🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

well no I can tell you

we don't use that fight against minorities

we use that fight against terrorists

[coral belfry]

what
a cyber gun
you dont have a gun
your army has one

[feral river]

even the US would pass their due process to prosecute terrorists

LMAO

[pastel epoch]

Umhmmmm

[quick musk]

there'll be always uncertainty about ancient history...but this term was passed down from generation to another. ofc it didn't evolve out of nothing. I don't know much about Finnish but if what you said is true then it's just a loanword in finish but who would the Turks borrow the term Khan from

are you a girl or a guy

you're so much delulu

[sharp creek]

but many good people were accidentally hurt by the overly strict policy

[manic juniper]

It's a loanword from Germanic but it's not originally Finnish, however we lack the documented loanword from proto-Germanic itself. In the case of "khan" it seems to be a simple two syllables word whose origin isn't documented and thus cannot be traced with our current knowledge

It's possible that the word itself isn't even Turkic, Mongolic or Tungusic and was adopted long ago, being part of a forgotten substrate

Most similarities between Turkic and Mongolic languages are nothing more than language contamination through the same substrates

[gritty echo]

It complies with the old Turkic grammar. Also a title used since the beginning of Turkic history.

Also, you don't have to be stupid to not understand that it is a shortened version of kagan.

Even the pronunciation is ğ and kağan

Same titles

[sharp creek]

Thats why people dont like a dictatorship system

[quick musk]

I searched for the finnish word you mentioned but I feel it's an unfair comparison. that kingus is found only after Germanic tribes were in contact with Finnic speakers while on the other hand "Khan" earliest mention was in Turkic political inscriptions.No known non turkic language has a similar word meaning "ruler" before the Turkic use....mongols adapted it later

it's just like a proto Turkic word ofc

[gritty echo]

we are still using it

[quick musk]

might be different from the modern Turkic languages indeed. Even the Turkic languages today have many differences

[sharp creek]

Its highly risky that such an unreasonable situation happens to you

[quick musk]

yeah I know, but I just mean it was an ancient Turkic word, today Turkish and other Turkic languages are modernized with so many loanwords

[gritty echo]

It also complies with the rules of old Turkic grammar.

[quick musk]

makes sense, Kaan is a common Turkish name too

[coral arrow]

Hi have you tips for get toiec ?

[sharp creek]

i know, but humm, its a cruel, cold blooded world

[manic juniper]

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/pjab1912/2/6/2_6_241/_pdf/-char/en

[gritty echo]

It is possible to see traces of this in every language; Turks are never an isolated nation. , Throughout history, Turks went to every point they could and established dominance.
It is no surprise that the horse is the most important animal for Turkic culture.

[manic juniper]

The main issue with reconstructing ethnic and linguistic details from around China stems from their script, it's logographic and not alphabetic

[sharp creek]

the fk girl is always excited whenever someone mentions monkeys and mogolians

[manic juniper]

It's why we know next to nothing about the Xiongnu's actual ethnicities and languages, it's all documented in Chinese

[sharp creek]

!! dont run away

[manic juniper]

Another possible candidate is the Rouran language which is often considered a possible precursor of Mongolic languages

[feral river]

we don't document loser assholes

[thorny steeple]

We study the history of turkic khaganates at school and uni

[gritty echo]

There are only two nations in that geography that compete and interact with the Chinese: the Turks and the Mongols.

[manic juniper]

But you did, some of them were ancient trade partners

[feral river]

it's all Chinese anyway

[gritty echo]

There are many differences between the names in Chinese sources and the names in Turkish sources.

[manic juniper]

Not exactly, not only were the Sinitic people of many ethnicities and languages but the Turkic and Mongolic people were too, and the Jurchens are Tungusic

[thorny steeple]

he is racist

[quick musk]

girl Turks and mongols have really much in common, like even the same myth they'll both claim it.....I find it hard to consider both as independent....for example the descendants of Genghis Khan identified as Turks. And one of my friends claim that ancient Turks called themselves "mongols" he provided sources for it too. but today if you asked a mongol about the origin of the name Khan they'll say Turkic ....many mongols carried Turkic names and titles. Like even Genghis Khan got his name after his father defeated a tatar warrior named Temüjin, so his father named his son after him. it was a Mongolian tradition

[manic juniper]

Because Chinese uses logograms unlike Romans and Greeks with alphabets, alphabets are more accurate at emulating and transcribing other languages

[feral river]

I don't have to be racist to losers, and I'm not racist

they already lose their ground what they can do left is yapping

well it's a privillage, a lot of nations which existed in here don't have the privillage to yap

at least they fleed out to the modern turkey region, good for them

[thorny steeple]

you are racist to koreans, russians also, be humble

[quick musk]

also many names are considered turco Mongolic, like a mix of both maybe that's why it's hard to distinguish the origin of some names

[thorny steeple]

dont be too arrocagent

[gritty echo]

But it is also very ironic that people who have described Turks as barbarians are trying to divide everything that has been known as Turks into different ethnic identities and groups.

[thorny steeple]

why are you so much into it

[gritty echo]

[thorny steeple]

leave turkish people alone

[quick musk]

why are u obsessed with arguing with me

[manic juniper]

But this happened quite late in history, they weren't united before the 13th century. As for nobility titles you answered it yourself, the title of "Caesar" and "Tsar" was carried by many non-Slavic and non-Roman foreigners. Having a foreign title that carries prestige has always been a thing

[quick musk]

I told you I don't hate u

[thorny steeple]

Syrians Arabs White all have same lineage from Prophet Adam

[thorny steeple]

Its clear y ou dont hate us its not about us

[quick musk]

also no mention of Turkish here, I'm talking about mongols and Turkic tribes

[manic juniper]

The title of khan is used as surname by many commoners after the decline of the Mughals, mostly by people who have no relations whatsoever with the aristocracy

[thorny steeple]

I think they are somehow cousin or relative to each other

but they are somehow different in modern day

[quick musk]

mhm exactly! That example of the title tsar can be applied on the title Khan, was it used first by mongols or Turks? this will determine it, the title Caesar is attributed to romans originally regardless of who used it later

[quick musk]

omg

[manic juniper]

According to some sources it's impossible to trace with our current knowledge and understanding

Caesar can easily be reconstructed through etymology

[gritty echo]

Our entire knowledge of ancient history will remain limited to these unless something new is discovered.,

[quick musk]

Syrians are relatives to Arabs and whites at this point idk what you're even talking about

[manic juniper]

Same as kuningas, despite having been preserved in Finnish it's clear that it's from proto-Germanic

[thorny steeple]

all people are having same mother and father, they are just same

[manic juniper]

There was another culture that likely fit the bill too, Xianbei or something

Also documented in Chinese

And similarly to the Rouran language it's considered to be pre-Mongolic

[thorny steeple]

do you see yourself as mongol or mongol as your relative?

[quick musk]

we can say the same about everything in history then

[manic juniper]

Yes

We don't know which language came first and how to reconstruct it

All the current language families have independent and isolated origins

[quick musk]

you're still talking to me as if im a racist

[thorny steeple]

I didnt meant you guys are racist

[gritty echo]

Why do I feel the need to see myself as a Mongol? Turks have a political history older than the Mongols.

[quick musk]

if we kept goiing back in time, languages branched from a common root so in that case you're right but I'll still consider Khan as a Turkic word at least in modern times

[thorny steeple]

why didnt you spreaded Muslim influence in Ancient China

China would be muslim

[manic juniper]

We don't know that for sure

[thorny steeple]

if turks have some focus on china

[gritty echo]

Until the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan, the Mongols were a nation that lived only around China.

[quick musk]

then why are you telling me we are all the same 😭 everytime you see me wth

[manic juniper]

What if they all developed independently

[quick musk]

hmm

[gritty echo]

At that time, the Turks were establishing empires spread over many parts of the world.

Why should I see myself as a Mongolian?

[thorny steeple]

you act like scholar, im much obbsessed with syrians and turks

[manic juniper]

We know the ultimate etymology of most words in most languages but not all

[thorny steeple]

especially syrians i like them alot

[thorny steeple]

sure, you dont need to be a mongol

[gritty echo]

Timur's life was not enough

His biggest goal was to conquer China

[thorny steeple]

well, do you know about TFX Fighter Jet?

[thorny steeple]

there are 30 million muslims in china only

sue to ming dynasty

[quick musk]

you're actually right, the origin isn't really clear because the identity of the rouran isn't clear either. Their language is classified as an Altaic or Sino-Tibetan language. So Göktürk used it before mongols but before Göktürks nomadic tribes also used it( might be proto Mongolic tribes)

[thorny steeple]

Before, Islam was one of the biggest religions in China. 😄 During Ming rule for example!

The first Ming Emperor (ruled about 1360 - 1389) liked Islam, and supported Muslims

[gritty echo]

What I don't understand is that historians try to erase people who spoke Turkic in their administrative positions, whose official language was Turkic, and who described themselves as Turkic in their writings, by saying that they were not Turkic.

like Emir Timur

[thorny steeple]

A while after him, Zeng He was chosen to lead China's exploration in the oceans.

[quick musk]

[manic juniper]

Don't trust the Altaic hypothesis too much, it's not strongly supported to my knowledge

[quick musk]

hmm

what's a trustworthy source according to you

[thorny steeple]

do turkish language have formation from Manchuria?

[gritty echo]

It is said that it is of Iranian origin, not Turkish, and included in the Safavid Empire.

[thorny steeple]

Do you believe it

[manic juniper]

Idk just read about current opinions on it, they support separate language families with just a similar substrate. As for where to find the information there are plenty of sites, JSTOR has a lot of articles about history

[quick musk]

I see, thanks. unrelated to the topic but you're so pretty

[gritty echo]

The official language of the state is Turkic, the language spoken by the rulers is Turkic, the way they describe themselves is Turkic, but Safavid Empire is iran history nonsense.

[manic juniper]

Thanks 🦌

[gritty echo]

[manic juniper]

https://altaica.ru/LIBRARY/CLAUSON/Clauson_against.pdf here is one early argument against the proposed group

[gritty echo]

What is it with us Turks? Our hands are spread everywhere, but none of the speakers are called Turkic in origin.

[turbid dome]

Many people do acknowledge that the Timurids were Turkic, as were the Seljuks. However, the area they ruled over was not overwhelmingly Turkic, it was mostly of Iranian heritage. The leaders and ruling class were different from the societies they ruled over, which did not widely speak Turkic, where Persian language became the lingua Franca. They also over time were less and less Turkic and more and more Persian.

[quick musk]

I've seen some Iranians claiming the Selcuk empire too...which I don't agree on but the safavid promoted for the Persian culture, and used Persian as an official language( despite that the origin of the ruling dynasty is Turkic)

[gritty echo]

seljuk empire serioulsy wtf

even seljuk is old turkic name

how it can be Iranian xd

[quick musk]

that was because the Turks integrated well in the societies they lived in, in Persian speaking lands, they spoke persian. in arab majority lands they spoke Arabic ....in the past I thought even Mehmet Ali was an Arab and every ruler using the term shah is originally Persian

[feral river]

who gives a fuck

nobody give a fuck to a group that doesn't exist anymore

[quick musk]

you give a f by replying

[gritty echo]

The language of the dynasty and army was Turkic

[thorny steeple]

What is your progress in 6th generation planes?

[feral river]

I don't hate turkish neither the turkey, but making Turkish piece of shit around our region was pure stupid and pointless

[feral river]

still testing lol

[gritty echo]

What people don't understand is that we Turks have established empires everywhere we've gone, it's natural that we are not in a dominant position as a people.

[thorny steeple]

fifth generation planes USA is sending their planes around the globe

[gritty echo]

We conquered, we dominated, and over time the region regained its former identity.

[feral river]

we have fifth generation planes lol

[thorny steeple]

F-35 is taking over J-35

[gritty echo]

But to describe these empires as if they were founded by another nation is nothing more than an insult to their heritage.

[feral river]

F-35 was nothing, their powerful air superiority fighter was F-22

[thorny steeple]

J-35 isnt inducted and J-20 they arent sold to any Airforce till now

[quick musk]

they used Persian for administration, the Memluks used Arabic as the official language too. that's why I said they adapted the dominant culture of the region they were living in

[feral river]

F-35 was just used for beat losers

[turbid dome]

Nobody serious claims this lol. Everyone acknowledges these empires were Turkic in origin

[thorny steeple]

How about your J-35 and J-20 jets

[silk saddle]

I have a question, why ppl hate trump

[gritty echo]

But it is possible to see the traces we left in all of them,

[thorny steeple]

What will happen to them, why is no one taking them?

[feral river]

not bad but ain't good enough

[gritty echo]

tell it to fanatics

[thorny steeple]

Why arent you guys selling them, US is selling all their weapons everywhere

[quick musk]

yeah sure the middle east is so diverse today

[silk saddle]

.

[gritty echo]

They exaggerate so much that you'd think we fell from the sky into history and founded some of the greatest empires.

They talk as if the Turks never existed and suddenly appeared.

[feral river]

we do sell them dude

[quick musk]

what's written in your profile

[prisma cipher]

Because dumb

[quick musk]

Göktürk alphabet

[thorny steeple]

whom did you sold your J-20?

How many nations are inducting chinese jets?

[prisma cipher]

I more curious why someone like him

[silk saddle]

Like what?

[prisma cipher]

He literally good for Russia and I should like him, but he so annoyingly dumb that I just can't

[gritty echo]

tanrı ( coming from tengri same meaning as god ) protect to turk

Tanrı Türkü Korusun

[quick musk]

you're Russian?!

[prisma cipher]

Breaking news

I'm Russian

[quick musk]

nicee meaning

The alphabet looks so coool

but hard to learn, especially that it's rarely used today

[quick musk]

I thought you're Turkish

[prisma cipher]

I was

[quick musk]

huh

[thorny steeple]

Whitepeople are racist to russians

[quick musk]

they hate putin not russians

[prisma cipher]

No they hate Russian

[silk saddle]

Yea they hate russian idk why

[quick musk]

Russians are white, aren't they

[thorny steeple]

i saw US citizens they are being racist to them

[thorny steeple]

they see them as Asians

[quick musk]

political conflicts not racism

[silk saddle]

Historical beef

[prisma cipher]

It depends, we have a lot nation. But Slavic ones white

[thorny steeple]

Krym

[feral river]

not much

[quick musk]

so the majority are white except minorities

[feral river]

Pakistan have some

[thorny steeple]

nations which loves your J-10, J-20 and J-35 or other fighter jets

[quick musk]

wait are you a Crimean tatar? that's why you're Turkic and Russian

[prisma cipher]

It not always minority. A lot region aren't Slavic, like republic baskhir those people mostly not Slavic

[thorny steeple]

do you love central asians people who come to your country

[prisma cipher]

You mean migrant? We have several terrorists here from those. After that we have very sus behavior towards them. But if talking about my personal opinion I don't care till person behaves normal.

[prisma cipher]

If I was Tatar I say I'm Tatar

[quick musk]

ohh I see

[hexed canyon]

Russia is involved in a war, also they are kinda homophobic and some of them disrespectful to women

[prisma cipher]

I don't see any disadvantages

[alpine totem]

Russia been always like that

[hexed canyon]

@prisma cipher maybe you, but not for the majority of Europe

[prisma cipher]

In Russia women had more human rights than in many other countries historically, this was especially developed in the USSR

[hexed canyon]

and what about the fact that some russians support what is happening in Ukraine?

[prisma cipher]

IMO majority of Europe are lame as f. They have great history. But I have no respect for those. Their opinion mean 0

[hexed canyon]

@prisma cipher ok think wathever you want, russian's society will still be seeing as a thirld world one

I mean, stuck one century ago

[prisma cipher]

Wanna see last cool political from Europe? Who I respect. He is gone now. https://youtube.com/shorts/u7ol-GKar9Y?si=wSr8HhVQMeT2xylF

[prisma cipher]

Who, definitely not me.

[prisma cipher]

Respect gay isn't modern thing.

Modern leader getting punch from his wife. And I should respect his opinion

His opinion is 0

[lost marlin]

im very serious

[hexed canyon]

A good society is that where no people live under repression and have freedom to be what they are

[lost marlin]

i dont respect gays

[alpine totem]

*his father

[hexed canyon]

Somebody asked why russians are not very well seen by people from other countries, im telling you why

[lost marlin]

why

[hexed canyon]

And you are an example of this

[prisma cipher]

Not me.

[lost marlin]

im not russian bro

[hexed canyon]

@lost marlin read what I have written before

[lost marlin]

where

[hexed canyon]

@lost marlin I meant Neyro

@lost marlin above dude

[lost marlin]

ok

i love russian bro

[alpine totem]

yeah like allowing pakistani grooming gangs to happen

[lost marlin]

@prisma cipher priviet

[hexed canyon]

@alpine totem as long as you don't hurt anybody else, of course

[prisma cipher]

If Europe fr don't like Russian because of that, I like Russia even more. And Europe are more lame than I thought

[verbal torrent]

Everybody lame
Except me

[lost marlin]

you have a strong opinion bro

[hexed canyon]

@verbal torrent yes, thats the mentallity of Neyro and some russians

[verbal torrent]

Its oke its oke
If it doesn’t harm anyone its oke its oke

[alpine totem]

??? grooming gangs bro

[prisma cipher]

Like fr most of modern European leaders are lame

[lost marlin]

what about donald trump

[prisma cipher]

And everything new are lame and lame

[hexed canyon]

@alpine totem no, what I said was an addition to what I have previously said

[prisma cipher]

Dumb but kinda cool

[verbal torrent]

I love canada’s president

[prisma cipher]

He isn't lame

[lost marlin]

what about Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu

[hexed canyon]

To have the freedom of being yourself AS LONG AS you don't hurt anybody

[prisma cipher]

I don't like him, but he isn't lame

[lost marlin]

but he is criminal

[alpine totem]

there needs to be consequences for them to learn not to harm others

[hexed canyon]

@alpine totem of course

@lost marlin he is criminal like Hamas is

[lost marlin]

yeah but he still a criminal bro

[alpine totem]

western europe laws are too soft they will never learn

[lost marlin]

The Israelis start by attacking Iran first, then play the victim in front of their mother America

[hexed canyon]

Yes, he was right at first but ended up killing too many innocent people

@alpine totem soft in what sense?

[lost marlin]

israel kills innecent people from 1948 lol

[alpine totem]

giving them luxurious prisons and short to no sentences

[hexed canyon]

@lost marlin and Who started the war killing hundred of people in a theatre?

[prisma cipher]

Since some Russian ran from war to Israel, because they hate Russia because it fighting with their neighbors, but like Israel, I start to hate that. But I try to be reasonable, don't hate every jevish it not their fault.

[alpine totem]

Iran attacked first

[hexed canyon]

@alpine totem thats true

[silk nebula]

True

[lost marlin]

who start the occupation of palestine first?

[silk nebula]

The british

[lost marlin]

yeah

[silk nebula]

"Palestine" was never controlled by arabs, it always was either jews or brits

[hexed canyon]

@lost marlin no body, many countries give that psrt to Israel at the end of WW2

[lost marlin]

the british are the source of all problems now

[silk nebula]

It’s not because the brits where there that they caused all the problems

[high raven]

How's the vibe in here, is eveyone getting along?

[hexed canyon]

@high raven yes 😂

[alpine totem]

yes

[high raven]

Yippi!

[lost marlin]

it was always controlled by muslims

[silk nebula]

Definitly not

[high raven]

The state or the land itself?

[lost marlin]

read history bro

[alpine totem]

just give the damn land to christians. muslims and jews can't behave

[lost marlin]

the land

[high raven]

You have to ignore a lot of history to be able to make that claim

[quaint cape]

hi people

[alpine totem]

hello

[quaint cape]

hru Narcissus

[alpine totem]

I'm fine there's a ceasefire now

[feral river]

we need full invasion against terrorism

🇺🇸 🇮🇱

[lost marlin]

yes against israel and america

[prisma cipher]

They should kill each other

[feral river]

you will see who will be killed by them

[prisma cipher]

First country terrorist making, second, terrorist behaving

[feral river]

that wasn't a bad outcome for you guys if you want your territory in central asia back

[prisma cipher]

You

[feral river]

I'm a capitalist colla I won't be killed, my country is powerful I kick their ass

they are powerful I was one of them

[prisma cipher]

You will be first

You aren't one of them

[feral river]

I can be, and I'm the shareholder of all of this

[prisma cipher]

Thinking they don't kill you because you like them naive

[glossy ether]

sannaaaaaaaaa @high raven

[feral river]

they drop bomb coming from the factory by the companies which I'm holding their stock

I fund their company and they pay me back as dividends

that's war economy I was part of it

you are not

don't be a loser this time with our modern shit send to you for using it in Ukraine

go annex it, we are fine with that

[prisma cipher]

Who you, you aren't one of them

You are like looser who try to be friend with cool dude.

[feral river]

I'm as I always be

I kick somebody's ass they know in their heart and they feel bad but they can do nothing about rather than complaining and insulting

I'm totally fine with that, a lot of loser behave like this in front of a winner

and don't be a loser this time on the ground of Ukraine

or you will see what the next ground will be in the far east

L.M.A.O.

[sweet wolf]

What is going on 💀

[prisma cipher]

Looser

It what going on

[high raven]

Hello Chika!

[glossy ether]

how are youu

[sick raft]

My fellow Americans

[sick raft]

Some Chinese guy yapping

[prisma cipher]

I like China, but that dude just out of it

[sick raft]

who tf likes China 💀

America is way better not even a question

no reason to like China 😹

These people are desperate enough to infiltrate their Chinese great fireball

and yet decide to spread Chinese propaganda

[prisma cipher]

I am

[sick raft]

💀🙏🏻

🗣️ 🔥

[feral river]

Idk if there was day you will have to but if you are an American you deserve my respect to the most powerful state in the world

[sick raft]

if I say I’m American I’m banned

[feral river]

And appreciate you guy’s hard work against terrorism

[sick raft]

🤫

[prisma cipher]

stop humiliating yourself Minecraft you aren't one of them

[sick raft]

America doesn’t need appreciation we’re just too good and just like that 😹

[feral river]

Nice to hear that

🇺🇸 Make America Great Again

[prisma cipher]

Permanent looser block

[sick raft]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[prisma cipher]

Minecraft blocked

[feral river]

Who would give a fuck

You are trying to pretend you are so important

What the fuck man

I don’t even know why would you yap around me

I didn’t even say that fucking shit about you

[sick raft]

none of us are important 💀

this is a random ahh discord server were messaging in 🥀

[feral river]

You are, and I do appreciate that

We all exist and we are matter

We are the future of the world

[prisma cipher]

I'm ashamed to read his messages, he simply has no self-respect.

@manic juniper unblocked

[feral river]

My policy is, i would never block anyone

[thorny steeple]

Same here

[high raven]

I'm doing well, how about yourself?

[whole karma]

I see

[thorny steeple]

hyyyy

dead talks

[lost marlin]

I fall in love when i read your name

[thorny steeple]

really

its my nickname

[lost marlin]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

hmm

and im hating when i red yur name

[lost marlin]

Why

[thorny steeple]

idk

[lost marlin]

You hurts my feelings

@thorny steeple🐊🐊🐊🐊

[thorny steeple]

really

[cinder quartz]

what

[lost marlin]

I was bitten by an alligator yesterday

[thorny steeple]

hmmm ok byeee

[chrome acorn]

Die asap

[lost marlin]

Der fuhrer

[light valley]

howdy

[prisma cipher]

Chill it my personal block

[lost marlin]

I'm so depressed

[prisma cipher]

Just in case you depressing because of me I don't add any people in discord. Nothing personal

[light valley]

be happy

[prisma cipher]

We can talk here

[plush void]

hello hello

[lost marlin]

Because I couldn't get rid of masturbation

[lost marlin]

Hi

[prisma cipher]

You will be after 60

[plush void]

[verbal torrent]

Ye i just realized tht we haven’t added each other even tough we are friends more than a year

[prisma cipher]

Yes it's serious

[lost marlin]

What is the method to get rid of it

[prisma cipher]

I can add you

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-heck-text-reading-text-shocked-gif-13676017

[verbal torrent]

Ye but why we never did bfore

[lost marlin]

You are racist because I'm from moscow

[verbal torrent]

Moscow is the enemy of oryol or wut

[prisma cipher]

I don't know I just send message and it work without friends

[verbal torrent]

Tru

[prisma cipher]

Wtf

[lost marlin]

Moscow is my home

[verbal torrent]

He says u are racist to moscow

[prisma cipher]

Aa

[verbal torrent]

Bb

[lost marlin]

Cyka blyat nakhwi

@prisma cipher how can I learn russian

[prisma cipher]

You already speak it. There is nothing I can teach you

[sweet wolf]

This channel is the most entertaining one I've ever seen

[lost marlin]

Thank you

[high raven]

The usual suspects with the bad takes are sadly not here right now

[thorny steeple]

Is that real

[high raven]

This might just be real too honestly

He dropped the first presidential f-word today, this one has a lot of potential

[tulip zenith]

XD

[sweet wolf]

It's 3am here so we might not get to see as many fireworks this time

[true lark]

First??

[high raven]

As far as I know yes

Can't remember another president having said that

[thorny steeple]

Wishing patience to his wife

[turbid dome]

At lest we get content for the downfall of America

[true lark]

I doubt it's the first time trump said it though

[thorny steeple]

Downfall? Wdym

[turbid dome]

Inevitable decline

[thorny steeple]

Who's gonna be the best then?

[turbid dome]

China probably

[true lark]

Ash ketchup

[thorny steeple]

China is winning 🏅

[true lark]

Please tell me someone got the reference

[thorny steeple]

I didn't get you

[true lark]

Omg.... please listen to the pokemon theme song

[manic juniper]

If Poland keeps the same economic growth it'll become the most powerful country in the world

[thorny steeple]

They are racists tho

[true lark]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-indogo-league-intro-title-sequence-ash-ketchum-pikachu-theme-pokemon-theme-song-ash-ketchum-pikachu-pocket-monsters-gif-68414686062976056

[manic juniper]

They learn so quickly

[thorny steeple]

Sometimes, I agree with them not in everything but yea...

[sweet wolf]

Having a hard time believing this

[high raven]

They love complaining about immigration and the EU while taking in the minimum amount of immigrants and being the top net beneficiary of EU budget funds

[sweet wolf]

[true lark]

Well its a fact, if they kept up the same growth, isfrun isn't saying they will keep it up, just that if they will they will become the most powerful

[hard pebble]

why is it serious chat?

[sweet wolf]

How far into the future are we talking

[thorny steeple]

Maybe they're trying to preserve their race

[true lark]

Thats the fun part, unspecified, so technically this statement is true for every country with economic growth

[thorny steeple]

I don't think it is serious at all. It's the best chat in the server after the VC rooms

[thorny steeple]

Poland is still a poor country

[high raven]

I just think it's funny when they say that given the amount of Polish immigrants in other countries

[true lark]

Poor ≠ no economic growth

[hard pebble]

I don't attend much of these so I don't have any idea about it.

[manic juniper]

It's an homogenous country, they don't have many ethnicities except Ukrainians who are somewhat recent

Even if you look at the languages alone there it's mostly Polish (always excluding Ukrainian)

[thorny steeple]

They re everywhere

[thorny steeple]

Best people here at least in my opinion 🫠

[true lark]

They must all have 4 children a family and only keep two in the country, because idk how else it isn't empty yet

[thorny steeple]

True. Their country always supports Ukraine

[sweet wolf]

Not really if there are so many other countries with comparable and even greater economic growth

[hard pebble]

chat will go crazy on yaa now

[sweet wolf]

That alone doesn't seem like it would make a country the most powerful either

[true lark]

Given infinite time of economic growth the others will also go down as it isn't guaranteed to keep growing

[thorny steeple]

Funny fact 😭

[true lark]

But of course it's completely unrealistic that it actually happens

[sweet wolf]

I see, unrealistic scenario but technically possible

[manic juniper]

Except Latvia, Latvia will get a 36650183212% growth spurt in 2066

It will be the largest economy to ever exist

[high raven]

Exactly, I do appreciate them though, the guys who remodeled my bathroom were Polish and they did a great job

They're the Mexicans of Europe

[true lark]

I dont know about that

[sweet wolf]

For the sake of the comparison, are there any americans of europe that despise the immigrants from there?

[thorny steeple]

I can see that Western Europe is already cooked

[manic juniper]

Don't underestimate Latvia

[manic juniper]

British people, they did Brexit just to avoid Poles

[thorny steeple]

Estonia as well

[high raven]

Definitely the Brits

[thorny steeple]

I like the thing that they seem to be family-oriented people 💗

[high raven]

I think there's more Poles in the UK than anywhere else

[manic juniper]

I think they and Ukrainians are the funniest people in Europe

[thorny steeple]

Germany maybe

[manic juniper]

Can't imagine not liking the Poles

I wish there were more of them

[true lark]

Actually that is a really interesting thing you say there

Because you're not alone in that

Our government collapsed because of debates around immigrants, and every type got involved in the discussion somehow, besides the polish immigrants, neither side thought them a problem

[olive herald]

I LNOWWW UUUY

[turbid dome]

Chola hat

Saparmurat Niyazov appreciation moment

The GOAT of the wacky dictators

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114740882500667664

wtf is this

Video Trump posted with “bomb Iran” song in background

[fiery pecan]

Uzbek?

[plush geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-gif-21287274

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-hi-gif-5479885170472268950

[valid plover]

Sadge

[lofty hound]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-17389271083410976578

[patent tapir]

Hey

Can I ask you one question everyone!??

[high raven]

Go ahead

[olive herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-triggered-gif-26561244

https://tenor.com/view/cat-triggered-gif-26561244

[ashen thicket]

Hey

[past locust]

https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbvNDt9Fmw27_u1/?igsh=MWlkM3ppdnltdzBkZA==

[formal pilot]

[ember phoenix]

nothing happen

[turbid dome]

Socialist wins NYC mayoral primary, DPRNYC time

[subtle geyser]

What is going on here

[subtle geyser]

Bro got kicked out too?

[turbid dome]

Huh?

[subtle geyser]

Did you get banned from english server

[turbid dome]

No

[subtle geyser]

Alright nevermind

[exotic plume]

that’s so crazy

[rigid robin]

cool chest.👍🏻

[rigid robin]

don't u love crazy? crazy's so cool!

[exotic plume]

not this type of crazy

i do love crazy tho

[rigid robin]

ok what type of crazy?

[exotic plume]

fun crazy

[rigid robin]

oh I meant what type of crazy u meant not too bad.

[rigid robin]

I love u too.

[exotic plume]

trump crazy is bad

[exotic plume]

i love u more.

[rigid robin]

oh now I got it.

[rigid robin]

oh wow. that's cool. where are u from?

[exotic plume]

thank you for loving me. I am from yemen what about you?

[rigid robin]

that's pretty far from me. sorry I can't come and marry u so fast.

it's belarus from me.

[exotic plume]

it’s okay there’s no rush. i would wait a lifetime for you

[exotic plume]

that’s so awesome

[rigid robin]

ham ham. ok then
awesome? ham aham. I wouldn't ssay so in that periot of time.

[exotic plume]

hahahaha how old are you anyway

[rigid robin]

ahahhaha was that funny? i'm a joker ig. ok I'm 22 I think.

wbu?

[exotic plume]

ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahha. yes. joker. i’m 20 i think im not sure

[rigid robin]

wow that's perfect 🤌🏻

[exotic plume]

ok i want 12 kids.

[rigid robin]

woooow that's going to be moooore perfect.

[exotic plume]

yes yes that’s awesome

ok i go sleep now

good night i love you

[rigid robin]

good night good night

[thorny steeple]

[thick pulsar]

what the hell happened here??

[thorny steeple]

People start love

[thick pulsar]

I guess love is a serious topic

[thorny steeple]

It's our turn

[tawdry mauve]

Hii chat 👋

[thick pulsar]

oh no

[thorny steeple]

Hahah hi divy

[tawdry mauve]

Wassup bruh ...

[thorny steeple]

Why are you so sad

[tawdry mauve]

No I'm not

[thorny steeple]

Haha, okay man

[tawdry mauve]

Hey miss java how are you doing...

[tawdry mauve]

Why you thought that I'm sad

[thorny steeple]

You add ...... this

I thought that is sad emotion

[tawdry mauve]

Ooooh no no no it's nothing

[thick pulsar]

horrible, otherwise I wouldn't know what java is lol

[tawdry mauve]

In which programming language you work ??

[thorny steeple]

Bro serious in programing

[tawdry mauve]

Yup

[thick pulsar]

golang, python, js/ts, bash and c++

[tawdry mauve]

Cool

[thorny steeple]

Programing final bosses💀

[thick pulsar]

lowkey yeah, I haven't started college yet

the cs market is just that cooked

[tawdry mauve]

You also work with terminal I mean linux noice man

[tawdry mauve]

That's true

[thick pulsar]

nah, I mean I have a dualboot setup running arch, but tbh I've just been using wsl. Less annoying and still can play games

[tawdry mauve]

Oooh

[tawdry mauve]

How old are you ??

[thick pulsar]

18

[tawdry mauve]

Oooh you just entered in college right...

[thick pulsar]

yup, tbh I might not even do computer science, coding is a skill not a degree after all

[tawdry mauve]

Yeah I know man

[thorny steeple]

Genius duo

[tawdry mauve]

Thanks dude

[tawdry mauve]

Btw what do you do ??

[thorny steeple]

I'm attending highschool

17years old

[tawdry mauve]

Ooooo okay

[thorny steeple]

What about you?

What do you do for a living

[tawdry mauve]

Read my bio

[thorny steeple]

Yo

That's awesome

Another level

[tawdry mauve]

Thanks man....😅

[formal pilot]

How did a socialist win it

[turbid dome]

New York became based

[ember phoenix]

what shall we say at this time?

[dapper scaffold]

HI

[rocky coyote]

congrats to all the new yorkers you will now ready yourselves to recite the syahadah and work to establish america's first ever tedious social democracy under the Yankee sanctity

[rocky coyote]

under Allah's grace chairman zohran will take over the NYPD and prepare the base for the long prophesized DSA paramilitary

[turbid dome]

Yay

Caliphate is here

[rocky coyote]

Actual Existing Caliphate Socialism

@turbid dome ok real talk what were zohran's campaigned policies

[turbid dome]

Rent freeze in city owned apartments, universal childcare, fast and free buses

[rocky coyote]

i looked at the voting trends and most people seemed to vote for him because they were fed up by cuomo

[rocky coyote]

didn't he also promise subsidies for groceries along with some progressive taxes

[turbid dome]

They’re already subsidized with no guarantee of lowering prices.

He did suggest progressive taxes and city owned grocery stores

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

[rocky coyote]

and it took a well-kept man with genuine, upstanding politician charm who dedicated his entire populist model to appeal to normal NYer concerns without going off racist tangents

[turbid dome]

Yeah true, he has a replicable platform with charisma

[rocky coyote]

i meant it took a guy like Zohran to make prospects of nationalization and subsidized average consumption look like a healthy balance between feasible and delightful on paper

[turbid dome]

Yeah true

[rocky coyote]

not an active onlooker of US electoral politics but im just hoping he won't wither into becoming the next AOC

in the mean time all white boys will be speaking a little urdu today

and democratic socialism finally grasps on tangible victory after ages

ok these policy memos are pretty good lol

[sharp creek]

make sense

[upbeat egret]

@valid plover 🇮🇷 🚀 🇮🇷 🚀 🇮🇷

[molten osprey]

[rocky coyote]

what

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qeMvOEBtOuw?si=uFT2NZxmDJ4cdXq1

Send those illegals back to where they are

Finally we can see America is going to lose the due process for regulate the President

Trump is gonna be the first emperor of the United States 🇺🇸

[charred trail]

#1006558890315497534

[verbal abyss]

What the fuck

[upbeat egret]

🇮🇷 🇮🇷 🚀 🚀

[verbal abyss]

Nothing happening

[thorny steeple]

Why so obsessed with these missiles

[high raven]

What did the dog do?

Why send missiles at it

[sharp creek]

What did the dog do?
Why send missiles at it

[plain ruin]

The dog is mossad

[thorny steeple]

Did Iran just tell the US in advance that they're gonna fire a missile at one of the US bases, so they could avoid casualties? It's just so funny and so pathetic, and I'm glad Trump pointed it out.

[high raven]

It goes both ways

[sharp creek]

why do muslims hate other muslims from other ethnic groups

whats wrong with them, are they the same religion

[thorny steeple]

I'm not sure I heard that. Where did you get this info from?

[thorny steeple]

They say it's not the same religion

[sharp creek]

hmmm

but why? they read the same book quran?

[thorny steeple]

you're referring to Shia and Sunnis maybe.

[thorny steeple]

there are other version of that garbage?

[sharp creek]

my muslim friend said the situation is more complicated, not only the differences between shia and sunnis,
they hate each other across every different ethnic groups

[thorny steeple]

Garbage ?

[thorny steeple]

read it and ull know wt i mean

[sharp creek]

you are done , muslims are ready to fight

[thorny steeple]

💣 coming im ded

[thorny steeple]

Well, I don't know why

[thorny steeple]

I've already read it and I didn't get it

[thorny steeple]

read it again

[high raven]

There were multiple instances of the IDF telling civilians and members of the Iranian army to stay away from their targets since neither of those two were the targets of the recent air strikes, neither the IDF nor the US have killed any members of the Iranian army

[thorny steeple]

It was a play, I feel like the two governments deceived us. Our thoughts are with the families of the victims. It was the weirdest conflict

[thorny steeple]

Again I did not understand.

[thorny steeple]

read the book again

[high raven]

It doesn't sound like you yourself have read it

[sharp creek]

he was kidding

[sharp creek]

he is not a muslim i think !!

[thorny steeple]

dont need to read fully just few quotes are enough ,pseudoscience bs

[thorny steeple]

This dude is talking about what?

[high raven]

Name some of them?

Calling it "garbage" without specifying how is just weird

[thorny steeple]

u do ill debate on them

[minor scroll]

hi

[thorny steeple]

ironic since muslims call it word of god without challenging it

[sharp creek]

they are bad, i think they dont like quran, dont mind

[minor scroll]

is there anyone ?

[high raven]

No idea, he seems to be just grasping at straws

[thorny steeple]

Haaaa gotcha . If you didn't like it you have to respect the religion, at least. No need to like it and read it. Know that it means a lot to some people

[high raven]

Aizen are you from India

[thorny steeple]

nuh uh

im atheist tho

[thorny steeple]

Hello

i criticize all religion equally

[high raven]

But you haven't read the Quran?

[thorny steeple]

He s free to like or not. He must respect only

[thorny steeple]

why should i respect it?

[sharp creek]

are you a muslim

[high raven]

No, but I've read the Quran

[thorny steeple]

You should respect other people's religions and they should respect you too. Mutual

[thorny steeple]

why should i respect delusions?

[high raven]

Atheism and being insufferable goes hand in hand

[sharp creek]

fk,,,,,,,,,,where are those active muslims

[thorny steeple]

Okay do whatever you want

[thorny steeple]

thx

[minor scroll]

what is going on myfrnds?

i'm new member

[prisma garden]

As for those who have rejected (these things), it is all the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them: they are not going to believe

[high raven]

Al-baqarah?

[thorny steeple]

Disrespecting Islam like that is terrible

[prisma garden]

Yes here Allah talking about all types of non believers and their weak claims of not believing

[molten osprey]

[thorny steeple]

Well, yeah, but this is different. The nuclear facilities were the targets, so the goal wasn’t to harm civilians or the Iranian army. This is unlike the Iranian airstrike on the US base, where the goal was to actually maximize casualties. Instead, it was just a show, agreed upon by both parties, so that Iran wouldn’t completely lose face among its people.

[high raven]

I understand not wanting to believe in any religion but calling a holy scripture garbage without even having to read it is just... weird

[prisma garden]

Because they know it's the truth and truth hurts

[thorny steeple]

That's not the point, he said he didn't respect all religions

[prisma garden]

Those are just haters you better ignore them they don't even deserve to reply to them

[thorny steeple]

Bruh not believing doesn't mean hating

[prisma garden]

Oh than he just an teenager who got bullied on school trying to play the superme here 😂

[prisma garden]

But not respecting means hate if we don't have the same beliefs as you I should respect yours because it's beliefs neither me nor you know who's right or wrong

[thorny steeple]

truth without any logical evidence hmm

[prisma garden]

As someone who has master degree on physics I won't go through explaining this again

[high raven]

Your code will never post if you don't say bismallah first

[thorny steeple]

damn u have a degree that means everything u say is the truth and is based on evidence

[prisma garden]

Can you measure the volume of a ball using the circle surface formula

[thorny steeple]

its almost like doing that will prove that quran god existence

[prisma garden]

Answer me can you?

[thorny steeple]

answer me wt will that accomplish?

[prisma garden]

If you failed to understand this sorry we cannot pass to the next stage

[thorny steeple]

damn u failed me what am i gonna do

[thorny steeple]

The surface formula for the volume uh nah 😭

did you know issac newton was deeply involved with alchemy and christian bible stuff does that mean bible is the truth?

[prisma garden]

Yes you are talking about logical thing without even knowing the basics of terminology

[thorny steeple]

elaborate

[prisma garden]

But he didn't denied it or mentioned that he needs logical evidence 😂

[prisma garden]

You know why?

[high raven]

Science and religion can't coexist?

[thorny steeple]

Cuz there exists another dimension?

[thorny steeple]

it can but shouldnt

u better go to a therapist if u need help

[prisma garden]

Exactly 💯

[thorny steeple]

I don’t need to read everything cover to cover to know it’s garbage, especially when it comes to topics that relate science and objective facts. I haven’t gone deep into every religious text or conspiracy theory, but I can still confidently say most or all of them are garbage too. If there’s no consensus among scientists or experts, it’s most likely false. Islam has been around long enough for plenty of smart people to read it—and many still think it’s false. It's not like taste, where there are no criteria by which we can judge.

[prisma garden]

So you can't take our laws and apply it to God, for us he is from another dimension and another material and another energy so that is mathematically and physically wrong @thorny steeple @thorny steeple

[prisma garden]

@thorny steeple learn bro

[thorny steeple]

What? Why are you mentioning me with him

[prisma garden]

Just wanted him to see that

[thorny steeple]

You cannot call them garbage tho. Change the term

[thorny steeple]

damn bro other dimension exist does that prove ur god tho?

[thorny steeple]

No, I don’t have to respect anyone’s beliefs. Beliefs are claims about truth and reality -- they’re either plausible, backed by good reasons or evidence, or they’re completely crackpot.

[prisma garden]

I'm not here to prove anything just teaching you to use your brain

[prisma garden]

Then no respect for you

[high raven]

Dismissing something as complex as religion without even trying to understand it isn’t smart skepticism, it’s just lazy. And saying something must be false just because experts don’t all agree forgets that plenty of big ideas, like the Big Bang or plate tectonics, were also once rejected by the same experts. I think people should read and form their own thoughts instead of outsourcing their belief and opinions to other sources, it's perfectly valid to be an atheist then, doing so while having zero knowledge and calling it "garbage" is again, just intellectually lazy

That's just my opinion though

[thorny steeple]

damn its almost like that was the point of this debate

Ya ppl still debating

[prisma garden]

Okay then prove that god doesn't exist

[prisma garden]

Hehehehehe

[thorny steeple]

i thought u were educated ever heard of burden of proof?

[thorny steeple]

its fun

[prisma garden]

But why I should believe burden and don't believe religion textures

[thorny steeple]

Bro they r not gonna accept ur point even if its true. Everybody here is so subjective
I remember crushin an atheist in a corner that he didn't have any argument so he just told me "I don't care if god exist or not " like bro why we're debating for hours 😭😭

[thorny steeple]

same reason u shouldnt believe anything blindly

[prisma garden]

I know bro just love to see them hitting the logic and make it cry 😂

[thorny steeple]

so true

[prisma garden]

But you do

[thorny steeple]

Ngl u rightt

[thorny steeple]

ever heard of peer review method?

i thought u had a masters in physics

[prisma garden]

I understand it do you?

[thorny steeple]

i dont think u do tho

[prisma garden]

Quantum is something advanced for you bro

[thorny steeple]

LMFAO quantum

[prisma garden]

Define light

Wait a minute

How old are you

[thorny steeple]

i mean wts that gonna prove i can just google it ?

[sharp creek]

so why do you hate other muslims

are they the same

[prisma garden]

Yes that's why I said it something advanced people study that for entire life and you understand it by Google search wow 😂

[thorny steeple]

damn u did all that and still cant prove ur gods existence crazy

[thorny steeple]

Everyone is supposed to answer your question but they changed the whole topic 😭

[sharp creek]

i see....

[prisma garden]

I don't hate anyone I don't have time for that actually

[prisma garden]

You can't approve it doesn't 😂

And you haven't study anything

[thorny steeple]

with that logic i can just say im god and u should worship me

or ull be tortured in eternal flames

[sharp creek]

shia dislike sunnis right, but ive heard that shia dont like shia from other ethnic groups either

[prisma garden]

My god said if I obey a human like me than I'm a loser 😂

[thorny steeple]

sad to hear that

[sharp creek]

even though a big part of muslims havent read quran at all

[thorny steeple]

anyways im a way better human then u so u can worship me

this shi- so funny

[prisma garden]

Do you know the plot twist between Sunnah and Shia

[hidden shore]

Bad lily?

[thorny steeple]

Maybe because of the difference in culture, traditions, politics..

[sharp creek]

i know a little about it , but they hate more than the other side

[sharp creek]

Bad Lily

[prisma garden]

Prove it

[sharp creek]

they even cant afford the history books of other countries

[prisma garden]

The problem of most people here they see some TikTok videos and came yapping without reading about anything

[sharp creek]

how do they find their enemies

[thorny steeple]

Huh? Which ones?

[sharp creek]

part of muslims

they cant even read the written language

[prisma garden]

What are you talking about man

[thorny steeple]

Everyone is a scientist until he states that the universe came from nothing

[thorny steeple]

Everyone in every country is free to read whatever book they want ( if available ofc)

[sharp creek]

i mean how do part of muslims find and learn their religious history and recognize their enemies accurately

[sharp creek]

there is no internet in many cities, however they hate some groups from other countries

[thorny steeple]

They follow their ancestors’ views?

[sharp creek]

And they cant even explain why they hate others

maybe

[prisma garden]

Actually many scientists talked about one of them is Albert Einstein and said the big bang needs a massive power that cannot be only provided by an outside super thing that should be made of another material and type of energy we know he said something like a god

[silk tulip]

Hi guys i am new here

Is anyone there

[thorny steeple]

The reason why experts initially did not accept -- “rejected” might be too strong a word -- ideas like plate tectonics or the Big Bang was that there wasn’t yet enough evidence to justify accepting these ideas, not that these theories contradicted or went totally against all the existing evidence. This is different from religious claims, which do in fact contradict already overwhelming existing evidence -- whether it’s evidence for evolution by natural selection, the age of the Earth, or established biology and physics -- or make claims so elastic and non-tangible that there is no possible way to prove or disprove them.

[thorny steeple]

Ye a lot of even atheist scientists said that "the big bang needs a massive independent power that its a necessary existence " thats literally a definition of god

[feral river]

my little stuff also have massive independent power that its a necessary existence

that fit the definition of god

[sharp creek]

hahahahahaha

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/venture-tale-roblox-low-iq-goblin-gif-26681777

[thorny steeple]

Da hell!!

[prisma garden]

Atheist claim they believe in science but they don't know any of it, bro even on science there's things we take with out proof 😂😂

[silk tulip]

[feral river]

the reality is you can believe what you don't know about

can you tell me what's the shape of the god

[thorny steeple]

Frr literally like The Dark Matter

[bronze kraken]

You are not in a voice channel

[feral river]

is that a long around 10cm that would shoot some crazy water routinely around a day ?

[prisma garden]

No I can't

[silk tulip]

Its really fun to read the chats of you guys bcz i am new here and don't know anyone

[feral river]

I can, it is the word g-o-d

🤣

[prisma garden]

There's an equation of Air and liquid flow we use it because it works but there's no mathematical proof for it until know and no solutions

[feral river]

do you think if there's no human, will there be math ?

if there's no observer, will there be anything ?

[prisma garden]

Hahaha that makes sense 🤣

[feral river]

or anything that might exist ? does it matter if there's no observer

[prisma garden]

Math was there we just discover it

[feral river]

those are very basic simple philosophy questions that would instantly kill the legitmacy of the religion and the god

[thorny steeple]

Bro thinks math is a car or an airspace 😭

[feral river]

because the religion and the god focus on belief, you have to believe it first then prove for it

[thorny steeple]

The God that Einstein believed in is very different from what most people believe in

[feral river]

but science and philsophy was the opposite, you have to proof it first then make people believe it

[thorny steeple]

Well the description that Einstein said is so close wut god is

[prisma garden]

The quantum say it will exist and not at the same time like if a tree falls on the forest and no one was there would it make a sound or not

[feral river]

religion focus on belief, science and philosophy focus on question and prove

[feral river]

but does it matter if there's no observer

for example if you can observe a thing that matters

which means you see there's a cup on your table you can use it to drink water

but what if you can't see it, does it matter to you ?

[prisma garden]

So that is your proof that god must be exit

[feral river]

the existence of god is the perfect example to proof how a thing that does not technically relevant is how being established

because you can't observe it, neither you can interact with it

so they doesn't matter

[uncut tiger]

To solve this problem we place God in the equation, and then everything makes sense. God was there to observe nothingness, and to observe the universe when there was no observer present.

[feral river]

there's no such ground you can proof a thing non-exist because you can't observe is matter to you

[feral river]

you can't put nothing in equation

[prisma garden]

Of course the cup is something exit just on your conscious but for the universe it's just waves or particles

[uncut tiger]

I put god in it

[feral river]

you make an x you need a real thing

without the real thing you don't have the variable X

[uncut tiger]

That is the rule for natural beings, god is a supernatural entity

[feral river]

it is but will you know there's a cup if you can't observe it ?

how could you be certain about a thing that you can't observe, exist

[feral river]

that's bullshit

I can say my little stuff is the rule for natural beings, that is a supernatural entity

[thorny steeple]

No, most people believe in a personal God, who gave them a book, dietary laws, and who'll either send them to heaven or hell after death. Einstein's God wasn't like that, cause he said to have believed in Spinoza's God, I think, which is not personal and doesn't interfere with this world.

There is a big gulf between those understandings of God

[thorny steeple]

Lets put the religions on side we talking abt a higher power
So that's a clear statement that god exist

[feral river]

Hail my little stuff, Hail the god!

lmfao

[prisma garden]

Now we are talking about how the universe reacts with our conscious which is something the known science failed to understand or to cover

[uncut tiger]

Ok ok you can enjoy being atheist I won't push you

Btw I heard they don't allow any religion in china

[feral river]

I don't think you can explain that by a bunch of electric particle interaction inside of your brain

that doesn't make sense

in reality if I shut your brain down you don't even know what's science or conscious

[thorny steeple]

Bro arguing with a minecraft account

[feral river]

me too

[feral river]

we have 5 recognized religion in here

[prisma garden]

Nope consciousness is something different than that it's not physical

[feral river]

even I have Chinese christian friend

[uncut tiger]

Including Islam?

[feral river]

say that after the operation of shutting down your brain is complete

then we will see how it is not physical

also making your alive

[thorny steeple]

Sure, I mean if by God you mean the laws of nature themselves, or the universe itself.

[feral river]

we can do that by modern tech

[feral river]

yes

Islam is a recognized religion in China

[thorny steeple]

Well if an atheist believes that the universe is a necessary existence so he literally means god

[uncut tiger]

Do they have the freedom to publicly practice their religion

Or is there any oppression

[prisma garden]

You don't get it for the brain is all electric signal all the same but each one of it converted into different things the best example of that is feelings

[feral river]

most of them do

some terrorist are not

[plain ruin]

the brain isn't all electric, it's also chemical, it's the chemistry that is atleast a part of what determines your feelings and moods too

[median bough]

Hello guys!

What's up?

[prisma garden]

Chemistry comes after the brain already know what it should feel so it's just a reaction

[uncut tiger]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

[thorny steeple]

Depends on the case

[prisma garden]

Yes if the attacker is Arab then it is a terro attack, everything else is just an armed attack

😂😂

There's a lot of hypocrisy in this world

[thorny steeple]

Reall the YSL case included a lot of armed attack and assassinations by blowing up cars stores but they called just "gang bangin" like it's sumth cool

What th is the definition of terrorism

[prisma garden]

Arabs defending their lands

[thorny steeple]

Not true

[thorny steeple]

FLN also was called back in the day a terrorist group

[silk tulip]

[prisma garden]

When I say a terrorist what the first thing that came into your mind be honest

[prisma garden]

Yes because it's fighting french fries 😂😂

[thorny steeple]

The Israeli government, + some Islamic extremist groups ( ISIS :ex)

[prisma cipher]

I like how zelnsky dress is evolving from military to costume, it looks almost like normal costume

[thorny steeple]

He looks tired

[prisma garden]

You are different most of people would say someone who is clothing Arab clothes with long beard

Because that's what Hollywood says 😂

[thorny steeple]

With screaming "allah akbar" idk why they think thats islamic hes only saying god is great

[thorny steeple]

I am not saying that for a reason + clothes don't matter ( none should cover their faces at the office )

[thorny steeple]

That's a stereotype only

[feral river]

they will die

[prisma garden]

That's what the media teaching them side by side to their govs

[feral river]

that's the only thing we know and the only thing we will do to them

we don't give a fuck if they are one's freedom fighter or something

and we don't have to

[prisma garden]

How mentioned face covering

[thorny steeple]

Related to clothes

[feral river]

depends on the region there was regulations

every public activity that was related to religious practice need permission from the local government

[silk tulip]

[thorny steeple]

Even if its inside ur home??

[feral river]

in public space

is your home a public space ?

[prisma garden]

Oh I see, If people just try to open their minds and educate themselves before taking it would be great

[thorny steeple]

Well that makes sense

[uncut tiger]

@feral river so where do you live in china?

[thorny steeple]

I agree with the policy

[feral river]

Jinan city, the capital of Shandong province

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinan

[thorny steeple]

You mean I should educate myself about covering the face? I don't care if people do so just they have to let us recognise them at work, school..

[prisma garden]

No I'm not talking about you, you are already well educated I'm talking on general

[thorny steeple]

Closed minset creates generalisation and generalisation creates hates

[prisma garden]

It's not that easy to be open to other opinions while they have taught about just hate and feeling superior with what they know

[feral river]

but in most cases there was few hiddle rules also it has limit

all propaganda was prohibited

and if you want to have a religious ritual with other people in public space, there are some requirements like you have to adhere the law

[prisma garden]

China government knows the danger of the western propaganda that's why most of western Media are banned there

[feral river]

and no propaganda and political content included

[uncut tiger]

Thousand Buddha mountain looks chill

[feral river]

also you can't start it from the place where's no religious people

you can't have a muslim ritual or something in most provinces

besides Xinjiang or Tibet

and Xibei region

[thorny steeple]

Well I agree with that

[silk tulip]

This is actually a serious chat

[feral river]

we can access them by get a vpn well but I don't think most people give a shit about it

you have your propaganda, we have our propaganda

both works

[prisma garden]

Western propaganda is the most powerful and effective one

[feral river]

it didn't work in our state

btw all public stuff need government permission

[silk tulip]

Thats true

[prisma garden]

It's time of praying see you later guys

[silk tulip]

Everything became silent

[thorny steeple]

Some things you see as propaganda are useful

[hollow bramble]

Welcome

English practice

Is it better to listen, speak, or both?

[silk tulip]

I might prefer listening

[unkempt ingot]

definetely speaking

[hollow bramble]

I also like to listen

[hollow bramble]

But in serious discussions I prefer to listen.

[silk tulip]

Same

[prisma garden]

I don't think so because I know how to tell the difference between something if it's normal or propaganda even though I wanna see what kind of things you are referring to

And I'm Sorry for the previous misunderstanding

[indigo lily]

Such as?

[thorny steeple]

There was no misunderstanding at all

[thorny steeple]

It does not always involve lies, it can be selective truth. For example some information coming from the media

[silk tulip]

[dire wing]

[prisma garden]

Thanks for your understanding

[turbid dome]

Rip

[olive fractal]

Big Monkey could single handedly end all wars

[turbid dome]

Yes

[olive fractal]

We should make him our eternal overlord

[turbid dome]

Nah, big reptile

[olive fractal]

Let’s just ask an expert

@manic juniper Big Monkey vs Sarcosuchus, who’d win

[manic juniper]

Stalemate, both are too big to hurt each other

Big Gator however... Purussaurus could win

[olive fractal]

But I reckon Big Monkey could still outsmart him

He’s a cunning being

[manic juniper]

Don't underestimate Big Crocodilians, they have a permanent smile on their faces for a reason

https://tenor.com/view/edward-jackson-edward-jackson-x-alligator-gif-16113254

[silk tulip]

Bcz the know you cant survive if its 1v1 with them bare hands

[unreal zinc]

Bombardino Crocodilo

[feral river]

lmao

[silk tulip]

That was my first thought after seeing that

[manic juniper]

Barone Scagazzone, un barone che caga ovunque, riempie di merda tutte le stanze del suo palazzo di sterco

[tulip zenith]

the first step before speaking is listening

[silk tulip]

[unreal zinc]

brainrot

we're