🧠｜serious-chat

[manic juniper]

They are too fat and their wings are too tiny

It's like Big Monkey and his absurd mass, yet he's not a black hole

He's still Big Monkey. How is this even possible

That's bees, not bumblebees

[uncut tiger]

this conversation is being diverted

[manic juniper]

Bumblebees are fatter and have tinier wings

It's simply not possible that a bumblebee would be able to fly

Have you ever seen Big Monkey? Lol

The mass is concentrated, more than enough even

[uncut tiger]

were talking abt homosecuality and suddenly you end up with monkey being black holes and bumblbees

[formal pilot]

It's not about aerodynamics, back in the day we weren't able to explain how B-bee can fly, recently advancements in the fluid dynamics gave us a better understanding

[night cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-gif-27671732

[frozen cape]

From a limited perspective of natural selection 🫢

[uncut tiger]

I think we should all keep our opinions to ourselves because people are fucking stupid, they believe in anything these days

[coral belfry]

i think gays are just people that have been neglected and or insecure for some reason so they decided to put hormones in their body to as they say (change their gender) instead of seeking professional help
also the leftist propaganda plays a big part in this
also there is companies that sell these hormones and preform these surgeries for them that profit a lot and it also does that leftist propagandas

[manic juniper]

How do you explain gay animals tho

[uncut tiger]

how is gay animals an argument in this

[manic juniper]

They aren't subjected to leftist propaganda or hormonal therapies

[coral belfry]

is there ones?

[manic juniper]

Because he said it's a result of hormones and propaganda, we are animals and they are too, why does this happen anyway

[manic juniper]

Yes, it's well documented in goats

[formal pilot]

Yeah it was impossible to explain but recently they came up with some fluid dynamics explanations, which sounds plausible

[uncut tiger]

so youre justifying homosexuality by saying that animals are gay, so its ok for us to be gay too

when i talk to vegans i bring up the fact that animals also eat other animals, why the fuck does this argument not work there

[coral belfry]

well i dont know about that but maybe its a natural thing in goats
but its unnatural for humans to do that

[uncut tiger]

they say that we are better than animals, we should not do as they do

now while talking about homo buttseggs you try to justify it by saying that animals do it too

[manic juniper]

How am I justifying it, I'm saying that it exists. Are you denying it? Lol

[manic juniper]

Because not all animals eat other animals

[uncut tiger]

no im not denyinng it im just saying that you cant use this argument in here

[manic juniper]

Then what's the point of the accusation

[uncut tiger]

what accusation

[manic juniper]

You don't even address the point and jump to me justifying it

When that wasn't even the point

His argument: homosexuality is caused by these things
My question: why are these animals also homosexual if they are not subjected to these things?

[uncut tiger]

theyre animals and youre better

[manic juniper]

And I don't care about vegans, I'm in favour of ethical cannibalism

[uncut tiger]

thats what the vegans say

[manic juniper]

How does buttseggs make you a bad animal

Because you didn't address and understand the point about male cousins being related

[formal pilot]

@dense agate you don't wanna miss this

[manic juniper]

"You should be able to explain it to a 6 year old!"
I LITERALLY TRIED WITH THE ANT EXAMPLE

[frozen cape]

So I just got here, was it explained already why this happens despite seemingly contradicting natural selection?

Oh it's still ongoing

[uncut tiger]

the same way animals eating other animals make them bad

[manic juniper]

Make a fucking choice you etelän vetelä

[manic juniper]

How? Who dies?

[night cedar]

what is that holy word

[formal pilot]

It was an example to show how things work in nature

[prisma cipher]

I also don't understand why they mention animals when talking about gay

[manic juniper]

What was the point of the Einstein quote if we have to bring up an actual hypothesis

[formal pilot]

Sure, it made sense to me
You might have needed a different approach

[uncut tiger]

@urban hatch i can cure your homosexuality, you just need to be able to boof stuff

[manic juniper]

Does this 6 year old not know about ad hominems but knows the grandmother hypothesis

[formal pilot]

But I've seen you shifting the goal post multiple times lol

[uncut tiger]

just give me the green light

[frozen cape]

Let me address the other one first, so I take it you're already familiar with natural selection and how traits are passed on

[manic juniper]

When I was 6 year old I knew about grasshoppers jumping away if you stepped close to them

[formal pilot]

I used to eat mud

[uncut tiger]

i can suggest turpentine oil boofing therapies which can eliminate the toxoplasma from your @sshole @urban hatch

[urban hatch]

Stoppp

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/silas-ramsbottom-despicable-me-despicable-me-4-gru-minions-gif-6896068720189785252

[uncut tiger]

this is real trust me bro a guy became straight after tthe treatment

he ssuffered with erectile dysfunction later but nitroglycerin on the peen weekly could help u with that too

[formal pilot]

How do you know

[uncut tiger]

the youtube video got taken down or else i wouldve sent u the link

@urban hatch bro u in or not

be my guinea pig

[manic juniper]

I had the same logic before, once you understand genes don't work in the same way all the times (and homosexuality isn't simply a combination of genes) you'll understand why it could make sense

[night cedar]

bud just wants to bang

[manic juniper]

In short I don't think you can explain this to a 6 year old

And this is regardless of your stance or views on homosexuality

[uncut tiger]

have you biologists managed to fabricate a scientific explanation for homosexuality

[urban hatch]

Leave me alone

[uncut tiger]

damn

[manic juniper]

No

[frozen cape]

What lead you to that conclusion about academia

[manic juniper]

Homosexuality is sociology, ask them to explain why 1400 years old poetry doesn't apply to the real world

[uncut tiger]

who is them and why is that number so specific

[feral river]

Well they have that freedom to be the homos what’s wrong with that

[frozen cape]

It doesn't answer my question

[manic juniper]

Sociologists

[uncut tiger]

i should ask sociologists that why quranic scriptures dont apply to the real world?

[uncut tiger]

are you homo too minecraft

[manic juniper]

If they involve homosexuality then why not

[formal pilot]

Understanding is not measured by simplicity alone
Simplifying something for a 6 yro isn't the only way to make your argument clear

[feral river]

Im not why would you ask that

[uncut tiger]

but they dont

[feral river]

Do you think homo is something ? I see them as regular people

Homo is actually nothing

[uncut tiger]

do you see gay peoplle inn china

[manic juniper]

Did they fabricate it 200 years later then? Idk what's in one or the other

[feral river]

You are homo, that only shows you are a homo, besides that you are nothing

[feral river]

So what I see that

[uncut tiger]

theres no homosexuality in islam

[feral river]

We have femboys even

[mystic bay]

Ew

[feral river]

Femboys that is more beautiful than woman

[uncut tiger]

-# femboys are cringe

[uncut tiger]

waddafuq

[manic juniper]

Then I guess it's fine according to Muslims

[uncut tiger]

what kind of muslims have you been talking to

[feral river]

Idc if they want to be whatever they want it’s their freedom

[uncut tiger]

cuz i have actually met an arabian guy who thinks its ok to be gay

[manic juniper]

Well you said it's not talked about, I guess it's fine

[feral river]

As long as they don’t break the law and disrupt the social order, they are just fine

[uncut tiger]

he prays 5 times a day

[formal pilot]

Islam does provide the evidence for it's existence, it's just a sin in islam

[uncut tiger]

and is gay

[feral river]

If they pull out a rainbow flag publicly so straight to jail

[manic juniper]

Does Islam say anything about videogames, I guess not. Therefore they're not good or bad

[uncut tiger]

then what are they

[manic juniper]

Amoral?

Just like eating pears

[feral river]

A toilet paper

[manic juniper]

If homosexuality isn't a subject then it's amoral too

[uncut tiger]

it does talk abt it

like @formal pilot said

[feral river]

LAW

/RULE

WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT

[manic juniper]

Then there is homosexuality in Islam

[feral river]

IS

TOILET PAPER

[manic juniper]

Is it positive or negative

[uncut tiger]

you have a thing with twisting arguments according to your will

and its fucking annoying

[manic juniper]

When

You said earlier that there isn't

Lol

[coral belfry]

yes its natural teens and young adults are more rebellious and want change sometimes even to the worse

[feral river]

use tanks

tanks will solve every opinions

[uncut tiger]

idk your arguments seem completely rational to you but to me it seems like youre just having fun playing around with me

[manic juniper]

It was a question, not an argument

[uncut tiger]

yea yea that

[manic juniper]

I don't think there is an argument in favour or against homosexuality, it's amoral

[coral belfry]

yes everyone will agree with you if everyone is dead or fear you

[uncut tiger]

thats what i answered, there actually is an argument abt homo, its prohibited

[feral river]

it seems they aren't fear me or dead if they shake their hand for an hour just to praise me

[coral belfry]

okey

[feral river]

and recognize I'm the eternal supreme leader of them

[uncut tiger]

how do you enforce law

[feral river]

guns

tanks, drones, soldiers

[manic juniper]

He's obsessed with politics

[feral river]

machine guns

[uncut tiger]

this is for the morally unclean filthy people

we can still practice law withhout enofrcement if everyone has the naivety of a child

[feral river]

idc my word is the moral

because I control the guns

[coral belfry]

yes like that time when everyone in the soviet parliament or the NK one claped for so long to the supreme leader

[manic juniper]

That just shows people who are voting right wing parties, USA doesn't have relevant parties of other alignments

[uncut tiger]

which guns do you control

[manic juniper]

They are all right wingers

[feral river]

dreaming for that every second

I would made a law that after I finished a speech everybody must clap for 2 hours

and who does not abide the law, got executed

[coral belfry]

great

[uncut tiger]

@manic juniper what religion u in

are you religious

[manic juniper]

It's not a bias, it's how it is. They are the same ideology, only one is more extreme than the other

It'd be like saying western European's parties don't tend to be closer to the centre or centre left

No, I dislike it

[manic juniper]

Not much

[thorny steeple]

WHY SO SERIOUS

[feral river]

don't worry there is Donald J. Trump, he will solve every critics and oppositions

declare the martial law

[uncut tiger]

why dont u give me a clear answer

[feral river]

imprison the opposition leader

[coral belfry]

yeah that looks like they are on average meet at 50%

[feral river]

and declare America a single party state

him as the eternal supreme leader

[manic juniper]

I don't have clear ideas on it

[feral river]

comrade Donald J. Trump

🇨🇳 🇰🇵 🇷🇺

[formal pilot]

I'm always right

[manic juniper]

No one is stopping right wingers from going to college

[uncut tiger]

so are you areligious or atheist or agnostic or what

[manic juniper]

I would like to if they did

[manic juniper]

I'm atheist in general

I don't think gods exist or anything that would fit that definition

I don't rule out there being things that don't fit the natural world out there

[formal pilot]

Am i a bad person for validating anti-vaxxers so they get eliminated quickly?

[manic juniper]

That they'd rather complain about something they're not part of?

[coral belfry]

yep some of them
i heard that "challenging society" thing from an other intellectual

[feral river]

I'm not an atheist, I'm theist

[manic juniper]

I'm in favour of them too

[feral river]

I created world just a second ago you didn't notice

[manic juniper]

I'm just sad for their children

[feral river]

and I'm the eternal supreme leader according to the Cible

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[uncut tiger]

what religion were you born into?

[manic juniper]

Could be true, can you bring back the Mesozoic

[manic juniper]

None, my dad is atheist, my mum grew up atheist but used to be Catholic for a time

[formal pilot]

"stop taking everything literally" once a non wise man said

[vagrant swan]

doesnt directly talk about it, talking about time consuming things

[manic juniper]

Can you point me to where I stated that

I have right winger friends Minecraft is one of them

[formal pilot]

I'm sad no major religion talked about Utahraptor

[manic juniper]

Are you sure

If you get into Mesoamerican religions they all stem from that

The vision serpent archetype god is nothing more than a metaphor for pterosaurs or dinosaurs

[coral belfry]

yes i dont know that much about that i just heard it from an other intellectual

[formal pilot]

Sounds like scam

[uncut tiger]

is greater israel agenda a real thing?

[manic juniper]

Quetzalcoatl Coatlicue Tēteoh īnnān Cihuacōātl Coyolxāuhqui Huītzilōpōchtli Xiuhcoatl Xipe Totec Xīlōnen-Chicomecōātl Chalchiuhtlicue K’uk’ulkan Tepeu Qʼuqʼumatz

[coral belfry]

still not sure

[manic juniper]

I didn't believe in it but seeing their recent developments it seems to be their policy (or will be)

[gritty echo]

Bruh

[manic juniper]

How could that not be a living god

[gritty echo]

Using ai not making me stupid , even learning how to use ai is a different thing

Is Fast Connection to Information = Stupidity for you

But I see you just call everyone like that it makes you the biggest stupid btw

[formal pilot]

Quetzalcoatl – Feathered Serpent, a god of wind, wisdom, and creation
Sounds like pterosaurs

There's no Utahraptor

[manic juniper]

It's just to simplify to Americans

They understand big and round numbers better

[manic juniper]

Because it's supposed to be the living soul of their shared ancestry, scaly and feathery features into one

[formal pilot]

We should be glad that it's not alligator per diet cola

[real monolith]

Hey🫣

[tepid fiber]

Yo

[formal pilot]

Because it wasn't the apex predator

[gritty echo]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-t-rex-gif-5311357977527949159

[formal pilot]

Do you have any classified information from the work place? Can you please share it here so the English hub ends up in the news

[gritty echo]

Apex predator

[manic juniper]

Lol I signed some NDAs, I better not

[prisma cipher]

Not everyone.

[formal pilot]

We should give more credits to Mosasaurus ngl

[gritty echo]

Except yourself sure

[prisma cipher]

I call myself stupid

[formal pilot]

Literally 1984

[gritty echo]

[formal pilot]

Anyway have a lovely day guys, I'm out

[prisma cipher]

[manic juniper]

And Hatzegopteryx

[feral river]

a statistic with one factor which does not compound with other one's which covering very much of the decisive fields, what you are expecting from these

we have modern tech to calculate relevance by math, statisticology exists

btw even under the rule of nature, the people who are more aged are going to be more stubborn, we have a lot of people when there's no space for massive politicial participation environments

that's one of main reason that old people are tend to choose conservatism and youngs are more pro-liberal

and about university education, well most of the unis in America was being funded by leftist democrats, some uni even have 80% of the people who are pro-liberal

go on

I welcome every challange

some

that's the truth more university promote left values and they have more people in such field

or naturally because even they didn't promote left values but promoted modern progressive values that reject some ideas of the old shit, they still likely to embrace liberalism rather than conservatism

that makes all sense

[verbal abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/javier-milei-espada-javier-milei-leono-gif-2490565983986678593

[frozen cape]

Has it occurred to you that those who lean left perhaps self select when it comes to academics

[static pivot]

Im tired

This racism

[frozen cape]

Because one is forced to emphasise on inquiry, critique, etc

[static pivot]

[feral river]

racism is just racism, that was mostly unjustifiable in current world

[frozen cape]

The "bias" is that it doesn't avoid being contrarian, it welcomes critique, it questions the status quo, etc

[static pivot]

This bitch literally added me and dmed

The moment I said india

Blocked me

[feral river]

I see a lot of people trying to expand the concept of racism in a very much irrevelent field like ethnicity and nationalities

[static pivot]

@sage spindle

[feral river]

but sorry that aren't racism

[static pivot]

I'll decide that

[feral river]

you have that power ofc you decide that

[static pivot]

See decided

[feral river]

good

[verbal abyss]

Did you call me

Vivek i like your new nickname color

[verbal abyss]

Okay

[shy summit]

So there was a study on this, can’t for the life of me find it atm, but as it turns out schools do not promote left wing bias, it turns out teaching things like media literacy reduced a likelihood of believing misinformation which has a huge right wing bias

[feral river]

Basically you have the chance to gain access to these progressive values in universities where you can approach other people in different race, nationality and ethnicity, also there was some courses do commit and based on leftism values

A typical one would be LGBT, I think you are well familiar with that one

[shy summit]

You mean tolerance? That just comes from exposure to other people bro, it’s called being social.

[feral river]

Also Trump is trying to silence them as much as possible, we can see that

[shy summit]

And it got shut down in court

[feral river]

That’s not very natural, the truth is most people do stay in their own social area which have very high possibility of the people in it shares the common race and belief

[verbal abyss]

Promoting left values is like promoting pizza to the person with cheese allergy

[feral river]

Increasing conversation is making these people changing their mind from being closed to open and being progressive even be a leftist

I’m not saying it’s bad but it do work like this

[shy summit]

Its becoming less and less common

[feral river]

And aren’t we the terrible example of all these ? In our education system you see people blindly following the order is being encouraged for all the time, that’s the reason we have a bunch of fascists

[shy summit]

Transportation and increased flow of information leads to social and physical mixing of people and their ideas. It is an inevitability that society becomes more multi-opinionated multi-racial and multifaceted

[feral river]

Yeah because you have this way to open their mind

But we are doing the opposite, that’s why I’m saying it

[shy summit]

So you want to stall progress because what? It’s old? Seems like a shitty reason to avoid increased peace among different demographics

[feral river]

No it’s all good, but I think conservatism need to reform to deal with such situation, they need upgrade to survive out of this

Trump can’t shut down all the schools

[shy summit]

That’s deformation, not reform.

Regression on conservation

[turbid dome]

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trump-secretly-greenlit-iran-war

[feral river]

The premise is you have this environment, but in most countries including here we are all looked the same, plus there’s very strong nationalistic spirit indoctrinated for all the time, people would naturally dislike or even discriminate the people who don’t look to be ‘one of us’

That’s where the racism all begins

[shy summit]

Yes. And there is no need for it in a multiracial society as there is no one idea of what ‘one of us’ looks like.

[feral river]

That justified leftism, but they still going the opposite, which is create race barrier and strengthen their racial supremacy ties to the history, so I won’t say you guys did a good job on this

Create race barrier is the stupidest choice in a multiracial state

[shy summit]

What race barrier?

[feral river]

Racial separation and discrimination

[shy summit]

The point is to reduce that

[feral river]

I don’t know since when reduce discrimination is leftism

[manic juniper]

They didn't expect it would become like that

[feral river]

Probably because of white supremacy shit

[formal pilot]

I miss Obama tweets ngl, trump got similar writing abilities as mine

[thorny steeple]

His voice is scary 👻

[lunar stream]

ye's tweets are better

[formal pilot]

He should join english hub and work on fluency tbh

[formal pilot]

Specially the deleted once

[thorny steeple]

My Scottish friend always bullies the Americans’ accent 😭. Personally, I like it.

[verbal abyss]

Why aren't you gonna do it...

[thorny steeple]

To do what?

Wdym Concombre ?

[hallow sable]

wow

Are u awake yet?

[thorny steeple]

Shalom how's ya

[mystic pebble]

Nice pfp kuku

[turbid vigil]

@torn jasper bro

Can any mods help my friend to get image perm/role? Please

[thorny steeple]

Ask this @whole beacon

[turbid vigil]

Thank you so much

@whole beacon Hello sir! I am one of the mods in the 24 7 VC. Sorry to bother you, but can you help my friend @torn jasper get an image role please?

[hallow sable]

good and u

[thorny steeple]

Doing alright

[hallow sable]

@thorny steeple u dont sleep?

[thorny steeple]

It's 11: 15 pm, I am still suffering from insomnia

@whole beacon I see you have a new pfp as always Roma delenda est!

[thorny steeple]

Welcome to team no sleep

I sleep at 4am and wake up at 7 am

[hallow sable]

its soo bad

[thorny steeple]

For real

[hallow sable]

do you have anxiety?

[thorny steeple]

Understandable I wake at 4AM and sleep at 3/6PM

[hallow sable]

or something

[thorny steeple]

Insomnia and sleep disorders

[hallow sable]

that's not healthy at all.

[thorny steeple]

What do you do at 4am? I wasted my time this week the only thing I am doing is taking Spanish courses and swimming

[thorny steeple]

The classic Combo

[thorny steeple]

Waste my time then sleep 😴

[thorny steeple]

I know. It's a bad habit, I am going to try to fix it.

Since I graduate now I sleep whenever i feel like it

[hallow sable]

Well, I probably won't be able to sleep tonight, for obvious reasons, but I'm not sleepy so whatever.

[thorny steeple]

I live in Discord lol

[thorny steeple]

The reasons: ballistic missiles

[thorny steeple]

Me too but on YouTube

[verbal abyss]

Damn

[hallow sable]

Well, I'm still at home here. And I live in Tel Aviv.

[verbal abyss]

The USA might directly join the conflict today

[verbal abyss]

Be careful

[hallow sable]

Thx mate.

[thorny steeple]

Definitely prayers for the folks in Iran

[thorny steeple]

How's the missiles barrage , has it stop?

[thorny steeple]

I just realised my name is Hebrew, and also my second name is the name of a Jewish person damnnn

[verbal abyss]

They will just bomb some living accommodations and then post AI video lol

[thorny steeple]

Yep. What about your country? Are you joining too?

[hallow sable]

Our system is not designed to shoot down ballistic missiles, but it has done a great job.

[thorny steeple]

Definitely lmao

[thorny steeple]

Yeah I was like damn Tel Aviv is getting hammered

[manic juniper]

Is it Martha

[verbal abyss]

Sure im on the way, already packing my stuff

[thorny steeple]

No

[verbal abyss]

Im pretty close to Iran

[hallow sable]

Why damn? If you have medicines like amoxycillin for high blood pressure, thank the Jews.

[thorny steeple]

To fight against Iran? Or Israel? Maybe both

[whole beacon]

Indeed my sire

[verbal abyss]

I will choose something in between... Iraq maybe

[hallow sable]

It was a bit, but the Iranian aim is not so good. They're celebrating a missile ‘falling’ near the Mossad.

[whole beacon]

Roma invicta

[thorny steeple]

Well the airport seems nearby I be back after helping the workers there!

[thorny steeple]

I admit that jews are developed in the medicine and pharmacy fields. Mom read their articles since she is a doctor of pharmacy

[thorny steeple]

How's ya man today

[thorny steeple]

Choose us

[verbal abyss]

You meant choose US

[hallow sable]

Not only that, but also technology. The father of computing Alan Turing was also a Jew.

[thorny steeple]

Or Syria I hear Damascus is a great city

[thorny steeple]

Well they have the missiles minus the trajectory machines

[thorny steeple]

The question in ma mind why my names have a Hebrew meaning 😳😳

[thorny steeple]

Wdym?

[thorny steeple]

Nah France . But, it is okay if you choose the USA it's your classical enemy

[hallow sable]

What your name?

[thorny steeple]

I don't mean anything, it's weird lol.

[hallow sable]

I can check.

[thorny steeple]

Lmao what's the meaning

[whole beacon]

Been welll hbu

[thorny steeple]

No meaning duh

[thorny steeple]

Am good this Fine cloudy day

[manic juniper]

Frog

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[thorny steeple]

Big monkey

[hallow sable]

its Princess

[thorny steeple]

Why do you ask?

[thorny steeple]

I dunno

It's Hebrew anyway

[thorny steeple]

I thought there was meaning

[hallow sable]

Yes, that's what it means.

[thorny steeple]

For example?

[hallow sable]

lol

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[hallow sable]

Her literal name is ‘Princess’ in Hebrew.

Sarra, sra (סרה).

[thorny steeple]

In old Hebrew or modern Hebrew?

[thorny steeple]

That doesn't make me Hebrew, mom chose it. I am going to ask her why later

[manic juniper]

It's a popular name

[hallow sable]

XD

And who says that having a Hebrew name makes you a Hebrew?

[thorny steeple]

Yes, it is.

[thorny steeple]

None I am saying this to my mind

[hallow sable]

My name is Aaron, and I'm not the Adam of the Bible.

XD

[thorny steeple]

True so apart from Hebrew how many languages do you know?

[hallow sable]

I love learning languages. So I know Hebrew, English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian and a little German.

[manic juniper]

Isn't John an Hebrew name too

[thorny steeple]

French, really?

[thorny steeple]

Nice Spanish is my native language lol

[hallow sable]

Oui.

[thorny steeple]

Joseph too?

[hallow sable]

Really? are u from Spain? or LATAM?

[manic juniper]

Idk I assume it is

[thorny steeple]

Dominican Republic aka Caribbean the forgotten place

[hallow sable]

Joseph is a biblical name of Hebrew origin, derived from the Hebrew name Yosef, meaning "God will increase".

[thorny steeple]

C’est formidable 🙂‍↔️

[thorny steeple]

Mama mia so you ever travel to Europe?

[hallow sable]

mdr

[hallow sable]

yes

[thorny steeple]

Noice

[thorny steeple]

Noah?

[hallow sable]

nice place.

[hallow sable]

yes it

[thorny steeple]

Indeed good beaches and the gleaming ocean

[hallow sable]

Btw Noah has a great meaning for Jews.

[hallow sable]

and good womans.

🤣

[thorny steeple]

Definitely

[thorny steeple]

Is it expensive?

[thorny steeple]

Women*

[hallow sable]

true

[thorny steeple]

Hella inexpensive if you have USD

[hallow sable]

my mistake!!

[thorny steeple]

I admire everything in blue 🥹🩵

[thorny steeple]

Euro

[hallow sable]

Euro is more good.

[thorny steeple]

Works too

[thorny steeple]

That's alright it just grinded my English brain for a moment

[hallow sable]

I've been awake for over 24 hours, lol.

[thorny steeple]

Lol the missiles keeping ya awake?

[hallow sable]

the sirens bother me sometimes, I can't sleep haha

[thorny steeple]

Yeah who could ever catch a glimpse of sleep under that damned sound lol

[thorny steeple]

Omg I checked. It's an amazing place to get a tan skin lol

[hallow sable]

Yes, it's true.

[thorny steeple]

Definitely come to Santiago lol

[hallow sable]

I'm putting the Dominican Republic on my travel radar.

[thorny steeple]

That's great

[thorny steeple]

Convince my parents to lemme travel alone outside Europe 😭

[hallow sable]

I hope my Israeli passport works, otherwise I'll have to use my EU passport lol

[manic juniper]

Do that slowly, make them travel to Cyprus and to the Canaries first

[thorny steeple]

Just show them the beaches and they be mesmerized

[thorny steeple]

Lol dual citizenship eh?

[hallow sable]

🫡

[thorny steeple]

I will

[manic juniper]

What is the other

[verbal abyss]

I think its time to look for a shelter

[verbal abyss]

Lucky thing

[thorny steeple]

Very depends on what country you can have maximum or less range of access to other nations

[hallow sable]

I'm fine here bro, thanks for your concern.

[verbal abyss]

As more passports as better

[hallow sable]

thank you, but i want the promised virgin marys.

[thorny steeple]

Definitely getting 4 different passports be like

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

Singapore passport:1

[verbal abyss]

3 is enough

[thorny steeple]

Omg omg lol

[thorny steeple]

The major 4 in my interest be, Monaco, San Marino, Switzerland, new Zealand

[hallow sable]

hahahahaha

[thorny steeple]

True USA, Russia, China

[verbal abyss]

I got 1/3

My goal is Russia Argentina Spain

[thorny steeple]

I only got 2 the American and Dominican passport

[verbal abyss]

USA is enough

But you can't buy beer in Belgium

[thorny steeple]

Well the Dominican passport comes in handy!

[manic juniper]

That's racist

[verbal abyss]

Racist: That's racist

[manic juniper]

Racist: Racist: That's racist

[thorny steeple]

I can't spell the word ( racist) anymore lol

[verbal abyss]

Racist: Racist: Racist: That's racist

[thorny steeple]

I am not racist 🤭😻

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

Says that racist friend

[thorny steeple]

I am not nice but I am not racist

[hallow sable]

average depressive

[manic juniper]

This is the racist channel

[thorny steeple]

That's true you're an alright person lol

[thorny steeple]

Lol Aladdin's channel lmao

[fleet niche]

https://tenor.com/view/renault-car-sports-car-gif-2473454790214825457

[hallow sable]

Wow

just intercepted an attack.

Am Yisrael Chai!

[bold forum]

how patriotic of you

intercepted an attack or intercepted a retaliation

that's the question

[turbid dome]

Intercepted the consequences of Israel’s actions.

[manic juniper]

You almost said "reptile" at least three times there

Just say it already.

[thorny steeple]

What do you think about it?

[bold forum]

was something confusing

[manic juniper]

REPTILES

[bold forum]

reptile

heh

[manic juniper]

As it should be

[bold forum]

ohh haha i thought it was the opposite

[turbid dome]

Intereptiled an attack or intereptiled a reptaliation

[turbid dome]

@manic juniper

[manic juniper]

Reptile an attack or reptile a reptile

[turbid dome]

Reptile moment

[bold forum]

btw, my bad for not pinging you in my attack retaliation reply to your message

[verbal abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/carolina-anole-lizard-gif-8403856184857444730

[turbid dome]

Reptile reply

[bold forum]

i always feel bad retaliating to people without forewarning

[turbid dome]

Let me preemptively violate UN Charter Article 2(4) because I sense the threat of blunket

[bold forum]

i also K-bombed you without warning, my bad for the K bomb

[turbid dome]

There’s WMDs in Iraq(Kansas)

[manic juniper]

Australia has WMDs, some are endangered

They used to live in peace under the dominion of reptiles

[turbid dome]

Wombat Missile Destroyers?

Uh yeah absolutely, they prefer destruction

Also they just don’t care about Palestinians

[manic juniper]

How many people are named Israel in Israel

[turbid dome]

At least the defense minister

[thorny steeple]

All of them

I want to talk about vegans but I lack sufficient info

[manic juniper]

In favour or against

[manic juniper]

How, are they Nigerians?

[turbid dome]

They’re evil, duh

[thorny steeple]

Neither in favor nor against. Just to discuss them

[thorny steeple]

Nigerians? ???? What is the relation between them?

[turbid dome]

Digest*

[manic juniper]

I recall the absolute embarrassment when they were shouting "Yisrael" or "Israel" at my university, people thought there was someone insane there when they were just calling a Nigerian student

[thorny steeple]

Why

[manic juniper]

Manu Nigerians are named Israel or Yisrael

[turbid dome]

Lmaoooo

[turbid dome]

I’m joking, I just disagree with them on a short-mid term basis

[thorny steeple]

I eat meat 😋

[turbid dome]

Same

[bold forum]

i went vegetarian for a little over 2.5 years

[thorny steeple]

Does it work for you?

[turbid dome]

lol it includes ALL October 7th deaths? Some of them were military lol

[bold forum]

it was fine but i didn't like missing out on food from other cultures

also veganism isn't worth it and it's not just because of cheese

[turbid dome]

Hence the civilian percentage lol

[turbid dome]

Yup

[turbid dome]

Losing cheese is impossible

[bold forum]

i found a local meat store and so i know all its meat is ethically sourced

[thorny steeple]

Okay. Don't you want to eat meat now?

[turbid dome]

But yeah imo life is meaningless so enjoy yourself, so maybe on a long term basis there could be vegan alternatives which taste the same or better than real animal products but until then I would rather not

I’ll pull up the data

[thorny steeple]

Cheese is delicious especially Le Camembert

It is. Yummy

[manic juniper]

Sea scorpion pulp is delicious

[thorny steeple]

What about fish 🐟 it's excellent

[thorny steeple]

I didn't try it. I adore eating seafood

[turbid dome]

According to Action on Armed Violence, the attacks which took place on October 7th, 2023 total 1,269 deaths, with 816 civilians and 13 EMS, to total 829 civilians, not the traditional 1,200 number, which includes 59 police and 382 military. As the police on October 7th were participants in hostilities, they are valid military targets under international law, per the International Committee of the Red Cross. Additionally, an unknown amount of civilians took up arms and directly participated in combat, such as these anecdotes reported by The Jerusalem Post, making them a combatant and valid military target under international law(see footnote 2). Israel also killed an unknown amount of its own civilians and soldiers, making the actual amount of civilians killed by the Hamas-led faction on October 7th, 2023 unclear.

https://aoav.org.uk/2023/an-analysis-of-the-7th-of-october-2023-casualties-in-israel-as-a-result-of-the-hamas-attack/

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/FAQ-rules-of-war-ihl

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-768965

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-forces-killed-israeli-civilian-covered

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-ordered-hannibal-directive-on-october-7-to-prevent-hamas-taking-soldiers-captive/00000190-89a2-d776-a3b1-fdbe45520000

tl;dr we can’t track the exact amount of hamas crimes against non-combatants, but estimates range from the 600-800 range

[manic juniper]

Many hyperlinks

[turbid dome]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Not all types have too much( tuna as an example ) , also you have to try Mediterranean sardines

[manic juniper]

I don't follow the horoscope

[turbid dome]

No I wrote this as a copy paste and the links didn’t work properly

[manic juniper]

When you rely so much on AI you assume everyone else does too

[bold forum]

i witnessed martini writing this

[manic juniper]

[turbid dome]

Not at all

[bold forum]

no AI used

[manic juniper]

AI gets destroyed by water, turtles do not

[turbid dome]

Lmao

[manic juniper]

Another victory for reptiles

[turbid dome]

Based turtles

Oh

No it’s literally a pdf file

lol

Why use AI when you can spend your time researching stuff on your own way more accurately

But not accurate

[manic juniper]

Lazier and less accurate

[turbid dome]

It just compiles top results which aren’t always the best

Oftentimes they’re not

[manic juniper]

Plus AI is biased towards left leaning sources

[turbid dome]

That’s funny

Yes

[bold forum]

ai is a scourge upon the world

[turbid dome]

It’s insanely right leaning, Reddit is calling for invading Iran when the majority of people don’t want that

Kamala, that just makes them delusional liberals, not left leaning

[bold forum]

reptAIles

[manic juniper]

I'm not left leaning but I also thought Kamala was going to win because Trump said some very stupid things

Isn't it logical

[high raven]

I see them everywhere

[turbid dome]

I knew Trump was going to win the popular vote and only had doubts over the electoral college. I changed my position final day

Yes

[manic juniper]

Kamala would be centre right in Czechia

[turbid dome]

Yeah though tbf you also can never understand the stupidity of Americans until you visit here

They’re center right

That’s far right

[manic juniper]

I thought Fox was centrist because the Simpson aired on it, didn't they

[turbid dome]

Ok their entertainment is a bit seperate lol

[manic juniper]

Then I watched what else other than the Simpsons they put on there

Borderline disinformation

[bold forum]

i would like a news source that gives facts instead of opinions

[turbid dome]

Though technically Murdoch said in Australia in front of a court that it’s not news, it’s entertainment

[manic juniper]

Or just unapologetic disinformation if they can

[turbid dome]

lol those quizzes are bullshit, and that framing is suffering from the Overton window

Reality is Marxist as they say

[bold forum]

political bias would be irrelevant if only facts were reported

[manic juniper]

Vaccines are communism

[turbid dome]

ChatGPT’s bias is the training data, and again, Overton window

If party 1 is considered left and wants to kill 50% of people, and party 2 is considered right and wants to kill 90% of people, when chat GPT says murder is wrong it’s painted as far left instead of the parties being right

[manic juniper]

Reptiles are antivax but for good reasons

They are antivax for themselves because it will force reptiles to improve

https://tenor.com/view/t-rexes-cute-gif-18212995078965352910

[turbid dome]

“Rather than a precise snapshot in time, one individual, reading each post and the first 3 pages of comments, subjectively determined if the post was supportive or against a political party, a political figure, or the party’s supporters. For comparison, LGBT and animal/insect posts were also recorded. The top 25 posts and top 100 posts were calculated separately.”

So it’s not even in contention with what I’m saying. It’s saying Reddit leans democrat and equating democrats with left. I agree it leans democrat, but that’s hardly leaning left

[bold forum]

this is exactly why we should stop performing coronectomies and allow nature to take its course

we are interfering with evolution though medical science

[turbid dome]

Nothing about them is left, only if you focus on the micro part of this. Being more left than a fascist party (barely) isn’t left.

[bold forum]

how will humans ever evolve out of having wisdom teeth if we keep stopping people from dying

[thorny steeple]

I don't find my political spectrum. I used to consider myself a centrist now I am nothing

[manic juniper]

I think people's issues with wisdom teeth are small jaws, it's possible that their jaws would accommodate them if they ate tougher food

My jaw is immense but unfortunately I have no wisdom teeth

They'd erupt perfectly

[turbid dome]

Comparing democrats to your average OECD nation liberal party you’ll find liberals in other OECD nations favor keeping universal healthcare, democrats (the party, not the base) are against it. Same for public transport, etc.

[bold forum]

i am genuinely in awe that you actually came up with an alternative solution

[thorny steeple]

How can be an immense jaw?

[turbid dome]

Well that’s the thing, it doesn’t represent left. Being to the left of Hitler isn’t left

[manic juniper]

It's common in my country

[turbid dome]

They’re relatively left, but not totally left

[manic juniper]

All of the Nordics and Eastern Europe, even in Central Europe to be fair

[turbid dome]

Were they removed?

[manic juniper]

No

[turbid dome]

Why don’t you have them then

[manic juniper]

I don't have any at all

[manic juniper]

They're more common in Southeast Asians

[turbid dome]

Weird, I got mine removed at 13 ig

[turbid dome]

lol but I’m not Asian at all

0.2% (jk)

[manic juniper]

They're less common but people still have them elsewhere

[turbid dome]

Here a ton of people have them

[manic juniper]

Genetic drift moment

[turbid dome]

Generally left is defined as anti-capitalism in the egalitarian direction, whereas right is adherence to current systems like capitalism or reverting to past ones like feudalism

[turbid dome]

lol fair

[manic juniper]

I think mammals tend to the extremes

[turbid dome]

What

[manic juniper]

Since their ancestors ruled during the Paleozoic and now through the Cenozoic

Reptiles are radical centrists because of the Mesozoic

[turbid dome]

Yup

[manic juniper]

They support the dismantling of anything non-reptile

[turbid dome]

Yes that’s called branding

They’re not going to call themselves the Repressive dictatorship of Korea

[manic juniper]

The definition of democracy is quite vast

[turbid dome]

How is that what I’m doing

[turbid dome]

Yup

[manic juniper]

North Korea is a democracy, just different from Athenian democracy or Swiss democracy

The democrats are democratic

[turbid dome]

But these terms do mean something. You would be claiming that North Korea is a democracy if we were to flesh this comparison out

[turbid dome]

In its inception, not in current day form

[manic juniper]

Do you not know about the Novgorod Republic and Athens's city-state?

[turbid dome]

I’m like 90% sure they’re joking

[turbid dome]

@manic juniper ?

[formal pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1211329848874762281.gif

[turbid dome]

I would say they’re pretending to be kukumberists

No

I would say they’ve bastardized it

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism

Yes, it's a very generic term

Many leftists in USA have their own concept of what a social democracy is, which is something slightly more left than the democrats

Even our most far right party wouldn't be that capitalistic

Those are just individual elements

Czechia is mostly centre right and has all of those

Even more social welfare, for example free housing for those who don't have it, more laws directed towards healthier work environments and longer leaves for parents, more welfare for the infants and toddlers provided by the state

These are just few

Free buckets makes the country very left leaning, my country has free buckets (sometimes)

This is a weird standard to apply to determine what's left and what is right

USA would make China look like extreme left under some aspects and my country would be a literal utopia

May as well rename it to Communistia

Minecraft is Chinese and he doesn't consider it left

He loves how the CCP works

And he doesn't consider it communist

I mean is it, its ideology is anything but communism or even socialism

Yes I know

[turbid dome]

I would rather have the Chinese government compared to the American one, but I would rather have the Finnish one then China

[manic juniper]

The Chinese government is evil but in a more competent way it seems

[turbid dome]

Exactly

[manic juniper]

It also seems like their lower levels are even more corrupt than the American ones tho but idk to what extent

Those buildings made of tofu and soy sauce

[turbid dome]

Both suck and commit human rights abuses, so might as well get trains

[manic juniper]

It's possible to be evil and progresses, South Korea too

They did most of their relevant progresses under a terrifying military dictatorship

[turbid dome]

Perfect example lol, military dictatorship puppet state turned democracy but still has the Japanese collaborator class

[manic juniper]

But it's better to do big progress without being evil

Now I don't know which country would fit that category

Maybe Iceland? Not much tho

Post Soviet Poland, Lithuania and Estonia maybe

I think it's a weird strongman myth people have, especially if they are from underdeveloped countries. I heard Filipinos argue this too, but their country was literally sent back to the stone age by Ferdinand Marcos

And now it's just a game of Risk played by three influential families

[turbid dome]

Women have gone woke

[manic juniper]

Yes, men need to follow people like Andrew Tate less

[turbid dome]

Jk

[manic juniper]

I would just ban most of these unmoderated social media

Not if there is a better alternative

Yes, one of the sides or more will be silenced, the most threatening ones

Yes

No I don't like billionaires

shit flag

[turbid dome]

Didn’t you text me the other day saying “I love billionaires more then reptiles”

[manic juniper]

But no it's a private company, it doesn't have to comply with free speech in my country if it's established abroad

[manic juniper]

When

[turbid dome]

In my dreams, therefore it’s real

I definitely 100% dreamed this so I can undermine you

Jk

[manic juniper]

I would love billionaires if everyone was one

The good ending

I am in favour, we don't live in one

?

I don't find it cute

[rocky coyote]

she literally said "private company" why did that person reply with communist manifesto

[rocky coyote]

guy who only understands communism through reddit memes and 1984

i never said anything about ideal communism what

and my impression of your stance is simple 😭

sure man

ehhh why not? they're authoritarian states that failed to achieve the prerequisites for a stage in capitalism where they would self-abolish

are you still on the fence of me infantilizing your scary state supervision idea of communism when i was just sneering over it

[terse oxide]

communism and capitalism are political words, the economy in china is close to free market than gov regulation

[rocky coyote]

are you minecraft

[terse oxide]

it's about policy

[rocky coyote]

you can't find a more validating example of the chinese free market post deng xiaoping than jack ma, lets be serious here

[terse oxide]

there are companies that belongs to the gov, yet they normally can't compete with the relugar buinesses

Alibaba want's to replace the central bank of china using it's app, what else could ccp do?

[rocky coyote]

the only regulation binding big private chinese companies is for their expansion to present mutual benefit to the state, something which is greatly compensated and liberally maintained by the party

youre right, i wasnt trying to reason i was memeing lol

but "complicated language"????

is it because i used "prerequisite" and "sneer"

[terse oxide]

where do you com from, I'm form china

[rocky coyote]

i wrote it just fine though

[terse oxide]

I can always imagine

yep

yes

the one in my campany

not sure

companies are always allowed to use vpn, otherwise how the foreign busniess work?

yes that's it

well, that's not a simple question, most vpn that faces to indevidual are black listed by the gov periodly

[hushed stone]

Is trump is great president?

[terse oxide]

I don't know how to use that, never heared before

usually I rely on vpn

I think I've heared something similar like onion browser, are they the same thing?

I see

well, I need to back to work, It's 9:40 am

[thorny steeple]

@grand prism whats so serious now

[terse oxide]

bye

[thorny steeple]

Whats the news

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/party-party-time-the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-gif-21125170

Like what?

Oh I see, just read what ru guys talking

Now let's troll some woke people

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

Fine

[manic juniper]

I didn't get it either

Like Yugoslavia allowed private companies of max 50 employees to exist

That's not a threat to any state owned company

[rocky coyote]

were you talking about yugoslavia

[manic juniper]

No I wanted a better and more moderated social media alternative that isn't subjected to the laws of my country

[lofty hound]

?def ran

[cursive bobcat]

Word: ran

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by dyocta

[rocky coyote]

guy saw moderate intervention and his neurons flared up lol

[manic juniper]

Does he really think that current social media allow full freedom of speech?

[rocky coyote]

the way i see it, it's not so much about controlled internet sentiments more than it is about letting the other side dominate the environment of opinions. they used to rampantly clamp "the woke" or whatever until they found out it's easier to engineer algorithms where even fascistic angles become the soft status quo

[thorny steeple]

I only know one thing... both sides of the war are wrong.

[rocky coyote]

that, ofc, includes the surge of andrew tate's brand of modern misogyny

[manic juniper]

I would allow this but shadow ban it

And many things I don't agree with

People will assume they still can say that and are free to do so as long as they don't go too far

This way it doesn't lose too much traffic

[thorny steeple]

It was already unethical for Israel to want to attack an Iranian TV station that had nothing to do with it other than simply broadcasting the news. The argument should have been between the war leaders and not the civilians.

[manic juniper]

Send it here

I don't add strangers

[thorny steeple]

they should at least ask the local population to evacuate

[rocky coyote]

the barest minimum i'll pull off is boosting posts that make fun of them for being too weird about women

[manic juniper]

Yes I would do that too, I would manipulate it in my favour while still giving an illusion of freedom and equality of opinions

[rocky coyote]

not exactly illusory when its pretty clear the algorithm favours one group (the correct one)

why would i do that

[high raven]

Lol

[manic juniper]

There are better ideologies for those men like the men's liberation movement

[lofty hound]

?def eden

[cursive bobcat]

Word: eden

Definition 1 (noun): a beautiful garden where Adam and Eve were placed at the Creation; when they disobeyed and ate the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they were driven from their paradise (the fall of man)
Definition 2 (noun): any place of complete bliss and delight and peace

Definition requested by dyocta

[manic juniper]

It's just less popular and feminism isn't popular amongst men

There are many things that are better and less popular

[high raven]

What made you think of the garden of Eden?

[manic juniper]

There is no ideal form of anything, it's important to strive for it

Feminism would be popular because men would be free to be masculine, neutral or feminine however they wish without getting judged as much

[formal pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1211329848874762281.gif

[lofty hound]

I dont know
maybe it is an absorption from Arabic (idn/deen) means garden

[manic juniper]

It comes from Sumerian 𒂔 (steppe or garden)

No

[rocky coyote]

why do i need to care about men who willingly let their psyche be sown a distorted sense of self-reward? if you want people to accept your emotional vulnerability wouldn't it be in your best interest to have your stigmatized ideas of especially social reality confronted instead of affirmed?

[manic juniper]

It's much better than it ever was in the past, it only lacks the same amount of protests as before

Yes

Now women who get abused in marriage have protection

[lofty hound]

okay, nice insight

[manic juniper]

TL; DR?

So it's a guy giving an opinion on a bunch of women's tastes

How does this relate to feminism

[rocky coyote]

this guy's only rehashing common opinion im so upset

why did i expect a productive conversation anyway

[manic juniper]

These videos are too USA-centric

Can't relate to them at all

UK? They colonised ¼ of the world

[high raven]

Most likely, those Semitic languages all share similarities with each other, in Aramaic we call it "Pardisa d'Edan", garden and paradise is the same word

[manic juniper]

USA's laws and policies aren't very influential, very few countries have full free speech as USA does

Just 4 or 5 in Europe

And a grand total of 0 elsewhere

[rocky coyote]

😭

[manic juniper]

Your country isn't really influential

Yes, we still aren't that influenced by them anyway except when it comes to Israel

But you mentioned your country, while I said that ours aren't that influenced. Then what's the point of even mentioning yours

Your country has this problem, I doubt Russia does, or Germany, or Egypt

[rocky coyote]

whats with the sudden change of topics about countries i thought you were talking about feminism

[manic juniper]

Those countries aren't necessarily relevant but they are large countries and they're not getting influenced by American laws

[manic juniper]

In his opinion this video about American trends (that doesn't seem about feminism) mirrors the situation in many countries

[rocky coyote]

tbhhhh the hatred towards modern feminism for swaying women to rebel against what men expect them to look like or behave is universal.

[manic juniper]

It seems a thing of social media, it varies a lot on a country by country basis. And they all have different laws and issues

I did, they complain about different things. Not these

There are people who complain about women in other countries "getting naked" because they are not judged for wearing shorts

They talk shit about women they don't even know

Yeah, those graphs look totally different

It's not at all how you described, they have different problems

Not enough feminism

[rocky coyote]

that better applies to differing expressions of misogyny. there are specific regional perspectives of patriarchal societies, like south asian casteist misogyny, islamic misogyny, european trad misogyny and so on. but the motivated lack of compliance among women nowadays to bow down to patriarchal expectations (i.e looking a certain kind good, serving their husbands, wanting to be bred etc) in general is not exclusive to nations

[manic juniper]

In South Korea women aren't really feminist and they are misandrist, this is caused by the bigotry and challenges posed by men at all levels. Instead of turning to feminism they turned to misandry, and men escalated further instead of improving their attitudes

[rocky coyote]

they can argue that the other country's patriarchy is too barbaric even though they're no different, but "feminism turns women undesierable for men" is a unanimously agreed principle

[manic juniper]

It's certainly not, there are even some assumptions people have about my country, as if it was an heaven of equality. It's pretty close and fair under some aspects, but others are neglected

[rocky coyote]

whats certainly not

do you care that they look fat due to genuine health concerns or are they just eyesores

[manic juniper]

Your last point, I mean I agree that it's not exclusive for sure

American women aren't feminist enough, Icelandic women are a role model

Sabotage your country's economy until it complies and grants you rights

[rocky coyote]

why do i need to care about that 😭 not every plus sized women are obese nor do they want to be crippled by unhealthy amounts of fat

[manic juniper]

It will sound bad to many men because they aren't feminists and they are opposed to it (as opposed to Icelandic men), women should fight harder then

I saw the entire video and I don't get what's feminist about research and statistics

Then these are all studies about sociology and it depends a lot on the sample size and the people selected

It's not, nowhere feminism says "don't have children because it's bad"

Logically it says to have children if you want them, ask your husband if he wants them too, have children if you both can afford them

Otherwise what's the point of giving them an horrible life

Depends on how many points they share in common with feminism, but I'd just bring them closer to men who are feminist so they cease being misandrist

No, he pretends that feminism teaches that, but it doesn't

According to him feminism is anything he doesn't like about women

Yes, the title itself states the theme, and he complains about many things. He seems a weird person

Hopefully he isn't like this in real life, I don't think many women would find him attractive

[uneven citrus]

feminism ain't the same everywhere , I've heard people saying something is considered feminism when here it's normal , like allowing them to speak

[rocky coyote]

you already erred when you assumed the choice to remain fat is some nonsensical rationale of healthiness instead of body positivity born from internalizing their conditions not as a "compromise", but as a trait to embrace and be liberal with. and even if the stats vindicate you, which it won't, you're the one who chose to be tipped off by others looking fat, or that you decided to bring up "fatness" as an questionable factor.

[manic juniper]

Even if he does, he seems too involved in other people's opinions

What kind of idea? I never said much about capitalism

I said I don't like billionaires, when capitalism was created there were no billionaires

The people who liked capitalism didn't like billionaires because they didn't exist

But you can be against billionaires and in favour of capitalism

You can tax them to the point of being millionaires

They would still live like kings, just not without an unending amount of money

[high raven]

I love paying taxes

[manic juniper]

But it's not a stance against capitalism...

[rocky coyote]

we need progressive taxes

i want my welfare state in my tedious social democracy NOW

[high raven]

I think most citizens here in Norway are perfectly fine with paying 33-35% in taxes, very few are for lowering the income tax

[manic juniper]

I talked to many American feminists and even from elsewhere, they didn't seem misandrist to me

Every time they explained the definition of feminism to someone else it was the same as my own

He didn't show the whole video of Vox, they seemed like random studies and interviews to women

Or if it's the entire video it doesn't seem like feminism, did they even say "feminism" at any time

Well this sounds suspicious already

If they didn't mention feminism and if I never heard about American feminism including those views, how can I be sure of it?

You are the first person who told me that

Hmmm no I don't think this is how it works

I didn't get the point of the video at all, he's just complaining about things he disagrees with

I don't know if Vox is right or wrong, I didn't check those studies personally

One thing that I know is there are studies where women are shown to be happier when they are unmarried

But it's not feminism if it has no direct links to it and there is no evidence of it being a feature

No but that's the men's fault

If those mothers are single and unhappy I guess it's not their fault

Isn't this because men abandon them most of the times

[turbid dome]

Ok there is some bias in the courts, my aunt abandoned my cousins and then got them anyways

Fun story

[manic juniper]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge_b_1617115

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Statistics are sexist, that's news to me

[high raven]

I knew it lol

[frozen cape]

what do you know

[high raven]

Isfrun how are you entertaining this?😭

[manic juniper]

What does that have to do with the article I shared

[rocky coyote]

isfrun can you add me

[manic juniper]

He made a mistake, I have very few articles saved in my notes

These are some of them

What about the other? Those are pure statistics

Are they sexist

[formal pilot]

The other day she told me that it's not worth arguing with him

[high raven]

It really isn't but to each their own

[supple crystal]

Huh? What am i supposed to do

[high raven]

What's your source for this

[manic juniper]

That these 27% men don't care, especially if they aren't in a stable relationship with a woman. Kinda selfish

[rocky coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/marcoelprro-gif-27525382

[manic juniper]

So they are choosing to not see their children just because of their mother, shows that they care very little

[high raven]

You're supposed to help her despite not knowing the context or any additional information

It's like when you receive a "Help" in the help-desk

[manic juniper]

Lol, so they choose their mother's authority over the court's despite the court being in their favour? That means they are also extremely stupid

[supple crystal]

I help answer questions about English, im not a mod or IT person.

Like vocab and grammar. I can't help with permissions

[rocky coyote]

jokes aside i don't want to posit data to stand my grounds when the people im arguing with will only interpret them at face value. you need to be open-minded to understand social and material factors behind lines going up and down and so far i haven't seen anyone willing to be.

[manic juniper]

Please someone help me, I'm about to collapse of laughter

[high raven]

But but but you're supposed to reduce people to numbers, you can't do this

[manic juniper]

This is the entire article. No sources, just this text. I'm not joking

I'm literally dying now

[rocky coyote]

haven't you heard? acknowledging the depths of experiences is woke

[manic juniper]

I saw it all

[high raven]

I was joking but bless you for doing that, nice of you to take your time of the day to do so

[frozen cape]

Contronyms, why?

[manic juniper]

Holy fucking shit

[turbid dome]

Yeah just got done reading lmaoooo

Excellent sourcing

[supple crystal]

Hm ya sure

[manic juniper]

It's also about Canada, some insignificant country according to his standards. We were talking about USA, the country from which all trends and influences depend

[rocky coyote]

no citations are already bad

[manic juniper]

Why would I care about Canada

[turbid dome]

Did you read the source before sending it?

[rocky coyote]

what are those bullet points though

[manic juniper]

Now I'm feeling like Minecraft, I understand how he feels

[turbid dome]

Or did you just see university and think “good”

[turbid dome]

Lmaooooo

[manic juniper]

I don't care about some piece of shit country that borders the greatest country in the world 🇺🇲 51st State of United States of America

This is what he would say

I guess it was worth it after all, it was supposed to be fun. I just had to wait for the punchline

[turbid dome]

Very cool that didn’t answer what I asked

[high raven]

You'd have a more productive conversation if you talked about custody cases in India instead of generalising them for every other country

I don't disagree that you do the US bidding no

[manic juniper]

USA is influential unlike Canada, crap country whose destiny lies with the United States of America 🇺🇲 as 51st state. Long live the war on the moose

[turbid dome]

Did you even read the conclusion? Or did you just ask AI for the first link

You’re right we’re splitting it up into provinces

[high raven]

I only know Canada from the trailer park boys

[turbid dome]

Do you think maybe there is context surrounding statistics?

Is this too advanced of a concept?

[high raven]

My education will be very relevant for this channel

[manic juniper]

This is what we do 🇺🇲🇨🇳🇸🇮🇬🇧🇫🇮 we conquer and annex whoever we want, the weak obey their masters

[turbid dome]

https://theonion.com/study-finds-79-of-statistics-now-sobering-1819576831/

[turbid dome]

Let’s check if you can do source analysis @grand prism, what do you think about this source

[high raven]

Unironically true

[turbid dome]

Yup

Correct yes

[high raven]

All their findings are peer reviewed

[turbid dome]

This is true

[high raven]

The "peers"

Not to be confused with pears, it's an apples and oranges kinda thing

[turbid dome]

I know statistically they aren’t but I still feel like they are out of personal experience, one of my most irrational takes

Previous ones sent by Isfrun

The one with the coldest and hardest of all statistics

I don’t think Isfrun sent that

[high raven]

I have no idea what you're talking about

The topic went from feminism to court cases and now statistics

I can only chip in on the last point

There's a simpler explanation

Then what is the point in providing the numbers

[hallow sable]

[high raven]

In custody cases they are, more often than not

Even in Scandinavian countries where men have a much larger role in family matters than in most other countries the custody courts still, more often than not, grant full custody to the mother

I'm not sure if she doesn't believe in or not so I can't comment on that

[manic juniper]

I'm not from a Scandinavian country

I have no idea about my country

It's not a topic that ever interested me

That says nothing about the causes unlike my article, it's useless information

Because they don't

At least not in USA

[high raven]

Shared custody is the priority in every court case, if it isn't viable then usually the mother is granted sole custody, unless it's a rare case where she displays zero ability to be able to care for the kids

[manic juniper]

I can fabricate whatever I wish behind those stats, I could say 79,3% of men abandon their children completely and so the court has to give them to the mother. Are you happy with this?

My study drew correlation and causation

[high raven]

They do, and for good reason

[manic juniper]

Shifting the goalpost

Billionaires lose one Euro every time he shifts the goalpost

True equality achieved in just one week

The Gini coefficient became useless

WHERE

What does alimony have to do with granting custody

[high raven]

Kukumber is it your stance that custody court cases should be unbiased and see a father's ability to nurture as viable as that of a mother's?

But you were talking about Andrew Tate earlier?

[turbid dome]

The point Isfrun is making, simplified to the most basic level:

you’re literally ignoring all the context and looking at totals

[high raven]

I don't think she is

[turbid dome]

Hypothetically, in a room of 5 men and 5 women, If 51% of calories are consumed by men, and 49% are consumed by women, is food distribution biased towards men?

Answer the question

I’m not asking this because it’s a perfect 1:1 I’m trying to demonstrate something calling context

What’s that

Correct

[high raven]

They do

[turbid dome]

So do you think that maybe despite my raw statistics showing something, that maybe there was additional context needed to determine the reality?

[high raven]

Where's this number from? I think I missed that part

[turbid dome]

If you know they’re correct you just mean that you’re admitting to post-hoc rationalization

[high raven]

Is it "7% of men want to take care of their child" or "7% of men are granted full custody of their children"?

Those are two separate things

[turbid dome]

No no conflate them more