🧠｜serious-chat

[wild sapphire]

Persona 4 reloaded?

[manic juniper]

I guess they did it to avoid useless conflicts, but there would've been a chance for survival

[wild sapphire]

I have never played this series

[manic juniper]

Not if Charlemagne had something to say about it

[wild sapphire]

One of my students advised me against it due to potentially inappropriate content lol

But i have heard high praise about the series

[manic juniper]

There is Jesus in Persona

[olive fractal]

they called it Revival

[olive fractal]

isn't the tall guy from Strega meant to look like Jesus

[wild sapphire]

Authenticity is incredibly important to me

I am so alone even with other Christians

[manic juniper]

Yes

There is Hitler too

[wild sapphire]

Like the western European depiction of Jesus

[manic juniper]

"This is potentially offensive!"
Japanese developers: Lol Jesus and Hitler

[olive fractal]

I unfortunately know that

[wild sapphire]

Inoffensive

[wild sapphire]

This is true

Their cultural norms are far removed from the dichotomy that America is used to

They do whatever they want and stand ready to offend anyone no matter your cultural sensitivities

And it isn’t malice, they just don’t care

[manic juniper]

As it should be

[wild sapphire]

However I do have one problem

It is the

[manic juniper]

They gave sunglasses to Hitler

[wild sapphire]

No lol

[fierce plover]

he was such a baddie

[wild sapphire]

I think they normalize too many things

[tender mason]

who wanna call with me

[wild sapphire]

I stay away from anime unless my sister recommends me one

[fierce plover]

keep distance from anime vro

[wild sapphire]

What does vro mean?

[manic juniper]

Isn't that pretty much everywhere

[wild sapphire]

I have seen it showing up more recently

[fierce plover]

it means bro

[olive fractal]

reckon it's just "bro" with the first letter swapped out

[wild sapphire]

Lol but with a v

How kool

[fierce plover]

yeap

[manic juniper]

European media normalises nudity on TV or elsewhere
American media normalises law enforcement intervention and guns

[fierce plover]

who can do a combodian asmr for me

[wild sapphire]

It’s not the process of normalization I am speaking of

[fierce plover]

i wanna fall asleep as fast as i can

[wild sapphire]

There are certain topics which are too heavy for me to articulate plainly

[fierce plover]

to heavy fr

[wild sapphire]

I think they have gone overboard and in excess of pursuit of sexual gratification

Anyway I am not won over because Jesus is in something

I love Ben Hur because you can never see Him and He rarely talks

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/aFHxsS6uv5g?si=TKrlT5jEpAKH9_gh

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cosign-cosigning-audie-fire-agreement-gif-21331382

[thorny steeple]

Welcome to Americana TV

[thorny steeple]

Isfrun's signature be like

[wild sapphire]

I dont even have a signature

I literally just scribble whatever

I could care less because i know they care less

Maybe i will start drawing goofy

[thorny steeple]

LOL

[manic juniper]

I can't deny that it looks aggressive

[thorny steeple]

LOL mine's looking like child trying to make signature lol

[wild sapphire]

I bet you have a nice signature

Well not sure actually

[thorny steeple]

It Finnish it's ready to end you in swedish it's going to me serious but not trying to end you

[wild sapphire]

If Isfrun saw the value in having a nice signature I bet it would be lovely

That is where my mind was unsure

I am not sure if Isfrun sees the value of having a nice signature

[olive fractal]

there is none

[manic juniper]

Why is that important

[wild sapphire]

The signature or your mindset

[manic juniper]

Yes

[wild sapphire]

Signature is meaningless as i can see

To the mindset part

[olive fractal]

elite trolling

[wild sapphire]

I view people as puzzles, and i put them together, some people have less pieces

You are like a 1000 piece puzzle in shades of white

Purely for my own curiosity

[manic juniper]

English isn't special, all languages change

[wild sapphire]

It’s true

[manic juniper]

In the last few years "yes" has a contextual meaning

[thorny steeple]

Same with finnish lol

[manic juniper]

It changed a lot since the 19th century

[wild sapphire]

Oh you meant you didn’t care to hear an answer? Sorry i don’t gather

[manic juniper]

No, yes means both

[wild sapphire]

Oh yes lol i understood

[manic juniper]

Meme ruined

[olive fractal]

hm should I play some more Skylanders or should I work on my discord bot

[thorny steeple]

Yeah imagine people still using archaic finnish

[manic juniper]

Me

[wild sapphire]

Sorry 😔

[thorny steeple]

Hey at least you're not in Antarctica lmao

[manic juniper]

Play Skylanders

[wild sapphire]

What is your discord bot supposed to do

[thorny steeple]

Wdym lol

[olive fractal]

ever heard of shapes.ai?

[wild sapphire]

No

Lol sorry

[thorny steeple]

Same

[manic juniper]

My family speaks a more archaic dialect called Kvääni, it's similar to 1600s Finnish

[olive fractal]

attaches a chat-oriented LLM to a discord bot

[manic juniper]

Western Finnish*

[thorny steeple]

So is Finnish non standardized?

[olive fractal]

but instead of relying on an API I want to use a local model

[wild sapphire]

You are creating a discord chat bot of some sort?

[thorny steeple]

What's the oldest dialect still in use?

[olive fractal]

yup

[manic juniper]

It's standardised but there are two dialects that are sometimes considered different languages, they don't follow the Agricola standardisation of Finnish besides orthography and even there it's not 1:1

[wild sapphire]

What will you name it and how will you use it?

[olive fractal]

UncleBot, I'm probably gonna use it on my friend's server

[wild sapphire]

Cute

[manic juniper]

The most conservative is Kvääni or any eastern varieties of Finnish, those aren't standardised but they're conservative and have unique features

[thorny steeple]

Interesting so finno uralic?

[manic juniper]

It's still Finnish, but more similar to how it was spoken before the dialects diverged too much

[olive fractal]

we used to have a shapes-powered bot we wanna replace

[wild sapphire]

I see

[manic juniper]

There always was a big divide between West and East

[wild sapphire]

It’s cool that you know how to do this

[thorny steeple]

Alright so there is no one singular true finnish language?

[olive fractal]

I'm a maintainer for D++ lol

the Discord C++ Library

[manic juniper]

There is Finnish, it's based off the southwestern variety of the language, so from around Finland proper

[thorny steeple]

Cold war of the dialects

[olive fractal]

but for the sake of portability I usually write my bots in Rust

[thorny steeple]

So how much can you understand Hungarian and Estonian?

[manic juniper]

Kvääni and Meankieli are considered by some to be separate languages but they are dialects to me

I support their status as separate languages because it leads to standardisation of their peculiarities and increased usage

[thorny steeple]

Basically understandable to some pedigree

[manic juniper]

I don't want it to homogenise with standard Finnish

[manic juniper]

I can't understand Hungarian at all, I can understand Estonian to a small degree

[thorny steeple]

Yeah removes variety?

[manic juniper]

Lack of variety is bad

[thorny steeple]

Yeah Magyarorzag lol

[thorny steeple]

Yeah look at English in the states vs England

[wild sapphire]

And what do you see

[manic juniper]

It's quite varied from town to town in England

[cosmic wolf]

So when we’ll continue to world war III?

I just curious about it

[olive fractal]

AUSTRALIAN ENGLISH 🦘 🛻 🇦🇺

[thorny steeple]

Yeah different dialects I like Irish and Scottish English dialects

[wild sapphire]

You know I think we are in world war 3, just our weapons have changed

[wild sapphire]

CROIKEY

[cosmic wolf]

Nah, i mean the real one

Not trade war

Or AI war

[wild sapphire]

With bombs and bullets

[cosmic wolf]

Etc

[wild sapphire]

God forbid

The world powers fight proxy wars

And the internet is a new battleground

They fight there

[olive fractal]

if I wouldn't be so bloody tired rn I could list a thousand reasons why something like that is next to impossible

[wild sapphire]

War has changed a lot and the weapons of warfare have evolved in sometimes unconventional ways

[manic juniper]

It's easy to wage war until Big Monkey joins as independent faction

[wild sapphire]

Then all is lost

[thorny steeple]

Jamaican English takes the Crown

[olive fractal]

WW3 will be Big Monkey vs Small Monkey

[wild sapphire]

It will roll over the opposition like so much chaff

[olive fractal]

BOMBACLAT

[manic juniper]

Small monkeys will lead a charge on Big Monkey, if they fail to bring him down they'll just boost his power

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[wild sapphire]

He will eat them and grow bigger

[cosmic wolf]

Whats a big reason is?

Let me know

[olive fractal]

because "AI" is just using pattern matching tech

[wild sapphire]

I think he has already attained sufficient girth as to be unstoppable now

It’s just a matter of waiting for the moment to strike

[olive fractal]

why is a pattern matching algorithm so powerful, you may ask yourself

the simple reason is, if you have TRILLIONS of inputs, even a simple pattern matching algo can be very very powerful

[wild sapphire]

But i think we are fortunate because his great size is also his greatest weakness

I think it is too hard for him to lift himself up to attack

Probably why we are all still alive

[olive fractal]

what if big monkey evolves to giga monkey?

[wild sapphire]

I think he will replace the earth in orbit

[olive fractal]

good point

[manic juniper]

It will eventually turn into Super Monkey, and potentially Evil Monkey

Alternatively it can redeem itself and turn into Super Monkey Ball

[thorny steeple]

Literally

[manic juniper]

All children love him dearly

[olive fractal]

I think it'd be more likely for Small Monkey to evolve into Evil Monkey

[thorny steeple]

Lmao yeah

[wild sapphire]

I hoped this is what you were referring to

And it was- we might yet be saved

[wild sapphire]

The good ending as you so eloquently put it

[manic juniper]

What do you mean

[wild sapphire]

Super Monkey Ball

[olive fractal]

man I love how easy dependency management in rust is

[manic juniper]

Super Monkey to Evil Monkey is a Dragon Ball reference

[wild sapphire]

Oh i only know super monkey ball lol

[cosmic wolf]

So is the AI going to live forever?

[wild sapphire]

I know that dragon ball is based on legend of

YUKONG WITH A W

And that everyone is named after vegetables

[olive fractal]

once we start training it on its own outputs it's over

[wild sapphire]

And that they scream a lot

[manic juniper]

Wukong

[wild sapphire]

That’s about it

[wild sapphire]

Variety is good

[wild sapphire]

There he is Wukong Dragonball himself

With his classic hair

Good stuff

[cosmic wolf]

I know, but when the war ended ?

[thorny steeple]

Wukong Dragonball that's new

[wild sapphire]

He is literally wukong at the beginning

He has a tail and the staff

I dont know where this adaptation went so far afield

[manic juniper]

The word is already taken

[wild sapphire]

Lack of variety is bad 😔

I fixed it

[manic juniper]

Chinese has an healthy lack of variety when it comes to words

[wild sapphire]

Beautiful language though

I like logographic languages

I mean as written language

I like the idea of art as words

I tried to learn mandarin

[feral river]

One of the hardest languages in the world

[hushed ore]

Yeah

[wild sapphire]

I am so glad to see you

[feral river]

Well im a Chinese and I can speak perfect mandarin that doesn’t surprise you I think

[wild sapphire]

I saw the ping and logged right back in

[feral river]

I can also speak English and Japanese lol

[wild sapphire]

That’s cool

[hushed ore]

So cool

[wild sapphire]

I wish to learn japanese too

Lol always later never now

[hushed ore]

But its not popular lang

[wild sapphire]

I sometimes consider moving abroad to be an english teacher

[feral river]

If you were a Chinese, learning Japanese was very easy because they use our Chinese characters and even the pronunciation was different but the meaning was almost the same

[hushed ore]

Aha gud idea

[wild sapphire]

Ah very fortunate

[feral river]

And almost every hard point in Japanese is Kanji, which is the Chinese character

Well that’s a natural advantage lol

[hushed ore]

Didnt know this !!

[feral river]

But you still have to remember their pronunciation of your Kanji

[wild sapphire]

I wonder if it can get confusing sometimes

[feral river]

That was like, remembering British words if you are American ?

[wild sapphire]

Ah

[feral river]

And their pronunication

[thorny steeple]

Lol maybe into very fame territory

[hushed ore]

Btw what is the different between kanji and katakana??

[wild sapphire]

Not too difficult: I imagine the American word without any freedom or democracy and then I remember the British version

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1l6bi1g/why_developing_countries_are_significantly_more/ what's with Finland

[wild sapphire]

So I look at the word truck and go

[feral river]

Well katakana and that kana only represent certain pronounce

[wild sapphire]

What would a truck be under a king

And boom, lorry

Easy strat

[feral river]

For example 私 is わたし in kana

Means me

And in Chinese it was pronounced si

Means private

[wild sapphire]

Interesting

[manic juniper]

Kanjis are logograms, they are composed by many elements and each one corresponds to a syllable, the kana systems (katakana and hiragana) are like the Latin alphabet, the one I'm using now

[feral river]

A little bit different but in Chinese it’s also 私

And it was a chinese character

[olive fractal]

what war?

[feral river]

But both used in Chinese language and Japanese language

[wild sapphire]

Xie xie

[hushed ore]

What is the most useful one?

[manic juniper]

Imagine if you were to divide the word "Chinese" into it's syllables, so Chi-Ne-Se, then you'd have to unite these letters into one symbol

[olive fractal]

btw it's not over for the human race, once we start properly training models on its own outputs, it's joever. The model reached a dead end.

[feral river]

So it was so damn fucking ez to learn japanese as a native chinese speaker

[gleaming hinge]

Hi guys

[manic juniper]

Both are used, but it depends on the context. I'd say the kanas are more useful, most things are written in them and they also represent neologisms

[wild sapphire]

Hello vincent

[manic juniper]

Newly and recently adopted words

[wicked glade]

japan is using traditional chinese characters for its vocabulary

But the grammar and accent are completely different

[gleaming hinge]

how you doing?

[wild sapphire]

I hope you are doing well Minecraft by God’s grace

[manic juniper]

The kanjis are more difficult to learn in general unless you are familiar with a related logogram script

[feral river]

lmao its true

[wild sapphire]

But you too lol

I am doing well ty

[wicked glade]

Makes sesne, the vocabulary is similar
It's like a Spanish or German person learning English. Much of the vocabulary is similar or the same.

[wild sapphire]

I need to go i think Lord willing

[manic juniper]

In real life it happened in a weird way, they were just simplified Chinese hieroglyphics

[gleaming hinge]

how?

[manic juniper]

The same thing happened to Egyptian and likely to Greek too, from Cretan

[turbid dome]

This reads as a grammatical error until you realize it’s addressed to someone named Minecraft

[wild sapphire]

I told minecraft i hoped he was doing well but my mind crossed wires

[manic juniper]

They were simplified, eventually they turned into single phonemes I guess

[wild sapphire]

And i wrote vincent instead lol

[feral river]

Unnecessary to learn that shit if im from America

[manic juniper]

Hangul is like something between logograms and an alphabet

[feral river]

America dominate everyone

[idle ferry]

but isn't confusing it's like the same characters with diff pronunciations and maybe slightly diff meanings

[feral river]

“I have to go first, I’m American”

[manic juniper]

Long live the world on terror, am I right

[turbid dome]

Chinese century of prosperity incoming

[wild sapphire]

It would be to America’s detriment to destroy everything beautiful

To any conqueror

[wicked glade]

Chinese is the opposite of indo-european languages
In English, for example, if you know the alphabet, you can pronounce "Human". But there's no indication as to what it means.
In Chinese/Japanese, 人 means human. You can instantly tell from the character. But there's nothing telling you how the character is pronounced.

[wild sapphire]

Why would you want to rule over a world of ash

[feral river]

For turning them not being an assh

[manic juniper]

Scripts you mean

[feral river]

Or wipe the fuck them off and fill with our asshs

[wild sapphire]

No

[wicked glade]

yes, scripts would be more accurate

[manic juniper]

If Cretan was Indo-European (unlikely but possible) it had a hieroglyphic phase

[wild sapphire]

Imagine taking over a museum and then just because you can, burning all the paintings

[manic juniper]

But the connection between Linear A and hieroglyphs is not direct and clear as in Egyptian hieroglyphs and Demotic

[wicked glade]

Linear A?

[wild sapphire]

What a waste of art

[feral river]

Well but honestly to say it’s quite fun to learn these stuff including many of the things I learned so far

[manic juniper]

Before linear A

[wild sapphire]

Yes

[wicked glade]

Is learning English difficult for you?

[wild sapphire]

Like burning down an old forest to replace it with a new one

[feral river]

I didn’t learn these in my school, my school was only my mental damaging factory

[turbid dome]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_during_the_Israeli_invasion_of_the_Gaza_Strip

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_hieroglyphs

[wicked glade]

I've learned a few Chinese character, but I have no idea how to do the accent correctly. It really feels like the opposite of English sometimes.

[wild sapphire]

LOL

I WANT THIS ON A STICKER

[feral river]

And I ever been to a lot of places, not including America but Japan, Korea, Singapore, Malaysia etc.

[wicked glade]

Oh that one. Yeah, it's a mystery, just like Linear A

[feral river]

Well I lived in Korea for half of a year

[wild sapphire]

I DIDNT LEARN THIS AT SCHOOL, SCHOOL WAS ONLY MY MENTAL DAMAGING FACTORY

I love it so good

[wild sapphire]

I want to visit

[feral river]

But im not being bullied in the school, im the bully

[wild sapphire]

Bro no

[turbid dome]

The people’s Korea?

[feral river]

And that doesn’t make me feel very free and nice

Still a lot of limitations

Well bully people was fun tbh

[wicked glade]

you reminded me of Blue Spring/青い春 movie.

[wild sapphire]

See you are a kind hearted dictator

One of the best

[feral river]

But you have to pay for it

Somehow

[wild sapphire]

Always

I would vote for you

[manic juniper]

Vote? Where do you think you are

[turbid dome]

Tito moment

[rich thorn]

kind hearted dictator

[manic juniper]

He is the unelected supreme leader

[wild sapphire]

You’re right

IM SORRY SUPREME LEADER

[manic juniper]

Thinking he can be voted in is insulting, you will be re-educated for this

[wild sapphire]

FORGIVE ME THIS SLIP

[manic juniper]

To the saunaklonkku facility

[olive fractal]

Microsoft's Phi4 is quite interesting, seems to provide decent model performance while not being attrociously big

9.1gigs is very okay

[feral river]

STRAIGHT TO REEDUCATION CAMPS 🇨🇳

[olive fractal]

llama3.3 can kiss my arse, fucking 67 gigs

[manic juniper]

We'll teach him the real synonym of toilet paper

[feral river]

⚖️ 🚫 🔫 🟰 🧻

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-evil-laugh-crash-bandicoot-nitros-nitrous-oxide-gif-15538116

[feral river]

Not so hard i learned these when im playing games with american street asshs

[wicked glade]

"when I was playing games with X" is correct

Your English is good though

[feral river]

I never know if it was correct or not I only know how to say it

Recently im learning japanese maybe im going to japan very soon

Can’t really be a sergeant in PLA at least no news further

[manic juniper]

@olive fractal do you have any idea about the PS1 red screen? I looked it up and there isn't an answer anywhere

[olive fractal]

unfortunately not, sorry

[wicked glade]

What do you mean? Do you have to serve in the Chinese army?

[manic juniper]

Some said it's to inform the developers that the RAM was entirely used and a crash occurred

[turbid dome]

Oh cool our pools chemicals stabilized so now I can actually swim, see you guys in 22 years

[olive fractal]

interesting

[random crescent]

How detrimental would it be if someone were to suddenly have perfectly aligned atoms and explode

[olive fractal]

ugh ofc Phi4 only performs well under certain tests ._.

og llama time it is

screw you Microsoft

[coral belfry]

the cat is back <;

[random crescent]

Metal gear rising revengeance predicted a lot of things.. really

Its close enough

[prisma cipher]

It not close, they just make robot that looks like animal

[random crescent]

I mean.. they did attach a chainsaw to it a while back

"For research purposes"

[prisma cipher]

And I doubt we soon see robots like that in real war battle

[random crescent]

They're very expensive and prone to failures in tough terrains

they'll stick to drones surely

[prisma cipher]

If it will be robots on the ground it would be more like ATVs with a machine gun on the turret

Because it's easily working and easily fixing if something is broken

And it can move fast and go almost everywhere

[olive fractal]

we could go full-on mad max and build cool battle-utes

[random crescent]

I like that idea

[prisma cipher]

Robots like dog might be used in battle like inside building battle. But it so specific cases

[olive fractal]

if they aren't powered by 8v71s or BOSS-351s I don't want them

[random crescent]

Would help in close quarters combat

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-bike-looping-tree-forest-off-road-gif-5349213

the most maneuverable thing is a crossover motorcycle it can even drive on steps. the problem is if it falls over who will lift it up, if you make a robot based on this motorcycle, it will be a killer for everything, you just can't hide from it. it can drive into any house and maneuver in a very tight space.

Imagine remove human and put mashinegun there.

That robot dog will loose this monster

But robot dog looks more futuristic tho

[random crescent]

Well if you can attach a gyroscope or anything to balance it out like those terminator bikes from the earlier terminator movies then it'd be great

[random crescent]

Would be badass

[wild sapphire]

I love captain qwark lol such a goofball

Lol i love it

I have emerged from the saunaklonkku reeducation facility, scarred but a wiser man

I don’t even remember for what it was that I was sent there for, the notion is an alien one to me

In this channel, there is the supreme leader Minecraft and that is good enough for me. There was no other possible candidate and never will be

[wild berry]

Wadup serious people

[wild sapphire]

How are you sir?

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-mando-mandalorian-boba-fett-gif-24652553

[wild sapphire]

A million users cried out in terror

[thorny steeple]

Why

[wild sapphire]

Star wars reference

[thorny steeple]

Hmmm... got it

[wild sapphire]

Do you have an infographic to post about how Mr. Bean has spoken out against some pressing political issue of our time

I think rowan atkinson actually did do a speech about freedom of speech, good fella

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-24443028

[turbid dome]

Nooooo my Swedish queen is under attack

[hushed ore]

?def busy

[cursive bobcat]

Word: busy

Definition 1 (adjective): (of facilities such as telephones or lavatories) unavailable for use by anyone else or indicating unavailability; (`engaged' is a British term for a busy telephone line)
Definition 2 (adjective): intrusive in a meddling or offensive manner
Definition 3 (verb): keep busy with

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by akilaaaaaaa_20770

[thorny steeple]

heyyo

[half glacier]

Guys do you know how to use Milanote professionally?

[thorny steeple]

@slow spade @thorny steeple Right, I'm removing your timeout make sure to continue your conversation here. Don't let that happen again.

@slow spade "we are in pieces here and there"
So according to u Arabs Kurds Armenian Assyrians Greeks should've remained with turkey after all discrimination and genocides they faced?

And also it was u who was laughing at Arab freedom calling it hillarious then u urself are saying that all are same no one is superior to none

It seems as if you're forgetting that most nationalism pan Turkic Turkish supermscy ideas come from Turks.

[manic juniper]

Jeez

https://tenor.com/view/nitrous-oxide-noxide-crash-ctr-toxic-developer-gif-65247515205328979

[slow spade]

the main reason the rallies occured in ww2 were the outside countries triggering and giving hope to these nations. per say armenians were promised to have their land by France. arabs were promised by england. if you were to read a little bit of ottoman culture you would know the gist of the leniency and permissiveness between the multi-nations that were living together for over 600 ruling of ottomans.
as for specifically armenian genocide i recommend you to read the details of how, under what conditions of the country as well as the public, why it occurred. by definition it is considered as a genocide but if ottoman were to commit one they would have done that directly instead of exile. also prior to this decision armenians were burning mosque-full of people alive, harrassing women infront of their men, killing children and women and men in many ways and we have photos of all these in our documents. and the reason why armenians died were due to John turk groups -they were punished, they were apparently so upset because of what armenians did to us when we were calling armenians as "millet i sidiqa" which means the friend nation to us turks.
i said it is hilarious for an arab to attack muslim turks through generalizing that "turks are a punishment when we ignore islam". because i believe before attacking anyone, one should look at themselves. i didnt glorify my nation i only pointed out that we are not one and his situation seemed hilarious

we are not one ummah*

[thorny steeple]

Did someone read this

[true lark]

I did but the English is too messed up and I've not got any context, so I really still have no idea what they're talking about

Something about genocide and Armenians

[thorny steeple]

💀

[sharp creek]

[wild sapphire]

This gif is just chef’s kiss

I keep laughing at it

[sharp creek]

sir would mind to tell me how fast your internet is , and how much does it cost

[turbid dome]

Potatoes are cool

[feral river]

Losers only need to accept orders from the superpowers, they decide your destiny by their pen and ruler

You are not the winner of the WW2, you also have no power after WW2

[radiant quarry]

👋

Hi, I’m Emi

How you doing guys?

[shy summit]

Blud you have no room to be talkin’ shit on those claims.

[sharp creek]

news say that america is close to a civil war

the immigrants are shivering

i watched a video that said immigrants are not willing to leave their homes and always carry their ID cards

i think thats great but he is overdoing it, just spread the fake news, telling people that villain or other bad people will be kick out
and not do anything actually, i hope someone capable will rise to lead my city and drive out those ignorant fools

there always unkind people who receive benefits and help but curse and act bad to people who have helped them

[tulip zenith]

there's nothing to do against a nation that invests twice as much capital as the country they come from

[thorny steeple]

Oh and since u highlighted do much

What about Ajmer 1992 scandal where ur Muslim brothers kidnapped Hindu girls r*ped forcefully converted them that too in a dargag?

And what about indore scandal where same ur Muslim brothers drugged r*ped blackmailed Hindu girls into converting?

Mister if u can give a biased narrative don't expect a truthful unbiased one to be given to you first of all

2nd, focus on sins of your community rather than crying victim card and hatred wherever u go like idiots

[vivid canyon]

This type of incident regularly happens in Bangladesh by a group of people. No law and regulations.

[thorny steeple]

Dude this dude randomly came and wrote biased hateful paragraphs about muslim India victimization I mentioned few incidents done by Muslims where they commited and he asked me to condemn equally but he himself was biased

Then he write 3-5 paragraph of incidents Muslim victimization out of which half was propaganda

And he wrote 2 lines for islamist extremism and then paragraph to whitewash crimes of Islamists

[thorny steeple]

And yesterday this islamist apologist came and was crying that state is silent in India or people don't speak about it lol

After I mentioned dhruv rather Rahul Gandhi with millions millions of supporters

I asked him tell me one Muslim Bangladeshi with millions of supporters who called out islamist extremism?

He left server

[humble cargo]

islamists are bigots

[thorny steeple]

This one sided narrative due to these islamist apologists propaganda results in more right wing activities

God give some brain to these south Asian jihadists

[humble cargo]

jihad will never stop. their Allah commanded them to do it against every human being.

[thorny steeple]

They are literally the worst selfish hypocrites they give biased narrative propaganda but complain when u only mention ur community problem they expect balanced narrative secularism from us non muslims while giving biased agenda themselves

[thorny steeple]

No Islam is great it's these jihadists that are ruining name of Islam for common people

[humble cargo]

Yea

[vivid canyon]

https://youtu.be/pPzIRijp9Jo?si=WipGPYpuDcsCt9JT

[humble cargo]

i don't think so. their scriptures ask the followers to k-ll idolaters

[thorny steeple]

Still like most are okayish or well tbh

[vivid canyon]

Everyone should watch this. It's a global problem nowadays Islamic terrorists.

[thorny steeple]

Don't worry
It's mainly Pakistani Indian Bangladeshi and Turkish Iraqi Syria jihadists that ruin name of Islam

[humble cargo]

Arabs are mostly fine

[thorny steeple]

Please don't insult Islam it's a great religion if u insult it, it will alienate the good muslim who hate these jihadists too

[thorny steeple]

True Arabs not Iraqi Syrian

[humble cargo]

I am not insulting name of islam. i just stated what is

[thorny steeple]

Where u from

[humble cargo]

I don't want to reveal

I don't like revealing my location especially because I see a lot of people hating my country for no good reason

and also I don't like to take shit from others

also racism

[thorny steeple]

As a Bengali we had sympathizing for them thought of them as brothers but they're proving they're east Pakistanis

[thorny steeple]

Yea true

[vivid canyon]

I think the problem is very deep, that we don't realize or see, but don't openly talk about that.

I saw a video, one man said "If you follow islam strictly, you will not become a human" because their main religion books serve a lot of hate rate to people of other religions. And also says there are a lot of good Muslim people there, but if you see them, they don't follow islam strictly, maybe he is a doctor or engineer, he has no time to learn islam or follow it, so that they have humanity and think differently and love people no matter, he is Muslim or non-muslim.

The main problem is the base, what they taught as childhood. What information they give to the a child 🧠 brain.

[feral river]

don't really have very much opinion on these loser and false claims

reality was the hammer that strike straight to their head

and awake them from dreaming their utopia

we, are the superpowers that dominate the world

[thorny steeple]

I'm serious

[vivid canyon]

I don't think it is a good religion. see those county people who think they are pro Muslim like PAK, BD, Iran, Iraq, syria. Most of the violence they create and not peace in there. Moreover, they also believe that Arabs are distorting their religion, which means they don't follow islam strictly, so that they have peace and prosperity.

See statistics, which religious people are leaving their religion mostly? That also islam. Why? Something is actually wrong with this religion.
I analyze it scientifically not judge as non Muslim. I have a lot of Muslim friends i love them so much and they also love me so much, there is no religious matter, and the main point is that they do not follow islam strictly, most of them are engineers.

[eager geyser]

whats so serious

[feral river]

I would not like to talk about how people behave because their social contract and that you know it represent nothing

a religion that people who believe it behave good or not, represent nothing

but if you look into islam itself, you could know it's a backward ideology with baseless evidence that cultivating new cult in modern society

[sour phoenix]

I agree with most of your arguments but you continue to speak about hypocrisy. That is a fallacy called ‘appeal to hypocrisy’. So, that argument is invalid.

[thorny steeple]

What can u elaborate a lil please

[sour phoenix]

Yes

[sour phoenix]

An "appeal to hypocrisy," also known as the "tu quoque fallacy," is a type of logical fallacy where an argument is countered by pointing out the opponent's hypocrisy or inconsistencies in their own actions or beliefs. This fallacy works by diverting the focus from the original argument to the opponent's perceived moral failings, rather than addressing the actual validity of the claim.
Here's a breakdown of the appeal to hypocrisy:
What it is:
It's an attempt to discredit an argument by highlighting the speaker's hypocrisy, as if their inconsistency invalidates their point.
How it works:
Instead of addressing the argument itself, the focus is shifted to the person making the argument and their alleged inconsistencies.
Examples:
"You can't tell me not to smoke; you smoke too!"
"I'm not going to vote for you because you're a hypocrite."
Why it's a fallacy:
Whether the speaker is being hypocritical or not is irrelevant to the truth or falsity of their argument. The argument itself remains valid, regardless of the speaker's personal flaws.
Also known as:
Tu quoque, "you too," or "look who's talking".
In essence:
It's an ad hominem argument that attacks the person's character rather than their argument.

I got the definition from google

[thorny steeple]

Dude thing is I literally countered all of his points some were true some propaganda I admitted truth as truth

But I was calling out his bias and hypocrisy when he wrote 5-6 paragraph about muslim suffering from extremism which I condemned but when I talked about 2-3 incidents of hinfu victim of islamist extremism he called me biased and asked me to condemn equally-

Then he wrote 6-7 more paragraphs about muslim victims this that and 2 lines for Hindu victims then began white washing islamist extremism

Then I wrote several incidents of islamist extremism and countered his lies and propaganda statements too

That was my issue he said one sided truth I accepted it but when I said one sided truth why was I called biased?why did he want me to condemn talk equally when all he did was being biased

[frail tapir]

Bro Islam is peaceful there are some people wrongs interpreting it and choosing extremism

[thorny steeple]

Dude see my above messages I'm literally defending Islam
I'm just against all extremism and biased agendas
I'm pro secularism and balanced truthful narrative

[thorny steeple]

@sour phoenix

[thorny steeple]

@frail tapir

[sour phoenix]

is this a debate betwen you and the hindu condemner

?

[lofty hound]

yeah, its always about religion

[sour phoenix]

so is it a yes

?

[lofty hound]

ya

[sour phoenix]

calling you biased was not a valid argument as this is a DEBATE. The sides have to be biased for a debate.

[thorny steeple]

No it's a debate between a guy with a biased narrative asking for equal narrative while continuing to give biased ones

[thorny steeple]

Exactly that's my point I was calling out his hypocrisy of him giving a biased agenda narrative I condemned what wrong as wrong but when I mentioned my side of story why was I called biased? Why was I asked to give a balanced narrative condemning but not him

[sour phoenix]

asking for a equal narrative destroys the point of a debate

[thorny steeple]

And it wasn't a debate tbh the dude left the server the moment I countered some of his false propaganda

[sour phoenix]

he left?

[thorny steeple]

There's a difference u debate with two ideologies

What he was doing was a hypocritic argument like an idiot

U can't write 5-8 paragraph of biased narrative but cry for equal narrative condemning from others

[sour phoenix]

exactly

[sour phoenix]

but you cannot call his arguments false without proof

[thorny steeple]

Also to point out I have nothing but utmost respect for all religions Islam Christianity Hinduism
I'm against all forms of extremism and biased narratives and hypocrisy just.

[sour phoenix]

good

[thorny steeple]

I did I accepted the true incidents facts he said but I countered his false accusations arguments where he generalised every person due to few incidents and lied that no one calls out extremists
While there are people with millions of followers dhruv rathee Rahul Gandhi the leader of 40% of parliament who openly condemn and call out hindutva extremism and several stuff like that
Whereas no one from his country with millions of followers do that

Where he was honest I accepted where he was false that I countered
Most annoying thing was him expecting a balanced narrative condemning from me while himself writing so many huge paragraphs one sidedly

[sour phoenix]

The Holy Quran says: "Do not abuse those whom they worship besides Allah" (6:109).

@thorny steeple

@tepid marsh
@thorny steeple

حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ دَاوُدَ الْمَهْرِيّ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو صَخْرٍ الْمَدِينِيُّ، أَنَّ صَفْوَانَ بْنَ سُلَيْمٍ، أَخبرَهُ عَنْ عِدَّةٍ، مِنْ أَبْنَاءِ أَصْحَابِ رَسولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، عَنْ آبَائِهِمْ دِنْيَةً عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: «أَلَا مَنْ ظَلَمَ مُعَاهِدًا، أَوِ انْتَقَصَهُ، أَوْ كَلَّفَهُ فَوْق طَاقَتِهِ، أَوْ أَخَذَ مِنْهُ شَيْئًا بِغَيْرِ طِيبِ نَفْسٍ، فَأَنَا حَجِيجُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ»

“Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, curtails their rights, burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will, then I will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.”[1] (Abu Dawud, volume 3, page 3, Darul Minhaj)

The people who committed the crimes against other religions were not extremists. They were ignorant. Islam never told them to attack followers of other religions.

[thorny steeple]

Ik that
I'm an educated person and learning more and more

Ignorant and extremists need to hear this

[thorny steeple]

Btw I have utmost respect for Islam certainly

But would u be comfortable in talking about a topic it's a social topic and with religious and social values influencing it?

I'm asking this as you seem to be a respectful educated person not one sided narrative hypocrite

[sour phoenix]

yes and thank you

[thorny steeple]

So what's ur view on slavery like do u as a person in 21st century think trans Saharan and ig south Asians slavery in Arab lands was good or not?
And that do u think it's good that slavery got abolished completely or do u believe it should have been continued?

[sour phoenix]

i think slavery should be abolished.

[thorny steeple]

Like I've seen articles and videos by Muslim historian Al muqademah he himself mentioned several times in video it was barbaric cruel and ig in that video he said that a French scholar who travelled those lands said although slaves were given better treatment lawfully they had no legal rights and most didn't follow

[thorny steeple]

I see
What's ur opinion on slave raids btw?
Were slave raids permissible Islamically or not?

[manic juniper]

Didn't they enslave innocent civilians in Iceland

They sailed all the way from Algeria to Iceland just to enslave them

[thorny steeple]

England ik
Not sure about Iceland

[thorny steeple]

The slavery of Europe was just 400 years barbaric Definetly but it was condemned ended by Europeans themselves

Meanwhile slavery in Muslim world was of 1400 years slave raids by Berbers Turks in European towns villages and this was ended by west not the Muslim world.

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Abductions

It says Turkish because at the times all Muslims were wrongly labelled Turks by Europeans

But they were from Algeria or nearby

[thorny steeple]

In slavery case we must give point to the Western they ended it themselves the Muslim world didn't and doesn't condemn it on same scale either.

[thorny steeple]

Berber slave raids

They invaded attacked European towns

They had fetish for white slaves

[manic juniper]

Slavery in Europe was much older than that, slavery existed everywhere since ancient times

[thorny steeple]

I'm talking about the African slavery

Trans Atlantic slavery was 400 years done ended by Europe itself

[manic juniper]

That too was much older but it wasn't particularly focused on enslaving Africans in particular

[thorny steeple]

It was but I'm talking about European enslaving Africans and Arabs enslaving them
Trans Atlantic
And trans saharan

[sour phoenix]

some sources suggest that slavery is condemned by modern islamic scholers

[manic juniper]

The Transatlantic Slave Trade overtook all other sources of slavery because of how convenient it was, the large amounts of slaves traded and the cooperation of local African kingdoms

[thorny steeple]

Yes the Muslim Africans rulers sold their own black muslims as slaves or the non muslim Black's

[manic juniper]

Anyone who lost at war

[thorny steeple]

I'm asking u personally according to Islam firstly
Do you as a Muslim and educated person who knows true social reality condemn slavery or no?
Do u believe it was inhumane and wrong

[thorny steeple]

Not really they had slave raids in territories too

Not just enslaving the ones who lost wars

But attacking invading Slavic European African non muslim regions

And Muslim ones too later on in Africa

[thorny steeple]

@sour phoenix

Kinda edited btw

Re-read it

[sour phoenix]

i said i think slavery is bad

i do not support it

[thorny steeple]

Is it permissible to end it Islamically tho
Like the Moroccan king if u remember said that he can't make anything that the Quran permits unlawful
When Britian asked him to stop slavery in 1800s.

[thorny steeple]

I'm glad to hear your honest views^^

[coral belfry]

Since when have you enslaved people, when their mothers gave birth to them free?! - Omar bin al-khattab a Caliph and one of The Companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

[thorny steeple]

As good as the words are kindly see we are talking in practical actions here.

[thorny steeple]

Practically not many Muslim rulers followed this.

[coral belfry]

yep i know that but
its clear that we condemn slavery!
but in practice , slavery hasn't been abolished

in his time

[sleek epoch]

Modern day Muslims rulers are all kafirs they have no iman and worship money

[thorny steeple]

Not just invading non muslim empire but even invading their own fellow Muslim empires for wealth loot and slaves
Example invasions done by Nader Shah and Timur lane on Delhi sultanate and mughal empire both main objective was to loot Delhi the wealthiest city in the region
But their excuse was "Delhi sultanate too lenient on their non muslim subjects" or Nader Shah I dunno , uneducated Islamist extremists believe that timurids are representative of great warriors of Islam

Like bro as a non muslim I feel offended if u consider those monsters are representative of Islam

[uncut tiger]

Isn't that hypocrisy

[coral belfry]

yes

[thorny steeple]

Modern?
Please read history timurids Nader Shah 20th century ottoman all these who invaded fought for wealth power like the non muslims genocided several ethnic innocent communities
U consider them muslim?

[uncut tiger]

A sinner is judging other sinners for sinning differently

[thorny steeple]

Ur a really good person if u condemn slavery ngl

I've met some extremist islamist that keep justifying slavery saying in Quran it gave rights this that but when I said practically how much of Quran did they follow or give right they left and blocked me 💀

One guy said "would u rather have slavery raids or be bombed"

[thorny steeple]

@coral belfry

[thorny steeple]

It's better than staying completely silent or whitewashing/ignoring sins of own ummah like most apologists do yk

Every truth should be accepted

[uncut tiger]

What would happen after you accept those truths?

Does it matter

[thorny steeple]

@sleek epoch
Not just modern day for ur kind information but after Rashiuddin Calliphate pretty much all of following so called Calliphate did that

You do realize ottomans shook hands with the French ?

[uncut tiger]

Fk history tomorrow is a mystery today is a present

[thorny steeple]

Mind opens up

Otherwise lotta people brainwashed think their community anyone who's "Muslim/Hindu/Christian" is completely innocent and rest of all are bad 💀

That stupidity should be stopped

[sleek epoch]

I never said ottomans were great they only cared about luxury

[uncut tiger]

If you don't hate other cults then how will you love your own?

[sleek epoch]

Doesn't make any sense

[thorny steeple]

Ottoman timurid generally everyone after Rashiuddin Calliphate was like that tbh

@sour phoenix also sorry to disturb u again but I had one question

Islamically are slave raids and invasions on non muslim territory permissible?
If they're let's say not bothering u just existing in own land peacefully?

[sleek epoch]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Which country are u from ?

[sleek epoch]

I've never read anything like that there's is a concept of jihad and conditions when the jihad is farz it does states that if u have a tyrant ruler or if people from outside invade u and there was a third condition cannot remember but it doesn't state that u should slave raid other territories that have nothing to do with u

[manic juniper]

His question was about it being allowed or not, not if it's promoted or not

[sleek epoch]

I don't think so I'll do some research about it

[feral river]

There’s a concept of bullshit I think you never heard about it in Quran but you would know how bullshit it was based on reality

[rigid karma]

Hello everyone.
I'm looking for someone who is based on philipines.
I need your help regarding my business.
I can pay to you.
If you're interested, Please DM me.

[thorny steeple]

I'm a non muslim so I might be wrong but I'm learning Islam have utmost respect for it and all religions.

But as humans we don't know whose a Muslim and whose not what goes on in hearts only God knows
So to glorify idolize people just cuz they say they were Muslim in name seems stupid

Even more if u see practically invasions looting slave raids massacres done by Turks timurids Iranian Shah were all just to loot cities like Delhi Isfahan for wealth and get slaves
Especially cuz these places in those times weren't even a threat to Muslim rule and themselves had Muslim rulers of Delhi sultanate ottoman mughsls etc

[thorny steeple]

@sleek epoch I'm learning but I think as a Muslim you can only truly idolize prophet pbuh and his companions who he seemed worthy such as imam Ali hazrat Umar and lady fatima etc.

[manic juniper]

???

[thorny steeple]

What the heck that's not me dude tf

Tag that msg

That's definitely not me 💀

[thorny steeple]

Tag me to that msg please

[manic juniper]

You just deleted it

This is really dishonest

[coral belfry]

any moderate and educated muslim would condemn the "immoral" actions that some (a lot) of islamic empires did

[feral river]

we do not oppress muslims, we oppress terrorists and its supporters

[thorny steeple]

Ayo bro ur framing now tf this is wrong dude

[manic juniper]

Should we ask a mod about this?

[thorny steeple]

I didn't do this and ur framing some person who u don't know

[manic juniper]

They can see deleted and edited messages

[thorny steeple]

Of course

Go ahead

[manic juniper]

I've seen you do this yesterday, it's not something I looked up now

[feral river]

nobody gives a fuck

[coral belfry]

great

[feral river]

they lose their empire, their empire is now history

they are fucking losers nothing more

[thorny steeple]

@ancient jetty get a life instead of prying in other people's conversation

[manic juniper]

Why me? You accused me of lying, if I'm breaking a rule you should summon them on me. Did I?

Did I break a rule or was that the truth?

[ancient jetty]

I was just faffing around

[feral river]

moral doesn't make you powerful and does not grant you strength, guns do

[formal pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1211329848874762281.gif

[thorny steeple]

Ur accusing me of Lying yk ur accusing me of saying stuff I didn't then accusing me of deleting my messages so go ask a mod to see if I'm lying or not

[feral river]

you have a great moral so what ? can you face AK-47 or M-16 ?

or you can face F-22 F-35 or some tanks with other stuff ?

[coral belfry]

but lts just say that every empire has its life cycle

[feral river]

even a single drone that drop bomb would easily end everything

[manic juniper]

Is this a projection? You just said I framed you and made up that screenshot, you quickly edited or deleted it. This is dishonest AND you accused me first, it's your duty to prove you're not guilty

[sleek epoch]

How about facing God after death

[manic juniper]

As far as I know I showed a screenshot with proof while you didn't bring forth anything

[feral river]

that doesn't fucking exist dude

prove it if you think you can

and how the fuck dare you to say your explaination was the only true one ?

[manic juniper]

Based Tina, she's fueling the flames

[thorny steeple]

Moderate and educated and tbh brave kinda also

Most ones I meet are just whitewashing or justifying those sins saying non muslim did it too-

My question is didn't prophet say not to imitate non believers here ur justifying sind with them 😭
And if u wanna continue let's continue u in dms this chats been raided by idiots

[feral river]

that's fucking total nonsense like I'm saying if you satisfied me and you will be nice in afterlife

and some stupid guys really believe it

[manic juniper]

Mammals deserve oppression, it's all that they know

[feral river]

LMFAO

[sleek epoch]

There's no point in explaining to the ignorants who love to stay ignorant

[feral river]

There's no point in explaining to the losers who want to be a loser

remember, I got the shit to be ignorant

[thorny steeple]

Are u really Chinese?
From which region tho?
Like the ones on east Asian region or near Central Asia

[feral river]

but you don't

[feral river]

I ever been to Xinjiang and everything's fine

[manic juniper]

@shy summit could we check if this message was deleted or edited? The author claims it's not his and seems to be gone already

[thorny steeple]

No no idc I'm just asking are u Han Chinese or hui

Generally ones near Eastern are han

[feral river]

I'm a Han Chinese and I have Hui friends

[ancient jetty]

Will anyone end up to these religious talks now? I mean what's the point of discussing it? What will y'all gain by fighting with each other it's not like any of u are going to win a medal for it..

[thorny steeple]

Oh I see
Are they muslim?

[livid blade]

here you go: #🧠｜serious-chat message

[thorny steeple]

@sleek epoch could I DM u if it's alright?

[feral river]

by ethnicity they are but most of them are not

[manic juniper]

Damn it's still there, F

[feral river]

nobody would like to embrace a backward outdated ideology in 21th century

[sleek epoch]

Chinese people can't use discord they have to use a vpn they mostly use we chat

[feral river]

that's why I'm here, I'm using VPN and it's fucking cheap almost accessible for everyone

[manic juniper]

He's the same person too

[sleek epoch]

Liar

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper @shy summit
Dude I was talking to a guy I copied his msg from general chat y'all

[livid blade]

The original message is still there
The user who posted that message and you have the same discord user ID: 1376900877499236372
It is your own message 💯

[thorny steeple]

@livid blade

😭

[manic juniper]

Good job Utena, you definitely earned that golden keyboard

[thorny steeple]

Sorry yea I remember it is mine it was originally some biased idiots I only copied and forwarded it here to the serious chat

Sorry for misunderstanding y'all

[livid blade]

ok, fair enough
Your story checks out
Here is the original message from the gen chat user : #💭｜general message

[thorny steeple]

Yes thank you!!
😭

[formal pilot]

This message is 1 minute older than aziel's message
#💭｜general message

[manic juniper]

Yes

[formal pilot]

Why y'all cooking him

[manic juniper]

Fair, I apologise for the assumption but why didn't he recall that he copied someone else's message, it's confusing

[manic juniper]

Because he should've clarified it and he didn't at first

[sleek epoch]

Absolute cinema

[formal pilot]

"you just deleted it"
"This is really dishonest"

[manic juniper]

Join serious chat

[manic juniper]

Yes, I looked it up word for word and the text wasn't there, I thought he deleted it

How tf is this possible

Utena only found it because she has the magical golden keyboard

[ancient jetty]

Sorry to interrupt but I just want someone to motivate me my boyfriend emotionally betrayed me several times he took me for granted he always Lusted over sluts online he lied to me again and again he had been doing everything that amounts to emotional infidelity..He always used to lie to me I’ve finally blocked him now just want someone to give me a little motivation to move forward in life I’m not here for a long conversation just a small push without asking me questions

[manic juniper]

That's rough but it's his loss, if he can't stick to one person then he won't stick to anyone ever again unless he changes. Stay strong qween 👑💅🏻

[thorny steeple]

I forgot dude 😭

[manic juniper]

It's fine, that girl exposed both of us

[formal pilot]

You're getting old, there's nothing we can do

[thorny steeple]

Lmao fr

[sleek epoch]

Never trust men again and learn crochet

[manic juniper]

It's this phone ngl it's five years old now and it's almost 6 at this point

[thorny steeple]

Is politics allowed here?

to talk about it

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Is there a separate channel for this?

[manic juniper]

I think so but people discuss it here as well

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1222540798201954404

This is for keyboard warriors

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[manic juniper]

Damn he already hopped in

[feral river]

I feel somebody is trying to wake me up

[formal pilot]

Stop spending money on random shi and get a new phone

[thorny steeple]

I dont speak good english haha

[manic juniper]

Bruh I never spend them, I just send them to my family

I should be greedier

[feral river]

are you using iPhone

[manic juniper]

It's a Chinese phone, Redmi Note 8 Pro or something

[feral river]

oh that's a shit

[manic juniper]

I can't use iPhones and they are too expensive

[ancient jetty]

He had been Lusted over sluts🌽 on online perhaps ure comprehending what I'm trying to say he didn't give me physical infidelity but emotional infidelity several times N lied to me but bcoz of all this now I've realised that I don't deserve to be treated like this im not low value or lowlife girl like him

[formal pilot]

Pain is unavoidable, you'll suffer for a few days, keep one thing in mind that "it ended because it wasn't good", everything will get better with time

[feral river]

if you prefer android phones I would recommend samsung or oppo/huawei

[manic juniper]

They're both just as bad anyway

[manic juniper]

I liked Huawei but I had bad experiences with my last one, this phone is still going strong despite how old is it

[feral river]

xiaomi and redmi I would say... well too low

and cheap

[ancient jetty]

Yes

[manic juniper]

My last Huawei was showing signs of slowdowns after 2 years, this was still good after 4 and it's only getting had now after 5

[ancient jetty]

Wdym?

[feral river]

GET A FUCKING IPHONE

APPLE FUCK YEAH, AMERICA FUCK YEAH 🇺🇸

[manic juniper]

It's not less bad because it was simply online or emotionally adulterous, but anyway Aladdin is right, you have time to recollect yourself and have a better future

[manic juniper]

But most things that I use wouldn't work there

[formal pilot]

Redmi phones die like a hamster, replace it when it's running, otherwise the motherboard might blast

[manic juniper]

I'm addicted to unsigned apks

[feral river]

what ?

[feral river]

oh that sucks

[manic juniper]

Mine is lasting a ridiculously long time, believe it or not, I thought it was a class A phone despite the price

[feral river]

in that case you can use your computer to test something out

[sleek epoch]

Not all men but most of them don't care about ur feelings and they would forget about u in a minute and move on but you'll live the trauma so don't sit in ur room go outside breath some fresh air and try to forget about him

[feral river]

there's an app in Microsoft Store that could run android apps on your PC

[manic juniper]

Does iPhone support USB debugging?

[manic juniper]

But I want to run them on phone... That's the whole point of having a phone...

[feral river]

no I guess never tried that shit

[feral river]

kind of making so much sense

[gritty echo]

Probably no,

[manic juniper]

Anyway yes I considered getting a Samsung

[gritty echo]

Because of security,

[manic juniper]

My main issue is not having any incentive to replace this phone yet

[gritty echo]

[manic juniper]

It's slower but not slow enough to be completely unusable

[gritty echo]

Did you format it

[manic juniper]

No

[gritty echo]

I mean factory reset

What is your phone model

[manic juniper]

Maybe I should get a SIM converter and see if I can use my PS Vita again

I will give up most modern apks just to use a Vita again

[manic juniper]

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro

[ancient jetty]

Yes I'll..sure I'll use my intuition where I feel confused or direction less

[gritty echo]

Oh , it is an old phone

[manic juniper]

You're single so you have more free time to try new things you never tried before

Idk new games or stuff

[ancient jetty]

Yea now I'm focusing more on myself

[gritty echo]

With every update most apps use more CPU, battery or something like that and most of all not optimizing it for old phones

It can be like that , I don't know

Just a Guess

[thorny steeple]

Have you seen the Xbox handheld reveal?

[gritty echo]

It can be about your software, like hyperos or miui which one you are using I don't know

[gritty echo]

Yes I saw

[manic juniper]

It's a modded MIUI stripped of most useless additions and spyware

[gritty echo]

Oh, so your social credit is so low it can be because Xiaomi nerfed your phone

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[thorny steeple]

But she isn't Chinese how come she has a social credit score?

[gritty echo]

I think china is taking every user score

Not just for china

[manic juniper]

China thinks I must be Taiwanese because there are no info on their database

[gritty echo]

Oh it can be

[thorny steeple]

Well we're cooked 🍚

[gritty echo]

Cık cık cık , I give permission what they want

And my phone is still like a jet

Xioami spy watching my surface history

[manic juniper]

@thorny steeple

[gritty echo]

Cool

[thorny steeple]

Literally better because they aren't personal family lol

[gritty echo]

I'm cooked well

[thorny steeple]

Indeed Dinosaurs together strong!

[thorny steeple]

Indeed lmao

[flat smelt]

hi yall

[cloud moat]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

heyoo

hi@flat smelt @cloud moat hey

[cloud moat]

How are you @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

i just woke up to a nightmare

wby

[cloud moat]

Still alive

[wild sapphire]

I’m not “sir,” zinx lol

Serious chat has been popping

@sharp creek 454.4 mbps download speed and 551.5 mbps upload speed

[thorny steeple]

Which one is faster eh?

[wild sapphire]

I think you fail to realize that this isn’t a man issue it is a human issue

[manic juniper]

Updog

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[wild sapphire]

If you wake up we’ll disappear 😔

[wild sapphire]

“I always dance when I eat especially when a camera is trained on me and it will be uploaded to Instagram”

[sleek epoch]

U read all previous chat ☠️☠️ unemployment crises

[wild sapphire]

I am a fast reader

I also tutor english

[sleek epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/blobfish-reflection-big-nose-gif-15992552

[wild sapphire]

If I didn’t know how to read you can imagine how this would impact my ability to do my job

[sleek epoch]

Change ur name to blob fish

[wild sapphire]

Tempting but my name is a reference to my faith not to fish

[sleek epoch]

Wow

What faith btw

[wild sapphire]

Christian

[sleek epoch]

What does "Bumperfish" has to do with it

[wild sapphire]

You didn’t deny what I said earlier either

[sleek epoch]

What ? MAN issue?

[wild sapphire]

Human issue

Do you think faithfulness, goodness, are genetically hardwired into only one half of humanity

Well unfortunately that isn’t true of either sex

[sleek epoch]

Nope

[wild sapphire]

If it was, our situation would be vastly improved I think

No, I am of the opposite disposition

And it hasn’t been my experience

I have never dated but I have seen enough evil from across the spectrum of humanity

And the Bible affirms what I know to be true

People are evil

[sleek epoch]

They r indeed

[manic juniper]

Poor thing

[wild sapphire]

I had the same thought

Put it out there for a photoshoot

Half of these funny videos depict an animal or something suffering for the camera

Really hilarious

Maybe you are being facetious about its appearance though idk

[wild sapphire]

Can’t breathe air

[manic juniper]

?

[wild sapphire]

Maybe it’s dead already

[manic juniper]

It's dead, it can't survive looking like that

[wild sapphire]

Sad

[manic juniper]

It's like taking a photo of a person after a plane crash

[wild sapphire]

That’s awful 🙁

Like that stupid cat video or the one of the pufferfish

Hate these

[sharp creek]

all right thank you !

[wild sapphire]

Ofc zinx

[thorny steeple]

Very awful lmao

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

Hahaha lol

[wild sapphire]

Do you make these

Not the cat woman no

The dinosaur lady

Which btw is an awesome title

Lol i love that roar

Ah makes me laugh

Hmm the song isn’t half bad either

[wild sapphire]

Do you know the song?

Does anybody lol

[sharp creek]

hahaah ridiculous

insane video

[manic juniper]

Paranoid - Black Sabbath

[wild sapphire]

Noice

[wild sapphire]

Mmmmmmmmmm

Ah cool song

[gusty apex]

hi

[wild sapphire]

Your pfp looked interesting

And then it was armed religious zealots up close

Suddenly became not interesting

Oh well

[prisma cipher]

There is only one video that makes me laugh every time. https://youtu.be/A1IrRxoRkbQ?si=_bJ6wJs9SWcYU7mq

[gusty apex]

You need an elixir

[wild sapphire]

Neyro you should just unblock me

[gusty apex]

My pfp is the best

[wild sapphire]

I am fundamentally not your enemy

Why keep doing this and having to click on all my posts

[manic juniper]

Why

[prisma cipher]

Don't care, also unblocked

I have no enemy here at least from my side

[gusty apex]

look

[wild sapphire]

Neyro I might tease you because we disagree, but to dispel any doubts, I like you

I wouldn’t hurt you on purpose

[gusty apex]

January 19,2025

[wild sapphire]

If I accidentally offend you, and if there is good reason for it, just talk to me

I will apologize

[manic juniper]

All I see are ninjas with bulletproof vests

[prisma cipher]

It hard to believe but I don't care if you don't like me

[gusty apex]

thats the thing

[wild sapphire]

Sure, but I am speaking to the pragmatic side of things

[prisma cipher]

I prefer everyone like me tho.

[wild sapphire]

In this world, it is more expedient to have allies than enemies

[prisma cipher]

[manic juniper]

Must be the worst ninjas in the world if they need bulletproof vests

[wild sapphire]

And why make enemies where there are none

[gusty apex]

They

are mujahideen

After 20 months of fighting The ocupation with blood sweat, and tears

They emerged, showing the hypocritical world who are the real bosses

[prisma cipher]

Cool

[wild sapphire]

The ones who pay my bills

[wild sapphire]

Ofc

[gusty apex]

well your taxes go to fighting them

[manic juniper]

Did they also use ninjutsu

[wild sapphire]

That’s the opposite of paying my bills

[gusty apex]

u wanna know?

[manic juniper]

True

[gusty apex]

tax is oppression

[manic juniper]

But those people in your pfp were funded by taxes

[verbal abyss]

Ninjas do some good things in general thpse aren't

[gusty apex]

no

[verbal abyss]

More likely cost reduction for citizens

[manic juniper]

忍びの者>忍者

[gusty apex]

they were funded by oil momey

money

[wild sapphire]

True

[verbal abyss]

anime anime

[manic juniper]

They were trained by Americans, those were the result of tax funds

[thorny steeple]

hi

[wild sapphire]

She used the long form of ninja

People of stealth

I did not like spinosaurus in jurassic 3

[verbal abyss]

Based

[wild sapphire]

I mean i dont hate it, it does the job

Of being the big bad dino

[verbal abyss]

[wild sapphire]

Jurassic park?

A lot of the scenes in that montage she posted are from the jurassic movies

[verbal abyss]

I understood

Why its bad

[wild sapphire]

Spinosaurus is the big villain dinosaur

Oh it doesn’t resemble spinosaurus at all

And also i love t rex

[manic juniper]

Spinosaurus in JP3: literally insane, sadistic, fully irrational, immoral
Spinosaurus in real life: pheesh

[verbal abyss]

Have you met them irl?

[wild sapphire]

Based on what we know of them it is maybe one of the most inaccurate depictions of the dinosaur it claims to represent

[manic juniper]

Not directly

[wild sapphire]

Actually you know what i realize

They arent dinosaur movies they are monster movies

The indominus highlights the truth of all the dinosaurs in the previous movies

It spells it out for you more clearly- the humans remade the dinosaurs but made them worse

They created monster versions

[manic juniper]

Disappointed that they didn't link it to real life events

[verbal abyss]

Such as?

[wild sapphire]

Which do you refer to? “Dire wolves”?

[manic juniper]

No, chickens

Literally man-made worse dinosaurs

[wild sapphire]

Lol

But still cute

Lol

[manic juniper]

Some of them created for the sole purpose of mutual destruction

[wild sapphire]

We make me sad

[verbal abyss]

My dad used to keep me informed about every new excavations with some new information about dinosaurs 🤓🤓

It sounds funny

[wild sapphire]

That’s a cool hobby to have

Why lol

[verbal abyss]

?

[wild sapphire]

How does it sound funny

[verbal abyss]

Idk like imagine

[wild sapphire]

Your dad liked dinosaurs, that’s neat

[verbal abyss]

You do your daily routine and somebody call you to say "yo paleontologists found out that dinosaurs were colorful"

[wild sapphire]

That sounds cool

[verbal abyss]

Unexpected

[wild sapphire]

Ly awesome

Your dad loves you and loves dinosaurs

W x2

[verbal abyss]

The last update i remember is that he showed me that dinosaurs had feathers

I don't know how truly it is

[thorny steeple]

hi

[wild sapphire]

Hello billy madmouth

[wild sapphire]

I appreciate that you warn people in advance about why they should not pat you on the head and call you a good boy

I wish more people would be clearer about their triggers

[thorny steeple]

yes yes

[thorny steeple]

mhm

communication is the key

[wild sapphire]

It really is

Really is lol

[thorny steeple]

heh

if anybody wana be bob the builder , come fix me lol

[manic juniper]

Yes, pterosaurs too had feathers

They were a basal (primitive) feature of dinosaurs that was lost in some lineages

[wild sapphire]

I don’t know if anyone is capable of fixing another

Mm we can help each other by God’s grace

[verbal abyss]

That's obviously
I mean every dinos

[thorny steeple]

i dont belive in god

[manic juniper]

Did your dad say that

[wild sapphire]

We exist to help each other with our weaknesses I think, through love

In part, anyway

[wild sapphire]

I do

[verbal abyss]

He showed me some internet page

[thorny steeple]

i dont

[wild sapphire]

That but the opposite back at you

[thorny steeple]

yeah help me

[wild sapphire]

[formal pilot]

My perception of a European was completely opposite

[thorny steeple]

i aint asking anybody to do the work for me

i aint that dum

[wild sapphire]

Okay let’s start off by changing your pfp bio

[thorny steeple]

just be there and tell me YEAHHH U CAN DO IT

[manic juniper]

Money hoarders?

[thorny steeple]

eh no i like it

[wild sapphire]

YEAHHH U CAN change your pfp bio

[verbal abyss]

How do i say the antonym of exaggerate

[wild sapphire]

Understate

[verbal abyss]

Thanks

[thorny steeple]

whats wrong with my pfp doe

its a cute cat

[wild sapphire]

Your pfp is a cat

[thorny steeple]

i like cats

[wild sapphire]

Generic, tired, old hat

So does everyone new to the internet

You need something fresh, something new

Reinvent the wheel

[verbal abyss]

Zinx can cope with everything

[formal pilot]

They neglect family responsibilities, leaving each individual to fend for themselves

[wild sapphire]

Let me see what we can do for you

OH HO HO

[thorny steeple]

uh

[formal pilot]

Utahraptor also had feathers

[wild sapphire]

NOW HERE IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT LIKE

[thorny steeple]

uh huh