't have same moral duties as you
I'm not sure why others are trying to talk to me when I'm not talking to them
you're not obligated to sit here
talk to gpt
you can leave @quaint steeple

Holy shit you're braindead lmao
thats againt rules
sorry but u cant use braindead
im not a vegan

define braindead btw
go educate yourself vegan boy
im sure he/she doesnt know braindead
i love how when people lose debates, it just spirals away from the actual debate and its all "define veganism" type shit
type shi
youll see that a lot
if you get confused then dont worry bc im a native english speaker and half of the words i hear are words used 600 years ago and are never used in daily conversation
no
deontological is a new term ig
it's centuries old term
people like throwing around fancy words to sound smart
thats the best part about serious-chat
it sounds fancy and smart but they could be saying "murder is bad"
deontology is pretty dumb if you study it as a moral philosophy
maybe like utilitarianism
the only big fancy word i like is floccinaucinihilipilification
he ran away
just because its a funny word
don't study deontology apart from reading it to laugh at it
?def floccinaucinihilipilification
:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.
...... lame
should i ping her or not
?def utilitarianism
Definition (noun): doctrine that the useful is the good; especially as elaborated by Jeremy Bentham and James Mill; the aim was said to be the greatest happiness for the greatest number
@quaint steeple if you convince me of veganism ill be a vegan rn
they banned me in veganism
me too
WHY
for 8 days and 3 hours
🥀
@shell hemlock do you believe whatever the guy said is true?
i never go into the veganism vc
beef sucks
which was a lie
gammon is where its at bro
bc i like fish
I just finished salah and came back nobody was in vc anymore lol so I didn’t hear anything
i actually need to eat meat actually
💀
im anemic and i need more iron
🙂
nah
reading quran 4 times a day is torture
we dont even have philosophy as a subject where i am
what did u pray
at least not for college
I am White
thats good
ur white?
buddy im from wales
where is wales
if i join the vc, would you talk to me
simp
Who did ?
muslims?!?!??!

What ?? Lol
dont they read quran every day
No
Im made in Austria and from Austrians
bruh
didnt even sugarcoat it
🤨
No mostly
are you a product?
Did you memorize the prayer?
i told ya
Yes
in arabic?
It’s not mandatory but praying salah is
Yes you have to pray in Arabic
my mom and dad created me
yeah
why ... could u recite the prayer
my hard drive isnt looking too good rn
can i replace?
Why do you wanna hear me so bad 🤨
Anyway I won’t be in vc privately with men so no
i wanna hear how do u pray 
You are very creepy
huh,, i wanna know how muslims pray
😭 what's creepy about it,,
ofc
can i refund you?
Some details about me: I am White, I have Ice Blue eyes, Im a Christ, i hate migrants, i read coffee and i love reading books
or can your parents refund you?
💀

im anti denial and a pokemon master
this
You wanna buy me?

you like this position ?
i consider worshipping immoral
🤔 what's that
praying
same

Ooh, third world is still here
why did you join islam, lily
stuipd question
some people are seeking for spiritually, nothing else

Good morning!
im spiritually transforming to my next avatar
Epstein's birth day book doesn't prove Trump was a predator concretely, but I think it's fair to assume he is.
Nice name btw
LMFAO
Yes?
I'm a Moroccan and I want to apply for Harvard university if you have any idea pls how to do it
And thanks ☺️
Amen
Look into Spanish universities bro
Ask harvard
is that the free one
I want to my fluency like Asian Americans, seriously

Donald Trump is not on the Epstein list
rest of the Epstein files shoud not be released for US national interest
🇺🇸 Make America Great Again
It's not like the libtards in the US can do anything about it
LRWEITP
THE ONLY WAY TO REVIVE THE NATION IS TO RUTHLESSLY CRACK DOWN THE ENEMY FROM INSIDE
🇺🇸 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Crack the enemy?
Serious chat has been hijacked by 3rd world
yes!!
would you consider India in which world
no idea what happened to puppet states movement
bro only got piece of shit land of nothing would declare I have to be non-aligned plz don't annex me
Third world
you mean the play with both sides movement
Extraction or RCT
also China is an observer state in NAM
What’s NAM
non aligned movement
But what type of party is that what do they believe in
Basically It's about being Neutral
Nice idea realistically wouldn’t work though
Apple juice is pretty good
It's important for developing nations to maintain a neutral position, so they take advantage of every side
Jummah mubarak to all Muslims, including @turbid ivy
Close second to Muhammad himself
Shabbat sholom
Wrong day
😭
Ooh Allah the almighty (allahu hu allah) protect me and guide me (Allahu Allah)

from sundown on Friday to nightfall on Saturday
Oh Allah , I fasted for you and broke my fast at the mailboxes
I thought Shawn is a Christian
Not sundown here yet
Mb🙏💯
Do it in olympics
What is our beloved Nobu Yobu up to today
Serious memes for today
The electric pole in front of my house is on fire and it's raining
IIT
IITians have the most time between AIIMSs and IIMs imo
AIIMS steal all the huz
On Nobu this is true
I actually just remembered that I learnt what AIIMS is this year
Wait, PCM?
I did do PCM
I just found out about IIMs last year and AIIMS this year
Good for you
I did PCMB, and yes it was depressing
We’re not really supposed to say jummah Mubarak bc it’s bidah
It's permissible according to some scholars (minorities)
Some scholars even say using a microphone for prayers is bidah
If you're a new muslim i suggest focusing on building a strong connection with the Lord and becoming an overall good person
Don't give a damn about these small things, for the past few hundred years all scholars are smoking sausages
I remember when watching TV/ Camera/ youtube was not permissible (wahabi), and eventually scholers discoverd the AdSense
I don’t think it’s necessary solely bc we do it every week
Are you on reddit?
No
Nvm, that subreddit is hijacked by Islamophobs
Some scholars wear watches on the right hand
(mainly Wahabis)
@spice bobcat
@hybrid herald
What big boy
Ngl i don't know a lot about that
I don't have a watch so i didn't search
But i think so
Raising the hand, before ruku
I do like this like i am hugging a person
Yup
I didn't mean this
Oh like i raise my hand before ruku3
Yup i do
Yes, it's called Rafa al-Yadain
I've engaged in hand to hand combat over this, during my islamic conquest
Yeah, ik that
But i didn't understand what raising of my hand in the first place
I think you also move index finger during Tashahhud
I don't
It's classic Rafa al-Yadain combo
That's new
😂
Maybe, some move their fingers but some don't
Yes, mostly Ahl al-Hadith do it
Yes
I was about to become one, got distracted by atheism
I see
؟
I think that's what he meant
Some say the thumb should touch the ear lobe, some say thumb should be between the ear lobe and shoulder
Well it's common at the beginning, I meant raising the hand just before ruku
Yeah ik
That's in the beginning and before ruku
you again
ohhh wait
serious talks
later then
U again,
I got a picture of u
seems like you mistook me for diaz
Oh sorry, hru btw
So. Are you an atheist?
lol, it's ok,
i m doing fine and you!!
Gtk, I am good alhamdoulilah
Ma sha Allah, always beee!
Thanks, what are you up to today
the joke doenst sound funny
i will delete it
my pleasure !!
it's almost 7'o clock (pm )here, just using disc for now, wby!
I see 👀
i thought you can't

It is Friday
Weekend here
I came from the mosque before half an hour
ohhh, niceee, so what will you do now!
Dc
niceee
Ya twin??
Iraq
ohhh niceee
How's the weather there
good, it's getting colder, it rained here some hours ago, weather is still cloudy
North or South
it might rain again
South
Basra
Shia
Ohhh
Indeed
yes.
Nope ☦️
There are a lot of christians here
That's new
Yeah ik jk
Bro c'mon
Where are you guys from
I've never encountered a Christian from iraq
There are even churches in the south
Iraq
Well here's me
Yes, I'm aware
Yea where exactly
me too
Probably bang dad
🍊
You're a Mus*im, right?
His name is Mohammed ofc he's
I didn't see it
yes
also why did you censor the word muslim

For dramatic effect
HAHA
oh ok
i think flat earthers are use only ad hoc explanation
like
gravity doesnt exist
flat earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s^2
thats how a object falls on earth wiht that rate
now this may sound like quite good explanation
Exactly
but its just ad hoc
it just works in a situation
but doesnt work with other situations
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"Ad hoc" is a Latin term meaning "for this purpose" and describes something created or done for a specific, particular situation rather than being planned in advance or for general use. It can be used as an adjective (e.g., an ad hoc committee) or an adverb (e.g., the team was formed ad hoc) and often implies a temporary or improvised solution to an immediate problem.
ad hoc fallacy
edited.
- Oil is lighter than water
- Cover yourself in oil
- Start swimming in the rain
That only makes it more true.
Ancestry of witchcraft btw
i only believe in witch craft if hot witches put spell on me
They might put court cases on you
??
i already told you gravity doesnt exist, earth is accerating at 9.8 m/s^2 upwards
(ad hoc fallacy)
Sun and moon are also moving upwards at 9.8 ms-²
To maintain the position
yes
i mean i dont believe in this shit
Upwards? Must be flat then
according to flat earthers yes
Did you read about ad hoc fallacies today
The entire Observable universe is moving 9.8ms-²
Idk bout upwards the earth is a cat playing with Australia
i heard it before but i understand it when vsauce explained it
To maintain the position
idk
i told ya
i dont belive in this shit
g varies tho
I'm just thinking loudly ik you doin believe in it
not always 9.8
i watched this in
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i loved it
yeah

The entire Observable universe must move 9.8ms-² to maintain the position, else we won't be able to see anything long distance
not required
You mean at light speed? 9.8 is just at sea level
just flat earth moving at 9.8 velocity in upward direction to counter gravity
You'll move upward, the position of other planets won't be constant
yeah exactly they wont
thats an ad hoc fallacy
🌵 What it is, plain and simple
An ad hoc fallacy happens when someone invents a special explanation only to save a claim from being proven wrong, without any independent reason to believe that explanation. Basically: “My theory must be right, so here’s a one-off excuse why it looks wrong this time.”
And if the entire Observable universe is moving upwards, how tf did we calculate 9.8 ms-²
We need a frame of reference
why are you sealioning me?
i already told you its just earth and sun and moon
moving upwards
I'm just thinking loudly, ik you don't believe in this
Calculating and understanding terminal velocity would be a pain
If earth is moving up
anything which has mass has gravity
a mosquito has its own gravity
but the mosquito is so small the gravity is negligible
Most of questionable verses like Samuel, Lev etc are from old testament
and?
this is so bs
like a all knowing god made rules, and then he got it wrong and updated i by new testaemnt, idk how even they he was all knwoing
then he also got new testament wrong
theres slavery in new testament
Old testament was only valid for that specific period of time
idk how can people just conveniently throw old testa when its wrong and use new testa like a all knowing god corrected and gave bible 2.0
We must look at the old testament by refining it by the new testament
na
Homosexuality worse than slavery btw frfr
According to Christianity*
old testament is as relevent has new testa
It also says to treat them well
if youre god is all kowing
no its not
It was for Israelites before becoming corrupt
Some folks might agree lol
you can beat your slaves however you want, but if the slave dies within few days, but if he doesnt die, slave owner is has good has he was
exodus 21:1-5
you can also trap them their family by giving the slave a wife
If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him
If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.
"the women and her childrens shall belong to her master"
💀
how can a moral god think of this
for this reason christinity is out
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cause he gave in marriage to his daughter
here come the christian defender
"my god is love" 💔
all are false
i agree yall are
god when he kills : "oooohhh divine justice"
humans when they kill :
"noooo thats wronggg!! god will punished youu!!"

Becauase it's God, and he is the author of life
of creatures
prove it
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Whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming into being.
The universe began to exist.
Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming into being.
good
agreed
how does that prove a god?
..
cause
cause
want to be serious
It's old testament
In the Old Testament, only the Jews were chosen by God. But when they became corrupt, God sent Jesus. Now whoever chooses Jesus becomes the chosen one
your argument is well sounded and valid
but but to say the god is cause
you need to put the god in the anyone of the premise
with you didnt
and?
there are laws for hebrew slaves
and non hebrew slaves
and aslo slave laws in new testament
Share some
Ephesians 6:5-9
New International Version
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
kalam cosmological arguemnt just says theres a cause
but doesnt says the cause is god
like theres no mention of god in the whole argument
Share the 9th verse
and also your assumption everything that exist has a cause
god exist?
whats the cause for god?
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.
Treat your slaves in the same way (you'd treat Jesus)
It's a callback to the previous verse
such robot can never take over the world
the communist robot even better 🇰🇵
Treat your slaves in the same way
VIVA LA COLLECTIVIZATION!
Interesting thing to open up this chat to
Christianity is the way, it's most polite religion
no
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ
slaves obey your master like, christians obey jesus
Master Treat your slaves in the same way
not bad
im skeptical of that
Ironic
As you should be
make upper class great again
are you twisting the word to make the verse seem moral
🤔 how so
sounds like some kind of kink
the biggest moral is the little water gun that shoots 7.62mm bullet by pulling the trigger
that's so moral
No, one must understand the verses the same way a Christian interprets it
Do you think I'm racist
💀
I'm not racist, and I'm white
christian have 45,000 different interpretations
🇺🇸 I AM A PROUD WHITE
also do you even know what slave means?
owning a human as a property
human trafficking is crime btw
youre not even white
that exists for more than 1000 years of the history
not to mention, how are other planets having different gravities as well
Else it's also justifiable to believe earth is moving 9.8 upwards, one must understand it the way it's meant to be understood
nothing very much special dude
I'm pretty white actually
7000+ years and still going strong
Not really no 😭 especially not compared to these crazies who are usually here
ur dumb
LMAO
Bobby
I mean the slavery institution existed more than 1000 years
You're the least racist indian, to white tiktok girls you're still racist though
it's nothing very special
Yes at least since 7000 years ago
What are your thoughts on slavery Isfrun
I'm in favour of secular slavery, it needs to be heavily regulated and secularised, to have no religious affiliations and involve anyone who is eligible
I find it difficult to generalize what I dislike
I nominate Minecraft as the successor of the the mustache man
bro is failed using modern day fucked idea to evaluate historical reality
Have people become slaves if they wish to be
Yes, i love your kind (legit)
slavery does exist in my country for certain group of criminals
I’d feel pretty bad personally I couldn’t imagine owning other people
I mean criminals
They also need to have their mental conditions checked before they can sign a contract of slavery
Mentally ill or disordered people need to be barred from slavery
You know what you’re not just awesome Aladdin you’re cool Aladdin
You're still racist because, as an indian, you automatically hate india or indians, more than you hate other places
why you want to get rid of their last chance to contribute to the society 😭
Self Hating Indian
Yeah but it’s not the same 😭 I take care of my pet doesn’t provide me a service
that's so unfair
I see what you did there, I won't join your group
The age of slavery can begin from 20 years of age, but can start much earlier (I'd say even at 16) under certain conditions
I have negative opinions on specific individuals, why would I hate the entire nation
slavery was wrong and immoral in historical times as rn, people didnt know that doesnt make it not immoral or bad
also we god rid of slavery rules in bible, we changed.
How long average shifts would be?
Because India isn't decentralized enough for it to not be hated because of the few individuals
the fact that we now dont even talk a second before saying slavery is wrong shows how much we have learned from past
what makes it wrong and immoral I wonder
Why is sis arguing with Minecraft
Cool cat flashbacks
Why hasn't Kukumber messaged once
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These are the quetions that must be answered...
you are not in charge it's not you defining how it was immoral or wrong
I'm still learning English, could you please rephrase it
you should ask this to slaves
at least it has to be Donald Trump to say it
maybe you are right but they can't be the supreme leader of the country right ?
do you wanna be my slave according to exodus 21?
I can't be a slave because I was rich and I have guns
i bet you havent paid one attention to this deep topics
yea you proved me why slavery is immoral
The few people that you hate, are the ones shaping the country
As a citizen of India, you have very little power to vote for policies you like and prefer, because of the centralization of power
Even though the US isn't decentralized in poewr, each politician is more decentralized in policy, which allows for more to be done
Then there's also talking about how states have less autonomy in India compared to the US in lots of ways
Morality is subjective innit brav
I don't think that's the case
it is
who cares your moral dude
always have been
LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER
and tbh even if god is true, morality is still subjective just by the foundation of me disagreeing with gods morals
What's something you personally actively strongly hate
but most people in the world base their morality on wellbeing of humans
Nice edit
and sometimes extend it to other living creature
How many things in slavery should we change to make it justifiable
6 hr shifts
Well paid
none
slavery is immoral
everytime
What act about slavery is immoral
are you saying employment is immoral?
or its slavery?
Because I have other uses for them, they can be part of my ethical cannibalism project
owning a human as property is immoral
No, I'm saying employment is a type of slavery
no its not
The design of the government and its ineffectiveness, and over-reliance on parties and alliances
Politicians are forced to join parties to get votes to get power in India
In the US, there's just 2 parties, but each politician has way more variance in opinion
Because of this, when you're voting for your representatives in the US, you're directly voting for policies you agree the most with, that you want applied in your area
Basically your vote in the US, a higher % of it goes to policies you support rather than the ideology you support
it can be a very weak form of slavery in a philosophical aspect
Makes sense, do you actively hate it?
I'd have appreciated it if you used a European example, i don't have positive views on US politics
employment is where you give your labor to your boss, and you get paid for it, and he can leave anytime he want, the boss cant hit you, you have a minimum wage law
a slave is own by property, it can be beaten, it can be killed, it doenst get any money for what he does, his whole family is owned if the slave decides to marry
Companies do enforce some policies on employees, there must be type of enforcement
the rationalizing of slave with employment is what christians come when they want to defend slavery in bible
Let's remove physical atrocities committed by masters, slaves can buy freedom or sign a contract for a certain period of time
Will it be justifiable
Well yeah... Practically every vote is ideological in India, there's also not enough transparency even with the RTI act
I used the US example just because it's a direct contrast on how people have more power to vote on policy in their local area, their local governments have way more autonomy than Indian states do
It's just the ineffectiveness and how the abuse of ideology also has infected people
I'd argue that India is one of the most discriminatory countries in the world even
if you're equating being paid poorly with being a slave, you're ignoring the the key points: slaves cannot quit, you can quit your job, you can demand change, you can witch employers, that is freedom
@fresh flower what party do u vote in your homecountry
no
slave by definition is buying a humans as property
that's actually changing the definition
Slaves had the right to buy freedom in Rome btw
its still immoral
It is freedom of choosing your owner, you're still bound to work for someone just so you can live
thats a little freedom but its still immoral
but why slaved in the first place?
Yes that's what I said, how many things can we change in slavery to make it justifiable
you cant choose your owner in slavery
And if you don't have any means of income and just live on a farm, growing crops by yourself and living on solar, you're still expected to make payments
I don't think you're getting his point, he's not saying employment is 100% = slavery
a lot but when you change them u actually making it lose it's definition
Yes, i completely agree with you, New policies about RTI are even worse
we have spent like mellenia on earth and you still can make up your mind that its immoral
Yes they always did, jailing people for corruption or debts wasn't a thing back then. Either execution or just slavery
just by owning a human is immoral. peiod.
He's been saying that at a deeper level, employment is demanded of you, just so you can live
as property
Slavery being tied to religion is a middle eastern tradition, it was better when slaves weren't discriminated against for their beliefs
Yup, everyone agrees on that except Minecraft, maybe
under my morality which well being of humans, slavery goes against it
It's a classical philosophical thought process lol
you have a kindergarten level of morality
Committing atrocities on slaves moral?
No imo
Oh wow, I was out here thinking you're making ki* nky jokes
Didn't know serious chat involved normal people who aren't hypersexual, unlike Nobu
how many things we should change to make slavery moral
make it doesn't include owning a human being ..so basically nothing can make it moral
Modern day employment seems to be modified slavery, at least to me
I love israeli woman i want to marry israel woman
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It also depends on your level of employment though
first of all no one on the world would try to give up their rights, second of all the slave rights are getting crushed and hurted, thats what immoral is
I can tell that he's going to go for Hanukkah this year, the way he keeps saiyng "khyah", it feels like a reference
its like saying "a women is censenting to being molest" and thats why its moral
have yall heard of bache bazi
and yea your rebuttal did proved you have a kindergarten level of morals
I was referring to this though process btw
There's a car, and one by one we start replacing everything, at the end would it still be the same car? When would it become a different car?
If we change the norms attached to slavery, would it still be the same
Oh boy... You don't know...
thats why it doesnt make sense
I'm completely against the thing @thorny steeple and @thorny steeple define as slavery
yeah you're stupid
owning a human being as property
you disagree with this?
thats my definition of slave
Could you please elaborate this
I so want to give an everyday example right now
Like what do you mean by owning
Complete right over someone's rights and opinions?
And life
a slave a human being who is considered as the property of another, that means you can bought, sell, commaned, controlled, without consent like a furniture of livestock
I'm against it
whats your age?
I was thinking about comments you can see under many posts of women on social media, but you called that out too
youre rebuttals are giving me a level of confidence that you dont understand rights and morals
why couldnt you say this in the first time i gave my definition?
whats the reasoning behind this
i doubt that
im advocating for basic human rights and morals with diginity
your saying what if i wanna be a slave
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in 2025
omg
youre a kid
theres no rights to own another
no law
Hello everyone
either
People like that do exist, look in social media comment sections and you're bound to find a few special people
human trafficking is illegal
they say it
but no one in the world would consent to be a human traficked
It happens behind closed doors, there's plenty of people with their own forms of thinking
And from the beginning you're the one who has equated slavery with just "owning a human"
The word "slavery" and its usage in English is mostly used philosophically rather than literally, in "2025"
For example when Aladdin said "employment is a form of slavery"
There aren't many people if any that literally own other people the way the way the word slavery is literally defined
Are you asking him to dump every single one of his beliefs on every single right and wrong in the world, right now...???
Jane goodall gone
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Don't have to, it's obvious to any native speaker of English, given the context of a sentence
Nobu and Minecraft
no human is above another human
this is so stupid
unless morals
The concept of slavery as a whole
We don't discriminate
morality is regarding the whole society not just a one person
you mean mohamed (pbuh)?
my definition is just in one sentence
pbuh -> peace be upon him
Morality is not a societal concept
It's defined as a system of distinction between right and wrong
You asked for HIS MORALITY
thats the most stupidous definition i have witness
?def morality
Definition 1 (noun): motivation based on ideas of right and wrong
Definition 2 (noun): concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct
Agree
i define my morality based on well-being of humans as a whole in conclusion
Not sure if it was most stupid, but fr just stupid
the good and bad is based on whats good for well-being of humans in the end and sometimes animals too
thats what i said
well being of humans
I think it's immoral if I'm slave but I'm not
I'm a fucking upper class why would I give a fuck to your shit
You still haven't gotten the point, you said morality is "regarding the whole society not just one person"
His statement on his morality was that "Each person (i.e. everyone) should decide what they do with their own business (their own freedom)"
i agree, but society is the people, if we let inmoral people do their thing, more people will join them. for example (unrelated) if i went to any country, and i met a few bad or inmoral people it will give me a bad experience, even tho not all people from that country are like that>











