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Did I say kill gay people or make them disappear? No, but being gay will kill you so it's your matter before it's mine, and stay away from my children
Perhaps your children will be gay
Now your taking absolute BS
If infanticide is natural, why shouldn't humans engage in it too?
Just say its just not natural, if it was and if it is moral everybody should have agreed with gays
and its just not happening
Do animal babies have rights?
Are you just picking and choosing what's "natural"
Then why aren't you a vegan?š
Shouldn't you practice what you preach? Why are you "dishonest"?
It's not that simple. Lemme say being gay is a sin okay? But that's not just it. Being gay doesn't just harm you physically and psychologically but it also affects the society you live in. Just like adultery, two individuals had an illegal intercourse but is that just the matter? Ofc not. If adultery is just a moral sin and doesn't harm everyone will fuck anyone and the world will still be fine without any abusing crimes or whatever.
I dare you to go to Chechanya and say it openly that you support homosexuality and see what happens next, even if it's jusy moral in one factor, in reality its far from being moral you cant prove me wrong
Chechnya is a shithole why would he take it into consideration
Then please do not use the fragment of the macro narration to fastoon it.
Well if you want a solid basis about the intended nature of men, then the bible is what you need
That's really disgusting
If something happens to be moral everybody should accept it why not Chechaya?
It does not-
Chechnya is exactly why it should be accepted, everything that happens there is the opposite of moral, they even have multiple wives
You're new here, please don't talk to Minecraft. He's on the spectrum and is a weirdo in general
The bible is very much a solid foundation and the holy word of God. It is also the āmanualā of how and why everything here on earth was created-
Ayayā¦
Animals do all three of those, ducks mate with their rapist and bring up his offspring
Not just Chechaya theres a list out countries therefore its not good to a gay it's not going to benefit you everywhere in the World lmao
Isn't it natural?
Now youāre just making things up- and thatās really not the case
Use formal language. Avoid vulgarity.
Did I mention it? No. I'm just telling in example and use the word "sin" for something that is undeniably wrong. I'm not telling you to believe being gay is a sin but I think you catched my point
Are you approving of r*pe?
ENGLISH IS ENGLISH
It doesn't benefit anywhere just as it's not a benefit to be a woman, what's the point
I'm trying but Ig I took it seriously lol
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Now you make the distinction?
Lol, you were able to express your thoughts and opinions nonetheless
LoL
What decides your morals?
ā¦now youāre just being repetitive 
Then better not talk about it š¤·āāļø
if its crap
Is it you?
It's always morally mandated to respect the peripery in which the discourse is taking place.
Even on the Chinese internet, his view is not welcome
I know šššš
Thank you, Sir.
They'd clap him in BiliBili
Why do you feel that its wrong cause its wrong, same applies to homosexuality
Okay then is it okay if I killed you and said the morals I decided makes this okay?
His minority, Not all Chinese hold the same fascist viewpoints with him
Generally speaking we are still reasonable
I don't feel like homosexuality or being a woman is wrong though
In general, fuck mo
Your opinion is still yours
Then why are you arguing with the other guy
You are bro, he's just a weirdo, I don't even count him as Chinese

nobodys keep you away from being homo whatsoever
cause he started it first he trying to normalise it which can't happen you can't make it happen
If you had studied philosophy, you would never have asked this question.
Hahaha, hilarious
Thank you!
Too bad, already happened in many countries
Agree to yourself and go away not come back if your trying to make people agree with what ur thinking
its just going to create worse situations
in simple words what youre doing rn isnt moral
Different tradition, like a lot of Muslims/Arabic countries. For me it the same like saying why those don't wear suits.
Didn't it happen in Sweeden?
Morality is just a word and its meaning is subjective
Yk bro just look at history. Being gay, long ago, was something wrong. But then people gathered and started making it okay using money, fake information, numbers, and even laws. Being gay is still something questionable and it won't be proven or agreed upon to be a normal and natural thing. So don't try to explain why it should be okay because even if people agreed for something and it's universally wrong by the laws of the creator of the universe, it's still wrong. I swear anybody who have studied for real will never be convinced even if he said he is
So whatever you think or understood from this message. A wrong thing will be wrong forever and you will face the punishment sooner or later and you can't escape that even if the whole earth is with you
What is the topic,
Is it natural to be gay
This whole time were you able to make a single person to your side? nope thats the proof straightforward everybody you were deabating with was against you
It is an 'if' scenario. Give a strong example. Donāt disrespect motherhood
If you think that its not harming anybody, try saying this in Chechnya buddy
Lmao, something odd yet very engaging at this point
It's against the mothernature.
Don't know
That's it
That's not a good move buddy
Sending an image of a banned message might cause for you ban
Being gay was never the intended nature of men, and it is abnormal. Least to say, itās wrong-
@thorny steeple Your just wasting your time bud with your crappy ideas
I did him a favor
Many members of this server could benefit from a semester of philosophy classes to learn about ethical behavior and presenting sound arguments, rather than resorting to vulgarity.
It was long message, I have to type it all over, to lazy
Now you are creating your own scenario bro I didn't say most of what you just said now
Lmao..that might do everyone some good-
You never provide that butthole is meant for sex your were just ragebaiting
ā¦lol, look whoās talking about being subjective 
Main idea of penis and vagina, breeding and making babies or to continue the lineage (same thing) otherwise being gay or lesbian can be caused by social exclusion or hormonal disorders
I can never make you right cus all you have in your mind is just crappy ideas and a closed door you have to open it yourself i can never do that
Nowā¦thereās a difference between the intended nature of men, and the human nature of men-
There are more people against it that people who do it so its defenetly wrong bud
Elaborate it further
If a man or woman cannot get enough attention from the opposite sex, this may direct them towards their own sex.
Invalid argument
Talking about a skill issue š£ļø
Ehm just kidding
But you can't fuck men
For example, if a man has more feminine traits or a woman has more masculine traits, this can cause an exclusion in their circle, and because they feel uninterested, they may turn to those who give them attention.
No, it is
having sex with men is definitely not showing love and the whole point of gay is just this
There's a difference between bromance and romance.
it's just not gay anymore
Will you be okay if I fucked your daughter after her agreement even if we are not married?
A women or a woman , hahaha
I would, but itās kinda difficult to do it over text. Does that make sense? Eh, Iām sorry if it doesnāt 
i don't know what you mean
I didn't want to say that sorry but just answer
It's against morality.
You can love then you can love anyone, love and sex its 2 different things don't blend them together
Bruhš
The chatroom is very toxic.
Shhhh
Okay now I'm totally done
Listen bro you have morality issues
You dont know bro you don't know the reality,
can i ask you a personal question have you ever been in relationship with a girl before?
why did you leave her
I didn't say that
You can't fuck anyone you are in love with you must marry them first
Exactly
Thats what the media tells you the US it's worse
you don't get beat but you just straight up go through hell sometimes
You canātā¦
That's why it's called morality issues syndrome
Lmao
š¤£
Tell me what the purpose of marriage
I can't say anything about my mom or dad with high tones I can't say any sweare otherwise it is just like a die agreement
If they fuck unmarried that called adultery and it's immoral

The bible, thatās really it. But then again- you seem to be a very head on guy..so- 
Point made
I'm slapping yelling children to their parents
Just love? its not in what way

But you cant have sex with men
No bro that's basically adultery if they are not married
ā¦bruh what-
if your a man
Ofc no
Adultery isn't allowed for anyone
Well itās a manual- and it has laws- where over time has been revised over and over again, until there was just two
For religions it means punishment
Morality issues ²
Are you openly homosexual?
nod nod
Heās been very contradicting with his words
What are you
You don't even know what lust mean your just hating on it for no reason
Ehhh, I beg to disagree
Now I believe that fucking men makes you dumb
Bro what's wrong with you 
You guess? Lmao I don't Even understand what you just meant
Give me an evidence that you are legal
Are you Buddhist or atheist
That's how you came and all others
You are talking like we are in a scientific concert
"Prove this, prove that, and prove yourself"
No I mean you are born legally š
but being a gay can you make children? nope you have to adopt and aint everybody gonna do that
it requires money
if they're broke they're cooked
PrOVe iT
Didn't Spain literally try to annex Portugal at first
I said you are legal not turned legal
No wonder..
I already knew that from the way you speak
what does God mean
the term God @thorny steeple
Knew that since ya first started this mess 
That's not right
I didn't expect it to have the singular of "wife"
BQBWSHHAAHA
That phrase is getting really old, donāt ya think? 
so does nature, it created you the universe itself is God š¤·āāļø
you do belive in nature you do in god
You guys can't debate with atheists in any topic until they believe if god
Itās fun to annoy them though..
You dont have to be religious to believe in god
Not necessarily, you can believe it exists and not pray to it
No brainer answer
Where did they come from? lmao
Someone give me a damn tsinelas, Imma give this dude a hardcore reality check 
Most Greek philosophers were deists but not always religious
Someone didnāt study USCP..lol 
LUCA goes back to FUCA
No, LUCA is the common ancestor of all living beings
This excludes those beings that don't have living descendants nowadays
That's why the concept of FUCA exists, to include those as well
I can't agree more lol
Basically the oldest ancestor of LUCA
There could be independent lineages that aren't related or can't have offspring with our lineage
Heās been on repeat ever since other people engaged in this matter 
Could have been at least, and they went extinct or we never met them
They too would have a LUCA and FUCA assuming they exist
@thorny steeple Did you succeed in justifying butt seggs
Bruh canāt even use science right to defend his own claims and subjective opinions 
it's 5 am here here i came here when it was 2
No that's just a "what if" but FUCA is part of science, specifically paleobiology and evolutionary biology
You will see the truth in the day of judgment dw
I came in when it was 1 pm, now itās 6 pm 
That dudes just hes not gay but he woud be one
alr well, did you win the debate in which you were on the "yayy, parasitic butt seggs for the win!" side?
would*
Animals, not human beings. They are two different species.-.
The afterlife exists but only for reptiles
Humans are animals
Animals aren't just one species
why do you question my questions
Think like you want cuz you will hate thinking
Although I wish someone guides you fr
thats blasphemous of you
Nobody loves to see people be punished in that day
Bro
You exist, that's it
We are classified as mammals and knowledgeable beings among everything else- but what I meant was the intended nature of men 
That's just philosophical bullshit though, it's not about taxonomy or biology
If it is nobody will speak
I do remember Aristotle saying that we are animals- I studied many philosophers during my 11th grade, but have forgotten most of them 
to know that first you need to learn what the term God stands for and then youll get the answer yourself
There is a room for memes bro we need some lol
Mhm philosophy- eh, my bad. Lmao, Iāve been bombarded with a ton of opinions and claims..hehe. Donāt forget to take breaks in between- this matter has been going on for a while now 
How do you exist? Is it that random bullshit?
Animal means "having breath" or "having soul" since anima in Latin means both soul and breath
There's no Him/her for god LMAO
ā¦youāre gonna get a taste of my asian remedy of a reality check grabs tsinelas
The Swedish Empire too
Bruh
Tell my how everything exists and how the universe began
We all know about the singularity theory, but how did the singularity exist
How can you be serious ppl still think earth is flat
Perhaps it was already there
atp i think this dudes a 14yo science kid
Don't think religious people don't study science because we actually prove and have something to prove using both religion and science
Yeah how lol
There isn't an how or why, it simply was there
Well, you are not so far but im not 14 lol
If nothing can be created or destroyed then it means it wasn't created, it was already there
Im not talking about you the other guy "flush"
Swedish meatballs exist because the Swedish king came to the ottoman empire because of protection from Russians and he likes meatballs in Constantinople and when he came back to his country he made that meatballs to swedish
Indian and Indian seem to be the same
How does that make since, we have logic, science, math, everything that exist in the universe to make everything makes sense, but how about the singularity itself

Same Same but different
Indean vs Indian
Indians vs Pakistanis, (Hindu ones vs Muslims ones both of them indian)
Are you Indian?

A simple answer, god created it
How god exist? Idk but atleast that's out of the universe it doesn't have to follow the same rule, and religions actually prove god because god knows that we can't know everything
He made us to worship and we won't know if he didn't say so. That's why there are prophets
Aren't they middle easterns
Sort of
Wasn't that a random claim by someone on Twitter, they were simply invented in Denmark or Germany
Nothing from Twitter,
Why do you keep bringing that up..
Because we don't know everything about the universe, why would we know about an event that happened long before we existed and that isn't repeatable in a lab
That's Twitter lol
But we study everything else don't we?
Yeah
God created a tree doesn't mean that hes a tree
-Sneako
Is the big bang experimental?
Official account of Sweden yes,
That same account later said it's not accurate
Bible is a fabrication.
No
@fresh flower
Dude duck means to avoid them š¤¦āāļø
like you duck your somebody in a fight
We have evidence of it but it can't be repeated in a lab
Is bible the only thing that you got for religion???
face palms
say openly Say Fuck
Where and how was the Swedish meatball born? We had little doubt about its origins last week. Weāve since come to realise that culinary history is complex. There are countless versions of the meatball across the world. Your favourite? Hereās ours: https://t.co/tL2gUf9h0U https://t.co/2ywlDiZfc9
Okay then how about studying religion since there is an answer to the singularity 
Religion doesn't answer singularity or anything else in a scientific way, the two things are completely unrelated
Are you half finnish and half Ukrainian?
No it's called singularity dear atheist
The big bang is the explosion happened after the singularity expanded
You are supposed to give replicable results in a lab to be viable, but religion doesn't do that
This is hypocrisy
No

So do i, i follow Jesusto become a better man not to go to hell or heaven idc
Tf are you saying dude
It's not, everyone knows they had frikadeller in the 17th century if not earlier
The singularity was the point, when it expanded you had the big bang which was literally an explosion
FAKE NEWS
In the 16th century. Ottomans did too
ai don't care about hell or heaven if it teaches you to become a better version of yourself why not?
a book is like, you can get somebody 20 years of experience from hours to days, for free
Well you might got my "explosion" word wrong then. Or maybe I understand the word wrong. But anyway the singularity is the point for sure
Yeah because they got them from Romans, the Romans had them many centuries earlier. I'm just talking about frikadeller, those have German or Danish origins
Official swede government lil bro

In Asia too,
You dont have to follow him you can read it tho
They retracted the statement btw
Freudian slip 
Maybe they hired a Turk manage the account
Just accept it 
Just pick up whats good and don't care about whats bad thats how you read it
It's not a problem to me, Swedish culture is entirely stolen from Danish and Finnish anyway
Chatgpt edited image
Someone hacked them
Can the master establish relations with the servants wife?
@fresh flower
Get her Ollie
Anyway for the people who cares to know, the singularity was the point that everything came from, and the one who created it was god and it wasn't random
So basically if you studied islam for a bit you will actually love to worship god. He is the most merciful and all-knowing and you are under his observation all the time
Kofte is a dish made in different forms all around the world, with each cuisine adding its own unique touch. Known to have originated in Central Asia and Mesopotamia, the earliest name for kofte was "meatball" Later, it began to be referred to as "kuffette" in written sources.
Just mad we colonized them
He's on the seventh sky (closer to god than you are)
And cya the next century I don't think I'll enter this chat again
Yes you if want to
cus tahts what i did
before you get deep
let me ask you a question, can you change the bible yourself for this?
you cant
It's fine, you also created Finnish nationalism
That's because they didn't go far
Slavery had been there since day 1 the Romans did it right
It was beautiful
hi?
At least before they genocided Poles
Why is genocide so common in human civilization
Are you talking about bible or islam?
Cuz I can explain slavery in islam with actual proofs this time, and it's actually not allowed
Humans are immoral unlike parrots, they are extremely tolerant

A slave is just you can't just take anyone and leash them so that can serve for you
bible was written 2000 years ago when slavery was a thing and the people who wrote it they tried to get rid of it this way
Is it because we don't have a defined set of morals? (Subjective morality)
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Looks a lot like the Rashidun caliphate
@thorny steeple
The caliphate fell it will never recover
Yes, we make them along the way unlike reptiles
Did god wrote the bible? nope
why are you blaming god? lmao
I promise you to rethink about islam
There's slavery in the Bible
Mix of rashidun and Byzantium
I don't wanna know that but who wrote it that matters
Nope but every abrahamic religion has slavery in their book
Mehmet the conqueror calls himself a kaiser too
Pagan? Like whar
But it's different. Slavery rules in islam actually stopped slavery
Eh arabs had slavery lol
I'm tengrist
Yall gotta check this guy's channel in general tbh
.
@chilly shoal
Tuff
Ok but you can't deny there hasn't been slavery in islam
It's in every abrahamic religon
Pretty much
Throats sound comings
Are you native American?

Yes
You know why? Slavery existed before islam
And the islamic rules in slavery made it stop
How's life as a native?
You can't deny it didn't happen tho
Bad, Good whatsoever
Islam is abrahamic ..WHAT??
Eh ok
No ur dumb
Bro watch the video for god sakeš
I was joking lmao I'm agnostic
You will understand what am I trying to say
Ik my middle eastern history buddy
I understand what you're saying but it did happen
Gay
Wasn't the British Empire responsible
Okay it happened, but what then?
Nobodys forcing you to
Ok it's just wrong to say it didn't happen
He is
I didn't say so
Bible also copied from jews and jews copied abit from zoroastrians
He is
I don't worship somebody wdym? i worship my ancestors that's how we do it in Sioux and Osage Tradition
Interesting
He is an antecedent
Sure but God exists
His grandfather believes ibrahims religion
When you got this ,
earth is no longer flat š https://youtu.be/zYYZMJL5aBc
Like the grand grand grand . . . .. grand father
Right
I know my family history until 300 ish years
Adam = Adem
?
That's my name btw
Ur a retardddd you just proved it now
Um
He is
Serious chat is thriving today
Man I'm out
Bro you made me enter the channel
You came, you saw, you conquered
Lmao
Conflicting opinions are good to this channel
He's literally from the lineage of ismail
I don't belive in god but i belive in my culture my traditions
What's the debate
Shah ismaik mentioned
No need for validation, his lineage coming from Abraham

You're atheist
Most of the prophets coming from the same lineage
yep
Shah ismail mentioned
i Said it i am
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Did you ever have butt seggs
As you can see it in there too
Anyway guys for real watch this video even if you are not planning to convert or became a muslim it's just clearing the misunderstanding. It's good to have knowledge
Where are you from saar
Saar temu india saar
Just look at the top
Yup Buddy keep on licking mens Butthole
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No sarr it is bery grape sarr
Then how do you know butthole has pleasure points
Then your holy bible is wrong because it is a real thing except from religions, it's real lineage
Why not men? is that disgusting for you
May have talked to mustafa prolly

Non gay gay warrior
I but follow Jesus....
Amen
@spice bobcat he's the true gay warrior
So if somebody offered you whatever you want for licking thier butt and giving them a b job will you do it?
1 kings 15:12 drive em out
<12> He put away the male cult prostitutes out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
Not men so you hate gays too
why is you taking like if ut sounded disgusting to you
Do you like children
<35> Jesus wept.
Everyone does.
Will you let your girl wear a fake š
and let her poke you?
Now we getting freaky hold on
I AMMM A CHILDDDDDDDD NO
How are you so sure? Did you try poking yourself with the other end of your toothbrush in the bathroom?

Hold on timeout
Didn't know there were so many pdf files
Are you
Huh? I just like children what does that have to do with pedophilia
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Dumbasses here
He said that not being attracted to gays is the same as hating them
NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOO
they dont know the difference between loving and being attractive to
No I hate them under every aspect
That's fallacious indeed.
So you'll do if your girls a trans?
Delete this then I will delete mine
Tit for tat ahh
Talk about something else bro
This place is extremely NSFW now
Hes confessing
He's hell bent on proving 2SLGBTQIA+ is natural
Why not they identify as she/her why not??
Who's baptising him next?
Most serious topics are NSFW
probably hell do it Himself
Such as anal douching
Dirty talking about religion
Dinosaurs aren't
so its a women you said you like women? the why you feel like its gross
How's it natural tho
No one's interested in velociraptors here, sadly 
Because it exists in animal?
Ankylosaurus pummels everyone
Now ur bringing up God here
Where's Britain
They're already there
You said you'll let your girl do that š¤£š¤£ dude stop
Heil colonisation
Oh so male pregnancy is found in nature as well. Where tf is your baby bump, Einstein
Noooooo its Indeans
Sea horses hell yeah
You were saying it was gross and now its the other way LMAO
In Sea horses
Jews worship cow too when Moses gone to pray
The male gets pregnant

š š
You're sending proof of the baby bump tomorrow
......
Where you from btw
Yay
You guys are still going on head strong 
You just did. If it exists in nature in one species, it doesn't make it natural that's what the answer to your question is
Pakistan?
You just checkmated yourself
You are killing evolution right now,
Not this again
You said it yourself LMAO
Its your logic not mine yours lmao
You are human not another animal
You got into the server a day ago only yo ragebait šš
Pigs eating shit , does it mean you can eat too
Just be gay, Leave us alone. 
Animals that show necrophilia is natural (penguins and otters)
Animals that show shooting blood through your eyes is natural (horned lizards)
Animals that show robust organs is natural
(Octopuses and bees)
What are you trying to prove
Just don't go around spreading a propaganda.
Bro does not the atrocity
GROSSSS ššš
The fuck are robust organs
@restive finch 
Yk they detach them and throw it to their mate
š
You are the biggest mistake of humanity
I couldn't say explosive
Then
Stop hating others guys show some love
Both of them lose it
not in a gay way
Yeah that's what I wanted to say, my apologies
Alright, Just don't tell people to become gay. 
How is the relevant-
You like it šÆ
you said licking on mens but is fine and you were among those people stop shuffling things š
Pakistan committed a genocide
We areeee animals too look at other animals doing ittttt why weeeee not (he is fucking the mean of being human and evolution)

The stories are disturbing. I don't think I'd support my country after that
Here we go again-
I guess he's projecting
Oh, Well, They're dumb for fighting, just be whoever you want, There're anomalies even in universe but It doesn't matter.
Is @restive finch Pakistani
I'm too big that's why
Or I can kill you without any punishment, because animals are not taking punishment for that
I'm pakichu
He's an educated Pakistani

Oh so you're East Pakistani 
In mass bruzz
You said its okay to do it
Yes, alpha particles have greater mass than beta particles you dummy physics preacher
RAHHHHHH š£ļøš£ļøš£ļøš£ļø SARR REPUBLIC OF PAK SARRR
NOT ISLAMIC SARR š£ļøš£ļø
That means if somebody forced you to will
Damn I didn't know he was freaky like that. What did bro do
Brother
It was a double entendre
š
did you graduate from a Wendy's bro?
Omg
I'm leaving
šš
Particles are rays
My bellybutton is my mouth
Like wtf
Than**
You're forgetting bout Gamma bruzz
I don't know, everyone's gay a bit, Only few are brave to admit it, and well, we'll turn into dust and ashes in 100 years, let them judge.
I have none
OK
Abbottabad city gng
This is not light gng
I mean you're right
Guy's mindfucked us bro
Shut up sherlock knowing about electrons, protons, neutrons ain't gonna do shit, You'll die, turn to dust and ashes.
Almost everyone here is from the subcontinent
If you're wondering why it is the way it is
Another "Fun with real video" video. Not responsible for the content, just the editiing
We need pakistan to be christian
Oops, I entered this chat again
Dual nature of light
Tf
You meant photons
This is amazing
Have more meanings then your
What if a religion that makes you better to good tells you to be good with humans

@magic olive good luck surviving bro
Nah , iām outta here
Back to general

You'll have fun
Skill issue of people

There are just so many things to give as an example in islam just you look yourself

And to be fair lemme give one
You misunderstand how it works
No no, it's not someone who doesn't believe. It's someone who leaves Islam
Muslims are obligated to kill them
Have you ever got threatened bro?
Do you know the ottoman empire right
Did I say become a muslim or I'll kill you?
It's actually the opposite
Under the ottoman empire there were so many religions and the other things
Are they dead ?
Also creates mass murderers and burns dj Bruno and witches and those who don't believe flat Earth .
People used to convert because they liked the attitude of Muslim people
Are you kidding me bro lol

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060
It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:
"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"
These things were written after 150 years of prophet Muhammad death
Idk, it's upto the higher islamic court (sharia court)
It's graded sahih
Allah says the Quran is the only source
This is contextual ya 7mar

Did you just looked at a random phrase without knowing the context or who is the ones who are supposed to be killed? That's just stupid
Go to flat earth VC, they will call you a "piece of shit" and ban you from the chat. I think they'd burn you if they could.
Allah also says to follow the hadith and prophet's words
I do. Everyone should have freedom of religion. But the law doesn't change
Allah says follow prophet words , when the prophet lives it is okay because he is still alive people can learn religion from him but this book is written after 150-200 years of prophet death
Okay tell me
Why didn't the government in Saudi Arabia killed all the tourists or tried to do once, although it's an islamic country and follows the rules in the religion. And also Indonesia and Malaysia
And the prophet is not doing anything against Quran when he is alive
And the Quran says it is the only source for learning Islam
And in fact Allah knows everything about the future or other things
No it's not
How if this disbeliever was a traitor who was pretending to be a muslim and was betraying the Muslims during their war
Who said that.
No it is correct
I'm agnostic.
Its 250 years later and can easily be excused as legends it also contradicts the quran
I was born in a Muslim family
Give me a second and I'll give you the full explanation in details
It does not. It's authentic narrations which can't be disproved due the immense and sheer sternness of the isnad.
If you really read them you have to know even on the first sentence that Allah says this book is the only guide to learn Islam
The prophet says to follow his predecessors so you tell me. Is hadith not to be followed
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Nope, the ruling is for the higher law to judge if execution is necessary or not. Pakistan isn't nearly as islamic as you think it is
That's a different story
Surah 2:256
No compulsion in region
Also watch joshua little he has talked about this for 3 hours that the hadiths arent history he is an oxford scholar
Secular scholars dont care about hadiths
"Secular" scholars.
No, because hadiths can be manipulated , they are not holy or something , it is the reason why Allah says just only follow Quran
Allah warning people against it
250 years later stories are legends not historical
Joshua little destroys hadiths lmao
Hadith are put through rigorous methods of authenticity how can you say they can be tainted when they've been followed for longer than you have existed
Okay you do not understand one thing
When the Quran came to humanity the prophet was alive right
He was the source of learning Islam with Quran right
Joshua little is not a scholar or anything. That doesn't mean anything bruzz, the sanad is the crux of authenticity. Not the opinions of scholars
And there were so many people not following Muhammed in that era and Allah says follow him,
Read about hadith science from a reputable muhaddith
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When prophet Muhammad is alive it is okay
Joshua little is literally a oxford scholar š bro is yapping
It's in English dw
Written after 200 years of prophet Muhammad death
No secular scholar cares about hadith "science" tomfoolery
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š it's literally a fundamental part of islam
Why am I doing this
Facts dont care about your religionš š
He said that they still do and there could be some authenticity to certain proverbs but it isn't easy to guess which ones and it's certainly not reliable to base it off the religiously accepted authenticity
Did the phrase say kill all disbelievers? No it was only for a group of people and they are called disbelievers in this phrase
In general it's quite easy to tell which ones were wholly fabricated but they don't follow the "science" they claim to follow
If you say I'm learning Islam from Hadith books or someone shechk it is wrong or banned thing
Fairytales*
Because Allah saying this book is the only guidance
Read hadith science bruzz šš»
Over
Again tomfooleryš¤
Idk about that but prove him wrong if you dare
He literally stated facts and that's it, you got the phrase wrong
Watch your tone
I don't think it's possible to pass down those sayings and proverbs for centuries and then write them down as they were initially communicated
Most Muslims are not reading the Quran so it is normal
If they read they will see this Hadith staff or other staff are actually wrong for Islam
You asked me is it okay to kill disbelievers according to the phrase you provided
My answer is you understood the phrase wrong bro
Allah warning people against that
Iām only 17 
Which word you didn't understand? Dude, the phrase basically didn't say that. Are you blind?
Just imagine Allah is warning against humans so they will say I'm a believer but he won't be and when this sentence came there were only less than ten Muslim
Pardon? 
Allah knows everything and warned Muslims
But most Muslims are stupid as not read that

At this point I suggest you to study English first so you can understand what I'm trying to tell you
Allah bans sects , shecks, and other things to collapsing people in the Quran for example
Okay tell me which disbelievers did the phrase mention and at what time it was told
F
I literally told you the disbelievers who are mentioned in this phrase are and only the traitors
And lemme give you some history so you can understand
Lie here means "to wait"
In three months Recep Åaban ramazan there are sacred months Allah bans the fighting each other
What is wrong with that ?
For you
It is for Muslims
Not for non believers ,
Read the continuation of the sentence
In the sacred months,
Sacred months are three months
And Allah says if they said sorry relaise them
At a time in history, muslims lived in makkah which is a sacred city where is no non Muslims should enter and at that time the people who used to live there have to pay a small amount of money to the ruler and follow the rules so they do not disturb the Muslims and betray them. The disbelievers in the whole phrase are only the people who betrayed and didn't pay the money. And whenever you see them was told to make Muslims be careful from those traitors who betrayed and disbelieved, not any disbeliever on earth
That's all
Huh
There are just so many things to be told but that's the ''killing disbelievers" misunderstanding you have
Yeah but you didn't read the remaining phrases or knew what the phrase meant to tell
No difference between being a traitor to your country and to your religion
He says that if they repent relaise them
Not saying just only kill
There are options for non believers
These phrases are not just telling Muslims what to do, some are messages for the Muslims for that time long ago before 1400 years and you have nothing to do with them if I could say
No are you reading the sentence with your ass or something read full sentence
If they repent you don't have to kill them
But if they do not and still continue it Allah says kill them
Because it is damaging the society
What?
And other things
It is not only about religion, most of civilizations if you get damaged the society or other stuff you can easily be punished with death
What do you mean
But Allah gives an option to live too
If they don't say sorry we do wrong we are not doing it again kill him
But he says it's banned to kill him
Huh
What are you saying dude
Because you are doing bad things in the sacred months
Okay?
Just do good stuff,
Don't lie, protect the poor, make your money without black staff
Wtf
whaa
Are you stupid or something, we are not living in 7th century anymore we have own constitutions
The person who got the least treat in jannah will have what an emperor have 10 times and that's in terms of having only
There are so many things to tell but basically what an eye have never seen and what an ear have never hear and what a person could never imagine
Quran have nice laws too
That's what the prophet said about jannah
In the ottoman empire there were 2 law book
What's that? You mean porn or what
Allah is getting happy if I only say the people Thank you
It is pray too
Smiling other people, don't lie, protecting other people
There are all prays
In Islam praying is not only doing namaz or giving zekat
There are "the houris". I hope this is the word in English lol
If you are a good person it makes Allah happy for you
You want sex? In jannah you will have it for halal yk
plot twist, emperor here is in the context of the Holy Roman Empire
In the 7th century everything was different
You think this book came in 21th century
they had almost notohing...
When 7th century there was moral too kill if you get someone rich in the world
emperors only in name
What? Well then no lol
If you say someone witch christians was killing until the end of middle age
The world was like that
tried to wait this class (ILTS class) for over 45m,
how to know when the class are cancelled?
Nothing in duniyaa is compared to what's in jannah
Are you stupid or something just look at 7th century world
Other civilizations and laws
And then look at Quran
And talk after that
In 7th century vikings have moral kill everyone if he or she not viking
hi everyone!
No they didn't lol
If they did there would be no Slavs in Eastern Europe
Yeah it is saying like ottomans genocide balcans
Right

In jannah you can just want something and you get it. You yourself will be a really cheerful and nice person their that the most tortured man will say I've never seen a bad day when he enter
That happened in Anatolia
They enslaved the Balkans but no major genocides there
All of them? There is no all in jannah the things are limitless
No
That's literally stated
Why then Anatolia still has so many nations living their culture and believes

It doesn't, Armenians are pretty much gone there, Greeks and Assyrians too are few. Only Kurds are significant
You're welcome my brother š
Greeks are few because they have gone Greek and Turks living In Greece come here
Armenians still have their own country right
Again I'm not lying in any of those you can look for them if you want
Population transfer and the genocide of Pontic Greeks as well
You are misunderstood something
Just imagine
Kurds don't, also those are eastern Armenians
Western Armenians are almost completely gone, most of them don't even live in Turkey but Lebanon, Israel, Jordan
Your country in world war , you are fighting with world major powers and some people starting to guerilla fight against you finances by these major powers what if you country than in that situation
This is a phrase talking about that but idk if it's translated here
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I heard of that story, too bad no historian thinks it's true, and even if it were it's collective punishment which is a crime
Children aren't rebels
Answer my question please
Children aren't rebels so the question makes no sense
Turk child's was not soldiers too
Exiling or killing random non combatants isn't the same as killing rebels
O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa [i.e. one of the Muttaqun (pious - see V. 2:2). Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware
He would be really confused but 72 angels as servants are still useful, I'd make them play with me in LAN parties
Think about the stinky mix of fear of the hell, wish for free paradise and dream of being the good and saint. That forced people to do the most cruel and insane crimes in the history of human kind.
^ to you
All sides commit war crimes, but Armenians didn't commit a genocide. It's like saying Americans did war crimes on Germans in WW2... Yeah they did, they didn't genocide Jews
I got what he meant later
For information to you , old Greek villages are still in there
I don't like parties much, I like LAN parties tho
With very few Greeks living there, if any
Turks or Greeks
Yeah because populating gone to Greece
And Turks come to Turkey
That sucks, luckily LAN works in hell too
Those who survived yes, not Pontic Greeks
Because it's LAN, you don't require wi-fi since that works in heaven only
Pontic Greeks do rebellions against us
LAN works underground
Armenians too ,
Bro if everyone was revolting maybe the Ottomans were doing something wrong
And for information for you there are still Armenian people living in turkey
Finances by major powers,
It's how LAN works, it's a direct connection between devices, usually through a local WLAN or directly with cables
Like I said before they are extremely few lmao, that's like saying there are still Jews in Germany
I think heaven is real (it's called Mesozoic) but humans aren't eligible for it, only reptiles
But this is just my opinion
The ottoman was in the world war and it was the weakest time of the empire and these major powers want the rich lands of Anatolia and for invading it they financed these nations to rebel against Turks
Just look at the map after Sevr treatment
It makes sense after that
Shouldn't have built an empire I guess, happens when you conquer other people and they are the majority in their lands
I'll be the next Sultan Suleman
Why every nation build their own empires
No
Turks was strong to do that
No all major powers do that
Those are not the majority of countries in the world
British empire, Spanish empire, Portuguese empire,
French empire , Russian empire
German empire
Ishqiya Uddin Muhammad bin bakhtiyar Khilji
Roman empire
What's wrong withem
Every big nation made their own empires
Sultan Muhammad
It's good when they collapse
Because they had enough power to do that
And world in this times ruled like this
You are thinking like 21th century mind but it is history
To do what
Facts were different in that times
To conquer
Doing genocide was always wrong lol the term wasn't invented in the 21st century
Ohh
It's fact fr
It was invented around the 40s so not that long after most empires fell
And 20-40 years later pretty much no empires were left anymore
And most of every nation does that too even some empires do that their own people
So? That only makes most nations shameful
Skill issue then, for Armenians and for pontus Greeks but they do genocide too than it is deal
If you punch me I will punch you harder
They didn't do any genocide lmao
Alternate history right here
The reality is there weren't even many Armenian rebels, if anything most were fighting alongside the Ottomans but they were betrayed anyway
And even Armenians were named in the Ottoman empire which was milleti Sıdıka it means loyal nation
But after that rebellions and war crimes
Ottoman Empire transferred into them
And killed their rebellions
But they are still crying for that,
They acted like they were hundred percent innocent
But we see this Armenian mindset against Azerbaijan too
Like , Massacre of Hocalı

Praying for their souls,
To rest in peace
These bones
Armenian rebellions
We transferred them to a different region
And killed their rebellions
If there were no Armenians left in there like they said how Armenians can control that zone

Map of bullshit btw
I said currently, can you read
You just proved there was a genocide
No
I'm saying if we do that like 1.5 million Armenian genocide
How they can control that zone if there were not left any armenians
Are you wrong with understanding to read

They don't control the zone, it's written in the map
It's a partitioning plan, do you think Italians were the majority in the green zone? Lol
Bro getting triggered by pixels
mfs reporting it like if they never used them in thier life
@thorny steeple fuck youre finished now
finnish perkele cottonhead
are you a puuvillaaa
whaaat is puuuvillllaaa
dumbass ive said it like a thousand times and never got banned once u may get muted
Cottonhead
you look like russian guy, why mainland guy said your are americans
Fuck no
im 6'2 as a 16
thats native American thing
short Europeans
No offense* š
thats fine
Did it sound like a lie? its cause your short
Jealous
Ill never be a one like you
If they care about our height let's start checking thier weights
Blend you with a colt 45 pointing at your head
i couldnt shoot you you were too short for me to snap in
Am indian,, & i understand the bengoli chats
Stop predicting like if you werent that flush thaiboy
your so stupid
What?
