🧠｜serious-chat

[lime cobalt]

|| Lavender Baka ||

|| Lavender Bakka ||

nice

[reef dove]

@thorny steeple

[slender coral]

Combat footage sub-reddit is crazy

[thorny steeple]

What does that mean

[slender coral]

And scary. They say you may do everything right and still get killed.

[reef dove]

mean|| گێل ||

[thorny steeple]

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[reef dove]

|| وەلاهـ ||

[thorny steeple]

|| bakka is u ||

[thorny steeple]

|| دەوەرە چاکە بکە ||

[lime cobalt]

Bakka means cute

Yes im cute

[thorny steeple]

In Japanese it’s mean idiot

[molten dagger]

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[reef dove]

|| ئەوجارەش لوبەر من لێی مەدە 😂😂 ||

[molten dagger]

dude wtf mr bean as monalisa

[thorny steeple]

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[thorny steeple]

|| bakka ||

[reef dove]

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[slender coral]

I watched a video before on there of a Hamas member on 7th October attack. The video was from his POV. He was standing in a very open area, clumsily, and naturally got shot, he collapsed on the ground. Here's the haunting part: he realized that he was about to get killed if he stayed where he was so he rapidly tried to crawl to safety while screaming, but the IDF soldier who shot him from a distance finished him off from a distance. Not an example of someone doing everything right, but it's just one disturbing thing I saw there.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-mechanism-gun-meme-ak-47-ak-47-gun-how-does-an-ak-47-work-gif-15027477959625649464

[reef dove]

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[thorny steeple]

Damn it’s my knife

[reef dove]

its not knife

[thorny steeple]

Sword

[reef dove]

katana

[thorny steeple]

katana wins flawless victory

[reef dove]

wrong 😑

kitana wins flawless victory

[dire wing]

literally a rebellion going in my neighbouring country!!!

[tender vessel]

Where do you live?

[twilit holly]

Idk why it makes me feel something ahshs

Evolution

[formal pilot]

Well yes, on technicalities their specialness was revoked when they started disobeying prophets

What's the command for Qur'an bot

[dire wing]

NE india

[lime cobalt]

Nepal ?? i saw it in a video

crazy

the members of parliament escaped through the river

[formal pilot]

Great region, how are things ova there?

There has been a constant conflict among tribes

[lime cobalt]

Parliament house ?

[severe burrow]

Yes, it was very old, built in 19th century

They burned every governmental building, excluding hospitals and banks

They destroyed prisons and criminals escaped

[lime cobalt]

I think that’s the peak of anger, all this time they could only hold it in, maybe this time it can no longer be tolerated, but what caused it?

[severe burrow]

Corruption

[lime cobalt]

I only heard about a parliament member’s child flexing.

[severe burrow]

They were tryna ban social media

[severe burrow]

Most of them got beaten and their houses got burned, some escaped in Dubai

Something like a civil war, there was no one to stop them..

[lime cobalt]

I saw police do nothing , why

[formal pilot]

Because they're morals

[lime cobalt]

What do u mean moral ?

[severe burrow]

Oh they killed almost 30 youths. But they cant keep killing because there were protests every where, not possible to stop them, a lot of protests, the more they would kill the more angry protests they had to face

[formal pilot]

It's a joke based on serious chat

[lime cobalt]

[lime cobalt]

Yeah, but I don’t see the police guarding the parliament building or officials’ houses.

[severe burrow]

They were first guarding it, but they stopped

It's not possible to stop them when the whole population is against the goverment

[dire wing]

yes in a state

[lime cobalt]

Ah okey, what about military ?

[dire wing]

rest of the region is as pretty as heaven but as good as rest of the india too

[severe burrow]

They were with the citizens

[neon sierra]

@manic juniper have u seen the video of the girl in the buss

[lime cobalt]

Nice, What are the youths demanding? Or do they want to overthrow the government?

[severe burrow]

They were demanding to over throw the corrupt Government

[shell hemlock]

I also want to know what you are talking about

[lime cobalt]

I think they need to reform the party system, because all members of parliament come from parties, the root of the problem lies in the parties, they are merely products of the parties.

[severe burrow]

Right

[hot bison]

It's a viral video of a black person killing a Ukrainian woman who was using public transport. The video promotes hate but the truth is that its the problem of their legal system that allows criminal or insane people (possibly in his case as a medical insanity) released to endanger the public.

[manic juniper]

Which one

[shell hemlock]

Oh ok I’ve seen this one

[formal pilot]

NE seems to be more liberal and open for different ideas, unlike the north

[neon sierra]

both of u will see it one day anyway @shell hemlock

[manic juniper]

Explain which video

Do you mean the train one?

If yes, I have seen it already

[neon sierra]

I think it was a buss tho

That Ukrainian girl video

[manic juniper]

It's a light rail so a train pretty much

Yes I have seen it, pretty bad

[neon sierra]

i am traumatised by it

[manic juniper]

It's why I always bring a knife or multiple with me at all times

You can't trust what the other people are about to do

[formal pilot]

Aug 2014, he assaulted a man and robbed him of his phone with a Gun.

He served 5 years and got out in 2020. In 2022, he was arrested for assaulting a woman, but no charges were filed.

He also had few more criminal records before aug 2014

[manic juniper]

I'm surprised that no one did anything, not even the people nearby

[formal pilot]

I haven't seen the entire video, if it was multiple stabs, it's shameful that no one intervened

[neon sierra]

it was one

she was stunned

she held her mouth so that she can cry silently

[formal pilot]

I'm glad I didn't watch it

[manic juniper]

Some people saw the trail of blood on the ground and they did nothing

[neon sierra]

No one moved an inch

only one

[neon sierra]

multiple videos appeared on my foryoupage

idk what to say

it was disturbing to see her reaction like that

i didnt see the whole video

[formal pilot]

Sometimes mob justice is the way

[neon sierra]

but she collapsed 20 seconds after i think

no one tried to help her, they could have prevented her from spilling more blood

It was like she was all alone in the train

[formal pilot]

We've lost another innocent person by the hand to criminals

[formal pilot]

They could have at least tried to save her

[neon sierra]

there is nothing that can justify those actions of that person

[neon sierra]

no one even freaked out except one

[formal pilot]

He already had serious criminal records

She would've been alive if the administration was optimal enough

[manic juniper]

She would've been alive if she wasn't a refugee to be honest

[formal pilot]

Everyone is a refugee

[manic juniper]

If everyone is something then no one is

[shell hemlock]

I have seen it, it’s viral

Poor girl, she was just minding her own business

[formal pilot]

Imagine leaving behind your homeland in search of safety and a brighter future your heart full of hope, your eyes set on new beginnings only for it all to vanish in an instant

[neon sierra]

i am sorry but she got killed for being white

[shell hemlock]

Was it really political or was it just because he’s insane

[neon sierra]

one factor leads to another factor

[neon sierra]

He has to be insane

[formal pilot]

I don't know about that

[neon sierra]

But he did scream twice i killed the white girl according to those who watched the video

Some even claim she said the N word, I didnt watch the video with sound on

of what i saw was that she just went sitting minding her own business so idk

[manic juniper]

Those could be rumours, honestly I don't trust redditors or commenters

[neon sierra]

she was literally bleeding people didnt move an inch

[neon sierra]

Agreed, till I hear with my own ears tho

I wouldn’t dare to watch the video

[shell hemlock]

I think it was the fault of the system

Or I mean I believe it was the fault of the system

[manic juniper]

Many people are complicit in her death, not just the guy holding the knife

[shell hemlock]

Since I am reading the article rn and apparently he has a history of being behind bars

“Brown had been diagnosed with schizophrenia and suffered hallucinations and paranoia, his sister said.”

[prisma cipher]

Imagine staying behind friends and family and run from them. It what I imagine. What you imagine is distorted bulshiet that have nothing to reality. Like little girls story about the princess.

But I feel sorry for the girl no one to deserve that, we should be more aware about stuff that around us

[formal pilot]

That person who killed her already had multiple serious criminal records

[shell hemlock]

I believe she was just an unfortunate victim like, wrong place wrong time

[prisma cipher]

I recently saw a video where a man was sitting on a bench and using like example the people that passing by. he was telling how easy it is to stab them with a knife, especially those, who wear a hood and headphones, so I advise you to pay more attention to what surrounds you, it can save your life.

Lmao I was trying to find that video, but I found Ukrainian nazi, by accident

Check this

https://youtube.com/shorts/9DXXNH2TYXo?si=uVwxQvjpHkT-lgy3

It their hero

Watch his left hand closely

[tulip zenith]

💀

[prisma cipher]

Did you see that

[lime cobalt]

What amazes me is why the society is so cold hearted, as if nothing ever happened. I just found the video on x

They are not human fr

[uncut tiger]

🏳️‍🌈

[prisma cipher]

I don't see the video and don't want to see, but if they reacted it will be more dead. Like I understand he kill her quickly, there is nothing anyone can do, and best way scenario don't interfere. Also they might not understand what happened

[uncut tiger]

[outer sage]

It's serious chat

[lime cobalt]

Dude i saw your name ask a gay a while ago

[uncut tiger]

You were probably hallucinating

[lime cobalt]

Absolutelt not

[lime cobalt]

No dude the killer already gone, but the people around still act like nothing happen

[cursive bobcat]

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@thorny steeple slapped @lime cobalt

[lime cobalt]

Whatt

*slapp @thorny steeple

*slap @thorny steeple

[tough trail]

caffeinecoder21 slaps lavender091267 >:0

Slap number 1

[lime cobalt]

Yesssss

@thorny steeple where are uuuuuu ?

[thorny steeple]

I’m here bakka

[cursive bobcat]

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@lime cobalt has been kidnapped by @thorny steeple for 1 hour

[lime cobalt]

Told u , bakka means cute

[thorny steeple]

U can’t fool me

[cursive bobcat]

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@thorny steeple slapped @lime cobalt

[crystal kayak]

The woman that got stabbed in the neck or

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[crystal kayak]

I feel for her sad way to go tbh I do understand the people that didn't help but at the same time someone is flipping dying

Plus people are trying to turn this into some race thing

[neon sierra]

I keep seeing the video

my anxiety is getting worse

[prisma cipher]

That is why I don't watch video like that. For keeping my mentality safe.

[crystal kayak]

That is the culture of the USA everyone keep to themselves

[prisma cipher]

There is just bad people in this world and we should be aware.

[neon sierra]

Same but media forced us to nowadays watch anything

[lime cobalt]

Crimes can be committed by sane people with malicious intent, but what makes this case terrifying is that the person had a mental problems.

[prisma cipher]

one day my friend complained to me that in the evening a strange girl did not want to go into the same elevator with him and asked him to go wait for another one. he was offended by this, but I think it is completely normal to ask for such a thing, this is what I told my friend. and he eventually agreed, because it can be dangerous for her.

[lime cobalt]

Stop watching it dude

[hot bison]

So?

What is your point?

[tulip dagger]

@supple path next time u abuse your perms for the channel if u mute me again for no reason while im talking ill report you also u muted me in christian chat for life wtf?

[crystal kayak]

The man was suppose to be jailed he has a history of violence that was the point

[manic juniper]

Did you ever experience anything like that

[supple path]

open a ticket salame, i don't even know u

[manic juniper]

I recall when it was 2011 and they used to show people getting beheaded by terrorists on TV news

Why did they even do this, families with children watch the news

[tulip dagger]

you're the one who muted me lmfao u will know what u did when i open the ticket

you're not above anyone to use your powers and saying reason: yapping tf is this

[supple path]

open a ticket with proof since you are so certain

[lime cobalt]

Did they censor the video?

[manic juniper]

Nope, they used to show the full uncensored videos

[lime cobalt]

Maybe on the dark web, but would official media really do that?

If gore content from the dark web spreads freely, I can’t imagine what would happen.

[spice bobcat]

Did they just kill Charlie kirk

???

[lime cobalt]

Lol no

Why ? U hate him ?

[spice bobcat]

Um he's dead

Like he got shot

[lime cobalt]

Seriously ?

[spice bobcat]

Yeah I just saw the video

It's bad

Yeah he just got shot damn 💔

Why they gotta do that

[spice bobcat]

I didn't like him but

That's terrible bruv

[lime cobalt]

Did he really die ? I read they got him to the hospital but not die

Yeah dude thats bad

[spice bobcat]

Dude it was a straight shot to the neck

He's not making it out alive

[manic juniper]

They did

[lime cobalt]

Yeah i just saw the video, crazy

To much blood

straight to the neck

[hot bison]

Certainly.

[hot bison]

If he dies only the Jewish God can save him from doom.

[slender coral]

Hey

How are you doing?

[lime cobalt]

If charlie kirk got shot, mr trump is not save

[hot bison]

So he died?

[lime cobalt]

The land of freedom of speech ??? In your dream

[lime cobalt]

Im not sure

But its pretty bad, stright to the neck

Its fatal

[manic juniper]

Hopefully Trump doesn't get shot on the neck as well and no one learns that a shot to the neck is fatal and could potentially kill an unwanted political figure

[slender coral]

Thing is, killing people, especially political figures, turn them to myrters. That boosts the visibility of their cause and its support.

[manic juniper]

It might, but it's rarely the case and I can't think of any case where it led to such consequences or made them visible

[hot bison]

Not really.

[manic juniper]

Plus people forget everything quickly and no one cares about an event after a short time, they'd forget even if it happened to Trump. Give it few months

[slender coral]

Didn't Martin Luther King assassination boost the support for the civil rights movement in the US?

[manic juniper]

This was long ago but he wasn't the president or anything

Charlie Kirk's death wouldn't change much

[lime cobalt]

Even a president ? I dont think so its not afganistan

[manic juniper]

He's not the worst right winger out there either, right wingers already replaced him with worse figures like Nick Fuentes

[slender coral]

Also, I have some examples from my region. You have AbuAzizi, the young Tunisian man who killed himself and was the spark of the Arab spring, the guy didn't even need to get killed he just killed himself and the entire MENA region changed. And you have the Egyptian man who was killed by police forces before 25th Jan revolution.

[slender coral]

What does him being a president change? That actually makes it worse. It won't only be an attack on the will of the tens of millions of citizens who elected him but also on the entire US democracy.

[wary sun]

Entire US democracy

[slender coral]

Wasn't he elected? All American liberals probably hate him but not all of them would accept his assassination.

[wary sun]

I mean his election is built only on racism.

Unfortunately that's what lack of education and corruption does to a country

[slender coral]

Well, you can say whatever you want about him and talk about how shitty he is, but that doesn't change that he was brought by a democratic process.
I agree with you he is a scumbag, but killing him is not a pragmatic move nor a moral one even.

[manic juniper]

I don't really like him and he has a lot of blood on his hands, if something happened to him I wouldn't even care. He also violated the will of millions of people first when he instigated the occupation of the capitol, almost an attempted coup

[wary sun]

The thing is I don't agree with killing someone either. I am just always amazed at how indiferent most Americans are considering they can barely afford paracetamol.

[uncut tiger]

@turbid dome happy shabbat

[manic juniper]

These are all examples of people with no political power, George Floyd too caused many protests

So we don't know what happens when you kill a politician, but most of the time nothing happens

[lime cobalt]

If public shootings are normalized, why have elections? Just duel in the field. No need democracy

[manic juniper]

Princess Diana, that Swedish prime minister too were killed and nothing happened

[turbid dome]

I don’t think it’s Shabbat but I’m atheist anyways

[manic juniper]

If anything this proves the rule that killing political figures is safer than killing average people

[uncut tiger]

check the date

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-knuckles-freaky-gif-12830799583270855342

[wary sun]

I think elections are based on the idea that there is democracy. Unfortunately nowadays it's hard to name 5 countries in this world where democracy exists

[slender coral]

Did princess Diana have a political agend that people supported?

[turbid dome]

It’s not 9/11 yet here

[uncut tiger]

[slender coral]

Discussing the very joyful topic of politics as you can see.

[uncut tiger]

soon

[manic juniper]

Yeah, many people thought she was an unorthodox royal and she was a good example of a royal

[turbid dome]

Why would I be happy that Allende died

[manic juniper]

Many still think she was killed by the royal family itself

[uncut tiger]

the mods are telling me to stop talking abt this so-

[turbid dome]

9/11 is when the US couped chile and made Allende Kermit and did Pinochet

[uncut tiger]

[manic juniper]

You know how annoying the British monarchy is, she wasn't like the others, I think she was overrated but it's true that she was different and it wouldn't surprise me if her death was orchestrated

[wary sun]

Tbh I am fed up with being led by the same age group. Bush led America from 2001 to 2009. Trump is the same age as Bush

America has been led by the same generation for what 25 years and America still votes the same generation.

And so do many other countries

[lime cobalt]

it was not proven to be a murder, but wild conspiracy theories emerged.

[frail nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/appurajosh-appu-gif-21480115

[lime cobalt]

Are u american dude ?

[lime cobalt]

It’s the United States that promotes democracy around the world, but look at the instability, the countries labeled as dictatorships actually appear more stable.

[serene plover]

it fake it this for manipulate the countries

[lime cobalt]

Nooooo

[wary sun]

Nop thankfully

[lime cobalt]

I dunno him, but i feel sad , why ???

[wary sun]

Why indeed

[frail nexus]

narrative

[hushed ferry]

Anyone see what just happened in the US?

[wary sun]

I feel sad for the people who had to witness that. Definitely traumatic and dangerous.

[wary sun]

No, what happened?

[hushed ferry]

Charlie Kirk was assassinated @wary sun

Confirmed dead as of a few minutes ago

[wary sun]

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-its-worth-have-cost-unfortunately-some-gun-deaths-every-single-year-so-we

I guess it was worth it

[hushed ferry]

Theres some very graphic video going around so definitely don't search it up if you can't handle it

uhhhh okay?

uhhh not sure, why?

[autumn pulsar]

Man my country's political party is in a dizzy right now

After Charlie kirk was assassinated

[lime cobalt]

I saw it, dude, a shooting in public, at a university , u are american right ?

[autumn pulsar]

I just saw the video of it was so bad

[hushed ferry]

no im Canadian

[wary sun]

Can we also agree the irony of it all? Being killed by what you preach?

[autumn pulsar]

He was talking about gun violence as it happend

[hushed ferry]

His last words was literally a snark answer to a question about gun violence, seconds before the shot rang out

[wary sun]

Did anyone not expect for something like this to happen?

[autumn pulsar]

His last words were gang violence

[wary sun]

As an European I can never understand the gun obsession

[lime cobalt]

What did he say about it ?

[wary sun]

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-its-worth-have-cost-unfortunately-some-gun-deaths-every-single-year-so-we this is smth he was talking about 2 years ago

How its wrth sacrificing lifes to keep guns a right

[manic juniper]

Lol

[wary sun]

I bet his opinion didn't change since then

[hushed ferry]

Questioner: Ahhh do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
Charlie: Too many
Crowd: claps
Question: unintelligible I'm gonna give you some credit. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been over the last 10 years?
Charlie: Counting or not counting gang violence?
3 seconds later: gunshot Charlie keels over with blood gushing at the neck

[manic juniper]

How many more commentators do they need to shoot before their opinions change

[wary sun]

Again... the irony of it all. Sure it's sad to see anyone die... but as a person who had some power to push for a change? When kids are killed in schools, when people are killed in their homes, when it takes 2 seconds to take someone's life from so far away how does anyone sleep at night? And then everyone complains about gun violence

[hushed ferry]

Yeah he was literally one of the biggest proponents of the 2nd amendment

idolized by many of Trump's younger male fans

[hushed ferry]

since his body keeled over? probably not

[lime cobalt]

You understand society ?

In america

[warm garnet]

Still man Even if you disagree with his opinions he hasn’t done any crimes. He’s just holding political conversation and debates.
People should not act this way!💔
You don’t face words with gun shots rest in peace CharlieKirk

[hushed ferry]

I didnt say he deserved to die like this, just stating the irony

[lime cobalt]

I don’t blame him since the Constitution says so. Besides, crime in the US can’t be handled just by the police, so people feel the need to protect themselves and their families. Do you think it’s safe to leave criminals entirely to the police?

[wary sun]

You say that but this guy said it's worth for other people to die in order for me to keep my gun.

Someone did exactly what he said it's worth doing and al of a sudden everyone is offended

He showed 0 empathy towards anyone who was a victim of gun violence. It's not a politica conversation when you say something like this.

[hushed ferry]

also i cannot definitely say he wasnt a criminal. many of his actions were definitely criminal, if not borderline so. he wasn't just a guy with empathy who had good faith conversations with people.

Regardless of his first amendment rights, he was NOT a good person

[manic juniper]

It is the second tho, not the first, isn't it

[hushed ferry]

his right to say whatever he pleases is the 1st, but the right to carry arms or promote it is the 2nd

[wary sun]

It's because of an obsession Americans have with guns.

It's a toxic relationship that they just don't wanna give up. The idea of less guns less crimes just doesn't seem to settle in anyone's bran.

[wary sun]

To me anyone who says that other people are worth dying for their own comfort are just horrible humans.

[warm garnet]

Ok let me tell you for example in the arab world when someone talked against Palestine but in respectful way people began to attack him cancel him follow him in the street beating him up
The idea is freedom of speech is important you don’t do that to a man we have to to get the different between someone who does crimes and someone who only using words showing his opinions this is very dangers are we gonna punish people for there point of views? the us should not turn to what other countries have become

[hushed ferry]

Guns were added to the constitution as a protection against tyranny, and Americans like to pretend thats still the case

[wary sun]

How do you talk against Palestine in a respectful way?

[wary sun]

So true

[manic juniper]

Hitler didn't do any violence himself (except as a soldier, which is legal), he instigated it

Does he get a free pass since he only used his words

[wary sun]

I still don't know what one can say against Palestine right now in a polite way

[hushed ferry]

same could be argued for Trump with regards to political violence (not sexual violence, he has ABSOLUTELY done that)

[warm garnet]

For example maybe you say something like i think there are lots of wars other than Palestine and we should care about other wars as much as this and also they voted for Hamas and the land was jewish whatever his point
Could be i meant that when you make a point without telling curses and stuff like that being polite

[wary sun]

Unless they have literally 0 empathy

[wary sun]

Do you really believe what you just said?

[hushed ferry]

who voted for Hamas? Palestinians?! Most are kids who weren't even born then

[warm garnet]

Do you know how many people took Israeli side on this war do you suggest that we should hold our guns and start hunting them down shooting their heads out because thats what im getting out from this view

[manic juniper]

To their soldiers? Absolutely, since they are involved in the war

[warm garnet]

(Im setting an example)@hushed ferry @wary sun
Now do you think i should shoot the guy who says this?

[manic juniper]

Targeting soldiers is just self defence unless they are surrendering or retreating

[warm garnet]

Yep but we are talking about public normal people who says those things

[hushed ferry]

Literally who said that? No one said here that people should be shot for stating their opinions.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[turbid dome]

In the Nuremberg trials propagandists were tried, so if it’s someone like a news broadcaster or government spokesperson then they should be imprisoned

[manic juniper]

What are they saying exactly?

[warm garnet]

Its not like Charlie’s was Netanyahu okay? Charlies does not has any criminal record

[manic juniper]

If someone for example says that women should be killed I wouldn't feel sorry if, for example, a big boulder fell on his bed while he was sleeping

I'm not saying the boulder fell on him in particular or anything, but it happens to fall on his bed while it's bedtime

[wary sun]

Did I ever suggest that shooting someone is a good idea? I honestly feel 0 empathy for any Israeli and anyone who is willingly killing innocent people. All I see are people throwing antisemitic words around. I also see people unnecessarily dying. What is Israel gonna do next? Go after Germany?

[turbid dome]

He would fall under the propagandist role, ideally he should’ve been tried in court for serving as a genocide propagandist

[quick drum]

I pooped myself...

[lean skiff]

charlie dead yalllllllllll 😜

[wary sun]

The reality is that Israel had the technology and the help to identify who should die from hamas yet they decided to flatten a country and starve people to death.

[quick drum]

yeah f u isrel

[turbid dome]

Even killing Hamas is illegal under international law btw

[quick drum]

more like go get her

[lean skiff]

hope shes ok

[hushed ferry]

we were just discussing that😅

[quick drum]

lets go again round 2

[wary sun]

The point is their interest is far from just defending themselves

[warm garnet]

My idea wasnt about the idf soldiers or israel im not talking about those im talking about we should not kill the people who having debates and take the side of israel it was an example to show a point if you want to crush these people and make palstiane more famous you do more protest you put the flags around you don’t shoot the man in the head what people are we going to say about us if we did that?

[turbid dome]

They have no right in international law to even be in Gaza, as it’s occupied by them. Every Israeli soldier who steps into Gaza is a criminal

[warm garnet]

And who said that

[quick drum]

I think that the more you think about the fact that im not the perfect example of someone ready to handle the kind of perfect example of someone's party of ready to inspire by...

[wary sun]

No one should be killed. In an ideal world where you dont say "Is worth for people to die as long as I keep my weapon" you don't die by the exact same thing you preach.

[lean skiff]

is that smart school boy 9 in the pfp

[manic juniper]

Many people do

[turbid dome]

No that’s me

[hushed ferry]

more buzzed than on a bottle of his friend Trump's failed vodka brand?

[lean skiff]

whatever she said

[quick drum]

what are you on about clock back to the Wendy's line you're in

[warm garnet]

So shooting him was justified?

[lean skiff]

he should've parried it

[wary sun]

Well based on what he preached so far yes. He said that not me. That's what he promotes and that's what killed him.

[manic juniper]

People have the right to not feel sad

[warm garnet]

Bruh even in the court system rapiest and killers get a life time not a bullet

[wary sun]

I don't feel happy for his death, I don't feel sad either.

[turbid dome]

According to Charlie Kirk, to paraphrase, deaths by gun violence are worth it to keep the second amendment. He thinks his death is worth it

[lime cobalt]

Police cant protect u 24/7

[turbid dome]

There’s the death penalty here, must be nice living in a place which has abolished it though

[hushed ferry]

heard the reviews are excellent on those... supposedly

[warm garnet]

Idk what to say this is really weird

[wary sun]

But he preached that. Which part of he said that is worth for people to die as long as he can keep his weapon? Only that it was him who died. Where were the political parties in 2023 when he said that? Why are they so appalled now.

[wary sun]

Did you see the interview I shared earlier? Don't have to believe me. Watch him say it.

I'll say it again. I feel sad for whoever witnessed an idiot getting himself killed by the same ideology he promoted to kids.

[manic juniper]

At least his kids will grow up without his example

[wary sun]

Those students did not deserve to be witness to something so horrific or to be taught how guns are so important.

[turbid dome]

Net W for them

[warm garnet]

Cuz i think we shouldn’t hold people who’s not in political position when his words are not the effects of killing someone oh well i could say that what Bashar alsed did in syria was okay
Am i going to die now? Wheres the sniper?

[serene gulch]

at the end of the day political violence should be wholly condemned and he should not have died

[wary sun]

Unfortunately these type of things are alwasys going to generate more hate. It's sad

[lime cobalt]

Do u quote it precisely ? As long as he keep his weapon ?

[vivid field]

That’s disgusting, he was still their father and those kids don’t deserve to grow up without their father

They literally watched him die

[wary sun]

It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.

[serene gulch]

okay correct me if im wrong but do people internationally see america as an example of free expression

[wary sun]

There quote

[serene gulch]

im american so idk what yall see

[manic juniper]

They could've turned up badly, if my father promoted violence I would've rather grown up without him around

[hushed ferry]

Like here's the thing, I can't really feel bad for someone who died so quickly. I can feel bad for his family, because they lost a loved one. Who I don't feel bad for is the GOP establishment who propped him up to spread such hateful and dangerous ideologies

[turbid dome]

“But what about Hitler’s wife”

[tender vessel]

He's probably the one who ordered it.

[vivid field]

Comparing Charlie Kirk and hitler!?!? Are we serious

[manic juniper]

No

[turbid dome]

Nah why would he order it lmao

[wary sun]

I don't think many people see America as something good

[turbid dome]

Though that’s confirmation that you should not feel bad for Charlie Kirk

[serene gulch]

oh snap 😭

[vivid field]

I didn’t agree with a single thing that man promoted. Does that mean I think his children should grow up without their father? No.

[hushed ferry]

hahahahaha nope

[turbid dome]

The point is that everyone has a family

[warm garnet]

Idkk there are ones who justified him dying bec of his political views

[vivid field]

Yeah, so have empathy

Imagine if that was your father.

[manic juniper]

Sometimes it's for the better, I'm sure that some children would rather grow up without a father, sure I can't speak for them but I'd be glad if I were in their place

[wary sun]

I think the point of all this is: "Be careful what you wish for." And "Don't go promote weapons to kids."

[warm garnet]

@vivid field

[manic juniper]

Parents aren't holy figures, they aren't flawless or anything, some of them can be true monsters, in his case he promoted violence in a country already plagued by widespread gun violence

[turbid dome]

I don’t know legally if I can say what I’m thinking

[vivid field]

You have absolutely no idea what his children thought of him. They probably loved and cared for him very much

[manic juniper]

I think it's better to have no father rather than one like him, imagine a kid who grows up thinking he should keep his gun with him all the times

[manic juniper]

Yes but they are kids, maybe they'll be thankful in the future, who knows

[vivid field]

That’s his opinion. Nobody should die over their political beliefs

[hushed ferry]

thats my only thought. Republicans probably think the kids of prominent Democrats deserve better parents even if they love them very much, doesnt mean that is right either

[verbal torrent]

Not even political

He is a pdf

[wary sun]

I think we should refrain bringing kids into this discussion

[vivid field]

HOW can you be a Democrat and say “get rid of gun violence” then CELEBRATE when someone dies to gun violence you guys are sick

[manic juniper]

They shouldn't, but that happens sometimes. And besides, the other girl said that's his opinion too, that guns are worth dying for

[turbid dome]

Who says I’m a Democrat lmao

[vivid field]

I’m ashamed to be a Democrat

[frail nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/grogu-boba-fett-mandalorian-latest-gif-19444688

[vivid field]

Just people online in general rn

[wary sun]

At the end of the day they are also victims who will be raised by a single mother because of gun violence

[manic juniper]

You should, there should be more than two parties or opinions

[hushed ferry]

For the record, I am Democrat-aligned and am not celebrating, but I'm certainly not sad for him either. Its a damn shame, is what I think

[lime cobalt]

Not guns , the rights

[warm garnet]

The point he is not someone with power that made horrible changes in the country he wasn’t the ceo of heathcare who got shot the ceo at least made people life worse didn’t make them get the treatment that they did but Charlies was political commentator

[manic juniper]

The rights are what keep all these guns around, when the Australian government bought the guns from its citizens FIVE TIMES they ended up destroying millions of them

There are likely billions of guns in USA

[turbid dome]

I mean, would I prefer nobody died and he goes to jail? Sure. It would’ve been really nice if the whole Nazi party got cleanly arrested and no violence occurred too.

[vivid field]

Why wouldn’t you feel bad for his family??

[serene gulch]

an important thing to note is that he was shot on a university campus. the fact security was so low as to allow someone to carry such a large gun into the area should be investigated even under american standards

[vivid field]

Imagine how they feel

[wary sun]

Okay but what is your opinion of the victims of shooting that he was talking about? Those that were worth it as a sacrifice. Or the fact that he promotes guns to young people?

[tender vessel]

I don't know. Harrison Smith said he heard from someone close to Kirk that he used to say Israel would kill him if he turns against them.
The perpetrator shot him from 100-200 yards away and the police couldn't catch him. That seems to me like a malice aforethought.

[hushed ferry]

I am sad for them, they dont necessarily deserve this

[vivid field]

The shooter could have shot students there as well

[manic juniper]

Being a political commentator is a bigger responsibility than a nameless CEO, sure the CEO is more directly responsible but he's not the emperor, he's a cog in the corporation and he can be replaced

[wary sun]

Cause he is on TV promoting this opinions, he is a public figure that does have an impact on the public by preaching his opinions. What do you think?

[turbid dome]

Charlie Kirk loves Israel and never stopped loving Israel so that doesn’t even make sense

Even so they can’t just assassinated everyone they don’t like lmao

[hushed ferry]

Look I recognize that a lot of people, how good or horrible they are, are products of their environment. Theres very few people I think are truly truly evil and not deserving of empathy.

[vivid field]

I absolute despise Trump and think he should be locked up. Does he deserve to die? No. He’s a human

[wary sun]

I think thats some silly speculstion on what happened. I think people should refrain from that when there is nothing to back it up

[warm garnet]

Because you don’t have evidence of someone doing crimes because of words of Charlie’s that cheered for people to kill other people
Thats the point he wasn’t leader like Netanyahu who has the control to stop the deaths

[tender vessel]

Honestly, despite him being an idiot, I never wished him to be killed. He was a father and husband.

[hushed ferry]

As much as I disagree with Trump or Kirk they are, somehow, still human

[lime cobalt]

The right to be able to protect oneself I actually don’t fully understand the situation on the ground in the US. I’m just assuming the conditions are really bad if the right to bear arms is truly needed.

[warm garnet]

I haven’t gone deeper into what he suggests but im sure if he was alive and you ask him those questions he could answer you of his reasons but the man is flat dead rn

[wary sun]

And I think that's a valid opinion to have. That's exactly how I feel about him too. I'm not sad, not happy. Didn't wish to happen, but if it did I'm not feeling sad for it.

[tender vessel]

It was just a comment. Wasn't intended to be a conclusion or anything. That's why I said "probably".

[manic juniper]

Like I said before, nowhere I said I want this to repeat itself but you can't force people to feel pity or sadness either according to your logic, I only feel pity for his family and hope his kids grow up in a functional environment without a negative influence

[turbid dome]

It’s not, and never was. It because the original intention was a system of citizen militias to function as the army, and the second amendment was about militias

It was reinterpreted by right wingers

[hushed ferry]

Exactly, I'm not mourning Charlie but he did not deserve to go out like that.

[manic juniper]

It's only needed because everyone keeps guns, the government should buy back and destroy these guns

[tender vessel]

That's pretty much what I feel.

[turbid dome]

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

[lime cobalt]

So u agree to destroy nukes too

[manic juniper]

Give them few decades to sell these guns to the government, if they don't comply then they will be confiscated and they will get fined or jailed for keeping them. It will not remove all guns but it will remove the bulk

[manic juniper]

Complete non sequitur

[warm garnet]

@wary sun Because the idea there a lot of people who can be killed if we start doing this shit for example who do you support what ur religion maybe i could take someone you love who said horrible things and justify killing em for it

[wary sun]

This is an answer so worthy of the Israel question. Most people would say to that that is a horrible thing to say. You should be totally speaking against it. Many of those people who he talks about are also dead. They were innocent unlike this dude. Why is ur opinion not the same when it's about them?

[turbid dome]

Every country should have nukes, because nukes prevent being invaded on a large scale. Only when every country has nukes we can get rid of them

[manic juniper]

The guns are needed for self defence, untrained people with guns simply are a danger to those around them. And with such a large amount of guns in circulation it's only a matter of time before they are smuggled in large quantities in the black market, they will end up in the wrongest hands

[lime cobalt]

What the different is a weapon too

[turbid dome]

Nah I’d rather get rid of guns for Self Defence, it rarely even works here

[manic juniper]

Can anyone buy a nuke?

[warm garnet]

My opinion about who? The people in gaza ? Or what

[wary sun]

Sure, but most of us here never said we wished him that. Neither do we say we are happy that he died. What we are saying is that this guy kept promoting guns with 0 consideration towards human life and he died because of what he promoted.

[manic juniper]

I was talking in the context of an invasion, so they must be kept by the government exclusively or by the civilians only if an invasion is incumbent. Two things that are not going to happen to USA

[tender vessel]

The serious chat has never been more active. Lol

[turbid dome]

Oh yeah understandable

[hushed ferry]

just wait till Trump kicks the bucket, you havent seen anything yet

thats not even a joke, im calling it rn

[warm garnet]

The question is do you think what happened today should happen and that he should get shot cuz of his words

[manic juniper]

I don't support unregulated violence but I'm a pagan and I support human sacrifices (if ethical), if you harm my relatives I will make an offer to Quetzalcoatl

[turbid dome]

The day Trump dies is going to be full of the best memes

It’ll be in the most hilarious way knowing Trump

[hushed ferry]

my guy she literally said no and you are re-asking the question

[tender vessel]

What do you think Trump will do?

[hushed ferry]

kick the bucket? do you not know what that means? or are you asking how I think he'll die?

[manic juniper]

I think Charlie would've been better off sacrificed to the gods of war such as Mars and Iku-Turso, just to placate their wrath and diminish gun violence

[wary sun]

Absolutely not but I think if you going to publicly make certain statements you shouldn't be amazed that in a country like America someone will do what you preach. The level of brainwash is mental.

[turbid dome]

My namesake

Guess that explains a lot

[warm garnet]

I mean to show my idea even more there are terriosts organisations right and there are people who says in public or tv that they don’t condom it for example now do i think we should kill these people no

[hushed ferry]

watch all the covfefe memes return

[turbid dome]

Peak meming right there

[tender vessel]

No. I'm asking a different question. What do you think Trump will do, since Kirk was one of his biggest supporters. He was a friend with Trump Jr.

[wary sun]

In an ideal world, no one should die.

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately this is what happens when you anger those who regulate the guns, war can't be wielded or waged by everyone. Athena said this (I think)
Don't keep tools of war if you aren't ready to wage it

[earnest tide]

Rip Charlie i m so sorry i shed a small tear
No one deserve to die for their political stance

[hushed ferry]

ohhh i dont know, but my very uneducated guess is send the National Guard to Utah now?

[manic juniper]

Remember what killed Harambe.

[turbid dome]

It’s Utah so he’ll have a harder time cracking down. He’ll absolutely try and blame it on some group (illegals or leftists) and ramp up enforcement to look tough

[turbid dome]

Nah no way it’s a red state

[wary sun]

But what people should understand is that he didn't die for a political stance imo. No one kills someone for simply a political stance

[hushed ferry]

well they might for the motivations or intentions BEHIND the political stance

[wary sun]

The lesson that shoud be learnt fro this and the rest of the shootings is that guns shouldn't be accessed so easily. Do you think anyone would learn this lesson? Or maybe the government will learn?

[lime cobalt]

I think we can’t assume the real situation in America is as we imagine. If a country can have nukes for defense, why can’t individuals protect themselves?

[turbid dome]

Master debating

[warm garnet]

Maybe he was dumbass whatever if things could go this way there are people who i generally dislike and hate of what they prompt but like i dont wanna celebrate it .. if they die
Im trying to be fair

[turbid dome]

Do you think that a country is at all equivalent to a person?

[wary sun]

Because not every citizen can release a nuke right?

[earnest tide]

Charlie was so based
No men can be women
And mass immigration ILLEGAL needs to stop
No one ever dessrve this

[wary sun]

What logic is that even lol

[turbid dome]

Also I’m literally in the US and so with both personal experience and statistics I can very easily figure out the situation lmao

[tender vessel]

I guess he'll throw some accusations at the opposing groups, maybe leftists or immigrants.

[earnest tide]

May he rest in peace

[hushed ferry]

the US will never learn if all these mass shootings per MONTH has not. Even Canada has a large per capita gun ownership, and guess how many shootings we've had?

[manic juniper]

I think it should work like it does in my country as with guns as it is for nukes, without restrictions on any weapon of any kind, but it needs to be approved first so you are allowed to ask for a nuke, but it's not guaranteed you'll be able to buy one

[warm garnet]

So whats ur opinion about what happened

[turbid dome]

Yeah, if the Trump shooting attempts and Steve scalise didn’t make them learn, they’ll never learn

[tender vessel]

Yeah, that's also what I'd expect him to do. He's pretty impulsive.

[turbid dome]

I wish he got jailed and publicly humiliated on trial in The Hague on the grounds that he is a genocide propagandist

[wary sun]

Well to put it in perspective in Europe in 2024 there were 7 mass shootings. In America in 2024 there were 586.

That's all I have to say to anyone who talks about guns ownership and promotes them

[lime cobalt]

Okay, what makes you sure that without guns, the crime rate in the US would go down?

[turbid dome]

American dialogue tree for anyone who comes up with their classic responses means you’ll get someone who says “but what about substitution effect and mass stabbings”

And then you have to explain stabbings are less deadly than shootings

[wary sun]

In my country in Romania there have been 0 since 2019, when we had 1. Before 2019, we had one more in 2012.

[hushed ferry]

In Canada, 11 deadly school shootings between '95 and 2013. Total school shootings in the US in that time, as well as since 2013? 434

[manic juniper]

Having a gun allows weak people to commit crimes on any other person, if you remove guns you remove a chance for them to commit crimes

[turbid dome]

strong record of gun control working, in theory and practice

[manic juniper]

What do you think of Dobruja Tatars

[wary sun]

Yeah I normally ask if we count the alien invasions too

[wary sun]

What am I meant to think of them?

[hushed ferry]

when the aliens invade, i will be the first to advocate for weaker gun control measures

[manic juniper]

I don't know, I only ever met one of them

[turbid dome]

The aliens may be preferable

[wary sun]

Just humans like us all. Never met any, and don't mind if I do

[tender vessel]

That's solid.
The gun ownership policy is incredibly stupid.

[manic juniper]

What about Hungarians

[wary sun]

Well based on the aliens spotting that kinda multiples the list for America by x10 cause aliens seem to only got to America and UK lol

[wary sun]

We don't go there

[turbid dome]

Better keep their hands off Transylvania

[manic juniper]

"A shining example of European democracy"
Deport Hungarians

[wary sun]

Nah, I have nothing against anyone as long as they have nothing against me

Otherwise i have something against them having something against me

[wary sun]

Deport them where?

[manic juniper]

I don't know, the meme doesn't specify that

[lime cobalt]

Wait, aren’t guns supposed to be licensed? And in this situation, I think not necessarily, because criminals are convinced that their victims don’t have guns, so their confidence goes even higher.

[manic juniper]

Deport them to Transylvania so there are more of them

[manic juniper]

They removed guns, licenced and not, off Australia and gun violence practically died there

[wary sun]

Did yall see this?

[turbid dome]

No, they’re not licensed in the US

[manic juniper]

Not even the aliens like visiting Scotland

[turbid dome]

Americans really think that a cornfield in Nebraska is most interesting to aliens

[wary sun]

It's cold and windy

[turbid dome]

Pure arrogance

[lime cobalt]

No, thats a problem

[wary sun]

And no one understands the accent

[manic juniper]

Also wtf an alien sighting on lake Oulujärvi? That had to be me for sure

[turbid dome]

Transylvania is nice I could deal with being deported there

[wary sun]

I love how they always make it corn. There is never something else but the native corn field

[tender vessel]

And you think facilitating gun welding is the solution?

[turbid dome]

Well aliens run on corn powered ships

[wary sun]

It's beautiful just gotta get used to Romanians tbh which s the hardest part sometimes

[manic juniper]

Why did they fund a Jewish Space Laser if it wasn't going to shoot down a single alien ship, the military budget is overblown

[manic juniper]

How, they are the best people I ever met

[turbid dome]

It was quite nice, the locals were friendly

[lime cobalt]

Yess with a lisence and good record

[manic juniper]

Friendliest and made me feel comfortable despite being a massive introvert

[wary sun]

Very happy you had a great experience

[wary sun]

Thank you ill take that compliment

[turbid dome]

Yeah everyone makes fun of the Balkans but both Croatia and Romania had some of the nicest people

[hushed ferry]

Alien tour guide; and here we have the humans most nutritious food source: wheat

**gestures down to a giant barren wheat field **

Alien tourist 1: Needs some seasoning

[wary sun]

I think there is a huge misconception about Eastern Europe in particular. Also Croatia is gorgeus

[manic juniper]

It depends a lot on the country, the Balkans are more welcoming than the rest of Eastern Europe but there is some resemblance of high trust societies there

[turbid dome]

Should’ve landed in Louisiana or New York if they wanted food with flavor in the US

[turbid dome]

Well yes you must all be mean Soviets

[wary sun]

Every single cm of all the 163 I have is full of meanness

[turbid dome]

I know, it’s true. You are an emotionlesss being for the policies of the Soviet Union and we must be prepared to stereotype Eastern Europeans if we ever want the Cold War to work out 😭

[hushed ferry]

Tour guide; how about we divert for England? They invaded dozens of countries over hundreds of years. They must have super flavourful food.

Alien tourists: Hooray!

Later, at a Gregg’s:

Alien tourists: Never mind, no flavour to be found

One of them: OK but these sausage rolls tho

[wary sun]

We have it easier than Asians tbh

[turbid dome]

Ends up with haggis 💀

[wary sun]

Can you imagine the disappointment? ....

[turbid dome]

North Koreans especially. Everyone thinks they’re just like insane emotionless pure evil people instead of just people in a closed country

[wary sun]

I really have a lot of empathy for the people there

[turbid dome]

You already told me you were Romanian don’t worry

Jk

[wary sun]

Dw u don't need to say jk, im Romanian

[hushed ferry]

Yeah if you guys ever watch the K drama Crash Landing on You, it gives a really good perspective of how North Koreans are, end of the day, normal people like all of us, with empathy, hopes and dreams

[wary sun]

@hushed ferry are you British?

[turbid dome]

And arguably better kpop

[hushed ferry]

No but I watched a lot of British TV and streamers in my day

Also a massive Doctor who fan

[wary sun]

British TV is a thing? What do you even watch? I've been living in Britain for 8 years and still didn't feel like it's worth paying for tv

[hushed ferry]

I mean, I gee like the BBC seems to have a decent selection from what I’ve heard

[manic juniper]

There are some good series that were Americanised because...???

[hushed ferry]

What I will never get about the UK though is the concept of a TV license

[turbid dome]

Ok let’s not go as far to say there’s good British TV (jk there is)

[wary sun]

Yeah no one ever will

[manic juniper]

It's a thing in a lot of European countries with state owned TV channels

[wary sun]

The best Britsh TV thing is people watching tv.

https://tenor.com/view/gogglebox-scared-jumped-uk-tv-channel4-gif-21310329

[turbid dome]

Imagine having state TV when you can just tell private corporations to act like they’re state media and use obscure parts of the government like broadcasting board of governors to have state TV

[wary sun]

I love watching people on tv that watch other people on their tv

[turbid dome]

The cycle could continue forever

[wary sun]

Is it? What other countries?

[wary sun]

Love that!

[hushed ferry]

BTW any Doctor Who fans here?

[turbid dome]

No but my mom loves it

[hushed ferry]

God you make me sound old by saying that (unless you’re really young)😅

[turbid dome]

20

[hushed ferry]

Jokes aside, it beats Star Trek and Star Wars any day

[turbid dome]

Nah

[hushed ferry]

Ehhh I’m 26 not much older

[turbid dome]

Yup

[manic juniper]

There is a ridiculous amount, Albania, Turkey, UK, Switzerland, Italy, it was a thing in Finland until 2013, many other countries also removed it

But most of them had one and those who don't usually had it at some point

Can only think of the Baltics that never had one in the first place. But most of the others did

[magic olive]

Finally, this chat came to a pause

[lime cobalt]

What remains a question is the motive for the shooting. he’s not the president or a member of Congress, so why is he the target?

[manic juniper]

Because he was annoying ig

[uneven citrus]

smoke screen

[lime cobalt]

Breaking news “ i shoot him coz he was annoying “

[high raven]

Valid reason in America

[tender vessel]

I guess the shooter wanted to deliver a message, since he was defending the gun policy in the US and is justifying the mass shooting incidents at the time he was shot in the neck.

[lime cobalt]

He is not a decision maker

[warm garnet]

i hate u guys

[lime cobalt]

He can say anything but still he is not a decision maker

[manic juniper]

When you give guns to everyone then the reasons can be any

[tender vessel]

Agreed.

[frail nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/television-tv-tv-shows-exterminate-doctor-who-gif-18824276

[hushed ferry]

I'll take it you either love Doctor Who or took offense to my statement on Star Wars or Star Trek

[magic olive]

Crazy

[lost flume]

Bc someone “didn’t like his opinions” exercising freedom of speech and then getting killed for it is absolutely disgusting

[magic olive]

What if he got shot in the neck, because the shooter had no clear view of his head under the tent.

[frail nexus]

he's a figure head who dies to stir emotions of opposite groups. red vs blue. conservative vs liberal. ultimately it'll result in the flame fanning of polar opposites and the comptrollers will make answers that result in more control of the public.

[frail nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-tyranid-space-marines-titus-gif-4053401268298780302

yes

[warm garnet]

To the people who justify his killing
i totally agree with parker @hushed ferry @manic juniper @turbid dome @wary sun

[frail nexus]

space is fake but the sci-fi is entertaining

[lost flume]

Whatever shot they were trying to make, they killed an innocent man, husband, and father who had his own opinions and rights. I don’t care if you agreed with him or not, the people who are celebrating this are absolutely horrible

[manic juniper]

Where did anyone justify it

I simply said "people have the right to not feel sad"

[magic olive]

couldn’t have said it better myself

[main bison]

Charlie Kirk passed away 🥲
He was one my my fav influencers :(

[manic juniper]

He would've supported this right as well, if you want to make him proud you should respect my opinion

[warm garnet]

We just had conv like minutes ago about this topic

[lost flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1259553761739673611.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=bsfdancing_sine

[noble raven]

What did he talk about?

[manic juniper]

I feel pity for his family and hope his kids turn out better and make the best out of this situation

[turbid dome]

Yeah I don’t feel pity for the family

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[turbid dome]

I’m not required to feel sad

[warm garnet]

I didn’t say anything about not accepting ur view im just still sharing my views to you and others thats all

[warm garnet]

I mean just look at this dude

[manic juniper]

no you accused us of justifying his killing

[manic juniper]

He has the right to not feel sad

[warm garnet]

We know but its nice as human beings to feel sad for famliy lost

[turbid dome]

Ok well I don’t care, why do I need to care

[main bison]

Why would u not care about a innocent men getting killed just because he shared some opinions some ppl didn't like?

[warm garnet]

I didn’t say he has to feel sad did i ? Anyway oh oppsese i dont think i should shoot him bec i disgree with his views too

[manic juniper]

Because I never met him, I have no attachments to him, I don't even know what his voice sounds like, the only thing I knew about him were funny quotes and his face shrinking over time

Do you feel sad about the death of Roman soldier Vincentius Thracianides? I wouldn't

[main bison]

But he was still a victim
So did u meet the Jewish ppl who died of holocaust?

[manic juniper]

I met their grandchildren

[main bison]

Do you feel sad about that?

[warm garnet]

Bec when u live in community it matters for us humans to care about each other in case of danger when that ukranjan women got attacked died at train no one helped her or care because its not my issue that is a thing i would call good deeds

[turbid dome]

Do you think Charlie Kirk’s death is comparable to the Holocaust?

[warm garnet]

Ill see a child getting beaten and act the same as you happy?

[manic juniper]

No because he probably committed war crimes in Free Dacia, fuck that guy. He had it coming

[high raven]

I had to google, it's the toilet paper USA guy I loved those memes

[main bison]

Killing is killing
Whether it's one person or millions
It's never accepted and they just be treated with respect

[high raven]

Why would anyone shoot him

[turbid dome]

Ok well Charlie Kirk is a vile person, I’m not going to pretend to feel sorry that he died and fake concern and sorry if I don’t mean it.

[manic juniper]

Well his views are exactly why it happened. I'll give you an example, in how many countries do you know of people dying in a sauna competition?

[uneven citrus]

not even worth the try

[warm garnet]

Sauna competition? Idk zero

[tender vessel]

I totally condemn this incident, but just a note, Kirk was never innocent. He literally justified the killing of thousands, I don't think his life is any more precious than theirs.

[turbid dome]

“It’s just a political view” is a really funny thing to say because politics affects people’s lives.

Not to say that it makes it acceptable

[manic juniper]

It happened in one country, and it happens to be the country where saunas are the most common per capita, that's not a coincidence. When saunas are promoted and used by everyone it is bound to happen that more people than usual will die in a sauna, and that, eventually, someone will even die in a sauna competition.

[turbid dome]

But it is funny to try and play it off as innocent

[uneven citrus]

it's always minimized to just a political take

[warm garnet]

Parker said i don’t like his ideology but i don’t justify killing him
Like isn’t this is a reasonable and logical response to what just occurred today whyy people are just fighting against it

[turbid dome]

There’s a difference between justifying killing him and making fun of him and not feeling sorry for him

[warm garnet]

Did they intend to kill people

[manic juniper]

The people kept playing despite being aware of the risks involved, and the guy died because he wanted to win the competition

[warm garnet]

Idk why ur proud of ur views but ok ig

[main bison]

Making fun of a dead person?
Which one of ur parents teach u that's a good thing? Ur mom or dad?

[high raven]

He himself believed that some gun deaths are worth having to uphold their second amendment, if he didn't feel bad for school children, why would liberals in the US feel bad for him

[turbid dome]

Dead people aren’t suddenly holy. I’ll make fun of Hitler all the time.

[manic juniper]

Now the only difference between Finland and USA is that, unfortunately, Finland cancelled all future sauna competitions. In my opinion having one person a year dying was worth keeping the competition, but democracy won and we lost the World Sauna Championship forever. If USA was the same they'd make a change about guns

[main bison]

It's just that the society must've been built in a way that YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET SHOT just because you shared some opinions

[uneven citrus]

he even gave us an example how cute of him

[manic juniper]

When you give guns to everyone it's bound to happen...

[turbid dome]

Charlie Kirk literally advocated against that, that’s why everyone is making fun of it

[manic juniper]

It's like giving sauna to everyone, people will die of sauna. It's inevitable

[lime cobalt]

He is not decision maker tho

[warm garnet]

Did the winner expect that to happen i mean see ppl climbing mountains and they accept that there’s possibility where they might die im sure if he knew the ending he wouldn’t do it

[main bison]

It just shouldn't have happened

[turbid dome]

Everyone is preparing to clutch pearls and strategically forget what irony is.

It would be like if a fossil fuel billionaire died from climate change related issues

[high raven]

I agree, but he has given plenty of reasons to be disliked by Americans

[manic juniper]

The winner got hospitalised, the second place lost because he died. And yes they expected it

[uneven citrus]

That doesn't take away what he said , if he were to decide he'd most certainly choose that

[main bison]

Why would anyone with sane mind think he has the right to take away someone's life just because he doesn't like him?

[warm garnet]

Charlie said people should get shot because of their views? Ye sure

[turbid dome]

He fought against gun control which ensures people will get shot

[manic juniper]

Because it's bound to happen, if you give guns to everyone then people are going to die of gun related violence just because they are disliked or other petty reasons

Like I said, there aren't many countries where this is possible

[tender vessel]

Well, at least he said these deaths were "unfortunate".

[warm garnet]

If they 100% sure that they would be dead i don’t think they will do it….

[uneven citrus]

the irony

[main bison]

Okay well I disagree with that

[warm garnet]

Okay NOW SHOOT HIM IN THE FUCKIN NICK

[manic juniper]

Speaking for myself, if they told me that there was a chance I'd die but I could end up first I'd stay in the sauna

[turbid dome]

You think Charlie Kirk was pro gun control, or do you think gun control doesn’t save lives? Cause both are probably false

[warm garnet]

y guys are amazing

[turbid dome]

Reading has never been harder

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-its-about-sending-a-message-gif-11749480

[high raven]

Mourning the death of someone defending the death of school children while, coincidentally, there was a school shooting in the US is weird to me

[warm garnet]

Yk i meant neck for sure

[high raven]

Idk though I'm not American

[warm garnet]

Show me where Charlie said yes its okay for kids at school to die

[manic juniper]

We can mourn him after mourning one minute for all the victims of gun related violence in USA

[magic olive]

Welp, general is dead

[manic juniper]

One minute each

[turbid dome]

No I meant reading comprehension, not spelling

[lost flume]

Everyone’s here

[tender vessel]

This chat is literally exploding with messages.

[turbid dome]

For all time? Sure

[magic olive]

[warm garnet]

Yes cuz he was responsible for getting those people dead if charlie said the opposite shockingly there wont be any guns shooting anymore🤗

[main bison]

Ppl just love twisting the ppls words who don't like

[uneven citrus]

If we have to mourn for someone, it's for the people who got to see the event and their families, not for the man himself

[manic juniper]

We don't have enough minutes to mourn before the next school shooting happens I guess

[main bison]

If I say I don't like chocolate they're gonna view it as I'm racist because chocolate and black ppl share the same color

[uneven citrus]

bro's onto nothing

[manic juniper]

Think of all the people who never attacked anyone yet they promoted and instigated violence against other groups

[main bison]

That's how twisting words work duh

[manic juniper]

No one is without responsibilities

[turbid dome]

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

he literally said it’s worth it in order to keep the 2nd amendment

[main bison]

An no one deserves to die because of that

[manic juniper]

But sometimes it happens

[lost flume]

Come sit, it has just started

[high raven]

I'll send you the youtube video in a minute, every single search is directing to videos about his death. It was on a panel hosted by a TYT network if I remember correctly, where he said its worth to have deaths in the US to keep their second amendment

[uneven citrus]

umm it's clearly ai

[manic juniper]

How many countries where you can die just by not checking your shoes before wearing them?

[magic olive]

[main bison]

It shouldn't
We don't live in medieval area anymore

[high raven]

It's this one!

[uneven citrus]

it shouldn't yet it happens , welcome to the real world

[manic juniper]

Isn't your country's calendar in the European middle ages?

[tender vessel]

Nah, bro. It's not.

[high raven]

The only thing I'm mourning is the closing of our local bakery, I will no longer have access to freshly baked bread

[uneven citrus]

[turbid dome]

Sadly this will result in a surge of memes and then Charlie Kirk memes will slowly fade into obscurity

[high raven]

They were so good, I loved them

[manic juniper]

Wait, did he die in 9/11 or not?

I guess not

[turbid dome]

No it’s 9/10

[lost flume]

It was 9/10 in US so no

[uneven citrus]

nope

[turbid dome]

He died on 9/11 for you tho so hey

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[turbid dome]

9/11 we all mourn the overthrow of Allende and the Pinochet regime

[main bison]

So?

[manic juniper]

I celebrate the dictator with the funniest name

After Francisco Franco I guess

[turbid dome]

Gurbanguly Berdimuhamadow

[wary sun]

[manic juniper]

You said that we don't live in the middle ages, but if I moved to your country I would since I'm European

[main bison]

Erm

That's right

[uneven citrus]

no crumbs left

[turbid dome]

Owned in the marketplace of ideas

[manic juniper]

I can't get shot for this opinion

[wary sun]

Wait what

[turbid dome]

Next up to debate Me on why my wife left me

Everyone form a line and debate me

[manic juniper]

Some countries use a different calendar and the year isn't 2025

[high raven]

It actually made me sad because the workers there are so sweet and their product is amazing, but the rent here is insanely high and their turnaround must've been low

[turbid dome]

Woke liberal owned!

[manic juniper]

Some of them are effectively in the European middle ages

[wary sun]

They not with jesus

[manic juniper]

Their Jesus is a different character

[turbid dome]

They’re closer to Jesus by going back in time ig

[wary sun]

Its always sad when local businesses close

[manic juniper]

According to my calendar we are on year 12, soon to be 13

[wary sun]

https://tenor.com/view/maths-gif-24525141

Oh this is a huge gif

[warm garnet]

I saw the video that @turbid dome
Sent basicly hes looking at it as having cars and driving he said there will be sure death of cars but that doesnt mean we should ban it he says its the same for the second amendment there will be some casualties he thinks about it from logical point of view
Anyhow he thought there could be guards outside school like baseball games

[manic juniper]

I think we should ban or at least limit cars as well because they are very annoying

[wary sun]

Are we comparing a thing that is meant to be used for transportation to something that is meant to kill？

[manic juniper]

That's just because we didn't create a gun big enough to be used for both purposes

[high raven]

Guards cost money, the parents of children should be buying bullet proof vests, it's the parents fault if anything

[turbid dome]

Bro is jumping through hoops to justify it.

You asked where Charlie said it’s ok for kids at school to die, and the clip is him a week after a school shooting saying it is worth it for some kids at school to die in order to maintain an old piece of paper.

In other words it’s ok according to Charles

[wary sun]

In faaaaaaact we did. Rockets

[manic juniper]

No I'm talking about a gun, even a cannon

[wary sun]

Me soon i hope

[manic juniper]

Roads are so beautiful and wide without cars in them

And people have the freedom to walk wherever they want without the risk of getting hurt

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/space-x-gif-12084002

[turbid dome]

Also getting rid of cars is a good idea

Public transport

[high raven]

I remember seeing this live, it was amazing

[manic juniper]

The greatest producers of microplastics, the stupid tyres

[wary sun]

I mean yes technically rockets can be used to carry humans in space and they can also be used as weapons

[manic juniper]

It will always lead to release of microplastics

[warm garnet]

I think what he meant that deaths will occurs into these two events despite the reasons again im not in charge of the security defence of Charlie im just explaining what he meant i think

[manic juniper]

But they're not funny like sitting inside a giant bullet and getting shot towards another planet

[turbid dome]

Wait, you’re telling me that producing a ton of large expensive and resource heavy vehicles isn’t good for us?

What?

Who could’ve guessed

[wary sun]

I love the idea of a world with no cars.

[turbid dome]

They should be severely limited in use, should be the exception in most cases

[wary sun]

I mean get yourself a pool you might die from drowning

Same logic doesnt mean people wont get pools

Its a stupid comparison let's admit to it

[turbid dome]

“We need to protect the right to own killing machines”

[manic juniper]

Once you get a driving licence you realise why no one deserves to hold a driving licence

[wary sun]

We don't need to excuse every stupid sentence someone says and try to find a meaning

[turbid dome]

I don’t need a license to realize that 💀

[manic juniper]

It's directed towards car fans

[turbid dome]

Fair

[wary sun]

And tbh people get cars in America cause the public transport is dogshit

Something America did to its own people

[warm garnet]

He didn’t say some kids anyhow he talked about it generally he didn’t want to remove the second amendments he wants to solve it or reduce it without permanently removing the second amendments

[wary sun]

Thats why you have so many deaths on the road

[turbid dome]

And the public transportation is terrible because the automobile manufacturers lobbied the government so they could get more sales

[wary sun]

Exactly

@warm garnet you see I don't get you

[manic juniper]

What did he propose to solve it

[wary sun]

I dont get why you keep trying to excuse a shitty behaviour someone has and instead decide it's better to attack any valid point anyone makes.

[warm garnet]

School guards

[turbid dome]

This was in the context of him addressing a school shooting and arguing against any form of gun control

[turbid dome]

More guns in schools, when has this ever failed

[turbid dome]

If you read the article I linked it would explain this 😭

If only there was extensive research on whether “good guy with a gun” theory worked

[manic juniper]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
This doesn't even respect the second amendment, people shooting deers aren't part of a militia and this is a somewhat justifiable reason at least

[turbid dome]

Oh wait, it doesn’t and only adds more bullets to the crossfire, potentially increasing the carnage

[warm garnet]

Im having headache rn lets be honest for example there could be lots of right wings who would think of maybe bad choices right
I just think that they shouldn’t die yk

[wary sun]

Im really trying to understand your way of thinking and the way you try to excuse the shit peope are doing and saying and trying to side with their opinions to the point where you yourself show 0 empathy and logic.

[manic juniper]

Imagine all the other people keeping guns because...??? Shooty McShootson

[wary sun]

Sure that's fine. That's okay to feel. But doesn't mean you should not call them out on the bad stuff they say and do.

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s not even for broad gun ownership, it’s for the right for members of citizens militias to have weapons

[wary sun]

Its normal to think no one should die.

[warm garnet]

I mean to add to myself he never said it directly yes i want to have more guns and i want kids to die he wanted to protect the second amendments

[manic juniper]

Why yes, Cletus is trustworthy and well trained enough to become a potential militiaman

[warm garnet]

We could call them ofc

[turbid dome]

Also… I don’t give a shit about the constitution, it’s an outdated document made by slave owners who wanted to consolidate their own power

[warm garnet]

We call the bad things people done even after they die

[wary sun]

Only that he is talking about guns to kids and preaches about the 2nd amendment to kids?

[warm garnet]

He wasn’t talking about it as kids he was talking about it as rule in the us and it shouldn’t be band

[wary sun]

I don't know it's so weird when you try to excuse a guy who says what this guy is saying but you go against some of the people here that say exactly what yhat guy said too

[neon sierra]

I HATE SOCIAL MEDIA

NEWS ARE FORCED UPON US

[turbid dome]

Breaking: people in politics don’t say exactly what they mean, otherwise it would be politically infeasible.

If Charlie Kirk actually said what he believed he would say “I want arms manufacturers to be able to make more money, if your kids die I don’t care as long as arms companies make money off of it”

[manic juniper]

Social media are better than TV to be fair, anyone here remembers seeing TV news where they would show people getting beheaded by terrorists

[neon sierra]

no, but ive seen so many videos these years that ive developed anxiety towards that type of negative energy

[turbid dome]

There’s no profit in gun control, but distributing guns to teachers or guards? You’ll need to manufacture more guns for that

[manic juniper]

Barely or completely uncensored

[warm garnet]

No i just like when people talk to you about someone they maybe dont understand the meaning of what hes talking about or they intend to make it really seems bad so im just trying to make the views of him clear

[neon sierra]

😭

[lime cobalt]

Gun is not a new thing in america, why problem now ?

[warm garnet]

Btw im against guns in general

[neon sierra]

I do really care about whats happening in the world so I keep watching stuff

[warm garnet]

Having no guns at all is safer for everyone

[neon sierra]

But today i realised i gotta distance myself for my own well

[wary sun]

Like you keep saying he didn't deserve to die, but when we ask you about well he said others are worth being sacrifices for him to keep his 2nd amendment is exactly why he died you get mad at the people here. Both that guy and the people who are happy for what happened to him have the exact same mentality yet you only judge one side.

[manic juniper]

They are not that precise, they only control a massive laser on the Earth's orbit

[wary sun]

Exactly

[turbid dome]

Did you hack into Marjorie Taylor Greene’s computer to find this out

[manic juniper]

You will end up insane

[high raven]

I read a youtube comment that said that it couldn't have been a transexual that shot him because they're notoriously bad at being mass shooters

[manic juniper]

Watch animals instead

[turbid dome]

Is that why you like reptiles

[wary sun]

I do that sometimes. I only have these debates when I dont fully hate the world

[warm garnet]

But this isn’t about me and my views u get it i disagree with him but that doesn’t mean ill try to twist his words or anything

[turbid dome]

How many of these videos do you have

[turbid dome]

For various animals

[manic juniper]

Quite a few

[wary sun]

That is disturbingly cute

[turbid dome]

Send me a whole ton of them

When you get the chance

[warm garnet]

Im gonna pretend that exactly what he said okay and lets say the exact same logic that he made it happened to him btw that doesn’t mean the guy killed him for that reason though but anyway i just felt like we shouldn’t punish him this way

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[manic juniper]

The guy could've been a time traveller who knew a lot more than we do and thus prevented a lot more atrocities

[thorny steeple]

Who are you talking about?

[turbid dome]

We don’t know yet

[high raven]

Are you from India?

[thorny steeple]

Your pfp guy is not the richest man anymore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1219377345702395915/1278785553839427625/kek.gif

[thorny steeple]

Im not from india but my ethnicity is indian

[wary sun]

Your pfp

[thorny steeple]

Yea its larry

[tender vessel]

Honestly, I think we should divert our focus to someone who deserves more empathy and was actually innocent, like the Palestinian people being killed 24/7 or Iryna Zarutska who was recently been brutally killed for absolutely no reason.

[thorny steeple]

You're pfp is great!

[wary sun]

I gave up on that discussion or any with them.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-joe-impractical-jokers-gif-9738941

[wary sun]

I wanna be nice and say yours too but like it's musk

But you seem like a nice person!

[thorny steeple]

Haha controversial

[wary sun]

Imma compliment ya instead

[thorny steeple]

Well, you're too. :))

[tender vessel]

Imagine riding a bus and suddenly the passenger behind you start stabbing you without any reason whatsoever. What's even more shocking is that people literally watched her being stabbed and only 3 guys starting taking action when it was too late.
What a mad world we live in.

[thorny steeple]

That's horrible

[wary sun]

I mean again America and the prison system and most countries and the prison system. I heard there is a british idiot collecting money to put that psychopath out of prison

[wary sun]

What do you even do? I feel like the shock to witness that.

Like I feel like I'd freeze for a few seconds at least

[high raven]

Ooh I see, I was going to ask JEE or NEET 😭

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, I heard about that fundraiser too.

[manic juniper]

Neutralise the guy and then rescue her

[thorny steeple]

I did gave bro in 2024 I scored like 701

[wary sun]

I think it could've been anyone

New fear unlocked now...

[thorny steeple]

Jee air like 700

[high raven]

Which rank is that? I forgot how the ranking system works

[thorny steeple]

Out of 720 i scored 701

And all india rank around 700 ish

[tender vessel]

If there was any hope in the American society, you would've seen other passengers rushing at the girl as she was bleeding in horror.
If that would to happen in Egypt where I live, I assure you that not only would passengers rush to help, but that perpetrator wouldn't get out alive.

[thorny steeple]

In jee

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, it really shows how different societies react in moments like that. People freezing instead of helping is just heartbreaking

[high raven]

That's a really good score

[thorny steeple]

Thx :pp

[wary sun]

You see I get you. But I also don't know what the people who witnessed that have going on in ther lives. I for example have hemophobia. We could all find ourselves being bystanders one time. I didn't watch the attack for more than the first 2 3 seconds because of the blood.

[formal pilot]

Slap me thrice and hand me to my mother

[manic juniper]

Man barges in once the discussion is over and missing the whole fun

[high raven]

Are you scared at the sight of any blood?

[manic juniper]

[wary sun]

Depending on how much blood there is. I do start to shake and sweat from the panic

It depends a lot on the amount of blood if the wound is open

[manic juniper]

What if it's cephalopod blood

[thorny steeple]

It also happens to my sister sometimes its oke

[wary sun]

Ugh I don't know lol

[high raven]

I don't mind blood in general, but I almost vomit if I see my own blood being drawn

[manic juniper]

It looks blue

[wary sun]

Its mainly human blood

[formal pilot]

It's 6 am, I just woke up

[thorny steeple]

Its good you're not med student!

[manic juniper]

Scroll up for some insane takes

[formal pilot]

Oml i missed the fun ffs

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[wary sun]

I usually dont look. Last time i had a blood test they messed up my arm to the point it looked like someone punched me in it

[high raven]

I didn't choose to study medicine because I'm somewhat selfish and don't go out of my own way to help people

I wouldn't be a good medicinal doctor

[wary sun]

I can't start that over

[thorny steeple]

If you don't mind whats you're major?

[wary sun]

That's not selfish, you're fine. You should live for yourself first. Helping people comes naturally

[high raven]

Applied statistics

[thorny steeple]

That's nice!

[high raven]

I'm not supposed to look either but I still do😭

[manic juniper]

Is it true that 66% of the statistics are about reptiles?

[high raven]

That's 100% true

[wary sun]

Where do you get your questions from?

Love them

[manic juniper]

My brain was destroyed in a war years ago and it was replaced with a coffee machine motherboard since then, I come up with dumb thoughts but I also make the best coffee now

[high raven]

I actually wanted a pet snake as a child but my mother wouldn't allow it, I had to settle for an axolotl

[wary sun]

I think they're brilliant. No one asked me of I'm scared of blue blood ever.

[thorny steeple]

Which type of coffee?

[wary sun]

Asking for a friend?

[manic juniper]

It's like the tarantula of amphibians, literally sits still and does nothing

[tender vessel]

I would excuse women or girls riding, they'd mostly be in a screaming shock at such incident, but there were men riding the bus. I don't excuse any man who didn't immediately take action.

[thorny steeple]

No i love to drink cappuccino

[manic juniper]

Wait until you find out that there are other colours to be scared of and some of them are toxic

[tender vessel]

You're late to the party.

[manic juniper]

I like making espresso

[high raven]

He did nothing, but he did it while looking cute for 11 years