🧠｜serious-chat

[manic juniper]

Isn't Allah conjugated or considered masculine in grammar, does Arabic even have neuter nouns or articles. I guess not

Better, it's weekend and I completed a difficult game, what about you

[olive herald]

YYEY LETS GOO GIRLLL

[austere bolt]

Allah is used with 'huwa' or quot هو which means 'he'

[manic juniper]

Oh I recalled something like that, do you speak Arabic?

[tender vessel]

In Arabic grammar (نحو) there are only three letters used to feminize a word: ة or الألف المقصورة or الألف الممدودة. There is no ت.

For ة: the word معلم becomes معلمة.
For الألف المقصورة: the word اكبر becomes كبرى.
For الألف الممدودة: the word احمر becomes حمراء.

You can't apply any of these rules on the word الله.

[austere bolt]

taa marbuta is just a varient of taa

[manic juniper]

Isn't this just modern Arabic

Those deities were worshipped much longer ago than the 7th century even, since most of Arabia already was monotheistic by then

[tender vessel]

Yes, the pronoun "هو" in Arabic is used for both masculine and non-gendered subjects.

In Qur'an the word "هو" used when referring to Allah as it implies strength, since males are physically stronger than females in general.

[austere bolt]

I can see that

[tender vessel]

No. Those specific parts of the Arabic grammar are ancient.

[manic juniper]

The explanation make it seem like it follows the same rule and logic as the word "sister" for example

There is also another word that is the feminine form of god "إلاهة" isn't it

[tender vessel]

The word "إلاهة" may be a feminization of the word "إله" not the word الله.

[manic juniper]

Yes I know, that word is still god

[tender vessel]

I'm referring to Allah specifically.

[manic juniper]

Isn't that just a contraction

[austere bolt]

Isn't that word ilahah which islam rejects and deems created dieties

it literally does mean goddess tho

[tender vessel]

Nope. They are different words.

[manic juniper]

Idk I don't speak Arabic, but seems like there are different ways of creating a feminine form

That reminds me of the way you feminise in Finnish, despite Finnish lacking genders in its entirety

[tender vessel]

The word "إله" means worshipped. While "الله" refers to the creator of everything, he is also worshipped so you may refer to him as "إله" as well, not as a name, though.

[manic juniper]

You can use tär and tar similarly to how tytär means daughter

Seems like they did the same with the suffix of sister

[austere bolt]

There are but islam forbids genderization of god by Surah ah shura
لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ ۖ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ

[tender vessel]

Correct.

[sage token]

There is a difference, though. You wouldn't for example say "معلمت". It's grammatically incorrect.

[austere bolt]

Sure, but still taa marbuta is a variant of taa in origin and shape. It behaves like taa in the sense of being silent when pause or a t sound in idāfa

[tender vessel]

You're right, but nobody argues that. Taa is an umbrella, there two variations, Taa Maftuha and Taa Marbuta. You can't use Taa Maftuha to feminize a noun.
Taa Maftuha is used in verbs and similar places. e.g., كتب (a masculine verb) becomes كتبت.

[austere bolt]

Yeah

I'm just learning

Arabic, so I'm not a native

[tender vessel]

Oh, I see. You're pretty good actually. I thought you're a native.

[royal apex]

🥲

[formal pilot]

I disagree

[nova apex]

Hey guys

[uncut tiger]

Unity is strength bish.

[versed edge]

All things break under a strong hammer.

[turbid dome]

But excessive force can destroy the hammer, especially against something strong like a diamond

[uncut tiger]

why did he get muted

aboo ul bakaar

[uncut tiger]

this is how trump would say it lol

[oblique dawn]

هل ستفجر الكروب😆😆

[thorny steeple]

hi. kinda off topic but does anyone here recommend getting the iOS 26 public beta? or has anyone here ever tried it? i mean it looks cool and i lowkey wanna download it on my iphone but i fear it would be hella buggy. i just couldn’t wait any longer for its release asking for some tech advice hehe thanks

[high raven]

I wouldn't recommend it, a friend of mine has it and the battery drains much faster, with the software being laggy now and then, I always wait until the public release to update

[thorny steeple]

will keep this in mind! thank you

[tight swallow]

.

[royal apex]

guys\

how do I level up?

[thorny steeple]

Yo

[past tangle]

I downloaded it and i can tell you don’t update to beta its not lagly now but its have problems like when i enter settings and go to phone information he go out 2.sometimes the phone closes the app descord and other bugs

[native mango]

I might

[smoky pagoda]

Who agrees superman is gay

[lusty zenith]

this is the realest thing I've ever read in my life

[uncut tiger]

How ironic

[tender vessel]

You're right on this part. I confused things, sorry. The default pronoun for things in Arabic is "هو" and it's easier to use than the feminine pronoun which adds more letters, that's why it's used according Arabic scholars.

Correct.

[mortal depot]

No .superman is hope

[smoky pagoda]

For gay people ye

Batman is cool superman is gay

[manic juniper]

Batman is cucked

Am I seeing right

Wtf how did this happen

Many will seethe

[dense agate]

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[tender vessel]

LMFAO. xD

[dense agate]

I know you missed him, so here he is

[manic juniper]

We will help you, once you will be good enough at it you'll be ready to guide us

[tender vessel]

Those idiots! I knew they buried him in Creative mode. If you wanna do something right, do it yourself. xD

[smoky pagoda]

No shush

[high raven]

1 message hidden from likely spammer.

Welcome back

[uncut tiger]

Did my advice bring you back Minecraft @feral river

Youre back cuz the ban appeal got accepted

Isn't that the case

[formal pilot]

Look who's back

[uncut tiger]

Minecraft be like:

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-infowars-chew-jew-jewish-gif-12295419607760287413

[tender vessel]

No, it isn't. He is trying so hard to hide his identity, because once banned if the mods hear you're back with another account, you're banned again.

[smoky pagoda]

Discord hates me what can I do

[smoky pagoda]

Why did he got ban for the first time reason?

[slender coral]

@smoky pagoda The app is labelling your message as spam bro.

[smoky pagoda]

I know that

Idk why discord hates me

[odd cedar]

[native mango]

[lime cobalt]

Supreme leader is back

[uncut tiger]

damn Israel is a pretty advanced country in terms of this

nah man but theyre ahead of the world in terms of education

you need math to build that AI

what doesnt help

[formal pilot]

In which grade calculus is introduced in your country?

[uncut tiger]

not everybody studies STEM

the ones who do study advanced math

[uncut tiger]

12

its the same as india right

yea finance

every rich guy needs a finance guy

[formal pilot]

No, I had basics in 10th grade and intermediate level in 11 and 12
After 12 you apply for graduation

[uncut tiger]

so calculus is in 10th grade?

are you lying

thats impossible

in america they dont even start calculus till u reach university

[formal pilot]

It's basic, just a few formulas n shi

@thorny steeple you'd give us better insights

[uncut tiger]

if you start calc early you wont become an expert in algebra and stuff

[formal pilot]

That's why education is good ova there

[uncut tiger]

so you wont be able to excel in calc

[uncut tiger]

yes

[thorny steeple]

Calculus? Nah wasn't there in 10th
Trigonometry was
Not calculus

[uncut tiger]

what about calculus

its in grade 12th right

education is a good thing minecraft

[thorny steeple]

11th in ICSE

[formal pilot]

I'm sure I studied it in class 10

[uncut tiger]

indian kids also do calculus in physics right

[formal pilot]

It might be coaching

[uncut tiger]

its not like that here

[thorny steeple]

Cause u did 10th in 500 BC

[thorny steeple]

Yup

[formal pilot]

Lemme give you syllabus for maths 11th standard

[formal pilot]

2016 💀

Or 15

[thorny steeple]

I was 8 yo in March 2016

[uncut tiger]

damn you old as fuck chigga

[uncut tiger]

I was born in 2016

[formal pilot]

You can leave enough, it's enough of age shaming

Have a good day

🥻

[thorny steeple]

I think they do but it's optative

[thorny steeple]

LMAO

[uncut tiger]

lol thats funny af

[thorny steeple]

Please stop cooking Dia

[uncut tiger]

check this one

[formal pilot]

It was my Oc btw

[thorny steeple]

Bill is lowering the chat iq to room temp

[uncut tiger]

lmao

youre funny

[formal pilot]

In Kelvin scale, right?

[thorny steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/854225426833211442.gif?size=48

[uncut tiger]

🤜 🤛

[thorny steeple]

U wish

[uncut tiger]

comeback

[formal pilot]

@uncut tiger this is for 11th standard

[uncut tiger]

good i would rate that 7/10

[uncut tiger]

yes yes very good

study hard

im gladd we dont have the JEE shit here

[formal pilot]

I miss kukumbr

He's banned

[uncut tiger]

the guy who hated pakistan

[manic juniper]

The good ending

[uncut tiger]

i remember him throwing an ad hom canon at isfrun

also me when he found out i was pakee

[formal pilot]

Sometimes cucumber is required for it

[thorny steeple]

ANYWAYS BILLLL DO UK ABOUT OPARIN HALDANE THEORY

[thorny steeple]

Please don't say ts again

[formal pilot]

Stop screaming
What's Oparin haldane theory

[formal pilot]

He was the reincarnation of lord lmknot

[thorny steeple]

Abiogenic theory or theory of bio chemical origin
The modern version

[manic juniper]

Just an avatar

Or an aspect with 1/1000 of its power

[formal pilot]

Stop lying, Allah created everything

[thorny steeple]

Yes

Facts

[uncut tiger]

are you atheist @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

So Miller and Urey did an experiment in 1952 successfully synthesizing amino acids and some complex organic compounds in artificially created primitive atmospheric conditions

[thorny steeple]

Agnostic atheist

[uncut tiger]

would you consider yourself a nerd btw @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

Fuck this people

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

this is just for a survey

[thorny steeple]

Allah is god

[thorny steeple]

Chill out Stalin

[uncut tiger]

very well

[thorny steeple]

The only god

[thorny steeple]

I am muslim not call me stalin

[thorny steeple]

Okay Mosad

Just call me abd bder

[formal pilot]

Well well well

[thorny steeple]

AYYYYYYY

[formal pilot]

It's in 11 standard syllabus

[uncut tiger]

yall doing the nerd talk i aint understanding anything

[thorny steeple]

Yh so Miller theory is a proof of OPARIN haldance theory

[uncut tiger]

is this about evolutionn

[thorny steeple]

Who create you

[thorny steeple]

No bish
It's in 12th

[formal pilot]

I was a good student, trust me
Scored 79/80

[thorny steeple]

Evolution is bull shit

Not funny

[thorny steeple]

That's good unc

[uncut tiger]

can you define work for me in physics

just checking your education level

[thorny steeple]

Also do uk about the Sydney M Fix experiment?

[thorny steeple]

Wtv Allah guides u to do

[thorny steeple]

I don't need education to know my god

Allah is the only god

[thorny steeple]

Modi would love u

[uncut tiger]

if you were not born a muslim would you still end up as a muslim

???

[thorny steeple]

Make arab great again

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[lime cobalt]

But it hasn’t yet reached the stage of cell formation. There’s another more intriguing theory called panspermia.

[formal pilot]

What is it?

[thorny steeple]

WOAH I'll look into it

In your dreams

[uncut tiger]

what if you were born as @feral river 's son

[manic juniper]

Isn't that MIGA

[thorny steeple]

Allah akabr

[uncut tiger]

would u still end up as muslim

[thorny steeple]

Ewww

[manic juniper]

Miga sounds like a Lithuanian name

[thorny steeple]

This is disgusting

[uncut tiger]

nah lets just suppose for a moment

[coral belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738494330062504027/1399439253573992610/ezgif-187a160cf2f34a.gif

[formal pilot]

It sounds racist

[thorny steeple]

I will put him in place your older people live

[thorny steeple]

She experimentally heated 18 amino acids up to their melting point (160-200°C) and then cooled em .On cooling, the amino acids linked together to form long chains of polypeptide ,called Proteinoids

[manic juniper]

Baltic languages have strange things such as kitchen nazis

[thorny steeple]

Allah akabr

[formal pilot]

Kitchen nazis?

[thorny steeple]

HI ISFRUN
Long time

[manic juniper]

Yes (it means knife in Latvian)

[uncut tiger]

💣

[thorny steeple]

We see it

[thorny steeple]

Why that

[manic juniper]

Helou

[thorny steeple]

I don't blow something

[thorny steeple]

I'm ungabunga if you don't know

[manic juniper]

Now I know 🧾

[thorny steeple]

I don't like booming things

[thorny steeple]

Hehe

[manic juniper]

What happened to the username

And why do you have fancy roles

[thorny steeple]

Allah akabr

[manic juniper]

Did you do career

[thorny steeple]

Allah is the greatest

[thorny steeple]

😭

[thorny steeple]

Something bad happened so here i am

[thorny steeple]

No I'm still in high school

Not funny

Stop doing that and go eat some ants

[austere bolt]

Minecraft do you think your a little clown playing at being funny

[formal pilot]

Basically malnourished protein, For a long time, I saw experiments that created organic matter from non-organic substances as the most compelling explanation for the origin of life. But lately, I’ve grown more skeptical. The idea that life's building blocks may have arrived from outer space now feels more plausible to me

[manic juniper]

No I meant in the server but I'm glad you didn't irl (growing up sucks)

[thorny steeple]

Make arab great again

Make Islam great again

[thorny steeple]

Are you spending time in the flat earth vc?

[austere bolt]

Israel is fine, it doesnt need you

[thorny steeple]

Guys

[thorny steeple]

Ah yh agreed
Growing up does suck

Guys

Guys

[formal pilot]

Lmao that's hilarious

[austere bolt]

Are you seriously ignoring the fact that China supports Palestine

[thorny steeple]

I think he is not Chinese he is iseral

[austere bolt]

Whyre you acting like an idiot

[thorny steeple]

He is not Chinese

He is iseral citizen

[austere bolt]

I think youre having delusional attacks because Palestine exists.
Unlike democracy and free will in china

[thorny steeple]

I provide you are Chinese

[austere bolt]

CCP says so too so

[thorny steeple]

?

[formal pilot]

No but we've found organic substances in other space, and it's not only simple things, we have also found COMs (complex organic molecules)

[austere bolt]

i dont know why you dont agree to Xi Jin Ping

[thorny steeple]

He is not Chinese

He is iseral citizen

[thorny steeple]

DAMNNN
This seems interesting

[bitter badger]

minecraft_652 was banned.

[thorny steeple]

💀💀

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

OMG a historic moment

[austere bolt]

I LOVE YOU MODSSSSS

[formal pilot]

I'm atheist but alhamdulillah

[austere bolt]

Im atheist but mashallah

[thorny steeple]

G

I've seen this guy shitting for a yr now

[magic olive]

LoL

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[rocky coyote]

what's going on here now

[thorny steeple]

CRAZYY

[austere bolt]

God bless Chimki

[thorny steeple]

Allah is the greatest

[rocky coyote]

son is this a wumao fighting with a zionist

[thorny steeple]

@covert quiver may u grow 16 more abs and u become a dinosaur

Allah akabr

[formal pilot]

Well he's a test to my commitment to free speech

[austere bolt]

may minecraft grow some balls and its due a tumour

[thorny steeple]

Check dms

[uncut tiger]

what the fuck just happened

i went to do a shit

[austere bolt]

Zionist gone

[magic olive]

Something that should have happened ages before

Anyways

[uncut tiger]

what was he doing tho

[austere bolt]

he said Palestine doesn't exist

and maybe something else maybe idk

[uncut tiger]

he got five server mutes and two bans in the same month

and in the same freaking server

he broke my record

my record is 4 bans in one month

[thorny steeple]

It's was historically moment

[manic juniper]

Is it against the rules

[formal pilot]

Nice, can you make one more for me?

[austere bolt]

It's not. But I'm sure being hostile is

I dont know the guy enough to comment but from all I've read, all he does is ragebait and be hostile

[whole beacon]

Wat diid i miss

[thorny steeple]

It's was historically moment

[austere bolt]

A ban

[whole beacon]

Oh mine

[austere bolt]

Minecraft is no more (in the server)

[thorny steeple]

Missing a lot

[whole beacon]

This is his 5th ban ig.
No return

[austere bolt]

really??????

[formal pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852805796789354496/1082346515349110825/852752895610847322.gif

[austere bolt]

WHAT THE HELL? what did he do for so many bans

[whole beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleepy-sleepy-eyes-so-sleepy-good-night-gif-16664401258023829878

Yes

[formal pilot]

4 is the limit, thanks for revealing the secret

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852805796789354496/1082346515349110825/852752895610847322.gif

[formal pilot]

I've 3 left

[austere bolt]

ive 4

[manic juniper]

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[formal pilot]

Looser, you can't be a revolutionary

[thorny steeple]

Who cares

[austere bolt]

ive never been banned before idk 😭🙏 i say so much but people dont ban me

bless their hearts

[manic juniper]

You aren't overextending yourself

[austere bolt]

iss *loser btw

[uncut tiger]

is it that easy to get unbanned?

[austere bolt]

not a certified hater yet 🔥

[uncut tiger]

you can get unbanned THREE times??

[austere bolt]

4

[austere bolt]

cause this was the 5th ban

[formal pilot]

"It's"

[thorny steeple]

Because he doesn't respect allah

[austere bolt]

thats my accent you racist

[thorny steeple]

Got a ban

[formal pilot]

What does it mean?

[austere bolt]

😂🙏

[austere bolt]

thats delusions

[uncut tiger]

now whos ragebaiting

[thorny steeple]

do you want banned ?

[uncut tiger]

bish

[austere bolt]

no.

[uncut tiger]

@obsidian canopy bro ban @austere bolt

he a baiter

[austere bolt]

but someone cant get banned for having different religious views 😂🙏

[uncut tiger]

[thorny steeple]

Nice

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but respect islam is important

[austere bolt]

i am atheist, i dont even believe in any god's existance

[formal pilot]

We're in the serious chat, avoid personal attacks

[austere bolt]

i don't respect something i don't acknowledge

[manic juniper]

How, you can't deny that reptiles are real

[uncut tiger]

then there is no place for you here

[austere bolt]

you should respect my philosophy

there's no place here for you either

[austere bolt]

😂🙏

[thorny steeple]

Atheist is something you acknowledged

[uncut tiger]

i dont insult atheists nor their philosophy

[austere bolt]

that wasnt personal at all

that was just the pinaccle of stupidity

i cant stand by that

[austere bolt]

ive never insulted islam but the imposition of it

sure your allowed to believe your concept of a god banned someone

or played a role in banning someone

but that's your belief

dont impose it on me

[thorny steeple]

I hope allah guide you

[austere bolt]

I hope Jesus guides you

anyways

[lime cobalt]

Lol

[manic juniper]

Indeed, and his three daughters too

[uncut tiger]

do atheists think theyre smarter than believers?

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[whole beacon]

[manic juniper]

Usually no unless they are Laestadians

[uncut tiger]

nah its js a question

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[austere bolt]

no

[formal pilot]

No, I see no difference in atheists and believers

[manic juniper]

Welcome to atheism

[whole beacon]

Can i get some?

[thorny steeple]

Atheist is stupid

[austere bolt]

We poke fun at weak believers who can't pray their way to salvation so they try to convert anything and everything

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[uncut tiger]

also is atheism a religion

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

whatchyu guys think

[formal pilot]

I consider stupidity as a personal trait (most of the time)

[whole beacon]

911

[austere bolt]

without a "cult leader"

supposed "God" that we're supposed to be oh so scared of

[high raven]

Of course

[uncut tiger]

what abt neil de grasse tyson

isnt he ur pope

[high raven]

Are you guys talking about atheists

[austere bolt]

😂🙏 now your just trolling

[uncut tiger]

r u one

[whole beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[uncut tiger]

am not

[thorny steeple]

The best is to know who is the real god

[high raven]

No

[formal pilot]

No one wants to engage in a discussion, they're just throwing perspectives

[austere bolt]

i refuse to believe something that stupid exists

[high raven]

We should turn them all to monkeys

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gossip-listening-suspense-drama-gif-18062083597614221595

[austere bolt]

much less is alive and breathing

[thorny steeple]

Allah is the real and true god

[uncut tiger]

your loss then ig

[austere bolt]

im happy to miss out 😂

[formal pilot]

Yes, they're working during shabbat

[coral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-meme-face-chips-cat-eating-gif-15310179217102583800

[thorny steeple]

And he is only one not two or three

[formal pilot]

La abadu ma tabadun

[austere bolt]

jesus is the true god

Fight now

[formal pilot]

Jesus is king

[austere bolt]

He is everything

[eager geyser]

jesus is arsenal fan

[uncut tiger]

do you guys ever hear a weird ass opinion and be like: I wanna spank this mf

[austere bolt]

Allah is a Valorant fan 😂🙏

[raven forge]

So you're here

[formal pilot]

Let's not reveal old identities 💀

[austere bolt]

Anyways, religious and moral superiority is a thing. And I find it funny.
How people that believe that there's a they say I quote true god but go on to insult, belittle and act like little protectors of <insert respective holy book>.
Is your 'God' that weak he needs you to fight people for him.

[lime cobalt]

May Lucifer guide you.

[austere bolt]

what are you, youre too little to be Lord's bouncer 😭🙏

[raven forge]

Okay

[spice bobcat]

Hallelujah mazel tov

What is happening

[spice bobcat]

Darwin bless you

[spice bobcat]

Can you spank me? No reason

[main cove]

heyy guysss, let’s be friends on letterboxd!! 💞💞 @leveloso

[uncut tiger]

present your ass

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-cute-peaceful-gif-12376734

There you go

[austere bolt]

yess

Lele

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/keira-knightley-michael-fassbender-punishment-time-spanking-spank-gif-22503315

[lime cobalt]

Lucifer = Light-bearer

[uncut tiger]

here you go amigo

[spice bobcat]

Oy vey

[uncut tiger]

you like that chigga?

[spice bobcat]

I always find it intriguing, these religious debates between atheists and thiests. Why is the burden of proof always put on the theists?

[thorny steeple]

even if you are an atheist or from a diff religion, you should know better than to provoke other people's religious beliefs. people like to depend on religion for peace, why dont u let them be and keep your valuable opinions to yourself? it just shows your moral values and how you were brought up in life.

[formal pilot]

I'm feeling bad for serious chat, Diaz is turning it into #🔗｜bot-commands

[spice bobcat]

No I just wanted to check how down bad you are duhh

[formal pilot]

I completely agree

[uncut tiger]

BoP should be on atheists

we humans have been believing in god throughout history

[austere bolt]

You should read again.

It's only people that as I said

belittle, insult and hate people
out of their religion

I dont know which religion endorses that

[thorny steeple]

whats bop

[formal pilot]

Bangladesh occupied pakistan

[thorny steeple]

oh alr

[thorny steeple]

bangladesh mentioned🗣️🗣️🗣️

but what

[austere bolt]

Because

there's too many religions 😂🙏

[uncut tiger]

yes exactly

[manic juniper]

History is recent, what about prehistory

[uncut tiger]

writing wasnt invented back then so i dont consider it

[manic juniper]

Those with human sacrifices are the most reliable, who would risk so much and cause so much pain if they weren't motivated enough

[austere bolt]

And of course if you go on to say "there's eh a concept" and just expect people to accept it without any proof, then nobody's going to trust you

(the serious answer)

[manic juniper]

Strange to ignore the longest time period of our existence

[formal pilot]

I've seen a Muslim guy on insta reel saying fossils of dinosaurs were planted by shaitan to weaken our imaan

[austere bolt]

You need a proof for your concept and not personal anecdotal incidences

[manic juniper]

Why Salafis believe in dinosaurs but not Wahhabis

[thorny steeple]

hell nah

[formal pilot]

Lemme ask my mum, brb

[austere bolt]

That's just mass hysteria and cavemanism

[uncut tiger]

we dont even know abt it so whats the point

every info abt it are just guesses

[manic juniper]

It's not that different from history

[austere bolt]

we're humans with curiosity. we're not animals

[manic juniper]

Most of history isn't written either

[spice bobcat]

What a beautiful fallacious point. atheism itself is a "religion" because it has a belief of sort, and there are types of it as well. I was asking why do atheists always seem to put burden of proof to thiests, and not themselves. If you must deny, you must provide the proof of denial (not just I don't believe it) which is epistemologically valid ig, but not objectively because the other perspective does the same thing. Otherwise it's just a one-sided perspective.

[uncut tiger]

enough has been written to confirm that God/religion is a very old concept among humans

[austere bolt]

First of all, that was a joke.
I've already given my actual POV so I'll neglect your piece

[spice bobcat]

Well that's what their books are for. The existence of God as an entity itself tho, that well would be wrong to prove from a book of a certain religion. That's why we have agnosticism.

It's not oh there is a concept

[thorny steeple]

very kul one sided debate

[manic juniper]

Religion had a different meaning in the past, the term itself comes from Latin and it used to refer to a variety of local traditions

[spice bobcat]

It's, I don't believe in your concept and here's my proof not just I don't believe it

[uncut tiger]

what about the concept of God

that surely is very old, innit

[manic juniper]

That changed as well

If it was the same can you explain me why some scholars think Zoroastrianism was henotheistic and others think it was strictly monotheistic

[thorny steeple]

the concept of god has always been present among people lil bro

[manic juniper]

Sure, let's ignore animism lol

How do you translate "Kami" into English?

I'm curious

[thorny steeple]

whats kami

[manic juniper]

Exactly, that can't be answered

[spice bobcat]

Kami samaaa arigatouuu

That song

[thorny steeple]

lmfao💀

[thorny steeple]

what is kami bruh

[manic juniper]

It's a Japanese term that refers to a group of supernatural beings or concepts, some of them considered gods

Others certainly aren't

Yet they are all called Kami without much distinction

[lime cobalt]

Kamisama

[thorny steeple]

oh i see

[uncut tiger]

so you agree that god has been with humans since olden times

[spice bobcat]

Ofc, people surely would believe there's a higher entity in olden times

[thorny steeple]

im sure you're gonna be hit with "humans created the belief of god" soon enough

[spice bobcat]

Well didn't we

[lime cobalt]

Yess, the idea not the entity

[thorny steeple]

idk

[uncut tiger]

yes exactly

[spice bobcat]

The idea of God as a being was created by us 🙂

[austere bolt]

yeah sure, BUT you miss the point where religious texts are meant for believers. in a broader debate they dont count as objective proof. thats why if someone claims something like "god exists" they’re the ones expected to provide evidence, because they’re the ones making the positive claim

thats not rocket science, idk why its hard to get

for some people

[thorny steeple]

yeah otherwise we cant really explain why enerything exists in the first place

[uncut tiger]

everyone believes in god and you brought up the notion of atheism so you should be the one to prove it

[austere bolt]

and that's how cults start innit, a man writing a book making himself a God and people snowballing into it

[manic juniper]

Kami doesn't mean god lol

[turbid dome]

Not everyone believes in god, why is an unproven thing treated as the status quo.

[thorny steeple]

are you talking about the bible

[spice bobcat]

Sure, that's true but my argument is when atheists say they don't believe it, what proof do they actually carry. I'm agnostic myself not hard for me to understand. The notion as diaz said was brought by you, so you should have some proof of debate instead of just saying something utterly subjective (i don't believe it) and something objective. That's the only question I want answers to, not that it's expected, because I can expect proof from you too

[austere bolt]

"Everyone believes in God"

Yeah sure, Jesus, Jehovah, Allah, Shiv, Buddhan dieties.

Pick your poison first.

[uncut tiger]

whatever god it is vro you just have to disprove its existence

[spice bobcat]

Exactly

[uncut tiger]

regardless of whichever one youre talking abt

[manic juniper]

Can you dispose the existence of the other gods

[thorny steeple]

why dont u prove they dont exist

bro can only say "god doesnt exist"

[manic juniper]

Most phenomena occur more than once, I don't see why multiple gods can't be real

[spice bobcat]

Subjectively yes, objectively idt you can do that.

[austere bolt]

if a child was to be isolated from society, would it believe in god

[uncut tiger]

yes

[thorny steeple]

yes

[austere bolt]

well I don't 😂

[manic juniper]

Are you the Indian girl who grew up with the wolves or something

[austere bolt]

sure, lets say that

[thorny steeple]

it'd want something to depend on and eventually question why everything exists and come to the point that god exists because the world cant be created on its own.

[spice bobcat]

Real life Tarzan

[thorny steeple]

lmao

[austere bolt]

well then wouldnt it disprove the notion of god being an objective concept

[manic juniper]

I don't think you would, wolves can't teach you that

[austere bolt]

if you were to take me

as an example

[manic juniper]

Even if they believed (but why)

[austere bolt]

thts brilliant

[spice bobcat]

Wolves believe in their alpha

Worship the alpha

[manic juniper]

I don't recall who said this but "if dolphin had a god it would look like a dolphin"

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-gif-26562640

[austere bolt]

why did the creator not make knowing about him biological

if hes all knowinh

[manic juniper]

Just as we make our gods act like humans, I guess there are gods for all living beings

[spice bobcat]

Religious debates are so useless

[austere bolt]

😂 sure start a new religion, "religion for alphas"

[spice bobcat]

That's why I asked the question first

[thorny steeple]

fr

[manic juniper]

Yeah I think it's ineffective, if I was her I would write it in the stars themselves so everyone can read about it

[uncut tiger]

but allah doesnt look like humans

[turbid dome]

Worships Andrew Tate 💀

[austere bolt]

yes, why doesnt he do that

[spice bobcat]

The manosphere yearns for you

[manic juniper]

Doesn't he have multiple right hands

[uncut tiger]

no

[thorny steeple]

no wtf

[austere bolt]

They would 😂

[spice bobcat]

Metaphorically

Not literally

[manic juniper]

Metaphorically he still has human features

[turbid dome]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/c/ce/God-100.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20170916225235

South Park was right about how god looks

[thorny steeple]

no he doesnt

[manic juniper]

The dolphins' god would have multiple right fins

[thorny steeple]

good for em

[manic juniper]

Metaphorically

[uncut tiger]

yes to make ppl understand

[austere bolt]

well if I were to start about Islam, id offend a lot of people

[uncut tiger]

thats why metaphors are used

[spice bobcat]

Scholars term it an innovation to think about how they are. Metaphorically they are attributed as his power.

[manic juniper]

Yes that's how it works for dolphins as well

[high raven]

Go ahead

[turbid dome]

Go ahead idc

[austere bolt]

same with christianity or hinduism or judaism

[thorny steeple]

do it

[lime cobalt]

God lives only in the realm of thought beyond it, He perishes. -joka

[manic juniper]

The dolphin god swims around his underwater throne
Metaphorically

[austere bolt]

YES.

[spice bobcat]

Being scared of sharing an opinion because of people

[high raven]

Did he just quote himself

[spice bobcat]

Don't do that bruh

[turbid dome]

I don’t think that’s a joka original but true

[turbid dome]

Yes, according to martini, joka quoted himself

[spice bobcat]

He must love himself

[manic juniper]

Go back 252 million years ago, look out of the window to find out about god's appearance

[turbid dome]

The window in South Africa?

[manic juniper]

You can start there, it's not far from Erythrosuchus

[tender vessel]

Where is the Chinese guy?

Oh... man. Is he banned again? It didn't take long. Lol.

[high raven]

Most likely asleep

It's midnight over there

[tender vessel]

Already?

Okay.

[uncut tiger]

nah dude he got banned again

[austere bolt]

If God is all empathetic, why did his prophet marry a child? Why do hadiths approve slavery, sex slavery, stoning for adultery and death for apostasy?

sorry for the delay, i got a call

[lime cobalt]

Considering the sun as a god makes more sense, given a certain definition as the sustainer of life.

[high raven]

Oh, I had no idea, I thought I saw him back earlier today

[tender vessel]

Too bad. He may create another account and attempts to join again. I don't know.

[high raven]

I'm not a Muslim, would you still like for me to answer?

[austere bolt]

go ahead

[tender vessel]

Bruh. She is not even a Muslim.

[austere bolt]

im not here to be an islamophobe i just want your perspective

[tender vessel]

Plus, Allah in Islam is not all-empathetic, no.

[uncut tiger]

well he got unbanned for an hour or two ig. then the mods banned him again

[austere bolt]

quran says he is arraheem (the most merciful and gracious)

[spice bobcat]

He's also al mateen.

[tender vessel]

@austere bolt
You may also ask Muslims in #1367799103354044446.

[turbid dome]

Before he got banned

[austere bolt]

no, I'm scared of them

id rather not

[tender vessel]

Why is that?

[past tangle]

Hi

Sup guys

[lime cobalt]

Lol why ?

[high raven]

It's simple, those things were part of how the world worked back then, not what we’d see as empathy today. A lot of Muslims see them as history, not as something to follow now, and try to focus on the bigger message of mercy and justice, kind of like how people used to think it was normal for kings to rule by “divine right,” but today we believe in human rights and democracy instead, or how public execution were every day things but how we have a justice system today. You'll find texts like that across all religions, because they're historical and reflect the time and culture they came from

[high raven]

Seems pointless

[tender vessel]

"....My mercy encompasses all things." So I will decree it [especially] for those who fear Me and give zakāh and those who believe in Our verses"
[Qur'an 7:156]

[past tangle]

Aaaa why people talk about realegons

[austere bolt]

okay but isn't allah all knowing?

[tender vessel]

He didn't. It was another account with the same exact profile.

[austere bolt]

Why did he allow such things to happen knowing the things we know today. the horrors of child marriage and let's be honest, slavery was never okay

[turbid dome]

So since god is all powerful is he inconsistent in his beliefs or is he unbothered by what happens

[spice bobcat]

He is, but he is also the just, the firm, the merciful. Questioning attributes wouldn't help you in any way

[austere bolt]

is allah just another person who follows

isn't he supposed to lead

[spice bobcat]

Here comes the, "the lord works in mysterious ways"

[austere bolt]

the Lord worked in ways that had women as sex slaves and concubines
and men as slaves 🙏

[lime cobalt]

who are the best followers and will go to heaven: beginners, moderates, or extremists? Be honest.

[austere bolt]

he allowed it

[past tangle]

Yeah am out until this conversation end

[uncut tiger]

really? how did you find that out?

[spice bobcat]

Those were the times, it doesn't happen now. If the lord had taken autonomy and free will and worked his own way. Your existence would contradict itself.

[tender vessel]

Different username.

[uncut tiger]

do you hate him?

he hates everyone who is friends with you ig

[austere bolt]

didn't god start the world?

So couldn't he avoid it?

[manic juniper]

? He was in my friend list, there is no way it was a different account

[austere bolt]

he didn't live in a timeline he allegedly started it 🙏

AND IF THE LORD ALLOWS IT
then as per religion, shouldn't lord's will still be respected

[river nimbus]

i have a genuine question, why do men cheat even when they already have the finest and wifey material woman?

[lusty zenith]

maybe she is not as finest and wifey material as she thinks she is

[uncut tiger]

its nature

[uncut tiger]

they would still cheat tho

if she really was

[lime cobalt]

Of course, extremists will be valued more by God

[tender vessel]

I don't wanna answer that question. Lol.

[turbid dome]

Isfruns troll face perfectly answers the question

They’re weird trolls

[high raven]

Are you talking about God in general or religion still? If it's the latter, I get what you mean, but many believe God didn’t allow those things to happen, those were just part of how people acted back then. The idea is that He gave guidance to help move away from those things, there are rules and laws across all scriptures that discuss the things you mentioned

[tender vessel]

That's good news! ✨

[austere bolt]

not you acting like lord was bound to let this happen when he WROTE everything in al lawh al mahmuz

[river nimbus]

nono like, picture a woman that is actually decent and loving and getting cheated on over a one time fun gal

[spice bobcat]

This a brick wall argument. He could've avoided it but he didn't, if you don't wanna exist just say that. Otherwise this just doesn't make sense. You're trying to make sense of a thing that's supposed to be incomprehensible

[river nimbus]

yea but i wanna know what's in their mind

[uncut tiger]

why does she have to get mad over "one time fun" incidents

[lusty zenith]

I was just kidding. Maybe Dia answered it perfectly

[river nimbus]

hdusvsjsbs yea lmao

[austere bolt]

the thing is i don't exist because of a god. if the god created me, my existence would not be scientifically explained (much like his)

[uncut tiger]

well sometimes you want big cleavage the other time you want bigger behind

[river nimbus]

wdym i mean like literal cheating okay

[turbid dome]

Your answer is one time fun

[uncut tiger]

its all because of sex

[river nimbus]

i wanna know why

does sex matters that much?

[manic juniper]

Because monkey brain and humans are weakly monogamous

[river nimbus]

if it does then alright, then i have my answer already

[uncut tiger]

for men yeah, they are lustful filthy animals

[turbid dome]

Diaz 😭

[lusty zenith]

I agree

[uncut tiger]

what? Im js saying whats true

[turbid dome]

The way you said this is so funny

[spice bobcat]

Jen

[river nimbus]

this will sound crazy to tell u that she's actually flat no offense tho

[river nimbus]

sh, it was a genuine question

[uncut tiger]

well then dont complain over the one fun time incidents

[turbid dome]

Based on experience 💀

[tender vessel]

Women also cheat sometimes. Why do they do that? Even if they have the finest and most loving material man. xD

[austere bolt]

he started everything and wrote about it in a book correct me if im wrong (al lawh al mahfuz)

Also God's dearest messenger who is Muhammad PBUH approved of those things.

my point being things didn't JUST HAPPEN

[river nimbus]

makes so much more sense

[manic juniper]

She was asking about men

[uncut tiger]

if the man is doing his job well (sex,food,bills,housing) then theres no point for the woman to cheat

[river nimbus]

it's not an incident if it's intentional tho

[lusty zenith]

are you sure

[uncut tiger]

but men want all sorts of experiences so they are complled to cheat

[tender vessel]

Yes.

[uncut tiger]

i dont think so women would like different Dingos if one dingo is doing the job

[turbid dome]

I just want the experience of not being cheated on smh

[uncut tiger]

but it isnt the same for men

[unkempt moon]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-meme-are-you-sure-invincible-invincible-meme-gif-3458590649681429349

[river nimbus]

bro don't ask me that, im asking for the cheater's mind, not the loyal people's mind

[uncut tiger]

if she cheats on you u js have to get richer and earn more money

[river nimbus]

regardless of gender

[uncut tiger]

she will come back immediately

[turbid dome]

I was in high school when that happened 😭

[spice bobcat]

If you talk about that, there are some things that don't explain the existence of the world. You're thinking narrowly, that's why it seems explainable. You do exist because of a higher being, may it be a god or not. Otherwise it's like a heap of the abyss, with you just screaming why and no answers coming back, causing frustration.

[tender vessel]

Are you betraying the boys?

[uncut tiger]

that is not a valid question, cheating is inevitable when it comes to men

[uncut tiger]

real men cheat

thats why the arabs marry four

[lusty zenith]

have you ever cheaten

[spice bobcat]

We found the alpha worshipper

TIE HIM UP

[uncut tiger]

i told u today abt one such incident

[austere bolt]

Sure but thats just a POV

[lusty zenith]

that wasn't cheating lol

that was emotional manipulation

you're not a real man. Sit down boy

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[river nimbus]

u are not making any sense, don't justify cheating. i wanna know their perspectives, i don't want u to cheer for them and defend them.

[uncut tiger]

cheating is less evil so u think i havent have done that?

[river nimbus]

that's why i said it was a genuine question smh

[uncut tiger]

i told u the perspective

[spice bobcat]

There you go, finally. My first question. Why argue bout POV when they are completely subjective. And no objective proof is given by both (technically) it's useless

[turbid dome]

Is Diaz a pro cheater?

[austere bolt]

FINALLY.

[lusty zenith]

he's an amateur cheater

[river nimbus]

u're not just telling the perspective, you're justifying and normalizing it.

[austere bolt]

so God is a subjective concept

[uncut tiger]

basically i am advocating for more than one girlfriends for men

[spice bobcat]

Limerence and infatuation
Lack of commitment

[uncut tiger]

well you just absorb the perspective part and be happy

i gave u a valid answer

[spice bobcat]

literally what I wanted to say, hence the burden of proof question

[uncut tiger]

its real as much as reality

[river nimbus]

welp

[high raven]

Sure, but are you blaming God for what people chose to do with their own free will? Religion brought reforms that improved many awful practices that were common back then, if you can find something that prophet Muhammad approved of, that weren't a step up from how things used to be, I'd love to see it

[tender vessel]

Wait... This conversation sounds oddly familiar. Have there been any conversation about cheating men started by a question from a girl here before?

[river nimbus]

u seem like u know it sm, are u perhaps one? this is a fr question

[austere bolt]

so god bends his will according to the timeline and people?

[spice bobcat]

Jen making sense of feelings of someone else will do you no good. Ik you want closure. This is not the way 🫂

[spice bobcat]

He gave us autonomy, and judges us accordingly.

So it's us to be blamed.

[austere bolt]

Was prophet Muhammad judged for marrying a child

[turbid dome]

Judged negatively*

[spice bobcat]

In their time, it was acceptable. Why are you disproving something that happened a hundred+ years ago with the moral values of today

[river nimbus]

i know and i'm not just saying this because i've recently experienced it, but i wanna know in general on how a person would cheat even when they already have someone who's worthy marrying

[spice bobcat]

Use their morals then I'll ask you

[turbid dome]

Well if you were to believe in god then the morality would come from god and should be consistent, right?

[austere bolt]

So god's values bend according to timeline?

[spice bobcat]

Morality is relative

[lusty zenith]

you never gonna get an answer that will satisfy you lol

[spice bobcat]

He gave us Autonomy and will

We can think

[high raven]

Yes, many believe God’s guidance adapts to where people are, helping them grow step by step, things were worse back then than what you see being approved of in the scriptures, they were reforms to cruel practices

[turbid dome]

But what standards does he judge by

That seems most relevant

[austere bolt]

if marrying a child was ok in the all knowing's eyes then why isn't it now?

[spice bobcat]

Our choices. That would be the most common answer

[manic juniper]

Many times they don't want to marry and they just want to have fun with new experiences or different people

[austere bolt]

the standard is whatever modern trend going on apparently 🙏

[uncut tiger]

yea they just want the seggs

not the child neither the bills

[river nimbus]

i'll always expect that cause cheating will never be justifiable but just part of me still wanna know why even only 5%

[uncut tiger]

i wish you were a man for one day

you wouldve understood how hard it is

[lusty zenith]

you already did but you're still not accepting it lol

[uncut tiger]

to stick to one gal

[manic juniper]

There is always a reason behind cheating but it's a dogshit one most of the times

[turbid dome]

So how was the choice of marrying a child judged?

[lime cobalt]

Is it possible that an identity crisis leads someone to cheat?

[turbid dome]

That’s the question

[turbid dome]

Yes actually

[river nimbus]

well i see, actually if um idk if this is true but he plans to marry that girl

[languid oar]

Fun yea
And less attachment

[spice bobcat]

By the people who lived in the era, not by us. It was acceptable so it was good. Our choices

[high raven]

So we shouldn't progress as people and recognise right from wrong?

[turbid dome]

No, by god, not the people around him.

[spice bobcat]

Because it's apparently the dopamine rush is fun

[river nimbus]

bro then don't get a woman. there's a lot of strippers there to have fun with. why cheat on a woman who's actually serious about love?

[uncut tiger]

okay 👍

[austere bolt]

if we're progressing and rejecting hadiths, why not do it all together?

[spice bobcat]

I cannot look through god's perspective, that would contradict his existence. He's a Higher being not me

[manic juniper]

Then he will do it again

[turbid dome]

Yup

[turbid dome]

Well that was the whole point.

[austere bolt]

if progressing is moving away from Mohammad's words

[spice bobcat]

We're not rejecting Hadith sister, some hadith are narrations of history not to be followed

[river nimbus]

ofc cause i still got betrayed at the end of the day and it will definitely have an effect of me for the rest of my life, not by the person, but the cheating

[austere bolt]

why not?

[random crescent]

Whats the topic

[spice bobcat]

Because they're narrations of history and not to be followed?

[river nimbus]

okay yea

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s understandable and hard to fully trust anyone ever again in my experience

[lusty zenith]

just pick a better person next time or something

[river nimbus]

💀 u have a point tho yea

[manic juniper]

Learn to recognise all the patterns and suspicious actions so it doesn't repeat itself in the future with another person and you can tell in advance

[lusty zenith]

or I dunno, stay single forever. That's not so bad either

[uncut tiger]

what about kids

[river nimbus]

i do bet on this too lol

[lusty zenith]

don't care about them

don't even like them

[turbid dome]

And then you learn enough and eventually realize that almost everyone displays these patterns

[uncut tiger]

you dont care about expanding your lineage?

[turbid dome]

And hate everyone 😭

[uncut tiger]

real.

[lusty zenith]

not really

[austere bolt]

but isnt prophet supposed to be an ideal muslim and man

[river nimbus]

yea exactly like even when u moved on from the person, the fear of getting cheated on will still haunt u

[random crescent]

Yes

[spice bobcat]

Jen, the only way you can counter this is, be vigilant and keep yourself exclusive till you actually gauge someone to be of your standard. Love is not something you go into fully prepared, and disappointments happen. Blind faith is the only way

[uncut tiger]

youre gonna die alone then

[turbid dome]

Yup, been years and I haven’t been able to trust anyone enough still.

[lusty zenith]

hell yeah

[turbid dome]

But when I have then they aren’t ready for it 😭

[river nimbus]

that's my goal yea but it won't be an easy path for me to trust a person, how would i even know that they're the better person i deserve

[lime cobalt]

Really? Have you ever at least dreamed of having a cute baby?

[spice bobcat]

He's made mistakes too. He is the ideal human, but not a moral compass because muslims are also obligated to follow the "law" of whichever era they belong in.

[lusty zenith]

well if my future spouse wants one then sure I can give them one

but I'd rather spend all that money on myself/us

[manic juniper]

I don't think most people are cheaters but most people have something going on that one must be ready to tolerate or live with

[austere bolt]

ok that makes sense

[river nimbus]

cheating happens in many ways tho, even if i become careful, it can still happen. but yes ur point is definitely helpful

[spice bobcat]

I wish you find answers for whatever questions you have. And don't be scared lol.

[turbid dome]

Yeah well they have some sort of issue that is hard to deal with.

[river nimbus]

i know, but no matter how hard u give me advice and all, it still won't be an easy path for me, it would take me time to heal over the trauma

[high raven]

Because throwing it all out means losing the good with the bad. Progress isn’t pretending the past didn’t happen, it’s keeping what still makes us better and letting go of what doesn’t

[spice bobcat]

Of course, I'm trying to be objective doesn't mean you can infer it in an instant. This is a vulnerable topic, I'm just glad you're open about it. Wush you good healing

[languid oar]

I was with a cheater for a year and didn't give a hint about knowing js to contemplate the lies 🌚

Till it was really enough🌚

[turbid dome]

I could never moment I found out I got explosive

[formal pilot]

I disagree

[austere bolt]

who deems whats good or bad when God's own morality isn't concrete

[formal pilot]

Btw what's the topic

[spice bobcat]

Ladies and gentlemen the argument is concluded thank you

[turbid dome]

GOAT is here

[austere bolt]

Cheating happens with a very specific behavior let me tell you the thing about cheaters

[river nimbus]

fr, i like someone now and actually i've already liked him even before i got cheated on but i chose to ignore my feelings for him over this guy then yea i got cheated on and now i miss him and i wish i chose him instead of this guy

[turbid dome]

Rip

Sorry to hear that

[formal pilot]

Only Ronaldo is the goat
||No wonder why Saudis are behind his arse||

[lusty zenith]

life lesson that everyone's gotta go through at least once. Well, yay! Congrats on having that lesson I guess

[languid oar]

I exploded far from them and nearly every being on internet knew at the time
But couldn't confront as it will be the end

[lusty zenith]

at least it's over now so you can move on and learn from it

[turbid dome]

Back with the racism 💀

[spice bobcat]

He's not a racist wdym

[turbid dome]

Ahh ok

[spice bobcat]

-# don't get him banned

[river nimbus]

i've moved on Scar, i mean it. i don't wanna waste my time over cheaters and over people who didn't love me at all. i appreciate u being my friend through thick and thin yea. i'm just trying to learn to trust people again, men i love, to be exact.

[river nimbus]

i'm listening

[river nimbus]

it's okay mind to share abt urs?

[formal pilot]

I was thinking about racism, is it racist to hate someone for their beliefs??

If I hate nazis, would it make me racist?

[spice bobcat]

Infatuation prevails. Stay vigilant

[austere bolt]

Cheaters cheat for power or thrill, its not that they dont love the person, they love themselves more to give themselves whatever they want

[turbid dome]

Nope, as those beliefs are changeable

[lusty zenith]

so true

[turbid dome]

When I was cheated on?

[tranquil vault]

Those are two different things

[languid oar]

Cheating is like psychological chain, cheaters leave behind broken ones who will cheat too
I debate✋️

[river nimbus]

fr i be like "thanks for making me experienced to be getting cheated on" now imma be more wise to bishes

[turbid dome]

Or in my case just go crazy and get super micro-managerial

[river nimbus]

stay strong ig

[spice bobcat]

Just love for loving bro it ain't that deep

[high raven]

I'm confused, you're saying God's morality isn’t concrete, but based on what? The messed up things people did, or what the core message actually teaches? There's a big difference

[river nimbus]

mhm yea

[river nimbus]

yea ?

[languid oar]

You cracked the cycle to its destination

[austere bolt]

God's morality accepted historical men marrying little girls, sex enslavement, enslavement wtv wtv

It suddenly changed now.

What if all 'good' was to be bad in some other era?

[manic juniper]

Not in my experience

[tranquil vault]

How is that God's morality?

[manic juniper]

Usually cheaters are always the same and they go on a spree, they don't really create more cheaters

[formal pilot]

Well, Some people treat breakups like software updates quietly moving on to the next version without notifying the old one that support has ended.
We shouldn't give them the tag of a cheater

[manic juniper]

They can create someone less motivated to engage in a serious and long lasting relationship but not a cheater

[austere bolt]

how is it not?

[spice bobcat]

I think she means the trend of the "ho" phase. That victims seem to flaunt.

[austere bolt]

your standards of goodwill keep fluctuating

[languid oar]

But may be in your cheater's
As manipulative love is really common among the broken from love

[austere bolt]

then your morality changes

[spice bobcat]

Don't put the burden of proof on him.

See

[formal pilot]

How

[manic juniper]

Yeah but becoming frivolous isn't cheating, that's what I said as well

[formal pilot]

Every belief is changeable

[river nimbus]

tbh idk what the phase is called but like he's into marriage shit

[austere bolt]

I explained how gods morality changed

he rejected the notion

i asked him why he rejects this notion

so its actually asking a perspective than proof and theres a lot difference between the two

[river nimbus]

that's why i wonder how he still cheated

[languid oar]

That is one pattern, but some go through numbing or trying to self prove through seeking validation

[spice bobcat]

He ain't ready for the commitment that's just a farce he's trying to build so y'all don't get suspicious

[river nimbus]

i can tell, u remember the reason for our break up 😂

[turbid dome]

Well she was sweet, bought me a few games and we would play together and all that. One day she left town and said she was going to meet a guy friend she hasn’t seen in a while who she used to have a physical relationship with, obviously I wasn’t a fan of the idea. She also went and had an Airbnb with a ton of guys. Then her sister implied she didn’t care about me anymore and I called it quits as it was obvious what was up.

The other time I was straight up told by the guy “I didn’t realize she had a boyfriend she was just flirting with me”

[austere bolt]

theyre just spineless idiots who cant communicate nd should not date anyways moving on

[spice bobcat]

He asked you how it is god's morality, which I want to see your answer to (eagerly, this is interesting) not a question at a question.

[formal pilot]

Ouch 💀

Anyway we learn from mistakes

[river nimbus]

oh damn

[manic juniper]

Well I know some people who got cheated in and in my experience they never turned out as cheaters, but as you said they became numb or started seeking validation. Unless you consider that to be cheating, I just think it's frivolous

[turbid dome]

I’m a 2 timer ig

[spice bobcat]

Guilty of having a memory

[river nimbus]

u mean her?

[turbid dome]

Yup, or just massive anxiety and trust issues

[turbid dome]

No I’ve just been cheated on twice

[river nimbus]

yea fr 😂😂😂

my intuition was very strong during that time

and hell i was right

[river nimbus]

2 timer means flirting with 2 people at one time

[austere bolt]

Okay wait so you're telling me God doesn't judge those sins accordingly (as he does the other sins like non believing)

So god doesn't endorse those things?

[turbid dome]

Oh

Lmao I haven’t done that

[spice bobcat]

Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift, that is why it's called the present.

[river nimbus]

yea, she does tho

[spice bobcat]

Now I will disappear like him too

[turbid dome]

Probably more than 2

[spice bobcat]

[river nimbus]

no quotes

[spice bobcat]

NOOO YOU'RE ASKING ME TO BLASPHEME

[high raven]

Again, you're mixing up what people did with what God wanted. Just because God allowed people to make choices in broken systems doesn't mean that He endorsed every one of them. The core values, justice, mercy, dignity, haven’t changed. It’s our understanding that’s catching up

[spice bobcat]

[formal pilot]

God?

[river nimbus]

her body count is screaming

[turbid dome]

Yeah got out before then 😭

[river nimbus]

wtf

[languid oar]

Well, may be environment differ. From my experience I saw alot of cheaters were too innocent, fell in love, got used or humiliated, then started the ho* era till she is more mature

[river nimbus]

boy u saved ur life

[spice bobcat]

Again, not a question with a question. That's just quibble, he asked you how it is god's morality not that I think god doesn't judge accordingly and whatever

[turbid dome]

Yup I don’t tolerate any bs

Even if I’m not sure if it I’m getting out asap

[river nimbus]

that's the spirit

[spice bobcat]

Here's your bread 🍞 now I'm going byebye see you never

[austere bolt]

you missed the part where i implied he endorses those sins by giving heaven to the perpetrators

[turbid dome]

Because I produce enough bs on my own

[austere bolt]

he awards that behavior

[manic juniper]

That I agree, but I don't think it's cheating unless it included cheating in your experiences

[spice bobcat]

That's God's morality?

In your perspective

[formal pilot]

You'll be missed my beloved

[austere bolt]

but theres baseline rules on things like non believing and prayers but not things like "3 marriages"

we evolved and the god evolved doesnt that imply god to be a concept?

just in our heads?

[river nimbus]

bro imma be here most of the times

[austere bolt]

because god is apparently whatever we agree with

[river nimbus]

life is getting tougher for me

[spice bobcat]

No, Minecraft can come back at any times

[languid oar]

It was my gf story. And alot like her who made me actually calm down and accept it as a phase.
Ofc it is cheating if she confesses to different guys and make a parallel relations

[turbid dome]

Enjoy the chaos

[spice bobcat]

You too

[river nimbus]

fuck Minecraft, i need sum life lessons

[austere bolt]

anyways, cheating is a choice. marry men that are lazy and want to settle fas fas 😭🙏

[formal pilot]

Blud got sacrificed

[river nimbus]

i hope i don't get cancelled

[manic juniper]

Understood, I considered that to be separate from what you described, it's usually a phase where both parties acknowledge the situation and no cheating is involved

[turbid dome]

You will be

[austere bolt]

imma do the plumbing, my man can be lazy

[formal pilot]

You just described Donald Trump

[austere bolt]

atleast he not screwing a ho

[river nimbus]

i'm not yet ready

[spice bobcat]

insha'Allah you will, now rejoice hallelujah

[turbid dome]

The standard is so low this is great 😭

[river nimbus]

what do i do to know that he's worthy

[spice bobcat]

Call him gay

[river nimbus]

do i km§

[spice bobcat]

Nah fr

[formal pilot]

Should*

[spice bobcat]

If he's insecure he'll cry about it

[river nimbus]

what if he agrees

[spice bobcat]

Consider it true and stay single

[river nimbus]

thanks gang

[spice bobcat]

[river nimbus]

is he finally the man of my dreams?

[formal pilot]

I hope it wasn't an E relationship

[languid oar]

The commitment promise is the point. It is cheating if you have promised and made it real, and not if you said it is casual

[river nimbus]

give me that

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[turbid dome]

You test by seeing if they can pull the sword from the stone

[spice bobcat]

That's what your brain will tell you when you love someone (confirmation bias lesgoooo)

[river nimbus]

tf is that test

[turbid dome]

Never heard of it?

[river nimbus]

is he a knight or smth

[spice bobcat]

ARTHURRRRRRRR

[formal pilot]

Autism test

[turbid dome]

Pretty much yeah

[languid oar]

I wanna practice English in another topic🫥

[turbid dome]

Gurbanguly Berdimuhamadow

[river nimbus]

first time having a Filipino husband? lesgoooo