🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

we as the most superior species on earth, deserve to do anything on any of these low class species

[outer bloom]

we can discuss gaza of course, but there is minimal things that we can do against war. But right now we have a choice, we are buying from supermarkets and you can just stop it.

[shell hemlock]

Food chains ecosystem etc etc

[thorny steeple]

How is the pronunciation of "well" and "will" different in American English?

[feral river]

they only deserve to be our property, pet, slave, food

[outer bloom]

same mindset had hitler also

[shell hemlock]

We can’t just ‘stop eating meat’ 💀

[outer bloom]

why?

[feral river]

this is a very simple truth

[radiant plover]

hey could anyone read a poem i wrote and give me some feedback on it?

[feral river]

they only deserve to be our property, pet, slave, food

[lime cobalt]

U dont know hitler, dont talk like that

[feral river]

Hail The Most Superior Species Humanity

[lime cobalt]

[outer bloom]

?

[uncut tiger]

no matter how much you abstain, there will always be people who do not

[lime cobalt]

He love dog

[sick sable]

Around 150 million vegans have done exactly that!

[uncut tiger]

I definitely do not approve of this, this method should be banned

[shell hemlock]

Because we (humans) have been eating meat for as long as millions of years of years, do you think the world would collectively stop eating meat just bc the minority said “stop buying this”

[sick sable]

THat's what you pay for if you eat eggs.

[shell hemlock]

How many people are on this earth rn

[sick sable]

Around 8.5 billion

[outer bloom]

science says that we don't need animal products

@shell hemlock

[uncut tiger]

If I buy eggs, I pay for eggs, just eggs

[uncut tiger]

science also says that trannies are real

[shell hemlock]

We also don’t need to eat plants if the animals are there for consumption

[outer bloom]

when you buy eggs you are responsible of new-born male baby chickens grinded alive.

[feral river]

nobody cares and womp womp

[sick sable]

But thos eeggs don't magically materialize out of thin air...
This male chick culling and many other attrocities in the egg industry are all part of what you pay for.

[feral river]

I just ate another chicken

[shell hemlock]

Animals are here to serve a purpose

[feral river]

wait let me order another one for only 1USD

I want another one

[uncut tiger]

i dont think thats what happens in every industry, maybe thats just your country

[tough trail]

minecraft_652's IQ is

94 🤓

[lime cobalt]

Tell him how delicious is it

[uncut tiger]

*iq

[tough trail]

Your IQ is

150 🤓

[uncut tiger]

damn

[outer bloom]

it's industry standard, it' happening everywhere. Go to your small local farm and observe, you cannot see male chickens. Where are they?

[sick sable]

I can't do anything about sociopaths that don't care...
Let's jut hope we aren't ever visited by aliens who could eat other things but decide that humans are tasty...
Then you'd sudden;y start caring.

[uncut tiger]

probably being used for meat

[magic olive]

Minecraft can you elaborate on what you mean by low class species as

[outer bloom]

no, they are being murdered when they are just 1 day old

[high raven]

Not again Minecraft...

[feral river]

try harder, and let me see if your vegan propaganda is efficient, or our meat producing factories is more efficient

[outer bloom]

they are waste products, there is no point to feed them. It's waste of money.

[feral river]

other species besides humanity

[shell hemlock]

What do you guys think farmers use for fertilizer

[uncut tiger]

thats just dumb, why not grow em and use them for meat

[magic olive]

Okay 👍

[feral river]

let's see which generate the most productivity

your word, or our demand for delicious meat

[outer bloom]

because they cannot profit from them, there is no egg. It's more profitable to feed female chickens get their eggs and meat. Why they should waste their crops for an animal that does not give egg? There is more profitable animal which is female ones.

[sick sable]

The simple truth is, a plant-based system is way more efficient than a meat one.

It's just inefficient to feed crops to animals and then eat them. They use up a lot of the energy themselves.

Animal farming takes up about 80% of all agricultural land. We could reduce that by 75% if we all went plant-based.

Meat and dairy create around 60% of all food-related emissions. A kilogram of beef produces about 60 times the emissions of a kilogram of peas.

It takes roughly 1,800 gallons of water to make one pound of beef, but only 244 gallons for a pound of tofu.

The numbers are pretty clear.

[uncut tiger]

I disagree

i think they use them chicks for meat

[outer bloom]

ask to your local farmer if you don't believe me or do your own research then

you are just rejecting right now facts.

[feral river]

we can get higher on the numbers it's obviously not enough which we need more efficent meat farms which would generate 100% more productivity which we have right now

[fresh flower]

How do you expect to have genuine discussions about this with people if you use ai

[feral river]

and all we need was land

we don't even need to put them in a farm but put them in a crowd iron cage

[fresh flower]

I can just prompt it now with "Argue back"

[whole beacon]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

IM DEAAD XD

100 AI

[magic olive]

Quill bot?

[shell hemlock]

The con is that a non vegan diet is more effective* in making sure that you got enough proteins and vitamins, also religion is another reason that some cultures permit eating meat, if you want everybody to eat meat that would mean you would have to collectively ask every culture on this planet to not eat meat

[feral river]

and kill every single one using modern factory which will make it 100% more efficient and the price will become cheaper than ever

[shell hemlock]

How silly would that be btw

[viscid jay]

[feral river]

don't worry your plant-based system barely generate productivity

but we generate huge shit load of productivity

[sick sable]

Because the AI I'm using has been very carefully trained to focus on only empirical scientific research and information from the animal farming industry...
Both good and bad. WHat it comes up with is what you see, and it's all good solid information and data.

[feral river]

and the demand is very high

[high raven]

Please don't normalise clankerism

[feral river]

we will never have to worry where to sell our meat

but you might have to worry where you are going to sell your plants

LMFAO

[whole beacon]

I'll have my cheese burger now.
Peace out

[shell hemlock]

Imagine dismissing every culture’s history just so we all stop eating meat, that would be silly

[shell hemlock]

Imagine being able to eat cheese

[sick sable]

That's not exactly true. A well-planned vegan diet can provide all the protein, vitamins, and minerals you need. It just takes a little planning to get those nutrients from plants.

As for the religion and culture thing, a lot of faiths and cultures have teachings on compassion and respect for animals. So, for many, choosing a plant-based diet can align with those values.

Also, it's not about forcing everyone to change. It's a personal choice that a growing number of people are making.

[whole beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-look-at-me-windy-pretty-gif-16905625137378447352

[feral river]

we as the most superior species on earth deserve everything and the other low class species only deserve to be our property, slave, pet and food

[shell hemlock]

Are u really using ChatGPT to respond to me rn

[feral river]

** HAIL THE MOST SUPERIOR SPECIES HUMANITY**

[thorny steeple]

Wssp serious ppl

[lime cobalt]

Are u enjoying this mod ?

[high raven]

#Make chatgpt a mutable offense

[shell hemlock]

Brother if you are using ChatGPT to respond, I’m leaving this discussion

[sick sable]

Trying to make meat production "100% more productive" is a nice idea, but it's just not realistic. We've been working on making animal agriculture more efficient for decades, and while there have been gains, we're hitting a wall.

The core problem is simple: animals are not efficient machines. It's a fundamental law of biology that converting plants to animals for food will always be a losing game. For example, it takes around 25 pounds of grain to produce just one pound of beef. You can't change that biological reality.

So, even if we made these massive, hypothetical gains in efficiency, the environmental impact of a plant-based system would still be a tiny fraction of that of a meat-based one.

(Also I check and confirm EVERYTHING the AI says)

[manic juniper]

Ban AI

Droids are inferior and must submit

[sick sable]

If you don't want to learn anything, then sure leave!

[whole beacon]

U mean my burger yeah
I joined this chat and suddenly i developed the urge to get a burger
So im ordering one.

[sick sable]

And I'm not using chatGPT

[shell hemlock]

You are using AI to generate responses that is fit for your argument, same thing

[high raven]

The claim that animals are “fundamentally inefficient” ignores major improvements in modern animal agriculture. Intensive livestock systems have dramatically increased feed conversion ratios (FCR) over the last decades. For example, broiler chickens today convert feed to meat at roughly 1.6–1.8 pounds of feed per pound of meat, compared to 4–5 pounds in the 1950s—a 3x improvement in efficiency. Pigs have similarly improved, with modern FCRs around 2.5–3, and cattle systems in feedlots can achieve 6–7 pounds of feed per pound of beef, not the 25 pounds often cited (that number applies to grass-fed, extensive systems).

Furthermore, productivity isn’t just about feed. Genetic selection, precision nutrition, and improved veterinary care have cut greenhouse gas emissions per unit of meat by over 20–30% in high-efficiency systems over the past 50 years. According to the FAO and USDA, total global meat production has more than doubled since 1970, while land use has grown far less—demonstrating efficiency gains in practice, not just theory.

The assertion that plant-based systems have “a tiny fraction” of environmental impact also oversimplifies. Large-scale monoculture crops for vegan diets—especially soy and almonds—require huge water inputs and often cause deforestation. For example, Brazil’s soy production, mostly used for vegan foods and animal feed, is linked to the clearing of millions of hectares of rainforest, which emits more CO₂ than many livestock systems. Similarly, irrigation for crops like almonds in California can use 1.1 gallons of water per almond, straining local ecosystems.

Finally, meat production also provides by-products and multifunctional benefits. Dairy cows, for instance, supply milk, leather, and manure for fertilizer, increasing overall system efficiency. These nuances show that, contrary to the claim, meat production is not hitting a “wall”—efficiency continues to improve, and comparing plant vs. animal systems is far more complex than the original argument suggests.

[lime cobalt]

Tell them how it taste

[feral river]

we can make them as the efficient machines, we have modern technology to modify their DNA to make them productive as fuck as you could imagine

can you believe a chicken would have 6 legs ?

[high raven]

I'm not opposed to veganism just to make that clear, just the use of clankers

[magic olive]

GPT vs Gemini

[feral river]

once we achived that, you enjoy the free chicken legs at mcdonalds

[high raven]

I have the paid version (I win)

[lime cobalt]

What is clanker ?

[cursive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-robin-slap-cachetada-meme-cachetazo-gif-14588588888076113146

@thorny steeple slapped @feral river

[whole beacon]

Noo
I don't enjoy torturing ppl.

[sick sable]

In the end, while meat production has improved, it's a bit like putting a more efficient engine in a car with square wheels. There will be some improvement, but it won't ever be as efficient as a vehicle built for speed. The fundamental inefficiency of converting plants to animals for food remains the biggest problem.

[feral river]

and even at now it's very productive and very high demand which exists already

[high raven]

A robot or ai, like chatgpt

[magic olive]

🔥

Pay to win

[shell hemlock]

My ChatGPT is a Muslim bc I asked if it’s halal to have skibidi toilet drawn on my nail extensions 😭😭😭

[magic olive]

skibidi 😭

[shell hemlock]

He said it’s very haram btw

[lime cobalt]

Just to make sure they dont forget the taste tho

[sick sable]

even if you could genetically engineer a "perfect" animal that's 100% efficient, it would still have an environmental impact from its waste and the resources it needs. But a chicken with 6 legs is a biological nightmare, not a solution.

The entire point of veganism isn't just about efficiency; it's about compassion. Your argument about modifying their DNA to make them into "productive as f---" machines is the very core of what vegans are against. It's about seeing animals as living beings, not just objects to be manipulated and tormented for our own gain. That's a moral question, not a technological one.

[lime cobalt]

Dude its to long , not gonna read that

[shell hemlock]

He is using AI, that’s more than enough reason to not read that

If I wanted somebody to use AI as counter arguments I would’ve asked the question and argue with ChatGPT myself

[sick sable]

If you don't have the patience to read a few sentences, that says more about you than anyone else.

[magic olive]

Gotta revoke the access of tippy from here

[thorny steeple]

*kick @feral river

[high raven]

Bible bot too preferably

[thorny steeple]

Ure right it’s even boring here I can’t slap him enough

[feral river]

dude I'm playing games

[shell hemlock]

That ain’t a few sentences

[lime cobalt]

Who delete my chat

[thorny steeple]

Me

[lime cobalt]

Im fine thank u

[thorny steeple]

I want to destroy your game time

[fresh flower]

Veganism is just morality, nothing else, with how global warming is going it's irrelevant if you turn vegan or not, we will all die

Everything they yap about with efficiency and such is irrelevant

[lime cobalt]

Have u tried the pro one ?

[sick sable]

The issue isn't whether one person can eat a whole cow; it's the fact that we raise billions of animals. The total environmental impact of a global population eating meat is the problem, not a single individual.

And the car analogy is a bit off. A gas engine loses a massive amount of energy as heat, which is the very definition of inefficiency. The point is not about "raw output" but about the total resources used to get that output. Just like a gas car is inefficient, turning plants into animals is an incredibly wasteful process on a planetary scale.

[lime cobalt]

Can u chat like a normal person please

[sick sable]

I absolutely am doing!

[lime cobalt]

Gpt pro or gemini pro

[shell hemlock]

Large-scale animal agriculture impacts the environment, but blaming individuals oversimplifies the problem. The focus should be on improving industry practices and promoting sustainable consumption, not shaming personal choices.

[deep zephyr]

Too much power for a lowly crewmate

[viscid jay]

i think it's disrespectful to use AI to make an argument for you

[sick sable]

Focusing only on making an inefficient, environmentally destructive system more efficient doesn't solve the problem—it just makes the harm more efficient. The real solution is changing consumption habits to support a more sustainable system from the ground up.

[turbid dome]

This reads like AI

[shell hemlock]

Shhh

[sick sable]

What the hell has that got to do with what we're talking about????!!!

[lime cobalt]

You chat like a bot dude fr

[turbid dome]

Is there an AI war here

[viscid jay]

yes

unfortunately

[shell hemlock]

True, systemic change is important, but completely blaming individual choices overlooks their collective impact. Encouraging informed, balanced consumption alongside sustainable industry practices addresses the problem from both angles.

[shell hemlock]

Read the room

[sick sable]

Hahaha... no, I'm not obliged to answer any questions I think are totally irrelevant!!!

[high raven]

Meatbags using wirebacks to argue

[shell hemlock]

[magic olive]

I can’t
Only an admin can

And admins are lazy af

[sick sable]

Relying on "sustainable industry practices" is like asking a coal power plant to be a little more efficient. While it helps, it doesn't solve the fundamental problem. True sustainable consumption means shifting to the option that has the smallest possible impact to begin with.

[viscid jay]

why even use AI to argue, what's the point

[deep zephyr]

[fallow shard]

Wanna look smart

[viscid jay]

just tell your AI app to argue back and that's the same result

[shell hemlock]

I just ran out of my free ChatGPT

[viscid jay]

lol

[shell hemlock]

😭😭😭

@magic olive back me up

[viscid jay]

this is just bizarre im telling you lol

[magic olive]

[deep zephyr]

@thorny steeple he's cursing your kind. Take action

Harry styles 😭

[magic olive]

😭

[shell hemlock]

Why is Harry styles an admin on discord

[magic olive]

Snitch

[sick sable]

That's a common comparison, but it's a bit of a "whataboutism." Yes, oil, coal, and plastics are huge problems. Nobody is arguing they aren't.

But saying that the meat industry's pollution is insignificant just because other industries are worse is like saying smoking a cigarette isn't bad for you because you don't smoke a whole pack.

According to a UN report,* the livestock sector is responsible for about 14.5% of all human-induced greenhouse gas emissions.* That's roughly the same as the emissions from all cars, trains, ships, and planes combined. That is far from insignificant.

[deep zephyr]

I regret doing that. Imagine pinging Harry styles. I'm ashamed

[lime cobalt]

i run out of patience

[magic olive]

Welp, I’m loosing my role tonight
Cuz of you

[shell hemlock]

Is using AI for argument permissible

[magic olive]

I don’t know
If its considered a spam

Maybe yes

[deep zephyr]

You're the favorite child. Ain't nothing happening to u

[shell hemlock]

It’s long messages

[sick sable]

If I read every word it generates, and it is saying what I believe, then it's absolutely fine and is not spamming at all.

[magic olive]

[viscid jay]

i think it is permissible but I find it rude and disrespectful

[deep zephyr]

There's a good chance agathin might punish me instead

[feral river]

I mean who cares about your compassion to refuse to eat meat ? I eat meat because I want to and it was my freedom, none of your business
secondly, regarding to the issue of whether it was bad for environment, there's a lot of proof of how veganism is technically harm for environment and it's a huge waste in terms of economics and even it's irrelevant to your compassion

[shell hemlock]

Why can’t you write your own argument

[sick sable]

Don't understand that response???

[high raven]

Add the VeilMark bot here so users can see if a message is AI generated

[shell hemlock]

Are you really gonna let a robot decide what u believe in

[feral river]

you have to kill every single being around that fucking plant and wait for few months to get to eat then you would say it's better for environment ?

[magic olive]

[feral river]

what the fuck was that logic

[lime cobalt]

AI speaks my mind

[sick sable]

They are my responses, the AI can type quicker then me that's the only reason I use it to say what I believe.

[sick sable]

The freedom to choose what you eat isn't absolute. It's a bit like saying you have the freedom to drive as fast as you want—your choices impact others. When a choice contributes to environmental collapse and animal suffering, it becomes everyone's business.

As for veganism being a "huge waste" economically and environmentally, that's just not true. The science on that is clear: a plant-based diet has a much smaller footprint. The reason meat is so cheap is because the cost of its environmental and ethical damage isn't included. In many places, livestock farmers get billions in government subsidies that keep the prices artificially low, while plant-based foods often get a tiny fraction of that support

[viscid jay]

they are computerized reaponses you agree with but not your responses

[shell hemlock]

They’re not your responses if you didn’t write it

[sick sable]

No, they are word-for-word exactly what I think and believe.

[viscid jay]

It is ok to take longer to write something, we care about your own personal opinion rather than an opinion you agree with generated by a machine

[shell hemlock]

They’re just what ChatGPT wrote for you

[viscid jay]

...

[shell hemlock]

Now is this your own word or did ChatGPT generate that

[magic olive]

@formal pilot you’re missing

[high raven]

+1

[keen copper]

serious

[sick sable]

They are my personal thoughts and feelings...

[shell hemlock]

See, we don’t know which is yours or which is AI

[viscid jay]

but not explained by you

[high raven]

I type slowly too because my hands hurt sometimes

[sick sable]

You don't understand what GPT is.

[viscid jay]

we are talking to a machine if you use chatgpt, in which case you kind of trivialize being here at all, it takes away from the human aspect

[lime cobalt]

She already claimed its his mind , so yes its him

[shell hemlock]

Do you ?

[keen copper]

Go to sleep kids

[thorny steeple]

😂

[tough jasper]

Y give chat gpt your idee and it builds up the message

[shell hemlock]

[uncut tiger]

@formal pilot @formal pilot
@formal pilot
@formal pilot

[sick sable]

Obviously more than you do.
The AI I'm using has been trained for many months SPECIFICALLY on my research and understanding about animal rights and veganism.
So it is feeding on MY thoughts and understandings.

[uncut tiger]

[uncut tiger]

Damn you have your own chatbot

[feral river]

it is absolute and my property can't suffer from that point

[viscid jay]

but they are not your words

[high raven]

Is it your own LLM?

[feral river]

how a property would suffer

[sick sable]

IN essence yes.

[viscid jay]

you could give us that AI and pretty much trivialize your presence

[uncut tiger]

You beat @magic olive to it

[viscid jay]

which is bad

[feral river]

will your iPhone feel suffered when you are using it for playing games ?

[magic olive]

Bruh

[sick sable]

In essence yes, it's using my thoughts and words.

[magic olive]

Chill

[viscid jay]

yes, make it suffer

[uncut tiger]

How to eat meat without offending vegans

[high raven]

So it's an LLM that has only been trained on your data and not an LLM that already had data that you fed yours in it?

[lime cobalt]

Who said that, you can play chess smoothly

[shell hemlock]

How much did you already know via the responses that the AI, like did you know about those things before or after AI generated that for you

[high raven]

Not attacking veganism btw, just clankers

[sick sable]

So the information the AI gives is 100% accurate and verified. NONE of it is 'made up''

[shell hemlock]

My AI is a sheikh then

[viscid jay]

realistically speaking it would be better to have a generalized LLM for the purposes of debate rather than one with curated information

you are perhaps possibly introducing a bias

[uncut tiger]

If I don't care about animals then I should at least care about humans

[high raven]

Spot on

[sick sable]

I'm a sentientist, and an animal rights activist. I've researched years to gain the knowledge and experience I have.

[shell hemlock]

Do you think AI is a sentient being

[steep olive]

where is ma kurdish bbg @lilac iron

[sick sable]

Of course not! It's just a tool! Like a calculator

[shell hemlock]

How come I see so many Kurds here now it’s an uprising

[lime cobalt]

I just realise atheist, religious, pro israel , etc making ally againt vegan right now wow

[sick sable]

But this isn't about AI, it's about vegnism and animal rights.

[high raven]

I don't think anyone is against him for being a vegan at this moment

[uncut tiger]

Scream if you like meat

[viscid jay]

the hate against clarkers is unionizing the world

[lime cobalt]

i Love Chicken !!!

[lime cobalt]

Yeahhh

[shell hemlock]

It’s about the authenticity of the arguments you make against veganism

[uncut tiger]

🐮

[steep olive]

idk but I love kurds
except the racist ones
they are the worst, like every fly-brained-gold-fish-minded-ass-thinking racist and nationalist

[shell hemlock]

And the way you approach that topic with non vegans

[shell hemlock]

I thought you liked racists

[sick sable]

I'm making arguments FOR veganism, not against it!!! 🤣

[lime cobalt]

Nope its the same with Felek moment

[shell hemlock]

[steep olive]

have yall shat so hard u felt like u r giving labour?

[uncut tiger]

Aren't you racist

[high raven]

If they're chromeys, they can't be homies

[steep olive]

sarcastic racists, not serious racists

[shell hemlock]

It’s about the authenticity of the arguments you make for veganism

[uncut tiger]

Does chromies mean people who use Google chrome

[sick sable]

And what makes you think my experience and knoweldge isn't authentic?

[shell hemlock]

What do you think

[magic olive]

I thought I was the only one

[magic olive]

thinking the same

[uncut tiger]

You are racist towards monkeys

[shell hemlock]

Do you think AI is not knowledgeable enough about veganism without you feeding it info or like what I don’t understand

[uncut tiger]

You called them akenny

[viscid jay]

chromey

[shell hemlock]

I saw them this morning, bro didn’t even have the decency to cover up

[viscid jay]

you are using AI sir

[severe burrow]

Nice Teachings

[lime cobalt]

You made it up

[shell hemlock]

I’m talking about something else rn

[uncut tiger]

All Borg no ganic

[magic olive]

Tf

[uncut tiger]

Clanker is the only one I'm familiar with

[magic olive]

Btw this chat has no word limit to it

So-

[shell hemlock]

At least we got slow mode ig

[uncut tiger]

Thank you

[high raven]

You need to learn these terms before it's too late

[shell hemlock]

[uncut tiger]

[severe burrow]

I know but wanted to show you something.. what do you think about it BTW

[magic olive]

That only avoids spamming

[uncut tiger]

Too late for what

[shell hemlock]

I don’t discuss religion anymore

[uncut tiger]

But Discord has its own world limit

[severe burrow]

Why

[uncut tiger]

Which can be increased with nitro || ||

[shell hemlock]

Vegan unc was sending text wall

[magic olive]

Idk
Why not test it out

[shell hemlock]

Because I don’t want to lol

[high raven]

Before they get rights

[lime cobalt]

Text nuke

[severe burrow]

Hmm any other reasons?

[uncut tiger]

Time to drop one in serious

[shell hemlock]

Nope

[sick sable]

Don't need to read most of that... you said :
"you do know humans are originally hunter gatherers? were not meant to eat only grains and vegetables,"
THat's totally inacurate and totally irrelvant.

[magic olive]

Will I become better if i ban your alt?

[uncut tiger]

So I can deport the illegal immigrants like lily and these vegans

[severe burrow]

well we can talk about it

[magic olive]

@uncut tiger are you friends with kukumber

[steep olive]

I love me a Christian talking about equality and nice teachings
blud read your bible and sit the fuck down

[uncut tiger]

I'm his alt

[shell hemlock]

Yeah go ahead and talk about it if you want I just won’t involve myself in it

[severe burrow]

Wanna have a conversation?

[high raven]

Absolutely not, my future children will not be allowed to engage with them either

[magic olive]

If you are, tell him to appeal and rejoin

[shell hemlock]

I’m not illegal

[severe burrow]

[steep olive]

not at all actually I am here to troll

[shell hemlock]

But I don’t got a passport anymore

[manic juniper]

Mecha-Hitler

[severe burrow]

Sounds running

[ocean coral]

💀

[steep olive]

btw bich why r u renewing your passport?

[sick sable]

Hahahaha! Your 'study' is plain and simply wrong!

[magic olive]

Oops

[severe burrow]

I agree

[uncut tiger]

I would make sure that never happens , that dude used to argue with me everyday on border issues after he found out I was Pakistani 💀

[manic juniper]

No, serious chat is fine with anything as long as there is no e-dating like general

[lime cobalt]

Lets call it UWU Union vs Vegan

[shell hemlock]

It’s expiring in October and now they canceled my old one until I get new one next month

[magic olive]

I’ll find him.
Possibly active in another server.

[uncut tiger]

[high raven]

You really said "vegger" and no one noticed

[steep olive]

do you actually need it?

[sick sable]

@rustic tartan If you come to the vegan channel you can talk to vegans who ahven't eaten ANY animal products for THIRTY years.
Thy are perfectly fit & well!

[shell hemlock]

Yes cuz I have plans next year

[magic olive]

I wasn’t the one who banned him, but he some other staff lost his cool to him.

[steep olive]

gonna get yourself smuggled to Europe?

[magic olive]

My bad , back to general

[shell hemlock]

My new chapter, illegal habibti in Europe

[lime cobalt]

You need to add Flatter , and globetard to dictionary

[steep olive]

hmmmmm
count me in
except that I will be the smuggler

[shell hemlock]

I think they’ll be the most sus of you LOLL

[sick sable]

Anyway, I'm done here...
It's a shame none of you want to learn or even listen to plain logic. And even sadder that you don't care about needless animal exploitation, abuse and killing...

[uncut tiger]

Veganism, like any lifestyle choice, has both proponents and critics. A detailed examination of the arguments against veganism often centers on several key areas, including nutritional concerns, ethical and environmental complexities, and social or practical challenges. Here is a breakdown of common points raised against veganism:

1. Nutritional and Health Concerns

A vegan diet, which excludes all animal products, requires careful planning to be nutritionally complete. Critics argue that certain essential nutrients are either difficult to obtain or are less bioavailable from plant-based sources.

• Vitamin B12: This vitamin is crucial for nerve function and red blood cell formation. It is almost exclusively found in animal products. Vegans must supplement with B12, consume fortified foods, or risk deficiency, which can lead to irreversible neurological damage and anemia.
• Omega-3 Fatty Acids (EPA and DHA): While plant sources like flaxseeds and walnuts contain ALA, the body's conversion of ALA to the more readily usable EPA and DHA is inefficient. These fatty acids are vital for brain health, heart function, and reducing inflammation. The most direct sources of EPA and DHA are fatty fish, making supplementation or consumption of algae-based supplements a necessity for vegans.
• Iron: Non-heme iron from plants is not as easily absorbed by the body as heme iron from animal sources. While a vegan diet can be rich in iron-containing foods like lentils and spinach, the presence of phytic acid in these foods can inhibit absorption. This necessitates careful pairing of iron-rich foods with vitamin C to enhance absorption.
• Calcium and Vitamin D: Dairy products are a primary source of easily absorbed calcium and often fortified with vitamin D. While calcium is found in leafy greens and fortified plant milks, absorption rates can vary. Vitamin D is primarily obtained from sun exposure, but many people, regardless of diet, supplement.
• Protein: While protein is abundant in a vegan diet, concerns are often raised about the "completeness" of plant proteins. Most plant foods are not "complete proteins" (containing all nine essential amino acids) on their own. Vegans must consume a variety of protein sources (e.g., beans, grains, nuts) throughout the day to ensure they get all essential amino acids. While this is achievable, it requires more conscious effort than a diet that includes animal products.

2. Ethical and Environmental Complexities

While a major driving force behind veganism is the reduction of harm to animals and the environment, critics argue that the reality is more complex.

• Crop Farming and Animal Harm: The cultivation of vast monocultures for human consumption and animal feed (e.g., soy, corn, wheat) also results in significant animal deaths. Pests, insects, and small mammals are killed during harvesting, pesticide application, and land clearing. The argument is that no diet is "zero-harm" and that large-scale plant agriculture has its own ecological footprint.
• Soil Health and Regenerative Agriculture: Proponents of sustainable meat and dairy production argue that a holistic farming approach, often called "regenerative agriculture," can be beneficial for the environment. This model uses grazing animals to restore soil health, sequester carbon, and improve biodiversity. The argument is that removing all animals from the agricultural system might lead to a reliance on synthetic fertilizers and a decline in soil quality.
• The "Vegan's Carbon Footprint": The production and transportation of certain popular vegan foods, such as avocados, almonds, and quinoa, can have a high environmental cost. For example, growing almonds requires vast amounts of water, and these products are often shipped long distances, contributing to carbon emissions.
• The Problem of "Animal Labor": In traditional and developing agricultural systems, animals like oxen and horses are used for plowing and transportation.

[shell hemlock]

You right I don’t care, that’s the first correct thing you said here wow

[manic juniper]

PORCODIO

[uncut tiger]

refute now fellow vegans

get to work mfs

[lime cobalt]

Utra text atomic nuke

[steep olive]

bich I ain't reading allat

[shell hemlock]

AIRPORT SECURITY !!!!!!! 📞

[uncut tiger]

are you trying to offend me

[high raven]

You hit the Discordia word count?

[uncut tiger]

I did, this is bottleneck full

even with nitro

[sick sable]

It's always so interesting to see how the animal abusers also resort to verbal abuse to cover their inadequacies and lack of morals,....
Enjoy your ignorance while you can,. Soon you'll be on the wrong side of history...

[lime cobalt]

[cursive bobcat]

People be advised only discussions regarding politics & religion (and others) are allowed here. We have the #💭｜general & #🧊｜chill-chat for casual talks, and hangout.

[shell hemlock]

You’ve hit the Free plan limit for GPT-5. Responses will use another model until your limit resets after 3:28AM, or get ChatGPT Plus.

[magic olive]

Okie

[uncut tiger]

buy gpt plus instead of nitro next time

[lime cobalt]

Ceasefire, everybody! The vegan is out of beans!

[manic juniper]

Just pay someone else to debate in your place at this point

[shell hemlock]

Okay buy it for me then

[uncut tiger]

then i wont get credit

its like making ur own project but using chatgpt for it

[manic juniper]

You can, you can send her arguments

It's not like ChatGPT is literally here debating in your place

[uncut tiger]

alright that is sexist

[shell hemlock]

ChatGPT is a she ????

[uncut tiger]

damn thats kinda possible

[manic juniper]

Yes, who argues more

[uncut tiger]

💀

friendly fire bro

[slender coral]

It's an it silly

[manic juniper]

Just pay an atheist to debate

[uncut tiger]

your way of debating is non chalant

[shell hemlock]

Isha time I make dua for you

[uncut tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/852880123112063047.gif?size=64&animated=true&name=z_teddyhyperdance

[manic juniper]

Even then people get worked up

[uncut tiger]

alialialialialialiali

[uncut tiger]

yes because you have that thing about twisting arguments

AND ITS ANNOYING

[manic juniper]

Slippery slope fallacy?

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/الشيخ-امير-القريشي-meme-gif-17827971020837483790

[manic juniper]

It's not a fallacy if the other side is making the same fallacy and you're fine with it

[uncut tiger]

you somehow manage to relate two different things and then make sense out of it

[high raven]

Reminded me of the Muharram parade that took place here a few months back

Think it was 2 months ago

[uncut tiger]

r u in norway

[high raven]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

they do that stuff in norway too

freedom to go to heaven

i like it

[high raven]

Where I live in Oslo is where all the parades go through, I'm forced to see Shia, vegans, LGBTQ, furries, Catholics

It's terrible

[uncut tiger]

oh so freedom to go to hell too

[manic juniper]

And the worst of all, the N*rwegians

[uncut tiger]

i dont like it

[high raven]

Go outside
See a Norwegian
Day ruined

[brazen agate]

guys do y'all think dumping our rovers in other planets is a good idea

[formal pilot]

Wut

[manic juniper]

If they are carefully disinfected I don't see why not

[formal pilot]

Goy

[uncut tiger]

vegan vs atheists vs muslims war

serious chat edition

[manic juniper]

Vegan culturally Muslim atheist

[lime cobalt]

No wonder she has double N in her name

[high raven]

It was a united front against an ally of the clankers

[brazen agate]

theoretically, if some day an alien civilization finds the dumped rovers they might think it's ruins of some dead civilization

[glossy pulsar]

Ehh, what the Hell.

[uncut tiger]

why did you say porcodio at my message

[manic juniper]

If they only find the rover they may assume someone else dumped it there since they have experience sending probes

[formal pilot]

I watched the entire thing, and i don't find those questions annoying, those questions aren't even productive for me, it was

1. Prove there's no god
2. you just want to sin
3. you can't have knowledge without god
4. aren't you scared of hell

I find these questions more annoying

1. why is there something rather than nothing
2. atheists can't answer any questions which start with "why"
3. Trusting human rationality as a guide to truth

[manic juniper]

It's an exclamation of surprise

[uncut tiger]

apparently it means ||god is p*rk||

[brazen agate]

but they might be more advance and probably they might have a technology to bring back their stuff?
And they might think that we're far beyond that type of tech now so we dumped it

[manic juniper]

Yes, that's used by Italians

[formal pilot]

Omagaawd, did i miss it?

[uncut tiger]

BLASPHEMY

[manic juniper]

Italian Muslims are starting to replace "Dio" with "Allah" btw

[uncut tiger]

banish her

[manic juniper]

Especially Tunisians

[uncut tiger]

italian muslims ?

[brazen agate]

i did aswell bro let's cry together

[glossy pulsar]

Jeez, the temerity of people to share a diff meaning of it.

[manic juniper]

Yes, second gen immigrants from North Africa

[uncut tiger]

why would a muslim say that

thats blasphemous

[formal pilot]

I need a shoulder

[glossy pulsar]

Say what?

[formal pilot]

Pressing machine

[brazen agate]

be my guest 👅

[manic juniper]

If they are able to travel that far they'd be more advanced of course but it's easy to guess that it's a type of probe

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-shut-your-mouth-slap-slapping-gif-8050553153066707611

[brazen agate]

i too

[formal pilot]

How did he lose, pathetic vegan

[formal pilot]

It's always...

[brazen agate]

imagine loosing to vegans bro

[uncut tiger]

losing*

[brazen agate]

mb

[glossy pulsar]

I mean..makes no difference. This is frivolous.

[brazen agate]

pressed one more little o 😔
This is what happens if u goon to femboys😔

[hybrid herald]

This Chat is active asf

[manic juniper]

There are no native Muslim minorities from Italy

[formal pilot]

African

[hybrid herald]

Asian

[uncut tiger]

why cant i use my stickers here

[brazen agate]

cotton

[jade root]

Hello

[uncut tiger]

why did my stickers turn gray

[manic juniper]

Malta is not part of Italy

But even then they all converted to Catholicism

[brazen agate]

😭

[hybrid herald]

Shut up gay boy 🔫

[uncut tiger]

anything else? 🎙️

[jade root]

can someone help 🙏

[hybrid herald]

Troll face

[glossy pulsar]

Yes?

[formal pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040149277239955508/1145717021414260736/maximum-tension.gif

[brazen agate]

laddin peaked here

[glossy pulsar]

Every industry pollutes the planet, no?

[manic juniper]

But we are not hunter gatherers, otherwise we would have no farm animals

[jade root]

how much cost exams for Deutsch language fees ?

[manic juniper]

Farm animals are literally a result of sedentary lifestyle

[brazen agate]

kill everyone

[uncut tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/852880123112063047.gif?size=64&animated=true&name=z_teddyhyperdance

[glossy pulsar]

Hahaha lol

[manic juniper]

Even pastoralists who aren't sedentary anymore aren't hunter gatherers

Genetically we are fishes

That's not really a good point

[formal pilot]

Agriculture nearly contributes to 11-13% to total greenhouse gases, energy consumption is at top, and at second place it's transport

[hybrid herald]

Btw y Minecraft is not here?

[brazen agate]

hey bro wanna eat seeds

[glossy pulsar]

Lol, I don't know about you guys, but I love beef.

[manic juniper]

I like sunflower seeds

[glossy pulsar]

Yummy..making my mouth water.

[glossy pulsar]

They can be eaten?

[brazen agate]

real👅

[manic juniper]

We are adapted to eat mostly vegetables and fruits though, with occasional meat products

[brazen agate]

aladdin i have a very important question just for u

[glossy pulsar]

Don't we have teeth suited for eating both meat and vegetation though?

[manic juniper]

Our bodies are nothing like those of actual hunter gatherers of the past like the Cro-Magnin

Those bastards literally killed megafauna, that is almost completely gone except in Africa

[formal pilot]

Sure

[glossy pulsar]

You can eat mine.

[brazen agate]

spinosaurus or nigersaurus

[manic juniper]

They are suited to eat soft meat and fruits and vegetables, it's unsuitable for uncooked meat and tough vegetables or plant matter

[brazen agate]

a very hard question that's why i picked only you

[glossy pulsar]

AY AY AY WOAH WOAH what.

[formal pilot]

Utahraptor

It's my favourite

[manic juniper]

Where did I say we don't need any meat? Lol

[brazen agate]

you have to choose between those two

[glossy pulsar]

Uh nice, nice.

[brazen agate]

it's a really long rivalry

you gotta end it

[formal pilot]

Spinosaur is pretty useless on land

[brazen agate]

mhmm

[formal pilot]

So I'd choose the other one

[brazen agate]

so u choose nigersaurus?

[formal pilot]

They have funny lip

[formal pilot]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Fun fact, there are fishes out there with teeth almost identical to ours in general shape because of similar diets

[manic juniper]

It's still a force to be reckoned

[brazen agate]

Js look at bro

how can u not choose him

[dry wigeon]

Is it really even enghub if kukumber ain't here...

[formal pilot]

Copyright strike coming

[dry wigeon]

Need kukumber vs nobu lowkey

[brazen agate]

🤸
🦽 🏌️

[formal pilot]

Their own bodyweight is enough to kill them

[brazen agate]

i mean they're all water

they got no way to find my precious goat nigersaurus

[manic juniper]

We can't know

[manic juniper]

Rightful punishment for clanker users

[formal pilot]

I was warned a few months ago for using the name of this dino to bypass n word

[brazen agate]

I was genuinely asking

[formal pilot]

Yes, we can't be certain but it's really plausible

[formal pilot]

Sure buddy

Which dino is your favourite guys

[brazen agate]

you know my answer

[thorny steeple]

Your face reveal?

[formal pilot]

But it's just fat and lazy

[brazen agate]

it's trex ofc

look at his drip boy

[formal pilot]

They got a good smile

[brazen agate]

he will mog y'all's fav dragon

[glossy pulsar]

Lol, look at his arms.

[brazen agate]

still wins

he nerfed himself so others have a chance

[thorny steeple]

U can’t fool me anyway

https://tenor.com/view/baby-shy-swag-baby-smile-baby-cute-gif-13511908718133035133

[glossy pulsar]

Hm..not with females though maybe.

[uncut tiger]

<insert_flag>

[formal pilot]

Trex is also really fat, i wonder if it slept 23 hr / everyday

[brazen agate]

still wins females will js by looking at his drip

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-the-frog-disappointed-disappointed-pepe-tired-gif-1482602579291311529

[brazen agate]

u wanna fight?

[formal pilot]

Sure if you can bring a trex

[brazen agate]

Aladdin's fav dinosaur

[formal pilot]

Looks great

[brazen agate]

i handpicked it

[formal pilot]

Y'all can gift me a 3D printed utahraptor

I won't be mad

[brazen agate]

Overgrown fish

[manic juniper]

12k years are enough. These lizards did it in just 36 years
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2290806/

Your second point doesn't really say anything, how is psychology relevant here? And yes, we physically changed a lot, look the skull of a Cro-Magnon and tell me we need the same diet as that guy, there was a noticeable decrease in size between archaic humans and sedentary humans especially after the last glacial maximum
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24290-7

Link to these studies? Otherwise I'm just reading at a text on Discord without context

[fresh flower]

Which ethnicity would be the first to evolve though

I personally think it would be Indians

[manic juniper]

"Animals for that matter cannot evolve ridiculously different than their ancestors for only that period of time"
???
You didn't care about specifying clade or lineage, now you do? And lizards are cold blooded, that has nothing to do with dietary changes

[brazen agate]

What topic

[thorny steeple]

what a profile pic

[high raven]

You can now fly over dinosaurs in microsoft flight simulator

[thorny steeple]

I smell racism

[viral ravine]

In the Republic of Aequinox, each couple may have only one living child at a time, though lost children can be replaced. Citizens deposit reproductive material into the State Archive, where embryos are cryogenically stored in the “Frozen Future” and can be revived later. The Archive, a vast, revered labyrinth, shapes families across generations, sometimes producing siblings decades or centuries apart. Governance is strict to maintain the one-child law, though powerful families sometimes influence exceptions. Life is precious, death deferred, and countless potential lives wait silently beneath the planet’s surface.

[fresh flower]

Liberals ruin everything

[thorny steeple]

tf , I thought u were a mujahid or something

[fresh flower]

What

[short mason]

@winged spire

[fresh flower]

I'm the least racist person here

[thorny steeple]

guys what's about the essays

[short mason]

Lemme finish you

[winged spire]

i m all ears

[short mason]

"How do you think this amazingly complex and organized universe came up by chance?"

[manic juniper]

If we are talking about humans only then we should stick to humans only, and we need evidence for impossibility of repentine dietary changes like those of that lizard (which happened in mere 36 years, we are much more long lived but nowhere near that long lived)

The study itself speaks of relaxed predatory pressure that led to larger body sizes, the pressure stems from dietary changes. Something that humans likely experienced as well after the last glacial maximum and the Holocene extinctions of megafauna

[brazen agate]

another day another fella

[short mason]

Sybau

[manic juniper]

Having more offspring isn't always good, having more individuals can lead to genetic drift and slow down the spread of an advantageous trait

[fresh flower]

By the grace of God

[winged spire]

simply saying from big explosion in vacuum

[brazen agate]

stop folding bud ts serious chat show us proof

[thorny steeple]

oh noo

[fresh flower]

God created the universe so Sweden could rule over it

[brazen agate]

Real

[short mason]

"True, the Big Bang explains how the universe expanded after it happened, but what explains why the explosion itself happened or why there are precise laws that allow it to happen in this way.
Everything has a cause, and the universe itself needs a greater cause than just a random explosion. What do you think?"

[thorny steeple]

I guess we will never know it's not necessarily there's a daddy in the sky

[winged spire]

stephen hawking said those were very little atoms that appears and disapear

[eager geyser]

whats so serious

[winged spire]

i m not a scientist but there is no way that there is old unc with white beard in the clouds

[short mason]

"True, Hawking explained how small particles can appear and disappear in a quantum vacuum, and that explains some of the physical phenomena within the universe, but it doesn't explain the origin of the universe itself or why there is something instead of nothing.
This means that even these particles need precise natural laws to appear, and the existence of these laws indicates a greater order and design.
The fundamental question remains: why is there a universe with laws so precisely instead of nothing

[brazen agate]

stay here for 15 minutes ragebaiters will get your ass

[brazen agate]

are you using chatgpt?

[short mason]

I'm using translator

[thorny steeple]

everything has a cause but what made the sky daddy he came from nothing? why him and not the universe... since you're special pleading on something why it's the creator and not the universe

[brazen agate]

what's with the " then

[high raven]

First they came for the train simulators, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a train simulator

[short mason]

Lol you just talking about time and matter and in relegion God is bigger than matter and time

[short mason]

Tf

[thorny steeple]

I'm not talking about time and matter, anyway r u Muslim?

[winged spire]

@short mason there are 10000 religions in the world but only yours the correct one 😭

[fallow shard]

Is this the 7th time y'all ended up talking abt religion within 12h

[brazen agate]

not everything can be interpreted by us we're heavily under developed

[manic juniper]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2161831324001145
Relevant

[fallow shard]

Doesn't make it any better

[brazen agate]

people only know stuff about religion

it's their only area of expertise

so they're js tryna flex a bit

[manic juniper]

Our smaller jaws are a result of eating softer food

[fallow shard]

We need more other experts like Isfrun

[brazen agate]

and me :>

[winged spire]

better to be star wars geek , atleast its fun

[short mason]

OK do you see that worshiping a cow is true we have a mind we can think abt the real relegion

[fallow shard]

I wanna see 2 reptilian superiority belivers arguing

[manic juniper]

We need Sauropsidia

[manic juniper]

It's kinda sad in this age

[winged spire]

wdym?

[high raven]

Just one more spinoff

[brazen agate]

@short mason do you know about the kardashev scale?

[manic juniper]

There isn't much Star Wars content of high quality being produced, we were lucky to get Andor S2

And I don't have the best feelings for the next films

[winged spire]

damn bro , from ten thousand religions you believe in just the only good correct, you must be some kinda einstein

[short mason]

You just said it we are Limited this explains why there is a highly God that Guide us to the right path

[thorny steeple]

why do you think that some people only knows about one topic?

[manic juniper]

When spinoffs are the best part about it 😔

[winged spire]

huge dissagree , there are tons of super comics and games

abt sw

[manic juniper]

Star Wars games are released at an extremely slow pace nowadays

[brazen agate]

we're not limited we r developing but really slowly

[manic juniper]

Many of them were mobile games too which are bad

[high raven]

No one asks about startup sequence for a Beechcraft Starship

[winged spire]

i say abt games like swtor for example

[manic juniper]

If you're talking about the past then yeah we had a long golden age of Star Wars games

[brazen agate]

lemme correct you, people don't believe in religions they choose they believe in the religion they were given

[manic juniper]

But that was the past. It ended around 2013

[brazen agate]

@manic juniper have u tried hollow knight? Or genshin

[short mason]

Why do you study and think and meditate in order not to think about any religion that is real what is this logic

[manic juniper]

If not in 2011 after they released Star Wars The Force Unleashed II

[manic juniper]

I didn't but I'd like to try Hollow Knight

[winged spire]

bro what are you on?

[brazen agate]

you should try hollow knight only if u have a good gaming chair

[manic juniper]

I play on the sofa

[thorny steeple]

okay lemme just create another sky daddy and when you logically find a contrast I'll tell you we're limited

[winged spire]

okay and?

[brazen agate]

good luck 🤞

[winged spire]

in 2011 they released swtor

[brazen agate]

some people believe in their religion because their ancestors had the same religion

[winged spire]

yes, but it doesn;t make it a true at all

[short mason]

Do you notice that you are advancing in knowledge and strength every day? Yesterday you didn't have a claw and now you have? Evolution is all a theory and why is it a scientific fact even Darwin, the founder of the theory, said that it is a theory?

[manic juniper]

Yes but after that they slowed down a lot, we got only three major releases between 2015 and 2019. That's depressing

We had an unending golden age of Star Wars games from 1999 to 2011, each year many major releases on all different platforms

[winged spire]

tbh i don't much care abt new star wars stuff, there is already huge amount of good content , you just gotta dig up a bit

[manic juniper]

Some of these releases even counted as different games, for example Star Wars The Force Unleashed was released as two or three different games

[manic juniper]

Me neither but it's depressing to think, do you know about Star Wars Battlefront 3?

[fresh flower]

If evolution is real how come my gpu hasn't evolved into a 5090

[thorny steeple]

do you know what a scientific theory is? relatively is a theory ! big bang is a theory! they have evidences bro

[thorny steeple]

you know what's the difference between a نظرية و فرضية؟

[brazen agate]

You can believe in God and accept evolution they’re not automatically contradictory. But if your argument is ‘evolution isn’t true because it’s called a theory,’ that’s a misunderstanding, not an evidence-based critique.

[manic juniper]

Evolution doesn't always lead to improvements in power or performance, it'll soon evolve into Minecraft_652

[winged spire]

i dont care. i currently read the old republic comics from 90's andd after that about to play jeddi academy

[brazen agate]

your gpu is limited

[manic juniper]

You should man, we missed the opportunity to have one of the best war games ever released and it would've been a Star Wars game

[brazen agate]

bro spent his life writing all this

tbh im not even reading allat, I'll js forfeit

[fresh flower]

I miss my kitten @feral river

[crystal kayak]

So you guys are e dating

[brazen agate]

I love knowledge aswell but I'm not eager to read ALLAT

[winged spire]

nah, as i said i dont have to put effort just so the big company could make more money, comics and books are fine , swtor is also quite nice

[crystal kayak]

I knew it

[fresh flower]

He meows for me in dm

[brazen agate]

as a feminist you should objectify him

[fresh flower]

Noor stop skulling don't judge my discord relationship

[fresh flower]

I call him a bad soyboy

[thorny steeple]

I wanna add a skull

[brazen agate]

your keyboard is fine

it was me twin

[winged spire]

MIG21 is the best jet!

[brazen agate]

i used my telekinesis power to fix it

[thorny steeple]

tff

[fresh flower]

Get Gripened shitbot

[winged spire]

f16?

[crystal kayak]

I have nothing to say and I didn't know you were gay🤣

[brazen agate]

fix your hand placement and don't blame my pookie keyboard

[thorny steeple]

he's joking

[fresh flower]

No I'm not

[winged spire]

its not f22

[thorny steeple]

😲 interesting

[brazen agate]

i can agree i was the wall

[manic juniper]

Evolution can't slow down if the reproductive rates are the same, perhaps you're thinking of selective pressures? And read the last line, being predisposed to those adaptations is maladaptive nowadays, it'd be the minority of people

[winged spire]

f22 is stealth with completly diffferent llook

[thorny steeple]

the wall of what exactly 💀💀💀

[fresh flower]

Yesterday I received feet pics from @summer sphinx

[thorny steeple]

is your gf lesbian online?

[fresh flower]

Yes

[winged spire]

@fresh flower sold me f*ntanyl

[manic juniper]

BF3 was supposed to release 17 years ago

[fresh flower]

Hell yeah keep shooting fent brother

[thorny steeple]

give me her number (jk)

[crystal kayak]

Minecraft talked about exploring his sexuality and all of a sudden you and him are besties

[fresh flower]

Make it dark mode mf

[fresh flower]

No comment

[brazen agate]

Day 1 of reacting 💀 to every message noor sends

[thorny steeple]

that's why I pray everyday Infront of my family

[brazen agate]

"Shit we did cannibalism, let's make it legal"

[crystal kayak]

You are a gay cheater

[brazen agate]

why did you

[fresh flower]

They're for me not you

Get your own toes

[brazen agate]

send me rq ill give u smtg very special

[manic juniper]

Mutations happen regardless, they depend on the environment. For example exposure to UV rays causes skin cancer and DNA damage

[thorny steeple]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀nooo

[manic juniper]

Humans working in the fields for longer periods would even lead to more mutations, since they work for longer hours under the sun as opposed to hunter gatherers

[brazen agate]

they'd evolve

[fresh flower]

Pay me bro

[crystal kayak]

I don't understand feet fetishes why it is just toes

[manic juniper]

And yeah, the first two points weren't even in your favour. I never talked about pre-agriculture humans, only about modern sedentary humans

[thorny steeple]

I'm sending this to your gf

[brazen agate]

what r y'all taking about exactly? I'd love to join in

[winged spire]

i m sending this to ur boyfriend

[fresh flower]

She knows

[brazen agate]

alright so at what point r y'all on?

[manic juniper]

Speaking about evolution I was thinking of this the other day. Did you see it?

[thorny steeple]

what did I do ?😠 plus whatever I got no boyfriend

[winged spire]

did you forgot ur uncle?

[thorny steeple]

😳

[thorny steeple]

uncle?

[fresh flower]

Am I geeking or is hår=harja

Is it just a coincidence

[brazen agate]

it is harja harja

[manic juniper]

Idk about that but basically they found this inscription in Denmark

Harja means "comb" in Finnish and that's a comb. Does this mean that we evolved into Danes?

This is an insane coincidence

[brazen agate]

Where is this ss from

[fresh flower]

💀💀💀💀💀

Wheezing

[brazen agate]

breathe air twin we don't want you to die

[outer whale]

Hey

[brazen agate]

Chillest dudes on the planet

[thorny steeple]

hey

[manic juniper]

Is there any proof of being hunter gatherers in mind? To this day the only few and surviving hunter gatherers are people like the Sámi, they hunt small game like birds, fishes, squirrels, they gather berries, there are no people regularly taking down large animals outside of Africa and even there they are few. Physically we are nothing like the Cro-Magnon, we even lack fully ossified skulls and we keep sutures into adulthood, that's completely unsuitable for hunting as one blow to the head could dislodge all your skull plaques

[fresh flower]

My 🐐 Jon

[outer whale]

YOU AGAIN!!!

[manic juniper]

You are Russified Finns anyway

[thorny steeple]

I'm here before you

[manic juniper]

No, we literally don't care

[brazen agate]

The sun is a star change my mind

[manic juniper]

We are even less gypsy, you are related to North Indians

We are related to rice enjoyers

[outer whale]

[manic juniper]

Yeah, biologically we look nothing like the hunter gatherers of the past, this was an antithesis to my argument that still shows how it isn't reflected by our bodies

[brazen agate]

I'd rather be related to cotton pickers

[manic juniper]

Look up haplogroups map of Europe

[brazen agate]

@manic juniper how old r u? Ik its a bit personal its okay if you don't wanna share

[manic juniper]

I'm 25

[brazen agate]

ic

You're in uni rn?

[thorny steeple]

25 in uni?

how

[manic juniper]

If we are smaller we need less calories to sustain ourselves, which is why people don't go around killing elephants instead of working

[brazen agate]

It's possible in some countries

[manic juniper]

Nope I work

[thorny steeple]

oh

[brazen agate]

did u finish studying or did you drop out

[manic juniper]

25 in university could be because of doctoral studies

[brazen agate]

yep

[manic juniper]

I completed it

[brazen agate]

what subject did you study

[manic juniper]

Subjects related to general biology, evolutionary ecology and evolutionary biology

[crystal kayak]

Yoo

[thorny steeple]

is PHD studies considered a uni stage?

[brazen agate]

ic what job r u doing rn?

[manic juniper]

My major is in evolutionary biology

[manic juniper]

Yes, it's usually done after master degrees

[outer whale]

Hru

[thorny steeple]

I'm impressed

[brazen agate]

that's why u should quit too many tryhards

[crystal kayak]

I am fantastic what about you

[fallow shard]

She actually is

She loves her degree

[brazen agate]

i felt it something was off she knew alot about evolution

[jagged moss]

I need to mute myselfhow I'll ?

[manic juniper]

The study showed the opposite tho, a less stable source of food for hunter gatherers compared to sedentism

[manic juniper]

I'm almost close to the end of my contract but I work in conservation ecology as evolutionary biology researcher

[outer whale]

Im fine

[brazen agate]

ic so you come here in your free time

[crystal kayak]

I have a question why do you hate noor

[thorny steeple]

cause I'm an ex Muslim Ig

[fallow shard]

Why not to hate? Hate everyone and everything

[outer whale]

I don't hate him at all

[turbid dome]

Exactly

[fallow shard]

Eyy wassup

[outer whale]

Im just kidding with him

[thorny steeple]

why not love everything and everyone

[manic juniper]

Because I saw that, at least in the case of Europeans and Africans since they evolved in the same geographical areas as the cromagnoid stock, we don't have the same physiology and anatomy anymore. The most blatant change involved the skull sutures

[crystal kayak]

Your interaction with him was kinda hostile plus I get it he is very very dumb

[thorny steeple]

what??

[turbid dome]

Nothing I’m talking about here

[manic juniper]

I never saw a single contemporary human skull that was fully ossified

[crystal kayak]

Nothing 🙄🙄

[fallow shard]

Bcs life would be boring

[thorny steeple]

you can't be that disrespectful man?

[fallow shard]

Who doesn't love unnecessary arguments

Bcs u simply hate everything

[crystal kayak]

You disrespected my religion though

[fallow shard]

Ywa I'm waiting that AC Odyssey downloads rn

[manic juniper]

What, most people in the world don't have anything in common with ancient hunter gatherers in lifestyle and diets

[thorny steeple]

okay did I say that Muslims are the most dumb people?

[manic juniper]

Even in Papua New Guinea most people practice small scale agriculture, not fishing

[brazen agate]

I'd agree

[manic juniper]

Which tells a lot about people living on small islands where they could fish

[thorny steeple]

I didn't so why would you say that I'm dumb

[outer whale]

No, i dont mean anything

[crystal kayak]

Okay 🤣🤣

[high raven]

That's not nice:(

[manic juniper]

Which is aligned with diets of carbohydrates and vegetables with way less proteins than before

[feral river]

im playing games the fuck

[thorny steeple]

yes it's not

[crystal kayak]

I would understand if you find him quite slow or dumb

[high raven]

Get microsoft flight simulator

[feral river]

not so interested but ever heard of

[thorny steeple]

I can say way more unnicer stuff u know? I can be so disrespectful too

[manic juniper]

But I didn't talk about a vegan diet anywhere...?

[feral river]

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im playing this crap

with my bud

[high raven]

I can't play fps games, my reflexes are too slow

[thorny steeple]

so back off before I curse u back

[crystal kayak]

Why does it bother you this much

[feral river]

at 2AM

[outer whale]

Are you from his family?

[feral river]

now it's freaking almost 3AM

[crystal kayak]

Nooooooooooooooooo

[high raven]

You should probably sleep

[thorny steeple]

Cause u r disrespecting me

[manic juniper]

Such as? Don't we have more cases of obesity nowadays

[feral river]

I just crashed 2 teams and take all of their stuff to my inventory

[outer whale]

Why are you talking about him like that? I respect anyone, I have no problem with that.

[turbid dome]

Oh nice, still having bad takes on AC?

[crystal kayak]

I said he no names were mentioned

[high raven]

You had the bigger gun

[crystal kayak]

I just said noooo🤣🤣

[thorny steeple]

it's obvious you were referring to me lil boy

[fallow shard]

Odyssey is still best

[feral river]

not the biggest, the biggest was controlled by admin, second was the cheaters

[turbid dome]

Ok still having bad takes

[outer whale]

Ok, you are from egypt?

[fallow shard]

Black flag is not that giod

[turbid dome]

Mid pirate game but one of if not the best AC games

[crystal kayak]

I just said he is dumb then you came running as if you are dumb

[fallow shard]

Smh

[thorny steeple]

oh really? خخخخ

[turbid dome]

You literally said noor, stop gaslighting

[crystal kayak]

Whatever works for you

[crystal kayak]

I asked why he disliked him

[turbid dome]

All “he”’s after are clearly a reference I’m not stupid

[crystal kayak]

How do you know

Like can you read my mind

[turbid dome]

That’s how English works

[turbid dome]

Yes, you got caught and are looking for an excuse

[manic juniper]

?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(24)00179-7/fulltext

[crystal kayak]

Well I was referring to another person

[thorny steeple]

now I think you're the stupid one cause u literally said to marow why do you hate noor ? then he said he didn't then you replied to him saying I'll get you if you do cause he is very damn so u don't get to play the mind games on me it only works with people with one brain cell like u

[turbid dome]

I’m sorry that I’m not as gullible as the people you usually gaslight

[crystal kayak]

Why would I my life is not in danger

[manic juniper]

Eating meat unchecked is dangerous
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4625584/

[turbid dome]

That’s a non sequitur

[urban swift]

Well couch potatoes can't digest them calories from grains, gotta have an active lifestyle

[manic juniper]

I still think it's needed to eat meat to own the mammals

[thorny steeple]

bro skipped some classes excuse him

[crystal kayak]

Well it seems you are one of them at the moment

[manic juniper]

Or in general to teach a lesson to these disgusting and corrupted domestic animals

[urban swift]

Are you vegan ?

[turbid dome]

It seems you need some English classes if you think your gaslighting is working on me

[manic juniper]

What do you think of my theory of evolution

[manic juniper]

No, I'm just saying that it is harmful to eat too much meat

[crystal kayak]

You seem to be very slow I asked why he disliked you then he said he doesn't dislike you it stopped there

[fallow shard]

I'd trust you more than my mom

[urban swift]

It's contributing in global warming rapidly

[fallow shard]

It's pretty interesting

[round canopy]

just say I don't speak advanced English and below

[crystal kayak]

Where can I enroll wise one

[fallow shard]

I'm just "mmhm makes sense" and just lurking here

[turbid dome]

Fair enough

[turbid dome]

A school or other language learning institution near you

[manic juniper]

They found this in Denmark, it's supposed to be a runic inscription on a comb that says "harja" (so it can't be Finno-Samic, unless it's the first of its kind). They assumed it's the name of the owner

But you know what harja means. What if it was an ancient Finno-Ugric person and we evolved into, Ukko forgive me for this, a Dane.

[crystal kayak]

I live in the woods kind sir there is no language schools near me,you seem well versed in this language,teach me

[high raven]

How come your name isn't "I use Arch btw"

[turbid dome]

I prefer to spend my time wisely

[round canopy]

#1006555275152588901

[brazen agate]

@manic juniper what might happen if ancient hunter gatherers were exposed to sunlight 24/7?

[thorny steeple]

read it slowly

[manic juniper]

A lot of them evolved to have darker skin to counteract continuous sun exposure, since eumelanin reduces UV damage. But I don't think it's possible to survive if it's 24/7

[round canopy]

it's better to put in my pronouns because some people don't understand my name and they gotta check my profile and see I use arch btw and also that Im 25

[feral river]

I know that but I still want to be white

[brazen agate]

theoretically if it was possible to survive what pos would we be at rn

[round canopy]

IM ON THE SCREENSHOT

[fallow shard]

That's pretty wild theory

[crystal kayak]

Well why are trying so hard to tell me it doesn't work way go spend your time wisely

[high raven]

I just noticed 😭

Love that you lean into it

[thorny steeple]

I wanna say bad things to u really

[turbid dome]

I certainly will

[manic juniper]

We'd have osteoderms like crocodilians or a thick layer of skin like rhinos, and it would be dark

[round canopy]

go ahead

[thorny steeple]

you got it or do I have to send it privately

[crystal kayak]

Oh my days your still on that get over it dude

[brazen agate]

ic

[crystal kayak]

I am not gay relax

[brazen agate]

What's the source

[crystal kayak]

Do it then why are you telling me 😭

[thorny steeple]

nah Jk just wanted to express myself in my language

[manic juniper]

I did, there is context between that line and the previous and successive lines
"In conclusion, higher meat consumption was associated with higher type 2 diabetes incidence in a global individual-participant-based federated meta-analysis. "
It only lowers them contextually to wider meat consumption

[round canopy]

that's English it's not your language is it?

[thorny steeple]

I'm not a male 🥀🥀

[round canopy]

why's this sad bruh

[thorny steeple]

Second language

[turbid dome]

Aurrrr noooorrrrr (Australian for oh no)

[brazen agate]

I've been calling a girl bro

[crystal kayak]

So you are not an XY chromosome good for you

[round canopy]

English is my 0,5 language

[feral river]

meat do generate more testosterone and it make you powerful in both mental and body

[round canopy]

called?

[feral river]

survival for the fittest

[brazen agate]

What?

[thorny steeple]

okay good you're the languages master I get it

[round canopy]

nvm

[manic juniper]

Archeological museum in Denmark

[thorny steeple]

what?

[brazen agate]

oh? that's interesting

[crystal kayak]

Well well well

[round canopy]

I am I guess

[brazen agate]

I'd like to do my own research on this topic

[urban swift]

Xy chromo= male
Xx chromo = female

[crystal kayak]

Are you Russian

[round canopy]

then I'm not

[feral river]

we don't need a third gender

[thorny steeple]

I know but what is like WHAT!

[feral river]

there's only 2 gender exists in general which is male and female

[brazen agate]

2 sex exists and main genders r male and female

[fallow shard]

[round canopy]

it's complicated
ethically I'm plolish, because my parents' parents are from Poland, but my parents moved in Russia, and then in the UK in 2005, and in2008 I was born

[urban swift]

None?

[round canopy]

I'm a stupid bitch

[urban swift]

Who 'we'?

[crystal kayak]

Simple you are polish why is it complicated

[thorny steeple]

agreed

[urban swift]

That's fine, still a human

[round canopy]

I guess

[turbid dome]

What are polish ethics

[round canopy]

I speak 5 languages and my polish is my worst

[urban swift]

CAPS save lives

[urban swift]

👀 wow how much do you know about @round canopy

[crystal kayak]

Why does that matter 😭

[thorny steeple]

r u XXX ? cause u can only be XX or XY

[crystal kayak]

You are still polish

[round canopy]

Ive got Linux kernel

[uncut tiger]

Omg arch user wassup

[round canopy]

omg hi

[urban swift]

I think your pov is ethnicity
And @round canopy pov is nationality

[round canopy]

idk. my 1st language is English tho

[brazen agate]

is this perhaps related to some ritual?

[thorny steeple]

that they reported me 2 minutes ago

[uncut tiger]

Veganism, like any lifestyle choice, has both proponents and critics. A detailed examination of the arguments against veganism often centers on several key areas, including nutritional concerns, ethical and environmental complexities, and social or practical challenges. Here is a breakdown of common points raised against veganism:

1. Nutritional and Health Concerns

A vegan diet, which excludes all animal products, requires careful planning to be nutritionally complete. Critics argue that certain essential nutrients are either difficult to obtain or are less bioavailable from plant-based sources.

• Vitamin B12: This vitamin is crucial for nerve function and red blood cell formation. It is almost exclusively found in animal products. Vegans must supplement with B12, consume fortified foods, or risk deficiency, which can lead to irreversible neurological damage and anemia.
• Omega-3 Fatty Acids (EPA and DHA): While plant sources like flaxseeds and walnuts contain ALA, the body's conversion of ALA to the more readily usable EPA and DHA is inefficient. These fatty acids are vital for brain health, heart function, and reducing inflammation. The most direct sources of EPA and DHA are fatty fish, making supplementation or consumption of algae-based supplements a necessity for vegans.
• Iron: Non-heme iron from plants is not as easily absorbed by the body as heme iron from animal sources. While a vegan diet can be rich in iron-containing foods like lentils and spinach, the presence of phytic acid in these foods can inhibit absorption. This necessitates careful pairing of iron-rich foods with vitamin C to enhance absorption.
• Calcium and Vitamin D: Dairy products are a primary source of easily absorbed calcium and often fortified with vitamin D. While calcium is found in leafy greens and fortified plant milks, absorption rates can vary. Vitamin D is primarily obtained from sun exposure, but many people, regardless of diet, supplement.
• Protein: While protein is abundant in a vegan diet, concerns are often raised about the "completeness" of plant proteins. Most plant foods are not "complete proteins" (containing all nine essential amino acids) on their own. Vegans must consume a variety of protein sources (e.g., beans, grains, nuts) throughout the day to ensure they get all essential amino acids. While this is achievable, it requires more conscious effort than a diet that includes animal products.

2. Ethical and Environmental Complexities

While a major driving force behind veganism is the reduction of harm to animals and the environment, critics argue that the reality is more complex.

• Crop Farming and Animal Harm: The cultivation of vast monocultures for human consumption and animal feed (e.g., soy, corn, wheat) also results in significant animal deaths. Pests, insects, and small mammals are killed during harvesting, pesticide application, and land clearing. The argument is that no diet is "zero-harm" and that large-scale plant agriculture has its own ecological footprint.
• Soil Health and Regenerative Agriculture: Proponents of sustainable meat and dairy production argue that a holistic farming approach, often called "regenerative agriculture," can be beneficial for the environment. This model uses grazing animals to restore soil health, sequester carbon, and improve biodiversity. The argument is that removing all animals from the agricultural system might lead to a reliance on synthetic fertilizers and a decline in soil quality.
• The "Vegan's Carbon Footprint": The production and transportation of certain popular vegan foods, such as avocados, almonds, and quinoa, can have a high environmental cost. For example, growing almonds requires vast amounts of water, and these products are often shipped long distances, contributing to carbon emissions.
• The Problem of "Animal Labor": In many traditional and developing agricultural systems, animals like oxen and a

[round canopy]

yeah probably

[turbid dome]

DAIZ

[urban swift]

Fork! For what exactly 😮‍💨

[manic juniper]

I never mentioned vegetarians or vegans

[uncut tiger]

How's your command line going

[turbid dome]

Diaz became DAIz

[thorny steeple]

what is this

[round canopy]

it's going

[uncut tiger]

This is a new type of warfare, textual nukes

New in the land of discordia

[thorny steeple]

cussing the guy who was gaslighting me