🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

Ke agr tidi dil bhi ghusse inke mulk mei inki godi media bolegi ye pak ne kiya ha 😞

[thorny steeple]

If even a timid heart gets angry in their country then their lapdog media will say that Pakistan has done this 😞

[thorny steeple]

😂

[shy summit]

He’s not wrong tho

[pallid glade]

Video has been shown to public now from pahalgam

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

What’s the funniest joke you know by heart?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

Topic

Who did you use to look up to, but they screwed up and you lost faith in them?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[covert lava]

hi , Does anyone want to learn Portuguese?

[balmy matrix]

How

[covert lava]

I want to learn English and I can teach Portuguese

[balmy matrix]

So u want kinda languages exchanging

[covert lava]

yeah

[sick raft]

Hey I do

[sick raft]

Me please

[shy summit]

The Orange Oppressor started deporting American Citizen children with metastatic cancer

What in the goddamnn

[sick raft]

Can I see

Not very serious if we are using informal language 😹

[feral river]

It is when you try to use it on other people

Good new is they are deporting these haters and extremists even terrorists

They will deport every terrorist supporter

[real monolith]

Food

[feral river]

Omfg why there’s a crazy suffix

[thick pulsar]

it's the only way copium can flow through people I guess xD

[feral river]

Btw I think it’s fine but looks pretty ugly tbh

[feral river]

Lmao

Anyway I respect their freedom

But do not mess around with us, if that’s the case we will fight back very hard

Be what-the-fuck-ever you want, nobody gives a shit, use it to contribute to a political movement, fuck off

[thick pulsar]

I think the world is headed towards very tough times

not a good time to be a college student, sigh...

[thick pulsar]

true I suppose

[feral river]

You are sent to be a collage student

I guess

[thick pulsar]

yupp

[feral river]

I was not supposed to be a collage student but they offered a lot I could enjoy, and there was some relationship around me which I could use them to have some privillage

For example, almost free tuition, guaranteed exchange program, free vacation, no unnecessary events I must attend

And all test were passed even I studied nothing

Well through my family resources I can do that

I can even steal poor subsidies lmao

[livid charm]

👀

[sick raft]

@pine bough, I was referring to civic nationalism, to clarify.

Not being civic. Nationalism in many instances, as you said, is far from civic!

Regardless, it is a very powerful force.

[uneven citrus]

because bread tastes better than key

[sick raft]

Indeed, I would argue, the most powerful idealogical force, as I have evidenced.

@pine bough ez

[pine bough]

hey

[sick raft]

people prefer to practice ignorance more often these days and one should be moral without being proud of the fact that they are being moral , that pride can corrupt morals , no matter how aware you are

Interesting point

This is a question of first principles but I agree

Pride always corrupts moral and power

[pine bough]

pride comes from lack of constant doubt i believe

[sick raft]

I would argue that humans are inherently social animals, and that we seek reputation and pride and other elements of this inherent socialness

We want to feel superior to others

[pine bough]

and doubt is always needed in matters of morals

[sick raft]

Could you elaborate

What do you mean by that

[pine bough]

i don't think it's possible to kill that pride , naturally , people who are anti-social and those don't want to be in a herd , make distance from society on belief that they are better than the people who follow the herd

[sick raft]

I agree. Even those who are anti-social, which society prescribes them as introverts, still have a social tendency, regardless. It is, as we both agree, human nature.

I agree with you that, too, though. Certain people, maybe those more anti-social, will tend to think they are superior. In what ways? Maybe moral supremacy?

However, every human being has that tendency.

Even those who follow the herd will have that tendency. They will believe in their superiority for action they do in it of itself: they are following the flock, and the others aren't!

[pine bough]

different people see/feel different things cuz of different experiences they had , that shaped their worldview of how they see or feel things , without doubt we might feel that we are doing the right thing but if we don't practice doubt everytime we're doing something moral in reality we might be doing something too immoral but we wouldn't be aware of it

[sick raft]

That is an important part of nationalism, too, that we are describing. Humans are social animals, and we go after things when we become pat of nations, such as pride, power, and so forth.

[sick raft]

I agree with you. That also leads to many different perspectives on morals and what is considered "right" around the world.

As Hobbes wrote,

So that in the nature of man, we find three principal
causes of discord. First •competition, secondly •distrust,
thirdly •glory. Chapter 13

Nature has made men so equal in their physical and
mental capacities that, although sometimes we may find one
man who is obviously stronger in body or quicker of mind
than another, yet taking all in all the difference between one
and another is not so great that one man can claim to have
any advantage ·of strength or skill or the like· that can’t just
as well be claimed by some others. As for •strength of body:
the weakest man is strong enough to kill the strongest, either
by a secret plot or by an alliance with others who are in the
same danger that he is in

[pine bough]

The definition of right and wrong is constantly changing

[sick raft]

There is no agreed definition, and there never will be.

In the words of my old friend: nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so

But even on what people think is right and wrong, I agree, it changes.

[pine bough]

equality feels like prison to some , no men is made equal to another, in hope to keep our sense of self in tune with the society we kill our very own nature , little by little , that might lead to bitterness that we're not always aware of

[pine bough]

value is always given , i guess

[sick raft]

In the state of nature.

[shy summit]

:/ This isn’t even about fighting terrorists

[sick raft]

Very sad

[deep zephyr]

So india is trying to stop the flow of piss

[formal pilot]

@peak shale I'm sure you're an excellent war expert and you know the nuances better than Ai, I'd love to witness your findings, can you please share it with us

I'm legit excited about it

[unkempt shale]

Bread

[thorny steeple]

@steep olive "Nationalism is a call of Jahiliyyah and is forbidden. It is obligatory for Muslims to abandon it and to unite upon Islam."
— Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn Baz, 1/311

"Nationalism is an evil ideology. It causes Muslims to fight each other and abandon their religion in favor of their races. It is haram."
— Al-Irshad ila Sahih al-I’tiqad, p. 146

"Everyone who promotes partisanship to a group—whether based on lineage, country, or school of thought—and puts that above loyalty to Islam and the believers, then he is among those whom Allah and His Messenger ﷺ warned against."
— Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 28/328

Bhai virat kohli dedo or kasmir lelo jung to krni nhi tm logo ne to deal kr lete

[shell lily]

says the nationalist himself

[thorny steeple]

From where does the concept or nation Pakistan exists

Pakistan isnt a nationalist country

[steep olive]

I still can't see where it is Kufr
I didn't say it is good, I literally said it is a mental illness but you said it is Kufr which is not

[shell lily]

ooooo grape

https://tenor.com/view/meme-man-gif-25512832

[thorny steeple]

if you worship anyone except allah then is it Kufr, sin or

[thorny steeple]

Pakistan is an ideology, Islam

[shell lily]

https://tenor.com/view/wowgrape-gif-25173788

[thorny steeple]

What is the meaning of Pakistan there is no God but one

Famous slogan

[shell lily]

so you're an ideologist?

[thorny steeple]

yes we love our Islam and ideology

"Pakistan is not merely a piece of land, it is the name of a concept, a goal... a laboratory to practice Islam."

~Famous Poet Iqbal

[steep olive]

I give up, I'm not getting paid enough for that

[thorny steeple]

those nationalist who dont worship allah, but worship their country like Islam it is considered kufr, its my view, you can have your view

[shell lily]

hows that so different from a nation?

[hot zephyr]

then there are many paks

[thorny steeple]

"In the world of Islam, we must no longer regard the modern ideas of nationalism as final."
— Letter to Jinnah, 1937

"I warn you of the rising idols in the temple of nationalism."

“The essence of Tauheed, as a working idea, is equality, solidarity, and freedom. The State from an Islamic standpoint is an endeavor to transform these ideal principles into space-time forces...”
— Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam

Iqbal said leave your national identity, you are all Pakistani, 4oo years ago we were all punjabis, our language, culture and everything is left in the past and new identity we adopted is muslims

[hot zephyr]

plus the question of bangladesh becoming separate also raise questions on the so called ideology of pak

sorry, wanted to add these points

[steep olive]

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
but I'm gonna tell you one thing:

that who tells his brother "Whenever a man tells his brother "oh Kafir", then one of them has fulfilled it"

Sahih Bukhari

go learn before you talk cause you are destroying your Akhira

[shell lily]

okay you right
imma head out

[thorny steeple]

We didnt full fill our founders vision and left them behind and unfortunatly that separation happenes

[thorny steeple]

“Pakistan was created the day the first Indian Muslim said ‘La ilaha illallah.’”

Founder of Pakistan

[hot zephyr]

then the whole world is pak

eh, these are just political speeches to give islamic touch

[thorny steeple]

“Islam is not merely confined to spiritual doctrines and tenets or rituals and ceremonies. It is a complete code regulating the whole Muslim society, every department of life, collective and individual.”

Pan Islamism

“Pakistan is not only for the Muslims of the Indian subcontinent, but for the Muslims all over the world.”
Famous speech before Pakistan

[hot zephyr]

As per Fatima Jinnah, Jinnah wanted a secular constitution plus he even idealized Mustafa Kamal

[thorny steeple]

Yes, Jinnah was inspired by Ata turk, Ata turk created new identity and cutt of cultural and east idenification, Jinnah and Iqbal wanted to create new identity which was based on Islam

[shell lily]

pakistan is an ideology not a nation
got me giggling

[thorny steeple]

“Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, and literature... They neither intermarry nor interdine together, and indeed they belong to two different civilizations.”
— Lahore Resolution, 1940

[shell lily]

stop bro

dont ping

dont ping me i told you u right

[hot zephyr]

haha

he won't understand, no point in debating

[shell lily]

i aint falling for the same trap twice

[trim veldt]

"The condom may be seen as protection, but it’s the worst invention—because by slowing overpopulation’s destruction, it also delays nature’s healing through rebirth and renewal."

Quote By Aniket Rawat

[unkempt shale]

bro

Bro just wants more kids

[azure brook]

Historical Records and Documents

Historical sources indicate that the Turks and Mongols had distinct ethnic and linguistic origins. The first historical records mentioning the name “Turk” date back to the 6th century AD (during the Göktürk Khaganate), whereas the Mongol identity clearly appeared on the historical stage in the 12th–13th centuries during the time of Genghis Khan. Chinese sources referred to the Göktürks as “Tujue” starting from the 6th century, while they began mentioning Mongol tribes (such as the Khitans and Tatars) in later centuries. This suggests that Turkish communities appeared in history earlier than the Mongols.
@shell lily chatgpt

According to modern scientific understanding, the origins of the Turks trace back to the deep historical layers of Central Asia, likely around the regions of Southern Siberia and the Altai Mountains. The origins of the Mongols, on the other hand, extend to the eastern part of Central Asia, around Lake Baikal and the Manchurian basin. Although these two regions were neighboring and interacted with each other, the peoples who emerged from them developed their own distinct identities. As a result, the claim that the Turks descended from the Mongols is not supported by genetic, historical, anthropological, or archaeological evidence. The scientific consensus holds that the Turks and the Mongols emerged from separate ethnogenetic processes, but can be regarded as two sibling cultures that remained in contact throughout history.

[unkempt shale]

Wait people think turks and mongols r related ethnically

[sharp creek]

..??

is mongol asia country, why could they go so far

by riding horses?

[shell lily]

I didn't mean direct descendants of mongols
I meant cousins
you can't deny that

[thorny steeple]

Mongols were having a big empire in past

[thorny steeple]

Turks and mongols are separate breeds which are coming, genetically they both are different, their culture, langauge was different

in past turks used to worship same relgion and god of mongols

[thorny steeple]

Jindagi barbaad hogya

Inko ata ee nhi 🤣🤣🤣

.

[main bison]

Guys what's your least fav country in the world?
Mine is India

[lilac prawn]

Do we have interesting events today?

[azure brook]

you clearly said türks = mongols or they are coming from them

[formal pilot]

I find it difficult to hate a geographical region

That's why I don't have any

[main bison]

It's not just geographical about a country

I don't like India cus it's dirty

[azure brook]

are you talking about shamanism

[thorny steeple]

yes'

[azure brook]

we still have a lot of superstitions from that one

[shell lily]

Nah
As I said more like cousins

They used to look alike

[thorny steeple]

like wise

[formal pilot]

Based on your criteria you should put Chad at top lol

[feral river]

It’s a puppet state for us to fight against Inida

[shell lily]

But turks got mixed up

[feral river]

You embrace Islam that’s because you have nothing besides Islam

[shell lily]

The dude drove us crazy with china and its support for Pakistan

[thorny steeple]

ofc, chinese runs pakistan

[shell lily]

Plz tell him

[feral river]

And Islam itself, is a backward ideology that promote some crap

[feral river]

We took their port

[azure brook]

we lived so close, im sure we have a lot of common things, just like all arab countries

[shell lily]

But ur tribe was way farther than today's turkey

[azure brook]

have you heard of something called nomadism?

[shell lily]

I have

[dapper laurel]

Italy is richer than japan, china and korea in per capita terms. Italy isn't even the richest European country

[shell lily]

What i meant is you don't share those common things anymore
You guys got more diverse after living with arabs, persians, greeks and so on

[random olive]

You built that port lol

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/world/asia/india-pakistan-military-kashmir-attack.html

Lmao

[hidden shore]

“Rich” isn’t about the per capita, per capita is an average but it doesn’t show inequality, public services and education, healthy care, PPP purchase power the cost of living

[dapper laurel]

For something like that you could look at the human development index, and Italy is in a better position anyway, being also one of the most backward European countries in this area

[magic olive]

God Exists.

Prove me wrong.

[manic juniper]

The Pakistani nationalism detector is off the charts

[prisma cipher]

I "like" the expressions that CNN uses. Ukraine used a surprising offensive. And when Russia attacks, it's a deadly attack.

[thorny steeple]

Serious chat ❌ Gossips about pakistan ✅️

No country hold this much aura

[viscid ferry]

nah those ppl just come in and say pakistan is gr8 and say it until others accept or they get a ban

[thorny steeple]

🤣 do or die

Lmao this is called aura++++++

[viscid ferry]

ikr

[rain geode]

President Vladimr Putin says

[soft nest]

Pepe popo

[valid skiff]

Hey what r u yapping about here

Normally laughing is not allowed on a serious chat

[soft nest]

Pee pee poo poo

[valid skiff]

Don't pee pee poo poo me

[soft nest]

Ignore em

[soft nest]

I'll pee pee poo poo you and you can't do anything about it.

[shy summit]

The fuck is wrong with you?

[lusty zenith]

Po pipo pipo pipo pi-po~

[sharp creek]

what a weired secret signal

di di da di da ?

[feral gazelle]

hiii

[granite robin]

fml holy ragebait

[hidden shore]

they wanna play peek a poo

[queen leaf]

Everything?

[shy summit]

Those aren’t construction vehicles those are military. He’s talking like removing those people and their infrastructure is as mundane as cleaning up garbage.

[queen leaf]

Yeah I get what you are saying

I mean everything is wrong

[sharp creek]

whats that.. icant find it online

although i dont know the gist of these conversations, but watching peoples arguements are really interesting

am i losing my mind

[near blaze]

Oh so it's mostly political

[quasi needle]

maybe because one of them was a surprise attack?

are you just a russian bot

do you have critical thought

russia killed 12 people in one night in the kyiv attack, ukraine ALLEGEDLY killed 56 in the first 7 weeks of the kursk attacks

and that’s if we want to believe russia’s stats

can you equip some like rudimentary comparative logic

to look at the war and even attempt to apply the viewpoint that they’re even equally bad is just downright delusional

[sharp creek]

yes yes thats you, bad guy

[sharp creek]

sir where are you from

[quasi needle]

uk

it’s in the name 😏

[hidden shore]

He is from America

[sharp creek]

I think I will offend someone again. I suppose only people from the Middle East or those who follow certain religions would believe these fake news about the war

[hidden shore]

[sharp creek]

apparently the news serve the war, those are all fake. the truth will cause morale damage.

[errant vine]

And what is the truth then?

[quasi needle]

NO!!!

[hidden shore]

Ur from japan

[prisma cipher]

I'm yes, you're no. And just show me this.

[sharp creek]

The data are officially recognized by both sides. even part of history is fake. however its my own thought . and i dont know if its correct.

BUT a great teacher once said, 'You haven't been through history, so faking most of it is possible.' So, if being skeptical is endless, trusting others is the easier way

omg how philosophical am i

[soft nest]

Well most countries do that shit, either they glorify their history or completely demonize it (Germany) but the latter is rarely done bc of Human errors (ego).

[queen leaf]

It's clearly the opposite though

I find it hard to believe that anyone still doesn't support Ukraine

[queen leaf]

Yeah... it sucks, but it's true. When Russia attacks, civilians get killed. I'm glad that's something we both agree on

[feral river]

yeah we build it and we take it

[prisma cipher]

I don't see the point in trying to convince you of anything. There is my opinion and there is your opinion, which is wrong. The difference is that I have more information than you.

[feral river]

they are our properties

[feral river]

I support Russia

Ukraine is part of Russia

pretty clear isn't it

I don't think that would work if you try to bring some paperwork of shit about history belongings that might cause contradiction and those are all nonsense in face of Russian military

paperwork or history backup all based on who have controlled this part of the territory and the population, winner write the history, losers being wiped out from the map and nobody gives a fucking shit

if you think Ukraine could win the war, okay I respect that idea, but other nonsense, nah

when the time of Russian military takeover the entirety of Ukraine, I don't think you would remember there was a country called Ukraine few decades ago

and people do not.

and we will see who will win this war

survival for the fittest

[main bison]

I'm quite disappointed with what's happening in UK rn
Is it really that bad?

Brits are moving to UAE

[quasi needle]

?

whats happening??

[main bison]

It's not safe there?

[quasi needle]

??????????????????????

[main bison]

Especially in london

[queen leaf]

You say you don't see the point in convincing me, but you still feel the need to tell me I am wrong. Kinda doesn't work like that, does it?

[quasi needle]

in what world

[queen leaf]

Having more information clearly didn't help you develop better judgement

So congrats on wasting all that knowledge

[prisma cipher]

It just work like that

[queen leaf]

It is not?

[queen leaf]

No it doesn't

[prisma cipher]

It is.

[queen leaf]

Prove it then

[main bison]

Also the number of homeless and drug addicts is increasing in london

[queen leaf]

You can't prove Ukraine is part of Russia, can you?

[quasi needle]

if ukraine were part of russia the world would fucking say it

[feral river]

I don't have to, they will simply take it by force

[queen leaf]

Great to hear the British people stand with Ukraine

[quasi needle]

your arbitrary nonsense arguments "russia is bigger so russia's word is surely right" is both moronic and delusional

[feral river]

at that time even you can prove it's not part of the Russia, doesn't matter

[quasi needle]

russia will take crimea and call it a day

[queen leaf]

No, if you claim Ukraine is part of Russia, you need actual evidence. You can't prove it, so now the best you can come up with is 'I don't have to'? That's just weak

[quasi needle]

ukraine 9not as it is now but still the general idea) predated russia too so like

[feral river]

I don't fucking have to, they will simply take it over

[quasi needle]

you have zero founded argument except "russia has bigger army"

[feral river]

does that clear or not

[queen leaf]

No they won't

[feral river]

then see

[queen leaf]

Like who told you they will?

[quasi needle]

and to say their outdated, overrated crumbling military will take over ukraine just shows a clouded misjudgement

[queen leaf]

Russia? China?

[feral river]

don't cry when they take it over, we are sending stuff to Russia

[quasi needle]

theyve been at a DEADLOCK for THREE YEARS!

third strongest army my ass

[queen leaf]

Yes because they are running out of soldiers

Like this conversation is so pointless

[quasi needle]

even if america decides to permanently cease all aid it will be nothing

[queen leaf]

You are from China of course you support Russia

[quasi needle]

the EU & allies provides OVER twice as much aid as the us

and that will simply ramp up

[feral river]

ah huh crazy stereotypes against people based on nationality

[thorny steeple]

he dont have coomon, he is super nationalist, if you take him and believe him then you are someone i cant name

[queen leaf]

Lol, honestly, almost every Chinese person I've met online sides with Russia

[quasi needle]

its not a stereotype if its true

75% of chinese citizens support russia via polling

[prisma cipher]

Prove what, that I don't want to convince you. I already did

[queen leaf]

Prove that Ukraine is part of Russia

[eternal ocean]

[queen leaf]

oh sorry was it the Chinese guy that said that?

[prisma cipher]

I'd rather go play Zelda.

[restive barn]

if anyone interested to practice English one of one message me

[feral river]

I side with the guy who will win the war

same logic I side with Israel against terrorists in Gaza

winner writes history, losers disappears from the world

[queen leaf]

Is Ukraine terrorist?

[feral river]

survival for the fittest, that's the law of nature

it's just that fucking simple

if you want to proof something, win the war first

[quasi needle]

its called not having morals and being a terrible human being

dont bother disagreeing

[quasi needle]

homelessness in the UK is not categorized in the same way as other countries. we have a lot of "homeless people", but out of the "homeless" people, only 3% dont have a place to live in, which is 12300 people

[main bison]

It's just so ugly every 10 meters u walk in London u see a homeless man begging for money

[quasi needle]

ive personally only ever seen two homeless people in my life

one in london, one elsewhere

so thats just not true

[sharp creek]

hahha he really enjoys intimidating others...

[sharp creek]

Is religious belief common in Western countries

[quasi needle]

yes

[sharp creek]

unbelievable!! Christianity?

oh , do you pray before having meal

[thorny steeple]

🥺

[quasi needle]

yes

[quasi needle]

im not in a christian household

other people in my family are but my parents and myself arent

ive gone to CofE schools my whole life except for 1 year before i moved house

c of e = church of england

so i do pray fairly regularly im just a non believer

ignore that brain fart

[sharp creek]

its entirely novel to me , thank you sir

i ve never seen anyone pray in my life. only in the movies

[granite robin]

cofe is such bs

[quasi needle]

wdym

[granite robin]

when i moved to england my friend said that in cofe they have female reverands come in...

[quasi needle]

oh no!

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[sharp creek]

may i ask whats the difference between that and normal school

convenient for praying?

[granite robin]

its against the bible to have a female priest

theology is more than "pray to god you good"

[quasi needle]

they have a christian ethos in general like my school assemblies tend to have religious themes, religious education is mandatory in every school but CofE schools generally teach mostly christianity, they might give priority to christian students when applying, they usually have a collective worship and the local church often oversees them

[quasi needle]

do you follow all levitical laws

[granite robin]

yes

[sharp creek]

omg

[quasi needle]

really?

you dont even cut the hair on the side of your head?

[hidden shore]

Why Most People Don’t Know Their 3rd Cousins

[granite robin]

it is about defacing your body not to cut your hair

[rich wyvern]

?Def third cousin

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[sharp creek]

whats that lily

[hidden shore]

3rd cousins share great-great-grandparents

😹

[quasi needle]

leviticus 19 27 ?

says nothing about defacing

if you want to bend around definitions then why do you cherrypick

[granite robin]

it is because of pagan ritual at the time, i will not show you my hair but i do not have shaved sides nor a shaved beard

[granite robin]

i am saying thats what it is, but i still dont cut the sides of my hair

[quasi needle]

and the bible contradicts itself a trillion times

[hidden shore]

what the fuck what yall talking about

[granite robin]

what do you expect between many writers over decades of writing? Anyone would.

[quasi needle]

can you explain romans 16:1-2

[sharp creek]

they are talking about christianity stuff i think

[granite robin]

what do you want explained that they brought Phebe into the church of Rome

[quasi needle]

is that wrong

a deacon is a minister is it not

a position of leadership and authority

[granite robin]

Paul isn't God or Jesus himself, he will break rules all of the time, everyone is sinners even the highest of believers

[granite robin]

she is a servent under the name of the church

she doesnt preach to believers

[granite robin]

Paul is one of the most flawed disciples in the bible

[quasi needle]

they are still in the leadership structure and still teach

[quasi needle]

so i presume paul is the one that introduced pheobe

yet he is the same one that wrote the letter saying i do not permit a woman to lead or teach

he cant get his own opinion right

[granite robin]

KJV says only servent under the church NIV says deacon NLT says deacon NKJV says servant under ESV says servant, versions says different things

[quasi needle]

they still teach

[granite robin]

i have a Russian bible, it wont have the exact same wording as what you have read also I am Orthodox

[quasi needle]

furthermore the other argument makes more sense

that it is in reference to the headship of a family

[granite robin]

Even after a year of English I cant make sense of some words you say, I learned English from a secondary language

[astral quest]

Are you russian?

[quasi needle]

the family argument aligns with genesis 2, the priesthood argument contradicts it

[granite robin]

yes

[quasi needle]

partnership but with order, which supports the equality of man and woman, which contradicts the denial of priesthood

[granite robin]

Born in Russia Tyva and moved to Croatia at 13

[hidden shore]

i wonder that why some counties liike usually Pakistan and Saudi Arabia they tend to marry their 1st cusions

what the fuck can we change the topic

[granite robin]

why are you talking about incest and marrying first through third cousins

[hidden shore]

let us engage the culture things

[quasi needle]

historically it was for financial reasons, that became tradition which unfortunately stuck

it was to do with keeping wealth & land in a family

[hidden shore]

nvm you guys keep going

[hidden shore]

i think they still practice this tradition tho which is kinda risks you know like Higher Risk of Genetic Disorders

[random olive]

No they don't

[hidden shore]

lie

[prime ore]

It exists but it has noticeably decreased by now

[thorny steeple]

@formal pilot did Mars r**e Rhea Silvia?

Anyways Mitra >> Mars

[patent tulip]

happy saturday guyz!!!

[prisma cipher]

It's because he's British

[patent tulip]

here is todays verse of the day: https://www.verseoftheday.com/en/04262025/

[prisma cipher]

[placid pelican]

oii pessoas

✌️

[stoic anvil]

Hey peeps

Is there anyone interested in psychology?

[thorny steeple]

Hi Trump I appreciate you from 🇧🇷

[shy summit]

Been reading “The Forever War,” by Dexter Filkins…. This is… disturbing

[dawn owl]

I am beings serious to any Japanese person or someone who lives or lived in Japan or even visited, did you ever witness a kanamara Matsuri?

[thorny steeple]

Biden had 4 years to solve this, not it's all on a guy who hasn't been in the White house for more than 5 months

[shy summit]

My brother in Adonalsium,… This latest wave of conflict began in late 2023

We had a brief period of less conflict

[fervent imp]

vivek said go to serious chat, it is dead

XD

[shy summit]

So is god, we killed him

[fervent imp]

💀

[thick pulsar]

Lowkey

I need to have a 1 on 1 convo with Pete Hegseth and how tf he went from working for fox news to secretary of defense

I need career advice from that mf

[shy summit]

You don’t want it

Bro is getting clowned on by the media because they dug up his DUIs

[thorny steeple]

@peak shale you will still go to hell

[peak shale]

How to go heaven according to you

[thorny steeple]

to become muslim

[weary solar]

Yo??

[thorny steeple]

and then spend life accoreding to Allah commandments

[weary solar]

😰

[peak shale]

Thik hai let's see who goes to heaven and hell

[thorny steeple]

ok

[uneven citrus]

herd ah

[trim veldt]

"Where rising population could have led to the end of the world, that very destruction could also have opened the path to nature's rebirth—but the condom stopped it."

Quote By Aniket Rawat

[tight depot]

really?

[formal pilot]

Yes, and that's how Romulus and Remus were born 💀

[umbral blade]

spam everywhere🫰

[last prawn]

@boreal flicker

@boreal flicker what happened to u?

why u are fearing too much?

Bro skin is so dark that he lives in darkness

@boreal flicker what happened to u?

@boreal flicker Fear where u exist bro

@boreal flicker uttarakhand people has 100x better genetics than alaska people

Listen my friend u are being rude and bad to me now u want to face consequences u don't know about me

[tough gull]

what's going on?

[last prawn]

he comes in my vc

sees my twitter

and says me ugly

and other things

[tough gull]

block the user

[last prawn]

ok

[tough gull]

stop spam pinging them

[last prawn]

he made me to leave this server why this people exist

[undone marsh]

hello

[feral river]

Wrong address dude, it’s Gaza, Israel 🇮🇱

[feral river]

Regime born from guns - Mao zedong

[feral river]

We do, we are the most powerful species on earth, we dominated the world and established powerful regimes for our survival

Survival for the fittest bro

[prisma cipher]

I always hate picture like this, because. you can make another pic after war where Israel seizes territory and builds everything new, and write 2027 gaza Israel. Pure propaganda from a nale lgbtq+. Ngl his nickname so stupid

[random olive]

That's not the point

The point Is that Israel is killing civilians in the name of eliminating terrorists

[wintry gulch]

the point is: "Don’t mess with us!"

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[prisma cipher]

No it's the point, you can turn the same photo into propaganda but in favor of Israel, which will show that after the war everything became better and more beautiful.

[feral river]

i don’t like that either

[wintry gulch]

@prisma cipher are you israeli?

[prisma cipher]

No I just see what it is. It's propaganda pic.

I'm not pro Israel

[thorny steeple]

So taking a picture off destroyed buildings by Zionists is probganda?

[wintry gulch]

u just use ur brain

[prisma cipher]

this photo is a comparison of how it was and how it is now. and I say that this is bullshit. the world does not stop at this moment. what will you do and say if Israel is built on this very spot better stuff than it was?

You say war is good or what?

This pic mean nothing

[wintry gulch]

i'm israeli...

[prisma cipher]

This exact pic

[prisma cipher]

And?

I'm not pro Israel. I pro Palestinian. But when I see bulahit I call it bulshit.

[wintry gulch]

what should i say then?

[thorny steeple]

It just shows the extent of the destruction they've done. 🤷🏻‍♂️
But anyway the more important is children being killed and citizens.

[wintry gulch]

what about OUR children?

[prisma cipher]

For me it nothing. It even work opposite because I see things several step ahead.

[thorny steeple]

Okay

[prisma cipher]

my idea is that the destruction after the war needs to be shown and said how bad it is. But it is not right to make a comparison, because in the long term it can work in the opposite way.

[thorny steeple]

I understand that you mean "if Zionists build gaza buildings will they be good" and this is a good point but no one says that because it's not only about buildings with some money they can not return the lifes they killed hospitals they destroyed when people needed it.

[queen leaf]

*You don't see things

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[queen leaf]

Yeah no you don't

[prisma cipher]

No I'm not

[thorny steeple]

Yesn't

[hidden shore]

Bangladesh

[feral river]

They are eliminating terrorists

Especially those terrorists who launch terrorist attack against Israel and terrorist supporters who provide fighters, shelters, and other supplies to them

They are all enemies and terrorism affiliated

And they are mostly in the Gaza Strip

A Israeli territory

Ofc Israeli won’t give a fuck to this and they do crack down and kill those terrorists

[thorny steeple]

one year has passed down

when will it will be ended

why arent they able to do it?

are you making fun of china or yourself?

[feral river]

They don’t have to end it before every terrorist in Gaza is down

[thorny steeple]

you seem like that you are in dream

[obtuse remnant]

is there anyone vietnamese

[thorny steeple]

@thorny nexus

[obtuse remnant]

Oh thank

[thorny nexus]

Hmm?

[thorny nexus]

Oh I am:>

[feral river]

Oh you support terrorists ?

[hidden shore]

sup

[obtuse remnant]

Just curious if there are many Vietnamese people here, because i don't see anyone Vietnamese in the voice room =))

[thorny nexus]

I can bring you to the Vietnamese channel:)

[obtuse remnant]

:)))))

[thorny nexus]

You want to? :)

[obtuse remnant]

Okie

[thorny nexus]

Alright :>

[hidden shore]

He wants the golden age of Islam back

Actually look at this map, Muslims are everywhere it’s crazy

[feral river]

Not so crazy when some of them living in some places like Iraq and Syria

[hidden shore]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI6ZjPBgLMN/?igsh=czh0ZGNkMGRndDQ1

bye_dictation

确认了，这帮人在纽约搞的游行，感觉这里面一个上海人都没有。

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I just saw this wtf

[feral river]

Golden age of Islam will never come the fuck back I guarantee you dude

[thorny steeple]

No I dont support any group who kills people brutually, I dont support Israel or any other. also China supports Palestinians

Why are you criticizing and against china?

[feral river]

Their backward ideology does not allow them to be in power in decency

[feral river]

We don’t support Palestinians bro, and tbh our cooperation with Israel covered multiple fields

We have Israeli investment, bilateral trade agreement, military dialogue and cooperation

Israeli even allow us to park our ships in their port

[thorny steeple]

Palestineain terrorists are children and women, so the Zionists kill them. 😂

[feral river]

What do Palestinian have from us ? Nothing

L.M.A.O.

As long as US and our superpowers remains in charge, they will never come the fuck back and they do fight against themselves for all the time even for their sick ideology

[thorny steeple]

It will come back and everyone in earth will be a Muslim

[feral river]

And we will create more events to fight against global terrorism and crack down those potential challengers

[thorny steeple]

China–Palestine relations, also referred to as Sino–Palestinian relations, encompass the long bilateral relationship between China and Palestine dating back from the early years of the Cold War.

During the era of Mao Zedong, China's foreign policy was in support of Third World national liberation movements, with China extending support towards the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). In this period, China supported both Fatah, and smaller militant organizations such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP).

After the victory of Hamas, a Palestinian Islamic militant group, in the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections, China called them the elected representatives of the Palestinian people. The PRC invited the Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar to attend the China-Arab Cooperation Forum in June 2006 ignoring protests by both the United States and Israel but received praise from Mahmoud Abbas.[7] After the 2008–2009 Gaza War, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Qin Gang urged both parties to solve disputes through dialogue and denounces the use of military force in solving conflicts.[8] After the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid the Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokersperson Ma Zhaoxu strongly condemned Israel and urged Israel to seriously implement the UN Security Council resolutions and to improve the situation in the Gaza Strip by lifting the blockade.[9]

During the November 2012 Operation Pillar of Defense in the Gaza Strip, a Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokersperson told reporters in a news conference that China expressed "concern" to the clashes and urge all sides, particularly Israel, to display restraint and avoid civilian casualties.[10] On November 29, 2012, China voted in favor of UN General Assembly Resolution 67/19 Palestine to non-member observer state status in the United Nations.[11] During the 2014 Gaza War, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei on 9 July 2014 in response to the violence said: "We believe that to resort to force and to counter violence with violence will not help resolve problems other than pile up more hatred. We urge relevant parties to bear in mind the broader picture of peace and the lives of the people, immediately realize a ceasefire, stick to the strategic choice of peace talks and strive for an early resumption of talks."[12]

[feral river]

That’s a word, besides this word you have nothing 🤣

China has been Israel's third largest trading partner globally and its largest trading partner in East Asia. Bilateral trade volume increased from $50 million in 1992 to over $10 billion in 2013. Israel has traded significantly with China in technology and arms. Some commentators note similarities between the culture and values of the two nations, as well as their shared economic interests. In the United Nations, China has long voted in support of the State of Palestine and against Israel. In 2024, public opinion polling showed a majority of Israelis consider China to be unfriendly or hostile toward Israel.

Israel maintains an embassy in Beijing and consulates-general in Guangzhou, Chengdu, Hong Kong, and Shanghai, while China maintains an embassy in Tel Aviv.

[thorny steeple]

I would like to see hans how do they or are taking stance against chinese policies

[feral river]

you guys have nothing in comparison with our relationship with Israel

[thorny steeple]

China has relationshipe with Zionists -> Zionists are right

[feral river]

The 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre offered an additional incentive for military relations. Sanctions imposed by Western countries almost froze Chinese access to advanced military and dual-use technologies. Israel then sought to benefit from the situation and became China's backdoor for acquiring Western technology.

Israel was ready to sell China the EL/M-2075 Phalcon, an Israeli airborne early-warning radar system (AWACS), until the United States forced it to cancel the deal. Some estimate that Israel sold arms worth US$4 billion to China in this period.

[thorny steeple]

so going against the interest of cpp, you are supporting a state which is proxy of west. You are totally going against your own policies

[feral river]

Where is the Palestine in this whole time 🤣

[thorny steeple]

I can't stand all these logical fallacies.

Good luck with that @thorny steeple

[feral river]

I do not, we cooperate with every country even the United States, we never proclaimed or even attempt to be the enemy of the west, we trade with the west, cooperate with the west and we do mind our own businesses

[thorny steeple]

I would like to see, how do you support chinese interests over west

[feral river]

Even in terms of the party’s interest, we have multiple cooperation with Israel led by the party to benefit people in both nations

[thorny steeple]

You are totally speaking up

[thorny steeple]

only chinese interest, you support palestine for their own

[feral river]

Mind my own business is all enough

[thorny steeple]

Then mind your own business dont get in to palestinians and israel

[feral river]

Not at all I hold Israeli military industry stocks

I’m in the game, maybe a small part but I’m in it

[thorny steeple]

then why are you totally against interest of your own country?

[feral river]

Lmao you better know what’s the interest of my country

Before saying this crap

You are trying to explain my country’s interest in your version

[thorny steeple]

im more interested in commi party decisions, how are they going to dominate the whole world when they have crap like you

[feral river]

In reality we don’t give a shit

[feral river]

Lmao

Womp womp

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple lets talk about it here

Oky

[thorny steeple]

sure

So waqf according to muslim personal laws is a bill where muslim people submit their property such as land, to muslim organisations...which is further used for welfare words for muslim peoples

[slender coral]

It's interesting how dark Muslim majority countries are.

[thorny steeple]

sure, then what is the new problem you are facing

The problem is that the Indian government want to have control over that property...they will check and decide which property to be used and where to be used

[thorny steeple]

ok, as India clams all muslims get their full rights?

Ya

But the muslim organisations doesn't want to have indian government have control over the property

[thorny steeple]

ok

Gov will destruct the mosques?

build new temples on the mosque

You mean temples above mosque

[queen leaf]

Yes, so basically all the poor countries

[thorny steeple]

old mosque will converted in to temples

[hidden shore]

Dubai poor?

[queen leaf]

But Dubai isn't a country

[thorny steeple]

You have to differentiate between the government and the people. There is no single government that implements a complete Islamic system.

We don't know what the government will do... it's just that if the government is taking muslim properties in their control then they should also talke non-muslims property as well.. equality...why only muslim properties?

got the point

[queen leaf]

Do you think those countries would be rich today if the government had implemented the so called Islamic system?

[slender coral]

Afghanistan doesn't?

[thorny steeple]

nooooo

[thorny steeple]

Yes, for example, during the reign of Omar bin Abdul Aziz, there was not a single poor person.

[slender coral]

Pretty sure it does, but not fully though.

[hidden shore]

But the city is poor?

[slender coral]

This is just impossible to happen

[thorny steeple]

Read history then 🤷🏻‍♂️

[slender coral]

Where did you read that exactly? What's the book?

[thorny steeple]

ask gemini they can give you reply

[thorny steeple]

True

[queen leaf]

You should read first before you start arguing. I said that basically all poor countries are Muslim countries. I didn't mention a single city in my message. Dubai itself isn't a Muslim city, but the country is. Dubai is more of a tourist destination that welcomes people of all religions because they make a lot of money from tourism

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple do few muslims miss going to neighbour

during partition

[queen leaf]

I am not saying what about New York or Los Angeles or the state of California because those are not countries

But NY, LA and the state of California are hella rich

[slender coral]

That's a great question. There’s a famous story about the reign of Umar ibn Abdulaziz (the eighth Umayyad Caliph, ruling from 717 to 720 CE) that says poverty was virtually eliminated during his short rule.

Historical sources (especially early Muslim historians like Ibn Kathir and others) say that during his time, the zakat (charitable tax) collected was so abundant, and wealth was so well-distributed, that officials couldn't find anyone poor enough to accept it. People had enough to meet their needs, so the zakat collectors had to turn to freeing slaves, supporting travelers, or other uses of charity money.

However, to be precise:

It’s unlikely that literally every poor person disappeared instantly or totally.

But his policies (focusing on justice, fair wealth distribution, and strong governance) dramatically reduced poverty to a degree that was legendary, especially compared to what came before and after.

So while it's more accurate to say poverty was exceptionally rare, it's a bit of an exaggeration to say there was zero poverty — it's more a way of praising his justice and good governance.

Not "there was no single poor Muslim".

[thorny steeple]

He said: Scatter wheat on the mountaintops so that it will not be said that a bird went hungry in the lands of Muslims.

Google translate

[feral river]

Dubai is a city in the UAE, United Arab Emirates, not United Muslim Emirates

[slender coral]

Zakat is only given to poor Muslims btw.

[queen leaf]

I didn't say Dubai was a country

The city of Dubai itself isn't Muslim, but the country of UAE is

And I didn't mention the United Muslim Emirates? What's that?

[thorny steeple]

So?

[slender coral]

So when you said

Yes, for example, during the reign of Omar bin Abdul Aziz, there was not a single poor person.
And I responded
This is just impossible to happen

I was right, and you were wrong.

It's silly to believe that a state had no poor people

[thorny steeple]

when you talk about the poor people, means they were having enough

they werent having more than elon musk

You are ocmmitiing fallacies here

[slender coral]

Bruh

[thorny steeple]

Was there a person who didn't find food to eat?

[slender coral]

Idk really didn't live there, but I guess it happened. People have always struggled for resources, even in the most prosperous times and places.

[thorny steeple]

@slender coral

[slender coral]

Who said that?

[patent tulip]

happy Sunday, guyz!! Here is the verse of the day!:

Psalm 121:8
“The LORD will watch over your coming both now and forever more.”

[slender coral]

Ok?

[hidden shore]

Dubai is not county so Dubai is independent?

[thorny steeple]

Omar ibn Abdul Aziz

[patent tulip]

Yes, it’s happy day, Sunday, bro!

[thorny steeple]

I don't knor exactly...but maybe same I guess

[slender coral]

Where did you read about that?

[hidden shore]

Dubai is majority Muslim state bro

[hidden shore]

Don’t you forgot they have oil??!

[thorny steeple]

روى أبو عبيد بإسناده عن سهيل بن أبي صالح، عن رجل من الأنصار، قال: كتب عمر بن عبد العزيز إلى عبد الحميد بن عبد الرحمن وهو بالعراق: أن أخرج للناس أعطياتهم، فكتب إليه عبد الحميد: إني قد أخرجت للناس أعطياتهم وقد بقي في بيت المال مال، فكتب إليه: أن انظر كل من أدان في غير سفه ولا سرف فاقض عنه، قال: قد قضيت عنهم وبقي في بيت المال مال، فكتب إليه: أن زوج كل شاب يريد الزواج، فكتب إليه: إني قد زوجت كل من وجدت وقد بقي في بيت مال المسلمين مال، فكتب إليه بعد مخرج هذا: أن انظر من كانت عليه جزية فضعف عن أرضه، فأسلفه ما يقوى به على عمل أرضه، فإنا لا نريدهم لعام ولا لعامين.
ورواه ابن زنجويه في الأموال أيضا من طريق أبي عبيد.

[slender coral]

So basically a part of an oral tradition. It makes sense that the narrative sounds like something you'd read in ancient legends of ancient states.

[thorny steeple]

See I agree muslims are in majority in Dubai .but dubai doesn't have communalism mindset...they respect each religion equally and that enhances the culture of Dubai ...

[slender coral]

صايع عن ضايع ahh story

[thorny steeple]

Bruh, Everything is documented in the books.

[slender coral]

Oral traditions getting documented generations laters are still oral traditions.

[thorny steeple]

Funny thing: When I came to you with words that had no chain of transmission, you did not object, but when I came with the chain of transmission, you objected.

[slender coral]

I objected in both cases lol
That silly story, I rejected it from the beginning. There's no way a place would have no poor people. How would that happen exactly? They implemented universal basic income?

[thorny steeple]

Even if we assume that there are some poor people, this does not prevent the existence of true Islam from making the state rich.

[thorny steeple]

I literally sent you the text you are just ignoring it

[slender coral]

Idk about true Islam and all of that shit. All I'm objected to is the mythical story about a place with no poor folk, which afaik is something humans fantasized about in history often.

[slender coral]

I didn't ignore it. I criticized it above. Why are you saying I'm ignoring it?

As I told you before, it's a part of an oral tradition which makes it not far fetched to say it's exaggerated.

صايع عن ضايع ahh story as I said

[thorny steeple]

would they like to migrate to their Islamic country

of they again allo the trains

[hidden shore]

But most of Middle East countries are backward in global politics, technology, so many areas, without oil Middle East won’t growth rapidly like dubai city

[thorny steeple]

This is impossible. All books testify that the era of Omar bin Abdul Aziz was an era of prosperity. Also, the fact that the story is transmitted with a chain of transmission does not mean that the story is false. Rather, the chain of transmission is what corrects the story, and if the men of the chain of transmission are not to be criticized, then there is no reason to reject it.

[thorny steeple]

Also stop mocking.

[slender coral]

Brother, are you focusing with me here? I didn't say his era wasn't an era of prosperity. Read the conversation again.

And don't come at me with the silly hadith shit pls.

[hidden shore]

Middle East countries absolutely nothing compared to European countries and east asian

[thorny steeple]

I am going to pray, good luck with that mind 🙌🏻

[hidden shore]

The poorest regions like Africa,second is south Asia, third is middle east , the big three

[slender coral]

تقبل الله ياخويا

[queen leaf]

Is it independent? Hm, didn't know that

[hidden shore]

Okay okay okay okay

[slender coral]

The whole thing about the Islamic chains of narration is silly.
Documented history is not immune to biases and lies, oral traditions passed through generations are certainly not. Especially considering that the whole thing is only transmitted by followers of the faith who follow a certain sect, which is one of the major examples for bias in the case of Islamic traditions..

[rain geode]

It's not independent

[thorny steeple]

Many narrations have been said by scholars to be false, fabricated, or weak. We have special books on the science of criticism, authentication, and chains of transmission. As I said, the chains of transmission strengthen the authenticity of the story, and there are controls for accepting or rejecting a chain of transmission. You just haven't studied even 1% of the science of hadith and you're talking, I think you watched a video on YouTube and liked it

[tacit shore]

Hi

[manic juniper]

It's not even strongly supported according to Joshua Little

[slender coral]

One of the rules of that "science" is that the narrator must be a Muslim.
Yea, very trustworthy.
Idk why one would need to academically study this bs to point out what I pointed out. Anyway, there is much scholarly criticism for your "science" out there, you can google that.

[thorny steeple]

🤷‍♂️

[slender coral]

These folk really aren't aware how flawed their myths and legends are. They talk about them as if they are more accurate than written historical accounts. It's the natural result of the tightly controlled academic field in their countries where people may get imprisoned or even killed for criticizing Islam.

[finite shell]

Helllo

[quasi needle]

what

trump is quite literally an idiot being swindled on strings like a puppet

in a press conference he was asked about the 9-0 supreme court order that he’s defying and he said along the lines of “did they say that? my people told me they were supporting me” when they were ordering against him

[manic juniper]

Is this guy fr

[quasi needle]

his last two brain cells are having an arduous debate about whether to support or condemn fascism

[sharp creek]

I remember your previous Prime Minister said 'whatever happened, keep good relationship with the us'

hahahaha

[quasi needle]

we don’t have a president

[sharp creek]

i thought uk and us like brothers

[quasi needle]

this stands when the us president isn’t uprooting international relations

we want good trade and good relations but when the president and his cabinet have such little respect for other people it’s impossible to like them

the majority of the UK does not like the US government

[sharp creek]

do not like the us gov or do not like trump

[quasi needle]

both

they come as a package

trump isn’t the one actually making decisions

stephen miller is

[hidden shore]

putin does not give fuck

[quasi needle]

about what

the only country that’s capable and willing to push ukraine into ceding land to russia?

[stark loom]

Ultimately Putin doesn't have to do anything. He can just keep on grinding away at Ukraines Eastern flan and drop his drones on hapless civilians. He can ignore Trump. BUT Russias economy is suffering, from sanctions and the cost of the war. Hundreds of thousands of young Russians have died or been wounded. Sooner or later their families will say 'time to stop'. But we haven't reached that point yet.

Trumps peace deal is a capricious flight of fancy for Trump. Neither he nor Putin are really interested in settling that war. Its just something he could boast about if somehow peace came about.

It's also just a mineral grab.

The basis of Trumps peace deal is flawed because it does not address the problems and concerns of both sides.

[sharp creek]

i agree

[shy summit]

You had me at Trump being flawed

[sharp creek]

bro what makes you changed your name , what is qia+

[thorny steeple]

Two horrible guys who aren't Catholics seizing the opportunity to promote themselves

[quasi needle]

it was a private meeting, no press was invited

im so fed up from people that judge an image without giving 2 fucks about the context

its what the pope wouldve wanted irregardless

[thorny steeple]

Why did they have to do it in the Vatican City

[quasi needle]

because its a place where they both happened to be

would you rather they delay the next day's plans or fly to another country?

it was a 15 minute meeting

[thorny steeple]

They could've done it somewhere else

[quasi needle]

for?

is there any other reason except it being within the same gigantic palace as the funeral?

there is literally ZERO reason to make things more difficult just because it causes a minor annoyance

even when the pope advocated for an end to the war day in and day out

the meeting which even had trump suggesting hes changing his views on putin (for the better)

15 minutes, in private, positive outcome

[thorny steeple]

Doing the meeting at that place would obviously attract more attention to them, which they won't refuse. I think it's disrespectful

[hidden shore]

i gonna play resident evil series

[quasi needle]

so what if it would attract attention? them meeting ANYWHERE would attract attention

[prisma cipher]

15 minutes in private

[quasi needle]

😬

[hidden shore]

this game is so good 😭

[prisma cipher]

[prisma cipher]

By the way lame usa President way better than bunch of British Prime Minister's, they were just dumbo

[quasi needle]

better in what way

[prisma cipher]

Even in stupid way

[quasi needle]

in what way

you like him more thats quite literally it

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/boris-johnson-boris-no-nu-ugh-johnson-gif-17576296877637626397

[quasi needle]

he has his nose nestled down the throat of every dictator so no wonder

[prisma cipher]

[vital flower]

Hi!
(6'2 nonchalant btw)

[random olive]

https://youtube.com/shorts/MTWqbdmhocA?feature=shared

Thoughts on this, Zionism supporters?

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel Napoli is winning Serie A this year 🤣

This championship is a mess. Completely random. The funniest to follow among the five leagues

[dapper laurel]

Serie A is lost

I will watch the Bundesliga next year

[thorny steeple]

Since Juve lost the dominance, it's been so random I wish Roma would win it

[thorny steeple]

It's fun, too

Arsenal is winning the UCL this year 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[dapper laurel]

Roma wouldn't be bad, the important thing is that no teams from there on down win

[thorny steeple]

Besides Napoli, there's no risk at all

[dapper laurel]

At least it's not a farmleague like in France or Germany

[thorny steeple]

I disagree, regarding technical level it's decayed a lot

[dapper laurel]

We'll see in the European competitions

Atalanta won a European cup despite not even being in the running for the Scudetto last year

[thorny steeple]

It's UEL, the Champions usually aren't the best clubs in their countries, the best ones play UCL, as a rule

[dapper laurel]

Inter beat Bayern in the Champions League, the strongest German team

[thorny steeple]

Don't think it's a good parameter, Bayern too has decayed a lot, last year they bottled the league title

[dapper laurel]

But they are still the best in Germany at the moment

[thorny steeple]

England remains the best league on average, though the top clubs lack quality 🤔

[verbal abyss]

i wish Juve came back

[thorny steeple]

I wish they never do, it was boring to have Ajax and Juve winning everything in their respective countries

[verbal abyss]

im Juve fan so

i hope they will thats sadly to watch last year they just drop brainrot in tiktok and being kings of draws

[thorny steeple]

Football brainrot

[verbal abyss]

fucking 14 draws

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[verbal abyss]

yeah

everything but win matches

[thorny steeple]

Juve didn't win UCL last decade because there were prime Barcelona and Madrid, now Inter is unable to lift the trophy against much weaker sides

[verbal abyss]

oficial acc btw

[thorny steeple]

What's this, frucking clowns

[verbal abyss]

arsenal will win this season

[sharp creek]

its time to chat!!

i have no topic though

[feral river]

Russia already on its war economy mode bro, they keep trading with other nations and get supplies from them especially China, the second most powerful, prosperous state where you can trade for almost everything just by selling enormous resources

they are lacking of soldiers, no problem just get them from North Korea by trading technologies to Kim's dynasty

[sharp creek]

the second most powerful, prosperous state where you can trade for almost everything just by selling enormous resources for survive

[feral river]

even in their domestic market, they don't have storages of necessities, neither their quality of life is declining significantly for most civilians, even they got their own industries because western sanctions

[sharp creek]

yes great china

MCGA make china great again

[feral river]

sanction do work, but sanctions can never kill a state with huge population, several high techs, large military capabilities and enormous resources under authoritarian rule

they will never back down by sanctions like North Korea

neither we do

you cut them off, they will handle these stuff by themselves, literally creating such demands and motives for them to develop their own tech and industry

cut off will only help them to transform their economy from dependence to independence

that also applies to tariffs

it's not the ancient times our dynasty use trade tactics to annex all of other small states by starving the guy who's unwill to be annexed

every country have food reserves, and they ain't running out by sanctions

[feral river]

we are a great power, Russia is also considered a great power, and the US is the sole superpower in the world

[sharp creek]

emm i was kidding, but im curious about why would you choose to enlist in the military when you're already so wealthy? are you irrational

did you just tell a lie to us

when i saw the ' Russia ' word , i already known what he was going to say

[sharp creek]

did you lie to us!!

[main bison]

china's economy continue to collapse with new tarrifs

[sharp creek]

it doesnt matter, it was poor enough

i think chinese even dont know whether they are poor or not, they dont care at all

i was wrong

[thorny steeple]

Sorry, did you say Again?

[cedar bridge]

Are you still a fan of Trump?

[main bison]

Yeah

[cedar bridge]

I don't have idols

[thorny steeple]

Why

[thorny steeple]

U don't watch ufc ?

[sharp creek]

I like Trump, but his actions regarding the economy were terrible. No matter what happens, they don't realize that humans can only live up to 70 years at most. People are slaves, who are the victims of political achievements

[main bison]

What actions?

[sharp creek]

the trade war absolutely

supposing he ve done the right thing for americans . they will make america great again after several decades i think.

[quick spear]

Why are you like be Trump?

[sharp creek]

only rich people are happy to play the game

he is honest and brave

[hidden shore]

i hope oneday this currency will take over dollar

[quick spear]

Look, If you comparative about to EUA x others nationality, A Economy this "better" as others places

[sharp creek]

The only thing we can do is read the news and watch officials playing games

[quick spear]

Understand, but in Politic: Don't exist person Honest and Brave enough

[prisma cipher]

Or don't watch and chill

[sharp creek]

hahahha i think so

[prisma cipher]

One day I stop reading Twitter. And feel good

It was 3 years ago

[hidden shore]

read discord chat

[quick spear]

Oh

[hidden shore]

damn

[quick spear]

Yeah, yeah

[thick pulsar]

I was able to speak with Senator Rand Paul and ask him his opinions, I doubt he was fully honest. But it seems that the American Government is all in on trade wars right now lol

[hidden shore]

never read twitter chat and comments and reddit

they are all kinds brainrot

[sharp creek]

?????really

[prisma cipher]

Most Twitter topics is bulshiet people going crazy easily and nothing happened most of the time

[thick pulsar]

Nah, Brics is literally composed of nations that hate each other lol

[hidden shore]

[thick pulsar]

Yeah, he came to our campus since someone’s dad knew him and we talked with him

[prisma cipher]

Not just comment, even any themes on Twitter

[sharp creek]

ohhhhhhh my god

[manic juniper]

Banknotes should be of different sizes for people with hindered eyesight

[quick spear]

Is true

[prisma cipher]

my advice for the future, if something bad happens in your country, don't read twitter, there you will find 100 reasons why everything will be bad, and you will not find reasonable analysis, because normal analyses buried under a pile of hysteria.

[sharp creek]

to be honest, her perspective is always uniquely kind......

[arctic surge]

Logical people to people of faith: "Books aren't proof"

Then technically the historical manuscripts which have the stories we study in history textbooks..

aren't proofs too.

Talking about pre-camera era.

And that just means, we "believe" in history......

[sharp creek]

im curious, why don't judge me for liking to eat dogs !!

[sharp creek]

did he say anything interesting

[prisma cipher]

my grandmother had a cow, i wouldn't say that these animals are much dumber than some dogs, but it's completely normal to eat them

[thick pulsar]

Lots of promo into his book about the covid coverup or something, spent a lot of time being grilled by the club that invited him on questions regarding big government, trade wars, etc. When I finally was able to speak with him I only was able to talk for a bit, mainly asked him if the US is fully committed towards this current path and he said yes.

[sharp creek]

omg pls tell more about covid coverup

does it stems from a laboratory

[sharp creek]

i think so , its quite controversial

[shy summit]

Covid coverup?

Jfc

Not this again

[sharp creek]

omg where did she go

[thick pulsar]

Senator Paul presents the evidence that:
The Covid virus was likely the product of gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab in China—research funded in part by the U.S. government.
Taxpayer dollars for that research were deceptively funneled to Wuhan without the required regulatory review.
Fauci and his scientific yes-men knew from day one about Covid’s origin and tried to cover it up.
Fauci and his allies ruthlessly attacked everyone—including highly qualified scientists—who threatened to reveal the truth about the pandemic.

Why? Hundreds of millions of dollars of grants and unreported royalties were at stake, and heads would roll if the truth got out.

It almost worked. At Fauci’s insistence, the government imposed needlessly extreme lockdowns on Americans at the cost of immense personal and economic destruction.

Covid-19 was deadly, but the real killer was the coverup, led by America’s most durable medical bureaucrat—a man for whom the truth was too often expendable.

Senator Paul makes a powerful case that funding dangerous bioengineering in a totalitarian country is madness. If we don’t heed this warning, the next pandemic could be far worse.

That’s the book summary

[dapper laurel]

Do you eat dogs?

What do they taste like?

[hidden shore]

USD bills are same size tho, while The US dollar (USD) and euro (EUR) dominate global finance, there no single Asian currency holds comparable power, i am envy you guys

[sharp creek]

OOOOOOOOOOOOO MYYYY GOD

[sharp creek]

YES i eat everything, idont know how to decribe it .

[dapper laurel]

Do they taste like pigs or what?

[shy summit]

Yeah this was a sham investigation intended to codify Trump’s argument of the lab leak conspiracy. Not a single member outside of the party or the FDA signed off on this

If it were bipartisan I might be more inclined to agree

But Rand Paul is a known troll

Paul also has faced multiple malpractice suits

[sharp creek]

are you doubting a Senator

[sharp creek]

sorry idont know...i havent eaten it before.

[manic juniper]

What if I dislike dogs and think they deserve it?

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-am-the-senate-gif-10270130

[sharp creek]

what.......... I really think you look like an animal lover

[verbal abyss]

hell

[thorny steeple]

You can dislike dogs that's your own choice nobody can say anything about that but if you say the deserve this it's not a good thing

[manic juniper]

Only wild animals

[verbal abyss]

you actually sound like grass is green

[dapper laurel]

Haven't you tasted pigs or dogs?

[thick pulsar]

Probably, once he started promoting his book we sort of started clowning him Lmao

[thorny steeple]

My g
goodness

[thorny steeple]

What did u mean

[shy summit]

I’m doubting a known liar in this field

[sharp creek]

wait wait wait would you mind to tell us your nationality

[wintry river]

I have a question to the admins/ mods, where do I ask it

[thick pulsar]

American

[shy summit]

Same

[verbal abyss]

om everyone's soul

[sharp creek]

i get the wrong point again, sorry

and it makes sense

[shy summit]

Senator Paul is a he, and he has two cases of medical-malpractice against him.

[sick raft]

obviously

💀

[crude widget]

Yay, more Americans in here

[hidden shore]

i wanna take a DNA test and see if i have Mongolian DNA

i buy this one already

[hidden shore]

looks like a dragon

[main bison]

It's like 100 dollars

[hidden shore]

119USD

[hidden shore]

have you ever took a DNAtest?

i think i dont have Mongolan DNA,I am from southern china in twochow region, i guess i have Vietnamese, or Austronesian-like traces or southeast asian

[dapper laurel]

The holy yap must continue

[merry ore]

The more Americans the.. hmm, the .. merrier?

[crude widget]

Exactly

[thorny steeple]

Waiting for results?

[hidden shore]

thre results will come out after 3 week and 4 week

[thorny steeple]

In the meantime how much do you know about the company and the process

[hidden shore]

i dont know but this is a legit web tho

[thorny steeple]

It sure is

[thorny steeple]

Have you heard of expedition 33?

[hidden shore]

no

what is that

[thorny steeple]

Man's missing out

[hidden shore]

is that good

[thorny steeple]

@vapid cedar @ocean tapir

here you can chat

[thorny steeple]

Well I can't say just watch this trailer and let's see your opinion https://youtu.be/2VaLOc1FpSo?si=48fnfdfPbYzPyTdQ

[ocean tapir]

its 1 am in the fockin night

[ocean tapir]

chat about what

i dont know the guy

[vapid cedar]

graa Naber nabıonuz

[thorny steeple]

he wants to know about your kemalism

[ocean tapir]

At 1 am?

[thorny steeple]

yes

[ocean tapir]

Aight not a problem but I can't stay here long

[thorny steeple]

@vapid cedar you can ask about what you want

[hidden shore]

i watched the video but it is not my type of tea

[vapid cedar]

graa Öcalanı sevirsin mi

[ocean tapir]

"he wants to know about your kemalism"

asks if i like a terrorist leader

[thorny steeple]

Yeah I see turn based gaming isn't on everyone's mind, have you seen new oblivion remaster?

[vapid cedar]

graa Do ye lıke kemal soydere

[thorny steeple]

he hate secularism

so he wanted to know about your prespective

[ocean tapir]

He is a troll. I'm not answering his questions. Good night.

He asks me if I like the "leader" of pkk

That has nothing to do with secularism or kemalism or religion

[vapid cedar]

apoısts dont lıke kemalısts rıght

[thorny steeple]

so move on

[hidden shore]

yeah i have heard of it but i am not interested in

[thorny steeple]

Well then what do you have under your radar these days

[vapid cedar]

what

[ocean tapir]

Also, this is my view about secularism

You would understand it

[ocean tapir]

Yellow text says "People who use religion to keep their government alive are weak presidents."

[vapid cedar]

graa Erdoğan or kemal who better becas one ıs more relıgıous than other but one ıs more antı kurdısh than other

[uneven citrus]

because bread tastes better than key

[vapid cedar]

Abdülhamid and mehmet valhettin are not presıdents they are sultans

[vapid cedar]

thats whats gone on these days graa They have bıg hats

[vapid cedar]

graa Who ıs Mareşal

[hidden shore]

this one

[thorny steeple]

Ah Xbox games nice

[vapid cedar]

graa What about Alawı ıs he a better one or ali yerlikaya

[prisma cipher]

Mashallah

[vapid cedar]

İsmet İnönü hakkınad nedir

[verbal torrent]

Elhamdulillah

[vapid cedar]

brıtısh exclave of turkey mıght be better now I thınk about ıt graa

[ocean tapir]

Nuh uh

[prisma cipher]

Zuhra!

[verbal torrent]

Ze ze

[vapid cedar]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧

[verbal torrent]

Zehhhhra
Zehhh

Wth is graaaa

[vapid cedar]

graa means lıke bro or kanka

closest translatıon but true meanıng lost to hıstory

[prisma cipher]

Zehrww

[verbal torrent]

Best

[verbal torrent]

In which language

[prisma cipher]

Graa sound like you going to 🤮

[thorny steeple]

leave it

[vapid cedar]

extınct language

[verbal torrent]

Shadap

[vapid cedar]

graa No thats aaarrghh blrreeeurgh

[verbal torrent]

🥴

[prisma cipher]

Zegraaa mean you kanka

[verbal torrent]

Genius

[thorny steeple]

graa leave him

[verbal torrent]

Ya amk sanane

[thorny steeple]

he is very lonely and innocent

[prisma cipher]

Still better than Zuhra?

[thorny steeple]

im not turkic

[verbal torrent]

absofuckinlutely

[prisma cipher]

Турчик

[rancid wagon]

Messi is GOAT

[hot leaf]

What a day to hate Zionism and the apartheid regime of Israel

[thorny steeple]

What is Zionism?

[thorny steeple]

Forever

[uneven citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[thorny steeple]

[dire meteor]

halo

[arctic latch]

Hey you guys how you doing?

[proud wolf]

The last pfp was better

[dire meteor]

haha, u saw my pfp before?

[proud wolf]

Yeah

[dire meteor]

make peoples guess wrong 😬

[frozen cape]

Interesting name

[proud wolf]

Wym

[livid charm]

[feral river]

basically and probably none of your business

and even contribute a lot for the economy in the middle east and benefit a lot of people

and they fight terrorism

[brazen finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdmVDO0a8dc 19:00

[median temple]

we are all humans bro

[mild yacht]

Is it reasonable to ban me for mentioning “hitler is chill” I meant it by just looking at his pictures like he got the chill aura but he’s actually not

[shell lily]

They fight terrorism or they created it?
nowadays all types of resistance are considered terrorism
pathetic

you always like being controversial
idk what your aim is behind this
it's disgusting

[random olive]

Minecraft's opinions are definitely not other Chinese ppls opinions

He's in the minority

[thorny steeple]

where are you from?

How are you brother @thorny steeple