🧠｜serious-chat

[fresh flower]

This is also why AK-47 uses 7.62, but its replacement AK-74 uses 5.45x39

[feral river]

AK-12 also use 5.45x39

and RPK

then you got AK-15 which uses 7.62x39mm

[fresh flower]

Yes, and that's even newer than AK-74. There's very few reasons to standardise 7.62 over 5.56

The only reason Russia still uses it is because of a gigantic stockpile

[feral river]

they just produced too much AKM and such type of ammo

AKM's terrorists' favorite

[fresh flower]

If I was a terrorist leader I'd take my boys to target practice

They can't aim for shit

[plush robin]

the AKM isn’t terrorists’ favorite. It’s just the McDonald’s of rifles, cheap, mass produced, and you can find one on every corner

[fresh flower]

I will reinstate Bashar al-Assad in Syria so that all the Syrian refugees in Sweden can move back home

Things were better there under him

[slender coral]

It was acceptable at these times because people didn't know better. Your god didn't know better?
And about the point you made about Aisha being able to talk about any abuse that could've happened after his death, this is bs honestly. People didn't have freedom of speech in the Muslim society. There was an incident of a man who killed his pregenant slave because she said bad things about the prophet and he wasn't punished, the prophet told him that she deserved to get her blood spilled.

Ibn Abbas (RAA) narrated, ‘A blind man had a pregnant slave, who used to abuse the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) and defame him. The blind man forbade her but she did not stop. One night she began to slander the Prophet (ﷺ) so he took an axe, placed it on her belly, pressed it and killed her. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was told about it, and thereupon he said, “Oh people! Be witnesses that no Diyah is to be paid for her blood.”

Hadith - Crimes (Qisas or Retaliation) - Bulugh al-Maram - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم) https://share.google/yMDbOaCKCqlAlfyHI

Except Sufis and Asharis too

Except many groups tbh

[terse flare]

Oh nice some don't anything about islam talk about islam and just put some Suspicions about Islam for non muslim who didn't know anything about islam so They will believe you cuz they don't know anything about islam

[slender coral]

Don't worry, I helped some Muslims leave Islam before.

Not on Discord though

[terse flare]

When you become atheist you didn't just live your life nah you just live for attack islam why cuz you are ignorant

[high raven]

What made you eventually leave it?

Or did you not grow up in a religious household?

[terse flare]

Yeah yeah the same words of all atheists

[marble seal]

Religion makes no sense if you have two brain cells to rub together....js

But aye drink your Kool aid as much as you want

[terse flare]

You must say this to atheists no us

[marble seal]

I said it to the right person

[thorny steeple]

where is the serious chat

[terse flare]

Really lmao 🤣

[slender coral]

I did. There was nothing specific that made me leave it. For me it was how I saw Islamic texts and Muslims fail at presenting any convincing arguments for the validity of Islam.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hakla-shahrukh-hakla-gif-15838162180830351834

[marble seal]

True for any Abrahamic religion

[slender coral]

Live to attack Islam? Just because you see me criticize it on Discord you determined that I live my life to attack it? Lol

[slender coral]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[terse flare]

Come on don't lie to yourself

[high raven]

Was your family supportive of that decision?

[thorny steeple]

I'm ryan gosling

[slender coral]

No one knows.

And of course they wouldn't be. They are the average Muslim family basically.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

[high raven]

That's probably for the better, depending on where you live

[terse flare]

No one know cuz he wasn't a true muslim come on you guy believe this guy

[slender coral]

@marble seal see the cope

[marble seal]

Average coper

[slender coral]

Fr

[high raven]

I think it's more so because of it not being safe to openly be an atheist in any Muslim majority country

[feral river]

bud suddenly realized how we were acting up so good without even one refugee

[marble seal]

It's not just unsafe...it's a death sentence

[feral river]

at our street you can't find one person with some black stupid mask on their face

[slender coral]

Not in all of them though

[feral river]

you can't find one terrorist and separatism flag

[high raven]

In some places yes

[marble seal]

Which one .....

[terse flare]

You guy make me laugh when you talk about Islam you show us that you are ignorant more and more

[feral river]

there's no concept of muslim

[slender coral]

In Egypt for example there's no death sentence for atheists. But yeah people may get assassinated over this so if you mean it could happen out of the law then you are probably right.

[feral river]

you are a muslim that does not represent anything lmfao

why would I give a fuck about it

[marble seal]

I...did mean mobs yeah

[feral river]

it's weird as you would talk to a random person that you like sweet salad

[marble seal]

Or the state in case of uae/Saudi arabia

[feral river]

I mean who gives a fuck

[high raven]

A famous critic of Islam was recently assassinated in Sweden, it's not just specific ME countries

[slender coral]

And after all of this they cry about Islamophobia 😅

[feral river]

I don't get the idea of importing radical terrorism ideology

[terse flare]

There's no concept of china

[feral river]

we use our iron fists to crack the heck them down

[feral river]

there is if our fighter jet is on your sky

you will see

[terse flare]

[feral river]

probably the next carrier is going to be deployed at your place

like the United States of America

and you will realize what's the concept of China

you can see about it

[slender coral]

Very constructive discussion

[high raven]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salwan_Momika

He even has a wikipedia page, he made quite some noise in Europe by publicly burning the Quran as a form of protest

[slender coral]

I know about him

He actually knew he would get himself killed

[feral river]

or you can keep reject there's no concept of China while our fighter jet is on your sky everyday

at least you still can do it, right ?

🤣

like some terrorists keep reject there's concept of Israel

and they paid the bill to what ? the void ?

oh no, it's the God punishing them

LMFAO

L

[terse flare]

Come on don't be child and talk like an adult for once in your life

[high raven]

Most likely yes, very sad altogether

[feral river]

it is gonna be real I'm not kidding

lol

[terse flare]

Yeah i know who are the real terrorists its china and Israel

[feral river]

you have the right to say that currently

when the Israel's border reached your place, think twice to say it again

[terse flare]

Oh nice you listen to rashid wow and knowing about islam

[feral river]

let's see about it

[terse flare]

Idc at all

[slender coral]

I don't listen to Rashid dummy, it's just this interview.

[feral river]

you can not to care but you will

[terse flare]

Yeah yeah i believe you

[feral river]

loser even does not have the right to speak

survival for the fittest 🇮🇱

[terse flare]

Idc again

[slender coral]

Doesn't matter if you do or don't

[terse flare]

Wow Darwin theory

[terse flare]

No it matter to

[slender coral]

Anyway

Islam sucks

[terse flare]

The final solution for arab atheists when they can't win an argument

[slender coral]

We didn't even argue bro wtf are you saying? And I don't wanna argue with the likes of you. You are completely unable to have a constructive discussion with anyone.

[terse flare]

Take this this it's dropped from you 🧠

[feral river]

My bullet toward terrorists is the best argument 🇺🇸 🇮🇱

[high raven]

Abbodi I take it that you're a Muslim yourself?

[terse flare]

Bla bla bla you think you have a brain lamo

[slender coral]

Reminds me of a Sheikh who said a bullet in the head of a Christian or an atheist is better than years of studying Comparative religion

[feral river]

Try harder if you think that was right

And you will see F-35 from Christians, J-20 from atheists

Then let me question what do these guys have, Russian AK-47?

[slender coral]

That guy probably can't even handle a gun. All bark no bite.

He now has a talk show on TV in Egypt.

[feral river]

Lmfao

You are right about it

He should appreciate his leader had a deal with Israel or his home is probably in danger again in few years

[slender coral]

The problem with people like him is that they incite others to do shit but don't get their own hands dirty.

It was often the case with religious dissenters here in Egypt

Maybe it's like that everywhere

[high raven]

This is why we need a safe space for atheists in the ME

#Make Lebanon Christian Again

[feral river]

Why not make Lebanon part of Israel

It automatically solve the issue

[slender coral]

We had a writer who got stabbed in the neck over a novel that was subtly critical of Islam, the man who did that didn't read anything he just did it because some Sheikh said the writer is a Kafir and said that he should be killed. Same happened with a Muslim guy who had non-mainstream ideas about Islam, and again the attacker didn't read anything from him.

[feral river]

There’s no Palestinians, only Israeli arabs

[terse flare]

Bark more pls im enjoying listen to your bark 😁

[feral river]

I mean technically

[terse flare]

Childish talk again when you become an adult we will listen to your words

[high raven]

Minecraft are you letting him get away with that

[feral river]

nah I'm just buying a coke rn

[feral river]

you don't have to listen to my words

listen Israeli fighter jets on your sky

[urban swift]

Yeah this one of the traits i was talking about mr. book crammer

[marble seal]

You think they are gonna save you?

[terse flare]

I won't remind you of when Muslims used to take money from your ancestors to keep them alive.

[high raven]

Are glass bottles commonly found in China? It's very hard to find glass bottled Cola here, they've always tasted better

[feral river]

one of the biggest joke in 2025

[high raven]

Who? And from what?

[feral river]

you broke the record

[slender coral]

It's not 4-5 scholars, this has been the Islamic attitude for so long.

[feral river]

when our ancestors having a great civilization your concept of Islam does not exist

😂

[terse flare]

Yeah yeah sure sure i see

[marble seal]

making lebanon Christian wont make the lot of atheists any better.....or are you living under a rock currently and dont see christofacism on the rise ?

[feral river]

well we have glass bottle coke in some restaurants but usually we will have a regular one as they have in other countries

[urban swift]

Yeah understandable. Their book literally teaches them hate for non muslims what else can you expect

[feral river]

and you guys does not exist as well

[slender coral]

Idk if you know this or not, the Chinese civilization is much older than Islam.

[feral river]

dude broke the record of ignorance

[high raven]

An atheist is safer in the least developed Christian state than in the most developed Muslim one

[slender coral]

@feral riverdid the Chinese pay Jizyah to Muslims at any point?

[terse flare]

Yeah sure more pls 😁

[high raven]

Irregardless of "Christofascism"

[feral river]

never

we only kick muslims out of our places in ancient times

[slender coral]

Get your ignorant ass out of here dude

[feral river]

even Turks are moving from Xinjiang and settled to Turkey region because we kicked their ass too hard

[terse flare]

When you are know nothing about History and talk you will be minecraft

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-chris-meloni-burn-elliot-stabler-undercover-gif-13509196051557363528

[feral river]

actually it's because of us they moved to the modern middle east region otherwise they will stay in central asia

[marble seal]

True...but it also is better to drink poison that kills you slower...

[feral river]

we did kick them out and Russians as well

[marble seal]

so...why not have anything poisonous at all...

[feral river]

they got ass kicked also in Spain

[hidden shore]

That’s funniest thing i heard😹

[high raven]

If you've seen instances of Christians targeting atheists you're more than welcome to show them

[urban swift]

Never forget how much they stole it from Greek scholars, christianity, jews, babylonians, zorostrians, pagan Arabs(pre islamic) and many more. Imma attach a video

[terse flare]

Your china have been kicked ass by hole Europe in the past don't forget that

[feral river]

stay hard to exist under Israel

[marble seal]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/

[feral river]

what a crap

[slender coral]

@feral river

Tributary vs. Jizyah confusions:

Chinese dynasties operated on a tributary system where foreign powers sent tribute to the Chinese court, and in return they got gifts and recognition. Some Muslim historians (looking from the Islamic tax framework) may have described Chinese tribute as “jizyah,” but this was not the same institution.
This is funny

[hidden shore]

😂they spared to central Asian to northern African, and south Asian, southeast Asian

[feral river]

tributary system is implemented as they give their shit to us 🤣 🤣 🤣

[high raven]

You're joking

[feral river]

they would consider it's us giving shit to them lmfaoooo

[terse flare]

The same lie everywhere wow i have discovered that all atheists have the same 2 brain cells nice its good achievement

[marble seal]

plus..the german nazi party are also running on a christian platform

[hidden shore]

With their only one god concept 😂😂

[high raven]

That's fair, but does the AfD target atheists

[marble seal]

Im actually not. All I am saying is that facism comes in all flavours.......muslims and christians can both be guilty. Which is why you need the seperation of the church and state

[feral river]

in ancient times we don't care where they are around

we just simply kick them out

[thorny steeple]

Damn it’s really serious here

[hidden shore]

Take Chinese advance papers , makeing a holy book called Quran

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/flame-thrower-leonardo-dicaprio-lance-flamme-burn-burning-gif-21661296

[hidden shore]

That’s funniest thing

[marble seal]

Not yet......they arent in power : )

[hidden shore]

[marble seal]

Though at the rate its going....they soon will be

[marble seal]

at which time imma say fuck you to germany and move back to ireland.....I want no part of this nazi bullshit

[hidden shore]

paper technology did spread from China to the Islamic world centuries, come on 😂

[thorny steeple]

We know so why u joking at Quran ???

Wtf

[hidden shore]

You think your guys holy ass book made in god😂🤣

i don’t mind by that

If you say yes

[whole beacon]

Sup sup keyboarders

Chaos control has arrived

[marble seal]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-suicide-brain-dead-stupid-dumb-gif-12320582

[thorny steeple]

Bruh who the hell are u to disrespect

[feral river]

we killed their islamic empire but cutting off the trade route

[hidden shore]

I just think funny those written lattes full of conventional backwards ideology

[feral river]

their islamic empire was exists because of the monopoly of the trade between the east and west

[slender coral]

Bruh you keep spamming the same video over and over again

[high raven]

Neither one has, or has implied, that they'd target atheists, it's a hypothetical. Secularism is great, I agree, but Christian states do work, and would be considerably safer for atheists, and minorities, in the Middle-East

[marble seal]

He thinks its some kind of own while its PURE COPIUM

like holy shit

[feral river]

at ancient times we had a civil war which almost cut off the trade route at that time they lost their source of income

[whole beacon]

GUYS GUYS
Be reminded

[thorny steeple]

Bruh ! It’s the second time I’m sending it why

[slender coral]

Fr

[thorny steeple]

Can u check that one I send in gk

[whole beacon]

Forward the msgs if can be

In the mean time

Dear Members,

This chat is intended for serious discussions and educational content. Please refrain from indirect or direct insults, demeaning expressions, and ad hominem attacks. For constructive and respectful conversations, avoid unfounded labeling and inappropriate remarks

[slender coral]

Still annoying and won't lead to anything useful 😭
I asked you the first time and you didn't respond to me. Who is this guy?

[thorny steeple]

anti Islamic gots sick again

[feral river]

and their islamic empire got collapsed

[thorny steeple]

I did

[feral river]

then never come up again

[terse flare]

Wow this chat is full by atheists bullshit and braindead atheists nice

[whole beacon]

U have a mute/ban wish?

[high raven]

Be nice to them Abbodi

[thorny steeple]

Check the other one and see who started

[marble seal]

Thats the thing with facism...they dont care what you are when you dont play along with them. Its always the same playbook...use a platform to gain power. Religion serves as a really easy way to do that....always has

[feral river]

be nice or get your ass fuck off of the place

[whole beacon]

This concerns u too @hidden shore

[whole beacon]

And u too.
Just shush

[shell hemlock]

Alhamdulillah

[terse flare]

Oh im so sad i will be banned from heaven oh no fck idc

[whole beacon]

Hmmm

[slender coral]

7abibi Abood was the one to start it.

[whole beacon]

I smell mutes coming

Lets wait and see

[thorny steeple]

Then why u starting with him too? U have problems with our opinion?!

[terse flare]

Lie more pls if you up to chat you will see who start disrespectful

[whole beacon]

??mute

Bot works here

[high raven]

I wasn't discussing fascism in general though, nor is the rise of alt-right politics in the West relevant to what I said

[terse flare]

Mute me guy pls

[slender coral]

What did I do exactly?

[whole beacon]

Perfectoo

[shell hemlock]

I think she is anti Islam, she did the same thing days ago

Coming in here, yapping about false information about Islam

[whole beacon]

[shell hemlock]

And spreading anti Islam propaganda

[marble seal]

It is because it always ends up leading to the same shit....and you did say that you want lebanon to be a christian state again

[slender coral]

Let me help you. Start here #🧠｜serious-chat message

[whole beacon]

Holly yapparoni

[thorny steeple]

Anti Islamic getting sick when they hear about Quran

[shell hemlock]

[slender coral]

I get annoyed

[whole beacon]

Hizbullah be like :

[marble seal]

And no ..its not alt right. Its far right

[thorny steeple]

Damn I’m really sad for u fr fr

[slender coral]

Refute my propaganda then

[terse flare]

Im done with you you are really really blind and braindead

[whole beacon]

Guys guyuys loook

[thorny steeple]

Yes we know 😏

[whole beacon]

All of yo now

[shell hemlock]

If you are spreading false information then that is your wrongdoing and you will be held accountable yourself.

[slender coral]

What did I do 😭😭😭😭

[whole beacon]

[feral river]

I feel hard to you guys dealing such bullshit everyday

[marble seal]

Mod wants to hear us fart on the shitter 💀

[slender coral]

[feral river]

anyways

[whole beacon]

Bro u gotta work on ur phrasing
This sounds so kinky

[high raven]

I did, and that is fascist in of itself, I don't disagree. But we were discussing where, and what, would be the safest for atheists and/or minorities in the ME, not fascism

[hidden shore]

I just talked about history

[feral river]

ur right about it I learned english from american street asshs

[whole beacon]

😂😂😂😂

[slender coral]

I kinda like it. Yeah Muslims tend to be not constructive and hateful and all, but at least I can talk here without the threat of being harmed you know. It makes me feel free.

[shell hemlock]

I saw you in Ask a Muslim VC yesterday, have you considered asking them instead of ridiculing Muslims

[whole beacon]

bruuh

*** culture

[shell hemlock]

I get that you are a non-believer, but you can always ask questions without diminishing the entirety of the religion

[feral river]

it's their texas legacy

[slender coral]

I couldn't stay in the call but I pinged Taha and Abbas over the point I raised.

[whole beacon]

Me as a muslim Mod :

[terse flare]

Bro Don't argue with him its useless he don't have a brain

[feral river]

everything could happen in texas and florida

[high raven]

Abbodi refuses to play nice

[thorny steeple]

Bruh at least ure better than them 😭😂

[slender coral]

I don't think being critical toward Islam or any other religion is a bad thing. It's your problem that you consider it an offense, most people outside of the Muslim world don't.

[whole beacon]

??mute @terse flare 1h take a breather

[bitter badger]

moamen9 was muted.

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[whole beacon]

Whooops

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/flame-thrower-leonardo-dicaprio-lance-flamme-burn-burning-gif-21661296

[feral river]

as long as im holding this

[feral river]

a proud Chinese citizen 🇨🇳

[slender coral]

I said they tend to be like that, so not all. You are one of the cool ones
Why you don't share your religious and political povs here? This way you would be able to moderate the channel too.

[feral river]

with this useless passport

[whole beacon]

Where mao's pic ???

[thorny steeple]

Gogogogogogogoogogogogogogogogogogogo Taiwan gogogogogogo

[high raven]

Why not Pepsi?

[feral river]

I don't like pepsi

[whole beacon]

I voice my opinion, mostly in vcs.
Texting is exhausting for me. thanks cool one

[feral river]

on the tiananmen square, Beijing

[whole beacon]

THEY SHOUĹD PUT THAT ON THE PASSPORT

[thorny steeple]

gogogogogoogogog chinaaaa occupy Taiwan

[high raven]

Due to a language barrier you'll only understand half of this

[feral river]

the two line was: Long Live the People's Republic of China and Long Live the unity of the people around the world

[whole beacon]

NIOICE PLACE.
tho ugly statue. For sure

[slender coral]

We need an admin or two here though if we want this to become a good channel.

[shell hemlock]

It’s like calling Muslims terrorists and saying “oh I’m just criticizing you, it’s not even that bad”

[slender coral]

Where did I call Muslims terrorists?

[feral river]

I had been to that place 3 times lol

[marble seal]

I didn't see them do that...

[feral river]

it only cost me 50 bucks around 7 USD to Beijing

[whole beacon]

Hard to do monitor all chats, since vcs are way more chaotic

[feral river]

I'm in Jinan city, which is not far from Beijing

Northern China

[whole beacon]

I give u that , apart from the lame maoism , china has accomplished wonders.

[shell hemlock]

Remember yesterday you were pressing on Muslims for having Islamic practice with women wearing hijabs and you were calling them oppressive even when everyone was explaining their beliefs to you, you dismissed it by saying “oh no all of them are oppressing women because I am from Egypt and I see it happen” and let’s not forget the fact that you are claiming that Muslims in general are bad people because of your ‘experience’ with them

[marble seal]

They did steal a lot of tech though

[whole beacon]

Well thats how it works

[feral river]

Maoism was lame for development, but it was useful at that time for China and Chinese people to get rid of the foreign intervention and corrupted nationalist party

[whole beacon]

Look at israel

Bunch of killers yeah, but there gd at espionage

[slender coral]

I didn't talk about Hijab yesterday, it seems like you are confusing me with someone else. When and where did that happen exactly?

[whole beacon]

Anyway
I gtt chat.
Tc

[feral river]

the world has 2 Chinas, one is an ultradiverse country with 1.4 billion people and great civilization for 5000 years, one is the page that Beijing has shaped to the view for entire world.

[slender coral]

Was referring to Abood 😅

[high raven]

That one is fair though

Abbodi kept insulting him

[whole beacon]

Ur absolutely right on that.
But for the sake of ur accounts safety.
Delete this, cuz discord is lit an agent of zionism

Bruuuh

Delete this

[feral river]

another blame to Zionism

anyway I respect that opinion at least

[slender coral]

It was directed at Abood still bad? 😭

[feral river]

as a Zionist I admit we should improve our narrative 🇮🇱

[whole beacon]

Well
Lets not go there 😂😂
Its a long ideological topic to uncover.

[shell hemlock]

[slender coral]

This one is fair. Have you heard of non-Muslims doing similar things?

[shell hemlock]

🤣🤣🤣

[whole beacon]

Yeaap
U get penalized by that, if u were to be reported.
So delete it

There's a fine line btwn criticism and discrimination.
Plz guys, strive ,to know the difference

[slender coral]

No fr. Honor culture exists outside of the Muslim world, I get it. But does it reach the level where a fully covered woman can get killed over a live stream, and the killer have supporters?

[high raven]

Honor-killings are inherently Islamicate

[thorny steeple]

Who even said that 😂😂🤣 it’s mean they don’t aware of anything 😂😂

[shell hemlock]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[whole beacon]

Inherently religious, mostly misinterpreted, and its not wat religious books, as far as i know promote !!

[thorny steeple]

Bruh that one was funny so 😂

[high raven]

I know, Islamicate and Islamic isn't the same thing

[whole beacon]

Ooh u mean fundamentalism
Mb

[slender coral]

So, if someone is being an ass I can't call them with the characteristic of their group? Like "the Muslim did that".

[shell hemlock]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Okay I’m out of here lol

[marble seal]

I see it more as a patriarchal issue... though it does happen almost exclusively in muslim countries these days

[high raven]

No no, Islamic means directly tied to Islam as a religion, whereas Islamicate means cultural and social phenomena from Muslim societies, not just strictly religious

[whole beacon]

Yep
Exactly !
Discord <Protracted characteristics>, u have it right.

[gentle wagon]

Who wants to debate?

[thorny steeple]

About what

Pls don’t say religion 😭

[whole beacon]

No its just that the muslim countries are getting premium media coverage by the west 😂😂.

[gentle wagon]

Idk you choose

[marble seal]

Lad enters a fish market and asks..who wants to sell fish

[shell hemlock]

We hear propaganda everywhere

[high raven]

Kurdistan

[shell hemlock]

It takes a few braincells to not get brainwashed by it

[whole beacon]

Yeah, its assimilated with extremism.

[thorny steeple]

No I just woke up I really don’t want to get into war still 😂

[marble seal]

....

[whole beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/atatürk-gif-16106013317126705062

Attakurd is here

[shell hemlock]

Any problem Seph ?

[gentle wagon]

I'll make ww3 wait for me

[thorny steeple]

Welcome

[thorny steeple]

Noooooo

[marble seal]

I remember you making fun of Islamic stuff not so long ago

[gentle wagon]

I'm serious

[marble seal]

And here you are ... Doing the exact opposite

[thorny steeple]

Ik most of the time it’s ww3 here

[shell hemlock]

I don’t make fun of religion, I was an ex Christian and a Catholic

[marble seal]

Eh not really. You don't hear anything about it on the mainstream news

[shell hemlock]

You can have your opinion about me feel free to do so I won’t comment any more on that

[gentle wagon]

😂

[thorny steeple]

They hate everyone

[slender coral]

You can do that. I think no one would try to assassinate you over it

[high raven]

It's such an interesting relationship

[gentle wagon]

Unless...

[marble seal]

https://media.tenor.com/CdmBw5YvoUEAAAAM/victoria-beckham-david-beckham.gif

[shell hemlock]

Thank you so much for indirectly insulting me

[thorny steeple]

Guys let’s not be serious

[slender coral]

Wait, who?

[high raven]

I remember this 😭

[slender coral]

Why Kurdish sense of humor is bad

[shell hemlock]

Here we go again

[marble seal]

I thought it was just some villagers from the 1960s

[thorny steeple]

Let’s see ure starting disrespecting?

Where are u from u looks like Indian

[marble seal]

It's a compliment that I am saying it's not recent

[thorny steeple]

Indian guy?

[marble seal]

But you do you lil vro

[main bison]

They can't even buy a shirt

[thorny steeple]

Nah tell me ure Indian ?

Some Indian guy just yapped

[feral river]

I'm no longer opposed to this idea but, no stans

if it's the State of Kurds I would agree

[high raven]

One day hopefully

[thorny steeple]

Inshallah

[feral river]

or the Kurdish Republic

but Kurdistan, nah

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/kurdish-flag-kurdistan-flag-flag-flags-ala-rengin-gif-13591631

[high raven]

I have to agree with Minecraft

[feral river]

that stan sicks me in my soul

[high raven]

There's too many -stans

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/flag-ikurdish-ikurdishi-iran-iraq-gif-3866126917289360001

[feral river]

I don't like this flag tbh

let me redesign it

[high raven]

Is there another name that would be fitting? Like how India can also use Bharat?

[thorny steeple]

No it’s just Kurdish

[marble seal]

🇮🇱 looks better to you eh?

[feral river]

that does not represent kurdish people anyways

[gentle wagon]

Guys i exposed my coordinates in general chat

[high raven]

How about simply "Kurdia"?

[gentle wagon]

Please don't go there (reverse psychology)

[thorny steeple]

😭 like eh maybe

[tidal oar]

Does that word ever used to be called kurdish people on their own? Or just hoping to get a new name

[slender coral]

Nah bro Kurds are very old

[slender coral]

Stan means land in languages of central Asia it seems.

[high raven]

A female Kurd is called "Kurdiya" in Arabic, male is "Kurdi", so it might be fitting. Me and Minecraft just think there's too many -stans already, 8 is too much

[slender coral]

So Kurdstan = land of Kurds. It's not a religious term.

[feral river]

this one would be better

[high raven]

Those 8 don't even include Baltistan

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[feral river]

or add a sickle with hammer on the original flag

[tidal oar]

Well that's not my answer, you may have a calculation behind it but would you let me know "kurdia " ever used ?

[high raven]

Anything besides this is wrong in my opinion

[feral river]

why not this one

[high raven]

Mine is more historic

[tidal oar]

Whats going

[thorny steeple]

Look Minecraft my Chinese bestie made thissssss for meee

[feral river]

congrats

[marble seal]

So you just tried to reduce me to my skin color....I can hear the racist bs coming from you already

[tidal oar]

Let her go She's young

[high raven]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kurdistan

It's only right for them to use the original flag

[thorny steeple]

Bruh what?! Skin color 😭?

[feral river]

ngl I really love this design

[tidal oar]

[feral river]

that look so nice

[thorny steeple]

Noooo I was talking about appearance is looks like India who the hell talked about skin color 😭😭

[feral river]

omg

I just realized

[thorny steeple]

Yes he’s so kind

[feral river]

you are not a white person

[thorny steeple]

Huh?! Bruh wtf are u saying

[high raven]

😭😭😭

[tidal oar]

Nonsense explanation better

[thorny steeple]

I’m fr bruh

[high raven]

He just lost all respect for you

[tidal oar]

Ofc

[thorny steeple]

Bruh I’m white but what’s wrong with the other color 😭

We are all human 😭

[feral river]

oh gosh

okay may I take a breath

[tidal oar]

Now you're trying to justify

[feral river]

nothing wrong with other color but I expect you to be white

[tidal oar]

U made me smile @thorny steeple

[feral river]

you just said you are white so I feel all nice rn

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[tidal oar]

See you again chat

[thorny steeple]

Anytime 🫶

[feral river]

only Lord knows my obsession of white

[thorny steeple]

I thought ure atheist

[feral river]

I'm religiously fluid, that means I'm atheist but that does not halt me from commiting my faith by saying omfg, Jesus christ, Lord, or anything

religion is just a social constract and my tool to seize benefit

and I also love to say Jesus Christ even I don't believe in Christianity

[thorny steeple]

Btw this pic my Chines friend send it for me he’s name @hoary glen he’s a sweet lovely man

[high raven]

I just noticed that it has your name on it

That's so nice

[thorny steeple]

Yessssssssssssssss my lovely friend do it for meeeeeeee

[feral river]

is he with you in the US ?

oh he sends it

he's not white not you

I get it

[thorny steeple]

Bruh wtf

He’s it’s the lighting 😭

Who cares about skin color

[feral river]

so he's white also ?

[high raven]

You reminded me of a racist joke

[thorny steeple]

Idk and I don’t want to know because idc about skin color

[feral river]

well okay as long as you are white I can take a breath

I'm not a racist but I do care the skin color

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-strange-mob-gif-12413747667150461911

[thorny steeple]

Ure totally is

[feral river]

I'm not a racist as long as I do not discriminate people by their skin color

but I do treat them differently

[spice bobcat]

I'm not racist either. I'm just a turtle

[manic juniper]

"What is the colour of your skin?"

• Some guy on CS

[high raven]

Do you have a ranking of favourite to least favourite?

[feral river]

my DNA tells me whoever has the brighter skin who's beautiful

especially a white East Asian girl with white tights my fav

[spice bobcat]

Ye we know what kind of stuff you watch now lil bro

It's over

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-you-gif-9203462059918813942

[feral river]

there are beautiful girls in darker skin I admit, but in general level of comparison I would prefer the white one

[thorny steeple]

Damn u killed it 💀

[high raven]

Oh so just fair skin preference

That's very common

[feral river]

and they have the holy right to take over everything by their dominant power ?

well that was for occasion because it's very hard to find a powerful nation which the majority of people are black

so it's not about the skin color

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-so-stop-it-eye-roll-gif-14031463038766452232

[feral river]

so for me if I would go on a date I would choose white one

that's just my personal perference, none about racism

[severe burrow]

We need God 🙂

[feral river]

is God white or black

[severe burrow]

@flint cobalt what makes you scared? Wanna drink the blood of a dog, coward?

Nonsense vegansim

Imma eat more meat now khyah

[marble seal]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa_Musa

[slender coral]

Is it a god or a goddess?

I wish we had a matriarchal religion as one of the dominant ones, I feel like such a religion would've been better than the shit we have today.

[gloomy lichen]

and why would u go with "white one"?

[manic juniper]

Main reason why my mum is in favour of mandatory conscription for all

[slender coral]

Isn't it a human rights violation?

Mandatory consciption I mean

[manic juniper]

Don't know but in some countries it's a necessary evil

It's useless in Switzerland and Austria but pretty much needed in Eastern Europe

[neon sierra]

wdym with the i can take a breath

[feral river]

my breath is up to my nose when I'm hearing he's not white

then I take it rest when I realize he's white

[severe burrow]

@thorny steeple what's your fav food , akhi

[thorny steeple]

I like all type of food especially chicken and meat

And dollma and rice and beans with chicken and qaisy

[severe burrow]

Ooh fried chicken?

[severe burrow]

Is that dollma? Never tried that before

But it looks tasty

with Rice

I have heard muslims eat a lot meat

[hoary glen]

[neon sierra]

so you are racist?

[wild glen]

Hello Hello hello

[thorny steeple]

No this one is dollma

https://tenor.com/view/yaprak-sarmasi-dolma-zeytin-yagi-gif-11979205

[thorny steeple]

All the types 😂

[severe burrow]

Ohh where is that food coming from? Arab? why mixing wine?

[thorny steeple]

Idk all the Middle Eastern countries have it

But each of them make it in a different way

[severe burrow]

Do you kno what is that

[severe burrow]

Interesting, where you from

[wild glen]

Don't you see the pcp

[severe burrow]

Interesting, there are muslims living near my house, they eat a lot of chicken

[severe burrow]

Kurdistan?

[prisma cipher]

But no pig

[verbal torrent]

Its ottoman
In turkiye we call “sarma”
i KNOWW it is better than the other versions i just cant prove it

[humble acorn]

beryanii!!

[hoary glen]

This food looks appetizing.

[thorny steeple]

Yes beryani

[thorny steeple]

[neon sierra]

we call it sarma or yaprak here

[thorny steeple]

Ure Algerian?

[neon sierra]

no

I am kurdish 😭😭 wdymm

[thorny steeple]

Whatttttt😭😭😭😭😭

Realllyyyy?😭

[neon sierra]

What did u think

yeah i am kurdish from the northern part tho

[thorny steeple]

Çave men 😭😭🫶

[thorny steeple]

Bruh I didn’t knew 😭

[neon sierra]

its okk lol

people keep making kurdistan jokes idk how u didnt notice lol

[spice bobcat]

Wait those jokes exist?

Impossible

[severe burrow]

Ooh yea that's what they fed me

[severe burrow]

Do you know how to make it

[humble acorn]

it's a famous south asian dish.

[thorny steeple]

Yesssss

[severe burrow]

Oh I see. It's very tasty..

[severe burrow]

Interesting

[humble acorn]

indeed

[thorny steeple]

Be my guest

[severe burrow]

Do you know how to make it

[humble acorn]

no.

[severe burrow]

Sure, one day 😶‍🌫️

[severe burrow]

😭

[spice bobcat]

Fu ma shi

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-meme-meme-chinese-meme-goofy-meme-goofy-ahh-gif-7080462244357555714

[humble acorn]

search the recipe on google or youtube'

[thorny steeple]

Yes I’ll make u beryani and dollma

[severe burrow]

Ooo I tried, but I made it not so good. Prolly I should ask the neighbor Muslim aunt

[severe burrow]

And wine made of fruits? 😶‍🌫️

[thorny steeple]

Only fruit not alcohol in it

[humble acorn]

i see, yes, muslim aunties are always ready to share their recipes, cooking is one of their fav topic to talk about

[severe burrow]

[severe burrow]

yeah, they are kind as long as i dont debate on islam

[mystic granite]

Cooking and gossiping are their most fav things to do lol

[thorny steeple]

Especially when u cooking with your friends

[mystic granite]

Yeah😂

[humble acorn]

avoid debating them, then

[humble acorn]

you enjoy gossiping when it's not about you, but you will become their target anyway,

[mystic granite]

Hahahah yes tru that

[humble acorn]

yeah.

[severe burrow]

Yup

[spice bobcat]

Yo they done bombed Qatar?

Crazy

[slender coral]

Mahshi 😋

We call it that in Egypt

[slender coral]

Hamas?

[turbid dome]

Israel bombed Qatar to kill diplomats

[spice bobcat]

Crazy

[dapper laurel]

Deserved

[slender coral]

What the fuck?

[slender coral]

Why?

[silent sonnet]

Sup guys

So, I have an question

Like, how can I growth my level in this server

[spice bobcat]

Minecraft go back to your original account

[silent sonnet]

I just need to send some pics in calls and etecetera

[slender coral]

You need to write more messages and spend more time in VCs.

[silent sonnet]

Ow, I see

I really spend hours in VCs

I don't know if it changes something

[slender coral]

It will eventually, but it takes time. I think there's a command to see your level in here: https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/976912258963755038

[dapper laurel]

Support Israel for other reasons, for my security ngl

[spice bobcat]

That's fair enough 🤷🏻

[dapper laurel]

Because it is not dignified to host the enemies of a country instead of leaving them to their own fate

[spice bobcat]

So russia should bomb every country where a Ukrainian is living? Because countries are taking Ukrainian refugees

[silent sonnet]

I really don't support any coutry in this war

[dapper laurel]

Qatar hosted Hamas political officials

It's different

[silent sonnet]

Every State are evil, some more than others, but evil in general

[dapper laurel]

They don't bomb countries for no reason, it would be a waste of resources

[turbid dome]

Yes in this case the reason is that by bombing diplomats (illegal under international law, as well as striking into Qatar’s territory, so that’s two violations), they can now shut off the negotiators who have conveniently been accepting every proposal given to them out of desperation. The fact that Israel isn’t responding to ceasefire proposals looks bad for them, so they’d rather stop the negotiations by killing all the negotiators

Because peace isn’t their goal

[spice bobcat]

I agree (smth bizarro Aladdin would say)

[strange iris]

Just because they can doesn’t mean they should, this is a violation of international law, and a mark of netenyahu’s insanity

They have crossed all lines and limits

[dapper laurel]

So you wouldn't bomb a country that hosts the leaders of a terrorist organization who want the total destruction of your country just because international law prohibits it? Nobody cares about international law, as you can see

[limber dagger]

I have nothing in my hands. I am desperate. As for the Israeli terrorist massacre of death, no tongue can describe this death. It is as if death chose us before we chose it. Tears are flowing and hearts are dying in spirit and body.

[strange iris]

Only you don’t care about international law, and keep it to yourself

[dapper laurel]

Qatar might not have hosted leaders of a terrorist organization, Israel only hit them, nothing wrong with it after all

[strange iris]

The fuck…

[dapper laurel]

I would never compromise with people who want the destruction of my country

[strange iris]

What is your country?

[dapper laurel]

Italy

[strange iris]

So how are you related whatsoever to Israel

[dapper laurel]

Israel is defending us from future terrorist attacks by eliminating hamas

[strange iris]

You aren’t compromising, you can’t demolish a building because it has one person you hate

[dapper laurel]

In this case, I support my own interests

[strange iris]

When has hamas attacked Italy?

[dapper laurel]

Two times actually

Not hamas, but other Palestinian terrorist organisations

[strange iris]

So not hamas

You really are sad aren’t you

[dapper laurel]

They're fucking terrorists too

[limber dagger]

Death visited our homes before our graves. I wish we had not been born with the nail of death boiling in our entrails. O people, our souls are like your souls. We are not inanimate, so why the bias?

[dapper laurel]

They will do it again if we let them

https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentato_di_Fiumicino_del_1985

[strange iris]

I consider Israel a fucking terrorist state for bombing Qatar, Lebanon, Syria, Iran

Hamas, however, has never bombed Italy, don’t see what your point is

[dapper laurel]

As long as they don't threaten us like other terrorist groups have done, it's none of my business

[strange iris]

Hamas hasn’t tho smh

[strange iris]

So as long as they terrorize others, you don’t care, sounds about right

[limber dagger]

I cry because of the injustice that has befallen us

[dapper laurel]

They could do it if they had the strength. Israel represents one of the last pillars of the Western world in the Middle East, if they fall, we will be next

[strange iris]

The western world has no place in the Middle East because it’s the fucking Middle East, not the western world

[dapper laurel]

I just follow my interests

[dapper laurel]

So Israel has no right to exist?

[limber dagger]

Stay away from our area

[dapper laurel]

You're so delusional

[dapper laurel]

It's not your area, the master of an area is the one who conquers it

[strange iris]

If you consider Israel a strictly western construct, then yes

[strange iris]

Ok now you sound cringe

[dapper laurel]

Delusional final boss

[strange iris]

I gave you logic, you returned an insult, alright

It seems logic will never work for the self interested, ignorant people who don’t care about others

[limber dagger]

Don't live there. You don't know the meaning of deliberate starvation by America, or deliberate deprivation of education, or constant bombing without reason.

[dapper laurel]

There's no logic behind your reasoning. Being Western is something cultural, everyone can be, if you claim that a country cannot be liberal and Western because it is located in the Middle East, you are just braindead

[strange iris]

So what’s yours is what you take from others

[strange iris]

Israeli people are Europeans, ashkenazi, they aren’t middle eastern

[dapper laurel]

They're bombing for a reason bro, they ain't wasting resources for you 😩

[strange iris]

What I’m understanding is that because you can take something, you should just take it

[limber dagger]

They bomb us so we don't learn or develop.

[dapper laurel]

Wrong, Ashkenazi Jews have part of their DNA from the Middle East, like all Jews. Ashkenazi Jews aren't even the only Jewish group in Israel 💀

I just feel sorry for the Jews, they will be considered too Middle Eastern by Europeans and too European by Middle Easterners

[strange iris]

The other groups of Jews in Israel have a right to live in the Middle East, and no, ashkenazi Jews are more European than Jewish

What I find weird is immigration to the area and entitlement to a country of their own

There’s a reason Orthodox Jews are against Israel

[dapper laurel]

Anyway, it seems a bit racist to me now that you're making it a racial issue

[limber dagger]

Iraq had no illiteracy, but now it is full of ignorance. Algeria, before French colonialism, was one of the largest producers of grains and had advanced sciences outside the battlefield.

[dapper laurel]

You are promoting racial segregation, I point out

[strange iris]

I am saying people shouldn’t demand a country of their own if they immigrate to it and take it by force if not given to them by natives

Just because we discuss a racial issue doesn’t make us racists

[limber dagger]

https://youtu.be/QdFzCYZkMAk?si=XRj0IxxabUJ75iri

[strange iris]

You, on the other hand, advocate for right by power and strength, you, in that case, would just be a thief

[dapper laurel]

I point out to you that Arabs also immigrated to the Levant from the Arabian Peninsula and established their own states. Is this also wrong now?

Delusional

[strange iris]

No? Levantine Arabs have different genetics to Arabs of the Arabian peninsula

Palestinians and Lebanese are the closest genetically to the ancient Canaanite peoples of the Levant

[limber dagger]

The Syriacs are still present and were not killed by the Arabs.

[dapper laurel]

It is partly correct, the Arabs settled in the Levant after conquering those areas, that's why the people there were assimilated and have mixed origins now

[strange iris]

You’re not self interested… you’re just pro Zionism, otherwise it would have stopped with “defending ourselves against terrorist”

[arctic heart]

Israel just bombed Qatari capital Doha targeting Hamas leader

[dapper laurel]

But before that the people of the Levant had independent Christian cultures

[uncut tiger]

are they testing their american fireworks again

[arctic heart]

And it’s the site is near to my house 😭😭

[uncut tiger]

are you qatari

[arctic heart]

No I’m a resident

[limber dagger]

Is this normal?

[uncut tiger]

in doha?

[arctic heart]

Yeah

[dapper laurel]

Yeah bro, I think Jews have a right to a state, anything against it lol?

[strange iris]

Yes and this person I’m arguing with thinks it’s deserved and Israel has every right to

[arctic heart]

I mean it’s a small country

[uncut tiger]

stay safe dude

[limber dagger]

Is this normal?

[strange iris]

They can have their state elsewhere, not in other people’s lands

[arctic heart]

Tf how can a country interfere with other countries sovereignty

[arctic heart]

It’s normal now

[arctic heart]

It’s under control no civilians killed

[dapper laurel]

Where do you make their state, in Antarctica? Temperature IQ

[strange iris]

You’re Italian, give the zios a piece of your home

[limber dagger]

I see 🙈

[strange iris]

It’s not the business of anyone in the Middle East

[limber dagger]

For you, the lives of Arabs are not important. Wait for the circles of time.

[viral ore]

Guys

Where can I search for scholarship

[strange iris]

Dm me I can help

[dapper laurel]

But it is the land with which they have the most cultural ties

Keep yapping man

[strange iris]

So? They massacre the people of the land they no longer live in to take it back because it was promised 3000 years ago?

Can I kill the people I sold my house to and take the house back?

[dapper laurel]

We'll see if Allah will do anything to me

I'll wait

[coral belfry]

yes Antarctica is the perfect place

[limber dagger]

There will come a generation that is very strong, mighty, stubborn, and effective in what it wants.

[strange iris]

No he should give them his home

If he loves them so much

[dapper laurel]

It didn't go that way man

[coral belfry]

i agree with you on this one !

[dapper laurel]

Arabs wanted war, so here's your war

[strange iris]

It is going that way this very second

[limber dagger]

[strange iris]

It did go that way, 1948

[dapper laurel]

When did the Arabs attack first? 😂

LOL

[limber dagger]

[dapper laurel]

Help me God (if you exist) to deal with these people

[limber dagger]

Even in Islam it doesn't work that way.

[strange iris]

A country was given independence by a colonial entity, an invader

The natives didn’t like it because it’s their home, not Britain, or the ashkenazis of europe

Their land was stolen from them

[dapper laurel]

So what do Jews have to do with all this?

[dapper laurel]

It's a pretty racist claim

[strange iris]

You’re saying this as if the Jews didn’t want this either

[strange iris]

Not remotely

Wanting land back from invaders isn’t racist

[dapper laurel]

So why shouldn't I live in the Middle East, just because I have European blood?

[strange iris]

You could live here, just don’t come demanding a state of your own and taking people’s homes

[limber dagger]

You say I want to kill all Arabs

[dapper laurel]

If there are so many of us, it's obvious that it will happen, and I don't understand why we shouldn't fight for our rights

Since Arab countries aren't very democratic

[strange iris]

There weren’t even many of you in 1948

They just kept immigrating

[dapper laurel]

No bro, I'm responsible for what I say, not for what you understand

[dapper laurel]

The same thing is happening in Europe with Arab immigrants. What should I do? Kill them all?

[strange iris]

I guess if you think this way, then you think Levantine people can just immigrate to Italy in the thousands and start demanding a state and their “rights”

[strange iris]

Well, are they demanding independence and a state?

I think if they ever do, kill them

[dapper laurel]

It already happened in the Roman empire and it wasn't that tragic

[strange iris]

But they didn’t

[strange iris]

Ok?

[dapper laurel]

Tf bro

[strange iris]

Yes, I am all for protecting the integrity of my state and yours

Not just mine

If immigrants start demanding a state and independence, perform a nakba like event to your people, lay claim on lands they don’t own, feel free to defend your lands and selves

I thought you were self interested

But I guess you’re not even self interested, you’re only interested in Zionism, not even yourself

You contradict your own views a lot

Which is not surprising for Zio-sympathizer

[turbid dome]

Nobody is demanding to create a colony in italy

[severe burrow]

protecting yourself isnt bad

[turbid dome]

They're not saying that actually the berbers have a right to southern italy and they were chosen by god and italians resisting is bad

[dapper laurel]

I just don't give a fuck

[turbid dome]

Immigration isn't the same as colonization

[dapper laurel]

This is not even the case with Israel since Hamas is not resisting, because that is not their goal, they want to destroy Israel

[turbid dome]

Hamas is smoking Israeli soldiers in gaza rn lmao. Are you saying if tunisians came over and established a state in southern italy that southern italians don't have a right to resist?

[severe burrow]

hamas should be eliminated

[dapper laurel]

If they don't have the strength, no, it would just be a bloodbath

You can simply emigrate

[turbid dome]

It would be a bloodbath either way, can I steal your house if I get a tank? You shouldn't resist. You should be happy. It would be a bloodbath

[marble seal]

*Be ethnically cleansed you mean

[dapper laurel]

Anyway the problem would be Hamas, not even the Arabs themselves

[dapper laurel]

I won't be happy about it, but I wouldn't put a bomb on myself trying to stop you either

[turbid dome]

Do you condemn every italian who tries to resist me taking over italy?

[dapper laurel]

I don't condemn them, but I would consider them stupid if they don't have the strength to resist lol

Yeah bro let's resist so they will kill us

[turbid dome]

So why does one group get condemnation and the other doesn't?

[dapper laurel]

Because one group has started the conflict and aims at the elimination of a state and possibly an ethnic group, the other is simply oppressed by a superior force

[turbid dome]

What if the goal is to get rid of italians anyways

[marble seal]

Ig they should have also given up in ww2

[dapper laurel]

You would have a territory poor in resources and manpower, it wouldn't be useful

[turbid dome]

One group started the conflict by existing in their homes until some settlers landed with their boats and the settlers tried to eliminate them?

[dapper laurel]

As far as I'm concerned, fascists can go to hell

[turbid dome]

lmao

[turbid dome]

no irony detected

[marble seal]

You really don't know how similar their propaganda is right now to Nazi propaganda right?

It's the same fucking playbook....

[turbid dome]

https://zionism.wtf/#zionist-or-nazi

Fun quiz

[dapper laurel]

The conflict could have ended with the 1948 agreements, but guess what happened instead. It could have happened anywhere, it happened in Palestine, what should they have done?

[uncut tiger]

🇮🇱

[turbid dome]

Not created a settler colony, maybe they could've done something like peacefully live alongside the palestinians

instead of oppress them and create a state

[wind bramble]

lemme give it another toffff toff

[turbid dome]

or how about this: blood doesn't tie you to a land

[dapper laurel]

In your opinion, can a democratic and Western culture coexist with a culture that is not?

[dapper laurel]

Palestinians would have had their own state lol

[marble seal]

At this point what you are doing is whataboutism because he's beating you at every turn

So instead of answering him..and admitting that you are wrong....you keep asking about other stuff

[uncut tiger]

[dapper laurel]

It's a rhetorical question, the answer is clear

[uneven citrus]

indians hating everything atp

[marble seal]

Doesn't matter..you keep running away

[turbid dome]

Do you think culture is this magical inherent thing or do you think it could be shaped by actions... such as slaughtering an entire population may traumatize and radicalize them

[dapper laurel]

That's right, but a land to settle in had to be chosen, don't you think?

[turbid dome]

Yes but they actually had houses there before they were stolen

[turbid dome]

No, why does there need to be a settlement

[spice bobcat]

Sarr we matter dond say dat

[uncut tiger]

And I'm not indian

[turbid dome]

west indian (pakistani)

[spice bobcat]

Denial

[dapper laurel]

Jews have a Western heritage culture because they have lived in Europe for hundreds of years, at least part of them. However, have you ever considered that the Jews themselves might have been radicalized?

[spice bobcat]

Second stage of homosexuality

[marble seal]

Lil bro....you really are clueless. They are still creating illegal settlements. The only reason Gaza and the west bank wasn't taken when they took the rest of the country was because Egypt had control over Gaza and i think it was either Lebanon/Jordan that had west bank

[uncut tiger]

[turbid dome]

Yes, that's a great argument for integration. Also yes, as an ashkenazi Jewish person I have certainly been radicalized by seeing Israelis slaughtering palestinians

[turbid dome]

jordan

[uncut tiger]

🇰🇵

[dapper laurel]

Because otherwise what is happening in Africa will happen, a place where borders were drawn with the ass and now several ethnic groups in the same country are in conflict. An ethnic group needs a state to survive

[turbid dome]

Kim Jong Un will save us

[spice bobcat]

A rare pakichu has spawned

[marble seal]

They never really intended to let Palestinians have their own state..... Or do we need to educate you on the Oslo accords and what they did to their own president?

[uncut tiger]

🇺🇸

|| They Not giving visa ||

[dapper laurel]

And if the Palestinians were peaceful there would be no problems, but they never have been. You guys see history only towards one direction

[turbid dome]

You mean the continent full of constant western military intervention? At least Palestine isn't like Africa, where there's constant conflict, genocide... oh wait there is and It's worse than much of Africa right now. Meanwhile in the US, there are many ethnic minorities like Jews surviving

[dapper laurel]

I don't defend illegal settlements, but Gaza is another matter

[marble seal]

Ah yes stop resisting while I take over everything

[dapper laurel]

But the United States is not meant to be an ethnic state because it is liberal, bro, what are you yappin'?

[turbid dome]

Telegram to Poland, 1939

[marble seal]

You never know.... Italians were also fascist back then

[dapper laurel]

Okay, so resist and die, that would be your solution? Do you realize that it is impossible for Hamas to win and, without surrendering, continue to cause the deaths of civilians?

[turbid dome]

Ok but you just said an ethnicity needs a state of it's own to survive. Do you think the middle east is inherently anti-liberal or do you think bombing it and doing coups has something to do with the fact that every time a democracy pops up it is crushed

[marble seal]

Again...you run away from the topic cuz you know you look like a clown

Jesus Christ

Lord have mercy on your soul

[turbid dome]

Iran used to have a democracy with elections, but then the Prime Minister wanted to audit foreign oil companies... and they got a monarchy backed by the US. And then we talk about why the middle east isn't liberal.

[marble seal]

But...but...we drew random lines on the map and turned them into countries....why don't they have peace ? 😔

[turbid dome]

ikr

[dapper laurel]

In a liberal society this does not happen because people have enough individual freedoms, moreover the different ethnic groups present in the United States have a state outside of it, so it's simply nonsense. If you see, in the Middle East people are quite averse to liberal values, so I see it as difficult that a democracy can arise any time soon. One hope would be the Kurds, but they do not have an official state

[marble seal]

Kurds are nothing but useful idiots. They will always be used and then abandoned

[dapper laurel]

It is you who does not answer the topic by uselessly invoking a God

[marble seal]

Answering you brings no one anywhere my man...you answer an answer by another question because you know your positions are shitty

[dapper laurel]

It was a corrupt democracy because of US intervention, and now Iranians don't even want a democracy

[turbid dome]

1. The US has plenty of ethnic groups without a state outside of it. 2) The middle east isn't liberal because we keep destroying any attempt at reform when it doesn't align with our financial interests. 3) If you want liberal democracy in the middle east then not supporting a radicalizing force like Israel would be ideal

[dapper laurel]

I ask you questions that you simply don't know the answer to, that's what I see

[marble seal]

Ah yes ignore all the answers given before....you think people are stupid or something and can't scroll up?

[turbid dome]

It was destroyed by US intervention, Iranians were obviously radicalized by a brutal monarchy which massacred them

[marble seal]

Stop gaslighting...you look like an even bigger clown fam

[marble seal]

Unless you have a learning disability...in that case I'm sorry I made fun of your disability

And I wish you a very good day

[dapper laurel]

1. Even if that were the case (and it would be reduced to sporadic homes) it is not a problem because they are liberal.
2. Throughout history, there have been more cases in which the West has tried to subvert non-democratic and sovereignist governments, rather than vice versa
3. Supporting Israel is the first step to maintaining liberal and democratic values, I don't expect them to spread on their own without it

[turbid dome]

We must achieve liberal democracy by checks notes supporting a fascist state which seeks to exterminate all ethnic minorities

[dapper laurel]

Yes bro, keep ignoring the topic

70 IQ

[marble seal]

Damn those are big words! Good boy!

[turbid dome]

1. seems in direct contradiction with, to quote you earlier "An ethnic group needs a state to survive" 2) It's all about power and economic interests, it's not about democracy. 3) Israel isn't even liberal so that doesn't make sense, unless you think liberalism is when you wipe out an entire ethnic group

[marble seal]

I'm sure you can do better if you keep practicing

[dapper laurel]

1. list these ethnic groups for me then
2. Israel is liberal, it is a democracy, it has extensive civil rights and even allows Arabs to live within it without too many problems, see this behavior on the part of other Arab countries

[turbid dome]

1. African Americans as an example 2) Almost every word is opposite reality, impressive

https://zionism.wtf/#zionist-or-nazi let me know your score

[marble seal]

stop trying to show him his reflection.....he might get scared 😭

[dapper laurel]

African Americans are an integral part of the United States, paradoxically, their country is the United States

You could have mentioned the American Indians, it would have made things more difficult for me

[static pivot]

fake term

[dapper laurel]

As for being liberal, the question is actually even more complex

[turbid dome]

Yet they're classified distinct from white settlers in the US and have no other state besides the US... American Indians were genocided so they technically form their own sovereign nations within the US. There's also Roma and various other groups

[dapper laurel]

Even the United States is not truly liberal, if we want to be precise, but we must support democratic liberalism, which is the closest thing to Ancapistan

[turbid dome]

lmao

[dapper laurel]

Because the US classify ethnicities based on race, when it literally isn't the only parameter lol

[marble seal]

Ah yes the italians and irish are also a race

[turbid dome]

Yes it also has to do with cultural background. There are distinct cultural differences as a result of slavery, segregation, and discrimination

[manic juniper]

When will us Kvens get a state in Finnmark, Norway

[dapper laurel]

In truth, the Roma are an ethnic group originating from India, also quite conservative in their traditions, therefore they have a state

[turbid dome]

How does that mean they have a staate

[marble seal]

you can always ask putin to help you with that

[turbid dome]

They're literally nomadic 💀

[dapper laurel]

So they chose not to have an organized state

[turbid dome]

You just said ethnic groups need states to survive and now apparently they don't

Which is it

[dapper laurel]

Will they survive in the long term?

Or will they be assimilated slowly?

As is already happening

[turbid dome]

They've been stateless for hundrreds of years and still survive

[marble seal]

bro does not know about the travellers

[dapper laurel]

At least in Europe

[marble seal]

and their culture

[turbid dome]

If you have to track it over thousands of years that's just the normal process of cultures merging. Italian culture as it exists today didn't exist 1000 years ago

[dapper laurel]

Because before they were simply expelled from nation to nation, but now they are slowly assimilating, so no, they will not survive as an ethnic group

[turbid dome]

No group survives forever lmao

We're talking about over a thousand years of being stateless

[dapper laurel]

Unless it's being oppressed by another group lol

[dapper laurel]

Yes, and now they are disappearing

[manic juniper]

He's an Udmurt, he wouldn't serve our interests

[turbid dome]

So it has nothing to do with a state, Italian only became a thing in the 19th century, what happened to all the identities before then? They got folded in under Italian, same thing is happening

By that estimation the Roma survived stateless longer than many ethnicities with a state

[manic juniper]

We need a Suur-Meänmaa that extends from Finnmark, Norway to Tornionjokilaakso in Sweden

[turbid dome]

Great example of this is actually jewish identity survived for thousands of years with no state

Israel has no correlation to Jewish identity surviving

[dapper laurel]

It's a natural process; other cultures didn't survive because the Italian state existed. However, no, they did not merge, locally there are still some traces, but in truth the Florentine models were adopted

When I speak "Italian", I'm just speaking a Florence old language

[turbid dome]

I didn't say they merged. And yes, that natural process is the same thing as with the Roma

[dapper laurel]

Nothing more

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-marmotte-cool-chewing-gum-relax-gif-16332139652507739226

[dapper laurel]

Yes and they were being finished off by the Nazis lol

What a bad example

[marble seal]

damn they bombed qatar

wtf..

[turbid dome]

And the holocaust ended without Israel existing... you could've pointed at the reconquista as the same thing yet there's still jews in spain

[dapper laurel]

The Holocaust ended only thanks to countries that were pro-Israel existence

[turbid dome]

It had nothing to do with anyone caring about Israel or Judaism, Jewishness, etc... they were concerned about German expansionism and didn't give a shit about the holocaust, if they did they would've invaded in 1933

[dapper laurel]

It is true, but it cannot be denied that the same countries that put an end to Nazism contributed to the creation of Israel, instead of continuing the work

[marble seal]

Man.... I wish some people read a couple of history books...or even some actual articles

before yapping

[turbid dome]

Because Israel was in their economic interests...

[marble seal]

would really save themselves the embarrassment

[dapper laurel]

And, following your reasoning, then it was just a coincidence and if they hadn't been scared of German expansionism, then they would have let the Holocaust happen, so no Jews

[turbid dome]

Also if it's true that it had nothing to do with Jewish people, Israel, or Judaism... then why bring it up?

[turbid dome]

There were plenty of Jews in other countries, plenty who escaped, lmao

[manic juniper]

The Shias are trying to destroy the Jews, will they succeed or will they fall just like all the other political entities that attempted it?

Will there be a final showdown between the two?

[turbid dome]

Unironically Zionism comes out of the view that Jews are permanent victims, and somehow special

Thinking Jewish people are exceptional in that way is actually antisemitic 💀

[dapper laurel]

And the Nazis invaded many of those countries. We know that one of the main goals of the Nazis was the elimination of the Jews themselves, so it's just inconsistent

[thorny steeple]

Guys did ya all saw the isreal attack in Qatar

[turbid dome]

Yes well the Nazis couldn't maintain their war economy and would have collapsed as everyone collectively worked against them. Countries are selfish, imaginging a world where countries forget about their own economic interest and using it as a hypothetical is silly

[turbid dome]

yeah i saw

[manic juniper]

That's complete dogshit, I can excuse ethnic cleansing or genocide but creating a new country, making borders more difficult to draw and adding more countries to remember is fully immoral, I will never forgive Zionists for this

[thorny steeple]

I think isreal is really getting out of control

[turbid dome]

lmao what part

[turbid dome]

always has been

[manic juniper]

Them creating a new country for reasons other than giving Jews a country, that's just insane to me

They made borders more difficult to remember for the sake of it. Fuck this

[dapper laurel]

Because of this ancapistan is the solution, no state at all

[turbid dome]

The early zionists wrote it was about creating an outpost of western civilization

[dapper laurel]

I'm supporting Israel because I support ancapistan

Ok, I lost the plot

https://tenor.com/view/having-fun-dance-party-jump-celebration-gif-17166415

[manic juniper]

Israel is not ancap enough, we need a state for every person in order to achieve Ancapistan

We need every human to be their own ethnicity

[dapper laurel]

The perfect place for ancapistan is Iceland

[dapper laurel]

True

[manic juniper]

Iceland already is akin to Ancapistan

You should visit it someday

[dapper laurel]

Already done

This summer, actually

[manic juniper]

How did an Italian survive off Icelandic food