🧠｜serious-chat

[wispy cedar]

Absolutnie

[prisma pike]

Sounds good

[fierce plover]

Inequality 😞

[wispy cedar]

Oh please..

Not here as well

[prisma pike]

Apply the same rule to Muslim girls as well. Will be awesome ig

[native mango]

I don't think so

[fierce plover]

They cant change their scripture unfortunately

[wispy cedar]

The thing is, men usually, FOR THE MOST PART have the upper hand in a marriage

A muslim woman marrying a kafir would put her in a situation where she might be vulnerable to what her husband might force her to do.

But obviously the #1 reason why it is haram is because Allah said so

[native mango]

😂😂

[wispy cedar]

Sick of this BS that Netflix is making people go through really

"Oh my god, I am choking in this. I need to be free!" Takes off the hijab 😂

[prisma pike]

That's why they have remained the same as they were 1,400 years ago - Osho

[wispy cedar]

Then she and HER BF THATIS A KAFIR GETS A HIGH-JAB, MID-JAB AND LOW-JAB BY YOUR LOCAL GERMAN REVERT BOXER 💪🏻

Rahh peak content 🔥

[fierce plover]

1 argument is terrible, "he can force her" what do you mean by that? a muslim man can't do that? according to islam a woman is just an incubator to bear children for jihad

[wispy cedar]

According to Islam you are a jaheel 😂

[prisma pike]

Wow

[wispy cedar]

@prisma pike TELL ME IF YOU LIKE THIS SCRIPT MORE BRADA 🔥

[fierce plover]

Im pagan and proud lmao, ty gods that im not arab

[wispy cedar]

I feel like going on a call with ppl

Anyone willing to discuss this?

[wispy cedar]

I'm not either

[fierce plover]

Then u better embrace true caucasian religion

[wispy cedar]

Which is?

[prisma pike]

Yhh, it's impossible because it might decrease the Muslim population in the future

[fierce plover]

It depends on ur ethnicity, it could be vainakh paganism, Circassian ,etc

[feral river]

that's a good thing you realize British and French rule is even more advance at this point of history

[prisma pike]

Anyway not a big deal and none of my business

Gotta bouce now

[wispy cedar]

What is Vainakh paganism?

[fierce plover]

ancient faith of the Chechens and Ingush

[wispy cedar]

Please share the details

What are the fundamentals of this religion

Moral codes

Scripture,

Philosophy

[fierce plover]

Im not Vainakh, you better ask Chechens or Ingushs abt that

If u want learn more

[native mango]

I don't think this is the reason

[wispy cedar]

Let me tell I know Ingush and Chechen people, and they are muslim, and they live by the Islamic rules as their moral codes and nobody is interested in whatever Vainakh BS that was back then

[fierce plover]

I have my own pantheon

[wispy cedar]

So it is a religion revolving around your subjective experiences?

[fierce plover]

Unfortunately true

[wispy cedar]

Unfortunately? 😂

Gosh this is a topic that I love rr, can't we discuss this on a VM?

Mb VC

[thorny steeple]

What do you thinking about islam

[native mango]

There are no difference between Muslims @wispy cedar

[fierce plover]

blood, place of birth, residence, and subjective experience, religion for me is primarily a subjective experience, and a moral code

[fierce plover]

Not for u ofc

[native mango]

It's all about faith and you can't measure that@wispy cedar

[wispy cedar]

Can we hop on a VC, people... ._.

[thorny steeple]

I am a born in a nation where I am a muslim and my identity suggests that my religion is Islam, but I am not a muslim and our nation is not overpowered by the rules of serialization, how right do you think it is?

[wispy cedar]

Next time I will have to change my profile picture to an anime girl image & the nick to something like "IloveCatz" for this to work really 😂

[thorny steeple]

Who

[wispy cedar]

Biliyom

Türkiye din açısından berbat bir yer

[feral river]

my way of solving problems was straight, efficient, and it will work mostly permanent

[fierce plover]

my profile doesnt matter , i already explained everything

btw whats wrong with loving cats

[feral river]

they will forgot the bad thing that they are experiencing right now when people realize the horror of another total war was even worse

and also another total war fit the interest of the ruling class of people in the United States of America

for the greatness of the nation they might sacrifice their life but they earned permanent glory

to the ground

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[native mango]

Welcome bro

[native mango]

I have social phobia 💀

[fresh flower]

He's not wrong

[feral river]

he's until he become a Jew

[wispy cedar]

It is a "you" thing to choose such a religion for your own good,

However to generalize this idea and project it onto masses not only would create chaos, it would make the society we are living in a horrible place.

Because not everyone is going through the same, and human beings are heavily emotion driven,

And since everyone's understanding of "what's morally" alright is different, you would give them the permission to actually live by them

It is like saying "you should live by your own truth" to a rapist.

Obviously what he calls to be a moral action, isn't something alright.

[wispy cedar]

Wym I do love catz

They are cute.

It wasn't about you anyway, I was just saying

[wispy cedar]

Well it is totally the issue of the state that you are from

As for your own, the responsibility is to make research and get to know your religion

Turkey is a country that has made bidah/innovation in religion a widespread thing

According to the average turk, Islam is basically spinnin around with your head a little bit bent AKA practice of Sufism

Whereas I call you to get to know about Quran and Sunnah

[wispy cedar]

U didn't get my point, I was saying those guys identify as a muslim whereas she is saying their original religion is Vainakh Paganism which was some sort of Ancestor Worship

[median thorn]

[wispy cedar]

Arghhhh

The level of majesty,

Masculinity,

Culture, tradition, values...

DEM BRO

[native mango]

I never heard in Vainakh Paganism

[native mango]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

[eager geyser]

hey october

[hidden shore]

What if i touch her hand

What if a Muslim girl fell in love with non Muslim guy😹

[sharp creek]

is that consanguineous marriage allowed in your guys city

[muted patio]

Question about Religion again.

[sharp creek]

if someone told me i should marry my sister, would that be an insult

[astral eagle]

Is love a choice or an uncontrollable feeling? If it’s a choice, how do we explain falling in or out of love?

[sharp creek]

are you dumb, its a feeling

the charismatic and handsome man from Game of Thrones loves his sister, I think.
and his whole family marries their own relatives, Is that quite common to see

[quick musk]

They were popular in the past but now forgotton

[scarlet cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367

Game of thrones MENTIONED HOLYYYY!!

what a server

[quick musk]

Logical

[hidden shore]

Yeah 100 precent rizz to deal religious girls😹😹

[native mango]

If you mean punishment there is no punishment for that

[native mango]

What's the point of the question

[verbal torrent]

Good point

[verbal torrent]

Either she will chosse the love or afterlife(which isnt certain)

[native mango]

For the muslim girl it's certain

[olive herald]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-teamfortress2-christian-christian-gamer-love-gif-7243444683091873262

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-daisy-flower-monday-good-morning-blessings-grateful-gif-4839367601963124097

[manic juniper]

Which gods do you pray to

[feral river]

I'm so grateful that the terrorists is dying everyday

[high raven]

[oblique quartz]

So the love is something you see it a “certain”?
Then how people get divorce ?
Does the “love certain” thing is a really certain?

Believing is different from certain things

We Believe there is a prophet named mohamed came to tell us what is certain and what isn’t

[sharp creek]

whaaat , why

are these pots fake illusion

[turbid dome]

They said it isn’t certain

[sharp creek]

you are mocking us uneducated bumpkins

[shy summit]

Bro can you be normal for one day?

[winter echo]

Islam have been around since the time of prophet Adam,
infact prophet Adam is a Muslim and he's the father of Islam if you will

[dapper laurel]

Not even the terrorists now?

[manic juniper]

Minecraft be like:

https://tenor.com/view/no-emperor-palpatine-gif-13110787

[sharp creek]

hahahahaha

[dapper laurel]

Anyway, guys, we have to think about the state that oppresses us. We can't defend the rights of others if we don't defend our own first

[turbid dome]

“Political power grows out of the barrel of a F35’s GAU-22/A”

[sharp creek]

is that you you look handsome

[dapper laurel]

If only I could buy my own guns

Luckily I'm about to receive my first paycheck

[turbid dome]

Oh nice, on your way to accumulate your political power

[turbid dome]

Who

[dapper laurel]

You, baddie

[sharp creek]

you sir

[turbid dome]

Oh lmao

Yes that’s me

[sharp creek]

i like you sir

[dapper laurel]

The first thing I'll do with that money, though, is buy some new video games

[turbid dome]

Virtual political power

[dapper laurel]

With the remaining ones I will organize a coup d'état

[turbid dome]

Good luck on ousting Meloni (could she get a ceremonial position so we can get memes about her facial expressions though)

[dapper laurel]

I hope you get married one day

[turbid dome]

Thanks ig

[sharp creek]

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/meloni-melon-market-gif-14305966

[manic juniper]

Erdogan reference

[uncut tiger]

Do you think there are some parts of morality on which all of humanity would agree?

e.g. killing an infant kid that you saw for the first time

[verbal torrent]

Most likely she will choose the after life
Or maybe she could try to convert him

[verbal torrent]

Ok

[verbal torrent]

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

I don't get it, why are they doing that

[twin needle]

Hi.

[lime cobalt]

When earth is no longer survivable, we live in a bunker, we forced to do anything to survive, are we gonna still have moral thing ?

[turbid dome]

But what if it saves a group of people

[turbid dome]

I mean, since morality is an invented concept and not anything concrete then yes, even if morality is “do literally anything”

[manic juniper]

If the child violated the NAP then I can't guarantee my neutrality

[sharp creek]

what is NAP

[uncut tiger]

what if it does not, and you saw the kid for the first time, you dont even know its parents, and then my question is that no person would morally approve of killing this kid, right?

[turbid dome]

I wouldn’t personally but what if someone is racist?

[turbid dome]

Non aggression pact

[uncut tiger]

wont they know deep down that this is wrong

[turbid dome]

Maybe some of them, but many of them fully believe

[uncut tiger]

okay remove this ambuigity too, say the kid is white af

now what

[grim cloak]

Can people joke here in serious chat if they joke seriously

[turbid dome]

If they’re Jewish wouldn’t a Nazi still try and kill them?

[turbid dome]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ITS PARENTS

[turbid dome]

Yes but Nazis are paranoid, look at all the people transvestigating, they’ll just say the kid is Jewish even if they’re not

[uncut tiger]

You got to be kidding me...

[turbid dome]

No I’m serious

There’s people online who look at a cis woman and try and determine if they’re secretly trans, Nazis do this too with their race science? Head too wide? Eyes not blue enough?

[uncut tiger]

So you are saying that killing a innocent kid that did nothing to you is approved by some people

[turbid dome]

Yes, I’m saying some people can always justify anything

As you change things about this kid the group will get smaller and smaller but it will never be 0

What if someone just hates kids and wants the human race to end?

[uncut tiger]

While there might be extreme fringe cases or pathological individuals who do not condemn such an act, the overwhelming majority of humanity, across all cultures and historical periods, would consider the wanton murder of an innocent as an unforgivable and unjustifiable "sin."

@turbid dome chatgpt

[manic juniper]

What if the kid looks like a Jew and you're a Nazi

Wouldn't you take the risk or would you get your supervisors mad by ignoring him and flees to Yugoslavia

[turbid dome]

But then all of humanity doesn’t agree

[uncut tiger]

we would exclude the extreme cases wont we

[turbid dome]

Well if we’re making a claim about human morality as a whole we need to include the whole

[uncut tiger]

but the extremists have their morality blinded by their ideologies

[turbid dome]

You can’t say all humans would agree on something if you remove some humans

[manic juniper]

You can remove the humans who disagree

Problem fixed, all humans agree that reptiles are superior

[turbid dome]

Well then then you have your answer

[turbid dome]

And now to do that you just need to get rid of the counterrevolutionary children

[lime cobalt]

Is all Nazis bad guys ?

[turbid dome]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Depends if they are found in a kitchen or not

Some nazi are useful to cook

[uncut tiger]

would you be offended if i made the same joke about women

[turbid dome]

Don’t ask what they cooked 💀

[manic juniper]

Wouldn't make sense because women aren't knives

[manic juniper]

Pelmeni

[uncut tiger]

but they are dishwashers though

[turbid dome]

Is Nazi Finnish for knive?

[manic juniper]

No it's Latvian

[turbid dome]

Oh ok

[manic juniper]

In what language

[turbid dome]

English Sexist Standards

[uncut tiger]

in the language of metaphors

[manic juniper]

Sounds primitive

[uncut tiger]

[wispy cedar]

I believe Allah is the ultimate judge on deciding whether if something is moral, or not

And to be able to look at something and have some understanding, He has given us conscience as an inner judge

As of common moral points all humans agree, though it is possible that there are such elements, to rely on these commonalities is like relying on the mood of someone who is instable:

Now he accepts a certain thing because he feels like it is the truth

Tomorrow he rejects it because of some external pressure

[wispy cedar]

This is the way they have been going to a proposal for hundreds of years

They are keeping the tradition, which I think is beautiful

[uncut tiger]

checkmate @turbid dome

"As of common moral points all humans agree, though it is possible that there are such elements, to rely on these commonalities is like relying on the mood of someone who is instable"

[turbid dome]

I don’t believe in any god, this statement is reliant on a god being the ultimate moral judge

[manic juniper]

Didn't he mention humans, Allah isn't human

What if humans disagree with Allah

[uncut tiger]

what about just the part i quoted

[wispy cedar]

Ok what's going on 💀

[turbid dome]

Reliant on the previous one, in full context, though I still disagree with that and it introduces nothing new

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[lime cobalt]

You know what nazi am talking about , i mean can we feelnormal after doing bad thing, it will haunted them

[uncut tiger]

nothing new?

it just solved the problem by justifying the exclusion of extreme cases

[turbid dome]

It didn’t haunt many of them, many of them got high ranking jobs in various governments, they were only scared of someone taking revenge on them

[wispy cedar]

Whatever way it might seem to anyone, it is impossible to reject the idea of an Objective Truth through which people decide matters such as moral & immoral

[turbid dome]

Except the exclusion of extreme cases contradicts with “all humanity”

The vast majority sure but not all

[wispy cedar]

What is the talk about , may I know 😂

[manic juniper]

Some of them were, but they had turns in doing bad stuff, plus most of them weren't directly involved because they were in guard duty. Realistically the average bad thing they did was shooting at people, which is something soldiers still do

[turbid dome]

I don’t see how there is any objective morality

[turbid dome]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

starts here

[manic juniper]

When you train to become a soldier they try and desensitise you to most things, the only thing you have to watch out for are orders from higher ups. You have to be very responsive and not hesitate

[turbid dome]

Ma’am yes ma’am

[wispy cedar]

I mean this is a really deep topic where billions of different ideas could all be brought together into one place, however what can be done here is to explain the point and the stance of each one of us

[manic juniper]

If they tell you to shoot at someone you do it unless it breaks the civil code, but killing civilians they didn't like and traitors was their intention all along, killing them was not a violation of their civil code

[uncut tiger]

why cant we exclude them just for the fact that they are extremist

[turbid dome]

Plus when you get pardoned for breaking the law why worry about it

[wispy cedar]

I wouldn't join any army unless it is a properly led Islamic army under the rule of a righteous Caliph

Otherwise such orders are inevitable

[manic juniper]

Why tell me this

[turbid dome]

Because extremists are still people.

Besides, morality has changed over time. Beating your kid may have previously been morally acceptable, yet today it highly depends on where you live, which shows morality to be a product of society.

[wispy cedar]

It wasn't to you, it was overall a response and a statement I made regarding this issue of military & how it is being used

[uncut tiger]

you dont believe in conscience

[turbid dome]

I believe it varies from person to person

[wispy cedar]

Alright, it is a reeally interesting but a deep topic for which I am quite a bit sleepy 😂

@uncut tiger ur a muslim, bud?

[turbid dome]

If you haven’t figured out how to predict my stance it will almost always be pretty materialist

[wispy cedar]

100% means yes..? @uncut tiger

Aha

[turbid dome]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism

[wispy cedar]

I see

[lime cobalt]

Ah they care only for their people, for some reason they are heros for their people right ?

[manic juniper]

No, serving the military has nothing to do with caring about others

Most people participate because they are fine with earning a paycheck for violence

It can be about national defence but that's just about the orders you receive, it can very well be about martial law or offence

[fresh flower]

Ermmm what is going on

[turbid dome]

Oftentimes the opposite, I think you fundamentally have to be fine with devaluing human life if you’re in the military, unless you were conscripted

[fresh flower]

Did any of yall serve

[turbid dome]

Never will

[manic juniper]

[turbid dome]

Sad I can’t go die smh

[fresh flower]

Why aren't you defending the constitution 🤬🤬🤬

[turbid dome]

Racist document

[lime cobalt]

You saying the bad guys is the commander, coz soldier only obey

[turbid dome]

Also just genuinely a garbage country which shouldn’t exist

Hot take: the American revolution was a net negative

[manic juniper]

No, that's called being complicit

[fresh flower]

You're from Belgium?

[turbid dome]

No but I’m glad we’re almost aligned here, but Belgium doesn’t exist

[manic juniper]

Must be Russia then since Belgium doesn't exist and Russia exists too much

[turbid dome]

Just following orders was the Nuremberg defense

It failed because it’s bullshit

[turbid dome]

Lmaooooo

[lime cobalt]

Oh man human is complex , they have their version of right

[fresh flower]

I did the basic training here ☝🏻🤓

By Allah I will answer the call if we go to war

[thorny steeple]

If Wallonia and Flandres emancipated and became different countries would you recognize them as such?

[turbid dome]

Yes

If they wanted it why not

[thorny steeple]

If you live in a small town they will dismiss you in Brazil so no

[bronze pier]

Seriousness

[lime cobalt]

Complicit you know a lot about law ? Its a new concept for me, thanks

I’m wondering whether complicity can result in a prison sentence.

[turbid dome]

It can

[thorny steeple]

I don't know a single person who hasn't been beaten by their parents in Brazil 😂

[turbid dome]

Yeah, here in Arkansas it’s probably common, same here.

But in more liberal places it’s much more frowned upon, especially by millennials

[neon sierra]

Hi

[lime cobalt]

Well thats good, its prevent bigger crime

When a witness who has knowledge and does not report, and instead gives false testimony, they will be charged under this article.

Great

[manic juniper]

Helou

[neon sierra]

slavvv ( hi in kurdish) :)

[manic juniper]

What do you think about these borders

[neon sierra]

wow, but what is that dark green part

Was the hitite empire that big

[manic juniper]

It's the Egyptian empire, the lighter green is the less settled part

Since they didn't have clear borders as we do today

[neon sierra]

dayum

they came all the way up

[thorny steeple]

Yes it was very common for the X generation to be beaten by their boomer parents, apparently the newer generations are growing more progressive

[lime cobalt]

Why don’t Jews spread their religion like other faiths, and why do their rabbis even reject someone three times before allowing them to convert to Judaism? Its interesting

I like this kind of religion

[sharp thunder]

If anyone believes the earth is a globe they should probably go to the 24/7 Flat Earth Discord guestroom Voice channel and let them know what for. Good on you all.🙏

[proper dagger]

I wasn't lol

[turbid dome]

You survived

[thorny steeple]

He's a survivor fr fr

[turbid dome]

I don’t know the explanation for why it’s not spread, but rabbis rejecting multiple times is probably to see if they’re a true believer

[lime cobalt]

Yess make sure only serious one

[thorny steeple]

Serving the military means dying for the political interests in senseless wars mostly

I'm out

[thorny steeple]

Because they don't want the goyim to join them

[thorny steeple]

So anti military?

[olive herald]

helllo isfruna

[formal pilot]

Why is everyone getting engaged

[olive herald]

u guys are now getting arround 20-30s...

soon u will get the unc statuts...

i am sory

the new gen is coming here....

[turbid dome]

I’ve already been given unc status by some please help

[stoic anvil]

İ remember u my friend how are you? @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

You ain't unc yet

[turbid dome]

Ik but some call me this still just because I don’t understand internet stuff

[thorny steeple]

It's a meme as always lmao

[turbid dome]

Yup

[thorny steeple]

Same sometimes

[turbid dome]

Rip

[stoic anvil]

@thorny steeple What have you read about history lately? I really want to learn Kurdish history

[thorny steeple]

Well more like watch, I haven't gotten into Kurdish history yet lmao

[stoic anvil]

Na na i ask you what are learning about history lately

Not about Kurdish history

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/WFlIKK8uBOo?si=FnRzTTsZzVIASbxy
https://youtu.be/CwO5-KOTtfE?si=LEkHoSa5q1hg4hYhhttps://youtu.be/l6MkofL_Ug0?si=57YwOAFlcA_9w5d1

https://youtu.be/l6MkofL_Ug0?si=FTYyi8h8unn_e5E2

[stoic anvil]

Wow cool.

I like the history of liberalism the most, and also the communists and anarchists of Marx's era.

[thorny steeple]

Understandable the German communist founder

[thorny steeple]

Are you an anarchist?

[turbid dome]

I wish there were more writings in English about Ernst Thälmann tbh, very interesting guy

[thorny steeple]

Agreed It's sad that he die during WW2

[turbid dome]

Yup, the Soviets abandoned him

[thorny steeple]

I wouldn't know about him if it wasn't for the social democracy game which i have played in awhile lmao

[thorny steeple]

Definitely left him to die, in the truest soviet sense

[turbid dome]

Yup, he would’ve been a great agitator against the Nazis but they did their cold calculations with Ribbentrop

[thorny steeple]

Yeah mate was ducked the moment it was signed, honestly hinderburg should had keep Papen for a lot longer lol

[turbid dome]

Yeah, he might’ve had the greatest prediction with his “vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler” quote

He knew what would happen to him if he stayed and did anyways, takes balls ig

[thorny steeple]

Yeah the DDP was sputtering out and the reform into the DsTp ended it , then the DNVP got it's ass destroyed after Hitler took power when they thought they could control him lmao

[thorny steeple]

He was a big balls man, he did whatever it took to maintain the Republic

[turbid dome]

Yeah, people will criticize him for not working with the SPD, but with how well he predicted everything else and how he even extended an alliance offer to revolt against Hitler it’s sort of hard to blame him

[thorny steeple]

Agreed the SPD fought till the end and I'm glad they're still around their ideology of social democracy is something that fascinates me ngl

[turbid dome]

Nah the SPD rolled over in the end

[thorny steeple]

Oh well I've be an SPD biased lmao, they did but at least they tried ngl

[stoic anvil]

I defend liberalism. Democracy is the best system until a better system is found. Although sometimes I question the borders and political aspects of their State...

[shy summit]

“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all others.”

[dapper laurel]

In the end their goal is to oppress you

[thorny steeple]

And exploit you till you're nothing

[dapper laurel]

⚫🟨 is the only answer

(it's ancap, not ph)

[uncut tiger]

My professor says that the worst form of democracy is better than the best form of dictatorship.

[uncut tiger]

What's ph?

phone number

[dapper laurel]

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[feral river]

Democracy is about compromising, not blatantly blaming the opposition for every bad situation you have

I prefer totalitarianism

[thorny steeple]

I prefer Marxism Monarchism

[rich abyss]

I prefer anarchy

[raw heath]

What are you guys talking about?

[feral river]

rise of the Nazi Germany already proved the monarchy is ineffcient and it was weak as fuck

[thorny steeple]

Lmao the monarchy wasn't a thing post 1918 lol

[main bison]

Once the good King dies the monarch dynasty is over

[thorny steeple]

Boom shakalaka the Roman empire western part

[uncut tiger]

You mean the ottoman empire

[thorny steeple]

Had it not joined WW1 it will would had collapsed

[feral river]

🇨🇳 Jinan city, Shandong province, People’s Republic of China

[thorny steeple]

Mechanical Mao Zedong is coming then

[feral river]

A random plaza around my house

[thorny steeple]

Quite the sight lol

[feral river]

I don’t mind if they put another arm on the dog holding a QBZ95

[past tangle]

Ahhh love that malls

Its really beautiful

[thorny steeple]

Lmao 🤣

[sharp creek]

im still curious about consanguineous marriages

is it allowed in most countries

[muted patio]

Really? Marvelous.

[sharp creek]

no one responses to me, is it a bad question

[thorny steeple]

Don't eat him pls

[thorny steeple]

North Korea

[coral belfry]

i didn't expect to see these 2 words in the same sentence

[native mango]

It's okay in middle east

You can marry your cousin here

[uncut tiger]

You could've said cousin marriage and it would've gotten more replies

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-man-gif-25512832

[sharp creek]

oh i get it thanks guys

[hidden shore]

Robot Dogs become pets and we can eat dog meats ☝🏻🤓

[sharp creek]

hahaha

[placid parrot]

I'm serious

[crisp dock]

but there are some consequences

it's not always good idea to marry your cousin

[sharp creek]

the medias claimed searching sensitive info on google would be a crime absolutely in russia

pathetic @all russians

talking with us might subject you to amount of fines

[prisma cipher]

Nice

[prisma cipher]

Most Russians don't know English and can't communicate here, and my honest opinion, they haven't lost anything.

[fresh flower]

Is everyone behaving here

Or do I have to get involved

[uncut tiger]

Would you sacrifice your life for Pakistan?

[spice bobcat]

Real sigma

[spice bobcat]

I pledge to be pilot

[thorny steeple]

But who are you?

[manic juniper]

Another Brasilian I guess

[uncut tiger]

Of the Pakistani aand forces?

[spice bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/pakistan-soldier-gif-5095741621511573762

[spice bobcat]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY BELOVED

[thorny steeple]

While on 4chan: darkest south-korean vs whitest Andalusian

[ember kelp]

Hey every one

Whats up

[olive herald]

I am sorry man 👨

[turbid dome]

Moneybag says it so it must be true and not a scam

Oh wait…

[turbid dome]

Thanks lmao

[manic juniper]

Spaniards are paid to sleep on Friday

[feral river]

since when people use per capita to evaluate one's wealth

will you calculate the value per capita of each items ?

like my phone worth 600 USD my PC was 2000 USD and my headphone was 7 USD so the item per capita is 869 USD

[turbid dome]

“Look at how good South Korea is doing”

Suicide rate tells all, ignore the fact most companies are from Japanese collaborators installed by Americans

[turbid dome]

Yeah GDP is a terrible indicator, I can give you $1 and you can give me $1 and nothing happened other than the GDP went up 😂

[indigo mulch]

What's going on

[hidden shore]

[hidden shore]

You are rich

Millionaires

[feral river]

GDP/nominal or GDP/PPP in total account I think it's technically available to illustrate one's productivity and the amount of wealth they generate every year but what's the point of having a GDP/nominal per capita ?

I think that does not have any use besides it can be used by leftists to say some bullshit about income inequality because they are fucking broke ass

only broke would go left

[turbid dome]

I mean, I don’t care about productivity, I care about PPP as I think it’s a decent indicator of quality of life. If I was a leader of a country I would care about Productivity to an extent

[feral river]

well you do generate wealth from these properties which generate productivity

I would say a random shit you produced when it can't be sold on the market again, it lost its value

[turbid dome]

Well yes but that doesn’t show the total population, just the average.

[feral river]

well no I mean do you know what's the difference of between GDP/nominal or GDP/PPP and GDP/nominal/PPP per capita ?

I mean the per capita thing is total pointless and bullshit

not the total GDP/PPP or GDP/nominal which does illustrate one's productivity

even in the poorest nation there are rich people and they see the things much more different than broke ass

in this capitalist world if you are broke, you are not valuable anymore, you are nothing

[turbid dome]

Nominal is total whereas PPP is adjusted to purchasing power

[feral river]

yeah I mean those factors does count in a very technical way and you can see one's wealth and productivity through these factors

but per capita the fuck ?

what the fuck is the meaning to calculate the fucking per capita by dividing the population in certain state

[turbid dome]

I mean, the statistic is useless in a sense, it assumes an even distribution of wealth, I see why leftists use it, not because they believe it’s a good statistic but to highlight wealth inequality

[feral river]

can't agree more and fuck that

next time who ever talk about this shit im gonna calculate the capitalist capita to let him know who rules the country and the world

[turbid dome]

Yup, I’m ngl I hate all measures of GDP, why should it concern me in my class position? I care about my quality of life, not the productivity, now maybe if you’re a general you care about productivity as productive forces are useful in a war, but even then GDP includes things that may not be useful in a war

[turbid dome]

Yup, capitalists are in charge

[feral river]

well that's on you I would think I care about how many bombs we produce every year and drop that shit on terrorist's soil

[turbid dome]

I do too tbf, but to the opposite extent. The more bombs dropping elsewhere means less money going to me, even from a completely amoral lens where I choose purely what’s best for me and set aside what I believe to be right and wrong, I would say it’s more beneficial for me to get cheaper healthcare than to bomb some random Palestinian or Afghani child. In fact, I’d argue it’s detrimental as the imperial boomerang always comes back home with the state learning more suppression tactics and the resulting trauma and anger we cause in the region will inevitably come back in the fashion of 9/11

Now if you add in morality then I think there’s nothing that justifies slaughtering civilians

[feral river]

you would appreciate every bomb you drop when you lose something much more important and that will impact mostly everyone from the United States of America

and that was totally relying on your only proxy in the middle east and your military presense

[turbid dome]

What is that

[feral river]

remember, it's you have to send the money and the bombs and the aid to them for your own supermacy

[turbid dome]

Why do I care about supremacy

[feral river]

because that was relating to your economy situation

[turbid dome]

The vast majority of the money goes to large companies anyways

[feral river]

you would lose your superpower status, with your rich economy status, with your strength and power and wealth

that's the truth

without that shit you guys are just an another bigger China

but with these shit you are so different from a typical nation-state but a superpower

that's the real reason we can't really replace the United States technically for now

[turbid dome]

That’s all owned by the state and large corporations though, not me

[feral river]

but they produce stuff, they generate wealth contribute to the market you are buying stuff to

the heavy inflation would impact you if they lose their source of money to do that

dude you can only become rich and powerful to be avoid getting hurt from these guys

otherwise they say what they want to do, and they enforce that without your opinion

[turbid dome]

We have an overconsumption issue in the US though, the issue isn’t supply or wealth, if Norway can be wealthy so can we. Its distribution.

[feral river]

we should have that shit

[turbid dome]

We have nukes, that’s sovereignty enough

[feral river]

dude productivity was relying on consumption

you lose your consumption, you lose your national power

you lose your tax money, you lose your financial status

[turbid dome]

Yes but the national power I don’t care about

[feral river]

that means all of you would go poorer based on that

[turbid dome]

We’ll always be a big enough market that people invest here

[turbid dome]

Only because the government has chosen to tie the country to this system, it can be uncoupled and does nothing for me

[feral river]

why would you think losing national power is actually benefit you

[turbid dome]

It’s in my best interest to uncouple it

[feral river]

what

dude no

everyone was in this

unless you got isolated you don't pay taxes and you don't use the USD

this is a survival struggle

[turbid dome]

Not using it to slaughter millions and instead conserving power is much more beneficial

If bombing everyone showed power China would be doing it right now

[feral river]

do you know what consequences you would bear if your country lose the current status and domination ?

[turbid dome]

China is conserving its power to build up strength at home to benefit people

[feral river]

that's leftism propaganda dude

[turbid dome]

Yeah, the market would suck, but this is where you have to take control of the market

[feral river]

we build infrastructure just because there were many isolated region in China and we can use that to boost the productivity

[turbid dome]

Yeah I agree, but the result is it benefits people

[feral river]

also build stuff has cons like we are already out of the money to build more stuff in the regional government

also inflation goes up if you build very much stuff

bubbles goes up

[turbid dome]

The economic investment and infrastructure will increase economic activity to compensate over time

[feral river]

no dude it's not like that

it's just because of the fucking productivity and money

you still see many people in China were isolated in west region just because it's hard to reach them out and we do nothing about it

[turbid dome]

Yeah I’m not saying China is a benevolent country that cares about its people, I’m saying that it understands the power in benefitting people as it pacifies the population, and that it also increases productivity and benefits the economy. Because wielding power at home is infinitely better than overseas

[feral river]

but let me explain how it can't be worked in the US

you live in the US you know what's the situation and let me explain that

[autumn owl]

Trade school and apprenticeships are worthless. Your college doesn't matter if you're not ivy league or in high honors class. Yeah, I get the "college Is better than no college" quote, but come on? Would you hire someone from Alexander University? Or University of Kentucky?I'm claiming that if you're in the average college, it really doesn't matter because employers wants an ivy league employees.....

[turbid dome]

In the US if we spent money on high speed rail instead of bombing people it would pacify the population, increase economic activity, increase productivity, and benefit the population

[feral river]

no fuck that ain't work dude

let me explain

[turbid dome]

That is much more in my interest than bombs overseas

[feral river]

first of all, if you want to build stuff in US, you gotta pay more averagely, infrastructure wasn't a liquidity

and second, in China our land ownership was public owned which means you doesn't own any land but the government owns all of it

[turbid dome]

We have eminent domain laws here, and there’s no reason we can’t afford the infrastructure

[feral river]

if the government gonna build a highway on my house or some town, they only need to find a place and pay some compensation money to set the people out without a negotiation, it is forcible

[turbid dome]

The US government can do the same thing

[feral river]

also, it's the state-owned enterprises running the infrastructre and holding the ownership and they generate profit based on that

[turbid dome]

No reason we can’t create state owned enterprises

[feral river]

the first problem for America was, most places of America wasn't densely populated enough

[turbid dome]

True

[feral river]

you can't find 7 cities where American people are having the same number of they have in the New York city

and the price of building a highway was based on the distance

also most Americans do have cars, cars wasn't expensive for Americans, even almost every American family would have one if they have to go to work in the cities

that means if you build the same thing in China you settle people easily, run that by state-owned enterprises, and earn money easy because that's where people all going around

but America ? are you kidding me dude

that's clearly not the same thing

you can't run infrasturcture by taxpayers money, and they must generate profit and having productivity that contribute your economy to be maintained and preserved

[turbid dome]

Yet it still generates economic activity, as you can see in Europe. Maybe not to the same degree but it does. Infrastructure can still create returns depending on the type, so it actively generates more tax revenue to spend on other things

[feral river]

you can set standards for companies to maintain them, but you can't just like donate the money to run that one

and it's very expensive

[feral river]

it's not that worth in America if it was your laissez-faire economy would already generate a lot of capitalists who would invest in such projects

they do nothing just because they aren't profitable, enough

[turbid dome]

Still slightly profitable though, and also a function of the car lobby bribing politicians. Also our economy is not laissez-faire, the government intervenes on behalf of corporations all the time

[feral river]

they do nothing is the best proof it's not profitable

unless your government limit them to invest in such projects

[turbid dome]

It’s proof they’re paid off by automotive companies

[feral river]

you can complain monopoly but what's the tie between not building that shit and monopoly ?

[turbid dome]

The government authorizes construction of roads and railroads, they don’t do so because oil companies get money off cars and auto companies get money off of cars, and they lobby the politicians not to do shit

[feral river]

monopoly exists, yes I understand that even in America but that doesn't have any clear relationship between we do drop bombs on terrorists ground and we should invest ourselves

[turbid dome]

It has nothing to do with profitability, it has to do with who can bribe the politician more

[feral river]

you simply can't

[shy summit]

What terrorists

[feral river]

then straight to communism

exactly

[turbid dome]

I wish

[feral river]

dude ISIS, Hamas, Taliban etc.

that's too much

[shy summit]

They’re pretty much non-existent

[feral river]

then humm you are communist ? if that's the case

[turbid dome]

Yes

[shy summit]

After out campaigns in the ME? They’re not the boogieman people claim they are

[prisma cipher]

If you don't talk about them, doesn't mean they don't exist

[feral river]

gosh you have to crack down on them for maintain the US supremacy

[coral belfry]

hello

[turbid dome]

Not a fan

[coral belfry]

i know

[feral river]

US supremacy is even more a lot than that

[shy summit]

They exist, they’re just hardly even a threat anymore.

[feral river]

they are a threat to your 51st state in the middle east

your only proxy that empowers you to show up your strength in every cornor of this region

[turbid dome]

Tbf you would think it’s the 1st state with how it’s treated

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/ozzy-osbourne-old-bye-goodbye-gif-12928889845528616286

Ozzy Osborne gone

[shy summit]

A) Israel is a sovereign nation

B) no they aren’t, they are well defended.

[feral river]

😭

[feral river]

if you cut them off right now they won't be well defended very soon

they are exactly surrounded by enemies

[shy summit]

The idea that israel is somehow at risk is only possible if you lack an understanding of their arsenal

[feral river]

that's why they are so important and they can never challenge the US, and they are so reliable even more than any other nation to the US

and they are the proxy of US representing the US interest over this entire region

[shy summit]

Hardly

They’re just willing buyers of arms

[feral river]

YOU HAVE MIC

DUDE GENERATED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS PROFIT AND SAY OH THEY ARE FINE WITH THEMSELVES

😭

[shy summit]

They’re committing war crimes and engaging openly in ethnic cleansing

That’s reason enough to cut off offensive arms and stick only with defensive ones

[feral river]

do you think it's very important, to you and your country ?

[shy summit]

I think it’s important we don’t support ethnic cleansing

[feral river]

tbh I don't see any interest related reason that you are responsible for the shit they have done in their own business

[feral river]

humm well if you think so I can respect that but I don't think it was related to national interest

and national interest above all in every nation in the world

whoever don't put the interest in the first place are already disappeared from the map

and why not just send more bombs taking more profit any longer and just see how they are doing a hard work fight against your enemy ?

I don't really know what's the technical logic for you to think your business of ethnic cleansing or not whether it was being justified I assume that was, then take it above the money and profit you generate above that shit for all the time

[hidden shore]

Go to sleep

[feral river]

with the national interest fight against islamic influence and middle east anti-american power, then maintain the oil-bound USD trading system that was directly related the US supremacy ?

[hidden shore]

Go to sleep

[feral river]

I think if you made me to do this decision I would say it's** cutting myself off by committing to some toilet paper** I'd say

it's very contradicting to your national interest and goal over the region

[rigid merlin]

Indeed he already gud I wonder what he still doing in English hub

bullying ppl

[hidden shore]

Really Bully who

[coral belfry]

how important are they
they dont make computer chips like in taiwan
they are not an oil producer
does Israel even contribute in the security of the united states?
i dont think so
they are consuming surface-to-air missile , a lot of missiles

[feral river]

dude I can't really explain that much if you don't understand the US dominance at all, I hope I can find some sources for you to know how it exactly works

and I tell you how it was so important to have Israel

I would say without them, the US system would collapse for real

all the things that put the US on the top of all other nations after the end of WW2

followed and strengthened after the end of the cold war

[coral belfry]

no it would be like the loss of south Vietnam
a loss but not a internal collapse

[feral river]

if there wasn't an Isreal they have to create one

and Israel is what they created

[feral river]

South Vietnem is very far less from Isreal

[coral belfry]

not really
what created Israel is the british then the soviets

[feral river]

and I suggest you to know about US dominance then talk about how it was important or not

it was almost the most important part ever

strategically, economically, militarily, and politically

[thorny steeple]

Avg Israeli supporter

[feral river]

every part was important to the US interest

[coral belfry]

no

[feral river]

that was totally objective you can check the sources

I don't care if you repeat the same shit

you can check it by yourself and if you don't want to know that, okay

I'm not trying to indoctrinate people and it was unnecessary to me

cutting support to Israel is a kind of political influencial suicide to the United States

they are important in every factor, even based on geography

[coral belfry]

the Americans while voting for the 2 state solution (after ww2) were woried about the us-arab relations
but the sovites aimed to weaken the British dominance
and supplies from the poppet state Czechoslovakia came to the aid of israel aginst the arabs

[feral river]

and what they are doing is exactly what I'm saying

they do support Israel with every cost that is possible

[coral belfry]

soviets to weaken the British dominance in the ME
not Americans

after ww2

[feral river]

don't even see you are making an analysis or just make a point based on the interest of the US

you are not contradicting to my point

[shy summit]

You realize you’re actively supporting a campaign of ethnic cleansing against a civilian population right?

[coral belfry]

and the American foreign minister told the Egyptians not to attack in some battle because that would make the world see a soviet supported army defeat an American supported army
"cold war politics"

[coral belfry]

NOW
how does Israel serve the interests of the united states , in the 21 century

post cold war

[feral river]

I'm on the perspective of the US to evaluate the whole thing, and that doesn't represent my stance, but for me I would say it's barely none of my business besides some military stocks I bought that was related to Israeli-American forces supply, and whether it was ethnic cleansing or not, I think you need to check it very carefully based on the defintion

as what I'm seeing right it's very much about propaganda more than the truth that is happening around the region

even the pop of Israel has 20% arabs

[shy summit]

There is no millitary gain in bombing civilians

[feral river]

yeah that's true even justfied political gains

I don't think few bombs is capable to eliminate few million people

neither cut off the supplies do work as what they anticipated

ethnic cleansing is a little bit too much by defintion and it was very strict by standard

[coral belfry]

what they ment by "if israel didn't exist they would create one"
is that they would create a us ally in the ME any way possible
not that genocidal apartheid state

[feral river]

war was continuing for all the time, and I don't think you see their population is drastically declining

obviously that didn't happen

[feral river]

if you don't understand national interest above all, I don't think I have to explain anything

believe your genocidal or something other shit which are all on the toilet paper nobody gives a fuck

[coral belfry]

no you dont understand what i said

read again

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[potent hatch]

sup

[wind zinc]

Hii

[fresh flower]

Welcome guys

[fresh flower]

Stop yapping

[wind zinc]

Is anyone from switzerland?

[fresh flower]

I haven't seen anyone around bro

[wind zinc]

Oh men

Where are you from @fresh flower ?

[fresh flower]

Sweden bro

My country is always mistaken for yours

[wind zinc]

Nice mate

Bro Sweden...

Sweden taught me how to snus...

[fresh flower]

I got one in right now 💀💀💀

[wind zinc]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[fresh flower]

Do you use actual snus (Brown) or the nicotine pouches (White)

[wind zinc]

I'll put one in now too. One second

[wind zinc]

both of them but rather the pouches

[fresh flower]

Hell yeah

Which one do you use?

[wind zinc]

VELO Frezzing Peppermint

How about you?

UFFF

Which part from Sweden are you from?

[fresh flower]

Did Switzerland get hit with that "stronger than 3/5" ban like France and UK?

[fresh flower]

Right outside of Stockholm itself, like 30 minutes from the centre of it

[wind zinc]

No, the Swiss have allowed snus since 2020. I was one of the first to use it in my village. Now it's more than half

[wind zinc]

Oh nice

[thorny steeple]

I don't have in serious topic so in my mind I want just talk and practice english

[manic juniper]

A pioneer

[grave falcon]

Interesting conversations. How is everything in Sweden?

[grave falcon]

Isn't that all connected to the oil-dependent USD trading system, or no?

[fresh flower]

Can't complain

Just heat and inflation

[thorny steeple]

Ozzy died

[thorny steeple]

A legend has departed it seems like

[turbid dome]

Finally he will stop eating the bats

Couldve given us all covid

[thorny steeple]

Noo the poor bats lol, it be covid 2: the civil war

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[turbid dome]

@manic juniper what do you think of this mammal on mammal violence

[manic juniper]

Delicious

[turbid dome]

Are you on team bat as they’re less evil than humans?

[thorny steeple]

As always mate's team reptilian

[thorny steeple]

Aren't you vaxxed?

[turbid dome]

Yeah but still

[thorny steeple]

So did you ever get covid?

Apart from being vaxxed?

[turbid dome]

3 times, all of them after being vaccinated, all because I went back to school and people here are dumb af so everyone spread Covid

Wore a mask too but nobody else did

So oh well

[thorny steeple]

Same but I never got vaccinated and keep my distance from people

Or more like I don't leave the house anyways lol

[turbid dome]

Yeah fair

[rich ice]

hi

Geat to see u

unstressful syllables is what gives english its natural melody

[hollow fjord]

Hello, bro

Bow are u?

[rich ice]

oh, fine

thank u and u?

[hollow fjord]

I'm good, bro

[twin needle]

Hi.

[sharp creek]

you look like you catch covid every other week

[thorny steeple]

You look like a kid's toy from temu

[hidden shore]

In Chinese social media they said covid is from America originally

[thorny steeple]

If it was it be reported the first cases from America lol

[hidden shore]

Yes Chinese scientist they found slightly evidence that it’s from America

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[dapper laurel]

Did scientists find their degree under the Christmas tree?

[thorny steeple]

More or less so

[thorny steeple]

I'm glad it isn't 652 lmao

[dapper laurel]

Anything to blame America

[thorny steeple]

Minus China

[manic juniper]

To be fair everyone blames it on someone else, the Spanish fever originated from American crops/cattle but was blamed on Spain

[thorny steeple]

Yeah because weren't they neutral in WW1

[dapper laurel]

In this case it could have been any other country, but why America?

[manic juniper]

Idk they also blamed Italy and Spain because they reported it first

I guess propaganda purposes

[subtle hedge]

Hi

[dapper laurel]

We only had an effective medical system

[fresh flower]

Next global virus will come from India

[dapper laurel]

However, it's impossible for it to be American. The coronavirus that infected humans had many genetic similarities to a bat coronavirus in the Yunnan region

[dapper laurel]

It could be, China has regulated the food standards

[feral river]

it is and it is suicide to not support Israel for their geopolitical and economic interests

They have to do that to maintain their sphere of influence and dominance and national interest and economy situation, and political dominance, and etc.

And they are highly strategically important

It’s the place they live with the status they are, decided they gonna have unlimited war in the future

If they live in some random islands or the south point of the South America nothing very much happen, also it was useless for the US

But they are just nearby the Suez canal, around all of other islamic nations, and they gain leverage against the nation which controls the choke point, their existence threaten all other nation around in this region

Make a nice analogy It’s a more perfect Pakistan against India

The ultimate form of achieving divide and rule then control these nations

[manic juniper]

It's just that other countries didn't want to admit shit

[feral river]

whoever don't support Israel in the US are all contradicting to the goal of maintaining the United States the most rich, powerful and influencial state, and would destroy everything they built on dominance based on politics, economics, strategic locations, and geopolitical affairs

I would say it's like you are living in North Korea but do not support the Supreme Leader

but for the US I would say their politicians don't give a fuck, most of the crucial corportations that runs media, industry, and other financial stuff was by the Jews, they have every leadership which would kiss the Jewish wall, send unlimited aid to Israel, and support them in every move as possible

at least there are some clever monkey in their elite political system, but it's still stupid to make these asshs a chance to challenge the leadership by their word and vote

world is not a kindergarden, world is a dark forest where everybody has its own struggle to survive

survival for the fittest

[feral river]

we never suggest people to eat wild creatures we must process them under government regulation to ensure they pass the standard of condition that will not cause any harm on the consumers

like dogs, we have dog factories which would produce dogs, process them, cut them into pieces and sell them to the resturant

and it's all under government regulation which is healthy

and we totally respect the freedom of eating which America doesn't have

🇨🇳

FREEDOM

[rich ice]

@feral river Hi

@feral river hey, where re u from? ur letters are so sensitive politically

[feral river]

send me your location I can help you to make a reservation about the issue of your eye ?

[fresh flower]

Bro needs to get medicated 😭🙏🏻

Holy unhinged yap

[sharp creek]

those annoying idiots are all the same they never engage in real discussions directly.
Instead, they throw out some obscure metaphors,
thinking they’re all chill and clever.
have never been able to get used to the way these people talk

those idiots look all the same around the whole world when you work with them, you ll never get a straight response

they are so cowardly that they are afraid a debate might make them look ignorant or stupid

[south kayak]

you guys gotta chill

[lusty zenith]

It's not cALLED CHILL CHAT IT'S CALLED SERIOUS CHAT OKAY???

Hello I am serious today.

[hidden shore]

I found that ,In this chat the average person is top ranks diplomatic politicians

[lusty zenith]

Lol "top ranks"

More like keyboard warriors

[hidden shore]

Very interesting to read the chat discussion

[hidden shore]

[south kayak]

why can't we be both chill and serious? I'm very serious alright

[lusty zenith]

You know what. You're right. I'm chill now. And serious. I'm chillerious.

[south kayak]

what a wonderful thing, no we all can have serious and respectful discussions

[night osprey]

[lusty zenith]

Here's a serious discussion topic. Who is the best Spiderman and why is it Toby Macguire

[jolly agate]

You still alive

[jolly agate]

Serious people don't tell when they serious

Matter of fact you ain't even smart enough to spark a debate, argument, or a discussion

I still hate this app

Yet here I'm

[jolly agate]

I like that one

[native mango]

F*ck Israel

[feral river]

F*ck Palestine

[native mango]

What type of humans that think killing civilians is okay

[feral river]

🇮🇱

[feral river]

kill terrorists is okay and kill all of them

[south kayak]

sorry Mr Serious, I apologize for being a fool, I hope some day I be like you

[formal pilot]

f em

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173014475465568296.gif

[feral river]

none of you guys bought one gun for Hamas

but I'm funding Israeli military industrial complex

🇮🇱 and we will win the war

[coral belfry]

nope

[meager basin]

Hello!

[meager basin]

Are'u jewish?

[prisma cipher]

There is no we. It they. And your money.

[prisma cipher]

No, he is looser. He think he give them money and it mean he win something too.

One day China win but it will be not his winning because he funding enemies. He don't become homie for them, newer happening, and not homie for Chinese because betrayal.

[upper peak]

disaster ⚠️

[lime cobalt]

Why do so many verses in holy books sound so brutal?

is god evil ?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[lime cobalt]

It seems that the morality of holy scriptures is no longer relevant to modern ethics — human moral evolution appears to be moving faster than God’s morality.

run faster god

[turbid dome]

God has done more genocides than anyone

When he doesn’t do them he commands people to do them

[lime cobalt]

Bold claim , but let’s rewind a bit. Does He even exist in the first place?

[turbid dome]

Nope

[uncut tiger]

damn

u made a comeback

[sharp creek]

funding who

i thought they are funding you guys?

chinese love russian

[prisma cipher]

Who they it one Chinese.

[sharp creek]

what do you mean

[prisma cipher]

It one Chinese dude he might support whoever he wants.

It not you guys it one Chinese

[sharp creek]

who !!

[prisma cipher]

Minecraft

[bronze pier]

Advice of the day:-

NeveR attempt to taste a coffee lover's coffee. NEVERRRRRR

[dapper laurel]

Too simple like this, and also too deterministic

[thorny steeple]

Never attempt to taste coffee lover is coffee.

[cosmic wolf]

Where’s joe?

[shy summit]

Well fuck you too. We have great coffee you’re just without a sense of taste 😭

[native mango]

Shouting some random guys on the beach is killing terrorist

[hidden shore]

He is top ranks diplomatic politician in china

[hidden shore]

Pls bow to him and respect him

[native mango]

I give respect for the smart only

This man think that going the other direction makes you important

He is acting like a kid

[hidden shore]

After a year you will get to know him very well😹

Minecraft He is a good guy actually

[long forge]

Hello peeps

[uncut tiger]

Respectfully, this kind of radicalism from a crewmate is neither expected nor appreciated.

[shy summit]

I’m clearly being sarcastic Diaz.

Chill

[peak summit]

[uncut tiger]

Fuck you nale.

Clearly being sarcastic

[shy summit]

There you go! See you get it!

[thorny steeple]

How are you

[shy summit]

Doin’ good

[thorny steeple]

Great. Where are you from bro

[uncut tiger]

Wait so I can curse on moderators now?

As long as I'm being sarcastic??

[shy summit]

I don’t care. Be as casual and jovial with me as you want dude.

[feral river]

DJT

D ! J ! T !

🇮🇱

Now I’m being sarcastic

[thorny steeple]

Do you mean the Old Testament? Well the Hebrews were a bronze age civilization, they were brutal themselves, that's why YHWH shows up as a ruthless being

[feral river]

Cuz they wrote this as what exactly happened on them

But still twisted many things and relate with some ass

[feral river]

Ethics was shaped by only 2 things, one is their interest, the other one is authority

Both was irrelevant to religion with their claim

[shy summit]

Have you seen the leaked document about Trump and Epstein?

[feral river]

nah I'm not even aware about what Epstein have done there are too many conspiracies and also political struggle was involved

it's just too early to have a conclusion

also there are too many questions about this

why would Trump administration would allow this to happen

[shy summit]

Its an actual document, not a conspiracy, look into it.

[turbid dome]

The thing about the Epstein stuff is the full details won’t come out until everyone who would suffer from it is dead.

[feral river]

I don't know how a child trafficking and sex abuse case would be this complicated

[high raven]

Probably because it went on for over 20 years, with at the bare minimum over 100 hundred of victims

Trump just doing it once seems far fetched tbh

[turbid dome]

Well when the governments top officials are in on it

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/6mwo7ULGJrY?si=NLQNckyuzLGzsAkJ

[turbid dome]

Yeah this isn’t even news, been known for years

[thorny steeple]

Yeah and the steam is picking up now

[turbid dome]

Yup

Can’t believe this is the thing to cause massive scandals

[thorny steeple]

Definitely will it be like Watergate?

[turbid dome]

No way, we’ve had a billion watergates

This won’t end him, maybe his popularity but he will stay in office

[thorny steeple]

Yeah he will survive, so will the party split then, between supporters of releasing the files and not?

[turbid dome]

No idea

[thorny steeple]

Alright

@dapper laurel Sup Magna Italia

[lime cobalt]

Yeah, religion must adapt to moral evolution and scientific evolution. In the past, the Church even persecuted Galileo for supporting heliocentrism.

[feral river]

they are simply not required to stay exist.

just like terrorists

it's time to make all people under one leader, one flag, one ideal, and one identity

[thorny steeple]

Into utopia we go

[feral river]

the best ethic was showing up your loyalty and praise the Supreme Leader with no underline

[thorny steeple]

A better model be a council utopia

[feral river]

nah totalitarian rule is obviously better

[thorny steeple]

Definitely let's split the globe in a totalitarian rule and democracy 1:1 evenly

[feral river]

and it will be all under totalitarian rule very soon

[thorny steeple]

Definitely 11984

[fallow rose]

Hey y’all learning Ai agent

[turbid dome]

Suppressing people under totalitarian rule will inevtiably cause resentment the moment the standard of living falters, whereas in democracy you trade control and tbeoretical efficiency for stability (of the overall system though maybe not a party)

[grave falcon]

What is an 'AI agent'? I've never encountered that before.

[feral river]

that's not true and make people under totalitarian rule wasn't a type of suppression, neither it would cause resentment under the absolute force and control

[grave falcon]

I’m not sure why, but that gives me vibes of the Ottoman Empire.

[feral river]

only flawed authoritarian rule would cause resentment and making society instable, totalitarian not at all

you can never find a guy who are resent to the rule either under the Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Mao's China or North Korea

[turbid dome]

This has to be sarcasm

[feral river]

only in flawed authoritarian rule would cause resentment

[grave falcon]

Does 'resent' mean 'to follow the rules'? Because, if anything, many people attempted to adhere to them.

[feral river]

nah it's the truth, whoever expresses the resentment to authority would go straight to camps

especially in Nazi Germany and North Korea they implemented this very successfully

[coral belfry]

sure

[feral river]

did you see any German resistence movement lmfao

[coral belfry]

people supported hitler at some time
except the left

[feral river]

totalitarian rule is the only type of rule would establish efficient control over everything, exactly the most powerful type of regime

[feral river]

the left was all disappeared before Hitler was in power guess why

[coral belfry]

totalitarian regimes fall more often

[feral river]

well democracy surrender more often

very true

[coral belfry]

examples?

give me one

[feral river]

do I need to pull out a list ?

okay

[coral belfry]

yes

if you have one

[feral river]

France, Belgium, Netherlands, Poland, Czech, Austria, Denmark

and more ? let me see

anyway that's a lot

[coral belfry]

they are weaker by military at that time
in ww2

[feral river]

and Baltics

[feral river]

yeah they do surrender because of that

[coral belfry]

no

[feral river]

did German surrender because they are weak in the later of the WW2

they don't

they fight till death, that's why they are powerful

and those losers are surrender especially France which have a complete navy forces with armies but surrender to Germans

I never see Mao's China or Soviet Union under totalitarian rule, or Nazi Germany surrender even once

not even once

[coral belfry]

that is because of their ideology, not the system

[feral river]

that's because the system shaped by ideology

stop that bullshit right there

the system is guided and established based on their ideology

every single one

[bronze grove]

[coral belfry]

some of them
a lot of it was from "the german empire era"

[feral river]

btw based on the power of the state, why can't France which have better economy situation and huge population to Germany and they have a huge military but they surrender that fast ?

lmfao

L

[coral belfry]

out dated military
terrible economic policy
all that stuff

[feral river]

in democracy

you don't see that in totalitarian rule

by military power even till now you see a poor North Korea but they maintain a very large number of military with advanced equippments

why the heck you would think their materialistic situation wasn't related to their regime

[coral belfry]

look at italy
they are fascist
they are totalitarian

[feral river]

that's ridiculous

[feral river]

nah they are authoritarian by definition

[coral belfry]

lts see

[feral river]

not really totalitarian at least not that much

a coup will not happen in a perfect totalitarianism state

especially it was targeted to the leader

[coral belfry]

hitler was lucky to survive all these assassination attempts
isnt he

[feral river]

it was by the later of the war that could happen but that's not a coup

I never say totalitarian rule was the best system for the people but it is indeed the most powerful system by unit of the state system

for me the most powerful one was the best one

🇰🇵

Salute to the eternal supreme leader Kim II Sung

[coral belfry]

there were coup attempts too as we can see

"German resistance"

[coral belfry]

north Korea is so isolated that we dont know much about the internal political structure nor the resistance movements nor any thing else about the state

[feral river]

that's nothing you don't even know if you don't check the source

[coral belfry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism
okey i am reading

Done

[shadow bronze]

Am

[thorny steeple]

Well ask away

[last acorn]

Sup bro
What do you believe in

[thorny steeple]

Irreligious

Used to be Christian a long time ago

[last acorn]

And why are you irreligious for now

[tepid solstice]

I'm a pagan

[tepid solstice]

It's better

[thorny steeple]

Religion isn't appealing towards me

[last acorn]

No one asked mate
Go to the next chat and try your luck

[tepid solstice]

It's a public Server 🙏
Not yours

[last acorn]

So you tried to understand the trinity before like me but you didn't get it and it didn't make sense right?

[thorny steeple]

Nahh I get it it's that with technology and our Capitalism what's the need for religion in 2025

[last acorn]

Yeah bro I feel you
Getting the benefit of religion and rephrasing it for their own needs

[thorny steeple]

Yeppers specially Christianity in the USA some parts of it are profit y'know those mega churches and fancy pastors

[last acorn]

Yeah bro I sometimes follow what's up with those kind of ppl and I really sad about the gathered ignorant ppl who are following such kind of churched and pastors

But there's truth somewhere I think
and there's a reason for the existing of religion
Maybe for Objective moralities and as a message for us
Making us know that we are created for a purpose

[thorny steeple]

Yeah what's happening it's that our Lord and father capitalism is the new religion on the block

Worship money for profit and care not about others

[thorny steeple]

Definitely so how did you become Muslim?

[last acorn]

For me I actually was born Muslim
And once I've become 17 I tried to know why am I a Muslim
Is it just because my parents are?
Or because It's actually the objective truth
From my studies I found out that Muslim is not someone who just believe in the prophet Muhammed but a Muslim means submitting to the will of god and worshipping him do good deeds and stay away from bad things
So I believe that all the prophets like Adam, moses, jesus, muhammed peace be upon all of them we love them but we don't worship them we believe that they are the prophets and the messangers of God who brought the same message which is worship God alone with no partners and do what's good and stay away from bad deeds

[chilly nimbus]

[last acorn]

Just as simple as it is
No fairy tails, no fancy made up beliefs
but I believe in what's written in the Quran which is preserved from the day when it revealed to the prophet Muhammed till today and the Authentic hadith

[last acorn]

70% is laughing, what a shame ma'am

[thorny steeple]

Definitely I won't obviously argue as the folks do with longs texts and going back and forth, and

[last acorn]

Leave out me and leave out the folks

You search up for the truth yourself

Because someday

[hearty vessel]

Hey what is goin on

[last acorn]

You will die and so do I
If there's nothing and we all will be dust
So no worries for both of us but if there's actually something you will be in a serious trouble

[thorny steeple]

Definitely if I wasn't lazy on reading I be ready those scriptures

[thorny steeple]

So have to ask and I hope you don't get mad at me, but are you Sunni or Shia or do you believe In the Quran no Sunni and Shia in between?

[last acorn]

I'm a Muslim who follows the Qur’an and the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad
Allah says in the Quran: "Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects — you are not [associated] with them in anything." 📖 Surah Al-An’am (6:159) And the Prophet Muhammed said: "Stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly-guided Caliphs after me.." (Sunan Abu Dawood 4607) We don't follow divisions. We follow what was revealed and how the Prophet and his companions practiced it

[peak summit]

[last acorn]

I had to copy and paste the verses and the hadith as it is

[thorny steeple]

Understandable or paraphrasing be a bad or fake Hadith?

[chilly nimbus]

I don't see a problem with me getting 70% btw
مكنش حد من اهلك بيصرف عليا علي فكره