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what does Ahalya mean?
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There is definitely an ethical compromise that can be made here.
no, we had come to an agreement as to the types of gifts that were acceptable. as in natural materials. and she said she had let people know about it.
please expand.
correct
Ok, so whats the problem then?
That's a great decision, is the problem that she accepted the wrong gift one time?
He wants to be a dictator but without the cult of personality
no, i wasnt "mad" about it. at first i just pointed it out but she went on to make a fuss about it.
I agree
@light girder i did not see that a collision was going on
i just saw your name
she didnt "accept" the gift, it was sent by post and came from her mother. of all people. with whom we have had this very discussion already a few times.
couldwell be, she is pregnant again.
yes, i am sure she did forget. but as i said. i did point it out and then she just went crazy.
Oh my gosh, I was literally joking again! So your wife didn't return a gift that was already sent to you and that's why you're upset??
this LLM is just ragebaiting at this point
I'm dumb, what is LLM?
people who talk like chatgpt
lol, me? we ve got a camera in the livingroom, i can send you the footage and you ll see that i wasnt here at the computer and just pointed it out nicely
and troll in a subtle manner
no, you dont get it.
ah, ok I agree with you
@ionic merlin is trolling fr
you arent really reading what i am writing.
this is pointless.
so we've come to an agreement
you have a problem with grammar.
how?
read what you wrote and explain the sarcasm part.
past, sarcasm, then switch to present?
would imply the following is not.
well, obviously, talking to non-native speakers of english is an issue.
I said "woman should know their place" you said the reason you took that seriously is because there are children in the chat
before that
then I said, "darn woman and their hormones" and you agreed
i didnt
I reported him, the admins will keep an eye.
Yes you did. You said "it may be hormones, she's pregnant again"
which is what i did.
how is that disagreeing with me?
lol, wasting your time.
I agree. But he should also stop chalking up all her feelings to, "its just hormones"
there is nothing "reportable" in anything i write.
yous on the other hand, are pretty brutal
you never answered my question
which question?
Thanks! Admin should definetly keep an eye on him
Omg this is Elon’s new evil grok
how far does one go with being accommodating before one's actions become irresponsible?
This guy I mean
At what point did you disagree with me when I said, "darn women and their hormones?"
take it easy she is at most a few weeks pregnant, not like she under any sort of pressure.
she was under pressure from her family to get pregnant
i didnt even notice that line until you pointed it out the second time around.
you are misunderstanding
Especially if its from her mother and its already been sent to you
"when she wants to" as in never. she spends most of her time on her phone.
you still arent getting it.
Ok see, that's a reason to "knock some sense into her"
Im dumb, whats Isfarun?
lol , well then they should all be listening to me. my wife is 19 years younger. and her parents are just a couple of years older than me, so your argument doesnt hold
yes, because she is trying very hard to keep me here
I think she is a girl always debating here
Me?
not sure where thats weird
lol
oh i see
you guys really need to learn to read. this is becoming ridiculous.
hi guys what are you doing?
SO MUCH
entertaining the crowd
are you a comedian?
This guy comes in, goes, "Help me talk some sense into my wife" and now every time we disagree with him he says we don't know how to read
your assumptions are nowhere close
maybe you replied to a wrong guy....
He's definitely trolling, but I reeeeeally want to win this one
thats an interesting misinterpretation of the matter. but nothing surprising
yes
poor you. clearly delusional now.
i was honest
?
so what's your argument?
are you 60?
and what would your argument be then?
@Ahalya I think we've been played
lol, well thats a non-starter then.
naw he's 15, we've been played
no, you ve already decided you know what and who i am, which is funny enough in itself.
and so has she
all that gives a decent clue as to the level of the place
as in?
Okk, give us a bulleted list of exactly what has happened with your wife and exactly why you're upset with her. Then you can't use the "everyone can't read" excuse
at this stage, i feel it wouldnt help.
you guys clearly know it all, and have the picture colourful enough to your own fancy.
whatever actually happened, you are going to dismiss that plastic pollution is an issue and then will just give her full credit because she "might" be pregnant.
which she hasnt even tested yet, so it doesnt seem to worry her much
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "MIGHT BE PREGNANT" YOU LITERALLY SAID EARLIER THAT SHE WAS PREGNANT
she is usually right on top of it when she thinks she is.
i did not.
i saidyou guys cant read
there lies the reeal problem.
i am very careful with grammar , i wouldnt right "she is pregnant" knowing this hasnt been comfirmed.
that said, apparently i am 15 so clearly none of that can be true.
explain this
What's going on
We got trolled lol
right, there is a misplaced comma there
I believed this guy had a wife he was, "trying to talk sense into" but he's actually just here to troll everyone
there you go.
And now that I get that he's trolling, I'm enjoying it!
you guys are dangerously inept.
if only you were right.
You're right. Back to the kitchens I go! My husband needs a sandwich
well, they know they are wrong so now they are trolling
no, I literally just told you. My husband needs a sandwich
probably not the right place for you.
So I have to go get him one
That's enough to make a faminest cry .
Thank you I try
the world is in good hands with you lot.
lol @ionic merlin clearly does not know how to read.
Keep this good deeds
I just said I was off to get my huband a sandwich
Your wife might be pregnant or something? Is that the gift of the convo?
not remotely.
but dont ask me, i am the troll, ask the almighty crowd.
it is a well known fact that crowds are usually right
Correct. But also, he said earlier that his wife was pregnant, then said she still hasn't been tested yet. That's how I know he's 15
and that s how i know you havent seen much of the world
correct again!
My husband doesn't like it when I go out in public
Which is fine by me because I'm a hoorible driver
oh no, dont worry. your driving cant be as bad as what i see here
good day
oh no...
that's a measly 50% accurate. not going to get far with that.
but i think pointed out the inacurrcies would be pointless since the crowd has already passed judgement
there was no fight, the agreement preceded the "incident", she is the one who hopes and contemplates being pregnant
she surmises and i wrote "could well be she is pregnant again" because you brought up hormones (so much for calling me sexist)
I'm so confused
right
How are you guys focusing on the pregnancy part and not the sending a machine gun by mail part😭😭😭
i think it'sfair.
i agree. that shocked me too. and my wife and i have talked about it several times in the past so that is very frustrating.
true. we often send fruits from here to relatives in other parts of the country, inter-city, we manage to gets packages in under 24h
thats right. and it is good of you to acknowledge it now, albeit belatedly.
people keep making assumptions just based on gender but there is a lot more to it than gender
I had no idea that gun control was that loose in China
I understand what Minecraft means now by "I hold the guns"
actually BB gun are illegal here.
i met a guy who served two years for ordering one online.
It say.. any statistics
well gun is prohibited in China
gun control in here is super strict lol
but I hold the guns because I have the money to go outside and take a gun
and I have the stocks of the gun manufacture companies when they produce guns and bombs I take the profit
and they use them to bomb the terrorists
I disagree
Cat memes always win
i dont think they ignore the fact, in fact in the UK vegans (i am only vegetarian myself) commonly denounce the practice.
the real questions is: why do most vegan not boycott phrmaceitcals as a whole?
well pointed and i do find it hypocritical.
i consume dairy products but i dont use any sort of drugs/medicines
and i cant say i feel any worsse for it.
so it is possible to live well and fairly painlessly without modern drugs and medicine.
but most people (and vegans belong to the most people) are scared of pain and death.
my view on dairy farming is biased though.
Someone translate this language
use google translate
you just copy and paste the picture in google translate
you dont even need to download it
Okey i don't have to know
Probably translate will be wrong
technology, amazing.
Wrong
We've had cancer for a long time, but it wasn't something diagnosed or understood.
Cancer wasn't invented what.
There's a lot of factors, lower population, lower age of mortality so it didn't develop in a lot of people.
But it did exist
Which was the point I was protesting there.
I did
He wasted his time then, Stalin was achieving that pretty well
there many elements that cause cancer, not just food additives
quite so.
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What the hell guys 
You got reported?
Idk who did
road side dwellers have a higher rate of cancer for reasons not connected to food.
you arent bad enough
I try and keep insults to myself for that reason.
good start i guess.
Done, now what
Not true. There's no link.
There is toothpaste in my toothpaste
I know, but it's not linked to cancer. There's plenty of studies on the link of fluoride and cancer.
yes, the link between fluoride and cacer is well documented
dupont de nemours paid over 900 million USD in compensation to victims in the US
leukemia is technically a form of cancer, it is also linked to testicular cancer
Studies literally say the opposite. This has been heavily researched for a long time. Please don't believe the drivel of american politicians.
Or you'll start injecting ethanol to cure covid.
to be fair , i am sure their other ingredients in toothpaste that could also be responsible
but fluoride is one of them indeed
studies sponsored by dupont de nemours and their competitors, yes
Yes RFK the biggest buffoon in American politics. Funny how you scrolled past all the actual credible sources to screenshot that.
i think you are wasting your time. i have seen him/her in action earlier.
Bro linked sources against his claim
so what do you make of the dupont de nemours lawsuit?
"No primary link between bone cancer and fluoride in 12 of 14 studies"
It's literally in your screenshot
thats merely "bone cancer" , rather broad for a study
"There is little evidence fluoride is harmful or causes cancer"
not exactly like shooting himself in the foot
Saying it doesn't cause bone cancer doesn't mean "it causes other cancers" unless that's what's being reported
Which it isn't
this is called great P.R. , "cancer" here actually meaning "bone cancer"
It literally says 'no clear link found in 12 out of 14 studies', lol, right above the post about RFK's lunacy
Don't care I want to see the link
Yeah.
neither does it say that it "doesnt cause other cancers"
A CNN article is as much of a scientific paper as this copypasta I'm about to send
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i think you guys are leaving out one important fact.
those so called studies are sponsored by big-pharma , have very small scales and the objective is precisely P.R.
Don't care I want to see the link
lol, ok
The moon is flat. How did the Americans land on it?
still, do any of you deny the dupont the nemours lawsuite and the 900 million they paid in compensation to victimes in the U.S.?
Nobody is responding because its nothing to do with fluoride
leukemia and testicular cancer were the main two types
Deny deez
yes, it was about fluoride
silly assertion on your part.
Link the actual lawsuit then.
You see, nowhere in that study it says "fluoride doesn't cause nuclear explosions" do you not believe that USA dropped two fluoride bombs on Japan in WW2
the terms of the agreement with victims was that no blame would be apotioned and the agent was renamed C8 something i think.
I googled for a surface level search because it's not something I'm aware of but all information I could see talked about general contaminations.
But link the lawsuit please
in PFAS, the F stands for fluoride
No. Not how that works. That's not the same as fluoride
lol
Contain fluorine based compound. Sure.
alright, clearly you dont want to be wrong.
you ll make up any sort of excuse
But contain fluoride, no.
Bread is a carbohydrate. Coal is carbon. Bread contains Coal.
That's your argument right now.
I eat a brick every day.
I once woke up under an extinguished bonfire and I was covered in coal and ashes
Aren't almost all studies like this sponsored by big pharma anyway? Still, the findings should be judged on their own merit and based on expert consensus. However flawed that process is, it's still way more reliable than a lawyer claiming to be having brainworms. This guy is close to Trump to the amount of lies and bs he'd said.
At physiological pHs, hydrogen fluoride is usually fully ionised to fluoride.
I've seen charcoal activated toothpaste but never used it
In biochemistry, fluoride and hydrogen fluoride are equivalent. Fluorine, in the form of fluoride, is considered to be a micronutrient for human health
meaning fluorine is the basic element in fluoride
Again I refer you to my bread and coal analogy
so if fluorine is contained in fluoride so if fluorine is linken to cancer, chances are...
well, maybe you need to go and study biochemistry, to see the difference
Or I can do a simple search which clearly shows that fluoride is not in PFAS
actually everything breaks the DNA causes cancer
Any simple search online shows you that fluoride is not in PFAS. Just look for yourself
cancer is basically formed by chances whether you have high exposure to something that cause cells mutation which would increase the chance for you to got a cancer
even a normal person without doing anything, averagely we generate 1000 cancer cells everyday
alright, let's say i didnt study biochemistry and you understand everything
a cancer is established when there's a cancer cell that is mutated enough powerful against your immune system while could survive under your body's condition
they are super powerful because under the nature of the natural selection only by very few chances such cancer cell would appear
but once they were well formed, and are able to fight against your body system, you are going to dead
Hiii :3
Just because you have studied a subject doesn't mean you're going to be right all the time.
You got it wrong, deal with it.
it's not virus or bacteria which is the invaders of your body which you are able to eliminate them as a whole, the cancer cell is formed in your body
I can't get cancer, I hold the gun
and they are super easy to mutate under natural selection which probably win against every section of your body system that could prevent them from regeneration
no, i didnt get it wrong, i am telling it is the other way around and you are refusing to see it.
it's just by time and chances, once enough time is provided, everybody would got a cancer lol
PFAS do not contain fluoride, they are used in the production of fluoride though
do you get the difference or are you really thick?
you can hold the gun and order the doctor to heal you or he will die because he's useless
you are looking at the problem from the wrong end, do get it?
if you don't have the gun either you gonna heal yourself give tons of your money to these assh and even by that they don't anything probably
it's like saying "flour doesnt contain bread"
sounds mightiy clever, doesnt it?
you don't need to brush the teeth if you have the gun
you can order somebody to brush your teeth
some guy earlier was talking about the link between fluoride and cancer but some guys here dont understand what fluoride actually is so they deny the link
Ya de bi zui (idk if I remember it right)
if you have the gun more than the number I have I can st*u
show it
Maybe they're confusing flouride in PFAS with flourine
Fluorine is the one in PFAS, not Fluoride.
That's what I'm saying, idk the topic tho 🙏🏻
Yeah, it's the other guy here confusing the two.
I hold the gun, I can do anything
But it did successfully derail the discussion.
Biggest cause of cancer is stress, idk what science says, nothing ruins your health more than stress
because in small doses it is not a big deal, and it has a half-life of just a couple of hours or so. so it degrades quickly and gets absorbed but in large quantities, the stomach doesnt contain enough acidic agents to degrade it all and if it is not ingseted (other forms of exposure), then it can be dangerous
i think non of you really know what cancer is. 
you still do not get it.
PFAS are the base element for fluoride
I already explained how cancer works lmao
Playing CS at 3am is cancer.
they really think cancer was something super hard to understand it seems
I'm microdosing my future child with plastic so they build up a tolerance and don't get massive side effects from just being alive once they grow older
okey good
thats interesting. i often wonder how many generations it might take for that to happen
wasn't effective than a 7.62mm bullet
And I gave you the bread analogy.
There is no credible link between fluoride and cancer
Synthetic PFAS is not Fluoride
Therefore the lawsuit about dumping PFAS is not evidence for Fluoride causing cancer.
lol, can you actually read?
A part of PFAS stems from fluorine, but it is not made from Fluoride
You're confusing the two
no, you are telling me there is no bread in flour, i cant argue with that
but that s besides the point
there is flour in bread
That's not what the bread analogy was
and there is PFAS IN FLUORIDE
Literally misquoting
There is not though
yes, its odd
yes, PFAS is a basic element of fluoride.
what is wrong with this guy?
yep
and the "genome project" absolutely hasn't been done until 1990
we didnt know much about dna untill after the genome project right?
I've seen gnomes irl
okey
Ask Isfrun if you don't believe me
My buddy Alex was abducted by them, he said they probed him
I've never seen gnomes, I don't think they exist
Maahiset however, those are very real
Unfortunately endangered after the Great Abduction of 1983
the irish wouldnt like your saying gnomes dont exist
The maahiset look different
I guess gnomes may exist but their niche is filled by the maahiset, and they can't live in Finland
i love it
Doesn't look like a maahinen
are you goin to say santa-claus doesnt exist, next?
shocking
No, the Great Abduction of 1983 was caused by "Santa Claus"
what is a maahinen
i dont understand
good, i am relieved
First two look like maahiset
ok
They're small people who live in the forest and bogs, they are invisible most of the times and they abuse metsänpeitto to imprison whoever disrespects their home
It's just a gnome, they call them "maahinen" to be different, they're brainwashed by Big Moomin
No, gnomes don't have any metsänpeitto
All gnomes were created equal under God
You're being gnomist
Gnomes would be genocided under a maahiset regime
right there he goes then
he wanted to get reported earlier
Maybe they belong to the same clade but they're not a species or genus of gnome
that is ground for report
Did you just misgender Isfrun😱😱😱
Ever since elf numbers are dwindling the Joulu Goat started kidnapping maahiset too
Now many forests are left empty and they are forced to work in Greenland
No one cares about what's happening in Greenland
It's too far from most people's view
Pentti Linkola was right all along, if we left the forests alone this wouldn't have happened
Yes, a Finnoid
I'm sure Urho Kekkonen made a deal with the Joulu Goat to allow this to happen
They say Nordic countries aren't corrupt, what about this. Literally enabling genocide
whats the joulu goat, i spent a few weeks in joulu, never heard of it.
"Santa Claus"
hmmm... alright, so that's why the russian attacked, they were aiming for joulu to abduct santa-klaus?
No that's because their ranks are filled with orks
makes sense
i think...
so if i am "ranskalainen" and someone inverts the "s" and the "k" by mistake, am i at risk of getting infected with orks?
Okay, may I ask, is it about Finnish?
it's about lore in general.
Or anything related?
but it's very much about keeping oneself entertained being silly
good to know.
so what do you make of the fact that butter and moondust rarely meet?
Getting sidelined harder than neanderthals
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Noooooo pookiewookie 😓😓😓😓
we are up to 7 % neanderthal.
the neanderthal is lurking
Day by day we get closer to becoming a full neanderthal
does sure look like it.
evolution is a thing of the past.
Dem, THERE IS ACTUALLY A SERIOUS CHAT OPTION??
Opinions on moral decaying of the western countries
sounds like a good topic
that would be "opinions on the moral decay of western cultures."
Thank you for correcting my G, you sound like you wear glasses 💪🏻 😂
All cool with me 💪🏻
now the first question would be "decay" relative to what/when?
i dont and hopeful i ll die before i accept to wear glasses
tp spme extent western culture as long been "corrupt"
Good question, let me think on this and come up with something that will sound smart
(think sbout or reflect on)
Relative to their former cultural and moral standards from 100 years ago, how does that sound?
Does it sound as smart, that is what concerns me the most 🤓
right, that seems fair. decadence could be said to have started after the first world war.
OF 100 years ago
and i think it is often said that the war was a factor
I align the reasons with highly liberal stances of the states , what say u on that?
most of the "west" witnessed the horrors of the war and it led to some loss of belief in the good of humanity for some and a quest for pleasure
There has always been wars in human history, why specifically this one?
I would say the main change happened with the development of such ideologies from 19th century with the end of the Napoleonic Era
Never considered myself as a fan of western values, though respect some old ones of them
However these modern standpoints people try to reflect on their morals is just too much
(what say you TO tht)
Bro, take off them glasses.
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"highly liberal" might a push but not a big one.
the richer and ruling classes were certainly bathed in leisure and lacked grounding
it's an english learning server. but if that's not your purpose, fair enough
i ll let it go
There are many things I would love to say about specific belief systems of the western world, starting from Christianity to Liberalism
However I will just say, well because these systems lack clear limitations in certain things OR they ARE AGAINST limitations, that as a source of problem is enough
I'm kidding bro, that's my humor, sorry if made you uncomfortable
itotally agree.
capitalism having replaced religion as a primary religion, and it being a neverending quest for wealth, it leads to inevitable frustration and then frustration leads to excess
There you go, expressing what I failed to address
no, not everyone likes it. some consider their english is good enough. yours is actually better than some here
i think it was clearly implied in your comment
Well another thing which I wanted to address was the influence of capitalism on this as well, which you did for me
That clearly is visible there btw, when I went to Polska, one of the things which I was TIREDOF SEEING EVERYWHERE was pictures of male genitalia or some insults
To be fair, Poland is one THE MOST Christian countries in Europe, which I would expect to hold its values more
i think capitalism is the number one culprit. capitalism empowered science and science enables laziness.
in turn laziness causes frustration because humans were "busy" and "productive for thousands of years and all of a sudden that is gone
Well, people becoming the way they are is something natural,
However not alright from a moral perspective
If you were to ask me, from the perspective of which objective moral standpoint I look at this from, well I am a religious muslim and I look through the lenses of Islamic Morals at such
i am not entirely sure how i feel about nudity.
i think nudity in itsef isnt a problem. God/Allah created us this way and we shuld comfortable with it.
the problem is the sexualisation of it and the repressed lustful feelings that ensue
agreed
i agree with your "lense" or perspective too.
Well, tell me of this,
Which societies abuse the rights of free sex the most, is it the ones with more loose dressing standards, or those which are more conservative and against it?
Oh ur a muslim?
clearly the former, yes.
Well when that is the case, wouldn't it be smarter to avoid promoting it publicly?
IM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT DRAWING DICKS ON THE WALLS AT THIS POINT, IT IS ABOUT THE ADVERTISEMENTS OR PICTURES
I disagree
With what specifically.
unfortunately, i am not. my father was catholic and taught me my prayers and as a matter of respect i cannot convert
BUT i have always considered Islam (let's say as a culture here) as the more righteous one.
Ohh brodaa definitely liked this guy 😂
yes, absolutely. but the righteous are always a minority and minorities have little power to enforce reason
Well, we can enforce reason on ourselves and those who are subordinate to us such as our families or children
Those upon whom we have the most influence, let me state it this way
right. and hopefully that is good enough to save a few
those who dont see reason, walk towards self-destruction.
I don't know, I just randomly said it
i am surprised about what you experienced in poland though. i spent a few years in the czech republic in the late 90s and early 00s, it was not at all like that.
Couple of months ago, my boxing coach, who is an ex criminal Palestinian-Polish muslim revert had his nikah/islamic marriage
The lady, was a Tajik muslim, raised in Poland
Covering properly, not speaking loudly & trying to hide from eyes
Proving that it is ACTUALLY very possible for people to maintain morals within the society
lol
How old are you, broda 💀
To make it even, I am 19 years old
No problem with sharing
51
Dem man, and I am saying where does this wisdom come from
lol
it's not so much the age it is the experience
and actually taking time to reflect on those matters in my studies.
Absolutely
There are people in their 70s, lack the basic abilities to think like normal human beings
Oh wel, with social media, demoralisation of masses is 10 times easier
i guess you are right.
i actually left "the west" in 2010 so i have really witnessed how social media has influenced things
now, going back to the matter of moral decay.
there was a conversation here a few days ago about abortion, and before engaging into the conversation i stated my angle/perspective.
Yes?
i think the same is necessary here. yu stated your perspective,
mine is the "natural order of things"
and so from this perspective decay is inevitable
nothing lives for ever, life and all things in it go through a cycle.
Well I mean natural order of things is something that happens, well, naturally if uninterrupted
Which is the reason why we as functional human civilization, have certain belief systems, which help govern the masses
there are only two ways of interpreting it, a religious one and a pagan one.
Well, we don't have to explain this with Divine Intervention, ALTHOUGH DIVINE INTERVENTION is the best way to explain it
Let me clarify my point
here, i am not sure what Islam says about the cycle of life
please do
Human beings, although highly intellectual, have the tendency to go the "wrong" way
You have bunch of people, intelligent enough to deal with multiple responsibilities presented by life itself, yet still end up drinking alcohol, which is TOTALLY harmful, taking drugs, abusing themselves AAND their family members
When that is the case, it becomes a NECESSITY for certain limitations to be present there, set by the INDIVIDUALS themselves, as well as the state governing them for such cases not happening
AKA to keep it "civilized"
yes, in an ideal and morally governed society, but capitalism doesnt work this way
and capitalism appeals to the masses because everyone most believe in the "equal opportunity" falacy peddled by capitalists
i have a question though, how do you reconcile the way nature functions with the teachings of Islam?
and please, i am not challenging you , i am just wondering because a far as i know the only mention of the cycle of things in the christian bible is "dust to dust"
which isnt much
Well, Islam acknowledges the "animalistic" side of human beings, calling it human "nafs" or nature
It acknowledges that human beings without clear limitations, will basically follow this and get lost
That's where the Divine Intervention comes in through Islam, which sets those limitations, & show clear guidelines for what to do in those moments of "natural" temptation
One thing which I personally love about Islam is, how it touches every human endeavor unlike Christianity
You have got Islamic teachings covering marriage, family relationships, warfare, state governance, individual characteristics to maintain and etc.
Exactly, a very limited and dangerous option to follow
People who claim that capitalism is the best way to follow themselves in many parts of their lives ACTUALLY BETRAY it by choosing the options which go against it
so should i undersand that there is no idea of cycle in Islam?
not that i mind, it could be re-assuring
Interesting. Does Islam have something like christian original sin?
Could you please expand on this one please?
good question
No, although we do believe that Adam has eaten the forbidden fruit
That's not needed, Epicureanism is a thing
You are talking about someone being born with that sin or the sin itself?
Ifit is the sin, yes
But we do believe that children are born pure
So in Islam can a man be perfect by his own works?
I mean, in a lot of protestants denominations, perfection is impossible in this life
because of original sin
i dont think i need to expand, you have answered my question in your previous post.
what i meant is that nature is a perpetual cycle of life and death or transformation of elements
and by extension, mankind would come do die and somehow be reborn.
but your post answered it
Nopes, because every human commits sin at one point
That is something which makes us human, the inner desires which we have, which from time to time might overpower us
That's actually something that makes us superior to angels According to Islamic belief
Hence you accept the Oneness of Allah & follow His orders WITHOUT actually seeing Him but by using your mind and analysing things
Cuz Islam makes sense bro, for real
i like that
I think roman catholicism and greek orthodoxs differ on this issue tbh, so its not a consensus in christianity
That was one thing which I didn't understand at the time bro
Like what if a child dies without being baptized)
He goes to hell?
I understand, Catholicism is more based in the Church, whereas Orthodox Christianity is more Bible based?
I see. So sin is inherent to humans?
I'm glad it did😅
is there anything similar to baptism in Islam?
We can say so
if so, is there a salvation like in christianity?
Well, to clean oneself from sin, we have repentance which has its conditions
But as for washing oneself, we have something called "ghusl" and "wudu"
Ghusl is basically when you wash your entire body, and wudu is the cleaning we do in certain body parts of ours before prayer
I think their disagreement is more philosophical than theological per se
thanks
i concord
in protestantism, for example, only one sin makes humans so far from God that they're unable to reach Him. God itself have to attract humans to Him.
Well let me state it this way
Islamic belief states that we are created for the sole purpose of worshipping Allah
Al Quran 51:56, you can check
And worshipping Allah is not just by doing the prayer, or fasting etc.
It is your manners, the way you speak, the way you pick up a stone from the ground so that it doesn't harm people, the way you avoid staring lustfully because Allah said so, the way you smile because Allah loves it or the way you purify yourself
And of course as human beings, we do commit sin and the solution Allah has given us is basically returning to Him
With repentance, by avoiding going back to that sin, by trying to do more good deeds
Likely
there are disagreements, of course
@wispy cedar i d like to extend a big thanks you for bringing a serious and quality discussion to the room and also for sharing your knowledge.
i ahev to say i will go to bed with some form of renewed belief in at least "part" of humanity.
Oh about people going far away from Allah, let me tell this
My pleasure, brother
By Allah you getting knowledge in Islam and thinking about it in the right way is far better for me than anything above which sun rises and sets 😁 🤝
we are lucky the haters arent here though. this converrsation could have easily derailed.
thanks you
Absolutely, we can say it was purely rational
Sent the rq btw, if any more questions, please let me know
If I know, I will tell you from my own knowledge
If not, then I will look for it from those who know
Rest well
thanks , i think i am goign to retire with that good feeling and not wait for the crowd to waste that away.
wish you both a good day/night and hopefully talk to you soon again
In Islam, a person’s distance from Allah is often linked to the level of sins they commit. The more someone commits sins, the more their heart becomes hardened — as Allah mentions in the Qur’an, their hearts become like stone.
What does this mean? It means that over time, they become less sensitive to the sin itself and to wrongdoing in general.
For example, think of a child who gets shy or feels guilty after breaking a glass. Breaking a glass isn’t a big deal, but for them, it feels huge because they’re still very sensitive to what they do.
Similarly, imagine someone smoking for the first time. In the beginning, they feel uneasy and know something isn’t right. But after 100, 200, or 300 times, it becomes normal for them.
This is exactly how it works with sin: when a person repeatedly commits a sin, they slowly lose the initial guilt or discomfort, and it becomes a habit.
However, we believe that change is always possible and ultimately in the hands of Allah. Allah can guide and draw a person back to Him at any moment.
At the same time, moving away from Allah and becoming arrogant or stubborn in committing sins is a choice. It is 100% up to the person because they insist on continuing despite knowing deep inside — through the conscience that Allah has given each of us — that it is wrong.
And why is it said here that Allah purposefully sealed their hearts and ears and vision?
Surah Al-Baqarah (2:6-7)
"Indeed, those who disbelieve—it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them—they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment."
@ionic merlin hello
Selamunaleykum brother, well said
It's self explanatory
The sealing was a result of their own choices
Not random punishment
did you deploy this LLM vivek
Mecha hitler
We'll miss that grok
I totally agree with you sheik
in minecraftism, a person's distance from the Bllah is often linked to the amount of the guns they have.
Hausa 🫡
more money you have, more closer for you to the God
more guns you have, more closer for you to the God
Hey Russian what have you been up to lately?
if you have the nuke, you are the God.
That's blasphemous
If you have more than one nuke you're all the gods
This is why you worship Kim Jong Un, he has graciously spared us from nuclear war by only using nukes defensively
The Supreme Leader 😭 🇰🇵
Israel 🇮🇱
if you nuke yourself first nobody is going to nuke you again
🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳
🇹🇲🇹🇲🇹🇲
🇨🇳 🇰🇵 🇨🇳 🇰🇵
why not nuke everybody including yourself
btw for wmds we have more effective weapons than nukes
do chinese people talk about india @feral river
we don't talk about losers
every political topic between us was how the US is going, China, Russia, Ukraine, Israel
even nobody talks about Israeli Gaza or Europe
nobody seems don't know what happened in that region
well it's real
do chinese people talk about pakistan @feral river
sometimes
but not very much
there are some referrence about what Pakistan is using our fighter jet to take down Indian jets
that's awesome
if i visit china would ppl be racist or welcoming
specially when i tell them that im from pak
welcoming if you don't wear some weird stuff that would disrupt the social order
in Chinese society, I mean most cities people don't easily see a lot foreigners
when they see them they would be welcoming mostly and talk about interesting things
well no
we don't promote racism nor fascism
Tibetian people is our people and they were recognized by the state under the law
🇵🇰🇨🇳 🇵🇰🇨🇳 🇵🇰🇨🇳 🇵🇰🇨🇳
No
Could you stop this talk
if you are Tibetian and you say this in public, you will be prosecuted under the law by disrupting the social order
we don't care if they resist we will just remove them very swiftly as what you have ever see what we have done to some resistance movement
we have absolute dominant power and force nobody could stop us
I report you
the other superpowers USA or EU, the farest thing they can do something about it, was sanction which they are doing it all the time
they won't risk themselves to have war with another superpower that is nearly powerful as Soviet Union, also have nuclear weapons
How trun off this reboot
but for us, we don't have to, very urgently take them back
there's no point to do that currently
they are still Republic of China by their claim and law, they do recognize our military dominance, and we have close economic ties
okay
idc if you leave that region
but Tibet is part of the People's Republic of China, and it will be for the all time
if all of you guys leave, nobody cares
we don't care that shit lmao
dream that under our guns
🇨🇳
try to send an original tibet emoji
🤣
Lol 
No one puts effort into scamming anymore
bkeshav356 was muted.
Click on the picture, embedded attack. Only looks low effort.
Muted this animal @feral river
Abo... You're currently the only one who broke a rule here now.
Why
He is entitled to his opinions.
Looks like they are from China and like minecraft... Not offensive.
God is a common topic. We have 3 religious rooms, the vegans and FE bring up religion, P&R room exists...
So you like anyone strong
but this one was quite well, someone consider this was a nazi flag in East Asia
but it was being used by Japanese Navy till today
even I see one when I was in Japan
Money
wait let me show you something
What a dumb
When japeans kill you cry and need help
I actually been to this place
impressive
I lived in South Korea for almost a year lol
Seoul for 3 months, Busan for half of a year
He supports whoever has the money
I ever studied Judaism and even if there was a chance I'm gonna be a Jew
being a Jew you can obtain the Israeli citizenship for free

All this for $3000 per month
but unfortunately I didn't find any synagogue in East Asia, so this plan was dismissed lol
I even use email to contact the rabbi who's in Japan and he told me to go to Israel or Australia to complete the conversion
can't really do that
Be a muslim is better for you
Takbir
well yes I have a family which are all CCP members
my parents, grandparents, all CCP members
and I have a lot CCP friends
im fucking rich
Allah kabr
lmao
😭😭😭😭
Where
- Allahu Akbar
Nice
how's that possible a guy traveling all over East Asia, staying Korea for a year and on vacation in Japan
Minecraft is rich by Chinese standards probably
I think he's only stupid in English, he probably does well for himself in Mandarin and in China
have you ever see the gold bar I bought
I ever posted here
yeah I have that shit
lmao I'm a ethereum developer
I ever developed a plugin that would allow you to connect blockchain from minecraft
wanna see my github ?
I don't
Some don't believe in god i don't respect him and believe him
it's very well developed and I received some business opportunity
earned around 6000 USD
He ignored me bc i am right
not very much I made this project in the past
I can develop ethereum smart contract well and other things
Do you eat a dog
Why not?
well, blockchain stuff I love them and I know a lot about them
even I was mining the ethereum since 2021
Don't be racist on a Jummah abo
I just asked
Ya ayyuha alladhina amanu la yaskhar qawmun min qawmin 3asa an yakunu khayran minhum
No
It being racist doesn't make it less factual, the IDF is Israel and Israel is the IDF, you're about to say "If a Muslim commits a terror attack does it make all Muslim terrorists" aren't you
well no I'm just targeting the terrorists, who created all this mess against Israel
and Israel is the most powerful country around that region
rich, prosperous, and powerful
there's no such reason I would support a loser
I'm targeting terrorists too, all Israeli citizens
then let me see how you gonna use that small town by bunch of unorganized militias against Israeli air strike and missiles
that situation would be super relaxing for me
then let me see how you gonna use that small town by bunch of unorganized militias against US air strike and missiles
Good luck in Taiwan
we got nukes if you do that we nuke everybody nobody could live
that situation would be super relaxing for me
@feral river what language do you write smart contracts in?
"Paper tiger" is a calque of the Chinese phrase zhǐlǎohǔ (simplified Chinese: 纸老虎; traditional Chinese: 紙老虎). The term refers to something or someone that claims or appears to be powerful or threatening but is actually ineffectual and unable to withstand challenge.
The expression became well known internationally as a slogan used ...
solidity
Ethereum only?
The nukes with water as fuel?
well yes
You're specialized in eth I see
you are free to believe that until that drops to somewhere
Did you go to a university to study software
and you will see
Or you learnt the coding yourself
im uneducated
I learned it myself
Your strongest ally Russia isn't able to handle Ukranian farmers, what makes you think you'd stand a chance against the US
Is solidity the only lang you know?
I'm relapsing to this channel
java
Like the one you're expert in
It calls to me
python
Yea I was gonna ask that lol
sql, js
Bro....
any other shit ? well none probably
Damn youre a software engineer
oh and php
This China guy thinks Chinese jets are better than F-35💀
Just smile and wave bro
nah im a network security engineer
What about data analytics, you learnt any of that?
im on hacking for all the time when I was in the vocational collage
kali linux, nmap, metaexploit
Like tableau and power BI
well not much
How did you learn all this
You seem smart
All of a sudden 
I even obtained a 3rd prize of winning the city contest about hacking
3rd lol
You mean a Hackathon?
yeah a hackathon but a mini one
Bro beat the 100 million people in his small city
I'm coping with this sleepless night by listening to yeat
Does this job pay good or are you just generationally rich
this was nothing btw a city contest is where you launch this shit you definitely win it
That's a village bro
because this was not launched by my collage so I only did 3rd
if it was I would be 1st
but that doesn't even matter if I got the 1st
So You go to a college
special one
Tsinghua university huh
a collage that your test paper are not qualified to go into a high school
I would love to get a scholarship there
vocational collage
so it's a very bad collage that there's no any nice people and people who have good grades
So did your job make you rich ?
no im naturally rich, but I earn some money by myself make me rich even more
a middle class to be specific
not very rich
Middle class isn't rich
You might be upper middle class
well yeah
I also love to invest things
investment was my fav part of the wealth management
even the gold I invested since 2023 the price doubled
lol
Should I study finance and accountancy in college
you should invest in your brain I guess
I never studied that piece of shit
Dafuq
but I know almost every section of how economy works
the inflation, deflation, interest rate, money supplies, productivity
that led to capitalism, communism, fascism
Okay so what's the formula for calculating earning per share
EPS formula tell me
well let me think about it
earning per share ? you mean the earning you got from each share ?
the dividend rate ?
Well let me Google about it 
Yea the money every shareholder is earning
well that doesn't make sense if that was the dividends only
oh I see it on google it was about company audit shit
I learned nothing about it I mean general economy
Just divide your net income by the number of shares 
wait I ever see this
didn't I just used this factor to select which stocks have better performance
lmao that was EPS
Dang really
I know what EPS is but I don't know it was earning for share 🤣
I was confused
So you only have the specific understanding of these things not the underlying technicalities
im all on experience ofc i would become like that
What're you investing in currently
I hate theory training those are totally indoctrination
Yea that's how ppl in corporate America work
Any American stocks
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You hold onto them for short term?
very long term
I already earned dividends and pay 10% dividend taxes to IRS for almost 2 years
Just sell the stonk vro 
I still earn 90% because I'm Chinese citizen
if you are other citizens without tax reduction treaty, you gonna pay 30% as standard rate
that's well documented
Wow
I like the color pink
Damn that's the reason u choose
Ur so girly bro
lmao but I don't really do that very frequent
sometimes I dress like a girl and hang out with my friends
Why are u trans?
im not a trans
im just a guy who used to be like a girl and enjoy the life
that's my FREEDOM 🇺🇸
but im a guy
Oh great how did you learn fluent English
not so fluent I guess ? I learn english from my american friedns
we play minecraft and we rule the server
then I have to organize things and figure out something that was required to know to a certain extent of the english
then I started to talk about some stupid shit
then I become what I was right now
I didn't even try to learn it
It means practical knowledge is better than books
I don't read books I hate them
every time I see books I goes sleepy
im a terrible student too lmao
Oh how many languages do you speak
not much Chinese, English, Japanese
and I can read Korean
I don’t play smps
I join other server, kill the people, loot all of the stuff which is available
And use these to got more weapons and armor then rule the people in the resource area
Tax them, that’s all what im doing
I never work, but im always rich
Not u ur parents
Oh yeah? Why do U have broky profile then
Mod role Saimon
Bottom text
And in another verse Allah states that arrogance had taken over them and they insist in wrong doing of theirs despite the rule of Allah being clear for them
And Allah sealed their hearts
@ashen jasper Wa alaikum assalam
Kardeş
cap
The Deep State's influence is growing 
I disagree
feel free 😹
I'm bored...

Say something controversial and you'll have everyone's attention
It will be entertaining
Do U think I am gay?
He/Him with anime pfp
It's more than likely that you might be based on the previous message
He/him doesn't prove anything I still can be a creep in real life especially pm
What's your point bro💀💀💀
Come pm
Like come on bro
:b
Does it help you sleep though
To much ngl
I can't send images 😔
For some reason
But U can see my comment there
Honored...

That's a mood.
@formal pilot answer
this is part of the investigation
My mum
People who are well adjusted
just let em be
looking to sow dissent again?
the crowds are waiting to pounce.
the LGBTQSLHRV+ (i think they have appropriated the whole alphabet but i cant remember in what order) is a socially interesting topic.
i think political correctness and the fact people shy away from conflict/debate does greatly influence their answer to this question.
its officially LGBTQQICAPF2K+
there was a survey recently in ireland that claimed over 65% of the population was favorable to the ALPHABET+ agenda.
although, ireland is a very modern and forward looking country, it does seem like a very high proportion of the population.
the report did not include the source and methodology, nor the the precise wording of the question that was asked so it is difficult to interpret the validity of the study.
still, i am of the opinion that if people were to answer this question in completely cnfidential conditions and the wording made them feel completely free to answer objectively and truthfully, most people would answer it is not natural.
regardless of the fact that homosexuality is well documented in nature and throughout humans history.
then, of course the simple argument is "nature is one thing but humans like to think of themselves as better than animals so using nature as an argument is highly hypocritical."
thanks. lol
i do expect it to grow to its full 26 letter potential by the end of the century.
then think of it, they could go with the russian alphabet and add a few more letters...

what’s wrong to be a LGBT member
They have the freedom to be whatever they want
Man
For day to day you approved to me you are crazy person
Is it okay to dislike LGBTQHIV+ just because you hate men kissing men
Also I feel it's wrong cuz of religious reasons
It's nobody's right to dictate someone else's preference.
I'm gonna dictate my son's preference
It's also nobody's right to tell you can't disagree with it.
I ain't making him gay
I've talked to many LGBTQHIV people and they seem to be insecure about their identity
For example a gay guy secretly hated other gays
And a trans man got offended when I said that he can't impregnate a woman
I think the T part is a whole other thing
Is it people like me who have made it an insecurity to talk about queerness

But still the thing is why can't they stay straight their whole lives. I would like to understand how they feel if they just try to maintain a straight life
i think you have a point when you bring up the idea of "insecurity"
choosing homosexuality could well be for may a way to form an identity whether or not they actually feel attracted to the same sex to start with
And how does being attracted to the same gender make sense
You got a lock and key model stick to that
i lived in brazil in 1997-98, the "head" of the gay association of belo-horizonte at the time was a friend of my girlfriend's
(lock is for female key is for male)
I think this is based on the idea that making babies must happen.
I would like to say that sex is for reproduction and reproduction is only possible by natural method, which is between a male and a female
he was adamant he was born like this and so on.
his story had signs of abuse and it was clear that having been abused he had then decided it was really himself in order to win over the "uncertainty"
he then moved to australia to finish his PhD, came back married to a woman 4 years later and said he had been wrong all along
i agree but this is what he and many other homosexuals say
And I find it absurd
I think everyone is born everything.
i am just quoting them.
Gender diversity is a PROPAGANDA to destroy family system
Imagine if you can't have the same institution of family you would submit yourself directly TO THE STATE
If you raised a group of 5 boys ans 5 girls secluded from society I think it would naturally result in majority bisexuality
i am not entirely sure there is such agenda behind it, but i agree it is propaganda
that's an interesting experiment to be had...
If you stop family you get loyal government slaves
but i think an important point here is to look at he "Basic psychology" angle
fair comment
it could be one of the tools
If there's nothing like society or religion dictating people will probably do what is pleasurable
I've heard Minecraft say the exactly opposite thing
yes, that does actually sound pertinent
What the hell
We agree 
but, pleasure is dictated by basic chemical systems, hormones
and a male is naturally more receptive to a female's hormones and vice-versa
only half
LGBTQ ppl are being played by the state, they think they're being given their rights. But actually the state is crumbling their family system
Imagine a gay family
You got two men living together who just die without any lineage
You don't need a lineage
becuase i am not sure your comment actually applies to sexual pleasure which , as i just said, is partly at least, dictated by hormones
This is not you this is THE GOVERNMENT speaking
I don't know enough to comment on that side of it.
that would be great but increasingly, governments allow them access to adoption and artificial insemination with women willing for a fee
In 10.000 years everything you or your family have done will not be known
It's futility
Korea. LGBTQ not really allowed. Okay, but not talk. Crime sometimes. Do not understand why. Human we are all. Hating is not way to heaven. Teachings say. Love. Respect.
Which is why we need children so they can carry our heritage for the next 10000 years
For what purpose
Lol artificial remedies
First u reject the natural system of male female marriage and then you pay a woman to bear your kid
back to basic psychology influencing one's perception of their sexual orientation:
media give a diproportionate amount of space/air time to the LGBTWASJDGASI+ community
Whereas you could've brought forward a beautiful family in which the kid actually got love from his father and his mother
that means young people being more expose and actually ingesting the possibility of them "being"
Other person choices, we do not need. Why bother?
hey, noone said those people had much logical abilty
totally.
