🧠｜serious-chat

[manic juniper]

They can be streamed

[wild sapphire]

This is amazing

[olive fractal]

but in Croc's/Carmageddons case, it's the fact that they used an unmodified engine from the mid 90s for a modern AAA game in 2016

[wild sapphire]

I have waited years to play some of these franchises

Oh man

I contented myself to read wiki articles and videos

[manic juniper]

I wonder what's the oldest engine still in use

[olive fractal]

either Unreal or some hyperspecific trading card shite

Unreal has some SERIOUS technical debt

[manic juniper]

There is also the Creation Engine from the early 2000s

[olive fractal]

like overusing skeletal meshes

[manic juniper]

But could be younger

[olive fractal]

wikipedia says it's from 2011

not that old

[manic juniper]

It's not the same as Morrowind's?

[wild sapphire]

Morrowind is ooolllld

It feels like it is

2002 wow

[manic juniper]

Apparently it's an iteration of Gamebryo

[olive fractal]

would have to take a look at the plugin system/general structure of the engine

[manic juniper]

The basics are the same as Skyrim's

[olive fractal]

for example, in BRender's case, they just grafted a bunch of Post Processing tech onto BRender

[manic juniper]

But I modded both of them on a superficial level

[wild sapphire]

Joe we should really have more video game conversations lol

I accustomed to hearing you talk about cars

You are quite knowledgable about games too

[manic juniper]

If you can play with it then joe knows

[wild sapphire]

That’s awesome

[manic juniper]

He is no wheel enthusiast

[wild sapphire]

[olive fractal]

I used to do some game dev, I was working on vehicle physics

[wild sapphire]

That’s awesome

[manic juniper]

How

[olive fractal]

but then Unreal ditched PhysX and I got mad and quit

[wild sapphire]

You have a lot of interesting technical knowledge about a lot of things

[wild sapphire]

I think it’s cool when somebody can understand how to fix things and take things apart

Idk i just find it respectable

[manic juniper]

My ex best friend was like that

But in a bad way

[wild sapphire]

Oh

[manic juniper]

She could take apart everything, and fix a fraction of them

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[manic juniper]

Props to her for resurrecting some of the worst treated PSPs to ever exist

We knew the previous owner

That was no easy task at all

[wild sapphire]

That is cool

Did you pick up some stuff from her?

[manic juniper]

No

I have no such skills at all

[wild sapphire]

You seem like you are good at tinkering or modifying things to a degree

At least with consoles and computers

Digital stuff

[manic juniper]

The best I did was assembling computers and solar panels

And taking apart printers

[wild sapphire]

I’m sorry about the ex best friend part

[manic juniper]

Fixing or modding digital stuff is different

You can learn by reading how to do it

[olive fractal]

I still have a few Saab Genuine Service guides I need to read

[manic juniper]

Even then you wouldn't be doing anything special

[wild sapphire]

Yeah i suppose that is true although i imagine it is also true of taking apart and fixing physical things too

I took apart a ps5 controller to figure out the drift problem

I watched a video about how to do it

Everything has a how to video now

[manic juniper]

But this is easy I think

[wild sapphire]

Yeah it’s not that involved

[manic juniper]

To me it's difficult once it comes to soldering

Or more than that

[wild sapphire]

It becomes dangerous

[manic juniper]

Actual hardware modifications, cutting wires and rewiring it

[wild sapphire]

Yeah

That requires experience

[manic juniper]

My aunt is a monster when it comes to that

I wish she taught someone the art because she'll be the last in the family with that kind of skill

[wild sapphire]

Your aunt sounds awesome too

[olive fractal]

I feel like your aunt is a monster at everything

[manic juniper]

A bit, my mum is more exceptional I think

But my aunt can do one more exceptional thing, speedrunning can be done by few

[wild sapphire]

You come from a family of exceptional people it seems

I say that in the neutral sense

[manic juniper]

Only my aunt and my mum

[olive fractal]

my dad used to be a great mechanic and gamer, but he refuses to accept Saab's greatness

[manic juniper]

Lol

My aunt is a blacksmith and speedrunner

But I honestly envy how my father plays games

[wild sapphire]

Gosh that’s awesome, which is a word i am using a lot but still

[manic juniper]

He experiences them in a way that I've never seen any other person doing

[mellow cloud]

My great grandmother had a vast knowledge of all local herbs and fauna which one could make teas out of... she never taught anyone any of that 😂 Died with her

[wild sapphire]

Even your dad plays games

[wild sapphire]

What do you mean

[manic juniper]

He is a very slow gamer

[olive fractal]

my dad was also reluctant to teach me ANYTHING

[wild sapphire]

Oh that’s sad

[manic juniper]

He plays RPGs or really open games with stories and choices

[mellow cloud]

AHAHAHAH that happens. It's like they're good "doers" but not teachers

[manic juniper]

He writes a diary and makes drawings as if he's part of them in real life and he's going through them

[wild sapphire]

Oh my gosh i looooooove this

I have thought of doing something like this a couple of times

[mellow cloud]

ohhhh that is so cute

[wild sapphire]

That’s soooooo coooool

[olive fractal]

that's really cool ngl

[manic juniper]

He prepares before starting to play a game he will be fully immersed in

[mellow cloud]

right?! I wish I had the patience for that

[wild sapphire]

I love it

[manic juniper]

And the creativity

[wild sapphire]

Whaaaaaat i love your dad

[manic juniper]

I legit can't imagine that

[olive fractal]

I just found the video that got me into engineering (and by extension cars) all those years ago

[wild sapphire]

[olive fractal]

Ari Vatanen's Climb Dance

[wild sapphire]

Your whole family are super dedicated gamers that’s crazy

[mellow cloud]

there's a saying: Everyone is a scientist with a fully developed sense of curiosity - it is just often beaten out of most people

[wild sapphire]

I love the idea of that

[olive fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zVD-uJIAII
my god I remember watching it as a bonus video on VRally 2

[wild sapphire]

I have thought of creating like a travel journal when playing through a game like monster hunter or zelda

[manic juniper]

Only these three, but my mum quit

[olive fractal]

as the old saying goes: humans are naturally fond of learning until they go to school

[wild sapphire]

And drawing our observations and stuff like an actual travel journal

That’s so cool that he does it i loove it lol

[wild sapphire]

Adulting is hard i guess

That’s too cool lol

[manic juniper]

Also true

My passion for biology leaving my body shortly after going to university

[olive fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSbSTaJYJmQ

that's a better video

[wild sapphire]

I hate the education system it makes learning arduous and terrible

[manic juniper]

Do you wish you were born in Finland, so you could modify your car, drink beer upside down, do nothing and stuff like that?

[olive fractal]

yes.

[wild sapphire]

That sounds fun lol

[olive fractal]

Saabs would be cheaper as well

[wild sapphire]

I dont understand finland life lol

[olive fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9edQZKw3Y

gotta love Secto Rally Suomi

[wild sapphire]

You have a chicken

[manic juniper]

Waiting for the P word hard R

Lmfao

Few seconds in and he's already throwing every profanity he can

[olive fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRA6ySltVI0

love Rovanperä

different breed that guy

[wild sapphire]

You should make videos of you fixing stuff or stream or something

[olive fractal]

I think it'd get taken down due to profanity

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[olive fractal]

maybe idk

planning on getting another Volvo anyway

either a 240 or 850

[wild sapphire]

My sister did streaming

She would stream art and games

I think she still does it

She drew herself a little creature as an avatar that moves with her face that kind of thing

She sort of reset her online presence when her ex cheated on her

[olive fractal]

technically I could also buy a Fiat Coupe 20VT, owning one would spawn many, MANY streams

[olive fractal]

that's unfortunate

[wild sapphire]

It is for both parties

[manic juniper]

"I don't know what to say, sorry for wrecking the car"

[wild sapphire]

I feel bad for my sister, i also feel bad for her ex

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-tiny-small-bye-swimming-away-gif-17097231

[wild sapphire]

He was consumed by his porn addiction which eventually translated into the indulgence of his fantasies when he gained money

And he began to visit prostitutes

[olive fractal]

this would be the only thing I'd spend money on if I had them big munz

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f-6_GQnfS9c

a marvel of swedish engineering

[wild sapphire]

This is cool

[olive fractal]

it is

[wild sapphire]

My poor sister

Anyway sorry lol

Video games and cars

But i think chat is dead lol

[manic juniper]

What do you think of Koenigsegg?

[olive fractal]

I'm still here

[manic juniper]

I was watching the videos

[olive fractal]

pretty cool, but mostly uninteresting since they're not a thng for regular consumers

took over a bunch of ex-Saab employees

[wild sapphire]

I wish we could see your dad’s journals

Lol i just keep thinking about that, i want to see them

The idea sounds so cool

I wonder if he treats them like a personal diary

[manic juniper]

Are their innovations over hyped or real deal?

[wild sapphire]

Like wants to keep it private

[manic juniper]

They are private

[wild sapphire]

Ahh

[manic juniper]

But he let me read his older ones

[olive fractal]

most of their cool stuff were Saab-concepts, still waiting for them to build the SVC engine - Saab's Variable Compression engine

[wild sapphire]

Does he make technical observations or observations in character?

[manic juniper]

He describes what he experienced and the events themselves

His emotions and idk how to describe it

[wild sapphire]

Like “today i was attacked by a troll on the hoarfrost pass”

[manic juniper]

They also have drawings or how he imagined them, and sometimes there is more

Like real plants or bird feathers

Taped on a page of diary

[wild sapphire]

That he takes and placed in the

As standins for what he saw in the game

[manic juniper]

Yes

[wild sapphire]

Ou my gosh i love it

[manic juniper]

Not necessarily because those games weren't really detailed

But he imagined a forest would look like that

[wild sapphire]

I love this

[manic juniper]

I guess they were important then

[wild sapphire]

Your dad is kind of cool lol

Or a nerd idk i get them mixed up sometimes

Lol but i want to try that

I want to get a traveler journal for this purpose

[olive fractal]

Saab also developed the world's most common AWD-system: Haldex. Which can now be found in most modern AWDs and 4x4s

[wild sapphire]

That would be so cool

Okay im done asking about it i think i have enough lol

[manic juniper]

Are these Koenigsegg innovations ever going to end up in a normal car? Or will they be restricted for quite some time?

[olive fractal]

most if not all Koeniggsegg-stuff will stay at Koeniggsegg

[wild sapphire]

I need to find a good game

[olive fractal]

Volvo and Polestar occasionally still do cool things

[wild sapphire]

Skyrim

I havent played it through

[olive fractal]

play Skylanders

[wild sapphire]

I tried it once

I want a game i can actually

[olive fractal]

btw Saab also developed FreeValve in corporation with AVL List

[wild sapphire]

Or fallout hmmm

I like the ides of skyrim

[manic juniper]

Is it because they're patented?

[olive fractal]

which is now owned by Koeniggsegg and will practically never be seen in any other car

[olive fractal]

yup

RND cost of this funky stuff is also outrageous

that's why Saab went bankrupt

multiple times

grr I hate when some shonky news outlets claim FreeValve is a Koeniggsegg Technology

https://www.freevalve.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Saab-with-camless-engine_timeline.jpg

[manic juniper]

Koenigsegg is the evil version of Saab

[olive fractal]

Van Koenigsegg was shameless enough to present Saab's test mule as his own work

[manic juniper]

Now I hate it

But I will still buy those cars in any game they are featured

I will mod them to feature Saab insignias everywhere

[wild sapphire]

This is actually fun nerd talk to watch

[manic juniper]

I will call them with Saab names and models

[olive fractal]

https://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Untitled-116.jpg

oh man look at that Koeniggsegg that coincidentally looks like a Saab 9-5 I Phase III

[manic juniper]

Or create new ones

[olive fractal]

that'd be Opels lol

Saab's nomenclature was in-line with their jets

[manic juniper]

It's identical

[olive fractal]

Saab's motorsport division was awesome

random shed in a stallbäckan forest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22kPfqRmShI

[wild sapphire]

sorry does your dad do separate journals?

Like dedicate one to each game?

[manic juniper]

Usually yes except for series

[wild sapphire]

Look at this beauty

[manic juniper]

He only separates those if the pages are all filled

Ultima for example

[wild sapphire]

I love the act of writing on paper

And i have some nice pens, with nibs and several inks

This would give me an excuse to do multiple things i love

[manic juniper]

It feels like they are 19th century Nordic people

[wild sapphire]

I need the perfect game though

[manic juniper]

Even the way they look, it's similar to the fashion of those times

[manic juniper]

Ultima VII

Perfect game(s)

[olive fractal]

https://imgur.com/a/Czr2b5w

that was the entire facility

Per and his team managed to build a car that held the Pikes Peak record for 14 years. Porsche only managed to beat their time because they converted the track to tarmac

[manic juniper]

This is peak grunge

It's that Finnish rally game on steroids

[olive fractal]

I think it's obvious that Saab ran out of funds

[manic juniper]

Complete with a guy with strange haircut and facial hair from the 19th century

[olive fractal]

his nickname was Mr. X lol

[manic juniper]

Isn't that the villain from Streets of Rage

[olive fractal]

Mr X was on the brink of death when they built the car, he had cancer

[manic juniper]

Sad but awesome how he kept going

[olive fractal]

I think so, yeah

[olive fractal]

he was dying of lung cancer and still couldn't let go of his two packs a day

[manic juniper]

Where was he from? Which city or town

Why do I have the impression of this guy being from Gotland or nearby

[olive fractal]

can't remember, would have to ask someone

everyone just calls him 'The X'

okay nvm just asked someone, his name was Leif Ahl

[manic juniper]

Can't find much on him but I bet he's from there

They live their lives as if their world is going through a zombie apocalypse

[olive fractal]

he knew he had little time left

but he also knew it was enough time to finish that damn car

he was very happy they managed to beat Audi, Mr X wasn't a fan of the germans

with that being sad, gn yall

[manic juniper]

Goodnight joe

I'll keep watching the video

[median isle]

Hey guys !

[wild sapphire]

Hey!

I love art, you draw?

Did you draw your pfp?

[plain belfry]

@median isle hello

What kind of art do you practice?

[tulip zenith]

guys have u seen the breakup of Elon Musk and trump?

[wild sapphire]

Who hasn’t

People who have better things to do I guess

Trading barbs on twitter

Like they were in serious chat

President of the United States and richest man in the world

Can’t take the human out of the human

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s your username

[tulip zenith]

idk, it's why i'm asking lol

[wild sapphire]

It’s the big news

[tulip zenith]

fr

i just realized it

[wild sapphire]

If you put Trump and Elon here and gave them goofy names they would be indistinguishable from the average discorder

[tulip zenith]

but it was something expected, no one was expecting something good from that simbiotic relationship

[wild sapphire]

Except trump would say huge every few seconds and elon would make copious allusions to 420

Again indistinguishable

[tulip zenith]

XDD

fr

[wild sapphire]

Was it really

I was waiting

Trump can’t share

[wild sapphire]

Ooh forgive me yes

You are right, it was expected, I misread it as unexpected

[tulip zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/tentofate-elmo-elmo-staring-gif-11901234066681497328

[wild sapphire]

Ridiculous thing

[tulip zenith]

which of all parts? the ppl who really trusted them or the ending?

[wild sapphire]

The all of it

[tulip zenith]

it was hilarious

[wild sapphire]

I hate politics

[tulip zenith]

Firstly they were focused on the budget and savings, and now everything points to an inminent financial crissis

[tulip zenith]

indeed

[wild sapphire]

I would rather watch star wars

[tulip zenith]

harry poter

even better

[wild sapphire]

At least the senate in star wars is more entertaining

[tulip zenith]

fr

[wild sapphire]

Im not a huge potter guy

I know it though

Lol dont worry i can see the appeal

Its like star wars in many ways

[tulip zenith]

indeed

[wild sapphire]

They shoot magic like lasers

[tulip zenith]

XDDDDD frrrr

[wild sapphire]

Hero’s journey

Classic good vs evil

[tulip zenith]

love

[wild sapphire]

How do you feel about the remake?

[tulip zenith]

what ramake? 💀

when where

why?

[wild sapphire]

They are turning it into an hbo long form show

[tulip zenith]

no way

[wild sapphire]

I’ll give you one guess

Yes

[tulip zenith]

they could finish it with a good ending but nooooo, the fucking hollywood wants assets 😭

[wild sapphire]

Starts with m and rhymes with filthy lucre

[tulip zenith]

😭

harry poter shouldn't be an asset, not anymore

[wild sapphire]

I cant expect this show to be a phenomenon

I remember that series was like

[tulip zenith]

it's been around 3 or more years since it finished, why they are aiming to continue it 😭

[wild sapphire]

Things die

[tulip zenith]

fr

[wild sapphire]

You just have to be grateful for being there when they happened

[tulip zenith]

indeed

[wild sapphire]

And the world moves on

[tulip zenith]

as a child i used to be a real keen-on

😭 always fucking it

[wild sapphire]

Im sorry?

Im not sure i understand this

Well no im sure i dont lol

[tulip zenith]

i used to be a fan of harry poter in general

[wild sapphire]

They call them keen-ons?

Lol sorry

Im american

The bad guys was a good movie btw

[wild sapphire]

How is it we have no mutuals

[tulip zenith]

keen on, without the -

[wild sapphire]

Keenon

[tulip zenith]

wasn't keen on?

i can swear i heard it as keen on

[wild sapphire]

Oh my gosh

I see what you did i get it

“I wasnt keen on this”

You inverted it into a positive form

You were keen on harry potter

[tulip zenith]

i'd say i'm gettin u but not the case lmao

[tulip zenith]

indeed

[wild sapphire]

I know the phrase keen on

[tulip zenith]

there u go

[wild sapphire]

Its an older code but it checks out

But you turned it into a noun

A keen on is someone who greatly enjoys something

[tulip zenith]

old-fashioned

[wild sapphire]

I havent heard anyone use this phrase leastways as a noun

Neat

[tulip zenith]

me neither lmao, did it wrong i guess

[wild sapphire]

No i like it

You could start a new slang

A lot of modern slang are simplified versions of very very old idioms and phrases

[tulip zenith]

😈

[wild sapphire]

Let him cook

This used to be “we are cooking with petrol” or “gas”

[tulip zenith]

indeed, it lacked the subject , used to be keen on harry poter

[tulip zenith]

🧑‍🍳

is it better

[wild sapphire]

Im too tired to think of other examples just immediately but there are other examples

I love it lol, zappy, punchy

Brevity is the soul of wit as they say

[tulip zenith]

zappy

[wild sapphire]

Yeah bzoow

[tulip zenith]

-bumperfish

[wild sapphire]

Lol

You quoted me quoting someone else

You know what this phrase means

Tutoring english is something i do

You never have to be embarrassed around me

[wild sapphire]

It means that if you wish to be witty, you need to keep it short

[turbid dome]

In other news, what do we think of Netanyahu confirming that Israel is funding ISIS affiliated gangs to steal food from Palestinians

[wild sapphire]

I hate isis

[tulip zenith]

indeed

[tulip zenith]

what's an isis

[wild sapphire]

Its a vile group of terrorists and psychopaths

[turbid dome]

Islamic state, best known variations are probably Isis-K and Isil, it’s a terrorist network

[wild sapphire]

Why isis would even agree to help Israel boggles the mind

[turbid dome]

Not at all.

[wild sapphire]

I guess we are abandoning all pretense of having any other goals than money and power

[turbid dome]

They both like to do the same thing when you think about it. Both big fans of genocide

Israel has sold them oil in the past according to former Israeli intelligence operatives

[wild sapphire]

Lovely

[turbid dome]

Yup

[wild sapphire]

People dont usually do genocide for the sake of it, there tends to be more practical or expedient reasons, eg power and money

But they dress it up in other reasons that sound better on instagram

Not good reasons

Isis touted itself as being more pure than Hamas

More in line with Islamic fundamentalism, and they sold out

[turbid dome]

Genocide is ideological. Isis does it because they wish to establish a salafist caliphate, and want to inspire total obedience, so they killed all yazidis who didn’t convert.

Israel does it because Palestinians have a claim to their land, and since Israel stole all of the land from Palestinians, they want to kill then all to prevent future land claims.

[wild sapphire]

That is my point

They only made it sound ideological, although sure i know there are ideologically committed zealots

That’s what people do, it makes it sound better

And now they take marching orders from Israel

Money

[turbid dome]

Yup

Though Isis isn’t doing it for money

[wild sapphire]

Helping Israel doesn’t help them establish their global caliphate

[turbid dome]

Well it’s specifically Isis affiliated who are Stuck in Gaza, they’re collaborating with the hopes of getting special privileges during the genocide instead of being killed themselves

[wild sapphire]

That situation is ugly

[turbid dome]

Also it sort of does, Israel’s insane actions are radicalizing the world against it and putting a chip in American power.

[wild sapphire]

This is what hatred does

[turbid dome]

Yup, end anti-Palestinian hatred

[wild sapphire]

It is mutual

And they both know it

This is why it cant be fixed

Like trying to get a mongoose and a viper to get along

They are locked forever in mutual hatred and determination to kill each other

[tulip zenith]

👁️

[manic juniper]

Talking about Palestine here will awake the beast

[tulip zenith]

what a shame

[tulip zenith]

lmaoooo

[wild sapphire]

Who is the beast?

[manic juniper]

Just talk about it enough and he will manifest himself

[wild sapphire]

Lol

The only thing you can do is evacuate the innocents on both sides before the fire consumes everything

[turbid dome]

Seems pretty one sided to me, Palestinians just want to go back to their homes.

[bold forum]

i'm here

[wild sapphire]

They hate each other

Too many wrong doings for too many years

There will be no forgiveness

[turbid dome]

It’s extremely one sided

The only thing they hate is that Israel keeps killing them

[wild sapphire]

If you say so

That would be nice if true, makes it easier to solve

Marginally

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s as simple as Israel not existing as an apartheid state and being a state of equal rights

And some reperations for Palestinians

[atomic owl]

Yeah nah bros

[wild sapphire]

Oh i wonder if this is the beast

[wild sapphire]

Are you the beast

[tulip zenith]

does someone have a video explaining the lore of the fight?

[wild sapphire]

The trump elon fight

[atomic owl]

What is "beast"?

[turbid dome]

Trump-Elon?

[tulip zenith]

nope, israel and gaza

[wild sapphire]

Kirby is kind of a beast

[atomic owl]

Ms Beast?

[wild sapphire]

Yeah basically

[atomic owl]

...why? Why do you think that?

[wild sapphire]

He eats everything that moves

[manic juniper]

You're not him...

[bold forum]

I'm a mammal though

[tulip zenith]

who's him?

[wild sapphire]

English server must be boring now

[atomic owl]

Yeah... But isn't his fault that he has an entirely black hole inside of his stomach

You don't understand him 😭

[wild sapphire]

In the lore he is an apocalyptic deity

[turbid dome]

https://www.dropsitenews.com/

idk if a single video could do it justice but I think there’s some good independent journalism like here

[atomic owl]

Oh, so... :0 I'LL SUCK YOU

[wild sapphire]

There is a chaos force that 😐

[manic juniper]

My favourite quotes of his:
"Law/rule without enforcement are toilet paper"
"Long live the war on terror 🇺🇲🇨🇳🇬🇧🇲🇫🇸🇮"

[wild sapphire]

I will assume you mean in the kirby way

[wild sapphire]

He’s not a beast lol

[manic juniper]

Wait I used the wrong flag there, that's Slovenia

Pretend that Slovenia is a superpower

[atomic owl]

😐 prove it fr me

[wild sapphire]

Law rule without enforcement are toilet paper lol

Should be a bumper sticker

[turbid dome]

It is

[bold forum]

sure

[atomic owl]

Yah...

[turbid dome]

You should be able to bypass lol

[wild sapphire]

No dirty jokes

[wild sapphire]

What is this?

[tulip zenith]

oh yeah

[turbid dome]

News site

[tulip zenith]

the lore og gaza/israel

war

[atomic owl]

Actually I didn't know how to say "engolir" from portuguese to English... I thought it was "suck"

[wild sapphire]

Is this some kind of trustworthy site?

[atomic owl]

Ok, It doesn't matter anymore

[wild sapphire]

It’s okay

Kirby does suck up his enemies

[atomic owl]

I love him

[wild sapphire]

Kirby is boring

Lol but i did like forgotten land

And i like kirbo

[wild sapphire]

He is wholesome

Did you play forgotten land?

[atomic owl]

😮

[turbid dome]

Yeah, it’s founded by some intercept DC Bureau chief

[atomic owl]

No... I just like him because he is cute :)... I don't know basically nothing about him

[wild sapphire]

Kirby

[turbid dome]

They have exclusive interviews that nobody else bothers to get

[wild sapphire]

Totally fair

[atomic owl]

So, those games I don't know

But if you want to talk about it, you're free

[wild sapphire]

I would talk about it if you enjoyed it

But i am not a huge kirby guy

[atomic owl]

Oh, Nintendo switch... I thought Kirby's games stopped in 2000's

[wild sapphire]

Forgotten land is the first 3d platformer for kirby

[atomic owl]

No problem bro

[wild sapphire]

Interesting

[atomic owl]

Interesting, I'm searching here

[wild sapphire]

I wonder why

[turbid dome]

Yup

[turbid dome]

Because nobody else wants to interview Hamas, because then they would have to reckon with what Hamas actually says and does versus the Israeli portrayal they’ve blindly accepted

[wild sapphire]

You like hamas

[turbid dome]

As an independent site they don’t have corporate incentives

[manic juniper]

Racist

[turbid dome]

Personally I’m partial to the pflp or even dflp, I don’t like Hamas for its domestic politics, but I understand why they take the actions they do in terms of Israel policy

[wild sapphire]

You would love California

[turbid dome]

They’re not unsophisticated jihadists, nor are they perfect anti-imperialists, they’re a mix of various ideologies

Lol

[manic juniper]

It's difficult to take a stance when none of the factions has "Big Monkey" in the name

[wild sapphire]

True

That would win me over

Simple man

Ofc if another group emerged called bigger monkey

Well

[turbid dome]

Actually not plfp, plf

[wild sapphire]

Truly

You would find your people here martini

I want you to find them because i know how it is to be alone

You dont need to look here on discord

[turbid dome]

lol I sort of doubt it’s commifornia

[wild sapphire]

There exists many of your species

Many of them talk like this

[turbid dome]

Some of them do

[wild sapphire]

The communist bit, the hamas bit

You would love it

[turbid dome]

There’s definitely some communists, but what did I say about Hamas lol

[wild sapphire]

You admire hamas

[turbid dome]

All I said is they’re not unsophisticated jihadists

[wild sapphire]

And not perfect anti imperialists

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[wild sapphire]

Both of their critiques were in a positive light

[manic juniper]

Where would I fit best in USA

[turbid dome]

I was being a bit facetious in that they’re not exactly in line with my ideology

[wild sapphire]

You are exceptional

I say this in the neutral sense

I dont know anyone like you

[manic juniper]

Isn't there a place with few people who don't want to talk much and do their things

[wild sapphire]

No thats not true

[turbid dome]

You wouldn’t fit in here I think, if I had to choose though I would say Alaska because it’s similar weather

[turbid dome]

New York City if people were less loud

[manic juniper]

Isn't that the place with the highest murder rates

[wild sapphire]

I have met someone who kind of helped me to understand my earlier interactions with you

[manic juniper]

Would instantly self-combust in a place that populated

[turbid dome]

I thought that was somewhere in the south but idk, probabky up there

[turbid dome]

Probably, I think Finland is probably the best place for you tbh, European culture is generally much more quiet than American

Again, Alaska

That’s all I can think of lol

[manic juniper]

I like Romanians and Ukrainians

They have the best sense of humour and adventurous spirit out of all people I've met in Europe

I think I could easily live in either of those

[turbid dome]

No bias there whatsoever

[manic juniper]

I'm not similar to them at all but they are easy to adapt to me

[turbid dome]

Lol Balkanoids are cool

Ukrainians are chill

[wild sapphire]

I would like to meet romanians and Ukrainians from your descriptor

But i may be an alien as an american

[manic juniper]

To them Finnish people are just as alien

We never visit those countries

[turbid dome]

Though by far the most adventurous Europeans I met are probably Norwegian, sorry to say

[bold forum]

minneapolis

[manic juniper]

Where is that

[turbid dome]

I would almost agree except midwesterners are too friendly

[manic juniper]

Is it a state, I think not

[bold forum]

city in minnesota

love that place

[manic juniper]

Minnesota, ok I like it because of the name

[turbid dome]

It’s south Canada pretty much

I’m not kidding they all say it like min a sohhdddaaaa

[bold forum]

bruh the accent isn't real LMAo

[manic juniper]

I saw that Biden clip

[turbid dome]

It’s real lllll

[manic juniper]

I now consider "soda" to be a Biden reference

[turbid dome]

lol he doesn’t have the accent

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[bold forum]

i didn't hear it once when i was there hahaha

[turbid dome]

I’ll find an accent

[wild sapphire]

Poor biden

[manic juniper]

But he shouted "SODA!!!"

[turbid dome]

I knew someone from there once who talked like that

[turbid dome]

Not the same

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/soda-gif-8026056502744469335

It's certainly defining

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[manic juniper]

Let's invite Trump to Finland so he calls it by its original, real name and we make a meme out of it

[wild sapphire]

Oh boy

[turbid dome]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XQWWR-ni0Hg?si=hcl-Lc5SrSD2OOle

this is the accent

I just found this clip don’t question the context

I didn’t want to find a better one

[manic juniper]

Häme people speak like that

[turbid dome]

lol

[manic juniper]

Italians are quite adventurous too, and also Spaniards and the Romanians or Moldovans living in Italy

[wild sapphire]

I want to visit Spain

Everyone I know who has been there love it

Well there a lot of places I wish to visit

Ah well

[manic juniper]

Not Barcelona

[wild sapphire]

Why?

[manic juniper]

Never seen that much degeneracy at once

Saddest I've ever seen

[wild sapphire]

What?

I’m afraid to ask

It could be a joke or it could be serious

[manic juniper]

Joke how

[wild sapphire]

I’m not sure which this is

[manic juniper]

If it was a joke about degeneracy I'd pick Sweden

But it's not

[wild sapphire]

Are you allowed to say what it was?

[turbid dome]

Everyone who goes to Barcelona comes back pretending they can say Barcelona correctly

That’s the joke

[wild sapphire]

Idk i cant imagine what you mean

[manic juniper]

That guy had more holes than the average human

[turbid dome]

It’s not pronounced how it looks to native English speakers

[manic juniper]

[wild sapphire]

No isfrun’s comment

[turbid dome]

Oh 💀

[manic juniper]

He was no small outlier either

[wild sapphire]

I still don’t understand this oh drugs use

Drugs?

Lol whatever maybe it’s better this way

[manic juniper]

Besides that guy and similar people the city is nice

Anything from that peninsula has good architecture, and anything they conquered too

[turbid dome]

Who conquered, the Spanish or the umayyads

[manic juniper]

I'm being tracked

[turbid dome]

Lmaooooo

By what

[manic juniper]

53 65 20 6F 6E 20 6F 68 69

[turbid dome]

It’s over?

What happened

[wild sapphire]

These numbers look familiar

These configurations

[turbid dome]

Yup

[wild sapphire]

Better to let people guess

[tulip zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bird-bird-cat-pointer-finger-point-finger-cat-bird-point-finger-cat-gif-2676038606799380578

[tulip zenith]

Who took me a pic?

[wild sapphire]

I want to know what this is

[thorny steeple]

Is that right?

[wild sapphire]

Morse code or something

[tulip zenith]

lol

[wild sapphire]

Pregnant gray mare

[thorny steeple]

What is that language

[tulip zenith]

[thorny steeple]

Damn

[tulip zenith]

fk

bro is in trouble

[wild sapphire]

Hexadecimal

[thorny steeple]

I know the numbers

[wild sapphire]

You know how we usually count to ten and then cycle through to the next ten

[thorny steeple]

But i asked about "se on ohi"

[thorny steeple]

Iam engineering student

[tulip zenith]

se on ohi

[tulip zenith]

what's ur major bout?

[thorny steeple]

Finnish

[thorny steeple]

That's the language

[tulip zenith]

eh?

[thorny steeple]

Communication

[tulip zenith]

Communicator engineer?

what's it bout?

i've never heard about it before

[thorny steeple]

Communications Engineering

[tulip zenith]

same

[turbid dome]

lol yup

[thorny steeple]

Communication engineering involves designing, developing, and maintaining systems that transmit information. This field encompasses various areas like telecommunications, computer networking, satellite communication, and wireless technologies. Communication engineers are responsible for ensuring the reliable and efficient transfer of data, voice, and video across different media.

[tulip zenith]

but i mean, what do u do as a communicator engineer?

[tulip zenith]

so, like a cisco engineer?

i'm engineering too gentleman

cisco's developer

to ur service

[thorny steeple]

My specialty is closer to electricity than to networks, specifically Cisco.

[thorny steeple]

Nice, you certified in what?

[tulip zenith]

😔 i was looking forward to exchanging opinions and weird stuff, although i'm an electronics technician

[tulip zenith]

i'm jk 😔 i'm not yet

do u have a master degree?

i know a little bit bout electricity

[thorny steeple]

So you do Arduino stuff and robotics or other stuff?

[tulip zenith]

since i took some courses bout it

[tulip zenith]

not yet 😔 i still learn oop programation and db

[thorny steeple]

Iam 20 😭

Second year

[tulip zenith]

omgggg, how are u even an engineer at the age of 20?

[tulip zenith]

ohhh

so, u haven't finished your major, have u?

[thorny steeple]

...

[tulip zenith]

i'm blind XDDDD

lmaooooooooooooooooooo

sorry my bad, i'm sleepy as hell uknow

[thorny steeple]

Yes there's still 3 years

[thorny steeple]

Np

[tulip zenith]

what a pity

[thorny steeple]

(Maybe more)

[tulip zenith]

and are u planning on doing a master's degree?

[thorny steeple]

It's in my future plans, but who knows what will happen in three years? No one knows.

[tulip zenith]

indeed

[thorny steeple]

And i have thoughts to switch to computer engineering

[tulip zenith]

Ai's about to conquer us 😔

[tulip zenith]

it's a completely different world, but u'll always have fun

that's for sure

[thorny steeple]

It's about to finish us off.

[tulip zenith]

frrrr

an ai is about to replace me 😭

[elfin holly]

Wsp

[tulip zenith]

hiiii

[thorny steeple]

Mark zuckerberg speech was so terrifying ngl

[tulip zenith]

the anime on ur pfp, such a disgrace 😭

[tulip zenith]

FRFRRRRRR

[elfin holly]

🙏

[tulip zenith]

my worst dream is about elon musk firing me 😭

[thorny steeple]

Whats ur opinion

[tulip zenith]

where's the context behind that?

[wild sapphire]

Err is this real?

[ocean tapir]

I like Michal Jordan for his basketball gameplay. Not because his religion or his opinion about LGBTQ.

[thorny steeple]

heyyy

[turbid dome]

Not even true

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/jan/27/facebook-posts/no-michael-jordan-did-not-call-for-a-ban-on-pride/

it was satire but some people decided not to understand and spun it into fake news

[turbid dome]

No

[sharp creek]

Hello guys, how fast is your internet and how much does it cost

[turbid dome]

No idea, it never quite works as it’s supposed to, unless by Ethernet. And wayyyyyyy too much

[eager geyser]

whats so serious

[mystic pebble]

My life

[stable stream]

Un grrr is so serious

[thorny steeple]

I'm serious

Ask me

[feral river]

even our education system is rigged, still better than this piece of shit

those people are just regular people but having their own identity which nobody gives a fuck

and the majority will dominate the minority

[eager geyser]

i dont think so

[mystic pebble]

Great thinking

[eager geyser]

ya

[wild sapphire]

I bet you have an interesting origin story

[feral river]

No idea on where should I start

But overall it’s not that bad

[wild sapphire]

Go on

[wild sapphire]

Let’s start with the beginning

how about the day you discovered Minecraft

Were you always Chinese

When did you decide power was all that mattered

[manic juniper]

3 Gbps, I don't pay for it

[verbal abyss]

I took British Council English test that gave me B1 in February and now i got C1
Is it even possible, did i underrate myself or i got lucky with random answers

[wild sapphire]

Your internet is blisteringly fast

[manic juniper]

It was faster when I used to pay for it

5 Gbps

[verbal abyss]

Keep paying

[manic juniper]

Why would I pay if I'm not there most of the times

[verbal abyss]

Just to enrich company

[manic juniper]

Does the company fund reptiles

It's immoral to enrich mammals

[verbal abyss]

I would say company is ran by reptiles

[wild sapphire]

How do you feel about facebook

[verbal abyss]

Mark Zuckerberg is a gay

[wild sapphire]

They love to joke mark could be a reptile

[verbal abyss]

A gay reptile*

[manic juniper]

It used to have cool games

[wild sapphire]

Lol it actually did

I remember that

[manic juniper]

Deleting an account from there is a nightmare

[wild sapphire]

I havent used facebook in ages

[manic juniper]

I think mine was finally deleted

[wild sapphire]

Yeah same

[manic juniper]

Not that it ever featured my photos but it kept sending me emails

[thorny steeple]

Very nightmare fuel ⛽

[wild sapphire]

I used to upload drawings and stuff

[verbal abyss]

I used facebook once just to order my favorite rare beverage
They alsmost sent my order to Georgia state while i was in the country of Georgia

[wild sapphire]

What is your rare beverage?

[manic juniper]

Horrible

[verbal abyss]

Some Mountain dew rare flavors

[wild sapphire]

Like what lol

Are you a mountain dew connoisseur

[manic juniper]

I just recall having beef with the Bosnian classmate on this game

[verbal abyss]

There are a lot which i only saw in USA

[verbal abyss]

Yuppp

[wild sapphire]

I feel like you are very competitive

[manic juniper]

No

[wild sapphire]

What was the nature of this beef

[wild sapphire]

Overflowing with milk and rare mountain dew flavors

[manic juniper]

He was around my level when I started and we grew our empires at the same pace but mine was always a step beyond

This means that he was prime farming material

[wild sapphire]

😔

[verbal abyss]

I think Halloween 2022 is the rarest can i got

[wild sapphire]

That’s a flavor

[verbal abyss]

Yeah its called Voo-doo or something

[manic juniper]

What happened during Halloween 2022

[verbal abyss]

Spooky scary skeletons

[wild sapphire]

Voo doo flavor was released

What does voo doo taste like exactly

[verbal abyss]

They release it every year

[wild sapphire]

Ectoplasm

[manic juniper]

Did you collect the can

[wild sapphire]

This is a good question

[verbal abyss]

They didn't even write flavor in this i don't know

[wild sapphire]

Do you have a collection of bottles and cans you can show us

[verbal abyss]

Yeah i used to have various collection but now i bring only the rarest ones

[verbal abyss]

That's 2021

And I don't have a single bottle they are not sell them in Russia

[wild sapphire]

This flavor looks least likely to kill you compared to the other mountain dews

[verbal abyss]

Only cans in specific store

[wild sapphire]

Ironic

It says mystery flavor

[verbal abyss]

Probably yeah but its not in the best condition

[wild sapphire]

This isnt the bottle that is the color of the soda

[verbal abyss]

That's a classic one

[wild sapphire]

I feel like i would become slightly irradiated by drinking this

I am pretty sure this is carbonated food dye with the flavor of green

[verbal abyss]

I also got a "fruit quake" its a new year 2022 limited edition
This one in the worst condition you can imagine

[wild sapphire]

Fruit quake

Like fruit cake but an earthquake

[manic juniper]

Why don't you collect Georgian wine instead

[verbal abyss]

I ordered 3 of them but when i received my package those were bloated

[wild sapphire]

😔

[verbal abyss]

So had to bring them back and reorder

[verbal abyss]

🤔

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/fireworks-tbilisi-georgia-protest-people-gif-15935022883099118147

Terraria gameplay

[dapper laurel]

@verbal abyss Referendum today and I can't vote

[wild sapphire]

Lol what the devil

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[thorny steeple]

is this from georgia?

[wild sapphire]

Aww why now

[verbal abyss]

What referendum

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Why not?

[manic juniper]

Is it about citizenship

[dapper laurel]

Too young

[dapper laurel]

Workers' rights too, there are 5 cards

[wild sapphire]

Well just get older

[thorny steeple]

Alrighty

[manic juniper]

So you vote separately on each of them?

[wild sapphire]

I thought it would be something like you were a recognized enemy of the state or something cool

[verbal abyss]

[thorny steeple]

oh, i remember seeing this crazy gun that shoots fireworks

[dapper laurel]

Yes. If the referendum wins, then some laws introduced by previous governments that didn't protect workers will be abolished

[manic juniper]

Georgians know how to protest

[dapper laurel]

Then there is the one on citizenship, which is a similar mechanism

[thorny steeple]

So the workers lose their protection?

[manic juniper]

Over for Meloni

[thorny steeple]

Classic I thought this only happened in America not in bloody Europe

[dapper laurel]

I already know that the electoral abstentionism is too high and the referendum will not be valid

[dapper laurel]

What do you mean?

[wild sapphire]

What country is this Andos?

[verbal abyss]

Italy

[manic juniper]

Italy moment

[wild sapphire]

Mama mia

[thorny steeple]

Workers the stuff you guys have around workers is amazing mate

[verbal abyss]

Fr

[thorny steeple]

Very peaceful and no mafia in sight

[manic juniper]

Truly a porco Dio statement of all times

[dapper laurel]

Country of sun and sea 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻

[thorny steeple]

I thought Japan 🗾 for second

[dapper laurel]

Let's say yes, the problem is that the economy will not grow in this way

[thorny steeple]

Fr they want the Greek model then??

[manic juniper]

The current Greek model is working

Their economy is recovering fast

[dapper laurel]

They are just overprotected, companies will fail this way

[manic juniper]

If Italy gets the Greek model now it has the potential for an economic boom but this isn't going to happen

[thorny steeple]

Yeah nah in sweet Italia ofc that ain't happening

[dapper laurel]

This is due to a large period of stagnation before, it's similar to the post COVID 19 recovery

[thorny steeple]

True so how's the north/south division doing?

[manic juniper]

Greece is much more competent now, if Italy gets in a similarly bad situation with debt (something that will happen) then it has to adapt in the same manner

It will be positive in the long run

[dapper laurel]

South is improving, but the gap is still considerable

[manic juniper]

But Italy will be more devastated than it already is

[thorny steeple]

Yeah that's gonna take time or government intervention

[dapper laurel]

I agree, reforms are needed, and the little bit of free market we have left will make this work

[manic juniper]

As Big Monkey said many times (except those times when he says "Big Monkey"): Italians can't win.

[dapper laurel]

We should introduce major austerity measures, this will be the worst period, but its necessary

[thorny steeple]

@Let me make something clear I stand with the truth, not with blind sides. I’m a Muslim, and yes, I feel the pain of my Ummah when they’re oppressed, whether it’s in India, Palestine, Myanmar, China, or anywhere else. But that doesn’t mean I support wrong when it’s done by Muslims. Oppression is oppression no matter who does it, and no matter who suffers from it.
If any Muslim attacks innocent Hindus or burns their homes, I say clearly that’s wrong. Islam never allows that. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) taught us to protect our neighbors regardless of religion. But the problem is when people only highlight Muslim wrongdoings to justify systemic hate against the entire community. That’s what I stand against. You brought up incidents like in Murshidabad or Jessore. Yes, I’ve seen those. But the difference is this: when Muslims do wrong, we are the first to say it’s wrong. We don’t deny it. But when Muslims are lynched in India for eating beef, or when mosques are demolished, or when entire laws are made to make life harder for Muslims many stay silent or try to justify it. Why? As a Muslim, I believe justice has to be balanced. If you’re going to talk about Muslim crimes, then also be honest about what some extremist Hindutva groups are doing not just to Muslims, but to Christians, Dalits, and even Sikhs. Don’t tell me to focus only on Muslim countries. In the UAE where I was raised, minorities live freely including Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, even atheists. Go ask them how they’re treated. Compare that honestly with how minorities live in some parts of India. So if you truly stand for justice, stand for all victims Hindu, Muslim, Christian, or anyone else. Don’t expect me to be silent just because you’re uncomfortable with my truth. We are not asking for special treatment. We are asking for equal humanity.

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/ba-I5SPsvp8?si=C5ItgD6it-2GTazQ would the Danish model work on Italy?

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-confusion-gif-10824788

[thorny steeple]

@tepid marsh

[dapper laurel]

I'll have to let you know, but I don't think so btw

[wild sapphire]

Big Monkey is quite the political analyst as per usual

[thorny steeple]

Alright

[dapper laurel]

Sorry for my ignorance, but I don't understand what you're referring to

[manic juniper]

Violence is an inherently mammalian trait

[thorny steeple]

Same lol

[thorny steeple]

Then what! That the reptiles are better than Us!

[manic juniper]

Big Monkey, recognised for his popular quote "Big Monkey"

[wild sapphire]

I feel that “big monkey” is usually an accurate way of describing modern political going ons

[thorny steeple]

@tepid marsh u ask for equal humanity but in ur first msg u only mentioned Muslim this Muslim that only that Muslims are victims

And for ur kind information many south Indians western Eastern Indians call it out against the stuff problems Muslims go through
If u don't see those people media like the quint brut India the mint
Then it's not my fault ur so biased

@7.wta I'm honest hindutva is bad islamist are bad too all extremists are bad

It was you who in ur previous message only targeted Muslim as victims ur message was biased first see for urself!!

[dapper laurel]

What kind of monkey is this?

[thorny steeple]

@tepid marsh

[wild sapphire]

Big monkey

He’s big

[manic juniper]

It was a macaque in all likelihood

[wild sapphire]

Before he transcended

[manic juniper]

It looks so bad I can't even recognise the species

[wild sapphire]

Poor thing

[dapper laurel]

How did it get so fat?

[thorny steeple]

Well that's something

[wild sapphire]

Food probably

[thorny steeple]

Well that's something

[wild sapphire]

Overconsumption of Mountain Dew Voodoo 2022

[manic juniper]

Hate

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I don't think its bone structure can support that body weight for long

[manic juniper]

Monkeys are highly immoral and irrational, they feed off pure hate

[wild sapphire]

This is a new monkey fact

So it eats humans then

[manic juniper]

The original Big Monkey was, in fact, an ape. An orangutan to be precise, the last time she was spotted she fell from a swing on video

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@tepid marsh and lots of secular Indians call out BJP hindutva extremism

Tell me whivh muslim has called out against the islamist extremism in jessore or murshidabad??

U easily put an entire country on blame saying muslims are targeted only u were the one who tried spreading biased narrative

If u were honest u could have said Muslims Hindus both are victims of extremists but no u only said about muslims then when I called out ur biased hypocrisy mentioning two incidents ur calling me biased?
The utter hypocrisy!!

[manic juniper]

We don't know her whereabouts

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Reminds me of someone I saw online a while back

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Then they wouldn't had built civilization!

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https://tenor.com/view/gorlock-gorlockthedestroyer-jabba-the-hutt-pretty-girl-optimus-prime-gif-15021847607777839017

[wild sapphire]

Into the void

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This one

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lmao WELP

[manic juniper]

The is biggest ape

Don't know if it still classifies as ape

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Or ape 2.0

[dapper laurel]

To find her in the gifs I just had to write "Gorlock"

[wild sapphire]

Gorlock what the

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Yeah classic staple from the American Internet 🛜

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Is that what her parents called her when she was born

[manic juniper]

Finding her doesn't seem like a difficult task

[thorny steeple]

Easiest task ever then the teacher asked in the exam what does she eat lmao

[manic juniper]

Never forget what they took away from us

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The non avian dinosaurs got done dirty

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😔

[manic juniper]

"yes"

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Poor thing

She can’t be healthy in that state

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Literally passed nahh extra grilled on the Test

[wild sapphire]

I don’t believe in body shaming

[tepid marsh]

I appreciate that you’re being honest and since you asked for honesty, let me reply with full clarity. You accused me of being biased, but let me break this down properly.
1st Yes, I mentioned Muslims a lot because I was talking about the suffering my Ummah is facing. That doesn’t mean I think others don’t suffer. But if I, as a Muslim, don’t raise my voice for my community, who will? Just like you speak about Hindu victims I speak about Muslim ones. That’s not bias. That’s standing with my people in pain. You do the same. Let’s not pretend that’s wrong.

2nd You mentioned South Indians and others who speak up for Muslims. Good. I respect those voices. I never denied they exist. But I also know those voices are often drowned out or attacked in their own country. Journalists like Rana Ayyub, Mohammed Zubair, or even Ravish Kumar have faced harassment or FIRs for calling out injustice. So don’t tell me it’s all equal.

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But i dont believe in convincing people that they are happiest wallowing in unhealth

You should encourage and support them to better themselves

[tepid marsh]

3rd You said I only showed one side. Okay, let’s show all sides then
• In India, lynchings happened over beef suspicion documented cases like Junaid Khan (killed on a train), Akhlaq (killed in Dadri), and Tabrez Ansari (beaten and forced to chant slogans before dying).
• CAA/NRC policies triggered protests across the country not only Muslims, but many secular Indians called it discriminatory. Even UN officials expressed concern.
• Bulldozers used on Muslim homes without trial or court orders in places like Delhi and Madhya Pradesh. That’s collective punishment, not justice.
• Hate speeches by politicians including calls for genocide are widely circulated, but rarely punished. These are not fringe voices. They’re mainstream now.
• Now let’s be fair yes, some Muslims have done wrong too. I won’t deny it. I don’t support Islamist extremism, mob attacks, or violence against any innocent person Hindu or anyone else. Islam does not permit that. And if anyone does that in the name of Islam, they’re wrong.
But here’s the key difference In most Muslim majority countries like UAE or Qatar, Hindus live safely, build temples, and worship freely. You can go ask them. Now tell me can Muslims in India do the same in peace, without fear or hate? Why are Muslims afraid to do Qurbani? Why are hijabis targeted in colleges? Why are mosques being demolished and history being rewritten?

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Same

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America does this

[tepid marsh]

I don’t generalize Hindus. I criticize hate politics and extremist ideologies like Hindutva just like you criticize Islamists. That’s fair. Let’s both admit the truth Extremism is dangerous no matter where it comes from. But don’t twist my message into something it’s not. I never said all Hindus are wrong. I said injustice must be called out especially when it’s backed by state power.
So before calling me biased read my message again. I spoke with pain for Muslims, not hatred toward Hindus. If you really believe in truth and equal humanity then you should understand where I’m coming from.
I will always speak the truth not for attention, not for arguments but because silence against oppression is betrayal. You don’t have to agree with everything I say, but at least respect the right of others to speak their truth too.

[wild sapphire]

Okaay

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Yeah corporate is always behind it

[wild sapphire]

I dont think it is corporate in this case

It is group think

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Correcto

[wild sapphire]

Multiple times i have seen some celeb lose weight, crow about it, and then there is outcry over them daring to be happier with a skinnier body

Body shaming but for skinny people

I think being healthy is the goal

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Welcome to the Internet 2025

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People are so stupid

No welcome to the internet

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Topic??

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Lmao lack of Internet common courtesy

[wild sapphire]

I miss the forums

Idk i had more fun as a kid

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Never did lmao

[wild sapphire]

Lack of courtesy period

People act like baboons

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And jump gunning into topics with no knowledge

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Boredom

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Fair enough

[wild sapphire]

I wonder if Gorlock is still alive

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No clue 🧩

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Do you play video games John?

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Again u only mentioned specific incidents where Muslims are victims not one incident specific did u include where Hindus were victims lol jessore murshidabad Nagpur sandeshkali

If this is not bias then what is bias?

Let's say if I include

Utsav Mondal mob lynched in Bangladesh by radical extremists due to blasphemy accusations Infront of police

In sandeshkali the Muslim TMC leader saying radical stuff targeting non muslim women and doing se*sual stuff with them?

In murshidabad in name of protest burning down looting 113 Hindu homes killing 2 innocent Hindus too?

The aimim Muslim leader spread hatred too saying that if police was removed for 15 mins then they'll show to the Hindus their place as in violence

One Hindu family travelling accidentally hit an auto they apologized sincerely but a Muslim mob came ganging up threatening them

U simply mentioned 3-4 cases specifically since earlier targeting only where Muslim are victims not a mention that Hindus are victims of Muslim extremists then when I called u out for that mentioning some incidents u ask me to condemn equally???? When u urself didn't condemn equally??

What a hypocrisy!

Then now again u mentioned only specific incidents targeting muslim as victim and when it came to Hindu u only said u condemn extremism and are now whitewashing it with other muslim countries good treatment

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Yeah

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Which ones may I ask?

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According to ur first u only mentioning incidents where muslim are in pain in India to create image that only muslim are in pain

Is not bias?
But when I call out the suffering of my people in Bengal murshidabad then are u forgetting that it was u @tepid marsh who was telling me to condemn equally????

U don't condemn equally urself and u expect others to do so??

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Depends on Android is unciv, age of history, social democracy, and plague inc, on PC it's browser games like Chip making/political to alt history games and sometimes the original civilization one and raid shadow legends PC version.

[manic juniper]

Social democracy? What is that

[wild sapphire]

Yes i was wondering too lol

[manic juniper]

Did they make a Nordic politics simulator

[wild sapphire]

Also you might be the first raid shadow legends player ive met in the wild

[manic juniper]

If yes it must be quite boring

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https://red-autumn.itch.io/petrograd-1917

https://red-autumn.itch.io/social-democracy

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And as per freedom of speech calling out please look at ur own country
And kindly since u were going on and on about that problem of Muslim aren't talked about

Now I mentioned several Indians who do talk

Now
@7.wta#0000 it's your turn kindly mention me some Bangladeshi Muslims famous like ravish Kumar dhruv rathee someone like that who have called out the islamist extremism ?

[wild sapphire]

You are trying to stop the nazis from gaining power

[manic juniper]

Ok it's not a boring game I guess

[wild sapphire]

This is a potentially compelling premise

[thorny steeple]

Yeah