🧠｜serious-chat

[prisma cipher]

Blocked

[verbal abyss]

noooooo

[wild sapphire]

Neyro

Hey

[manic juniper]

It's like taking a model seriously, there are always nuances and differences and pretty much no instance is identical to the model

[dapper laurel]

Diva

[thorny steeple]

in the actual context, that is correct. the capitalist forces are too powerful to produce a sustainable (and devoid of bloodshed) forced/vanguardist revolution

[prisma cipher]

I mean I can read anything communists stuff, but not stupid theory.

[wild sapphire]

You must be exhausted neyro

[verbal abyss]

What non-existent ideology has to do with theory

[wild sapphire]

I am still blocked

[dapper laurel]

Swan wasn't entirely wrong though. You don't have to argue, but to find a middle ground instead

[wild sapphire]

Neyro isn’t here to argue

[verbal abyss]

Because personalities themselves build future, not society

[manic juniper]

True

[thorny steeple]

50%

[manic juniper]

Iceland could achieve communism

[wild sapphire]

How would that be

[thorny steeple]

each individual is mostly a result of its surroundings

[manic juniper]

They would be able to

[wild sapphire]

Due to general disposition of the individual?

[wild sapphire]

Elaborate?

[manic juniper]

Most people would allow it

[verbal abyss]

And be nuked

[thorny steeple]

or embargoed

[manic juniper]

By whom, we all love Iceland (except UK)

[thorny steeple]

it would be a Cuba 2

[verbal abyss]

By me

[manic juniper]

Deserved I guess

[dapper laurel]

Iceland is not that relevant, it's also quite isolated

[verbal abyss]

Absolutely

[manic juniper]

Deserved for eating fermented endangered sharks

[verbal abyss]

What does it mean

[prisma cipher]

he says obvious things. if we discuss such things as pure capitalism or pure communism, i am ready to block everyone who discusses it.

[wild sapphire]

It means to further explain the nuances and details of your position so I can understand it better

[dapper laurel]

But why block?

They won't hurt you

[wild sapphire]

He is not here to debate

[dapper laurel]

At least I hope so

[wild sapphire]

He makes no pretense of wanting to hear other people’s opinions

He is carefully curating his experience

Power to him I suppose

[thorny steeple]

pure communism is a topic overcome 150 years ago, that only rightoids bring it to distort scientific socialism

[verbal abyss]

Everything world has was made by individualists or a bunch of individualists

[wild sapphire]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Have you ever heard of emulators

[dapper laurel]

The only pure political form that is actually applicable on a small scale is anarcho-primitivism btw

[manic juniper]

Or open source software

[verbal abyss]

Communism only works on robots i guess

[verbal abyss]

Yes ?

[wild sapphire]

But i think you cannot ignore the individual’s role in the social collective

[manic juniper]

That's the opposite of what you described

[thorny steeple]

and the social collective role on the individual

[wild sapphire]

Yes

[manic juniper]

GitHub's whole idea is against individualism or closed source

Anyone can make their contribution or fork of something

[wild sapphire]

Society is the collective weight of agreement being brought to bear on the individual

[prisma cipher]

USSR is a communist country. Is it possible to find signs that it is not a communist country? Yes. Is it possible to find signs that it is a capitalist country? Yes, if you want to do this picking, I do not participate in this. Just an unnecessary conversation. Fake theories or delusions not interesting and stupid

[wild sapphire]

Neeeyrrrooooo

[manic juniper]

USSR sucked which isn't exclusive to either of those

[prisma cipher]

Because I want to

[thorny steeple]

"USSR was a communist country, even though there are proofs it was capitalistic until its collapse, I don't care"

[dapper laurel]

Let him cook

[wild sapphire]

[dapper laurel]

I wanna read what he says

[wild sapphire]

Microwaves a burrito wrapped in aluminum

No yes me too

I like neyro

I was just saying his name lol

[verbal abyss]

So?

[manic juniper]

What you said isn't correct

[dapper laurel]

He's about to say something

[manic juniper]

Plenty of people contribute for no exclusively egoistic reasons

[wild sapphire]

I am waiting with great anticipation

Babe wake up neyro is about to post a short essay

Oh no

NO DONT DO THIS TO ME

Oh he’s still going

[prisma cipher]

If he say obviously weird stuff about USSR it mean at basic level his suggestion will be the same about any topic. So I don't expect any adequate suggestions from him, doesn't matter he talk about Russian or jewish people or any stuff

[dapper laurel]

Calm down calm down, the message is about to drop

[verbal abyss]

Why you think it works in global idea of state not only such communistic things

[prisma cipher]

So preventive block

[verbal abyss]

Working for yourself is not egoistic

[manic juniper]

I never said it works anywhere, I just said it's not black and white or the sole modality

[verbal abyss]

Thats a basic human right

[manic juniper]

It's not, communism isn't against this either

[dapper laurel]

But if you think that's the case, why don't you actually tell him what could be improved?

[wild sapphire]

Neyro hates me still 😔

He is a challenging muse to please

I must aspire to be better in my prosaic capabilities

[verbal abyss]

But you just said about egoism

[dapper laurel]

But working for yourself leads to consequences that communism is against

[thorny steeple]

in fact, capitalism is

[manic juniper]

Yes, because I didn't criticise your stance on communism, just that statement

[thorny steeple]

you're forced to work to enrich some random investor

that doesn't even got to know how does such production or service works

[dapper laurel]

This is a misconception

[verbal abyss]

And whoever can become this random investor

[manic juniper]

It's about owning the value you produce and the means you used to make said production

This is egoistic and not against communism

[verbal abyss]

Okay i should put word almost in that statement
Still most things were made by individualists or a bunch of individualists

[manic juniper]

Do we know this for sure?

[thorny steeple]

80% are inherented fortunes

if not more

[manic juniper]

We don't know who made the wheel for example, or who discovered fire

[verbal abyss]

Not even

[thorny steeple]

from families that started its worth net by colonial coercion

[dapper laurel]

True capitalism rewards meritocracy, if you are an efficient worker, you will be rewarded in a perfect capitalism and free market. Or, if you are inventive or have a particularly innovative idea, you could get rich on your own, without needing other people

[verbal abyss]

What about known discovers

[wild sapphire]

I am not sure the flaw in stating that everything was made by an individual, I think I am being too technical about it

[thorny steeple]

true capitalism doesn't exist beyond vulgar idealism

[wild sapphire]

I recognize individuals can work in teams to accomplish tasks

[manic juniper]

Not necessarily, it rewards your chief more than anything else

[wild sapphire]

Martini’s favorite topic

[dapper laurel]

What do you mean by value?

[turbid dome]

True capitalism may reward some people based on the merit of how good they are at managing practical slaves, who have no future or fortune

[manic juniper]

He said individualists or group of individualists, even if you think that an individualist is a synonym of individual then do you also think that a group of something is... Individualist? How?

[wild sapphire]

I wonder if Neyro will like Martini

[turbid dome]

Idk let me check comment history

[manic juniper]

No because he's not pro-Russian

[wild sapphire]

Lol oh

[manic juniper]

Martini's destiny lies in the block list

[verbal abyss]

Please show me statistics that proves you right

[wild sapphire]

Alas

[turbid dome]

USSR is communist 😭😂

[wild sapphire]

The oracle has spoken

[manic juniper]

It's just a matter of how long it will take

[verbal abyss]

According to any sources most rich people are self made, especially men

[turbid dome]

Wdym

[wild sapphire]

Neyro’s

[turbid dome]

Yeah probably

[prisma cipher]

if you had talked to me 5 years ago I would have done as you say. now I don't care. when I argue with someone I do it not because I want explain something him, but to show other people who would read it, that there is different opinion. I don't want it be like, for example, Russia is the spawn of evil and no one to dispute it.

[wild sapphire]

Russia isn’t the spawn of evil

[manic juniper]

That's something I have no idea about, because I didn't study it. But to communists there is an intrinsic value to anything meanwhile capitalists only care about perceived value

[wild sapphire]

Neyro you can compartmentalize things you know

You can condemn some of Putin’s actions without condemning all

Or even without condemning all of Russia

[thorny steeple]

Inherited Wealth Among Billionaires: According to Oxfam's 2025 report Takers Not Makers, 60% of billionaire wealth originates from inheritance, cronyism, or monopoly power. Notably, in 2023, for the first time, more new billionaires emerged through inheritance than entrepreneurship.

The Global South continues to transfer wealth to the Global North at a staggering rate of $30 million per hour, primarily benefiting the richest 1%
https://www.oxfam.org/en/takers-not-makers-unjust-poverty-and-unearned-wealth-colonialism?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[manic juniper]

It's why NFTs are a thing

[wild sapphire]

There is nuance and complexity in almost everything, exceptions

[turbid dome]

Idk about this.

The “self made” bill gates had parents who worked for IBM as executives I believe and so he had more access to computers than anyone else in his time.

Even “self made” billionaires have huge advantages

[wild sapphire]

Usually

[manic juniper]

It's literally a monkey pic stored on a server but it's worthy 1 ratchetillion Euros

[wild sapphire]

I wonder how much your big monkey is worth

Hold on to that, i am sure it will appreciate in value

Pretty sure it’s a collectible

[manic juniper]

I know as much about communism and capitalism as I know about facetotectans

Which is pretty much nothing

[thorny steeple]

faceto what

[manic juniper]

Or economy in general, or politics

[turbid dome]

Doubt

[wild sapphire]

Yeah i dont even know what a facetotecan is

[turbid dome]

A more factual Texan

[manic juniper]

Me neither

[wild sapphire]

Oh that makes sense

[manic juniper]

I once read a 20+ pages article on them

Maybe they released more on them but I have to check those out too

[dapper laurel]

In true capitalism and free market no one is a slave to anyone, no one forces you to submit to an employer and no one or to become the employer. You are simply relying on a pseudo-capitalist system in which the state oppresses those who provide jobs or those who create jobs. Human beings, in modern circumstances and for simple morality, would never oppress others, if at least there were ideal (and not utopian) conditions for this to happen. If the state were small and didn't interfere in the affairs of individuals, there would be the conditions for a perfect free market.
You should not think of fat men, with cigars, wearing monocles who get rich on the backs of others when you hear the word "capitalism"

[verbal abyss]

Still less than you were screaming about and not including millionares

[thorny steeple]

Elon Musk's family is another example of colonial bourgeois, enriched by cobalt and other mining explorations

[verbal abyss]

Actually 3 sources telling different things

It requires deeper researches I can't agree or disagree yet

[dapper laurel]

Too much metaphysical stuff, I can't debate the vague. Another Communist L

[thorny steeple]

millionaires are the least of the problems of the capitalist mode of production

[manic juniper]

The Sámi's wealth was determined by reindeers

[eager geyser]

whats so serious

[manic juniper]

The woman with the most reindeers was nicknamed Rika Maja, rich Maja

[wild sapphire]

Lol i knew it

[turbid dome]

This only works if you change the definition of capitalism, and then ignore the consequences of a state not interfering in a market with limited money.

Eventually some people will have everything and everyone else will beg for it.

What you describe sounds most similar to the suicide cult of anarcho-capitalism

[manic juniper]

I dislike anything economy

[wild sapphire]

You are always talking about politics and economics

[manic juniper]

I just want to buy the stuff that I like

[wild sapphire]

Okay no not true

[manic juniper]

When

[wild sapphire]

I mean when you do, you always sound like you know what you are talking about

[manic juniper]

I only talk about Ukraine for personal reasons

I don't know anything besides that one

[turbid dome]

Gazpromistan

[dapper laurel]

But, brother, 5 years ago you were really doing the right thing. In this way the society and the people who live around you grow, and it could be an opportunity for you to grow too. Maybe think about it

[wild sapphire]

Sorry this came out wrong, totally unfactual

[manic juniper]

It is said that he will stop accusing one of these days

[dapper laurel]

So what is the definition of capitalism according to you?

[wild sapphire]

We are just meant to be opps forever

[manic juniper]

kellä keččinä kupajau, še kylyn löytäy

[wild sapphire]

Yeah or no, depending on what colloquial idiom you said

[manic juniper]

Se on ohi.

[turbid dome]

Economic + Political system where private ownership of production is controlled for profit

[wild sapphire]

Also maybe

[dapper laurel]

You could do that in a truly free market

[manic juniper]

If communism was real it'd be much better tho, I could make the games that I like

And I could make any amount of them

[verbal abyss]

Id say opposite tbh

[dapper laurel]

And why is it not compatible with what I say, in your opinion?

[verbal abyss]

Ukraine was the only thing where i felt i know more

[turbid dome]

If a free market is one with no constraints, it will collapse.

[manic juniper]

I didn't say I know more than others or you, just that I know more than the rest

[prisma cipher]

No

[manic juniper]

I know nothing about Libya or Kalinistan

[verbal abyss]

That's why i said the only
Because in other topics you were talking more interesting things

[dapper laurel]

Why?

[turbid dome]

Because private ownership of means of production can only lead to wealth concentration and therefore strict hierarchy where those are forced to obey “superiors”

[verbal abyss]

You can read new everyday its not a problem

[manic juniper]

Politics is interesting

[thorny steeple]

free market vs real market on who will exhaust the global chain of production first

[manic juniper]

Uninteresting I mean

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[manic juniper]

The phone has a different opinion, I will take care of this personally

[manic juniper]

I read news about dinosaurs

[thorny steeple]

Lybia had a cool minimalistic flag

[feral river]

why don't we rip it off, make every country dependent on themselves if they can't produce food then starve until they can do that

[verbal abyss]

Hope those are extremely relevant

[wild sapphire]

Minecraft at last

[manic juniper]

I subscribe to whatever ideology that is

[wild sapphire]

Here to inject some much needed rationality into the discourse

[verbal abyss]

Live about dinosaurs

[thorny steeple]

this is the serious chat

[wild sapphire]

@feral river any headway into weaponizing horses as combat cyborgs

[true lark]

Nooo

[verbal abyss]

Buy the new one

[turbid dome]

Because a market with no constraints will be vulnerable to error, it will eventually be that oligarchs will hold all the power and with all the power they will continue to gamble on their stocks until they throw humanity into a depression

[true lark]

Don't start that again

[turbid dome]

Dinocommunism

[dapper laurel]

The main problem is that you think that wealth (which can be embodied in the means of production or otherwise) is limited and cannot be produced in any way. You are driven by that primal inferiority complex that makes you say "he has this thing, he is powerful, why am I not? Life is so unfair". Your way of remedying this? Oppress the other, deprive him of his means, his wealth, to redistribute them, that all

[true lark]

I am fine talking about horses just normally but please no more cyber mutations bs

[verbal abyss]

Dinocapitalism*

[wild sapphire]

This is serious chat

[manic juniper]

Phones are too overpriced, I hate wasting money on them as long as they work

[true lark]

And?

[verbal abyss]

Dinosaurs are not look like communists in its definition they kill each others

[manic juniper]

There is no evidence of dinosaurs being capitalist

[verbal abyss]

Yeah but communist too

[thorny steeple]

that indicates you have no knowledge of scientific socialism. It's not about redistribuiting wealth at all

[manic juniper]

That's normal, it's their way of manifesting power on a spiritual and physical level

[verbal abyss]

Its just dinosaurism

[wild sapphire]

Minecraft talking about the combat benefits of weaponizing horses as cyborgs is serious chat

[true lark]

Specific dinosaur species might have practically practiced communism

[manic juniper]

There is, a study about parrot proved they are mostly egalitarians or communists

[feral river]

is that not serious enough to rip the fuck off by tariffs which is happening right now ?

[manic juniper]

We call it saurianism, it includes all reptiles

You can join it if you wish

It's part of Project Sauropsidia

[verbal abyss]

Man it was supposed to be joke they don't even care about none of those political shit

[feral river]

if we stop export these shit and americans also raise tariffs on these losers, they will starve to death

[wild sapphire]

And so it begins

[thorny steeple]

that's a sad situation we are in know

[verbal abyss]

Didn't care*

[feral river]

that's the reality

[true lark]

Oh, well it's serious chat so I presumed you were serious

[manic juniper]

It is said that mammals learned and corrupted economy and politics from archosaurs

[verbal abyss]

Seriously dinosaurs together weren't communistic

[wild sapphire]

Your first mistake

[dapper laurel]

And this is exactly where you are wrong, the oligarchs will not be able to maintain power for a long time, anyone can get rich, there may be mobile social classes, but with this consolidated system there cannot be huge gaps in wealth

[manic juniper]

Yet another instance and proof of mammals ruining something that worked perfectly

[verbal abyss]

What should i do

Any books?

[dapper laurel]

So what is it?

[manic juniper]

Praise reptiles and spread propaganda and positive disinformation on them

[wild sapphire]

Positive disinformation

[feral river]

don't like that idea anymore too expensive

[true lark]

No, because at that point they will fall / the currency they hold will become useful, its self-regulating

[verbal abyss]

Fuck yall glory to reptiles

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[true lark]

It's like lions and gazelles in a nature reserve

[wild sapphire]

This makes me laugh now

Character arc

[manic juniper]

The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs or Dinosaurs: How They Evolved and How They Lived

[turbid dome]

It objectively is. We have limited resources on the planet and are dealing with climate change. Infinite production will kill all of us, hence the suicide cult aspect.

“Why am I not?”

Well I don’t have my child laborers in the Congo working hard enough.

You can only hold this view if you ignore all the millions of slaves and poorly paid laborers in poverty.

My way of remedying this? Create a system to where nobody uses child laborers in the Congo.

Take the people who benefit from child labor in the Congo and hold them as criminals (it is criminal). Give their assets to those they harmed as reparations.

[manic juniper]

+66 squama points

[true lark]

The lions will eat the gazelles, making their population shrink, when it shrinks the lions die out, then the gazelle population flourishes, after which the lions flourish, and repeat the cycle

[verbal abyss]

Interesting

[thorny steeple]

all the mode of production possible being at labor administration (which is a outdated analysis btw), it would still imply of some people having more than others

[true lark]

That's what happebs

[turbid dome]

Oligarchs can use the power to constrain the social classes, you treat it as if there is no agency, no inheritance

[manic juniper]

Thing is it's different with dinosaurs, they kill each other but this improves the world

[wild sapphire]

Can you exchange these for material goods or benefits in Sauropsidia

[manic juniper]

They boost productivity and diversity

[turbid dome]

?

[manic juniper]

They are purely spiritual, but since mammals lack a soul no shop account is present and they can't be accessed

[wild sapphire]

Lol okay rip off

[manic juniper]

The good ending, mammals cannot corrupt and twist the system

[turbid dome]

Yes except those gazelles you described are people being mass murdered. If the market relies on people being killed in mass (which it does) then I think it should change

[manic juniper]

Reptiles did good as always

I legit can't understand how people can deny or be naive about all of their achievements, or even just a fraction of them

Not only this but the world could easily be improved if we simply copied them

[true lark]

I was just disproving your specific argument, though the proper human equivalent of mass killing gazelles would be exploiting people for Labour, not killing them

[manic juniper]

Not necessarily to behave in the same way but attempting it is enough

[wild sapphire]

I feel learning how to lick my eyeball could have certain benefits

[turbid dome]

Yup, though my argument is the inevitable collapse and rebuilding is bad. That doesn’t have to exist

[manic juniper]

Why, the gecko in your pfp, for how corrupted it is, doesn't do it

[turbid dome]

You didn’t disprove my argument, you added to it

[manic juniper]

Reptiles don't do anything unless it's needed

[dapper laurel]

Here too you are wrong, my friend, if you go and look at the statistics, both in Western countries and in developing countries, wealth has always increased over the years, there wasn't a transfer of wealth, except in some cases.

As for slaves in third world countries, well, those poor people often live in authoritarian regimes, with strong economic regulation, for that:

-Workers often cannot do independent entrepreneurship
-Employers, not having any kind of freedom in producing or deciding how to run their things, unload this burden onto workers, who suffer even more

It is not that hard, Martini

[true lark]

Personally I think it's not the best, but better than other easily achievable options

[wild sapphire]

My phone died and yes I knew you would see that lol but no i mean as a human in general

Imagine the tactical benefits that come with being able to lick your own eyeball

[verbal abyss]

I acknowledge that i was wrong
Saurianism is better than your fake ideologies

[manic juniper]

There are none

It's why not all reptiles do it

[wild sapphire]

I am not so sure- imagine someone decides to take you aside to talk about something really boring or unpleasant- suddenly out of nowhere, lick

Conversation comes to a full stop

[thorny steeple]

there wans't a transfer of wealth
it necessarily has a transfer of 'wealth'. Read Marx

[wild sapphire]

Now they are silent frozen in shock or admiration they cant say

Now it’s all about your eyeball

[true lark]

It wouldn't come to a stop if its a normal ability though

[wild sapphire]

Do you act offended at their attention and capture the moral high ground

Or do you laugh it off and divert the conversation away from the boring topic

Who cares the battle is won, you decide the terms of surrender now

[wild sapphire]

You would need to hold it in reserve

[manic juniper]

As always, reptiles teach about tolerance and diversity

[wild sapphire]

For special occasions

[wild sapphire]

Yeah and also this wow

[manic juniper]

It's true and undeniable that archosaurs improved our world

[wild sapphire]

Licking your own eyeball would make the world a better place

[turbid dome]

This doesn’t address climate change or the limited resources problem.

Wealth increases but it cannot forever. It has been gained in these countries you speak of from exploitation of the third world.

As for slaves in third world countries, the government is often too weak, unable to kick out foreign interests.

But your beloved free market has condensed wealth into the hands of a few, who realize they can take advantage of those most desperate by giving them meager scraps, and so they take advantage of both the people of Africa and Asia and their countries. You’re watching the free market at work. There’s a reason the slaves and laborers in Africa mine to make your iPhone cheaper and not for their own benefit or that of their country.

[true lark]

No but like, if every person could do that it wouldn't bring the conversation to a stop

[wild sapphire]

I want to be able to do it

I didnt say i want everyone else to be able to do it

Can you imagine everyone licking their eyeballs all the time

[true lark]

That's called reptiles

[wild sapphire]

Yeah

It’s all good and well when they do it

Nothing licks an eyeball like a reptile does it

They’ve mastered the art

They’ve cornered the market on eyeball licking

And may i say, more power to them

But i want that power for myself you see

[thorny steeple]

hey

[wild sapphire]

Imagine the social depths i could climb to with the ability to lick my own eyeball

I would be the manager of a mcdonalds in six years flat

Easy, you just watch

[turbid dome]

Might pay better than public school teacher

[wild sapphire]

Good grief

Being able to lick my own eyeball

I would run the school

[turbid dome]

I’m not kidding that a public charter school in my area I used to go to, being a full time cashier at McDonald’s was more profitable for a year, the only positive for teachers was summer break

[wild sapphire]

Yes schools pay beans

Being a teacher is really an ideological position

[turbid dome]

Yeah idk how anyone does it

Pay raise needed asap

[wild sapphire]

The system needs to be reformatted

[dapper laurel]

With technological progress there will always be new resources to exploit, in the Middle Ages it was certainly not known what would be discovered as the years went by.

However, you should not only think of material resources as the only source of wealth, the tertiary sector is based on the production of services, which do not necessarily have to be linked to resources to exploit, it's just a shade of what can be. The future of the economy is definitely that, the sooner we stop wanting to take something away from others, the sooner society will move forward.

As I have always said in this conversation: NO the wealthy, the rich will not take advantage of the economically weaker in an absolute free market, as human beings we are not born with the goal of oppressing others. Conversely, in a regulated market, entrepreneurs will try to find a way to circumvent the system or pass the burden on to workers.

We cannot always reason with the logic that pleases the uneducated and relatively immature populace

[turbid dome]

Teach Jineology like rojava

[wild sapphire]

Lick

[dapper laurel]

Where are you from? @turbid dome

[wild sapphire]

Jk jk

Continue you two have fun

[manic juniper]

The tertiary sector needs a lot of resources too, Microsoft is installing those servers underwater

They need the materials to build and expand that infrastructure, even if it's based on speculative bullshit like AI or cryptocurrencies

They exist physically and it requires resources

[wild sapphire]

@turbid dome i told you you would fit in didnt i

[dapper laurel]

It will never be as intensive as other sectors

[manic juniper]

It will, just give it time. Not nearly as bad as oil and gas but it's already pretty bad, the materials and elements they need aren't exactly clean to extract

[turbid dome]

There’s still a limit to the resources, how much of the globe do we have to destroy before we collectively realize this?

Even service is a sector related to resources. Farming is important for food service as an example.

Agreed, once we stop having a system which allows others to take from others to serve themselves society can move forward, eat the rich.

And the entire reason they’re trying to get around regulations is to exploit others. Because that is what the system requires. Any system which relies on wealth, the wealth will inevitably concentrate.

[dapper laurel]

But won't people think intelligently and try to find ways to be more productive using the least amount of resources?

[turbid dome]

Divided Cantons of oligarchs

[turbid dome]

They’ll figure out the most profitable thing

[turbid dome]

Yup

[manic juniper]

They will find a way to give a product that barely meets quality standards and uses the least amount of resources to produce, but they will produce as many as possible to replace the faulty ones and sell more of them

Already happening with plenty of products

[turbid dome]

Well in a free market there wouldn’t really be quality standards

[turbid dome]

At least not ones not defined by the company

[turbid dome]

Türkiye doesn’t even get to appear even though Thrace is in the Balkans

[wild sapphire]

A rather impressive collection

[manic juniper]

Arab countries not included

[turbid dome]

Turks are going to be triggered

[wild sapphire]

Do you have any holofoils

Or first editions

[manic juniper]

Turks here are chill, at least the ones on this channel

Angry Turks are only temporary guests or they don't know this channel exists

[turbid dome]

Ceyda-coded?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[dapper laurel]

The fact is that wealth does not depend only on natural resources, it is simply a nuance of them.True wealth is human ingenuity and we all have it. That said, material resources are not infinite, but sooner or later they will run out for everyone, in all the realities that we can propose, it's only human ingenuity that makes the difference.
Then, usually, when a resource becomes scarce, its prices rise, which leads to less consumption and greater balance.

In essence, what makes the difference is human ingenuity, which, even in the shittiest situations, can find an alternative

[turbid dome]

Please explain to me how human ingenuity will make a functioning economy when climate change is killing us all and we barely have any resources remaining

[manic juniper]

It will

It's not a positive outcome but it will

[turbid dome]

Yeah I am implying a positive outcome

lol

[manic juniper]

And if it fails at it perhaps that's better

[dapper laurel]

It will, also because what you describe is inevitable

[manic juniper]

It will kickstart a second Mesozoic

Everything the mammals are doing seems to ultimately lead to that

[wild sapphire]

In their failure, the bones of humanity will provide the means of ascendance for reptilian kind

[turbid dome]

How?

Also if it’s inevitable seems like we should slow down and try and find some technology to help us repurpose our resources. Seems like they might be useful.

Death is inevitable, let’s go full speed ahead does not sound appealing

[dapper laurel]

So you gave yourself an answer

[turbid dome]

Well, if we don’t manage to wipe out reptiles through environmental destruction first

[turbid dome]

No?

[manic juniper]

It's impossible

[manic juniper]

Even if we tried to we will never manage that

[turbid dome]

Sure but in great enough number it’s certainly possible to irreversibly change them. Nuclear war as an example

[manic juniper]

If most die out other animals don't have the means to fill the same niches as reptiles or mammals as it is, they will restore the order again

[wild sapphire]

It will be the eyeball lick felt across the earth

[manic juniper]

They won against worse chances

[wild sapphire]

The final lickening

[dapper laurel]

Then I don't know, brother, you said "climate change" but the climate always changes. If instead you refer to the climate crisis, here too, the optimal free market can help

[turbid dome]

Sure

[manic juniper]

It's sad that diversity will be destroyed and they will suffer individually

Hopefully it's worth it on the long run

[turbid dome]

Yes, I’m referring to manmade climate change.
How will the free market help? By destroying the planet for profit that way there’s nothing left to change?

[prisma cipher]

Unblocked

[wild sapphire]

EYEBALL LICK WORKS EVERYTIME

THANK YOU NEYRO

[manic juniper]

It's not licking the eyeball

[prisma cipher]

Sure

[manic juniper]

It's trying to remove the shed skin

[prisma cipher]

No problem

[turbid dome]

That’s why dinocommunism is better

[wild sapphire]

Yeah i see it on its nose but it touched its eyeball with its tongue

So i count it on a technicality

[manic juniper]

No, reptiles don't work like this

This is how mammals operate

[wild sapphire]

Picky picky fine here

Now that is an eyeball lick of i ever saw one

And i have seen one

[manic juniper]

Yes, that gecko intended to, it's completely different from a leopard gecko

[wild sapphire]

Because that is an eyeball lick

[wild sapphire]

Yes i know the leopard gecko has no need to lick eyeballs because it can blink

[manic juniper]

Leopard geckos have movable eyelids

[thorny steeple]

is there anyone from Palestine?

[wild sapphire]

I was lucky to find that accidental one

[dapper laurel]

Same reasoning I made before: current employers are oppressed by excessive regulations, to continue to earn they must find the cheapest way to do it and BOOM, goodbye to renewable energy sources (usually more expensive).

You don't have to see humanity as a blindfolded donkey, the free market adapts to the needs of humanity and if the main need is survival (rich and poor included) then it will go in that direction 🙂

Can I send you a friend request? @turbid dome

[wild sapphire]

This is promising

[manic juniper]

They're in #💭｜general

[manic juniper]

No

That's not from Palestine

[thorny steeple]

dont share your pictures

[manic juniper]

Tarentola is from Palestine

[wild sapphire]

I was doing the strat

[wild sapphire]

Sheesh here

[manic juniper]

No

That's Tarentola mauritanica, it's not in Palestine

[wild sapphire]

😐

[turbid dome]

How do the regulations cause exploitation of the workers? The regulations prevent that.

Renewable energy sources are better than no renewable when it comes to climate change, I would argue even that them being more expensive doesn’t matter as profit should not be the priority, but people and our environment should.

And markets are controlled by those with power over them, in a free market system those with all the wealth control the market and direct it how they wish, which is often more profit and power to themselves

[turbid dome]

Also you can send a request

[olive fractal]

both "true" communism and the "optimal" free market are utopias. It's like arguing what's cooler, a leprechaun or a unicorn

[wild sapphire]

Wait a second

[manic juniper]

He baited him

False flag attack

[wild sapphire]

Tarentola annularis is the palestinian model right

[turbid dome]

Live on Info wars:

[manic juniper]

It's not

[wild sapphire]

Annularis, mauritanica

What is the palestinian version

There are so many

This is why I hate buying christmas presents, just give them the money and let them act surprised

[prisma cipher]

I like giving presents

[wild sapphire]

Are you sure it’s not annularis

Oh me too, yes i love it

But i prefer thoughtful ones to forced ones

[prisma cipher]

Before I hate it. I'm getting old

[wild sapphire]

Like, if i identify something you really want and appreciate, then i want to give it to you at the moment of maximum impact

On christmas, it is sort of a forced ritual

[manic juniper]

It's invasive

[wild sapphire]

People expect you to guess what they dont have or actually want

Its supposed to be a surprise

Now if you are fortunate you know them well enough to guess what they will enjoy

But distant relations?

[prisma cipher]

It just a present I don't make it like it supposed to be surprise. Just nice thing.

[wild sapphire]

I would rather surprise you with the thing you told me you want or need when it will matter

More meaningful i figure

[turbid dome]

Simple solution: don’t give gifts

[manic juniper]

Exactly

[wild sapphire]

I like gift giving

I am not complaining about that part

[manic juniper]

Ask and you shall receive

[wild sapphire]

Its the obtuse nature of the holiday

[prisma cipher]

Or don't have friends

[turbid dome]

That too

[prisma cipher]

[feral river]

there's nobody from a state doesn't exist

[manic juniper]

This is what parrots said, don't ask and receive

Because reptiles are kind

[dapper laurel]

Because the regulations try to favor the worker, but at the same time antagonize him to those who offer work.

Simply put, those who offer work are unable to earn enough due to regulations, which often has an impact on the workers themselves (e.g. the introduction of a minimum wage could increase the hours of work, this harms who works and what he earns is not enough for what he worked for)

So moving on to other things. If we give full freedom to entrepreneurs, they will be able to guarantee good conditions for those who work in the long term. Those who are not satisfied, however, can always open their own business; this is the greatness of the truly free market.

Another thing, please, don't call me an anarcho capitalist, I'm more of a voluntarist, and in a voluntarism no one can be truly unhappy.

That said, I enjoyed our conversation, I'm about to send a friend request

[feral river]

you are talking like is there anyone from the Nazi Germany ?

[manic juniper]

Unfair, we have someone living in Australia here

[wild sapphire]

And now back to regularly scheduled programming

[manic juniper]

Not all imaginary countries are fully imaginary

[wild sapphire]

My favorite gifts are the ones that are personal to the person who gave it

Like a book they used or a hat they wore or something

If i am receiving a gift from someone i love i want to have something that makes me feel close to that person

But i also like nerd stuff lol

[thorny steeple]

nobody asked from an opressor.

[wild sapphire]

And money is very personal lool

[wild sapphire]

Minecraft is a nice fellow

Sort of

[thorny steeple]

where are your lizards now?😅

[thorny steeple]

[feral river]

not under the guns, so they are not living there

if they don't have their legal documents they are illegals

[wild sapphire]

Miiinecraaaft

[feral river]

and they will be deported very swiftly

[wild sapphire]

Minecraft is something of a well known dictator with a legacy of conquest in the game he named himself after

[wild sapphire]

When he talks about other countries I imagine he is referring to other Minecraft servers he has razed to the ground

[feral river]

I'm not a dictator, I'm the eternal sun of people, the ultimate supreme leader

[thorny steeple]

i never asked nor am i interested to know about him @wild sapphire

[wild sapphire]

Yes true

[wild sapphire]

He is the de facto supreme leader of serious chat

[dapper laurel]

Hail Minecraft

[wild sapphire]

He might be the only one you need to know here

[dapper laurel]

We actually recognized him as such

[thorny steeple]

trust me i dont feel it

[wild sapphire]

They tried to exile him like Napoleon but he returned

[dapper laurel]

So show some respect 😤

[wild sapphire]

OH BOY STAR WARS TIME

[thorny steeple]

anyways.good day

[wild sapphire]

sorry jane i must go

Dont forget to lick your eyeball

[blissful gale]

DM please

[turbid dome]

Why

[blissful gale]

I have a good news for you

[prisma cipher]

Who is that

[turbid dome]

Tell me here

[feral river]

LMAO that got me but also his spirit inspired a lot of people

[wild sapphire]

They love him

Half the streets in Paris are named after him and the other half is DeGaul

Dont use a gps to find degaul street

[dapper laurel]

German Chancellor (Bundeskanzler), Friedrich Merz

But it's AI

[verbal torrent]

Anann

[wild sapphire]

My consolation in AI’s ability to emulate human appearance and voice so effectively is that it may end influencers as a cultural pursuit and career

So many careers are about looking beautiful or handsome, but what need for that is there when AI can be flawless

At least, in those fields where you can get away with this

[wild sapphire]

Both are competently made

One is wearing less clothes than I would like

Why do you emote your own posts

[thorny steeple]

Wdym

[wild sapphire]

They both capture the human form accurately, the folds of clothes

[turbid dome]

What is your feed lmaoooo

[uncut tiger]

He's bodyshaming

What a jerk

[wild sapphire]

My critique is the man with the beard needs to put on pants

And also a shirt

I’ll settle for a bathrobe

That would make his statue great again

[uncut tiger]

Then what's the point of his majestic body

[thorny steeple]

Gym

[wild sapphire]

He has one, and for that he should be grateful

That should be enough for him

[uncut tiger]

@thorny steeple you fell for my ragebait

[thorny steeple]

[wild sapphire]

Everyone says this to me when i talk about men wearing shirts

“BRO GYM LIFE BRO”

[turbid dome]

Look up masterclass247 and click on the first link, I think the social media count for this group is what’s positing this lmaoooo

[wild sapphire]

I guess gym goers hate shirts

[turbid dome]

It’s a hustlers university adjacent thing

[wild sapphire]

Why would i look up masterclass247 when i dont use social media even for intelligent things

I just avoid it altogether

[uncut tiger]

Bodyshaming can be good sometimes

[turbid dome]

lol look between the images, I always find it telling of social media feeds to see what people consume

Nothing good lol

[wild sapphire]

I only look up news related to video games, comic books, and star wars

[uncut tiger]

Are you 30yo

[wild sapphire]

33 yes

[uncut tiger]

Do you like comics

The DC ones

[turbid dome]

What about Gurbanguly Berdimuhamadow, his son Serdar Berdimuhamadow, and Serdar’s son Kerimguly Berdimuhamadow

[wild sapphire]

Reading about them, i dont buy them

I stay abreast of the lore sometimes

[wild sapphire]

This man would be historically notable for his name alone

[turbid dome]

He ran a regime more brutal than north Korea so he’s historic for that too

[wild sapphire]

His other accomplishments pale in the light of bearing such a majestic appellation

[uncut tiger]

What in the name of unemployment are you yapping about

[wild sapphire]

Oh so he’s awful

[turbid dome]

What if I told you he’s attracted to horses

[wild sapphire]

Disgusting

[turbid dome]

The former president of Turkmenistan, the current president of Turkmenistan, and the son of the current president of Turkmenistan

[uncut tiger]

This guy visited my country once, yes I remember

[turbid dome]

He literally did a propaganda film where he helped a horse give birth 😭

[turbid dome]

Damn ok

[wild sapphire]

That’s… weird and folksy but it doesn’t denote attraction

Like he is trying to seem like a man of the country

[turbid dome]

No the attraction is from statements he made in his book

[wild sapphire]

I don’t want to hear them

[manic juniper]

I read Big Monkey's book on Big Monkey

[wild sapphire]

I am not one of those people who has an unquenchable thirst for knowledge of the unknown and profane

Life is littered with dog droppings

I know i will never hear an end of it

I know what i want to know

I have no desire to foul up my brain

[thorn sky]

Hello serious ppl

[turbid dome]

He has funnier things, like a propaganda film of him shooting targets while riding a bike

[wild sapphire]

You already told me he is a vile pig

[turbid dome]

https://youtu.be/Nk3MTdyH4-A?si=XDneMX8RofeT8bn2

[olive fractal]

monke

[turbid dome]

This is a 10/10 propaganda film

[thorny steeple]

People like Thays Carla need bodyshaming

[wild sapphire]

Gym bros are stupid

You have convinced me

Mark the moment mando

Cant figure out how to put on a shirt, cant figure out how to see a human past their body

Should be working out their brains

[thorny steeple]

Im not asking u to go to gym

[wild sapphire]

How much muscle do you actually need

I already do

[manic juniper]

I notice you also read the entire book

[wild sapphire]

I just do it for health not to be jacked

And i wear a shirt while doing it

[onyx geyser]

wassup guys

[manic juniper]

That would cause oxidative damage

[thorny steeple]

Why ru stressed?

What's happening

[wild sapphire]

This isnt me being stressed mando

This is me being mildly contemptuous

[manic juniper]

Exercising is a scam

[thorny steeple]

U look stressed

[wild sapphire]

You will learn the many emotions of bumperfish in time

[manic juniper]

Power isn't temporary like that of mammals

[olive fractal]

yes

I'm also a professional Wombatologist

[wild sapphire]

I have contempt, disgust, patronization

[manic juniper]

If mammals don't exercise they lose power. Heck not all mammals do, gorillas don't exercise yet they keep their power

[wild sapphire]

I’m like a rainbow of human feeling

[olive fractal]

so do wombats

[manic juniper]

It's only cringe mammals that need exercise to appear powerful

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[wild sapphire]

Like an onion, really

[turbid dome]

Ikr

[manic juniper]

Cartilage tougher than a tank

[uncut tiger]

So humans are cringe

[manic juniper]

They mog mammals' weak bite forces with their cartilage

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-well-excuse-me-my-bad-forgive-me-gif-10611279413193981889

[manic juniper]

Yes

[olive fractal]

their round appearance might fool some

but true wombat enjoyers will always acknowledge their strength

[thorny steeple]

Yes. We are lol

[wild sapphire]

I am an honorary woman since college

[uncut tiger]

But modern humans require excercise to look good

[wild sapphire]

I like women i think they are built tough, strong

[manic juniper]

They require it to look more cringe

[wild sapphire]

Periods, disgusting men, childbirth

Pain and pain and pain

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/tough-girl-guns-muscles-flex-gif-12865137

[uncut tiger]

Do you dislike abs and big biceps

[turbid dome]

Why did I just get an ifcj ad lmao

[wild sapphire]

And they are human beings like me

[olive fractal]

I'm still waiting to become a Wombat hc.

[manic juniper]

Yes

[wild sapphire]

Mistake me for a human, no error is made

[thorny steeple]

Women?

[wild sapphire]

All human, always were

[uncut tiger]

But a healthy body is one with attractive muscles

[wild sapphire]

You need to stop watching andrew tate and his ilk

You dont need stupid lessons

[uncut tiger]

What color is your Bugatti

[olive fractal]

to a certain point, yes

[manic juniper]

It's overworked, the body reverts to its base appearance as soon as you stop pumping

[wild sapphire]

Dang my entire world view in pieces

[turbid dome]

Generally it’s fit but not super muscled

[olive fractal]

what colour is your Saab

[manic juniper]

There are also those who are naturally born like that

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-eye-roll-unimpressed-uninterested-gif-24750955

[uncut tiger]

But the base appearance still has somewhat big muscles

[uncut tiger]

What's that

[olive fractal]

car and arms manufacturer

[manic juniper]

Don't know anyone who kept them once they stopped exercising

Their skin gets loose

[uncut tiger]

But excercise gives healthy body

[thorny steeple]

Andrew Tate sucks

[manic juniper]

Looks unnatural and overworked

[wild sapphire]

Then stop sounding like him

[uncut tiger]

So u saying that a healthy body is unnatural and overworked

[manic juniper]

You can be healthy without any of that

[wild sapphire]

Healthy is not the same as someone who wants to appear jacked

One emphasizes health the other appearance

[thorny steeple]

How should I act? Like who?

[uncut tiger]

But I thought every healthy body had decent muscles

[manic juniper]

Sir Christopher Lee

[turbid dome]

The most healthy is generally not super jacked people, it’s people who just live their lives. People who walk where they need to go vs people who try to lift more

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-sleep-christopher-dracula-count-gif-16882292

[uncut tiger]

Can you show me what a healthy body looks like

[wild sapphire]

I have some thoughts

But need to attend to something off of discord

[thorny steeple]

Proceed

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sid-ice-age-belly-fat-big-gif-3727946922735563596

[uncut tiger]

Sorry I meant a healthy human body

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-and-obi-wan-kenobi-vs-count-dooku-anakin-and-obiwan-vs-dooku-kenobi-and-skywalker-vs-dooku-skywalker-and-kenobi-anakin-and-obiwan-gif-8736142311983974303

[turbid dome]

It doesn’t all look the same that’s the point. A good example would be Sardinia. They don’t live longer because they’re jacked, they’re healthier and live longer because they eat a good diet and walk longer

[uncut tiger]

Sorry I meant a shirtless healthy human body

[thorny steeple]

What do you think about Jordan Peterson?

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-qwark-ratchet-funny-clank-jak-and-daxter-the-lost-frontier-boogerman-gif-22537566

[wild sapphire]

I have seen about three clips of him

I dont use social media, i dont have people i listen to or watch

[uncut tiger]

He literally has big muscles

[wild sapphire]

I read my bible and talk to others and form my opinions

[thorny steeple]

Goat

[turbid dome]

He’s incredibly dumb

[thorny steeple]

Proceed

[manic juniper]

He never exercised a single day in his life

[uncut tiger]

Idc, he has muscles, and you saying he healthy

[wild sapphire]

Qwarktastic

[manic juniper]

He can breath in space without an apparatus too

[wild sapphire]

What a specimen

[thorny steeple]

Do you use Youtube?

[manic juniper]

I said that unnatural and overworked is bad, he is neither unnatural nor overworked

[wild sapphire]

Once every two months maybe

I have it blocked on every device i own

[uncut tiger]

He kinda looks unnatural with that big big chest

[turbid dome]

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9702164-i-dreamed-i-saw-my-maternal-grandmother-sitting-by-the

[wild sapphire]

I said i dont use social media

[turbid dome]

This is Jordan Peterson dreaming about his grandmother

[wild sapphire]

No wait except my consoles

[thorny steeple]

Don't you thinl Discod is a social media

[wild sapphire]

This is all

I have no other platform

[uncut tiger]

Do you watch porn

[turbid dome]

It’s so disgusting and repulsive

[wild sapphire]

On occasion, I have- but I think this is immoral, so I take many steps to not do that or fall into that temptation

[thorny steeple]

Use your words

[uncut tiger]

So you're not Married

[wild sapphire]

I am a man with impulses, I am straight, and in some moments more than others I feel that

But I do not believe feeling or wanting things means you should have those things

I want to honor God and also women

And I feel the industry debases them

[wild sapphire]

No

[thorny steeple]

The best argument I've seen. Congratulations. Keep acting like this

[turbid dome]

My point is he’s a freak. He pushes right wing agendas by pretending to be an unbiased centrist. The quote I sent was his quote talking about his grandmother, I think it’s worth a read for anyone who takes it seriously.

[turbid dome]

It’s not supposed to be an argument

[uncut tiger]

Can you beat him in a debate

[thorny steeple]

I don't think so

[turbid dome]

Yes, he relies on false information

Pseudoscience, fallacies

[thorny steeple]

Wow

[thorny steeple]

Dayummm

[manic juniper]

what about the big butt-shaped chin?

[thorny steeple]

You right

[wild sapphire]

It is better generally to assume that whoever your idol is is a deeply flawed person

[uncut tiger]

He can use all sorts of logical fallacies against you, he's an experienced player

[turbid dome]

I have experience lol, the thing is I know how to stop them: don’t entertain them.

Call them out, ridicule him

[uncut tiger]

Not more experience than him tho

[turbid dome]

He has an alpha male fan base, they just want to see bloodsport

[turbid dome]

His experience is in deception

[uncut tiger]

I don't think you should care

[wild sapphire]

Are you talking about mandalorian

[turbid dome]

Jordan Peterson

[thorny steeple]

Ok ok, tell us someone to replace him?

[turbid dome]

lol I don’t

[wild sapphire]

You think he is devil in the flesh

[turbid dome]

Nobody should fill his role

[turbid dome]

No, he’s a grifter

[thorny steeple]

U didn't hate me few days ago

[uncut tiger]

Do you earn fat stacks

(Money money dolla dolla)

[wild sapphire]

I dont know many high profile figures in politics that arent grifters

I cant think of a single one actually

[turbid dome]

He’s just one of the best lol.

[turbid dome]

Yeah idk how he’ll turn out but Zohran Mamdani seems promising

[wild sapphire]

Oh yes

Zohran Mamdani

He will be different from the rest

At last

[wild sapphire]

Holla holla bing bada boom rizzle dizzle shalambaya

Kazingus

[turbid dome]

I mean, probably not long term if he folds to pressure

Short term yes

He’s nearly perfect in his messaging

[uncut tiger]

@wild sapphire I had a guy whom I talked to on discord for a long time, he was 40 yo and a mathematician turn software engineer. You remind me of that guy

[wild sapphire]

I would vote for a politician named Honest insert name here

Like Honest Pete

[uncut tiger]

You're probably very knowledgeable

He was too

[wild sapphire]

About nothing of any value at all

[uncut tiger]

Yea that's what he said but was a bit narcissistic about all his knowledge

[wild sapphire]

Except in my opinion anything that pertains to my Christian beliefs, I don’t exist for any other purpose

But ofc i know this is not a shared opinion

[uncut tiger]

He's also Christian

He once told me that communists invented the word capitalism in order to identify their enemies

[wild sapphire]

I once said tung tung sahur

Multiple times actually

If that helps

[uncut tiger]

Yes he also didn't take me seriously sometimes because he was middle aged and I was just a random kid for him

[wild sapphire]

YOU CAUGHT ME

I AM HIM

[uncut tiger]

Is your first name Christopher

[wild sapphire]

diazonium you old rapscallion

You old rascal and a half, i was wondering how long it would take you to see through my thinly veiled disguise

Ha ha you never fail

[turbid dome]

https://youtu.be/cUZUOnlW7zg?si=_6R41wyfTItVYwrW

“he’s been in government for 27 minutes, he’s passed 3 bills”

1 bill per 9 minutes on average sounds incredibly efficient

[wild sapphire]

How are you doing you old pirate

[uncut tiger]

Well I tried to prank him once using a second id but he caught me

[wild sapphire]

Oh yes and this is payback

Ho hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Got you this time

Ah classic

[manic juniper]

Man the heat is too much

[uncut tiger]

What are your views on @nal seggs parasites

[wild sapphire]

😐

You know, I am a virgin

[uncut tiger]

Those which induce affinity for an#l

The toxoplasma

[manic juniper]

Why do you think about people engaging in that, are you gay

[wild sapphire]

Fortunately I will never have to devote a second more of my brain’s processing power to that question except for what I afforded it in the second that it took me to read your question

[uncut tiger]

A guy CURED his gayness using turpentine oil

[wild sapphire]

Okaaay whelp

Been fun

[uncut tiger]

Definitely you're not him

LOL

[manic juniper]

I know someone who cured cancer using a volcano

[wild sapphire]

I think volcanos can cure many diseases and ailments

[uncut tiger]

I know someone who boofed hydrogen peroxide and his AIDS went away

[thorny steeple]

[wild sapphire]

I should write a book about it

[uncut tiger]

Have you written any other books

[wild sapphire]

I have made books a couple of times but not for publishing

For projects and things like that

I wrote a zelda fan fiction designed to be terrible and it spawned fan art and fan fictions of my fan fiction

They made a website to host all the fanfictions of my fanfiction

[uncut tiger]

Damn

Are you popular in comic niches

[bronze wedge]

[wild sapphire]

This was from a different time

My relatively minor minor contributions to internet culture are long gone

Except maybe that fan fiction

[uncut tiger]

@wild sapphire what did you study in university

[wild sapphire]

I saw an animation not long ago from a company that makes those types of things and they did a version of link that resembles the one from my fiction

[wild sapphire]

Education

[uncut tiger]

Yes what kind of education

[wild sapphire]

I have a masters in education

[uncut tiger]

Education In general

[wild sapphire]

My masters project was trying to see if it was possible to foster and cultivate empathy in kids

[uncut tiger]

What do they teach you in that

[wild sapphire]

How to educate

[uncut tiger]

Was this your passion

[wild sapphire]

I love people

Education is garbage

I love the things I work with not the system

I hate it

[uncut tiger]

So you love to educate

But you forgot to learn something to educate

You only learnt how to educate not what to educate

[wild sapphire]

I dont like to flatter myself and the only time i speak positively of myself is when i am confident what i am saying is clinical fact

I think badly of myself

Generally, i am a good teacher

[wild sapphire]

The system is garbage

It makes something that shouldnt suck, suck

I hate it

[uncut tiger]

Bro what do you educate@wild sapphire

[wild sapphire]

Technically multiple subject

[uncut tiger]

Which ones

[wild sapphire]

Math, science, english, whatever

[manic juniper]

Meth

[wild sapphire]

But i love english

[wild sapphire]

Not this one no

Do you think i sound like i am drug addled rn?

[manic juniper]

Walter White never was an addict but he taught meth

[wild sapphire]

Oh lol

Walter white is far more knowledgable than me

Oh it’s saturday

[verbal abyss]

What did you think it was

[wild sapphire]

Friday?

[wild sapphire]

Btw kid books

Like wrote a story and illustrated it, that kind of thing

[verbal abyss]

Sounds cute

[wild sapphire]

Lol maybe

It’s really hard writing to a kid’s perspective

You have to constantly think about how a child will understand the idea you are trying to present with their limited grasp of the language

[verbal abyss]

Wait

You write for kids or as a kid?

[wild sapphire]

The stories I wrote were for kids

[verbal abyss]

I think write for kids is pretty simple from subjective side

[wild sapphire]

No it isn’t

[verbal abyss]

You just teach them what you think is important for new generation

But are those things you wrote were really important or its just your wrong opinion

[wild sapphire]

Thinking it is easy to teach kids something they haven’t learned before is one of the classic blunders- never get into a land war in Asia, never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line

And never assume teaching a kid is as easy as you think it is

[verbal abyss]

Please read what i said again

[wild sapphire]

I did

[wild sapphire]

Still wrong

[verbal abyss]

Why?

[wild sapphire]

Can you play any instrument competently?

Humor me for a moment

[verbal abyss]

Its easy to teach them something you think they should know but might be not easy to teach them right things

[wild sapphire]

Any instrument?

Piano?

[verbal abyss]

How it is related

[wild sapphire]

It is

Is that a no? Nothing shameful in it

I think you will understand anyway

[verbal abyss]

I can't

How is it related

Im saying from position of storytelling

[wild sapphire]

This is a Fibonacci, a very expensive piano

[verbal abyss]

It looks delightful

[wild sapphire]

This is rachmaninoff prelude in g flat minor

You can play rachmaninoff prelude in g flat minor on that Fibonacci in its entirety provided you possess the technical know how

No note needs to be left out

The entire thing on that piano can be heard as intended

Do you understand so far?

[wild sapphire]

This is a crocodile piano

[verbal abyss]

Not really

[wild sapphire]

It is a nondescript brand piano vaguely shaped like some kind of creature, ostensibly a crocodile

How easy do you think it would be to play rachmaninoff prelude in g flat minor on this crocodile piano

[verbal abyss]

Makes sense

I got you

You made me think about trying to write something

But now im practicing my English listening watching serials

[manic juniper]

Does that piano have the same notes as the other

[wild sapphire]

I doubt it

[manic juniper]

Otherwise it makes no sense, it's just impossible and has no equivalent

[wild sapphire]

Yeah it would be a herculean effort

[manic juniper]

No

Simply impossible

[wild sapphire]

The things that seem so simple for adults to understand are not easily understood by children at all

They are playing the songs you give them on the crocodile piano

You have to deconstruct everything into bite sized pieces

And sometimes the pieces wont even be the thing you mean to say

[manic juniper]

But this is just impossible, it's not a matter of appearing simple

[wild sapphire]

I conveyed the meaning

[manic juniper]

A good analogy here is that just as you can't use the crocodile piano you cannot make a compelling children story

[wild sapphire]

Okay lol

[verbal abyss]

Isfrun can't be creative

[wild sapphire]

Pedantic isfrun always pedantic

[manic juniper]

I just gave a better example

It implies that I have a minimum of creativity

[wild sapphire]

I dont understand what your better example is

[verbal abyss]

But in this point "playing Rachmaninoff on crocodile piano" is also a creative task

[wild sapphire]

You just said that i cant write kid’s stories i guess

[manic juniper]

It's an impossible task because the crocodile piano is not the same tool as the other piano

[wild sapphire]

Ty isfrun

[verbal abyss]

That requires skills which not everyone can evolve in themselves but some don't even need to evolve

[wild sapphire]

Very astute

[manic juniper]

I made it work

[wild sapphire]

You’re right

[turbid dome]

It appears that way yes

[wild sapphire]

I didnt notice it before

It does seem that that crocodile piano is not the same as the fibonacci

Oops

[manic juniper]

I didn't say the same

[verbal abyss]

This was the point 😭😭

[manic juniper]

No, the point is that it's possible, just difficult

But it's not possible if the notes are different

[verbal abyss]

It doesn't matter that was analogy to understand better

[wild sapphire]

@verbal abyss you understood the point, so ty

Let us concede the point to isfrun here

[manic juniper]

It's like surviving off eating frogs in the Amazon forest or off eating frogs on Mars

[wild sapphire]

Right, true

[manic juniper]

One of these two isn't more difficult, it's literally impossible

[turbid dome]

I don’t think the notes are different though

[prisma cipher]

Unblocked

[verbal abyss]

And i think it will sound much different but have similarity

[turbid dome]

The only difference is octave

[manic juniper]

But Bumperfish said they are

That's what counts

[turbid dome]

Alright

[verbal abyss]

Incredible

[wild sapphire]

Wow

[prisma cipher]

Incredible fast I agree

[wild sapphire]

It’s like christmas in june

[turbid dome]

I mean it looks like it has the typical ABCDEFG and sharp/flat keys, but it has a limited range of a few octaves

[wild sapphire]

Did you break some kind of personal record

Two unblocks in one day

[manic juniper]

Can you play that song 1:1?

[wild sapphire]

Lightning striking the same spot

[turbid dome]

Let me check

[wild sapphire]

Is that what you think i was saying lol

[verbal abyss]

As far as i concerned its the same in South America

[manic juniper]

I just criticised the bad example

I get what you meant, but you need better examples

[turbid dome]

No, the other piano has more available octaves which are required

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun from now until eternity, let us agree that you are right in all matters even when you are wrong

[verbal abyss]

But can you make it sounds understandable ?

[wild sapphire]

And therefore with that out of the way

[verbal abyss]

Yes and its the point

[manic juniper]

F

[wild sapphire]

Let us never again argue about something so hopelessly stupid as this topic

[turbid dome]

Not really

[manic juniper]

It wouldn't live up to the same quality

[verbal abyss]

Fuck guys we worry too much because of 3rd grade analogy

[turbid dome]

There would be high parts of the song which would be cut off

[wild sapphire]

Does this suit you? Label me a dunce and we will call it even

[verbal abyss]

Name a wise book

A random one

[turbid dome]

For example, a C in bass clef might not be achievable

[wild sapphire]

Martini why

[manic juniper]

Labyrinth of Evil

[wild sapphire]

Why are you explaining this to isfrun

[turbid dome]

Look at how few keys the small one has

[verbal abyss]

Made me laugh

[turbid dome]

Idk

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun misses the forest for the trees

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/עילאי-ilay-illay-וויסמן-gif-8286408480149614186

[manic juniper]

Proof that even a reptile can be ruined by mammals

[wild sapphire]

It’s fine she is smart in her way