🧠｜serious-chat

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-eating-amc-perfectly-popcorn-mouse-yum-yum-delicious-gif-15877432887457947334

[manic juniper]

The world is deterministic, isn't this how religious people see it? It's not randomic, I don't think tests are needed since results are predetermined and have nothing to do with free will or the lack thereof

[feral river]

actually you won't lost everything but losing some manpower

manpower was a resource in terms of nation's interest

as well as the population

[slender coral]

Well, it's certainly better for both sides.
Arguably better for the whole world since this war affected the economy globally.

[crystal kayak]

Bro I think your bad luck because whenever you are around people argue🤣🤣🤣🤣

[feral river]

it did and Russia did take over their states and start to sell the coal mines around the region

their coal export skyrocketed

they take actual benefit, rule the state and people

[fresh flower]

I have an evil effect on this channel💔

[crystal kayak]

Thank you for clarifying that,I don't have a problem with you bro

[feral river]

why not for 🇷🇺 Russian Federation

there's no fucking state give a little bit actual fuck to other's interest

whoever gives a fuck about it disappeared from the earth already

[crystal kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/voldemort-harry-potter-avada-kedavra-gif-12401009

[feral river]

survival for the fittest

[thorny steeple]

Well then, I should probably go to sleep.
It was a pleasure to talk to all of you...
May the Stars bless your dreams.

[crystal kayak]

Goodnight bro

[wind bramble]

ur friend aren't right but she's right at one point that we have to cover our bodies so yeah we obligated to wear it but tbh i don't find it hard to have in on i like it and i really appreciate it cuz allah made it to hide our beauty the only one who could see our beauty just husband i mean uk how men look at women and how they lust let them see us right so allah made it for us to protect us that when a foreign man see us all he can see is our face he can't see the details of our bodies and uk what as a muslim i have never touched a man before

[feral river]

I don't give a little bit acutal fuck to global economy as Putin as long as it doesn't impact his beloved country, Russian Federation

[fresh flower]

Stop cursing you look stupid

[feral river]

NATIONAL INTEREST ABOVE ALL

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[crystal kayak]

He is basically saying we have to act like animals to survive

[wind bramble]

in religion, the world isn’t seen as fully deterministic. God knows the future, but that doesn’t mean He forces us to act in a certain way. Free will is real, and that’s why the test makes sense

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-misono-arius-mod-discord-gif-13933025578271285252

[crystal kayak]

You know the weak have to be loud in order for them to look tough

[languid condor]

I know!
I was just curious and as a Christian I am on the same side as you are. And when I am telling my friends that I want to stay a virgin until marriage they laugh it off saying that I won't be able to control myself....

[manic juniper]

But if he knows the results it's invalid either way, and it's never needed otherwise omniscience is meaningless

[crystal kayak]

Will you ban me🤣🤣

[fresh flower]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

[manic juniper]

Why don't they believe you

[fresh flower]

No bro I'd never

[crystal kayak]

I take back the Avada Kadabra🤣🤣

[crystal kayak]

Simple you need new friends

[languid condor]

Because they say that it is crazy to want that
They say that I won't be able to control myself if I am in a relationship but the thing is that I want to find a man with the same values as me
They asked me what if a man doesn't respect that and I said, and I mean it, that I will not continue being with him

[crystal kayak]

You are true christian

[fresh flower]

Mashallah

[languid condor]

I am glad I have Christian friends also and they don't say stuff like that

[wind bramble]

i like ur mind ur right girl don't listen to them but uk what that's what i love about islam cuz we can't do this and it's forbidden thing to do that why i see it very kind religion cuz we got rules and these rules control us and our souls

[feral river]

they would remember Jesus as a Jew

[crystal kayak]

The Muslims are the ones laughing or

[feral river]

as well as the Israelis

[manic juniper]

I guess they are close minded or inexperienced, it's really easy to do and our parents did this all the times just few generations prior to ours

[fresh flower]

It's not forbidden if you're a Shia, you can sign a temporary nikah

https://tenor.com/view/digilah-digifun-malaysia-largest-network-digi-emoji-mix-emoji-gif-17801560

[languid condor]

I follow what the Bible says and I am trying to be as true as possible

[mystic bay]

It depends upon the religion

[slender coral]

The Russians have a good sense of humor.

[crystal kayak]

What is called again I forgot the name

[fresh flower]

Idk bro I'm not even Muslim

I know it's a thing though

6 word horror story

[crystal kayak]

I am trying to remember the name

[crystal kayak]

Christian

[wind bramble]

God’s knowledge doesn’t cancel free will. He knows what we choose, but we are still the ones making the choice. Like a teacher knowing a student will fail the knowledge doesn’t cause the failure, the student’s actions do.

[languid condor]

No, no
They are atheists or claim to be Christian but they don't follow the rules. They are good friends but I can't stand them when they make fun of my beliefs. I don't force my beliefs on them, I just want to respect them

[fresh flower]

I found it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut'ah

[slender coral]

Sunni terrorist groups tended to be stronger and more influential though, just by sheer fanaticism. Shi'i ones typically fight backed by Iran.
Just saying

[crystal kayak]

you attract what you are so don't listen to your friends

[languid condor]

Most of the time I am the one who is close minded

[fresh flower]

Sunni terrorst groups fell off 💔🥀

[languid condor]

Thank you!!

[crystal kayak]

That is what it is called I won't forget it again

[hoary glen]

Brother, I don't know if you're trying to smear the Chinese government or just to piss them off. Is the Chinese government really that bad to Muslims? At least I don't think so. Even during China's family planning period, ordinary Chinese people could only have one child, while Muslims and ethnic minorities were allowed to have three.

[crystal kayak]

You have to create boundaries

[slender coral]

Heard some are still active in central Africa.

[fresh flower]

The real OG's al-qaida are "Sunni" right?

[slender coral]

Yeah

[fresh flower]

I'm going to miss talking about terrorism online once Chat Control 2.0 takes effect 💔

[slender coral]

@fresh flower
In the very constructive discussions between Sunnis and Shi'is, you'd hear Shi'is calling Sunnis terrorists, and Sunnis calling Shi'is sons of Nikah Mu'tah

[crystal kayak]

https://hrf.org/latest/whats-happening-in-chinas-concentration-camps-qa-with-uyghur-camp-survivors/

[fresh flower]

In https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1367799103354044446 they immediately mute those who say they're Shia 💀💀💀

[slender coral]

This is just an accusation. These terrorists claim that they are true representatives of Islam just like how your group whatever it is does.

[slender coral]

Typical Muslim behavior

[wind bramble]

not funny and not true

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't subject my students to a test if I 100% knew the results

[languid condor]

I have and they respect them but sometimes they may cross them

[wind bramble]

what about give him a chance??

[slender coral]

I swear to fucking god it happens all the time, and what's worse often happens.
Here in Egypt the only Shi'i Egyptian scholar we had got lynched.

[wind bramble]

he might pass

can't he?!!!!

[slender coral]

Both sides really hate each other.

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't if I knew the results

I think it's a waste of time for both of us

[wind bramble]

here in egypt i see انت مصري بقا

[manic juniper]

I would give a chance only when I know he will succeed

[slender coral]

Yeah I am.

An ex-Muslim as well

[manic juniper]

Me finding out that Egypt has Arab Christians and not just Copts

[wind bramble]

عايزه اقول ان احنا مش حابين الي الشيعه بيعملو ده اصلا

[crystal kayak]

I don't want to make you friendless but if my friends cross the boundaries I set the friendship is over

[wind bramble]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[slender coral]

And I wanna tell you thay killing people is not good 🫠

[wind bramble]

منهم لله هما الي مبوظين سمعتنا بجد وفي الاخر اسمهم مسلمين

[wind bramble]

do they?

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/roodmuch-squidward-explode-gif-22973645

[manic juniper]

Do you know any ex-Muslim irl? How many even know that you are one

[crystal kayak]

Rose I already tried to reason with this people they won't understand

[languid condor]

I would have done it too If that was happening constantly

[wind bramble]

no it's not he could pass

not a waste of time

if ur gonna help him to get the truth

[manic juniper]

He could, that's when I'll make him take the test otherwise it's a waste of time

Once he can I will give him the test so there is objective proof he passed

[slender coral]

I got to know some irl, but that happened through Instagram.
Currently I don't have much contact with them as they moved away.

[fresh flower]

Silly atheists 😡

[manic juniper]

But if you applied this to real life then all people would get to heaven because those failing the test wouldn't exist in the first place

I wouldn't waste their time

[fresh flower]

I believe in all Gods and religions to increase my chances of going to heaven

[manic juniper]

Yes I do too, it's the most reliable strategy so far

[wind bramble]

we have the choice to fail or to pass like the one who study to pass the exam

[crystal kayak]

You what you are doing let talk

[manic juniper]

So far I'm behind in my human sacrifice counter, I will not be eligible for Aztec heaven

[crystal kayak]

Plus where are you from btw continent

[fresh flower]

I just hope reincarnation isn't real, there's a 35% chance to be reborn as Indian or Chinese if we only count the human population

Too much of a gamble

[manic juniper]

You will be reborn as Minecraft's son

[crystal kayak]

Bro🤣🤣

[manic juniper]

Wrong reply

[wind bramble]

i could say they just surrounding by people who made them like that

[manic juniper]

Imagine gaining consciousness at 3-4 years old and you see Israel and USA flags all over your house

[fresh flower]

@feral river wet dream

[languid condor]

I am Greek

[manic juniper]

And there you remember your past life, your time wasted on Discord. Holy crap, you're his son. You just reincarnated as his son

[crystal kayak]

What🤣🤣

[fresh flower]

Just imagine it bro, it's a scary thought

[manic juniper]

You try leaving this Earth but you get reincarnated yet again. This time you're some Indian's brother...

[crystal kayak]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[manic juniper]

I wonder who, perhaps someone else who wasted a lot of time here

[fresh flower]

Ku..... His name must not be spoken

[crystal kayak]

Nice

[hot crypt]

Hello everyone

[languid condor]

Where are you from?

[hot crypt]

Planet earth

[fresh flower]

Hello welcome to a very welcoming and friendly chat

[crystal kayak]

I am dying of laughter

[manic juniper]

Do elders in Greece think the minotaur and other monsters were demons serving Satan or something

[crystal kayak]

Kenya

[manic juniper]

Or do they think they were completely fictional

[hot crypt]

Finally

a good chat in the lustful discord

[fresh flower]

It's true though 😭

[crystal kayak]

Probs their parents

[fresh flower]

Lustful? Did you see the e-dating in general?

Mods get mad when you say that btw

[slender coral]

My parents are very typical Muslim

[crystal kayak]

I am jealous why didn't I think of it first

[crystal kayak]

Omg

[hot crypt]

Sadly it’s truth

[hot crypt]

I don’t and I don’t wanna see it

[languid condor]

Ancient myths are not really related to Christianity
The ancient religion is part of our culture but then Orthodoxy during the Byzantine Empire took over

[fresh flower]

It is, 3 of them are on my ass over it

[hot crypt]

Ohh 😮

[languid condor]

Nicee
I would really want to visit

[crystal kayak]

Well I feel bad for your parent

[slender coral]

Bro I'm in a very typical Muslim environment 😭

[manic juniper]

Yes I know but did anything survive at all in the traditions? For example in Philippines the original religion mixed with Christianity, it partially survived. Also in Mari El, in Russia

[hot crypt]

Arabic country ?

[slender coral]

Feel bad as you wish

[slender coral]

Egypt

[languid condor]

There are people who still believe in the ancient gods actually

[crystal kayak]

Your welcome anytime

[fresh flower]

Atheist in Egypt?????

[hot crypt]

That explains why

[manic juniper]

They built a temple

[fresh flower]

How is bro still alive

[slender coral]

Yea

[wind bramble]

and ur not i just advise u bro iam not gonna get any benefits from uبس بجد الحق نفسك قبل فوات الاوان وابعد عن الناس الي مخلينك تفكر بالطريقه دي عشان دول السبب في كل ده انت لسه عندك الفرصه وربنا غفور رحيم بس بجد ربنا يهديك اصل فكر فيها هتعيش تاكل وتشرب بس هو ده السبب الي انت هنا عشانه؟!!

[slender coral]

No one knows

[hoary glen]

This was filmed by the BBC. The BBC is biased against China. You can watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmId2ZP3h0c

[hot crypt]

Yes there’s a reasonable number of Christians there

[crystal kayak]

Because of the wildlife or just to experience life in Kenya

[manic juniper]

XP farming Infidelity Points

[hot crypt]

May allah guid him to the right path

[languid condor]

They go to ancient temples or caves who are named after the ancient gods and it is believed that the gods passed from there

[manic juniper]

I know a guy from Egypt, he's Muslim too but his life is completely haram

[languid condor]

Both

[crystal kayak]

I think no one cares tbh he is the one looking for attention

[wind bramble]

amin يارب

[fresh flower]

You reminded me of a video of a guy wearing a "God is dead" tshirt and 50 people surround and hound him over it

[hot crypt]

Muslim is a name or badg he cares for him

[crystal kayak]

When are you planning to visit

[wind bramble]

he choose that but uk what he still got the chance For forgiveness

[languid condor]

I don't have a plan but after school I would like to travel a lot

[manic juniper]

The way he spoke about Egypt to me made me think that there is an underground life many people aren't aware about and that many Muslims and Christians are part of

It's really similar to how people live in my country

[hot crypt]

All regions are same

[languid condor]

God gave people free will, don't forget that. I hope for him to find his path

[manic juniper]

I can't even say it here because it's completely NSFW but imagine driving your car in the desert with your girlfriend and... Doing stuff

[faint jolt]

Damn...

[crystal kayak]

I would like to travel to but I think it is very hard

[manic juniper]

This is the same as people driving their cars in front of a random bog and doing stuff

[crystal kayak]

Their did a collab with china

[manic juniper]

Greeks had a more physical view of the gods, Romans thought their true appearance wasn't physical at all

[crystal kayak]

👀👀

[slender coral]

Why are you being condescending bruh..
I'm way better without Islam. And it's not a matter of the people I'm a around, it's a matter of how Islam fails at being logical. Muslim countries kill and imprison people to suppress them and stop them from criticizing Islam because they fear criticism.
No one brainwashed me, you are the brainwashed one for following the religion of your ancestors without questioning.

[fresh flower]

I found it, his hoodie just said "God is busy"

https://youtu.be/7DRbLZnMh6A

[languid condor]

There are difficulties but I believe that if you want something very much you will do everything to make it happen

[manic juniper]

I'm pretty sure that Devil is leading a more halal life and he likely doesn't even know about this kind of underground life in Egypt

[crystal kayak]

Sometimes it doesn't always workout

[manic juniper]

It kinda made me realise that people abroad are globalised af and religion is very nominal nowadays

[fresh flower]

I think the sheikhs and whatnot do far worse in SA, UAE and that region

[crystal kayak]

Imagine if it was Minecraft

[manic juniper]

I guess but at least they aren't normal average people

[languid condor]

According to mythology the gods transformed into animals or ordinary humans, they never showed people their actual appearance. One example is when Zeus (Dias) showed his true appearance to Semeli, his lover and mother of Dionysus, because she begged him to do so. According to the myth she died because of his dazzling shine

[crystal kayak]

I hate the UAE

[languid condor]

True but failing is also part of life!

[manic juniper]

Is their actual appearance thought to be humanoid or is like the Roman gods, more abstract and more akin to a strong light?

[fresh flower]

For what reasons bro

[crystal kayak]

I know failing is part of life but even you want something so bad if it was not meant for you it will never work out

[languid condor]

Humanoid

[languid condor]

Exactly

[slender coral]

If my non-religious and secular friends stayed where I am, I might've gotten deeper into their underground world.
But yeah, generally I live a pretty conservative life, and I'm satisfied with most of it's aspects, it's what I'm used to.

[manic juniper]

I don't think it's bad, but it feels strange to know that despite the country's values there are many people out there living exactly like the average person in my country, having partners before marriage, having... Other things, drinking, going to parties

[wind bramble]

ولله يبني انا مش مستفاده حاجه ولا قصدي اتكلم بطريقه وحشه معاك انا بنصحك بس، بس معلش مين الي قالك ولا شوفت فين حد او دوله مسلمه واحد بتقتل حد قدامك؟! مش يمكن يكون شخص بيكره ديانه معينه عشان كده بيطلع عليها الكلام ده كله؟!! ونفترض ان انت كلامك صح تمام هل الاسلام او ربنا هو الي قال الكلام ده ولا هما الي بيعملو ده!؟؟ بشر وبيغلطو بس انا عمري ما سمعت الكلام ده ما اصل احنا مش ملايكه بردو مش معنا ان الشخص مسلم يبقا خلاص بقا من المبشرين من الجنه!!؟ الفكره ان هما بيشوهو سمعت الاسلام مش هتكلم بالانجلش عشان معظم الي هنا بيخدو الكلام بسخريه

[manic juniper]

The main difference is that people can't talk about it as openly I guess

[wind bramble]

واتوقع انت بقيت زيهم

[crystal kayak]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3w1nzpg5dgo.amp

[wind bramble]

رغم اني قولتك اني مش مستفاده حاجه

بس انا بضيع وقتي انا غلطانه

[crystal kayak]

Hope you will get to experience the beautiful lands of KENYA

[fresh flower]

Oh that, yeah that's a good reason, they're very shady, Turkey is no better but at least they're a counter balance in Sudan against the UAE

[slender coral]

They are few as well, most people here stay virgin until marriage.

[manic juniper]

Few but numerous enough to form large communities, I guess it helps that there are over 100 millions people many of whom are young, and they live in the same places

[crystal kayak]

I keep hearing turkey what did they do I wanna hate on them to if the accusations are real

[manic juniper]

Bad things to Kurds and other bad things in the past

[crystal kayak]

And what did they do in Africa

[manic juniper]

Do you only care about Africa

[languid condor]

I can understand what you are saying
Greece had been an Orthodox country for centuries. Our holidays are Christian celebrations, religion is a very important part of our culture and it is sad that many young people are against religion, living their lives in sin. And telling Christians, especially the young ones that we are wasting our lives because we don't drink or party or engage in body acts

[languid condor]

Thank you!!

[crystal kayak]

Do you want to argue I asked about Africa and before your stupid brain goes there I have a kurd friend I care about them too

[manic juniper]

I guess that since it has been Christian for so long it stamped out all remaining traces of pagan culture

[manic juniper]

Damn so hostile for no reason, I just asked a question

[crystal kayak]

Sorry, I thought you were trying to start an argument

[languid condor]

The celebrations, totally
They are only part of history but we still praise our ancestors

[manic juniper]

But what about the mythology, is it completely gone?

[languid condor]

And as part of the subject of ancient greek at school we get to look into the ancient time

[manic juniper]

Like no one takes it seriously if Christian, they don't think the two things are related

[languid condor]

Believing in it or just reading it?

[manic juniper]

Believing in it, for example in Finland they used to think some of the previous deities were servants of Satan

[languid condor]

For example, I like mythology. Of course I don't take it seriously but I like reading myths because I like studying ancient history and ancient greek and mythology is also a part of it

We study The Odyssey and the Iliad at school and Eleni, the tragedy by Euripides. During junior high school

[manic juniper]

I studied the first two as well, it was an interesting read

It was embellished fiction about real historic events

[cedar bridge]

Do you like greek goddess Demeter

[languid condor]

Specific Demeter?

She is a quiet goddess

[languid condor]

Yes it is
Because the people that still worship the ancient gods are considered pagans and the ritual can be called satanic

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/путин-putin-greetings-приветствие-машет-gif-13885829740937561891

He is protected by the moderators

Lmao

[true steeple]

and scared. smoking

[zinc nimbus]

Scared?

Like seriously?

[thorny steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852805796789354496/1397301041418080486/image0.gif

[zinc nimbus]

U guys experienced war?
Missiles in ur neighborhood?
Red alert at 3 am?
NO
So u cant talk about scary things

U haven’t lost ur friend yet

[cedar bridge]

There's no peaceful religion honestly

[cedar bridge]

Going to work everyday with trolling and abusive co-workers and mentally getting drained are scary things

Yes, being alive is awesome and all but surviving and living are different things , PTSD can be dealt with

[fresh flower]

What is it with your people and acting like victims?

I'm genuinely curious, is it taught during your childhood?

[thorny steeple]

Aura

[prisma cipher]

Trust CNNeyro

[manic juniper]

We have a Swede here, they throw grenades in there

[fresh flower]

I used to live in the hood 💔

[languid condor]

Everybody can be scared even if he hasn't lived in that kind of situation, I feel scared about my exams. I know that someone is scared of dying but that won't make me less scared, it will make me feel bad for the people who experience it

[fresh flower]

This is CRAZY but I'll take it 😭

[prisma cipher]

Someone scared of daying you make me laugh so hard

[fresh flower]

She's saying that we have no right to judge Israelis and their actions because we haven't felt the fear they "live" under

[prisma cipher]

Why we still don't have name for that phobia

[languid condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-stare-side-eye-gif-16732086699915766519

[thorny steeple]

well nighting is worse

its dark and fewer people are around

[languid condor]

For the people who experience war

[manic juniper]

There is, it's called thanatophobia

[thorny steeple]

even then the fear of death can come to anyone

but we have to keep moving forward

[prisma cipher]

Sounds familiar. You mean when people scare non stop to die.

[languid condor]

🫥🫥
So if I am against murder I can't judge it or have an opinion because I haven't experienced it?

[prisma cipher]

I mean actually everyone scare to die

Literally

[languid condor]

Yes, exactly

[manic juniper]

Almost everyone

There were periods where I wasn't afraid of it

[prisma cipher]

believers maybe not

[fresh flower]

New record btw, she called me antisemitic after 4 messages

Never seen someone use that card that fast

[prisma cipher]

It easy not scare of death when you young

[languid condor]

But I was talking about the people who are living in countries that are in war, sorry I didn't make it clear

[manic juniper]

Nah it was just few years ago

[prisma cipher]

You young

You not 60th

[manic juniper]

But now I am afraid of it

And I used to be before those times

[prisma cipher]

What happened?

[manic juniper]

Life is fragile

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[languid condor]

That's the stupidest argument I have heard

I can't judge a rapist because I haven't been raped
Ok

[thorny steeple]

that is legitimately

the stupidest thing I have ever heard

[fresh flower]

The funniest thing is that she started it off with "Not all Israelis support this"

Didn't last 5 minutes

[thorny steeple]

Gross

okay lol I disagree with that, you can't generalize all Jews as being Zionists. the religion and political ideology are completely different things

Not all Jews are Zionists. But all Zionists are Jews would be a better way of putting it ig

And tbf even that doesn't have to be the case. I have seen people who support Zionism simply because they are racist

[languid condor]

Look, I don't think this is a thing
Not all Jews are Zionists. In fact there are Jews that are calling Zionists fake Jews

[fresh flower]

Are you referring to the Haredis? They are opposed to the state of Israel, they're not opposed to the idea and means to get to Greater Israel

[languid condor]

No, I don't really know who those are. I saw a video the other day that a rabbi and other Jews were arguing with Zionists

[fresh flower]

These guys

They're always used as tokens

[manic juniper]

Final number of Pi

[fresh flower]

"Tips and tricks for making only 23% of your Orthodox population pay income tax in Israel"

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/59401

It's not that long of an article if you're interested in learning factual antisemitism

[languid condor]

Yes those people

[fresh flower]

Those are the same guys frothing at the mouth and spitting on Christian men/women visiting Jerusalem

They're not the good guys

[languid condor]

At least they did one thing right!

[languid condor]

Won't comment that
We have every right to visit the Holy Places

I don't think we should generalize anything, there are always exceptions. That's why I always say "The majority"

[turbid dome]

i've seen 2

[grim folio]

@thorny steeple why do you have a problem with anime pictures for real everyone has anime pictures you tell him to remove it it's not right

I mean is it about your religion it's prohibited or something else i just wanna understand

[late ravine]

So… what’s the equivalent of a holy place for atheists? I’m thinking if certain areas are reserved for the religious we should have places reserved for the irreligious.

inb4 library

[turbid dome]

Hot take: The bible advocates for worse things than Mein Kampf, they both advocate for genocide (1 Samuel 15:3) and the bible features much more ruthless and bloodthirsty actions, such as in genesis with the story of Noah's ark and how God flooded the world and killed everyone and everything except two of every species. The command to worship someone who openly killed nearly the entirety of the world is evil. Hitler, while one of the most ruthless and bloodthirsty monsters of all time, could never have accomplished such a feat. (For the record, i don't believe in god or most of the bible's many claims, but i'm talking about in the confines of christianity here)

[solemn frost]

1 Samuel 15:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<3> Now go and smite Am'alek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.'"

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

[turbid dome]

There isn't and shouldn't be one. Atheism and theism are inherently asymmetrical. If you want to describe a community center of some sort, then sure, but that's not atheist inherently.

[late ravine]

There definitely should be. It’d be the most humane and prosperous society in the world.

I’m advocating for no-go zones for the religious.

[turbid dome]

why not just work to get rid of religion entirely?

[late ravine]

Because they’ll kill you! :)

[turbid dome]

rip

[formal pilot]

I disagree

[hushed ferry]

a holy place for atheists, you say?

i mean, there are atheistic groups that exists with their own "churches"

[hushed ferry]

it absoutely is

they can also just join a room if im correct

could be laziness too

[slender coral]

You meant to be condescending. Almost every Muslim I talk to speaks like that, it's as if y'all share the same braincell.
I wouldn't benefit from you changing your faith as well, and I wanna tell you, you should do that. Islam is nonsensical.
The apostasy death penalty is a thing in multiple Muslim countries, add to that they way people accused of blasphemy get treated, whether facing the suppression of their Muslim states or even harassment and violence by Muslim citzens.

[slender coral]

You are still being condescending

[toxic vault]

yo yo chill

انا من مصر برضو عام

بصراحه حالات الفتل كتبره فشخ حتى عندنا

كل واحد مبني على معتقداته

[slender coral]

It feels like respectful interdaith dialogue to you guys is like garlic to vampires

[toxic vault]

bro u have to be more respectful for other religions

[slender coral]

Why show respect to an ideology that wants me dead?

[toxic vault]

yk what murdering penalty is in Islam ?

No doubt u do

[slender coral]

Well, their prophet told his followers this

[toxic vault]

Do not kill the soul which God has forbidden, except by right.
(17:33)

god forbiddened killing innocent ppl even if they're kahir "don't believe in god"

an whoever do it his penalty is "al qasas"

if he murdered so his penalty is death

Muslims who murder ppl are " muslim not believers "

Not all muslims are good

in the same case not all christians are good

Also if ur parent are muslim and u're saying that sort of stuff they must take good care of u

ur iman is weak

Also being a muslim in unmuslim country is rlly difficult

[slender coral]

God didn't forbid killing apostates according to the hadith I shared.

[slender coral]

Not as difficult as the opposite lol

[toxic vault]

well it's mentioned in quran buddy

[slender coral]

You guys can prostlyze your religion openly in the west and cry "Islamophobia" when someone points out your bs.

[slender coral]

Well, a big number of Muslims wouldn't agree with you on your views.

[toxic vault]

big no.?

man I won't continue like that u don't even know anything ab islam

[slender coral]

I don't know anything, how?

Why do you think so?

Enlighten me dude.

[toxic vault]

cause the Quran is the main source of all evidence

[slender coral]

And the Quran is interpreted by the Sunnah, you don't know that?

In Islamic scholarly, Quran is interpreted by the Quran, if a verse is not clear you look for another one that clarifies it.
If you don't find that, then you use the Sunnah to find that clarification.
If you still don't find it, you search in the sayings of Mohamed's companions.
If you still don't find it, you clarify with the sayings of the followers of the companions. @toxic vault

[shy summit]

Any holy book is the claim my friend.

[turbid dome]

the claim that's always used as evidence.

[tepid solstice]

Just a dairy written by some humans X

[formal pilot]

Zionists are now attacking the west bank

[slender coral]

This is new?

[formal pilot]

Every atrocity is a new crime

[slender coral]

When will this shitshow end?

[formal pilot]

Soon, Just as even the mighty Roman Empire eventually fel

The number of non Zionists jews are the highest in history

They'll act as a catalyst

[lime cobalt]

I’m curious if you would react the same when seeing the Holocaust?

Because now it’s kind of mixed between humanity and anti Semitism.

Or, “oh, Palestine is Muslim so I have to support it.”

[formal pilot]

Yeah, I’d react the same way. I stick to my morals I’m not here to play sides like some folks who just blindly back their "sides", i loathe people who aren't morally consistent

[feral river]

There’s no palestine

There’s no muslims either, only different arabs from different state or different nationalities

Muslim is an empty concept

[turbid dome]

yes?

[feral river]

You say you are muslim it’s the same thing to say you are communists and we don’t give a fuck

[formal pilot]

Can you stop over using the F word, it'll lose the essence

[feral river]

I don't think you are communist as what they call the muslims

[slender coral]

Sometimes, but many anti-semites, especially in the west, hate both sides.

[feral river]

muslim is an empty concept, I means nothing but a group of people commit to a backward political ideology

[slender coral]

As if you don't lol

Might makes right is a concept older than Islam.

[formal pilot]

I'm not muslim

[slender coral]

And it got us places worse than what Islam did.

[feral river]

then good for you

[feral river]

the name of that backward political ideology was Islam

[formal pilot]

It worked really well for a certain period, now I don't think it'll work in modern day

Despite being rich in natural resources, they didn't use the money well

[feral river]

USA USA USA probably with other flags like the Soviet Union, both Chinese flag, Japanese flag, and some Nazi and german war flags (I love their design)

[feral river]

it worked when they take profit off the trade between the west and east

when we stopped trading they collapsed as well lmfao

now most of their former terrority either puppets or empty grounds with gun fire

[formal pilot]

They had the resources to become great, unfortunately their ideology kept them away from it

[feral river]

and underdeveloped as fuck

Islam has an unshirkable responsibility on this

but you can't blame a backward political ideology but the people who are radical supporters which mostly becomes terrorists by this freaking mind

and our job is to eliminate every single terrorists

and protect humanity

and most people did being disguide by this backward ideology, we need to re-educate them in a different way, cut off their sources to get fighters and supplies

this is a war that happened for thousands of years

and we will win the war

LONG LIVE THE WAR ON TERROR 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 🇨🇳 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇫🇷

[nocturne ferry]

Hey everyone I am great at tech stuff and troubleshooting if you need any kind of help pls dm me.

[lime cobalt]

You know, sometimes hidden anti Semitism sneaks into cheers for humanity.

[turbid dome]

Please tell me you’re joking

[lime cobalt]

I’m not, of course not everyone is like that, some genuinely act based on moral principles too

[feral river]

LRWEITP

[turbid dome]

I mean, I don’t think most people are that sinister. Some like Tucker Carlson or majority taylor Greene who are antisemitic will be pro Palestine because it’s politically beneficial. But I think for most morally inconsistent people it would be best explained by those who are closest to you. Same reason some Europeans are more seriously pro Ukraine than pro Palestine, white people see other white people as closest to them and easiest to empathize with

[feral river]

#LRWEITP

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[feral river]

doesn't matter America is still in charge of europe no worries

and we have AIPAC

when Russian finally take Ukraine back to Russia we will see a new Europe dominated by US and Russia together soon I think

[lime cobalt]

Yes human is tribal species, globalization enforces diversity with the consequence of racism.

[feral river]

it's time to unite everyone under one flag one ideal one identity

at least we have to do it in our country

and mass survelliance, checkpoints everywhere is what I wanted for all the time

[dapper laurel]

You make it a racial issue, but it's not. I do not show solidarity based on skin color or craniofacial structure, but I show solidarity with other people based on shared values. Friendship between people is born on the basis of a commonality of values. If Israel is oriented towards the democratic world, I will always support it, instead of a gang of terrorists cutting heads

This is also why the West doesn't only extend to the so-called "white world", but includes South America, Turkey, Israel, Japan, South Korea, etc.

So, if Europeans support Ukraine more clearly than Palestine, the main reason is shared values (as demonstrated by Ukraine's willingness to join the EU). Another reason could be the proximity of the conflict, which is perceived as more critical, close and dangerous

[feral river]

There’s absolutely no reason to support a bunch of arabs in the middle east which already caused resentment for europeans

And IDF is doing their justice job to protect the world in other places

[manic juniper]

The conflict is easier to understand as well and plenty of Europeans know about the invading country 🤢🤮

[kindred dome]

thoughts about AGI 2027?

[fresh flower]

Least braindead #🧠｜serious-chat take

[fresh flower]

What's new? Last I heard chatgpt released a new model

[dapper laurel]

They want me to support the Palestinians when they did shit in my country too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Rome_and_Vienna_airport_attacks

[kindred dome]

https://ai-2027.com/ here

it is pretty scary

i might prepare on whats to come on the near future

i also watched a documentary featuring this paper

https://youtu.be/zXEuKULvvyI?si=mGH3CrSTL1pRFgfW here

https://youtu.be/5KVDDfAkRgc?si=V7_AgO0x7y1Lcv1j i also watched this too

any thoughts on this paper? and the possibility of it coming true?

[feral river]

there's no Palestinian only Israeli arabs 🇮🇱

[fresh flower]

Lots of solid speculation tbh but not much you can take at face value besides the Chinese trying to breach and steal a model

It's only a matter of time for that

[kindred dome]

it was the same author that predicted chatgpt

so im pretty worried that this will happen too

[feral river]

That’s how deportation would work to counter such act against social order

[slender coral]

Would a Vietnamese be justified in hating all Americans for what they did to their country?

Americans committed atrocities there, just like in many other places.

[dapper laurel]

Well, I don't hate Palestinians, I just don't support them, it would go against my interests, that's all

If they have the power to carry out attacks and kill people, they will simply do it

And I would like to try not to die before I'm at least 80

[slender coral]

That's sounds like "I don't hate Palestinians, but I hate them".

[dapper laurel]

If you understand English, they are two completely different meanings

[coral belfry]

what are you're interests then?

[fresh flower]

Idk tbh

We're far off from all that and most AI related news are pure hype and only benefits coders and investors

[deep zephyr]

So, who's hurting my pookies

Come here bitches

Let me spank u till your ass cheeks turn red

[deep zephyr]

Those things doesn't go together

[coral belfry]

ignore him
i think he is ragebaiting someone

[deep zephyr]

I'll just abuse him

Last time he cried and started to flex his fake lifestyle

[fresh flower]

Mind your tone when talking about Minecraft

He has $200 in Bitcoin

He's a millionaire in his village

[coral belfry]

no you <:

[dusky jungle]

hi its me bob

[coral belfry]

hi bob

[fresh flower]

Bob

[dusky jungle]

hi guys

[slender coral]

You can't be polite?

[lucid parrot]

🕈︎☟︎⚐︎ ✋︎💧︎ 🕆︎🏱︎ 🕈︎✋︎☠︎☝︎✋︎☠︎☝︎ ❄︎☟︎☜︎✡︎ 👎︎✋︎☠︎☝︎💧︎ ☼︎✋︎☝︎☟︎❄︎ ☠︎⚐︎🕈︎✍︎

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-skeleton-gif-25954239

[slender coral]

Hey there

How are you doing today, Kurd?

[sullen cedar]

I’m fine wbuuuu Alhamdulilah

https://tenor.com/view/mean-meanmug-mean-mug-mean-mugging-meanmugging-gif-12657884015706667852

[slender coral]

Good good

[sullen cedar]

Wbu

[slender coral]

I'm fine

@sullen cedar if you don't mind asking, why do you believe in Islam?

[sullen cedar]

Let’s change the question why don’t ya believe Islam?

[feral river]

backward, loser, underdeveloped, weak, stupid, delusional

let me find more on my dictionary

[sullen cedar]

Okey im waiting?

[slender coral]

I don't find it convincing.
I read and heard much about the "scientific miracles" and "eloquence miracle", but such arguments mostly are either flawed in their logic or built upon false information.

[feral river]

why the heck would somebody believe in some fictional story without any proof

it's like believing I'm the only true God

[sullen cedar]

What ya believe ?

[feral river]

reality

[slender coral]

Because they don't listen to the other side. Their countries censor religious dissent just like how your country censors political dissent 😅

[sullen cedar]

Then what happened to ya when ya die ?

[hybrid herald]

Nope

[hoary glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193574320765669406/1404812405892186203/B882A814D7FF3F52AC452E8BD7126DDF.gif

[feral river]

then you are dead

becomes a dead body

[slender coral]

Nope to what?

[feral river]

with dead brain cells and we have to froze it if we want to give a birth to you again

[hybrid herald]

The countries mostly listen to the other side.

[sullen cedar]

Bruh lemme tell ya one thing all those countries ya talking about just using Islam name not Islam rules

[mint parrot]

Shara ?

[feral river]

and most guys doesn't have the chance to get their brain cell frozen cuz they are fucking poor

[sullen cedar]

Syre am fa3oyana

[hoary glen]

I didn't expect you to be here

[feral river]

and you can't froze brain cells to absolute zero

there's no such technology currently

[sullen cedar]

Are ya fr or ure joking

[hybrid herald]

We are rich over here

[sullen cedar]

I end up here

[mint parrot]

Masala chia

[feral river]

no if I shut down your brain for a while you will be like dead until I make it up

[hybrid herald]

Bro r u fr

[slender coral]

Muslim countries? That's not true. They often imprison people who criticize Islam, mostly suppress those who leave it whether by harsh punishment or deprivation of civil rights.

[feral river]

that could be achieved

[hoary glen]

Did you come here to quarrel?

[feral river]

totally

[tepid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/headshots-how-ridiculous-hit-in-the-head-multiple-hits-multi-kill-gif-13878030169839129084

[sullen cedar]

Alyt Bo brwat ba islam haya

[hybrid herald]

Muslim countries
But it is still politics

[sullen cedar]

Girl come back to reality

[slender coral]

And let me tell you, Islam is way more suppressive than those countries. Tell me when did your prophet allow people to criticize him and his religion?

[mint parrot]

Damn I'm late

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-jew-alexjonesjew-alex-jones-jew-alex-jones-jew-gif-8871961384248746007

[hybrid herald]

Bro thinks we live in caves

[mint parrot]

I just wanna know what your point is

[slender coral]

When did the Islamic prophet or his followers allow people to leave Islam or criticize it?

[hoary glen]

I feel like Minecraft can keep you chatting for a whole day, haha

[hybrid herald]

If they have any doubt they won't criticize
They will directly ask him
And he will answer

[hoary glen]

[sullen cedar]

Girl what are ya talking about???????? If ya read Quran ya will now that Allah say ( ya can’t force anyone into any religion) but ya didn’t read it like I see

[hybrid herald]

He is lifeless

[slender coral]

And everyone would get convinced by what he says? You find that logical?

[zenith ginkgo]

Looking for English partners

[tepid solstice]

Hey bbg

[sullen cedar]

There’s no such a thing our prophet guide people he never forced anyone idk where ya bringing those info

[hybrid herald]

If He is logical and can talk to ppl logically
Yes

[thorny steeple]

Hey how's it going?

[sullen cedar]

@thorny steeple

[hoary glen]

I don't agree with this. It's like this on the surface, but in reality...

[feral river]

the reality is if I shut down your brain for a while you will be like you are not existing in the world

[hybrid herald]

Go to #🫂｜beginner-chat

[tepid solstice]

going good

[feral river]

and you don't know who's Jesus either

[zenith ginkgo]

Hey follow back

[spice bobcat]

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4063
It was narrated that Al-Hasan said:
"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

[sullen cedar]

Ure Christian?

[spice bobcat]

I've been confused by this

For a while now

[hybrid herald]

He is prophet

[feral river]

no I was just saying

[thorny steeple]

He is a prophet. Nothing to hype about him .

[hybrid herald]

We know who is him
We know a looot

[sullen cedar]

Then if ya don’t why ya talking about it because Ik him better than you

[feral river]

I don't care if you know him better than me he's nothing to me anyway

why does that matter

[thorny steeple]

@hybrid herald @sullen cedar topic?

[hybrid herald]

Chilling ▪️

[slender coral]

Assuming that he is logical, which he isn't but I'll go with that assumption.
Are other people always logical? People are quite emotional and there would always be those who don't believe even if what you believe in is right.

[thorny steeple]

Bcz you asked

[feral river]

the reality is if I cut off your brain you will behave like 2 person respectively

[thorny steeple]

Dang

[mint parrot]

Worship Allah ˹alone˺ and associate none with Him. And be kind to parents, relatives, orphans, the poor, near and distant neighbours, close friends, ˹needy˺ travellers, and those ˹bondspeople˺ in your possession. Surely Allah does not like whoever is arrogant, boastful—

I'm wondering where you got this

[hybrid herald]

The sahaba were logical

[spice bobcat]

It's actually a sahih hadith

And it's narrated more than once

[feral river]

does that prove you have 2 souls ?

lmfao

[spice bobcat]

What was the purpose of that verse?

[slender coral]

Well, he told his followers to kill those who don't leave Islam as an example

[spice bobcat]

I've a genuine question

There you go

Just like this one

[slender coral]

You are assuming a region where all people in it are logical, which doesn't make sense.

[thorny steeple]

What's the reason behind mankind? Any valid answer for that ?

[hybrid herald]

Not all of them

[tepid solstice]

Dumbasses

[slender coral]

This isn't a verse btw, it's called a Hadith.
Quranic verses for Muslims came from god, while Hadiths are Mohamed's sayings.

[spice bobcat]

Bro ik 😭

[hybrid herald]

A lot of bad ppl were trying to kill rob ...

[tepid solstice]

Nothings from god 😭

[spice bobcat]

I quoted one similar to it

[slender coral]

Humans aren't that simple to give them one size fit all answer, every human needs to determine what their purpose is.

[mint parrot]

Can u prof it it's sahih not made up? Even though In surah Al baqara god says “There is no compulsion in religion"

[slender coral]

So anyone who didn't follow Islam was a killer or a robber?

[tepid solstice]

I can write a book with a Hiemshiter propaganda and publicate it so people will follow me
unfortunately there was no tt and ig 1000 years ago 🙁

[sullen cedar]

The Quran explicitly states there is no compulsion in religion, emphasizing that faith must be freely chosen. This principle is found in Quran 2:256

[hybrid herald]

I meant the Quraich

Read

To understand

[spice bobcat]

It's quoted in sahih bukhari as well. On about every hadith web it's graded sahih, every scholar affirms it too.

[thorny steeple]

Then you have to choose a specific thing cuz if you think everyone's choice is important then it would be sucks badly .

[sullen cedar]

Only Quran is sahih brother Quran is the words of Allah ya can read it

[spice bobcat]

But then the sahih hadith contradicts the Qur'an how's that supposed to work

[slender coral]

Bruh I heard the Seerah lectures by Raghib al-Sirjani countless times before, I know where you are coming from.
Why do you think Quraish were the killers and robbers? Wasn't Mohamed the one to start raiding their trade caravans indiscriminately?

[mint parrot]

I have seen they made a fake Hadith and saying oh it's imam bukhari said it

[hybrid herald]

Ignored asf

[slender coral]

Everyone's choice is important, and it already sucks anyway.

[spice bobcat]

You can check explanations and videos too. They say it's sahih and that It's not fake. Plus it's narrated in multiple books

[plush geyser]

Why u guys waste ur time debating with atheists?!

[sullen cedar]

The verse (ayah) 256 of Al-Baqara is a famous verse in the Islamic scripture, the Quran.[1] The verse includes the phrase that "there is no compulsion in religion".[2] Immediately after making this statement, the Quran offers a rationale for it: Since the revelation has, through explanation, clarification, and repetition, clearly distinguished the path of guidance from the path of misguidance, it is now up to people to choose the one or the other path

[spice bobcat]

I've been confused myself

[tepid solstice]

Ignorant 🙏🥀

[hybrid herald]

No he was a good guy
But they hated him bc he came with a religion which is not like their parents's one

[sullen cedar]

I think ure right

[slender coral]

Well things are so chaotic right now, if you'd like to maybe we could talk about this in dms later.
Thank you for being respectful with me sister, I don't see that often from Muslim folk

[hybrid herald]

Come

[plush geyser]

Because I did many be4 ...with same ppl ...same mindsets
So no energy to debate

[sullen cedar]

Sure ❤️ The true Muslim respect everyone bro but some are just pretending to be Muslim

[hybrid herald]

I didn't see that from atheist folk

[plush geyser]

No
كبر الG

[spice bobcat]

Then we should ignore a sahih hadith. 🤔 I'm confused as to why it was condoned and said in the first place. No disrespect ofc

[hybrid herald]

[thorny steeple]

What about devil choice according to you everyone has their own choice it's a ridiculous statement bro .

[sullen cedar]

Can u read??? If ya read quran ya will understand

[slender coral]

I understand this perspective as well, yes they did oppress him and his followers, but I don't think that means raiding caravans that carried the money of people who weren't necessarily involved in oppression of Muslims or were gaurded by people who weren't involved wasn't a good thing.

[feral river]

there's no such concept called muslim

[spice bobcat]

Yes I can. I'm just asking about the hadith

[feral river]

saying you are muslim does not represent anything

[spice bobcat]

There's gotta be an explanation

[hybrid herald]

They raid carvans not him

[humble acorn]

i don't have much knowledge on it, but as much as i have studied, ppl back in that era, took islam or the teachings of Allah as a fun, they accepted and then left it, you can't force someone to accept islam, but once you have accepted it, you can't leave it, you have to be firm on it, you know about the punishment for thieves right, why is it so severe only so that other don't follow it, same goes for this thing

[mint parrot]

Then let me ask u a question

[slender coral]

I'm sorry 😅
Hope you can talk to more kind atheists

[plush geyser]

Reading Quran needs to know tafsir ...

[hybrid herald]

Like saying u r shyyty minecraft from china

[mint parrot]

Wait loay is that u

[hybrid herald]

Not like u ofc

[plush geyser]

انت لسه عايش يجدع

[hybrid herald]

جدع؟

[thorny steeple]

100 💯 boss you you also can without tafsir

[spice bobcat]

Go ahead

[hybrid herald]

U have to be so smart then

[thorny steeple]

Womp womp

[plush geyser]

I was sure u didn't recognize me

[thorny steeple]

Not so

[hybrid herald]

I thought u were kylian mbappe

[mint parrot]

If they would kill people who didn't believe Islam why there are still christians ezidis Jews Zoroastrianism are living here?

[sullen cedar]

Most of the Hadith are just created by people and saying it’s a sahih Hadith from bughari but some Hadith also have a different meaning which it’s need a person to explain like dk.zakir

[thorny steeple]

Wbah Kurdistan and Algerian vs who?

[plush geyser]

U can read but u can't know all words or the meaning
Coz no one talks fusha js learners

[mint parrot]

I saw your pfp last night but I forgot it was u

[spice bobcat]

That's a nice explanation. But isn't portraying a bad image for those who want to convert. At first you're not compelled to join but then you're forced to follow. Just didn't feel nice.

[plush geyser]

Dude

[thorny steeple]

Yes yes ik

[hybrid herald]

atheism

[spice bobcat]

Ya اخی the hadith is for apostates not disbelievers

[hybrid herald]

Ik egyptian but where is ghad3ana

[plush geyser]

U either didn't recognize

[spice bobcat]

Murtad not kaafir

[hybrid herald]

Jk

[spice bobcat]

Dr zakir is not a scholar btw 😶‍🌫️ he's a preacher. Ik the ruling of this, I was trying y'all

[plush geyser]

I don't like it tbh
But I will keep for today

[spice bobcat]

And it's definitely sahih

Because it's affirmed and explained too

[hybrid herald]

He wins the arguments so

[sullen cedar]

Bruh I didn’t meant that I meant ya need someone. As smart as him or like him to explain 😭 I said as an example

[plush geyser]

Ik him

[spice bobcat]

Ohh yeah you got a point yes

[plush geyser]

I'm sure ur Arab

[hybrid herald]

Ic

[sullen cedar]

I was the only one who recognized

[spice bobcat]

Doesn't mean anything

[hybrid herald]

Me too

[mint parrot]

Why?

[sullen cedar]

Ik

[spice bobcat]

لا انا باکستانی grapeeeeee

[sullen cedar]

Ure from Pakistan???

[spice bobcat]

Yeah

[plush geyser]

Coz u know that
If u didn't see me yesterday I wouldn't recognize me

[sullen cedar]

Can I ask ya something

[spice bobcat]

Yes

[mint parrot]

First I don't even speak Arabic second u said they killed no believer and I asked you then why they are still here

[plush geyser]

Not special like graduated cat ...it was like a brand lol

[sullen cedar]

Is it really like that in Pakistan that they don’t let woman study or going out ? Or it’s just some propaganda?

[spice bobcat]

I never said that bruzz

I just asked bout the hadith

[spice bobcat]

Propaganda 😭 women do everything here

They drive, work, study, have parties, go to concerts

[mint parrot]

Kchy awa Afghanistan bw bas awesh dro bw😂

[spice bobcat]

God bless America

[mint parrot]

Anyway, hru?

[sullen cedar]

I was thinking the same but I asked another guy he said there’s some people here like that as their culture and stuff

[spice bobcat]

Maybe the Afghanistan and Balochistan side

[sullen cedar]

Azanm bas awyshm best w🤣

[spice bobcat]

They have bad rep

[sullen cedar]

Okey I needed someone from there tell me thx 😭

[mint parrot]

It wasn't sounds like asking but anyway

[spice bobcat]

You can't judge expression from text can you now

It's ok misunderstanding

Happens

[humble acorn]

nope, i don't think so, ppl who converted to Islam knew about this, it's not like they don't know about it in the beginning but later found out about it, and second thing, if you accept Islam you accept all its beliefs, ''you're not compelled to join but then you're forced to follow'' means that you only accepted some beliefs later you find it is hard to follow or some other reasons and you leave it. it is not so right! that's why we were told to first learn about it completely then accept it with all our might, when you have accepted it fully, only then can you convert to this religion.

[spice bobcat]

The Hadith's ruling is that, the apostates that actively wage war against islam should be killed and passive ones don't need to be

[spice bobcat]

[sullen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-meanmug-mean-mug-mean-mugging-meanmugging-gif-12657884015706667852

[plush geyser]

Good alhamdulillah
Hbu and ur course

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/antwane-tiana-tony-catfish-gif-409634166615236821

Telling you again, be careful

[humble acorn]

no it's propaganda, women can do whatever they please , only in backward areas you will find something like this, but it's minority

[mint parrot]

Going well I guess but yesterday I was like zero bas shuaia shuaia

[sullen cedar]

Yes thanks for explaining

[humble acorn]

mp:)

[hoary glen]

Feign conversion now and repent later.

[sullen cedar]

Todou comeee back to my chill chatttt

What are ya doing hereee

[winter echo]

Hahi

[hoary glen]

I saw you here, so I came over.

[sullen cedar]

Hahi why ure here too?

[plush geyser]

Shuwaia Shuwaia

[sullen cedar]

I’m leaving here I’m not a serious person idk why I end up here

[mint parrot]

لوي انت ترید بنزین؟

[hoary glen]

I know you came here to argue, don't make other excuses

[digital kettle]

well the story behind that hadith is that it was said during war times. some people in medina pretended to be muslim then left on purpose to confuse others and help the enemies so the hadith was more about treason and betrayal in a war situation. there is no compulsion in religion (2:256) so whoever wills - let him believe: and whoever wills - let him disbelieve (18:29)

[sullen cedar]

When I was serious about something? Idk why I end up here

[plush geyser]

أوه
هايل ...لا فيه تقدم

[spice bobcat]

@digital kettle

[plush geyser]

لسه ممون

[hoary glen]

Uh uh...

[spice bobcat]

I was just trying them

[digital kettle]

huh 😭

[spice bobcat]

Boredom innit

[mint parrot]

It's a joke dude

[hoary glen]

Minecraft He should go eat, otherwise he can chat with you all day. Lmao

[plush geyser]

I felt that either

[mint parrot]

But I guess u didn't get it

[feral river]

I never say that but I support to impose something on some basters

🇮🇱 and we will win

[plush geyser]

U told me Abt it be4?

[mint parrot]

I don't think so

[plush geyser]

Related to Iraq?

[mint parrot]

Yes

I will tell you in DMS

[plush geyser]

[feral river]

His argument can change nothing about their struggle to the situation created by themselves called Islamic influence 🤣

[mint parrot]

Free petrol in Erbil

[feral river]

Don’t worry Israel is going to save you guys to make the places prosperous again

[plush geyser]

Ur so funny ngl

[plush geyser]

Free free

[feral river]

What word I have left to some broke losers, probably none

[mint parrot]

With 3 bullets

[olive herald]

Raina

[olive herald]

OMG LOAYYY HEYYYY long time no see

[mint parrot]

Quzallqurt leave me alone

[olive herald]

What does that means ?

[feral river]

Canada should support Trump more than CCP

[slender coral]

Hey

[feral river]

CCP is just a group of demons and Trump is the only savior of humanity

Lmfao

[hidden shore]

Unlikely, based on Israel political power

[hidden shore]

That’s fuck who wrote this article

Israel just a puppet state by western

[feral river]

No worries their opponents will become weaker because of their backward ideology called islam

And Israel is supported by most countries

[hidden shore]

I think islam or religion just culture thing and part of their identity, nothing else relate to what political ideology

[hidden shore]

Even in Isreal they have their own religion called Judaism

[plush geyser]

I think they were more 3

[plush geyser]

Hru

[hidden shore]

Even tho Middle East and South Asia isn’t equally powerful across all countries , more important is that how their leader and politicians how they govern their country

[plush geyser]

If we and our rulers really apply true Islam , u will never see Israel again

[hidden shore]

But it also benefits for us innit, weak countries often taken orders from stronger countries

[plush geyser]

They even can't kill all hamas fighters for 2 yo ... although Hamas don't have the same weapons pigs have

The war ain't fair and Hamas do a progress ...it is enough that they got roasted in tanks shooting with one guy
Lol

[hidden shore]

weak countries often fall under the influence of stronger ones, they learn English, they always see strongest countries often taken global political positions, strongest countries often make decisions in global affairs and trade, just let it be , you make fun of them because of backwards, but don’t you think that, how great for us

[hidden shore]

strong countries are the ones squeezing the juice they decide how it’s made, who drinks first

[drifting bane]

True

[hidden shore]

I admit this 🇺🇸 flag only

[feral river]

I will never see islam again which is certain if they practice in a way you described

[hidden shore]

That’s how ISIS wants

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Child?

But isis organisation almost dead out

[sullen cedar]

IsIS is not Muslim bruh

Ya have to know what ure talking about

[feral river]

Islamic State of Iraq and Syria

[plush geyser]

Why the earlier Muslims had their impire from china to Spain ?!
For centuries Where the Persians and the Romans were

[sullen cedar]

Who said that?

[sullen cedar]

Peshmarga was Kurdish Muslim who defeated ISIS

[hidden shore]

Kirkuk is for everyone we built with one hand

[sullen cedar]

Ure from Iraq ?

[hidden shore]

which countries are they from

[feral river]

United States of America defeated ISIS

Peshmarga and Kurdish contributed nothing

and they got nothing of course

no doubt with that

[sullen cedar]

Ure sleeping? Even American said that for themselves don’t try yapping about peshmarga they died because of that

My dad was about to die because of that

Don’t try joke about stupid things kiddo

[feral river]

lmfao dude's talking his empire in 21 century where they live in empty ground fighting for nothing everyday

[hidden shore]

I am in iraq

[sullen cedar]

Oh Iraqi Shia or Sunni?

[feral river]

I don't give a fuck because even if you helped them to fight ISIS, you guys are still nothing and had nothing in return for that shit

[plush geyser]

YEAH YEAH ISRAELIS ARE ISIS

[feral river]

cuz you guys are nothing hold 0 power

[sullen cedar]

Where are ya from? Iraq Iran or Syria or Turkish?

[feral river]

and United States of America indeed the only one crashed ISIS

[hidden shore]

both Sunni and Shia.

[sullen cedar]

And the only one who created ISIS

[sullen cedar]

Then ure shia

[feral river]

nope, ISIS is created by Al-Qaeda a terrorist extremists group

[heady galleon]

Yo sup

[feral river]

and you know their religious allegiance, Islam well not surprising

really not surprising

[sullen cedar]

Ure really so sensitive towards Muslim people

[feral river]

what's the name of the ISIS again ?

Islamic State of Iraq and Syria

well done islamic

[sullen cedar]

Kiddo ya still don’t know anything stop yapping about Muslim

[feral river]

now they are done because United States of America decided to give justice in position

[sullen cedar]

Sup beez

[sullen cedar]

Ure talking about those who worship evil?

And killing 5 month kids in Palestine?

[feral river]

there's no Palestine

[sullen cedar]

Who’s the evil here?

[feral river]

Palestine does not exist

it is simple as that

[sullen cedar]

Who’s the evill those who shoot 5 years old kid mind ?

[sullen cedar]

Oh ure supporting isreal poor ya

[feral river]

your evil is nothing to me

I don't care a little bit to your evil

[sullen cedar]

How old are you?

I hope ya find the right way sista

I’m really sad for ya u know

[feral river]

on earth only forces decides everything and whoever lose is evil by making random excuses

who the heck cares who's the evil side are you a kid ?

adults only cares interest and benefit

and whoever lose the war was evil

good luck with you supporting an evil side then

try harder

[sullen cedar]

Only in this temporary world

[feral river]

and the United States and State of Israel will bring justice in place

don't worry and don't doubt that point

[sullen cedar]

Girl I’m really sad for ya fr fr fr fr

[sullen cedar]

Isreal end is close btw

[feral river]

lmfao try harder

let me see who's end is close

and you will see it

[sullen cedar]

Talk again when it happened

[sullen cedar]

Hope ya find your way sista because I’m really sad for ya and thinking 🫶

Bye

[spice bobcat]

Minecraft is a woman?

[hidden shore]

Nah i am atheist

I never follow any religions meanwhile i am full of respecting those people

[sullen cedar]

Jesus is not a God

[spice bobcat]

Keep it respectful bruzz

[hidden shore]

Allah is god

[sullen cedar]

Jesus said for himself that there’s only one God and it’s allah ya don’t even believe your own religion

I don’t talk without recourse

[hidden shore]

Prophet Muhammad

i said that based on what people call him

[sullen cedar]

With No knowledge talking

[feral river]

my way's pretty well thanks for that and we will win the war with no doubt

[hoary glen]

[spice bobcat]

You can just quote it

[sullen cedar]

Bruh go read bible I believe bible smart kid

[spice bobcat]

John 11:35

[solemn frost]

John 11:35 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<35> Jesus wept.

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

[spice bobcat]

Nice try diddi

At least Be respectful

[sullen cedar]

I don’t lecture people like ya I’m just saying the truth

I respect everyone but I think they didn’t teach ya how to respect people

Ure joking about them too?

I don’t think bible said that

Hmm

[spice bobcat]

Ignore

[hidden shore]

Lol

[hidden shore]

If your wife is Muslim, you won’t dare to say that

@feral river what happened if your wife convert to islam in the future

[prisma cipher]

Who we.

[hidden shore]

Devoice or embrace

[thorny steeple]

I and the Father are one John 10:30

[solemn frost]

John 10:30 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<30> I and the Father are one."

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

[sullen cedar]

Just give me one verses that Jesus said he’s A GOD ?

In bible

[feral river]

My wife would never be a muslim

[feral river]

Then my AK in the closet would have a chance to use

[thorny steeple]

\Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”John 20:27-29

Notice that Jesus doesn't correct Thomas for calling Him ''My Lord and my God''

[sullen cedar]

https://youtu.be/NOlL_IlL2sY?si=rsdp_qAOSc3HqyGY

Your answer

[uncut tiger]

BLASPHEMY

[sullen cedar]

.

[uncut tiger]

BANISH HIM

Ban Ban Ban Ban Ban Ban Ban Ban

[thorny steeple]

I would prefer if you wrote the answer for me . I gave you a passage that confirms that Jesus is God in Bible

[sullen cedar]

Luke 18:19 Jesus refused and said he’s not a God (why do you call me Good? No one is Good expect GoD alone ). John 14:28 my father is greater than I.

[solemn frost]

Luke 18:19 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<19> And Jesus said to him," Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

John 14:28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<28> You heard me say to you,' I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

[sullen cedar]

.

If he was a God he would said it directly but he never did

We believe Jesus he the prophet of God

But we don’t worship him

[lime cobalt]

I just read a book. The concept of heaven cannot be separated from the conditions of society in that era. For example, in heaven, there would be maidens waiting for you. This reflects the society at the time, which regarded women as the ultimate pleasure.

Guess what religion?

[thorny steeple]

First, he asks the young man why he calls him good, since “no one is good but God alone.” Notice here especially what Jesus does not say. Jesus does not say that he is not God. He simply asks the young man why he called him good. Then, he makes a theological statement. Only God is good. The direct, simplistic way to understand what Jesus is saying here would be that this young man made a mistake by calling him “Good Teacher.” But Jesus does not say that. He leaves it open – open to another possible meaning. That meaning is this – that Jesus in fact is good and, therefore, that he is God. The logic at play here goes like this: 1) Only God is good, 2) Jesus is clearly good, 3) Jesus is God.
In this way, Jesus is here once again teaching wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove in the midst of wolves. For those who don’t have ears to hear, he is merely saying what every 1st-century Jewish person believed – that only God is good. For those with ears to hear, he is affirming that he is good and therefore he is God. And for those who would accuse him of blasphemy before his time has come, Jesus has subtly claimed divinity in a way that does not yet give them something solid to grab hold of. Source:https://entrustedtothedirt.com/2024/07/18/why-does-jesus-say-no-one-is-good-but-god-alone/

[sullen cedar]

But he said he will learn more and more how God is learning about himself

?

[thorny steeple]

where

[sullen cedar]

Show me where he said

[lime cobalt]

Imagine a concept of heaven that is still heavily focused on worldly pleasures, not symbolic or spiritual pleasures, and people still say this was created by God?

Why not do it in the world itself? Why does it have to be in heaven?

[sullen cedar]

It’s a bible word ya can read it bruh

And I respect everyone opinion don’t start being disrespectful

[olive herald]

Omg u guys are yapping a lot so find

[sullen cedar]

Mary is believe that already I never said (all Christian)

[olive herald]

Fun

[sullen cedar]

@thorny steeple

Prophet and Messenger:
The Quran consistently refers to Jesus as a prophet and messenger of God, sent to guide the Children of Israel.
Miraculous Birth:
Jesus's birth to Mary is described as a miraculous event, born without a father, highlighting his special status.
"Word of God":
Jesus is referred to as "Kalimat Allah," meaning the "Word of God," and "spirit from Him," signifying his divine origin and connection to God.
Not Crucified:
The Quran explicitly denies the crucifixion of Jesus, stating that a likeness of him was made to appear so, and he was raised to God.
Second Coming:
The Quran indicates that Jesus will return to Earth before the Day of Judgment, playing a role in establishing justice and truth.

I never said all Christian 😭

[thorny steeple]

If you don't believe that Jesus is a God, you are not Christian

[thorny steeple]

But there is historical evidence of Jesus crucifixion

Yes and ?

What exactly?

[shy summit]

There is not

The only ‘evidence’ we have is second/thirdhand testimony.

[sullen cedar]

Yes I did if that video is true then he’s stupid because in Islam they don’t call that Muslim brother

it’s the human make things disgusting not religion

Because I think afghans people are like that

[thorny steeple]

What kind of idea is this?

[sullen cedar]

I didn’t I send the verses the verses were true

[shy summit]

Let’s not generalize people by stereotype pls

[sullen cedar]

Then most people there not whole they show Islam as a bad religion because there’s no rule dua that in Islam 😭

[thorny steeple]

Bro he is the son of God…

[sullen cedar]

I didn’t I’m sorry I said some people there

Bruh I’m not 😭

[thorny steeple]

Funny

[sullen cedar]

I even asked a person from there a couple of day bruh

He was from there

[magic olive]

It’s #🧠｜serious-chat
And there’s no intent of being racist. What we avoid here are personal attacks and slurs.

[merry ore]

Dude, English Helpers aren't friking mods. We just answer English questions 😭

[hybrid herald]

That's serious chat

[magic olive]

Lmfao

[hybrid herald]

U have to argue

[thorny steeple]

I and the Father are one.” John 10:30

[solemn frost]

John 10:30 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<30> I and the Father are one."

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

[hoary glen]

[hybrid herald]

U again

[magic olive]

I got pinged

[thorny steeple]

Doesnt mean he is a god

[hybrid herald]

My pro ❤️

[sullen cedar]

Bruh he told me some cultures in Pakistan and afghans are like that don’t let woman decide for themselves

[merry ore]

People are dum

[thorny steeple]

Nor does it mean he is the same thing

[magic olive]

My pro max

[hybrid herald]

My ultra

[magic olive]

XD

[sullen cedar]

And I never reported ya bruh

[thorny steeple]

Also its interesting when people argue belief forgetting it being argued from the belief that it is true

[magic olive]

Nah, you misunderstood me.

[hybrid herald]

Yes he did

[thorny steeple]

Dum dum dum

[magic olive]

You can just open a #🛂｜report-help tho

[thorny steeple]

Are you Christian at all?Because it changes your opinion

[sullen cedar]

I’m in Kurdistan and woman is free and they respect woman and man same we can do what we want

[hybrid herald]

Racist

[thorny steeple]

You do realize being agnostic makes my opinion the same value as yours…

[hybrid herald]

Remove the f-ing ewww

[sullen cedar]

Because the mod was in here when u were talking

[hybrid herald]

Racist against religion

[spice bobcat]

Calma muchachos calma

[hoary glen]

what?

[sullen cedar]

Bruh I’m not Iraqi 💀I’m Kurdish and I’m free if I wanted or no if I marry or no stop saying stuff 💀

[magic olive]

[thorny steeple]

You know, it's for me obvious that Muslim will deny that Jesus is a God, but if Some Christian do this, it's totally different conversation