🧠｜serious-chat

[tender vessel]

Anyways, it's been truly entertaining. I gotta go now.

[rugged adder]

Me too

[slender coral]

Let's pause for a second to clarify thing.
I think views around it change, not the religion itself. That's because it can't consistently work.
For example, a woman killed her children in Egypt a couple of years ago after she gave birth to a second child. She got a lot of sympathizers on her side and I think she got a lighter sentance, and some shiekhs defended her. That happened because people now are aware of how women can experience psychotic symptoms in some cases after giving birth. If something like this happened 500 years ago, the woman would've got the death penalty.
Islam didn't change, and it didn't account for such a thing, but since people's knowledge evolved, the fate of such a woman changed (or at least how she was perceived).
Islam isn't timeless, it's rulings and teachings cannot work everywhere everytime because its source was a medieval ignorant man, not an all-knowing god.

[gusty falcon]

HEY

WHAT DİD YOU SAY

I think you should stop judging peoples religions kid

[manic juniper]

So do chickens

Is there a time where cutting off a thief's hand is the ideal scenario?

[spice bobcat]

Work all night on a drink a rum

Daylight com an we wan go home

[formal pilot]

Aren't you jobless

[tender vessel]

Well, chickens don't sneak into homes and mess up food and drinks. US centers for disease control and prevention advises against touching random Geckos for these reasons.

[raven forge]

Yes I need a job

I can bomb

[tender vessel]

Yes. When the strict requirements are all met.

[manic juniper]

If you have gecko droppings in your food and drinks that seems quite irresponsible and unsafe in general

Geckos don't get into fridges or sealed food

[tender vessel]

These are:

1. The thief is sane.
2. The thief acts intentionally.
3. The thief acts voluntarily (not under coercion).
4. That he is not compelled out of hunger.
5. The stolen property reaches the legal threshold (a quarter dinar, three dirhams, or their equivalent in value).
6. That the stolen item is taken from a secured place (a protected custody).
7. That it is taken secretly (not snatched openly or seized by force).
8. The stolen property is considered respectable/valuable (i.e., not Haram stuff, although there would be punishments for those as well, not quite the same.).
9. That the theft is established by the testimony of two upright witnesses, or by a detailed confession of the thief after being accused, while he is legally accountable.

These are just to name a few, there are over 16 requirements.

[manic juniper]

Such as

[tender vessel]

Assuming you're about to eat but washing your hands, or over 314132512452314213 scenarios in which you would expose some food without being irresponsible.

[tender vessel]

Lol. I knew it.

[manic juniper]

?

[tender vessel]

I knew you'd ask for some. That's why I sent it.

[manic juniper]

Yeah that's easy to guess when someone replies really vaguely

[manic juniper]

I can't think of a scenario where food is exposed to lizards and no one is around to look at it

[tender vessel]

Well, sometimes, one must make a research to understand a subject well enough.

[manic juniper]

Besides in that instance where geckos are shittalked it isn't anything rational, it's just part of a story where a gecko attempted to kill Abraham or something like that

[tender vessel]

Okay. It happens, though. Especially when you live in places where Geckos are abundant in residential areas.

[manic juniper]

But it has nothing to do with them leaving droppings around

Also yes, chickens do jump around and can mess your food in the same conditions

[tender vessel]

I never mentioned anything about Abraham. I'm just saying that Geckos are generally unsafe.
I don't kill them, though. I mostly try to lead them out of the house.

[manic juniper]

Chickens will walk on tables and fly around if they are allowed to, they excrete more feces than geckos

[manic juniper]

I didn't say anything about you...?

[tender vessel]

It's so hard to let a chicken into a house without noticing.

Assuming we keep chickens around in the first place. Lol.

[manic juniper]

I can't think of an instance where food is exposed to geckos or lizards unless it's outside

[tender vessel]

Isfrun, you can't think of an instance, I understand. You don't have to repeat it.

[manic juniper]

I didn't say this earlier

Perhaps read twice the next time

[tender vessel]

I can't think of a scenario where food is exposed to lizards and no one is around to look at it

I can't think of an instance where food is exposed to geckos or lizards unless it's outside

These look quite the same to me. Except for the outside part.

[left dew]

Why women don't like men without money...

[eager geyser]

mental illness

[jolly laurel]

join my server for spicy content daily 💖 😊

[prisma cipher]

Because it literally mean you are not fit to continue the offspring.

[slender coral]

Some women out there would like that actually, if you stay at home and do the chores while she works..

But generally, it's a matter of social conditioning. Women have been taught to stay at home and do chores while men have been taught to suffer to provide the best life financially to their wives, children, and sometimes even other family members.

[prisma cipher]

this is natural behavior for a woman. a woman gives birth to a child and it was always not one child, but several, for example 5. to give birth to 5 children you need about a little less than 10 years, because childbirth and then recovery takes time. therefore, a woman, for biological reasons, falls out of the equation where she earns money and supports a family.

[prisma cipher]

I mean how it was until recently. Because you start talking women's don't give a birth or they have one kid. I talking how it was evolutionary

[left dew]

In fact, men are more prominent in business life and men are stronger than women and women are elegant creatures. I think that's why it happens as you say.

[fresh flower]

Elegant creatures

[prisma cipher]

So it normal thing when men getting money, it not weird sometimes, it normal

[left dew]

I didn't mean it exactly like that, it was because of the translation, think of it like a flower.

[left dew]

But in this era women may also have to work.

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[left dew]

That's why sometimes women may not show much interest in their husbands. Sometimes marriages end in divorce because they get more tired if they have children.

[prisma cipher]

I argue with sentence where dude say women taught to stay at home an raise kids, it just normal behavior for women

[hybrid herald]

You're right

[fresh flower]

Are yall in a relationship

[hybrid herald]

I guess yes

(i'm not 🥀)

[fallow shard]

[hybrid herald]

?

[thorny steeple]

Why rainbow

[hybrid herald]

Read his bio to understand

[thorny steeple]

I understand now

[hybrid herald]

"she/he"

[prisma cipher]

giving birth and raising a child put some risks in a woman life. The man, who supports her may simply die or leave her. And she hasn't worked anywhere for several years and has lost her skills. No money no work one extra mouth who you have to feed.

[thorny steeple]

Hey

[left dew]

In fact, we need to choose the person we marry carefully.

[hybrid herald]

Ofc

[left dew]

There is so much violence against women in our country. Husbands even kill their wives.

[hybrid herald]

What's your country?

[thorny steeple]

So what i can do for you

[prisma cipher]

True, but in fact we choose the person who we fell in love, when we getting to age when you smartly choosing women you might choose stay alone. because you can get women for money, and it will cost way less than wife.

[left dew]

Nothing.d

[left dew]

Money can buy everything. If you have a lot of money, you can even sleep with a different woman every night. But if you don't have money, it's very difficult to find the right woman.

[thorny steeple]

What the reason for violence

Oh you are Turkish

[hybrid herald]

I see now

[thorny steeple]

I don't care

[left dew]

:D

[fresh flower]

This isn't true

[hybrid herald]

Delete it it's better for you

[left dew]

Partially

[left dew]

Yep I'll delete

[thorny steeple]

How did they watch discord

[left dew]

Discord is banned in our country. I access it with a VPN.

It might be banned from Twitter soon

[thorny steeple]

Lol why

[prisma cipher]

Believe me, if you have meh money you can do the same but women will be less quality

[thorny steeple]

Are you ethical turks or greekc?

[left dew]

To control the society themselves, just like in North Korea or China

[left dew]

Yes I know that

[left dew]

Actually Idk but I'm Turkish my grand grand grand father was the founder and manager of our village.

[thorny steeple]

Lol I think turkey will fall

[left dew]

Everything will change after the election

[thorny steeple]

Muslim right

[left dew]

Me?

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[prisma cipher]

If you are the best hunter, you get the best female in the tribe. it works on a primitive level. if you make more money than other mens around you, you are the best hunter in the tribe.

[left dew]

It says I am Muslim on my ID card but I don't really believe in it. I rather believe in the God that the ancient Turks believed in.

[thorny steeple]

Why turks hate arab ?

[left dew]

Yes, actually need to be talented and attractive.

[fallow shard]

Gay

[rugged adder]

The reason for this hate in islam because ibraham was going to get burn with help of lizard.

[left dew]

The Arabs massacred many Turks during the Umayyad period and betrayed us and fought alongside the British in World War I. They were skinning our captured soldiers and burning some of them.

There are many immigrants in our country right now, and they have disrupted our economy and stability.

[thorny steeple]

Guess what i am arab man

[left dew]

I don't care what you are, just stay away.

The current flag of Palestine is the flag of the Arabs who betrayed the Ottoman Empire.

[rugged adder]

Who said Islam didn't account for that thing What are the conditions of marriage in Islam they both must be adult

[prisma cipher]

it's an old vestige. being the tallest and the strongest and the smartest meant being the best hunter, these indirect signs in the past indicated that you were a successful hunter. We are developed but our brain don't comprehend it completely. So women still might getting on good appearance, but often they choose fat dude with money

[slender coral]

Yeah, men are prominent in business because they are way more encouraged to get into such fields.
Again, it's a matter of social conditioning. If I raise my daughter to be financially independent, she would likely become financially independent. If I raise her to care much about accumulating wealth, she would likely do so. If I encourage her to stay at home and rely on a man for survival and a comfortable life, surprise surprise, she becomes materialistic.
Parents have huge effect on their children, add to that the effects of their environments and society and you have a society were certain traits are more associated with women, and other traits are more associated with men.
A good way to see how it's not just the "natural state of thing" is to see how many women, even in such environments, can still be independent and excel in business.

[thorny steeple]

I want umayyad came back

[left dew]

First, Arabs should stop killing each other, then you can think.

[thorny steeple]

It's improving slowly

[left dew]

Ohhh look at this massage wait I'm reading .d

[slender coral]

How is marriage related to what we were talking about?

[thorny steeple]

But at least weren't under rules turks anymore

[rugged adder]

Then how the pregnancy related to our talking about cut off hands

[slender coral]

I explained in my long ahh message and now I'm tired 🫠

[left dew]

Unfortunately, it is.

[prisma cipher]

if she chooses to be independent it means choosing to be childless. such roles did not develop due to some conspiracy of men, it is normal behavior. in the animal world many offspring are born, and can walk immediately, and do not need much supervision. a horse gives birth to a foal and it can walk immediately. a human child is born helpless and needs close attention for several years. So women physically can't do anything. Minimum 2 years

[manic juniper]

Men could take care of them instead, not necessarily women

[prisma cipher]

and on average, at work, such a woman will lose to a man. because a woman has this gap in development over several years. a man works and develops, a woman quits her job for two years, loses the skill she had and does not develop.

For most women, pregnancy is like a disease, the child is essentially a foreign body in the body. After giving birth, you also need time to recover. a woman loses time in any case, even if we come up with an ideal situation where she has reached an agreement with her husband and he is raising her child

[fresh flower]

Minecrafts alt account

[prisma cipher]

I have nothing against equality, I just think that in order to be on the same level as men, woman needs to show more strength. Like if we take two equal human women and men, the girl have to work twice hard to catch up after pregnancy.

[thorny steeple]

Woman is wife for man

[fallow shard]

[thorny steeple]

Get away

[slender coral]

You're right that traditional gender roles have biological and evolutionary aspects, but that doesn’t mean they are natural in every context. There’s a difference between something being common in evolutionary history and being normative or required in modern society.
Yes, in many species, females have historically taken on the primary caregiving role due to pregnancy, nursing, and early dependency of offspring. But human society also has culture, technology, choice, which allow us to transcend purely biological imperatives.

[prisma cipher]

Ok

[manic juniper]

I don't think there is a true link between the two besides women being able to lactate, even in animals where females take care of the offspring they still have their own active lifestyle

Lionesses for example

[prisma cipher]

Raising kids and having family is success for women, how do you make women work if she don't want to? if she like to spend time with the child and raise him, because that's how it happened for millions of years. how much this is a cultural thing, or it an evolutionary instinct, is hard to say. but for example why children seem very cute to us, any children and animals too, because this is an evolutionary mechanism, this creature needs care and we want to give it, this is the work of evolution, it is not because our parents taught us this take care of kids or puppy, they just looks cute for us.

[manic juniper]

Don't we only know about the last few thousands years

[slender coral]

Well, it's up to the woman to decide how she wanna live her life. The thing is, it's often conservatives who force women into certain rigid roles regardless of what they want and often regardless of their potential and talent, especially in the east.

[prisma cipher]

women have breasts with milk. that means she is the one who fed the child, and this was not only the last two thousand years obviously.

[feral river]

It’s also a natural ad

[manic juniper]

That's morphology, it says nothing about ethology

[prisma cipher]

It said about who take care of child.

[thorny steeple]

What are you doing here

[manic juniper]

No, female birds have the medullary bones to help laying eggs but in some birds the males are the caretaker

Mammals don't keep lactating past a certain age

[prisma cipher]

a woman is weaker than a man on average, she has breasts to feed a child, people do not have fur, a child cannot grasp the fur and give freedom to the mother's hands. as monkeys do. a woman looked after the child and sat at home for millions of years

[manic juniper]

These are just conjectures, we really don't know

[prisma cipher]

Ok we not sure about millions, but it definitely hundreds of thousands years

But I bet before it was the same

[manic juniper]

Being weaker isn't really indicative

[prisma cipher]

Not interesting in bulshiet talking

[manic juniper]

Female eagles are much stronger than males but they stay with the chicks more than the males do

In chimps females prefer to hunt lower quality food that has more chances of successful gathering

[prisma cipher]

different animals have different offspring, some animals can walk right after birth, our evolution works towards the brain, this requires long-term education, and if an evolutionarily human child is born completely helpless, it means that someone looked after him. people do not have fur. a small child could not cling to fur and give freedom to the mother's hands, this means the mother was very limited. this means that she sat with the child and fed him to the croupier while someone brought food

[feral river]

Depends if they have american citizenship

[prisma cipher]

It's obvious

[eager tendon]

Hi

[slender coral]

Fathers do and should take care of their children as well, it happens even in conservative societies.

[prisma cipher]

father brought food

It's not that easy to get food, you have to go, catch the animal, kill it, and drag it home, it's hard work

by the way this is one of the distinctive features of people, our children are helpless for a very long time, which means our ancestors had very complex behavior that ensured the survival of such babies

[eager tendon]

Hi

[hidden shore]

@feral river aren’t you got banned

[prisma cipher]

the comparison with an eagle has the right to life, but the eagle's nest is in a relatively safe place, it is the top of a tree or a cliff. in cases with a human ancestor, the mother is supposed to leave the child on the ground or in a nest on the ground and go hunting with her husband, the child will simply be eaten and evolution does not work

[hidden shore]

I wanna working hard

[manic juniper]

The eagle doesn't live in a community as humans do, and their nests aren't as safe as you think, predation happens all the times by other birds of prey

[hidden shore]

I wanna Delete discord forever

Never back

[prisma cipher]

I said relatively safe, I know there is sneakes who can yeat them

[manic juniper]

Not snakes

[prisma cipher]

Who care

[manic juniper]

Other birds kill them to reduce competition

A nest isn't safe at all unless someone is guarding it, usually the mother in birds of prey since she's larger

The safest nests are owl nests because they're found in tree cavities

[prisma cipher]

Cool

it's an evolutionary race, they make a nest out of reach of a predator, the predator evolves and reaches the nests high up, there may also be other mechanisms. but the fact is that the nest is up there, where it's hard to reach, for a reason.

[spice bobcat]

Daylight come and we wan go home

[brittle trellis]

hey guys, arriving now

what is the conversation topic?

[manic juniper]

Lol they are birds, all their main predators are just as capable of reaching it by air

It's because eagles are really big, they can't nest inside a cavity

[prisma cipher]

If there was no difference, birds would lay eggs on the ground. Actually, it is more difficult to build a nest at a height than on the ground. Even if you can fly.

the only difference is that on the ground there ar 100 kind ofpredators who will eat your eggs, and in the air there are 10

[brittle trellis]

I'm a biologist and I can tell you, being a bird is cool but it's a lot of work.

[brittle trellis]

why you say that is more difficult to build a nest at height?

[prisma cipher]

try building a tree house and find out

[brittle trellis]

i'm not a bird. They have addpatative tools for that

addaptative*

[prisma cipher]

you are confusing cause and effect. they have special tools because they have adapted to build nests at height, not like because they had special tools they began to build nests at height.

[manic juniper]

There are birds that do

Birds capable of flight

[brittle trellis]

of course. This is wat I can't discover the difficult of birds in building nests at high by trying to building a tree house

[feral river]

most birds are delicious

[thorny steeple]

Nore than dogs ??

[feral river]

their nest can be used to make drinks

[manic juniper]

Most tetrapods in general

[manic juniper]

Bro they shit there

[feral river]

their egg could be cooked well that provide proteins to human

[prisma cipher]

I'm wasting my time on nonsense, so these birds have a different survival mechanism.

[thorny steeple]

Wow what an information

[feral river]

the one that doesn't eat meat, the one shit does not stink

[prisma cipher]

maybe their coloring blends in with the grass and they are not visible or something else

They choose different way to survive

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_bird's_nest

[thorny steeple]

Do Chinese eat people

[feral river]

delicious as fuck

[manic juniper]

I'm wondering how that tastes now

[thorny steeple]

Not like dogs ??

[feral river]

that can be used to improve your skin condition

[prisma cipher]

Heard about that

[feral river]

females here love it

[thorny steeple]

Ignore me

[manic juniper]

How, is the saliva itself good for the skin?

[feral river]

I actually tried it once and it was actually not bad

[thorny steeple]

Chinese guy

[feral river]

it was based on Chinese medilogy

[thorny steeple]

Replied when is speak

[feral river]

Swiftlet nests have been used as a delicacy for over 400 years, most often as soup.[1] They are particularly prized in Chinese cuisine due to the rarity, high protein content and rich flavor, and are among the most expensive animal products consumed by humans,[2] with prices up to about $4,300 per pound ($9,500/kg) depending on grading.[3] The type or grading of a swiftlet nest depends on the bird species, as well as the shape and colour of the bird's nest. It is usually white in colour, but there also exists a red version that is sometimes called 'blood nest' (Chinese: 血燕; pinyin: Xuě Yàn). According to traditional Chinese medicine, it promotes good health, especially for the skin.[4]

[manic juniper]

Interesting

[thorny steeple]

I will not eat it

I don't care about China culture

[feral river]

the meaning of existence for these low class species was to serve the human better

hail humanity, the most superior species in the world

[hidden shore]

What is that

As a Chinese I don’t know this

[feral river]

This one

[hidden shore]

Thanks in the future i will buy some to my wife

[fresh flower]

Bro thinks we can read Chinese

[feral river]

Idk why it was Chinese cuz my phone language was english

[winter echo]

Who eats snake soup 🍲 here?

[thorny steeple]

No problem

[feral river]

we got that in southern provinces

they eat snake and drink snake soup

🇨🇳 TRUE LAND OF THE FREE

FREEDOM OF EATING

[thorny steeple]

I eat camel meat

Did you try it ?

[thorny steeple]

Did you do understand Arabic language?

[feral river]

I do understand some Hebrew language

[winter echo]

What does it taste like,
Is it delicious?

[thorny steeple]

Nice

But I asked about Arabic language

[thorny steeple]

Came here boy

[prisma cipher]

You not true, you need also eat it

[shell river]

Anyone wanna share uplifting ideas?

[turbid dome]

As someone who took Mandarin 1 in high school I also don’t know this

[livid charm]

👀

[buoyant vale]

What's up fellas, tell me your thoughts about the shallowness of people nowadays. I can't tell if it is just the way I see it, but lately I have noticed how harder creating new conections have become.

Its like living life as a plant with no roots

[spring swallow]

I also feel this way like its hard to get to know new people when most of the interaction is online and with social media we are prone to compare ourselves with other people with "perfect" lives who supposedly have a lot of friends.

[buoyant vale]

Yeah, for example, I started this year studing in a University and it is expected that in this environment it would be easier to know more people that could be open for a friendship for example, but for my surprise I just found a bunch of cold people, who don't even try to have a conversation

I mean, why it has become so hard to a social specie, like us humans to socialize?

There is an infinitude of subjects to talk about, from movies to philosophy. Each human being has an universe inside its head, so why would you hide it from the others?

[spring swallow]

I completely agree with what you are saying. At least for me it takes time to build a meaningful friendship and i think most people nowadays are so introvert that they fear they will be judged in a harmful way if they expose themselves too much. It's like a self defense mechanism but taken to the extreme.

[buoyant vale]

I consider myself something between an introvert and an extrovert, with a little spark of shyness, but I really miss the good friendship, miss any sort of depth in conversations. However I can't simply surrender to the lonelyness, and I think, in the same way as I do, people shouldn't stop trying to socialize. Because, we are heading to some bizarre kind of cold distopia and this really worries me

Anyway, It's soothing to me that you, @spring swallow , agree, because I really couldn't hold these inner toughts for any longer...

[spring swallow]

The only thing that we as regular people can to prevent that distopia from happening is trying to socialize more, but that is easier said than done, nowadays im trying to be more that way and talk more but still is hard to make strong bonds with new people.

[spring swallow]

Glad i could help you, i hope you can make new lifelong friendships soon

[buoyant vale]

Mainly because of this self defense mechanism as you said

[buoyant vale]

I wish you the same, Sr!

[spring swallow]

@buoyant vale are you brazilian?

[buoyant vale]

Yes, I am

What about you?

[spring swallow]

i'm also brazilian

[buoyant vale]

Wow, so would lonelyness be a overall brasilian problem?

[spring swallow]

I dont think so, in fact i believe it affects much more other countries since we brazilians are known for being very talktive

[buoyant vale]

Fr! If we are complaining about people's coldness, just imagine living in Germany💀

I gotta hit the hay, but thank you for the conversation, dude!
Tamo junto👊😎

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/C5287NtykkY?si=-OxoAD1_kysJJIi9

that happens when you deal with a leftist

[thorny steeple]

Aka welcome to American politics, one part of it

[turbid dome]

Yes that’s a totally real problem.

[spice bobcat]

John 11:35

[solemn frost]

John 11:35 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<35> Jesus wept.

BibleBot v12.1.0 by Kerygma Digital

[bleak gulch]

hi

[wispy cedar]

Sup

Y'all gotta make a research on Cossack vs Tatar battles man, used to be cool as heck

It is like slavs seeing the old ways are not working as expected,

So they place certain people from chłopi on the border with Tatars,

And they basically adapt to the Steppe & become the "nomads" with slavic origin

Then fight back against Tatars basically

[prisma cipher]

This is Russian pro Ukrainian dude, and his opinion about tattoos with swastika on Ukrainian soldiers from azov.

[slender coral]

Could you imagine subjecting a country to authoritarian coreupt rule for so long and then invading can radicalize many citizens?
It's easier I guess to say that Ukriane is just evil, not the imperial power that fucked it up for decades.

[prisma cipher]

They were like that all the way

Not everyone and not most of them.

Just a lot nazi

[slender coral]

I thought it started after the famine Stalin caused in Ukraine and the Nazi invasion.

[prisma cipher]

Ukrainian dude chilling in concentration camps.

Enjoy

Also I like reaction on those pics from his auditory, they like it.

[hidden shore]

Okay I will try

[stable edge]

yooo wassup

[radiant axle]

hello everyone im new here im looking fore a team for live stream anyone have same intereste can dm me

[tawny rock]

@buoyant vale hi LilLil

@hidden shore where are you from

@hidden shore Hello everyone! 👋
My name is Vaibhav, and I’m from India.
I’m learning spoken English and want to improve my speaking skills.
I’m excited to practice and make new friends here. 😊
Please feel free to talk with me!

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/greater-israel-israel-isrl-gif-6469076254673239749

[manic juniper]

Yes, but also Azov is just 1% of the entire armed forces

[slender coral]

Interessant

[manic juniper]

The size of the brigade grew quickly ever since the escalation of the invasion and many who had nothing to do with neo-nazism or hooliganism joined because they wanted to defend Ukraine

I don't understand how the "Ukraine is Nazi" argument works when:

1. Their president is a Jew
2. They don't have concentration camps (unlike Russia in Chechnya)
3. They are the European country with the most favourable views on Jews

lol

[lime cobalt]

The USA created global capitalism, but when other countries (like China) became more competitive, they retreated and turned inward to protect their domestic interests. Like losing in a game they created themselves.

Is national security really the reason behind banning TikTok?

[slender coral]

The word Nazi at this point rings hollow.

[formal pilot]

Classic Poland

[manic juniper]

Israel made some weird accusations on Poland

[slender coral]

I really hate how people see these economic concepts and stuff that are obviously nuanced and on a spectrum as a binary.
Americans are the most people who do this it seems, it's either you are overly capitalist or a commie, nothing in between.

[lime cobalt]

Yeah, I agree. But history shows that you had to pick a side , like during the Cold War, supporting the opposing ideology would be seen as a national security threat, even being a socialist could raise suspicion.

[manic juniper]

Yugoslavia and Finland didn't pick a side

[fresh flower]

Is everyone behaving

Or do I have to get involved

[lime cobalt]

I mean within American society.

[keen moon]

isn't it a made up thing based on russian propaganda to justify the war, triggering fear and emotion from WWII?

[dusty meteor]

is marriage neccessary as a man

[manic juniper]

Yes, they accused other countries of the same thing

[keen moon]

unfortunately, yes, to manipulate less informed people

[lime cobalt]

In practice, capitalism is not just merely an economic ideology but something more than that, considering that the United States has actively engaged in anti communist propaganda in various countries.

[dapper pier]

Stay away from turkey plzz

[dapper laurel]

Nobody cares about turkey, just third world scum

[dapper pier]

Wow

What a racism!

😁Little dog

[left junco]

Why is the chat never moderated

[dapper laurel]

Since when is telling the truth racist lol?

[dapper pier]

Yeah it should be moderated

[dapper laurel]

Isn't turkey just an underdeveloped wasteland?

[dapper pier]

Keep going kill children and babies and shut up

[dapper laurel]

Turkey has also been stained with blood, throughout its whole history lol. You won't lecture me

https://tenor.com/view/israel-israel-superhero-am-yisrael-chai-israeli-flag-gif-16069792012856888850

[dapper pier]

😂Okay

Good luck

[hybrid herald]

Don't use others to justify your actions.

[dapper laurel]

What actions? I didn't do anything lol

[hybrid herald]

When he talked about the Zionism state's crimes you justify by saying that turkey did the same thing as them

🤡

You can't justify yourself by what the others did .

[hybrid herald]

So true

[dapper laurel]

He simply cannot moralize knowing that his country too was violent and is still violent. War is simply war, and I'm just supporting my western ally

[hybrid herald]

The freedom land?

🦅🦅🇺🇸

😂

[dapper laurel]

Unfortunately not

[hybrid herald]

Ik you're from italy

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/israeli-flag-israel-am-yisrael-chai-lion-of-judah-gif-5945756779743519298

[tender vessel]

Isn't that the map of "greater Israel"?

[dapper laurel]

Yeah bro it's literally in my bio

[hybrid herald]

this lion was promised to them 3000 years ago

[dapper laurel]

1000000 years ago

[thorny steeple]

Are you a juice ?

[hybrid herald]

Are you making jokes about your ally

[dapper laurel]

No?

[hybrid herald]

Nah

[dapper laurel]

They probably will

And capitalism will transform it into an earthly paradise

[hybrid herald]

😂

[dapper laurel]

And Gazans will only have to thank the benevolent West

[hybrid herald]

Like they are communist right now

[thorny steeple]

I think it's your wet dreams bro

[hybrid herald]

They don't have

[dapper laurel]

Their economy is too regulated

[hybrid herald]

Because of this f state

[tender vessel]

Oh snap! What am I witnessing.

[dapper laurel]

I think your wet dream is the state of Palestine (spoiler: it doesn't exist)

[sweet forge]

free palestine

[thorny steeple]

Want me to show a pic ?

[molten osprey]

[dapper laurel]

A pic of the map of Israel?

[fresh flower]

Bro gave up on trying to sound smart and instead settled for shitposting

[hybrid herald]

My brothers have come

[fresh flower]

Good choice Andos

[hybrid herald]

So proud of them

[thorny steeple]

Their land

[tender vessel]

xD

[manic juniper]

That looks like a boat rather than Palestine

[dapper laurel]

Actually there is nothing to add, they will respond with the usual anti-Western propaganda

[hybrid herald]

That's a picture when the juice 🧃 come to Palestine

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/greater-israel-israel-isrl-gif-6469076254673239749

[hybrid herald]

In your dreams

[dapper laurel]

This is the only Israel I know

[thorny steeple]

The promise boat

[dapper laurel]

Dreams that are coming true

[thorny steeple]

Where was the map before 1947 ?

[hybrid herald]

Nah

[dapper laurel]

Brick by brick

[hybrid herald]

A dream is a dream

[manic juniper]

Aren't they removing bricks so far

[thorny steeple]

It was promised in 30000 years ago .

[dapper laurel]

Like terrorists winning over Israel?

[thorny steeple]

Guys ignore him

[dapper laurel]

Definitely not

[thorny steeple]

Just moving on

[fresh flower]

Takbir

[hybrid herald]

Like terrorists winning the whole state of Palestine

[thorny steeple]

You are right 👍

[manic juniper]

I don't agree with him but shitposting to anger Turkish nationalists is never wrong

[thorny steeple]

Allah akabr

[hybrid herald]

الله اكبر

[manic juniper]

[dapper laurel]

I actually think Israel can give them a better future

[near thunder]

yups yupss

[tender vessel]

Allah Akbar. ✊

[dapper pier]

To kill and send them paradise

[fresh flower]

I'm Paul Atreides fr

[hybrid herald]

They don't need it, let Zionism go and take the better future for them

[dapper laurel]

Not if they get their bullets dirty with pork fat

[thorny steeple]

Le the future

[dapper laurel]

Gay and still winning

https://tenor.com/view/flag-israel-flagofisrael-gif-4576875646535986647

[hybrid herald]

Brothers, let's move on

[dapper laurel]

The Israeli pill is too hard to swallow

I agree

[dapper pier]

Are you too selfish?Congratulations😁😁

[near thunder]

we dont wanna talk abt israel

[thorny steeple]

Are you also promised to them

[near thunder]

stop it rn

[tender vessel]

Lol. How many times have they made you take it? You seem to painfully have experience.

[dapper laurel]

Selfish? It's a compliment for me actually

[fresh flower]

We are not the same

[dapper laurel]

They will come anyway bro

[thorny steeple]

They will come with their promised boat

[dapper laurel]

Sweden is full of them, it's not just Israel's fault

[manic juniper]

It is

[fresh flower]

It is actually 💀

[manic juniper]

Not as many would flee if there were no wars, but yeah they'd still move

[fresh flower]

Oh no the mercury brained guy is here

[feral river]

HAIL TO THE PRIME MINISTER 🇮🇱 BENJAMIN NETANYAHU

Long Live the War on Terror 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 🇨🇳 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇫🇷

[near thunder]

thats not war, its genocide

[dapper laurel]

Isn't it also full of Syrians, Somalis, all sorts of other Africans and Asians? I don't think these migration routes are only attributable to Israel. If you convince me that it's their fault, then I will start supporting Palestine

[dapper pier]

Please don't give him attractions:))He feeds of it.

[thorny steeple]

You forgot 🇸🇦

[near thunder]

lets ignore him

[thorny steeple]

Put 🇸🇦

[hybrid herald]

Who did the war in somalia and africa

[near thunder]

pretend we not see his bubble

[thorny steeple]

I will

[dapper laurel]

Shield against terrorism

[hybrid herald]

The Zionism state and their sugar daddy

[manic juniper]

Yes, Syria was at war too, Somalia is in anarchy, North Africans are mostly in western and southern Europe (and yes those aren't at war or anything)

[dapper laurel]

(((them))) right?

[hybrid herald]

You don't know any politics

[tender vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[hybrid herald]

Zionism state and their sugar daddy

[manic juniper]

I don't think the West started the conflict between Western Sahara and Morocco

[dapper laurel]

So it's not Israel's fault, but rather the inability of third world countries to manage themselves

[feral river]

it's the only way we could eliminate terrorism over the region is to support Israel without any question 🇮🇱

[dapper pier]

He just want attraction.

[thorny steeple]

Okey I support usa

[versed edge]

I support whoever the media tells me to

[hybrid herald]

The west made them third world so

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[dapper laurel]

Good

[hybrid herald]

Ik

[thorny steeple]

Taiwan is country

[feral river]

look his beautiful confident face

[thorny steeple]

🇹🇼

[hybrid herald]

A Pig?

[feral river]

I'm gonna put his portrait in my home

[thorny steeple]

Ewwwwww

[thorny steeple]

Man stop lying at least

We don't want you support anything

Just stop laying

[manic juniper]

Israel was and still is involved with Syria, it's their fault too but many parties are involved there, not just them

Israel is responsible for Palestine for the most part

[dapper laurel]

No, it is not possible to blame others, everyone must take their own responsibilities in their own measure, it is not only the West's fault. Sub-Saharan Africa had not made significant progress before the arrival of the Europeans, and it was the African lords who sold lands and slaves to the Europeans in exchange for things of little value

[versed edge]

Wasn't his brother some Rockstar special forces agent cool guy

[near thunder]

what??? yuhhh, look like butcher

[manic juniper]

Bin Laden's?

Yes he looks like a punk guy

[hybrid herald]

So if i broke your leg you can't blame me and it is your fault

[versed edge]

Netenyahu

[near thunder]

freakyyy

[dapper laurel]

I think that Turkey and the United States have a significant role too, Israel is just a projection of US power

[dapper laurel]

Not the correct example

[manic juniper]

Ah idk

[hybrid herald]

The best example

So far

[dapper laurel]

It's like me asking you to break my leg to see what happens and then blaming you for breaking it. That's the best example

[hybrid herald]

No

[dapper laurel]

E diocan però

[feral river]

I swear I won't feel disgust if I'm gonna kiss him

one of the greatest man on earth

it's always a pleasure

[near thunder]

are you blind or what?

[versed edge]

This is pure memory.

[hybrid herald]

Africans didn't want the European countries to colonize them

[manic juniper]

Do you trust your memory

[dapper laurel]

It was mostly an unconscious phenomenon on the part of the illiterate African lords

[versed edge]

I don't trust myself

[hybrid herald]

Nah

[manic juniper]

Does that make you a Skepticist?

[versed edge]

Makes me an idiot

[hybrid herald]

Did Libyans want you to colonize their country

[feral river]

I don't see that among white african communities

btw some are not colonization

[manic juniper]

Man

[dapper laurel]

They were colonized by the Turks before, so you should ask them first

[hybrid herald]

All of them are colonization

[hybrid herald]

The turks were acceptable to them

But italy no

[dapper laurel]

E cristoddio, la madonna e tutti i santi però

[hybrid herald]

Speak in english

[feral river]

in some places like South Africa they created the cape colony yes but they didn't implement very much like a colonization project but more like the emperial expansion

imperial expansion does not equals to colonization

[dapper laurel]

It's always colonization, now you want to tell me that there are better colonizations and worse colonizations?

[hybrid herald]

Who did the apartheid?

[hybrid herald]

Ottomans were like a muslim empire

So they accept it

[feral river]

themselves obviously lmaoo

[dapper laurel]

Italy built roads, schools, and hospitals. It's true, we killed many of them in concentration camps

[hybrid herald]

Nah

[feral river]

British left for a very while

and they still had apartheid

[hybrid herald]

They've killed inocents

[feral river]

and their own issues

[uncut tiger]

bros ragebaiting smoothly

[hybrid herald]

They made it

[uncut tiger]

minecraft when it comes to netanyahu

[dapper laurel]

It's just coping to keep them united, the center of power was in Türkiye and for the ethnic Turks, Libya was just a periphery of the empire exploited for oil wells

[feral river]

I got a jewish name that was after Netanyahu

[hybrid herald]

No

Italy destroy lybia

Even when they built roads

Like the lybians can't do it

[thorny steeple]

Hmmmm

I think he is jew

[feral river]

technically I'm also a Jew I could believe in Judaism

[dapper laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jawazi_massacre It's just an example

[feral river]

I identify myself as a Jew and it could be recognized

[dapper laurel]

But, yes, let's blame Italian cuz they're yt colonizers

[thorny steeple]

Go ahead

[dapper laurel]

Italians aren't even yt

[feral river]

bro literally forgot where did they got independent from

British helped Arabs go independence against Ottoman empire

[thorny steeple]

What is wrong with that

[dapper laurel]

It may be true, but after Libya it came under our control

[thorny steeple]

You can be citizen in iseral

[feral river]

not bad but you lost Tunisia to French

[dapper laurel]

True

[hybrid herald]

Civilians suspected of collaborating with the Senussi were executed. Refugees from the fighting were bombed and shelled by Italian aircraft. In 1930, in northern Cyrenaica, 20,000 Bedouins were deported and their lands given to Italian settlers.

[dapper laurel]

That was a strategic asset

[dapper laurel]

So they were both bloody governors, I didn't deny that

[thorny steeple]

because i want own you

[hybrid herald]

Italy kill those

[feral river]

idk if Italy does have colonization project but French they got New France in Canada laterly captured by british then they got their new france empire in africa but not very sucessful

actually only Britain did colonization and imperial expansion very successful

[dapper laurel]

We locked the Libyans in concentration camps and the Germans took inspiration from us for their camps, I don't want to deny this

[feral river]

they did colonize India, Egypt, most of Africa and did expand to Australia, New Zealand etc.

[hybrid herald]

80k when they try to stop the revolution

[hybrid herald]

They have killed inocents

[dapper laurel]

Italy didn't even exist when America was colonized

[hybrid herald]

Have you searched about it

[feral river]

the only one point that does make a difference between imperial expansion and colonization was whether they did treat their own people onto the land as citizen of the empire

[dapper laurel]

Turks too

[hybrid herald]

Not that much

[dapper laurel]

Yes and I didn't deny that you dumbshit

[feral river]

for example if you conquered a place where's full of people that is not British and might defy your rule, you did colonize them use them to benefit your business

[thorny steeple]

Just stop

[feral river]

but if you conquered an new almost empty land, you send people to this place and this become your territory

[thorny steeple]

Yapping

[hybrid herald]

You can't deny that you killed innocents

[thorny steeple]

How turn down this device

[dapper laurel]

Well, yes, I can't deny that

[hybrid herald]

War criminals supporting war criminals

[feral river]

well the only great failure they made is imposed too much taxes on their American colony which is majority white and does not have a great will to go independence, but they caused them to be like that

[thorny steeple]

Be quiet

[feral river]

actually even much of the western coast was called New England

they do treat this land as their own state

[thorny steeple]

Who cares

[hybrid herald]

Are you from china!

[thorny steeple]

Don't talk to him

He is yapping all day

Let him rest

[hybrid herald]

I think it is she

[thorny steeple]

Who cares

[hybrid herald]

I do

[thorny steeple]

just don't talk to this person

[hybrid herald]

Thanks God

@dapper laurel left

[thorny steeple]

I blocked him

[hybrid herald]

Or get banned

[hybrid herald]

I reported him

[dapper laurel]

Back

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England

[thorny steeple]

I will blocked this one

[dapper laurel]

Just for supporting Palestine?

(Israel)

[feral river]

oh see can you see, by the dawn's early light

[hybrid herald]

To spam

[dapper laurel]

Spam what?

[thorny steeple]

Nice i feel good now

[dapper laurel]

I'm not even spamming

[hybrid herald]

Mind your language

[dapper laurel]

Whatever makes you sleep

[dapper laurel]

Sorry bout that

[hybrid herald]

👍🏽

[hidden shore]

We should send our people to mars and the land becomes us

We gain more resources and almost unlimited resources

[hidden shore]

We are rich and sell out

[feral river]

exactly all europeans

their own people

[thorny steeple]

I will block you if you talk like them

[dapper laurel]

But why should he even care?

[hidden shore]

Who

[thorny steeple]

You

[hidden shore]

I talk like them like who

[dapper laurel]

Me and Minecraft

[hidden shore]

For example like ALASKA

[dapper laurel]

Guys, I have to admit, Israel paid me to support them

[hidden shore]

I guess no one would like to live in ALASKA

[feral river]

me too

[dapper laurel]

[feral river]

they actually pay dividends back to me

and this proud country

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[thorny steeple]

Who much they paid?

[hybrid herald]

Are you even from china

[hybrid herald]

Yes

[dapper laurel]

2000$

[hybrid herald]

We want a job and easy money

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[hidden shore]

ALASKA has no resources , the land has harsh climate, it makes more difficult to live

[thorny steeple]

They paid to much

[dapper laurel]

Even more if we spam Israeli flag

[thorny steeple]

Is that really?

[dapper laurel]

Literally one of the richest regions in oil and gas

[thorny steeple]

Or you just kidding

[dapper laurel]

Guess

[hidden shore]

😹

[thorny steeple]

What you mean guess

[hybrid herald]

خمن

[hidden shore]

raw materials yes America needs that

[dapper laurel]

Btw Alaska isn't that bad

I would go and live there, but I don't want to be an immigrant

[thorny steeple]

Man are you talking seriously?

[dapper laurel]

Always, always

[thorny steeple]

Is they paid for you

[dapper laurel]

Yes, now I'm rich. They also gave me a three-story villa in Jerusalem

[hidden shore]

Me too

[feral river]

ofc I ate dogs

[hybrid herald]

😋

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-5972314891354809109

[thorny steeple]

Can you proof it

[cedar bay]

Dogs are rather inefficient as they are a predator.

[dapper laurel]

Should I give you money?

How much do you want brother? Israel pays me so much, I can give you something

[thorny steeple]

No just capture the conversation

I don't want money

I am in rich country

[hidden shore]

Freedom of eating, dogs , cats, tigers, whales, camels, bats,beer, horses, lions, elephants, monkeys,

[thorny steeple]

No

[thorny steeple]

I guess you're lair

[dapper laurel]

No way

Really?

[thorny steeple]

Return block

Lol

[cedar bay]

How deep does the English rabbit hole go? In terms of hours.

[versed edge]

Alaska is just better Greenland

[feral river]

AL is definitely better to GL

and that can't be compared with PC (State of Panama Canal)

[thorny steeple]

I can't see what he said

[broken idol]

hi

[hybrid herald]

Hello

[prisma cipher]

Eat insects

[near blaze]

Everyone eats insects

[thorny steeple]

So now let's speak about the war of most of countries on Egypt

[lean aspen]

Have not hear that there is a war on Egypt

[shy summit]

Please do not advocate for the annexation of sovereign territories here as this is in indeed a ToS issue.

[slender coral]

There's no war in Egypt.

[slender coral]

What the hell are you talking about?

[lean aspen]

Are u Egyptian???? Ya sit

[hybrid herald]

Everybody knows that there's no war in egypt

[teal crystal]

Looking for a good business mindset person, to share ideas pm

[slender coral]

I'm Egyptian

[feral river]

np

[lavish dome]

huh

[sharp creek]

??for real

i dont eat insects

[manic juniper]

They end in your food

If you eat bread there are insects and hair in it, mostly from rats

[sharp creek]

does it really count

[manic juniper]

Only they are in extremely small quantities so it's impossible to notice

I'd say no, people don't really know how insects taste like

[sharp creek]

hahahaha have you tried before even once

eat a big one

[manic juniper]

Yes I ate a locust

[sharp creek]

????

[manic juniper]

They are a bit insipid but with the right seasoning are delicious I guess, it has potential

[sharp creek]

its edible?

[manic juniper]

Most insects are

But orthopterans (crickets and grasshoppers) especially so

[uncut tiger]

Did you feel gross eating it

[sharp creek]

[uncut tiger]

I'm gonna puke 🤮

[manic juniper]

They are the cows of the insects so quite safe to eat

[sharp creek]

i m afraid of evert insects

[manic juniper]

No, the exoskeleton was removed, all limbs and the head were removed

It didn't look like a locust

[manic juniper]

What about cows, they are more dangerous

But they don't look dangerous on the plate 🍽️

[uncut tiger]

But you KNEW it was a locust

[manic juniper]

I didn't

It was a wedding in a foreign country

[sharp creek]

cow? the big mammal one

[uncut tiger]

Oh

[manic juniper]

Yes

[sharp creek]

it doesnt look scary!!

[sharp creek]

what does it mean

[hidden shore]

Damn

I have tried before in Cambodia

In Cambodia eating bugs are very common tho

[hidden shore]

Well based

[celest comet]

eating bugs also common in china

some provinces

[thorny steeple]

They should stop eating bugs

[formal pilot]

Why?? Bugs are nutritious

[shy summit]

Hey bud, this is an academic enviro, can I ask you to delete this? We don’t allow advertisements in this server.

[thorny steeple]

Do you eat bugs also

[sharp creek]

guys you use discord on pc or app

Is the app more prevalent than the PC

[sharp creek]

"common"

[near blaze]

You do!!

[near blaze]

Make sure to chew it really well then or it's gonna skin your throat

[thorny steeple]

Good I don't know how ppl can eat them ew

[fossil flume]

welcome

[formal pilot]

Haven't tried it yet

[manic juniper]

This one didn't have legs attached

[shell lily]

What's wrong with bugs
you eat all sorta animals and seafood

🧌

[thorny steeple]

Go to China You can try everything there

[manic juniper]

More people eat them in Thailand than in China

[shell lily]

freedom at its peak

the freedom the west missed

[thorny steeple]

The West also has the freakiest thing over there

[shell lily]

Like what

[olive herald]

heyyy hru

[manic juniper]

Doing normal, wbu

[thorny steeple]

Like internet things

[olive herald]

b ad

[thorny steeple]

Why don't you go other chat ?

[manic juniper]

What happened

[manic juniper]

Which one

[olive herald]

hw

[thorny steeple]

Chill beginner

[manic juniper]

Those suck

[manic juniper]

Is it maths or something else

[olive herald]

smth eles

emath is fun

[manic juniper]

Who is nessah

[thorny steeple]

Nah ppl are just using their freedom over there

[manic juniper]

?

[olive herald]

neesaah?

[thorny steeple]

Freedom of speech

[olive herald]

@crisp garden she

why u asking?

[manic juniper]

Yeah we have that here as well

[manic juniper]

I thought you were referring to Messi

[thorny steeple]

But ppl use their senses before talking here

[olive herald]

LMAOSJHAJSOA

[manic juniper]

@feral river is this true about Mao?

[shell lily]

deep web is freaky everywhere

[thorny steeple]

Deep web even most of the popular hubs are from there like of yk more than me

[shell lily]

same goes to the east

just the west is more developed so they have more freaky shi

[near blaze]

We eat seabugs but not landbugs

[feral river]

nah

he hold some negative views to traditional Chinese culture but he never promote to dismantle anything especially historical sites

and cultural revolution is more regarding to political struggle between officials

simply to explain it was an attempt to restore Mao's dominance over the party again after the great leap forward which is the reason he was forcibly resigned

[spice bobcat]

mao

[graceful halo]

what is mao

[feral river]

Mao's vision was quite unique to other communist scholars as expected he's the first person who proposed the article of emphasize the class nature of farmers are more closer to proletariants

and ofc he face very much opposition both inside of the party and other communist scholars around the world

that's his opinion since CCP was formed and after he took over the country he still hold different idea even with most of other CCP officials, great leap forward was his first attempt and he failed it

cultural revolution was another case which he use his popularity among the people to try to overthrow the current administration

it's more like a coup

[spice bobcat]

Lmao without l

[graceful halo]

thanks

[feral river]

the founder of the People's Republic of China

Mao Zedong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

[thorny steeple]

Who is the present chairman now ?

[feral river]

Xi Jinping

[prisma cipher]

Interesting

[gray sparrow]

Looking for a filipino who can assist my work.
I will pay.

[hidden shore]

That’s yummy

[hidden shore]

Please chew it don’t swallow it

[near blaze]

You sound experienced

[prisma cipher]

Or swallow it without chewing

Because to gross

[hidden shore]

Don’t swallow it, it feels nothing

[prisma cipher]

So you pro at bugs eating, I never try it, I don't want tbh. I'm not that curious

[near blaze]

Frogs are the tastiest bugs

[hidden shore]

Bugs are yummy ngl

Like snacks

You better try in Thailand

It’s really great

[thorny steeple]

Really

Chinese will eats human if there a chance

[hidden shore]

Humans eat humans when we are face famine

Not in china thank you

[near blaze]

Human meat is godly

[thorny steeple]

I agree

[coral belfry]

already happened in a famine

[thorny steeple]

But Chinese is more eating anything move

[thorny steeple]

Some people will do

[thorny steeple]

Even bat or any animals

[coral belfry]

fat people were special targets

[thorny steeple]

Lol

Muslims are not allowed to eat carnivorous animals

Like cats and dogs

[manic juniper]

Chickens are carnivorous too

[thorny steeple]

They eat plants

[manic juniper]

They don't

They eat seeds and other animals

[near blaze]

Chickens are omnivores

[thorny steeple]

What they eat then

[near blaze]

Worms and seeds

[manic juniper]

From insects to rats or larger

Depends on the chicken and if it's used to hunting

[coral belfry]

different category

[thorny steeple]

Anyway we don't eat cats and dogs

[manic juniper]

?

https://youtu.be/Mwy4X4F3mB4

[near blaze]

Chickens are not carnivorous

[coral belfry]

they are omnivorous

[manic juniper]

Omnivorous includes eating meat

[near blaze]

Still not the same as carnivorous

[manic juniper]

I know what an omnivore is, it's not the same as omnivorous

Omnivore is the noun, carnivorous is the adjective

[near blaze]

What?

Chickens are not carnivorous or carnivores

[manic juniper]

They are carnivorous, just not carnivores

No one said they are carnivores

[near blaze]

They are not carnivorous

[manic juniper]

I guess that video I just sent is fake then

[near blaze]

They cannot thrive on meat alone

[manic juniper]

They can, they are simply generalists and opportunists

[near blaze]

Eats meat doesn't mean carnivorous

Eats only meat means carnivorous

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/carnivorous

[manic juniper]

No, that's hypercarnivore or obligatory carnivore

[near blaze]

That's just a play on english grammar

In the grand scheme of things chickens won't survive eating only meat

[manic juniper]

Chickens are domestic animals, they can survive eating meat only

Just not junglefowls because those are wild animals

[thorny steeple]

What is your major

[manic juniper]

Evolutionary biology

Junglefowls are so much better than chickens, they aren't limited

[near blaze]

There are nutrients they won't find in meat

And will probably die of malnutrition or something

Since they're not obligatory carnivores

[manic juniper]

I don't doubt that but I don't know of an instance where giving them only meat leads to health issues, unless you have any experience

[thorny steeple]

Answer:

Chickens can eat meat (like insects, small animals, or leftover meat), but they cannot live on meat only.
They need grains, seeds, and plants for a healthy diet. Meat gives protein, but plants give vitamins and fiber

Chatgpt

Answered

[near blaze]

Giving them only meat will certainly create health issues

[manic juniper]

An healthy diet is just an ideal, they will live less but they can reach adulthood just fine

[manic juniper]

Such as? Metabolic bone disease?

[near blaze]

Kidney damage

More protein than they're made for handling

[near blaze]

If you feed it only meat since young, it probably wont

[manic juniper]

I can't find anything on it

I don't doubt that it's less than ideal but there is literally nothing on it

[coral belfry]

this conversation is wrong because in the first place
what is haram "are Carnivores that uses its frags to eat meat
or uses its claw to catch its prey"
chickens use their beaks to catch preys so
what @thorny steeple said was wrong

[manic juniper]

Chickens use claws to catch their preys as well

Lol

[coral belfry]

show me

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

Those are legs

[manic juniper]

I need to unmod my YouTube

Since this video was turned into a Short

[thorny steeple]

Yes he is right

[manic juniper]

It was a video of a chicken killing a rat using its legs, they simply killed it with claws

[thorny steeple]

I don't deep on details

[thorny steeple]

It is called legs

[manic juniper]

Chickens don't use their beak as primary weapon, their heads are small and so is the beak, if they need to kill something big they will first use their claws until they are made defenceless

[near blaze]

It's using it's beak here

[coral belfry]

killed not caught

[manic juniper]

I don't think the second thing is a problem, many of them have Salmonella already and it does nothing

Can you link these

[near blaze]

Link what?

[manic juniper]

Yeah I didn't say it used the claws there

[manic juniper]

There is a link symbol there

[near blaze]

Do you have info on how chickens can thrive on meat alone?

[manic juniper]

I need to read the whole thing

[manic juniper]

If there is nothing against it I don't see why not

They can likely reach adulthood off it alone, their lifespan is short

[near blaze]

Wdym nothing against it?

Did you even research your claims before making them

This is not a game of "if there's no outwardly argumentative opinions against it, it must be right"

[manic juniper]

I didn't claim they are the absolute truth anywhere, quite the opposite

[near blaze]

Chickens are not obligatory carnivores and will live a very short life if fed only meat, even for their short lifespan

Obviously it's not poison so it's not gonna kill them right away

[manic juniper]

If they reach adulthood then it's not that bad at all

[manic juniper]

Anyway I found it for you, but it doesn't allow me to paste it

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119381106/pdf?md5=da61dff87f7b6fdf89c0c7bc0b63c7e9&pid=1-s2.0-S0032579119381106-main.pdf

Check if you can view this without permissions

[manic juniper]

I asked for links lol

[tardy mauve]

Un mute your night mare

Vegans

[near blaze]

What about it?

I'm not gonna read the whole thing so just give me a snippet

[manic juniper]

I'm reading it

[manic juniper]

Then why are you even arguing

[coral belfry]

i read it
its about high protein diets
NOT meat-only diets

[near blaze]

^

[manic juniper]

The first photo's point was about high-protein diets, not meat

I can't find anything on chickens eating meat

[manic juniper]

I hope this will be recorded, it'll be quite fun to have all three parties

[feral river]

im hungry now cuz you guys talking about chickens

[turbid dome]

AI just compiles information without verifying accuracy. Post the original source instead.

Also, AI can very often be wrong and often only spits out what you ask for. It’s trained to give you what you want. That’s why if I was to ask AI about a quote “from tropic to poles” written in a letter between Thomas Jefferson and Albert Gallatin, it will uncritically give me a quote that isn’t real. If I was to “expand on it” it will tell me it’s not real and fold in on itself. It’s not a reliable way of looking through any kind of data, scientific, historical, or otherwise

[feral river]

that's just because today's AI still wasn't advanced as human

human brain still have very significant advantage over today's computer chips

we do actually have more complexity over the computer chips but our processing speed was low as fuck, and our memory system was built up by neuro links and they do forgot stuff to maintain brain activity stability

that wasn't hard to understand our system was built up on these cells, they do process things, storing memory do as what a computer would do, and even the strcuture was very computer-like

[tender vessel]

That's correct. AI is useful, but one must learn how to use it and when to use it.

[feral river]

anyway now we can't make AI to just replace human to live on this planet but we can still use them to increase productivity or as weapons to fight against the enemies

you know how great performance Israelis have that was part of the AI's credit

automatically select target in a flow of information consisting of politics, expense, influence, death rate, everything

they could finally have a rest with their duty that was given to AI to select target and eliminate their enemies automatically

like a hack in a game

[clear salmon]

that's also why it is so important for AI to be open-source or at least keep being accesible to everyone. if it is only of free use to corporations and politicians, we would be cooked

[manic juniper]

Isn't it interesting how parrots too can hunt and eat meat in rare occasions

[fresh flower]

No

[turbid dome]

This is definitely what the whale was doing

[thorny steeple]

Who is immam husein?

[thorny steeple]

What a stupidity

[ionic pivot]

😂 🔫

[thorny steeple]

I’m looking to vc debate anyone that takes atheists can’t have objective morality

[thorny steeple]

Earth is flat 🥸🫴🍷 you can't debunk it

[thorny steeple]

Join a vc and debate me

[thorny steeple]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1148704027979304980

Don’t run

[lusty zenith]

omg rare Trixie appearance

[tepid solstice]

ought to

what's objective morality

[thorny steeple]

Very rare appearance

[slender coral]

What the hell is happening to the server

[thorny steeple]

It happens once in awhile so don't worry too much

[tepid solstice]

Hello

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/inactive-handsome-filipe-crime-scene-death-outline-outline-dead-body-gif-20334899

Dead #🧠｜serious-chat eeeeee

[turbid dome]

Fun

[thorny steeple]

Hallelujah

[turbid dome]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

Martin how's it going

Anything good these days?

[turbid dome]

Uhh not particularly, going quite bad ig

How about you

[thorny steeple]

Well as it goes a new day is a new beginning!

[turbid dome]

Yup

Hopefully better, probably couldn’t get worse

[thorny steeple]

It's going monotonously mundane and shouldn't had overslept ngl

[thorny steeple]

Yeah it always gets better next day y'know

[turbid dome]

Oh fun, yeah I slept most of the day

[turbid dome]

Yup

[thorny steeple]

Same the most I've slept is 16hrs nowadays it's within the 10hrs standard

[turbid dome]

Oh wow idk how you sleep so much, I sleep maybe 8 hours

[thorny steeple]

That's the great range, who knows lmao

[turbid dome]

Yeah ig

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[livid jolt]

Hello Cakebakebloke🇺🇸
How are you? ❤️

[livid jolt]

Hello Kebab 🥙
How are you? 😊

[thorny steeple]

I'm great thank u

[livid jolt]

😊 ❤️

[rigid robin]

you can not shot yourself with water gun duude

[stable edge]

yoo wassup

[uncut tiger]

What species would you choose to be if not human?

I would like to be a whale

or a polar bear

[feral river]

Depends on which level it should maintain open-source if it’s civilian use that’s totally fine

[uncut tiger]

@feral river

[slender coral]

Why does the channel disappear for me when I open it and then close it?

[feral river]

because the God want to trick you

for God I mean Kim Jong Un

[livid jolt]

Hello Minecraft_652 (China mainland)
I love your profile picture ❤️

[feral river]

thanks

[dapper laurel]

🇮🇱♥️🇰🇵

[feral river]

#IsraelFirst

🇮🇱