🧠｜serious-chat

[vocal quest]

Who is the true god here

[sullen cedar]

I want a Christian people to answer this those who believe that Jesus is God ?

[twilit holly]

I believe He is the eternal and begoten son

Zacheriah 12:10-14

[manic juniper]

99% of Christians do

[sullen cedar]

Show me in bible

[twilit holly]

He is the son of God

Book of Hebrews

[high raven]

Doing well, yourself?

[sullen cedar]

In bible say that God is not a man or human

[turbid ivy]

Only True God and Jesus christ. When the true God comes, name of Christ comes with that true God, cause christ is not seperate

[sullen cedar]

Do u believe bible?

Ofc u do

Then answer this it’s in bible

[turbid ivy]

More than i believe in myself

[turbid ivy]

I just did

[snow knot]

Finally some believers of god

[vocal quest]

Ah I'm happy to hear that you're well
I'm doing good too
Btw do u wanna chat

I mean here on any topic

Or normal conversation

[high raven]

Hi The verse you sent shows the Father as the true God and Jesus as the one sent for our salvation, this fits the Trinity: Father as God, Son as God, yet distinct persons

[turbid ivy]

oh yeah, why do you think prositution is good for the society?

[snow knot]

I had hard time against atheists

[sullen cedar]

But in bible said God can’t not be a man? And God sent Jesus it’s mean they are not the same

(I’m going to the father the father that greater than I ) that’s in bible

[vocal quest]

Well it stops the men from doing the wrong thing to another female because of lust
Secondly those who are prostitutes get money to help their family

[turbid ivy]

No, it doesn't say he can't be a man, it says God is not a man, it doesn't say he can't become a man.

Now, this is alinged with Christian doctrine, becaue Divine nature of Jesus is called God. So yeah, he is God. What about the human nature? well, the human nature is not God. It's just assumed by the person of christ.

[high raven]

John 1:14

[solemn frost]

John 1:14 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<14> And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.

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[vocal quest]

If you say men should control it
If they could there wouldn't be rapes or people don't choose prostitution

[high raven]

God did not change into a man but took on flesh while remaining God

[vocal quest]

Reincarnation?

[high raven]

Regarding your second point, I think John 10:30 fits it

[solemn frost]

John 10:30 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<30> I and the Father are one."

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[sullen cedar]

Numbers 23:19. God can’t be a man

[solemn frost]

Numbers 23:19 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<19> God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfil it?

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[turbid ivy]

When he sleeps with woman that she is not his wife, he is already comitting the wrong act.

There are many ways to earn money, selling bodies just for money is about greeds

[turbid ivy]

Well, it says he is not man, it doesn't say he can't be a man.

As i said, the divine nature is called God. Christ's divine nature is God. while his distinct human nature is not divine .

[high raven]

Civil discussions, so far

[vocal quest]

So do you think he should force his wife to sleep with him or what if he doesn't have a wife
Will he gonna stop
I think not
When people say prostitutes do it because of greed
Well not all the time
Not everyone is OF girls
A society where females are helpless because they don't have support of male
They can't get work
And they needed to support Themselves or their family people tend to do it

[sullen cedar]

presents God as one being in three co-equal, co-eternal persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit

three God

!?

He can’t be a man it’s saying in bible and even here it’s saying Jesus sent by God

[turbid ivy]

A lustful man wouldn't satisfy no matter how many women he would acquire

[snow knot]

Yes it is true

[formal pilot]

Look, the lamb of God

[sullen cedar]

He even say ( the father who greater than I)

[sullen cedar]

Yes

[turbid ivy]

Nope, He just gotta be patience, at the right moment, he will sleep with his wife.

Why they can't go to work? who' stopping them?

[twilit holly]

That is something that happens more often than you belive.

📖 Hebrews 1:8–9

"But about the Son He says:
‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has set You above Your companions
by anointing You with the oil of joy.’"

---

Contrast with the Gospels

1. In Hebrews 1:8–9 → the Father addresses the Son as “God.”

   • Literary figure: apostrophe (direct address).
   • Theological meaning: affirms the Son’s divinity while also showing His relation to the Father (“God, Your God, has anointed You”).

2. In the Gospels (Matthew 27:46; John 17:3; Matthew 26:39; John 11:41–42; Luke 23:46) → the Son addresses the Father as “God” or “Father.”

   • Literary figure: apostrophe again.
   • Theological meaning: highlights the Son’s dependence, obedience, and intimacy with the Father during His earthly mission.

---

📌 The contrast:

• In Hebrews → the Father calls the Son “God.”
• In the Gospels → the Son calls the Father “God” and “Father.”

This mutual apostrophe emphasizes:

• The unity of divinity (both are called God).
• The distinction of roles (the Father anoints; the Son is anointed and obeys).

[solemn frost]

Hebrews 1:8-9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<8> But of the Son he says," Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom. <9> Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee with the oil of gladness beyond thy comrades."

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Matthew 27:46 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<46> And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice," Eli, Eli, la'ma sabach-tha'ni?" that is," My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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John 17:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<3> And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

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Matthew 26:39 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<39> And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed," My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt."

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John 11:41-42 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<41> So they took away the stone. And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said," Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. <42> I knew that thou hearest me always, but I have said this on account of the people standing by, that they may believe that thou didst send me."

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Luke 23:46 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<46> Then Jesus, crying with a loud voice, said," Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!" And having said this he breathed his last.

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[tender vessel]

Degenerate bastards little pieces of shit targeting medical and civil defense staff directly.

[high raven]

Using chatgpt here should be a bannable offence

[turbid ivy]

Ehh, how is that three God?

[snow knot]

People with half knowledge use chatgpt

[twilit holly]

Read it

[snow knot]

Ur username suggests what u are

[tender vessel]

@turbid ivy Not a genocide, ha? Those who support the Israeli occupation are disgusting. They make me sick!

[sullen cedar]

so it’s all Jesus is not God

[high raven]

Just a “tragic mishap” and their military is "investigating"

[twilit holly]

Read what i said up here

[turbid ivy]

Dude, i have no support of deliberate attack

[sullen cedar]

Jesus prayed he put his head on the ground he prayed for who ?

[turbid ivy]

Ehh, how so?

[manic juniper]

It used to be, I guess not anymore

[turbid ivy]

Praying is a conversation. Their nothing wrong about it

[high raven]

I must've missed this channels glory days

[sullen cedar]

Why he pray when he’s the God ?

[sullen cedar]

Yes I read it

[turbid ivy]

Well, Because he was communicating with the father

[sullen cedar]

Who’s the father? Isn’t it Jesus only one God?

[twilit holly]

Bro you don'r know the basic of christianity

[sullen cedar]

Bruh im trying to understand why they say Jesus is God

He’s not

[tender vessel]

You can't get any more deliberate than that.

[turbid ivy]

Yes he is, one God three persons. God is called the divine nature shared by the persons of the trinity. So christ without any seperation shares the divine nature with the father

[turbid ivy]

Well, i dont' support such attack

[twilit holly]

He was, is and will be the Logos, the meaning of everything's existence

[turbid ivy]

true

[turbid ivy]

Are you a muslim, if i misunderstood?

[tender vessel]

Seriously! They should receive the severest punishments there are.

[turbid ivy]

😐 what was that

[sullen cedar]

How many bible is there? 2?

[tender vessel]

It literally happens EVERY FREAKING DAY.

[turbid ivy]

Ah, can you more clarify your question?

[twilit holly]

Do you mean canonic scrolls?

[turbid ivy]

Well, if it's the case i dont support that act. I was talking about the different topic

[vocal quest]

I don't know which word is stopping the message I tried to adjust but my message became spam

[turbid ivy]

Oh yeah you shouldn't use somekinda cuss words, or you just gotta put --, or star

[vocal quest]

I didn't use any

[turbid ivy]

Alright, go on short this time

[sullen cedar]

King James Version or the new international version the last 12 verses of mark are messing in the new one 🦦

Which one should I believe

🦦

[turbid ivy]

These are translations. the NIV is more recent translation of the bible.

[vocal quest]

I would just say humans have flaws not everyone can be saint
Not everyone have patience
How about doing normal work
Well society isn't so kind to everyone

Different society different issues

[turbid ivy]

Well, it depends, if you think LE of mark or other modern translations don't put those verses, you can go through them.. else use DRA or KJV

[turbid ivy]

Well, he gotta be patience, if he is forcing his wife, it's not love, he gotta learn to love her

[vocal quest]

If the men have flaws
What he gonna do

Not everyone can be good person

[turbid ivy]

He better should work on his flaws to be patience

[sullen cedar]

Who died in the cross?

[turbid ivy]

That's why you need God

[turbid ivy]

Jesus who else would die

[vocal quest]

What if he is very religious

[sullen cedar]

How God can die ?

[vocal quest]

He doesn't die
Soul Don't die it's just left the body

Isn't too simple

I know you don't guys have reincarnation stuff

[turbid ivy]

If he doesn't know how to love his wife, im sure his religion is in vain

[sullen cedar]

So u say human nature died? Then what’s happened to the Devine nature?

[turbid ivy]

God is the divine nature, by defination, it doesnt' die. Human nature do die

[turbid ivy]

It didnt die, hence the person of the christ remains alive

[vocal quest]

Then if he goes to prostitute
It's just safe his wife from lust and shity action

[gritty echo]

Is it the reason why catholic priests love young boys

[turbid ivy]

Well, then he doesn't love his wife. He gotta learn to not look with other women with lust that he is not married to. In fact, he is not being faithful towards his wife.

[twilit holly]

You don't seek the truth in Christ, you make questions to make fun of the doctrines, you will never be saved that way, you will never reach the truth.

I was ateist when i was 17teen years old when I belive in Christ, and it wasn't from night to morning. It was eventually meanwhile I read the bible I would become like you , heart hardened and unfaithful. But then i realized I was reading with the intention of rebuking what was written so instead of doing that , I started reading with an openminded and then everything made sense.

[sullen cedar]

How God can be killed ?

[turbid ivy]

There are abuses goin on in many churches. THose men are not faithful towards their religion.

[sullen cedar]

Bruh im not I believe that Jesus is the prophet of God not God

[turbid ivy]

God by nature is divine, you can't kill the divine nature

[gritty echo]

So you are saying, they aren't actually christians , it isn't true Christianity

[vocal quest]

In eastern religions
Soul are always divine they're fragments of supreme itself
The soul has to go through several lives to truly become divine
In god's case
He just go back his orginal itself after teaching human in human way
By showing even gods have to learn and suffer and improve
If god can why can't humans

[twilit holly]

Then you are not believing in the real Jesus , there a a bunch of Jesus in the history but there is only one who died on the cross!!

[turbid ivy]

What does it actually meant to be a christian?

[sullen cedar]

Bible say God can’t be a man 🦦

[gritty echo]

Tell it to me , I'm not Christian you are

[vocal quest]

Well I have seen guys who are married they love their wife a lot
But they sometimes go prostitutes so they don't show their shitty side to their wives
I know it may sound like an excuse but not everyone can have patience and be calm

[sullen cedar]

Then God died? How God put himself in a position of weakness?

[turbid ivy]

Is is not can't

and i have already answered your question. He didnt change his divine nature into a human nature, but instead the second person of the trinity assumed the human nature. I

[gritty echo]

Is Jesus God ?

[sullen cedar]

No

[turbid ivy]

Someone who follows the techings of christ.
Abusing little young boys is considered as a sin. SO obs it's not coming from Christianity

[vocal quest]

I'm not christian so I don't know
In eastern religions
Gods always descend on earth in human form to reform the society
By being born as human
And die as human

[gritty echo]

God is the only one , why people believe Jesus is a god

[sullen cedar]

(God is immortal God can’t die ) it’s in bible

[formal pilot]

Ironic

[turbid ivy]

Ohh, how do you prove God is one?

[gritty echo]

Bruh

[turbid ivy]

I totally agree

[manic juniper]

Death is just a biological process, it doesn't affect a supernatural being

[vocal quest]

How u gonna make understand a rich guy what poverty feels like unless u he left his fortune to live like poor and understand the way of poor

[gritty echo]

Bro is saying there is more than one god

[manic juniper]

Death doesn't affect or weaken your soul, it simply destroys your physical body

[sullen cedar]

(No one has seen God in any time ) it’s in bible But Jesus can be seen people saw him

[gritty echo]

Two creators, seriously

Or 3 or something

[turbid ivy]

who said there is one more than one God?

You said God one, where did you get that from?

[formal pilot]

Supernatural beings are massless spaceless timeless

[gritty echo]

From holy books

[turbid ivy]

Such as?

[vocal quest]

Well what if there's one
But he has several forms and way
Every form is different from other

[sullen cedar]

In bible say God can not be a man God can’t be seen at any timeee

[gritty echo]

Such as ? What do you mean such as ,

[turbid ivy]

Which holy books are you talking about?

[twilit holly]

Read book to Romans from Paul , you will understand everything, he even explain how Jesus humbled himself, taking off his glory and becoming like one of us to suffer and live the life just like us with temptations and suffering.

There is a doctrine about that, it was meant to become a man like that way, but if you want to understand that, you must read it seriously and be strong in order to overcome your contradiction thoughts

[vocal quest]

Like I said I'm not christian
Here god descends or is born as human to teach the humans and end the chaotic era

By vanauishing evils

Or show a new path to humankind

[gritty echo]

Bible, Quran

[turbid ivy]

And you think both books are holy?

[vocal quest]

There are 4000+ religion
Which gods are true or real??

[twilit holly]

Hebrews 1:8–9

[solemn frost]

Hebrews 1:8-9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<8> But of the Son he says," Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom. <9> Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee with the oil of gladness beyond thy comrades."

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[gritty echo]

I mean they are abrahimic religions , Judaism, Christianity, Islam

[vocal quest]

True
Soul just transforming with new life and experience

[gritty echo]

3 of them

[turbid ivy]

Well, but they contradict eachother so obs they are not all holy, right?

[vocal quest]

That's why I kinda don't like abrahamic faith
They keep fighting

Always make other wrong

Themselves as right

[gritty echo]

So which one is true

[formal pilot]

Without being violent they wouldn't have survived that region lol

[turbid ivy]

That's the question i should i ask you.., which one do you think is true

[vocal quest]

The one who doesn't like to say I'm true or doesn't like to poking their nose

[vocal quest]

True

Judaism mischief

[gritty echo]

Hey don't try to distort my question, just answered it

[turbid ivy]

Well, if you meet jews.. they utterly outragious against christians

[vocal quest]

Yeh that's true

They each don't like eachother

[turbid ivy]

Well, then you believe there is one God, right? and you got that from the bible and the quran, so i assume you believe both of those books are holy?

[gritty echo]

Even in the same religion, they are fighting

[vocal quest]

Jew - christian and Muslim
Christan - Muslim
Muslim - every religion

[vocal quest]

Yep

[turbid ivy]

Well, we christians dont hate people personally. It's just we disagree with their religions.

[sullen cedar]

(No one have ever seen God ) but Jesus can be seen.

(Jesus put his head on the ground and pray )
How ? Who he prayed for? How God pray for God??

(Hod is all knowing but Jesus didn’t know the hour writing in bible )

Jesus on the cross said “father why have u forsaken me “ why he said that if he was God 🦦 #

[gritty echo]

Orthodoxs fight with Catholics , Sunnis fighting with shia s

[vocal quest]

Disagreement creates hate

Lol

[gritty echo]

I don't say anything about my Beliefs

[turbid ivy]

God is the divine nature.. the divine nature can't be seen.

[vocal quest]

Hm why

Even evil can sense divine

[turbid ivy]

Ah, well, no. We are supposed to love our neighbours or we are just not following our religion

[vocal quest]

Well I can see in history

And Jesus becoming white

[gritty echo]

For me both of them aren't holy, they are just random religions

[turbid ivy]

Good.. so, what do you think... do you believe God exists?

[sullen cedar]

Bruh 😂 then why Jesus said to the father when he died on the cross “why have u forsaken me?”

[turbid ivy]

History also reprents that people failed to keep their faith

[gritty echo]

Are you sure about that

[formal pilot]

Jews are muslims with windows xp

[vocal quest]

Maybe some high humans specious created us

[gritty echo]

We need to ask Africans , Asians and Americans

For this question

[vocal quest]

I'm not talking about this

[turbid ivy]

There is no biblical passage that suggest whether jesus was white or black... mere assumption is a mockery of Jesus

[gritty echo]

Well they arent happy because of the colonial empires with using the religion

[turbid ivy]

Of course

[turbid ivy]

Read Pslam 22

[gritty echo]

Even Orthodox people don't like catholics

[vocal quest]

I'm talking about how many Invasions or war happened
Because certain religion think
They need to preach right faith

[gritty echo]

Because Catholics raid Constantinople and kill them

[vocal quest]

To others

[gritty echo]

And you are saying we are nice with our neighbors

[turbid ivy]

Ah, i have never heard about it, they just disagree with few doctrines, they dont personally dislike people

[gritty echo]

Why every world war started in Europe

Then

[turbid ivy]

Sure, that's how failed to keep the faith

[vocal quest]

I don't know if maybe someone said it before the description of Jesus
And he was born in the middle east in ancient times
Even if he was a normal middle eastern or he would be brown or olive skin

[gritty echo]

Why did Indian people die in Europe against Germans in France lands

[turbid ivy]

That shows some failed to keep the faith

[gritty echo]

Or why Australian people died against ottomans in Gallipoli

But you are like neighbors right

[turbid ivy]

That could be. But to be honest, there is no description we notice in the bible. SO, anyone who assumes that he was white or black.. that just mere assumptions.. shouldn't be taken seriously

[gritty echo]

Ask a polish elder to hey do you like Germans or Russians

[gritty echo]

I'm sure he won't be happy about that

[vocal quest]

Well it if u say this it would be called blasphemy during middle ages in Europe

[turbid ivy]

I have already answered that question. if people failed to keep their faith, they are the problems, not christianity

[gritty echo]

Sure always the people problem right not Christianity

[turbid ivy]

Sure, that's the part of the history shows people failed to keep their faith

[turbid ivy]

yeah

[tiny yew]

It depends upon their current situation!

[turbid ivy]

Doesn't have to do anything with their situtions

[vocal quest]

Well u don't need to make assumptions
It's a common Sense of middle eastern being brown unless you're from greek

[tiny yew]

How?!

[vocal quest]

But europeans deliberately make jesus white

[turbid ivy]

That's possible.

[vocal quest]

And african black

[turbid ivy]

You tell me... how does it

[vocal quest]

Or you could say Chinese

[turbid ivy]

yeah they do.. but we are not suppose to do that

[vocal quest]

Making married and Jesus as chinese

[formal pilot]

John 11:35

[solemn frost]

John 11:35 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<35> Jesus wept.

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[turbid ivy]

..

[vocal quest]

Because how could they spread Christianity if Jesus would look different

[gritty echo]

Well Mediterranean people aren't white

[vocal quest]

We know but people did and u can still see today

[gritty echo]

Mostly

In Greece, Italy, Spain

Turkey , north Africans

[vocal quest]

Like the picture or idol of Jesus nowadays is white

[turbid ivy]

Through his teachings.. that game only comes to decieve people but not to spread the gospels

[gritty echo]

Because of that region

[vocal quest]

Not brown

[gritty echo]

[turbid ivy]

yeah they can, but that's not representing christianity

If your answered is clarified. i gotta take a break

[sullen cedar]

@turbid ivy

!? Jesus is asking God for help?!

If Jesus God he could save himself 🤨

unfortunately I got No answer if Jesus was God he would say it clearly but i didn’t see it in anywhere

Whatever

[high raven]

Big text

[turbid ivy]

I have answered this here: https://apologetics-101.com/archives/355

[turbid ivy]

Do you have any other questions?

[sullen cedar]

It is Not the Eyes That Are Blind but the Hearts | Surah Al Hajj | (22:46)

[thorny steeple]

Long live Comrade Trump lol

[feral river]

Deportation could solve every social problem

They are Americans since they have legal status of citizenship of the United States of America

Besides that everybody else is alien/foreigners

And they can be deported for national interest of the USA

TRUMP WILL DEPORT THEM

🇺🇸 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

if necessary even deportation could work on its own citizens even it doesn’t make sense but as long as it benefit the nation it could work

To anywhere that is possible

I heard some places lack of labor why not deport them and assign jobs so US could still tax them outside of the US

Deport them to North Korea or Russia also not bad

[turbid ivy]

Ah, can i ask you a question now?

[sullen cedar]

Sure go ahead

[sullen cedar]

Trump have problems with China but u support him

[turbid ivy]

Is the Koran a physical book?

@high raven what's your denomination

🤔

[formal pilot]

i disagree

[sullen cedar]

It’s a words of Allah So IT’s talking about how the world created how human created the warning for people on earth an advice and information

[turbid ivy]

is it a book?

[sullen cedar]

The Holy Quran is a heavenly book revealed by God for prosperity and guidance of humanity to God. It was sent down on the heart of the Last of Prophets and the Seal of Messengers, Muhammad b. Abdullah peace be upon him and his descendants. The Quran is the eternal miracle of the Prophet of Islam (S). This book was gradually revealed over twenty three years to the Prophet

[feral river]

I just see a senator from texas burned one

[turbid ivy]

is it a physical book

[sullen cedar]

Burning what Quran?

[sullen cedar]

The Quran describes itself as a book of guidance for humankind

And idk what exactly u mean

U trying to say human made quran and the words in Quran is not from God?

[thorny steeple]

lavender giving dawah before gta 6

[wary wing]

Quran is a poor parody on Judaism and it's more popular fanfiction - Christianity

[sullen cedar]

Eren trying to make himself funny again

[turbid ivy]

Is it a physical book?

[sullen cedar]

I answered u I guess if u want ask something else

[turbid ivy]

Is it a physical book?

[sullen cedar]

And besides no one could change one words in Quran book unlike bibles new version

[turbid ivy]

Are you sure?

[sullen cedar]

In the Quran book yes

dead chat

[turbid ivy]

Physical book right?

Tryna avoid the question so hard lol

[sullen cedar]

Yes I expect disrespect from u

It’s not a handmade book so yeah

The words are not from human

[turbid ivy]

Ah, ok cool. So the eternal speech of Allah became a physical book? ahah i see

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

If u read Quran u know

[turbid ivy]

I know, but when you agreed it's a physical book, it's the created one right?

And since it's the speech of allah supposed to be unseperated from him is a physical book? \

So it would imply Allah is made of created things.. ie. he is a creation

[sullen cedar]

Spread from who?

[turbid ivy]

Unseperated... ooh or do you believe it's a separate entity?

Lucky girl, having a cute profile won't let you win lol

[sullen cedar]

Bruh Muhammad is the last prophet of Allah just like I believe Jesus too he’s the prophet of Allah and idk what exactly u mean and if u read Quran u know that it’s not a human words because no human have that kind of knowledge

[turbid ivy]

Irrelevent. Is the word of Allah created?

[hybrid herald]

No

[turbid ivy]

Ohh you mean the the sun has a setting place, that knowledge?

[sullen cedar]

Read Quran

[turbid ivy]

Is the Quran a physical book?

[hybrid herald]

No

[turbid ivy]

Aha, what's that answer? dude tryna avoid so hard

[sullen cedar]

Go read Quran and bring me one wrong thing in it

If u can

[turbid ivy]

Aha so the physical book called the quran you have is not the quran? Where is the original quran

[hybrid herald]

So 604 pages talking only about that

[turbid ivy]

wooo.. see you are not answring.. is the quran a creation?

[turbid ivy]

There are other mistakes

[hybrid herald]

The physical book is some ink on paper

[sullen cedar]

Quran is the words of Allah

[hybrid herald]

The quran is not

Physical

[turbid ivy]

Dont you have the quran which has the ink and the paper

[turbid ivy]

Is that created?

[hybrid herald]

That's the mushaf

Not the quran

[turbid ivy]

So that quran i have as a book, is not physical i see?

[turbid ivy]

Aha so where is the orignal quran?

[hybrid herald]

U have a musehaf

The Quran is the words of allah

[turbid ivy]

Aha and it's not the quran?

[hybrid herald]

The quran is written on it

[turbid ivy]

Ooh so the quran is a book that is written, i see. that makes the quran a physical book

Thanks for saying the quran is created

[hybrid herald]

No the musehaf is quran written

[turbid ivy]

Is the arabic language a creation?

[hybrid herald]

Go ask

[turbid ivy]

, is the arabic language a creation?

[hybrid herald]

Gain a brain

[sullen cedar]

It is Not the Eyes That Are Blind but the Hearts | Surah Al Hajj | (22:46)

[turbid ivy]

AH, what;s your answer? Tryna so hard to not to answer the question lol

[sullen cedar]

I think he can’t find anything wrong in it that’s why he’s confusing

[turbid ivy]

khyaha,, but you didnt answer and now respoding with an insult lol

[hybrid herald]

Yes it is hard to me

[sullen cedar]

U see this as a insult?

Well good for u

[hybrid herald]

She just read a verse

[sullen cedar]

@turbid ivy noubu u follow Jesus right ?

[wary wing]

Islam claims that the Quran is the exact words of God, yes? Christianity says that the Bible was inspired by God. It's pretty smart, theologically speaking, who can even understand God's tongue??? It'd burn your brains

[sullen cedar]

What’s your religion?

If it’s okey to ask

[proven gale]

Yes, you can go to the proper channel and ask your question and I’m happy to help you

[wary wing]

not islam

[sullen cedar]

Hm good

[gloomy lichen]

@flat tulip here

[high raven]

Syriac Orthodox, how about yourself? Evangelical if I remember correctly?

[thorny steeple]

The Quran was written 600 years after the New Testament.And the apostle Paul warned us about evil angel:'But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!".It's interesting that it was an angel who delivered the content of the Qur'an

[formal pilot]

I asked my Palestinian friends, what's the name of angel who takes life

And they got mad at me

[wary wing]

HAMAS

[formal pilot]

Nope

[high raven]

😭😭😭

Out of line but funny nonetheless

[thorny steeple]

is this supposed to be a joke?

[formal pilot]

No, it's a pickup truck

[lime cobalt]

izrail and israel, hmmm

[sullen cedar]

Ure joking at people dying?

[formal pilot]

No

I'd never do that

[sullen cedar]

Then what?

Same thing will happen to u again don’t forget

[lime cobalt]

chill, I guess this joke is meant for Israel

right , alladin ?

[sullen cedar]

Huh?

[formal pilot]

Yes, something will happen to us all

[formal pilot]

Bunch of War criminals

[dapper laurel]

The Palestinians or the Israelis?

[formal pilot]

Hamas and israeli government

[dapper laurel]

Fair, but Israel is the closest thing to Ancapistan

[lime cobalt]

This is satire for Israel, right?

[dapper laurel]

Democracy can easily degenerate into anarchy, it is desirable

[formal pilot]

Open for interpretation

[dapper laurel]

So we have to support Israel

[lime cobalt]

since izrail quite similar with israel

soundly similar

[feral river]

There’s no palestinians

Only Israelis and Israeli arabs

[formal pilot]

I don't have to support them

I loath war criminals

[dapper laurel]

If you want ancapistan, this is the right thing to do

[thorny steeple]

Maybe but do you support Palestine though

[formal pilot]

Please don't ask me to elaborate on a Banger joke, it'll lose the essence

[formal pilot]

Define Ancapistan

[feral river]

We need another great war that should happen elsewhere in the middle east to eliminate terrorists thoroughly

[dapper laurel]

I don't support people who want to oppress me and take away my rights

[formal pilot]

?def ancapistan

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[feral river]

We will win the war against terrorism under absolute force

[thorny steeple]

Anarcho capitalism

[feral river]

And Hail the Prime Minister 🇮🇱 Benjamin Netanyahu

He’s the real hero

[dapper laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

[thorny steeple]

Who doesn't

[formal pilot]

Not my thing

[feral river]

I would like to see who would adopt this and we will take over everything in that country

[thorny steeple]

Are you joking? You know that not all Palestinians are terrorists?In the world are good and bad people , no matter what country this is

[feral river]

😂

[dapper laurel]

Do you want the state to oppress you?

[high raven]

It's bait

[feral river]

Palestinians does not exist

[formal pilot]

Yes, kids in gaza can steal your metal doors

[feral river]

There’s no palestinians

Only Israeli arabs

[thorny steeple]

Very much

[lime cobalt]

Since you’re asking a Palestinian, people will think you’re mocking them lol.

[formal pilot]

Not in ideal condition

[thorny steeple]

What do you mean?

[formal pilot]

All my Palestinian friends know whom I'm standing with lol

[high raven]

It's bait, he's just trolling

[dapper laurel]

Why do you always talk about children, neglecting the adults who live there who are capable of harming us?

[hybrid herald]

Seju where is the war

[feral river]

And waiting either choose to become a terrorist or as Israeli arabs

[hybrid herald]

[feral river]

Let’s see if they can call themselves Palestinians after 5 years

[formal pilot]

Alright an adult from gaza can steal your window and sell it for recycling

[feral river]

We have a lot of drama could expect

[thorny steeple]

Then, he/she should find other topic to trolling, because it's not a game , it's real world

[gloomy lichen]

@magic olive thats the difference between posting 1 dead animal over another dead animal in General Chat. Where you moderate one, but not the other?

For example, if someone posts a picture holding a dead fish, why cant I post holding a hunted dead dog?

[feral river]

[dapper laurel]

And marry my 9 year old daughter

[sullen cedar]

U don’t have any info

[thorny steeple]

A lot more for certain

[feral river]

A guy saying he’s palestinian got deported by disrupting the social order

[molten osprey]

where’s people

[hybrid herald]

https://tenor.com/view/saved-favorite-homer-brainless-got-nothin-monkey-banging-symbols-gif-14671175

[lime cobalt]

wow wow wow

[feral river]

Lmfao

[hybrid herald]

I am here

[hybrid herald]

We have 3 wars at once

[molten osprey]

@formal pilot I disagree

[hybrid herald]

Waaar

[gloomy lichen]

I want seju to reply to me, but I dont suspect them even looking at my msg

[high raven]

Sadly not everyone shares your sentiment:(

[formal pilot]

I'm so sorry that you guys don't have laws to prevent it, sucha shame that italy is weak now

[hybrid herald]

He is typing

[feral river]

It is a game for our superpowers

[dapper laurel]

Bro, I really expect them to do that one day

[feral river]

Probably not for you

I can’t even find 5 guys who from the superpowers this chat

[dapper laurel]

The weaker the better

[feral river]

All either from empty ground state or puppet states

[dapper laurel]

Every day closer to the ancapistan

[feral river]

Not pretty fun

[hybrid herald]

That's ur brain fr

[formal pilot]

Sure

[feral river]

World is a game for us to play

And you can do nothing about it

[formal pilot]

Will it be justifiable to marry a 9 yro in this regime?

[mint hatch]

hello, do you play minecraft?

[thorny steeple]

Aka power more in the people vs big government?

[dapper laurel]

Without a state I can defend myself as I wish, so instead of legal proceedings I can use my rifle

And their head goes boooom

[feral river]

Dude you can’t face a professional army with advanced equippments

[formal pilot]

Good luck on firing a rifle 6578 km away

[dapper laurel]

If you both agree, yes. But you should explain to the child what exactly it means

[feral river]

These unorganized piece of shit will disappear by superpower’s intervention

[hybrid herald]

3 war at once is crazy

War war war war war war war war war

[feral river]

Build a nuke for yourself before saying something wild

No strength, no power, no right, no dignity, and no food

[dapper laurel]

Then I will die free

[feral river]

Survival for the fittest

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-peace-i-want-problems-always-choose-violence-no-peace-problems-gif-24342946

[gloomy lichen]

1 - its not about animal cruelty, its about consistent in relation on what is allowed on the server.
2 - What if someone did have a dog for lunch, and part of the soup is the dogs skull?
3 - Just because I am vegan, that does not mean I am ONLY allowed to post vegan food.

[thorny steeple]

Serious chat everyday lol

[hybrid herald]

2 war
people are here

[high raven]

Never thought I'd say this, but there's too much going on in this channel

[sullen cedar]

Fr

[hybrid herald]

Ic ic

[feral river]

🇮🇱

[hybrid herald]

💯

[sullen cedar]

There’s more

[feral river]

We will win the war

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-1716626911192888665

[formal pilot]

Weren't you concerned about someone marrying your 9 yro daughter?
I find it strange that you're saying "If you both agree, yes. But you should explain to the child what exactly it means"

[hybrid herald]

In ur dreams

[wary wing]

let's see if anyone can still call themselves uyghur in xinjiang after 5 years

[formal pilot]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

Check this out

[sullen cedar]

Half of Americans are worried because isreal use American money for wars

[feral river]

They can rn but they can’t call themselves turks

That’s DISRUPTING THE SOCIAL ORDER

and treason against the state

[high raven]

Plant is hanging on

[hybrid herald]

1 it is kinda
2 they remove the bones from it
3 i am allowed to post vegan food but i won't

[dapper laurel]

Because I don't think it's right to marry a nine-year-old girl, it's literally inhumane, but I can't even forbid it, that's why private justice is essential

[thorny steeple]

Nice plant, how's it?

[feral river]

Don’t worry dude those poor americans can do nothing about it

[gloomy lichen]

if you care about animal cruelty, maybe dont post dead animals?

[sullen cedar]

Damn u even against your own people

[feral river]

Our jewish capitalists controls everything in the US and Israel is linked with the US national interest

[hybrid herald]

Stand with pro always
War is war

[high raven]

It will die in a week or two, it's too cold

[hybrid herald]

Idc about them

[thorny steeple]

Well get it close to a heater then!

[hybrid herald]

I js eat

[formal pilot]

It's inhumane, still it'll be allowed in your regime, that's a problematic regime, at least for me

[sullen cedar]

Ewewewewew

[high raven]

Oh that won't help, we don't get much sun around here, summer is over with

[feral river]

Inhumane or not, defined by whoever control the guns

I have the guns, I’m humane

You don’t have it, you are inhumane

[gloomy lichen]

1 - no idea about that
2 - you are not addressing the question.
If someone had dog skull stew, would that be ok to share?
3 - dont care about what people think of me, but I care about what people think of what I am posting.

[gloomy lichen]

then let people post whatever dead animals they want to

[sullen cedar]

Opposite

[gloomy lichen]

if u dont care, show me that u dont care

[formal pilot]

Wait Dahlia blooms in winters, why is it blooming here

[dapper laurel]

Of course, if you explain to a nine-year-old girl what it means to marry a 40-year-old Muslim man, it's obvious she'll say no; that's part of ancapistan. The problem is that a person like a Muslim, who doesn't come from liberal lands, can try to force it, that's where my rifle comes into play

[feral river]

It’s not opposite until one side is eliminated by the humane side

[hybrid herald]

Talk with sej i am not disgusted from dead animals

[molten osprey]

[feral river]

Winner writes history and survival for the fittest

[hybrid herald]

My war has come

[feral river]

None of these fucking losers would stand on one page of history

Lmfao

[sullen cedar]

Even the dinosaurs were just fighting

[feral river]

Hail Israel, Hail the Great War against terrorism

[dapper laurel]

Nah, people would be schooled, but if they choose it and it's voluntary, it's not inhumane

[hybrid herald]

What is the realtion between that and that

[dapper laurel]

I explained it

[shell hemlock]

Aren’t you vegan, you eat dead dogs ?

[fiery flower]

Bro is so insecure that being a loser traumatized him so bad ! .. what a pity !

[thorny steeple]

Lmao then what is

[high raven]

They bloom late summer/fall here, I planted it early to give an earlier bloom

[hybrid herald]

Still not related

[feral river]

I eat dog meat but I don’t share the dead bodies

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/shawarma-gif-24404918

[formal pilot]

I still think your regime is problematic and i loath it

[shell hemlock]

I see the party came over here

[formal pilot]

It should be prevented in any scenario

[hybrid herald]

First time u agree with Minecraft

[molten osprey]

guys stop fighting

[hybrid herald]

[molten osprey]

i disagree

[thorny steeple]

Same that regime is trouble

[hybrid herald]

No that's serious chat it is for wars

[high raven]

No trolling in my channel

[dapper laurel]

My regime makes people happy

[feral river]

There’s a thing called natural selection

[sullen cedar]

We are not fighting it’s the most common way to have conversations here

[formal pilot]

Here it blooms in winters, oct to jan

[molten osprey]

[high raven]

😭😭

[feral river]

Why don’t we just have a total war to eliminate every terrorists

[gloomy lichen]

you are avoiding the question x3
"If someone had dog skull stew, would that be ok to share?"

[hybrid herald]

@fresh flower

[feral river]

Oh we already had one I guess but not so total

[thorny steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852819089050042408/1409811520266829935/image0.gif

[thorny steeple]

Chats alive lol

[hybrid herald]

I summoned u olly

[high raven]

He's at work

[formal pilot]

Suka

[hybrid herald]

We need olly fr

[sullen cedar]

We should eliminate u first because ure the only terrorist here

[hybrid herald]

Oh

[feral river]

Try harder

Lmao

[sullen cedar]

U too

[formal pilot]

Precisely

[high raven]

If anything he'd be on Felek's side, the right one

[shell hemlock]

Posting dinner isn’t the same as posting gore

[hybrid herald]

Seju i thought you don't like wars

[feral river]

He’s nothing but a crap who would yap for something piece of shit

[shell hemlock]

You must be stupid if you can’t even make that simple comprehension

[feral river]

And support terrorism

[thorny steeple]

FrFr the chat's incomplete without him

[high raven]

He doesn't support terrorism, I do

[hybrid herald]

[hybrid herald]

U do fr

[sullen cedar]

Yes 5 years old kid is terrorist

[gloomy lichen]

what for?
to share different cuisine

[formal pilot]

You're allowed to present dog meat in a better way, stop posing gore

[fiery flower]

Exactly

[hybrid herald]

Bro spread love

[shell hemlock]

If you’re vegan then post your tofu and let other people post their steak pics

[hybrid herald]

Too alive chat rn

[hybrid herald]

Shawarma

[gloomy lichen]

💀 bruh this sounds dumb af
If I never had a fallafel, im not allowed to post a pic of what I want to try?

[hybrid herald]

U can't judge something u never tried

[dapper laurel]

Nobody here is a saint, bro, it's a fucking jungle, you must survive

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/steak-gif-24533842

[gloomy lichen]

and you should be able to post pic of food you never had

[turbid dome]

You’re only looking at this through one lens, but under another the difference between posting a dead dog and a steak is that one is seen as more horrific and traumatizing to others, whereas the other is seen as food.

Over many years we’ve seen dogs be our friends and are therefore conditioned to find their gored bodies to be bad.

If you want this to actually be a 1:1 you would have to compare this to a dead cow or a steak as compared to a prepared dog filet

[high raven]

Quite overwhelming

[formal pilot]

Minecraft please share some unusual food pics

[hybrid herald]

I will not

[fiery flower]

Dude bc of people like you people hate and cringe vegans ! Btw

[shell hemlock]

It’s because you’re posting gore for shock value, we’re trying to keep the chat chill and you’re over here posting pictures of dead dogs just to provoke a debate

[hybrid herald]

[sullen cedar]

I’ll judge dog meat

[formal pilot]

Say no to beastiality

[hybrid herald]

5 vs one

Less go

[gloomy lichen]

Well, if people can eat straight up dead fish, why cant they do it with cows or dogs?
Also saying "its bad because society says its bad" is just a logical fallacy

[thorny steeple]

In serious chat please 🥺

[sullen cedar]

Who’s even eat dog meat?

[gloomy lichen]

demonstrating different cuisines and different cultures

[shell hemlock]

Ok so you are not vegan

[fiery flower]

The dumbest thing ever lol

[shell hemlock]

🤣🤣🤣

[high raven]

@feral river

[lime cobalt]

I’m curious, maybe he’s vegan.

[hybrid herald]

Fr

[shell hemlock]

First time I see a vegan fight for his rights to post pictures of dead dogs

[turbid dome]

Did you post a picture of dog kebab or something? It sounds a lot like you just posted a dead dog

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-macska-cica-vomit-oklendez-gif-14738230240638170539

Ewwww

[formal pilot]

Blud posted a fried dog (whole) skinless

[shell hemlock]

The normal vegan would’ve posted his vegan food and moved on

[turbid dome]

Whole?

[shell hemlock]

Unlike this guy

[turbid dome]

lol

[gloomy lichen]

you know rotisserie chicken?
like that with dog.

[formal pilot]

Yes, it wasn't chopped

[high raven]

There's no absolute wrong with eating dog meat, it's common in some places and cultures

[formal pilot]

Looks tasty tbh

[sullen cedar]

Eating dog is common!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[high raven]

In some places of the world yes

[dapper laurel]

In the ancapistan it can be done 👍🏿

[turbid dome]

Do you think humans view chicken the same way as dogs?

[formal pilot]

It's too expensive to farm

[high raven]

Why tone 5?

[sullen cedar]

Maybe for Chinese only

[formal pilot]

If you're able to catch street dogs, big W

[gloomy lichen]

I think humans are hypocrites. There is nothing fundementally different between eating chicken and dog.

[formal pilot]

No

[shell hemlock]

Dogs aren’t eaten in most cultures, but cows chickens and fish are standard food sources that the majority consume on a daily basis

Meanwhile vegans are a minority globally so for a vegan to dictate what the majority should do to please them is crazy

[hybrid herald]

There 4 weak dogs in the street

[dapper laurel]

To be more inclusive for minorities

[hybrid herald]

U gave me an idea

[shell hemlock]

It’s like saying if a Muslim don’t eat pork then the whole world should not eat pork

[high raven]

Not at all, also in SK, Vietnam, Philippines, Nigeria and more

[gloomy lichen]

Ill ask whats wrong with different cultures eating it?
Same way how Muslims would ask about posted bacon.
or Hindi people asking about posted dead cow.

[sullen cedar]

Pork is bad for health already

[hybrid herald]

Even dogs

[thorny steeple]

Obviously it isn't exclusive to China lol

[sullen cedar]

Ugh so yeah it’s common for them to eat human too I get it

[shell hemlock]

Nobody is asking about that you’re making up your own stories

🤣

[formal pilot]

Don't touch it if they're skinny, we like em thic.

Imagine sucking on a dog's bone to assert dominance in the animal kingdom

[sullen cedar]

Ik lol that’s why I’m shocked

[shell hemlock]

Bro I don’t eat pork and I’m not Muslim and idgaf if people post food with pork

[hybrid herald]

Where's the vegan one

[gloomy lichen]

I dont recall, I remember posting cooked dogs

[sullen cedar]

I thought general is weird but serious chat is💀

[gloomy lichen]

I can post here the image of reference

[shell hemlock]

Imagine posting something to obviously provoke something but denying it

[sullen cedar]

Oh damn show us

[hybrid herald]

U mean the rules aren't logical or what?

[gloomy lichen]

so this is fine?

[high raven]

No, but in some places of the world meat is meat, it's what you can get your hands on and sometimes it's a delicacy

[gloomy lichen]

not consistent

[hybrid herald]

Yes

[formal pilot]

They might be freedom fighters, that's what the British used to do with them

[shell hemlock]

I have a screenshot from their vegan vc where they post pictures of people shoving their arm up a cows hoohaa

[sullen cedar]

I won’t eat for one week

[formal pilot]

Ai generated

[shell hemlock]

I think they are just gore obsessed, they are not vegans

[gloomy lichen]

thats called "farming"

[slate garden]

STOP REMINDING ME THAT DOGS AND PIGS ARE SIMILAR

[hybrid herald]

+1

[hybrid herald]

2 in the other's army

[slate garden]

we love dogs how dare u compare a DOG to a LIVING BREATHING COW

[shell hemlock]

It’s gore sis, also the fact that you keep contradicting yourself AS a vegan, claiming that you love animals and shit but you’re standing proud on fighting for the rights to post gore pictures of animals just to prove your point makes you a nonsensical person

[hybrid herald]

Yes ik dogs are tasty

[shell hemlock]

Do not even get me on started on the way that you keep pinging Vivek

[gloomy lichen]

if you think its "gory", why do you pay for it?
Im just showing people what they pay for it.
So if you are againts people shoving arms in cows asses, why u pay for it?

[final night]

We stream slaughterhouses a lot in the vegan channel here bud

[turbid dome]

Sure, humans are capable of hypocrisy, and you can argue about ideals however much you want but there is more emotional value many people put on dogs compared to chickens, which makes it more traumatizing for many, and the point of rules in this case is to create protections for the largest group of people possible without being overly limiting in people’s speech, which explains why the rule is in place.

I’m not going to bother making the intelligence gap argument since you said there’s no fundamental difference as that isn’t really necessary for the current convo at this moment

It may not be fully consistent in that it doesn’t treat all animals the same, but it is consistent in the original purpose of protecting people who have emotional investments in certain animals.

[high raven]

Isn't it just how farmers check if a cow is pregnant

[thorny steeple]

Dude literally is podcast material lmao

[hybrid herald]

+1
3 in the other's army

[feral river]

We deserve everything in this planet

We are the most superior species ever to be exist

[slate garden]

have u considered that BBQ dog is ok because plants feel pain too? plants can emit hypersonic screams

[feral river]

We will take over everything

[formal pilot]

Please share cooked dog pics again so i can say

What da dogs doin

[feral river]

None of you fucking pains on low class species I would give a little fuck

[turbid dome]

Would be a wild thing to do

[hybrid herald]

Save plants eat vegans

[feral river]

Low class species is our property

[hybrid herald]

Spread love

[quick mauve]

butter dog got a whole different meaning

[feral river]

We use them, we pet them, we eat them

[quick mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/butta-dawg-dog-with-the-butta-butta-dog-i-put-the-butter-on-him-the-dog-with-the-butter-butter-dog-gif-19244197

[feral river]

We are the most superior species, humanity

[gloomy lichen]

but with the argument of
"the point of rules in this case is to create protections for the largest group of people possible"
The you can make an anology that if the majority of the people are sexist, then we should protect the oppressors rather than the victims.

[feral river]

We won the war against other species

[formal pilot]

I'm more of a butter chicken guy

[feral river]

We will continue to win it

[formal pilot]

[final night]

The superior destroyers. Nothing to be proud of.

[turbid dome]

Nope, as that’s not creating a protection but rather an enabling structure

[hybrid herald]

Save plants, eat vegans 💕

[thorny steeple]

True but animals deserve a chance Bro

[feral river]

Yeah I’m proud of that I’m the most superior destroyer and I deserve everything under my absolute power

[gloomy lichen]

whats the difference between dog and chicken in this instance?

[feral river]

Very proud of that

[final night]

You’re not Beerus my guy

[hybrid herald]

Chicken is tasty

[turbid dome]

Emotional value held by humans

[shell hemlock]

Because a picture of a dead dog is not considered food to majority, it’s considered shocking and disturbing, and even offensive especially to a Chinese person like me

You are creating an argument that just because we share our food means that you should share pictures of dog meat which is stupid because there are variety of foods that DOES NOT INCLUDE DOG MEAT.

Dogs are* domesticated animals that we treat as family, I have a dog and I pay thousands of dollars to keep her alive so the fact that you’re pushing the agenda that just because I eat beef and chicken means that I would also eat my own dog is incredibly offensive AND nonsensical.

[gloomy lichen]

he was talking about humans shoving arms into cows asses, not dog meat 💀

[slate garden]

people who take ethical dialogue seriously might just discard your view as might makes right, which also justifies all the other things u want to condemn in the world

[feral river]

I don’t know why would somebody’s emotion relying on some fucking crap

[formal pilot]

Dogs are expensive

[hybrid herald]

War war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war war

[feral river]

These low class species are all our slaves

Our properties

We are the owner of them

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[turbid dome]

Idk, I’m not particularly offended or grossed out by it, but I think it’s ignoring the point of the rules

[final night]

All farm animals are domesticated bud

[lime cobalt]

Pet and livestock

[hybrid herald]

Chickens aren't

[formal pilot]

1.5£ / kg in my region

[shell hemlock]

Cows and chickens are considered livestock so you made the wrong argument, try again

[feral river]

Nobody gives a fuck we won the war against other species and we take over everything under our rule

[gloomy lichen]

so would you agree that we should continue enabling people to share dead animals?

[hybrid herald]

2.5€ here

[final night]

That’s why the earth is burning. The inferior species won

[high raven]

I think the vegans should keep posting dog/cat meat if someone posts meat to troll them

[gloomy lichen]

appeal to popularity fallacy.

[formal pilot]

You're getting robbed

[feral river]

When we need these little crap we keep them and make them contribute to us, when we don’t need them we kill them whenever we want

It is our planet

[hybrid herald]

Algeria my brother

[feral river]

We are the owner, the most superior species

[gloomy lichen]

so posting "selective" animals is ok. because they deserve to be dead?

[feral river]

We are superior

[hybrid herald]

Yes

[feral river]

Absolute superior above all other species

[slate garden]

You clearly aren't equipped for this discussion lol

[turbid dome]

I personally don’t mind if dead animals in whatever form are shared.

[hybrid herald]

💯

Same

[shell hemlock]

You are doing the same by having your vegan group and trying to force grass down other people’s throat even when they don’t want to

[turbid dome]

But the rule around them is clearly created not for the consistency of animals but for people

[gloomy lichen]

and if they are not shaped? like a rotisserie chicken?
if people can post rotisserie chicken, I should be able to post rotisserie dog.

[feral river]

Cool let’s try harder on that because we have modern tech to make us breakthrough the limit of the nature

And we burn them into hell

No problem with that, what are they, properties, slaves

[hybrid herald]

Where's the war at

[gloomy lichen]

dogs are livestock

[feral river]

We are the most superior ever

[hybrid herald]

War war war

[turbid dome]

Again, emotional value

[uncut tiger]

[hybrid herald]

War

Fight

[gloomy lichen]

your position relies on the group. So appeal to popularity fallacy.

[shell hemlock]

It’s crazy they bring up morality as an argument but can’t accept that we consider dogs as friends not food, I wonder if they’ll eat their own human friends

[feral river]

Sometimes I need to remind you guys how delicious is the dog meat

[hybrid herald]

War is back 🥹

[feral river]

Delicious as fuck

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[hybrid herald]

The whole gng is typing

[final night]

“If I don’t consider you a friend, I am entitled to slaughter you” -heroes of a generation

[turbid dome]

I’m not saying “the majority of people believe this is ok therefore I hold this belief and it is ok too”

I’m completely fine with seeing both dead dogs and chickens, so I’m fully consistent in that sense.

The reason I mention the group is because this isn’t about dog vs chicken, it’s about humans.

[lime cobalt]

Even religion allows eating meat, so I think that is the greatest enemy you must destroy.

[turbid dome]

I think it’s ok despite the inconsistency because it serves its original purpose

[hybrid herald]

"It is tasty"- chicken lover

[feral river]

If you are an enemy then we will take the way to deal an enemy

Will you be one ?

[formal pilot]

Beautiful country

[final night]

Taste doesn’t control me comrade

[shell hemlock]

If a cow comes wagging his tail and pissing just at the sight of me coming back home I sure as hell wouldn’t eat it

[feral river]

Didn’t you see enough enemies being crashed by our superpowers

[hybrid herald]

Thnx i think u r bengali right ?

[feral river]

[formal pilot]

Why y'all are mad for Ai generated pics

[gloomy lichen]

if we should not care about non-human feelings, but not humans. Whats the morally relavent trait difference that justifies different treatment?

[thorny steeple]

That's when you know it's serious lol

[hybrid herald]

It does to me 😋

[hybrid herald]

I like that chat rn

[uncut tiger]

Taste

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-9338065310670481220

[turbid dome]

Here’s the thing: morality isn’t objective, so there is no trait that is inherently moral or immoral

[final night]

“If the animal isn’t happy to come home, I am entitled to kill it when I don’t even have to” -heroic chatter

[gloomy lichen]

if human babies taste good, we should kill em?

[feral river]

Can your phone have the feeling ?

If I dismantle their fucking brain and they have feeling ?

[hybrid herald]

I eat him fr

[thorny steeple]

That's great

[feral river]

They don’t have that, they are low class

[uncut tiger]

I didn't know vegans ate that for breakfast

[feral river]

We are superior we have feelings

[hybrid herald]

U see bc of wars

[gloomy lichen]

so maybe if we cant find the difference, maybe it will be better if we are consistant

[feral river]

Low class species doesn’t deserve to have feelings

[hybrid herald]

They do fr

[thorny steeple]

Lmao a phone is electronics no made of flesh lol

[lime cobalt]

People are getting crazy lately lolololo

[shell hemlock]

Is your argument strategy to quote people’s messages and put words in their mouth ? 🤣🤣🤣

[hybrid herald]

U see

[shell hemlock]

Typical vegan contradicting themselves

I think they’re all the same species from vegan vc

[turbid dome]

I didn’t say there is no difference.

[high raven]

It's time to make peace

[sullen cedar]

Damn vegan still doesn’t taste shawarma

[hybrid herald]

Not yet

[uncut tiger]

We've seen enough 😞

[hybrid herald]

Fr

[feral river]

Then let me see the next side dish if it has your name if you would like be one

[thorny steeple]

And sign the papers 📜

[final night]

What’s the contradiction? Explain P and not P

[hybrid herald]

Not yet

[gloomy lichen]

whats the morally relavent trait differnece that justifies different treatment?

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/shawarma-gif-24404918

[feral river]

No problem we had the consumption power to eat every plants and meat at the same time

[feral river]

Don’t worry even if they are not tasty we throw it into trash

[shell hemlock]

@magic olive once again

[feral river]

And we don’t sell it to broke ass cuz they don’t have the purchasing power

Survival for the fittest

[formal pilot]

Nice try FBI

[feral river]

Natural selection works

[high raven]

They should wrap it up, only I have the right opinion #🧠｜serious-chat message

[uncut tiger]

Hehe

[feral river]

Don’t worry

[thorny steeple]

Based Sanna

[hybrid herald]

[gloomy lichen]

based

[formal pilot]

We don't take opinions of a gal seriously

[uncut tiger]

Lol

[shell hemlock]

LMAO

[formal pilot]

We're the alphas

[turbid dome]

That would vary depending on one’s sense of morality.

In my personal sense of morality it’s that life is miserable and the process of meat being prepared into an elaborate dish brings me enough joy to not end it all.

[hybrid herald]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[uncut tiger]

Sejuani had enough

[feral river]

I would love to see that

[gloomy lichen]

im just saying that you guys are inconstant

[shell hemlock]

“Guys I’m so cool I created a revolution bc I forced majority to not send pics of meat bc our minority don’t like it”

[uncut tiger]

ENOUGH

[feral river]

Dog meat are delicious absolutely

[gloomy lichen]

and thats annoying

[feral river]

I love dog meat

[lime cobalt]

One felek can shake the world.

Go felek

[gloomy lichen]

so your claim is "Its ok to harm others as long as I get joy from it"

[shell hemlock]

They’re duplicates of the vegan teacher on TikTok

[feral river]

Ah oh property isn’t others

Property is properties

[gloomy lichen]

you are ok with showing dead cooked chicken body. But not dead cooked dog body

[formal pilot]

@gloomy lichen Please don't send Ai generated images next time.

@feral river will guide you to take good real pictures

[final night]

Being kind makes you a Karen, you heard the ad hominem here in Serious Chat folks

[gloomy lichen]

its not ai, u can google the img

[thorny steeple]

Agreed use real sources always

[hybrid herald]

💯

[gloomy lichen]

its not even about being kind, its about being consistant.

[feral river]

Next time I go to a dog meat restaurant I will show you how delicious it looks

Trust me guys

[turbid dome]

To clarify, I am my own being that revolves around myself so yes

[feral river]

It’s delicious as fuck

[hybrid herald]

The whole gng is typing

[high raven]

I'd actually appreciate it if you did

[formal pilot]

Vegans are good, I'd love to be one

[gloomy lichen]

I can keep em there. I am unsure what u mean by "deleting them"

[hybrid herald]

[lime cobalt]

Go felek go go go

[shell hemlock]

You ban people from your VC because they eat meat

[uncut tiger]

💀

[gloomy lichen]

if I deleted dead dog meat from Vegan VC, then I can go back and put them in there

[hybrid herald]

I usually make more in a few minutes

[final night]

Not sure what definition of Karen you are using here bud

[turbid dome]

I would definitely try it

[gloomy lichen]

this is not saying "I am starting a war". it has past tense, lol

[lime cobalt]

Vegan army are coming

[gloomy lichen]

as in "By me being in general chat, it started a war"

[feral river]

I ever ate twice

Trust me, dog meat are delicious as fuck

[turbid dome]

How was it?

[uncut tiger]

What is that Felek, are you celebrating after insinuating chaos?

[gloomy lichen]

not me lol

[turbid dome]

Yeah I’m sad South Korea is banning it before I get to try it

[gloomy lichen]

Where is it showing that I am celebrating?

[final night]

No we need meat eaters in there, it’s the whole premise of the channel

[uncut tiger]

It literally looks like you are proud of it

[thorny steeple]

So China travel then?

[shell hemlock]

Yeah you do lmao

[formal pilot]

[hybrid herald]

Bro the rules are clear if he posts it again do what u will do

[feral river]

Go to North Korea to try it

Or PRC

[hybrid herald]

War

[final night]

Just asking for your definition of a Karen, whenever you’re ready

[turbid dome]

Sure, will glorious Xi let me in for dog meat?

[formal pilot]

N korea shares a border with russia

[gloomy lichen]

hold up, you are saying that if vegan vc allows to post meat imgs, you will allow me to post cooked dead dogs in general for all people of this discord to see?
Yes or No

[shell hemlock]

The whole premise of the channel is to have someone who disagree with you so you can ban them from your channel and feel like you started a revolution

Need me to put it into simpler terms ?

[turbid dome]

I don’t think you can go there as an American, maybe a non American westerner can though

[final night]

Nope 👎

[feral river]

We can travel to North Korea lol

[formal pilot]

It's not about being vegan or not, it's about making sure the general chat is clean and there's no gore content

[thorny steeple]

Definitely right @feral river

[hybrid herald]

The rules are clear fr

[lime cobalt]

Let me tell you, felek. your greatest enemy is religion.

[turbid dome]

I’d actually want to go and see the mountains in the north, they look beautiful

[uncut tiger]

Stop making everything more chaotic 💀

[turbid dome]

Maybe see the war memorial

[shell hemlock]

One of their mods is literally named “Vegan Jesus”

🤣🤣🤣

[formal pilot]

Let's tailor a fight between felek and minecraft

[turbid dome]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorious_War_Museum

[hybrid herald]

Save plants eat vegans

Spread love

[lime cobalt]

Just adding a little fire. 🔥 🔥 🔥

[gloomy lichen]

Got the reciept. Will double check with admins. Ty.

[high raven]

Not to distract from the vegan war, but if anything then being vegan and religious goes better together than non-vegan and religious

[lime cobalt]

Gasoooolineeeeee

[shell hemlock]

Hell no

[gloomy lichen]

thats what I am doing right now.

[shell hemlock]

In Quran there is literally written in Hadith that they saw the Prophet eat a chicken

[uncut tiger]

Why

[turbid dome]

I mean, I guess depends on the religion but don’t many religious books allow and regulate eating meat?

[hybrid herald]

Oh seju ultra is so chill

[lime cobalt]

See felek , im not joking

[thorny steeple]

Will you ever visit north Korea?

[uncut tiger]

I eat meat because it's allowed in my religion.

[feral river]

Being vegan and religious at the same time was like eating dr*gs and smoking opium at the same time

[turbid dome]

I doubt I’ll get the chance but I would love to

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but it be amazing ngl

[feral river]

Religion is people’s opium - Karl Marx

[turbid dome]

Yeah it would

[high raven]

I'm not strictly talking about eating or not eating meat, more so the unnecessary suffering that the industry inflicts on animals, if you're able to detach from that by being a vegan or farming and raising your own food, then that, in a religious sense, brings you closer to the intents of the religion in question

[gloomy lichen]

ask him about ||Aisha ||lol

[turbid dome]

I think it was “[religion is] the opium of the people”

[hybrid herald]

Ok u want war with me so

[lime cobalt]

Whaaaaat ??? Lol

[feral river]

Same thing

[ebon yoke]

hi

[hybrid herald]

Ok i will ping u there

[ebon yoke]

can someone help to correct my poem

[formal pilot]

Leviticus 11:20

[solemn frost]

Leviticus 11:20 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<20>" All winged insects that go upon all fours are an abomination to you.

BibleBot v12.1.1 by Kerygma Digital

[ebon yoke]

its for my homework

[hybrid herald]

Go to chill chat

[formal pilot]

Minecraft should be a better jew

[turbid dome]

How to cause an environmental catastrophe: Mao style

[high raven]

I agree

[feral river]

Unnecessary to be a Jew to support Israel

[gloomy lichen]

you are making a claim that I am "trolling". Do you think my intent is to troll when it comes to posting pictures of meat?

[feral river]

But we do encourage other people to be a Jew

[shell hemlock]

Yeah you did lol

[turbid dome]

I have 0