#🧠|serious-chat

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muted raft
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There are lots of ways to reduce plastic, but this is a marriage. You're the husband but your word is not law

dark citrus
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what does Ahalya mean?

versed edge
muted raft
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There is definitely an ethical compromise that can be made here.

ionic merlin
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no, we had come to an agreement as to the types of gifts that were acceptable. as in natural materials. and she said she had let people know about it.

ionic merlin
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correct

muted raft
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Ok, so whats the problem then?

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That's a great decision, is the problem that she accepted the wrong gift one time?

turbid dome
ionic merlin
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no, i wasnt "mad" about it. at first i just pointed it out but she went on to make a fuss about it.

muted raft
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I agree

dark citrus
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@light girder i did not see that a collision was going on
i just saw your name

muted raft
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What do you mean by fuss?

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Darn women and their hormones am I right?

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
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yes, i am sure she did forget. but as i said. i did point it out and then she just went crazy.

muted raft
uncut tiger
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this LLM is just ragebaiting at this point

muted raft
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I'm dumb, what is LLM?

uncut tiger
ionic merlin
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lol, me? we ve got a camera in the livingroom, i can send you the footage and you ll see that i wasnt here at the computer and just pointed it out nicely

uncut tiger
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and troll in a subtle manner

muted raft
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@ionic merlin is trolling fr

ionic merlin
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this is pointless.

muted raft
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you don't understand sarcasm

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and think your hormonal wife needs to learn her place

muted raft
ionic merlin
muted raft
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how?

ionic merlin
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read what you wrote and explain the sarcasm part.

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past, sarcasm, then switch to present?

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would imply the following is not.

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well, obviously, talking to non-native speakers of english is an issue.

muted raft
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I said "woman should know their place" you said the reason you took that seriously is because there are children in the chat

muted raft
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then I said, "darn woman and their hormones" and you agreed

versed edge
muted raft
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Yes you did. You said "it may be hormones, she's pregnant again"

ionic merlin
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which is what i did.

muted raft
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how is that disagreeing with me?

ionic merlin
muted raft
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I agree. But he should also stop chalking up all her feelings to, "its just hormones"

ionic merlin
muted raft
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you never answered my question

ionic merlin
muted raft
turbid dome
ionic merlin
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how far does one go with being accommodating before one's actions become irresponsible?

muted raft
ionic merlin
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take it easy she is at most a few weeks pregnant, not like she under any sort of pressure.
she was under pressure from her family to get pregnant

ionic merlin
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you are misunderstanding

muted raft
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Especially if its from her mother and its already been sent to you

ionic merlin
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"when she wants to" as in never. she spends most of her time on her phone.

ionic merlin
muted raft
thorny steeple
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We found a competitor for Isfrun

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Lol

muted raft
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Im dumb, whats Isfarun?

ionic merlin
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lol , well then they should all be listening to me. my wife is 19 years younger. and her parents are just a couple of years older than me, so your argument doesnt hold

muted raft
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WHAT

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Thats weird dude. She's 19 years younger than you?

ionic merlin
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yes, because she is trying very hard to keep me here

thorny steeple
muted raft
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Me?

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
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because ahalya brought up the age argument

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which here is not valid

muted raft
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oh i see

ionic merlin
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you guys really need to learn to read. this is becoming ridiculous.

dark citrus
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hi guys what are you doing?

muted raft
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SO MUCH

ionic merlin
dark citrus
muted raft
ionic merlin
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your assumptions are nowhere close

dark citrus
muted raft
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He's definitely trolling, but I reeeeeally want to win this one

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
muted raft
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?

ionic merlin
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so what's your argument?

muted raft
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are you 60?

ionic merlin
muted raft
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@Ahalya I think we've been played

ionic merlin
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lol, well thats a non-starter then.

muted raft
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naw he's 15, we've been played

ionic merlin
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no, you ve already decided you know what and who i am, which is funny enough in itself.

ionic merlin
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all that gives a decent clue as to the level of the place

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as in?

muted raft
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Okk, give us a bulleted list of exactly what has happened with your wife and exactly why you're upset with her. Then you can't use the "everyone can't read" excuse

ionic merlin
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whatever actually happened, you are going to dismiss that plastic pollution is an issue and then will just give her full credit because she "might" be pregnant.

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which she hasnt even tested yet, so it doesnt seem to worry her much

muted raft
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN "MIGHT BE PREGNANT" YOU LITERALLY SAID EARLIER THAT SHE WAS PREGNANT

ionic merlin
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she is usually right on top of it when she thinks she is.

ionic merlin
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i saidyou guys cant read

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there lies the reeal problem.

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i am very careful with grammar , i wouldnt right "she is pregnant" knowing this hasnt been comfirmed.
that said, apparently i am 15 so clearly none of that can be true.

muted raft
high raven
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What's going on

muted raft
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We got trolled lol

ionic merlin
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right, there is a misplaced comma there

muted raft
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I believed this guy had a wife he was, "trying to talk sense into" but he's actually just here to troll everyone

muted raft
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And now that I get that he's trolling, I'm enjoying it!

ionic merlin
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you guys are dangerously inept.

ionic merlin
muted raft
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You're right. Back to the kitchens I go! My husband needs a sandwich

ionic merlin
muted raft
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no, I literally just told you. My husband needs a sandwich

ionic merlin
muted raft
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So I have to go get him one

thorny steeple
muted raft
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Thank you I try

ionic merlin
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the world is in good hands with you lot.

muted raft
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lol @ionic merlin clearly does not know how to read.

thorny steeple
muted raft
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I just said I was off to get my huband a sandwich

high raven
ionic merlin
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but dont ask me, i am the troll, ask the almighty crowd.
it is a well known fact that crowds are usually right

muted raft
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Correct. But also, he said earlier that his wife was pregnant, then said she still hasn't been tested yet. That's how I know he's 15

ionic merlin
muted raft
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correct again!

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My husband doesn't like it when I go out in public

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Which is fine by me because I'm a hoorible driver

ionic merlin
muted raft
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that doesn't even make sense lol

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good night!

ionic merlin
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oh no...

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that's a measly 50% accurate. not going to get far with that.

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but i think pointed out the inacurrcies would be pointless since the crowd has already passed judgement

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there was no fight, the agreement preceded the "incident", she is the one who hopes and contemplates being pregnant

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she surmises and i wrote "could well be she is pregnant again" because you brought up hormones (so much for calling me sexist)

high raven
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I'm so confused

ionic merlin
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right

high raven
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How are you guys focusing on the pregnancy part and not the sending a machine gun by mail part😭😭😭

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
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true. we often send fruits from here to relatives in other parts of the country, inter-city, we manage to gets packages in under 24h

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thats right. and it is good of you to acknowledge it now, albeit belatedly.

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people keep making assumptions just based on gender but there is a lot more to it than gender

high raven
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I understand what Minecraft means now by "I hold the guns"

ionic merlin
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i met a guy who served two years for ordering one online.

prisma cipher
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It say.. any statistics

feral river
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gun control in here is super strict lol

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but I hold the guns because I have the money to go outside and take a gun

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and I have the stocks of the gun manufacture companies when they produce guns and bombs I take the profit

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and they use them to bomb the terrorists

bleak nacelle
formal pilot
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I disagree

prisma cipher
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Cat memes always win

formal pilot
bleak nacelle
ionic merlin
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i dont think they ignore the fact, in fact in the UK vegans (i am only vegetarian myself) commonly denounce the practice.

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the real questions is: why do most vegan not boycott phrmaceitcals as a whole?

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well pointed and i do find it hypocritical.

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i consume dairy products but i dont use any sort of drugs/medicines

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and i cant say i feel any worsse for it.

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so it is possible to live well and fairly painlessly without modern drugs and medicine.

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but most people (and vegans belong to the most people) are scared of pain and death.

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my view on dairy farming is biased though.

thorny steeple
coral belfry
thorny steeple
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I am lazy to do that

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Right you're quidnunc

coral belfry
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you dont even need to download it

thorny steeple
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Probably translate will be wrong

coral belfry
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but actually its not that bad

ionic merlin
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technology, amazing.

high raven
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Wrong

thorny steeple
versed edge
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We've had cancer for a long time, but it wasn't something diagnosed or understood.

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Cancer wasn't invented what.

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There's a lot of factors, lower population, lower age of mortality so it didn't develop in a lot of people.

But it did exist

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Which was the point I was protesting there.

manic juniper
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He wasted his time then, Stalin was achieving that pretty well

ionic merlin
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there many elements that cause cancer, not just food additives

uncut tiger
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You were warned in The English Hub for ---- Hey, we heard that you had mocked a user because of an older discussion. Please try not to do that and respect the opinions of others, even if they don't agree with yours. Thank you and have a great stay on the server.

What the hell guys kekk

uncut tiger
manic juniper
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I want to be reported too

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Someone tried that apparently but without success

ionic merlin
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road side dwellers have a higher rate of cancer for reasons not connected to food.

ionic merlin
versed edge
ionic merlin
manic juniper
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Done, now what

versed edge
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Not true. There's no link.

manic juniper
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There is toothpaste in my toothpaste

versed edge
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I know, but it's not linked to cancer. There's plenty of studies on the link of fluoride and cancer.

ionic merlin
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dupont de nemours paid over 900 million USD in compensation to victims in the US

ionic merlin
versed edge
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Studies literally say the opposite. This has been heavily researched for a long time. Please don't believe the drivel of american politicians.

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Or you'll start injecting ethanol to cure covid.

ionic merlin
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to be fair , i am sure their other ingredients in toothpaste that could also be responsible

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but fluoride is one of them indeed

ionic merlin
versed edge
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Yes RFK the biggest buffoon in American politics. Funny how you scrolled past all the actual credible sources to screenshot that.

ionic merlin
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i think you are wasting your time. i have seen him/her in action earlier.

manic juniper
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Bro linked sources against his claim

ionic merlin
manic juniper
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"No primary link between bone cancer and fluoride in 12 of 14 studies"

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It's literally in your screenshot

ionic merlin
manic juniper
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"There is little evidence fluoride is harmful or causes cancer"

ionic merlin
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not exactly like shooting himself in the foot

manic juniper
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Which it isn't

ionic merlin
thorny steeple
manic juniper
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Don't care I want to see the link

ionic merlin
manic juniper
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A CNN article is as much of a scientific paper as this copypasta I'm about to send

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Pooping for Vader is pretty simple. A rectal cathodrone model E5-UX1 was surgically implanted by Ubrikkian prototype DD-13 and once inserted, held in place by servo-activated elasto-meric alloy spikes. Elasto-meric alloys are guaranteed corrosion-free for two hundred years, but due to budgetary restrictions the Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center had to make the rest of the cathodrone out of Duranium steel which isn't normally used in such devices. As a result, a new one had to be painfully replaced and re-spiked into locked position every 6 months.

ionic merlin
manic juniper
ionic merlin
versed edge
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The moon is flat. How did the Americans land on it?

ionic merlin
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still, do any of you deny the dupont the nemours lawsuite and the 900 million they paid in compensation to victimes in the U.S.?

versed edge
ionic merlin
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leukemia and testicular cancer were the main two types

manic juniper
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Deny deez

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
versed edge
manic juniper
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You see, nowhere in that study it says "fluoride doesn't cause nuclear explosions" do you not believe that USA dropped two fluoride bombs on Japan in WW2

ionic merlin
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the terms of the agreement with victims was that no blame would be apotioned and the agent was renamed C8 something i think.

versed edge
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I googled for a surface level search because it's not something I'm aware of but all information I could see talked about general contaminations.

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But link the lawsuit please

ionic merlin
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in PFAS, the F stands for fluoride

versed edge
ionic merlin
versed edge
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Contain fluorine based compound. Sure.

ionic merlin
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alright, clearly you dont want to be wrong.
you ll make up any sort of excuse

versed edge
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But contain fluoride, no.

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Bread is a carbohydrate. Coal is carbon. Bread contains Coal.

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That's your argument right now.

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I eat a brick every day.

manic juniper
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I once woke up under an extinguished bonfire and I was covered in coal and ashes

thorny steeple
ionic merlin
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At physiological pHs, hydrogen fluoride is usually fully ionised to fluoride.

versed edge
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I've seen charcoal activated toothpaste but never used it

ionic merlin
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In biochemistry, fluoride and hydrogen fluoride are equivalent. Fluorine, in the form of fluoride, is considered to be a micronutrient for human health

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meaning fluorine is the basic element in fluoride

versed edge
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Again I refer you to my bread and coal analogy

ionic merlin
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so if fluorine is contained in fluoride so if fluorine is linken to cancer, chances are...

ionic merlin
versed edge
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Or I can do a simple search which clearly shows that fluoride is not in PFAS

ionic merlin
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no, its the other way around

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pointless,
are you chinese?

feral river
versed edge
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Any simple search online shows you that fluoride is not in PFAS. Just look for yourself

feral river
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cancer is basically formed by chances whether you have high exposure to something that cause cells mutation which would increase the chance for you to got a cancer

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even a normal person without doing anything, averagely we generate 1000 cancer cells everyday

ionic merlin
feral river
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a cancer is established when there's a cancer cell that is mutated enough powerful against your immune system while could survive under your body's condition

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they are super powerful because under the nature of the natural selection only by very few chances such cancer cell would appear

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but once they were well formed, and are able to fight against your body system, you are going to dead

fresh flower
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Hiii :3

versed edge
feral river
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it's not virus or bacteria which is the invaders of your body which you are able to eliminate them as a whole, the cancer cell is formed in your body

fresh flower
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I can't get cancer, I hold the gun

feral river
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and they are super easy to mutate under natural selection which probably win against every section of your body system that could prevent them from regeneration

ionic merlin
feral river
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it's just by time and chances, once enough time is provided, everybody would got a cancer lol

ionic merlin
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PFAS do not contain fluoride, they are used in the production of fluoride though

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do you get the difference or are you really thick?

feral river
ionic merlin
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you are looking at the problem from the wrong end, do get it?

feral river
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if you don't have the gun either you gonna heal yourself give tons of your money to these assh and even by that they don't anything probably

ionic merlin
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it's like saying "flour doesnt contain bread"
sounds mightiy clever, doesnt it?

fresh flower
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What's with the flouride topic

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Who isn't brushing their teeth?

feral river
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you can order somebody to brush your teeth

ionic merlin
fresh flower
feral river
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show it

fresh flower
feral river
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if you don't have the gun you bi zui

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got it ?

versed edge
fresh flower
versed edge
feral river
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I hold the gun, I can do anything

versed edge
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But it did successfully derail the discussion.

fresh flower
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Biggest cause of cancer is stress, idk what science says, nothing ruins your health more than stress

ionic merlin
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because in small doses it is not a big deal, and it has a half-life of just a couple of hours or so. so it degrades quickly and gets absorbed but in large quantities, the stomach doesnt contain enough acidic agents to degrade it all and if it is not ingseted (other forms of exposure), then it can be dangerous

coral belfry
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i think non of you really know what cancer is. tomsip

ionic merlin
feral river
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I already explained how cancer works lmao

versed edge
feral river
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they really think cancer was something super hard to understand it seems

fresh flower
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I'm microdosing my future child with plastic so they build up a tolerance and don't get massive side effects from just being alive once they grow older

coral belfry
ionic merlin
feral river
versed edge
ionic merlin
versed edge
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A part of PFAS stems from fluorine, but it is not made from Fluoride

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You're confusing the two

ionic merlin
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no, you are telling me there is no bread in flour, i cant argue with that

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but that s besides the point

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there is flour in bread

versed edge
ionic merlin
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and there is PFAS IN FLUORIDE

manic juniper
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Literally misquoting

versed edge
ionic merlin
ionic merlin
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what is wrong with this guy?

coral belfry
fresh flower
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I've seen gnomes irl

coral belfry
fresh flower
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Ask Isfrun if you don't believe me

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My buddy Alex was abducted by them, he said they probed him

manic juniper
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I've never seen gnomes, I don't think they exist

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Maahiset however, those are very real

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Unfortunately endangered after the Great Abduction of 1983

ionic merlin
fresh flower
manic juniper
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The maahiset look different

coral belfry
manic juniper
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I guess gnomes may exist but their niche is filled by the maahiset, and they can't live in Finland

ionic merlin
manic juniper
ionic merlin
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shocking

manic juniper
coral belfry
ionic merlin
manic juniper
coral belfry
manic juniper
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They're small people who live in the forest and bogs, they are invisible most of the times and they abuse metsänpeitto to imprison whoever disrespects their home

fresh flower
manic juniper
fresh flower
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All gnomes were created equal under God

manic juniper
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Also they aren't fit most of the times

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The maahiset are quite physically fit

fresh flower
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You're being gnomist

manic juniper
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Gnomes would be genocided under a maahiset regime

ionic merlin
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he wanted to get reported earlier

manic juniper
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Maybe they belong to the same clade but they're not a species or genus of gnome

ionic merlin
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that is ground for report

fresh flower
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Did you just misgender Isfrun😱😱😱

manic juniper
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Ever since elf numbers are dwindling the Joulu Goat started kidnapping maahiset too

ionic merlin
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a finnish girl?

manic juniper
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Now many forests are left empty and they are forced to work in Greenland

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No one cares about what's happening in Greenland

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It's too far from most people's view

fresh flower
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Pentti Linkola was right all along, if we left the forests alone this wouldn't have happened

fresh flower
manic juniper
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I'm sure Urho Kekkonen made a deal with the Joulu Goat to allow this to happen

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They say Nordic countries aren't corrupt, what about this. Literally enabling genocide

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
manic juniper
ionic merlin
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i think...

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so if i am "ranskalainen" and someone inverts the "s" and the "k" by mistake, am i at risk of getting infected with orks?

balmy garnet
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Okay, may I ask, is it about Finnish?

ionic merlin
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it's about lore in general.

balmy garnet
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Or anything related?

balmy garnet
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I just saw some Finnish phrases

ionic merlin
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but it's very much about keeping oneself entertained being silly

balmy garnet
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Well tbh I excel in this area

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But nvm

ionic merlin
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so what do you make of the fact that butter and moondust rarely meet?

sweet wolf
plush surge
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Hello guys ! Do you want to develop yourself personally? Contact me 🙂

fresh flower
ionic merlin
sweet wolf
ionic merlin
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does sure look like it.
evolution is a thing of the past.

wispy cedar
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Dem, THERE IS ACTUALLY A SERIOUS CHAT OPTION??

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Opinions on moral decaying of the western countries

ionic merlin
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sounds like a good topic

ionic merlin
wispy cedar
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All cool with me 💪🏻

ionic merlin
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now the first question would be "decay" relative to what/when?

ionic merlin
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tp spme extent western culture as long been "corrupt"

wispy cedar
ionic merlin
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(think sbout or reflect on)

wispy cedar
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Does it sound as smart, that is what concerns me the most 🤓

ionic merlin
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right, that seems fair. decadence could be said to have started after the first world war.

ionic merlin
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and i think it is often said that the war was a factor

wispy cedar
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I align the reasons with highly liberal stances of the states , what say u on that?

ionic merlin
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most of the "west" witnessed the horrors of the war and it led to some loss of belief in the good of humanity for some and a quest for pleasure

wispy cedar
# ionic merlin and i think it is often said that the war was a factor

There has always been wars in human history, why specifically this one?

I would say the main change happened with the development of such ideologies from 19th century with the end of the Napoleonic Era

Never considered myself as a fan of western values, though respect some old ones of them

However these modern standpoints people try to reflect on their morals is just too much

ionic merlin
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(what say you TO tht)

wispy cedar
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Bro, take off them glasses.

sharp thunder
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If you're interested in having a good faith honest discussion about the earth and all of the flat water come check us in the 24/7 Flat Earth Discord guestroom Voice channel. Good on you all. 🙏

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
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i ll let it go

wispy cedar
wispy cedar
ionic merlin
wispy cedar
ionic merlin
ionic merlin
wispy cedar
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That clearly is visible there btw, when I went to Polska, one of the things which I was TIREDOF SEEING EVERYWHERE was pictures of male genitalia or some insults

To be fair, Poland is one THE MOST Christian countries in Europe, which I would expect to hold its values more

ionic merlin
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i think capitalism is the number one culprit. capitalism empowered science and science enables laziness.
in turn laziness causes frustration because humans were "busy" and "productive for thousands of years and all of a sudden that is gone

wispy cedar
ionic merlin
ionic merlin
wispy cedar
wispy cedar
wispy cedar
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Well when that is the case, wouldn't it be smarter to avoid promoting it publicly?

IM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT DRAWING DICKS ON THE WALLS AT THIS POINT, IT IS ABOUT THE ADVERTISEMENTS OR PICTURES

formal pilot
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I disagree

wispy cedar
ionic merlin
# wispy cedar Oh ur a muslim?

unfortunately, i am not. my father was catholic and taught me my prayers and as a matter of respect i cannot convert
BUT i have always considered Islam (let's say as a culture here) as the more righteous one.

wispy cedar
ionic merlin
wispy cedar
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Those upon whom we have the most influence, let me state it this way

ionic merlin
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those who dont see reason, walk towards self-destruction.

formal pilot
ionic merlin
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i am surprised about what you experienced in poland though. i spent a few years in the czech republic in the late 90s and early 00s, it was not at all like that.

wispy cedar
# ionic merlin right. and hopefully that is good enough to save a few

Couple of months ago, my boxing coach, who is an ex criminal Palestinian-Polish muslim revert had his nikah/islamic marriage

The lady, was a Tajik muslim, raised in Poland

Covering properly, not speaking loudly & trying to hide from eyes

Proving that it is ACTUALLY very possible for people to maintain morals within the society

ionic merlin
wispy cedar
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To make it even, I am 19 years old

No problem with sharing

ionic merlin
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51

wispy cedar
ionic merlin
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lol

ionic merlin
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and actually taking time to reflect on those matters in my studies.

wispy cedar
wispy cedar
ionic merlin
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now, going back to the matter of moral decay.

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there was a conversation here a few days ago about abortion, and before engaging into the conversation i stated my angle/perspective.

wispy cedar
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Yes?

ionic merlin
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i think the same is necessary here. yu stated your perspective,

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mine is the "natural order of things"

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and so from this perspective decay is inevitable

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nothing lives for ever, life and all things in it go through a cycle.

wispy cedar
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Which is the reason why we as functional human civilization, have certain belief systems, which help govern the masses

ionic merlin
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there are only two ways of interpreting it, a religious one and a pagan one.

wispy cedar
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Well, we don't have to explain this with Divine Intervention, ALTHOUGH DIVINE INTERVENTION is the best way to explain it

Let me clarify my point

ionic merlin
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here, i am not sure what Islam says about the cycle of life

wispy cedar
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Human beings, although highly intellectual, have the tendency to go the "wrong" way

You have bunch of people, intelligent enough to deal with multiple responsibilities presented by life itself, yet still end up drinking alcohol, which is TOTALLY harmful, taking drugs, abusing themselves AAND their family members

When that is the case, it becomes a NECESSITY for certain limitations to be present there, set by the INDIVIDUALS themselves, as well as the state governing them for such cases not happening

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AKA to keep it "civilized"

ionic merlin
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and capitalism appeals to the masses because everyone most believe in the "equal opportunity" falacy peddled by capitalists

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i have a question though, how do you reconcile the way nature functions with the teachings of Islam?

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and please, i am not challenging you , i am just wondering because a far as i know the only mention of the cycle of things in the christian bible is "dust to dust"

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which isnt much

wispy cedar
# ionic merlin here, i am not sure what Islam says about the cycle of life

Well, Islam acknowledges the "animalistic" side of human beings, calling it human "nafs" or nature

It acknowledges that human beings without clear limitations, will basically follow this and get lost

That's where the Divine Intervention comes in through Islam, which sets those limitations, & show clear guidelines for what to do in those moments of "natural" temptation

One thing which I personally love about Islam is, how it touches every human endeavor unlike Christianity

You have got Islamic teachings covering marriage, family relationships, warfare, state governance, individual characteristics to maintain and etc.

wispy cedar
ionic merlin
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not that i mind, it could be re-assuring

safe geode
wispy cedar
wispy cedar
manic juniper
wispy cedar
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You are talking about someone being born with that sin or the sin itself?

Ifit is the sin, yes

But we do believe that children are born pure

safe geode
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I mean, in a lot of protestants denominations, perfection is impossible in this life

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because of original sin

ionic merlin
# wispy cedar Could you please expand on this one please?

i dont think i need to expand, you have answered my question in your previous post.
what i meant is that nature is a perpetual cycle of life and death or transformation of elements
and by extension, mankind would come do die and somehow be reborn.
but your post answered it

wispy cedar
# safe geode So in Islam can a man be perfect by his own works?

Nopes, because every human commits sin at one point

That is something which makes us human, the inner desires which we have, which from time to time might overpower us

That's actually something that makes us superior to angels According to Islamic belief

Hence you accept the Oneness of Allah & follow His orders WITHOUT actually seeing Him but by using your mind and analysing things

Cuz Islam makes sense bro, for real

safe geode
wispy cedar
# ionic merlin i like that

That was one thing which I didn't understand at the time bro

Like what if a child dies without being baptized)

He goes to hell?

wispy cedar
manic juniper
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Only in Catholicism

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He goes to limbo, the gates of hell

safe geode
ionic merlin
wispy cedar
ionic merlin
wispy cedar
# ionic merlin is there anything similar to baptism in Islam?

Well, to clean oneself from sin, we have repentance which has its conditions

But as for washing oneself, we have something called "ghusl" and "wudu"

Ghusl is basically when you wash your entire body, and wudu is the cleaning we do in certain body parts of ours before prayer

safe geode
safe geode
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in protestantism, for example, only one sin makes humans so far from God that they're unable to reach Him. God itself have to attract humans to Him.

wispy cedar
# ionic merlin if so, is there a salvation like in christianity?

Well let me state it this way

Islamic belief states that we are created for the sole purpose of worshipping Allah

Al Quran 51:56, you can check

And worshipping Allah is not just by doing the prayer, or fasting etc.

It is your manners, the way you speak, the way you pick up a stone from the ground so that it doesn't harm people, the way you avoid staring lustfully because Allah said so, the way you smile because Allah loves it or the way you purify yourself

And of course as human beings, we do commit sin and the solution Allah has given us is basically returning to Him

With repentance, by avoiding going back to that sin, by trying to do more good deeds

safe geode
ionic merlin
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@wispy cedar i d like to extend a big thanks you for bringing a serious and quality discussion to the room and also for sharing your knowledge.
i ahev to say i will go to bed with some form of renewed belief in at least "part" of humanity.

wispy cedar
wispy cedar
ionic merlin
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we are lucky the haters arent here though. this converrsation could have easily derailed.

wispy cedar
wispy cedar
# ionic merlin thanks you

Sent the rq btw, if any more questions, please let me know

If I know, I will tell you from my own knowledge

If not, then I will look for it from those who know

Rest well

ionic merlin
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thanks , i think i am goign to retire with that good feeling and not wait for the crowd to waste that away.

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wish you both a good day/night and hopefully talk to you soon again

wispy cedar
# wispy cedar Oh about people going far away from Allah, let me tell this

In Islam, a person’s distance from Allah is often linked to the level of sins they commit. The more someone commits sins, the more their heart becomes hardened — as Allah mentions in the Qur’an, their hearts become like stone.

What does this mean? It means that over time, they become less sensitive to the sin itself and to wrongdoing in general.

For example, think of a child who gets shy or feels guilty after breaking a glass. Breaking a glass isn’t a big deal, but for them, it feels huge because they’re still very sensitive to what they do.

Similarly, imagine someone smoking for the first time. In the beginning, they feel uneasy and know something isn’t right. But after 100, 200, or 300 times, it becomes normal for them.

This is exactly how it works with sin: when a person repeatedly commits a sin, they slowly lose the initial guilt or discomfort, and it becomes a habit.

However, we believe that change is always possible and ultimately in the hands of Allah. Allah can guide and draw a person back to Him at any moment.

At the same time, moving away from Allah and becoming arrogant or stubborn in committing sins is a choice. It is 100% up to the person because they insist on continuing despite knowing deep inside — through the conscience that Allah has given each of us — that it is wrong.

thorny steeple
static pivot
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@ionic merlin hello

ashen jasper
fresh flower
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The sealing was a result of their own choices

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Not random punishment

uncut tiger
winter echo
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Mecha hitler

night cedar
winter echo
feral river
prisma cipher
feral river
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more money you have, more closer for you to the God

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more guns you have, more closer for you to the God

winter echo
feral river
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if you have the nuke, you are the God.

winter echo
manic juniper
turbid dome
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This is why you worship Kim Jong Un, he has graciously spared us from nuclear war by only using nukes defensively

feral river
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Israel 🇮🇱

versed edge
uncut tiger
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🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳

turbid dome
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🇹🇲🇹🇲🇹🇲

feral river
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🇨🇳 🇰🇵 🇨🇳 🇰🇵

feral river
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btw for wmds we have more effective weapons than nukes

uncut tiger
feral river
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every political topic between us was how the US is going, China, Russia, Ukraine, Israel

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even nobody talks about Israeli Gaza or Europe

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nobody seems don't know what happened in that region

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well it's real

uncut tiger
feral river
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but not very much

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there are some referrence about what Pakistan is using our fighter jet to take down Indian jets

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that's awesome

uncut tiger
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if i visit china would ppl be racist or welcoming

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specially when i tell them that im from pak

feral river
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in Chinese society, I mean most cities people don't easily see a lot foreigners

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when they see them they would be welcoming mostly and talk about interesting things

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well no

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we don't promote racism nor fascism

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Tibetian people is our people and they were recognized by the state under the law

uncut tiger
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🇵🇰🇨🇳 🇵🇰🇨🇳 🇵🇰🇨🇳 🇵🇰🇨🇳

thorny steeple
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Could you stop this talk

final cove
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Yeahh

thorny steeple
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Could you stop

feral river
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if you are Tibetian and you say this in public, you will be prosecuted under the law by disrupting the social order

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we don't care if they resist we will just remove them very swiftly as what you have ever see what we have done to some resistance movement

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we have absolute dominant power and force nobody could stop us

thorny steeple
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I report you

feral river
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the other superpowers USA or EU, the farest thing they can do something about it, was sanction which they are doing it all the time

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they won't risk themselves to have war with another superpower that is nearly powerful as Soviet Union, also have nuclear weapons

feral river
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but for us, we don't have to, very urgently take them back

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there's no point to do that currently

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they are still Republic of China by their claim and law, they do recognize our military dominance, and we have close economic ties

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okay

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idc if you leave that region

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but Tibet is part of the People's Republic of China, and it will be for the all time

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if all of you guys leave, nobody cares

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we don't care that shit lmao

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dream that under our guns

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🇨🇳

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try to send an original tibet emoji

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🤣

left arrow
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Lol blob_ban

high raven
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No one puts effort into scamming anymore

bitter badgerBOT
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dynoSuccess bkeshav356 was muted.

left arrow
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Click on the picture, embedded attack. Only looks low effort.

thorny steeple
left arrow
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Abo... You're currently the only one who broke a rule here now.

thorny steeple
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Why

left arrow
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He is entitled to his opinions.

thorny steeple
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He should change at least his name

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He said god in the long

left arrow
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Looks like they are from China and like minecraft... Not offensive.

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God is a common topic. We have 3 religious rooms, the vegans and FE bring up religion, P&R room exists...

feral river
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I like it

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JAPAN 1ST

thorny steeple
feral river
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but this one was quite well, someone consider this was a nazi flag in East Asia

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but it was being used by Japanese Navy till today

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even I see one when I was in Japan

high raven
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Money

feral river
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wait let me show you something

thorny steeple
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What a dumb

feral river
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have you ever been to Yasukuni Shrine ?

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I ever been to that place

thorny steeple
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When japeans kill you cry and need help

feral river
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I actually been to this place

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impressive

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I lived in South Korea for almost a year lol

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Seoul for 3 months, Busan for half of a year

dense agate
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Never forgive

fresh flower
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He supports whoever has the money

feral river
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I ever studied Judaism and even if there was a chance I'm gonna be a Jew

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being a Jew you can obtain the Israeli citizenship for free

fresh flower
feral river
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I mean including permanent residents

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the Green card

fresh flower
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All this for $3000 per month

feral river
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but unfortunately I didn't find any synagogue in East Asia, so this plan was dismissed lol

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I even use email to contact the rabbi who's in Japan and he told me to go to Israel or Australia to complete the conversion

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can't really do that

thorny steeple
fresh flower
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Takbir

feral river
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well yes I have a family which are all CCP members

feral river
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my parents, grandparents, all CCP members

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and I have a lot CCP friends

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im fucking rich

thorny steeple
feral river
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lmao

fresh flower
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😭😭😭😭

manic juniper
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Where

fresh flower
thorny steeple
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Nice

feral river
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how's that possible a guy traveling all over East Asia, staying Korea for a year and on vacation in Japan

fresh flower
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Minecraft is rich by Chinese standards probably

feral river
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a poor ?

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even I have houses, stocks, bitcoins, and gold

fresh flower
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I think he's only stupid in English, he probably does well for himself in Mandarin and in China

feral river
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have you ever see the gold bar I bought

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I ever posted here

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yeah I have that shit

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lmao I'm a ethereum developer

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I ever developed a plugin that would allow you to connect blockchain from minecraft

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wanna see my github ?

thorny steeple
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I don't

feral river
thorny steeple
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Some don't believe in god i don't respect him and believe him

feral river
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it's very well developed and I received some business opportunity

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earned around 6000 USD

thorny steeple
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He ignored me bc i am right

feral river
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not very much I made this project in the past

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I can develop ethereum smart contract well and other things

thorny steeple
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Do you eat a dog

feral river
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well, blockchain stuff I love them and I know a lot about them

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even I was mining the ethereum since 2021

high raven
thorny steeple
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I just asked

feral river
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how's that wrong to be a Jew ?

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are you anti-semetic ?

high raven
fresh flower
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No

feral river
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trust me or not your choice

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not my business

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do you know that was racism ?

fresh flower
# feral river do you know that was racism ?

It being racist doesn't make it less factual, the IDF is Israel and Israel is the IDF, you're about to say "If a Muslim commits a terror attack does it make all Muslim terrorists" aren't you

feral river
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and Israel is the most powerful country around that region

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rich, prosperous, and powerful

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there's no such reason I would support a loser

fresh flower
feral river
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that situation would be super relaxing for me

fresh flower
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Good luck in Taiwan

feral river
fresh flower
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that situation would be super relaxing for me

feral river
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try that

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you can't even handle North Korea and you want to be like that with us ?

uncut tiger
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@feral river what language do you write smart contracts in?

fresh flower
uncut tiger
fresh flower
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The nukes with water as fuel?

feral river
uncut tiger
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You're specialized in eth I see

feral river
uncut tiger
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Did you go to a university to study software

feral river
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and you will see

uncut tiger
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Or you learnt the coding yourself

feral river
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I learned it myself

fresh flower
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Your strongest ally Russia isn't able to handle Ukranian farmers, what makes you think you'd stand a chance against the US

uncut tiger
sweet wolf
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I'm relapsing to this channel

feral river
uncut tiger
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Like the one you're expert in

sweet wolf
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It calls to me

feral river
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python

uncut tiger
feral river
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sql, js

fresh flower
feral river
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any other shit ? well none probably

uncut tiger
feral river
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oh and php

fresh flower
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This China guy thinks Chinese jets are better than F-35💀

sweet wolf
feral river
uncut tiger
feral river
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im on hacking for all the time when I was in the vocational collage

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kali linux, nmap, metaexploit

uncut tiger
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Like tableau and power BI

feral river
uncut tiger
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You seem smart

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All of a sudden kekk

feral river
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3rd lol

uncut tiger
feral river
fresh flower
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Bro beat the 100 million people in his small city

sweet wolf
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I'm coping with this sleepless night by listening to yeat

uncut tiger
feral river
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this was nothing btw a city contest is where you launch this shit you definitely win it

sweet wolf
feral river
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because this was not launched by my collage so I only did 3rd

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if it was I would be 1st

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but that doesn't even matter if I got the 1st

uncut tiger
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So You go to a college

feral river
uncut tiger
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Tsinghua university huh

feral river
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a collage that your test paper are not qualified to go into a high school

uncut tiger
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I would love to get a scholarship there

feral river
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vocational collage

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so it's a very bad collage that there's no any nice people and people who have good grades

uncut tiger
feral river
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a middle class to be specific

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not very rich

uncut tiger
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You might be upper middle class

feral river
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I also love to invest things

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investment was my fav part of the wealth management

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even the gold I invested since 2023 the price doubled

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lol

uncut tiger
thorny steeple
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you should invest in your brain I guess

feral river
uncut tiger
feral river
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but I know almost every section of how economy works

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the inflation, deflation, interest rate, money supplies, productivity

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that led to capitalism, communism, fascism

uncut tiger
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EPS formula tell me

feral river
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well let me think about it

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earning per share ? you mean the earning you got from each share ?

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the dividend rate ?

uncut tiger
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Well let me Google about it kekk

uncut tiger
feral river
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well that doesn't make sense if that was the dividends only

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oh I see it on google it was about company audit shit

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I learned nothing about it I mean general economy

uncut tiger
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Just divide your net income by the number of shares Laughingcat

feral river
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wait I ever see this

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didn't I just used this factor to select which stocks have better performance

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lmao that was EPS

feral river
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I was confused

uncut tiger
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So you only have the specific understanding of these things not the underlying technicalities

feral river
uncut tiger
feral river
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I hate theory training those are totally indoctrination

uncut tiger
feral river
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let me check some

uncut tiger
chrome gulch
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Hey everyone, I just want to share something important today.

I've been on a self-improvement journey for almost 3 years now, and it has been one of the most meaningful experiences of my life. I truly believe that if my day starts well in the morning, the entire day goes great.
And when one day goes well, it sets the tone for a productive week. A great week can lead to a great month — and eventually, you know where that takes us — a transformed life.

Right now, due to my busy schedule, I’m not able to wake up early every day. But for those of you who have the time and the chance to grow right now, I sincerely encourage you — start waking up early.
This small habit can bring a big positive change in your life.

I'm also working on this myself — let's grow together 🙌

feral river
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VOO QQQM LMT KO IBM AAPL

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and etc.

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mostly on VOO, QQM and LMT

uncut tiger
feral river
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I already earned dividends and pay 10% dividend taxes to IRS for almost 2 years

feral river
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if you are other citizens without tax reduction treaty, you gonna pay 30% as standard rate

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that's well documented

uncut tiger
#

Wow

rotund grove
feral river
rotund grove
feral river
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with this pink iPhone 15 with women dress nobody knows I'm a guy on the street

rotund grove
turbid dome
feral river
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lmao but I don't really do that very frequent

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sometimes I dress like a girl and hang out with my friends

rotund grove
feral river
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im just a guy who used to be like a girl and enjoy the life

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that's my FREEDOM 🇺🇸

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but im a guy

rotund grove
feral river
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we play minecraft and we rule the server

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then I have to organize things and figure out something that was required to know to a certain extent of the english

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then I started to talk about some stupid shit

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then I become what I was right now

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I didn't even try to learn it

rotund grove
feral river
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every time I see books I goes sleepy

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im a terrible student too lmao

rotund grove
feral river
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and I can read Korean

rotund grove
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Can i join your smp

feral river
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I join other server, kill the people, loot all of the stuff which is available

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And use these to got more weapons and armor then rule the people in the resource area

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Tax them, that’s all what im doing

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I never work, but im always rich

grand prism
gentle kettle
manic juniper
wispy cedar
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@ashen jasper Wa alaikum assalam

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Kardeş

uneven citrus
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cap

dense agate
formal pilot
uneven citrus
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feel free 😹

gentle kettle
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I'm bored...

gentle kettle
high raven
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It will be entertaining

gentle kettle
fresh flower
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He/Him with anime pfp

high raven
gentle kettle
fresh flower
gentle kettle
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If I tell what I often watch can U know whatever I'm gay or not?

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Oliva-kun

gentle kettle
fresh flower
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Stranger danger

fresh flower
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The last one confirmed it

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No shame in it though

gentle kettle
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Wait really?

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But she girl

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XD don't lie to me. U didn't watch it

fresh flower
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Like come on bro

gentle kettle
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:b

fresh flower
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Does it help you sleep though

gentle kettle
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To much ngl

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I can't send images 😔

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For some reason

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But U can see my comment there

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Honored...

formal pilot
plush surge
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Hi

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Who think LGBT... is normal?

versed edge
quick musk
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this is part of the investigation

manic juniper
turbid dome
uneven citrus
ionic merlin
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the crowds are waiting to pounce.

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the LGBTQSLHRV+ (i think they have appropriated the whole alphabet but i cant remember in what order) is a socially interesting topic.

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i think political correctness and the fact people shy away from conflict/debate does greatly influence their answer to this question.

crystal plank
ionic merlin
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there was a survey recently in ireland that claimed over 65% of the population was favorable to the ALPHABET+ agenda.

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although, ireland is a very modern and forward looking country, it does seem like a very high proportion of the population.

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the report did not include the source and methodology, nor the the precise wording of the question that was asked so it is difficult to interpret the validity of the study.

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still, i am of the opinion that if people were to answer this question in completely cnfidential conditions and the wording made them feel completely free to answer objectively and truthfully, most people would answer it is not natural.
regardless of the fact that homosexuality is well documented in nature and throughout humans history.

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then, of course the simple argument is "nature is one thing but humans like to think of themselves as better than animals so using nature as an argument is highly hypocritical."

ionic merlin
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i do expect it to grow to its full 26 letter potential by the end of the century.

ionic merlin
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then think of it, they could go with the russian alphabet and add a few more letters...

night cedar
feral river
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They have the freedom to be whatever they want

spring mural
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So whats so serious in here

thorny steeple
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For day to day you approved to me you are crazy person

uncut tiger
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Is it okay to dislike LGBTQHIV+ just because you hate men kissing men

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Also I feel it's wrong cuz of religious reasons

versed edge
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It's nobody's right to dictate someone else's preference.

uncut tiger
versed edge
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It's also nobody's right to tell you can't disagree with it.

uncut tiger
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I ain't making him gay

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I've talked to many LGBTQHIV people and they seem to be insecure about their identity

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For example a gay guy secretly hated other gays

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And a trans man got offended when I said that he can't impregnate a woman

versed edge
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I think the T part is a whole other thing

uncut tiger
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Is it people like me who have made it an insecurity to talk about queerness

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But still the thing is why can't they stay straight their whole lives. I would like to understand how they feel if they just try to maintain a straight life

ionic merlin
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i think you have a point when you bring up the idea of "insecurity"

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choosing homosexuality could well be for may a way to form an identity whether or not they actually feel attracted to the same sex to start with

uncut tiger
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And how does being attracted to the same gender make sense

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You got a lock and key model stick to that

ionic merlin
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i lived in brazil in 1997-98, the "head" of the gay association of belo-horizonte at the time was a friend of my girlfriend's

uncut tiger
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(lock is for female key is for male)

versed edge
uncut tiger
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I would like to say that sex is for reproduction and reproduction is only possible by natural method, which is between a male and a female

ionic merlin
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he was adamant he was born like this and so on.
his story had signs of abuse and it was clear that having been abused he had then decided it was really himself in order to win over the "uncertainty"

uncut tiger
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I don't get the "born like this" part

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Everyone is born straight

ionic merlin
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he then moved to australia to finish his PhD, came back married to a woman 4 years later and said he had been wrong all along

ionic merlin
uncut tiger
versed edge
ionic merlin
uncut tiger
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Imagine if you can't have the same institution of family you would submit yourself directly TO THE STATE

versed edge
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If you raised a group of 5 boys ans 5 girls secluded from society I think it would naturally result in majority bisexuality

ionic merlin
ionic merlin
uncut tiger
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If you stop family you get loyal government slaves

ionic merlin
#

but i think an important point here is to look at he "Basic psychology" angle

ionic merlin
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it could be one of the tools

versed edge
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If there's nothing like society or religion dictating people will probably do what is pleasurable

uncut tiger
ionic merlin
uncut tiger
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What the hell

versed edge
ionic merlin
#

and a male is naturally more receptive to a female's hormones and vice-versa

ionic merlin
uncut tiger
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LGBTQ ppl are being played by the state, they think they're being given their rights. But actually the state is crumbling their family system

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Imagine a gay family

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You got two men living together who just die without any lineage

versed edge
ionic merlin
uncut tiger
versed edge
ionic merlin
versed edge
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It's futility

valid valve
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Korea. LGBTQ not really allowed. Okay, but not talk. Crime sometimes. Do not understand why. Human we are all. Hating is not way to heaven. Teachings say. Love. Respect.

uncut tiger
uncut tiger
ionic merlin
uncut tiger
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Whereas you could've brought forward a beautiful family in which the kid actually got love from his father and his mother

ionic merlin
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that means young people being more expose and actually ingesting the possibility of them "being"

uncut tiger
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And kid would have less childhood trauma

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With his biological parents with him

valid valve
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Other person choices, we do not need. Why bother?

ionic merlin
ionic merlin