🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

you guys could also try to prove me doesn't exist let me see which conspriacy or bullsh*t would appear

🤣

America woke up, Europe's awaking, we don't have to wake because once we see such influence appears in our society it means end of it

our ideological value of dealing with such recessionism ideology is still increasing

[latent steppe]

what is this shit

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-and-crying-black-man-praying-and-crying-black-man-praying-man-praying-gif-1984228927205209673

[latent steppe]

twin theres slowmode

[spice bobcat]

God if you exist, Strike this nice guy down

[latent steppe]

god if u exist give me a 16 year old japanese boy right now

[spice bobcat]

Konnichiwa arigatou gozaimasu

[severe burrow]

cant see people talking about religion

[spice bobcat]

[latent steppe]

@deft sedge PLEEEEEEASE

[severe burrow]

Why?

[latent steppe]

JUST GIVE ME A CHANCE GIVE ME ONE CHANCE PLEAAAAAASE LEMME CRACK

[viscid jay]

bobby what the hell

[latent steppe]

[deft sedge]

im not 16

[latent steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-i-dont-want-to-play-andy-woody-sad-gif-17075553

I DONT WANNA PLAY WITH U ANY MORE

[deft sedge]

oh my

liberation

[severe burrow]

If you are over 18, it's really against TOS

[latent steppe]

im young at heart

[fresh flower]

What size shoes do you wear

Can you send a pic of your feet I'm a visual learner

[hybrid herald]

*We are visual learners

[plain ruin]

RANDY NOOOOOOOO

[feral river]

40

we call it 40 here but idk what unit we are even using

[spice bobcat]

Damn you got femboy feet

[feral river]

not possible if you want to lick your screen

that could be poisonous

[fresh flower]

You got petite feet bro

You could earn some proper money online with that

[lilac iron]

3 or 1

[plain ruin]

@summer sphinx i got you a seller

[lilac iron]

Lol

3 personalaaaaatyyyy

[fresh flower]

I know someone with 37 and the idiot just uses his feet to walk

What a waste

[thorny steeple]

im unconvinced any god exist

[plain ruin]

Does he also hang them off the train...

[thorny steeple]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[spice bobcat]

Is this a split reference

[plain ruin]

Inside joke

[thorny steeple]

yall so greedy

share the joke buddy

[formal pilot]

I watched nearly 20 minutes of it, and skipped to the "most watched" part, i don't think I'd watch him again anytime soon, and most likely I would never recommend this channel

It's not my type, I'm sorry

[thorny steeple]

what

that was boring

[uncut tiger]

You wasted his time

Now he's looking for compensation

[formal pilot]

I watched the compilation, not the one with Alex

[uncut tiger]

Oil up buddy@thorny steeple

Time to compensate

[thorny steeple]

oh

wait let me suggest you my favorites

[uncut tiger]

Stop ignoring me Matt

[formal pilot]

I like well put together discussions where the point is not about defeating the other party, and it's more about coming to the truth. It was also filled with logical fallacies

[thorny steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwJ3PFKnlK0

this is one of my favorites

[thorny steeple]

why the host?

[formal pilot]

Yes the host matt dillahunty, he also never went to the college

And was unable to answer simple things

Questioning a question isn't that great

[thorny steeple]

idk if he did

was he did his high school graduate

and he went to navy

[plain ruin]

Can we turn this into #💭｜general again

[uncut tiger]

[thorny steeple]

and he was devout christian for 20 or more years

[plain ruin]

Nvm... Mb for asking

[thorny steeple]

but thats not the point

[plain ruin]

Where's Minecraft
Did he finally learn

[uncut tiger]

Learn what

[formal pilot]

I'm sorry dude but i don't watch this kind of debates, just personal preferences

[uncut tiger]

Did he get muted or smth

[thorny steeple]

what simple answer?

[plain ruin]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

For what

[plain ruin]

Denying people's existence/right to live

[thorny steeple]

and what logical fallacies

[uncut tiger]

But that's what he was banned for a month ago 💀

[plain ruin]

idk how long they take to ban someone dawg

Can you unban kukumber💔💔💔

[uncut tiger]

[thorny steeple]

can you tell me what truth he should have told about?

[uncut tiger]

That mf fought with me everyday because I'm Pakistani

[spice bobcat]

Reasonable reason

[uncut tiger]

Sybau you don't have the American visa yet

[thorny steeple]

ur pakistani?

[uncut tiger]

Can't say that

[plain ruin]

You racist, just because he's indian and you didn't "show him your major" 💔

[spice bobcat]

doland trump whyyy

[plain ruin]

why cant i say pure💔

[spice bobcat]

Source?

[uncut tiger]

He says his papa is in a soldier deployed at the Kashmir border so he knows more than everyone in this server about the Kashmir conflict

[plain ruin]

whats worse is that all his messages are deleted as well

[uncut tiger]

And he uses that to say whatever the fuck he wants about POK

[plain ruin]

😭😭😭

[plain ruin]

Crazy

[spice bobcat]

A great treasure was lost that day

[plain ruin]

"He's one of the people told what to do by totally honest people, our government would do nothing wrong"

[thorny steeple]

new york times

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-18313685835431531380

[plain ruin]

Jai Kukumber🙏

[spice bobcat]

Jai shree kukumber. Free my boy 🙏🏻

[plain ruin]

The next firecracker goes out to lil bro... Majored in JEE and LeetCode🙏💯🔥😍

[fresh flower]

Why's your pfp a white guy

Why is your role fluent

[thorny steeple]

yea

[thorny steeple]

because i became one

[fresh flower]

Your ass is NOT a native

[severe burrow]

What is three and what is one 🤔

[sweet wolf]

filthy booster BLACK

[fresh flower]

Worst part is I forgot to cancel my nitro

I got 1 month, this shit renewed

Now I'm not able to eat

[plain ruin]

Sorry, the genes related to my skin colour are dominant 😎 👆

[thorny steeple]

im happy for you

so a native can score 100 in a english test compared to a Chinese English graduate?

[latent steppe]

see u in valhalla brother

[feral river]

girls used to have 37/38

[formal pilot]

You're entitled to have different opinions, if you like him it's great

[feral river]

guys are around 40-44

[formal pilot]

But personally I won't watch it

[thorny steeple]

which logical fallacy is used here?

[shell hemlock]

Brother this is male feet in Asia

[thorny steeple]

he asked for a clarification question. how is that a logical fallacy?

[shell hemlock]

Normal

[uncut tiger]

[thorny steeple]

thats not even a argument or rebuttal, thats a question

[uncut tiger]

stawp yappin abt feet mfs

[shell hemlock]

Some people I met they are male have more bigger foot I call them Bigfoot

[thorny steeple]

do you believe in bigfoot?

[shell hemlock]

No

[thorny steeple]

this image makes me poop

[thorny steeple]

why not?

[uncut tiger]

i'm waiting

[spice bobcat]

How much for the other one

[formal pilot]

There's ad homanin at end

[thorny steeple]

lmao

[formal pilot]

The question was about the GOD in general, not a particular God,

[thorny steeple]

no

he was being a douche

[formal pilot]

I don't like him and I won't watch him

[thorny steeple]

by not answer the clarification

[spice bobcat]

That's what an ad hominem is

[thorny steeple]

ik

but all he did was asked a clarrification question

and the caller was like, it doesnt matter to me, why are you questioning me

am i the host?

[formal pilot]

The question was about the GOD in general, not a particular God,

If a person cannot understand it most likely I won't watch him for philosophical knowledge

[thorny steeple]

and blah blah

[thorny steeple]

thats silly

[formal pilot]

Sure

[thorny steeple]

he was leading to a question

[spice bobcat]

The guy fell under the category of the straw man fallacy

[thorny steeple]

and he refused to answer

[shell hemlock]

There is no Bigfoot there is my father walking in the forest to drink water and urinating at 3am

[fresh flower]

I'm moving

[formal pilot]

Because the question was about god in general

Not a particular God lol

[spice bobcat]

Existence of god in general and a particular god are distinct things bro

[thorny steeple]

and in the end when asked," what god you believe in, he said, "oh it doesnt matter to me"

[fresh flower]

Religion religion religion

Can't even talk about feet or ANYTHING

[spice bobcat]

Size 40 is a size 5.5 in UK

Kids section level feet

[shell hemlock]

But size 40 bro this is small for men here I have one friend he is his feet is 43

[thorny steeple]

are there anymore parts where u think he made logical fallacy?

[uncut tiger]

43 inches 💀

[spice bobcat]

It's a straw man bro

[thorny steeple]

do you have evidence of that suggest theres no bigfoot?

[formal pilot]

Just watch the first 3 min of video you sent me, you'll find Ad homanin

That guy is equivalent to Muhammad hijab

[thorny steeple]

where?

[spice bobcat]

You can take it dw

[shell hemlock]

Please do removing you brain dirty

[thorny steeple]

so u dont like him bc of he curses and attacks?

[fresh flower]

That's normal though

I have 44.5

[formal pilot]

Because his explanations are not satisfactory for my standards

[thorny steeple]

are you a perfectionist?

[plain ruin]

Oh, that? I am native though😭 My parents hate the fact that I haven't cared about the other languages and would rather learn arabic and french

[thorny steeple]

whats ur standards?

[spice bobcat]

He asked which god to a question about the existence of god in general. He's basically diverting from the actual point.

[fresh flower]

#Go back to India

[formal pilot]

And I'm not going to reply to you, because I've already told you it's not my kind of content yet you're still forcing me to like him

[shell hemlock]

Brother scientists studied this the hair and foot are hoax hair from someone butt hair maybe and the foot they just carve in the grass how it possible, the only explanationation I can say is somebody uncle grandfather father from another monster is big and hairy chest

[fresh flower]

There should be a rule here

[shell hemlock]

Minecraft ishe femboy

[fresh flower]

Religious discussions only on Friday and Sunday

[thorny steeple]

and he was asking which god, hes still talking about gods, but in specific, that was a clarrification question

[thorny steeple]

so ur saying theres no evidence of bigfoot?

[plain ruin]

I would ride my bicycle to you, and this is how you treat me 💔

[shell hemlock]

There is evidence that bigfoot don’t exisr

[fresh flower]

Is bro equating God with bigfoot

[spice bobcat]

It's "A generalized question" not a specified one. Semantics bruv, it needn't be clarified.

[shell hemlock]

Maybe you have sample of Bigfoot urination that I’m haven’t heard of

[spice bobcat]

Speaking of urine

Where's diaz gone

[plain ruin]

What happened here

Why are we have serious chats

[spice bobcat]

They redeemed the seriousness 💔

[shell hemlock]

He is sending butt in general chat and I’m coming here to escapa

[plain ruin]

WHY DID YOU REDEEEM IT💔💔💔

[fresh flower]

If yall were stuck in a desert and you were dehydrated would you drink your urine

[plain ruin]

Alone or...

[shell hemlock]

That is reminding me of one lady she did that when she got lost in a trail while she hiking

[spice bobcat]

Yes, it's sterile and a great antiseptic. Perfect to drink. Birds like vultures piss on their legs to clean themselves 😄

[shell hemlock]

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/travel-writer-documents-survival-drinking-her-own-urine-after-desert-fall/

[plain ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

400000000000% yes

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-dexter-stare-dexter-morgan-dexter-morgan-stare-dexter-arthur-gif-2486573239904215335

[thorny steeple]

Ok ur wrong, and let me explain

There is no evidence that Bigfoot exist, and there is no evidence that Bigfoot doesn't exist

So the most intellectually reasonable thing to assess this is by saying im unconvinced any bigfoot exists untill the evidence is found, so u reject the hypothesis or claim that bigfoot exist bc lack of evidence

[fresh flower]

Depends on if it's fresh and warm or not, I think the warmth would ruin it

[spice bobcat]

Why can't we say he doesn't exist bc of the lack of evidence. The claim holds equal weight

[fresh flower]

It would be like drinking soup

[thorny steeple]

cus then ur making a claim that he doesnt exist and you have the burden of proof to prove that

[spice bobcat]

But then I can say the same to you, you're saying he exists which is a claim as well.

[shell hemlock]

Sure you can say that but I have said to you that they have ‘evidence’ as in the evidence is other animal hair so this not Bigfoot this is an animal we know

[thorny steeple]

where did i say he exist?

or it exist

[shell hemlock]

I’m telling you this Bigfoot no he not there it’s my father

[fresh flower]

/poll

Do atheists always question religious people's beliefs because:

• Dunning-Kruger effect
• Fear of missing out on heaven

[thorny steeple]

then its not the evidence for THE BIGFOOT, but something which has nothing to with bigfoot right

[uncut tiger]

still talking about feet

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-knuckles-freaky-gif-12830799583270855342

[spice bobcat]

I was speaking about the "claim that bigfoot exists bc of the lack of evidence"

[fresh flower]

No, no one wants to talk to me about it

[thorny steeple]

what was dunning kruger i forgot

[uncut tiger]

please talk about feet with me and ollie

[shell hemlock]

It is evidence for Bigfoot bc the research in Bigfoot not somebody chest hair

[shell hemlock]

Stop flipping people off and sending butt salad face

[thorny steeple]

how can you justify its existance without evidence?

[fresh flower]

Cognitive bias where people who know the least think they know the most

[thorny steeple]

oh yes

[uncut tiger]

call me that again & i will call you shawarma sexual so sybau

[spice bobcat]

We can't, that's the answer. How can we justify it's inexistence without evidence?

It's a loop

[spice bobcat]

W sexuality

Shwarma amazing

[thorny steeple]

can you like refine the sentence

[shell hemlock]

You are salad face 🥦🥬🥕

[shell hemlock]

It is evidence for Bigfoot bc the research in Bigfoot not somebody chest hair

[thorny steeple]

no u cant to that but you can reject the claim, rejection is doesnt have burden of prove

[uncut tiger]

[thorny steeple]

Bigfoot not somebody chest hair

tf does this mean?

[spice bobcat]

What do you mean rejection doesn't need proof 🤨

[thorny steeple]

@shell hemlock

[thorny steeple]

yes correct ur getting it

[spice bobcat]

You're an atheist aren't you

[thorny steeple]

rejection is not a postive statement

but saying it doesnt exist, is a positive statement

[thorny steeple]

what does this as to with bigfoot?

[shell hemlock]

It about Bigfoot not somebody chest hair

[spice bobcat]

It's a stereotypical behavior I've observed

[high raven]

Correct, as long as you don't make a counter-claim

[spice bobcat]

I reject this idea

[thorny steeple]

ur saying bigfoot exist?

[spice bobcat]

[shell hemlock]

Something wrong with you

[thorny steeple]

yea

[shell hemlock]

^

[thorny steeple]

first of all can you like speak in fluent english, im having trouble understanding ur sentences

[thorny steeple]

basis of what?

[spice bobcat]

Well well well

[high raven]

[shell hemlock]

I am speaking English not Spanish

[thorny steeple]

you reject the bigfoot claim on basis lack of evidence

thats a idea which is logically fulfilled, so on what basis are you rejecting the idea

[shell hemlock]

Why are you starting this rn what is your motive

[thorny steeple]

can you just tell me, how many grammartical mistake are in here

[shell hemlock]

What is your intention

[thorny steeple]

on what?

[high raven]

"If you reject the idea of bigfoot for a lack of evidence, why then do you believe in God?"

[shell hemlock]

You asking me this stuff and trying to argue

[shell hemlock]

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-dr-strange-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-avengers-gif-22604801

[turbid dome]

Fair question tbh

[shell hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/mecca-kingdom-of-saudi-arabia-saudi-arabia-saudi-vision-vision-2030-gif-10611405584221574841

[thorny steeple]

i never did bring god in any of this bigfoot argument

[shell hemlock]

So what is your intention with this

We can agree Bigfoot doesn’t exist right

Or you think Bigfoot exist

[thorny steeple]

just tryna explain about evidence, lack of evidence, rejection of a claim and stuff

[shell hemlock]

Ok ?

[thorny steeple]

these both are a positive statement

all what i explain went in vain

😭

[shell hemlock]

[thorny steeple]

my postion is on bigfoot is, "im reject the claim of bigfoots existance based on lack of evidence"

[thorny steeple]

whos talking to you

[outer whale]

Ladies and gentlemen

I present to you the donkey

[thorny steeple]

this is null statement @shell hemlock

[main bison]

Who

[frail nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/baller-blockin-tell-your-mom-your-momma-gif-25838764

[uncut tiger]

theres only one sticker that can stop your yapping

allow me......

[thorny steeple]

😂

[thorny steeple]

im gay

[uncut tiger]

ss taken

[thorny steeple]

why would feel any negative connatation?

[outer whale]

@uncut tiger why

[shell hemlock]

I am going stop talking about this cuz I am wasting my battery with something we alrdy agree on when I can go looking at Diaz butt emojis

[turbid dome]

On my side it was kingmarw and frenzy who got that😭

[fallow shard]

[thorny steeple]

our conclusion is same but the method ur using has logical flaws

[turbid dome]

Hello ducko

[fallow shard]

Heoo

[turbid dome]

How’s it going

[shell hemlock]

[fallow shard]

I've only bad news or depends

[shell hemlock]

Average human beans starting argument just to start an argument

[turbid dome]

Ok let’s do both

[fallow shard]

I might go back to work before school bcs school gets delayed probably

AAAAAA

[turbid dome]

Whyyyyy

[rocky finch]

hi

i'm new to this app

well idk what to say

[turbid dome]

Something ig

[thorny steeple]

Saying “Bigfoot exists” is a positive claim because you’re adding something to reality. If you make that claim, you’ve gotta bring evidence.

Saying “Bigfoot does not exist” is also a positive claim because you’re still making a statement about reality, just in the opposite direction. That also needs evidence.

Saying “I don’t believe Bigfoot exists because there’s no good evidence” is different. That’s not a positive claim at all, it’s a rejection based on lack of evidence. And since you’re not claiming anything about reality itself, you don’t need to provide evidence to justify that stance.

Here

[deep zephyr]

Time to shit on @uncut tiger

[thorny steeple]

Basic epistemology 👆

[deep zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/i-knew-you-were-a-bitch-certain-annoyed-decided-sure-gif-13778674

[thorny steeple]

@shell hemlock epistemology

[thorny steeple]

whats up

[thorny steeple]

ptas new movie comming up

[deep zephyr]

Why do u change everything 🙄

[thorny steeple]

new personality

[deep zephyr]

Ik and I'm very excited

[thorny steeple]

im not

i didnt like his previous moives

[deep zephyr]

You suck

[deep zephyr]

Go find a ditch and die

Fym u didn't like PTA movies

[shell hemlock]

There is evidence of Bigfoot not existing you sister twister

[thorny steeple]

licorice pizza was best of his filmography

tho

[thorny steeple]

whats that evidence?

[deep zephyr]

Better than there will be blood 🙄

[thorny steeple]

na i didnt like it

but it was better then the master

[deep zephyr]

You have terrible taste in movies.

[thorny steeple]

and inherent vice

[shell hemlock]

Oh my goodness I don’t think your intention is about Bigfoot or something at all

[deep zephyr]

Bro is dissing on one of the greatest movies ever made 😭

[shell hemlock]

So do you believe Bigfoot exist @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

dw it took me months to understand basic epistemology

[thorny steeple]

i dont

[shell hemlock]

Okay end of story, the story completed, th ebook closed, narration ended

[deep zephyr]

What's your next hot take? @thorny steeple
Citizen Kane sucks?

Or Lawrence of arabia

[thorny steeple]

havent seen em

[thorny steeple]

im not saying there isnt any value to the movie

i dont get it or its not made for me

[deep zephyr]

Makes sense. You're a child. It was made for responsible adults

[thorny steeple]

in the end i just score a movie based on how much i enjoyed it

[thorny steeple]

idk if im gonna watch it future

[deep zephyr]

You don't deserve to watch it

[thorny steeple]

ur ignoring the most crucial part, how we get here, and someone could be a non believer in bigfoot for bad reasons and if you apply those reason to find other stuff out, it will lead you to wrong answers

[thorny steeple]

ok this is a little offensive

[thorny steeple]

did you watch under the skin?

[shell hemlock]

Okay so your true intention is to engage in religion discussion, correct ?

And how Islam bad blah blah blah oh you are Muslim you kill everybody

If you talk this way or you want to get into this discussion I won’t be here sorry

[deep zephyr]

Not offensive enough

[deep zephyr]

We had a whole conversation about it

[sweet wolf]

No more kottbullar ☹️

I hate paper straws man

Makes my drink taste like newspaper

[thorny steeple]

If I use this in a religion, ur mind will make up an answers to actually defend the answer dishonestly thats why i tried to explain the example the epistemology on Bigfoot to make u understand, but ur still ignoring the method and focusing on the conclusion

epistemology is just study of knowledge

[thorny steeple]

can u give me summary of movie

[deep zephyr]

Ask chatgpt

[thorny steeple]

well i wanted to know why you liked it

chatgpt will give me a conclusion of critics summary

[shell hemlock]

I was not being dishonest throughout our conversation actually you were the one being dishonest because I asked you “what is your motive and intention” and you said “to explanation to you about evidence, lack of evidence” - no this is not your true intention so you were being dishonest

[thorny steeple]

im not saying u will voluntarily

ull do it involuntarily

ur mind has never been thought out of religion so it will make up defenses

and question ur foundation from childhood to right now

which your brain is not comfortable for

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology/

if you wanna read more on how to find and understand knowlegde here

[shell hemlock]

Actually I thought we were just talking about Bigfoot and whether or not I think he existed

So I don’t know what you are trying to aim for

[thorny steeple]

@shell hemlock

this is all what i have been telling you for past 45 mins

[shell hemlock]

Stop this useless discussion

[thorny steeple]

i was using bigfoot in place of god

[shell hemlock]

So you admitted it

Finish

[thorny steeple]

bc you dont have evidence that god exist, but you dont have the god doesnt exist

but the third postion exist

which is idk if god exist

which is what atheism is about

atheism is not that god doesnt exist

its that i reject god based on lack of evidence

[severe burrow]

Aye don't harrash her

[turbid dome]

Yes atheism and antitheism get confused quite often

[severe burrow]

🤨

[thorny steeple]

damn im harrasing her without vulgur words

neither am i attacking

[deep zephyr]

It showed how people are shallow inside. We admire beauty from the outside but once it's gone and the illusion removed. We show our true evil.

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

i didnt ask for moral

[severe burrow]

She might take it as harras. Girls here report a lot, I meant

[thorny steeple]

i ask for summary

[deep zephyr]

It's a film about humans and their nature

[thorny steeple]

you think mods gonna made be, when i havent even went agaisnt rules?

[severe burrow]

Are you a fan of Matt Dilhunty?

[thorny steeple]

hmm

[thorny steeple]

could say so

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iTEfVGLLtA4

WE HAD ENOUGH

[severe burrow]

So do I but I went to jail

[severe burrow]

Oh lol

[thorny steeple]

thats it?

do you know hat summery is

[severe burrow]

Hi 🙂

[thorny steeple]

😭

[deep zephyr]

I ain't gonna write a long ass summary of a movie I watched years ago

[thorny steeple]

i asked for this

[thorny steeple]

thats a paragraph

[severe burrow]

My goodness, you are so innocent

[thorny steeple]

like this

[deep zephyr]

She was an outsider trying her best to fit in. She wanted to feel like us and act like us. After a while she found what humans are actually like

[thorny steeple]

ooh

damn

[deep zephyr]

My recollection of that movie isn't perfect. But I remember blown out by it

[thorny steeple]

i wanna watch this

kristian dunst

[feral river]

WHY YOU ARE USING A MAC

[deep zephyr]

It's not a your type of movie

[thorny steeple]

better then windows

[feral river]

HOW DOES THAT POSSIBLE WHICH MAC IS BETTER THAN WINDOWS ?

[thorny steeple]

i wanna find it out myself

[deep zephyr]

Lars von trier is far from your type of director

[feral river]

I need explain

[thorny steeple]

but i cant get the 4k version of it

[feral river]

in what perspective that Mac is better than Windows I wonder

[deep zephyr]

You should watch Michael bay movies

[feral river]

appearence ?

[thorny steeple]

i brought the lowest spec mac and its working from 5 years, my windows would give up in 4th or 3rd year

[deep zephyr]

Windows is the worst OS out there

[thorny steeple]

fuck u

[deep zephyr]

Bro is mental

[feral river]

why would an OS relating to age of using

[turbid dome]

Macs are good as pre bought PCs that you won’t do anything special on, but windows makes more sense for work as they can be cheaper while maintaining the same functions needed for efficiency, or you could build a better windows PC for gaming or advanced graphics

[feral river]

bud I'm talking about the OS not the PC

[thorny steeple]

if i get the 4k version of melancholia id watch it like rn

[deep zephyr]

Try torrent

[feral river]

if you are buying a windows PC and you would say that was trash which make perfect sense

[thorny steeple]

like? thats a brower?

[feral river]

but for the OS I don't really get it

MacOS is probably the worst OS ever to be made

even worse than Linux, at least you could use Linux in server

[deep zephyr]

Kids don't know torrenting 😭

[thorny steeple]

i mean i had a windows laptop and if its in 2nd year and i played a 4k movie it will degrade so fast, but that doesnt happen in macbook

[deep zephyr]

Bingo

[turbid dome]

That has to do with hardware, not operating system

[thorny steeple]

ok ill do a gpt explainin on it

[feral river]

then it make sense you should try to assemble a PC yourself and install the windows

that would be better than you expected

[high raven]

It does actually

[turbid dome]

You can even make a few quick adjustments to windows laptops. RAM is really easy to upgrade if needed

[thorny steeple]

thats too expensive and i dont play games i use it for studies, movies and basic stuff so macbook is also light weight

[high raven]

All Apple products are made to degrade fast (I own 4)

[thorny steeple]

in macbook?

[thorny steeple]

i dont see any problem with my macbook except the battery

andi ts been 5 years

also i use it while charging so that probelm is also solved

[feral river]

I own a tablet and 2 iphones that make sense

[turbid dome]

Yeah my phones battery when I got it was super good, probably the best phone battery I’ve seen. Within 2 months it was average and within 6 it was bad, they’re made to wear out quickly so you buy another one

[high raven]

Yes, I have an m3 air, you're not running into battery issues yet because you're circumventing the need for one

[high raven]

Exactly! It's not even a conspiracy theory

[thorny steeple]

mine is m1 air

its been 79% for months

[formal pilot]

If that's the case, i might switch to sony

But the software ain't that optimal now

[thorny steeple]

i dont think ill ever stitch to a windows laptop

[high raven]

Why?

[formal pilot]

Are batteries non-replaceable on the iphone?

[thorny steeple]

macbook is just better for me

in everyway compared to windows

[turbid dome]

I don’t think so? If they are you would need to send the device to apple

[thorny steeple]

yea

apparently

[formal pilot]

Why can't you just order an apple battery and replace it in local mob repair shop

[hard nebula]

Hello everyone

[formal pilot]

Yes, the EU keeps them in check

[manic juniper]

All phones suck now

[turbid dome]

Let’s say apple doesn’t like that 😂

[manic juniper]

In the name of making them thinner they are all impractical and expensive to own

[turbid dome]

What about the dinosaur phone

[thorny steeple]

ill buy this

[formal pilot]

Something a xiaomi user would say

[turbid dome]

The shapes are weird

[manic juniper]

Isn't that the frog phone

[turbid dome]

Idk

[manic juniper]

No. They all suck

[high raven]

I think each OS has its purpose, I use all 3 personally

[thorny steeple]

iphone is just better in everyway for me

[manic juniper]

The EU will introduce a right to repair regulation #soon hopefully it'll make phones great again

[thorny steeple]

i also need to buy a tv

[formal pilot]

Get kosher phone

[manic juniper]

And even this wouldn't be enough because Google wants to limit unsigned APKs now

[thorny steeple]

LG WOULD GO FINE

[turbid dome]

Watch the apple profits plummet lmao

[manic juniper]

We need another fork of Android or another OS from Linux

[thorny steeple]

i like everything about apple except their pricing

[formal pilot]

Get S23 ultra

[manic juniper]

It will become more and more annoying and difficult to do, and having to root a phone just for unsigned APKs is overkill

Plus you lose access to banking apps and more

[high raven]

I wouldn't recommend buying an expensive TV if you don't actually watch TV

My TV and the PS5 are just there to collect dust

[thorny steeple]

i already getting an iphone

[thorny steeple]

50,000 ruppe is a reasonable price for tv india

[manic juniper]

It'll get to the point where phones will need to be cracked just like a console, and that's not good

[thorny steeple]

i dont have space for pc

[formal pilot]

Investing in a good projector and mediocre tv would be a better idea

[high raven]

That's around $500 right?

[manic juniper]

Can someone explain? I'm not American

[thorny steeple]

623 dollars

[high raven]

No that's half a lakh, should be 600

[formal pilot]

A laptop is enough to watch movies for 2 person

[high raven]

Close

[thorny steeple]

charlie kirk reborn

[thorny steeple]

thats 55,000

my last tv was 55,000

[summer sphinx]

I want buyers

[thorny steeple]

i brough that in 2015 or 2016 and using it till now

fuck u samsung

[high raven]

This close to Ramadan Carpe?

[summer sphinx]

Who wants to send me some fucking money

[formal pilot]

Get chinese TVs

[feral river]

623 USD for a tv that's nothing

[thorny steeple]

hell naw

[thorny steeple]

GOING FOR LG THATS SOUHT KOREAN

[summer sphinx]

Gotta grind yk

[turbid dome]

That guy tried to assassinate a ton of Minnesota democratic lawmakers, nightmare on elm street is a horror movie, one of the democratic lawmakers on his list was Tim Walz

[formal pilot]

I regret getting bravia, for the same price i could have got chad chinese tv

[thorny steeple]

ok elon musk

[thorny steeple]

oh

those two dems in minnesota?

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

fuck that guy

[formal pilot]

Xiaomi, one plus, motorola might be more affordable

[thorny steeple]

i aint trying out new

[high raven]

Someone was making fun of ayurveda a few days ago and you immediately sprung to mind

[severe burrow]

😀

[turbid dome]

It is funny

[thorny steeple]

the first tv was best in sound and visual it was lg, it worked fine, then we brough samsung and it fucked up

going for LG again

[manic juniper]

Is the post controversial? What else is there that I'm not getting

[formal pilot]

Bravia gang

[summer sphinx]

People learn from experience

[manic juniper]

Is it because he made a joke?

[summer sphinx]

Man I gotta make sum fucking money

[turbid dome]

Idk, Mike Lee is a representative

[thorny steeple]

aint no way buying an sony

[summer sphinx]

And fuck my beard and trimmer

[turbid dome]

Sorry Senator

[thorny steeple]

what

[summer sphinx]

Fkahh beard and trimmer

[thorny steeple]

i have a question

[summer sphinx]

I just botched myself

[turbid dome]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/republican-senator-mike-lee-kirk-shooting-melissa-hortman

[thorny steeple]

do you understand the distinction?

[turbid dome]

@manic juniper

[manic juniper]

Lol he could've done so with an alt account

[high raven]

When will you leave India?

[turbid dome]

Yeah but he has to be insane because everything is a political opportunity to blame the left

[thorny steeple]

or he could just not done it

[turbid dome]

In American politics there is no penalty for being insane, it is good to be as insane as you can be

[manic juniper]

Yes they are trying hard to blame the democrat voter base as well or so it seems

Nothing will change anyway

[turbid dome]

Unless it’s for the worst of course

[fresh flower]

Wyd here

Go back to general

[formal pilot]

Wut

[thorny steeple]

@formal pilot

[formal pilot]

Sure

[thorny steeple]

so do you wanna go wiht a test?

[formal pilot]

What do you mean by that

[thorny steeple]

to know that u uunderstand and not just saying sure

[formal pilot]

What's wiht

[thorny steeple]

lest go wiht unicorns as a example

do you believe in unicorns?

just answer in simplicity

cus im leading to smth

[plain ruin]

Don't need to give him the questionnaire, he doesn't even want to get a passport

[formal pilot]

I have insufficient evidence to believe that they exists, because it's scientifically not plausible

An animal with high bone density as a horse cannot fly easily

[manic juniper]

Unicorns don't necessarily fly

That's Pegasus bro

[formal pilot]

My unicorn is different, it's better

[plain ruin]

Something in the way...

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-sootymcfarlane-something-in-the-way-the-batman-gif-25776851

[fresh flower]

Dismiss all evidence for a God
"I want proof"
Creation of the universe is a theory as well
"Their proof is correct"

[manic juniper]

Pegasus has maniraptosaurian wings for some reasons

[fresh flower]

Is atheism just a circlejrk of who can link the most wiki articles

[thorny steeple]

Are you saying scientifically it's not possible for a unicorn to fly? and thats the evidence for them to not exist?

[formal pilot]

Must be Anabolic steroids

Always in the whey

[manic juniper]

The bone density of bats is lower than that of birds, it's just that bats have bone marrow unlike most bird bones

[fresh flower]

If there is a God I hope he curses you for eternity for adding IT here

[feral river]

I see people who believe in God such thing which does not exist would assume other people who don't believe it as atheists

[formal pilot]

I'm saying it's not plausible based on our current understanding of science that a horse like animal can fly

[manic juniper]

The difference has to with the lack of marrow and the air sacs the birds have to lower their overall density closer to that of the air, kinda like fishes with their nictitating membrane

[formal pilot]

Because of heavy bones

[thorny steeple]

yeah your methodlogy is wrong

[feral river]

actually atheism was still a religion, but people who are unaffilated was out of this cycle of madness

[thorny steeple]

this is arguemnt from ignorance fallacy

[fresh flower]

My biggest issue with atheism is the inconsistency

[summer sphinx]

I can't be saved..

[summer sphinx]

I'm serious rn

[formal pilot]

Sure buddy

[feral river]

you don't need any inconsistency in any religion

[thorny steeple]

do you know bumble bee?

[summer sphinx]

Get me sum online job bro

[feral river]

they are all created by human in certain period

[manic juniper]

Not that, it's a joke

[summer sphinx]

I gotta start selling my socks or sum

[fresh flower]

God is metaphysical
"Show me empirical evidence"
Dark matter isn't observable
"Omg it makes up most of the universe bro"

[manic juniper]

We know how bumblebees can fly, they beat their wings faster than other bees

[thorny steeple]

im leadin to something

[feral river]

it's just a special type of ideology as same as when we talking about economics we would say socialism, communism, capitalism

[manic juniper]

It wasn't even a mystery

[fresh flower]

Neither do you in atheism

[formal pilot]

Stop believing in reels which says it's impossible to explain how a bumblebee can fly

[feral river]

but for the view of the world we used to call it religion

[formal pilot]

It's well known shid

[manic juniper]

Show metaphysical evidence

[formal pilot]

Wait wait, bats have lower bone density than birds?

[manic juniper]

Yes, birds actually have the densest bones unless you include the empty air in them, only then their density is the lowest because they lack marrow in most of them or all

[summer sphinx]

Why u don't buy me no gift bro

[feral river]

I'm not an atheist, I'm unaffiliated

[fresh flower]

Send feet in dm

[feral river]

I don't believe in anything with 100% certainty

[summer sphinx]

Aight bet

[fresh flower]

You too Minecraft

[manic juniper]

Birds made up for their lack of marrow by increasing the density of the bone itself

[feral river]

I only observe what seems to be logical and useful which we would have an actual use on this one

including the view of the world

[manic juniper]

Classic reptile move, take a good design and make it better

[feral river]

it's not hard to imagine two turtles on the shit ground would view the piss by the human as the god's holy water

[manic juniper]

This is why reptiles are inherently superior

[manic juniper]

Why not if they can filter it and store it in the bladder for months

[dapper laurel]

Believing in a God can limit your freedoms btw

[feral river]

don't you realize believe in God does not exist in 100% certainty would also limit your freedom ?

freedom could never be absolute

[fresh flower]

Bro actually sent feet pics 💀💀💀💀

[feral river]

freedom bascially means you have the most leverage to switch sides or adjust the threshold

[formal pilot]

Yes, but overall pneumatic bones must be lighter than average bones with bone marrow

[dapper laurel]

Not only that

[formal pilot]

[summer sphinx]

Rate it bro

[manic juniper]

They increased density to make up for the lack of marrow, since they can hardly heal if they break

They will shatter

[fresh flower]

Ngl more pale than what I assumed

[summer sphinx]

Type shi

[fresh flower]

I thought you'd have darker feet because you're a (redacted)

[summer sphinx]

@plain ruin

[fresh flower]

Your turn @plain ruin

[formal pilot]

Where does the blood is formed in birds 💀

[thorny steeple]

bumblebee has a bigger body then its wings but they fly

Are you saying it's biologically impossible for a unicorn to fly?

[thorny steeple]

hi

[fresh flower]

"Matt" are you an atheist

[thorny steeple]

guys who's Muslim here?

ignorance is here that bc science cant explain it it doesn't exist

[thorny steeple]

it's very obvious he is

[fresh flower]

@severe burrow

[thorny steeple]

why would u say that

[feral river]

science could explain it exists

[slender coral]

Theists think if science can't explain it then it exists lol

[fresh flower]

It's a question, I forgot the question mark

[thorny steeple]

I gotta a heated question for em

[thorny steeple]

sure give me the sources

[fresh flower]

He is Shia btw

[feral river]

you need to learn a little bit neurology and probability

[thorny steeple]

if thats the case then why are the theist? science cant proof god

[thorny steeple]

oh no haha the question will be even more heated 😭😭

[manic juniper]

They still have it but it's not distributed in all bones, ratites have more because they don't care about flight

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers–Briggs_Type_Indicator

[fresh flower]

Ask it bro I'm curious

[formal pilot]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[feral river]

you would find some personality that naturally possess the higher chance of being ignorance

[thorny steeple]

I thought that was gen z crap

science cant say it cus they dont have the body of unicorns do examine before making a claim on it

[fresh flower]

Doesn't believe Palestine exists
Believes in MBTI

[feral river]

and by probability therefore it exists

[formal pilot]

Matt you aren't my targeted audience for a discussion 😭

[thorny steeple]

i dont think they are accurate

[formal pilot]

Please let me breathe

[thorny steeple]

u could just answer it, so i could explain the flaw with the methodolgy

[feral river]

it was a scientific indicator idk if you feel their test is wrong or something that's none of my business

[thorny steeple]

whhhattt doesn't believe that Palestine exists

[feral river]

but by practical definition, they are very scientific

[formal pilot]

I already answered you

[brazen agate]

Science can't prove ball lightning yet does that mean it doesn't exist?

[feral river]

you can still question their availability of the test they made to test out your personality which makes 100% sense

you can't test one's personality by a single test

[fresh flower]

Welcome to #🧠｜serious-chat 😭

[feral river]

but the personality nature definition itself was included in this indicator

[formal pilot]

I wonder where blood is formed in an animal with open circulation

[plain ruin]

Hi

[feral river]

it's like you could define rich and poor by productivity, but you can't calculate the productivity very precisely

[thorny steeple]

idk what that is but neither science can prove it, nor it can disprove, cus in both it would require proof to say it does or it doesnt

but u dont have a way to examine it in the first place

[plain ruin]

So many pings...

[formal pilot]

The sheep

[fresh flower]

Answer carpe

[brazen agate]

science took 100 years to prove gravitational waves and it was proven in 2015 does it mean it didn't exist before 2015?

[feral river]

I don't feel like it's hard to understand for you @fresh flower

[feral river]

you are free to not to believe in science, nobody force you to do that

[thorny steeple]

oh no I meet Palestine people here in my f country getting hospitalised for insane injuries and here someone says the country doesn't exist

[plain ruin]

Sorry
Dont speak to server ruiners...

[thorny steeple]

well theres is a third postion which is called rejection of claim until sufficient evidence is provided

[feral river]

but you pay the consequences of question the science itself

[fresh flower]

It's pseudoscience. It's insane to be an atheist and demand science then believe in a pseudoscientific self-reported personality test

[plain ruin]

I DIDNT DO IT IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE

[manic juniper]

They don't have blood, isn't that unique to vertebrates. Insects have haemolymph, mollusks have different types of "blood"-like liquids

[feral river]

that consequence was very hard, and it's proven by history

[distant osprey]

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[fresh flower]

Was it him

[plain ruin]

Idk bro...

[thorny steeple]

what i believe in scientific methodology

the thing ur saying is not what science shows

[plain ruin]

May have been huzzain

[feral river]

find one that is not pseudoscience before you question it

and by the way what's the reason you would think it's a pseudoscience

you still need prove its inavailability

[thorny steeple]

I'm in the same mood

[fresh flower]

Random first article, you'll find many many more

[feral river]

like if you would say they are not so wide to include every personality or they are not scientifically proven

[thorny steeple]

That's not even in the ballpark of what I said, gravity had always existed, but believing in it when enough evidence has demonstrated it would scientifically logical to belive

agreed it's bullshit

[feral river]

I got INTJ, which stands for Introverted, iNtuitive, Thinking, and Judging dude that's so subjective

[fresh flower]

Not scientifically proven = pseudoscience

[thorny steeple]

I remember doing it when I was 13

[brazen agate]

could u explain the case with plate tectonics where the geologists dismissed it for decades until they found evidence in mid 1960s?

[fresh flower]

Because you answered the questions yourself 😭

[feral river]

but how I'm saying the indicator itself was scientifically proven but not the test

[thorny steeple]

evidence proved them wrong

[brazen agate]

It was proven right tho

[feral river]

dude, you got a test yourself and you would question the test is invaild that make sense I never say that was scientific

[fresh flower]

What you're doing is the equivalent of a prophet saying he saw God

[feral river]

I was saying the indicator itself was scienfitic

did you just try understand what I'm saying ?

[thorny steeple]

yes thats what im saying they were right afterthe evidence is enough to warrent believe

[fresh flower]

It's not😭

[feral river]

if you took a random test or their official test which is not scientific I don't care if the test result was invaild because it make sense if you think it's invaild, and it's not scientifically proven

[fresh flower]

Hence why it's pseudoscience

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s BS, I got INTP-T

[feral river]

but for the indicator, may I ask, can you find another personality indicator which is more scientific than this one ?

[feral river]

their test is trash

but I'm saying the indicator

[thorny steeple]

you can take some taste based on recommended by psychologists

[fresh flower]

OCEAN

[feral river]

I'm not saying the fucking test or your subjective feeling which both could be invaild

[feral river]

how does that psychologists could convince you by their word ?

are you trying to listen some word to random people which believes they are scientific ?

[fresh flower]

I answered it twice, the INDICATOR is pseudoscience

[feral river]

OCEAN is not pseudoscience ?

[thorny steeple]

cus they study the brain and their behaviour

personality is exactly that

[fresh flower]

No, OCEAN is scientific

[brazen agate]

I understand withholding belief until evidence shows up. But claiming certainty that God doesn’t exist is itself a claim.
What evidence convinces you that non existence is certain?

[thorny steeple]

Big Five test is most accurate by them

[feral river]

newton also study a lot about physics but he didn't create general relativity which overthrow some of his idea

how could you be so certain about one guy's idea by what they have studied so long which is 100% scientific ?

[thorny steeple]

im not saying god doesnt exist AND im unconvinced any god exist

do you get the distinction?

[feral river]

why wouldn't any of you question if it's vaild or not ?

[high raven]

I know little to nothing about online jobs

[feral river]

I mean if you are just to try an ideology or religion without any analysis which makes perfect sense because that's what the 99% of people would do

[thorny steeple]

you trust the consensus of their believe with amount of hard evidence they provide

[brazen agate]

That's your personal belief tho

[thorny steeple]

thats a question

read again

[feral river]

at least that provides some availability but it doesn't mean their word is 100% truth

if I would say in ancient era that should be pray for God to cure your damage on your leg by leaking out of the blood which contains the poison, would you believe that's the truth so far because you don't have any choice ?

even if I remember the Catherine II of Russia ever done such thing and she survived in that situation which provides a little bit availability of this could work fight against a disease

[thorny steeple]

correct im not posing they post absolute certainty on it

you can never be abosolute certain about anything in life

but you dont need absolute certainty you need closest to 100% to form a robust based on hard evidence of concensus of scientist

[brazen agate]

I get that you’re unconvinced but if you’re not claiming God is impossible, doesn’t that mean it’s at least logically possible that God exists?

[thorny steeple]

no, god can be possible

but until evidence arrives, im gonna halt my belief on them on basis of lack of evidence

[feral river]

I mean there's no such absolute thing exists as scientifical concept because the science was never about what you believed for, the science was about it's able to vaildate yourself under direct observation

[thorny steeple]

correct

[feral river]

if a science that makes you believe it, it's not science, it's religion which was called science

[limber dagger]

Where are you from

[feral river]

the science would never enforce anyone to believe it

that's what I'm trying say, the core of science was always to question, to validate, rather than believe it

[brazen agate]

it's your personal belief I can't change your mind

[feral river]

that's the most fundamental difference between religion

[thorny steeple]

science is a methodology and it gives you more then just claims, it gives you evidence and warrants your trust of confidence in that, on basis of amount of evidence, which is the most logical stance

[feral river]

what religion really enforce was the belief, once you have believed it, you won't question it's availability, you fall into a cult which the authority would use to achieve their interest

[thorny steeple]

yea

no

sorry, its a rejection of claim

im not believing in anything

im not posing a world wihtout god

[brazen agate]

We're still an under developed civilization so yk

[feral river]

I'm just giving you a very simple example of this, I'm very crystal clear about how these two are so different

[thorny steeple]

neither am i posing a world with a god

[limber dagger]

After the imposition of tariffs on China, Arab countries' exports to America increased, especially from Egypt, Morocco and Algeria

[thorny steeple]

im saying im gonna warrent my belief based on lack of evidence

[feral river]

I'm not saying I'm fighting against the religion, which that could be a tool for me to control people if I was in power

[summer sphinx]

man..

[feral river]

now I'm not so I would suck it up very naturally

[thorny steeple]

so do you wanna check if you actually understand?

like a simple test?

[brazen agate]

i mean we're still an under developed civilization we can't interpret everything yet

[feral river]

I don't feel like if a test would be questioned by you have to post it first

[thorny steeple]

no like im gonna ask few series of question

it wil take 1 minute

[feral river]

to be simple that's the third world, no offense

[thorny steeple]

for example lets take flying elephants

do you believe in flying elephants?

answer in simple half sentence cus im leading to next question

[feral river]

under a viable physical condition an elephant could fly

[thorny steeple]

u fucked up

[brazen agate]

Yes

[feral river]

you just need some fuels

[thorny steeple]

u fucked up in the first question

[feral river]

lmao

[thorny steeple]

why is so hard

again

[feral river]

why you think an elephant can't fly ?

[brazen agate]

they lack aerodynamics weight and muscle power

[feral river]

give a reason they can't fly in any condition

[thorny steeple]

do you believe in flying elephants?

lets do it again

[feral river]

an elephant could fly under viable physical condition

[thorny steeple]

and think about it before answer

imma cry

[brazen agate]

it can tho

[thorny steeple]

i feel like a teacher whos explaining maths

[thorny steeple]

ok fine

[feral river]

you can even fly under viable physical condition, but you don't have such robust muscle I believe

[thorny steeple]

is this a hypothetical?

[feral river]

maybe in the future we could change one's DNA to make it able to fly

[thorny steeple]

im talking like could they fly based on their ear flapping

[brazen agate]

Hell n

explain your question kind sir

[feral river]

fly basically means floading in the air, which could be achieved by changing few variables

like at space where there's no gravitation you are flying

[brazen agate]

all u need is aerodynamics right weight and muscle power

[thorny steeple]

no my variables in the world is bound by reality

can they fly yes or no?

or idk

[feral river]

absolutely yes in certain condition

[brazen agate]

in reality they can fly but under a certain condition

a very specific condition

[thorny steeple]

give me evidence of flying elephants

[brazen agate]

bro are you mentally challenged

[thorny steeple]

im trying to explain epistemology

[mystic bay]

Dumbo can fly

Checkmate

[thorny steeple]

evidence

[mystic bay]

Just watched the film

[thorny steeple]

film is a cartoon based on fiction

[feral river]

it's like give me evidence of the God does not eixst

which is technically invaild

[thorny steeple]

exactly

[mystic bay]

It's based on a true story

[thorny steeple]

ur getting it

[mystic bay]

It's a documentary

[feral river]

that's invaild

[thorny steeple]

finally we are making progress

[feral river]

give me the evidence I ain't your father

same thing

[thorny steeple]

so you should have sad, idk if flying elephanst could fry

thats the reasonable position

[feral river]

idk if I'm your dad

[brazen agate]

"give me the evidence you're my father DNA doesn't matter"

[feral river]

that's a very resonable position at your logic

[brazen agate]

we're trying to tell you that under the correct condition anything can fly

u have to modify their body

it's unachievable by our science yet

but it can be done with more advanced technology

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-12993999557818669691

[feral river]

no he's just trying to circle around the typical philosophy of question one's inexistence

[thorny steeple]

cus to say they fly u have to give evidence and to say they dont fly u have to give evidence of them not flying but then u have to anazlye a flying elephants which u dont have

eventually ur postion would be idk

[feral river]

then in that case I would respond the same way back to him

[brazen agate]

have u ever heard about the laws of aerodynamics

[feral river]

you didn't provide any evidence of I'm not dad therefore I'm your dad ?

[high raven]

Are you just explaining what an agnostic stance is

[thorny steeple]

i can prove that with evidence, dna

theres no evidence for flying elephanst

the evidence is what makes the huge leap

[feral river]

oh what's that

what's that DNA

how do you know your DNA wasn't saying I was not your dad

[manic juniper]

No because it could be a case of convergent evolution

[thorny steeple]

bruh go read null hypothesis

its so annoying

to explain u

[manic juniper]

Or a very coincidentally lucky horizontal gene transfer

[thorny steeple]

im not talking hypothetically

in reality bound by laws

[feral river]

yeah but if you seek for evidence to prove one's inexistence by the way of you can't find one right now, you could ignore its existence

[brazen agate]

Evidence isn't always direct

[manic juniper]

??? Didn't you ask about flying elephants

[feral river]

like if you would say a flying elephant does not exist because you never observe one, that make sense, but it doesn't mean it can't be exist technically

[thorny steeple]

yea

[brazen agate]

he doesn't even know what he's talking about icl

[thorny steeple]

yes but in reality

[feral river]

and in reality it's very viable to fly an elephant

[brazen agate]

in reality it can fly but not At This Moment

[manic juniper]

In reality there is no such thing known to us as flying elephant

[thorny steeple]

wtf does this mean

[high raven]

What if they flapped their ears really fast

[brazen agate]

It won't work

[manic juniper]

If you talk hypothetically we may find evidence or a living specimen. Just as hypothetically your DNA may not prove that your father is your biological father

[feral river]

you can't prove how an elephant is so unique to other species that used to be so different at carrying on the space or at the air

[brazen agate]

they need very specific modifications to their body

[high raven]

#Bees are not real

[manic juniper]

Mammoths were scammed

[brazen agate]

elephant is nowhere near the aerodynamics law

[thorny steeple]

so are you saying they dont exist?

[manic juniper]

"Known to us"

[feral river]

which means what you are trying to prove a thing that has different weight and the space of containing this which is incapability to carry on

[thorny steeple]

ur saying u dont know?

[feral river]

but in reality it's very practical you could carry it on the space or air

[brazen agate]

wha

[manic juniper]

Yes but I doubt it is possible, mammals are limited

[brazen agate]

so india's laws are all toilet papers?

[thorny steeple]

thank you, you do get epistemology

[feral river]

LRWEITP

[thorny steeple]

finally

it was so hard for them to understand

except u

[manic juniper]

We have flying squirrels but they're unable to fly

[brazen agate]

You have to understand that it is possible but not naturally

[manic juniper]

It is naturally possible

[feral river]

I need a pic about this line

[brazen agate]

what is naturally possible?
Flying elephant?

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[thorny steeple]

im not fucking talking about possiblity but on evidence

[manic juniper]

Over millions of years elephants could develop flight

[thorny steeple]

tf

[brazen agate]

is it possible rn?

[manic juniper]

They wouldn't look like elephants at all

[thorny steeple]

then they are not flying elephants

[brazen agate]

how could u get evidence on some topic that is untouched and completely made up

[thorny steeple]

you cant, so ur position becomes "i dont know"

[manic juniper]

According to cladistics they'd be

[brazen agate]

so without your evidence, your position also becomes "I don't know"

[manic juniper]

As in going that path? Difficult to predict

[thorny steeple]

exactly

what what im saying

for so long

[brazen agate]

-10/10 explainer

[thorny steeple]

until the evidence is presented u withhold the belief

[brazen agate]

but it is possible only if it is modified to thaf position

[thorny steeple]

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology/

here go read

[thorny steeple]

thats logically flawed

[brazen agate]

how's that

i mean if it's actually modified to that position it can no longer be called an elephant

[thorny steeple]

guys.... you're still at the same topic?

[thorny steeple]

u dont start by warrenting belief, and then look for evidence

[manic juniper]

Only colloquially

[thorny steeple]

its opposite

[manic juniper]

Cladistically it's an elephant

Even if one day it evolved to look like a crowbar it'd still be an elephant

[thorny steeple]

do yall belief in ghost?

[thorny steeple]

are you mocking matt or you're an atheist?

[thorny steeple]

I don't

[thorny steeple]

based on what?

[thorny steeple]

both

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

but i also his arguments

[thorny steeple]

what warrents ur belief on ghost?

[thorny steeple]

based on that there isn't a good evidence for their existence

[thorny steeple]

ur correct ding ding ding

[manic juniper]

A group of ghosts spoke to me while I was awake

[brazen agate]

because it doesn't have a physical body

[thorny steeple]

thats another claim

with another burden of proof

[brazen agate]

if something physically doesn't exist it becomes really hard to prove

just like 4d objects

[thorny steeple]

what is that called?

[manic juniper]

Revelation or vision

[thorny steeple]

4d is provable