🧠｜serious-chat

[tiny apex]

I think he’s trying to get familiar with your mother I’d be worried

[high raven]

Going back to the initial claim, isn't incest more common, in general, in poorer countries?

[tiny apex]

No it’s not in atheism? What?

[turbid dome]

In Arkansas we have stand your ground laws

[turbid dome]

Yes

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/if-those-kids-could-read-gif-5323175107042953208

[severe burrow]

So you are saying morality is subjective and bounded by emotions. Is it OK if I murder your parents of my moral values are bounded by emotions of hatred against your family?

[high raven]

I'm saving that one to use in another server, it will be very useful

[tiny apex]

Also child marriage, marital sa literally pretty much every statutory crime and sex crime is higher

[turbid dome]

Some people here need to be banned so they can attend preschool

[hybrid herald]

Finally perms back

[hybrid herald]

💯

[severe burrow]

Oo is it moral to sleep with your parents?

[tiny apex]

Priest where specifically are you from?

[formal pilot]

I copy pasted yours, my gif search section is buffering

[hybrid herald]

Oh wait

[tiny apex]

I just want to know why you think that this is something we should debate about like anyone with a brain isn’t agreeing with you

[hybrid herald]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-spit-gif-26415294

That one
useful

[high raven]

This is relevant, if you're poor, you won't be able to monitor and police

[formal pilot]

Sure, but you'll get punished in my country, I don't know about your country, I'm not familiar with every single 3rd world countries yk

[turbid dome]

Open the schools

No child left behind was a mistake we need to leave children behind

[hybrid herald]

Useful

[severe burrow]

So you are saying you are intellectual molested to answer a simple question? 🤔

[tiny apex]

Leave the idiots behind I have one in mind already

[tiny apex]

Intellectually molested?

[turbid dome]

Damn it George W

[tiny apex]

I just want to know where this leads to regardless what is your point?

[formal pilot]

Anyway if we look at data, poor countries are doing badly and this statement is laughable

[hybrid herald]

Priest rn

[severe burrow]

If it's moral because it's grounded by emotions why the hell I would get punished?

[hybrid herald]

Not a safe place

[formal pilot]

In poor countries only men walk around naked

With skinny fat body

[tiny apex]

You got poor countries with people who think they’re at the same intellectual level as people who actually have the knowledge lmao

[hybrid herald]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-spit-gif-26415294

(I don't have nitro)

[severe burrow]

@formal pilot is it not?

[tiny apex]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-tuah-hawktuah-hawktuahgirl-gif-15405851352260155169

Did I send the right emoji

[formal pilot]

Because laws are made of the collective morality of a country, you might think murdering someone is moral, but masses don't think that way, that's why you're irrelevant and insignificant

[severe burrow]

It's a simple question, is it moral or immoral

[formal pilot]

I thought you knew how laws are made, aren't you in 20s?

[turbid dome]

This is an adult?

That’s scary

[tiny apex]

It’s immoral but what does that have to do with atheism?

[severe burrow]

If mass amt of people say murder is moral.. you would agree that it's moral because majority of the people say so?

[tiny apex]

He’s a liar I so highly doubt it

[formal pilot]

Being stupid isn't limited to poor countries only lol, administration is generally better in rich countries

[hybrid herald]

Ngl that's right, corruption level is high so they do what they want

[formal pilot]

It would be legal in a country, personally I would say it's immoral

[tiny apex]

I agree just that lack of education and lack of enforcement of educating leads many to be less educated than those in 1st world countries

[severe burrow]

You are calling me stupid but how I'm dragging you on discord and can't even break any of my statements cause you are weak

[tiny apex]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

I want what you’re smoking

[hybrid herald]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ishowmeat-funny-laugh-gif-3834932356741800396

[formal pilot]

How did you read my mind? I don't remember calling you stupid here in texts

[severe burrow]

Now there you go personally you say it's immoral. But the majority of the people say it's moral, hence I would not get punished. Now you proved that it's OK to kill your parents because majority of the people allowed so

[tiny apex]

Bro what is your point already?

[turbid dome]

They’re incapable of making anything that follows a logical point

[formal pilot]

But it's illegal in my country, masses think it's immoral

[severe burrow]

The point is atheism is cooked and if you are an atheist, you would get cooked by people like Me everyday

[tiny apex]

I can tell it’s just the nonsensical ramblings of and I mean this with all honesty a fool

[formal pilot]

I completely agree with you

[severe burrow]

And it's illegal because majority of the people say so? And if the majority of the people say it's moral, you would have to say it's OK to kill my parents 🙂

[formal pilot]

I would personally consider it immoral therefore you'll face consequences

[tiny apex]

I’m beyond dumbfounded at what you’re saying right now 😭😭 where is this set of rules or code of ethics for atheists that you’re reading? No group of atheists or agnostics have said anything like what you’re saying

[turbid dome]

Either it’s intentional trolling, or they’re so hopeless they should be banned so they can go to school

[high raven]

Can you remove the cross from your name

[formal pilot]

@worldly elbow give me permission to use racial slurs

[severe burrow]

If the majority of the people say r_pray is good, you would have to agree with that them.

But you are not majority so why should we care about if?

[turbid dome]

I don’t have a particularly high opinion of religion but I agree, this is insulting to Christianity

[hybrid herald]

I agree

[formal pilot]

Personally I would consider it immoral

[high raven]

He's indirectly ruining my Discord reputation

[tiny apex]

At the most this is a 12 year old who gets kicks out of saying random nonsense to get people to talk to them because of a lack of communication otherwise

[severe burrow]

Ohh let me test you, how do you know murder is immoral?

[severe burrow]

What's wrong with that?

[turbid dome]

No don’t worry it’s hard to even call them Christian, because at least you need a little bit of reading comprehension to read the Bible

[tiny apex]

Because taking the life of another human being prematurely is something that is unnatural and wrong and I don’t need religion to tell me that

[hybrid herald]

Ayo Aladdin

[turbid dome]

Maybe the only person in the world Joe Biden could beat in a debate

[severe burrow]

It's unnatural and wrong? How did you know it's unnatural and wrong.. cause I see it as natural cause people kill eachother and even animals do that.. so how it's innatural? The part you said wrong* what's wrong about it?

[tiny apex]

Animals do it to have food to eat there’s literally no reason at all for me to go and kill another human being unless out of necessity which isn’t murder

Plus animals don’t even function the same as we do? Have you ever gone to school ever?

[fresh flower]

Be nice to each other or else I unleash Mein Kraft

[formal pilot]

Leviticus 20:13

[solemn frost]

Leviticus 20:13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<13> If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.

BibleBot v12.1.1 by Kerygma Digital

[hybrid herald]

Olly olly olly chat alive without u

[severe burrow]

How come

[turbid dome]

Unleash the Minecraft we need enforcement

[formal pilot]

Some folks can justify murder

[fresh flower]

I'm going to work bro 😞😓😩

[tiny apex]

Can you just nuke the planet please save us all

[hybrid herald]

God be with you

[formal pilot]

I remember placing it in the Self Help section of the Airport library, for the vibes lol

(true event)

[turbid dome]

Better than placing a “history of 9/11/2001” book on an airport library shelf under “how to”

[tiny apex]

You could’ve created a life changing event for somebody lmao

[formal pilot]

I've never seen a "how to" section

[turbid dome]

Like full of recipe books, instruction manuals, etc

[severe burrow]

There are lots of reasons like hatred. Envy. Animals also kill other animals not just for food but also for hatred like A lion kills the cups of wild cats.

[severe burrow]

Don't you believe in evolution?

[turbid dome]

Idk if it’s called how to tho

[severe burrow]

See you are not even a Christian

[high raven]

People might confuse you with being a Christian

[high raven]

😭😭😭

[tiny apex]

They’re wild animals they act on instinct plus killing out of hatred isn’t a valid excuse 😭 are you trying to tell us you’re going to do something?

[high raven]

If I remember correctly, you called me a Muslim twice, which is it this time?

[tiny apex]

What does evolution have to do with moral principle? Humans = wild animals? 😂 please get educated

[turbid dome]

Bro would’ve nailed Jesus to the cross because Jesus didn’t yell at a prostitute about how immoral they were

[severe burrow]

But I'm confusing that you are a Christian. You were acting like a Muslim, and now you are acting like an atheist. It seems you are liberals who keeps changing her colors

[turbid dome]

Shinto-Buddhist

[tiny apex]

He flip flops depending on what belief he hates on the day

[severe burrow]

Why not it's valid, what's wrong with that?

[high raven]

I'm intrigued, how did I "act like a Muslim"?

[tiny apex]

Defending any religion makes you that religion I guess 🙄

[severe burrow]

Education abt?

[marsh rune]

hi

[severe burrow]

Now you are an atheist

[tiny apex]

No it’s not? I might actually be talking to a fetus right now there’s no way you’re a Christian if you believe killing based on hatred is valid

[severe burrow]

not true at all

[severe burrow]

Why not it's valid, what's wrong?

[tiny apex]

I mean you hate every religion except Christianity but mostly Islam

[hybrid herald]

There's a button called "block"

[high raven]

Yes, I understood the second part, that I'm now supposedly an atheist. But how was I acting like a Muslim?

[severe burrow]

Yes, what's wrong?

[hybrid herald]

Read his pronouns to understand that hate

[turbid dome]

Squeezing blood from a stone is impossible

[tiny apex]

Basic biology, sociology, psychology would be some good starts

[severe burrow]

So you are an athiest? What's wrong if someone forcefully kiss you?

[high raven]

[tiny apex]

Attention seeking extraordinaire 😭😭😭

[hybrid herald]

Frfr

[high raven]

Are you unable to answer the question?

[turbid dome]

Bro is obsessed with women’s bodies

[severe burrow]

How does it help you?

[tiny apex]

What’s wrong with being bigoted and hateful? Gee I just don’t know 🙄

[severe burrow]

I'm asking you a question.. what's wrong with someone forcefully kisses you cause you are an athiest right?

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-12993999557818669691

[severe burrow]

Asking question is obsessed lol 😆

[tiny apex]

You can tell he has some hatred or bad experience with women that causes him to be extra critical I’m calling it now

[tiny apex]

Look up those subjects it’s self explanatory

[severe burrow]

Yes women are bad

[turbid dome]

The classic cycle of 1) act repulsive to every demographic 2) get hated 3) couldn’t be my fault, these women just hate me!

[high raven]

I forgot to say bismallah before eating my apple

[severe burrow]

How does it?

[tiny apex]

Psychology class paid off 😂

[severe burrow]

How does it help here?

[tiny apex]

Now I understand everything about you completely you need to go to therapy

[severe burrow]

How they are good?

[turbid dome]

Bro wants to debate why he thinks women are bad 💀

Enjoy being lonely

[tiny apex]

I can tell you’re very negative and critical because you’re sad about the fact that you haven’t been so well received in life and now you sit here debating people who don’t know you nor are friends with you

[severe burrow]

They aren't bad?

[tiny apex]

And feeling like you’re winning at a debate gives you that control that you seek so desperately

[turbid dome]

Unfortunately, the only way to feel like you’re winning is to go into an alternate reality 😭

[severe burrow]

Is this psychology? 🤔

[severe burrow]

Because I got high iq

[tiny apex]

Reality is what it is, instead of arguing here what you should do and I mean this seriously go focus on your betterment

[severe burrow]

khuhu

[molten dagger]

agree cat

[tiny apex]

Why thank you

[severe burrow]

I'm better.. what makes you think I'm bad?

[formal pilot]

You must be American

[tiny apex]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[formal pilot]

Day 7 of not getting ragebaited

[tiny apex]

Go self reflect priest you don’t need me to because frankly I have no idea who you are

[turbid dome]

Yes I am, I don’t actually pay attention to to library section names because the public library here is sort of bad and useless, I go to the bookstore instead, and I have the layout memorized

[tiny apex]

I have a life to get to I hope you do that too

[turbid dome]

So I don’t look at signs

[severe burrow]

@high raven cause you are saying Islamic God is a Christian God

[fresh flower]

No way

[severe burrow]

How come?

[fresh flower]

Is bro beefing with Sanna about Christianity 💀💀💀💀

Bro barking up the wrong tree

[formal pilot]

He should curse the fig tree

[severe burrow]

I'm tho.. what makes you think I ain't 🤔

[turbid dome]

Yes, I’m about to go become an orthodox Christian just so I can partake in certain Byzantine rituals at this point

[shell hemlock]

Who is this guy

[severe burrow]

Who?

[formal pilot]

Reincarnation of lord lmknot

[turbid dome]

We need reptiles now more than ever

[shell hemlock]

Why are you having Hadith in your pronouns but you have the Christian cross in your name

[high raven]

The funny thing is that I didn't, you did. I asked you twice if you actually meant that, and you repeatedly said yes

[severe burrow]

Cause it's funny hadith.. Read it

[molten dagger]

i agree because god in aramaic (jesus language) is alla/allaha

[hybrid herald]

Js read ur bible and shush

[shell hemlock]

So you are just a Christian who knows nothing about Hadith

[severe burrow]

When did I

[tiny apex]

Bro only learns specific hadiths for debates 😭😭 are we serious

[severe burrow]

So Allah is the same God as Christians' God?

[formal pilot]

According to Muslims yes, according to Christians, No

[severe burrow]

You wanna debate? Here is that hadith khyah

[severe burrow]

Not that one

[molten dagger]

religion and politics always

[hybrid herald]

Fr

[severe burrow]

@high raven so you are a Muslim and an athiest?

[molten dagger]

there are lots proof in bible both have same god

[high raven]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[severe burrow]

Such as?

[shell hemlock]

Yes where is the funny part in this Hadith

[feral river]

The truth behind the story was the final explanation right was on people who understand the script which is very different

[turbid dome]

Mormons 😭😭😭😭

[hybrid herald]

Like Bukhari got more than 10000 in his book

[severe burrow]

How does it support your case

[shell hemlock]

There is only one God

[turbid dome]

Tengriiiiii

[high raven]

You can call me anything you'd like, it doesn't change anything

[hybrid herald]

Dang the second dumb appeared

[severe burrow]

The funny part is Abu jahl put camel's intestine on Muhammad's back khuyshj

[feral river]

You can use any script to justify something that is encouraged for somebody’s interest

[turbid dome]

Orthodox Christian vs Christian larper

[severe burrow]

So what are you? Muslim or an athiest?

[feral river]

That’s why our right wing asshs love use religion and encourage people to believe more from it, that only protect the interest of our capitalists and bureaucrats

[severe burrow]

Are you a Muslim?

[feral river]

If you little bro folks started to think about your own issues, our exploitation on these guys was justified

[molten dagger]

Deuteronomy 6:4, a foundational verse known as the Shema, states: "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one"

[solemn frost]

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<4>" Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord;

BibleBot v12.1.1 by Kerygma Digital

[feral river]

I’m sorry even at modern society, class struggle still exists

[severe burrow]

How does it support your case

[high raven]

You know what I am, I've told you several times 😭

[severe burrow]

Nope you didn't. What are you 🙂 🙂

[molten dagger]

the lord is one but christian said 3

[turbid dome]

Bad gaslighting attempt

[severe burrow]

Define what Lord is

[glossy radish]

we support akenny

[shell hemlock]

Imagine being a Christian and asking people who your Lord is

[severe burrow]

How come

[shell hemlock]

🤣🤣🤣

[glossy radish]

[turbid dome]

“Explain to me how I’m trolling”

No thanks, I value my time

[high raven]

Are you being obtuse on purpose, or are you mistaking me, occasionally calling you out for me being a Muslim?

[tiny apex]

That’s how you can tell he’s not a Christian lmao 😭

[severe burrow]

It's a question to define 🤔

[shell hemlock]

Allahu Akbar

[glossy radish]

ye

[glossy radish]

🗣️

[severe burrow]

?

[tiny apex]

How you can question everyone else’s faith is truly beyond me do you even know what you are priest

[severe burrow]

It's a question

[turbid dome]

Basic Marxist analysis is lost on people these days

[severe burrow]

Ohh you are a Muslim?

[feral river]

Not a huge problem, if they feel rested we got the chance to take over them

[severe burrow]

Imma cook you

[shell hemlock]

😂😂😂

[high raven]

I'll be nice, I'm Syriac Orthodox

[feral river]

Like me I’m a middle class if people embrace a little bit more right wing shit like religion I would get more business opportunity

[severe burrow]

Yes.. are you a Muslim?

[tiny apex]

You aren’t cooking anything please go back to preschool

[molten dagger]

the one, the eternal,He begets not, nor was He begotten and theres non comparable with him.

[feral river]

I mean why not

[shell hemlock]

How can you ‘cook’ me if you do not even know who your own God is

[tiny apex]

Are you a Christian?

[hybrid herald]

Obvious

[feral river]

I’m the higher class I don’t give a fuck

[turbid dome]

I don’t believe a preschool teacher could be so bad, clearly hasn’t started it yet

[high raven]

You reminded me that I once signed up to become an ordained priest from an online church

[tiny apex]

We’re talking to a fetus like I said

[severe burrow]

Ooh so you were not being nice... what makes thing Islamic God is identical to Christian God?

[tiny apex]

You? Went well?

[hybrid herald]

What did i do to get that

[turbid dome]

I really hate kids, please don’t insult fetuses tho it feels rude to compare

[severe burrow]

Define begotten

[tiny apex]

What I meant was a baby donkey because there’s a dumbass present

[severe burrow]

Ohh lemme ask you a question 😏

[turbid dome]

Don’t insult dumbasses

😭

[shell hemlock]

No thank you, from the time that I come into this chat to the current conversation we are having right now you are just saying a lot of nothingness

“Define what a Lord is”
“Are you a Christian or an atheist”
“I’m just asking a question”

[severe burrow]

Such as? 🤨

[shell hemlock]

Again with the question

[severe burrow]

So you can't define what the Lord is?

[tiny apex]

He’ll go in circles let’s all just leave it be

[high raven]

I guess you could say that (Anyone can do this)😭

[molten dagger]

typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.

[tiny apex]

Pretty great though! Good on you (even if everyone can do it) you’re one of them and that’s something to be happy about

[severe burrow]

And what is eternal begotten?

[high raven]

Those aren't the same, which is what I was telling you. You might be confusing common linguistics with liturgy

[molten dagger]

idk whats ur point

[severe burrow]

But once you were arguing they are. So fast changing minds eeeh

[severe burrow]

Does the Quran eternally generates from the essence of Allah?

[high raven]

Once when?

[severe burrow]

Just an hour ago 🙂

[feral river]

Just realized, debate God on internet in China is prohibited

If you debate religion in Chinese internet you get yourself imprisoned very swiftly

[high raven]

I already sent you the link to our conversation if you'd like to read it again

[feral river]

That’s highly treason and disrupting the social order

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-zen-meditation-gif-13277341

[shell hemlock]

Lessons one, do not argue with a condescending Christian

[feral river]

What a wise choice to make these people s*fu

[high raven]

Just by debating or by insulting?

[feral river]

Debating

You are free to insult or criticize any God

[severe burrow]

Ooh now you don't believe Islamic God is identical with Christian God?

[feral river]

That’s fine, but debate for it, no

[shell hemlock]

Do Chinese mainlanders mostly do Taoist practice or

[severe burrow]

Aww leally?

[high raven]

Are you imagining conversations that didn't take place?

[turbid dome]

Unironically things like this make me debate the ends vs the means, the ends I agree with, the means I don’t

[feral river]

Taoism was a lot different than other religion

[turbid dome]

Yes

[feral river]

Basically Satanism

[severe burrow]

I think you forgot. As a Christian, do you think athiesm is based?

[shell hemlock]

Do they like burn papers and stuff like that because I’ve read about it and my household is Buddhist-Taoist

[feral river]

And Taoism also somehow encourage more questioning and rational thinking than belief

我命由我不由天

[high raven]

Can you do me a favour? Totally unrelated, but can you check your oven for gas leaks?

[feral river]

my fate is decided by me, not the sky (God)

[severe burrow]

So what is Lord?

[feral river]

From taoism

Lmfao

[shell hemlock]

Interesting

[turbid dome]

also check if your paint is made of lead

[severe burrow]

Didn't answer my question, is athiesm based? Because when I was talking to athiests and beating athiesm.. you were getting angry

[feral river]

Taoism consider there are 3 dimensions, one is heaven one is hell and the other one was human dimension

[high raven]

Super important

[feral river]

But 3 has very close connection with each other ofc

[high raven]

Can you show me where I did that?

[feral river]

And if you died you would go to hell

[shell hemlock]

He is the all knowing, all hearing, He is perfect

I don’t know what your argument is since you are just here asking questions instead of making any points

[feral river]

The only way to go to heaven was you would win the struggle of the God election

So you can be God

And by that which was defined by money, and power

Which provides the some level of legitimacy to monarchy but also encourage people to be their own

[shell hemlock]

[feral river]

Because everybody could use their struggle to practice for win the election, there’s no uniform of practice

You can say you are peeing at the tree was your way to win the struggle

That’s Taoism

[shell hemlock]

Oh my

[severe burrow]

Ooh you were saying I gotta throw my cross, cause I'm shaming Christianity 😶‍🌫️

[severe burrow]

Is All knowing identical to him?

[feral river]

Also other religion would recruit people but Taoism never

Taoism never have any propaganda because they simply don’t encourage people to join compete against their struggle to heaven

[high raven]

Ooh yes, I wasn't mad though. And I didn't tell you to throw it, I asked if you could remove it from your name

[turbid dome]

Anyways goodnight

[severe burrow]

Why should I

🙂 🤷

[feral river]

and because of their special attributives, our dynasties barely crack down on Taoism some making few compromise to Taoists and even at now the Communist Party listed Taoism one of the top 5 religion

even Taoism was the most powerful religion by executive power and rights

[shell hemlock]

Is it like Buddhism where it’s more of a philosophical kind of belief ?

[feral river]

compared with others, Islam was brutally suppressed, Christianity was limited to only few cities where historical heritage exists

[high raven]

Well, you don't have to, anyone can have their own name. I was just saying that because you were spewing incoherent ramblings, sexist remarks, and unfounded Islamophobia under the guise of self-proclaimed Christianity

[severe burrow]

Not so.

Is Allah identical to all knowing?

[high raven]

It's just misleading

[feral river]

Buddhism was limited their active space, and every buddist temple there must be one Chinese flag exists which buddists hate it so much

[severe burrow]

How come it's bad?

[feral river]

Orthodox only exists in former Manchuria region and most was prohibited for people to practice but opened for other foreign officials

[severe burrow]

Which part was incoherent

[feral river]

like Putin last time he come to China he went to one Orthodox church in Harbin

[high raven]

Because people might confuse you with an actual Christian voicing actual Christian opinions

[shell hemlock]

Allah is the all knowing

He has many names

[severe burrow]

So I sound like a fake Christian?

[feral river]

only Taoism was free to practice, free to create their business like "test your fate" which is very popular in here and legal

[severe burrow]

Is All knowing an attribute or it's a mere name?

[high raven]

That's not what I said, your faith is yours, spewing hatred under the guise of Christianity is a different matter

[severe burrow]

How is that hate?

🤔

[severe burrow]

Which part I expressed was rooted with hatred?

[feral river]

it's not buddhism at all, it's just like a special kind of philosophy that make people recognize how the power relating to each other and how they would find their life from it

I'm not a Taoist, but I'm very into Taoism because it was quite fitting my values

[high raven]

If you don't already see sexist remarks and unfounded Islamophobia as hatred then I'm not sure how to explain it to you

[severe burrow]

Show me which part and how it's rooted with hatred?

[high raven]

I'm not opposed to hating on Islam by the way, just make sure that it's based on something tangible

[severe burrow]

So you appreciate islam?

[high raven]

Read that sentence again

[severe burrow]

I did. Where did I express hatred and how 🤔

[feral river]

my address on religion was very clear

[slender coral]

She doesn't oppose that people hate Islam

But do it for good reasons

[feral river]

Religion is a tool that was created by authorities to indoctrinate people to work the way for fitting their own interest

nothing beyond this point

[severe burrow]

It seems you have no idea but just tryna hate me

[formal pilot]

I disagree

[severe burrow]

There a lot good reasons

[feral river]

the world doesn't work as what you explain, the world works as their own way of working

you can't say Jesus Christ by stop a flying bullet

[formal pilot]

John 11:35

[solemn frost]

John 11:35 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<35> Jesus wept.

BibleBot v12.1.1 by Kerygma Digital

[slender coral]

When did that happen?

[formal pilot]

yes

[slender coral]

I didn't read the full conversation btw what did I miss?

[high raven]

Which one of them? It has been going on for a while😭

[feral river]

found the reason why Islam was brutally suppressed in China a long while ago

that's quite wise choice in our country

Salute to General Secretary 🇨🇳 Xi Jinping

[high raven]

Can you tell him to increase funding for Deyiwei

[severe burrow]

Which is? 🙂

[slender coral]

It's not about asking who the lord is. In philosophical discussions, you need to make sure that you and the other side agree on the some definitions and positions of some stuff before moving to discuss the disputed points so the discussion can be constructive. It would be meaningless if each side just bark their views randomly at the other.

[slender coral]

Both

[feral river]

why

btw what's Deyiwei I'm confused lol

[shell hemlock]

Obviously he is provoking something, he keeps asking question and as Muslims we don’t ask unnecessary questions that are asked out of disrespect

[thorny steeple]

Same what's this Deyiwei lmao

[formal pilot]

Hail CCP

[severe burrow]

Asking what do you mean by the Lord is provoking eeh?

[shell hemlock]

You know what you are doing

[severe burrow]

What 🤔

[high raven]

I just googled and they sadly got absorbed into YMTC. They were a domestic NVMe SSD manufacturer in China, they would've done great globally with cheaper, and faster, storages

[slender coral]

You guys don't like questions generally
I got yelled at before for asking questions to sheikhs. Religious discourse is just not a thing in your societies, it's either banned by law or people are too sensitive to be involved in it. Idk about your conversation with Priest because I haven't read it but your attitude gives me flashbacks

[feral river]

oh jesus

[severe burrow]

[thorny steeple]

A major loss for the cheaper nvme market then?

[feral river]

I had 2 NVMe SSD drive in my pc

[severe burrow]

Yea she was pretty arrogant 😅

[feral river]

this PC was trash

[severe burrow]

[thorny steeple]

Quite the specs 652.

[shell hemlock]

My ‘attitude’s gives you flashbacks ? So you have just replied to my message before reading the whole conversation so you can join in on provoking on a subject that you disagree on

This is why I don’t want to engage in a discussion with you Debil

[high raven]

Definitely! $/GB is very important, and third-party companies, like domestic Chinese, coming in and lowering that cost is great for consumers

[thorny steeple]

Then have you upgraded it?

[severe burrow]

There you go

[feral river]

that's a lot cheaper even domestically

[shell hemlock]

You make general assumptions and claim you got yelled at which I don’t know about you but maybe you did the same by asking a question to a sheikh out of disrespect

[feral river]

for export version we still take very high profit margin

[high raven]

Same here! 3tb on my pc, my NAS has four 16tb HDD though

[severe burrow]

You are do rude calling people debil

[thorny steeple]

Yeah now they're cooked in money savings

[feral river]

40 USD for 1TB

[shell hemlock]

That is their username

[thorny steeple]

That's the highest you can you go on storage?

[shell hemlock]

Is this taobao ?

[feral river]

yeah Taobao

we also have Jingdong and Pinduoduo other platforms

[high raven]

I'm not rooting through your messages just to answer questions you already know the answers to. You're free to continue with unfounded Islamophobia or sexist remarks, I'm just letting you know that actual Christians don't appreciate you using that to justify it

[severe burrow]

Thats just a question, but you seem not to engage in reasons and in philosophical discussions

[feral river]

this was a common one

Amazon was prohibited in China

[thorny steeple]

Deal breaker if it's truly 1T

[slender coral]

Everyone makes assumptions about stuff y'know, but if you approach me with good faith you would've taken the time to clarify that you weren't in the wrong here.
Yet you took the easy way out.

[feral river]

well you simply can't ship your good staright into China through Amazon lol

[shell hemlock]

Interesting I thought Chinese mainlanders would use smth else since over here we use taobao for overseas shipping

[feral river]

it is true

[severe burrow]

That just athiesm and islam. Nothing hatred

[high raven]

On my NAS? No, I can go much, much higher, I don't have a reason to upgrade though, not yet

[feral river]

Taobao was originally Chinese what do you thinking dude

[thorny steeple]

Aight and what be the maximum storage for the nas?

[feral river]

we also use it

[high raven]

You can call me atheist or Muslim as an insult all you want, just don't call yourself a Christian

[severe burrow]

Blah

[slender coral]

bruh what @severe burrow 💀

[severe burrow]

It's a question not an insult.

Don't call yourself a Christian what do you mean

[thorny steeple]

How's taobao like is it like the Chinese version of Amazon

[severe burrow]

Oo he's trolling 🧌

[slender coral]

Not Islamphobia nor sexism but that's crazy

[feral river]

We had tons of them

[slender coral]

You were just kidding you mean?

[severe burrow]

Ye Sanaa false accusing me

[severe burrow]

No Saana was

[high raven]

The maximum is 180 terabytes, which is far too much and beyond what I'd ever need

[thorny steeple]

Well that's healthy market then?

[feral river]

only 30 USD on Pinduoduo

[thorny steeple]

Definitely too much ngl

[feral river]

for 1T

[high raven]

This would've been amazing if it was PCIe 5.0

[feral river]

it's 4.0

this was 5.0 but a lot expensive

around 70-80 USD ?

[shell hemlock]

Yeah tbh I forgot you guys don’t have to wait weeks to get your stuff cuz you literally live where the factory is

[thorny steeple]

Wait PCIe 5.0? I need context lmao

[high raven]

They'll just get better and cheaper in the coming years for you guys

[shell hemlock]

Now you cannot react to my message

Allahu Akbar

[feral river]

3 days in mainland

if I live where the factory is, I can receive it in a day

but I don't so they ship to everywhere in the mainland mostly from Shenzhen to everywhere else

and it takes 3 days besides if you live in Xinjiang you would wait for a week

[thorny steeple]

Definitely gotta love when technology prices decapitated over time

[feral river]

from my region like I live in Jinan city which is quite north and it takes 3 days from the southest point of China to my place

[shell hemlock]

Where is the factory anyway

[high raven]

Very nerdy but, PCIe is the connection interface that lets parts in your computer communicate with the CPU, think of it like a road that data can travel on. PCIe 3.0 allows a maximum of 1 GB/s, 4.0 allows 2 GB/s, wheras 5.0 (The latest) allows 4 GB/s

[shell hemlock]

I love taobao lol they literally have everything and anything, also cheap

[thorny steeple]

Aight so the latest is 4.0/5.0?

[thorny steeple]

So two major factories?

[slender coral]

@severe burrow do you understand Arabic?

I've got something interesting to show u

[feral river]

no it's the shipping route if I buy a stuff from Shenzhen and it will take 3 days to my place

factories exists every city

[high raven]

The latest is 5.0. The upgrade, 6.0, with transfer speeds of up to 8 GB/s is supposed to come out around 2030, but it seems more and more likely that China will develop it first

[thorny steeple]

Damn, That's Nice. Here it takes more than 3 days depending on what type of shipping you're doing

[feral river]

the fastest in here was Shunfeng it usually takes 1 day from Shenzhen to my place

also it cost you 7 USD which is considered very expensive in shipping

usually we only spend 1-2 USD for shipping stuff

[thorny steeple]

Definitely China no.1 on this Field lol

[high raven]

For all that distance?

[feral river]

yeah

except Xinjiang and Tibet or somewhere of Inner Mongolia

[glossy radish]

ban minecraft

[feral river]

besides these region would recalcuate the shipping fee, for other region was all the same

[high raven]

That's wild, here within Oslo itself shipping and delivery is $10-15

[feral river]

my city was the key point of transportation and the provincial capital

[thorny steeple]

Damn I've must say that's something indeed

[thorny steeple]

Sent you to Siberia for 15 years

[glossy radish]

[feral river]

compared with other megacities my city was not so developed it looks but still developed with some nice views especially lakes and springs

city of the spring, Jinan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinan

[slender coral]

That's the point about moral subjectivity without religion.
The Muslim version of that question is: "if you are an atheist, why don't you fuck your sibling?" followed by the victory smirk

[thorny steeple]

Blud said it wasn't not so developed and the city reminds me of NYC lmao

[feral river]

besides it's hot as fuck which is quite usual

everything is just fine

[shell hemlock]

This is beautiful

I like

[feral river]

this shit exists everywhere in our city

[thorny steeple]

Yeah business as usual. Are there any old buildings from before 1911?

[feral river]

the city was the city of spring, lakes, springs, water shit everywhere

[shell hemlock]

What does it mean

[feral river]

yeah we have that, I just visited before few weeks because I had a family party in old city region

and it's nearby the provincial governers office

[high raven]

It was just so weird and random 😭

[feral river]

you can see the next building to the old city region was the provincial governer's office

[thorny steeple]

That's nice, how's the old city region like?

[feral river]

let me find if I left few photos

[slender coral]

It's always like that believe me. But honestly this is the first time I see a Christian talk like this, let these stuff for sheikhs dude be better @severe burrow.

[thorny steeple]

Aight

[feral river]

like this

[formal pilot]

O Yahweh, let blindness be my clarity, i don't want to read texts from priest

[thorny steeple]

Quite lake I must say

[formal pilot]

Yallah make me blind

[shell hemlock]

I have it blocked

[formal pilot]

You clearly hate a good laugh

[high raven]

That's what I'm saying, even the arguments used to hate on Islam are poor, when there's so many actual hadiths to pick and choose from

It is what it is though

[feral river]

NYC has not downgraded to this point 😭

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

🇺🇸

[thorny steeple]

True very rigged streets and tall buildings

[feral river]

I suggest the New York city move to somewhere in Florida it automatically solves the problem

[shell hemlock]

It’s not a good day to get ragebaited

[thorny steeple]

Lmao that be a undertaker project of massive proportions but impossible lol

[feral river]

Southern legacy and west coast shall rise as the leader of the United States of America

Free America from the East coast

[high raven]

Don't you mean West? That's where all the liberals are

[thorny steeple]

The west vs east lol

[feral river]

what ? isn't it in the East ?

only LA was the place where all liberals are

[high raven]

Remove both actually

[feral river]

holy shit

wait that's not 2024 election

[thorny steeple]

Isn't that tied with the south?

[thorny steeple]

The west coast, east Coast, Midwest, northwest, etc.

[feral river]

only the South was the real America

from Texas to North Carolina

[thorny steeple]

Only the south were brave enough to attempt secession and got clapped back to oblivion

[feral river]

and slavery

lmao

[thorny steeple]

Definitely the British are to blame for introducing this lol

[feral river]

somehow I would even wonder why would they try to abolish slavery

and British even abolished slavery

[marble seal]

.....

[thorny steeple]

The model wasn't working and on the morality side it was the right thing to do ngl

[feral river]

humm how's that not working I don't get it

morality was piece of shit in America even America wasn't established based on moral

America was established by business owners and capitalists

what's the technical problem of slavery I didn't really get it

was that inefficent ?

[thorny steeple]

You need more and more slaves to keep the machine going aka unlimited upscale of that model hit a wall before the cotton gin was invented by Mr Eli Whitney

[marble seal]

You really should go see a doctor and get diagnosed....that's some psychopathic arguments

[feral river]

oh why I thought if they had more slaves then the productivity would went high ?

and the demand also went high because the population number was increased

and as far as I know they would import slave from Africa rather than enslave native American was because they need skilled workers who could even read english to control the machines

but I didn't really know what's the technical issue of slavery model

in economics it seems no problem exist

[thorny steeple]

Yeah slavery was literally dying out before the cotton gin was invented

[feral river]

they must have some critical technical issue that make them abolish it or they discover it's more beneficial to abolish this rather than keep it anyway

even South went session against the Union because of slavery for some reason

[high raven]

Basic human decency aside, yes

[feral river]

that's crap

we are talking about the economics

I don't feel these business owners and capitalists would give a little fuck to human decency

and why would they abolish slavery ?

there must be some technical issues I don't know

[thorny steeple]

Well you need them to be fully healthy and replenish you can't have them starving and then seeing your production drop like nosedive

[high raven]

They weren't great either. A slave owns nothing and they spend money on nothing, so there's absolutely no reason for them work harder, productivity is only due to supervision, punishment and coercion that their master had to spend resources on in order to extract labour

[feral river]

so you mean the price of giving supervision, punishment and coercion was higher than the productivity of one person generates ?

[feral river]

most of them are healthy by selection on the shipping routes

on the shipping routes only 2/10 of the people survives

I feel Sanna's idea was quite vaild there must be a limit for this model that making the price higher than the value they generate

[thorny steeple]

You have to account the diseases those type of ships can get and the cramp conditions in which the slaves were being bold up in

[high raven]

As far as I know, yes. Forced labour is always worse than free labour markets, you actually earn more by setting them free, and having them work for extremely low amounts of money, than housing, feeding and controlling them

[feral river]

so free them was the best choice by that logic because once they got free they still working in the factory but receiving salary and no maintenance fee included

but that must happen in a model that they automatically choose to abolish it rather than a civil war

[thorny steeple]

That's terrible survival rate specifically if you were a plantation owner and needed fresh blood to work on the farms

[feral river]

based on the historical numbers I think housing wasn't an issue because most landowners left them no house to live and for controlling and feeding that won't cost very much I believe because they produce mostly cotton which is very productive

I can't believe produce cotton would generate less profit than produce grains

and btw that does that explain the civil war ?

because there's one side that upholds slavery so strong as they could launch a session against it

or that's because the North has reach the limit of producitivity by slavery model and they are more advanced ? what

Northern region barely have farms I think

or it's not because of the economics, it's because of the political reason

then that's another topic

[thorny steeple]

The north was more industrial than the south

[high raven]

Slaves were capital assets, not investments, and they were economically inefficient for long-term use, even though they generated good cash flow up front. The more slaves you kept, the more mouths to feed, cotton isn't edible, so landowners would either have to buy food for their slaves or allocate land, that would otherwise be used to maximise output of cotton, to grow crops for the slaves to feed themselves. The biggest reason as to why the South defended it had more to do with the status that it came with and the value of their land

It makes much more sense, economically, to free them and pay them as little as possible for their work

[feral river]

idk if at that time the collectivized farm exists but I don't think that could work in a place where all lands are private

collectivized farm could solve this issue very perfect

everybody was put in a huge farm and everybody was distributed to limited good and they have to work harder with very low payment

[feral river]

yes and incredibly even by that survival rate at that time they would still do it

[high raven]

Not only that, but I don't think any whites back then would want to work collectively with blacks

[feral river]

the profit was the only reason

[thorny steeple]

True they had not other choice sadly

[feral river]

no they either were recruit by becoming the soldiers, landowners or they work as other professions

if the people were imported how could you compare the value between two ?

in that society I don't think such case exists

[high raven]

Do you mean the value of two different slaves or the value of a white man as opposed to an African?

[feral river]

I just think white farmers at that time does not exist

[high raven]

Most farmers were actually white, and just that. Those who kept slaves were fewer and reserved to very wealthy plantation owners

[feral river]

oh that was surprising but how ? in that case why would they abolish slavery

[high raven]

Keep in mind that you had to actually buy a slave, and pay for the import of them. A white man earning a meagre salary did not afford another mouth to feed

[feral river]

why would a majority white farmer would support slavery in that case which would trigger a secession

[feral river]

oh yeah that make perfect sense

[high raven]

From a purely financial point it made more sense, and was more effective to shift to industrial capitalism and wage labour. There were other reasons too, like moral pressure and international isolation

[feral river]

they were almost isolated at that time, moral pressure does not exist too

even at now the moral pressure was very little

do you think that's a huge leverage ?

but by financial point I think there's a breakpoint that could keep this insititution exists as productive as it used to be

[high raven]

It did, the abolitionist movement was a vocal minority sure, but they were very effective in using religion to persuade away from slavery

[feral river]

but at that time the technology does not allow such case to happen

that make sense

[feral river]

that was very little than Unionists' demand for factory workers which they need enslaved black people to be free which they could use them as the labor in factory rather than produce cotton

it's the Unionists' interest push them to win the war

not the moral piece of crap which did not push any side

[severe burrow]

Sure lemme see

[high raven]

It was mutually beneficial for both the abolitionists and the Unionists to set the slaves free, let them live as free men but pay them the minimum wage to work in factories

[high raven]

It very much did, vocal minorities can be very effective and snowball into larger things. Just look at your own May 4th movement for example, it started with just a few students

[feral river]

Well nah it’s because the communists and nationalists are pushing this against clique rule

[severe burrow]

Can't be blah

[feral river]

Student is their tool to justify to execute their northern expedition plan

Every moral reason behind a power that is interest related

Moral is a piece of crap, the power of these people was real

[slender coral]

Islamweb is the website of the ministry of religious affairs in Qatar. See these responses to questions they had.
https://www.islamweb.net/ar/fatwa/296044/ضوابط-الاستمتاع-بالصغيرة

https://www.islamweb.net/ar/fatwa/195133/حكم-الزواج-بالصغيرة-والاستمتاع-بها

[feral river]

They didn’t win the revolution by vocal minority or addressing to issues, but by guns

By soldiers to occupy every territory the enemy possess

And they never use moral reason to justify their goal

[high raven]

I actually had to rub my eyes to check if I read that correctly

[slender coral]

Why are you surprised 😂

[severe burrow]

Lol

[feral river]

Revolution is not a dinner party, nor an essay, nor a painting, nor a piece of embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another. - Mao Zedong

[fresh flower]

Okay bro but are there femboys in your city?

Are femboys common/normalised in China

Or is it seen as something bad

What do you call femboys in Mandarin

[feral river]

nah

[feral river]

男娘 which is femboys

[thorny steeple]

Are there femboy communists?

[feral river]

I think that exist but I never see one

[thorny steeple]

Same lmao

[late ravine]

Russia invaded Polish airspace with armed drones headed towards targets in Ukraine

Reports by Poland confirm that they have engaged and destroyed several of them throughout the night. Now, executing NATO article 4 is being considered.

[formal pilot]

Slap me thrice and hand me to my mother, there's no f way

I hope things don't get escalated to Article 5

[high raven]

Don't worry, this time the EU letter of condemnation will make them stop

[formal pilot]

Yes, as usual, Article 4 has been invoked multiple times before

Russia isn't stupid enough to contribute in invoking article 5

[high raven]

It paid off to be a plane extremist last night, I found out about it before it hit mainstream news

[manic juniper]

Unfathomably based on Poland's part

[severe burrow]

huh

[mystic kindle]

Yo

[manic juniper]

Bro this is the reality of bordering Russia, they did this to every single country they border with

[formal pilot]

Ta dum tss

[manic juniper]

Even the countries they don't share a border with
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown

[formal pilot]

Why would they use polish airspace, just send drones directly smh

[thorny steeple]

So no one is safe even if they don't border Russia

[manic juniper]

Probably because the drones went through Belarus or were launched from there

Cucked country

[formal pilot]

Putin is trying really hard to stay in power

It's not Russia's war, it's Putin's war

[thorny steeple]

Lmao I'm wondering when will they be annexed into Russia

[manic juniper]

I don't think he's alone in wishing this war, even his opposition Navalny was staunchly anti-Ukrainian and insisted on keeping Crimea non-negotiable

[manic juniper]

Lukashenka said he will not have more terms after this, the guy is old and he isn't really shy about being a dictator so I guess he's not lying, he'll probably retire while someone he chooses takes the helm. As for what happens next, that's one of the possibilities

[thorny steeple]

One of many in the world of politics

[thorny steeple]

How strong is the Ukraine link to Crimea been before it was given to Ukraine in the 50s?

[manic juniper]

Ukraine and Russia were one entity so it's just as strong for either of them

It stopped being Tatar majority after these:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Tatarization_of_Crimea

[thorny steeple]

Makes sense why neither side wants to depart away from it

[manic juniper]

One could argue that this plan is still in effect, they are doing everything in their power to get Tatars to leave

[thorny steeple]

Yeah post Crimea khanate

Interesting then this be a very old deportation plan still in effect?

[manic juniper]

No but they are persecuting them and jailing them

[thorny steeple]

Crazy it seems the tatars can't find any peace in Crimea.

[formal pilot]

Many of my Russian friends oppose the war and do not support the current government, I don't know the ground reality

[feral river]

it's the great war for Russian people to bring Ukraine back to their motherland Russia

people of Ukraine is people of Russia

🇷🇺

Ура!

[prisma cipher]

Your friends are Dumbo like you. Not surprise

[formal pilot]

🫵

[manic juniper]

All Russians but one on this channel support it so it's kinda even isn't it

[thorny steeple]

Yeah sadly

[feral river]

that's very treason you should report it to Russian police

[formal pilot]

They're young and volatile

[feral river]

I'm sure they will have a good time

Hail Russia Hail the Supreme Leader Putin 🇷🇺

bring the Soviet Union back

let's remember Unite! All people around the world

[formal pilot]

What strategic, economic, or geopolitical advantages if any has Russia gained from this war?

[prisma cipher]

Navalny was racist. Like he don't like people who isn't Russian.

[feral river]

territory

[thorny steeple]

The Soviet Union is 6 feet under never coming back!

[manic juniper]

Yes

[feral river]

America would be better if there's Soviet Union

I promise

make them compete will acclerate your development lmao

[thorny steeple]

We have China as the next Soviet Union lol

[feral river]

that's god damn true

[formal pilot]

They already have enough, they're also blessed with natural resources

[feral river]

not enough

they have to do it until they reach english channel

[manic juniper]

Crimea would be their best access to the Black Sea, as for the rest of Ukraine it happens to have gas deposits that were recently discovered (exactly what the EU lacks)

[formal pilot]

Provide me the numbers

[manic juniper]

They have enough deposits of their own but taking it away from others is a strategic move

[thorny steeple]

Damn Seven days to the English channel lol

[feral river]

actually not joking the current territory the Russian holds after the war are all high industralized region with full of mining grounds

they actually gained a huge property

since they are already cut off of the world very much that led Putin to centralize his power even deeper in the Russia

[formal pilot]

They already have enough

[prisma cipher]

Just stop being dumb on one second.

[feral river]

well that was the number but you have to look over the difficulty of extracting it

[manic juniper]

As I said, it's about removing a possible competitor

[feral river]

in the Ukraine region where population is huge and there already are a lot of factories around the region which is very easy to extract resources

[manic juniper]

Yes they have enough, but the EU would rather buy from different sources instead of simply Russia

[feral river]

but if you want to extract resources from Siberia, you have to invest a lot regardless of the corruption and the transportation prices you have to pay, it's still very hard to use it at the time in need

it's very profitable and obvious to control these region is the best for economy

[manic juniper]

And this competitor would become a much bigger problem once the EU-Ukraine trade deal of 2013-2014 would've passed and EU investments started flowing

[feral river]

and even politically they need these region as buffer zones to protect their geopolitical power

[manic juniper]

Also like Minecraft said, you will control much of the world's supply of wheat and grain

[feral river]

it's very justified to take over Ukraine for Russian Federation and it's deeply interest related

and they do benefit from it even they suck at the war after 2 years

[manic juniper]

This doesn't have any leverage on the EU but it would increase the prices worldwide, EU included

[feral river]

it's a joke that India holds almost the largest grain fields but they need to import grains

that's because their internal policy

[thorny steeple]

Aka massive leverage

[manic juniper]

Yes

[feral river]

and regionalism

[manic juniper]

This would unironically destroy India

[feral river]

still a huge problem actually even at now

[thorny steeple]

Lmao so India's cooked then?

[feral river]

make India dependent on Russian grains ? what the heck

[formal pilot]

Per year natural gas consumption is nearly 340 bcm, in long term Russian gas is needed

[feral river]

that was insane actually I think Putin never thought about it

[feral river]

it's about the price

[manic juniper]

They'd have to pay more

[thorny steeple]

More like he probably did

[feral river]

by technically you can get rid of the energy consumption on natural resources but totally make it by electricity but can you do that ? no

because it is expensive.

[manic juniper]

EU investments would involve more than natural gas, that would be just the beginning

[formal pilot]

Russia has the potential to be the richest country in the world

[feral river]

energy also follows the supply and demand

[manic juniper]

If Ukraine makes the same sacrifices as Romania, Bulgaria and Poland it could end up becoming a potential candidate

[feral river]

making you the largest exporter could crash the market that's true but you can barely extract profit from it

[formal pilot]

Attacking Ukraine for natural resources is unfathomable

[feral river]

a country that only knows how to extract resources is very fragile and very backward in modern era

[manic juniper]

It's about taking natural resources away from the market and keeping their access to the Black Sea, if not even extending it

[formal pilot]

Every country is irrelevant in front of Russian resources

[thorny steeple]

And it all goes to the oligarchs if they're still around after

[feral river]

let me take an example, processing sand into chips are probably 1000x profitable than extract resources

because everybody could extract resources, the price is quite low

it follow the rule of market which is supply and demand

[manic juniper]

Not grain and wheat production

[feral river]

and even by that would create a lot of bureaucrats that increase the corruption level and their power leverage in the country

that's just oligarchy

[formal pilot]

I don't think wheat and grain are considered natural resources

[feral river]

I don't have any idea why somebody would think extract resources is very nice and they thought it's the gift of the God

no, it's far from enough if you want to industrialize your economy

[formal pilot]

Making ties with the EU would be more beneficial than attacking the EU

[manic juniper]

Not if you can blackmail it

[feral river]

annex the EU would be more beneficial than talking about anything about it

you know how fragile the relationship between countries are

[thorny steeple]

Wdymmm by annexing the EU?

[manic juniper]

Which ones

[feral river]

anyone relying on some fucking relationship or treaty was glitched at their mind

that was fucked

[manic juniper]

If you are speaking between intra-EU relationships they are quite strong

[feral river]

your relationship was established based on your strength, your power projection, influence,

[manic juniper]

We quite literally don't care about most borders and most people hold good opinions on it, the lowest is still something like 60%

[formal pilot]

The EU is strong enough to do significant damage in russia and vice versa, it would be beneficial to non

[feral river]

the main struggle was to compete, rather than cooperate

[feral river]

EU is an economic organization dude

EU is not a fucking country

EU is not protecting anyone, it's the NATO

[formal pilot]

I meant Nato, my bad

[feral river]

NATO was the one America left for maintain their influence over Europe

[thorny steeple]

More like a counter against the bygone Warsaw Pact

[feral river]

none about their member states, can you name one of their member states which do have very powerful military as a superpower like the US and Russia ?

[manic juniper]

EU has its internal defence policy

It's stronger than NATO's treaties and articles

[feral river]

on the policy it was, but by strength nah

far from enough

by strength they are trash as they only could compete with some African and Middle East nations

[formal pilot]

Alright, making ties with European countries would be more beneficial to Russia

[manic juniper]

Also saying the EU is just an economic organisation is reductive, it's also political and operates on supranational level, it can implement laws that have priority over a country's law

[feral river]

I would even doubt if they have the power to win against India

[feral river]

the only thing that benefit Russia was bring the Soviet Union back

[manic juniper]

Because they are smaller countries, that's the entire reason why the EU exists

[thorny steeple]

Def it would be the European economic something lol

[feral river]

making ties and privitize their economy actually destroyed Russia in the first place

[manic juniper]

Not even close, pound for pound they are far beyond all of those except countries with ridiculous population sizes like Egypt but many of them are still above (like France)

[feral river]

I don't think I have to show how much productivity they downgraded after the collapse of the SU

[manic juniper]

And Italy

[feral river]

so let me ask this question. do you think France and Italy would give a shit to Ukraine ?

I don't think they would

they neither act for interest of the EU

[manic juniper]

Italy wouldn't because it's Italy, France could

[formal pilot]

Why would india fight any European country

[feral river]

by now the only member that actually give a fuck was German and Poland with Baltics because they are way closer to Russia

they fear their ass got attacked by Russians

but France ? what the fuck who cares who gives a fuck

[high raven]

Law/Rule without...

[manic juniper]

Plus you're jumping from one argument to the other, you were talking about strength and now you're talking about action. USA isn't doing anything for Ukraine despite being able to easily defeat Russia in a matter of days

[formal pilot]

I got the jets

[thorny steeple]

And then there's the issue about nukes who wants to start WW3

[manic juniper]

The reality is that none of them wishes to get involved for a reason or another, European countries don't want to because they fear a war economy and instability

[feral river]

it's a whole argument of whether EU is about to defend Russia if you count strength we would consider every possible force that could stop Russia

[manic juniper]

USA wouldn't because it's basically controlled by Russia anyway

[feral river]

then you would talk about France I mean my opinion is France doesn't give a fuck about Russia

[manic juniper]

Ukraine isn't EU, so it's not even considered

[feral river]

too far from their piece of land

[feral river]

yeah

so that's it

[formal pilot]

We need some adult mature Russians here to understand what benefits they are getting from this war

[manic juniper]

The difference between Ukraine and EU is the same as the difference between your grandmother and a Chilean woman

[feral river]

that's spying against Russia 💀

[manic juniper]

Why would you do something for a Chilean woman living thousands of kilometres away that you may hold sympathy for but isn't your family member

[feral river]

anyway you can do it overseas who cares

[high raven]

I will fly them

[thorny steeple]

Nahh nahh that's freedom of speech lol

[formal pilot]

Tomorrow?

[manic juniper]

Russian supply lines aren't really strong, they're already stretched with Ukraine and that's on the border, after years of buildup

[feral river]

well but I'm sure she won't risk her life and send all her stuff to fight against that just by sympathy

[high raven]

Second Lebanese to hijack a plane

A title to be proud of

[manic juniper]

It would absolutely fail against Eastern Europe, most countries have prepared for a Russian invasion since the 90s. This is why Poland blackmailed the West in order to join NATO

[thorny steeple]

Lol prestigious title?

[manic juniper]

Let alone the rest of Europe that has no border with Russia, how are they supposed to get there? With donkeys?

[formal pilot]

No wonder why god commanded to kill the donkeys

[feral river]

supply issue could be solved by time and before that they already controlled the region most railways were built towards the moscow

[high raven]

The highest title a Hezb supporter can achieve, second only to martyr

[feral river]

if you are aware how Russian build railways

[manic juniper]

My mum, who was born Russian, predicted this war in 2004 and kept telling my relatives to leave

[thorny steeple]

Lmao maybe they asked for deer from the Sami

[thorny steeple]

Oh well lol

[manic juniper]

The reasons are simple: irredentism, access to the Black Sea, keeping other countries under their sphere of influence

[feral river]

it's not hard to find a way straight from Moscow to Warsaw I believe

[manic juniper]

They had years to fix the issue with Ukraine but it's still the same as day one, more or less

[thorny steeple]

And get more warm water ports?

[feral river]

at least they already annexed the high industrialized region

[feral river]

isn't that the best for Russian interest ?

what else that could be more beneficial

none, the basis of the country was territory, the economy was the territory, the population was the territory, the living space was the territory

everything was territory

[manic juniper]

I would really like to know how any country is supposed to occupy a much smaller country whose citizens went through mandatory conscription, unless you will bomb them to submission there is no way to stop most of them from fighting back. Even then you just wasted a lot of your resources just to take over Latvia, that's not impressive

[feral river]

no American territory we won't have discord

[manic juniper]

It is

[dapper laurel]

Good ending

[thorny steeple]

The greatest ending ngl

[feral river]

we will take their Siberia

[thorny steeple]

Green USA so where's green Ukraine?

[manic juniper]

Finland has just 5 millions people but over ⅙ went through some military training, it's unrealistic to occupy Finland unless you kill most people in it

[thorny steeple]

Definitely a very costly operation

[manic juniper]

Critical support to the PRC

[dapper laurel]

What if China was Balkanized too?

[thorny steeple]

Or what if Italy or Finland was Balkanized?

[dapper laurel]

For Italy would be a good ending

[thorny steeple]

For Finland the Sapmis finally get their own land

[thorny steeple]

Definitely north vs South

[feral river]

that won't happen I guess if in that case the world would be destroyed completely

[dapper laurel]

Based

[thorny steeple]

Based W China

[dapper laurel]

Best ending

[manic juniper]

There isn't much to Balkanise, you can make a Sweden Junior using coastal Ostrobothnia, Åland and part of Nyland, Sápmi up north (but very tiny, Finland has the least Sámi) and then a rump state Finland everywhere else

[feral river]

why it look like the Third Reich

[manic juniper]

Rump state Finland could be further divided in rump state Finland and Savo-Karelia to the East if you really try to

[thorny steeple]

Welcome back Venetia Lombardy

[dapper laurel]

This is because the person who created it is a fervent fascist

[dapper laurel]

Great Lombardy

[thorny steeple]

Yeah that be something ngl

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/lombardy-sizzi-lombardia-salut-gif-14527525739607355025

[dapper laurel]

Poland slowly fell under Russian rule

[thorny steeple]

Those poles are resistant to assimilation

They fell 8 times

And still rose up

[feral river]

they didn't use our way to deal with them

[dapper laurel]

You can never destroy Poland

[feral river]

our assimilation policy was the best

even the ruler of China could be assimilated

[thorny steeple]

Amen to Poland

[thorny steeple]

You can always destroy Italy instead

[dapper laurel]

Italy is really easy to destroy ngl

[thorny steeple]

Only the Romans lasted the longest with a united Italy

Then Italia balkanizes

[dapper laurel]

Best time in our history

[thorny steeple]

Definitely

[thorny steeple]

Indeed I'm surprised that after Rome there never arose an empire that could take all of its provinces ngl

[fresh flower]

Why do you know the name

You just said they're not common

[thorny steeple]

He's a femboy?

[high raven]

I disagree

[molten osprey]

I disagree

[sacred wedge]

Me too

[thorny steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414785589831536770/1415238167555997756/image0.gif

[lime cobalt]

Who read the Protocols of elderly learned Zion ?

Democracy, Liberal, Comunist, Moralist, Atheist will destroy u

The one almost beat this sht is only Hitler

[thorny steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783547639944839182/941228285210275931/828773043840614442.gif

[left arrow]

Y'all need Jesus. Lol. Every time I look through this room

[reef dove]

helllo

wsp sis

[prisma cipher]

What the point to explain you anything if you incapable to comprehend information? You talk about Russia and the reasons for the war without knowing the background of these events and the history of our relations, and the history of these places called Ukraine. You take the economic part separately and try to analyze it but your puzzle doesn't fit together. I say what is wrong, you stupid and know nothing, but because you stupid you think you know enough.

develop, study, read books, increase your intelligence, and then I will explain something to you. I gave you a direction, go ahead

[lime cobalt]

A broken system will only create cold hearted people. And that is worse than hell. - joka

[formal pilot]

Jesus is king

[lime cobalt]

Do u ever saw debate islam vs jew ?

Im very very looking for it

[formal pilot]

Jews are muslims with windows xp

[lime cobalt]

Jews still consider themselves the chosen people until they acknowledge Islam.

[formal pilot]

Muslims also believe that jews are the chosen people

[lime cobalt]

Everyone other than them is considered goyim, including Muslims, and they believe goyim are too foolish to understand, so they avoid debates because arguing with an idiot is impossible.

[formal pilot]

It's also really difficult to find a Jewish person actively debating on an online platform

If i was the chosen one, I'd have felt the same tbh

[lime cobalt]

So they keep the truth only for themselves, which is rather selfish.

[formal pilot]

Well preaching the religion might not be optimal for them, because the whole idea of being the chosen one comes from "Sons of abrahimic"

So a person without jewish decent might not be a "chosen one"

[lime cobalt]

Jewish blood

Must be pure

[slender coral]

Muslims believe Jews had prophets at some point, and were chosen at some point (from my understanding), but they aren't chosen anymore.

They are evil now

Mohamed was so angry at them during his days because they had much influence on tribal politics of Arabia it seems.

[shell hemlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INIG636SnU4&t=641s&pp=ygUhamV3cyBjaHJpc3RpYW4gaXNsYW0gY29udmVyc2F0aW9u

I recommend to watch this video

[lime cobalt]

Can u tell me the point of the convo ?

[shell hemlock]

About most asked questions and misconception

[thorny steeple]

Hey brother Wssp

[reef dove]

hru

[lime cobalt]

About what ? I saw 3 religions there , are they debate and get a conclusion ?

[thorny steeple]

Alhamdulilah wbu

[reef dove]

im goood

thank god

[shell hemlock]

You didn't watch the video, did you ?

[reef dove]

how its going there ?

[thorny steeple]

Not much just like other day what about there

[shell hemlock]

They are having a conversation about their difference in faiths and answering misconceptions about their religion

[reef dove]

my brain didn’t loaded still cuh i js woke up

[thorny steeple]

Bruhhh it’s 5 pm u woke up now!!?

[lime cobalt]

I wanna make sure if its good convo, but thank u for recomendation

[reef dove]

so idk how its going

[reef dove]

yeah

[shell hemlock]

It’s insightful for all 3 religions and there is another video where they continued this convo

[reef dove]

cuh i didn’t slept cuh its was late and i had to go work and i didn’t sleep and when i came home from work i slept

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-strange-mob-gif-12413747667150461911

[lime cobalt]

Do u agree that they should have one god ?

In common

[shell hemlock]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Aha okay okay I thought u slept from last night till now

[shell hemlock]

There is only one God

[reef dove]

and even tho i don’t wanna get out of bed cuh i have work i wanna sleep more

my eyes are red asf

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-patrick-stare-patrick-eyes-red-eyes-gif-14781443

thats me exactly

[thorny steeple]

U should sleep soon at night because u have work

[shell hemlock]

Did you buy premium for the Kurdistan role ?

[reef dove]

i can’t sleep cuh i have work my second shift is abt to start

[lime cobalt]

Thats the point, i wanna see concluded debate that they agreed in one god in common

[shell hemlock]

Good luck finding that

[thorny steeple]

Oh || لەشت ساخ بێت مامە || try to make a good plan for your sleep schedule

[thorny steeple]

Subscribe

[lime cobalt]

How to make hidden text like that

[reef dove]

i have it but its fucked

[lime cobalt]

flare stop typing, its too long to read

[tender vessel]

No, we don't. They were chosen at the time of Moses by the amount of prophets that were sent from among them, the wealth they had, and authority they were granted, but that's it. They are no longer chosen by God because of their mischief and disobedience.

[reef dove]

use this || at the start of message and end and give them space

[thorny steeple]

Write between two of this “||”