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Basically yea
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john
Minecraft
The griddless undefined
Where's 652?
There's always a high probability that he'd be muted
You never know
Yeppers he's a wild card
Bella ciao ciao ciao š¶š¶š¶, how's your day going
Hello
Thank you,I am gonna go wash my eyeballs now
Close enough, welcome back Kurt Cobain
So you are attracted to both men and women
Reasonable šš hope you recover soon from all the stupidly you had to deal with
Isn't that called bisexual
Difference between pansexual and bisexual is that bisexuals are attracted to more than 1 gender. Pansexuals doesn't care about genders
Gay is men who like men lesbians are women who like women and bisexuals like both
everything's alright jonhnny boy. hbu
I hope so tooš¤£š¤£
What about pansexual
Women and men
Likes am I missing something
Would it be correct to say that demisexuality is closer to pansexuality than what bi is?
I might be conflating it with something else
It's going well but do you ever think that the Soviet Union still was with us?
Demisexuals are only attracted to people who they've close bond. It's strong emotional bond
I'm not feeling like arguing so alr
I think they like women men and non binary people too which is like people with no gender
No I am really confused like bi like women and men so does pansexual so what is the difference
Those non binary people are still men and women though
who's soviet union? i dont know her
I donāt know a lot about them all I know is that they identify as none of them
It comes to gender bcs there are more than man and female. So pansexuals don't care abt gender, bisexuals would prefer different genders like female and non-binary
Anyways so when are you ever traveling to Antarctica?
It doesn't make sense but okay
I see thank you for explaining
You're welcome
Have you ever went camping
Never thereās a lot of bears in the forest by me so I never wanted to risk it, have you?
Lions and hyenas in the area so no but I would like too someday and people find it weird here like why would you go and stay in the woods when you have a home a house to sleep in š¤£š¤£
I have list of things I need to experience ("dad lore") before I have kid š¤£š¤£š¤£
Yeah depends on the area indeed
I would love to try it
Luckily Finland doesn't have any dangerous areas when it comes to wild life
I can go camping to anywhere basically
Hello hello
Amen to Finlandia, so how long you been camping?
I go maybe twice a year and I've been doing it for few years now
Didn't need any camping this year bcs army was enough
That's great, so an experience camper, so have you taken any hikes?
Blud has done army camping 101
Longest was 45km in 3 days
Not including the army 30km in one day
Ngl I die trying to get to 45km lmao
The 30km was worse in one day
Even tho 30km was in flat area
You even tried
But difference was the full gear and the physical stuff we needed to do
Luckily I got the easiest
Some of them needed to do 60km in 24h but some did 120km in that time
Lmao well it takes endurance ngl
Yeah imagine being fully loaded with equipment and your destination is 120km! Not even 12km!
Yea, it wasn't that bad even tho I passed out
It was my stupidity to not eat enough
I missed one food bcs I absolutely hated the food
Mate has passed out before indeed it's just part of the training it seems
Maybe for the people who hike they camp out itās fun if youāre safe about it, on the hyena thing theyāre definitely crazy one chased my mom for 3 hours straight
Yea it's madness
Full gear without the backpack weight is alot on its own
Then Tchaikovsky's song and his cannons can be heard from the background
Yea I'll get freed from reserve tho
So I don't need to think abt military anymore
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It sucked but it had also fun moments
Amen š
Definitely only will be called if Russia decides round two lol
Then I'm ofd the country or depends
I can't be put to fight bcs my heart
Blud's finnish but doesn't want to die for great Finland lol
Oho heart condition?
Yea that's why I can't fight if I even wanted
Yeah that sucks
I've incoming heart test this year and if anything that scares me
The procedure sounds scary
Fair enough
I accidentally went to check the name again
And ended up reading the whole procedure
Thatās fun
Thatās weird
Yippii
Good luck and donāt die
I will probably out of panic
In that case name me in your will
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I want everything
What if u don't get anything
Iāll be very sad
Don't be greedy
Please Duckard duckarino ducko duckoid?
yummy cat
Isnāt that your full name
No
Why not
Bcs it's not my name?
Youāre right I forgot your first name is unknown duck
Knew it
What is ur opinion about Sweden
Modern day it would seem cool if they werenāt known for innovations in racism. They also had some failures during the pandemic I think. Previously seems like it was a very fucked up colonial country.
Innovations in racism LMFAOOO
Itās true
Tbf nowdays it's kinda fucked up
Yeah I wouldnāt be surprised if the pandemic supercharged it.
Politically everyone seems to hate governents decisions about what to do w immigration
They spend so much on their military and then blame immigrants for their quality of life declining
Theyāre still fairly right wing on immigration lmao
They still needs some support from Finland and Norway
Bcs criminal rate is pretty high in some cities
But it seems to be in decline
Wdym
We sent some police there in the past
Joining NATO fucked over both Finland and Sweden imo
Lmao
Thatās awesome, they canāt police domestically without outside help yet rapidly are increasing their military spending
Sweden is totally under threat lol
Finland has only had benefits or at least we've not had any bigger problems
Fuck this fucking language
Well when Trump demands you pay even more for your defense and your government argues in favor of cutting social services itāll feel like otherwise
Not like our government would do it for fun either way
So when it comes to Nato it's only our current governments fault that what is happening
Fair enough, Europe is fucking itself over to rapidly increase military spending all over russia, which canāt even get more than an attrition victory
NATO has so little to do w our current fucked up politics
For now, in the long term though
Not great
Our military has been very suitable for NATO standard long before we even joined it
So it doesn't have that dramatic effects
True
Wait till Trump says 15% defense spending š
Only really outdated equipment we have compared to NATO is standard rifles
But it'll change within 2-4 years
Nice looking gun
Lmao
It's practical and easy to use but it has issues
Yeah understandable
Itās old
Stock is easily the worst part
I assume itās painful?
Some complained that they can't really use it while in prone
Hard to get it on shoulder
Ohh
Idk how tho
You used it?
Are you really going to let them call you standard
Yes
Be special and demand a Suomi Kp/31
They wouldnāt even call you special?
No
Our captain literally said "I don't care if you identify yourself as man, woman or a rock, ur job would still be to kill Russians"
It was simple message
thats very open minded
very interesting
whenever I ask people about their service years they talk about everyone being nice or memorable
Kirk's murdered got arrested mahahah
Thing is I never really wanted to be there
Okay there weren't like bad people
Just slightly annoying at best
then why were you there
lol
oh I see that sucks
Dude istg the one we had sucked most
She was so annoying
Always gave us unnecessary stuff while everyone else had free time
Important šš»
The captain?
What level
It'd be equivalent of staff sergeant ig
Oh ok
Whatās the funny Finnish word for it
Ylikersantti
Ir doesn't even have translation
lol that is a funny word
Why is Finland so funny
Yet also cool
lol I donāt touch It
The first message I sent there in weeks caused chaos bcs my name
Awesome, tell them youāre a leprechaun fan
The what now
You like leprechauns
They cool
Yup
Real question though
Why is unknown in your name
Did you ever not know the duck?
Never
So why is it unknown
Unknown part is bcs my edgy teenager years but it has stuck w me
Not sure actually
I don't remember why I chose unknown part actually
So you were just a duck pfp user at some point
And were edgy
Pretty much
9
Considering how gay you are this makes sense
LMFAOO
How
Did you design the website you took the racial slur screenshot from
Okay maybe 11/10 if u put it like that
But uhh
Designed a different website
Yea things were bad
lol
Lowk I wanna see what stupid things I did in my life when I die
Like highlights when I die
That'd be amazing
Would be awesome
Sadly mine are probably pretty lame
Like maybe top 10 stupid things Iāve done includes my guesswork
I remember saying n-word to one and uhh
Okay uhh
He's actually in wheelchair and doesn't probably understand where he is. IK IT SOUNDS BAD BUT I FORGOT THE REAL THING HE HAS. but when I was like early middle school and he passed by me in cafeteria and he can't control his noises/screams, I said "shut up n-word"
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Ok so it was to a disabled kid š
Makes it even worse
Yea...
Ngl you were acting Swedish with that one
Istg that has to be my most embarrassing moment of my life
Yes, fuck Sweden
lol
I couldnāt compete tbh, all my embarrassing moments are nothing similar
I don't think anyone can top that
Tbh the only way it could get worse is if you beat him up afterwards
Calling disabled person n-word has to be lowest thing you can do
I want to make a joke so badly
Dms
Fair
Did you?
Nope
Never beaten anyone out of boxing ring
Ngl some people deserve it
Good
Youāve boxed?
Yes you mentioned it before I just canāt believe it because youāre skinny looking
I was in better shape lmfao
Fair enough
If itās similar to what I saw youāre not, youāre just skinny looking
Actually
Actumally
I did 52 in minute when I was in army
So idk
I can probably do 40+ now
Actually I'm bored I'll try it rn
Are you doing push-ups correctly? @fallow shard
Good luck
41 isnāt bad
Yea
In a minute?
I expected 45
Yea
Ehhh I mean itās fine considering you had a long break from the army with your medical issues
The correct push-up is when your chest should touch the ground.
Yea but I've been active after it too
I'm pretty sure ik the proper form
Yeah idk how many I could do in a minute lol
Try
Do you just count the minute in your head or use a timer
I used timer
Alright
Had to check my army stats
Alright
22
Thatās honestly still really good
It's above average
By a lot lol
Can't wait for skiing season to start so it'd get higher
lol
Really? Thought it was in the 25 region?
I might be mixing it up
Has to be because thereās no way Iām above average when I never do pushups
Okay it'd make sense
Yup
I never work out but I have an ok frame if I wanted to, so makes sense that I would be high average for those who donāt work out
Yea pull ups is 6-12 for intermediate?? I thought people can barely do the 6
Yeah wtf I donāt think Iāve ever done one because thereās no bar lol
I've one and I can do like 10 probably rn
In a minute
Yes youāre fit I get it
Lmao
Yeah but I hate it š Iām just trying to not overeat rn.
Like something about working out makes my sensory system mess up and itās weird
You can do pretty much anything, swimming for example
Swimming is actually very demanding
Yeah I used to swim a lot more, it was my main thing
Especially for ur back and shoulders
Yeah
But it covers ur whole body
Yeah
The main thing I appreciate about swimming is the saltwater does more than soap for helping acne on my back
lol
Also some of the not so demanding ones like badminton is good
I donāt know if thereās a badminton court here lmao
May have that but no way do I want to deal with flying balls
I always get hit in the face
Or do chess boxing w locals
Ok that may be easy if chess is the first round because I play fast
LMFAO
But we donāt have all these sports here
We have soccer, basketball, football (if youāre in a school), and tennis
I love how cross country skiing has basically no requirements
Then thereās some swimming stuff
Snow
Which we never get that much here and nobody can ski here
You could do it in the summer too but that's such a gayass sport that I despise it
lol idek how to do any snow sports
We donāt get enough snow to do much
Was able to sled one time and thatās it
Roller skating is pretty much skating
Try that
What
I donāt roller skate but Iāve tried, I just hate it and no matter how much people try and show me how I can never actually get any speed. I can at least stay upright though
It's actually fun I just can't do it in my yard which sucks
Would need to live in city
Try it out
Itās just like why would I drive halfway across town to skate alone lmao
Yeah I just find it boring š
So you need something that needs people
No I need something without people thatās also exciting to do alone
I'm starting to believe that you've wrong opinions
If it isnāt intellectually stimulating itās boring
Become grandmaster in chess and go to tournaments
That burns calories

I got chess burnout š
Iāve played since I was maybe 4? So 16 years
I only play it if Iām teaching someone
I will actually just chase you until you simply can't run anymore
That'd be good motivation
Why would I run away
I'd chase you down w machete
I would rather stand and fight, even if Iām deluded the machete is only threatening from the blade, the side isnāt so bad so it can be controlled
I have good pain tolerance
Actually I could teach u boxing
Could I use weapons?
I wouldnāt want to get a concussion
Wanna test how ur liver takes it?
Sure
all American continent population only 1 billion, all African continent population 1.5 billion,but one country india has 1.6 billion population lol
It's the most painful experience you'd have
My dermatologist freezes my fingers until they get frostbite and I can take it
It sucks ngl
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Yeah Iām more worried about the permanent effects
You can't, ur body will go into temporary shock and you'll crash to ground
Maybe donāt do that
It's probably for the best
Thatās fine, I took no painkillers after a surgery cause I just can tolerate whatever. Maybe itāll suck but it wonāt hurt after the shock is over
china also š
Oh it will, even professional boxers will come crashing down if it the punch/kick is properly executed
Thatās the one thing I have going for me, I may not be strong but I donāt feel pain well
It has reasons why it's illegal to hit in certain age groups and usually under 18
True, doesnāt mean I will care
I donāt care about my own well being enough to
Have you ever gotten proper hit to ur nuts
Yes
Bcs it's worse
I guess, but it honestly wasnāt that bad, like it instinctively made me react in a weird way but the pain was over in under 15 seconds
U r weird
The only thing I have going for me physically is high pain tolerance lol
Just donāt think about it
Concussion would fix that
Iāve walked around with a shard of glass in my foot a few times
lol yeah I donāt want one
Concussion is kinda scary
I could imagine
Had it like twice and it's weird feeling
Is it sort of like that feeling when you pass out?
Cause that is the one thing I cannot stand
Ywa but that feeling stays long
It's kinda dizziness and can't concentrate
Rip
It feels like ur brain is just foggy
Ok so the one thing I donāt want
Yea it's horrible
Luckily didn't have anything else
Bcs concussion has its risks too
Mine is probably already doomed
Maybe
Better
Probably yea
Lowk if I'd wanna try any mental problem for a week it'd be schizophrenia
Muslim vs Christian competition is strange. Those guys argue put tons of illogical arguments forward as if they destoryed the other side.
Like wdym hearing sounds sucks
Lowk both sides should stop arguing and just live life
My Finnish ex had schizophrenia I wonder if thatās how she got it
Need it rn
guys anyone know how to get sharesceen role?
Lmao
You need to level up, at least at 5 or 10. 
how to know my level
use / rank
After your surgery with or without radioactive iodine, it may take months or even years for the thyroglobulin number to come down to zero or undetectable.
use / rank
Top 3 disorders I wanna try out
Schizophrenia
Dissociative identity disorder
Pyromania
Those are the worst lmao
How r those worst
Eating disorder is the worst
Why wouldnāt they be
Death isnāt so bad
I was there I was turning into a skeleton
Do y wanna know what is technically considered disorder
._. the sarcasm in this one is wild
Anorexia is horrible
What
Only if you are entering paradise
Want to try out šš
Ok that may be the worst
What even is pyromania the urge to burn things?
Yup but you can't stop basically
You need therapy for it
lol
Same w necrophilia
They're in same category
Pretty much most things that end in -philia are going to be weird or bad
Disruptive impulse control
There is a surgeon that amputated his both legs
Yea
Ohh yeah because he liked it I remember that
Heās in jail now for insurance fraud
Thatās bad but at least the victim isnāt alive
Somnophilia is the real evil one tbh
Why I didn't become therapistš
True
Idk arenāt you doing nursing tho?
Yea
But therapist would've been cooler
Army and nursing is already pretty cool
Couldnāt you still change
You working or student
My scores r not high enough
How boring
I'd need to pass entrance exam and I don't have time/motivation ti study
Rip, here nurses are really dumb and some are antivaxxers so Iām sure you could do it here
Student
Donāt you just need a four year college degree for a psych degree
?
Iām not going into psychology so no idea
Here it's uni and 5 years
You gotta do a second degree to be actual therapist
Hello everyone
How are they allowed to be nurses??
They also donāt know how to draw blood correctly so thereās that
Never seen a nurse who could ever do that without trying 20 times
Here it's required
Itās America my childhood best friends mom believed in placebo mlm stuff and posted some anti vax stuff and is a nurse
Please send some of your nurses to the US asap my arm is numb from all the idiot nurses
America is just circusš„
Yes
Antivaxxer nurses that can't draw blood
IMO if you donāt believe in vaccines get out of the medical field
Yes
Hard to do so when the secretary of health is an anti vaxxer

That's reasonable take
True
I did a whole course only to be a good phlebotomist
Americas average IQ is 98 ā
Americas combined IQ is 98 ā
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True, and since the average iq is 100 that really does show America is below average
Average is actually 90-105 but pinpoint average is 100
Yeah thatās my point
Itās an entire population below the pinpoint
On average
It should be concerning
Yeah
Finlands average is 102 oe something
Thatās cause you guys donāt dominate the world, if your country dominates the world you need to be dumb to accept the brutality
Did you guys went to an IQ testĀæ
Exactly
I don't trust the internet ones but the one I took said 121
Just out of curiosity
So yea
Impressive tbh
I'd actually trust more of real test
I׳m afraid to know my smartness level
Internet gives me much higher than my real by about 20
Yea that's why I don't trust it
The inaccuracies of them is too large
Also real ones give more details. Like Iām 135 on verbal comprehension or whatever itās called but on other things Iām like 85
I admit my dumbness according to my social interactions
It also inflates it so you feel better
It's not that bad
I'd love to do real one someday
I'd say I'm max 105
Yeah, for me it was extremely average in most but some skills were poor and some were in superior range
Which is average
Yeah Iām 102
Makes sense
Mathematics would go over my understanding
Even tho all of them has pattern
HEY ACTUALLY
We had kind of one in the military, no we didn't get iq scores
I failed at the advanced
We only got to know if we were average or something like that
My pattern recognition was above average and verbal was average
Yeah, idk if I have mine on hand
I hadnāt done any in 2 years
I donāt need much math besides my economics and statistics classes
What?
I'm doomedšš»
Itās only 8:30 pm here
I've phone call today early morning
Oh
8.15 or so
Rip

Imma crank up my notifs to max and hope I wake up
I assumed it would be like 3:30 lol
I'll go to sleep
Alright, ducknight
Goodnight
what's your favorite subject @fallow shard
She went to sleep
Wait till the sun rises
and the birds start chirping
Well, talking about God

@high raven any questions do you have from the gospels or related to faith?
What are you talking about? I'm an atheist.
Psalm 119:65-72
<65> You have dealt well with your servant, O Lord, according to your word. <66> Teach me good judgment and knowledge, for I believe in your commandments. <67> Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I keep your word. <68> You are good and do good; teach me your statutes. <69> The insolent smear me with lies, but with my whole heart I keep your precepts; <70> their heart is unfeeling like fat, but I delight in your law. <71> It is good for me that I was afflicted, that I might learn your statutes. <72> The law of your mouth is better to me than thousands of gold and silver pieces.
Was talking about God. Why atheism?
I only believe in what is proven by mathematics and physics.
And God is by definition unprovable and therefore impossible.
Do you believe that you exist?
God's can't be measured by physics
You can measure physical objects with the laws of physics
fuck ass god
It's likely that I exist, we could also just be simulations, but this too is impossible to prove, so I don't make assumptions and I live my life.
For something to exist it must be composed of something.
Your gaze people die by war, even god cannot save themšš¹
Come on pray your god and god just watch the show

So you do exist but can't be proven by physics? Very well, if it's can't be proven that doesn't mean you don't exist. You answered your own question
Stupid, you still live in rock
Maybe I can't do it with pure calculations but I can do it with logic.
Hmm, how do you do with logic
why not? thats the question š¤
Because the evidences point out it as invalid
what evidence š
I didn't say that. I exist according to physics, but science tells us that we are just electrical impulses in our brains, so we can be replicated, and therefore we could be in a simulation.
The effect of the cause
.
The order of the creation etc
How do you prove yout existence š¤

big banggg š¤
What evidences would you need š¤
universe...? š¤
As a child, I used to play at asking "why" about everything. The chain of "whys" always ended with God, but no one ever managed to answer the question "why does God exist?"
Wrll, I understand. It doesn't answer my question like how do you prove yout existence š¤
Today's poison, the infinite regress fallacy
although theres no answer to this, theres also not an answer that god made it š
Various possible definitions. Descartes said that since I think, therefore I exist; physics says that I have mass and wavelength, therefore I exist.
okay so tell me, should i burn my friend just because they dont love me š¤
DIY ft God
Well if you believe in big bang theory.. my question would be what caused big bang š¤
didnt someone and i answerthat...
God breaks so many laws of science, and that's impossible. And if you want to talk to me about a spiritual plane where God is the "boss," I'll tell you right away that I don't believe it. We're just electrical impulses inside an organic mass. Nothing else
why does everythig have to be created but not god?|
I suppose it's statistics but we're not sure and in any case the idea that it was someone with mystical powers seems surreal to me.
something that just seem to have so much power and just create stuff is just... š¤ absurd
Alr, but do you give existence to yourself?
creating rules and tell uf things even though they created it to happen
Which is?
scroll up and u'll see it š
No, my parents gave me existence by deciding to mate.
That's great mate
were not fond of how big bang was created, but were also not fond of how god was created š¤
Don't you have anything else to say?
My existence is simply survival
How God breaks the laws of science š¤
Nothing is created, everything is transformed
Ooo no answer for it š I see š
saying they created humans, even though its from evolution, the humans being kicked out of heaven, the storm or whatever its called, and other stuff
I don't see it
Where do you derive your existence from
no way š
We are an animal species like all others and like all our organisms always try to survive.

By walking on water
And cursing a fig tree for not having figs
yes papa
And they derive their existence from their ancestors and so forth.. and this ultimately goes to ?
Don't forget the best: Turning jews to monkeys
LOL
Religion must stop making us believe we are a superior species. We are animals and nothing else.
ikr š ragequittig so hard theyre bothering us sigh
feels like the typical christian questions aka 'hey atheist, if you were to have a christian baby....'
Ultimately goes back to big bang?
The survival of the species because we fear death and what we can do is move forward and pass on our knowledge to future generations.Or hide behind old books and old beliefs that reassure us that after death there will be salvation.
big bang is what made it all happen
atoms love u āļø
Yes, obviously we get to the big bang but it doesn't mean that God exists.
I understand but the question is where do they derive their existence from
From not wanting to die.
And what caused big bang
religion is just to cope for what happens after death mane
And what caused big bang
and what cuased god? š¤
We don't know yet. But if your answer to the Big Bang is God, it seems to me to be just the solution a frightened animal species takes to be more secure.
Religion was born only to explain phenomena that our ancestors couldn't explain. And it has become a way for our species to avoid fearing the unknown. Like death or the big bang
Science doesn't answer every questions. So if big happened and we derived our existence from big bang, what caused big bang.. š¤
If you want to call the cause of the Big Bang "God", I don't yet know what generated it, so I have nothing against it. However, God can only be this does not mean that there is hell with fire and devils that torture you or heaven with little angels
well then that doent answer everything along with breaking the laws of physics, things have to be created because of something that also has been created
Either God judges us or it exists. There is only something that generated the Big Bang.
Oh now let's talk about morals.. where do we derive our morals from?
not to mention but whatever 'god' did makes satan lit not the 'villain' everyone sees
How so
Because species take different evolutionary paths. We developed our minds (This is how critical thinking was born), and being weaker, we understood the need to live in groups (from this the company was born). The union of society and critical sense led to the development of morality.
It's all extremely logical
lit wdym how so š , big bang is created for a reason which we dont know yet, humans are created due to evolution, everything is created with a reason, so why ot god?
I see. So, when someone murders or treats someone unfairly.. is that objectively wrong?
Because God is ultimate cause that give them existence.. his existence is not contingent upon anything.
Our brains aren't designed to thrive in society and are therefore prone to adapting to an environment that doesn't facilitate it. This creates mental defense mechanisms to problems, such as anxiety, or in more serious cases, split personality, etc. It is normal that in this system someone decides to murder or rebel
thats justan absurd thinking what
everything has to be created due to something
especially god itself
And that's objectively wrong
Why God itself supposed to be created
There is no right or wrong. We humans have decided that there is good and evil. Look at nature and other species.
just because theres logically a first mover doesnt mean this first mover is the christian god
everything is created, why not god
thats my question
because theres a first mover
Why would he š
mr christian pls explain why the first mover has to be the judeochristian abrahamic yahweh instead of some other plausible deity
If murder is subjective opinion, why do we make laws and imposed it on others as to say don't murder?
Some other deites such as?
because morality is a socially beneficial contract that humans evolved to uphold, and besides the objective existence of laws does not justify the normative existence of morals
anything u can think of im sure u can try using ur imagination
theres no reason it has to be a deity known to humans
Because otherwise society wouldn't exist.
Well, could you give me few examples.. when you say other deties such as?
wdym such as i literally said theres no reason it has to be any human god we know
but just for the sake of the argument why cant it be like zeus or buddha
So for the society murder is objectively wrong because it protects the society. Point proven again.
Zesu or buddha is depicted as a composed being. Can't be the first mover. Next?

is bro dumb
What's the main argument here guys
Requires high iq 
i dont wanna debate someone who doesnt even have the mental faculties to grasp nonconstructivism
and cant tell the difference between normative and objective statements
i challenged him to explain why some hypothetical god, doesnt have to be any god we know, other than the christian god cant be the first mover
Buddha ot Zeus is described as a composed being cause they do have he physical body parts. Can't be the first mover.
You must distinguish social laws from moral laws. Example: Slavery in the 1700s was a social law but obviously not a moral law. Social laws are those necessary for the survival of society. Moral laws are what people believe and want to be.
and mans just asking me to give examples like hes never heard of nonconstructivist proofs before
Judeo Christian God necessarily exits in all possible worlds including hypothetical worlds. 
u dont even have the ability to understand the argument im asking u to prove
i retire myself from this debate
Spears and pitchforks in hand to sacrifice goats to God
Moral laws preserve the society and well beings of a human, right?
Are you aware that the hypothetical worlds are the possible Worlds in philosophy?
Judeo Christian God exists in every possible worlds. End
requires high iq told you 
It's easier to argue the existence of god in general, i don't think he has enough evidence to prove the existence of his own god lol
If you are bad, I'm your dad tbh

bro doesnt read at all
google the gamer god hypothesis
though im sure u wont cuz u have double digit iq and fancy urself as intellectually superior
Which God has to be in hypothetical world, randy.DOG?
Cooking people gives me more joy 
I've told you before, your ability to make good arguments is really poor
No, then you have to understand that society is a survival mechanism that we implemented in prehistory, where we then remained because it was the easiest way to survive.Now the need to survive is not as it was in the past, but we can't do anything to change our organization. So there are two types of laws:1) Social law is what various people in the world sit down at a table and decide the rules that allow the social system to exist. Examples: don't kill each other, don't steal, etc.2) Moral law, on the other hand, is unique to each man and derives from his idea of himself. Example:I don't want to I don't want to feel so superior to others that I want to kill someone.
Describe me the nature of God in hypothetical world?
Spaceless massless timeless entity
Why do we need to survive if we have no purpose of life to survive
hypothetical god for the sake of the argument, who for all intents and purposes is not the judeochristian god that gave u the ten commandments and is the son of man jesus christ, who supports the same things but is unaware of humankinds existence, etc. u dont have any way to falsify this gods existence compared to ur own, because ur religion is by definition unfalsifiable, and u are unable to grasp this because ur comprehension of english is poor and u didnt bother to read my original texts
That's Judeo Christian God 
What makes you believe that
its like arguing with a tard sticking his foot in a pile of shit and saying that hes smarter than einstein š
i retire myself from this debate dont ping me LMAO
If you want to discuss something with a Christian, discuss it with shawn or sanna
It is not even a Christian
OK so by reading what you sent is that.. the possible world you are describing is that the world with no human beings hence requires no revelations..
Again point proven, judeo Christian God is a necessary being. He would still exist in all possible worlds even tho the humans being would not exist. 
Because life is the only thing we have, and therefore it wouldn't make sense not to survive. To survive, we then developed emotions like fear, which releases adrenaline when experienced to run faster.
Are you a Muslim? Does Allah exists in all possible worlds?
Why surive and bear suffering without any purpose?
@plain ruin
@latent steppe Your ideas are right, but you don't know how to argue with these people. You have to make them believe they have the discussion in their hands.
He's not a Christian. And he doesnt talk about the philosophy of religion. Only guy who would help your case is me

Because it is the only thing we have and preserving it is the only way to maintain our existence since we are not sure that after death we will exist.
Obv I am sure that after death there is no existence
no i dont wanna argue with tards LOL
Why do we need to preserve our existence if we don't have any purpose for to preserve it 
@severe burrow
Home work for you is that read the theistic necessary being.
Believe what in exactly
"That's Judeo Christian God
"
I repeat, for your illogical mind. Because it's the only thing we have and because we're not sure what will happen after death.
Describe me the nature of that God
So your summarise answer because that's the only thing we have... but you still without purpose.. it again letting Me ask you the same question
. Why surive if there is no purpose?
What's the other alternative? Leaving the only thing we're sure of? What you're saying doesn't make sense.
Because the only God you have is the Judeo Christian God who's timeless, spaceless and massless
How did you conclude that?
Serving for no purpose is deemed as just surviving.. but it doesn't answer we need to surive in this world that we get often suffer.. why not just kill ourselves and the game will be end for forever? Because ultimately there is no purpose for suffering, striving to live.. no purpose at all
Look at the nature of the biblical God. He's described as God that is one.. spirit, timeless, spaceless and so on
So the Bible is your primary source?
Because we don't know what happens after death, and we also know that life isn't always about suffering, but has many beautiful sides. However, those who think life is all bad commit suicide.
To prove the existence of Judeo Christan god
To understand The nature of God.. we can go through the natural theology and also the revelation. For me my primary source is the natural theology
That's called no purpose
What do you mean by natural theology
@severe burrow Now I think I'm going to sleep (it's 6.23). It was fun talking to you, I hope my ideas have raised some doubts that you can verify on yourown. Just out of curiosity, I wanted to know your age and country of origin, if that's okay, of course.
That we understand God through analogical reasons like observing the creations
It Didn't create any doubt
Tbf
Observing the creation can only lead you to the existence of god, I asked what makes you believe that the "God" is Judeo Christan god
Nvm
Donāt ask a question itās a trap
It's okay. Is it a problem to tell me how old you are and where you are from?
Because that's the God of judeo Christian's God
22, Seoul
How do you know
By looking at the nature of judeo Christian God
1+1+1 = 1 ahh religion.
Where can I look for the nature of Judeo Christan god?
The gatekeepers in the AOC group canāt wait to mute me and time me out for no reason now I am recording them to keep a file so that everyone knows that they are not of Christ
All you have to do is pay me $9.99 and itāll be revealed to you
Aaaaaaaaa I understand many things now. Think more rationally and evolutionarily. Just because people have always told you to think one way doesn't mean it's the right one. Have a good life and goodnight for me.
Imagine trying to scam "my kind" you must be brave

Maybe I am
These people are infants and they donāt have any idea how to live the way Jesus Christ has directed them to live as followers
The Scripure, like John 4:24, the genesis, the book of John etc
<24> God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
If god is spirit, then
āthose who worship god must worship in god and truthā
@crude arch Is a hypocrite and he should resign from being trusted in this vc
Make that make sense grammatically
How do I know the scripts are trustworthy when they keep contradicting each other
These guys are only hanging out at not at all teaching anything @crude arch
John 11:35
<35> Jesus wept.
bible has more updates than discord app
And apparently quran is the latest edition according to Muslims
@turbid dome general chat is more interesting rn
@crude arch I know that you will get what you deserve and Christ will present himself to you someday but you are far from Christ right now
Which part is a contradiction
Source?
Many historical events
Huh whoās talking rn I canāt see
45ish minutes till the money is due
Aladdin is just surround by a bunch of yapping
For example in every other major gospel, saimon carried the cross, in john it was Jesus,
Matthew 27:32
John 19:17
<32> As they went out, they came upon a man of Cyre'ne, Simon by name; this man they compelled to carry his cross.
<17> So they took Jesus, and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull, which is called in Hebrew Gol'gotha.
@urban swift wonāt bail me out ššš
I can make it 20% compound interest daily
I still remember about the loan
Damn it š
So itāll be 24k if you donāt pay up today, 28.8k the next day and so on

Shouldāve thought about this before gambling it away
Hava nagila lil bro
Daym I offered 16% compound yesterday. I played cheap
You offered after I already took the other deal 
First to get the offer out ig š
trust me bro š¹
I have never seen n word this way
Iām at this point what nearly 50k in debt
Yup, itās going well
That was a simple interest 20%. Still Better than compound @16% ngl š
Well now that I have leverage I can make it 20% compound lmao
It is googling the explanations for Contradictions
Can you all slow down I havenāt even taken economics yet š
Compound includes interest on the interest, so as time goes on interest goes up and up faster. Simple is a flat amount based on the original
So what youāre telling me is if I donāt pay you back essentially Iām going to owe you so much more as the days pass
Your 20% simple became 20% compound since you donāt have the money to pay me back and Iām financially exploiting you as you have no other option.
You know what Aladdin this is all your fault
I never asked for that money
Yes
Yes get mad at Aladdin
Youāre the loan shark who I now owe 24k to youāre not off the hook
Look you agreed to it, not my fault youāre desperate
Interest rate 10% per day
You put 100$
Day 1 it'll be 110 (10% increased on 100)
Day 2 it'll be 121 (10% increased on 110)

When did I agree to these ridiculous deals š«©
We really are the uk and France of this chat
Iām going to be in debt and I havenāt even got credit yet
I'm germany
Well these are things you should think about
gimme..... money...
here's Aladdin
I wonder how your economy will be doing in ā29
I thought I was until my money all disappeared on one turn clearly Iām cooked
you're a country š³
Where's noor1
I bet in 4 years I can buy the debt from Aladdin for cheap
Hi germany, im ahon
she died
Yes, because Martin is going to Poland
Yeah thatās not great
Yo wtf it makes too much sense now
You sound like some hindu god
hell yeah
a lot of femboys there they say
All eyes on femboys
nah he sounds like an Egyptian god
Hey
would you be willing to give to a really good cause..
is gooning to femboys gay?

yes
or no
No
When I sneeze it goes like
Aushhhuitzzz
wait...
Iām done for
now I know you do it but can't prove it
I only have heard of OÅwiÄcim
Hey buddy my good friend
help a person in need (me)

He's cannabis not Anubis
Beggar mode unlocked
Must be hindu god
what do u need?
I don't get itš¶
28 minutes till that extra 4K kicks in
Letās say I needed about 200,000 coins.. on this discord gambling game would you help me 
Please Iām begging you
Anubis is an ancient Egyptian god of death
Cannabis is a substance which makes you high
what do I get in return š
Cannubis is when you put Anubis in a can
@thorny steeple someone teasing u?
Itās 12
There's only one hindu god people associated with cannabis that's shiva.
I can't think of others.
noted
š«©
I didn't know you were a dad
no
I have the humor of one but hate children. Make it make sense
do I know you?
ya u do
He's goated
who r u?
Anything literally anything please Martin and Aladdin are robbing me
someone from the lyramids
remind me
ms
With this text your profile tag "Gaza" brings a completely different meaning
ohhhh so we're neighbors
yaa yaa ahahhah
Pineapple
nice I'll worship that
I think this qualifies as defamation as our contract is legal and not robbery. Iām taking you to court for 200,000 coins
You could settle for 20,000
Mars is better one
I have 0 coins
God no not more money š«©
Is the cross not possible to be carried by two people?
He's god of war and agriculture
How so
Thankfully youāre not in debt
"Hate childern"
Hire a lawyer, settle, or something idk
I do but I donāt think they should be bombed Iām not Israel
Hire a lawyer with what money 
maybe but irl I prefer Allah

Sure but in john he carries the cross by himself
John 19:17
(Personally I'd ask for help)
Go get some money or find one to work for free
<17> So they took Jesus, and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull, which is called in Hebrew Gol'gotha.